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Speaker 1: I don't get it. So Angus Taylor has seen Anthony
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Speaker 1: Albanizi being bashed all day in the media for his
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Speaker 1: address to the nation last night, and Taylor says, I'll
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Speaker 1: have some of that. I'll do an address to the
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Speaker 1: nation as well. Genius stuff. They only resounded so nervous.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bolt Report, by the way, So what
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Speaker 1: you just heard was the second address to the nation,
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Speaker 1: the number the Opposition leader, Angus Taylor, And like Albanese's
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Speaker 1: last night, again like it's like any one of these
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Speaker 1: guys press conferences that you normally wouldn't bother listening to,
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Speaker 1: he said, this time it's stop everything. This is an
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Speaker 1: address to the nation, so it's very important. Except like Albanese's,
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Speaker 1: this was basically a waste of space. It's just politiicing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, where is the vision these days? Where's the imagination?
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Speaker 1: To be fair, the opposition leader there did do one
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Speaker 1: thing and that speech that the promise that last night
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Speaker 1: did not do. In his Taylor did talk about how
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Speaker 1: we can never let this mess happen again. And it
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Speaker 1: is pathetic, isn't it that here we are sitting on
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Speaker 1: oceans of our own oil, but still needing rescuing by
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Speaker 1: tankers from the Middle Eastern Asia ruined if they don't
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Speaker 1: come with our petrol and diesel. So good and Taylor
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Speaker 1: for saying, you know, you know, we need to fast
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Speaker 1: track exploration and projects around the country, that we must
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Speaker 1: dig and we must drill. He could have said drill, baby, drill,
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Speaker 1: But people said, oh, you'd begin that Donald Trump, And
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Speaker 1: that's the message. But what changes would he actually make?
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Speaker 1: What does he demand to make that vision happen? Didn't say.
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Speaker 1: I think Taylor should have told her something concrete, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, he'll build bigger storages for bigger fuels, or
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Speaker 1: to fund the environmental defender's officer that tries to stop
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Speaker 1: gas and oil and coal projects, or will scrap the
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Speaker 1: Paris Agreement. This is no to fossil fuels, or a
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Speaker 1: slash green tape or cut some of the heritage laws
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Speaker 1: that have mining projects stopped or challenged on religious grounds,
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Speaker 1: you know, rainbow serpents or whatever. Or how about simply
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Speaker 1: demanding that we send assets to help clear the straight
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Speaker 1: up one was get the all going again. Now. I
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Speaker 1: don't want soundbites anymore. I don't want more politics, I
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Speaker 1: want plans, I want engineering, and what I particularly want
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Speaker 1: is that they stop treating us like kids and started
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Speaker 1: treating a strands like adults. More later with Barnaby Joyce. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but they're all at it. By the way, today was
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Speaker 1: also Donald Trump's turn to address the nation his nation.
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Speaker 1: Like Anthony Abenese's, there's nothing new in his speech. Unlike
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Speaker 1: aben Eazy's, though it was still hugely important for what
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Speaker 1: it's stressed and even more what it left out. You see,
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Speaker 1: for weeks, I have watched thousands of Trump haters, politicians
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Speaker 1: and journalists and commentators go. You know, Trump's never told
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Speaker 1: us what its objectives are in this war. He's never
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Speaker 1: said when this forever war will end. He's never said
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Speaker 1: what his off ramp is, his exit strategy. And really
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Speaker 1: that's all been either unforgiven of ignorance or deliberate deceit
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Speaker 1: by people wishing Trump to fail, even if that does
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Speaker 1: mean one of the world's most savage Islam's regime survives.
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Speaker 1: So given that, I thought that repeating himself in this
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Speaker 1: case was essential, And you will now know this is
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Speaker 1: one benefit that any journalist keeps bleeding about forever wars
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Speaker 1: and no clear objectives. They're frauds or and they're unprofessional,
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Speaker 1: they're incompetent. Now, it's true that Trump didn't speak well.
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Speaker 1: He never speaks well when he tries to stick to
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Speaker 1: a script. But the objectives that he repeated today for
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Speaker 1: this war are the same that he outlined on day
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Speaker 1: one of it.
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Speaker 2: Our objectives are very simple and clear. We are systematically
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Speaker 2: dismantling the regime's ability to threaten America or project power
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Speaker 2: outside of their borders.
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Speaker 1: And that of course includes destroying Around's nuclear weapons program.
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Speaker 1: It's sponsoring a terrorist armies, it's building of a missile
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Speaker 1: arsenal that's too big for anti missile defenses to shoot down.
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Speaker 1: All those things. And despite what you've heard from journalists,
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Speaker 1: even from our own Prime minister, can you believe it
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Speaker 1: never was about regime change. That was just a plus,
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Speaker 1: a goody, good to have. It wasn't an objective. It
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Speaker 1: was a lie to set Trump up for failure, That's
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Speaker 1: what it was. It was a lie to make him feel, Oh, look,
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Speaker 1: he didn't get a change in the regime, even though
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Speaker 1: by the way he is now communicating with new Iranian leaders.
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Speaker 2: Thanks to the progress we've made, can say tonight that
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Speaker 2: we are on track to complete all of America's military
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Speaker 2: objectives shortly, very shortly. We're going to hit them extremely
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Speaker 2: hard over the next two to three weeks. We're going
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Speaker 2: to bring them back to the Stone ages where they belong.
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Speaker 2: In the meantime, discussions are ongoing. Regime change was not
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Speaker 2: our goal. We never said regime change. But regime change
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Speaker 2: has occurred because of all of their original leader's death.
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Speaker 2: They're all dead.
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Speaker 1: So already the US and Israel are making progress, not
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Speaker 1: just military progress. That's been brilliant. And as for the saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: what's the off friend Dix's strategy, well that's simple. It's simply.
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Speaker 1: You know, when they finished flying the bombs back home,
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Speaker 1: say the US Navy back support, once arounds, military powers
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Speaker 1: smash for years to come. How does that? And as
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Speaker 1: for forever were in fact, Trump always said this war
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Speaker 1: will take four to six weeks. Now says will be
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Speaker 1: six seven. You know, he's saying two or three weeks
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Speaker 1: from now six to seven unless regime caves first. And
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Speaker 1: in fact, what he didn't say, and what you don't
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Speaker 1: read in our media here is that the Persian base
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Speaker 1: of around International Media Organization, which is based in London,
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Speaker 1: it for instance, reports of the Iranian President's now so
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Speaker 1: worried that Run's economy could collapse in three weeks or four.
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Speaker 1: That has told the new commander of the Revolutionary Guard
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Speaker 1: Corps they're the hard guys with the guns, Ahmed Vahedi,
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Speaker 1: to ask for a cease fire and to hand back
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Speaker 1: control of the Iranian governments of civilian authorities, not to
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Speaker 1: the mullers. Get it out of the mullers, back to
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Speaker 1: elected people, meaning in this case the president and the parliament.
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Speaker 1: Now Wahdi, like I say he's got the guns, is
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Speaker 1: so far refused, So we don't know where that's all going.
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Speaker 1: Israeli media otherwise also reporting these signs of cracks. Now
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Speaker 1: Trump is exaggerated to say, you know they are in
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Speaker 1: negotiations with the president or the speaker of parliament. There
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Speaker 1: is definitely communications. The Foreign Minister has admitted as much.
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Speaker 2: If there is no deal, we are going to hit
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Speaker 2: each and every one of their electric generating plants very
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Speaker 2: hard and probably simultaneously.
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Speaker 1: Now that was another bluff. That was another bluff. It
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Speaker 1: would in fact be stupid for the US to hurt
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Speaker 1: the Iranian civilians and switch them from wanting the regime
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Speaker 1: to fall into railing behind it, right, But can we
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Speaker 1: get some perspective here? A terrace regime which is murdered
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Speaker 1: Jews around the world, even in Argentina, murdered American soldiers
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Speaker 1: in Lebanon. How did terrorist attacks here rain missiles in
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Speaker 1: Israel murdered thousands of his own civilians. It is now
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Speaker 1: being dismantled as a threat, and it's all being done
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Speaker 1: in a matter of weeks with and this bit's astonishing.
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Speaker 1: Just thirteen American soldiers did so, just thirteen people say, oh,
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Speaker 1: you didn't expect the round of fate that hard. I
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Speaker 1: bet you. No American planner of this war thought that
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Speaker 1: lose only thirteen soldiers a month in Even our Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister today had to admit in a speech of the
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Speaker 1: National Press Club, the far from this war being yeah,
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Speaker 1: another American disaster like you hear every day in the
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Speaker 1: nine newspapers, it had actually gone very well, and even
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Speaker 1: praise the results. He praised the results.
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Speaker 3: We did express support for the original objectives preventing Iran
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Speaker 3: from ever obtaining a nuclear weapon and degrading its capacity
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Speaker 3: to endanger its neighbors, despite its indiscriminate attacks across the region,
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Speaker 3: Iran's air force is degraded, its navy is degraded, its
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Speaker 3: military industrial base is degraded, and so too is its
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Speaker 3: capacity to launch missiles. That is a good thing. And
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Speaker 3: now those objectives have been realized. Is not clear what
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Speaker 3: more needs to be achieved.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not clear to our Prime minister what more
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Speaker 1: needs to be done, because the Americans of Israeli bother
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Speaker 1: showing him that the intelligence they're using, the targets have
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Speaker 1: still got to hit right. This is a guy who
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Speaker 1: praises the results without wishing the means to do it. Now,
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Speaker 1: you can complain about some of the ways Trump has
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Speaker 1: behaved in this war. He's been rude to his allies
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Speaker 1: and he has which has been I think monumentally stupid.
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Speaker 1: He needs them, he didn't consult them first, and that's
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Speaker 1: also true. Mind you, you tell me one country that
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Speaker 1: would have then said, oh, now that we're consulted, we're
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Speaker 1: going to help Australia. And of course Trump makes wild
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Speaker 1: threats and exaggerated claims and all that's true as well.
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Speaker 1: Now I don't like it, that's not my style, but
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Speaker 1: then again, I am not a wartime leader who's trying
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Speaker 1: to shorten this war by bluffing and confusing and frightening
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Speaker 1: his enemies. You know, do what I say or else.
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Speaker 1: So what Trump said today was important because it brought
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Speaker 1: clarity to something that's increasingly being buried under the lives
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Speaker 1: of his critics. But what I said that, I also
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Speaker 1: said that what he didn't say today was also important.
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Speaker 1: And Trump did not say, for instance, oh, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sending soldiers into Iran. That's Trump always keeping options wide open,
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Speaker 1: sucking the enemy. And if soldiers are sent in, I
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Speaker 1: would suspect it to be for a quick in and
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Speaker 1: out operation, not an occupation. He also didn't repeat threats
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Speaker 1: and our changement viewed the war if the opposite happens.
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Speaker 1: But Trump also didn't repeat threats that he might quit NATO,
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Speaker 1: the Mutual Defense Alliance with Europe, as has been hinting
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Speaker 1: for a few days now, and I'm glad he didn't
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Speaker 1: do that because that would actually be dangerous. But he
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Speaker 1: did repeat his taunt that he could leave Iran, leave
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Speaker 1: this war without clearing the strait from Muz, without making
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Speaker 1: it say, from Iranian missiles and drones, to let the
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Speaker 1: oil flow again. The thing is, you know, but why
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Speaker 1: should he when the US doesn't need that oil for itself.
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Speaker 2: The countries of the world that do receive oil through
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Speaker 2: the hormone strait must take care of that passage. They
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Speaker 2: must cherish it. They must grab it and cherish it.
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Speaker 2: They can do it easily. We will be helpful, but
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Speaker 2: they should take the lead in protecting the earl that
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Speaker 2: they so desperately.
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Speaker 1: Depend on build up. Some delayed courage.
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Speaker 2: Should have done it before, should have done it with
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Speaker 2: us as we asked, go to the street and just
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Speaker 2: take it.
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Speaker 1: Would be good for Europe to now pullt sipat and
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Speaker 1: do that part of the job. And in fact, they'd
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Speaker 1: be more likely that the Iranians will stop shooting if
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Speaker 1: the Americans aren't involved. So I thought this was a
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Speaker 1: speech that it little knew, but it had to be made.
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Speaker 1: Trump has a job to do, and those who claim
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Speaker 1: to chicken out are wrong again. He is seeing this through.
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Speaker 1: They've got to come back to the Prime Minister's extraordinary
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Speaker 1: address to the nation last night as an extraordinarily bad
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Speaker 1: because it associated up to the ABC for one now,
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Speaker 1: I said last night that Albanez he had wasted three
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Speaker 1: and a half minutes of the nation's primetime attention and
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Speaker 1: scared them. You know, oh, what's he going to say?
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Speaker 1: It must be really big by telling them nothing at
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Speaker 1: all in the end except that he was doing a
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Speaker 1: wonderful job and in this petrol crisis whenever he Australian
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Speaker 1: and their dog can see that service stations are actually
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Speaker 1: without petrol or diesel, and the criticim in the papers
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Speaker 1: and on radio today. Look, it was brutal. Even the
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Speaker 1: left wing nine news papers weren't impressed, and so was
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Speaker 1: the normally labor friendly Press Club very unimpressed when Albanezi
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Speaker 1: turned up today. Now, in a fuel crisis that's threatening
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Speaker 1: the economy, you've laid out a fairly cogent case for that.
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Speaker 1: So two things. Why no detail in that address last night? White?
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Speaker 1: Just a group hug Prime Minister.
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Speaker 4: We talked the streets this morning and one construction worker
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Speaker 4: said he thought your address.
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Speaker 5: To the nation last night was a load of rubbish.
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Speaker 4: I just wanted to refer you to a comment that
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Speaker 4: was left under your video on Facebook last night that
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Speaker 4: has about two thousand and sevens.
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Speaker 3: Always a mistake, never read the comments.
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Speaker 4: I think this one taps into the national mood. If
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Speaker 4: you'll allow me, Hello, Prime Minister, please reserve addresses to
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Speaker 4: the nation for things of importance, such as a declaration
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Speaker 4: of war, an announcement of a pandemic, or lockdowns, or
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Speaker 4: something of national significance. Reassurance for the public can be
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Speaker 4: done as a social media campaign or press conference. Being
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Speaker 4: told hours in advance that our national leader is going
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Speaker 4: to address us on our television sets at a predetermined
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Speaker 4: time slot can cause a lot of anxiety for people,
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Speaker 4: thinking that it's going to be something dire. For eight
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Speaker 4: hours yesterday we heard people were going out to the
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Speaker 4: bowser fearing fuel rationing, preparing to work from home. There
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Speaker 4: was a lot of anxiety in the community in that
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Speaker 4: eight hour window. Do you accept that in trying to
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Speaker 4: quell fears and calm people down, it did inadvertently cause
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Speaker 4: some panic.
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Speaker 3: I spoke to your editor, as I spoke to every
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Speaker 3: editor yesterday afternoon. We had myself and Chris Bowen had
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Speaker 3: a off the record briefing about what we were doing,
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Speaker 3: what the context was. We continue to and that was
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Speaker 3: very constructive.
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Speaker 1: You see the problem of the editor. Oh we talked
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Speaker 1: to our editor. Oh that's okay. Then you know he
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Speaker 1: didn't talk to you, but he talked to our editor,
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Speaker 1: So why are you panicking? But if there's one media
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Speaker 1: organization taxpayer funded of course, that Albanizer can always count on,
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Speaker 1: it is the ABC which loves him still, or at
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Speaker 1: least they do. It is its most left wing outpost,
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Speaker 1: which is Melbourne Radio loved he is both the presenters
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Speaker 1: and the morning audience that those presenters have cultivated with
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Speaker 1: our money.
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Speaker 6: What I don't think it was a fizzer Worth mentioning
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Speaker 6: the breakfast verdict was with Bob and Rachelle like something
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Speaker 6: close to eighty percent of people were assured and not
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Speaker 6: alarmed by what the PM said last night.
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Speaker 1: Ah, there's the ABC over here and everyone else over
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Speaker 1: there joining me is our Tuesday Thursday regular commentator Baaby Joyce,
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Speaker 1: the former Deputy Prime Minister and now One Nation MP.
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Speaker 1: Baaby a perfect example of the ABC, you know, little
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Speaker 1: microcosm over there. But let's start with Angle Taylor's Angus
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Speaker 1: Taylor's addressed to the Nation thoughts.
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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, both of these speeches should have been
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Speaker 7: finished with. And I am Ron Burgundy, you know it
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Speaker 7: is the anchor man on steroids. Well look, I don't
15:38
Speaker 7: want to hear from here unless we're being attacked by martians. Right,
15:41
Speaker 7: it's this is what they've got, This big building down
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Speaker 7: camera called Parliament House. There's all sorts of speaking spots,
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Speaker 7: ninety second statements, five minutes statements. Gosh, the Prime minist
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Speaker 7: can bang on for twenty minutes if he wants. And
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Speaker 7: he did, right. We all thought, hell, there's something on here.
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Speaker 7: Here we go and he got to the end and
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Speaker 7: go and and and and that's it. And what there's
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Speaker 7: five minutes in my life. I'll never get back again.
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Speaker 7: And parol Angus gets out the night and go, oh
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Speaker 7: please don't double up and listen to it and go Na,
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Speaker 7: He's done it.
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Speaker 1: This is how does it work? So Angus alban Easy
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Speaker 1: is virtually blast stage smashed all over the country, and
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Speaker 1: Angus Taylor sits here and says, I want to do
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Speaker 1: that too.
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Speaker 7: I don't think, and I excuse myself. I'm in the
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Speaker 7: I got caught on the wrong side down and I
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Speaker 7: couldn't get back to get my coat and my tie.
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Speaker 1: So I'm dressed. I'm dressed for working. Dangle in Sydney.
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Speaker 7: There's Blake could Ray. He's driving a bus. He has
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Speaker 7: more ear rings than Nick VICKI has rings in his ears,
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Speaker 7: and he jumps off the bus and says to me,
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Speaker 7: what the hell was that? And he was talking about
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Speaker 7: mister Alberaneze's speech you go and so good Australia, and
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Speaker 7: mums and dads and working men and women thought, oh shit, better,
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Speaker 7: you know, make myself a cup of coco and watch this.
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Speaker 7: And then they go, what what what was that? And
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Speaker 7: then poor old angus, well, maybe his speech should have
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Speaker 7: been I'm going to give you back three minutes of
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Speaker 7: your life.
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Speaker 1: Good night.
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Speaker 7: You know, that would have at least we're gonna laugh,
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Speaker 7: you know, and you know, we could have done things
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Speaker 7: they should have said. We're appealing all the climate change legislation.
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Speaker 7: The Climate Change Department has gone. From now on, the
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Speaker 7: oil refineries will be out of the safeguard mechanism, which
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Speaker 7: is a load of rubbish in any case. In fact,
17:33
Speaker 7: the safeguard mechanism should have gone. You know how we've
17:36
Speaker 7: got all those rules that we've put aside for into
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Speaker 7: bitter powers so they can put up their winter howls
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Speaker 7: and the solar panels. We should put those rules back.
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Speaker 7: But we're going to do We're going to do exactly
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Speaker 7: the same that as that to build oil refineries and
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Speaker 7: to a very least to build storage facilities all those
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Speaker 7: parts of Australia where we said it's illegal to drill
17:53
Speaker 7: here except you know, keep the Great Barrier refree and
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Speaker 7: the Antarctic free. But the golf of Carpentry, the Great
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Speaker 7: Australi you buy it, Tharu. Those laws are gone. You
18:02
Speaker 7: go in there. If you don't say, drill, baby, drill, go,
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Speaker 7: I don't know, drill, billy, drill, do whatever you like,
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Speaker 7: but just get going and start extracting this material because
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Speaker 7: Taiwan is coming, Andrew, and this scene is going to
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Speaker 7: pay into significance because then there's not only no supply in,
18:21
Speaker 7: it's no product out and we've got no plan.
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Speaker 1: I look, it may not happen, train and may not,
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Speaker 1: but the point is, yeah, but the point is, why
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Speaker 1: would you bet the whole country, the entire economy, on
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Speaker 1: that not happening. It's got crazy. Actually, you've got to
18:38
Speaker 1: prepare for the worst. I mean, this is just crazy. Look,
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister must have felt this thing today, of
18:43
Speaker 1: all this criticism. You know, you didn't announce any of you.
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Speaker 7: Did look a bit he did indeed headlights that one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well then when he gives his speech of the
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Speaker 1: press countries, he makes fewer than three announcements, As you know,
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Speaker 1: it's best to make one in one speech, not three.
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Speaker 1: Otherwise people just ignore the other two and report just
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Speaker 1: one if they do it at all. But one was
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Speaker 1: the state's agreed to give back the extra ge tea
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Speaker 1: they've earned from the high fuel prices. That's about nearly
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Speaker 1: six cents more or elita on top of the cut
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Speaker 1: of fuel exoys. I just wonder that baby cheaper making
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Speaker 1: petrol cheaper. I know it's very high, but it's not
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Speaker 1: the right signal to send when we may be running
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Speaker 1: out of it.
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Speaker 7: And look, yeah, look, the whole point is that the
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Speaker 7: supply and demand is a real thing, and what we
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Speaker 7: have is a reaction in price to restriction on supply,
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Speaker 7: and that is that. And people say, oh, we've got
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Speaker 7: more fuel than we've ever had before, were than the
19:44
Speaker 7: price should be lower than it's ever been before. So
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Speaker 7: that the market is not a fool, it's reading into it.
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Speaker 7: And what we've got now is we continue to have
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Speaker 7: areas of Australia that do not have fuel. And what
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Speaker 7: we are not filtering through is this is coming, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, answering the question, Barnaby, I know it's a tough one.
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Speaker 1: If you want to sell more fuel, you make the
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Speaker 1: price lower. We don't want to sell more.
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Speaker 7: Fear well, if this is the issue, okay, I better
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Speaker 7: say the price is not going to go lower. And
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Speaker 7: even when you know this matter of this matter of
20:13
Speaker 7: what's happening in cutting the excise right now, you can't
20:18
Speaker 7: they not didn't cut it for the stock that's already
20:20
Speaker 7: on hold. So every service station will say no, no,
20:22
Speaker 7: I'm selling something I already bought.
20:24
Speaker 1: It's I think they've better be honest because the fines
20:27
Speaker 1: are so big. I'm going to say it's not going
20:29
Speaker 1: to marriage for it. But Barnaby, I noticed you dodged again.
20:32
Speaker 1: G you're clever, but you dodge the nub there. I'm worried.
20:37
Speaker 7: I'm worried about what's going to happen to food and
20:38
Speaker 7: food security is the big issue on this one, because
20:41
Speaker 7: those prices do not sustain proper supply.
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Speaker 1: Barnaby, Joyce, always great to talk to you. Thank you
20:47
Speaker 1: so much every grade. It's the break, by the way,
20:49
Speaker 1: after the break. The fastest way to fix this fuel
20:51
Speaker 1: crisis would actually be to clear the straight up from
20:54
Speaker 1: was from missile strones and manes. How hard is that.
20:57
Speaker 1: I'll talk to Rear Admiral and knows exactly what we
21:00
Speaker 1: must do. We're facing the world of pain because he
21:05
Speaker 1: Ran is firing missiles and drones that ships carrying all
21:08
Speaker 1: and gas from the Persian Gulf. There's even threats of
21:11
Speaker 1: sea moones and it's doing this, especially where the Gulf
21:15
Speaker 1: narrows at the straight up Foremus. But Trump this morning
21:17
Speaker 1: again made clear he was not going to clear that
21:21
Speaker 1: straight for US. In fact, Britain is now called an
21:24
Speaker 1: online meeting tonight of thirty five countries, not including the US,
21:28
Speaker 1: to decide what they can do to make the straits
21:31
Speaker 1: safer for tankers as straight as part of that, although
21:34
Speaker 1: defensiveents of Richard Marles this morning wasn't clear on what
21:37
Speaker 1: practical military help we could or would offer.
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Speaker 8: But there's a meeting tonight or meeting in the next
21:43
Speaker 8: twenty four hours to discuss what can be done. We
21:48
Speaker 8: have signed on to those statements that we did from
21:52
Speaker 8: the outset. Clearly we have an interest in the straits
21:55
Speaker 8: of hormones being open. It is a function of when
21:58
Speaker 8: conditions allow any of these steps to take place on
22:00
Speaker 8: those conditions don't exist right now, but we'll continue to
22:04
Speaker 8: have discussions about what useful role Australia can play.
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Speaker 1: No, that won't take long because we only have one
22:09
Speaker 1: destroyer left in the water. Two are getting refitted or
22:14
Speaker 1: maintained or something, and we've just got two aging mind
22:17
Speaker 1: sweepers left. Can you believe? But to the straight of films,
22:21
Speaker 1: why is it so hard to clear of drones and
22:24
Speaker 1: missiles and mines? Presuming their ore mindset? What would we
22:28
Speaker 1: be up against? Well, someone who does know is US
22:32
Speaker 1: Rear Admiral retired Mark Montgomery, who has said who sailed
22:35
Speaker 1: in this straight of from was many times in the
22:37
Speaker 1: past forty years. He was, among many other things, director
22:41
Speaker 1: of Operations for the US Specific Command and is now
22:44
Speaker 1: with the Foundation for Defensive Democracies. I spoke to Admiral
22:47
Speaker 1: Montgomery a short while ago. Aer Montgomery, thank you so
22:52
Speaker 1: much in d for your time. General Jack Keen has
22:55
Speaker 1: told this show, after reviewing the US war plans, that
22:59
Speaker 1: the US not to try clearing the Strait of moves
23:02
Speaker 1: during this stage of the war because that would just
23:04
Speaker 1: be putting troops exactly where around wanted where it could
23:07
Speaker 1: hit them, and it would divot results from the May
23:10
Speaker 1: nine to destroy around as a military threat. Given what
23:13
Speaker 1: you've seen the economic dislocation to so many countries, including ours,
23:19
Speaker 1: was that the right coal.
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Speaker 5: I would break the decision up into two. First, there
23:24
Speaker 5: was a decision not to put ground forces in at
23:29
Speaker 5: either carg Island or on one of the islands and straits,
23:33
Speaker 5: or on Bunderbus, you know, on the Iranian mainland and
23:37
Speaker 5: General Keynes right. The risk of force would have been
23:39
Speaker 5: so high for that. But there's a second element to it,
23:42
Speaker 5: which is that the US has been aggressively striking the mines,
23:47
Speaker 5: anti ship cruise missiles, fast attack craft and drones that
23:53
Speaker 5: could be launched from the areas around the straits or
23:55
Speaker 5: removes at forces. I think that they're not quite complete
23:59
Speaker 5: with that. That's part of his broader campaign effort he
24:02
Speaker 5: was talking about. So that broader effort will eventually provide
24:08
Speaker 5: you know, benefits for opening the straights or homoves. But
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Speaker 5: we were right not to put troops on the ground.
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Speaker 5: I think the risk of force is so high and
24:15
Speaker 5: you have to put so many defensive elements around him
24:17
Speaker 5: that your risk to mission, which is what he was
24:19
Speaker 5: talking about doing your other missions, actually gets degraded.
24:24
Speaker 1: You know, your risk.
24:25
Speaker 5: Increases in your likelihood and success degrades. So that's where
24:29
Speaker 5: we sit right now, not quite finished degrading the Irrignan
24:33
Speaker 5: capability to affect shipping in the Straits of removes.
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Speaker 1: Now the President says, you know it's going to leave
24:40
Speaker 1: the clearing the straight of moves to NATO, to Japan,
24:44
Speaker 1: to China, other countries that need that oil, because he says,
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Speaker 1: the US does not because you're mainly self sufficient or
24:51
Speaker 1: very much self sufficient. Britain is today hosting talks of
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Speaker 1: thirty five such countries, including Australia, to do just said,
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Speaker 1: have that other resources to do it? Do you think
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Speaker 1: without the US help?
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Speaker 5: First, I want to break this up into the the
25:10
Speaker 5: kind of you know, the in kongruity in President Trump's position.
25:13
Speaker 5: He's very tied to Saudi Arabia, y eirmirchs Kuwait, Qatar,
25:18
Speaker 5: Bahrain in this operation and yet they are the beneficiaries
25:23
Speaker 5: of the Straights as being open and he's letting them down.
25:26
Speaker 5: So I want to first stipulate that. Second, the President
25:29
Speaker 5: is learning an important lesson that if you insult your
25:31
Speaker 5: allies for fourteen months and then ask them for assistance.
25:35
Speaker 5: They tend to be to hold a slight grudge and
25:38
Speaker 5: he's seeing that. Third, there is not a capacity to
25:42
Speaker 5: do this. There are countries that have individual capabilities. I
25:45
Speaker 5: think of Taiwan, Korea, Japan, and Australia and Asia. And
25:49
Speaker 5: Australia can contribute to this. They have good air defense
25:52
Speaker 5: destroyers that will be necessary. They have some mind sweeping.
25:57
Speaker 5: Japan has a much better capacity for that, and the
26:00
Speaker 5: Europeans can help. But the European navies are in sorry shape.
26:05
Speaker 5: Not you know, under resourcing your defense for thirty years
26:08
Speaker 5: impacts navies most of all. But they can do mind sweeping,
26:12
Speaker 5: but you had to their mind sweepers will take thirty
26:14
Speaker 5: to forty days to get on station if they left today,
26:18
Speaker 5: you know, get on station in the Straits of hermus
26:21
Speaker 5: that's a long time. So really this is a very
26:24
Speaker 5: late ask. It's clearly was not the initial plan, and
26:29
Speaker 5: then it's kind of texturized with the president's disdain for
26:34
Speaker 5: his allyies. It's not helpful. So look, I hope the
26:37
Speaker 5: Brits do a good job getting people moving down there.
26:39
Speaker 5: We'll need them for the sustainment phase once the United
26:43
Speaker 5: States eventually opens the Straits of hermus and then we'll
26:47
Speaker 5: need our allies and partners who we need to treat
26:49
Speaker 5: a little better to help us sustain it over four
26:52
Speaker 5: or six months while we continue to pressure the Iran regime.
26:58
Speaker 1: You have stiled the stride of whom moves many times
27:00
Speaker 1: in the past forty years. You've escorted ships through there.
27:05
Speaker 1: What is now the best way to defend tankers from
27:10
Speaker 1: drone and missile the text from Iran?
27:12
Speaker 5: You're going to need about fourteen or fifteen air defense destroyers,
27:17
Speaker 5: and for the reasons we've talked about, really, the United
27:19
Speaker 5: States is going to be the main provider those.
27:22
Speaker 1: The UK might be.
27:22
Speaker 5: Able to provide one of their thirteen destroyers and frigates
27:26
Speaker 5: might be able to get down there. Japan won't provide that,
27:30
Speaker 5: but other navies will provide mindsweepers. And it's going to
27:34
Speaker 5: be you know, you need Admiral Cooper, who's the Central
27:38
Speaker 5: Command commander, is going to have to assess that he's
27:40
Speaker 5: reduced the risks low enough that the air defense destroyers
27:44
Speaker 5: supported by combat air patrol like eight eight fighter planes
27:48
Speaker 5: at fifteens F sixteens F eighteen's overhead a tens patrolling
27:52
Speaker 5: the straits, A constant stare by our intelligence surveillance satellites
27:58
Speaker 5: is enough to safely sweep the straits and then begin escorting.
28:03
Speaker 5: It's it took us a long time. Last time. It
28:05
Speaker 5: took us weeks for when we thought we were ready.
28:08
Speaker 5: So when we did the first escort, and then we
28:10
Speaker 5: ran into a minefield and it took us another three
28:12
Speaker 5: weeks to get ourselves straightened out. So this is a
28:15
Speaker 5: slow process. We did it for about fourteen months in
28:17
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighties. We did it again a little bit
28:19
Speaker 5: later in the nineteen nineties. We can do this, it's
28:22
Speaker 5: just it's a slower type of warfare that the president's
28:25
Speaker 5: lack of patience is going to be troubling with.
28:28
Speaker 1: Well, that is quite gream. The sweeping process. What does
28:35
Speaker 1: it evolve? Why does it take so long?
28:40
Speaker 5: It's a two stage process. There's hunting. First of all,
28:42
Speaker 5: we've done intelligence ahead of time. I hope we have
28:44
Speaker 5: a general understanding of what's been laid, maybe not a specific,
28:49
Speaker 5: you know, charted understanding, but a general understanding four or
28:52
Speaker 5: five of these types of minds, five or seven of
28:54
Speaker 5: these types of minds. You then do mind hunting that's
28:57
Speaker 5: usually done by helicopters using you know, embedded lasers and
29:00
Speaker 5: other technology and on the aircraft and sometimes a sled
29:05
Speaker 5: towed behind the aircraft to hunt for mines. And then
29:09
Speaker 5: either the helicopter with its sled or an unmanned vehicle
29:13
Speaker 5: that comes off our lotoral combat ship, or in the
29:16
Speaker 5: case of a traditional minsweeper like Australian one, the actual
29:19
Speaker 5: mindsweeper itself toes behind it the sweeping gear that cuts
29:24
Speaker 5: the lines on tethered submarines or detonates other types of
29:30
Speaker 5: tethered minds I mean, or detonates other types of minds.
29:33
Speaker 1: And Ukraine does that have anything to offer here? It's
29:35
Speaker 1: been signing deals a week ago with three Gulfer nations
29:39
Speaker 1: offering these six pertise, which is considerable now and drawing
29:42
Speaker 1: the Texan during the missile defenses. What could they offer here?
29:49
Speaker 5: So Ukraine can offer a lot to America's Arab partners
29:55
Speaker 5: and to the US forces in the Middle East, probably
29:58
Speaker 5: not in terms of the maritime content X of the Straits,
30:02
Speaker 5: but in terms of defending forces. I spent a lot
30:03
Speaker 5: of time in Ukraine training their military. I've been protected
30:07
Speaker 5: by their counter and UAS systems. They're highly accurate. There
30:11
Speaker 5: is seventy to ninety percent likelihood of striking a Shahad
30:14
Speaker 5: drone with one of their unmanned ones. Their unmanned ones
30:17
Speaker 5: cost one thousand to ten thousand apiece, so they can
30:20
Speaker 5: fire two or three at a shahead and almost guarantee success.
30:24
Speaker 5: They're the point defense around your airfields, your radars, your
30:28
Speaker 5: desailization plants, your electrical power grid, and then it's supported
30:33
Speaker 5: by aircraft equipped with the advanced precision kill weapon system,
30:36
Speaker 5: which is a cheap rocket on our F fifty sixteens
30:40
Speaker 5: F eighteen's which we have in the Middle East and
30:43
Speaker 5: which the Ukrainians have on their F sixteens. So it's
30:45
Speaker 5: a two stage thing. But the Ukrainians provide that ground
30:49
Speaker 5: based system that's so critical, and really I think it's
30:52
Speaker 5: being installed right now. But this is something we should
30:55
Speaker 5: have identified a year ago after observing the Ukrainians for
30:58
Speaker 5: two years be highly successful shooting down shah head In
31:02
Speaker 5: the case of Russia.
31:03
Speaker 1: Jeron drones, Yeah, I don't think the President wanted to
31:06
Speaker 1: give you Ukraine enough credit as a military partner and
31:09
Speaker 1: said as the way he's portrayed as a military drain
31:12
Speaker 1: on the US Admiral, I really appreciate your time, Montgomery,
31:19
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time.
31:23
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, sir, after the break.
31:26
Speaker 1: How much is this fuel crisis going to hurt you?
31:29
Speaker 1: The reality after this? You know, it's so unforgivable that
31:38
Speaker 1: the Albinizi government and liberal governments before it left us
31:41
Speaker 1: this vulnerable, almost totally dependent on oil and petrol from
31:45
Speaker 1: overseas and outlook, and just as irresponsible as this government
31:49
Speaker 1: leaving us with no money in the kitty to get
31:50
Speaker 1: us through hard times like this. It blew a massive windfall.
31:55
Speaker 1: I have a crazy prices for how col and iron
31:57
Speaker 1: or fritted it away and hand out some crazy green schemes.
32:02
Speaker 1: It's like I never thought to save up for troubled times.
32:06
Speaker 1: And now look, I mean just last week it blew
32:08
Speaker 1: two and a half billion dollars and cutting the fuel
32:11
Speaker 1: xos levey for three months. Today another billion dollar promise.
32:16
Speaker 3: Today I announced under our Economic Resilience Program, we will
32:20
Speaker 3: make available one billion dollars in interest free loans for
32:24
Speaker 3: manufacturing and fuel businesses dealing with the economic costs of
32:28
Speaker 3: this conflict. Truckies, freight companies, and fuel and fertilizer producers.
32:34
Speaker 3: These firms are not just being affected by this global crisis,
32:39
Speaker 3: they are essential to Australia getting through this crisis.
32:44
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's fair enough to spend all these
32:46
Speaker 1: billions to get us through this fuel crisis. But it's
32:49
Speaker 1: all money that you're going to have to pay back
32:50
Speaker 1: because our debt is already around one trillion dollars. Join
32:55
Speaker 1: me is Warren Hogan, founder and Managing director of EQ Economics. Warren,
33:00
Speaker 1: no one could concuse you of taking the sunnyside on
33:03
Speaker 1: the economy. You warned that it would probably end in tears,
33:07
Speaker 1: But you're the economists. I'm not dis governs strategy of
33:10
Speaker 1: spending big in good times instead of saving for bad
33:14
Speaker 1: times like this sounds to me about as stupid as
33:18
Speaker 1: it can get.
33:21
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, well I do think that's the case. I
33:24
Speaker 9: believe there was too much optimism. And of course the
33:27
Speaker 9: government not only pursued this massive expansion of their presence
33:32
Speaker 9: in our economy through the care Economy programs, but of
33:36
Speaker 9: course they endorse the RBA's lightly go lightly approach on inflation,
33:40
Speaker 9: and the two have interacted to create not just the
33:43
Speaker 9: cost of living, constant cost of living pressure on the
33:46
Speaker 9: Australian community, but also obviously increase the cost of government
33:51
Speaker 9: and the blowout in the cost of all these programs.
33:54
Speaker 9: So really we've left ourselves before this war even started,
33:58
Speaker 9: on an unsustainable economic trajectory that would require some severe
34:03
Speaker 9: adjustments at some stage. But this shock, this global energy shock,
34:08
Speaker 9: comes at the worst possible time and will reveal our
34:12
Speaker 9: vulnerabilities very quickly, both in terms of that economic strategy
34:17
Speaker 9: and as you said, the lack of energy security and
34:21
Speaker 9: a bit of complacency on that front as well.
34:25
Speaker 1: Well to this latest scheme. You know, these cheap loans
34:28
Speaker 1: for businesses that are in real trouble from the fuel crisis.
34:32
Speaker 1: Is this the best way to spend our borrowed money
34:34
Speaker 1: in these times?
34:36
Speaker 9: Look, at this stage, I'm not too concerned about these
34:40
Speaker 9: relatively small targeted programs, assuming in the case of today's scheme,
34:45
Speaker 9: that they are there to help businesses get through a
34:49
Speaker 9: difficult period of what an economist would call it liquidity squeeze.
34:52
Speaker 9: If they're executed in the right spirit of the program,
34:57
Speaker 9: then I think that the potential for this to stop
35:01
Speaker 9: further economic ramifications is good. And same with the petrol excise,
35:06
Speaker 9: because we're going to see stresses and strains throughout the
35:10
Speaker 9: supply chain hit the business community.
35:12
Speaker 1: They're going to need to manage through it. Let's not
35:15
Speaker 1: add to it a bit.
35:16
Speaker 9: Of consumer fright as well with a pullback in demand
35:20
Speaker 9: in the economy. So we don't know what the future holds.
35:24
Speaker 9: But at this stage we're talking pretty small sums, and
35:27
Speaker 9: as long as they're targeted, I'm not too concerned.
35:31
Speaker 1: Well, have a look at your crystal ball. We know
35:37
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump means unless the Iranian regime crumbles almost
35:42
Speaker 1: over caves in, I'm not expecting that for at least,
35:46
Speaker 1: you know, weeks, a couple of weeks if it does
35:48
Speaker 1: happen at all, So this war will go in for
35:52
Speaker 1: let's say three weeks, and then you know, we still
35:56
Speaker 1: have that delayed reaction. The fuel then has to go
36:00
Speaker 1: through the Strait of mus to those refineries that supply us,
36:03
Speaker 1: so god knows when the full effect hits us. What
36:08
Speaker 1: is how's all this going to play out in our economy? Well,
36:12
Speaker 1: I think we're.
36:13
Speaker 9: Now in the territory and entering sort of week six
36:16
Speaker 9: and heading for week eight to nine, that it is
36:19
Speaker 9: going to have a fairly significant negative impact.
36:22
Speaker 1: We're already seeing many.
36:23
Speaker 9: Costs go up, and see the problem that we've put
36:27
Speaker 9: ourselves in a position where we already had a demand
36:30
Speaker 9: driven inflation in the economy, which meant businesses were experiencing
36:34
Speaker 9: cost pressures, and they've used this as an excuse to
36:37
Speaker 9: put up prices, whereas they might have been worried about
36:40
Speaker 9: the impact on consumer demand or some other demand.
36:44
Speaker 1: This has seen the flow through very quickly.
36:46
Speaker 9: We've got a real pickle because we're going to have
36:48
Speaker 9: inflation going up to the levels that no one foresaw
36:51
Speaker 9: even months ago, and an economy that could be barely growing.
36:55
Speaker 1: And what do we do. Are we able to.
36:57
Speaker 9: Take the tough measures to get this economy back on
37:00
Speaker 9: track and we've seen none of it in any government
37:03
Speaker 9: in Australia in the last decade. So I would suggest
37:06
Speaker 9: that we're in for a period of heightened economic volatility
37:09
Speaker 9: and for people that have got any significant transactions on
37:12
Speaker 9: the horizon, think about getting them done as quickly as possible.
37:17
Speaker 1: Well that's a cup of cheer for easter. Warren Hogan,
37:21
Speaker 1: thank you so much, indeed for your time. Have a
37:23
Speaker 1: great break. Thank you so much. After the break, Prince
37:27
Speaker 1: Harry is embarrassed by intimate messages to a journalist. There's
37:31
Speaker 1: actually a serious point here. The strangest thing in this
37:40
Speaker 1: angry new world is how Green's politicians keep their base together.
37:47
Speaker 1: And the clearest clash that I see is actually in Britain.
37:52
Speaker 1: The Green Party leader there is Zach Polenski, actually a
37:55
Speaker 1: gay man of Jewish background. Yet it's push hard for
37:57
Speaker 1: the Muslim vote with its latest successful candidate Mana Spencer,
38:01
Speaker 1: running a campaign in Manchester. But that's entirely nurdu to
38:06
Speaker 1: get the big Pakistani.
38:07
Speaker 7: Vote there nerinam Hannah Spencer henay Green Party key fun.
38:15
Speaker 1: At the same time, the Greens are also appealing to
38:18
Speaker 1: young headonists and the sexually flamboyant, shall we say with
38:22
Speaker 1: Polanskin Spencer both filmed last week dancing with the semi
38:26
Speaker 1: naked men a man or two, including one in fishnets,
38:29
Speaker 1: none of whom I imagine visit the local Moscow would
38:32
Speaker 1: be welcome there. Join me from London every Thursday is
38:35
Speaker 1: Patrick Christie's star presenter at gb News. I'm pretty sure
38:39
Speaker 1: there wasn't a local Ima in that fishnet stuff, Patrick.
38:44
Speaker 1: Yet the Muslim community has recently started to vote Green.
38:48
Speaker 1: Why is that?
38:50
Speaker 10: Well, they starts to vote Green primarily because of their
38:52
Speaker 10: stunts on Gaza and they thought that okay, this is
38:55
Speaker 10: all right now we can just both with the Green
38:57
Speaker 10: Party there with us.
38:58
Speaker 5: But the problem is.
38:59
Speaker 10: You just Grell identified Andrew, is that there are a
39:01
Speaker 10: couple of different sects of people that vote Green that
39:04
Speaker 10: don't really get on with each other. And so what
39:07
Speaker 10: we are seeing is that the Green Party has got
39:10
Speaker 10: a co deputy leader. One of them is called mothin
39:13
Speaker 10: alleys of Bangladeshi heritage. When he won a local council election,
39:17
Speaker 10: he shouted Ali Wakbar, this is for Galza, and then
39:21
Speaker 10: his leader and then newly elected MP appear on stage
39:24
Speaker 10: dancing next to what looked like a Sam Smith and
39:26
Speaker 10: village people tribute at he was nowhere to be seen. Surprisingly,
39:30
Speaker 10: I don't think they're going to be putting that on
39:32
Speaker 10: leaflets and handing that out at the local mosque at
39:34
Speaker 10: the next election campaign. So they are disassociating themselves from
39:39
Speaker 10: each other now. And we've seen some really really funny
39:42
Speaker 10: videos in recent days from members of the Muslim Green
39:46
Speaker 10: community at saying things like it was daylight there were
39:50
Speaker 10: kids about. I don't approve with this. I think the
39:54
Speaker 10: word deviancy has been used. Obviously, not my words, he
39:57
Speaker 10: is the words that they have used. And they are
40:00
Speaker 10: starting to wake up now. The other thing that they're
40:02
Speaker 10: waking up to their views on gender, you know that
40:05
Speaker 10: men and women's sports, men and women's spaces. Again, the
40:08
Speaker 10: more kind of conservative Muslim brigade here now are seriously
40:13
Speaker 10: waking up to all of this.
40:15
Speaker 5: So what's going to happen.
40:16
Speaker 10: There's going to be some kind of almighty split that
40:19
Speaker 10: you know, nobody could have seen coming Andrew, no one could.
40:23
Speaker 5: Have seen his coming.
40:24
Speaker 10: But it is going to be a fascinating watch as
40:26
Speaker 10: it as it unfolds, isn't it.
40:29
Speaker 1: But how did they get together in the first place?
40:31
Speaker 1: Why did the Greens think, you know, religious, very religious
40:36
Speaker 1: people were its constituency. I guess it's a little bit
40:41
Speaker 1: of the enemy of my enemy as my friend, except
40:44
Speaker 1: here I would have thought it was pretty obvious. So
40:46
Speaker 1: the enemy of my enemy is my enemy. I mean,
40:48
Speaker 1: you know, how does it work?
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Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 10: They view everyone through the prism of minorities, don't they.
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Speaker 10: So they think that the Muslim.
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Speaker 5: Community is a downtrodden minority. They think that the gay.
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Speaker 10: Community and the trans communities they are also oppressed minority
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Speaker 10: groups and so because of that, because they've got something
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Speaker 10: in common, they will all get on. But that is
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Speaker 10: an incredibly naive way of looking at things. It's also
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Speaker 10: really worth noting that actually just a couple of days
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Speaker 10: after the October seventh terrorist attack, there was an attempt
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Speaker 10: to register a new political party in Britain. That party
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Speaker 10: was called the Party of Islam UK. Now that was
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Speaker 10: rejected by the Electoral Commission for all the obvious reasons.
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Speaker 10: But then I suspect what we've seen then is that
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Speaker 10: is that large numbers of the Muslim population in Britain
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Speaker 10: have been looking for somewhere to go. And the Green
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Speaker 10: stance on Gaza was a big, big one of those.
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Speaker 10: You know, they were calling it a genocide. They were
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Speaker 10: saying that we need to divest everything from Israel. So
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Speaker 10: they all went there and at the last election, the
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Speaker 10: by election in which that lady was elected, they were
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Speaker 10: actually handing out information at local moss the theological reason
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Speaker 10: and explanation why if you are a good Muslim you
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Speaker 10: can still vote for a party that backs you know,
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Speaker 10: gender fluidity and trans writes and LGBT rights and basically
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Speaker 10: the theological argument they were putting across was that, well, really,
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Speaker 10: as long as your main issue is Gaza, then you
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Speaker 10: can ignore all of that stuff and maybe change it later.
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Speaker 10: So for the people like Zach Polanski and the people
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Speaker 10: gyrating on that stage, I would be very, very worried
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Speaker 10: about what you're letting yourselves in for, because if you
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Speaker 10: win a load of seats of the next general election,
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Speaker 10: you might all of a sudden find that you're facing
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Speaker 10: some challenges for your leadership and that you are ousted,
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Speaker 10: really by the more conservative members of the Green Alliance.
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Speaker 1: I wonder where the split will come. Patrick, I kind
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Speaker 1: of confess I missed the point of this story. I
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Speaker 1: just read the headline Prince Harry sent flirty messages to
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Speaker 1: reporter about movie snuggles after weekend of naughtiness. These are
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Speaker 1: messages between the Prince and Daily Mail reporter Charlotte Griffith's
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Speaker 1: for a month between twenty eleven and twenty twelve, so
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Speaker 1: quite some time ago. But they've come out of one
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Speaker 1: of the Prince's court cases against the media. You tell
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Speaker 1: me there's more to this than just, you know, a
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Speaker 1: sniggering headline. What is it that I missed?
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Speaker 10: Absolutely so, Prince Harry's court case. Some of the key
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Speaker 10: tenets of it is against against in part the Daily Mail,
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Speaker 10: was that they used unlawful tactics and phone hacking to
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Speaker 10: get information on him, that he never socialized with journalists,
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Speaker 10: that he did not have a leaky friend group, and
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Speaker 10: that he remembers everything clear as day from that particular
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Speaker 10: period of his life, and that basically they must have
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Speaker 10: essentially hacked his phone in order to get information and
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Speaker 10: make his life a living hell.
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Speaker 5: That's the cornerstone of his court case.
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Speaker 10: Well, that was completely blown out the water by the
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Speaker 10: fact that it was revealed that well, he clearly doesn't
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Speaker 10: remember everything, because he clearly was socializing with a journalist.
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Speaker 10: He was actually quite flirtatious with her. He initiated the
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Speaker 10: conversations as well, and so it's kind of a bit
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Speaker 10: of a mic drop moment for the male newspapers. Really,
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Speaker 10: it was in their closing arguments that actually, perhaps Prince
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Speaker 10: Harry has been caught telling a few porky pies, maybe
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Speaker 10: misleading the court, certainly not got the best recollection of
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Speaker 10: events ever, and that they frankly did not need to
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Speaker 10: hack his phone to get information on him. Also, when
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Speaker 10: it came to the idea of a leaky friend group. Well,
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Speaker 10: that's pretty clear. I mean they were attending the same
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Speaker 10: parties when he was attending a party with a journalist
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Speaker 10: who was working as a royal correspondent at the time
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Speaker 10: at the Daily Mail. It also exposes really that he's,
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Speaker 10: perhaps what we already knew, not necessarily the sharpest tool
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Speaker 10: in the shed, because he claims not to know, not
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Speaker 10: to have known that she was a royal correspondent. Well,
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Speaker 10: he doesn't speak volumes about the quality of his security,
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Speaker 10: does it if he's socializing with someone who's working as
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Speaker 10: a royal correspondent at the time. He also did not
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Speaker 10: cut off contact with her when he said he did,
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Speaker 10: so his argument has been completely blown out the water just.
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Speaker 5: Quickly though as well. He didn't you not have.
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Speaker 10: To expose all of these messages in court? And it
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Speaker 10: is quite embarrassing for the gernalstin question. She's now married
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Speaker 10: with three kids. I mean, this was a long time ago,
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Speaker 10: these messages, but now she's being dragged through all of
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Speaker 10: this and he's quite flirty. Somewhat embarrassing messages are out
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Speaker 10: there and Prince Harry did not have to expose her
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Speaker 10: to this as well, So he doesn't really emerge in
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Speaker 10: the best life all round here. I mean he looks
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Speaker 10: a bit looks a bit stupid to be honest with you,
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Speaker 10: for a start, and also maybe a bit mean making
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Speaker 10: her go through this.
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Speaker 1: Well, Thatddy looks a bit stupid is not breaking news.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I hate to break it to you, mate,
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Speaker 1: but that's not news. But the rest, yes, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much. Indeed, Petrick Christie's really appreciate that. That's it
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Speaker 1: from me. Look, please have a wonderful Easter, be reflective,
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Speaker 1: play some bach Matthew passion. That what I'll be listening
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Speaker 1: to Net's Share. Sorry I shouldn't say that sounds so wanky,
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Speaker 1: but anyway, have a grade east that Nick Sherry, host
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Speaker 1: of my great friend Steve Price. Good Night,