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In Depth: Jed Wyatt · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's another special episode of Almost Famous podcast. I know
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  Speaker 1: this interview is going to be compelling for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. Um, it's not very often a season ends
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  Speaker 1: in the ways ways that Hannah did. But on this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: yes we have a great time, and yes we break
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  Speaker 1: down a reality television show that some of us get
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  Speaker 1: super invested into. But none of this podcast makes sense
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  Speaker 1: unless we try to cover the show and we try
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  Speaker 1: to talk about all aspects of the show, not just
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  Speaker 1: a good not just the love stories, and not just
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  Speaker 1: the drama that exists during the season, but also how
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  Speaker 1: it affects people's lives. Jed Wyatt has been a key
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  Speaker 1: character on this season. Obviously, he ended the season engaged
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  Speaker 1: to Hannah, and as we saw recently, that has now ended.
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  Speaker 1: We want to talk to Jet. We want to hear
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  Speaker 1: his side of the story. For months, we've questioned, what
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  Speaker 1: in the world is happening and how is this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing going to end? And I'm done assuming Ashley is done.
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  Speaker 1: Assuming I just don't think that's the way you live life.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we live life assuming how things happen.
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  Speaker 1: We have to hear it from the source, and that's
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  Speaker 1: why we're doing this podcast. Listen if you want, Criticize
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  Speaker 1: us if you want, But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: we care about, or we try to at least every
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  Speaker 1: person that comes on this show. We don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see this show make anybody's life worse. So that's where
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  Speaker 1: it happened, Jet On. It's a compelling conversation. It's one
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  Speaker 1: um that I promise is worth the listen, and at
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  Speaker 1: the end of it, I hope you can at least
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  Speaker 1: walk away with a better understanding of how things played out.
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  Speaker 1: Agree with Jet or not like how it played out
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  Speaker 1: or not. I'm not asking that. That's up to you
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  Speaker 1: to decide, but at least listen. And we're so pumped
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  Speaker 1: that Jet has been willing to come into studio and
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  Speaker 1: meet with Ashley and I. We've heard Hannah side of
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  Speaker 1: the story, and honestly, we feel for Hannah, but we
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard Jed side, and it's important that we hear
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  Speaker 1: both sides. I mean, they ended this thing together, and
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  Speaker 1: how are we gonna leave a contestant just kind of
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  Speaker 1: out there on an island all along? We haven't done
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  Speaker 1: it yet, we don't want to do it this season,
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  Speaker 1: so it's now time to hear Jed story. This is
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  Speaker 1: in depth with Jed. Why this is Ben and Ashley
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  Speaker 1: I almost famous in depth Jed once again, man, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: uh for coming into studio. I know this is not
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  Speaker 1: the best of circumstances. Yeah, thank you, Thank you guys
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  Speaker 1: for having me. It's uh, I mean, let's just start this. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We kind of talked earlier, but I want to let
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  Speaker 1: you know. Uh. You know, the fans have heard a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of different stories, and there's been a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: press around this, and and then the weird part. For
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  Speaker 1: the first time in a long time, I can remember,
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  Speaker 1: this just came out months ago, and so you've kind
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  Speaker 1: of been living in this season of questioning and doubt
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  Speaker 1: and your story hasn't been able to get out there.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't know what your side of the story is,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why this is kind of exciting for me.
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  Speaker 1: But we've made a lot of assumptions, and also on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, we've made a lot of assumptions about what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start by how are you doing? What is it
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  Speaker 1: like living in kind of months and months of it
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  Speaker 1: feels like cloudiness. Yeah, you know, it's been it's been
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  Speaker 1: hard and uh, There's been a lot that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to say and kind of held off on really defending
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  Speaker 1: myself because you know, my relationship with Hannah was far
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  Speaker 1: more important than my portrayal to the media, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was it was hard to just kind of like
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  Speaker 1: bite my tongue and grin and Barrett till everything kind
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  Speaker 1: of played out the way that it did. Um, it sucked,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, like I said, I was the relationship
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  Speaker 1: was the most important thing to me, so I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do whatever I could to attempt to save that.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get into here along the podcast, UM,
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  Speaker 1: just our conversation your relationship with Hannah and kind of
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  Speaker 1: where it went wrong and if things could have been
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  Speaker 1: done differently. But I want to start at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I have reached out to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people on um social media and asked for any questions
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  Speaker 1: from our listeners and and as a result, we've compiled
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  Speaker 1: a list here that we're going to kind of run through.
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  Speaker 1: But for the most part, I want to treat this
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  Speaker 1: like a story, uh, your story over the last you know,
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  Speaker 1: nine months of your life leading up to really today
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  Speaker 1: where you sit a few days past UM. The final
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  Speaker 1: episode and and everything has kind of been out there
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  Speaker 1: in the open now when this whole thing started. For you,
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  Speaker 1: what was your intention going on the show? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was reached out to on Instagram about
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  Speaker 1: doing the show and from a casting producer. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: as far as I honestly, I don't know what she was.
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  Speaker 1: She she didn't make up in Nashville, and she said
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  Speaker 1: that she was associated with the show and asked me
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  Speaker 1: if I was interested. So um, I followed through with
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  Speaker 1: the steps on that. And you know, at the time,
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  Speaker 1: and I hadn't watched any of the show. It something
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  Speaker 1: that I wasn't really into because in my opinion, it
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  Speaker 1: felt like it wasn't real to me, So I I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really into it. And um, but it seemed like
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  Speaker 1: a good opportunity. I had seen like people on social
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  Speaker 1: media seemed very happy and it seemed to be the
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  Speaker 1: loving life that have been on the show. So UM,
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  Speaker 1: to me, it just seemed like a great opportunity. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know the potential of actually fall in love. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know if that was as real as it kind
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  Speaker 1: of comes across. So um to me, really, I just
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was stepping into or signing
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  Speaker 1: up for when you know I was going through the
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  Speaker 1: interview process. It's an interesting place to start because I
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  Speaker 1: think most people that watch the show assume that everybody
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  Speaker 1: goes on the show is going on with the purpose
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  Speaker 1: of at least hopefully finding love, knowing that it might
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  Speaker 1: not happen. It doesn't happen to the majority of the
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  Speaker 1: people that even go on the show, right the best
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  Speaker 1: case scenary or one person ends up at the end
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  Speaker 1: with the bachelor bachelor atte But for you, what you're
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  Speaker 1: saying is when this all came about, your reached out
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  Speaker 1: to or somebody contacted you, you look at it as
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of mix life up a bit,
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  Speaker 1: which I've been honest on this podcast about and said, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I did it. I thought it could shake
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  Speaker 1: life up a bit. I didn't know what it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna do to me. I didn't know that was gonna
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  Speaker 1: change my life forever. And so you get onto the show,
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  Speaker 1: and at what point does that there's a reality this
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  Speaker 1: is a real thing start to sink in. Right. Um, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it certainly wasn't night one. Um, it was just that
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  Speaker 1: was just such a I'm sure as you remember, it's
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  Speaker 1: just such a weird thing when you all the guys
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  Speaker 1: roll in and you know it's one girl, and everyone's
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  Speaker 1: getting pulled in different directions, and uh, it was just
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I had a crazy perspective going in. I
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  Speaker 1: people told me that I was going to be fought
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  Speaker 1: and that there's gonna be people staring up stuff with me,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I didn't know what I was getting into.
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  Speaker 1: But I think week two is when it clicked for me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when Hannah she walked in the room and
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  Speaker 1: she was upset because it was already hard for her
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  Speaker 1: and the reality of everything had already hit her that
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  Speaker 1: this was very real and it was going to be
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  Speaker 1: a very difficult journey. And when I saw her be
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  Speaker 1: so upset and emotional about this, that's when it hit
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  Speaker 1: me that, you know, this is a real person. And
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  Speaker 1: I had to step outside and have a moment to
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  Speaker 1: myself because I was like, damn, Like now now I
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  Speaker 1: see that this is this is real emotions and real
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  Speaker 1: people here. So from that moment forward, I just I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to put her happiness in front of my own
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  Speaker 1: and get to know her. And I would say that's
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  Speaker 1: when I really started to fill myself being like falling.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some of the criticism and actually I know
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  Speaker 1: you and I had talked about it was I forget
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  Speaker 1: the guy's name at this point, but there's some guy
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  Speaker 1: on night yeah, on night one, you know, he gets
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  Speaker 1: pulled out because he has a girlfriend at home. And
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  Speaker 1: the criticism, and I've seen a lot of it, is
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  Speaker 1: why didn't you leave at that moment? I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to assume that again. I'm gonna try to do this
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  Speaker 1: whole podcast without assuming anything I want. I'm gonna even
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  Speaker 1: ask you some probably softball questions that will just hopefully
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  Speaker 1: be easy for you to answer, But why in that
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  Speaker 1: moment did you not leave? I had closure with the
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  Speaker 1: Haley girl. I on my side, I had closure, I
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  Speaker 1: guess obviously on her side there wasn't enough of that there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we had had verbal phone conversations and talked in person
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  Speaker 1: about like the potential of what could happen on this show,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, people end up being a bachelor, there's paradise,
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  Speaker 1: there's people fall in love. Like we didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: was going to happen, and that had been discussed and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we said our goodbyes knowing that I was
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  Speaker 1: stepping into an unforeseen future. So to me, I was
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  Speaker 1: going on this journey as a single man. But you
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  Speaker 1: kind of said that you didn't think that love really
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  Speaker 1: came from the show, and it was more of like
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  Speaker 1: just a show, right, So why would you even assume
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  Speaker 1: that you were going to fall for anyone? I was
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  Speaker 1: not assuming. I I was open to the idea, but
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  Speaker 1: there was not an assumption. There was not an assumption
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  Speaker 1: going to fall in love with somebody. Then why did
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  Speaker 1: you even have a concluding conversation with Haley? Because we
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  Speaker 1: just wanted it to be clear that anything could happen.
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  Speaker 1: The part that I think has been confusing as some
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  Speaker 1: of them, it's we're getting to it earlier and I
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  Speaker 1: expected to, but I think it will lead us down
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  Speaker 1: a good road here. The text messages leading up to
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  Speaker 1: you leaving then didn't point to it being over, and
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of the thing. You know, there's multiple people
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  Speaker 1: this season that have had relationships leading up to the show,
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  Speaker 1: and it happens every year. It's not this is an anomaly.
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  Speaker 1: It happens every time that you know this show exists.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody gets asked and then they either in the relationship
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  Speaker 1: once they find out they're going to be on the show, um,
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  Speaker 1: or they do it a few months prior to the
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  Speaker 1: difference with you, because I think text messages came out
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  Speaker 1: as you were leaving that pointed that you guys might
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  Speaker 1: still be together have something right, And uh, I can
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  Speaker 1: see that. I will own those text messages all day,
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  Speaker 1: I said them. And you know, I really did feel
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  Speaker 1: for her, like there there's no denying it. She she
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  Speaker 1: has a great person. I'm not gonna ever shoot her down.
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  Speaker 1: She has a great heart, and that's just the facts.
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  Speaker 1: And I did feel for her. Um, though we were
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  Speaker 1: never in an exclusive relationship or had committed to that,
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  Speaker 1: we totally did have feelings and emotions for each other.
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  Speaker 1: And um, when I'm sorry, I'm so tired, backtrack me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit on that question. Then you want to
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  Speaker 1: repeat the question. Yeah, so if it had ended right
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  Speaker 1: through phone conversations, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So, Um, we
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  Speaker 1: had had verbal conversations and obviously those aren't being put
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  Speaker 1: out and you know, the phone conversations aren't being put
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  Speaker 1: out there, not out and recorded like people do have
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  Speaker 1: genuine conversations outside of text messages. Did I and those? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: But to me, the verbal closure was there, But didn't
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  Speaker 1: you text her that you loved her the day that
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  Speaker 1: you had this verbal conversation? Yeah, and you think that
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  Speaker 1: thing I love you means that you're in a committed relationship.
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  Speaker 1: I think that when has it ever been a thing
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  Speaker 1: that you have to be in a committed relationship to
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  Speaker 1: say that you love someone? M And again, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is where it gets confusing. So let's try to
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  Speaker 1: break this down. I think we need to live in
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  Speaker 1: this space for a bit and try to figure this out,
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  Speaker 1: because I think, quite honestly, yeah, this is where I
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  Speaker 1: um lost. I get. I actually can completely understand going
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  Speaker 1: onto the show ending a relationship I hear all the time,
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  Speaker 1: um finding that closure, and then also going onto the
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  Speaker 1: show without an idea of what it really is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think anybody that was on my season would admit
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  Speaker 1: when I was in the limo, I still didn't know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what we were getting ourselves into. And then as
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  Speaker 1: the weeks progressed, my feelings for Caitlyn increased, leading to
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  Speaker 1: the you know, to the end of our story, and
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  Speaker 1: then me being the bachelor, and the Bachelor led me
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  Speaker 1: to love and so I never would have expected that
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  Speaker 1: or could predicted it um until we're in it M.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is and I have to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with this is where I lose you. I don't get
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  Speaker 1: this part. I don't I believe you that you had
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  Speaker 1: phone conversations there was closure there, but if there was
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  Speaker 1: closure within that either one, it was completely unhealthy for
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  Speaker 1: you too. Then text I love you to Haley because
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  Speaker 1: you had just ended a relationship with her, or or
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  Speaker 1: to the relationship never ended, And that's where my mind goes.
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  Speaker 1: The phone conversation where we said goodbye was after the
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  Speaker 1: text message. Okay, I mean that that answer what led you?
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  Speaker 1: Then let's live what led you to then make that
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  Speaker 1: phone call after the text I had just landed in
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  Speaker 1: l A. And that's where we kind of just said
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  Speaker 1: our good eyes. What was her response? Was it hard? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was a hard conversation because
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  Speaker 1: we knew that I was stepping into an unforseen future.
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  Speaker 1: She had um she was potentially going on some show,
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  Speaker 1: and we both knew that this was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a the point where we don't know what's going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: but we're okay and want the best one another. Did
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  Speaker 1: you think that this could possibly have happened where like
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  Speaker 1: you were going to get far enough in the in
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  Speaker 1: the competition, let's call it that for lack of a
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  Speaker 1: better term right now, and that you were gonna end
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  Speaker 1: up worrying if Haley had interpreted that last conversation the
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  Speaker 1: way that you intended it, I never honestly would have
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  Speaker 1: dreamed you never you never thought that, like, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in this deep, She's probably gonna be really mad.
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  Speaker 1: I I, truthfully knowing her, would have thought that she
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  Speaker 1: would have been happy for me, to be honest, because
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  Speaker 1: she knew that the future was like we couldn't read
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  Speaker 1: the future, we didn't know what's going to happen. So
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  Speaker 1: I think I would have thought if she saw me happy,
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  Speaker 1: then yeah. But I guess also that like I was
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  Speaker 1: not really taking to consideration the way of the of
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  Speaker 1: the word love also with her, because you know, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that can be on so many different levels
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  Speaker 1: and taken so many ways, and I I will own
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  Speaker 1: up and say that, you know, obviously with Hannah was
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  Speaker 1: a different level. I wanted to spend the rest of
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  Speaker 1: my life with her. I should not have been so
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  Speaker 1: forward with it at the time, though I did feel
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  Speaker 1: strong emotions for Haley. Trust me. If there's one person
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  Speaker 1: that can't confused by the word love me buddy. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I got a girlfriend now that I love so much,
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  Speaker 1: and I you know, the show led me to to
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  Speaker 1: find love. But I get what you're saying there, and
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  Speaker 1: I think I want that to be clear. What you
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  Speaker 1: found with Hannah was a different kind of love than
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  Speaker 1: what you had with Hayley. And I can understand that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm living in that right now. But it
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  Speaker 1: still doesn't answer the question of what happened on the
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  Speaker 1: plane ride. I mean you you get onto a plane
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  Speaker 1: with a text message says I love you, and on
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  Speaker 1: a plane ride, you get off the plane and I
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  Speaker 1: know how this works. You get off a plane, you
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  Speaker 1: get in a car and you start heading towards the mansion,
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  Speaker 1: or you go you go to a hotel and you
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  Speaker 1: get prepped for the mansion. What happened in the Nashville
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  Speaker 1: to l A three hours on this plane ride that
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  Speaker 1: made you go, uh, I don't think I follow what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying there. You mean like once I landed in
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  Speaker 1: l A. Oh, I mean I told her that I
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  Speaker 1: would call when I landed, and I did, and once
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  Speaker 1: I was I was in the airport, and this was um,
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  Speaker 1: before I even went to baggage claim, I put my
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  Speaker 1: headphones in and went and kind of set and had
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  Speaker 1: a little conversation. So what happened on the plane, right
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  Speaker 1: that made you feel like you need to have that?
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  Speaker 1: That's what this is where I'm trying to get to.
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  Speaker 1: So this is where we're looking at right now. This
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  Speaker 1: is what I'm here. You get onto the plane with
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  Speaker 1: a text message that's really sweet, UM, that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: saying things like I love you and that you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like a relationship type text you get, you
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  Speaker 1: get on the plane, you get off the plane, and
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  Speaker 1: you sit down before baggage claim and call her to
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  Speaker 1: end it. What happened on the plane, I mean we
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  Speaker 1: both had already had those conversations in person that, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, again, I was going into an unforeseen future.
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  Speaker 1: That was it. Like, so the call was pretty much
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  Speaker 1: simply a goodbye, good luck. You know, everything's gonna work
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  Speaker 1: out either way, like I want the best for you.
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  Speaker 1: I want the best for you. Goodbye. And to go
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  Speaker 1: back to my other question, just there was never an
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  Speaker 1: oh moment for you while filming this season. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I was was weighing my closure more than I guess hers.
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  Speaker 1: I was not. I was thinking on my side that
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  Speaker 1: I felt okay and not really taken to consideration how
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  Speaker 1: much how this could have been hurting her. And that's
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  Speaker 1: my fault. Let's backtrack it in a little bit um
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  Speaker 1: like why why are you sitting with us today? I
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  Speaker 1: think we've heard now coming onto the show, and I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: know Ashley has a lot of questions kind of circling
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: around your relationship with Hannah and how this show played
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: out for you. But I really want to understand the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: mindset going onto the show, and then now that you
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: sit on the outside of it, what about that that
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: conversation with Haley makes you want to sit down with
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: us today and say, here's my story, and this is
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: why I believe it's okay that I did what I did,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't agree that it's okay that
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I did what I did. I can see how now
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that that was very hurtful to her, and that you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: though it did give me my closure, it didn't give
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: her hers, And that's my fault, and I'm you know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I'll admit it. I admit that I can see now
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: like especially with like her interviews and stuff how much
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: this actually did hurt her. So I guess I'm here
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to also admit that it's evident to me that I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: could have handled that different. If you could go back
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: in the Bachelorette process, when would you have ended up
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: telling Hannah that there was somebody who you ended a
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: relationship with right before the show. I wish I would
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: have talked about it in fantasy suites. Yeah, totally. Um,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that's in my opinion, that would have been the best
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: time to have done it. It didn't cross my mind,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to be honest, to be completely honest, it didn't cross
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: my mind. We were really just head over heels to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: be you know, not on camera for once and talked
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: about just about everything under the stars. But it didn't
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: cross my mind. I was just head over heels for her.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So did it feel like one of the questions we
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: gotta asked if did it feel like a risk to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: tell her at any point? I was. I was definitely
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: fearful to to talk about it with her. Um. You know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, I fell in love with her.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I love her so much that I was scared to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: lose that. I've never felt that emotion and it's like
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: getting like your dream house or dream car and knowing
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that if you did one thing, you lose it forever.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: And this was like that time's ten for me. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: just had never felt this strongly so fast, and the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: last thing I wanted to do was lose it. And
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I should have acted on love and respect and openness
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: rather than fear. And that's my mistake. He asked before um,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I let you kind of loose here on what's happened
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in the relationship with Hannah and Jed, and then kind
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of post I really just have one last question for you,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna fall along with this. Out of
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: all this stuff that's happened in the last you months,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: what has been the lies or the opinions, the criticism
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: that's hurt you the most. I don't know if and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: let me rephrase that, I don't know if what you're saying.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to come off wrong here. What
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you're saying is these things aren't lies necessarily, It's just
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: an unfortunate story or circumstance with some really poor decisions
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: being made. But the lot like there's it has there
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: been lies. I don't feel like there's been lies rather
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: than I think it's been kind of vengeful considering that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: she's plutted her band on everything that she's done, coming
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: out and talking about our relationship, and um, that's I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: mean to me if I was completely heartbroken. I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: for one, if I was in an actual relay sationship
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: with someone, I wouldn't want them to go on a show.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't like if they told me they're going to show,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: be like, all right, we're done, go do it. Like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: if that's if that's really what you're gonna do, then
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: go do that. And that's something that I had to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: discussed with Haley early on, Like when I found out
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I was going on the show, I told her that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I was going to fall through with us if she
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: did not want to spend time together, hang out or
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: do anything. We don't have to do that, and that's
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: fine with me. I would not do that if I
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: was in your position, and I I just I wouldn't.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So I always found a hard time figuring out even
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: like though I can see now that my behavior and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: words were misleading, especially in the text messages, I just
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: didn't find a hard time seeing how if you do
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: care about someone so much, even if they were assuring
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: how it's okay to like let them go on a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: dating show at all, Like if that was like a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: thing I I wouldn't have gone if I was in
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: a relationship, But if my person was trying to convince
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: me that it's okay, I would just be done. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it really just baffles me that she just had to
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: come out and tell her story. Once I was at
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: two fifty thou followers on Instagram or something, That's that's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: when it hit to me if you were so heartbroken, Like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm not taking that away from her. She's hurt,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and I understand that, and I own up to my mistakes,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But if you really were so broken, why not earlier? Well,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that. So do you
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: think it was your Instagram follower account or possibly how
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: far you got in the competition that got her to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: come out with her story, because I have a feeling
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: if you were like top ten, she probably wouldn't have
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: said anything. I really don't know. Um, I I would
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: love to just completely own up to my mistake and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: sit and be like, it's because she's hurt. But the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: fact that she plugged her music and on everything that
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: she did afterwards. That made me kind of reconsider a little. Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that hurt that that feels it feels a little self promoting,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and I yeah, I get that. I mean I think,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: inc wow, this is I think the problem Jed And
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: this is maybe the one of the other things I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: want to ask. I don't know how to say this, well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: is I think there is this weird level at which
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: there is a self promotion behind a breakup. But at
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the same time, Um, you know this was an outlet
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: for you to promote your music and you admitted that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was something that was talked about on
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the show and then definitely a storyline on the show.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to I mean, it was this. It
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: feels like the apple hasn't fallen fall from the tree
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: because you went on the show to promote music. She
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: knew that going in that was something that you had
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: talked about with her, and then when that kind of
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, maybe backfires on her or
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: there's a route awakening where she realizes, oh, he actually
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: likes this girl, he's in love with this girl, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: he isn't coming back to me. Is it that crazy
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: or that outlandish of her than to say, well, I'm
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: going to use this to my advantage too. I mean, no,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not I mean, I don't think it's right,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that it's you know, outlandish by
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: any means. No, it's the part, Yeah, it's it's just
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the part that I'm again, I think this is just
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a really unfortunate story of lessons learned. And I hope
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that's what the listeners take away, is that you haven't
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: yet said this isn't your fault. And I respect that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Trust me, I really respect that out of you that
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you have you've yet to say this isn't my fault.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: But I also think that, quite honestly, it was just
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: some really poor decisions being made during a time that
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you're all eyes were on you. Yeah, no, I agree,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Like I'm I've never felt the way I felt for Hannah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and it happened to be in front of America. You know.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It's It's something that I'm not used to at all.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: So there was just so many different things going and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to excuse my mistake at all, but
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it's not something I was familiar to by any means.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: The some of our listeners. I'm I'm looking here, they
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: wrote in an email. They said, because a lot of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the questions we asked where how could have Jed handled
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: this differently? And uh, and we discussed it, I think
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: two weeks ago on the podcast. One of the ideas,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and I want to know if you ever thought about this, UM,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: was to bring Haley onto the show and during this
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: experience and ask her to come on this so so
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that you could have closure with her. I think what
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: we're hearing, and I want to make sure that I'm
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: understanding this correctly. You already thought you had closure with her,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So what did it ever cross your mind to need
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to explain to Haley even post filming of the show
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that hey, I'm engaged. You know, UM, I had actually
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a friend who introduced Haley and I had you know
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: him and I talked when I got home and he
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: told me that, you know, she was upset and throwing
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: beer bottles at a bar or something, and so at
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that moment I knew that she you know, I knew
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: she'd be following the spoilers. I knew, I mean, all
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: my friends knew everything. When I got back, I was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: kind of pissed because I wanted to like kind of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: talk about my journey my close friends, you know, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: then they literally, you know how the spoilers go, they
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: everything just about everything. So um, when I heard she
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: was throwing this tantrum. Um. I think a few days
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: or a week later, I ran into her at a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: bar and I saw her initially and I just kind
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of wanted to avoid it. I just got back. I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: was still coming down to earth from everything that had
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: just happened. It was such a long during me amazing
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: but long. And it was my first time going to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a thing in Nashville, a bunch of
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: musicians play. And she approached me next to my friends
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and asked me, you know, first said you know you
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: weren't going to call, you were't gonna do anything, And
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: my responses I just like, I don't know like what
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to say to you at this time. Like, and I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: know for a fact, here in this bar where people
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: were filming me right now, there's people I could see
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: people behind, even her and my friends, just because it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: was it was fresh, and people knew who you were
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: because your picture had already been released, right, So I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: was like, this is definitely not the place for conversation
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and I still needed to gather my thoughts, and so
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I heard again from one of my friends that she
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: had been upset again or something, and so I talked
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to Hannah about it and I was like, I I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: think that I should say something to her, and I
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: don't know if I need to do this in person
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: or text or a phone call. And Hannah and I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: came to terms that I should just call her. So
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I did try to call her one time, and she
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: ignored it and never called me back, and then the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: articles came out. So so at this point Hannah was
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: aware and supportive of of you trying to process this relationship.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: What at this point did Hannah know about your relationship
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: with Haley. She knew, she knew my feelings and emotions
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: towards it. Like I said, she knew how I felt
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and the closure that I had towards her, and I
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: was not being mindful to how Haley might have been feeling.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So that's where I lacked the details. Um that I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that I love yous, the trying to think the note
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and I I had told Haley this was me talking
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: before I knew anything about the show, and I could
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: pick my past apart for for hours and I know
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that it's not right, but I talked to him, just
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: talking like I think going top five, that would be
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: like the thing to do, and like, I don't know
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: what I mean there. I didn't know who the bachelotte's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be. I didn't know that I would even fall
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: in love, right, I hadn't no clue what was going
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to happen. So um, when Hannah read all that, it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: was very hurtful and I think made her question the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: validity of my words towards her, which really sucks because
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like I know for a fact that I felt everything
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: that I said to her was as real as it gets.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: And take your time, We're good. No Rusher could take
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, take a break. We're gonna come back in.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And uh, we we took a little break. This is
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: not an easy conversation to have. And I think jed
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: when we paused here the emotion was coming from your
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: feelings towards Hannah. And one thing we haven't got to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: see a lot of because of how this ended and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: because of the kind of the months in between filming
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the show and when the show aired, is how serious
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: your relationship is. But was So to you, Jed, what
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: were your feelings to Hannah? Yeah, I mean, I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the hardest part of all this is that you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: her questioning my validity due to all this um in
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: my words, because I have not felt as this strong
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: way for someone ever. And you know, it was just
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: it was just easy, and it happened so fast, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: those those couple of months for like years. But it's
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: also like you blink your eye and next thing you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you're completely head over heels and engaged and start talking
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: about like houses and all that, just the crazy stuff
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that you just you know you want that eventually, but
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: you just wouldn't have assumed it would have been here
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and now, and um, yeah, it's it's it's hard to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to know that's over. But also it's just harder to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: know that she questions the validity and how I felt.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So let's go to the breakup part. So we know
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: that the day after you guys got engaged, you have
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the conversation about Haley, and then we know that you
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: ran into her in the bar and you got a
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: little bit concerned about her feelings and you called her
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and she didn't pick up. But then the People magazine
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: came out. So is the People magazine really when Hannah
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: started to feel feelings of distrust? Yeah? Absolutely. I feel
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: like that's when it really just hit her because she
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: saw the things that I had left out when I
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't considering how Haley was truly feeling. The letter. So
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in the letter it sounded like you intended to get
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: back with Haley if the Bachelor I didn't work out?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Did you in him that? I didn't know. I didn't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: know what really I was saying or what was going
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to happen, So I can't really say that I wanted
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that or that was going to happen. So then, Um,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: when was the scene that we saw between you and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Hannah on that couch in the house in l A filmed?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: When was it filmed? Like? Was it the week after
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the People magazine article came out? How much turmoil was
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: between you guys? It was within the week and then
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: you you didn't break up? Then that's and she broke
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: off the engagement, it seemed mm hmm. What happened in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: between that in the real breakup which happened over the phone. Um,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: just a lot of emotion, sadness, and just really evaluating
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: myself and how I've made people feel. Um, Hannah obviously
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: my number one priority, but I've had to gain perspective
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: from everyone else's feelings too, And that being Haley, that
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: being you know, the fans, and like, it's just I
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: never intended or wanted to hurt anyone, but you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: just kind of taking it in and swallowing the fact
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that I have hurt people. That was just. It was tough.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: When I feel like breakups are inevitable, you get that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: feeling where you're like trapped. You're like, oh, man, like
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I messed up, or like there's something messed up in
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: this relationship and I don't think I'm gonna be able
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to get out of it. So were you feeling that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: that trapped, scared feeling for a while like it was
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: going to go south no matter what you did. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure what was going to happen. You know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: in my head, I kept telling myself that, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that love was so powerful. It was powerful enough to
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: make it through the bachelorette journey. You know, I feel
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: like we can work through this, especially if we intend
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: on spending the rest of our lives together, because there's
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be trials and tribulations that life does throw at
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you that you know, believe it or not, can outweigh this,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and UM, I just I was really hopeful that it
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: was something that we could talk through. But you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I understand why it hurts so bad now, and you
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: know that's that one of the things. Uh, you just
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: touched on it. Uh. This week Reality Steve came out
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: on UM publicly and showed some comments that you were
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: liking on your social media um to pointing to your
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: support of people saying, oh, you know, kind of against Hannah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I'd say they're anti Hannah comments that you were liking.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: What was your thought process there? So, contrary to popular belief,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I had gone to tap the comment um the the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: longer one. I can't remember exactly what I said, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I was trying to see the chain of who he
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: was responding to or whether it was just him and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I liked it, and that was my mistake. But I'm
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: gonna own up and say that I did like it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't fully agree with what was
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: said there, but I I did like it, And you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I would be lying if I said that I didn't
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: feel like obviously a little weird about some of the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: things that were said during the season, especially watching back
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: about like the windmill and stuff like that. Like obviously,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: it's just it's really odd and hard to hear someone
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that you love and care about be so open about
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: hooking up with someone else. And you know, she I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: totally understand that that's it's her journey and her role,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and you know, I probably would have done the same thing,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you know, if I was if the roles were flipped
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: in I was, you know, with the top three or
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: four guys or whatever it was. Um, I would want
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to explore that too. So she's not wrong for it,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: But it's just it's hard watching back when that is
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: your person and I would that I had mentally, I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: had haste towards it. But their comment was, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it's not right. Whether I liked it, if it was
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: an accident or even on purpose, it's still not cool
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: with me. So yeah, I mean, I think that's where
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you you like the comment, You're you're admitting that you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: like the comment, and so the bottom of it is, which, Man,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: my reaction towards things in life are typically not great.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Um My, one of my one of my personal biggest
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: weaknesses is when things happened that I'm maybe angry about
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: or frustrating, my initial reaction is always one that's probably
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: not right. And so your reaction here was a like
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a comment that was kind of anti Hannah in a
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: moment of anger or Hey, so so you have had
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: moments here where this has been frustrating for you. Yeah,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I mean absolutely absolutely not to like beat the dead
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: horse here. But there were also some videos of your
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: friends like wearing Team jed shirts and they were kind
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of speaking negatively about Handle, like I don't like that girl.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Um? I think it's
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: pretty clear that people are going to have their opinions
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and be that friends or fans. You know, it's something
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: that you can't really control. I did text them afterwards
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and let them know that you know that this isn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the time or place for that, And but I mean,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: in the end, they are my friends, and I'm sure
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Hannah's friends would say some things about me right now too.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: The j had to kind of some up all this. Then,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: How would you have liked handed to handle this? Really
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: this situation, I really I would have liked to have
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: had a conversation it just being honest, like sitting down
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: without cameras and anyone else being around, you kind of
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: just talk about it. Whether we worked through it or not,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: but it to just be us. Did you ever get
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to talk about it in person together? Do you hope
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to still? I mean, at this point, she's pretty much
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: openly stated that she has her closure and she's ready
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to move on. And that's I understand. Um, So I
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: feel that you know at this point that I'm hurt.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I do have love for her that I have to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: do the same. Yeah. I mean you were engaged and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and I can't imagine not having any closure one on one.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: It would be tough. I mean millions of people watched
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you have a breakup. Yeah, and if you're sitting here,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: there's just a lot that went wrong. I think that's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: what I'm taking from this quite honestly. There's just been
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a lot that's gone wrong, and you've been wrong, like
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you were in the wrong. And I also think that
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: through it all, it's yeah, through it all, it's definitely
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: gonna affect you, Jed. And that's why I want to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: lead this to now, is if there's closure in your
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: relationship and uh and you and Hannah are both gonna
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: move on. Want to spend I'm sorry you don't feel closer.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I I feel like I have to feel closure since
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: she does, then I want to Luke kept begging for closer.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: She's like, I have mine. Yeah, I want to spend
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a second and talk about how it's affecting now your
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: life personally. Uh, we'll hopefully get a chance to talk
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to Hannah and and break all of this down with her,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: but for now you're in studio with us, and I
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: want to hear since all this is so all this
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: has came to fruition and uh, mistakes have been made,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: how is it affecting your family? It's been it's been
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: really hard on them. You know, they don't sign up
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: for this, no one's family does. And for them to
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: get kind of dragged into the drama and turmoil, it's been.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: It's been tough, you know. But the Edits and you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: they were completely skeptical to this whole thing, and they
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: it was definitely taken as a Haley thing, which you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: when I watch it, I see that. But when I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: know my family that I've known my entire life, I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: know for a fact that they were just really skeptical
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: of all this. When I hugged all them, when I
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: was like off camera, They're like, are you okay? Are
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: you okay? Is this real? Is this real? There's they
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you know, when all the cameras and all the lights
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and the producers running around like it's it's something that
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: they just were not accustomed to. And they I think
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: they were honestly kind of in disbelief that I was
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: loving someone in this setting. I mean, as I was,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: but also extremely happy that it was happening. So um,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: but just seeing how much hate that you know, some
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: fans and um, some alumni and and more have and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: are just so open to throw these things out at people.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's sad. You know, we're all we're all human,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and we all have lives and make mistakes, and UM,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I think people kind of get carried away and feeling
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: like it's just you know, just a message or you know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: just an email, just a letter or whatever, and UM,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I don't realize how much it actually can affect someone's head.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I've seen my mom. It's it's been
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: tough on her, you know, and I I hate it
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: because I feel like it's my fault, just as I
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: have like on a lot of this, Like you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: it's it comes back to me, which I'll own up,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: but it's it's hard for me to see the people
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I care about the most hurting because of me. Did
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: they know Haley? Yeah, they did, so the hometown awkwardness
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: or coldness or whatever. You don't think it had any
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: anything to do with like, oh, but he kind of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: has a girlfriend here. They I did not have a girlfriend.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: They knew for a fact where I stood with that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: They knew that we had never committed being exclusive. They
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: never thought that. My dad told me, He's like, I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: never thought you guys were together. My best friend called
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: me when the article came out and asked me who
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: it was. If that tells you anything. My best friend,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: my best man in my wedding, called me because he
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: did not know, And you know, I think that kind
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: of says a lot personally, but um, yeah, to answer
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: your question about the back to the family, So it's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: been tough. I think I'm missing something. Best man in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: your have you been for the best man in his
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: future wedding? Future wedding? I was like, man, I'm sorry
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: that Yeah, yeah, you know the family, So how are
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: where is your family at now this and um, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I guess because we have a few more things to
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: move into. But where do you hope this goes first?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Where do you hope this leads? Now? Yeah? Well, firstly,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I know that my family is very thankful that I've
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: been given the opportunity to kind of open up and
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: tell my sides. So again, thank you all for for
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: having me. And you know it means a lot to me,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: But I know it means a lot to my mom.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: She was like, I told her about it this morning
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and she's gonna like all crying and stuff. So she's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: she's thankful as am I. But um, you know, moving forward,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I really I need to just take some time to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: kind of work on my spiritual and mental health and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. Um, before I make
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: any jumps towards anything else, that's what I want to
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: focus on. I I want to be better well around
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and take this lesson and become the best version of
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: myself that I can be. I see Hannah's I don't
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: know all this of of course, Um, you should have.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: There should have been moments where you know, there was
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: more details that came out sooner. But I do just
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: feel a lot of empathy because you are dealing with
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the most frustrating situation I could possibly imagine falling in
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: love and then it just being completely wrecked at the
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: hands of someone else. It's a lot, it's a lot.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: We could take a break now. Jed need to step
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: out of the room. I think it's fair. Uh, this
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: isn't exactly the most like uplifting conversation to have. UM,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and this feels weird, But because he stepped out of
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the room, I think he feels it feels really weird.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: But we have to talk about this at some point.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's big news and in dispatch the world, and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: it would feel even weirder if we did it in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: front of Jed. So I think this is a good
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: moment to kind of discuss this and try to talk
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: about it while he's away. So Ashley, if he walks
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: back in, let's just stop. But until he does, let's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: chat about Tyler and Hannah Um having their date UM.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: According to a couple of sources, Tyler's with the night
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: at Hannah's house. It's unconfirmed. I have zero photo, so
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it's a photo. UM. It's confirmed by our sources that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it happened at her house. The photo seems like it
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: did happen at her house. The paparazzi caught them this morning,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Um saying goodbye goodbye. There was a kiss as seen
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: by the paparazzi, but said that because of camera angles
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: or something, they couldn't get that kiss on camera. They
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: hugg goodbye. But the drink stay happened last night, Thursday night,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: and it looks like it turned into a sleepover. Did
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: you expect this? Um? Yeah? Actually yes, I did you do?
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I like, actually definitely expected this completely honestly, I didn't.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I did not expect them to get back together. I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: thought that this, Yeah, I didn't think that this would happen.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I thought that it was Um. I thought they really
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: should move on. I thought they'd have respect for each other.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: But I did not think they would actually go on
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: this date. And I'm proven wrong. Oh that's crazy. I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: took the day extremely seriously when she asked the other night,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: where do you think this goes? I mean, if if,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: as a Bachelor fan now actually put that hat on,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: do you want to see this work? I want to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: see it work for Hannah's sake, for sure. I think
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Bachelor nation is totally going to be torn because now
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: they have to choose between if we want Hannah and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Tyler together, which is something we've rooted for the entire season,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: or if we want to see Tyler as a bachelor.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: It's difficult, it's it sucks. I mean it doesn't suck.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I think we want her, Hannah to be happy and
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: if Tyler is going to be somebody who's going to
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: make her happy for a long time, then we have
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: to root for that. Okay, so let me ask you
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: this to close out this conversation. This is big news.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Now it's Tyler still with this happening then kissing, staying
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: together going on this day. Is Tyler at all in
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: consideration for the next bachelor? Is it even possible? Now?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: It's hard, It's really hard. I'd say that if it's
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the only way it's possible is if they like do
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: one of those Chris Harrison meeting things where they sit
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: down with Hannah and Tyler and they're like, yeah, we
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: gave it a couple of weeks. Um, we definitely like
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: each other, but we don't think we're each other's forever person.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: So because of that, I think Tyler should be the Bachelor.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: He has my you know, he has my vote as Bachelor.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna need to see a sit down. Yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: a lot is gonna have to happen in a short
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: amount of time. They're gonna have to figure out this relationship,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: pursue this relationship, in this relationship, come to terms with
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: this relationship, and then sit down with Chris Harrison and
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: talk about it all to make it even a possibility.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I think what we should go start leaning towards is
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that Tyler will probably no longer, in my opinion, be
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor or even be in the talks to be
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. But what we can root for is that
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Hannah and Tyler leave this thing happy. It feels weird
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: considering the conversation that we're having around this right now
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: with Jed, but hey, we've seen it before in Bachelor Nation.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: We've seen the SWITCHERU happen, and we've seen the switcherou
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: become successful in two different circumstances. Jason Mesnick and Ari
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: come to mind. I think we should talk about that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: with Jed and see how he feels about switcher rus
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and what exactly happens. Is it right or wrong? Or
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: is that just part of this experiment. Okay, let's do that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Vachel Nation, what do you think emails had been a
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Nashley I heeart Media dot Com. Let's bring him back
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: in now, all right, and we're back with Jed. Jed,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: what does four for for mean? Because it seemed as
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: if you use that expression with both Haley and Hannah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a special number to me. I have
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: alarm set on my phone to pray every day at
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: ye and it's something that I take very seriously. And
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: um it's presented itself along the journey, like for Hannah
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and I, for example, in Greece. I can remember we
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: were off camera. I was picking her up to pick
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: a limon off a tree and to the right of
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: her there was like a first sale sign and her
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: body was blocking every number on the number like to
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: call them, but four four four. So like it's just
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like kind of been like a spiritual thing for me,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: and I like to share it with people so that
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: they don't have something that kind of reminds them to
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: pray or to give them some light when maybe it's dark.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: It's something I like to share. So it didn't I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: love you and the doc I talked about this earlier today.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm huge in a meditation and it's something that
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I also I like to share with people. I'm very
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: open about it. But the doc was a metaphor to
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: a meditation place. Okay, And you could ask Hayley that
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I would take a light detector test on that. I
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: swear on my mother's life. That's what it was. Thank you. Now,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: do you think that there's any chance that down the road,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: what's meant to be will be and you and Hannah
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: could have a second chance at it, maybe when the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: spotlight is not on you so much, maybe in like
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: a year or two, maybe after you do a round
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise and you save the reputation you show,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you show a different You get to show
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a different side of you, which I don't know that
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: you need to show a different side of you. I
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: don't think your reputation would have been all tarnished during
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: this season if it weren't for the People magazine coming out.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I think everybody loved you before that article. You know,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: just like this kind of like landed in my lap
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to be able to go on this show and to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: even come on this podcasts. I believe that God, well,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: his will will be done, and if it's meant to be,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: then it will be. Um, it would be obviously a
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: great thing. But I'm just like, I'm going to really
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: put my focus on whatever God's will is. The Jed,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the the craziest thing about this feeling or a season
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: was how much spirituality played into it. And and so
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: we get out the show now and we hear your
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: story and we hear the mistakes you've made. And I
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: want to be very clear, Jed, I would hate for
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: this to leave. And you've made some some terrible not terrible,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you made some really unwise decisions through this experience and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: you've made and please argue with me if you don't
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: think so. But one of our listener emails here mentions
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the comparison between what you did in and what has
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: happened in past seasons, UM, comparing you to like Jason Mesnick,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: who is one of my good friends and I love
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: who made the switch, uh to Ari who is now
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: has a child with his wife Lauren, who UM I
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: guess famously UM broke up with Becca on national television.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: And this listener is mentioning the comparison that this happens
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: more than what we like to admit to. What about
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: your situation? And I say this leading in with the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I think he made some really want unwise decisions. What
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: about your situation makes it so much worse? If so?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, obviously, what makes it worse to
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: me is that it's it's me. Um, I'm the one
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: living at and I care about the people who are
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: also living at. And UM, who am I or anyone
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: to judge anyone's prior mistakes or choices? Um, I'm only
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I'm only accountable for my own and UM, you know
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like minds any better, any worse than
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: what has happened before. It's I mean, it's it's mine.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I don't really know how to answer that. I mean,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I think you did. I think what you're saying. Is
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: is it any worse? And the answers, I don't know
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: if it is, and I don't I don't. I would
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: love for our listeners to weigh in on this. UM,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: please email us or use the hashtag almost famous podcast.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Let us know is Jed's situation or his how this
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: ended for Jed worse better? Or is it just not
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: even comparable? To what we've seen in the past during
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: this the show. It also just in in you know life. Uh,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I have a buddy who was dating somebody met Um
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it's one of my best friends actually that I've just
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: thought about this now. Um, I met a girl at
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: the bar, fell in love with her, broke up with
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend, and now is married to that girl at
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: the bar. So I guess I'm at loscity. Is that wrong? Right?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Actually, what do you think? Well, in
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: my situation is a little bit different because I was
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: in love with Jared's for so long beforehand. But yeah,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I definitely wasn't an angel. It wasn't perfect
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: in that situation at all. I think I got a
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: little grace because it was Jared. Um. I agree. I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: also and that you had loved him for so long. Yeah, totally.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't I kissed him once in my
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: wall in the other relationship. Um, but I'm I definitely
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: was too emotionally involved with another man while dating somebody else,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: And that's okay, that's my thing. I don't know if
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: it's okay. I don't I don't know if I don't
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: think it's okay. I don't think think it's a personal decision,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: because for me it's okay because you got to where
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: you are now and we all have to trust the
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: path we're on and the and that journey. In my opinion,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: it's just my opinion, I think it sucks the some
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: people um have to be the contrast for whatever is
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: better for another person sometimes and you know, it doesn't
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: mean they deserve that or that it's right, but that
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: is That's kind of how life goes sometimes. You know,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: it's just you know, you might think you love someone,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: but then when true love kind of shows itself, then
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: you're kind of hit in the face with like damn,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Like what was I What was I feeling? Thinking? What
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: was that moment for you? During the season, and you're like, oh, wow,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: this is real love. I I could feel it building
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and myself in Boston it was just like this unexplainable
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: feeling and people were asking me like, what is it?
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? And you know, there
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was just not another word for it, and I knew
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: that it was. It was happening fast and it was
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: very real. And when Hannah and I stepped into the
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: photo booth in Boston and for only probably like three minutes.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: You know, we shut the curtain, and I guess before
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: it was filmed, filming and stuff in there, there was
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: like a go pro but I just like looked at
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: her and kind of in that moment for me, I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: was like, this is this feels like it the d
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: take a second here, I'm gonna I'm gonna fill them
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: because I think we're moving past something. That's a pretty
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I guess compelling comment from Amy and compared to Ashley
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and myself, and you know, I don't know, And I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: really want our listeners to voice their opinions on this
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: because the situation is this, let's take you out of it. Jet.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Let's just for the sake of of not talking about
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: one single person. This is life, right, So say you're
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: in a relationship with somebody you're dating and it's committed, right,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: it's monogamous. You've had that conversation, Um, things are going fine,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: maybe not great, maybe we don't even know how good
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: they're going. And then all of a sudden, loves slaps
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: you in the face and you meet somebody that completely
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: changes your world. Listeners, please, we need your advice here.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: What do you do? And I mean from from what
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you're saying, Jet is you ended this relationship with Haley
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Um before you went on, and so it was kind
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: of free range for you rain for you to go
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: after Hannah, not knowing where that would take you. I
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: guess my comment to all of this is I feel
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: super lucky that I've never had to be put in
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: that situation. You know, like I absolutely love Jessica, and
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: if I if Jessica wa into a room and I
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: didn't know her, I bet my world would stop, Like
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I bet things, like my whole paradigm would shift, like
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: she changed me. But at the same time, it's hard
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: for me to even relate with this because there is
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: no possible way I would let my heart go towards
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: anybody else right now at all. Like it's inconceivable for
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: me to even think about anybody else entering into my
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: world while I'm in a relationship with Jessica, because she's
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the right one, that's my That's my question for you, Amy,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: is then and Listeners, when do we know it's the
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: right one? Because it would be really unfair to any
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: person if you're dating and you think it's the right
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: one and then all of a sudden they find out
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: when you're in a community that that they weren't based
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: on you being with somebody else. I I mean, maybe
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: you said it happens. How do you explain that moment?
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Is it just always like heartbreaking? Well, of course it's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: always heartbreaking, but the same respect Ashley is with Jared
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and marrying him, even how it came around, because it's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: more true or the one or whatever the word people choose,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: and I believe the same for you. I saw you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Ben when you broke up with Lauren, and it was
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: it was so brutal, like I could cry right now
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the pain might I felt because of the pain you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: were in. It was horrible. So that doesn't mean that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: that wasn't love. But this is different and dare I
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: say better? And my thing for Jed is that Jed
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: knew on some level that the previous relationship love whatever
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: you wanna call it, wasn't totally it or he never
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: would have gone on this show and he never would
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: have said to her like ended if you need to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: or were not committed, like he might have done things wrong.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's not perfect, but on some level they knew.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get a million letters on this, but
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: if her love was true, the truest love, she would
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: have never gone to People magazine. Well, I think she
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have let you go on the show. Yeah, that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: was my point earlier. Is it's like I would I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: don't understand why, Like it would be okay no matter
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: what I said, Like, can you like then imagine you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: know you're with um, what's her name, Jessica Jica? Alright,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: so you're with Jessica. This is before you know you're married,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: and you know you're you're in love with her, so
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: you say, but she tries to convince you that it's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: okay that she's gonna go do a dating show? How
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: are you going to be on that? Yeah? That's wild
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: to me. That makes me sick to my stomach. It does?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I get that point? Now? She was sug she would
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: never throw Jessica under the bus, no matter how hurt
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: he was, And I know that with every ounce of me,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: she could break his heart and he would not hurt
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: or like that. Yeah, I never thought about that way,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: is yeah if she if Jessica thinking about Jessica now,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the woman that I'm in love with, and she goes, yeah,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on a dating show to see where
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: it ends up. No, yeah, I mean that would have
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: been proof to me that you weren't that into me. Mhm.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I never thought about it, but I have a question,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: why not American Idol or the Voice if you're trying
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: to pursue a music career. This this lended in my lap.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, had American Idol messaged me and said, you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: come do this, come do that, maybe I would have.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: But this, this was what was presented in front of me.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I prayed about it, and it felt like the right
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: thing to do, and I believe it was. We just
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: don't know that yet. There will be something I don't
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: know that shows that this was the path you were
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: supposed to go on. Even if you learn, never to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: make this mistake again. I thoroughly believe that's what at
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: this moment it is. You know, it's like the worst
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: way to learn this lesson. It's the most painful way.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: It's in front of God and everyone, and you know, wholeheartedly,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I have learned, and I have changed, and I want
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: to live, you know, a different life. Did I feel
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: like from here on forward, you are never going to
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: give You're going to give exact details and straight up
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: and open honesty everywhere you got I'm gonna tell like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: way too much info to everyone. That bad. I mean,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: let's let's posters. I mean, that's not a bad thing.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: That's a good lesson learned, Jed. I mean, if your
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: lesson learned from all of this is as simple as
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: and maybe not, I mean maybe this isn't even simple.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Is from here on out, my honesty and my openness
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: and my vulnerability is going to far outwigh anything I'm
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: trying to hide. Then there's been heartbreak, and there's been tears,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: and there's been really unfortunate emotional damage done in the process.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: But if that's the lesson you learn, UM, then I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: would have to say some good is coming out of it.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: The second is Amy, You, out of anybody, has been um.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Especially during this podcast, you've been on Jed's side in
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a sense where you understand his circumstance and you understand
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: how this played out. I think it's it's fair for
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: our listeners and myself and Ashley. Because I might disagree
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: with you, that's what makes this podcast so beautiful, is
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: my opinion might be. Yeah, once you're in a relationship
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: with somebody, there isn't any going around it. But at
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: the same time, I can definitely see, um, well, let
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: me use this for example, when I went on Winter Games,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I was dating. When I went on Winter Games, you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: were like open to dating and trying dating definitely like I.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't go on Winter Games when I was like,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many months would you had to go
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: without dating to then say I'm open to going on
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: a show to see if there's my love of my
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: life there. I just knew it wasn't the love of
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: my life. I knew I had not met the love
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: of my life and that in that season, and so
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I said, I'll give this thing a shot. And I think, jed,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is for the difference maybe is that
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: that you were sharing the I love yous and that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you were sharing a vacation and and those are the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: things that I'm not fully grasping is if you're willing
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: to share that and say that. But again, there's one
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: person in the world that knows how you say I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: love you on national television. It's me, buddy. Um so Amy,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I think I'm not able to say I'm old. I'm
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: forty five, so I can look back at a time
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: when I fully believed I was in love with someone
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: completely Okay, like the love ist love, love, strong, painful love,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So like that means
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: it's not a perfect love. And I know that it's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: possible to very quickly fall in love with someone else
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: that is a better love and it cures you of
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the unfortunate or toxic love that you had before. That's
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: maybe the best way I can explain it. You think
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: the love was right, and it isn't until that other
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: person comes along and you realize this is what I want,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: this is better. I would like that. I was just
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: going to touch on the vacation thing, if that's okay, Sure, Okay.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: So the Bahama trip was a surprise gift from Hayley's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: parents to her for her birthday, which she happened to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: share with me on my birthday. Um, they covered the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: cost and we went and did this. And it wasn't
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: until three days before I fled to the Bahamas that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: I knew that I was going on the show I had.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: There was still no for sure. I hadn't been called back,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: and that was that was that. Um was it right
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: for me to go? Maybe not? But know, up until
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: that point, we had already bought flights and it happened,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: and you had told her that you had been fully
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: cast at that point it was three days before, and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: she she could have, I guess, to play Devil's advocate,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: been like, well, I don't want you to go anymore,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want you to go in the vacation
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: with me anymore. Right, I think she just didn't think
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: that you were going to make it as I don't think.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't think I expected to have
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: fall in love like, I mean, she's not wrong for that,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: but it's like you just my advice to anyone doing
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: the show is to just come in with a very
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: open mind that you might actually meet your person here.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I know, isn't it crazy? Yeah? You just you would
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: not think that at all. Just you might go there
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: for every wrong reason possible, but the person that God
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: intends for you to be with might be there. So
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: going with that mindset, gen to clear our close things
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: up here on the conversation about you and Hannah, Um,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: what did you do wrong? Let's just be if we
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: can break down this whole story, sum it up. Where
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: did you go wrong? I should have told her absolutely everything,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: get the fantasy suites. That's my biggest regret. I you know,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I wish I would have done that, and um, that's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: that's what I wish I would have done. It's a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: good answer. It's a good enough answer. And then finally,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: do you wish Hannah would have handled anything differently? Um?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: As this things played out? And if so, what I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I understand how she's hurt. I mean, this is hard.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: This was her you know, this was her journey and um,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: not to say that it wasn't a lot of the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: other guy's journey too, but like I mean, this is
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: this was about her finding her person ultimately, So I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: understand why she's so upset. And you know, it's so
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: hard once you hit that moment of engagement on there
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: to not want to go scream from the top of
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: the mountain that you know you found your person and
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: to feel like that wasn't the case after all that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: commitment has already happened is heavy and hard. So I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: do not condemn her fulfilling the way she does. Should
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: we jump into Tyler? We have to ask Tyler? Yeah,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And I feel bad we have to do this with you,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to do this with you, Jed,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about Hannah asking Tyler out for
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: drinks and that we have some further information on that.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Do we really need to do that with them here?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: We can maybe? Um, you know, going into that, you know,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: I had so many emotions, and you know, ultimately I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: just wanted to let her know how much remorseful and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: sorry I was. But I just had a to feeling
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: that something was going to come up like that, and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't really have anything negative to say
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: about it. I just ultimately wanted to be happy. Well, yeah,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: we can talk about it when you leave them. Yeah,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: are do? We should we get into some lighter fan
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: questions now, there is one question I really like. Is
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: it a question or a statement? It's a question, did
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: you pack any other jackets than the brown one while
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: you were filming? Are you talking about the leather one?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I was just going to ask, because it
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: was the most like question I could read. Oh my god, So, um,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: you know, the packing list is huge and my suitcase
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: was only so big, and I was like, you know,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: surely we're going to be in tropical places, so I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: should just bring probably one jacket. So that's that's exactly
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: what I did. So you know, I looked like a
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: hunter gatherer for for most of the show. And you know,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. Um, what is the what's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: the dog music jingle that you came up with? What's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: what dog food is it for? That's a pretty big
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I know they are, but like that's a pretty big deal.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about Charlie. She made a living on that
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: in two and a half man. Yeah, and he lived
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: on the Pacific Coast Highway. Yeah. I mean, I think
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: dogs are awesome, and I also think royalties are awesome.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed of that, and I think that you know,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: it is a joke right now, and to be honest,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I laugh about it too. It's it's a funny thing
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to hear. But I just really thought the company was
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: cool and what they were about seem cool, and so
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I got on board. And you know, her dad asked
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: me what my most recent achievement was or whatever greatest achievement.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: But I don't think he weighed out the actual possibilities
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: of it, which is fine. I mean, outside looking in,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: if you don't know anything, then it's like that sounds
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: so stupid, But I'm dog jingle doesn't sound stupid to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: me at all? How many times? And are you like
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: looking for something? You're like, I need blinds. Then you're like, oh,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: then you like sing the jingle for blinds or something.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: It's like those things really work. Can you sing us
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: the jingle? Or is it like totally copyrighted? This would
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: not be a show with Jed unless we got him
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: singing at some point, but we can't do it because
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: of copy right. Uh. I think the company is gonna
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: love the shout out. They probably would appreciate it it.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Of course, I drink coffee and haven't slept in days,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: so here we'll go for it, but shout out better balls.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: You guys have been cool to me. Um, all right, Yes,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: we're here. You've got our support. We are with you.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Jet all right, all right. If you really want to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: give your dog the best, you gotta pick him up
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: some bed a bow. Yes, finally something to smile over. Right.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: You can also smile over the fact that I think
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: you look like a young justin Timberlake. Wow, thank you,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: You're welcome. You don't think I look like broccoli head?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Who's broccoli? That's that's the memes I'm saying, I'm brocco. Heead,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: it's fine. It's fine, broccoli head, because I was critical.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: But we've never been critical like that. We would never
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: make fun of that, not a broccoli head. You're a
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: young justin Timberlake. We only make fun. Don't know if
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: you're a young justin Timberlake in any way whatsoever. I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: don't get that. Really, my sister saw it too. I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: know who you look like, but I can't bring myself
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: to bring it up because yeah, I can't handle talking
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: about it. No handsome but just like too many scars,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: too much pain and damage. I'm curious, all right, what
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: was your favorite off scene moment on The Bachelor at
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: that didn't have to include maybe not including Hannah, like
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: a good bro moment I have, like I have, I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: have three? Okay, yeah, tell us all three. So while
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: we were still at the mansion, Dylan Barber and I
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: would put on these ridiculously colored suits that he brought.
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  Speaker 1: One was catchup red and the other was mustard yellow,
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  Speaker 1: and we would put we would put sunglasses on, and
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  Speaker 1: we would go interrupt people's interviews, and then we would
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  Speaker 1: sit on a couch and talk with the emotion you've
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  Speaker 1: ever heard in your life about literally everyone. It was
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  Speaker 1: just a roast fest. Will you be watching Paradise? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it starts this Monday because your friends are on it. Yeah. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Second moment was also at the Mansion. I was sitting
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  Speaker 1: outside on the couch and John Paul I can't even say,
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  Speaker 1: we have a laugh. That's great. It's like insects in
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  Speaker 1: the City, you know the movie when they're like something
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  Speaker 1: one day, really funny. He's going to make you laugh
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  Speaker 1: and nothing is funnier than diarrhea. Oh god, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about that in the city. Um So, John Paul
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  Speaker 1: Jones walks over and he's kind of purchased, like Smegel
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  Speaker 1: from Lord of the Rings, next to me on the
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  Speaker 1: couch and he's drinking some cocktail and he's glaring around,
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  Speaker 1: and then he glares at me and he says, oh God,
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  Speaker 1: get it out. He's like, oh shoot, I was. I
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  Speaker 1: was really hoping they were filming. This is a really
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  Speaker 1: cool way to sit. I have not forgotten that. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the third was also a John Paul Jones moment,
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  Speaker 1: like I love that guy so much. He just he's
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  Speaker 1: inevitably himself no matter what's going on or where he is,
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  Speaker 1: and he deserves all the love in the world. But
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  Speaker 1: we were it was at the Bay a by date
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  Speaker 1: and Um we had just kind of like switched scenes
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, and they had started filming again, and no
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  Speaker 1: one knew where he went. Oh god, he was back
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  Speaker 1: in the labor chair. He was hot, he was he
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  Speaker 1: was tucked down behind the rocking chairs where they were
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  Speaker 1: like doing like the nursing thing and taking his undershirt
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  Speaker 1: off under his shirt like doing these things. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: want anybody to see his chest. Yea, no one knew
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  Speaker 1: where he went. And he popped up and he was
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  Speaker 1: just like saying something was up with his pits or something.
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  Speaker 1: It was just funny. Everyone lost it. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of those moments in Paradise. Think do
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  Speaker 1: you declare? I'm sure I have a feeling jed Once again,
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  Speaker 1: man Um, thanks for coming on the podcast. I know
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  Speaker 1: it's been a big day. I know you've been all
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  Speaker 1: over the place. Uh. We like to do this with
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  Speaker 1: every in depth UM episode and in any time anybody
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  Speaker 1: really comes onto the podcast to explain who they are
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  Speaker 1: and what they're doing. Uh, your question is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different. We typically ask what do you
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  Speaker 1: want your legacy to be? Like, how do you want
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  Speaker 1: people to remember you? I think it's appropriate for me
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  Speaker 1: to ask you in a moment, in a season where
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  Speaker 1: things are swirling around you and there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: negativity and confusion, and I am super interested in seeing
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  Speaker 1: the responses um from our listeners on how they would
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  Speaker 1: handle a situation similar to yours. But I want to
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  Speaker 1: ask you, Jed, to close out this podcast, what do
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  Speaker 1: you want fans to know about you? And in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: what is your plea to anybody listening to clear up
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  Speaker 1: all that's happening, to admit to any fault, and also
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  Speaker 1: how you would hope everybody can move forward together. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great question. I think that I'm human and
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  Speaker 1: that I make mistakes. I make them daily. Um I'm
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  Speaker 1: not perfect. I'm not perfect, I never will be. But
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  Speaker 1: I've I've learned my lesson through all of this and
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  Speaker 1: that I do want to grow and I will grow,
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  Speaker 1: and that I want the absolute best for Hannah. I
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  Speaker 1: want her to be happy. I have nothing but love
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  Speaker 1: for love and support for her with the guys, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, for the fact that like though it's been
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  Speaker 1: hard that I have learned one of the biggest lessons
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  Speaker 1: in my life. Hey, ma'am, we aren't learning lessons, we
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: ain't doing some things right. So again I appreciate you,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. I can't say I agree with
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  Speaker 1: every decision you made. I honestly would tell you I
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  Speaker 1: disagree with some of them. Um. But what I can
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  Speaker 1: say is is talking to you today, any any human
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  Speaker 1: that will admit fault um is somebody I can respect
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  Speaker 1: and uh, even amongst the things that's been done and
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  Speaker 1: the people that's been heard along the way, I can
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  Speaker 1: at least say um. It takes a big person to
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  Speaker 1: say they're wrong, especially um when the world is watching.
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  Speaker 1: So with that, this has been in depth with Jed Wyatt.
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  Speaker 1: I've been been all along, I've been Ashley, and I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: have been Jed. Guys for having me, of course, it's
• 1:19:17
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