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Republicans Propose to Protect Haitian Immigrants · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Oh, what a week it's been. Oh what a week
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  Speaker 1: it's been. We could do that on repeat.
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  Speaker 2: It's NonStop. I'm in New York for a weekend. I
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  Speaker 2: took a long weekend, a little trip here, and I
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  Speaker 2: was down the hall just a minute ago. Joe Piscopo
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  Speaker 2: occasionally invites me on to talk to talk to him
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  Speaker 2: about what's going on in the world. But he was
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  Speaker 2: a little chatty today and I kept looking frantically at
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  Speaker 2: the producer, saying, I got Mark Davis waiting down the hall.
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  Speaker 2: And I know Joe's important and all that, but yeah, heynlo,
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  Speaker 2: I have work to do. Yeah, Hey, hey, hey, TV
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  Speaker 2: film Superstar, I got, I got eminem here, we got
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  Speaker 2: we got Mark Davis down the hall.
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  Speaker 1: And how is he doing? For those who don't know,
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  Speaker 1: for is it? We're working on a more than a
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  Speaker 1: decade that Joe Piscopo, a rare not just a conservative
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  Speaker 1: fixture and show business, but in comedy, has been doing
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  Speaker 1: our local morning show on AM nine seventy the Answer
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  Speaker 1: in New York and just knocking it out of the park.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's great.
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  Speaker 2: He tells the story to this day of how he
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  Speaker 2: met me years before he became a talk show host.
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  Speaker 2: All right, now, listen to this story.
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  Speaker 1: He came up.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what he was promoting or why I
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  Speaker 2: wound up interviewing Joe Piscopote. Was back when we had
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  Speaker 2: studios in the Empire State Building, and oh do I
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  Speaker 2: miss those days. We had beautiful studios on the We
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  Speaker 2: were on the forty seventh floor of the Empire State Building.
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  Speaker 2: We had sweeping views of Manhattan. It was so cool. Anyway, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: he came.
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  Speaker 1: There for nine to eleven. When did you bug out
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  Speaker 1: of it?
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  Speaker 2: We were there from nine to eleven. Yeah, now that
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  Speaker 2: we moved once in the in the within the building,
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  Speaker 2: we were on the eighteenth floor. Then we were in
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  Speaker 2: Sweet eighteen eighteen. Our windows didn't face downtown, so we
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  Speaker 2: couldn't see the Twin Towers, but we knew what was
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  Speaker 2: going on. Eight forty five that morning, Ron Mitchell, who's
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  Speaker 2: now a big executive at Fox, he was my producer,
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  Speaker 2: and he came running in and saying, Mike, it looks like
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  Speaker 2: a plane hit one of the towers. Because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was on nine to noon nationally and by nine
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  Speaker 2: point fifteen they were evacuating the Empire State Building because
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  Speaker 2: they were afraid we were going to be next and.
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  Speaker 1: They had to bug you out of the building so
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  Speaker 1: that you didn't die. What did they do? Hit a
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  Speaker 1: best of tape?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well Alice was running it and it was a
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  Speaker 2: It was just pandemonium because we yeah, they had to
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  Speaker 2: put on just a just a backup tape. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go downtown and my wife and everybody's like, are
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  Speaker 2: you crazy, We're not going down there. I said, we
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  Speaker 2: ought to go down there and interview people, and they said,
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  Speaker 2: no way, We're not going to get near there. So
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  Speaker 2: we got in my car, loaded up Ron Mitchell, Eric Hanson,
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  Speaker 2: who's still with me to this day, all these years later.
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  Speaker 2: We got into my audi and we drove out onto
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  Speaker 2: the island, onto Long Island. We looked back as we
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  Speaker 2: went through the Queen's Midtown Tunnel. They sealed the tunnel
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  Speaker 2: right as we got out, so we were one of
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  Speaker 2: the last cars out because, believe me, they closed the
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  Speaker 2: bridges and tunnels whole day.
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  Speaker 1: Who knew exactly right, because the were flying planes into buildings.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows what they're bringing across the fifty ninth Street
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  Speaker 1: bridge or the bridge.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't know what was next. So then we went
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  Speaker 2: out onto the BQI. We pulled off to the side
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  Speaker 2: of the road and we washed with our own eyes
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  Speaker 2: as one of the towers collapsed. It was just a harrowing,
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  Speaker 2: harrowing experience. So anyway, before all of that, of course,
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  Speaker 2: we were in the Empire stateplelding. Joe Piscopo comes up
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  Speaker 2: for an interview. Joe was a blue dog Democrat. Joe
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  Speaker 2: was a Hollywood Saturday Night Live kind of a blue
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  Speaker 2: dog Democrat, guy left of center. And he came into
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  Speaker 2: the interview with me expecting to see like little horns
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  Speaker 2: and thought that he'd smell sulfur when he walked into
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  Speaker 2: the studio. He told me later and he walked out saying,
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  Speaker 2: that was one of the nicest guys I've ever met.
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  Speaker 2: And he started thinking as he tells the story, and
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  Speaker 2: I hate to give myself any credit here.
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  Speaker 1: But he said, you flipped Joe Episcopally, he.
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  Speaker 2: Would tell you I did. He did, in fact, just
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  Speaker 2: a minute ago. He did it again. Every time I
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  Speaker 2: talked to him, he reminds me of that time. And
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  Speaker 2: he came in and said, that's a good guy, and
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  Speaker 2: his policies make sense. Maybe these conservatives aren't the demons
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  Speaker 2: that I've been taught them to be. And he came around.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's a rock solid conservative. In fact, he and
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  Speaker 2: I were two of the only ones in the building
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  Speaker 2: here when Donald Trump came down the Golden escalator up
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  Speaker 2: the street from where we're sitting right now, Trump Tower,
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  Speaker 2: and Joe said.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of power, If you have that kind of power,
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  Speaker 1: we need to have you interviewing Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen
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  Speaker 1: Colbert immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Akidding, the list is long, my friend. Let's start with
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  Speaker 2: Nicole Malatakis here in New York, who went along with
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  Speaker 2: a seven or eight other Republicans in blocking this this
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  Speaker 2: uh and trying to extend temporary protection status for Haitians,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean eight of them stabbing him in the back.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it other than a New York Republican
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  Speaker 2: is different than a Texas Republican. Tell me, and and
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  Speaker 2: that's that's that's probably the whole story. Because Chip Roy,
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  Speaker 2: bless his heart, he said, oh yeah, seeking status, you
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  Speaker 2: want protected status. You know who wanted temporary protected status?
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  Speaker 2: The convenience store clerk who got her brains bashed in
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  Speaker 2: by a Haitian who shouldn't have been here, who is here?
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  Speaker 2: And so here's the tricky part about the temporary protected
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  Speaker 2: status of Haitians. Many of them are claiming economic hardship.
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  Speaker 1: They're not.
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  Speaker 2: They're not claiming they're going to get incarcerated or they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be tortured or murdered. They just want to
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  Speaker 2: make more money and they can make.
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  Speaker 1: It's what migrant It's what our grandparents did.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of our great grandparents came over here and said,
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  Speaker 2: I want to I want to make a better life
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  Speaker 2: for myself. Sorry, that doesn't qualify you for temporary protected
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  Speaker 2: status and let you stay here indefinitely for three years
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  Speaker 2: or more because you just want to make more money.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the problem here. But even Joe just a
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  Speaker 2: minute ago, he was saying, look, I'm a bleeding heart,
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I'm with the president on this. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, as Axios reports this morning, allegedly the Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration is backtracking on the optics of the mass deportation somewhat,
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  Speaker 2: saying that they don't like the optics. It's hurting it,
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  Speaker 2: it's not polling.
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  Speaker 1: Well, is there a Mark Wayne Mullen who's now a
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  Speaker 1: DHS secretary. He had a great quote this week he said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: we're still doing the deportations, but we're doing is somewhat quietly.
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  Speaker 1: We're not parading folks around all over the place. We're
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  Speaker 1: not inviting forty seven camera crews. We're getting it done.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting it done quietly and efficiently because people they
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  Speaker 1: still support the goal, they still support the policy, but
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  Speaker 1: just the visuals of it proved problematic. I think that
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  Speaker 1: seems smart, don't you. It does.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I go back to my long
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  Speaker 2: standing friendships not friendship, I guess, but relationship with Senator
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay Graham back when I was a local host in
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina. He told me many years ago, he said, look,
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  Speaker 2: we got millions of illegals here. Scooping them all up
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  Speaker 2: and kicking them out is not only going to look bad,
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  Speaker 2: and the optics is going to be bad, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not particularly pragmatic. It's not too practical. Is there a
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  Speaker 2: way to differentiate between the worst of the worst, which
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  Speaker 2: is what a lot of people thought was going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: And people who've been here for years haven't caused any trouble,
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  Speaker 2: haven't really, you know, broken any laws since the law
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  Speaker 2: they've broke to get here illegally, and it's a tough case.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, can we take thirty seconds on this
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  Speaker 2: horrific story of this monster, this demon, who pled guilty
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  Speaker 2: to abducting and murdering this beautiful, precious little girl, this
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  Speaker 2: seven year old girl. I don't know if you've followed.
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  Speaker 1: This only every day, and yet yesterday in the courtroom
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  Speaker 1: they played the audio of him killing her. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: audio in the.
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  Speaker 2: Truck, right, they had they had video and audio surveillance
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  Speaker 2: rolling in the FedEx truck that he was driving when
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  Speaker 2: he killed her. Now he covered up the camera, thank god,
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  Speaker 2: But the audio was horrific. In fact, the jury was
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  Speaker 2: openly weeping. They were distraught. The family had to leave
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom, and the little girl, this is tough. The
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  Speaker 2: little girl was saying things like, are you a kidnapper?
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  Speaker 2: Are you a kidnapper? What are you doing? Why are
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  Speaker 2: you doing this? Are you a kidnapper? And he told
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  Speaker 2: her to take her shirt off, and she said, my
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  Speaker 2: mommy said I'm not I'm not supposed to do things
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  Speaker 2: like that for people. And the idea that this monster
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  Speaker 2: then choked the life out of her mark it is
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  Speaker 2: just impossible, impossible to believe that this guy won't get
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  Speaker 2: the death penalty. On Wednesday, just mentioned it.
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  Speaker 1: Here come the defense attorneys who will say, hey, he
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  Speaker 1: has autism. Better on the text lineman from me. Here's
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  Speaker 1: somebody who said, as the parent of somebody with autism,
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  Speaker 1: I am morbid, deeply offended, mortified by the notion of
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  Speaker 1: defense attorneys trying to wrap an autism excuse to get
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  Speaker 1: a brutal, brutal murderer off a death row.
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  Speaker 2: When I said the other day that we ought to
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  Speaker 2: bring back public executions, I'm not trying to be morbid,
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  Speaker 2: But doesn't that send a message? Wouldn't that deliver? Look,
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  Speaker 2: this is open and shot. The guy pled guilty. The
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  Speaker 2: guy did it. They've got him dead to rights. He
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  Speaker 2: took this innocent little girl, and every aspect of it
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  Speaker 2: is so heartbreaking. He was delivering a Barbie doll to
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  Speaker 2: the girl delivering.
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  Speaker 1: From her father. The marriage had broken up, and the
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  Speaker 1: dad fedexed his child a Barbie package. How'd you like
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  Speaker 1: to be the dad knowing that GF, if I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: ordered the barbiees via FedEx, my kid would still be alive.
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  Speaker 1: So he got that, and he was on the stand
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  Speaker 1: the Mom's been on the stand, everybody's been on the stand,
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  Speaker 1: and coming up Wednesday, the defense will present its case
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  Speaker 1: on why this creature should be spared.
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  Speaker 2: So to anyone who is against the death penalty, tell
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  Speaker 2: us why explain how this guy gets three square meals
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  Speaker 2: a day and cable TV for the rest of his life.
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  Speaker 2: It's a belogneyan it ought to be public. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: we revisited the Erica Kirk saga a little bit yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with canvas and all that. Did you see the big
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  Speaker 2: announcement of the revelation the bullet does match the gun
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  Speaker 2: after all? Oh yeah, do tell so all the theories
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  Speaker 2: about how the bullet didn't match the gun? The Tyler
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  Speaker 2: Robinson rich Lowry very sarcastically and Riley posted online this morning, Well,
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  Speaker 2: it appears that perhaps, just perhaps, there was a guy
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  Speaker 2: who hated Charlie, who confessed the crime to many other
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  Speaker 2: people and was caught pretty much dead to rights shooting
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  Speaker 2: and killing Charlie Kirk. Maybe that's what happened. But yet, gosh,
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  Speaker 2: the conspiracy theorists are just going crazy on this.
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  Speaker 1: I had a theory yesterday. In my last hour yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there going through some of this, and in fact,
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  Speaker 1: I was all amid the notion that I'm pretty all
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  Speaker 1: ready to stop even saying the names Tucker Carlson and
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  Speaker 1: Candae Owens and I am, but as you properly remind me,
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  Speaker 1: that's a faction. That's just something you can't totally ignore.
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  Speaker 1: I had a theory because you asked. Sometimes you just
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  Speaker 1: can't figure people out. There is no explanation. They're just bent,
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  Speaker 1: They're just broken. We played a Turning Point USA commercial.
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  Speaker 1: It was for some event they have coming up, and
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  Speaker 1: it's very religious in nature. Turning Points one of the
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  Speaker 1: genius names because it was meant to turn young people
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  Speaker 1: from liberalism from conservatism, and meant to turn people from
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  Speaker 1: godlessness toward God. All kinds of turning points that are praiseworthy. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: and not that everybody's an atheist or an agnostic or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but there is something fundamentally religious and christ Like about
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  Speaker 1: Turning Point. And I wonder in this new right, mega secular,
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  Speaker 1: anti Israel world that Charlie that what got Charlie on
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  Speaker 1: the bad side of these people might not have been
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  Speaker 1: anything about concern botism, but it might have been about Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe these people know that if people more people are
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  Speaker 1: leaning into God, leaning into Jesus, they won't have as
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  Speaker 1: much need for the podcast. Bros Or well visionaries at
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  Speaker 1: microphones in the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You could be right. I think we've kind of explored
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  Speaker 2: this topic to a fairly well. I got an email
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  Speaker 2: from a listener in Chicago said, Mike, I love your show,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm getting increasingly frustrated with you. Why are you
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  Speaker 2: constantly airing the garbage that Candice and Tucker Carlson are saying.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many issues that we have to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: I suspect you're promoting their theories because there's no reason
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  Speaker 2: for you to keep mentioning those two. Please do better, Minuel,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's like a train wreck. You slow down,
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  Speaker 1: you look at it. Well, not only no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: but it's more figure out what makes people tick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, but it's more than that. It's more
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  Speaker 2: than the train wreck theory. It's or the phenomenon. It's
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  Speaker 2: that they are impacting people. And if you don't push back,
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  Speaker 2: there are people who listen to Mark Davis or Mike
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  Speaker 2: Gallagher and are gonna and don't hear it challenged. Eyr.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna believe it is silence.
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  Speaker 2: There are people around go around Central the bullet didn't
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  Speaker 2: match the gun because that's what Canda said, and now
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  Speaker 2: turns out that was debunked. And back to your final
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  Speaker 2: point about religious resurgence. Have you seen the recent polling
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  Speaker 2: gen Z men are going back to church, young men.
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  Speaker 2: Young men are going back to church in really historic numbers.
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  Speaker 2: So don't give up on this country. Like Rush said,
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  Speaker 2: We're never gonna give up. You've got a lot to
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  Speaker 2: do here. We got a lot of work to do.
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  Speaker 2: And just pray I don't get lit on fire today
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  Speaker 2: on the subway on the way.
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  Speaker 1: But I got to quite you lest you're there for
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  Speaker 1: the weekend?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: How many Broadway shows? But where are you going? Uh? Three?
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  Speaker 2: So don't I got to see Death of a Salesman.
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  Speaker 2: It's an American classic. Two of my favorite actors of
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  Speaker 2: all time, Nathan Lane and Laurie Metcalf are the leads,
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  Speaker 2: and she was brilliant. And I met the show, Arthur
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  Speaker 2: Miller's classic. And then I got to have a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of fun. I have to admit I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: geek out at the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Don't make
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  Speaker 2: fun of me. No, no listening to the time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm old enough where I was at a midnight show
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  Speaker 1: in the University of Maryland to throw toilet paper and
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  Speaker 1: toast and all those stupid things that you did when
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  Speaker 1: that movie first came out. And and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: it was Susan Sarandon in that movie.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you know later and you know how
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  Speaker 2: you yell out in the movie. Well, they're doing yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but they're doing that in the Broadway production now, and
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  Speaker 2: the actors apparently are mad about it, so they're now
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  Speaker 2: trying to rain the audience in. I'm like, no, stop.
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  Speaker 2: But when you cut it out like people have fun,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna yell no matter what tonight, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: good tomorrow. Whatever I'm having together. I look for stories
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  Speaker 2: on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Stories.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I have a great week. Great monekend Mike's Mike's in
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  Speaker 1: New York. It's his kind of time. Mike Gallagher today.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as we're done, ten o'clock on six sixty am.