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- 0:02All right, Welcome to another episode a Black Girl Interrupted. Y'all already know
- 0:09who it is. Y'all know I don't need to keep introducing myself, but
- 0:12of course y'all know what's your girl? Ashley and joining me? Fun,
- 0:18Paige? You coldly? What's up? Everyone? I'm doing good. You're
- 0:26ready, You're excited, You're nervous. How you're feeling tonight? I'm all
- 0:31good? Really, you're ready. You're ready for us to get on this
- 0:38journey and traveling our road to healing and forgiveness. Yeah, I'm happy for
- 0:48you, I'm proud, I'm excited. But before we go any further,
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- 1:26Time for all brand new episodes. All right, what are you doing?
- 1:49What are you doing? How are you feeling today? How have you been
- 1:53feeling this week so far? At first, it was you know, stressed
- 2:01because this whole not stress, anxious because this whole election, and you know,
- 2:07everyone wants to know, like who who, Who's gonna be our next
- 2:09president? And you know we are here waiting for his best to be counted
- 2:13in. And you know, I've never been like so invested into politics like
- 2:16I was now so, but I mean, this is our future we're talking
- 2:21about, so I had to be invested, so I know, right like
- 2:27I've been a way this whole week like I've been. Hold on, we
- 2:30have a comment that just came in. Hold on, we have a comment.
- 2:35Hey, Anthony, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank
- 2:38you so much. I know, y'all see my men and me, he
- 2:43doesn't feel like he looks like his mother, but unfortunately he does. You
- 2:46know, he looks just like his mother. Let's see. Let me take
- 2:51this lass. Y'all know, I can't see without these lasts, but he's
- 2:58not. He's all all all mine. So tonight's episode, I had to
- 3:01put my look us back on because I'm blind, y'all, I can't see.
- 3:06So tonight's episode, I know, I said, a couple of weeks
- 3:09ago, we were just gonna wrap up relationships, but this one here,
- 3:15my son suggested. You know that we discussed my mother's son relationships simply because
- 3:23our relationship is broken and we are on the road to healing as well,
- 3:30on the road to forgiveness. So it's a long time coming. There are
- 3:39some things that I know my son doesn't understand, and tonight I'm here to
- 3:45provide clarity for him so he could go home and take that wall down that
- 3:51he's built to block me from his heart. Because I my son was my
- 3:57best friend. You know he's still is. You know, he's been my
- 4:00rock through everything, through my ups, my downs, my highs, my
- 4:04lows. My son has always been there. So we're just gonna jump right
- 4:11on it. The son. So let's go here. Mother son relationships.
- 4:18So you tell me, give me your let me ask you this. Give
- 4:24me your definition of a mother son relationship. Well there's there's not really a
- 4:30clear definition, but it just it depends on the person really. But how
- 4:35I see it is h a mother son relationship is you know, obvio see
- 4:41a good relationship between a mother and son where they're able to you know,
- 4:45connect with each other, and you know, you know, I have that
- 4:48bond with each other, you know, and you'll be able to, you
- 4:51know, talk to each other about certain things, and you'll be able to
- 4:56open up with certain things. And I agree with you on that. I
- 5:00mean you you're my oldest son, You're the oldest and I think I told
- 5:05you this before that I asked the God, whenever he's thoughtful for me to
- 5:11have children, give me a boy. Let my first child be a boy.
- 5:15And that's exactly what he blessed me with. But you were seen long
- 5:18before you got here, you know, before Mamadar has passed away. She
- 5:23kept saying. It was a little boy playing under her bed. She said,
- 5:26this little boy with all this there, he just plays with me here
- 5:30and he just smiles. And you know it, at the time I wasn't
- 5:32pregnant. But I really honestly believe that Mamadarras gave you to me for a
- 5:38reason. I promise I'm not gonna get emotional to night, y'all. Y'all
- 5:44know I'm I'm an emotional person. But when it comes to my children and
- 5:47me trying to rebuild the bomb with my children, I have to I have
- 5:51to deal with a lot of things that they say to me that I know
- 5:56it's gonna hurt, but that's the only way we're gonna be able to heat.
- 6:00And so just to kind of pick it back off of what you were
- 6:02saying, mother son relationship is exactly what you're saying. A mother is supposed
- 6:09to be there for her son at all times. You know, I'm supposed
- 6:14to be your comfort zone. You know, You're supposed to be able to
- 6:18stay down and talk to me and get the love and the nurturing that you
- 6:23know you deserve. You know, that's definitely a mother son relationship. You
- 6:29know, Oh, Anthony say it's okay to get emotional. Showing emotions and
- 6:38feelings as good for us to understand. And it is. This tonight means
- 6:49the world to me because I'm on the road to recovery and healing with my
- 6:57daughter and now my son. Absolutely. T Sha says obedient. She says
- 7:08transparency. Absolutely, And that's and that's exactly how I want to be with
- 7:14my children's to be very transparent. I no longer want to hold things back
- 7:19from my children. I want to be a better mother, you know,
- 7:26that's that's definitely my goal. Is is to be a better mother. You
- 7:30know, Yes, my children are now nineteen and seventeen, but I don't
- 7:33ever feel like it's ever too late to repair a broken relationship. T Sha
- 7:42say, It's a process, absolutely, and I'm actually and I'm ready,
- 7:46you know, baby steps. You know, Yes, when I came back
- 7:49to Houston, I was expecting things to go back to the way they were.
- 7:54But I had to realize that my children were older, you know,
- 8:01they had developed their own personalities, so I had to relearn them. Not
- 8:07only did they have to learn relearn me, but I had to relearn my
- 8:11children. So I'm actually excited about the process. You know, I'm very
- 8:18excited. I'm very excited, very baby steps. You know, I'm not
- 8:24expecting my children just to automatically love, you know, love and respect me
- 8:30today because I know it's a process, you know, I know it doesn't
- 8:35happen overnight, and I'm willing to work and put in the work and do
- 8:39whatever I need to do to compare and rebuild the relationship with my children.
- 8:45You know, my children are everything to me. They are you know,
- 8:48they've they've been the light for me, you know, outside of God,
- 8:52my children have been my life. You know, They've been a lot of
- 8:56the reasons why I've kept going and doing a lot of things that I do
- 9:00as far as changing, you know. So I'm excited. You know.
- 9:05I'm glad that you joined me tonight. I'm glad that you have decided to
- 9:13open your heart and let that wall down. Oh you got another comment for
- 9:20you? What's up? Man? Yeah? Oh? They rolling in pop
- 9:37athon. You say it's a journey as long as each party is willing to
- 9:39walk with you. Absolutely, absolutely, so I definitely agree with that.
- 9:46You know this. I'm excited to be on it. I'm excited to be
- 9:52back with my children. I'm glad that they've accepted me back, you know.
- 9:58But to you, your Corey, because you you you you're the toughest
- 10:03one out of the three. You're the strongest one. So I want to
- 10:11say thank you to allow one that door to open and allow me to come
- 10:16into that door to rebuild this relationship. Both they're gonna keys Casis. That's
- 10:30Tara Artist for for a wife. Oh yes, by the way, before
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- 11:58and unfortunate all the classes that I had another night. Is so that oh
- 12:07for you? Absolutely so oh so. I know I'm gonna embarrass you for
- 12:16just a moment, son, I have to just for a brief second.
- 12:22But it ain't too bad. But let me tell you, I remember that
- 12:30day so vividly. That was Valentine's Day, and Granny bought you your first
- 12:39supper. And that's me and you, my baby, my firstborn. I'm
- 13:00so starry. I'm so sorry that I hurt. I'm really truly sorry.
- 13:16I'm so sorry that I did not put your first and that I only thought
- 13:24about me. I'm so sorry that I wasn't fair when you're needed me.
- 13:41I take accountability for that. I take accountability for the pain that I've caused
- 13:48you. But when me and your said, daddy, we had our conversation.
- 13:56You know, like I told you, I didn't even love myself,
- 14:07so I didn't know how to love my children. I didn't know and I
- 14:16could be a woman in them that I wanted to party, I wanted to
- 14:22club, I wanted to do Actually it wasn't you know. I will say
- 14:28that, I won't say that I didn't love you. I didn't know how
- 14:31to proper enough you because I was too busy loving me and wanted to do
- 14:43me. I wanted to be a mom. But after that, the fact,
- 14:50in the beginning, I didn't I didn't want to be a mom.
- 14:58So when I look at these yours, so much paint hid behind. That's
- 15:05my so much pain, a lot of hurt, a lot of trauma.
- 15:22But when I had you, that was absolutely the happiest day in my life.
- 15:31I want you to always know that I don't regret you. I know
- 15:35I've told you that. I know I've said that to you. I know
- 15:41I've told you I hated you. I know i've told you that I wish
- 15:45I had an abortion. But that was anger, that was hurt, that
- 15:48was pain that you didn't deserve. What was pain you didn't deserve because that
- 15:58was my ain't not your. Hey, Braddy's h h hurt you. And
- 16:32I know you hated me, and you had ever write to thank you.
- 16:38Anthony M M Bradness, Hey, girl, I know you hated me.
- 17:03I think you're tolerating me sometimes. But I've always loved you. I have
- 17:21you are my baby. Thank you Anthony. Oh table oh, but I
- 17:51know I know you did. When I was in Atlanta, I want to
- 18:02draw with me, but I wasn't stable. When I went to jail,
- 18:17y'all were just about to come and stay with you. I went and bought
- 18:21your bump bess. You remember that, yeah, up there in Atlanta again.
- 18:25Well it was well, they weren't, but I had separated them if
- 18:30they were bump beds. But I had separated them because I didn't feel comfortable
- 18:34with you know, y'all being on you know you and Mary being on top.
- 18:41I got arrested and your grandmother said, Ashley, you know, leave
- 18:45them here until we see what the outcome is gonna be. And it hurt
- 18:52me. I wanted to die. I took the suicide, but I left,
- 19:15y'all. I won't say that I left, y'all. I left the
- 19:23situation. I've always wanted my children with me no matter where I went,
- 19:30but it was unfair to y'all for me to drag y'all all over the place.
- 19:37And I was a stable. It was a stable. Oh, thank
- 19:51you Brandis. I met her when I lived in Atlanta, jaral Or.
- 20:00Let's say we are human. Nobody is perfect. I know I'm not both,
- 20:08but I want to be better than what I was yesterday. Every day
- 20:14I wake up. Oh, thank you, James. Oh, I appreciate
- 20:25that. Thank you for being my friend. Hey, big brother, say
- 20:34absolutely much love to you and your daughter and your wife and your children.
- 20:47Brenda says, I sure did. We definitely we all mess up and it
- 20:52step taking its progress, absolutely, and that's my goal. But the one
- 20:57is to have a better relationship with all three of my children, you know.
- 21:07So going back, let me ask you is your definition, and I'll
- 21:18get back to I'll get back to my story. But I want to know
- 21:22in your opinion. I want to hear from you tonight. What's the healthy
- 21:27mother son relationship? A healthy relationship you know between a mother and son is
- 21:36you know, definitely the respect you know from from both people obviously, and
- 21:41uh yeah, being able to you know, talk to one another, you
- 21:48know about certain situations you know, uh yeah, well yeah, for me,
- 21:56that pretty much sums it up. You know, definitely the respect between
- 22:00y'all and you know, being understanding towards one another, and you know,
- 22:06be able to sit down and just have a civil conversation. So let me
- 22:14ask you this. Do you think our relationship is healthy? No? Definitely?
- 22:26Why Why do you think our relationship is not healthy? From right now
- 22:33or for like in the pastor what from then to now? I mean going
- 22:41back again, hold on, you have a you have a question. Oops
- 22:56your perspective of a healthy mother son relationship. Yes, you know, like
- 23:04I said before, it's definitely you know, the lower respect towards one another,
- 23:08you know, being understanding and definitely a lot of trust with each other.
- 23:15Patience, Yeah, patience too, And I think that's both sides.
- 23:22We definitely have to have patience on both sides. You know. You know,
- 23:27being a parent, you know, as I've stated before, doesn't come
- 23:33with a manual. You know, there's not a book that tells you how
- 23:37to be a perfect parent, so everybody kind of learns. And I think
- 23:48a healthy mother son relationship is definitely love. Security. You know, you
- 24:02want to be able to feel secure when you're with me. You know,
- 24:04you want to make sure that I'm protecting you, you know, Anthony say,
- 24:15oh poor Anthony, trust and believe. When I first launched catch All,
- 24:27I was very nervous. I was like, how can I be so
- 24:30open and vulnerable? Vulnerable when people I don't know? But I say,
- 24:36you know, I could possibly help somebody else. So here we are.
- 24:41This is my personal journey. Oh my big sis list. As you're very
- 24:48intelligent, Jr. Cory, I mean they just comes, you know,
- 24:56observing everything and you know, just learning from other people, and some people
- 25:03like say that, I'm like, why is in my young age? But
- 25:10I just I just like prefer to think things a lot more logical than like
- 25:14act out on emotions. And you definitely do that. So Sam says,
- 25:19communication and understanding have to be the foundation. Absolutely. Anthony says, trust
- 25:32and understanding as well as knowing that you have each other's best interests and love.
- 25:37Love is the key and the doorway is the heart. Amen to that
- 25:42one. Oh, I got you say, that's why I'm here. So
- 25:56my Grandpeter says, to make the relationship better, you have to forgive each
- 26:00other for the past and move forward to a healthy relationship, which is exactly
- 26:07why we're here tonight, is to address the past, heal the past,
- 26:14to move on to a healthy relationship in the future. Because what I don't
- 26:18want this to have. I don't want my children to carry this on to
- 26:22their children, you know, I don't want them to carry this on.
- 26:26It has to stop somewhere, So it has to be with my children.
- 26:37Yes he does. That's he has an old soul. But that little bit
- 26:41one got an older soul. That's our eighties child. Corey whops I skipped
- 26:52it. Sam says, you're a very articulate young man. Yeah, he's
- 27:03so sorry. I mean, I'm not like I said, I'm not that
- 27:07show. I mean, I'm not like how you and Marie are. You
- 27:11know, y'all, like you know, go out and you know, you
- 27:12know, being a center of attention or something like that. You know,
- 27:17I just before, you know, sitting on the sideline and just you know,
- 27:21watching and then you know learning. I'm so proud to be your mom.
- 27:32I am. I am absolutely elated that God gave you to me.
- 27:45That's why I love on you as much as I can. Oh, thank
- 27:52you brand this definitely we have to break this. Oh girtis is like a
- 28:07huge step for me. But my son says some things to me. He
- 28:14wrote me a letter, So there you go, to Cory, there you
- 28:29go. When I tell y'all, he is the calm to my storm.
- 28:38I'm a fireside, he's a water sign, so he definitely calms my storm.
- 28:45He's he's the peacemaker, he's the mediator. He doesn't like, you
- 28:52know, he doesn't like all the right rye eat more. Hey, y'all
- 28:59chill you know. So so one day to healthy mother, son relationships which
- 29:08goes ahead, goes ahead, and it leads me to my next question for
- 29:12you, how do we uncover the root of Mother's song conflicts. It's most
- 29:23definitely just you know, addressing the past and I guess trying to like do
- 29:33a make y'all understand each other. And it's most definitely you know, trying
- 29:41to try to forgive the past and you know, try to you know,
- 29:47like someone said in the comments, move forward, move forward to a healthier
- 29:51relationship, because it's not dwelling on the pass only hurts the person even worse
- 29:59some Sometimes you just gotta figure out a way to let go of that pain
- 30:04so you can move on and grow as a person. Clarity, she said.
- 30:17He says you have a spirit like his daughter. He said, he
- 30:19sees your own level of confidence and you're very direct. Absolutely he didn't get
- 30:27a little bit of that for me, Anthony, as he says, you're
- 30:33a balanced I'm the fire, he's the water, and we balance each other
- 30:37out. And I think that's why we were once so close. He's like,
- 30:45you know, my best friend. You know, he's like my many
- 30:48best friends, you know, like I talked to my son about everything.
- 30:56Thank you, little brother, and thank you for your service too, Elizabeth
- 31:04says, right, absolutely so. To really uncover the rule of our conflict,
- 31:17you need understanding. You have so many questions that haven't been answered.
- 31:30Here's your chance. What do you want to know? Well, already know
- 31:37why you left, and you know I under undershenerally and I don't hold that
- 31:41against you at all whatsoever. Uh, It's just you know, why did
- 31:52you treat me the way you did like when we were here? You know
- 31:56that's you know that I can admitine like the start of I'll be you know,
- 32:01disconnected. Mm hmm. Let me take a deep breath on this one.
- 32:20Hey, key anthan He says, I love how you give him afore
- 32:32the speakers piece. You can tell y'all communicate to understand and I talk over
- 32:37each other. I love to see it. I can learn that it should
- 32:43always be like that. You know, you can't really learn anything when you're
- 32:46talking over one another, because you know you could be saying something. I
- 32:51could be saying something, and you know no one will be able to listen
- 32:54to anything. You wouldn't hear what I say, and I wouldn't hear what
- 32:58you have to say. Cooler hands always prevailed. Hey, I'm signed up
- 33:07up, get your booty out of Facebook, jail girl. So i'ma hold
- 33:19off from the commons for just a moment because I didn't have a question that
- 33:27my son wants answered, or let me let me rephrase that that needs answered.
- 33:34Why did I mistreat you? It wasn't so much that I was mad
- 33:46at you. I was more mad at myself. You know, here I
- 33:55am with this baby that it could have been it was between two men.
- 34:05Oh, when I tell you, I'm not a shaving I slept with two
- 34:09men around the same time I got pregnant with my son. The one person
- 34:15I wanted to be your father was not but I salute him, respect him
- 34:21because he gave you his name. I was more piste off than myself because
- 34:34I wanted a father to be in your life, but unfortunately didn't work out
- 34:38that way. But he I'm not mad about me, but I don't all
- 34:50right, I don't hope you. I don't holde you responsible for anything of
- 34:53why I don't have my father in my life. You know, it's like
- 34:59a like, it's not your fault, really, it's more of you know,
- 35:02he chose to leave. So I've accepted that he left, and you
- 35:07know, I have no plans with making any contact with him. And you
- 35:09know I have grown to like look up to look up to other people,
- 35:15you know, like my cousin, Yeah, like my cousin Jason, and
- 35:19my history teacher, you know, mostly my history teacher because you know,
- 35:24I was part of this mo mentor program, and you know, just seeing
- 35:28him like, you know, leading you know, just be himself, it's
- 35:34it's it's sort of like, you know, I felt like a father figure
- 35:37to him. He kind of kind of like how you know in Freshman's Hole
- 35:40Will how Will and Uncle Phil. That's how I felt with my history teacher.
- 35:46Absolutely, So let me take it to the beginning. The way I
- 36:00treated you was my pain because I wanted somebody to hurt like me. My
- 36:15dad wasn't in my life. I never felt like your grandmother loved me.
- 36:24I always felt like when she looked at me that I was a reminder of
- 36:28my dad. Pain. I had a lot of unresolved issues, and I
- 36:37thought having a baby would feel that void, but it didn't. I didn't
- 37:01know how to love me. I didn't even love me, so how could
- 37:07I love you. I wanted somebody to hurt just like me, and you
- 37:16caught the boy of my bullshit. It wasn't because I hated you. I
- 37:25hated me. I hated myself. I hated everything about me. I always
- 37:43felt like I was the outsider. I always felt like, really, love
- 37:47shall more than me. So you caught my paint on Intentionally, I said
- 38:07things to you that you didn't even deserve. But I wanted you to hurt.
- 38:16I wanted everybody around me to hurt. I wanted everybody to hurt,
- 38:30but I held onto that pain because it was safe for me. So in
- 38:37tune, I mistreated my children. I did I hurt y'all. I know
- 38:49I did. I tell the world I know I hurt my children, and
- 38:57through my pain, I still struggled to love y'all. H When you wrote
- 39:06that letter to me, I think I cried for three or four days,
- 39:16but I needed to hear it. It hurt because it was the truth.
- 39:27I think that's what hurt me the most is because it was the truth.
- 39:31And the hardest things that I had to do was standing in that mirror,
- 39:40can admit to myself that I had a problem. I take accountability for the
- 39:57pain. I own it. I walk in there I'm not gonna never turn
- 40:05away from that. But every day I asked God to make me a better
- 40:12woman than a better mother. I asked you every day bring me closer to
- 40:22my children. I ask every day and I take the necessary steps to be
- 40:32a better mother because I know it's not too late. Yes, you're nineteen
- 40:39and I missed out on some of the most imperative times. But I ask
- 40:52that you forgive me and I want to start today. I do need you,
- 41:06I do love you. I'm so proud of the man that you are
- 41:13growing in to be. I'm so proud of you. I'm elated to you
- 41:22that despite all the pain that I've inflicted on you, you still managed to
- 41:27stand tall. I'm so proud of you. I own it hurt that you
- 41:37feel. I do say this. I'm definitely proud of the woman that I'm
- 41:52growing into me. I'm definitely proud of the mother that I'm growing into me.
- 42:02I know I should have been a mother from the beginning. From the
- 42:05very beginning, I didn't know how. I didn't know how to be a
- 42:14mother to you. I didn't know how to be a mother to your sisters.
- 42:23Wait a minute, you got quite a few comments every day. She
- 42:40and Facebook jail for twenty four days. As for you, thank you,
- 42:59miss Alex. I definitely appreciate it. We appreciate and I said I wasn't
- 43:07gonna get emotional night, But I didn't thank you. I don't know.
- 43:43I think maybe I was expecting, you know, when I came back to
- 43:46just jump right back in and and just everything go back to normal. You
- 43:52know, I didn't know, you know, as I said before, when
- 43:57I when I had the same conversation when my daughter, I didn't know the
- 44:00extent of the pain. Let me put these on cause I'm blind, y'all.
- 44:07I didn't know the extent of the pain. Then, you know,
- 44:15Samon's it's hard every day. It's long overdue. Like I said, that
- 44:35pain was was a safe and secure place for me. I didn't know what
- 44:40it was like to genuinely be happy. We have a lot of comments.
- 44:52M I love you too. M M. I just want a better relationship
- 45:16with my children. I just I want my babies. Oh thanks friend,
- 45:22H Yeah, should say feelings are meant to be seldy and not dwelled then
- 45:59mhm. That's all that we can do right now instead of you know,
- 46:21me still being angry at her and you know, having this hatred and anger
- 46:25towards me. I gotta, you know, learn her story and understand from
- 46:30where she came where she came from. So that's all I can do.
- 46:47I'm so solid. I genuinely mean, I love you so much to cor
- 47:04Dwayne Gober and I hope that you forgive me. I didn't know that's for
- 47:24you. Jgory. Oh, his graduation was the happiest thing. H m
- 47:45hm oh. I've absolutely asked God to step in. M Brandon says,
- 48:04thank you. They coming in. Corey, that's for you. Thank you.
- 48:36Warren. Oh. Oh, I know we had a back in November
- 48:53of last year. We had a big blue up to me and my son.
- 49:01We got physical and that was not the first time. And that's when
- 49:07he wrote me the letter and I knew then I had to go and I
- 49:15had to get help. That night changed me forever. That not rocked me
- 49:27to the core. Wow, you know, since you're right, I had
- 49:50been carrying you know, Dr Cory, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to you.
- 49:57I had been carrying the low for so long that your letter because I
- 50:09knew how Mary felt. I just never knew how you felt because you don't
- 50:15talk. You don't talk. I mean, yeah, you know, I've
- 50:32never really noticed it, but you know, after you know, reminiscing in
- 50:37the past with my grandmother and my aunt, and you know, I've noticed,
- 50:42like during my elementary school years and half of my middle school years,
- 50:47I was, you know, always smiling and you know, and over zealous
- 50:55young man that I was over over joyous. I would you know, you
- 51:01don't want to, you know, I don't know how do I explain it.
- 51:07It's like when you know that metaphord saying, oh, if you give
- 51:09your kids sugar, they'll bounce off the walls, that sort of thing.
- 51:13You know, that that's how I was. And then you know, throughout
- 51:17middle school that's you know, I've noticed, you know, I didn't really
- 51:24have that much reliable friends very much. You know, it's kind of you
- 51:30know, been on my own really, and you know, in high school,
- 51:34I was, you know, sort of you know, the little over
- 51:37zealous kid in my freshman and sophomore but like during my junior and senior year,
- 51:44that's when I like only had like a select a few friends and just
- 51:51kept quiet and didn't like speak or anything like I you know built that wall
- 51:59to people, you know, because there are people you know that would say,
- 52:02hey, I would just say, you know, pay what's up and
- 52:05then just go back to doing what I was doing. That would be it.
- 52:12And also sometimes you know, I would want you know, I would
- 52:16say I wouldn't want friends. But you know, I gotta realize that I
- 52:20gotta let go of that barrier that I built along with myself. And that's
- 52:25what I did going on to college, you know. And I know,
- 52:36do you remember that mhm, my love, I missed that that smile.
- 52:52This is what I mean when I say you were my right hand. I
- 53:01think you're the coolest kid. I know. I think you're awesome. I
- 53:10think you're amazing. I really do. I look at these pictures and and
- 53:22and it it takes me back to I should have never left that little boy.
- 53:38I know you felt a bandy. I know you did. That's the
- 53:51coolest kid. I'm telling you, you are just awesome. You're awesome,
- 54:02and I'm very proud of you. And I walked tonight. We can close
- 54:12the door on the past and walk into the future. Ye I'm here.
- 54:25I'm here. Like I say, I know you're older, You're nineteen.
- 54:32You'll be twenty in January. But I'm gonna protect you no matter how old
- 54:43you get, even whenever you get married and who decide to have grandkid,
- 54:53you know, bring me some grand babies and and and this time I will
- 55:00be there for them. And I'm here. I love that we hang out.
- 55:16I've gotten to know you. So there's a question for you. Oh
- 55:30yeah, not just you know, because of what she is. Just you
- 55:36know everything that I you know, went through, you know, not having
- 55:40a dad, you know, being angry with him. You know, I
- 55:44can admit to myself that, you know, I don't I don't really like
- 55:47open up as much as people. I just you know, ball it up
- 55:52and just you know, just lay it off and be like whatever, I'll
- 55:58I won't deal with it at all, or deal with it later or anything,
- 56:00or like I turned into something else that distracts me from it. And
- 56:07yeah, from you know, I forgot who it was, but it was
- 56:17such to myself that I'm like a ticking time bomb. And you know it's
- 56:23not just I blow up on area. Is just I blow up on the
- 56:27person that wouldn't deserve it. And you know that was me, That was
- 56:42me, Absolutely, God is absolutely moving. God is amazing. Yeah,
- 56:54y'all better say that, Anticia, say, twenty twenty isn't in vain?
- 57:02Oh, wasn't that? It's never too late. I don't give up.
- 57:13I'll never give up. I can admit to myself that, you know,
- 57:22during that time in November when I watched that letter, I was at the
- 57:25point of, you know, with my life, of you know, never
- 57:30speaking to you again, you know. But you know, my aunt told
- 57:37me I shouldn't do that, you know, because because I know a part
- 57:40of me would still want to, would still want to uh be you know,
- 57:46be in a relationship with you, and you know I get I get
- 57:53I you know, I just can't do that. So I'm glad. I'm
- 57:58proud of myself that I'm opening up that door that you know, you and
- 58:02I can you know, you know, forgive, forgive and be able to
- 58:08move forward in the future. One problem that's for you, Glory. Yeah,
- 58:27you're absolutely correct. You know, I'm not the type you know that
- 58:32will like, like I like blow up at like a minor convenience or anything
- 58:39like that, you know, because there are times where you know I would
- 58:44just like, you know, stop myself and you know, like just calm
- 58:46myself down and then you know, address the issue. But like they're you
- 58:52know, I say it, my buns can be pushed so many times that
- 58:57you know, there there's a point where you know, but yeah, my
- 59:06brothers gonna be questioned so many times. But like there are certain times where
- 59:08like if it's a little too much, that's when I blow up. Sam
- 59:23says, you need me as much as I need You can say yes,
- 59:31Lord, So let me ask you this. Let me ask you one question,
- 59:45and I'm gonna let that's on you. You talk about it. How
- 59:53do you repair a broken mother son relationship? I'm not saying a word not
- 1:00:04a relationships. Yeah, it's most definitely depends on the person because they are
- 1:00:12definitely most people, you know, mother it's not gonna have a rocky relationship
- 1:00:15and the sun would cut ties with their mother and just like live on their
- 1:00:19life. And it's definitely you know, being able to talk with one another,
- 1:00:30you know community, Like people say, communication is key to everything,
- 1:00:35regardless of relationships. So how do we repair our broken mother son relationship?
- 1:00:51It's definitely you know, not just you, but also on me too,
- 1:00:54you know, uh I actually, you know, open up up to where
- 1:01:02I'm comfortable, not you know, not spill everything, but you know,
- 1:01:07open up at where I'm comfortable, work at my own pace, you know,
- 1:01:13because like you said, you know, like nothing can change like overnight.
- 1:01:16It's a process, you know. That's that's why we're here today to
- 1:01:20do this, to do this. So I'm gonna ask you can say you
- 1:01:29can't keep a bottle up. You have to talk it out. You both
- 1:01:34do all agree. I didn't talk about it, and and granted I didn't
- 1:01:43know, I I won't say I didn't know. I wasn't ready, you
- 1:01:51know, to sit down and have that conversation with my children, you know,
- 1:01:57because I felt like your grandma to play a big, a major role
- 1:02:04in our relationship as well, you know, And once I am mentally and
- 1:02:15emotionally ready to address that with your grandmother, I have to, you know,
- 1:02:24because I felt like she said some things that really kind of drove a
- 1:02:30wedge between us. Granted, fifty percent, I'll say, let me,
- 1:02:35let me rephrase that. Seventy five percent of that was me, but I
- 1:02:39feel like she was another twenty five percent. I feel like she put y'all
- 1:02:46involved, y'all in situations that didn't involve y'all. You know, granted,
- 1:02:52you guys saw the other side of it. You know, you saw me
- 1:02:59acting a damn fool, punching holes in the walls, police being called me,
- 1:03:06going to jail, y'all saw that. But for every cause, there's
- 1:03:13an effect. And I don't solely blame it all on her, but she's
- 1:03:19part of my trauma. She's part of my pain. And my father is
- 1:03:24the other hand. You know, like I say that cycle, we gotta
- 1:03:34break it, you know, linz just say the generational curse. Absolutely,
- 1:03:40we have to stop sweeping stuff under the rug. We have to start addressing
- 1:03:45these issues head on. And that's what I've noticed in most in the black
- 1:03:52community with you know, black parenting. You know, I would see videos
- 1:03:57on you know, not just veriosable, like you know, you know,
- 1:04:01moms or fathers, you know, you know, embarrassing their kids are like
- 1:04:05you know, talking to them like they're grown, like they're adults. You
- 1:04:10know, like that lady downstairs, you know, seeing that like it hurts
- 1:04:15it. It just hurts, really it it because you know, we've we've
- 1:04:25been through that and seeing that for me, it's you know, because you
- 1:04:31know, the whole expectation of a mother's son. You know, they're supposed
- 1:04:34to be loving and they're suposed to love each other, but you know,
- 1:04:38seeing that, you know it, it just breaks my heart really because you
- 1:04:43know, you know, whenever I see something like that, I feel like,
- 1:04:45you know, the son or daughter is gonna grow up and you know
- 1:04:50they're gonna end up not having a relationship with that with their mother or father
- 1:04:57in we should definitely break that chain, not just you know, as mean
- 1:05:01you, but like our whole community should, you know, fix that.
- 1:05:06And I'm sorry and I know and I know some of them would would not
- 1:05:14admit it, but they should, you know, not pass on their anger
- 1:05:21in their trum bunch to their kids because you know their kids will end up
- 1:05:26growing up and you know, it's just one huge cycle that's for you.
- 1:05:44It was generational list as our parents didn't communicate with us about what was going
- 1:05:50on in their lives. They played their strong roles, so we as kids
- 1:05:54did not know any better. And I want it, and I never wanted
- 1:06:00it. Wasn't that I didn't want y'all to know. I wasn't ready.
- 1:06:04I wasn't ready to I was not ready to deal and address with my own
- 1:06:09issues because, as I say, that pain was a safe place for me.
- 1:06:15I felt like if I started being a bitch to everybody, people would
- 1:06:19leave me to fuck alone. You know, I'm you know, I'm just
- 1:06:24gonna be whannted with you, you know. And I wanted everybody to be
- 1:06:30hurt. That was my way. I felt relief when somebody else was hurt.
- 1:06:42So it's almost like it's sickening, you know. I didn't know that
- 1:06:50I suffered from depression and anxiety until I started reaching out to my therapist and
- 1:06:59with her, I had to go all the way back to the beginning.
- 1:07:01I had to address those issues, the things that I had suppressed for so
- 1:07:09many years. I had to address there did I want to know? Put
- 1:07:17In order for me to heal and to be a better person, a better
- 1:07:20woman, a better friend, a better mother, I had to go to
- 1:07:27the beginning. I had to go look at myself in the mirror and say,
- 1:07:33Ashley, you are the reason that you have encountered a lot of these
- 1:07:39storms. You created these storms, and now you're mad because it's raining.
- 1:07:46I had to deal with it, and in order for me to be a
- 1:07:51better person, a better mother, a better woman, and in order for
- 1:07:59me to love my child Dan properly, I have to relearn how to love
- 1:08:01as you. And again I apologized that I never took the time and sat
- 1:08:11down and explained it to you because I knew you guys were left with all
- 1:08:16these unanswered questions, with all these tools, and you were just as confused.
- 1:08:29So oho key, when I tell you with my son wrote that letter
- 1:08:44to me, and I still have it. I read it whenever I feel
- 1:08:51like I'm having one of those moments, I will read that letter and I
- 1:08:56reread it and I'm like, oh, my son checked the hell out of
- 1:09:00me. And I wouldn't necessarily say you checked me. You gave me a
- 1:09:06reality check. You basically gave me an ultimatum. Either you get it together
- 1:09:15or we won't have a relationship at all. It is what you told me.
- 1:09:21And I knew I didn't want to lose my children. I knew I
- 1:09:28didn't I want it. I want my babies closer to me. I want
- 1:09:36you all close to God. I want my children to grow and be healthy,
- 1:09:47productive adults. I don't want to see all inflict this pain when you
- 1:09:55get in a relationship. Whenever you decide to have a child or children.
- 1:10:00I don't want you to do that be better than me. Love horn.
- 1:10:12Yeah, I tell myself every day, you know, someday I am gonna
- 1:10:18have kids, and I don't want to do what my father did and leave,
- 1:10:27leave and go have you know, other kids, and take care of
- 1:10:29them. You know, I wouldn't call myself a man if I do that.
- 1:10:34Like seeing what I go through, I don't want any other child to
- 1:10:40go through that. You're right after it. Because I was pistol, because
- 1:10:49I created all these storms and I was made. I was like a Tasmanian
- 1:10:56though I sure was a ticking time bomb. I would blow up. I
- 1:11:08would explode because I had so much food on my plate. That's how much
- 1:11:16trauma I carried around. You know, when you go to a buffet and
- 1:11:21you're trying to eat everything at the buffet table, and when you eat too
- 1:11:26much of it, it makes you sick. That's how That's how I was
- 1:11:28carrying that trauma. Instead of me addressing it, I would let it pile
- 1:11:34up and pile up like like when you when you become constipated. That's how
- 1:11:46I held on to that pain, that hurt, that trauma and in tune.
- 1:11:53I carried it on to my children, my children. I made my
- 1:11:57children pain and it wasn't even their fault. I created thunderstorms and and and
- 1:12:06bullshit for them that they didn't even ask for. I did that because I
- 1:12:14was hurt. I was mad, I was angry. Everybody was gonna feel
- 1:12:20my pain, even though they couldn't understand it or they didn't ask for it.
- 1:12:25But I that's that's the way I'm going. Everybody ever seen if I'm
- 1:12:29having a bad thing, everybody's gonna have a bad thing. And I was
- 1:12:35mee, But I'm soon proud of myself now because I don't create. I
- 1:12:46don't know if you if you've noticed it me and you were talking it,
- 1:12:55you know, whenever I feel like your grandmother is is irritating me. I
- 1:12:59had read me, I mean, all right, mama, I see you
- 1:13:02later, And that was something new told me. I definitely need to take
- 1:13:15your happy field because he doesn't talk. So I was surprisedly you sent that
- 1:13:25letter and it took me a holidays to reading and I read it. I
- 1:13:32was by myself. I was a little by which is what I needed to
- 1:13:35be. And you're right, mass yeah, absolutely right. So real.
- 1:13:56Last question, where do we go from here? M hm? So,
- 1:14:09uh, where do we go from here? The ball is in your court.
- 1:14:27It's definitely gonna you know, like I said before, We're gonna have
- 1:14:31to communicate some more, you know, trust each other. And you know,
- 1:14:39I know that you trust me, but it's just me trusting you and
- 1:14:45you know me being able to you know, open up more with you.
- 1:14:56But what lissition is, what is what is it about me you don't trust?
- 1:15:04Okay, So it's not much me as just uh, if I ever
- 1:15:18have kids, uh, I get hesitant, you know, if I ever
- 1:15:25associate associate them with you, because I have this feeling that maybe she's gonna
- 1:15:31treat them the same way that she treated me growing up and I didn't want
- 1:15:35that. But you know, I let go of that pain and you understand,
- 1:15:43you know, they're all human, you know, we all make mistakes.
- 1:15:46But the point is that we need to move forward to grow. So
- 1:15:53the question to you with are you willing to let go? Are you willing
- 1:15:58to for you me for the pay that I've caused, for the trauma that
- 1:16:06I've caused, that I've infleeted all And I'm not saying for you, I
- 1:16:14mean for gay? What fuck you? Yeah, I was just about to
- 1:16:18say, you know, I will forgive, but I won't forget. I
- 1:16:25I can, I can do that. I'm in the you know, part
- 1:16:28of my life where you know I am willing to I'm willing to forgive,
- 1:16:31but won't forget. Listen, it is a random story. So I just
- 1:16:41want to take away space. I know I'm embarrassed to you tonight. See
- 1:17:08no, I don't even guess my family members like that. So what you
- 1:17:14want, little ba think you would buy me more? Was this guy right
- 1:17:19here? I'm so happy that I could have been that I was there that
- 1:17:35h that's right, every occasion, anything that I missed, I couldn't miss
- 1:17:45that me to see you walk across that stage. Then you overcame with a
- 1:17:55lot of obstacles, but that day, beautiful, I lined it up to
- 1:18:12the day that I gave birth to you to what's definitely now how we story,
- 1:18:23but definitely how we finish the the words will for you for you were
- 1:18:36ready to receive you. I love you. Come on, I apologize,
- 1:18:54and I know I have to forgive myself. I know what I do and
- 1:19:06I'm willing to be a station with you as I have to be because one
- 1:19:16thing I do as I want that bomb back. So let me ask you
- 1:19:25this as we run into the end of this episode Kata gave us love.
- 1:19:39What do you expect from me? Oh, let me know. I won't
- 1:19:44say expect. Let me rephrase that. What do you need from me in
- 1:20:00this moment? I'm gonna be honest, I really don't know the answer to
- 1:20:05that. Like, if you if you could think of one thing, one
- 1:20:15thing, what do you need for me? I I'd say definitely to be
- 1:20:27secure your your security, you know, being able to feel safe around you.
- 1:20:36You know, how do you need me to do that? I honestly
- 1:21:00I have like a clear answer for that, But I honestly do not know.
- 1:21:12I guess you know part of my life. I'm just sort of just
- 1:21:15like acceptance of how the way things are that I I have no expectation of
- 1:21:26anything. Really, I don't. I don't know if I'm gonna be honest.
- 1:21:30Okay, let me let me try to rephrase the question. You say
- 1:21:36you need security from me? So when we see security, is it more
- 1:21:45time together? One on one time? Let me see the one on one
- 1:21:50time where we come Let me see I'm trying to. I guess in a
- 1:22:01way, I can say, you know, we can go out anywhere,
- 1:22:06and I won't. I won't, you know, be on edge for anything
- 1:22:11that anything could happen or anything could go down, okay, because I can't
- 1:22:17say, you know, h after we had that falling out in Mississippi,
- 1:22:26I was sort of, you know, on edged, you know, like
- 1:22:31if like, you know, if you were too you know, have another
- 1:22:35falling out, I'd be ready. But I don't want that. I don't
- 1:22:41want to always, you know, expecting to fight with you. I don't.
- 1:22:48I don't want that. Okay, I respect it. I understand that.
- 1:23:00So I didn't write a list. But these are the things that I'm
- 1:23:10I'm going to do. I'm gonna love y'all a little harder every day.
- 1:23:19I'm gonna continue to work on me, and I'm gonna forgive myself for the
- 1:23:27past. I can't change what happened. I can only make things right and
- 1:23:38better for the future. And I'm willing to be patient with you, but
- 1:23:50you have to be patient with me. I fall short, I slip up,
- 1:23:59I fall down, I fuck up, so you have to be patient
- 1:24:05with me. I'm in no rush, really, I don't expect like after
- 1:24:15this the next day, you you know, be a completely different person.
- 1:24:19You know, I don't expect you know, things are like change quickly.
- 1:24:24You do it at your own page. Real. Anthony say, this is
- 1:24:30a start. We have to build off of this. He say, being
- 1:24:33present and consistent is good. We just love on each other absolutely. Every
- 1:24:39day that I go over there, I hug and kiss on him, and
- 1:24:44I tell him all the time, I don't care how old you get,
- 1:24:48You're gonna always be my baby, He says. We need patience and be
- 1:24:58able to trust each other absolutely. M and I think we're headed in the
- 1:25:04right direction. If I could judge myself from this same time last year,
- 1:25:15I think I've really greatly improved. We've gotten a little closer. What do
- 1:25:27you think. Yeah, we hang out more. I do want you to
- 1:25:36come over and hang out with me. You got a call, come see
- 1:25:44me surprising. That's the only thing I want from you. Come over and
- 1:25:49hang out with me sometimes, just me and you play the video games like
- 1:25:58we used to. I like that. So we're gonna go ahead, and
- 1:26:12we're gonna go into those final thoughts. So tonight's episode was mother son relationships
- 1:26:26I'm so glad that you know people tuned in, and you know, I
- 1:26:30want to thank everybody for the love, to support, the comments, for
- 1:26:34the positivity as me and my son go down, our role of forgiveness and
- 1:26:42healing tonight was needed, not just for me, but for my son.
- 1:26:49I'm learning to not be so dismissive of their feelings, but to listen more
- 1:27:00so when he speaks out, I'm gonna listen. I'm definitely gonna work on
- 1:27:08forgiving myself and letting that go because I can't change what's already had. I
- 1:27:15can only work on the future. And who knows, y'all might see me
- 1:27:21holding a grand baby. I didn't see it was gonna be from you.
- 1:27:29It could be. So here we go. Anthony says, you have to
- 1:27:45forgive me, and I have to forgive myself. We start off like that
- 1:27:51and we keep going. I definitely agree. So I make my declaration today,
- 1:28:05Ashley, I forgive you. You. Just continue working on being a
- 1:28:15better person, a better woman, and a better mother. You love yourself,
- 1:28:24and when you love yourself, the love false right on in the place,
- 1:28:28the needed love to my son. I love you. I definitely hold
- 1:28:41myself accountable and I know we're gonna be just fine. But thank you for
- 1:28:59letting your walls down and letting me come in that door that you kept locked
- 1:29:04for so long. I'll be consistent. I'm gonna rebuild the trust, and
- 1:29:18I know this time next year will be better than what we were in the
- 1:29:24past. I'm kind of ford that I'm asking God to step in. What
- 1:29:32are your final thoughts. It's definitely opened my eyes for some things that I
- 1:29:44didn't know and give me clarity for some things I didn't know. All I
- 1:29:53can say right now was that I think that will be okay. It's gonna
- 1:30:00take a slow process, but you know, that's that's all we can do
- 1:30:06right now. But but I believe you know, in the near future,
- 1:30:13things won't all things. Things won't be exactly how things are currently. I
- 1:30:23needed that. I love you. I love you too. So to all
- 1:30:33my viewers, my friends, my loved ones, my supporters. I love
- 1:30:40each and ever last one of y'all. I appreciate the comments, I appreciate
- 1:30:44all the kind words. Keep praying for us, Keep praying for us,
- 1:30:53keep praying for me, Pray for my son, Pray for my other two
- 1:30:56children, my daughters, my girls, pray for them. But I also
- 1:31:02want to tell y'all don't forget like, share, subscribe, follow me on
- 1:31:10Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. I'm on all the streaming platforms. I had
- 1:31:16to have a thing for a minute. I'm on all the streaming platforms.
- 1:31:23And I will see you guys next two well not next Tuesday, because this
- 1:31:30is but this season. That's that's the end. But what's today's day?
- 1:31:36Today? It's the tenth, So I will see y'all seventy the twenty.
- 1:31:45Let me pull my calendar. Y'all know I'm sloping. Y'all have to bear
- 1:31:48with me. I will see y'all on the twenty fourth, November twenty fourth,
- 1:31:56Well you know what we'll see. We're playing out goals. But just
- 1:32:00know it's about to get Juice sick. Next season is gonna be Juice said.
- 1:32:06So again to everybody that tuned in, thank you again for all the
- 1:32:11love and support that you showed me and my son tonight. Again, keep
- 1:32:15reading for us, and as my son says, we're gonna be okay.
- 1:32:21Anything you want to say, yeah, I got nothing. Well, I
- 1:32:30thank you for being open and vulnerable tonight, Yeah, which is something that
- 1:32:40you've never done So I'm I'm so happy that you're joined me tonight, and
- 1:32:47let the role to recovery and healing and forgiveness begin the day. All right,
- 1:32:57all right, So to all my I love you guys, Keep loving,
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- 1:33:09I hope everyone enjoyed tonight's episode. If you do, If you have,
- 1:33:14you know, broken relationship with your children, mend, mend, mend,
- 1:33:17mend, mend, mended, you know, repair me get on it right
- 1:33:20now. You know we're all on barrow time. Oh our last coming for
- 1:33:29the night. You're welcome, Keata, you are welcome. Girl. You
- 1:33:35know this may help somebody, you know, my story may not be somebody
- 1:33:42else's story, but hey, who knows. But I love your guys,
- 1:33:47and I hope to you guys. I don't know. We'll see, We'll
- 1:33:53see. I may have something playing, something special playing for you guys next
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