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The Orange Doesn't Fall Far: Psychic Medium Scott Cruz · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of The Orange
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't Fall Far. Today we have a special guest, Scott Cruz.
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  Speaker 1: He is a world-renowned psychic medium and a spiritual mentor.
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  Speaker 1: His first public appearance on The Real Housewives of Orange
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  Speaker 1: County featured a breakthrough prediction that shocked the series and
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  Speaker 1: actually came true with these five words, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: see it. When asked if Brooks had cancer, let's bring
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  Speaker 1: Scott Cruz in.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Scott, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm burnt. I'm sunburnt. Can't you see? You don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I have like red nose and yeah, I got burnt.
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  Speaker 1: A little crispy there.
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  Speaker 2: A little crispy. I'm usually pretty crispy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But not crunchy. Definitely not crunchy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Scott, we talked about, you know, you, your big
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  Speaker 1: prediction on Housewives. How, I mean, how long ago was that?
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  Speaker 1: 10 years?
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  Speaker 2: No, that was like, wasn't it 2015 or something? Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was like 2014, 2015.
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  Speaker 1: 12 years ago. Yeah, that was a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: So with those five words, I just don't see it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: Did you know you were going to shake things up
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  Speaker 3: that hard when you said that?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. You know, Tamara wanted me to go on.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know. Like, that's sensationalized shit
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  Speaker 2: for me. But she kind of convinced me it'll be fun. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was dealing with people who had cancer
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  Speaker 2: at that time. And not to be, like, getting into
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  Speaker 2: this whole thing. But, yeah, I lost a best friend
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  Speaker 2: to brain cancer. My uncle was going through cancer. Sister
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  Speaker 2: had breast cancer.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of cancer going on. So, of course,
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  Speaker 2: when I saw like deception, I just couldn't hold back
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  Speaker 2: on that. But, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get any backlash from Brooks or Vicky at
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  Speaker 1: that time?
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  Speaker 2: No, only Vicky called me. But Brooks, no. There was
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  Speaker 2: like some blog that someone, I think, tagged me and
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  Speaker 2: him on and he just avoided me. So I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: don't know the guy. It's all good. Um, but Vicky
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  Speaker 2: called and she was like, this is gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: big deal. You know, your reputation, my reputation. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you get paid for this. I didn't get paid for this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm here with the anxiety and put myself out there
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  Speaker 2: to begin with. I said, you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I believe in the psychic thing. She says, I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's you. That's kind of discounting me. And so, um,
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  Speaker 2: and she wanted me to film and I said, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, she wanted you to film.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, what are you doing now? Where,
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  Speaker 1: what have you been doing for the past 12 years?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've been doing this work professionally for 14 years. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I've been dealing with a lot of clients.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the show boosts my clientele, but I've been
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  Speaker 2: diving deep in spiritual communities, working with astrologers, been on
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  Speaker 2: a couple podcasts, doing a lot of that work, speaking,
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  Speaker 2: doing a lot of motivational speaking, doing presentations and. Working
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  Speaker 2: on my music as well. So yeah, things are pretty busy.
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  Speaker 2: Still doing my stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott's a musician as well. I didn't know that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you have your own. Did you have a new music
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  Speaker 1: video that came out recently?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Save the Future. Yeah, I did it all myself.
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  Speaker 2: All the music is myself. So maybe Sophia and I
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  Speaker 2: can actually chat about, yeah, do a collab or something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I used to compose for TV and film before,
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  Speaker 2: doing my spiritual work. So music has always been my thing.
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  Speaker 1: When did you realize, or you first realized that you
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  Speaker 1: had this gift?
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  Speaker 3: Six.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. I was seeing dead people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably tough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get into you because I know you have
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  Speaker 2: some abilities too, Sophia. So we'll get into what your
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  Speaker 2: abilities may lie. Yes. But yeah, six years old, I
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  Speaker 2: started seeing dead people apparitions. And what I, of course,
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  Speaker 2: know is residual energy now. But I had a poltergeist
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  Speaker 2: in the house. Things are moving. Wheel control cars are moving.
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  Speaker 2: Doors are shaking. So I've come from an Italian Puerto
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  Speaker 2: Rican household. You just don't talk about those things. You
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  Speaker 2: move on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, so for a while and then I was predicting
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  Speaker 2: things and, you know, so I just, as I got older,
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  Speaker 2: I just got very interested in this space, you know,
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  Speaker 2: decided to do something with it. And so, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, when did you, when you were a kid, did
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  Speaker 3: everything about it just seem like, oh, this is just
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  Speaker 3: how life is. Or was there a moment where you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is not normal.
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  Speaker 2: Good question, because that's actually very psychic of you to
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  Speaker 2: ask me that, because I thought everybody else is crazy
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  Speaker 2: for not seeing what I was seeing. So yeah, for me,
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  Speaker 2: it was a normal, but then I wanted to understand,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like part of my soul knew, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that what, what it was and other people wouldn't. So
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to be able to use it for,
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  Speaker 2: for good, you know, and do it in a way
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  Speaker 2: that would be productive for me and for other people.
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  Speaker 2: And now at 44, I want to be a productive
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  Speaker 2: member of society and helping people to become better version
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  Speaker 2: of themselves. And so, I'm very dedicated my work to mentorship,
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  Speaker 2: you know, offline. So I'm just starting now with online stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the past two, three years working on the online stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So did your family believe you when you told.
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  Speaker 2: Them they seen it, they've experienced it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So when things are moving in the house, they were
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  Speaker 2: a witness to those things too. And so, yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: our whole family really was been a privy to that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and they always knew there was something more
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  Speaker 2: about me predicting things and, and seeing things that ended
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  Speaker 2: up becoming true. So, and thankfully they supported it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. You know, becoming especially like a public
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  Speaker 3: person who's doing things with, you know, spirituality and being
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  Speaker 3: a medium. Is there a lot of misconceptions that people
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  Speaker 3: have about you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Again, great question. Yeah, because it's, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're held up to a lot of scrutiny. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: one that needs like all the clicks and likes, so
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  Speaker 2: I don't really push social media, but I definitely want
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  Speaker 2: to be an outlet for my clients and, But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of scrutiny, especially with the religious people.
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  Speaker 2: But I've dealt with that for a lot, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as far as the contradictions of that and being an
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  Speaker 2: ex-former Christian, you know, I kind of know how to
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  Speaker 2: handle those things. But for now, it's just been a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people very curious. A lot of people who,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe have had experiences or abilities, but don't
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  Speaker 2: have outlets to figure out how to expand it so
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  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of those people coming in that
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  Speaker 2: regard who need some sort of an outlet to explore
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  Speaker 2: so and i think people are becoming more you know
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  Speaker 2: aware of their own abilities intuition psychics and it's becoming
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  Speaker 2: more of a new norm astrology you know definitely so.
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  Speaker 1: What about people and i want to say a lot
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  Speaker 1: of religious people um say it's evil it's satan and
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  Speaker 1: things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would say, well, who's to say that those
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  Speaker 2: who are channeling the word of God were not evil?
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  Speaker 2: And who's to say the prophets were not channeling the
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  Speaker 2: word versus psychics? Because I think prophets and psychics are
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  Speaker 2: pretty much the same thing. We're forecasting, and the form
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  Speaker 2: of mediumship is channeling spirit. So how can we be
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  Speaker 2: soul and spirit ourselves but not have access to that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like who's determined that what
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  Speaker 2: is coming from God, it was not coming from God,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you're utilizing this information that we all have
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  Speaker 2: access to, you know, we have all the access to intuition.
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  Speaker 2: Who's to say, Oh, that's evil. That's not, that's a
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  Speaker 2: very restrictive mindset when God is very omnipresent, very expansive.
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  Speaker 2: So I always challenge that idea who determines that. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I mean, especially when the information I
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  Speaker 2: challenge to help people become more of themselves and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: healing of trauma and all that wonderful stuff. And, I
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  Speaker 2: can only say that that comes from a positive place,
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  Speaker 2: a loving place, not a place of, I'm not a,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, Tamara, I'm not a sensationalist. Especially after
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  Speaker 2: being on that show, I never broadcast it. I just
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  Speaker 2: started now including it in my reels, but I never
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  Speaker 2: really tried to bank on that either. But so I
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  Speaker 2: always tell people who determines that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. Have you ever had spirits
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  Speaker 3: just show up when you're off the clock?
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think that Sophia, I feel like you're
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  Speaker 2: going to experience more of this as you get a
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  Speaker 2: little older. So just FYI, because I do feel like
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  Speaker 2: you have an open channel and you have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of empathy and that empathy will turn into psychic ability
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  Speaker 2: and mediumship too, which you will be sensing spirit around you.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you find more of your momentum, you
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  Speaker 2: will feel more of that energy. I promise you. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't until probably my mid to late twenties where
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  Speaker 2: I could not I couldn't go out somewhere without giving
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  Speaker 2: people messages. I'm like, Oh my God, their, their, their
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  Speaker 2: loved one is here or their so-and-so is here. And
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  Speaker 2: they all would break down and crying. Cause I'd give
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  Speaker 2: a specific one information. And then it was like all
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  Speaker 2: the time. And then I realized, you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: too cumbersome to like live like this. Like it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of turned off.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to help everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. And it's like, I'm not, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be played telephone all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I have a question. Why do certain numbers keep
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  Speaker 1: appearing in certain people's lives? Like one, one, one is
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  Speaker 1: always our one, one, one, one. So much so that
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  Speaker 1: I had a tattoo with a lot of people have
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  Speaker 1: this tattoo on. I put it on my wrist. Is
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  Speaker 1: that a sign or is that just.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch of shit? It could be both. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: It's 111 right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's 111.
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  Speaker 2: See that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: I literally have chills right now. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Well, everyone has different meanings for that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: For you specifically, the 111s connect with your grandmother. Remember
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  Speaker 2: the grandmother always interrupts our conversations?
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  Speaker 1: Clarabelle. Clarabelle. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She's the one when one's for you, right? And so,
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  Speaker 2: but there's different, everyone has different associations, but usually 11-11s
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  Speaker 2: means that you're at the right place at the right time.
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  Speaker 2: Please follow your intuition. You know, the fours is always,
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  Speaker 2: you know, spirits connecting spirit guides. Threes are about you
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  Speaker 2: finding higher purpose, higher meaning. You know, two is about duality,
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  Speaker 2: finding the essence of duality within yourself. So I always
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  Speaker 2: say it's important to understand, you know, when you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: these numbers and the state of being you're in, but
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  Speaker 2: those are kind of universal. You know, nines are all
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  Speaker 2: about mastery. Elevens are also mastery too, right? But I
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  Speaker 2: feel like the ones is always your grandmother.
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  Speaker 1: That is insane that I asked you that question.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I looked at one.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: One 11. That is just crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Is it insane? Or is it just in sync?
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Good point. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. All right.
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  Speaker 3: I have a question for you that interests me a lot.
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  Speaker 3: When it comes down to dreams, do they carry messages
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  Speaker 3: from people who've passed?
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  Speaker 2: They can. So there's different layers of dreams. For example,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it could be your subconscious manifest of
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  Speaker 2: things that perhaps you're fearing that are coming to realization
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  Speaker 2: to address. A lot of it could be things you
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  Speaker 2: are suppressing. Like, for example, if you're having a dream
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  Speaker 2: about like. you know, doing something amazing, but then it fails.
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  Speaker 2: And that's more of a representation that you're being suppressed
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  Speaker 2: of things that you should move forward on. And it
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  Speaker 2: could be symbologies of say your grandmother, your great grandmother
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  Speaker 2: coming through as being a resource for you. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so there's so many different layers of that, depending on
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  Speaker 2: the dream. I always say to decipher, focus on the
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  Speaker 2: essence of the dream, less of the specifics. And you
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  Speaker 2: might feel like, you know, it feels like a guide
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  Speaker 2: or it feels like a, you know, loved one in
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  Speaker 2: spirit or, you know, it's actually a fear. It's manifest
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  Speaker 2: that I need to like, move forward on. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so many different dynamics. I think particularly for you, I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of your dreams are more predictive and clairvoyant.
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  Speaker 2: And you get this from your mom, because Tamara is
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  Speaker 2: very intuitive. I always tell the time Tamara, like she
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  Speaker 2: sees things and like Tamara followed intuition.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my grandma, you know, she would they said she
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  Speaker 1: was psychic. And her and I were super close. And
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  Speaker 1: she passed away when I was I, um, maybe middle school, early,
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  Speaker 1: you know, eighties, she, she passed away. And, um, that
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  Speaker 1: was a really hard one on me cause we were
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  Speaker 1: super close, but she could predict like one day my
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  Speaker 1: mom said, um, her, my dad's mom came to the
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  Speaker 1: front door. Somebody came to the front door and she said,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, did your dad die? And he had
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  Speaker 1: just been in a car accident.
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  Speaker 2: He died.
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  Speaker 1: So she would always pick up.
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  Speaker 2: She was also schizophrenic. Well, see, that's the thing. That's
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  Speaker 2: what happens when people are, when that's not embraced, then
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  Speaker 2: people tend to like blur the lines of spirit in themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And then they don't have the support. Then yeah, they'll
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  Speaker 2: borderline schizophrenia because they're getting like messages from spirit. Then
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  Speaker 2: they can't decipher from their own voice. Right. And so
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people back in the day, they would
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  Speaker 2: just be thrown into a mental hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. When I was born, she was in a mental
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  Speaker 1: hospital and they were doing shock treatment on her.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: At the time.
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  Speaker 2: Like MKUltra stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But that's because she had, obviously she had abilities. And
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  Speaker 2: back then, I think a lot of times to be
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  Speaker 2: conspiratorial about it, I think back then they just didn't
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  Speaker 2: want that to be present. Because a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: would find a lot of secrets if we all tapped
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  Speaker 2: into our intuition. We'd see through things. We'd have discernment
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  Speaker 2: and we wouldn't be bound by political things or cultural things.
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  Speaker 2: And we make change. And so I think they suppressed
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  Speaker 2: it a lot then. You know, and that makes sense
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  Speaker 2: why your grandma comes to me a lot when I
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  Speaker 2: speak with you or we had readings together. Like she'd
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  Speaker 2: always be like kind of a dominant force with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's talk about pets. So Shannon last year got
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  Speaker 1: a second dog because she went to a pet psychic
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  Speaker 1: and her dog was telling her that he wants a
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  Speaker 1: brother or sister right and then it happens that she
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  Speaker 1: gets one right and the other dog Archie doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: like the new dog but then Archie develops cancer and
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  Speaker 1: passes away now do you get I mean visits from
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  Speaker 1: pets um do you hear that do you do you
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  Speaker 1: hear anything from our dog Bronx.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I mean I think you know I actually think
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  Speaker 2: the you know the I think that Bronx knew that
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  Speaker 2: animals know prior to their passing when they pass that
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  Speaker 2: there was going to be a passing or cancer experience
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  Speaker 2: because it feels like because of breeding issues, there was
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  Speaker 2: this issue with cancer. So it was unpreventable. And I really.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like he had cancer several times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it feels like because of breeding, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: of bad breeding of the of the animal, which is
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  Speaker 2: why he had cancer, not just because the cancer happened.
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  Speaker 2: So it was unpreventable. Nothing could have been done. But
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  Speaker 2: I think at the same time, it was not so
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  Speaker 2: much the psychic saying Bronx need a brother or sister.
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  Speaker 2: It was Bronx saying you need a dog to bridge
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  Speaker 2: my passing. Yeah. So I really feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Shannon having a dog to bridge that would have been
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  Speaker 2: easier on her to cope with Bronx passing this way.
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  Speaker 2: She wouldn't have been alone.
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  Speaker 1: So that's her dog is Archie. My dog was Bronx.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Archie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, so Archie. So I feel that was more of
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  Speaker 2: her bridging, you know, like the animal saying, get another dog.
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  Speaker 2: So when I pass as a bridging, you're not alone.
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  Speaker 1: She thinks it is. Yeah. But we had, we had
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  Speaker 1: our dog Bronx pass away maybe like four years ago
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  Speaker 1: and And it was hard because we had him for
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: so long. And then we waited a whole year. Then
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: we got our new dog, which is the same breed,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: but we made sure we got like a different color.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't too weird. So he's a blue nose
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: pit bull and he is really like turning into our
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: old dog.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: He's turning into Bronx. It's his personality is completely.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the breed or what.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I was going to say it has a similar energy,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: like soul energy. So it just might be a reincarnation
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: of such. You know, and I've also seen dogs who
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: maybe overlapped and they will do a hop in a
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: walk in, in a sense, because because I'm like reading
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: the two Bronx and this new dog, it feels like
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: the same consciousness in a sense. And so it does.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: When he's hanging around.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: It feels like Bronx. Same energy.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: It feels like the same consciousness.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Let's take it back because you and I have known
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: each other for a very long time. The same person
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: that introduced me to Eddie introduced me to you. And
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that's Marcos.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, Marcos Polo.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Marcos Polo. Yeah, he's the bridge. I love it. I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: remember way back when I would, you know, we would
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: talk on the phone a lot and you would give me,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I was going through divorce, all these things. My kids
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: were little. You would always be there for me and
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: talk to me and tell me things. Now, I remember,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, over 10 years ago, you told me that Sophia,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: and she was little at the time, was going to
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: go into fashion and move to New York City. And
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that's what you saw for her.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: That's so cool. I mean, I still do. I know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: you know, the music thing I always say, she always
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: will do music, but it's something about the visual aesthetics
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: that really Sophia is going to really hit on, you know,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: the most. And creating, designing, of course, but integrating, I
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: heard new trends, new styles as well.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: And kind of, I heard the word cutting edge too.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: So I think a lot of what you'd be doing
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Sophia in the fashion world will be less fashion. Yes,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: but more connecting emotion with fashion, if that makes any sense.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Like making the expression more emotional and more representational about
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: what it really should be. So to me, it's like
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: there's a game changer that you're, I would say, intended to.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: It's almost like a divine purpose to bring some sort
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: of shift and change to this avenue, especially for those
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: at a younger age in your age realm as well.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And not where it's cliche.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Because I can't stand cliches. But you will definitely hop
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: back in the music scene as far as even if
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you're even designing or bringing style for a music video
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: as well. So the music avenue is not going to
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: leave at all.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: So they're saying to make sure you're really open with
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: collabs too. I actually see your current boyfriend actually working
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: hand in hand with you in the fashion world too.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Which is really odd.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: You have no idea. You have no idea.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: You have no idea. So my boyfriend is very into
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: fashion as well. And that's something we've kind of both
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: bonded on.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: And with the whole emotional and visual comment you made,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: that is so accurate. Even with my music, the visuals,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: people have told me like, your visuals are great. Like
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: you always put a lot of effort into the whole
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: visual aesthetic.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: With fashion, I like it more from like an art perspective,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: less of something just conventional, but more of like, I
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: just like crazy silhouettes and things like that. So that's insane.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: That you would say that. Your mom did not tell
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: me that, by the way, just so you know.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't even know that.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. That's crazy.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: But another thing too, because I was showing him like sketching,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you know, on a sketchbook and, you know, even creating
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the designs or creating the silhouettes as well, but also
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: having an impact as well with even men's fashion and
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: women's fashion. And they were also saying something about him
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: really understanding about androgyny. Right. And kind of blurring the
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: lines of that too. Cause I really feel like.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: What's androgyny mean? That is so insane. I don't know
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: what it means.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Androgyny is like a mix between masculine and feminine. It's
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: like a balance between like, you know, like a model.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: It's very editorial.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: That's insane because I was just talking about this with
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Nico androgyny. We were talking about fashion and I was
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: telling him about how I love androgyny and fashion. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I've always said that. I've always said that I love
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the intersection between the masculine and the feminine. Yeah.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: But he's going to do it in a way that's
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: really kind of, From my day, we'd say very punk, right?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: So like really like really hits home on that. And so,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: but I definitely see the collab with you and he,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: but also with others as well. And the music is always,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: will be around. Yeah. You know, I just like to
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: be so engaged and your hands will be so hands
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: on to the fashion and the integration with that, that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: you're going to find a true passion for that. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: think the music is there to get your voice out too.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: but you're a hands-on type of girl in a sense
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: and the expression of such. But I definitely see a
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: lot of travel, you know, as well in conjunction to,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: you know, as well. And I think that the current
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: partner that you have, the boyfriend that you had, feels
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: very long-term for me. Yeah, it feels very long-term. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: think that's one thing I did tell Tam about. I said, no,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it feels very long-term. I think that, you know, he
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: feels emotionally suppressed sometimes. I think a lot what he's
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: gone through, I feel like his emotions have been trampled on. So,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and so he, I mean, he might always maybe walk
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: around constantly like, I'm sorry, like always apologizing for little things,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you know, but, but I feel like just because the
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: emotions of himself, once he learns how to fully express that,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and to me, it's more about the appreciation you know
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: um and this is one thing i did talk to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: tamra about about camera being like a great buffer for
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: mother nurturing energy and you know the welcoming energy that
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: tamra has has brought with him is is really going
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to be hugely effective for him in a positive way
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: So so I think that him being comfortable with the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: consistency of like appreciation and and compassion, I think that's
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: going to make him really roar, I would say, and thrive,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: you know, in that sense.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just celebrated their one year together. Thank you.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And it's Sophia's. pretty much your very first boyfriend. Like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: she had little high school boyfriends, but no, not, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: nothing serious. And they are just so cute together.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You guys really compliment each other very well. I don't
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: know why. I think you probably understand the misfits energy.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And does that make sense? Like kind of be like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a misfit, but like, you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: kind of doing your own thing. And so I think
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that's going to have you guys excel is that you companionship.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I love the dynamic.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: So I love going to like thrift stores and antique
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: stores and things. And I especially love collecting old paintings
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: and old dolls and stuff. Do you think that energies
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: can like residual energies can be in items like that?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Cause I love your questions. For example, I went to.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: The thrift store the other day and I saw this
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: beautiful doll and it was an antique doll and she
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: had this beautiful polka dot dress on. And I just
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: saw her and I was like, I can't, I can't
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: be buying more dolls. I have so many dolls, so
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: many antique dolls. I went around the store and I went, Nope,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I need her. Like, there's just something I'm like, I
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: can't leave her here. And I bought her and I
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: told Nico and he was like, you gotta be careful.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You gotta be really careful.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I know, but it's just something, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: don't know if it was, I didn't necessarily think it
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: was like a spiritual thing at the time. It was
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: more just like, I just feel like drawn to get
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: this doll. But that happens to me a lot with items.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Like I'll see a painting or something. And I'm just like,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: there's just something telling me I need to bring this home.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: There's three things to this. One, well, so yes, there
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: is residual energies on things, but we have so much
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: dominion over that. We don't have to be scared about it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: We can reprogram things. And so I think you have
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the ability to touch the reprogram and you basically quote
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: unquote cleanse the energy, right? So yes, you can definitely
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: do that. I was also feeling you're connecting with a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: lot of things from your past incarnations.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: So especially ancient, you know, like old or vintage stuff
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: perhaps was once yours in a past lifetime. I know
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: it sounds crazy, but I think that you are associating
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: with certain data from past incarnations. So I would try
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to see what feelings these things evoke within you, because
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it's not just about that. You actually are being attracted
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to the energy attached to these things. And so, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: perhaps like even the person who held it resonates with
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: similar energy. So you are getting downloads from these objects.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: So I would just ask the questions when you are
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: put your hand over and say, what am I reading
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: from this? Because at the end of the day, it's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: just data. Everything has data on it. Right. And so
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you can encode the data. So I wouldn't necessarily worry about,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you know, really if something's not allowed to enter your home,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: it won't. I think you have that protection.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I've never been necessarily worried. I mean, even when I
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: was talking to Nico, it was never, I've never brought
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: something home. And even if I thought I had like
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: an inkling that there's something lingering or whatever, I've always,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I've said this to Nico, like if there is a
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: spirit or something, I'm not concerned. I'm don't, They've been
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: very polite. If there is like nothing, I don't know.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not really worried.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Cause you're in, cause you're in tune. You like, so
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, you know, like, you'll know, like when you
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: grab to some, you know, I like this energy. Like
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you already are in tune to that. That's why to
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: get yourself more conscious to that. You'll be more understanding
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: of the exact reasons why, you know, but again, Tamara,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I've told you, you have abilities and obviously you got
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: it from your, your grandmother. And, and so your mom
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: just kind of suppressed that for a while to keep
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: it safe. But your mom still has abilities too, but
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I think that she's kept it safe a little bit
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: in that regard. But you all, from the maternal side,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: have that intuitive psychic energy.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, anything you want to tell me, Scott? I know
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: we talked last week or so. The last time I
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: was in Big Bar, yeah, we were going back and forth.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But I don't even want to ask you any questions.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I just want to know, what do you see? Is
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: this a new.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Phase in my life?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: What is going on with me?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Well, obviously, you know, you've been, I'm just going to,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: can I speak for you too for a minute? Because,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I just tell people, people always now and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: then come and like, is Tamara like this? I'm like,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Tamara's a hustler. Tamara got to get a job done.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: She's going to get it done. She don't care what
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: it does. She's got to get the job done. And so,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and I've, we've been very personable for the past, you know, 10,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: 12 years, whatever it's been. And, you know, I see
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: a very warm, kind-hearted person. That's who I've always saw.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And so I have to make people very understand. You're
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: watching a TV show, and Tamra's doing her f * * *
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: ing job. Okay? Whether you like it or not. Because
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: if she weren't doing her job, you wouldn't be watching it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: So I just want to be clear. I know the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: real Tamra, who's a hustler and takes things seriously. She's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: a Virgo. I'm Virgo rising. If we put to task,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: we'll f * * * ing do that task, right?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: But one thing I've noticed is that you don't put
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: yourself first enough, actually. And that might come to surprise
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: some people watching. Really, Tamara? No, she don't put herself first.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I put everybody else first.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Worry about mom, my buddy, everybody else. Tamara, can we
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: hone it in a little bit?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You will never hear me. I'll just put it into
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: show perspective. Everything that happened to me last season and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: how I was treated. Not one time do I go,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: but you guys were so mean to me. I'm thinking...
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: how can I make it better? How can I make
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: things better with everybody? I put everybody else first. Your feelings. Okay, whatever.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Let me just try to fix things.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: And I think you try or you never, you never
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: are the victim in anything in your life. And I
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: think that's a good thing, but sometimes I feel like
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: you need to let yourself, be a victim a little
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: bit and take a time for you to realize like, okay,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: these people did me wrong and that's not okay.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And the thing is for me too, like people will
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: do me wrong a lot and I will just forgive
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and forgive and forgive and rarely will hold a grudge
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and move on.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: And I think what happens too, is that the, the
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: inter entanglement of, okay, we're doing a reality show. And
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden things are kind of getting personal,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: but should I be hurt by this? But then I'm not.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of confusion with that
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: because the entanglement of reality TV versus like, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is this, should I be taking, should I be hurt
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: by this? And I know you don't like to feel hurt.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And I think this was a period in your life.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: You were allowing yourself to be vulnerable and to feel
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: hurt when it's, when it's justified, you know?
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like, especially in reality TV and when
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I was hurt, it wasn't, there was no, there was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: zero sympathy for me. It was always, let me beat
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: her down even more. So I'm always afraid to show
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: myself hurt because I just feel like as soon as
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I'm in And I might be jaded because I've been
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: on reality TV for so long, so long that any
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: time I brought hurt, if it was the custody battle with,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you know, my daughter, my kids, all my kids and
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: my daughter leaving me that season, I got my ass
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: served to me, flew home from Bali by myself. I mean,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: so every time something hurts me and I bring it up,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: People look down at me like, see, who cares?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Shut up.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: It's the Virgo.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: It's the Virgo. We can, Virgos can be, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: being a Virgo rising in Aquarius, but that we can
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: come off direct and abrasive to a lot of people,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: but you know, people are going to give you shit
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: no matter what, anybody shit, no matter what, you know?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And so, and that just exposing your vulnerability within yourself about,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You know, that no matter what, you should always be vulnerable, Tamara,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: no matter what, you know, and that just is healing
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: for you. And you've been a lot so more, I know, personally,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: you know, you've been allowing yourself to feel that. But,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: you know, again, for me, the transition is like I've
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: told you this for five, seven years about getting back into,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: you know, real estate and or interior design and working
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: in that space. you know, and really getting your hands
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: back onto the, you know, the, the energy of the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: home for other people.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have been approached to do like a home
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: renovation show and I, which was really good. It's kind
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of gone stale, but then they've reached out to me again.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of been like, okay, let's do this.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: We pitched it. Nobody picked it up. Then, then they
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: come back to me like, no, I really think you
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: can do this. And you know, I don't know if
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that's something that's going to be in the horizon for me.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I would say the context to which it may manifest
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: may alter slightly, but it will manifest. You will find
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: a situation to where you're doing that work. Even if
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: it's not a TV show, even if you're doing it
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and you're building clientele, it will turn into fruition because
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: first of all, people need to see you doing something
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: outside of the show that some of you actually are
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: passionate about and good at, and where you just light up. Right.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And then seeing, wow, she actually is very creative. She's great.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: She has a keen eye for this. And so, so
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of that aspect to socially that I
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: think that you need to experience, but also diving deep
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: into where you can really make a great deal of
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: consistency when it comes to money and connection and resource.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: So, well, podcasting has been a great addition to, to
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: my life and my career.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: You know why? No. Because you're expressing yourself.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: You're letting your emotions out. You're letting your point of
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: view out in a way that's allowed.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I never, I was asked so many times to do
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: a podcast and I won't do something until it feels
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: totally right in my gut.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Just like writing a book. You've told me that forever.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And I think one day I will, but it has
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to feel right. And I have to feel that aha moment.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: And when Teddy called me and asked me about this podcast,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I thought, not because it was Teddy, but it's just like,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: oh my, this makes sense. This makes sense. And we're
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: both so passionate about it. And we're at a hundred
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: million downloads counting at this point.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's fantastic.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And speaking of Teddy, oh my God, when Teddy got sick,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I reached out to you immediately.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I know. And everyone, I was like the only person like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: she's going to be okay. She's going to survive this
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and they will get rid of the cancer. I didn't
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: see her passing away, but I did say the fork
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: in the road that she will have emotionally. you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: with repressed karma, repressed trauma, all that stuff. And I'll
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: just leave it there to keep her privacy on it. But,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: you know, I specifically told you at that time what
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: it would be. And she, she was approaching that. It's difficult.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I said that would probably be the most
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: challenging for her than the actual cancer. I said, but
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: if she allows herself to heal that process and that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: fork and road, she'll be completely fine.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And at the time, you know, the doctors are like,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and I think you had said to me, it's kind
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of a learning lesson. for her in so many words.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: It's a karmic resolve. Yeah. So we have karmic means
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: that we have unresolved situations, either emotionally, intellectually, or spiritually
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: that need to be resolved. If not, they turn into,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: they manifest into negative circumstances, health issues, divorces, breakups, bankruptcies, right?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: They will manifest in negative ways until we force ourselves
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to look at the core issue. And so in this case,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: this is the cancer situation for her was forced her
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to look at the repressed traumas.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: And it did. And so she'll, she'll have, and I said,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it's a long journey for her, but my death is
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: not in the cards here.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Good. Nice.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Couldn't imagine life without her. Well, we're running out of time,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: but I just want to thank you so much, but
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: also can you let people know where to find you
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: if they want to book a session with you and
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: all that information?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: And those who've seen me, I have hair and tattoos
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: now and 30 pounds heavier. So people are like, I
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: don't look the same. That was a long time ago.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, scottcruzpm.com. It's like Scott Cruz psychic medium. So
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: scottcruzpm.com and yeah, I can book sessions for July intuition
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: builder sessions, the life readings, mediumship. If you want to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: connect with those who've crossed over, I do that as well.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram, YouTube, all that great stuff.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I will say everything that you have told me
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: has come true. And, you know, the very early days,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like you said, my grandmother would pop in and I'll
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: never forget you saying I was really struggling with the
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: divorce and the kid custody stuff and Sydney in particular.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And you said, wait, hold on, your grandma just came
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: through and she told you, don't fret. And I've never
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: heard anybody say that word ever except for my grandmother.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Right. Ever.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And that's not my word.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: That's not my terminology.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It's not even a word that people use very often,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: but she's, you just said, she keeps saying, don't fret.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Don't fret. And I'm like, Oh my God. You also,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: do you remember?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I kept saying, don't fret.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Or I said it and you're like, what?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: She said it to me one day.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what? Well, she's obviously connected to both of
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you guys, right? And so, you know, she could be
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a great leader for you too, Sophia, as well. I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: would say the one thing that I remember from back
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: in the day is when, you know, your son, Ryan,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: was having, they said he was having a boy. I'm like, nope,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: it's a girl. Like, did the doctor say she's having
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a boy? I'm like, nope, it's a girl. That's right.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I like that one because it goes against the medical stuff.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm just, I remember that from way
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: back in the day. I mean, we've had many along
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the years, but. Um, but yeah, it's been, it's been
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: fun actually.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: My big wish right now is my son, Ryan is
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: in a really good place and he's gone through some
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: ups and downs, but he's now dating somebody. And I,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I just hope like, this is the one.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it's the one thing. Let
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: me pop in a little bit quickly too, because they
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: have good chemistry. I can definitely sense that. I feel
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: that he can worry less with her for some reason.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So she feels like she's a more of a nurturing
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: energy to him and I think he really desires and
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to take care, take care, take care. And so
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like she allows him to do that, but
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: then he's also allowed to nurture her. So I feel
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: like it's a really good balance of the nurturing components.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: So I think they have a good, a good trajectory ahead,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you know, moving forward. I'm not going to say yes
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: or no if it's the one or not, but I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: feel like it's good right now because I don't want
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to go there. I also feel like he should be
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: working with cars or working on cars or fixing cars too.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Something with mechanics, I feel like he might. I think
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: he should go in that direction if he was thinking
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: about ways to make additional money or ways he could
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: find a passion. Working with cars, fixing cars, doing something
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: with mechanics. I feel like in the next three to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: five years, he might start feeling like a career shift, actually.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. He works on a ranch
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: now and he loves it. He loves horses and animals
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. And we come from
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: a long line of mechanics. My dad owned his own mechanic.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: My brother, that's what he does.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, interesting.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Even my dad, as old as he is now, he
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: still tinkers with cars.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Ryan does a lot of stuff on his own when
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it comes to his own car and things like that.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: So I could see that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Well, maybe encourage him, like, why don't you do
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: something and, you know, get paid, do money, get money
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: for this and, you know, find a way to turn
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: it into some sort of work as they're saying he's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: good with his hands in that regard. Yes, he is.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: But the work he does right now is so mentally
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: like exhausting and draining on his body. And he's starting
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to have like, you know, joint problems and back problems
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and things like that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if he takes a step back from that
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: because he's doing it in resistance, he may find the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: space to do what he really loves. But like I said,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the relationship that he's in now feels very supportive and
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: stable right now.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were good friends for like seven years before
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: they started dating.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful. That's awesome. That's a yes for me in
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that sense. I think they're at the right place at
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the right time right now for that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: You said something about me being in touch with, me
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: and my mom both being in touch with medium type stuff.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: You said that as I get older, I might start
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: seeing or noticing things. Explain further. I'm curious.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: The thing is, I call it extra century stuff to
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: where you might randomly feel like, say, with your partner, hey,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: guess what? I think your so-and-so is here. Or with
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a friend, I just got a really weird vibe about
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: a mom. You just start getting these really unique, strange,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: random pings. Just go with it. you know, just feel
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: it out more. Cause I always say those who have
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: intuition or psychic abilities, all you gotta do is ask
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: more questions about what you're getting. And then you get
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: more of that data, more than information. And so if
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you've already had the ability, it'd be easy for you
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to kind of like extract all that information. So just
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: be open to when you get those pings to like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: go with it, you know, throw it out there.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Because, because especially with, you know, Tamara as well, because
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: when you guys are in a state of passion, your,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: your consciousness is fully elevated. It's high vibe, high frequency, um,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: So you're more susceptible for your psychic abilities, you're more
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: susceptible to intuition and also inspiration. So naturally that stuff
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: will come through a lot stronger too. But I just
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: think you're going to have an interest in it too.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Like I actually want to learn about this more. You'll
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: have this curiosity of wanting to learn more about it too.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: And it's not even practice. You have a past incarnation.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: So if you have being a Wiccan, you've dealt with
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: like occult energy, dealing with energy manipulation. So you've done
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it before. So it's embedded in your subconscious.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: When I was in high school too.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you carry that. In a past life, you
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: did the same too, but you're a mastery of that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And so that curiosity and wanting to tap back into
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: that will resurface.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay. Damn. Yeah.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Wow. That's crazy. Well, Scott, you know, I love you
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and I just thank you so much for coming on
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the podcast. We tried to get you on with Teddy
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and it hasn't worked out yet because I know Teddy
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: wants to talk with you. So maybe you'll be on
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: two teas.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Next, but thank you so much.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You are our very first guest on the orange doesn't
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: fall far. And I just tell us that our podcast
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: is going to do amazing. That's all I want to hear.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: It already is.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: You know, what's funny. So I'm the first guest in
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the show and I was like, I think it was
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: episode 11. So we did. So that's one in 11
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: that we, you and I connected on media. So that's interesting. Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I think that the thing that people are going to
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: love about the podcast is the, the natural Tamara. That's
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: not housewives. That's not reality. So it's all about Tamara's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: life about Sophia's integration. They love seeing the mother dynamic.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: So those who maybe don't have the mother and daughter
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: dynamic is inspiring a lot of people. So, so yeah,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to do very well because of
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that alone.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Thank you so much, Scott. And I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: will talk to you real soon.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: All right, my loves. Good to see you guys.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Good to see you.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Bye-bye Scott.