Latest / Unafraid Show with George Wrighster / Notre Dame Has To Answer to College Football Fans, Brendan Sorsby Too
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Notre Dame is reporting to College
- 0:04Speaker 1: Football Court to answer for all the allegations from college
- 0:07Speaker 1: football fans the ducking playoff games in USC Who is
- 0:11Speaker 1: to flame Notre Dame police Rise Brending Sowersby's agents says
- 0:16Speaker 1: Cincinnati knew about his gambling issues for two years. If true,
- 0:21Speaker 1: Cincinnati got some explaining to do. Uff Head coach Brian
- 0:25Speaker 1: Hartline just landed a four star quarterback, and I want
- 0:28Speaker 1: to talk about why more quarterbacks need to stop chasing
- 0:32Speaker 1: the power for offers and start chasing the best path.
- 0:35Speaker 1: CBS says, the schools are basically paying for unofficial recruiting visits. Duh,
- 0:40Speaker 1: and my take is simple, stop pretending and let schools
- 0:44Speaker 1: pay for flights and hotels. Oklahoma GM Jim Naggy just
- 0:48Speaker 1: got a monster new deal which proves your kids' best
- 0:53Speaker 1: path to getting rich in sports, and it actually might
- 0:56Speaker 1: not be playing anymore. Roman Rashata has helped create a
- 0:59Speaker 1: whole new athlete claim hustle and dudes are selling their settlements.
- 1:04Speaker 1: The NFL, NFL, PA, MLB, and NBA p A are
- 1:09Speaker 1: now weighing in on college sports legislation, to which I say,
- 1:13Speaker 1: respectful get out of our business that more. Make sure
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- 1:19Speaker 1: about the show.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Let's get too before we get to everything.
- 1:32Speaker 1: The best thing that I saw today was the LA
- 1:35Speaker 1: Chargers social media team doing it big. They pranked their players,
- 1:39Speaker 1: trying to get them to say something nice about their rifles.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Last thing for us, go geators.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Hell no, yeah, all right, thanks God can get a
- 1:50Speaker 3: quick camera.
- 1:52Speaker 2: No quick roll time the camera whenever you're ready.
- 1:55Speaker 1: I'm trying to see who are you talking to?
- 1:56Speaker 2: You're talking to me? Hey, go Tigers man, the real Tigers.
- 1:58Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Never say anything good about your Robbinson, especially not on camera.
- 2:03Speaker 2: It will be used against you. Speaking of things being
- 2:05Speaker 2: used against you.
- 2:07Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to Notre Dame in just a
- 2:09Speaker 1: little bit and them going to college football court. But
- 2:12Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby, his agent now says that Cincinnati knew that
- 2:18Speaker 1: he had been gambling for two years.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Just when you thought that this story.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Was finally heading to the NFL Supplemental Draft and out
- 2:28Speaker 1: of college football's living room, his agent walked back in
- 2:31Speaker 1: with a flamethrower and was like, I'm burning the whole
- 2:34Speaker 1: house down. Ron Slavin, who has been in the NFL
- 2:37Speaker 1: agent for about twenty years. It represents players including Quinn
- 2:41Speaker 1: Ewers Byron Murphy. This dude went a one oh five
- 2:45Speaker 1: point three the fan in Dallas and said that Cincinnati
- 2:48Speaker 1: knew about Brendan Soresby's gambling issues for over two years.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Let me be clear, this is an allegation. Cincinnati denies it,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and there's a big difference between the school knew he
- 2:59Speaker 1: had a gamble in addiction and the school knew that
- 3:02Speaker 1: he was violating n CUBA rules by betting on college football.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Those two things are not the same thing. But if
- 3:09Speaker 1: Cincinnati knew anything close to what Slaven is saying, then
- 3:14Speaker 1: they need to answer for it. How the same amount
- 3:17Speaker 1: of energy that you had for Texas Tech and we
- 3:20Speaker 1: all had for Texas Tech, Cincinnati should be If that's
- 3:24Speaker 1: a ten, this should.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Be a one hundred, and Slaven said quote.
- 3:29Speaker 1: If anybody should be questioned for catching heat, it should
- 3:32Speaker 1: be Cincinnati because according to him, they knew. And that
- 3:36Speaker 1: timeline matters because it reframes the whole story because for
- 3:41Speaker 1: the last week, most of the heat has been on
- 3:44Speaker 1: Soresby Texas Tech. Cody Campbell, the big twelve NCUBA in
- 3:49Speaker 1: the Texas court system, but he's slaving, is saying like,
- 3:52Speaker 1: hold up, why are we acting like Cincinnati's innocent? And
- 3:56Speaker 1: it's a fair question, especially if there is evidence to
- 3:59Speaker 1: support it. Now. When this first came out, one of
- 4:03Speaker 1: the biggest questions that I had was who told and
- 4:06Speaker 1: why right? And then I asked if Cincinnati knew anything?
- 4:10Speaker 1: And this is from people inside the know, inside the circle,
- 4:15Speaker 1: and they were like, we can't verify, but there are
- 4:18Speaker 1: some questions and there are some reasons to believe that
- 4:21Speaker 1: that could be possibly true. So if they knew for
- 4:25Speaker 1: over two years, you know, why only come public after
- 4:29Speaker 1: Texas Tech got pressure from the Big twelve because the
- 4:33Speaker 1: legal pathway it got messy, and Soresby had seven days
- 4:37Speaker 1: left before the supplemental draft deadline. This is where the
- 4:41Speaker 1: timing matters because it doesn't automatically make slavery wrong, but
- 4:45Speaker 1: it also does mean that we should ask whether this
- 4:48Speaker 1: is accountability or if this is strategy. And I know
- 4:52Speaker 1: that some people hate when you ask the question, but
- 4:54Speaker 1: I played the game. I've been in the locker rooms,
- 4:57Speaker 1: I've dealt with agents, I've watched people leak information and
- 5:01Speaker 1: even hit me with information when situations feel like that
- 5:04Speaker 1: they started slipping away. So sometimes the truth comes out
- 5:07Speaker 1: because people finally want to be honest, and sometimes the
- 5:12Speaker 1: truth comes out because somebody wants to move the smoke
- 5:15Speaker 1: from one side of the room and blow it over
- 5:17Speaker 1: to the other side of the broom. Now. Slaven also
- 5:20Speaker 1: said that Texas Tech basically nudged Sores Be toward the
- 5:24Speaker 1: supplemental Draft, and his argument was that this was not
- 5:28Speaker 1: Sores be quitting on college football, that this was Texas
- 5:31Speaker 1: Tech saying, look at the uncertainty. We don't know where
- 5:35Speaker 1: this whole thing is going. So that sounds like that
- 5:38Speaker 1: Texas Tech was caving under the pressure. And from SoRs perspective,
- 5:42Speaker 1: it makes sense like you won in court, now you
- 5:45Speaker 1: can play. Then the Big Twelve was like not so fast.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Then people started asking about the Big Twelve Championship game
- 5:51Speaker 1: sex sanctions on Texas Tech, and Texas Tech is like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 5:55Speaker 1: We were willing to pay you five million dollars, We
- 5:58Speaker 1: willing to take sanctions for you. That's a whole different story.
- 6:00Speaker 1: So Brendan Sorosby had to ask himself. But one of
- 6:04Speaker 1: the things that people were asking though, is when did
- 6:07Speaker 1: slavey his agent? No, So now think about this. He
- 6:11Speaker 1: didn't get hired by Brendan Soresby until summer of twenty
- 6:15Speaker 1: twenty five. So slaven is saying that this was known
- 6:20Speaker 1: by Cincinnati before he even came into the picture. Now,
- 6:24Speaker 1: the way things work and the way people hide things,
- 6:27Speaker 1: I highly doubt that Slavian knew anything about this until recently,
- 6:34Speaker 1: until it probably right before it came out, because if
- 6:37Speaker 1: you are Brendan Soresby, why would you tell anybody? You
- 6:40Speaker 1: wouldn't You're hoping that this states buried. But then the
- 6:44Speaker 1: question is how many NFL teams are interesting? And he
- 6:47Speaker 1: said that his agent said the twenty six out of
- 6:50Speaker 1: the thirty two NFL teams have reached out to do
- 6:53Speaker 1: their due diligence. Now that I one hundred percent believe
- 6:57Speaker 1: because the NFL is not emotional about this stuff the
- 7:00Speaker 1: way that fans are. Fans will be like I would
- 7:02Speaker 1: never take him. NFL teams be like, what round? How
- 7:05Speaker 1: much did it cost? Let's get to the details of this.
- 7:08Speaker 1: How far away can we get away from this? How
- 7:11Speaker 1: cheap can we get him to see if he's a
- 7:13Speaker 1: really changed man? Because he can throw a deep out,
- 7:16Speaker 1: throw a post and read the defense and we might
- 7:20Speaker 1: be able to talk about the rehabilitation in this situation.
- 7:23Speaker 1: This story has taken a complete left turn, and it matters. Now,
- 7:28Speaker 1: let's talk about something positive. Ryan Hartline, new head coach
- 7:32Speaker 1: at us SELF South Florida. He just landed a kid
- 7:35Speaker 1: named Kevin Verpale, a quarterback and who was previously committed
- 7:40Speaker 1: to Pitt. Now on three and Rivals list him as
- 7:43Speaker 1: a four star quarterback. And this matters one because he's
- 7:48Speaker 1: a legacy USF kid because his father and his uncle
- 7:51Speaker 1: both played there. So I already loved this story. But
- 7:54Speaker 1: the reason why I love this even more is because
- 7:57Speaker 1: not every single quarterback needs to go to a power
- 8:02Speaker 1: for a school, and a lot more big name quarterbacks
- 8:06Speaker 1: need to start considering Group of five schools because more
- 8:10Speaker 1: and more quarterbacks need to understand that this is not
- 8:14Speaker 1: a short term situation. That just because you can get
- 8:18Speaker 1: two million dollars to go to Vanderbilt doesn't mean that
- 8:22Speaker 1: you shouldn't take seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to
- 8:25Speaker 1: go to South Florida or half a million dollars to
- 8:28Speaker 1: go to South Florida. Because this is the new era
- 8:31Speaker 1: of thinking because so many parents and so many kids,
- 8:35Speaker 1: they want the biggest logo, they want the biggest nio,
- 8:38Speaker 1: and everybody wants to, you know, make the edit with
- 8:41Speaker 1: all the smoke, with the Lamborghini, the private jet, the
- 8:45Speaker 1: glove reveal and the caption that says home.
- 8:48Speaker 2: But quarterbacks actually have to ask a.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Different question because there's only one of them on the
- 8:52Speaker 1: field at the same time. Where can I actually become
- 8:55Speaker 1: a quarterback and where can I get to play?
- 8:58Speaker 2: Because if your quarterback can.
- 9:00Speaker 1: You go to the wrong school. It's not like going
- 9:02Speaker 1: to the wrong school as a defensive end. A defensive
- 9:05Speaker 1: end can rotate. A wide receiver can get ten snaps.
- 9:09Speaker 1: You only got to be one of the top five
- 9:11Speaker 1: or six wide receivers to get playing time and then
- 9:14Speaker 1: for people to see you. A running back can be
- 9:16Speaker 1: part of a committee, a corner. He can play nickel,
- 9:19Speaker 1: he can play dime, he can play special teams anything.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Quarterback one ball, one starter, and most coaches do not
- 9:26Speaker 1: even enjoy playing quarterback roulette unless their job is on
- 9:29Speaker 1: the line.
- 9:30Speaker 2: So if you are going.
- 9:31Speaker 1: To a school as one of the top two or
- 9:34Speaker 1: three quarterbacks in that building, you know, like preferably number
- 9:39Speaker 1: two with a realistic path to play. Then you better
- 9:42Speaker 1: think long and hard before you sign, and then think
- 9:46Speaker 1: about the transfer portal, because if you are a big
- 9:49Speaker 1: name power for school, does it make more sense to
- 9:53Speaker 1: spend two million dollars million and a half dollars on
- 9:57Speaker 1: a five star quarterback who you don't know how good
- 10:01Speaker 1: he's gonna be. He's just a ba La Hope versus
- 10:05Speaker 1: Trinidad Chambliss who came from a Division two or an
- 10:09Speaker 1: FCS kid or a kid from a group of five
- 10:12Speaker 1: that absolutely balled out and you know for sure he
- 10:15Speaker 1: can play. Think about this. Would you rather have Byron Brown,
- 10:20Speaker 1: who came from USF last year come be your starting quarterback?
- 10:24Speaker 1: Or would you rather a five star kid out of
- 10:26Speaker 1: high school who's not gonna be good as a freshman
- 10:29Speaker 1: even if he shows promise. You can't win a national
- 10:32Speaker 1: championship with him, but you might be able to do
- 10:35Speaker 1: it with that older kid. So that is something to
- 10:37Speaker 1: think about. Because the worst thing a young quarterback can
- 10:41Speaker 1: do is sit still. And I'm not saying that sitting
- 10:44Speaker 1: is always bad. Sometimes sitting behind the right guy in
- 10:47Speaker 1: the right room, right offensive coordinator can actually make you
- 10:51Speaker 1: significantly better. But sitting behind three other former blue chip
- 10:56Speaker 1: kids in an offense that changes coordinators every year, while
- 11:00Speaker 1: the fan bases out here screaming for the next savior.
- 11:03Speaker 1: That's not development, it's not Look at some of the
- 11:06Speaker 1: quarterbacks have been treated. You know who've created value by playing.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Look at Diego Pavia. He bailed out in New Mexico State,
- 11:14Speaker 1: then turned himself into a story at Vanderbilt. Byron Brown,
- 11:18Speaker 1: who I mentioned, became a name at USL. Drew Mestemaker
- 11:22Speaker 1: made himself valuable at North Texas before moving to Oklahoma State.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Trinidad Chamblers built it at D two. These kids weren't
- 11:31Speaker 1: crowned coming out of high school. They became valuable because
- 11:34Speaker 1: they played football, and you know the things that quarterbacks
- 11:38Speaker 1: are supposed to do exactly that. And this is where
- 11:41Speaker 1: the five star conversation gets uncomfortable. You want a five
- 11:44Speaker 1: star who sits or a four star who plays. Do
- 11:47Speaker 1: you want the guy getting a big check to run
- 11:50Speaker 1: scout team or the guy putting throws up on tape
- 11:53Speaker 1: every single Saturday? Because at some point NFL scouts are
- 11:57Speaker 1: not drafting your commitment graphic, They're drafting your answers. What
- 12:02Speaker 1: do you do on third down. Can you handle pressure,
- 12:04Speaker 1: can you play from behind? Can you process the middle
- 12:08Speaker 1: of the field. Are you a good leader? Are you
- 12:11Speaker 1: on timing on target? And you can't prove that care
- 12:14Speaker 1: and the clipboard. Look at ty Thompson, look at Malachi Nelson.
- 12:18Speaker 1: All of these guys who had real talent and the
- 12:21Speaker 1: bodies look good ended up in quarterback rooms where the
- 12:24Speaker 1: path got complicated. And then once the path gets complicated,
- 12:28Speaker 1: now you're transferring into a new competition, learning a new
- 12:32Speaker 1: offense under a new staff with a new fan base
- 12:36Speaker 1: who didn't recruit you at first, while everybody is sitting
- 12:39Speaker 1: there wondering why it didn't work in the first place.
- 12:41Speaker 1: That's a lot So for Kevin verpel usf makes sense.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Legacy connection coach with momentum, a program that where he
- 12:52Speaker 1: can matter, and a path where he's not just an
- 12:55Speaker 1: expensive helmet in the room.
- 12:56Speaker 2: This could be the way for a lot of them.
- 12:59Speaker 1: And quarterback I'm asking which school looks best on signing day?
- 13:03Speaker 1: Which school gives me the best chance to, you know,
- 13:05Speaker 1: still matter three years from now. That's the question that
- 13:09Speaker 1: you need to be asking next day. Schools are clearly
- 13:13Speaker 1: and obviously paying for unofficial visits. So let's stop pretending
- 13:20Speaker 1: and let them play. And this, honestly is one of
- 13:24Speaker 1: the dumbest fake scandals in college football. Unofficial visits cause
- 13:31Speaker 1: CBS Sports Chris Hummer. He wrote about, you know the
- 13:36Speaker 1: shadow economy around unofficial recruiting visits, you know, cashing birthday cards,
- 13:42Speaker 1: money moving through agents, boosters taking care of it, gift cards,
- 13:48Speaker 1: you know, nil deals being used to cover travel that
- 13:51Speaker 1: schools technically are not supposed to be paying for. And
- 13:55Speaker 1: my take is very simple on this. Let schools pay
- 13:58Speaker 1: for unofficial visits full stop flight, hotel, transportation, food, reasonable expenses.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Pay for it, report it, and stop pretending like everybody
- 14:10Speaker 1: ain't doing it, because if you think about it, the
- 14:13Speaker 1: whole goal is to get kids to the right spot.
- 14:16Speaker 1: How are you supposed to get on campus that many times?
- 14:19Speaker 1: Like kids are kids are going to you know, kids
- 14:22Speaker 1: from places are going to Alabama three four five six times,
- 14:25Speaker 1: going to Ohio State three four five six times, Oregon,
- 14:29Speaker 1: USC Miami, wherever it is. That costs money, hotels cost money.
- 14:36Speaker 1: His parents ain't paying for that. Even if you got money,
- 14:39Speaker 1: you're not doing that. That's a lot. And this is
- 14:42Speaker 1: where college football actually gets ridiculous because the school can
- 14:46Speaker 1: spend millions on a locker room with led lights, a barbershop,
- 14:51Speaker 1: a slide, nutrition center, nap pods of waterfall, putting greens,
- 14:57Speaker 1: a hallway that looks like a nightclub for people with
- 15:00Speaker 1: three point eight GBA's, and we're supposed to draw the
- 15:03Speaker 1: moral line at paying for a kid's mom to fly
- 15:06Speaker 1: to Florida to see the campus more than once to
- 15:10Speaker 1: make sure that her kid is comfortable where he's.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Gonna go to school. Come on, man, what are we doing.
- 15:16Speaker 1: If a school wants a kid to visit, the school
- 15:19Speaker 1: should be able to help the kid business.
- 15:21Speaker 2: That's not corruption, that's logistics.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Now. I understand why, though, why the rule existed. Why
- 15:27Speaker 1: the difference between an unofficial visit and an official visit
- 15:31Speaker 1: two different things?
- 15:32Speaker 2: I get it.
- 15:33Speaker 1: The idea was to stop the rich schools from flying
- 15:36Speaker 1: in every recruiting America, you know, around the country every weekend,
- 15:40Speaker 1: and turning recruiting into a travel arms race. And that
- 15:44Speaker 1: made sense in the old world. But we are not
- 15:47Speaker 1: in the old world. We're living in twenty twenty six,
- 15:50Speaker 1: CBS reported examples of players receiving money through nil style
- 15:54Speaker 1: contracts for unofficial business, including a high profile recruit getting
- 16:00Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars tied to a tailgate appearance and then
- 16:04Speaker 1: he had to make three Instagram posts and then sign
- 16:07Speaker 1: some memorabilia.
- 16:08Speaker 2: So what are we even doing. We're not preventing payment,
- 16:12Speaker 2: We're just making the payment weirder like, instead of saying
- 16:15Speaker 2: here's a travel stipend, schools are saying here's ten thousand
- 16:19Speaker 2: dollars for one tailgate appearance, three posts and ten autographs.
- 16:23Speaker 1: That's not cleaner. That's like costplay compliance. And you know
- 16:27Speaker 1: who benefits from.
- 16:28Speaker 2: The confusing rules.
- 16:30Speaker 1: The people who are already good at breaking them. The
- 16:33Speaker 1: schools with the most aggressive collectives, shadow agents and handlers.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Those are the people who benefit the most. And the
- 16:42Speaker 1: boosters who know how to move the money. The programs
- 16:45Speaker 1: that got general managers, capologists, lawyers, and agents they on
- 16:49Speaker 1: speed dial. The family that does everything by the book,
- 16:52Speaker 1: they get stuck paying for flights. The family that knows
- 16:56Speaker 1: the game gets taken care of. That's not fairness, This
- 16:59Speaker 1: is an invitation to lie. Better think about this. Tennessee
- 17:03Speaker 1: Balls they got hit hard over recruiting violations right and
- 17:07Speaker 1: their visit violations. Arizona State got hot hammered with no
- 17:11Speaker 1: show what would show cause penalties tied to recruiting issues
- 17:14Speaker 1: during the COVID.
- 17:15Speaker 2: DAD period and back then, paid.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Unofficial visits were treated like, you know, the kind of
- 17:20Speaker 1: thing that could bury a staff. Now the NC DOUBLEA
- 17:23Speaker 1: is trying to put out you know, fifty fires at once,
- 17:26Speaker 1: revenue sharing, the transfer rules, nil enforcement, gambling, eligibility, lawsuits,
- 17:32Speaker 1: you got Congress stuff of conference realignment. At some point
- 17:36Speaker 1: the end, the NC DOUBLEA is like a substitute teacher
- 17:40Speaker 1: is trying to stop a food fight with the principal
- 17:43Speaker 1: being sued in the parking lot. And while all of
- 17:46Speaker 1: that is happening, everybody they are you got people sneaking
- 17:50Speaker 1: recruits on campus however they can. So the answer is,
- 17:54Speaker 1: let's make it legal, put a cap on it, make
- 17:57Speaker 1: schools disclose it. One flight, one hotel for the recruit
- 18:01Speaker 1: and their guardians, reasonable meals, no cruises, no birthday cards,
- 18:05Speaker 1: stuff with cash, no booster showing up like Santa Claus
- 18:09Speaker 1: with a venmo. Just pay for the visit. Because the
- 18:12Speaker 1: current system does not stop cheating, it rewards people who
- 18:15Speaker 1: can cheat creatively. And if college football is going to
- 18:18Speaker 1: have rules, they should have rules. People can actually follow
- 18:22Speaker 1: those rules without needing a lawyer and agent at a
- 18:25Speaker 1: burner phone.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Next thing, then.
- 18:27Speaker 1: People who help set them up. Those are the people
- 18:29Speaker 1: who get big paychecks. We got to talk about mister
- 18:32Speaker 1: Jim Naggy, who's been a guest on this program before.
- 18:36Speaker 1: He's Oklahoma's general manager, who used to be in charge
- 18:39Speaker 1: of the Reces Bowl Senior Bowl. Oklahoma just signed him
- 18:43Speaker 1: to a new multi year contract worth four point six
- 18:47Speaker 1: million dollars. He's set to make one million dollars in
- 18:50Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, with one hundred thousand dollars annual raises
- 18:54Speaker 1: after that. And this should make every single sports parents
- 18:58Speaker 1: sit up straight, people, because becoming an elite athlete, it
- 19:02Speaker 1: might not be your child's best shot at financial security
- 19:06Speaker 1: in sports anymore. It might be working in the machine.
- 19:10Speaker 1: Because for generations, parents looked at sports like this, Can
- 19:13Speaker 1: I get play? Can I kid get a scholarship? Can
- 19:17Speaker 1: I kid go pro? Can I ki'd make life changing money?
- 19:20Speaker 1: And yes, that path still exists, but it's narrow and
- 19:24Speaker 1: it's brutal, and it can disappear with a knee injury,
- 19:27Speaker 1: a bad coach, a bad depth chart, one missed evaluation,
- 19:32Speaker 1: one transfer mistake at ankle spring at the wrong time.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Like look at the other side of sports though, parents
- 19:39Speaker 1: and people. You can stay in sports that you love,
- 19:43Speaker 1: but there are so many other jobs that are actual careers.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Because playing sports is a job. It is a temporary thing.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Your NFL career average career three point four years. That's it.
- 19:54Speaker 1: But you know how long you can be a general manager.
- 19:56Speaker 1: You can run a scouting department, be a personnel director
- 20:00Speaker 1: and cap manager, strength coaches, coach and analysts, recruiting director,
- 20:07Speaker 1: creative directors, nils, strategists, roster manager.
- 20:12Speaker 2: You can be.
- 20:13Speaker 1: You can go into TV, into media, you can do
- 20:17Speaker 1: the music for the for sports like you got people
- 20:21Speaker 1: making seven figures who never have to run a forty,
- 20:24Speaker 1: never have to get surgery after they get hurt, never
- 20:28Speaker 1: have to take a charge, never have to wonder if
- 20:31Speaker 1: their hamstring is gonna cost them a future. Think about this.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three, the number of
- 20:37Speaker 1: college football assistant coaches making seven figures jumped from twenty
- 20:41Speaker 1: one to sixty six. And that's just the coaches. Defensive
- 20:45Speaker 1: coordinators are making two three and a half million dollars.
- 20:49Speaker 1: You got strength coaches making real money. Athletic directors making
- 20:53Speaker 1: CEO money. Now college football gms are getting paid like
- 20:56Speaker 1: coordinators used to. That's a change how we talk to
- 21:00Speaker 1: our kids. Because not every kid is going to the NFL.
- 21:03Speaker 1: But a kid who loves football, who understands people, studies film,
- 21:07Speaker 1: communicates well, and learns the business of roster building.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Oh, that kid might be you know.
- 21:13Speaker 1: In sports for forty years. And I'm not telling kids
- 21:16Speaker 1: not to chase the dream. Chase it, compete, train, go,
- 21:21Speaker 1: get everything that you possibly can. But parents stop acting
- 21:25Speaker 1: like the only valuable sports dream is wearing the jersey.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Sometimes the real money is in deciding who gets the jersey.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Jim Naggi went from Senior Bowl director to Oklahoma and
- 21:37Speaker 1: now has a contract that most former players would love
- 21:40Speaker 1: to have. Bro I would love to have a GM
- 21:44Speaker 1: job million dollars a year. Yeah, we can do that.
- 21:47Speaker 1: Why because personnel is the new battlefield. Roster construction is
- 21:51Speaker 1: everything to transfer portal, turn college football into free agency,
- 21:56Speaker 1: revenue shareing, turn roster management into budget management, high school recruiting,
- 22:01Speaker 1: porter recruiting, nil evaluation, roster retention, scouting. That's not a
- 22:06Speaker 1: side department anymore. That is at the front and center
- 22:11Speaker 1: of the sport and the best part you get longevity.
- 22:14Speaker 1: Longevity no coach is yelling at you. In practice, that
- 22:18Speaker 1: coach can't decide your financial future. So parents, yes, support
- 22:22Speaker 1: your kids athletic dream, but also teach them the sport,
- 22:25Speaker 1: teaching the business, teach them the contracts, teach them in
- 22:28Speaker 1: the scouting, teach them how to watch film, Teach them
- 22:30Speaker 1: how to build relationships. Because the next million dollar opportunity
- 22:34Speaker 1: in football might not require your kid to be six
- 22:37Speaker 1: or five and run four five. It might be for
- 22:39Speaker 1: them to understand why the kid who runs a four
- 22:41Speaker 1: or five is not worth the money. Say speaking of
- 22:44Speaker 1: being worth the money, though, I don't like this because
- 22:47Speaker 1: there's a new way of making money in sports without
- 22:51Speaker 1: being on the field. Let's talk about Roman Reshot. Roman
- 22:55Speaker 1: Rashata brother of Jayden Reshot, and he has reportedly eight
- 23:00Speaker 1: seven figures acting as a referred connecting athletes to companies
- 23:05Speaker 1: that buy house settlement claims. His name is mentioned, but
- 23:08Speaker 1: let's not forget that he's not the bad guy.
- 23:12Speaker 2: In the situation.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Even though the people are gonna point to him as
- 23:15Speaker 1: the bad guy, he's not. Sportcode reported that he became
- 23:18Speaker 1: the top earning from athlete creditor, who is a company
- 23:23Speaker 1: that is buying claims from the athletes who are set
- 23:26Speaker 1: to receive settlement payments from the house versus the NC
- 23:30Speaker 1: double A. And when I first saw this, I had
- 23:32Speaker 1: two reactions. One that sounds sketch. Two this is exactly
- 23:37Speaker 1: the kind of business opportunities that appears when a new
- 23:41Speaker 1: money system gets created and nobody fully understands it yet.
- 23:44Speaker 2: So here's the basic idea.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Some former athletes who are owed money through the house settlement,
- 23:49Speaker 1: and I'm talking about big money, Like if you were
- 23:53Speaker 1: a kid that was at you know, Southern Myss, you
- 23:55Speaker 1: might be doing a few thousand dollars, but if you
- 23:58Speaker 1: were Marcus Mariota you might be doing millions. But some
- 24:01Speaker 1: of that money is supposed to be paid over time,
- 24:03Speaker 1: and people do not want to wait for money all
- 24:06Speaker 1: the time, and future money is not worth as much
- 24:10Speaker 1: as you know money right now. So so companies like
- 24:15Speaker 1: this athlete creditor they offer them cash in exchange for
- 24:20Speaker 1: the right to collect their future payments.
- 24:23Speaker 2: And no, this is not new.
- 24:25Speaker 1: This is basically JG Wentworth for college athletes like Jay
- 24:31Speaker 1: G Wentworth eight seven to seven cash Now like it's
- 24:35Speaker 1: my settlement and I want it now. That that one now,
- 24:39Speaker 1: Roman Rashada reportedly sold his own claim, which was around
- 24:43Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars, for a little under twenty thousand up front,
- 24:47Speaker 1: and then he started referring to other athletes. This is
- 24:50Speaker 1: why I say he's not He's not the bad guy.
- 24:53Speaker 1: The bad guy is the fact that these are This
- 24:56Speaker 1: is a money making opportunity. But at the same time,
- 25:00Speaker 1: people need money now, so are you actually abusing it?
- 25:03Speaker 1: Because this is kind of paid a loaners and that
- 25:05Speaker 1: referral business turned into real money. And this is where
- 25:08Speaker 1: I'm torn because on one hand, I respect seeing an
- 25:12Speaker 1: opportunity and athletes have been the product forever. Now somebody
- 25:16Speaker 1: from an athlete family figured out a way to make
- 25:18Speaker 1: money in the financial ecosystem around athletes, that is business.
- 25:23Speaker 1: But on the other hand, this is where former athletes
- 25:26Speaker 1: get exploited because when you are young and when you
- 25:29Speaker 1: need cash, if you're still in your twenties, you didn't
- 25:32Speaker 1: go to the league, or you went to the league
- 25:33Speaker 1: and had a cup of coffee, you may not fully
- 25:36Speaker 1: understand the long term value of your claim because it's
- 25:39Speaker 1: easy to take less now and regret it later and
- 25:43Speaker 1: before anybody gets judgmental, like, let's be real, a lot
- 25:47Speaker 1: of people would take the money now, especially former athletes
- 25:50Speaker 1: who were never millionaires, especially guys who have bills, especially
- 25:54Speaker 1: guys who are done playing and trying to start a
- 25:56Speaker 1: life or a family. It's easy to say, yeah, just
- 26:00Speaker 1: take it over to ten years when your rent is
- 26:03Speaker 1: do on Friday. So I'm not here to shame anybody,
- 26:06Speaker 1: but I am saying that athletes need education before they
- 26:09Speaker 1: sell anything. Do not sell your claim because somebody in
- 26:13Speaker 1: the group chat said it worked for them. Do not
- 26:15Speaker 1: sell your claim because the process looks easy. Do not
- 26:19Speaker 1: sell your claim without asking the most important questions.
- 26:23Speaker 2: What is the discount rate? What are the fees?
- 26:25Speaker 1: What happens if payments are delayed? What rights am I
- 26:28Speaker 1: giving up? Who is advising me? Because quick money can
- 26:32Speaker 1: actually be expensive money. And here's the larger point about this,
- 26:36Speaker 1: the whole bigger point. College sports created a new economy
- 26:40Speaker 1: nil deals, revenue sharing, settlement payments, claim you know, claims buyers,
- 26:47Speaker 1: you got agents, collectives, roster building, visit payments, referral fees.
- 26:53Speaker 1: And every time a new economy gets created, the first
- 26:56Speaker 1: people to make real money are the people who understand
- 26:59Speaker 1: the pay work, and not always are the people who
- 27:03Speaker 1: created the value the people getting the value. And this
- 27:06Speaker 1: is why athlete education matters. Financial literacy is not a
- 27:10Speaker 1: cute seminar during freshman orientation. It's protection because the money
- 27:15Speaker 1: is here now and so are the people who are
- 27:18Speaker 1: trying to get a piece of it. And then you
- 27:19Speaker 1: got the people who are trying to keep athletes from
- 27:22Speaker 1: getting more of a piece of it. And this is
- 27:24Speaker 1: a quick hitter here. Because the NFL, NFLPA, Major League Baseball,
- 27:29Speaker 1: and the NBA Players Association, they have weighed in in
- 27:33Speaker 1: support of the Protect College Sports Acts Now. ESPN reported
- 27:38Speaker 1: that the leagues and the union sent statements to Congress
- 27:41Speaker 1: supporting the bill while encouraging more negotiations. The AP then
- 27:46Speaker 1: reported that the bill cleared a key Senate commerce hurdle
- 27:50Speaker 1: that still faces major opposition from the SEC, Big Ten
- 27:54Speaker 1: and others.
- 27:55Speaker 2: And my take is very simple.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Everybody that I named, NBA, NFL, all the PA's mind
- 28:01Speaker 1: your damn business, stay in your lane, farm your own land. Now,
- 28:06Speaker 1: I understand our pro leagues care because sports are part
- 28:10Speaker 1: of their labor pipeline. College football is the NFL's unpaid
- 28:14Speaker 1: minor league. And yes, I know that players are getting
- 28:16Speaker 1: paid now, but you understand what I mean. College basketball, IFEC,
- 28:19Speaker 1: the NBA, Olympic Sports feed international competition, so the stability
- 28:24Speaker 1: of college athletics matters. I get it, but I'm always
- 28:29Speaker 1: suspicious when professional leagues start talking about what college athletes
- 28:34Speaker 1: should accept because the NFL, they're not volunteering to pay
- 28:38Speaker 1: for college football. They're not volunteering to not play on Saturdays.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Laws have prohibited it. Otherwise they would during the regular
- 28:46Speaker 1: college football season. Major League Baseball, they're not cutting checks
- 28:49Speaker 1: to the MAC. The NBAPA is not responsible for keeping
- 28:53Speaker 1: women's volleyball alive at the mid major level. So when
- 28:56Speaker 1: everybody shows up to the influence the bill, I want
- 29:00Speaker 1: to know, are you helping the athletes or are you
- 29:03Speaker 1: protecting your pipeline. It's the NFLPA, because the easiest position
- 29:08Speaker 1: for a player's association should be college athletes need collective
- 29:12Speaker 1: bargaining period not we support some provisions, we encourage negotiations.
- 29:19Speaker 1: This bill has promised a union should be screaming from
- 29:22Speaker 1: the mountaintop that labor needs representation, because that's the whole
- 29:27Speaker 1: point of a union. Now, maybe the NFLPA believes the
- 29:30Speaker 1: bill is a step towards stability. Maybe they think that
- 29:34Speaker 1: some structure is better than the current chaos. But if
- 29:37Speaker 1: I make college athlete, I do not want the pro
- 29:40Speaker 1: unions speaking around me, especially not if this the way
- 29:43Speaker 1: you go do it. I want somebody representing me, because
- 29:46Speaker 1: right now, college football has owners without admitting that they're owners,
- 29:51Speaker 1: employees without admitting that they're employees, salary budgets without admitting
- 29:56Speaker 1: that they are salaries, and labor rules with out a
- 30:00Speaker 1: real labor agreement that is not sustainable. So yeah, Congress
- 30:05Speaker 1: may get involved, But if the end result is your schools, conferences,
- 30:08Speaker 1: and leagues and politicians deciding what athletes can and cannot
- 30:12Speaker 1: do without real representation, then we are putting a new
- 30:15Speaker 1: code of paint on the same.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Old house, and that house is already leaning.
- 30:20Speaker 1: But you guys, it is time for Notre Dame to
- 30:24Speaker 1: go to college football court. They have to answer for
- 30:28Speaker 1: all of their crimes. Let's get to it, like share, subscribe,
- 30:33Speaker 1: get notifications and uh yeah, hopping them comments. The Notre
- 30:38Speaker 1: Dame fighting Irish are in college football court today. They
- 30:42Speaker 1: must answer for their crimes. They have been charged with
- 30:47Speaker 1: ten counts of all sorts of things and their defense
- 30:51Speaker 1: attorney today the man from Irish Breakdown, mister Brian Driscoll.
- 30:57Speaker 2: Brian, welcome to the show.
- 30:59Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I am ready to rock
- 31:00Speaker 3: and roll.
- 31:01Speaker 2: Hopefully you're not too offended.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I'm a little nervous. You know, you
- 31:06Speaker 3: got my dad's hairdoo from the seventies, you got the
- 31:08Speaker 3: USC colors on, you know. But I'm ready.
- 31:11Speaker 1: I think I'm ready for it. I got it balanced,
- 31:13Speaker 1: I have. Yeah, see, I got some Notre Dame colors
- 31:17Speaker 1: under us. We were talking about rocket before the show.
- 31:19Speaker 3: I think I'm expecting a fair and balanced judicial system today.
- 31:23Speaker 2: That's the best that I can do.
- 31:24Speaker 1: First charge against Notre Dame is one count of espionage,
- 31:31Speaker 1: which is a capital crime, because you're being charged with
- 31:34Speaker 1: college football espionage, of having no loyalty to a conference.
- 31:40Speaker 1: And how does Notre Dame plead Because espionage it aims
- 31:46Speaker 1: to discover the political, military, or industrial secrets of a
- 31:50Speaker 1: rival government, organization, or competitor in order to gain a
- 31:54Speaker 1: strategic or financial advantage. And that is exactly what Notre
- 31:59Speaker 1: Dame is doing by not joining a conference.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Your honor, we are not guilty of these charges. In fact,
- 32:05Speaker 3: this is nothing but mere projection. Because if you want
- 32:08Speaker 3: to talk about loyalty, let's begin loyalty to whom the
- 32:12Speaker 3: Big Ten who signs an agreement with the Pac twelve
- 32:15Speaker 3: all while stabbing them in the back to take their
- 32:17Speaker 3: top four programs. As far as loyalty, like the SEC
- 32:22Speaker 3: that says, hey, let's go take Texas and Oklahoma from
- 32:25Speaker 3: the Big twelve, where was their loyalty? Then? Where were
- 32:29Speaker 3: those programs loyalty?
- 32:30Speaker 1: Then?
- 32:30Speaker 3: I want to remind you of your honor that in
- 32:32Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight, the last time Notre Dame won a
- 32:34Speaker 3: national championship, there were over twenty independent programs. Notre Dame
- 32:38Speaker 3: has done nothing but be the same. In nineteen eighty eight,
- 32:41Speaker 3: the number one, two, three, and five ranked teams in
- 32:45Speaker 3: the country were all independence Notre Dame, Florida State, Miami,
- 32:49Speaker 3: and West Virginia. The only one that wasn't was Michigan.
- 32:52Speaker 3: I'd like to also remind your honor that there were
- 32:55Speaker 3: two occasions where Notre Dame wanted to join the Big Ten. First,
- 33:00Speaker 3: own is the Western Conference then known as the Big
- 33:02Speaker 3: Ten Conference twice in Notre Dame's history. First, back when
- 33:06Speaker 3: newt Rockney was around in Notre Dame. Notre Dame tried
- 33:09Speaker 3: to join the Western Conference that became the Big Ten.
- 33:13Speaker 3: Michigan State pro Notre Dame, perdue pro Notre Dame. One
- 33:17Speaker 3: school said no, we don't like Catholics, we don't like
- 33:21Speaker 3: the we don't like this school that is a private school.
- 33:24Speaker 3: We don't like this school that we taught how to
- 33:26Speaker 3: play football. And then they started doing it better than us.
- 33:29Speaker 3: That's why we stopped playing them. When they first started
- 33:31Speaker 3: beating us. That would be the University of Michigan and
- 33:33Speaker 3: Fielding Yost. Notre Dame wanted to join a conference, but
- 33:36Speaker 3: Michigan said no. Notre Dame was then forced to become
- 33:40Speaker 3: a national powerhouse because Michigan started telling teams in the
- 33:43Speaker 3: region don't play Notre Dame. So we were forced to
- 33:47Speaker 3: play a national schedule, hop on a train, go across
- 33:50Speaker 3: the country to play USC, drive to or get on
- 33:52Speaker 3: the train to New York play Army when they were
- 33:54Speaker 3: a powerhouse. Then decades later, Notre Dame tried again to
- 34:00Speaker 3: the Big Ten Conference, and once again, because Notre Dame's
- 34:03Speaker 3: a Catholic institution, they were blocked. Then Notre Dame says fine,
- 34:08Speaker 3: you don't want us, we're going to become a national powerhouse.
- 34:10Speaker 3: And then they say, well, now that you're a national
- 34:13Speaker 3: powerhouse and you're worth tens of millions of dollars annually
- 34:16Speaker 3: on a TV contract, now we want to cry about
- 34:19Speaker 3: you being in a conference. I'd also like to remind
- 34:21Speaker 3: your Honor that every school in the country has a
- 34:24Speaker 3: right to be an independent program. There is no rule
- 34:27Speaker 3: that says you have to be independent. They just knew
- 34:31Speaker 3: that they can't get their own deals like Notre Dame could.
- 34:34Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, Honor, this is
- 34:36Speaker 3: projection and this is jealousy. You can't do it, so
- 34:39Speaker 3: you're mad at us because we can.
- 34:47Speaker 2: I so wanted this.
- 34:48Speaker 1: To be guilty, but you have presented an argument that
- 34:52Speaker 1: I cannot even refute. Not guilty on the charges tough
- 34:57Speaker 1: customer today, count number two one count of indecent exposure
- 35:04Speaker 1: because the popularity of Notre Dame in contrast to the
- 35:08Speaker 1: fact that nobody under forty actually remembers seeing the last
- 35:13Speaker 1: time that they won a national championship, has created in
- 35:17Speaker 1: decent exposure charges. How do you respond to the accusation
- 35:21Speaker 1: that America is seeing far too much of Notre Dame
- 35:25Speaker 1: relative to their success.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Not guilty your honor, because Notre Dame is no longer
- 35:32Speaker 3: the only team with NBC. Obviously, NBC also has the
- 35:35Speaker 3: Big Ten. I'd also like to mind your honor that
- 35:36Speaker 3: the University of Oregon has still never won a national
- 35:39Speaker 3: championship and they're on TV National Champion National TV every weekend.
- 35:42Speaker 3: I just like to remind people of that. I'd like
- 35:44Speaker 3: to mind your honor that before Clemson won a national
- 35:46Speaker 3: championship in twenty sixteen, their draught was even slightly longer.
- 35:49Speaker 3: Their last championship was in nineteen eighty one. So it's
- 35:53Speaker 3: not about championships. If you're gonna be on TV, you're
- 35:55Speaker 3: gonna be on TV because.
- 35:56Speaker 2: You draw eyes.
- 35:57Speaker 3: That is the whole point of having a team on television,
- 35:59Speaker 3: because people will watch, which means advertising money. It is
- 36:02Speaker 3: not a competition of who has the best football teams.
- 36:05Speaker 3: It is a competition of who has the best brand power.
- 36:08Speaker 3: And if you want to look at Notre Dame's brand power,
- 36:09Speaker 3: I'd like to remind your honor that last year Not
- 36:12Speaker 3: Dame was number three in all of college football in
- 36:15Speaker 3: a in revenue produced, behind only Texas and Ohio. State.
- 36:19Speaker 3: So clearly Notre Dame is still one of the great
- 36:22Speaker 3: brands of college football, and that is ultimately what should determine,
- 36:25Speaker 3: or should say, what does determine who's on national television.
- 36:29Speaker 1: Counselor, I would like you to confer with your client
- 36:33Speaker 1: before I deem a ruling. I am going to give
- 36:36Speaker 1: you the option of taking this down from a felony
- 36:39Speaker 1: charge down to a simple misdemeanor infraction ticket of loitering,
- 36:47Speaker 1: just hanging around and not doing a lot.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Also would like to say, not guilty, your honor, because
- 36:52Speaker 3: we are on national television because that deal was offered
- 36:55Speaker 3: to us by NBC. They have agreed to sign with
- 36:58Speaker 3: us every year. We're not forcing any one to do
- 37:00Speaker 3: anything that they're not willing to do. We're not also
- 37:03Speaker 3: doing anything illegal. We were offered TV deals. We're allowed
- 37:07Speaker 3: to be on TV. We're in the We're also our
- 37:09Speaker 3: road games are on TV because the ACC asked us
- 37:12Speaker 3: to come join their league as a part time member
- 37:14Speaker 3: because it benefits them, which is why every single ninety
- 37:18Speaker 3: percent people of Vaqua has the data the athletic director
- 37:20Speaker 3: of Not Dame ninety percent of games that not Name
- 37:23Speaker 3: plays in ACC stadiums are sold out. If you look
- 37:26Speaker 3: at ACC games against each other, that sellout percentage is
- 37:29Speaker 3: in the twenties. Notre Dame also last year had more
- 37:33Speaker 3: TV views than any team in the ACC, so it
- 37:36Speaker 3: benefits the ACC. It also liked to reminds your honor
- 37:39Speaker 3: that ACC's best revenue season ever due to TV was
- 37:42Speaker 3: the one season that Notre Dame joined the ACC for
- 37:45Speaker 3: a season, So I'd just like to remind your honor
- 37:47Speaker 3: of that. So therefore, we are simply benefiting the TV markets.
- 37:51Speaker 3: We are taking advantage of deals that were offered to us,
- 37:54Speaker 3: so we are not guilty of these charges.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to lessen the charge just to
- 38:02Speaker 1: loitering only because of that COVID season and you guys
- 38:06Speaker 1: used and abused the ACC and then left.
- 38:09Speaker 3: Them high object after that, I object, your honor. Let
- 38:13Speaker 3: me add this last caveat. I'd like to remind you
- 38:15Speaker 3: that at that time that Notre Dame joined the ACC,
- 38:18Speaker 3: the ACC and the Big Twelve were leaning towards not
- 38:21Speaker 3: playing college football that season, something that the Pac Twelve
- 38:24Speaker 3: and Big Ten had already decided not to do. Clemson
- 38:27Speaker 3: was one of the few ACC schools that was fighting
- 38:29Speaker 3: to keep in Notre Dame joining the ACC is the
- 38:33Speaker 3: reason the ACC even decided to play football that season.
- 38:36Speaker 3: The ACC deciding to play is why the Big twelve
- 38:39Speaker 3: decided to play, which is why the Big Ten decided
- 38:41Speaker 3: to play, which is why the Pac twelve decided to play,
- 38:43Speaker 3: which is why we had a college football season in
- 38:45Speaker 3: twenty twenty. So, in that one season the ACC was
- 38:49Speaker 3: not using abused, they were able to still make tens
- 38:51Speaker 3: of millions of dollars per school because they still played.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Had it not been for Notre Dame, they would not
- 38:56Speaker 3: have played that season, and therefore those schools would have
- 38:59Speaker 3: lost tens of millions of dollars.
- 39:01Speaker 1: So, counselor and listening to you through the first two arguments,
- 39:06Speaker 1: it kind of sounds like Notre Dame feels like that
- 39:08Speaker 1: they are the reason why college football goes around. Guilty
- 39:12Speaker 1: on that one, sir, next charge Occupational Safety and Health Administration,
- 39:19Speaker 1: charge of operating damaged and dysfunctional equipment.
- 39:25Speaker 2: So Notre Dame's.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Athletic director he publicly criticized the process and the ACC,
- 39:31Speaker 1: saying that the relationship had been damaged after the league
- 39:35Speaker 1: advocated for Miami to get into the CFP and then
- 39:40Speaker 1: Ruters reported that the ad also said that he accused
- 39:44Speaker 1: the acc and said that they had done permanent damage
- 39:48Speaker 1: with its Miami campaign. You are being charged with intent
- 39:52Speaker 1: to take a damaged program into competition in twenty twenty six,
- 39:56Speaker 1: which is a federal crime.
- 39:58Speaker 2: How do you plead?
- 40:00Speaker 3: Can we negotiate a plea down?
- 40:04Speaker 2: Okay?
- 40:05Speaker 3: I will, I will, and I'll hear. It's just here.
- 40:07Speaker 3: I do believe Notre Dame got screwed in the playoff.
- 40:10Speaker 3: I think the way that they were dropped, the fact
- 40:12Speaker 3: that the committee said, hey, we went back and watched
- 40:15Speaker 3: the Week one game against Miami, while not going back
- 40:18Speaker 3: to watch the Week one game between Alabama and Florida State,
- 40:21Speaker 3: which I thought was kind of silly. Notre Dame had
- 40:24Speaker 3: every right to be upset. I'm also fine with Notre
- 40:27Speaker 3: Dame not playing a Bowl game. I would have rather
- 40:28Speaker 3: than have played. But you don't say you did permanent damage.
- 40:32Speaker 3: And then a few months later you say, oh, but
- 40:34Speaker 3: we're good now, just because they said sorry, it's either
- 40:37Speaker 3: permanent damage or you're not own it or don't And
- 40:40Speaker 3: now they're trying to act like, no, we're friends again.
- 40:42Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. Your honor. That's a bad
- 40:44Speaker 3: look by us. I'd like to negotiate a bit of
- 40:46Speaker 3: a plea deal on this particularly.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Okay, I will give you a plea deal on this
- 40:50Speaker 1: one if you also concede the fact that on one hand,
- 40:56Speaker 1: where you said that you did not use and abuse
- 40:59Speaker 1: the ACC, but then the AD wanted to be upset
- 41:04Speaker 1: for the ACC advocating for an actual ACC member.
- 41:11Speaker 3: So the issue that Notre Dame has is not that
- 41:13Speaker 3: the ACC advocated for Miami. Notre Dame is said all
- 41:16Speaker 3: along that Notre Dame and Miami should be both in
- 41:19Speaker 3: the playoffs. Notre Dame stances always that Alabama didn't belong
- 41:23Speaker 3: in the playoff. The issue with the ACC was simply
- 41:26Speaker 3: that not that you advocated for Miami. It's that you
- 41:29Speaker 3: advocated Miami over us because we are an ACC member.
- 41:33Speaker 3: We are of a contract, and you're not supposed to
- 41:35Speaker 3: publicly condemn and go against teams in your league. Contractually,
- 41:41Speaker 3: you're not supposed to do that. We should have been
- 41:43Speaker 3: teaming up against a very average Alabama team. That was
- 41:46Speaker 3: not name's issue. So it wasn't that the ACC advocated
- 41:49Speaker 3: for Miami as much as it was they advocated against
- 41:52Speaker 3: Notre Dame. Notre Dame's argument in front of the committee
- 41:55Speaker 3: when they were able to represent, was not a we're
- 41:58Speaker 3: better than Miami argument. It was we're better than Alabama
- 42:01Speaker 3: and Oklahoma. That was the names issue. And I believe
- 42:05Speaker 3: that that is fair. That's why I will take the
- 42:07Speaker 3: plead to a lesser charge of pouting. Fair charge number four.
- 42:16Speaker 1: This one actually carries eight counts, eight counts of matriculating
- 42:21Speaker 1: under the influence because historically Notre Dame they have limited
- 42:25Speaker 1: themselves to almost exclusively graduate transfers. But in January, the
- 42:31Speaker 1: Irish they opened up the floodgates of undergraduate transfer recruiting,
- 42:35Speaker 1: taking eight players, including five the five star Alabama recruit
- 42:39Speaker 1: Kean Keighley. And Notre Dame is supposed to be a
- 42:42Speaker 1: shining example on the heel under touchdown Jesus, But it
- 42:46Speaker 1: seems as if the culture has shifted, as Notre Dame's
- 42:50Speaker 1: priorities have shifted.
- 42:52Speaker 2: How do you plead, plead not guilty, your honor.
- 42:55Speaker 3: I think we are making an assumption that undergraduate players
- 42:58Speaker 3: who have not graduated yet that are somehow unfit to
- 43:01Speaker 3: be student athletes at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is simply
- 43:04Speaker 3: going with the rules of college football. Also, like our
- 43:06Speaker 3: minder Honor that this is not the first time that
- 43:08Speaker 3: no Name has taken undergraduate players. Notre Dame also took
- 43:10Speaker 3: an undergraduate in Riley Leonard and an undergraduate in Elijah
- 43:14Speaker 3: Hughes the previous season, and those players obviously were not
- 43:17Speaker 3: graduate players. Notre Dame is once again abiding by the rules.
- 43:20Speaker 3: These are the rules of college football, and Marcus Freeman
- 43:23Speaker 3: has said, our head football coaches said, We're going to
- 43:25Speaker 3: find young men that fit the culture of what we're
- 43:27Speaker 3: trying to build. We've also made a commitment to the
- 43:30Speaker 3: admissions department in the faculty heads of that we will
- 43:32Speaker 3: find young men that can be successful here in the classroom.
- 43:36Speaker 3: We are not taking mercenaries. We're not taking players who
- 43:38Speaker 3: are going to be ones and done. We're going to
- 43:39Speaker 3: take young men that we believe can fit into our program.
- 43:42Speaker 3: That's why we are going to work with them to
- 43:44Speaker 3: make sure that they remain on course to graduate, which
- 43:47Speaker 3: ultimately should be the number one goal. And we as
- 43:49Speaker 3: an institution still have over a ninety percent graduation rate
- 43:53Speaker 3: for our football players compared to our brethren down in
- 43:56Speaker 3: Athens who have a sub fifty percent graduation rate for
- 43:59Speaker 3: their football players. So we are still holding to the
- 44:01Speaker 3: integrity of our institution and in fact, we are now
- 44:05Speaker 3: opening up more opportunities to student athletes to come get
- 44:08Speaker 3: a world class degree. So we are not guilty of
- 44:10Speaker 3: these charges.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Was was Riley Leonard at one and done? Yes, sir, okay, okay.
- 44:17Speaker 1: So there there has been some shift in the.
- 44:21Speaker 3: There are some one and done's, but it's not worth seeing.
- 44:23Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is we're not getting
- 44:24Speaker 3: a kid to come here. Don't worry about going to class.
- 44:27Speaker 3: You're only here to play football, you know that type
- 44:30Speaker 3: of thing. Riley Leonard was obviously from Duke. He was
- 44:32Speaker 3: a very strong student athlete. So and he is the
- 44:35Speaker 3: and he is the only undergrad I believe that will
- 44:39Speaker 3: be a one and done key on Kieley's gonna has
- 44:41Speaker 3: two years of village ability left. DJ McKinney is a graduate.
- 44:44Speaker 3: That's why he wasn't here in the spring. The rest
- 44:45Speaker 3: of the players are undergraduates for at least two years
- 44:47Speaker 3: of villge.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Okay, ruling here, I will give you not guilty here
- 44:54Speaker 1: because I do believe that you have to adjust to
- 44:57Speaker 1: the rules of college football and the signe of the Times,
- 45:00Speaker 1: and you can do that without sacrificing your academic integrity,
- 45:04Speaker 1: even though Brian Kelly is over there punching walls right now.
- 45:11Speaker 1: Count number five and this one has fourteen counts of
- 45:16Speaker 1: fraud because only one of the fifteen four star wide
- 45:22Speaker 1: receivers that you guys have signed from the twenty sixteen
- 45:25Speaker 1: class to the twenty twenty three class have been drafted
- 45:28Speaker 1: into the NFL, and that is mister Chase Claypool and
- 45:34Speaker 1: drafted Notre Dame wide receivers had a total of four
- 45:38Speaker 1: receptions in the NFL in twenty twenty five and they
- 45:42Speaker 1: all belong to do you know who?
- 45:46Speaker 3: Notre Dame wide receivers? All four catches for Notreame wide
- 45:49Speaker 3: receivers and be Ben Scarnic?
- 45:50Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, you are one hundred percent right, You know
- 45:53Speaker 1: your clients, and you are charged with fourteen counts of
- 45:57Speaker 1: fraudulent promises to develop receivers into NFL talent.
- 46:02Speaker 2: How do you plead, sir?
- 46:04Speaker 3: I like to negotiate a lesser police or a lesser
- 46:07Speaker 3: charge if we can, because I'm gonna have a hard
- 46:09Speaker 3: time pushing back on that. That is in an area
- 46:11Speaker 3: where Notre Dame has not lived up to expect it.
- 46:13Speaker 3: This feels like an airtight case here. Yeah, I'll say guilty. Yeah,
- 46:18Speaker 3: that's an area where Notre Dame has not lived up
- 46:19Speaker 3: to expectations. They have not developed that position the way
- 46:22Speaker 3: that they need to. I think that's going in a
- 46:24Speaker 3: different directions. We just saw Malachi Fields get drafted in
- 46:26Speaker 3: the third round. He was not part of your criteria,
- 46:29Speaker 3: was not someone that n't even signed out of high school.
- 46:31Speaker 3: But I think that's going to change here. Jordan Faison
- 46:33Speaker 3: is going to be a top NFL draft prospect next year,
- 46:35Speaker 3: potentially Day two to day three.
- 46:37Speaker 1: Guy.
- 46:37Speaker 3: Certainly heading in a different direction. But yes, that is
- 46:39Speaker 3: something that Not Dame is guilty of.
- 46:41Speaker 1: Yes, guilty. However, though we're not gonna give you the
- 46:45Speaker 1: maximum sentence because there is clearly a process to.
- 46:50Speaker 3: Trying to fix our ways. We're trying to overcome our
- 46:53Speaker 3: past sins at wide receiver. Yes, sir, correct, I like that.
- 46:58Speaker 1: Count six and you actually might be okay with pleading
- 47:01Speaker 1: guilty to this one one count of cyber bullying. Because
- 47:07Speaker 1: the historic USC Notre Dame rivalry has been ended slash paused.
- 47:14Speaker 1: It went on hiatus after the.
- 47:16Speaker 2: Two school the two schools.
- 47:18Speaker 1: Could not agree on future scheduling terms, and USC claiming
- 47:23Speaker 1: that they wanted to move the game up to the
- 47:26Speaker 1: beginning of the season instead of playing in the Big
- 47:29Speaker 1: Ten schedule because it's too difficult. And Notre Dame has
- 47:34Speaker 1: been relentless online bullying Trojan fans.
- 47:39Speaker 3: How do you plead not guilty, your honor, It's not
- 47:43Speaker 3: bullying when you speak the truth. USC has continued to
- 47:46Speaker 3: state falsehoods. I watched your show and watched your previous
- 47:49Speaker 3: trial with the USC person. He continued, the falsehoods that
- 47:52Speaker 3: are being spun by usse here are the reality of
- 47:55Speaker 3: the situation, your honor, Notre Dame, we went to USC
- 47:58Speaker 3: and said, hey, listen, we want to play no matter what.
- 48:01Speaker 3: I like to remind your honor also that Lincoln Riley
- 48:03Speaker 3: has been talking about getting out of this game for
- 48:05Speaker 3: three years. I'd also like to remind your honor that
- 48:08Speaker 3: USC tried to get out of the LSU game in
- 48:10Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, and it was USC that canceled the
- 48:13Speaker 3: ole Miss series in twenty five and twenty six. There
- 48:16Speaker 3: is a pattern here with the Trojans that shows they
- 48:19Speaker 3: don't want to play those tough games out of conference.
- 48:21Speaker 3: We told USC we are willing to move it up
- 48:24Speaker 3: to the beginning season and also playing week zero whenever
- 48:27Speaker 3: the NCAA will allow us, because we can't choose to
- 48:29Speaker 3: play in week zero we have to get granted permission
- 48:32Speaker 3: from the ncaation. So everybody says, why does Notre Dame
- 48:35Speaker 3: always get exceptions, Well, now you're asking us to get
- 48:38Speaker 3: an exception to play by something differently. We said, we
- 48:42Speaker 3: will play you early, but here's the reality for the
- 48:44Speaker 3: next three seasons. We can't play you then because we
- 48:47Speaker 3: are already contractually obligated to play games early. USC said, nope,
- 48:51Speaker 3: we got to do this. They eventually agreed, or we
- 48:54Speaker 3: continue to say we will do this, we will do this,
- 48:56Speaker 3: we will work with you. Then when we had come
- 48:59Speaker 3: to an agreement, and USC then moved the goalpost yet
- 49:03Speaker 3: again and said, we just learned that Notre Dame has
- 49:07Speaker 3: an exemption in next year's playoff.
- 49:09Speaker 2: So now we're from the beginning.
- 49:12Speaker 3: Thank you, your honor. So I would like to remind
- 49:14Speaker 3: you that we were willing to meet them on whatever
- 49:17Speaker 3: terms that we legally could. We just asked that they'd
- 49:20Speaker 3: be patient until our schedule loosened up. At the very beginning.
- 49:24Speaker 3: They're the ones that said no. They're the ones that
- 49:27Speaker 3: walked away. They're the ones that said hey no. They're
- 49:29Speaker 3: also the ones that have a history of that. I'd
- 49:32Speaker 3: also like to remind your honor for those who say
- 49:34Speaker 3: Notreame doesn't want to play USC. Notre Dame within five
- 49:37Speaker 3: minutes of that being canceled, scheduled a team who's actually
- 49:40Speaker 3: been ranked higher than US the last two years in BYUA,
- 49:44Speaker 3: team that has actually contended for the playoffs the last
- 49:46Speaker 3: two years, something US has not done.
- 49:48Speaker 1: So.
- 49:48Speaker 3: In fact, by getting rid of USC, the Notre Dame
- 49:51Speaker 3: strength of schedule has been toughened, so we're clearly not
- 49:54Speaker 3: ducking a team. They're the ones that have a proven
- 49:57Speaker 3: tracker could have ducking teams. They did it to Ole Miss,
- 49:59Speaker 3: they tried to do with LSU, and now they're doing
- 50:01Speaker 3: with US, while then pretending that it was US that
- 50:05Speaker 3: back out of a series that they have been talking
- 50:07Speaker 3: about for three years they wanted to eventually get out of.
- 50:12Speaker 2: Not guilty, not guilty.
- 50:15Speaker 1: And I will go even further, Brian, is you brought
- 50:20Speaker 1: up the point about Lincoln Riley for three years he's
- 50:24Speaker 1: been talking about this and then the SEC scheduling model
- 50:28Speaker 1: and all of this stuff.
- 50:29Speaker 2: He doesn't want to smoke. It is very clear to
- 50:33Speaker 2: the entire jury.
- 50:34Speaker 3: Exactly why he took USC job instead of the LSU
- 50:37Speaker 3: job when he left Oklahoma. Why did he leave Oklahoma
- 50:40Speaker 3: right after they announced they were going to go to
- 50:42Speaker 3: the SEC. Why did he not take the LSU job
- 50:44Speaker 3: even though they wanted him because he didn't want the
- 50:46Speaker 3: smoke of playing in the SEC. Now that they then
- 50:49Speaker 3: move from the soft Pac twelve to the to the
- 50:51Speaker 3: Big ten, now all of a sudden, he doesn't want
- 50:53Speaker 3: to play notre name. He doesn't play Ole Miss, he
- 50:55Speaker 3: doesn't want to play. I'd like to.
- 50:56Speaker 1: Remind you that the class of that league, from the
- 50:58Speaker 1: record soft Pack twelve, that will not be allowed in
- 51:01Speaker 1: this court.
- 51:03Speaker 2: The words soft and PAC twelve will not be I thought.
- 51:06Speaker 3: You said there was gonna be no bias in this conversation.
- 51:09Speaker 1: There there is PAC twelve nostalgia still here though.
- 51:15Speaker 2: Understandable, sir, But yeah, it's rough.
- 51:20Speaker 1: And Kirby Smart has a famous quote, you run from hard,
- 51:25Speaker 1: you find more hard. Lincoln tried to run from the
- 51:28Speaker 1: SEC hard, and he found Big ten hard. It turned
- 51:32Speaker 1: out to be a hard.
- 51:33Speaker 3: Any time when the Big ten is actually more top
- 51:35Speaker 3: heavy even than the SEC.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Yep, hey, you run from hard, you get.
- 51:40Speaker 3: What you deserve. Karm is the son of a you
- 51:42Speaker 3: know what?
- 51:43Speaker 2: Yep. And and then the other part is and then
- 51:46Speaker 2: then we'll leave USC alone. Is that.
- 51:50Speaker 1: Wasn't there a game on the books for twenty six
- 51:52Speaker 1: and twenty seven already.
- 51:54Speaker 3: Sir, so twenty six?
- 51:56Speaker 2: So why need to cancel that?
- 51:58Speaker 3: Right?
- 52:00Speaker 2: Because they saw.
- 52:02Speaker 1: Oregon, Indiana and Ohio State on the schedule and Penn State.
- 52:07Speaker 3: And I would like to remind your honor that Notre
- 52:11Speaker 3: Dame replaced that game with BYU, while USC replaced that
- 52:15Speaker 3: game with San Jose Jose State. So I think that's
- 52:19Speaker 3: evidence of of who was trying to do what with
- 52:21Speaker 3: their schedule.
- 52:24Speaker 1: Next count count number seven one count. A dereliction Intentional
- 52:32Speaker 1: abandonment is also referred to as dereliction, and something voluntarily
- 52:38Speaker 1: abandoned by its owner with intention of not retaking it
- 52:42Speaker 1: is a dearly And you are being charged with abandoning
- 52:45Speaker 1: your responsibility to appear in the twenty twenty five Pop
- 52:50Speaker 1: Tarts Bowl following your exclusion to the twelve team playoff.
- 52:55Speaker 3: How do you plead not guilty? Your honor. We were
- 53:00Speaker 3: part of a process that was unfair to us, a
- 53:04Speaker 3: process where we were lied to, a process where a
- 53:07Speaker 3: certain network used us for TV ratings for a month,
- 53:11Speaker 3: all while dan Patrick noted that behind the scenes, they
- 53:13Speaker 3: were going to screw us over the entire time, and
- 53:16Speaker 3: then they wanted to use that process to then create
- 53:18Speaker 3: a ball game between the two teams that were left out,
- 53:21Speaker 3: including a team that they lied to and screwed over,
- 53:23Speaker 3: and then now you want to use us to make
- 53:26Speaker 3: money off of that bowl game, your honor. The reality
- 53:29Speaker 3: is is that we weren't going to stand for that.
- 53:30Speaker 3: We were going to allow ourselves to be cheated and
- 53:32Speaker 3: then benefit the person that did the cheating. So that's
- 53:35Speaker 3: why we opted out of that football game. It was
- 53:38Speaker 3: also something that our players voted they did not want
- 53:40Speaker 3: to be part of that football game. The twenty twenty
- 53:42Speaker 3: six to five football team that you were going to
- 53:45Speaker 3: see in that game was not the twenty five football
- 53:47Speaker 3: team that played throughout that season. Most of our top
- 53:49Speaker 3: players would have set out that game, and therefore we
- 53:52Speaker 3: were not going to participate in that particular.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Game, Sir, guilty, Guilty as charge. Because no team except
- 54:04Speaker 1: for the teams going into the playoffs are our whole
- 54:07Speaker 1: when it comes to bowl games and Notre Dame they're
- 54:11Speaker 1: actually getting an additional count of pouting for sitting out.
- 54:14Speaker 3: Of that game pouting. I will accept the charge of pouting.
- 54:19Speaker 3: Will I'm going to appeal the other charge at a
- 54:21Speaker 3: later date.
- 54:22Speaker 1: Okay, go on, sir, of charge number eight sixty one
- 54:31Speaker 1: counts Brian of hate crimes sixty one. A hate crime
- 54:37Speaker 1: is a traditional offense where the perpetrators' actions are motivated
- 54:41Speaker 1: by bias against a protected characteristics, such as a victim's
- 54:45Speaker 1: actual or perceived race. This charge is on behalf of
- 54:49Speaker 1: the nation of Ireland and is relevant to Notre Dame
- 54:53Speaker 1: sixty one year old official.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Fighting Leperkam mascot, how do you.
- 54:59Speaker 3: Plead not guilty? Fighting Irish is a term that is
- 55:04Speaker 3: used as endearment. It's also a term that is embraced
- 55:06Speaker 3: by the people of Ireland. The only people that have
- 55:08Speaker 3: a problem with that are soft minded, weak Americans who
- 55:10Speaker 3: have no idea what people of Ireland believe about that mascot.
- 55:13Speaker 3: That is why when we go play in Ireland, we
- 55:15Speaker 3: are embraced at large. Also, I'd like to remind your
- 55:18Speaker 3: honor that part of the term fighting Irish came from
- 55:21Speaker 3: the fact that it was our students, our all male
- 55:24Speaker 3: students that went and fought, literally fought the KKK in
- 55:27Speaker 3: the streets of South Bend when they tried to bring
- 55:29Speaker 3: their racism into our town. That is also partly why
- 55:32Speaker 3: we are known as the fighting Irish. It is a
- 55:34Speaker 3: term of endearment, It is a term of respect. It
- 55:37Speaker 3: is a term that refers to the blue collar nature
- 55:39Speaker 3: of the Irish people. And that is why when we
- 55:41Speaker 3: go to Ireland to travel, we are embraced and loved
- 55:45Speaker 3: as the fighting Irish because they realize that it is
- 55:47Speaker 3: in term of endearment. It is only soft minded Americans
- 55:50Speaker 3: that have a problem with that. So therefore we are
- 55:52Speaker 3: not guilty of this at all. I'd also like to
- 55:56Speaker 3: mind your honor that it was Father Hesburg that was
- 55:58Speaker 3: hand in hand with Martin Luther King on campus and
- 56:01Speaker 3: throughout different civil rights activations. So to say that this
- 56:04Speaker 3: is some sort of hate crime goes in the face
- 56:07Speaker 3: of what the University of Notre Dame has been about
- 56:09Speaker 3: for one hundred years.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Okay, I am tempted, very persuasive to give you a
- 56:15Speaker 1: not guilty here, but I am going to delay this
- 56:20Speaker 1: verdict only because I need to consult with the Irish contingent.
- 56:25Speaker 1: I need to consult with the people of Ireland first.
- 56:29Speaker 1: But you are not guilty. That will work out well
- 56:33Speaker 1: for us, your Honor.
- 56:34Speaker 3: That's why we are so well loved and embraced, and
- 56:36Speaker 3: they have sellouts to their stadium and our merch sells
- 56:39Speaker 3: so well in the Ireland. And also I like to
- 56:41Speaker 3: remind your Honor that the most famous Irish wrestler, Seamus
- 56:46Speaker 3: has been at Notre Dame, has introduced our team before games,
- 56:49Speaker 3: and he also embraces the term fighting Irish. You have
- 56:52Speaker 3: one evidence of a very well known irishman who certainly
- 56:55Speaker 3: respects the name fighting Irish.
- 56:58Speaker 1: Okay, not guilty, not guilty, that's fair, That's fair. I'm
- 57:03Speaker 1: a WWE fan, so you know. Charge number nine, one
- 57:08Speaker 1: count of DEI Diversity, equity and inclusion is parent is
- 57:13Speaker 1: apparently a crime. Now I am but an administrator of justice,
- 57:18Speaker 1: so there's nothing I can do for you here. Notre
- 57:20Speaker 1: Dame is charged with promoting a diverse candidate after Brian
- 57:26Speaker 1: Kelly left for LSU over more qualified and experienced candidates
- 57:31Speaker 1: that would have been available in that hiring cycle. You
- 57:34Speaker 1: could have hired Billy Napier, You could have hired Lincoln Riley,
- 57:38Speaker 1: you could have hired Clay Helton.
- 57:40Speaker 2: How do you plead.
- 57:43Speaker 3: Experience doesn't equal talent. Clay Helton is soft. Therefore he
- 57:47Speaker 3: could not be the head coach of the Fighting Irish.
- 57:49Speaker 3: It would literally give him into spasms and fits and
- 57:52Speaker 3: convulsions because someone who is soft cannot possibly lead an
- 57:56Speaker 3: institution known as the Fighting Irish. I'd also like the
- 57:58Speaker 3: reminder owner that Billy Name had experience coaching at the
- 58:01Speaker 3: G five level, not at the Division IE level. He
- 58:04Speaker 3: did not have the experience to win on this level.
- 58:07Speaker 3: That has been proven true by the fact that he
- 58:09Speaker 3: could not win at the University of Florida. I also
- 58:12Speaker 3: like to remind your Onor that some of the best
- 58:13Speaker 3: coaches that we have seen were not head coaches ever
- 58:16Speaker 3: before Kirby Smart went from being a defensive coordinator to
- 58:19Speaker 3: the University of Georgia. I also like to remind your
- 58:21Speaker 3: honor that Dabo Sweeney also was not even a coordinator
- 58:24Speaker 3: before being promoted to the head football coach at Clemson.
- 58:27Speaker 3: They have combined for four national champions. Also like to
- 58:30Speaker 3: remind your on It that those two coaches also ended
- 58:33Speaker 3: thirty plus year drafts of no championships at their institutions.
- 58:37Speaker 3: Kirby Smart wasn't alum, but Dabo Sweeney was not. He
- 58:40Speaker 3: is an Alabama graduate. Marcus Freeman got that job because
- 58:44Speaker 3: of why all coaches should get their jobs, why all
- 58:46Speaker 3: people should get their jobs, because he was the most
- 58:49Speaker 3: talented person for that job. He was someone who came
- 58:51Speaker 3: to Notre Dame converted to Catholicism. I liked to remind
- 58:54Speaker 3: your Honor of by that fact. Also, he was someone
- 58:57Speaker 3: who showed a willingness to recruit he was, so he
- 59:00Speaker 3: was someone who showed a passion for the type of
- 59:02Speaker 3: student athletes we get for Notre Dame. He's a Midwesterner,
- 59:05Speaker 3: so he obviously appreciates the blue collar values. His father
- 59:08Speaker 3: is a military person. He understands the discipline that comes
- 59:11Speaker 3: from being at University of Notre Dame. He also showed
- 59:14Speaker 3: in his one year at Notre Dame that he genuinely
- 59:16Speaker 3: cares about developing young men off the field just as
- 59:19Speaker 3: much as on the field. All extreme qualifications. On top
- 59:23Speaker 3: of being one of the best young coordinators in college football.
- 59:26Speaker 3: I'd also like to say your honor now that we
- 59:28Speaker 3: have four years of evidence that Marcus Freeman has showed
- 59:31Speaker 3: that we did make the right decision, that we hired
- 59:34Speaker 3: him because he was the best for the job, just
- 59:36Speaker 3: like Niel Ivy was the best for the job for
- 59:38Speaker 3: the women's basketball And so we don't hire based on race.
- 59:42Speaker 3: We hire based on talent, skill and potential. We bet
- 59:46Speaker 3: on coach Freeman, we bet on coach Ivy. So far,
- 59:49Speaker 3: those bets have paid off for both of us, and
- 59:51Speaker 3: that is why we are one of the premier coaches
- 59:53Speaker 3: teams in the in the country. I also erect reminds
- 59:55Speaker 3: your honor that Notre Dame hired a very experienced head
- 59:58Speaker 3: coach in twenty ten. He then spent the next twelve
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: years making excuses for why we couldn't win instead of
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: putting in the work. Marcus Freeman said, no, I'll embrace
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: what makes their name unique. I won't make excuses, and
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: that's why we're going to win. And he won't and didn't.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: Not guilty, not guilty, not guilty. And you brought up
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: a great point, Brian, and I reiterate this all the time,
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: is that you have so many schools that are and
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: this is why the SEC keeps hiring. Why they don't
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: have the best coaches in the country right now, or
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: I mean they could have now because they just hire
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: some new ones, is that they keep wanting to hire
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: the big name guy instead of hiring the right guy,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: because like imagine if Oregon had tried to get Lane
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: Kiffin instead of Dan Lanning, or if they had tried
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: to get Lincoln Riley. Don't hire a big name because
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: like like you said, Dan Lanning, Marcus Freeman, Dabbo Kirby,
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: SMA like all of these other coaches that everybody would
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: give their right arm to have. They were assistant coaches,
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: and that's where you need to look for your talent.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Last last one, sir, you are accused. Notre Dame is
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: accused of one count of contributing to the delinquency of
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: a minor Ohio fate Ohio state. They faced this same
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: charge by letting Indiana win a national championship. Indiana shares
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: a state border with Notre Dame. So responsibility of letting
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: this happen, of letting a college football doormat become a
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: nationally relevant team is part on you. How do you
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: plead this is the.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: Easiest one of all your honor, We are not guilty.
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: I would like to remind your honor that the last
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: time Indiana lost a football game was to us in
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: our stadium. We had them down twenty seven to three
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: before we put called off, before we took our foot
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: off the gas. Final scores twenty seven to seventeen. We
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: would have beaten Indiana again this year, but the College
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: four All Playoff Committee cheated us out of a playoff
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: opportunity instead put a garbage sc team in there that
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: was nothing more than a sacrificial land to the Hoosiers.
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: Had Notre Dame got into the playoff like they should have,
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: then either Miami would have had a chance to maybe
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: play Indiana in the second round, or Notre Dame would
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: have been able to play them in the Rose Bowl.
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: And we matched up very well with them. We were
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: the hottest team in the country coming down to stretch,
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: your honor, so we were prepared to do what we
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: needed to do to knock them out. We were the
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: last team to beat them. I'm sorry that Ohio State
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: could not handle their business. I'm sorry that Alabama could
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: not handle their business. I'm sorry that Oregon who couldn't
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: handle their business. We handled our business against the Hoosiers
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: last time we played, because Kurt Signetti is still over
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: against Marcus Freeman in his tenure and got beat by
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: ten points. So I just would like to point that
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: out to your honor.
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: We did our job. Everybody else didn't do theirs. Not guilty, sir,
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: not guilty. Because the College Football Committee they should not
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: have put Alabama in the playoffs.
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: They had no business there.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: They had no business there, and everybody knew that at
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: the very end that they were gonna flip flop Miami
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: and note Notre Dame because a head to ahead, So
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Alabama should have been left out. That would have been
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: the proper thing to do.
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: How do you put a three loss team in that
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: just lost a conference championship game by twenty one points
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: and also, by the way, had a fourteen point loss
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: to an ACC school that was five and seven, and
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: you're gonna put that team in. Why they had a
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: really tough rivalry game against an Auburn team with a
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: losing record, while ignoring the fact that Notre Dame beat
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: a rival by twenty nine, it was because they samed
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: that Georgia.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: Like seven weeks prior or something.
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: Right, we saw how those two two teams looked when
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: they played late in the season.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: You are right about that, you guys. He is Brian Driscoll.
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: He defended Notre Dame to the hilt. And and so the.
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: Final third deals are I'm just gonna let you know,
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: I'm gonna be following a couple of appeals. Uh when
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: when this process is overall.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: Well, y'all got some good lawyer around around there, So overall.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: Notre Dame.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Gotta be honest, not guilty. Overall they're guilty of some
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: of these charges, but overall not not guilty.
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: And but oh but.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: I will bring it, bring up there is a pending
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: charge about about Notre Dame receiving special treatment essentially being
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: like Messy in the in the World Cup where he
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: should have got a red card or Wimby where he
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: should have gotten another flagrant foul, because they're getting easy
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: access into the college football playoffs by just remaining in
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: the top twelve.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Just just just by.
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: And I offer a preliminary rebuttal to that, your honor. Yes,
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: I like to remind you that Notre Dame's pathway is
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: still technically harder than anybody else's. As we see with
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: the new rules that also allows us. All you have
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: to do is win as a Power four team. If
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: you win a Power four division or conference, you get
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: in automatically, which means last year Arizona State and Clemson,
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: who did not rank in the top sixteen or top twelve,
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: would have been in the playoff. This year, Duke, who
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: was not even a top twenty five team, would have
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: made the College Follwall playoffs. No name actually has to
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: rank in the top twelve to make a twelve team playoff.
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: A conference champion does not technically have to be in
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: the top twelve to make the playoff. Also like to
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: remind your honor that there's already a pathway for every
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: Power four team to get in win your league. Notre
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: Dame doesn't have a league. I'd also like to remind
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: your honor that is the committee showed this past year
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: if Notre Dame is close enough to the top twelve,
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: they just drop them out. But Notre Dame is the
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: only team that has to actually rank in the top
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: twelve to make it into the College Fowall Playoff. So
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: I think this charge is going to be proven easily proven.
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: I'd also like theirmind your honor that this special exception
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: is also available to any other team. If Ohio State
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: wants to become an independent and get the same deal,
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: they're more than entitled to do. So we're not playing
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: by any special rules. I'd also like to remind your
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: honor that this is not something we imposed. This is
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: something that every power for conference agreed to. So everybody
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: supports this right by us. So it can't be a
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: special privilege if it's something that everyone has access to
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: and something that everyone agreed that we have a right to.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: And that was an excellent defense by mister Brian Driscoll
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: of Irish Breakdown. You guys, make sure you guys go
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: over to the channel. Absolute amazing stuff. I watch it
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: all the time.
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: Brian.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on in defending Notre Dame. I mean
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: this might have been the best defense that we've had
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: so far.
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: Appreciate that. I would also like to say that you
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: did make an accusation about Notre Dame recently that I
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: like to address. You said that Notre Dame is the
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: will be the number one fan base that will be
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: the most obnoxious if they win a championship, and I
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: would like to say, I for personally am guilty of that.
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: I will be insufferable on social media responding to all
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: the hate that we have gotten over the years if
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: no name went a championship. So I wanted to object
- 1:07:07Speaker 3: with that, Sir. I wanted to be offended. But if
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: I'm being fair and honest, I think that there's some
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: truth that for me, I can only speak for myself.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: Oh oh, I think you speak for Irish nation. And
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: just like the Oregon Ducks were on there, if I
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: am going to act a plumb fool, I'm just letting
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: everybody body know there will be no objectivity, there will
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: be no there will be no chill.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: So there will be a lot of a lot of
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: this from me for a good couple of months. So
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: I'm just gonna let you know that one right now.
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: Ordinarily this is top ten time, but this is hot
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: take corner today. I'm sitting over here and I'm watching
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: the World Cup and it just frustrated me to no
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: end because we ripped turf feel out of NFL stadiums
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: and college football stadiums to put grass fields in. When
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: players want to play on grass fields, only to take
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: them the grass fields back out and put turf fields
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: back in. Can anybody explain to me Atlanta MetLife Fields,
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: all of these other places taking oh Sofi Stadium, man
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: Ella taking turf out to put grass in, only to
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: put turf back in. It is clear that you can
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: grow it indoors. You can grow it outdoors. You can
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: do what the Raiders do. Think about this. The Raiders
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: have UNLB playing on turf and then when the NFL
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: comes they slide in a whole new grass field. What
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: are we doing? The science is the science? Can we
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: keep more of our athletes healthy?
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: Now? For high schools and all that?
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: I understand why there's a maintenance issue, cost, this sho
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: all of this stuff. Weather doesn't permit in a lot
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: of places. But if you can play on grass for
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: professional sports, if you can make it work for FIFA,
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: are your NFL players not more valuable? They are acls
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: and knees and everything not more valuable. Come on, man,
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: let's get to it. Somebody's gotta say something, and that
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: somebody is me