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Speaker 1: It's the gold reform.
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Speaker 2: It Tonight, Greta Tunberg makes a fool of herself, Israel's
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Speaker 2: humiliates her and then puts her on a plane out
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Speaker 2: of the country as Donald Trump mocks. Plus how the
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Speaker 2: riots in Los Angeles really started and no, it wasn't
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Speaker 2: Trump's fault.
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Speaker 3: And our military goes to war on the weather.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't have enough money for weapons against China, but
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Speaker 2: does fight global warming with two new Soular farms. An
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Speaker 2: extraordinary story also tonight, and llegened Muslim hate preachers sued
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Speaker 2: in a case that may put Islam itself on trial,
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Speaker 2: and it's Josh Fredenberg planning return to politics.
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Speaker 3: Fascinating moves in Kuyong.
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Speaker 2: But first, the Prime Minister gave a big victory speech
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Speaker 2: today at the National Press Club.
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Speaker 3: Was frightening.
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Speaker 2: It was deluded, It was deceptive. It was a fantasy
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Speaker 2: that somehow ignored the dangers were in dangers that even
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Speaker 2: as he spoke, were getting worse fresh reports in the papers.
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Speaker 2: Does anything Albinezy actually understand what's going on? It was
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Speaker 2: incredible and no journalists contradicted him most of this. Albaniz
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Speaker 2: he won last month's selection with lies, and today was
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Speaker 2: still telling falsehoods like this, just for a start.
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Speaker 4: On the third of May, the Australian people voted for
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Speaker 4: Australian values, for fairness, aspiration and opportunity for all, for
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Speaker 4: a progressive patriotism.
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Speaker 2: No, Australias did not vote for whatever Albanese is calling
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Speaker 2: progressive patriotism. I guess ninety nine percent of voters couldn't
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Speaker 2: even tell you what that actually means progressive patriotism, And indeed,
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Speaker 2: what they are in fact getting from Albanese is the
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Speaker 2: opposite to patriotism is three flags division, destroying our unity,
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Speaker 2: dividing us by race, thrashing our history. And the division,
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Speaker 2: by the way, is what alben is he did with
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Speaker 2: the very first words out of his mouth today.
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Speaker 4: I begin by acknowledging the traditional owners the land on
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Speaker 4: which we're mating, and paying more respect to elders past,
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Speaker 4: present and emerging.
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Speaker 2: Then there was this fantasy that is planned for net
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Speaker 2: zero emissions by twenty fifty is actually working.
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Speaker 4: A future where we realize our potential as a renewable
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Speaker 4: energy superpower, a future where we have a thriving advanced
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Speaker 4: manufacturing industry.
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Speaker 3: Again, you know this is false effect.
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Speaker 2: Today, more reports of this fantasy of becoming a renewable
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Speaker 2: energy superpower is already dying, especially his dream of making
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Speaker 2: lots of green hydrogen, as his energy minister has often promised.
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Speaker 4: And we also know that our green hydrogen future is
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Speaker 4: fundamental to that clean energy future.
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Speaker 2: Now, Albinizi promised eight billion dollars to help make this
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Speaker 2: green hydrogen that's actually created by pumping massive amounts of
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Speaker 2: wind and solar power through water, but then invests that
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Speaker 2: billionaire Andrew forres of instead scraped one project after another,
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Speaker 2: saying the gas is just too expensive. And just today
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Speaker 2: there was another report of a wake up called a
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Speaker 2: hydrogen bombshell. Our two biggest remaining gas a green hydrogen
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Speaker 2: projects admit the gas they make will cost way too much,
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Speaker 2: more than four times the price of rival energy. You've
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Speaker 2: got Singapore based Intercontinental Energy that's a co owner of
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Speaker 2: two huge developments here, admitting that the initial costs of
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Speaker 2: its hydreen would be at least eight dollars a kilo,
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Speaker 2: and in time, well maybe it could be half that,
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Speaker 2: you know, four dollars, but to be competitive, it still
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Speaker 2: need to be less than two dollars. On Earth would
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Speaker 2: buy green hydrogen twice the price of twice the best price.
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Speaker 2: And as for Albanese's promise of a strong manufacturing sector,
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Speaker 2: here higher power prices made worse by this knit zero mania,
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Speaker 2: are in fact destroying them. Our nickel industry already gone,
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Speaker 2: glass makers for construction gone, fertilizer plants going, and now
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Speaker 2: there are reports of Tomago, the biggest aluminium spilter in
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Speaker 2: New South Wales, is also going broke because of high
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Speaker 2: power prices and unreliable wind and sol that and its
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Speaker 2: governments are going to give it over billions of dollars
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Speaker 2: of aid. I mean, seriously, Earth to Anthony Albanezi, your
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Speaker 2: green energy revolution, it's a croc. But there was a
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Speaker 2: third fantasy in Albaneze's speech.
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Speaker 3: Today.
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Speaker 4: Our vition is for a society that is a microcosm
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Speaker 4: for the world, where all are respects did and valued,
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Speaker 4: and our diversity is recognized as a strength.
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Speaker 2: Politicians love saying diversity makes us stronger because it makes
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Speaker 2: them seem so tolerant, and then they don't get into
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Speaker 2: awkward arguments. Now, sure diversity can help in some ways
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Speaker 2: to make a country stronger, but in many ways it
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Speaker 2: is in fact a challenge, a potential weakness. And again
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Speaker 2: you just need to look at today's news. Two items
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Speaker 2: in fact. One, the case of Wissam Haddad of Bankstown,
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Speaker 2: Almadina Dawa Center is a Muslim pre cheers in the
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Speaker 2: federal court today suit for racial discrimination over various sermons
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Speaker 2: he gave are allegedly called Jews vile and treacherous people
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Speaker 2: and said, among other things, this about killing Jews.
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Speaker 5: Towards the end of times, when the Muslims will be
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Speaker 5: fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the soune will speak,
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Speaker 5: and I'll say, Oh, Muslim, I believe there is a
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Speaker 5: Yahudi behind me, Come and kill.
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Speaker 2: Him who he is due. I've cross slated to scaring us.
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Speaker 2: Karen Marcus, what happened in court today with that bloke.
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Speaker 2: But just ahead of today's hearing, had I posted this
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Speaker 2: clip another ceremony gave about this case about this very
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Speaker 2: case today, adding the picture of a sword.
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Speaker 5: I have no problem facing the Jewish lobby, even when
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Speaker 5: they drag us in courts, even if they put my
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Speaker 5: photo and the photo of the censer on the media.
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Speaker 3: I have absolutely no problem with that.
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Speaker 5: And I have overly condemned any system other than the
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Speaker 5: system of a lo hors of hand or or that.
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Speaker 3: But they are the one dragging us to court. So
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Speaker 3: we're not going to come unarmed.
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Speaker 6: We're going to fight them with everything that we have.
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Speaker 5: But if this fighting means that it brings some sort
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Speaker 5: of strength to the Muslim community, and it teaches a
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Speaker 5: Muslim community that we should no longer be.
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Speaker 2: Bullet now you might still insists, yes, yes, just diversity
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Speaker 2: does make us stronger, and one Muslim preacher doesn't disprove that,
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Speaker 2: but there are others. In fact, Australia Today also reported
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Speaker 2: in this Victorian shake. Samir Motadi, also known as Abuhamza
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Speaker 2: born in Lebanon, speaking here of Zionists, or more correctly,
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Speaker 2: I believe Israeli Jews.
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Speaker 7: I've always said that, I've always believed that these Zionists
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Speaker 7: are not normal. They're blood sucking human beings. They're cavengers,
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Speaker 7: they're not humans. I swear by a lot and shown
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Speaker 7: what they all go back to Ukraine and Russia and
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Speaker 7: America and Britain, and that Palestine is pure from these
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Speaker 7: filthy tourist Zionists.
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Speaker 3: And this blood's actually been called the moderate. Now.
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Speaker 2: I did see sermons by him fifteen seventeen years ago
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Speaker 2: and It's true he was telling Muslims they were lucky
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Speaker 2: to live here. They should remember they had more rights
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Speaker 2: here than in Muslim countries. They should reject Holy war here.
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Speaker 2: But he seems an angrier man today.
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Speaker 7: There is a word that exists in which is more,
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Speaker 7: much more dangerous than the war in Hussa, and living
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Speaker 7: in this country, we need to understand.
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Speaker 6: That the one that exists or which is much more dangerous,
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Speaker 6: which is the war.
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Speaker 3: Of no bond.
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Speaker 2: Ottadi is also called former officers leader Peter unt In
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Speaker 2: a filthy animal. Yet this is a man that Victorian
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Speaker 2: labor MPs, including Victoria's police Minister, actually court and promote
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Speaker 2: and grin like happy folks next to him.
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Speaker 3: What's more, we only need to look.
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Speaker 2: Right now at Los Angeles to see violent protests waving
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Speaker 2: Mexican flags, attacking immigration officials and police to stop evicting
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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants, to see that diversity is just as much
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Speaker 2: a challenge as it is a strengthen around the West West.
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Speaker 3: Right now, it seems more a weakness.
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Speaker 2: So I have a question, is it really too much
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Speaker 2: to ask for a prime minister to tell voters true
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Speaker 2: are not fantasies, and especially fantasies that hide real dangers.
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Speaker 3: Now you heard the Prime.
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Speaker 2: Minister talking up how he was finding this supposed global
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Speaker 2: warming menace, but when it came to confronting the very
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Speaker 2: real menace of the Chinese communist dictatorship, suddenly couldn't say
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Speaker 2: that he saw any threat at all.
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Speaker 6: Do you think China is a national security threat to Australia.
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Speaker 4: I think that our engagement with the region and the
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Speaker 4: world needs to be diplomatic, needs to be mature, and
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Speaker 4: needs to avoid the attempts to simplify what are a
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Speaker 4: complex set of relationships, and Australian journalists should do the same.
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Speaker 3: But does that mean China is a potential military threat?
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Speaker 6: Twist?
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Speaker 4: We have strategic competition in the region.
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Speaker 2: Let me show you something truly crazy. It's a brilliant
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Speaker 2: example of what you do get from a defense force
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Speaker 2: when it's headed by a prime minister like that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the Albanizi is stripty strained defense force of the bone
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Speaker 2: to pay for nuclear submarines we won't start getting for
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Speaker 2: another decade and more. He just won't top up its
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Speaker 2: budget to pay for more drones and missiles and extra
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Speaker 2: supply ships and jet fighters. So you know, three Chinese
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Speaker 2: warships concerned and navigate Australia firing guns and we didn't
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Speaker 2: have we could put a frigate in the sea to
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Speaker 2: follow them.
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Speaker 3: I mean unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Yet this almost toothless Defense Force said last week it
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Speaker 2: does have money to fight that climate, to shoot at
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Speaker 2: the clouds or who I don't know, in fact, to
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Speaker 2: build soul of projects in the Northern Territory. Here is
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Speaker 2: Albanizi's Assistant Minister for Defense, Matt Thistlewaite, opening the new
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Speaker 2: solar farmer the RWLF Base Darwin, with the ADF boasting
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Speaker 2: that Defense is taking practical measures to respond to climate
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Speaker 2: change risks and enhance Defense's energy resilience. If only it
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Speaker 2: had the resilience to shoot down missiles. Celia Perkins, who's
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Speaker 2: actually a very senior Defense official, actually called its chief
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Speaker 2: sustainability officer of all things.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's going to scare China.
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Speaker 2: Oh, which can't attack Australia. It's got a chief sustainability officer.
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Speaker 2: She says, Defense is thinking and acting differently to achieve
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Speaker 2: the government's emissions reduction targets. Joining me is our Tuesday
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Speaker 2: regular National Senator Mat Canavan the former Resources Minister Matt Canavan.
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Speaker 2: I mean that is just beyond parody. Our military doesn't
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Speaker 2: have the money for more drones, but it does for
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Speaker 2: solar panels. Under a prime minister that today couldn't even
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Speaker 2: bring himself to say that China was a potential military threat.
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Speaker 3: Does this strike you as insane?
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not just insane, Andrew, it's self defeating for
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Speaker 1: our own nation. Our defense force should be focused on
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Speaker 1: one ultimate aim, and that is in the name of
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Speaker 1: its own organization, to defend Australia. Its job is not
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Speaker 1: to change the temperature of the globe. Its job is
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Speaker 1: not to pursue the latest woke left wing agendas. It
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Speaker 1: is to defend this country. And as you've outlined, there
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Speaker 1: are threats in our region. China has been acting in
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Speaker 1: a threatening way. In fact, the government's own the Labor
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Speaker 1: government's own defense white Paper defines China's assert of military
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Speaker 1: actions as destabilizing to our region. So why couldn't the
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Speaker 1: Prime minister say that today?
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Speaker 6: Why couldn't he.
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Speaker 1: Just repeat what is in his own defense white paper
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Speaker 1: instead of the weasel words we got And you could
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Speaker 1: tell he was very very uncomfortable there. We need to
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Speaker 1: call a spade a spade. As Australians, China is acting
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Speaker 1: incredibly aggressive to its neighbors and near neighbors. It's circumnavigated
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Speaker 1: our own continents without warning. It's conducted live fire exercises
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Speaker 1: under a flight path, a civilian flight path between Australia
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Speaker 1: and New Zealand. Why can't the Prime Minister call this
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Speaker 1: out and why isn't this government giving direction to our
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Speaker 1: defense force. Say, look, your job is to defend our country.
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Speaker 1: Your job is to spend the limited defense budget we have.
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Speaker 1: It should be more, but the limited defense budget we
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Speaker 1: have on those issues. Instead we have it Spending on
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Speaker 1: these is completely trivial matters to the defense of our
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Speaker 1: nation and aren't going to make the difference to the environment,
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Speaker 1: but are distracting our defense forces from their key role.
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Speaker 2: It's just like I said, beyond parody. It is the
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Speaker 2: joke of Australia, just an updoad in the Chinese threat
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Speaker 2: you mentioned, I mean only this morning, Taiwan's Defense ministry
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Speaker 2: reported that Chine has sent fourteen warplanes and six naval
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Speaker 2: vessels to go threat in Taiwan or practice cutting it
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Speaker 2: off from the rest of the world. The Chinese across
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Speaker 2: fourteen times over the median Liane defend dividing those two
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Speaker 2: countries to test that one's reaction. It's just extraordinary. But
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Speaker 2: on the whole, what did you make of the Prome
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Speaker 2: Minister's speech today?
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Speaker 1: Look, I don't think he got out of first gear Andrew.
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Speaker 1: Most of the speech simply was a rehash of what
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Speaker 1: he said at the election. And we do face these
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Speaker 1: major issues. You've highlighted one in the geopolitical sense, the
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Speaker 1: military sense. We have still an economic crist this country,
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Speaker 1: with economic growth being so small, so small in fact
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Speaker 1: that we've had eight of the last nine quarters where
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Speaker 1: per person in comes in Australia have gone down.
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Speaker 3: There was no response to that.
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Speaker 1: The only thing he did announce was a meeting, another
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Speaker 1: meeting to have on productivity. He didn't mention the fact
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Speaker 1: that in his first term as Prime Minister we saw
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Speaker 1: a more than five percent fall in productivity. There's never
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Speaker 1: been reduction like that over a three year period of
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Speaker 1: any kind in recorded Australian economic history. The Primis had
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Speaker 1: no response to that in his first term. He's now
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Speaker 1: calling a meeting, but I don't even think he's diagnosing
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Speaker 1: the problems correctly. Here, Andrew, where productivity has really fallen
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Speaker 1: is protect particularly in our energy sector, our mining sectors.
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Speaker 1: And his speech was all, let's just keep going, let's
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Speaker 1: keep going and doubling down on the hydrogen failures that
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Speaker 1: you've outlined, the renewable energy failures that he's continuing to
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Speaker 1: preside over. We're not going to fix the productivity issue
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Speaker 1: we've got this country unless we properly diagnose what has
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Speaker 1: gone wrong to get us in this position.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just call up a graphic where that
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Speaker 2: makes exactly the point you've just pointed out. In fact,
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Speaker 2: I think your handwriting is on this that productivity has
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Speaker 2: in fact dropped like a stone since how many as
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Speaker 2: he was first elected.
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Speaker 3: It's just incredible.
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Speaker 2: Look at that he gets elected and it drops nearly
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Speaker 2: six percent, which as it just hasn't happened for decades
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Speaker 2: and decades. Do you think he's serious when he says, oh, look,
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Speaker 2: let's have this productively round table. I'll hear, you know,
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Speaker 2: suggestions from business leaders, when in fact he ambushed them
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Speaker 2: at their first meeting with business leaders around table at
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Speaker 2: the start of his last term, and really, you know,
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Speaker 2: just ran through all this pro union laws et cetera,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Isn't that the real issue? How is he
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Speaker 2: promising to actually pull back those you know, those crony
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Speaker 2: union kind of laws and restrictions and start approving more projects,
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Speaker 2: particularly mining and energy.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, for all our psyches, I hope he is.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I do generally hope that he gets serious
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Speaker 1: so on fixing up the bottle etxe in our economy.
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Speaker 1: I think the Australian economy is in a very dire
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Speaker 1: state right now. We've seen very lackluster private investment figures
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Speaker 1: in the last few months. I mentioned the fact that
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Speaker 1: we've been going backwards in per person terms. The only
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Speaker 1: reason we've had some economic growth over the last few
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Speaker 1: years is because we've been importing massive amounts of people
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Speaker 1: from overseas and the government's been spending heaps of money,
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Speaker 1: which is unsustainable. So we've got to take action. So
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Speaker 1: I hope he takes action, not just a meeting. You
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Speaker 1: mentioned the Jobs and Skills summit that he started his
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Speaker 1: first term with where he ambushed those business people. An
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Speaker 1: interesting point there, Andrew, is at this massive economic summit
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Speaker 1: that the promised to call just months into his term,
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Speaker 1: he didn't invite the Productivity Commission, the key economic advisory
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Speaker 1: body for the government. On guests one to their name productivity.
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Speaker 1: He didn't even invite them along and there was no
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Speaker 1: discussion of productivity. And now he's shocked, seemingly shocked that
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Speaker 1: in his first three years of government, where he's presided
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Speaker 1: as Prime Minister over the worst productivity performance of our
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Speaker 1: nation's history.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the.
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Speaker 1: Important thing here is to tell people that without productivity growth,
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Speaker 1: if productivity is slow as it is here, we end
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Speaker 1: up with higher inflation than necessary because there is not
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Speaker 1: enough goods, more money chasing too few goods were therefore
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Speaker 1: end up with higher interest rates as we have in
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Speaker 1: response to trying to tackle that inflation, and that can
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Speaker 1: then lead to an economic downturn, particularly in private investment,
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Speaker 1: as we're seeing as well. So to get the standard
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Speaker 1: living of Australians back up to where it used to
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Speaker 1: be before Anthony Alberinezi was Prime Minister, we desperately need
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Speaker 1: to take action on productivity. As I say, I'd love
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Speaker 1: to see it, but all we got today was more talk,
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Speaker 1: not action.
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Speaker 2: No, I think it's playing another ambush of business, but
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Speaker 2: more full them and they get full twice. Matt canavan,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much indeed for your time after the
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Speaker 2: break and alleged Sydney hate preacher in court today, Plus
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Speaker 2: Greta Tumberg flies out of Israel after a disastrous stunt
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Speaker 2: to embarrass them.
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Speaker 3: Boy did this stunt backfar?
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Speaker 2: And Greta Tumberg shaving to Gaza to embarrass Israel has
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Speaker 2: just left. This sanctimonious scold, the one with egg on
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Speaker 2: her face, who thought she showed up, should be going
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Speaker 2: there to show up Israel's cruelty to Palestinians by trying
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Speaker 2: to break Israel's blockade of Gaza. In fact, it has
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Speaker 2: already been pictured being fed herself by Israeli soldiers and
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Speaker 2: smiling as she's been pictured in front of Israeli flags.
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Speaker 2: Has been reported as refusing to watch a film The
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Speaker 2: Hamas mascre of Jews in October seven, so you know,
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Speaker 2: deliberately blind to the truth. And then after that blizzard
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Speaker 2: of pro Israel news was popped right onto a plane
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Speaker 2: out of the country. She got just one night in
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Speaker 2: Israeli detention, essentially to get a good sleep, and already
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Speaker 2: is like bye bye, Greta, thanks for dropping in and
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Speaker 2: that tiny bit of food that she and the other
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Speaker 2: eleven activists on a boat we're bringing to gazas this
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Speaker 2: Raeli said, don't you worry, we will bring that to
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Speaker 2: Gaza along with all the other food, truckloads of.
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Speaker 3: It we already let in. Really it could hardly have
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Speaker 3: gon worse for Greta.
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Speaker 2: In fact, the whole stunt exposer is just an attention junkie,
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Speaker 2: and worse as a tool of extremists, a useful idiot.
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Speaker 2: So both these things were actually clear right from the
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Speaker 2: very start. We saw, for instance, that Tumberg six bier
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Speaker 2: principles apparently only while they make good publicity. So it
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Speaker 2: seems now, I mean, six years ago, Tumberg was a
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Speaker 2: global warming superstar.
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Speaker 3: One it seem so.
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Speaker 2: Pure that she refused to fly from Europe to New
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Speaker 2: York to give a speech to the United Nations. She
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Speaker 2: instead went bay yacht all sales, zero missions, and not
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Speaker 2: even a toilet on it to get all that to
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Speaker 2: get rave reviews from the UN about being so against
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Speaker 2: fossil fuels. This time, however, she sailed in a yacht
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Speaker 2: with diesel engines. You can hear them humming in this
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Speaker 2: video shot during the trip to Gaza by another activist
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Speaker 2: on board, and all this while the sales, as you'll see,
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Speaker 2: are furled.
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Speaker 8: Today marks our seventh day, so you brought the madeleine.
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Speaker 2: As you can see, we're still on our way, heading
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Speaker 2: straight toward Gaza with nothing.
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Speaker 9: What went in our sales and purpose in our heights,
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Speaker 9: wind in ourselves by foot and look at.
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Speaker 3: The company Greta kept there.
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Speaker 2: One of the self described founders of the group that
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Speaker 2: organized this voyage, this one boat freedom flotilla is bere
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Speaker 2: are we now bere are We wasn't actually on the boat.
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Speaker 2: But he's a Palatini in Britain who has been described
21:22
Speaker 2: in Parliament as a person with the links to Hamas,
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Speaker 2: which he denies, as someone who has been actually photographed
21:28
Speaker 2: with the then leader of Hamas, Ishmael Haneia in the
21:32
Speaker 2: scarf there. Now he has since been assassinated. But what
21:36
Speaker 2: company Greta keeps that activists you just saw speaking there
21:40
Speaker 2: with the engines running in the background. Seems an anti
21:43
Speaker 2: white racist to me. A German of Turkish background telling
21:48
Speaker 2: some German woman she had no right to speak about
21:50
Speaker 2: pro Palasinian radicals in our own country because she's white.
22:01
Speaker 2: And then, as he said before, told you a couple
22:04
Speaker 2: of nights ago. Also on the boat was this Brazilian
22:08
Speaker 2: Tiago Vila, who was such a fan of the now
22:11
Speaker 2: assassinated leader of the hesbla terrorist group that he was
22:14
Speaker 2: at the man's funeral calling the dead Nazarella a martyred
22:19
Speaker 2: hero and beloved.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing, This whole stunt was just
22:24
Speaker 3: so embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: And the arrest of this dopey dozen on this boat
22:30
Speaker 2: those Radish soldiers were such an anti climax, no violence,
22:34
Speaker 2: little drama.
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Speaker 3: And then to top it all off, Donald Trump made
23:04
Speaker 3: fun of Tunberg.
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Speaker 10: Well, she's a strange person. She's a young, angry person.
23:09
Speaker 10: I don't know if it's real anger. It's hard to believe, actually,
23:12
Speaker 10: but I saw what happened. Uh, she's certainly different anger management.
23:18
Speaker 10: I think she has to go to an anger management lass.
23:22
Speaker 10: That's my primary recommendation for her.
23:25
Speaker 2: Grea Tunberg has gone from a global warming messiah to
23:30
Speaker 2: a global joke. Now a prominent Muslim preacher, Wisam Haddad
23:36
Speaker 2: of Bankstown, al Medina Dawa Center, he fronted the Federal
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Speaker 2: court in Sydney today for the start of four day hearing,
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Speaker 2: accused of vilifying Jews. Hadad is being sued by the
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Speaker 2: Executive Council of Australian Jury for racial discrimination in various
23:50
Speaker 2: sermons he gave, where he allegedly has a set of
23:52
Speaker 2: top of the show, was calling Jews vile and treacherous people,
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Speaker 2: and for sermons including that one I showed you two
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Speaker 2: about killing Jews.
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Speaker 5: Now, what's towards the end of times when the Muslims
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Speaker 5: will be fighting that the Jews, the trees will seek.
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Speaker 5: The stone will speak and I'll say, oh, Muslim, I
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Speaker 5: believe there is a Yahudi behind me, come and kill him.
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Speaker 2: I played it again because I wanted to show you
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Speaker 2: that had in that case was actually quoting from a
24:20
Speaker 2: sacred Islamic text, the Sahib Bukhari, which is a prophecy
24:24
Speaker 2: by the way, it's not a commandment, and it says
24:26
Speaker 2: the hour, meaning the hour of the last days, will
24:29
Speaker 2: not be established until he fight with the Jews, and
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Speaker 2: the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, oh, Muslim,
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Speaker 2: there is a Jew hiding behind.
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Speaker 3: Me, so kill him.
24:37
Speaker 2: So in a sense, then you could argue that the
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Speaker 2: preaching of Islam itself is on trial here because it's
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Speaker 2: in the q Quranic verses or in fact the sacred hadith.
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Speaker 2: I was joined a short while ago from outside the
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Speaker 2: court by Scyonis reporter and hosts Caroline Marcus Karena Marcus,
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Speaker 2: great to see you, wish had Dad. What are the
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Speaker 2: claims made against him? What are the complaints?
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Speaker 9: Well, essentially, Andrew, this is a trial about anti Semitism
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Speaker 9: with some Hadada is accused of breaching the Racial Bilification
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Speaker 9: Act Section eighteen C by giving five sermons in November
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty three in which he variously describes Jews as
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Speaker 9: the descendants of pigs at monkeys, a vile and treacherous people,
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Speaker 9: and also made some of the comments that you played
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Speaker 9: in the introduction, preaching about Muslims.
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Speaker 8: Killing Jews at the end of times.
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Speaker 9: Now he's accused by the Executive Council of Australian Jury,
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Speaker 9: which is the country's peak Jewish group, of breaching the
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Speaker 9: Bilification Act by making comments that are reasonably likely to offend, insults, humiliate,
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Speaker 9: or intimidate Australian Jews.
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Speaker 8: So that's basically what it's.
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Speaker 3: All about and what happened in court today.
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Speaker 9: This is the first day of the trial and it
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Speaker 9: was a dramatic first day. First of all, with some
26:04
Speaker 9: Haddad appeared in person today. He arrived wearing the Palestinian kafia.
26:10
Speaker 9: He was less outspoken outside corp when he arrived and
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Speaker 9: when he left a bit later.
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Speaker 8: I was interested to see that he made.
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Speaker 9: A point of not standing or bowing for the judge
26:25
Speaker 9: at various points during today's hearing, which is custom. Everyone
26:29
Speaker 9: else in the room did so. He hasn't given his
26:33
Speaker 9: evidence yet, but we heard the opening statements from his
26:37
Speaker 9: defense and from the Jewish group's legal team, as well
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Speaker 9: as some of members of the Jewish community who gave evidence.
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Speaker 8: About what it was like to hear those speeches.
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Speaker 9: Basically in the statements we heard from Jewish leaders that
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Speaker 9: most Jews would have felt that his comments were dehumanizing
26:59
Speaker 9: and were anti Semitic.
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Speaker 8: But his barristers said this is not a case about.
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Speaker 9: Anti Semitism, and he said that Jews would have had
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Speaker 9: to deliberately go out of their way to seek the
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Speaker 9: sermons that mister Hadad gave because they were given to
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Speaker 9: a Muslim audience of some four hundred people at the
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Speaker 9: Southwest Sydney Center that he is a director of. In fact,
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Speaker 9: his barrister compared it to people with a prutish sensitivity
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Speaker 9: seeking out pornography online and then being offended by it.
27:33
Speaker 9: Here's some of the exchange that I had with mister
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Speaker 9: Haddad about what we heard in court, and also a
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Speaker 9: video that he posted to his Instagram page on the
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Speaker 9: eve of this trial, in which he vowed to fight
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Speaker 9: the Jewish lobby with everything he had and showed an image.
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Speaker 8: Of a sword to Hadad.
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Speaker 9: Do you accept your sermons by anti semitek your barrister said,
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Speaker 9: it's not a case about anti Semitism.
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Speaker 3: You have no comment this stage.
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Speaker 9: How are you feeling about taking the tomorrow? Do you
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Speaker 9: have anything else to say about the video that you
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Speaker 9: posted yesterday showing a sword?
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Speaker 3: You have no comment of the stage. Thank you.
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Speaker 9: Now, this is a four day trial and mister Haddad
28:13
Speaker 9: is expected to take this down tomorrow, so we will
28:16
Speaker 9: be able to hear more of how he personally is
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Speaker 9: defending this matter.
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Speaker 2: Then, well, has he given any notice you like, documents
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Speaker 2: to the cord in affter David's or whatever, about what
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Speaker 2: the nature of defense will be, because for me, it's
28:31
Speaker 2: really this is really intriguing because one tricky issue that
28:35
Speaker 2: will have to be dealt with. I believe is that
28:38
Speaker 2: when Hadad said a Jewish behind me, come kill him,
28:41
Speaker 2: he was actually quoting a sacred Islamic text, which means
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Speaker 2: suggests to me at least is being sued in that case,
28:48
Speaker 2: in that particular instance, for quoting his religion's holy books.
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Speaker 3: What has been said about that, if anything.
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Speaker 9: Well, that was referred to in the opening statement today,
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Speaker 9: and it is also part of the defense that has
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Speaker 9: been filed with a call which I've read in full, Andrew,
29:06
Speaker 9: and you're right, that is going to form a big
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Speaker 9: part of his defense here because he is arguing that
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Speaker 9: the sermons that he gave were derived in substance from
29:15
Speaker 9: a religious foundation.
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Speaker 8: Now, what's interesting is that there are going to be.
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Speaker 9: Two experts that are called on Islamic scripture, both for
29:26
Speaker 9: the Jewish group side and for the defense.
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Speaker 8: And the Jewish group has pointed out that both.
29:32
Speaker 9: Of these experts will say that there is nothing in
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Speaker 9: Islamic scripture which says that it's all right that endorses
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Speaker 9: stereotyping a group based on their race or ethnicity. Now
29:45
Speaker 9: we yet to hear that evidence at this stage, but
29:48
Speaker 9: certainly mister Haddad's case is that he is merely and
29:53
Speaker 9: at largely quoting from these texts.
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Speaker 2: That's a interesting twist to what the prosecutor of the
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Speaker 2: complainant's case.
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Speaker 3: My goodness. Well, anyway, there you go, Karen and Marcus.
30:09
Speaker 3: I am going to look very closely at how that bit.
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Speaker 2: Unwinds, and I might later consulted after the case, of course,
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Speaker 2: and an expert on the Quranic text myself, and see.
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Speaker 3: What he says. Kroenn Marcus, thank you so much indeed
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Speaker 3: for your time.
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Speaker 8: Thanks Andrew.
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Speaker 2: I know there was a mention of the Racial Vilification Act. We've,
30:33
Speaker 2: of course, we met the Racial Discrimination Act. And now
30:37
Speaker 2: after the break what you haven't been told how the
30:40
Speaker 2: violent rites for legal immigrants actually started. And you should
30:45
Speaker 2: stop blaming Donald Trump. It's hard to believe how much
30:54
Speaker 2: the American media left is trying to play down the
30:57
Speaker 2: extraordinary violence we've seen in Los Angeles since Friday, when
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Speaker 2: immigration officials arrested illegal immigrants and the local Democratic politicians
31:06
Speaker 2: summoned the mob to come confront them. Those officials came
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Speaker 2: under a vicious attack. I meant, times it looked like
31:12
Speaker 2: attempted murder, and at other times it looked like an
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Speaker 2: insurrection by foreign nationals flying the Mexican flag. Here are
31:20
Speaker 2: some examples of that coverage.
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Speaker 6: The La County Police say that they have it under control.
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Speaker 11: These agents are the ones provoking protesters and also making
31:33
Speaker 11: up aggression by these protesters, and later video shows people
31:38
Speaker 11: were not aggressive.
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Speaker 2: We are having an administration that's targeting peaceful protests.
31:43
Speaker 6: You know, you've heard reports that there are riots on
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Speaker 6: the streets of Los Angeles.
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Speaker 11: That is not what's happening across the city of Los Angeles.
31:49
Speaker 3: Covernation's right, there was anything like a riot happening.
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Speaker 6: I don't think the National Guard is needed now. Things
31:55
Speaker 6: in La are calm.
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Speaker 12: It's just a bunch of people having fun watching cars.
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Speaker 6: Most of those demonstrators were very peaceful.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't the media often seem like organized lying to you.
32:08
Speaker 2: California's Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom, he's now saying, is super
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Speaker 2: President Donald Trump sending the National Guard to control the rioting.
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Speaker 2: Trump in turn says his top border official Tom Homan
32:20
Speaker 2: could well arrest Newsom Gavin Newcomb did.
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Speaker 6: He's daring Tom Holman become an erector. Should he do it.
32:30
Speaker 6: I would do it to God, I did get.
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Speaker 2: Great joining me is Donald Trump's first White House spokesman,
32:37
Speaker 2: Sean Spicer. Sean Spicer, great to see you again, American
32:42
Speaker 2: flames again. How did this one start?
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Speaker 13: You know, Andrew, that's a fantastic question. You're probably the
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Speaker 13: only one in the media world that's asking that, because
32:53
Speaker 13: I went over this on my show today. Let me
32:56
Speaker 13: just take you down down the road here. On Saturday,
32:59
Speaker 13: there was a Democrat assemblyman from California and he saw
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Speaker 13: ICE agents going into their office into the Fenceton area
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Speaker 13: where they work. They were driving their trucks, et cetera.
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Speaker 13: And so he started to live stream it and said
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Speaker 13: to folks, come gather in this Paramount section of California
33:18
Speaker 13: that he represents, because something's got to be happening.
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Speaker 7: They're here on the corner at a business ab a
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Speaker 7: Landra It's called Paramount Business Center, right across from Paramount.
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Speaker 13: So hundreds of people came down to observe federal agents
33:34
Speaker 13: going to their place of work.
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Speaker 6: Okay, that's what started this.
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Speaker 13: He gathered people because he said it looks suspicious. Now
33:42
Speaker 13: I get why people in California think anyone working on
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Speaker 13: a Saturday is suspicious. But the bottom line is they
33:48
Speaker 13: were just going to their office. Yeah, and then what
33:50
Speaker 13: happened was as the gates opened in this area where
33:54
Speaker 13: they keep their trucks there, you know, for the ice agents.
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Speaker 13: As the gates open, they started to pelt the trucks
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Speaker 13: with rocks and they burned three cars on fire.
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Speaker 6: Now, so to be clear, when people talk about.
34:09
Speaker 13: The issue escalating, these individuals literally went to work, they
34:13
Speaker 13: went into their office and got into their cars, and
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Speaker 13: that's what precipitated all of this.
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Speaker 6: There was no action, there was no raid, there was
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Speaker 6: no roundup.
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Speaker 13: They literally went into the office in a Democratic assemblyman
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Speaker 13: from California got people all fired up because he assumed,
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Speaker 13: because it was a Saturday, something.
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Speaker 6: Must be going on. And their immediate reaction was basically.
34:36
Speaker 3: You're saying, he's salmmoned them all his Democrat act.
34:39
Speaker 6: He unleashed them, and then they threw rocks and lit
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Speaker 6: cars on fire.
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Speaker 2: Now, the media coverage since right and minimizing what's going on,
34:50
Speaker 2: blaming Donald Trump for provoking it. And I think you've
34:53
Speaker 2: just had a very good counter to that argument. But
34:56
Speaker 2: the media coverage in particular and that of some Democrats
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Speaker 2: to shills on the media, what do you make of it?
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Speaker 13: I mean, it's insane that Kamala Harrisk put her first
35:08
Speaker 13: comprehensive statement out since losing and she talked about our
35:11
Speaker 13: immigrant neighbors. It's insulting in it's gas lighting. I'm the
35:16
Speaker 13: grandson or great grandson of immigrants. Most people in this country,
35:19
Speaker 13: if you're not Native American, came from somewhere.
35:22
Speaker 6: There's a difference.
35:23
Speaker 13: So they want to use language that acts like this
35:25
Speaker 13: is some innocent group of people. They are in this
35:28
Speaker 13: country illegally. They are attacking federal agents. They are not
35:33
Speaker 13: our neighbors, are friends. I don't generally speaking, I don't
35:36
Speaker 13: know about you guys in Australia, but my neighbors. I
35:39
Speaker 13: don't throw stones at them. I don't light their cars
35:42
Speaker 13: on fire. They don't do that to me. Maybe that's
35:45
Speaker 13: just where I'm from, but generally speaking, that's not a
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Speaker 13: neighborly thing to do. And yet the Democrats want to
35:53
Speaker 13: think that we don't see this, that we don't see
35:55
Speaker 13: them waving Mexican flags, lighting things on fire, throwing at
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Speaker 13: federal agents. They don't think that we see this, and
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Speaker 13: they say it's mostly peaceful, it's contained, it's under control.
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Speaker 13: These are our immigrant neighbors. They are our friends without papers.
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Speaker 4: No.
36:10
Speaker 13: At the bottom line is every one of these people
36:13
Speaker 13: who Ice goes after is at the very least guilty
36:16
Speaker 13: of breaking the law when it comes to coming into
36:18
Speaker 13: our country illegally. Now many cases there's more laws that
36:22
Speaker 13: they've broken. But I don't know why Democrats continue to
36:26
Speaker 13: double down on stupid in this country.
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Speaker 2: I think part of the problem here, Sean, is that
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Speaker 2: California has defined US laws for years, calling itself a
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Speaker 2: sanctuary status, band its officials from cooperating with federal officials
36:42
Speaker 2: trying to enforce federal laws and illegal immigrants, when immigration
36:46
Speaker 2: is and should be a federal responsibility because what one
36:49
Speaker 2: state let's in the rest of the country inherits. So
36:53
Speaker 2: why does Donald Trump there want gavin you some charge?
36:57
Speaker 3: Is it over this?
36:59
Speaker 6: You know?
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Speaker 13: This is where I think you talk about the malpractice
37:03
Speaker 13: of the media here in the United States. There's an
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Speaker 13: issue that I've been bringing up for the last twenty
37:07
Speaker 13: four hours that hasn't gotten much attention. It's one thing
37:10
Speaker 13: if it's a local library in LA or a police
37:13
Speaker 13: station or a park, these are federal agents in federal property.
37:18
Speaker 13: Donald Trump doesn't just have a responsibility. In fact, he
37:21
Speaker 13: has an obligation to protect federal agents and federal property.
37:26
Speaker 13: What makes this instance so different, and I know our
37:29
Speaker 13: media doesn't want to talk about this, is it's one
37:31
Speaker 13: thing to nationalize the guard and we have a very
37:35
Speaker 13: interesting system here where you can be a state guardsman.
37:38
Speaker 13: They call it Title thirty two. You report to the
37:40
Speaker 13: governor or the federal government can call you up under
37:42
Speaker 13: Title ten. It's different US codes. But the bottom line
37:46
Speaker 13: is that there is no question, zero question, that the
37:50
Speaker 13: President of the United States must has the responsibility to
37:53
Speaker 13: protect federal agents in federal property.
37:55
Speaker 6: And when these individuals because most of them, I.
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Speaker 13: Don't know where citizens. The other thing they keep talking
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Speaker 13: about our citizens. From what I see the number of
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Speaker 13: people waving Mexican flags and saying, you know, f ice
38:07
Speaker 13: and do all the I don't.
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Speaker 6: Think there are citizens.
38:09
Speaker 13: But even if they are, Donald Trump has an obligation
38:12
Speaker 13: to protect federal agents and federal property, and that's what
38:15
Speaker 13: he's doing.
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Speaker 6: Had he not been doing that, he would be derelict
38:18
Speaker 6: in his duties.
38:20
Speaker 2: If it hadn't been for this eruption of violence in California,
38:24
Speaker 2: we would be probably talking about Donald Trump's big bus
38:28
Speaker 2: up with Elon Musk Eila Musk tweeting that the only
38:31
Speaker 2: reason the files hadn't been released of Jeffrey Epstein, the
38:36
Speaker 2: pedophile who's found dead in jail, is that Donald Trump's
38:40
Speaker 2: name would appear Musk. In turn, Musk has also said
38:44
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump should be impeached.
38:47
Speaker 3: Is the leaded those tweets.
38:48
Speaker 2: But this fallout between Trump and the richest man in
38:52
Speaker 2: the world who did so much to get Trump elected?
38:56
Speaker 3: How's that going?
38:56
Speaker 13: Now?
38:57
Speaker 3: What's happening here?
38:58
Speaker 6: Look, here's the way I look at this.
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Speaker 13: Elon I think didn't realize that he had overstayed his
39:02
Speaker 13: welcome when it came to tweeting at Donald Trump. These
39:05
Speaker 13: the people, the supporters in the MAGA movement are for
39:08
Speaker 13: Donald Trump, and he learned that the hard way.
39:10
Speaker 6: And I look at this Andrew like two bros.
39:15
Speaker 13: Two guys who had a little fight, who are never
39:18
Speaker 13: going to apologize, but kind of have gone back to
39:20
Speaker 13: their own corners quietly, you know, want to take the
39:23
Speaker 13: temperature down. And a year from now we'll see each
39:25
Speaker 13: other at a barbecue and just going to go, hey man,
39:28
Speaker 13: good to see you, and then walk away again. I
39:31
Speaker 13: don't know that the relationship ever would be back in
39:33
Speaker 13: Trump world, it's never over until you die. I mean,
39:36
Speaker 13: there are so many people whose political career has been
39:39
Speaker 13: resurrected after going after Donald Trump.
39:41
Speaker 6: So I never say never. We're at a good place.
39:44
Speaker 6: You know.
39:45
Speaker 13: We're not going to be hanging out of each other's houses,
39:47
Speaker 13: We're not going to exchange Christmas cards. But I think
39:49
Speaker 13: we're at a daytonte that'll last for a while.
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Speaker 3: Sure, and Spicer, great to talk to you. Thank you
39:56
Speaker 3: so much for your time.
39:58
Speaker 6: You had as always, Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Is Josh Fredberg heading back to Canberra is to resting
40:05
Speaker 2: signs in Coyong, plus dramatic news from the ABC Just Broke.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi has complained to the Trump administration about police
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Speaker 2: in the Los Angeles riots hitting Channel known reporter Lauren
40:21
Speaker 2: to Marsi with a rubber bullet. The Prime Minister said
40:36
Speaker 2: today you thought police shot to Marsie deliberately.
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Speaker 6: That footage was horrific.
40:41
Speaker 4: That was the footage of an Australian journalist doing what
40:46
Speaker 4: journalists do at their very best, at their very best,
40:50
Speaker 4: which is to go into an environment that's not comfortable.
40:55
Speaker 4: But where in la it is not unreasonable to think
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Speaker 4: that she would not have been targeted with a rubber bullet.
41:03
Speaker 4: So we have already raised these issues with the US administration.
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Speaker 1: Said targeted was that how it was raised by the
41:12
Speaker 1: Australian government that she was seemingly targeted.
41:14
Speaker 4: By police or she was clearly identified, was clearly identified?
41:20
Speaker 4: You know, there's no ambiguity.
41:23
Speaker 2: I'm joined Bob will Kingston, host at Will, the podcast
41:27
Speaker 2: from The Spectator on politics and culture, and scone News
41:30
Speaker 2: commentator Joe Hildebrand. I will Albany is he didn't act
41:35
Speaker 2: that fast than publicly when the Chinese Navy deliberately hurt
41:38
Speaker 2: Australian navy divers with his sonar eighteen months ago. But
41:42
Speaker 2: is he right to at least protests about the Americans now.
41:47
Speaker 14: Well, I don't think he has much of a choice, Andrew.
41:49
Speaker 14: When an Australian journalist gets shot by American cop, it's
41:53
Speaker 14: not necessarily something you could let go through to the keeper.
41:56
Speaker 14: That's an Australian politician. And you know, I'm all for
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Speaker 14: first on this show, and I think this is a
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Speaker 14: first on this show. I'm completely with Albo on this one.
42:05
Speaker 14: It did look pretty unambiguous. It did look like the
42:07
Speaker 14: cop lineder up and shot her. I would make a
42:10
Speaker 14: distinction between one police officer and the Californian Police Force
42:15
Speaker 14: more generally. But I think Albanesi's absolutely right in raising
42:19
Speaker 14: this with the relevant people in the US because it
42:21
Speaker 14: does look like a pretty pull attack on a journalist,
42:26
Speaker 14: which was which in my view, was deliberate.
42:30
Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand that policemen seemed too far from a very
42:33
Speaker 2: close range, and I tend to go with will and
42:37
Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: It did seem to me deliberate.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, either it was deliberate or that guy is the
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Speaker 12: worst shot in the history of US law enforcement and
42:48
Speaker 12: probably shouldn't be carrying a firearm. It was at the
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Speaker 12: very least, I mean, even if we had to believe
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Speaker 12: that there was some kind of target, a legitimate target
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Speaker 12: behind and Laura that I mean, it defies credibility. It's
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Speaker 12: difficult to even say with a straight face. But the
43:06
Speaker 12: fact that he fired when she was clearly in the
43:08
Speaker 12: line of fire, herself evidently in the line of fire,
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Speaker 12: and appeared to turn around and actually go after her deliberately,
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Speaker 12: I think it's absolutely disgraceful and albo is absolutely right
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Speaker 12: to raise it. I find it actually quite baffling and
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Speaker 12: creepy that it happened.
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Speaker 2: In fact, the cameraman panned behind her, you know, as
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Speaker 2: he turned in shock or whatever. And I didn't see
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Speaker 2: anything behind him to suggest that that was a legitimate
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Speaker 2: target either. Interesting gossip today, Will and Now I former
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Speaker 2: Federal Treasurer Josh Fredenberg Jackie Blackwell is running to be
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Speaker 2: chairman next Monday of the Federal electoral committee of his
43:45
Speaker 2: former seat of QIONG, now held by till independent Monique Ryan.
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Speaker 2: I think it's now unopposed after Emilia Haimer dropped out.
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Speaker 2: This strongly suggests to me that Fredenberg is continuing considering
43:58
Speaker 2: a return to politics, although obviously it's not committing to
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Speaker 2: anything anytime soon. Do you think the Federal Liberals need
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Speaker 2: him back?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 14: I think they need all of the talented people they
44:11
Speaker 14: can get. There's an interesting question as to why he
44:13
Speaker 14: would want to come back at the moment. Andrew and
44:16
Speaker 14: I would see this idea with people like Josh Frodenberg.
44:19
Speaker 14: And I had this conversation with Joe on the Late
44:22
Speaker 14: Debate a couple of weeks ago. I'm increasingly of the
44:25
Speaker 14: view that the broad Church is no longer viable in
44:28
Speaker 14: modern Australian politics that mixture of social conservatives and classical liberals.
44:34
Speaker 14: I think there is a lane for a new right
44:37
Speaker 14: wing party in Australia. I think someone like a Josh
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Speaker 14: Fredenberg would actually be a very interesting person to be
44:43
Speaker 14: involved in a movement like that. There is obviously some
44:46
Speaker 14: work that would need to be done in trying to
44:48
Speaker 14: unite the grab bag of minor parties on the right
44:51
Speaker 14: in Australia, but for someone like Fredenberg, that would actually
44:55
Speaker 14: be a very interesting alternative for me. That's what I
44:57
Speaker 14: would be thinking of I as and issues.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're not dreaming that he'd be a
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Speaker 2: right wing leader, because they don't think in that too much.
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Speaker 3: Joe, what do you think?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I actually think that Josh Fredenberger is probably the
45:12
Speaker 12: only figure who can unite the broad Church as it was,
45:16
Speaker 12: and as John Howard described it, he's someone who I
45:18
Speaker 12: think both moderates and the center right faction of which
45:22
Speaker 12: is a part or the National right, they respect him.
45:26
Speaker 12: They both respect him, but they can both live with him.
45:29
Speaker 12: He's seen, I think as having good conservative credentials but
45:32
Speaker 12: not being too far the right. And I would imagine
45:35
Speaker 12: that given that Nick Ryan almost lost her seat with
45:39
Speaker 12: Peter Dutton as leader. I would think if Susan Leigh
45:42
Speaker 12: makes it all the way to twenty twenty eight, she
45:44
Speaker 12: would be in real trouble. And I woul dare say
45:46
Speaker 12: you could put the house on her losing if it
45:48
Speaker 12: was Friedenberg himself who ran against her. And I think
45:51
Speaker 12: for all of those reasons, you know, revenge a possible
45:54
Speaker 12: tilt at the prime ministership. I imagine he be handed
45:57
Speaker 12: the leadership on a platter as soon as he re
45:59
Speaker 12: entered the plament. I think that's very difficult for anyone
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Speaker 12: of Josh's talent and ambition to say no to.
46:08
Speaker 14: This.
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Speaker 2: Seems to me will that left wing opinion shows are
46:14
Speaker 2: falling like flies around us? Something the other day or
46:18
Speaker 2: just I think it was this this week yesterday. I
46:20
Speaker 2: think it was the project on Channel ten gone. The
46:25
Speaker 2: Ciney Morning Herald's now reporting that long running ABC program
46:28
Speaker 2: Q and A, which has always been a left wing.
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Speaker 3: Stack, is about to be axed. My goodness, what's going on?
46:36
Speaker 3: Do you think.
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Speaker 14: It's morning again in Australian media?
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Speaker 6: Andrew, what a week? And look it is.
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Speaker 14: It is a shame about Q and A because you're right,
46:46
Speaker 14: it is, you know, just left wing partisan hackery. But
46:49
Speaker 14: the concept is really good and the idea of having
46:52
Speaker 14: debates on important issues, bringing together you know, people from
46:55
Speaker 14: the left and the right, which is I think what
46:57
Speaker 14: it was meant to be before it just got ideologically captured,
47:00
Speaker 14: is a really noble ambition. So I think, you know,
47:02
Speaker 14: the actual concept, I hope is something that we see
47:05
Speaker 14: more of in Australian media. I'm not hopeful, but unfortunately
47:09
Speaker 14: that is not what the show ended up as. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh no.
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Speaker 3: When I went on there back in the day, I
47:15
Speaker 3: mean I was totally set up. I mean I got
47:17
Speaker 3: out of it and laughed, but you know, I.
47:20
Speaker 2: Was the one conservative and then lined up a climate
47:24
Speaker 2: scientists in the audience to try and ask me to
47:26
Speaker 2: trying to get me on two different questions. I mean,
47:28
Speaker 2: it's really ridiculous he failed. But I mean the bad
47:32
Speaker 2: faith was so clear there. What do you make of it, Joe,
47:36
Speaker 2: You're going to be weeping tears?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, I mean I don't like to say any
47:42
Speaker 12: show go under, but the truth is that the left
47:44
Speaker 12: killed Q and A. The left killed it on a
47:46
Speaker 12: number of levels. One was, as you say, I think,
47:49
Speaker 12: despite all the best intentions a lot of the people
47:52
Speaker 12: who were lining up the guests would see the panel
47:55
Speaker 12: as being balanced, whereas people on the right, conservatives would say,
47:58
Speaker 12: what are you talking about. Famous example is when an
48:02
Speaker 12: ultra conservative rabbi from New York I had to pull
48:05
Speaker 12: out at the last minute and they put me on.
48:07
Speaker 12: They asked if I could go on in his place,
48:09
Speaker 12: and I said, you do realize you've replaced a Jewish
48:12
Speaker 12: conservative with a labor voting Catholic. You do know that
48:15
Speaker 12: we're not but they I think they actually probably thought.
48:17
Speaker 3: That I was a Jewish Conservative.
48:19
Speaker 12: So I think that is the problem. You've got all
48:21
Speaker 12: these crazy lefties who actually think Q and A has
48:24
Speaker 12: gone too far to the right.
48:25
Speaker 3: If you could believe that.
48:28
Speaker 2: This is just extraordinary, the booze alone would tell you
48:31
Speaker 2: where the audience was on that just some very quickly
48:35
Speaker 2: ten seconds credit Tamberg. Will what does she achieve getting
48:38
Speaker 2: yourself arrested by the Israelis.
48:43
Speaker 6: Not much.
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Speaker 14: She obviously missed her opportunity at yacht Leak as a teenager,
48:46
Speaker 14: and so this was her chance to get a Mediterranean
48:50
Speaker 14: cruise holiday. And I think that's the extent of it.
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Speaker 3: Will Kingston, Joe Hildebrand lovely to talk to you both.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. That's it for me, Sherry Marks
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Speaker 3: and up next. Good Night,