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Diogenes Club | E21 - Let's Talk About It · Diogenes Club

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SPEAKER_02: hello hello everyone
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SPEAKER_02: as we start coming on in
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SPEAKER_02: i've just seen me a couple
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SPEAKER_02: and hopefully Substack actually decides to work for us
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SPEAKER_02: and i'm hoping this doesn't do this back and forth bullshit that
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SPEAKER_02: um and so i
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SPEAKER_02: wanted to jump on before evan gets here we are not going to have eric
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SPEAKER_02: with us today
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SPEAKER_02: uh he's flying walter's
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SPEAKER_02: but i wanted to get on this morning um
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SPEAKER_02: or this afternoon you're getting a
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SPEAKER_02: getting or whatever time is i want to start our day
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SPEAKER_02: with our call to action
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SPEAKER_02: um so
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SPEAKER_02: that we can say no to crip crow together and
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SPEAKER_02: so
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SPEAKER_02: man jacking up our lives like i don't know what's going onSubstack
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SPEAKER_02: but you really
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SPEAKER_02: fix this shit
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SPEAKER_02: if you have to please come watch us on
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SPEAKER_02: YouTube I know
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SPEAKER_02: that
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SPEAKER_02: everyone's preferred destination
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SPEAKER_02: we recommend you for support on the subject
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SPEAKER_02: right since we know that's our main plot
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SPEAKER_02: is if you can is turn it on
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SPEAKER_02: that you can be
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SPEAKER_03: on the chat onSubstack that's where i'm that's where we're
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SPEAKER_03: active for our um
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SPEAKER_03: for our community
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SPEAKER_03: so please join us there are having some issues right now connecting each other um
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SPEAKER_02: It doesn't it sounds like this isn't
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SPEAKER_02: A restream
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SPEAKER_02: I
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SPEAKER_02: And we're, it's frustrating.
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SPEAKER_02: It's frustrating for you guys.
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SPEAKER_02: Frustrating for us.
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SPEAKER_02: whole stream the last time on for really sucks
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SPEAKER_02: that
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SPEAKER_02: substack's feed system is is doing
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SPEAKER_02: right now and in being such a
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SPEAKER_02: ask
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SPEAKER_02: because right now is an important
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SPEAKER_02: conversation is i want
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SPEAKER_02: is i want to do our call
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SPEAKER_02: to action
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SPEAKER_02: to say no to cryptcrow together
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SPEAKER_02: on theSubstack side um and
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SPEAKER_02: in our chat as always
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SPEAKER_02: the um the link here
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SPEAKER_02: the qr code in the top corner go to cryptcrow it's
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SPEAKER_02: the broad banner web page where
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SPEAKER_02: we are asking that folks support our efforts for
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SPEAKER_02: coordinated call to action opposing
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SPEAKER_02: the doj
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SPEAKER_02: and with it the rights of disabled people
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SPEAKER_02: in their communities
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SPEAKER_02: without forced institutionalization segregation or discrimination
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SPEAKER_02: um and so we're doing a call down to
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SPEAKER_02: to that
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SPEAKER_02: i don't know what that
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SPEAKER_02: so you're just i'm gonna block you for that i'm not
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SPEAKER_02: taking that
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SPEAKER_02: as we do this we're not gonna do fucking sex no thanks um
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SPEAKER_02: doing right now though is
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SPEAKER_02: for anyone who can in the qr code anyone who um
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SPEAKER_02: jumps to the link
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SPEAKER_02: um
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SPEAKER_02: that we have
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SPEAKER_02: broad brand broad banner slash rip dash crow
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SPEAKER_02: is there is a script i
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SPEAKER_02: daily call to action um
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SPEAKER_02: where i call my representative's office and all my senators offices
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SPEAKER_02: and we're gaff um and i am
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SPEAKER_02: to try and get as many people
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SPEAKER_02: on this
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SPEAKER_02: sorry again
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SPEAKER_02: yeah it's
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SPEAKER_02: thank you
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SPEAKER_02: to naida green in our chat
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SPEAKER_02: for putting
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SPEAKER_02: a link also
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SPEAKER_02: where we
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SPEAKER_02: youtube right now
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SPEAKER_02: come listen
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SPEAKER_02: on youtube stay in the chat
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SPEAKER_02: will be a part of the chat and the discussion um
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SPEAKER_02: and naida's gonna continue putting out that the link for us for
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SPEAKER_02: the youtube side what i'm gonna do is i'm pulling my the links and the phone numbers
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SPEAKER_02: for my representative and my senator
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SPEAKER_02: and we're gonna we're gonna do our daily calls
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SPEAKER_02: though
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SPEAKER_02: i'm live and so you
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SPEAKER_02: are not in your phone forSubstack if you are watching this on
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SPEAKER_02: a computer it sounds like evan trying to get
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SPEAKER_02: in
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SPEAKER_02: um we're gonna have evan join
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SPEAKER_02: soon um
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SPEAKER_02: evan's having some issues right now getting in
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SPEAKER_02: um and so what we're going to do
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SPEAKER_02: though is go to youtube listen there we're going
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SPEAKER_02: to make our calls right now live is uh the reason on live is to help train and
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SPEAKER_02: help show people how to do it and how it's simple and it doesn't take
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SPEAKER_02: for
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SPEAKER_02: um
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SPEAKER_02: and your voice and then listen to um
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SPEAKER_02: and so we're gonna get it
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SPEAKER_02: so i am a
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SPEAKER_02: member or i am a resident of arkansas to me
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SPEAKER_02: right now that does not matter
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SPEAKER_02: to me doesn't matter who your representative
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SPEAKER_02: or your senators are be blue d be sorry bd be
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SPEAKER_02: to every representative and every senator that's out there
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SPEAKER_02: so I'm gonna be calling my two this is
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SPEAKER_02: for my senators first
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna call senator John
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SPEAKER_02: audience and I know
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SPEAKER_02: on Substack you're really not able to very well but I'm
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SPEAKER_02: i encourage everyone in the audience to join us in
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SPEAKER_02: and do it together
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SPEAKER_02: go
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SPEAKER_02: to youtube um watch it on your computer or your tv if you can pull us up there um
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SPEAKER_02: and we'll come and you'll be able to hear what we are talking about
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SPEAKER_02: with senator john
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SPEAKER_02: office and so i'm gonna
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SPEAKER_02: get my dialing here um
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SPEAKER_02: and hopefully
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SPEAKER_02: and i will mute myself oh that was weird
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SPEAKER_03: hi my name is nick pero and i am a resident of
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SPEAKER_01: and i'm calling to strongly encourage senator boosman to advocate for
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SPEAKER_01: the disability community by exercising his authority
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SPEAKER_01: and fulfilling his responsibilities to uphold the rule of law defend
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SPEAKER_01: the constitution and oppose the overreach of the department of justice i'm concerned
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SPEAKER_01: that the department of justice's memorandum concerning olmstead may enable states
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SPEAKER_01: and u.s territories to cease funding community-based services potentially leading
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SPEAKER_03: to resegregation
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SPEAKER_03: and the involuntary institutionalization of individuals within the disability community.
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SPEAKER_01: As a constituent,
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SPEAKER_01: I respectfully urge Senator Boozman to formally reject the DOJ memo concerning
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SPEAKER_01: the Olmstead decision and to enshrine the Olmstead decision into statutory law
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SPEAKER_01: through legislative amendment to the Americans with Disabilities Act.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you, and I appreciate the time.
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SPEAKER_03: What's up, Evan?
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SPEAKER_00: what's up man i apologize i was trying to get it done
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SPEAKER_00: on my computer i don't know what the hell was going on
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SPEAKER_00: but we'll do it live okay we'll do it live i'm here hey you showed up
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SPEAKER_03: and our Substack screen seems to have finally like caught up and isn't glitching out
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SPEAKER_03: on us at the moment so whatever you did your magic made it work
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SPEAKER_00: so well i don't know what is going on
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SPEAKER_03: what's up man how are you doing i'm i'm doing pretty well really really super busy
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SPEAKER_00: um yeah yeah i know you were talking with the man what was it yesterday yeah i was
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SPEAKER_03: on jim acosta yesterday huh that was yeah that was super fun dude i you are doing
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SPEAKER_00: so good you know that thanks man i am
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SPEAKER_00: i'm honestly i don't know i know how this started out like uh
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SPEAKER_00: that you guys were rallying around me
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SPEAKER_00: and everything with my personal stuff but i'm proud of you dude you are working your ass off
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SPEAKER_00: and i think that that i think
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SPEAKER_00: that big of a show and that big have an interview and stuff is just proof of like
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SPEAKER_00: how much you've been doing and how good you've done
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SPEAKER_00: doing and it's really fucking good to see you know what i mean
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SPEAKER_03: thanks man i've been i've been working my ass off and i'm i credit everything
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SPEAKER_01: that um that is going on to my
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SPEAKER_01: like i credit a lot of my success
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SPEAKER_01: to those around me too like and the community that's around me in
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SPEAKER_01: the community that's been built up and
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SPEAKER_01: especially in these last two almost three weeks now the incredible work
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SPEAKER_01: that i've been able to do in partnership with disability community for democracy
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SPEAKER_01: and naida green and the team over there like that partnership i think is one of
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SPEAKER_01: the most if not the most important one that i've ever come across and you jumped
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SPEAKER_01: in right as i was getting done with my first of the phone calls for the day
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SPEAKER_01: um for my reps and senators and so i'm gonna i'm gonna do my second phone call too
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SPEAKER_01: so everybody can hear it also because this is this is a little bit of training
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SPEAKER_01: for everyone um is how to make a simple phone call to your rep and senators
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SPEAKER_01: and mine my first one uh senator boosman was not
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SPEAKER_01: or his staff were not in the office um it is two days before the 4th of july so that might
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SPEAKER_01: not be entirely surprising but i want to have them come back to a bunch of voicemails
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SPEAKER_01: like good i want them to come back from me every day at this point yeah they're not going
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SPEAKER_01: to answer and so the next person i'm going to be calling and i've got his phone number primed
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SPEAKER_01: right here is one of the our favorite people of every
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SPEAKER_01: is senator tom cotton
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SPEAKER_03: that's
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SPEAKER_03: the face i make every time i think oh oof um i know you're
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SPEAKER_00: in arkansas you've got like house
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SPEAKER_00: and senate you've got republicans right mm-hmm yeah my
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SPEAKER_01: so my senators are john boosman um and tom cotton my
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SPEAKER_01: representative is steve womack um and i we are a red super majority
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SPEAKER_01: for state level um however we have picked up the democratic party
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SPEAKER_01: in our state has picked up multiple seat
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SPEAKER_01: or has started picking up seats again um we were one of the few states
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SPEAKER_01: where seats were picked up on a state level um during the 2024 election cycle um
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SPEAKER_01: which says a lot about what we're doing here in arkansas um the races
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SPEAKER_01: that are ongoing right now are really competitive for some
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SPEAKER_01: of them doug jones is challenging uh rep french hill and is showing in the lead um
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SPEAKER_01: at this point um hallie schaffner is challenging tom cotton um and that's going
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SPEAKER_01: to be an uphill slog its entire time but
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SPEAKER_01: getting challenges to these folks are really important and we're going
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SPEAKER_01: to have governor gubernatorial challengers we have a democratic challenger here
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SPEAKER_01: against steve womack and so we're working on it we're working on it
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SPEAKER_00: in this state yeah i mean i'm i'm really excited about the direction that
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SPEAKER_00: I think just the whole country's going.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that a lot of us were nervous about it,
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SPEAKER_00: like as far as how are the midterms gonna go?
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SPEAKER_00: How's this gonna go ?
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SPEAKER_00: Are we gonna get out of this funk
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SPEAKER_00: that the whole county's been in
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SPEAKER_00: because of this ridiculous regime and everything?
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SPEAKER_00: And here in Colorado,
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SPEAKER_00: it was Phil Weiner,
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SPEAKER_00: he won the primary for the Democrats
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SPEAKER_00: for the governor race
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SPEAKER_00: and I'm
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SPEAKER_00: i don't know i'm pretty sure i know i should know better
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SPEAKER_00: but i'm pretty sure it was um michael bennett that he was running against
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SPEAKER_00: the senate senator bennett and it there's this just like progressive
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SPEAKER_00: and forward moving um moment that's happening as far as just races all across
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SPEAKER_00: the country
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SPEAKER_00: and we're seeing it in the primaries and everything and i think
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SPEAKER_00: that people are starting to be able to like take a breath
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SPEAKER_00: and realize we're all gonna be okay what's going on i'm getting
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SPEAKER_00: a phone call i'll be right back i'm hoping it's
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SPEAKER_00: a doctor oh sick he's just gonna put me on
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SPEAKER_00: the spot like this how's everybody doing um i know that i have been
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SPEAKER_00: Out of the funk for a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been really busy with personal stuff and trying to get my life in order.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know. I'm doing a lot of writing lately so um...
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SPEAKER_00: I know that I've been kind of MIA for live streams and stuff,
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SPEAKER_00: but I am glad to be here.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm glad to see all you guys.
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SPEAKER_00: I know that
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SPEAKER_00: i'm on my phone right now so i can't necessarily see
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SPEAKER_00: the chat i don't i don't know what is going on with
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SPEAKER_00: the internet right now like i can pull it up on some stack and everything
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SPEAKER_00: but um yeah like i was telling nick i'm just excited i think that we're in
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SPEAKER_00: a good we're in a good place and we're going in a good direction and um
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SPEAKER_00: yeah i'm just i'm just excited i think it's a big relief more than anything
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SPEAKER_00: that we were all kind of nerd well i mean we still have reason to be nervous about
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SPEAKER_00: the midterms with um ice and the polling places and all that bullshit but i think
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SPEAKER_00: that we're making smart moves i think we're heading in the right direction
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SPEAKER_00: and i honestly think
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SPEAKER_00: that we're gonna be okay you know what i mean like i i really do
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SPEAKER_00: i think that i think november is going to surprise a lot of people yes
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SPEAKER_01: and i think there's a yes and there is we're going to be okay if we're also willing
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SPEAKER_01: to confront the issues in our own house and yes both on the more progressive side of
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SPEAKER_03: the house and the more
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SPEAKER_03: centrist or conservative side of the house
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SPEAKER_01: because it's not it's not conservative versus liberal anymore at least
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SPEAKER_01: in my eyes it is regressive versus pro progressive and you either want
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SPEAKER_01: to regress our rights and our freedoms or you want to progress them forward and
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SPEAKER_01: i think we need to be talking in those terms um but we also need to be willing
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SPEAKER_01: to call out when there's antisemitism on the left when there's misogyny on the left
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SPEAKER_01: when there's just as we do on the right we need to call it out just as vehemently
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SPEAKER_01: and just as openly and talk about it um but before we get into
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SPEAKER_01: that let me call senator tom cotton oh and that was not a doctor that was actually
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SPEAKER_01: a good news call for me which is
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SPEAKER_01: we've been waiting on freaking paperwork for my daughter's birth certificate with
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SPEAKER_01: since her adoption since i adopted her um it's finally
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SPEAKER_01: in really that's awesome it's been a year since we finalized the adoption too
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SPEAKER_00: the gears of the government grind slowly that's for damn sure and it's a shame
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SPEAKER_00: but that's good news man
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SPEAKER_01: yeah thanks team for like taking forever
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SPEAKER_01: yeah it's super good
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SPEAKER_01: after this show I'm going to go tell her
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SPEAKER_01: too is we're gonna go pick
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SPEAKER_01: up her birth certificate with her
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SPEAKER_01: she's gonna be stoked
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SPEAKER_01: name on it
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SPEAKER_01: oh she's so excited
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SPEAKER_01: really
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SPEAKER_01: yeah she got to speak
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SPEAKER_01: for herself
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SPEAKER_01: um
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SPEAKER_01: she got
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SPEAKER_01: to speak
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SPEAKER_01: for herself in
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SPEAKER_03: court last year to say that she wanted
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SPEAKER_01: they they consider her old enough to at least make this the decision
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SPEAKER_01: and understand enough what is going on to make that decision of yes or no i want
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SPEAKER_01: to have this person as my permanent parent forever
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SPEAKER_03: and she did she did she said it anyways while she was there and
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SPEAKER_01: now we get all our stuff and i'm so excited because now we can go to we can
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SPEAKER_01: go through all the paperwork process on the arkansas side
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SPEAKER_01: to get new um new passport new social security card everything
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SPEAKER_01: we need so that she's all good to go
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SPEAKER_01: um we've been waiting for this for a long time this also lets off a huge
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SPEAKER_01: pressure from my shoulders of
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SPEAKER_01: that waiting
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SPEAKER_01: of like
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SPEAKER_01: legally i am her only uh father on that's what i was gonna say is
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SPEAKER_00: that you're already you're already dad but i think it's like that just
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SPEAKER_00: the formal stamp that's just like yes like it's that final step to get all
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SPEAKER_00: that taken care of that kind of finally solidifies it to
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SPEAKER_00: where i don't know it's just recognized and it's like a
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SPEAKER_00: small thing overall but it's very meaningful for you guys to have that on paper
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SPEAKER_01: and everything it's good and for us like for me and for her we talk about it
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SPEAKER_01: a lot too and like in our eyes it's just it brings that final piece
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SPEAKER_01: where she sometimes felt like she was left out because she didn't have
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SPEAKER_01: the same last name as everyone in the family yeah um
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SPEAKER_01: and i know last names don't aren't really that important we never made
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SPEAKER_01: that a huge thing but she there was always this slight feeling
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SPEAKER_01: of being left out um yeah of course
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SPEAKER_00: and especially like school and uh i like a 13 year old having to explain
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SPEAKER_00: my last name is different because of this like it's it's kind of
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SPEAKER_00: You
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SPEAKER_00: i'm sure it's very very very meaningful for her i'm sure that it it is for me i know
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SPEAKER_00: that yeah so can you imagine from
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SPEAKER_00: a 13 year old's perspective it's like finally that's dad now like in the eyes of
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SPEAKER_00: the eyes of the government you know what i mean it's and at school yeah that's
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SPEAKER_01: the big one is at school now she doesn't have
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SPEAKER_01: to say well that's not really my last name like i'm i'm actually this
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SPEAKER_03: and now she can just be like
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SPEAKER_03: this is who i am this is this is who i've been now she's lower on the the list
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SPEAKER_03: of like alphabetical order she goes from the front of the line to the back of
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SPEAKER_03: the line in alphabetical order but she's okay with that yeah and i'm okay with that
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SPEAKER_03: so are we calling tom oh yeah with
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SPEAKER_03: that good news i'm gonna i'm gonna call mr tommy cotton here um and
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SPEAKER_03: then i'll be calling do i just listen in
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SPEAKER_03: yeah you do i do these i will do these like i do um also since like
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SPEAKER_03: for anyone who's new with us who's this is
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SPEAKER_03: the first this is we won't do this normally on the shows i'm going to be doing a uh
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SPEAKER_02: for it
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SPEAKER_02: self on like once
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SPEAKER_02: once a week and it's more for
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SPEAKER_02: ask people if they want to come up and participate to and be a part of it so
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SPEAKER_02: that we can train ourselves how
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SPEAKER_02: to make effective phone oh my god just started freaking out again
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SPEAKER_02: the second i started talking about this
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SPEAKER_02: really yeah
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SPEAKER_03: this morning was all fucked up this like go to youtube if you need
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SPEAKER_02: to like your friends um go to youtube if you need
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SPEAKER_02: to uh i don't Substack is being bullshit right now
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SPEAKER_02: but it's not gonna stop me let's go make this call i'm gonna call tommy um
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SPEAKER_00: to myself um yeah we don't need can't be out here doxing yourself you know yeah i
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SPEAKER_01: ain't gonna be dumb enough
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SPEAKER_01: to dox myself i'm gonna watch this thing i'm gonna watch Substack do its thing too
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SPEAKER_01: and the second i get off this call i bet it's gonna stabilize yeah i'm sure
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SPEAKER_03: because say no
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SPEAKER_03: to crip crow Substack we hear you we see you no disability category none of
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SPEAKER_00: that shit
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SPEAKER_00: laura said in the chat not a coincidence no no not
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SPEAKER_00: a coincidence like i don't care like listen to me all you want spy
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SPEAKER_00: on me all you want my life is boring but like i notice the shit like especially
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SPEAKER_00: on threads like i'll be talking to my girlfriend about it like just whatever and
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SPEAKER_00: then it'll pop up on threads like you'll start seeing posts and everything
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SPEAKER_00: and i'm like fucking zuckerberg dude like uh-huh
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SPEAKER_03: yeah if you have a meta app open or a google app open they record your
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SPEAKER_01: on your phone they record shit they catch snippets
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SPEAKER_01: and you get stuff it's it's it's disgusting all right we're gonna try this let's do
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SPEAKER_03: it
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SPEAKER_01: probably gonna go to voicemail fuck you tom
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SPEAKER_01: voicemail
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SPEAKER_01: i'm calling to strongly encourage senator cotton to advocate for
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SPEAKER_01: the disability community by exercising his authority
29:45
SPEAKER_01: and fulfilling his responsibilities to uphold the rule of law defend
29:49
SPEAKER_01: the constitution and oppose the overreach of the department of justice
29:53
SPEAKER_01: i am concerned that the department of justice's memorandum may enable states
29:58
SPEAKER_01: and u.s territories to cease funding community-based services potentially leading
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SPEAKER_01: to resegregation and the involuntary institutionalization of individuals within
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SPEAKER_01: the disability community as a constituent i respectfully urge senator cotton
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SPEAKER_01: to formally reject the doj memo concerning the olmstead decision
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SPEAKER_01: and to enshrine the olmsted decision into statutory law
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SPEAKER_01: through legislative amendment to the americans
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SPEAKER_01: with disabilities act thank you fuck you tom it's a good thing he can't hear
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SPEAKER_01: that hey but we went through that whole phone call without it glitching out
30:39
SPEAKER_00: that was good good news um the olmsted act the olmsted uh memorandum can
30:50
SPEAKER_00: just because i'm me can you break it down like barney style
30:53
SPEAKER_03: for me yes absolutely will um i think that might be good for
30:58
SPEAKER_00: if there's any new people like in the live stream or anything too just kind of like
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SPEAKER_00: a layman's terms of exactly what's going on because it's yeah fucking horrible
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SPEAKER_03: from what i know yes so the um so what is it and why does it matter
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SPEAKER_03: um and so for anyone to if you can or if you want over evan's head on that side of
31:24
SPEAKER_03: the screen is a qr code for no crip crow um which is the banner and backbone
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SPEAKER_01: or sorry the broad banner web page
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SPEAKER_01: of broadbanner.com slash crip dash crow i'll make sure i'll even put a caption on
31:40
SPEAKER_01: the bottom of the screen um
31:43
SPEAKER_00: yeah and i think i just shared like the link for it on my Substack yesterday too
31:48
SPEAKER_03: so it's on there and and so go to this web page what this web page is is our call
31:57
SPEAKER_01: to action and a way for people to be able to find oh crypt
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SPEAKER_01: that crop no script dash crow sorry get it together nick get your shit together man
32:11
SPEAKER_01: um
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SPEAKER_01: is um i don't know why i keep doing that the w's on the other end of
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SPEAKER_01: the keyboard too um is go to go to our webpage there's scripts there's templates
32:27
SPEAKER_01: for phone call email and fax there's also a way to find your representative
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SPEAKER_01: and your senator and their phone number um is so what is it the ohms
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SPEAKER_03: the 1999 olmstead decision
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SPEAKER_01: is a supreme court ruling which established the rights of people with disabilities
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SPEAKER_01: to live in their community and not be forcibly institutionalized
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SPEAKER_01: it enabled
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SPEAKER_01: and opened
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SPEAKER_01: at home care for folks with disabilities to live in their home and
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SPEAKER_01: to receive inpatient treatment and in community treatment
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SPEAKER_01: without the fear that they would be forcibly institutionalized if they went to
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SPEAKER_01: a facility and this also helped end it for veterans who many of us still fear going
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SPEAKER_01: to the va for our mental health and the idea of us very much so institutionalized
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SPEAKER_01: and this would enable that i just want people to be clear this would enable that um
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SPEAKER_01: it fucking scares me man yes and so it's come out bloomberg i believe it was posted
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SPEAKER_01: or put an article out on this first of it was like bloomberg news yeah
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SPEAKER_01: that steven miller is behind the memo um
33:59
SPEAKER_01: which doesn't fucking um fucking gogles like yeah it doesn't surprise me at all and
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SPEAKER_03: so then on june 18th
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SPEAKER_01: the department of justice issued a memo titled application of the rehabilitation act
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SPEAKER_01: and americans with disabilities act to state institutionalization of patients
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SPEAKER_01: with severe mental illness or disabilities and basically what they're saying in
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SPEAKER_01: the memo is that the 1999 olmstead decision which is only
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SPEAKER_03: a supreme court decision there's no codified law about this
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SPEAKER_03: which is a problem because we've seen what happens
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SPEAKER_01: when supreme court precedent isn't codified and the memo is meant to undermine all
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SPEAKER_01: of our rights on it all of our and re and allow states
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SPEAKER_01: to re forcibly institutionalize us and i know what i do about this
34:58
SPEAKER_01: because i have been taught this and i have started looking into it
35:03
SPEAKER_01: by the incredible support of naida green and the disability community
35:08
SPEAKER_01: for democracy i know i've already mentioned them but i'm going to continue
35:11
SPEAKER_01: to mention them like over and over and over again if you're not subscribed
35:15
SPEAKER_00: to them she is fantastic by far in a way like
35:21
SPEAKER_00: the most impressive person i've seen advocating for disability rights
35:25
SPEAKER_00: and just it yeah she's amazing
35:30
SPEAKER_01: i hear you're going to be talking to her later today too yeah yeah hopefully as long
35:34
SPEAKER_00: as as long as we don't run into crazy technical issues that seem to be going
35:39
SPEAKER_03: on today yeah come on Substack fix your shit um and so yeah
35:45
SPEAKER_01: so we have come together uh the disability community for democracy and the
35:54
SPEAKER_01: and circulation publications to partner on this effort to say no to crip crow and
36:00
SPEAKER_01: to get people involved and people calling and making the effort in a person way in
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SPEAKER_01: a human first way and not through automated tools like resist bot or
36:17
SPEAKER_01: we're not authoring change.org petitions that is different
36:21
SPEAKER_01: than resist bot change.org you still have to like actually bring the petition
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SPEAKER_01: to congress or to a person and hand it in person it's just a way
36:30
SPEAKER_01: to collect signatures resist bot is different because it's taking
36:34
SPEAKER_01: the human factor out of making calls and out of getting in touch with your senators
36:39
SPEAKER_01: and your representative because the whole point of this is it needs to be
36:46
SPEAKER_03: a million voices a day or more calling it needs
36:50
SPEAKER_03: to be people telling their story telling congress how this would impact them
36:58
SPEAKER_03: and their lives and their families
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SPEAKER_03: and those around them like disability rights are rights
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SPEAKER_03: for everybody accessibility is for everybody equity is for everybody
37:13
SPEAKER_00: ada is one of the most important pieces of legislation and laws
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SPEAKER_00: that we have ever had like it is signed into law
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SPEAKER_03: by george hw bush saying it was his most important piece of legislation it's it's
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SPEAKER_00: a protection for not only you and me but like severely disabled people
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SPEAKER_00: that don't necessarily have the ability to fight for themselves that
37:43
SPEAKER_00: there are workplace accommodations and it's it's one of those things
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SPEAKER_00: that just it levels the playing field and makes things okay for people
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SPEAKER_00: and makes sure that they know that they're protected and the fact
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SPEAKER_00: that we have this fascist bullshit going on where because that was one of
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SPEAKER_00: the things it was the first thing i thought about was like this is exactly what
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SPEAKER_00: the nazis did
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SPEAKER_00: like they went after disabled people
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SPEAKER_00: and it's just fucking evil dude like i can't there's like no words to put on it like
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SPEAKER_00: the evil shit that they're doing
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SPEAKER_00: the
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SPEAKER_00: they're just fucking bullies man like it's disgusting yeah what it is it's
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SPEAKER_00: unfathomable that the most vulnerable members like of our society are being targeted
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SPEAKER_00: it's not by a political party
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SPEAKER_00: It's not any of that
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SPEAKER_00: It's just
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SPEAKER_00: people who are trying to exist
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SPEAKER_00: and trying to make it through life
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SPEAKER_00: without being fucking terrorized
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SPEAKER_00: And they just want
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SPEAKER_00: A fair shot
38:57
SPEAKER_00: And you've got somebody like Stephen Miller
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SPEAKER_00: Who
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SPEAKER_00: Is a piece of shit
39:03
SPEAKER_00: I fucking hate
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SPEAKER_00: That guy
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SPEAKER_00: Mostly
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SPEAKER_00: like
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SPEAKER_00: just because of how he looks like,
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SPEAKER_00: He looks like a fucking gremlin and just this dickhead evil person.
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SPEAKER_00: But then he backs it up like, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And there's like the high school videos of him and everything.
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SPEAKER_00: Like he's been an asshole his entire life.
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SPEAKER_00: For him to be in the position to take away rights from disabled people
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SPEAKER_00: and try to institutionalize them against their will is it's fucking sickening man like
39:39
SPEAKER_03: well let me call steve womack's office real quick
39:42
SPEAKER_01: so we can do my i'll do my final third call of the morning and then i want to dig
39:46
SPEAKER_01: into the next steps with you on what i see this would lead to
39:54
SPEAKER_01: because i think it's really important that we talk about not only that this is
39:59
SPEAKER_01: an attack on disability rights but this is an attempt to make dissent become
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SPEAKER_01: a disability yes so
40:07
SPEAKER_03: let me call stevie here he i've actually spoken with him with his office
40:13
SPEAKER_03: a couple times and they're very friendly i haven't gotten a call back
40:17
SPEAKER_03: yet um really i think if i annoy him enough and who the fuck is this nick dude
40:24
SPEAKER_00: that keeps calling me why
40:26
SPEAKER_03: the fuck is this guy keep calling me every fucking day can i get him
40:30
SPEAKER_01: to stop yes steve you can call me back and you'll be you'll get me to stop if you
40:36
SPEAKER_01: actually start doing your job and maybe put this yes or republicans have been
40:41
SPEAKER_03: the ones who have historically proposed this these legislations the ada
40:47
SPEAKER_03: the improvements to the ada
40:49
SPEAKER_01: And we can't forget to the Section 504 and the attacks coming out of Texas on that
40:54
SPEAKER_01: and how this fits in with all of those.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: So, we'll come back to that in a second once I do this final call.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: And again, guys, you can see how quick these phone calls are.
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SPEAKER_01: It took what?
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SPEAKER_01: A minute to do either one of those calls that I did before
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SPEAKER_01: and they were – yes, I got voicemails
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SPEAKER_01: but it's not going to take much longer to do it
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SPEAKER_01: assuming I get a person in this third office
41:15
SPEAKER_01: And again,
41:16
SPEAKER_01: it's the second of july i understand they may not be there but
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SPEAKER_01: if we can leave voicemails every day for them too
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SPEAKER_01: while they're gone that's six days worth of voicemails five six days worth
41:26
SPEAKER_01: of voicemails that they get
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SPEAKER_03: and they're gonna know this person keeps freaking calling me maybe i should call
41:32
SPEAKER_03: them back
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SPEAKER_00: and they will eventually they will i mean jeff crank's never called me back no steve
41:40
SPEAKER_01: hasn't called me back yet either and i hate jeff crank it's a
41:50
SPEAKER_03: hi my name is nicholas paro
41:59
SPEAKER_01: and i'm calling to strongly encourage representative womack to advocate for
42:04
SPEAKER_01: the disability community by exercising his authority
42:07
SPEAKER_01: and fulfilling his responsibilities to uphold the rule of law defend
42:11
SPEAKER_01: the constitution and oppose the overreach of the department of justice i'm concerned
42:17
SPEAKER_01: that the department of justice's recent memorandum on olmstead may enable states
42:22
SPEAKER_01: and u.s territories to cease funding community-based services
42:26
SPEAKER_01: potentially leading to resegregation and the involuntary institutionalization
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SPEAKER_01: of individuals within the disability community as a constituent
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SPEAKER_01: and as a member of the disability community myself a veteran
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SPEAKER_01: a disabled veteran i respectfully urge representative womack to formally reject
42:46
SPEAKER_01: the doj memo concerning the olmstead decision and to enshrine the olmstead decision
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SPEAKER_01: into statutory law through legislative amendments to the americans
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SPEAKER_01: with disabilities act
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SPEAKER_01: thank you very much i appreciate that you have
43:05
SPEAKER_01: a wonderful day too
43:09
SPEAKER_00: and that's it three calls it's simple as that and i spoke to a person
43:16
SPEAKER_03: that time yeah i've gotten a person every time i've called senator
43:21
SPEAKER_01: or rep womack's office so i'm hoping eventually their staffers either get to know me
43:27
SPEAKER_01: and i make that call and they're like yes we're working on it yeah and the answer to
43:34
SPEAKER_01: that is okay proved it to me that you are working on
43:39
SPEAKER_03: yeah absolutely and that's where it becomes the next step and
43:42
SPEAKER_03: as you get more comfortable making these calls you riff on the script
43:47
SPEAKER_03: a little bit you add your personal flair yes you talk to them often i've
43:54
SPEAKER_03: the last time i called senator
43:56
SPEAKER_03: or rep womack's office they asked is there anything else i can do is there anything
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SPEAKER_01: that i that you want me to do right now and my follow-up was yes please
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SPEAKER_01: pass this on i would like a call back from representative womack about this issue
44:13
SPEAKER_03: to know that he is taking my message and that he's going
44:16
SPEAKER_00: to do something i don't think that's too much to ask for uh elected representative
44:23
SPEAKER_00: to represent one of their constituents like wants and needs
44:29
SPEAKER_00: and demands you know what i mean like it's it's at
44:33
SPEAKER_00: the most basic level it's their fucking job
44:36
SPEAKER_00: like you get so many days off a year you get recesses all
44:41
SPEAKER_00: the time you get insider trading stock tips whenever you want
44:46
SPEAKER_00: to like you reap all these rewards like just do your fucking job you can disappear
44:52
SPEAKER_00: for months at a time and you don't lose your job yes dude or you can be nearly on
44:58
SPEAKER_03: that store step
45:00
SPEAKER_00: in the great beyond in hell and you could be mitch mcconnell and you're already dead
45:05
SPEAKER_01: and you still don't have to do your job is finally meeting the undertaker
45:10
SPEAKER_01: so do you think he's dead um
45:17
SPEAKER_03: well that's a that's
45:18
SPEAKER_03: a loaded question i think he's been dead enough for the last years
45:25
SPEAKER_03: that it doesn't really make much difference yeah
45:30
SPEAKER_03: but do i think he's actually passed like actually gone this time
45:37
SPEAKER_00: maybe yeah i read
45:39
SPEAKER_00: the thing that i think it was yesterday that he like two weeks they yeah
45:46
SPEAKER_00: when they found him
45:47
SPEAKER_00: for this most recent hospitalization like he was completely unconscious
45:51
SPEAKER_00: when he went like and i
45:55
SPEAKER_00: is one of the most fucked up things is that we have to like it's north korea we have
46:01
SPEAKER_00: to kind of guess and tap dance around like is he really dead because we don't know
46:07
SPEAKER_00: if we're like
46:08
SPEAKER_03: at what point would they actually tell us like kentuckians deserve better
46:15
SPEAKER_03: yeah absolutely he is they deserve better like they deserve real represent like real
46:21
SPEAKER_03: representation and and it's their choice to send who they want to to the senate as
46:28
SPEAKER_00: a state is he the is he
46:30
SPEAKER_03: the senate majority leader no that's uh thune oh okay gotcha they change he's he
46:39
SPEAKER_03: stepped down from that
46:41
SPEAKER_03: after last cycle so that john thune could take his place um
46:46
SPEAKER_03: but regardless he's yeah misuse he's unfit to hold office
46:51
SPEAKER_00: at this point yeah he's he's already unfit because he's 84 not to mention the fact
46:57
SPEAKER_00: that he fucking freezes up and goes
47:01
SPEAKER_00: and like at every press conference he's been at for like
47:05
SPEAKER_00: the last two years he has been an embarrassment not just because of like who he is
47:10
SPEAKER_03: and what he does but yeah he doesn't represent
47:13
SPEAKER_03: the state he doesn't represent his state in any way he can't like if you are in
47:21
SPEAKER_03: the hospital dying incapacitated incapacitated you cannot
47:31
SPEAKER_03: properly represent your state it's like the texas rep who was in a in a facility
47:38
SPEAKER_03: for months and nobody knew about it that's not representation it was
47:44
SPEAKER_03: for depression you should lose your job like if the rest
47:48
SPEAKER_03: of us are gonna lose our jobs for shit like that you should too yes absolutely
47:54
SPEAKER_00: a hundred percent and if you're gonna try and
47:57
SPEAKER_00: fucking institutionalized disabled people like how
48:00
SPEAKER_00: about we fucking institutionalize you
48:03
SPEAKER_00: for not doing your fucking job i just like i just i don't understand i don't
48:10
SPEAKER_00: understand how congress and elected officials have become this job where if you get
48:18
SPEAKER_00: in it's like the golden ticket to just be able to do whatever the you want
48:22
SPEAKER_00: when that's like the complete opposite of public service yeah
48:26
SPEAKER_00: like you should be held to such a higher standard and it seems
48:30
SPEAKER_00: like we've gotten to the point where they just get
48:34
SPEAKER_00: to do whatever the fuck they want. And it's like, oh yeah, then
48:37
SPEAKER_00: the American people are just reacting like, Oh, Congress did this. Congress
48:42
SPEAKER_00: did that. Like I just wrote about it in the piece that I put out for
48:46
SPEAKER_00: the 4th of July that I think that instead
48:50
SPEAKER_00: of... We've gotten into this point where instead of the people
48:55
SPEAKER_00: running the country instead of the people owning the government that
49:00
SPEAKER_00: the government we've just accepted
49:01
SPEAKER_00: the government owning us like oh yeah congress did this this happened in dc like
49:08
SPEAKER_00: and we just react to it instead of doing and i know i'm i know that
49:14
SPEAKER_00: the
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SPEAKER_00: obviously everybody that's sitting here paying attention to this is informed
49:23
SPEAKER_00: and active and
49:25
SPEAKER_00: um perform civic duties and but it takes normal people
49:33
SPEAKER_00: that aren't necessarily like actively involved to make those phone calls
49:38
SPEAKER_00: that you're making right now and if those people start doing that then it becomes
49:44
SPEAKER_00: the like these motherfuckers work
49:45
SPEAKER_00: for us like you're gonna do what we can't ignore it at some point you can't ignore
49:51
SPEAKER_00: all of it's so important like what you're doing just this
49:55
SPEAKER_00: just something as simple as making a phone call
50:00
SPEAKER_00: enough people do that and it actively puts pressure on them
50:03
SPEAKER_00: and then things start to change like the momentum starts
50:06
SPEAKER_00: to shift and I really think
50:10
SPEAKER_00: that oh Jesus Christ
50:12
SPEAKER_00: it's, it's just important. It's good man
50:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm proud of you.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: thanks brother it's the little things but they're
50:20
SPEAKER_03: the little things are big things too you know yeah they are and i told my mom this
50:26
SPEAKER_01: the other day because she's a big supporter of all the work that i'm doing
50:30
SPEAKER_01: and she put out a really really wonderful message um but i i
50:37
SPEAKER_01: and she was like i think facebook is fucking with it i i think i only got like one
50:42
SPEAKER_01: restack on or share on this post that i put out when normally i get plenty of people
50:48
SPEAKER_01: who comment or respond and i was like you know what mom one ton of sand one grain at
50:56
SPEAKER_01: a time is still a ton of sand and you're gonna get buried under that sand
51:02
SPEAKER_03: so each single person that sees that every single small step is a step forward
51:12
SPEAKER_01: so like I was like don't let it beat you down in any way because she put out
51:20
SPEAKER_01: the same message on Substack and got a lot of love for it and so it's not her it's
51:28
SPEAKER_01: the platforms trying to ensure that we don't get certain messages out
51:32
SPEAKER_01: that we don't talk about certain things and that we don't coordinate
51:37
SPEAKER_01: and come together and I think
51:41
SPEAKER_01: One of the things in all of this, too, is we have to come to become a single unit around
51:51
SPEAKER_01: this idea.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:53
SPEAKER_01: And we haveと remember that none of this is about old political lines.
52:02
SPEAKER_01: I don't care if you were a former Republican.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't care if you're a conservative Democrat or a centrist Democrat
52:09
SPEAKER_01: or a
52:11
SPEAKER_01: progressive or a if you can clearly state that humanity is not up for debate
52:21
SPEAKER_01: then we can work together and yeah i care that you give a damn you give a damn yeah
52:28
SPEAKER_03: and that matters and if we can do that we can come together like
52:32
SPEAKER_01: the first large organization media organization in the independent side
52:37
SPEAKER_01: that put any information out about olmstead
52:41
SPEAKER_03: the bulwark yeah the bulwark was the first and that is talks about that
52:48
SPEAKER_03: a lot that's tim miller and them right that's sarah longwell tim miller um
52:54
SPEAKER_01: and their group jv long i think it is i don't jvl i don't yeah i don't remember all
53:02
SPEAKER_01: the the folks over at the bulwark but i know sarah longwell and and tim miller
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SPEAKER_01: and they
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SPEAKER_03: that they put that out first they were the first of the large organizations
53:12
SPEAKER_03: to put anything out um and i give them that credit because they are being vocal
53:18
SPEAKER_03: about it and they're using that platform and it's appreciated because
53:24
SPEAKER_03: the disability community is invisible for most people like we're left out
53:30
SPEAKER_01: of all conversations yeah all of them from
53:36
SPEAKER_01: and and this is this goes across all of the other groups too is we we get left out
53:41
SPEAKER_01: of every conversation disability rights are the last rights to be spoken
53:45
SPEAKER_01: about that's why it was 1999 when the olmstead decision happened and it was 1989
53:51
SPEAKER_01: to 1990 when the ada was signed
53:56
SPEAKER_01: into law like these aren't 36 years ago i am 36 years old
54:03
SPEAKER_01: the ada was signed into law the year i was born or right before i was born like i am
54:11
SPEAKER_01: as old as the ada and that's telling yeah that's really fucking telling and
54:18
SPEAKER_01: the last time the ada was updated was 2008 or 2009 by george w bush for more rights
54:25
SPEAKER_01: and protections yes it is the regressive movement that is trying
54:30
SPEAKER_01: to take away these rights right now
54:37
SPEAKER_01: if you honestly think george w bush or george hw bush would be welcome
54:41
SPEAKER_01: in this modern regressive party i've got a bridge to sell you in fucking arizona
54:51
SPEAKER_00: or death valley i remember growing up like
54:57
SPEAKER_00: w was not a fucking centrist like no at the time it was like oh my god what
55:04
SPEAKER_00: the fuck is going on and now we're so far gone or at least republicans are
55:12
SPEAKER_00: and these regressive assholes that it's
55:16
SPEAKER_00: I think that with social media and the mainstream, like turnover of like horrible news
55:25
SPEAKER_00: that we've lost sight of just how truly bad things have gotten.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm
55:32
SPEAKER_00: And how much worse they've gotten
55:34
SPEAKER_00: How much more this fascist bullshit has been normalized
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SPEAKER_00: Like it's fucking tough to see
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SPEAKER_00: and it's tough to experience
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SPEAKER_00: And I
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SPEAKER_00: yeah we're at the point where we're doing things like wanting
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SPEAKER_00: to institutionalize disabled people and i would have never like as much bullshit
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SPEAKER_00: as w and dick cheney and then put us through i would never think that we would get
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SPEAKER_01: to this point and like that's the next big thing too to talk about in this
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SPEAKER_01: and i know we're we're all we're we're just about a at our hour so we won't be able
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SPEAKER_01: to get to talk to too much of this is
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SPEAKER_01: the next steps is this is not just about um
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SPEAKER_01: us with disabilities
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SPEAKER_01: who are clinically disabled who have like clinical disabilities for mental health
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SPEAKER_01: who have physical disabilities that are real disabilities
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SPEAKER_01: that are real disabling effects in our lives this goes beyond that
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SPEAKER_01: because they are criminalizing homelessness
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SPEAKER_01: they are turning substance and yes maybe substance abuse has components of
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SPEAKER_01: a mental disability in it
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SPEAKER_01: but we cannot criminalize substance abuse that's what they are doing last year there
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SPEAKER_03: was the proposal for the trump derangement syndrome research
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SPEAKER_03: to make trump derangement syndrome a dsm recognized disorder which would
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SPEAKER_03: allow them under the pretext of tds
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SPEAKER_00: to lock up dissenters yeah that's what i was just gonna say is like dissent becomes
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SPEAKER_00: illegal and it's and this roundabout way of fucking doing it and that would start in
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SPEAKER_03: the veteran community oh yeah the loudest
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SPEAKER_01: we tend to be the loudest at times and when you get veterans finally organized and
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SPEAKER_01: on mission together there's nothing that stops us like we are going to go to
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SPEAKER_01: the ends of the world to get this fixed but this impacts our mental health
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SPEAKER_01: and our ability to go see our providers like yeah i get all of my health care
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SPEAKER_01: through the va yeah if i go to the va for uh annual physical let's say
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SPEAKER_01: mm-hmm are they gonna lock me up when i go there yeah are they just gonna put me in
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SPEAKER_01: on a permanent grippy sock vacation
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SPEAKER_01: and never tell my spouse never tell my kids never gonna start asking fucking
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SPEAKER_00: political affiliation or like looking at that and denying you care
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SPEAKER_01: or whatever it is crazy man can we trust
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SPEAKER_01: that what we tell our mental health providers at the va
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SPEAKER_01: that it's going to stay private no and we're already used to weapon weaponized
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SPEAKER_00: against us we're already hesitant to reveal those things and to open up
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SPEAKER_00: about them anyway and you throw in a fucking trump derangement syndrome diagnosis
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SPEAKER_00: or whatever and we've got to worry about
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SPEAKER_00: that too it's it's not okay you know what i mean like it's just
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SPEAKER_00: at the most basic level it's just not okay and we deserve better we deserve
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SPEAKER_01: so much better we do and so does everybody else and then on top of it
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SPEAKER_01: the like we can't even get into this part of the conversation is
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SPEAKER_01: the section 504 piece and the impacts that it's going to have on our children
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SPEAKER_03: in school because section 504 is the 504 aspect of special education
59:29
SPEAKER_03: and disability health in schools which ended segregation
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SPEAKER_03: in students like segregation didn't end until disabled kids were allowed into
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SPEAKER_03: the classrooms yeah that like segregation didn't this is a civil right we are in
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SPEAKER_03: and i we are in our new civil rights movement that we have to codify all
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SPEAKER_01: of these rights that were either just supreme court decisions
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SPEAKER_03: or are loosely enforced they need to be codified fully
1:00:03
SPEAKER_01: and yeah the nazis learned from the u.s we we love to talk about this under the
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: the terminology of the nazis did this the nazis did that that is a way for us
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SPEAKER_03: in america to feel better about ourselves because we exported fascism to
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SPEAKER_03: the nazis yes it was not called fascism at the time yes we exported those values
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SPEAKER_00: i was just watching a documentary on fdr last night and it had those components
1:00:40
SPEAKER_00: of like the rise of anti-semitism and everything in the united states
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SPEAKER_00: and how it carried over and charles lindberg was it that was the that was what
1:00:51
SPEAKER_00: the america first movement like originally started as like we hear it
1:00:55
SPEAKER_00: a lot today america first america first like that has that's
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SPEAKER_00: rooted in fascism and it's
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: rooted in hatred towards others
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SPEAKER_00: and that's what
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SPEAKER_00: Hitler and them studied
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SPEAKER_00: and were like oh we can use this
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SPEAKER_00: and
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SPEAKER_03: they modeled their behavior off of
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SPEAKER_03: the confederacy
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SPEAKER_00: and we never want to think that
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SPEAKER_00: like
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SPEAKER_00: we never want to think that it's us but it is and a lot of
1:01:22
SPEAKER_00: the times it has been us it's just had this shiny veneer over it
1:01:27
SPEAKER_00: that we tell ourselves the american way or like we're the good guys
1:01:32
SPEAKER_00: and like we have done shitty things for a long time and i think that we need
1:01:40
SPEAKER_00: to we need to fucking fix ourselves for once
1:01:46
SPEAKER_01: let's fix our own house before we start criticizing everybody else's
1:01:49
SPEAKER_01: because yes you shouldn't throw rocks in a glass house eventually it's going
1:01:53
SPEAKER_01: to break um and we're seeing the cracks in our glass house right now come come apart
1:02:00
SPEAKER_01: and pains are falling down and you know what that's okay it's long overdue
1:02:05
SPEAKER_01: that we evaluate ourselves
1:02:07
SPEAKER_01: because how are you going to grow
1:02:09
SPEAKER_01: how are we going to learn if you don't ever look
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SPEAKER_01: inwards
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SPEAKER_00: um
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SPEAKER_00: yeah
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SPEAKER_00: that's the only way that you can um it's the only way you can do it and that's
1:02:20
SPEAKER_00: the only way that we can lead from the front and truly be like a great nation is
1:02:25
SPEAKER_00: if we take care of those things ourselves you know and i think that through
1:02:33
SPEAKER_00: the small work and everything through people especially like yourself
1:02:37
SPEAKER_00: that we are doing it and i think we're going to be okay i really do
1:02:42
SPEAKER_01: i think we are and i think the more that we continue to come together on this
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SPEAKER_01: and shed our old political identities um and shed the old liberalism
1:02:55
SPEAKER_01: and conservatism because to conserve something you have to be willing to allow it
1:03:02
SPEAKER_01: to grow and change conservation requires growth
1:03:09
SPEAKER_01: conservation requires pruning the things that don't work or are dying or are dead on
1:03:15
SPEAKER_01: a plant or in a forest forest fires are there for a reason forest fires happen
1:03:21
SPEAKER_03: in areas for a reason california oaks do not grow or reseed
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SPEAKER_01: without their seed pods first being burnt so we have to be willing
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SPEAKER_03: to accept that this is past old political ideologies it is not about um conservative
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SPEAKER_01: or liberal this is progress first regression yeah i'm not gonna regress
1:03:49
SPEAKER_01: in my rights i'm not gonna regress
1:03:51
SPEAKER_01: for my children's rights we've already regressed enough
1:03:55
SPEAKER_01: in my children's rights my daughter has less rights now than she did
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SPEAKER_01: when she was born um yeah which is crazy yeah
1:04:04
SPEAKER_01: and so we need to fight all of this together and we need to stop arguing
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SPEAKER_01: over stupid shit and when the leaders in the space ask you to do something
1:04:17
SPEAKER_01: or encourage you to do something follow their lead and i say this as someone
1:04:23
SPEAKER_01: who has now been told that we that naida and myself and the disability community
1:04:29
SPEAKER_01: for democracy are leading this space right now
1:04:33
SPEAKER_01: for the say no to crip crow and the ability to protect our our rights
1:04:39
SPEAKER_01: so let's do it together i also put up a new qr code over evan's head um
1:04:45
SPEAKER_01: which is actually our say no to crip crow t-shirt on the sick
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SPEAKER_01: of this shit publications webpage
1:04:52
SPEAKER_01: All of the revenue from the sales for these t-shirts are going to go
1:04:59
SPEAKER_01: to the disability community for democracy and to the advocacy
1:05:03
SPEAKER_01: that they're doing in the work that they'm doing.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_01: That's the least I can do to help grow that organization
1:05:12
SPEAKER_01: and grow the work they're working on,
1:05:15
SPEAKER_01: and grow their visibility.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you can please go order yourself a T-shirt
1:05:20
SPEAKER_03: it's gonna catch people's eyes
1:05:22
SPEAKER_03: it's not a it's people are gonna ask whoa they're gonna get a visceral response
1:05:27
SPEAKER_00: from it and that's the point yeah and it's not just the like it is
1:05:33
SPEAKER_00: the monetary support and everything because that's getting donated but it's also
1:05:40
SPEAKER_00: when you have when you just wear a t-shirt out
1:05:43
SPEAKER_00: in public people are gonna pay attention somebody's gonna see you
1:05:46
SPEAKER_00: and maybe somebody else asks or like recognizes it and then it just
1:05:52
SPEAKER_00: grows it step by step by step and there's the support
1:05:55
SPEAKER_00: that way too it's really it's really important and i'm definitely right
1:06:00
SPEAKER_00: after this i'm going to get on there and order one while you're at it get yourself
1:06:04
SPEAKER_01: a just suck less water bottle too yeah dude i know i have i think i have the hoodie
1:06:09
SPEAKER_03: in the other room i know you do you've got some of the merch already so i love it
1:06:14
SPEAKER_00: but yeah i need i do need a new water bottle too it's a good one yeah
1:06:19
SPEAKER_00: i love the pictures that you put up with it it's so funny it's
1:06:24
SPEAKER_03: a good hefty water bottle too it's also tsa compliant i flew with it um
1:06:30
SPEAKER_03: to dc this weekend and back um and so it is tsa compliant the t-shirts um
1:06:36
SPEAKER_03: the t-shirts work they they start conversations it's a conversation center i live
1:06:41
SPEAKER_03: in arkansas do you think people ask me about this shirt if i go out or
1:06:48
SPEAKER_03: i get comments on my shirts when i because i have one that says when one member of
1:06:52
SPEAKER_03: the party is attacked we all roll for initiative with d20 dice of
1:06:56
SPEAKER_03: the different pride communities like lgbtq plus communities like yes you're damn
1:07:02
SPEAKER_03: right i get a conversation out of it and that's the point and then
1:07:06
SPEAKER_01: that person goes home and talks about it because most people don't know
1:07:11
SPEAKER_01: that disability rights right now especially are under such threat yes
1:07:17
SPEAKER_03: and you have to educate them it is your responsibility to educate those around you
1:07:23
SPEAKER_03: about this issue and so please do that it's not a plastic water bottle it's
1:07:28
SPEAKER_03: a metal water bottle it is a sippy cup metal water bottle it does have
1:07:33
SPEAKER_01: a plastic lid yes but i can't control that so i i can't do too much about that
1:07:39
SPEAKER_01: if we can do other things um we will but for for us
1:07:44
SPEAKER_01: um please come buy a t-shirt come buy some other stuff while you're there and
1:07:48
SPEAKER_01: then evan let's do this for ourselves yeah man promote each other promote ourselves
1:07:57
SPEAKER_01: in the work we're doing and
1:07:58
SPEAKER_01: before evan promotes himself i'ma promote evan real quick because
1:08:02
SPEAKER_01: if y'all haven't gone and listened and read through any of his articles recently
1:08:09
SPEAKER_01: especially let's say in the last two ish months for no particular reason but in
1:08:14
SPEAKER_03: the last two ish months he has unlocked his creative potential he is letting himself
1:08:24
SPEAKER_01: be evan and write like evan and the articles are incredible um
1:08:33
SPEAKER_01: the amazing writing he's putting out the advocacy the
1:08:39
SPEAKER_01: your fiction work that you're doing is incredible just your written pieces
1:08:45
SPEAKER_01: the last one you did on the John Cena interview
1:08:48
SPEAKER_01: which is actually why I titled it let's talk about it today we never got to talk
1:08:52
SPEAKER_01: about it today so I want to talk about it next week if we can but like it's
1:08:58
SPEAKER_01: so powerful like so powerful and it's so important I appreciate you man Evan keep up
1:09:03
SPEAKER_01: the incredible work my friend like you're so amazing dude and I love all the stuff
1:09:08
SPEAKER_01: that you're putting out
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SPEAKER_01: you're the best man um i what am i supposed to say
1:09:13
SPEAKER_00: after like i can't even hype myself up that good but yeah just if you guys go
1:09:20
SPEAKER_00: over there and become a paid subscriber
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SPEAKER_00: a regular subscriber anything it just allows me
1:09:27
SPEAKER_00: to um just focus more do more work be more of myself
1:09:33
SPEAKER_00: and um yeah i i appreciate you man like
1:09:38
SPEAKER_00: i can't put it any better
1:09:40
SPEAKER_00: than what nick already said i've never felt more like me i've never had this much
1:09:46
SPEAKER_00: clarity going into the writing and stuff so yeah if you guys get a chance just go
1:09:50
SPEAKER_00: over and subscribe to news
1:09:51
SPEAKER_00: from underground um i would greatly appreciate it i'm just oh it's
1:09:57
SPEAKER_00: a one person operation i'm just a regular disabled veteran trying to do my thing
1:10:02
SPEAKER_00: and use my voice to make somewhat of a difference in this world and
1:10:08
SPEAKER_02: yeah i'd really appreciate it i appreciate you
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SPEAKER_02: really do
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SPEAKER_02: and everybody go subscribe
1:10:17
SPEAKER_00: to nick he is i do a lot more writing and stuff but nick is out there front
1:10:24
SPEAKER_00: and center and he's killing it and these interviews and i and i just think that just
1:10:33
SPEAKER_00: the interview is like
1:10:37
SPEAKER_00: such the stamp of everything that you've been working towards and everything
1:10:43
SPEAKER_00: that you're achieving right now it's just great to see thanks man I appreciate
1:10:49
SPEAKER_01: that I appreciate the support there I'm always I am I found my voice and I'm proud
1:10:57
SPEAKER_01: to be doing the work that I'm doing and I'm proud to be supporting the groups
1:11:05
SPEAKER_01: that I am and
1:11:07
SPEAKER_01: for democracy and all of the work that we're doing please come support sick of this shit
1:11:13
SPEAKER_03: publications if you can um we're going to 50 off forever sale right now
1:11:17
SPEAKER_03: we've got two days left on the sale it's our one week
1:11:21
SPEAKER_01: one year when i lost my job at my my last job and i was sort of set free
1:11:26
SPEAKER_01: um and i found my voice so
1:11:30
SPEAKER_01: to now
1:11:31
SPEAKER_01: yeah man
1:11:32
SPEAKER_02: it's been a year
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SPEAKER_03: and it's
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SPEAKER_03: incredible
1:11:37
SPEAKER_01: and so thank you everyone for being here thank you
1:11:39
SPEAKER_01: for joining us today let's do this together let's support each other let's grow
1:11:45
SPEAKER_01: together let's find a way to push through all of this bullshit
1:11:51
SPEAKER_03: and let's just suck less you know what i'm saying suck less just suck less y'all
1:11:57
SPEAKER_03: because we're done being sick of this shit
1:11:59
SPEAKER_03: Walter, all of us
1:12:01
SPEAKER_03: everyone in the chat
1:12:01
SPEAKER_03: we'll see you all next week
1:12:03
SPEAKER_03: have a great weekend
1:12:04
SPEAKER_03: try to go out and enjoy
1:12:07
SPEAKER_03: the 4th of July
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SPEAKER_03: in whatever way you can
1:12:09
SPEAKER_03: it does not necessarily mean
1:12:13
SPEAKER_03: fireworks and parades
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SPEAKER_03: and barbecues
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SPEAKER_03: find a way
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SPEAKER_03: to find joy in it
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SPEAKER_03: for yourself
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SPEAKER_03: because we are fighting
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SPEAKER_03: for something
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SPEAKER_03: and that something is us
1:12:31
SPEAKER_03: is us that is the the e pluribus unum of america that is what we can and must become
1:12:40
SPEAKER_01: and so go celebrate what you can together with each other so
1:12:44
SPEAKER_01: that we can grow this community as a whole so thanks everyone thanks evan