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Why Blood Pressure Pills Don't Fix the Problem · The BP Triangle

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Speaker 1: So you spend 12 minutes with your doctor. Then you
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Speaker 1: go home. And for the other 23 hours and 48 minutes,
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Speaker 1: you're making hundreds of tiny decisions that can affect your health.
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Speaker 1: What are you eating? How are you sleeping? How do
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Speaker 1: you handle stress? How much do you move? What are
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Speaker 1: you ignoring? So what if the biggest opportunity to change
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Speaker 1: your health isn't happening inside the doctor's office? What if
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Speaker 1: it's happening at home? Today, we're going to show you
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Speaker 1: what to do with those other 23 hours and 48 minutes.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, everyone. Joel Pauly is back
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Speaker 1: to discuss your health in great detail. He is a
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Speaker 1: registered nurse, naturopath, and the founder of BraveWorksRN and BPQuiz.com.
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Speaker 1: And so after decades of working in healthcare, including ICU
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Speaker 1: and emergency nursing, Joel became fascinated by what happens between
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Speaker 1: medical appointments. Because your doctor can diagnose, monitor, prescribe, and treat,
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Speaker 1: but your everyday habits happen when nobody is watching. So
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Speaker 1: today we're breaking those hours down and giving you practical
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Speaker 1: places to start. So Joel, let's get into it. There's
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Speaker 1: so much time in the day. You see your doctor.
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Speaker 1: It's literally what you do between those hours that matter,
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Speaker 1: isn't it?
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Speaker 2: It is. It really is.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And I mean, you've spent so many years working
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Speaker 1: in ICU and emergency care. What did you repeatedly see
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Speaker 1: that made you start thinking that you need to help
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Speaker 1: people before they get there?
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Speaker 2: So that's a great question. One of the biggest things
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Speaker 2: that I saw over and over and over again was
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Speaker 2: this lack of understanding of what to do at home.
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Speaker 2: For decades, I was giving people this false sense sense
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Speaker 2: of security when I handed them these prescriptions and basically
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Speaker 2: telling them that all they needed was this pill and
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Speaker 2: everything was going to be okay. Well, years and years
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Speaker 2: later on that same pill, people are starting to question,
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Speaker 2: what is this pill really doing? And what is it
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Speaker 2: that I can do maybe to fix this problem at
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Speaker 2: its source? And so it was those kinds of interactions
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Speaker 2: having overdue just 20 years of nursing that I finally
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Speaker 2: was like, you know, there's got to be more to this.
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Speaker 2: And there's got to be more things that we can
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Speaker 2: be doing in our own time that will help to
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Speaker 2: fix the problem and not just fix the symptoms.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. It's like people usually go to the doctor
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Speaker 1: when they're not well. And then they almost give their
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Speaker 1: full power away to that doctor, expecting that doctor to
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Speaker 1: fix something that realistically requires that human's participation in the
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Speaker 1: healing every single day. And I'm not, I want to
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Speaker 1: be careful because I'm not blaming people. And I know
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Speaker 1: when you're struggling with something, it can be challenging. I'm
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Speaker 1: not blaming people for getting sick, but there is a
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Speaker 1: difference between having that personal agency to what comes after
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Speaker 1: you figure out what the problem is to take charge
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Speaker 1: of it yourself.
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Speaker 2: And I think really understanding how the system works is
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Speaker 2: also a key to this. You know, I do not
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Speaker 2: throw the full baby out with the bathwater, so to speak,
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Speaker 2: when it comes to the healthcare system, because there's very
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Speaker 2: specific parts of the system that are very important, like
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Speaker 2: the emergency room, like the operating room. But when it
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Speaker 2: comes to chronic illness, what we're doing in the healthcare
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Speaker 2: system really isn't making the problem go away. So the
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Speaker 2: blood pressure pill, for instance, it will lower the number,
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Speaker 2: but what drove that number up in the first place
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Speaker 2: is still there. And like you said, the seven, 12
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Speaker 2: minutes doctor appointment isn't enough time for any healthcare practitioner
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Speaker 2: to really get to the root cause. So again, like
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Speaker 2: you're saying, that's where you have to be your own
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Speaker 2: doctor when it comes to what happens at home. Why
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Speaker 2: is your blood pressure high?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I was literally, I introduced myself to a
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Speaker 1: doctor in the area I moved to and I was
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Speaker 1: just sitting there talking to him and he said, like,
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Speaker 1: we've only got 10 minutes. And I'm like, holy smokes,
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Speaker 1: like I've got 10 years of things that I want
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Speaker 1: to talk to you about, right? Like it's crazy. They're
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Speaker 1: so busy and there's no way that in 10 minutes
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Speaker 1: you can figure out the solution to something in the body,
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Speaker 1: the body is so complex. Like there's so many aspects
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Speaker 1: to it. And what always surprises me is that when
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Speaker 1: I finally do start feeling better, it's never what I
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Speaker 1: thought it was. So the symptom may be, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: anxiety or brain fog or whatever it is. And, but
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Speaker 1: it comes down to something I would never have imagined,
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Speaker 1: but it took, takes a while to figure out the solution.
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Speaker 1: Is that typical?
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Speaker 2: Very, very typical. And oftentimes that's not any kind of
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Speaker 2: work general people want to do. So, you know, that's
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Speaker 2: an introspection, that's a being alone sometimes in the quiet,
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Speaker 2: in the stillness, self-examination. So there's a lot of people
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Speaker 2: that really just don't like doing that kind of work.
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Speaker 2: And I think that that's really where the healthcare system
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Speaker 2: and those kinds of patients have this kind of win-win
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Speaker 2: scenario that they kind of play together where I don't
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Speaker 2: want to make any lifestyle changes. You get paid by
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Speaker 2: giving me this pill over and over and over again.
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Speaker 2: And so we just have this little thing where we
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Speaker 2: benefit each other. But in my opinion, that's a lose-lose scenario, really.
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Speaker 2: Like you're not getting better. The system is not being
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Speaker 2: incentivized to bring you to health. In fact, they're being
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Speaker 2: incentivized to keep you sick so that you keep these
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Speaker 2: And it's just this lose-lose-downward spiral. And so a lot
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Speaker 2: of people, though, like I'm saying, they're not interested in
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Speaker 2: doing that kind of understanding about themselves, about where these
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Speaker 2: causes might be, and what is the requirement to make
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Speaker 2: those changes in their life. They like their life, and
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Speaker 2: they don't want to make changes. But I always tell people,
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Speaker 2: it's a pros and cons thing, you know? Do you
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Speaker 2: want to be well or do you want to stay
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Speaker 2: the same? And some people, they just, they don't want
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Speaker 2: to be well, ultimately.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when it comes down to it, I think people
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Speaker 1: are addicted to the chaos in a way, you know,
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Speaker 1: like the only way to change is to walk through
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Speaker 1: the fire, to do the things. But sometimes it can
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Speaker 1: be incredibly confusing and I mean, I've hired a private
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Speaker 1: clinic to do an extremely extensive blood work panel. And
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Speaker 1: when I saw my results, it all looked amazing to me.
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Speaker 1: But when I was doing that, I wasn't feeling good
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Speaker 1: at all. And so I'm curious to know, because I
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Speaker 1: know this, I'm sure you hear this all the time.
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Speaker 1: My labs are great. They look normal, but I still
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Speaker 1: can't sleep. I'm exhausted. I'm gaining weight. My mood is changing.
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Speaker 1: I've got anxiety. What are these, like the blood work
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Speaker 1: results have these, it's like these ranges and it shows
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Speaker 1: like if you're in the middle, they claim that's normal.
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Speaker 1: But how do you actually look at blood work and
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Speaker 1: distinguish what's wrong, even if it does seem quote unquote normal?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a really good question. And it comes
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Speaker 2: up a lot in my client and coaching experiences. because really,
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Speaker 2: and it kind of goes back to the way that
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Speaker 2: the healthcare system is set up. It's all about symptoms.
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Speaker 2: It's called symptomology, the study and treatment of symptoms. They're
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Speaker 2: not looking for the core issue. And that shows up
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Speaker 2: even in the way that they look at labs. So
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Speaker 2: labs are oftentimes influenced by a lot of your symptoms.
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Speaker 2: And if you don't have symptoms, if you, let me
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Speaker 2: say it the other way around, sometimes those labs are
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Speaker 2: not revealing causes. They're only revealing symptoms. And so you
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Speaker 2: may feel abnormal, but your labs may feel, look normal.
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Speaker 2: And one of the things that I tell people all
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Speaker 2: the time, like this is a prime situation where you
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Speaker 2: are your own best doctor. No one else can feel
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Speaker 2: the way that you feel, even if your labs look normal.
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Speaker 2: And so yes, sometimes labs are helpful, But in my
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Speaker 2: coaching experience as a naturopath, I don't put a lot
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Speaker 2: of weight on labs because I've seen labs that were
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Speaker 2: abnormal and the person was perfectly healthy. I've seen the
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Speaker 2: opposite as well. And so I tell people all the time, sure,
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Speaker 2: look at your labs, give it a little bit of weight,
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Speaker 2: but not the whole picture. Like that's not the full picture.
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Speaker 2: Really how you're feeling, what's the reality of your sleep?
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Speaker 2: What's the reality of your stress level? What's the reality
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Speaker 2: of even your blood pressure may not be showing up
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Speaker 2: on your labs? So that's kind of my take on labs.
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Speaker 2: They are helpful in some instances, but like you're saying,
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Speaker 2: you may still be feeling terrible even though your labs
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Speaker 2: look okay. And the other thing is like a diabetic,
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Speaker 2: for instance. It doesn't show... diabetes when someone is on insulin, necessarily.
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Speaker 2: You can be on insulin artificially and your labs look great,
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Speaker 2: like you're not even a diabetic anymore. But you are, right?
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Speaker 2: Just because you're on insulin does not mean that your
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Speaker 2: diabetes went away. It's just a symptomology situation where your
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Speaker 2: labs are kind of lying to you in a sense.
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Speaker 1: Right. So I guess, what is the next step? Because
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Speaker 1: most people want their labs to, if they're feeling crappy,
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Speaker 1: they want their labs to show what's wrong so they
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Speaker 1: can begin feeling better. So how do you move forward
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Speaker 1: and like the next step in terms of feeling better
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Speaker 1: if there's nothing obvious?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's a, that's a good point. And what
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Speaker 2: I tell people all the time is do not let
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Speaker 2: the number define you.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: So when you are diagnosed with a high A1C, they
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Speaker 2: tell you you are now a diabetic. And so you
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Speaker 2: start saying that, I'm a diabetic. People ask you, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm a diabetic. And that's an identity, right? And so
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Speaker 2: oftentimes I'm finding that people are relying on numbers, the scale,
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Speaker 2: the blood pressure cuff, the A1C numbers, their hormone, their
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Speaker 2: cortisol numbers, all of these things to really identify themselves.
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Speaker 2: And so my first suggestion is to move away from
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Speaker 2: that identity that is tied to those numbers and begin
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Speaker 2: really understanding who you really are as a person. Like
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Speaker 2: what is your real identity and how can you maximize
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Speaker 2: your health, how you feel, how your life is going
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Speaker 2: on a day-to-day basis outside those 12 minutes at the
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Speaker 2: doctor's office. Like, what is your life really made up of?
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Speaker 2: And when you start there, setting aside the identity connected
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Speaker 2: with the numbers, the lens starts to change. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's really my first step.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So one interesting discovery that I found for myself,
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Speaker 1: I never would have guessed was I was lacking in
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Speaker 1: iron and some minerals that, you know, it wasn't even
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Speaker 1: on my radar. And sometimes we put Like I find
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Speaker 1: we put so much like weight on certain things that
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Speaker 1: we think make a big difference, but it could be
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Speaker 1: something little, like just a simple tweak to the diet, right?
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Speaker 1: Like often when we feel crappy, we're like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: there's got to be something terribly wrong. But it's like
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Speaker 1: a simple supplement can literally change the game. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's important to note that like our soil is lacking
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Speaker 1: and all of those minerals that we used to get
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Speaker 1: like hundreds of years ago. And so a little thing could,
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Speaker 1: could make a big change.
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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And so I have a personal checklist
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Speaker 2: that I kind of run through every day, especially when
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Speaker 2: I'm feeling bad, when I'm sick, when I'm, you know,
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Speaker 2: even if I'm depressed and things, I go through this
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Speaker 2: checklist and it's eight points of I'll run through them
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Speaker 2: really quickly. But it really helps to cover all the
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Speaker 2: bases of those little things that you're talking about. Because
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Speaker 2: when you have a consistent method of going through your day,
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Speaker 2: of looking through the way that you've lived your day,
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Speaker 2: you're able to identify areas that, you know, maybe you
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Speaker 2: didn't show up as strong the past couple of days.
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Speaker 2: And that might be the reason why I feel this way, right?
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Speaker 2: So this checklist, it spells the word new start, N-E-W-S-T-A-R-T.
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Speaker 2: Some of you may have heard of it, but it
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Speaker 2: is an acronym that stands for nutrition, exercise, water, sunshine, temperance, air, rest,
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Speaker 2: and trust. And I'm a Christian, so I believe trust
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Speaker 2: in God. Some people put their trust elsewhere. But that
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Speaker 2: eight-point checklist, is really covering all the bases of things
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Speaker 2: that are required to have really great health. And when
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Speaker 2: I say nutrition, starting at the top, it's eating as
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Speaker 2: many plants and as many green things as possible because
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Speaker 2: that's where a lot of those trace minerals and the
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Speaker 2: iron and the protein that people are lacking are found.
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Speaker 2: And they can try to find them in supplements and
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Speaker 2: other animal products and things like that, but the side
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Speaker 2: effects don't, really add up in my opinion. And so
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Speaker 2: as close as you can get to eating a plant
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Speaker 2: straight out of the ground, the better results your body
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Speaker 2: will have in those little areas. So, yeah.
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Speaker 1: So when someone starts like implementing, let's say like new
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Speaker 1: diet changes, how long do you think it typically takes
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Speaker 1: to notice results?
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Speaker 2: Wow. So I've seen some very extreme examples. So I
15:05
Speaker 2: worked at a lifestyle center for two years and we
15:08
Speaker 2: brought in people with cancer and diabetes and blood pressure
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Speaker 2: issues and weight problems. And in a matter of a week,
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Speaker 2: we had people losing extreme amounts of weight. Well, not extreme,
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Speaker 2: but 10, 15 pounds, getting off their insulins, their Lantus,
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Speaker 2: their metformins. dropping their blood pressure pills, all through doctor oversight.
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Speaker 2: But it was mind-blowing for me, having never seen that
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Speaker 2: occur in the hospital. And this was all diet. Diet,
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Speaker 2: some exercise, easy exercises, but mostly dietary changes happen. The
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Speaker 2: healing happens very rapidly. The body is able to heal
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Speaker 2: itself very rapidly when you remove the cause instead of
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Speaker 2: I give the example of the kitchen on fire. It's
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Speaker 2: like going into your kitchen. There's this big fire on
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Speaker 2: the stove. Middle of the night, the alarms are blaring.
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Speaker 2: And instead of fixing the fire, you just pull the
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Speaker 2: batteries out of the alarm and then go back to bed.
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Speaker 2: That's what we're doing with the way we're living currently
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Speaker 2: in our society with the pills. The pills are just
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Speaker 2: taking the batteries out of the alarms. But as soon
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Speaker 2: as you put that fire out, you can leave the alarms.
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Speaker 2: As soon as you put that fire out, the alarms
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Speaker 2: will go off very rapidly. And that's how the body works.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I mean, sometimes there is a
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Speaker 1: need for medications, but ultimately it's not the end all
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Speaker 1: be all. And there's so much more to it. Like,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you want like the root cause fixed versus just
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Speaker 1: like putting a bandaid on it and hoping that if
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Speaker 1: you keep putting band-aids on it's eventually going to go
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Speaker 1: away like it just doesn't work that way and unfortunately
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Speaker 1: we've been we haven't really been taught that but I
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Speaker 1: love that we're talking about this so let's walk through
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Speaker 1: literally walk through those other 23 hours that we were
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Speaker 1: talking about when you're done from your doctor's appointment so
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Speaker 1: the first hours of the day before you even get
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Speaker 1: out of bed what matters is.
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Speaker 2: So before you get out of bed, I think really
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Speaker 2: what matters is what happened the night before. That's a
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Speaker 2: big one, because those first few hours before you get
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Speaker 2: out of bed, I encounter a lot of people that
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Speaker 2: talk about it's so hard to get out of bed
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Speaker 2: because I have no energy. You know, I just I
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Speaker 2: haven't slept well. I feel terrible. I don't want to
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Speaker 2: get out of bed. So I think that's a very
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Speaker 2: common first few hours before you get out of bed scenario.
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Speaker 2: And in order to fix that, you've got to go
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Speaker 2: to the night before. And I call it sleep hygiene.
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Speaker 2: There's a few things that you can do to make
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Speaker 2: that period much better with much higher energy. And one
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Speaker 2: of them is get off your screens an hour before bed.
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Speaker 2: The blue light really messes with your melatonin. And so
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Speaker 2: an hour before bed, shut them down, read a book, Meditate,
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Speaker 2: you know, those sorts of things and relax. And the
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Speaker 2: second thing is eat a lighter supper. Less food right
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Speaker 2: before you go to bed allows your body to enter
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Speaker 2: a deeper rest. So people with high blood pressure, you'll
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Speaker 2: see yourself reset at night naturally if you can actually
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Speaker 2: be asleep. And the hours before midnight is the prime
18:37
Speaker 2: hours to be asleep. They're worth double. So if you
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Speaker 2: can go to bed nine o'clock, by the time midnight
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Speaker 2: rolls around, your body feels like it's slept for six hours.
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Speaker 2: So once you get to that early morning time before
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Speaker 2: you get up, you're going to feel so much better.
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Speaker 1: What about what we do when we get up?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: How important is our behavior when we get out of bed?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Good, good question. So I think when you
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Speaker 2: get out of bed, one of the first things you
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Speaker 2: ought to do, because I also see this as a
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Speaker 2: common problem with people is stretch. Do some form of stretching.
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Speaker 2: We often just jump out of bed and go about
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Speaker 2: our day, but if you can stop and stretch first,
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Speaker 2: it will eliminate a lot of your lower and upper
19:29
Speaker 2: back problems the day. Also, some people have tension headaches
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Speaker 2: that are really just a lack of stretching. So that's
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Speaker 2: usually my first move when it comes to getting out
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Speaker 2: of bed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great one. And so this is so common,
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Speaker 1: so common. Guarantee you everyone out there is going to
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Speaker 1: be like, you're totally calling me up. Alarm, grab your phone, scroll,
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Speaker 1: look at your emails, jump out of bed, chug back
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Speaker 1: a coffee, no breakfast, rush out the door. How does
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Speaker 1: that affect the entire day?
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Speaker 2: Really, the first problem that shows up with that method
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Speaker 2: is the 11 a.m. crash. And I've done this system.
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Speaker 2: I've been a nurse a long time. And so I
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Speaker 2: know what it's like to run on.
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Speaker 1: Coffee all day.
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Speaker 2: So, you know, but 11 a.m. is when that problem
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Speaker 2: first arises. Like you have this energy crash, like you've
20:27
Speaker 2: got nothing left. And you've got to refill the tank somehow.
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Speaker 2: So you grab another cup of coffee and another donut
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Speaker 2: or whatever. And you just try to do that, get
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Speaker 2: yourself through the day till you get home. So I
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Speaker 2: recommend that the first thing you do, stretch, get some
20:43
Speaker 2: liquid into your system. A warm quart of lemon water
20:48
Speaker 2: is where I go to first. That helps to hydrate,
20:52
Speaker 2: cleanse the stomach out, really give you some natural energy.
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Speaker 2: You can even throw some cayenne pepper in there. and
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Speaker 2: after you've really hydrated your system, do some form of
21:04
Speaker 2: light exercise. Walking is the best form of exercise. Walking
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Speaker 2: fast and then slow and then fast and then slow,
21:13
Speaker 2: getting your heart rate up, that is one of the
21:15
Speaker 2: best forms of exercise. And if you do it in
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Speaker 2: the morning, it will actually help your sleep the next night.
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Speaker 2: There's something about the way that your hormones are triggered
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Speaker 2: if you exercise in the morning. And then what I
21:29
Speaker 2: recommend is eating a large breakfast. Breakfast should be your
21:34
Speaker 2: biggest meal of the day. So what you may normally
21:38
Speaker 2: like to eat at supper, eat that at breakfast or
21:41
Speaker 2: a significant amount of energy, protein, carbs, vegetables, fruit, you know,
21:47
Speaker 2: these things at breakfast, because then you will have energy
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Speaker 2: that will take you throughout the day. That's why we
21:53
Speaker 2: call it breakfast. It's a break of the fast. So
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Speaker 2: you need to do that in a really intentional way
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Speaker 2: to have your energy throughout the day. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about you and the last show
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Speaker 1: we did this week because I just, for some reason,
22:11
Speaker 1: I'm so hungry all the time. And I went and
22:13
Speaker 1: I bought like this big T-bone steak. And I had
22:17
Speaker 1: steak and eggs and spinach and quinoa with a side
22:21
Speaker 1: of kiwi the other day. And man, I felt so good.
22:25
Speaker 1: I'm not used to eating like that in the morning,
22:27
Speaker 1: but then I switched it around and had like a
22:30
Speaker 1: little bit of a lighter lunch. And then my dinner
22:32
Speaker 1: was something like really small and I really did feel good.
22:36
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:37
Speaker 1: So it does make a big difference. Like it's like
22:40
Speaker 1: the beginning of our day is foundational. And so if
22:44
Speaker 1: we're consistently not feeding our body what it needs, we're
22:46
Speaker 1: going to have those ups and downs and crashes.
22:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And there's so much about our society that
22:54
Speaker 2: just flips things backwards because of, you know, nostalgia where
22:58
Speaker 2: we like to sit around as a family and eat
23:00
Speaker 2: a big dinner in front of the TV and all
23:03
Speaker 2: these things. But really, yeah, it's just, it's backwards and
23:07
Speaker 2: we need to start examining some of these things for
23:11
Speaker 2: better health.
23:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's, I mean, I'm overwhelmed by it, but
23:16
Speaker 1: there's so much nutrition advice out there right now. And
23:19
Speaker 1: And I feel like every week there's a new trend,
23:22
Speaker 1: there's a new fad, like protein is like huge right now. Like,
23:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just drove by a Starbucks and
23:29
Speaker 1: I saw protein coffee now available. There's keto, low fat,
23:33
Speaker 1: don't eat this, eat this, plant-based, no meat, eat meat.
23:36
Speaker 1: Like it's like insane. And so for someone who's struggling,
23:42
Speaker 1: that can be totally defeating. Like completely, it could just
23:46
Speaker 1: shut you right down if you're seeing all of these
23:48
Speaker 1: different things. So what would you, if you strip away
23:52
Speaker 1: all that noise, what fundamental things matter the most in
23:56
Speaker 1: terms of what we're eating and incorporating into our diet?
24:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. And so one of the
24:04
Speaker 2: coaching methods that I've adopted is not so much giving
24:08
Speaker 2: people tactical information, like a protocol, you've got to eat this, this, this,
24:13
Speaker 2: and this, because everybody's unique. Everybody's different. Everybody lives in
24:17
Speaker 2: different places. Some parts of the world, you can't eat
24:21
Speaker 2: a vegetarian diet. Like you have to eat meat. So
24:25
Speaker 2: I try to really help people understand that they are, again,
24:30
Speaker 2: their own best doctor. And one of the ways to
24:33
Speaker 2: really get in tune with your body is to listen
24:37
Speaker 2: to that voice in your head. We've all had that
24:39
Speaker 2: voice going in the shopping center, certain aisles, like part
24:44
Speaker 2: of our brain is like, maybe we shouldn't be over here.
24:47
Speaker 2: Maybe we should go over there a little more. And
24:50
Speaker 2: so just teaching people to listen to that voice more,
24:55
Speaker 2: not 100%. You know, I believe in the 80-20 rule
24:59
Speaker 2: where it's like 80% of the time you want to
25:03
Speaker 2: make your plate, you want to make your habits, your
25:07
Speaker 2: food intake, something that the voice inside your head approves of.
25:11
Speaker 2: And then 20% of the time you go out to eat,
25:14
Speaker 2: you go to a birthday party, you have a party.
25:16
Speaker 2: And don't judge yourself based on that 20% because you know, listen,
25:22
Speaker 2: most of the time I'm trying to eat the way
25:24
Speaker 2: that I feel is the best for my body. And
25:26
Speaker 2: then 20% of the time I splurge every once in
25:29
Speaker 2: a while. And when you have that approach to your eating,
25:33
Speaker 2: it takes such a huge weight off of you. Because
25:36
Speaker 2: it's you and yourself and you are understanding what works
25:40
Speaker 2: for your body and you have goals about how healthy
25:44
Speaker 2: you want to be and how you think you can
25:45
Speaker 2: get there. And you begin to trust yourself more. You
25:49
Speaker 2: begin to get in touch with the real you, the
25:52
Speaker 2: real identity and not being identified by, oh, I'm a
25:57
Speaker 2: vegan or, oh, I'm a diabetic or, oh, I'm a
26:00
Speaker 2: this or I'm a that. Like I'm me and this
26:03
Speaker 2: is what I believe is best for me to do. Yeah.
26:08
Speaker 1: Agreed. Yeah, that's really great. Everyone's so unique. Yeah, exactly.
26:12
Speaker 1: It's like strengthening the relationship we have with ourselves and
26:16
Speaker 1: listening to what our body is telling us. Just because
26:19
Speaker 1: someone tells us something's working for them, it may not
26:23
Speaker 1: work for us. And if it doesn't resonate, then it's
26:26
Speaker 1: not meant for you. You know, we can feel that.
26:29
Speaker 1: Let's quickly touch on the protein thing. What should people
26:33
Speaker 1: understand about protein?
26:35
Speaker 2: Oh, my. Hot topic for sure. Yeah. So especially with.
26:39
Speaker 1: So hot topic right now. Yeah. Protein everything. There's protein
26:42
Speaker 1: like crackers.
26:43
Speaker 2: There's.
26:44
Speaker 1: I don't see everything.
26:47
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I just saw something crazy that was protein the
26:51
Speaker 2: other day in the store. And I'm like, what? So,
26:53
Speaker 2: you know, I really think it has to do a
26:56
Speaker 2: lot with the way that they've changed the food pyramid.
26:59
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've noticed, but they flipped the
27:02
Speaker 2: food pyramid upside down. And along the top is, they
27:07
Speaker 2: do have vegetables up there, but on a lot of
27:09
Speaker 2: the pictures, you see prominently meat and dairy and animal products,
27:15
Speaker 2: and they're really promoting a much, much higher intake of
27:18
Speaker 2: protein right now. Well, I was listening to NPR the
27:22
Speaker 2: other day, and they were talking about this switch and
27:28
Speaker 2: some of the ethical reasons dilemmas behind the change. And
27:33
Speaker 2: those included the fact that several, I don't remember exactly
27:37
Speaker 2: how many, but several of the board members, a majority
27:41
Speaker 2: of the board members that voted this change were being
27:46
Speaker 2: financially incentivized by the meat and dairy industry. And so
27:51
Speaker 2: it was not an unbiased scientific study that created these recommendations.
27:57
Speaker 2: And the second thing they were saying is that the
28:01
Speaker 2: recommendations are not just recommendations. Like those of us that
28:05
Speaker 2: are just living our lives may look at it as recommendations,
28:09
Speaker 2: but the school systems have to abide by these recommendations.
28:14
Speaker 2: So our children going to public schools, going to daycares,
28:18
Speaker 2: they have to feed those children according to the USDA recommendations.
28:25
Speaker 2: And so it is being forced upon the children And
28:30
Speaker 2: my understanding of the body is that the amount of
28:34
Speaker 2: protein we need is nowhere near the amounts that they're
28:37
Speaker 2: trying to push on us as a society. We can
28:42
Speaker 2: have an adequate amount of protein intake simply from plants.
28:47
Speaker 2: And I have proof. I'm not just saying this. It's proven.
28:52
Speaker 2: And you will agree with me when you see it.
28:54
Speaker 2: The gorilla, one of the strongest mammals on the planet,
29:00
Speaker 2: only eats green things.
29:02
Speaker 1: Right.
29:04
Speaker 2: And that is one of my favorite examples of how
29:09
Speaker 2: protein that we need to have giant muscles and do
29:14
Speaker 2: all kinds of incredible feats of strength can come simply
29:18
Speaker 2: from plants.
29:20
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I've seen these studies where People have eaten
29:24
Speaker 1: like the same thing every day and how it really
29:27
Speaker 1: hasn't affected their health. Like, I don't know, I saw
29:30
Speaker 1: this one person, I think it was like watermelon or something.
29:33
Speaker 1: And like they were still doing the things that they
29:36
Speaker 1: were doing and exercising and really didn't make a big difference.
29:39
Speaker 1: So why are we getting this so wrong? It's just
29:42
Speaker 1: so it's fascinating to me.
29:45
Speaker 2: It is.
29:46
Speaker 1: It is.
29:46
Speaker 2: And I think ultimately it means that there's just a
29:49
Speaker 2: lot about the body that we don't understand. Like, for instance,
29:53
Speaker 2: you said the watermelons. I'm sitting here drinking the Master
29:58
Speaker 2: Cleanse right now. It's lemonade, cayenne pepper, and maple syrup
30:03
Speaker 2: mixture in water. And it is an incredible detox. If
30:07
Speaker 2: you've never done it before, I highly recommend it. But
30:11
Speaker 2: the record someone has been on this liquid is 390 days. Wow,
30:14
Speaker 2: just that? Yeah, just this. So science would say that's impossible.
30:24
Speaker 2: You're not getting enough protein. You're not, you know, getting
30:26
Speaker 2: enough this. You're not getting enough that.
30:28
Speaker 1: You're a waste away. Right.
30:29
Speaker 2: But the person was alive, healthy, high energy. Like the
30:33
Speaker 2: energy you feel on these is amazing. And so, yeah,
30:38
Speaker 2: it is incredible how little we actually know about the
30:42
Speaker 2: body and how science tries to promote itself as all knowing,
30:48
Speaker 2: but it's really not. It really isn't. And so, yeah.
30:51
Speaker 1: Right. I think another thing that confuses people is sodium.
30:56
Speaker 1: So we're told to like avoid sodium, but the body
31:01
Speaker 1: actually needs sodium for electrolytes and to be balanced. Like
31:06
Speaker 1: it's on your blood test to see your sodium levels.
31:10
Speaker 1: And if it's too low, that's going to affect your
31:13
Speaker 1: body as well. But what is your take on the
31:16
Speaker 1: amount of sodium that we should be ingesting every day?
31:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Great question. So I think that one of
31:22
Speaker 2: the easiest markers to look at is or the baseline
31:26
Speaker 2: is the American Heart Association has a recommendation of 1500
31:31
Speaker 2: milligrams or less of sodium per day. And the part
31:35
Speaker 2: about salt that is not taught in that doctor's visit
31:40
Speaker 2: when he's saying cut back on the salt is that
31:43
Speaker 2: the type of salt matters. The salt that the health
31:46
Speaker 2: care system is talking about is the processed two minerals, salt,
31:52
Speaker 2: table salt, sodium and chloride. Those are the two minerals
31:56
Speaker 2: in table salt. That's why it's white and it's just
32:00
Speaker 2: really processed. And that those two minerals really wreak havoc
32:06
Speaker 2: on the system. They suck water to them. Like if
32:10
Speaker 2: you've ever done the chemistry experiment with two beakers and
32:14
Speaker 2: one is salty, one is regular water. The water that's
32:18
Speaker 2: plain will seep into the salty water to dilute it out.
32:23
Speaker 2: That's how your body works. If your blood level of
32:26
Speaker 2: salt is too high, you're not drinking enough water, you're
32:29
Speaker 2: eating tons of processed chips and canned soups and things
32:34
Speaker 2: above that 15 milligrams per day, water is starting to
32:38
Speaker 2: be absorbed into your blood vessels and causing your blood
32:42
Speaker 2: pressure to go up, up, up, like a garden hose.
32:45
Speaker 2: The more water you put into that hose, the higher
32:48
Speaker 2: the pressure. So that's kind of, in a nutshell, the
32:52
Speaker 2: problem with salt. But the type of salt matters. So
32:56
Speaker 2: Celtic salt, sea salt, Himalayan salt, those have up to
33:01
Speaker 2: 72 minerals in them. And those other 70 minerals.
33:08
Speaker 2: Are there to help combat that whole process of raising
33:11
Speaker 2: your blood pressure. So yeah, you still don't want to
33:14
Speaker 2: go overboard on salt, but the danger is far less
33:18
Speaker 2: when you eat the right kind of salt and you
33:21
Speaker 2: do it in a moderate way. Like you just eat
33:24
Speaker 2: enough salt. You don't eat way too much, you know, so.
33:28
Speaker 1: Right. Like sprinkling a little in your water or a
33:32
Speaker 1: little bit on your vegetables or just moderate. Just like
33:36
Speaker 1: when you're feeding your body, it's just part of it. Yeah.
33:40
Speaker 1: And I know we touched on movement a little bit,
33:42
Speaker 1: but it's also something out there that can be a
33:44
Speaker 1: little confusing. So how does somebody know that their body
33:49
Speaker 1: needs movement versus recovery? Can more exercise sometimes be the
33:54
Speaker 1: wrong answer for certain people? And what is enough in
33:58
Speaker 1: terms of body movement?
34:00
Speaker 2: So I like the quote that says, perfect health requires
34:05
Speaker 2: perfect circulation. And if any part of your body doesn't
34:11
Speaker 2: have perfect circulation, things will start to grow. Things will
34:16
Speaker 2: start to break down. Things will start to go numb.
34:20
Speaker 2: That's an easy sign that a part of you isn't
34:25
Speaker 2: getting the circulation it needs when it starts to go
34:27
Speaker 2: numb and starts to tingle, right? And that happens throughout
34:31
Speaker 2: your body. And that's why The body has signs, signals
34:35
Speaker 2: that the circulation is off. A knot in your shoulders
34:40
Speaker 2: is a lack of circulation in that muscle.
34:44
Speaker 1: Right.
34:45
Speaker 2: A headache is a lack of circulation to your brain.
34:49
Speaker 2: Like there's so many symptoms that we try to treat
34:51
Speaker 2: with just pills, but really it's just a lack of circulation.
34:56
Speaker 2: And so exercise, that is its only job. Real exercise,
35:01
Speaker 2: that's its only job. It's not to have big, beautiful muscles.
35:05
Speaker 2: I do love big, beautiful muscles, but that's not really
35:08
Speaker 2: the purpose of exercise. You really are looking to circulate
35:13
Speaker 2: your blood throughout your body evenly. So a walk, a
35:20
Speaker 2: walk that speeds up and then slows down. It strengthens
35:23
Speaker 2: your heart, increases your circulation, especially to your feet, where
35:28
Speaker 2: a lot of people suffer with neuropathy and things like that.
35:31
Speaker 2: All right. increases your lung capacity. And so that is
35:36
Speaker 2: my number one recommendation when it comes to movement. But
35:40
Speaker 2: if you do like hitting the gym and all that,
35:42
Speaker 2: just learn also to be moderate. Listen to your body.
35:46
Speaker 2: Don't strain yourself and really give yourself adequate time to
35:50
Speaker 2: recover and stay hydrated. That's a big one.
35:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I think we overcomplicate it. And then
35:58
Speaker 1: People get like, just like with the food noise, they
36:01
Speaker 1: get like overwhelmed with all these expectations when really exercise
36:06
Speaker 1: could be walking around your house, like cleaning, like that
36:10
Speaker 1: is movement. It's body movement. And so I think we
36:14
Speaker 1: just need to simplify things and be less hard on ourselves.
36:18
Speaker 1: And like those little things all add up for sure.
36:23
Speaker 1: Let's talk about stress for a little bit, because I
36:26
Speaker 1: think many people are operating on a baseline that is
36:29
Speaker 1: like essentially like fight or flight all the time without
36:34
Speaker 1: even knowing it. So how can someone tell if they
36:37
Speaker 1: are running like from fight or flight versus being, you know,
36:42
Speaker 1: in a calm state?
36:43
Speaker 2: So that's that's a good one. There's a couple of
36:48
Speaker 2: symptoms that I think are very, very common that people
36:51
Speaker 2: may not contribute to being in that state. One is
36:56
Speaker 2: that wake up at three o'clock in the morning for
37:00
Speaker 2: no reason and just being awake and not being able
37:04
Speaker 2: to go back to sleep. And oftentimes we'll think, oh,
37:07
Speaker 2: it's just I got to pee. But No, like there's
37:10
Speaker 2: usually more to that, especially if it's a consistent thing.
37:13
Speaker 2: So 3 a.m. wake's a big one. If you notice,
37:16
Speaker 2: even while you're listening to this, that your shoulders are tense,
37:20
Speaker 2: that's another one where you just, you're driving and you're tense.
37:24
Speaker 2: You're sitting, you're tense. You're watching TV, you're tense. That's
37:28
Speaker 2: an internal signal that something is going on and it
37:32
Speaker 2: needs to just be let go. Another one is high
37:36
Speaker 2: blood pressure. Josh Axe says that 80% of people's chronic
37:41
Speaker 2: illnesses can be traced back to stress. And so I
37:45
Speaker 2: start there. Whenever I'm talking to someone, I start there with, hey,
37:50
Speaker 2: how is your stress level? Unfortunately, most people don't really
37:54
Speaker 2: have an accurate number or accurate understanding of their stress
38:00
Speaker 2: because they don't know all the different things that are
38:03
Speaker 2: stressing them out. Caffeine, for instance, is a stressor on
38:08
Speaker 2: the body and not like in a like, oh, you're
38:11
Speaker 2: so stressed way, but it like it raises the it
38:14
Speaker 2: actually stimulates the fight or flight system artificially so that
38:18
Speaker 2: you feel the energy so that your heart rate goes
38:20
Speaker 2: up so that you have the brain clarity for a
38:23
Speaker 2: little while and That's all just the fight or flight
38:27
Speaker 2: system being activated. Past issues, trauma, grief, loss, even loss
38:36
Speaker 2: of a job. I've even noticed that a stressor that
38:40
Speaker 2: a lot of people struggle with and they definitely don't
38:43
Speaker 2: contribute to stress is retirement. Retirement changes your entire identity
38:49
Speaker 2: and you've lost a career, basically. And you're completely off
38:56
Speaker 2: kilter and that is a stress. That is a stress.
39:00
Speaker 2: And so there's a lot of different areas in people's
39:03
Speaker 2: lives that they don't identify with stress that's really causing
39:07
Speaker 2: our cortisol to stay high and affecting our body.
39:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And in terms of the blood pressure that
39:15
Speaker 1: you mentioned and you're so passionate about, how often should
39:18
Speaker 1: someone be checking their blood pressure?
39:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you're on blood pressure medications, I recommend
39:25
Speaker 2: that you check it at least every time you are
39:29
Speaker 2: going to take your medications. So take it before you
39:32
Speaker 2: take your medication. There's a lot of people that are
39:35
Speaker 2: suffering with vertigo and things like that because they're not
39:40
Speaker 2: checking their blood pressure before they take their medication. And
39:42
Speaker 2: if your blood pressure is normal or low, You don't
39:45
Speaker 2: want to take your medication. You want to call your doctor,
39:48
Speaker 2: text your doctor and say, listen, this is my blood pressure.
39:52
Speaker 2: Should I skip a dose? You know, so that is very,
39:55
Speaker 2: very important. Always take it before you take your blood
39:57
Speaker 2: pressure medication. If you're not on blood pressure medication, but
40:01
Speaker 2: you feel like you have a blood pressure problem, once
40:04
Speaker 2: a day is fine. My concern for most people, though,
40:08
Speaker 2: that really don't have a problem but are obsessed with
40:11
Speaker 2: the cuff is that it becomes a stressor in their life.
40:16
Speaker 2: What is going to be the number? Am I going
40:18
Speaker 2: to end up on medication? And so the act of
40:21
Speaker 2: taking your blood pressure actually makes your blood pressure higher,
40:26
Speaker 2: makes your cortisol go up. And I say, take your
40:30
Speaker 2: blood pressure when you're having symptoms. Like if you are
40:33
Speaker 2: dizzy or If you have chest pain, if you have
40:36
Speaker 2: an extreme headache suddenly, take your blood pressure. But otherwise,
40:42
Speaker 2: your blood pressure fluctuates every 30 seconds. And so it's
40:46
Speaker 2: just a number to identify problems and then fix the problem,
40:50
Speaker 2: fix the cause. Right.
40:53
Speaker 1: And I guess in terms of blood work too, it
40:55
Speaker 1: should be noted that blood work is a snapshot of
40:58
Speaker 1: that moment in time as well. So I think it's
41:00
Speaker 1: important to get it done several times to look for
41:03
Speaker 1: patterns versus if you're seeing one thing one time, like
41:07
Speaker 1: that really doesn't show that much, right?
41:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. That's such a great point. Patterns and consistency
41:15
Speaker 2: are two pieces of health that a lot of people
41:18
Speaker 2: fail to see. And consistency in little things, you know,
41:22
Speaker 2: patterns in the little things is way more effective than
41:26
Speaker 2: consistency the big diet that you go on January 1st or,
41:31
Speaker 2: you know, the brand new supplement you heard about on TikTok. Exactly, exactly.
41:38
Speaker 1: So if you could tell the millions of people out there,
41:42
Speaker 1: if you could get them to understand one thing before
41:45
Speaker 1: they become sick or the next time they want to
41:48
Speaker 1: make a doctor's appointment, what would it be?
41:51
Speaker 2: Take a moment to listen to that voice in your head.
41:54
Speaker 2: We all have it. We all ignore it a lot.
41:58
Speaker 2: But when it comes to our health, that voice is
42:00
Speaker 2: there to say these alarms are going off and these
42:04
Speaker 2: are some of the things I think could be the reason.
42:08
Speaker 2: And so just really taking a moment in your day,
42:11
Speaker 2: especially on bad days, and just ask yourself, why is
42:16
Speaker 2: this happening? Because oftentimes the immediate thought right after that
42:21
Speaker 2: question is, will be something to do with what's wrong
42:25
Speaker 2: with you. And so, yeah, just spending more time, really
42:29
Speaker 2: just being still, listening to that voice and giving yourself grace,
42:34
Speaker 2: that 80-20 rule.
42:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
42:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
42:38
Speaker 1: Focusing on what's right with you versus we always focus
42:41
Speaker 1: on what's wrong with us. Like, why do I feel
42:44
Speaker 1: like that? What's so wrong with me? But I was
42:47
Speaker 1: thinking about that the other day. I'm like, man, the
42:49
Speaker 1: body is so complex. Like one little I don't know,
42:52
Speaker 1: shoulder pain or like a toe is aching and we're like,
42:55
Speaker 1: oh my God, what's going on? What's wrong with me?
42:57
Speaker 1: But it's like, well, the other 98% of you is
43:00
Speaker 1: doing pretty good, you know? So I like that you
43:03
Speaker 1: said that. It's like focusing on what is right versus
43:07
Speaker 1: what's wrong. And that mindset shift can change everything. I
43:11
Speaker 1: truly believe that if we believe we can heal, if
43:14
Speaker 1: we believe we're going to feel good, we will. It's
43:17
Speaker 1: like if we have That mentality, I think that is
43:21
Speaker 1: also a powerful point in all of this too, without
43:25
Speaker 1: all the other stuff. It's just attitude, gratitude, and the
43:30
Speaker 1: way that we talk to ourselves is so important.
43:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been with so many people on their worst
43:37
Speaker 2: day and it makes me eternally grateful that I can breathe,
43:42
Speaker 2: you know, that I can see, that I can still
43:45
Speaker 2: move something because I've seen so many hundreds of people
43:49
Speaker 2: without that. And the look on their face, oh man,
43:52
Speaker 2: you do not want to experience that, you know? And so, yeah, absolutely.
43:56
Speaker 2: Be grateful, focus on what's going right.
43:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So Joel, tell everyone more about the
44:04
Speaker 1: work that you do and where they can find you.
44:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. So I am a naturopath coach with my wife, Annie,
44:14
Speaker 2: with Everyday Nurse. And we have been doing a lot
44:17
Speaker 2: of coaching together recently. So you can go to bpquiz.com
44:22
Speaker 2: and take a free quiz that helps you identify where
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44:49
Speaker 1: You should bring your wife on the show.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be so much fun. And so before we
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Speaker 1: go today, what is one health habit that you feel
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Speaker 1: that almost everyone could benefit from paying more attention to?
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Speaker 2: Water, water, man, water, water, water. It is a huge.
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Speaker 1: How much water do you drink in a day?
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Speaker 2: So I aim for at least four quarts of water
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Speaker 2: a day. Five and six is where I really feel good, though.
45:17
Speaker 2: But I never use lotions. I never use deodorant. I
45:22
Speaker 2: never use chapstick. Those are all symptoms of dehydration. And
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Speaker 2: our society is dehydrated across the board. The book, The
45:32
Speaker 2: Body's Many Cries for Water, ties the majority of major
45:36
Speaker 2: illnesses to dehydration. dehydration. So check that book out as well.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, water, absolutely water.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, that makes total sense. The body
45:46
Speaker 1: is essentially made of water.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, totally.
45:50
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't we need it? Right. I also I
45:53
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I do when I wake up
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Speaker 1: is I have I call it liters, but essentially it's
45:58
Speaker 1: the same thing as I drink a full liter of
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Speaker 1: water upon waking up. And not just regular water. I
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Speaker 1: make sure it's either spring water or a hydrogen-based water
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Speaker 1: or even distilled water. But I really pay attention and
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Speaker 1: I'm really intentional about the water I'm putting into my body.
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Speaker 1: Because those little things, they do make a difference for sure.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. Especially the old one you get.
46:22
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah. The joint pain and all that
46:26
Speaker 1: stuff starts creeping in. My God.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Some days I feel like I'm 97 years old.
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Speaker 2: Same, same.
46:33
Speaker 1: Well, thanks so much. It's been so much fun. Really
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Speaker 1: looking forward to speaking to you again and getting your
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Speaker 1: wife on the show to hear more about the work
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Speaker 1: that you two do together. I think that'll be so
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Speaker 1: much fun. So I just want to thank you so
46:45
Speaker 1: much for being on the show and for giving the
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Speaker 1: audience such amazing tips on how to feel better.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's been a pleasure. This is fun.
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Speaker 1: So much fun. And thank you guys for tuning in.
46:58
Speaker 1: So your doctor may get a few minutes with you,
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Speaker 1: but you literally get the rest of your life. So
47:04
Speaker 1: today's conversation isn't about becoming your own doctor. It's about
47:08
Speaker 1: becoming an active participant in your own health. So pay attention,
47:13
Speaker 1: know your numbers, ask better questions, move your body, get
47:17
Speaker 1: some sleep, drink a bunch of water, and manage the
47:20
Speaker 1: things that you can control. We will make sure to
47:23
Speaker 1: link Joel's information in the show notes so you can
47:26
Speaker 1: take his quiz at bpquiz.com and also a link to
47:31
Speaker 1: learn more about the work that him and his wife
47:33
Speaker 1: are doing with their coaching and more of the health stuff.
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Speaker 1: If this episode resonated with you and you feel like
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Speaker 1: And remember, you're in control of your health. So take control. Bye, everyone.