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LIVE November 2025 Replay (Turkey Processing, Detox During Pregnancy, Bovaer, and MUCH MORE) · Beyond Labels Premium

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to everybody to uh our November Beyond Labels live stream.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for joining us.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um not a whole lot in housekeeping for uh the podcast.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we launched our Beyond Labels chapters, local chapters that you can look into.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be including the link to view the map to see everything in every show description from now on.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: So whenever you're listening to a podcast, uh look in the show notes, you'll see a little join a Beyond Labels local chapter, and you'll see uh all of those uh listed there.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: I have been receiving more uh inquiries for becoming chapter leaders, which I'm uh be adding to our uh list uh in the next uh couple of weeks.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: So uh be on the lookout for a correspondence about that.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but for right now, just thanks to all the leaders who have been um uh ready and willing to start this little um project.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_02: And it's gonna probably be uh slow going at the beginning, but we'll slowly get uh momentum and build these groups up.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm excited to see where it goes.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: So if uh Yep, go ahead.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_04: Question about that, Nolan.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_04: So when when somebody clicks on the link and it pulls up the map and you can see who the leaders are, the chapter leaders, it has their email.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_04: If you wanted to join one of those chapters, are you supposed to take the initiative to email the leader yourself?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: Correct.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: So they would email, yeah.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: So you would see the map, and then you would see, you know, do I have somebody local to me?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then in that list, you would have the email to contact that individual.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, great.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_04: And then can you, while we're chatting, do you mind sharing again, like maybe putting it in the chat box, how somebody could get on the Discord page?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, when you I'll I'll pull that link up and put it in the description here momentarily.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, awesome.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: And um, anything else before you want to introduce Barry?
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_02: Go for it.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, Barry is here.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_04: Barry Green.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_04: Hi, Barry.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_04: It's so great to have you here.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm gonna have um, so Barry is new to our community.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_04: He's been a friend of mine for quite some time.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_04: Barry was actually one of the first people I ever interviewed when I started the YouTube channel.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_04: And that was when it was just me before Joel came on to be my partner.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_04: So Barry and I go way back.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_04: So I asked him to come on today.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_04: And it's super early for you, right?
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_04: What time is it right now where you are?
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was gonna be three o'clock, but I got up at three o'clock and there's no one here.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's five o'clock, so I did the transition wrong.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I'm here now.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_04: So he's in Australia, and I'm gonna let Barry introduce himself.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_04: But what he was gonna do is just give us a quick um basically a synopsis of what's happening in Australia.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_04: Barry is so on the pulse with you know, um, soil help, health with what's happening with farmers, what's happening in the medical field.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_04: And so he agreed to come on today and just give us a little bit of a taste of what's happening over there in Australia compared to here.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_04: So welcome, Barry.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Zina.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, with 2018, the first time I'd used Zoom, I think you recorded that piece with me that you called the Naussie's Take on Food Propaganda.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: And that's uh I came from my experience having grown up in agriculture, worked in commercial television, and I could see sort of what was happening.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I'm involved in what we used to call organic or regenerative agriculture.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've been following uh Joel for a long time.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: I met Joel when he was in Manja came to Manjam up in about early 2010s, I think it was Joel, you're pushing the uh the the Field of Farmers book.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and um, you know, we got the situation here.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: I say I grew up in agriculture, we've lost all our small farms, so being taken over by big guys who don't give a toss about anything much, um, which is all a bit depressing.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, I've been watching the Maha movement, and I've I played a piece on commit my community radio station last week with uh uh Dr.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: Robert Malone and Joel in it called The Mission Maha.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it uh it gave me a lot of hope because um I must say in Australia at the moment uh we've got uh a Labor government, although the Liberal opposition aren't much different, and they're really pushing the World Economic Forum, genders and the WHO and all this stuff, and they've got an Australian CDC and they bring in uh so-called uh um under 16 uh social media restrictions, which means everybody's got to identify themselves online, and it really is quite very concerning.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I I I do belong to an organisation called the Aligned Council of Australia, which is talking these things up.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and there's a play on regenerative agriculture.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: I've coined the term regenerative media, which uh stuff I'm doing on community radio and tourist radio, and we've got a a hard copy newspaper in Australia called the Light Australia newspaper.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: All back issues are online, downloadable as PDFs, so that's theliteustralia.com.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: And there's been articles in there.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: There was an article written by Jerry Roberts, who's a journalist of the old school.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: He wrote an article about Gabe Brown's book From Dirt to Soil, uh, which uh after I'd sent him the article.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: So this is how I sort of see the the uh the thing happening.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think Joel would be familiar with um uh Charles Massey, caller the Reed Warbler, a new agriculture and new earth.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh 2018, I did a community radio documentary with him, um, which is about regen ag and it really sort of helped me see what was happening because Joel taught uh uh same as Joel talks about.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: Charlie talked about how after the Second World War the corporations used these nitrogen plants for explosives to, you know, re-market it as fertilizer in the Green Revolution, and then farmers all became dependent on these corporate things.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: But um in Australia we've got a podcaster called Club Grubbery with Graham Hood and John Later.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um Graham is a former Qantas pilot, as a good uh like a good pilot, he does risk-benefit analysis before doing anything.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't take the COVID injection, and his partner in it is a is a paramedic of 25 years who lost his job.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: We lost our best medical people out of the system because they wouldn't participate in the vaccine trial.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd love at some stage to uh to see uh Joel and uh and Cena on uh on the Club Rub Grubbery episode.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: And uh they've done some great interviews, including three with Ron Johnson and uh Aaron Siri, and uh you know they they've got some good stuff there.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I I so Charlie talks about in Region AG developing diverse self-organizing ecosystems, and I think what we're doing with the independent media of which you're part of is all this diverse uh diverse ecosystems and sharing content, talking each other up is how we get around the gatekeepers.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a bit about me.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really interested to hear how Maha's going.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: What I we're hearing negative things about Maha, but uh my take on that is in Australia our media is all paid for by advertising from big food, big pharma, big ag, big retail, big everything else.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: So uh they're not questioning anything.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't know if that's uh your perception over there.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, well Barry, what's the main negative thing you're hearing about Maha?
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh what I what we're hearing is that uh that uh Kennedy's under dreadful pressure and uh and that the but because in Australia, as I say, our media, including government media, the ABC, is is all is all paid for by advertising from the corporations.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: And my take on it is that Kennedy's taking on the corporations, so they're they're bad mouthing him over here.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm really interested to hear what's really happening there.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I I think um I mean that's why I was asking, yes, there's no question, but he's under tremendous pressure here.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, a lot of people are wondering if he'll even be able to survive, if there'll be a you know, uh a forced resignation or something like that.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_09: Um uh he's definitely got some got momentum.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_09: Um but if if what you're hearing is that he's uh destroying the health of the country or uh reducing children's immunological function or that, um uh I I I think that's where this is going, and they're circling the wagons, and uh it's a it's it's a real showdown at the OK Corral, you know.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: I've been following uh Dr.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: John Campbell, a UK nurse, medical educator from very early in the piece, and he uh he took the COVID injection because he used to believe the system.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he got to three and then woke up.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: There was a very good video uh video of him on the Jimmy Dawr show, uh, and I played segments of that on my community radio program a few weeks ago, and out of that I had a bloke ring me up the next day.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: He said, geez, he said, having heard that I now realise all my health problems that I just put down to coincidence are uh uh vaccine injuries.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that the the propaganda job has been so so excellent from a propaganda point of view that people aren't seeing that.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I I'm I'm encouraged to hear that.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think um um what I get uh uh I'm gonna broadcast on my show this week a a Dr.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: John Campbell talking about uh um Florida, where they they're putting$140 million into research into other treatments for cancer.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and my belief is that uh that uh you know the the the pharmaceutical industry's got so much control over government, but it only takes one state government to stand up.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, people have been saying that big farmers like the Titan is too big to fail, but they said that about the Titanic, and uh, you know, it it reaches a tipping point, and hopefully we're getting to that tipping point, and we can come back to having lots of small farmers producing food the way God or revolution, whichever you tended to believe in choose to believe intended.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: And uh a line I've been using in some of my presentations is a a misquote of Bill Clinton who said uh it's all about the economy stupid.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: My take it's all about the biology stupid.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: We get the biology in the soil right, the biology in the human guts right, and most of these problems that are that that go away.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what keeps me optimistic, Joel and Cena.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Barry.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's such a treat to have you on all the time, and I'm so thrilled that you're now part of our community.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_04: This is amazing.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm here interested to know more about it.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can set it set up a chapter in Western Australia.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that'd be awesome.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_04: And then Joel and I can come visit you and show up to the local chapter.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_04: That'd be great.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing, amazing.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you so much, Barry.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, if you don't mind dropping any of the links that you'd like to drop into the chat, and I'll make sure to add those to our show notes as well once we once we upload it.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you so much.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um all right.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh as everyone uh who's been here before knows, uh, go ahead and raise your virtual hand if you want to have a question answered.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: We already have a couple already lined up.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Irene, if you want to go ahead.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, hi, thank you.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_06: Um, this question is for Joel.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_06: Um, my husband and I are raising or raised Thanksgiving turkeys this year.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_06: And we thought we would just kill them the same way we do the chickens.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_06: We got cones.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and our turkeys are too big for the cones.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_06: We thought we ordered big cones and they came and they were not as big as we thought they were going to be.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_06: And so we're trying to figure out the best way to kill these turkeys.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_06: Um, some people have said, oh, just put them on the chopping block.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_06: Others have said, oh, just want a 12 gauge out their head.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_06: Um someone else said, oh, figure out how to stuff them in the cone and take a loppers, a tree branch loppers, and just snap their heads off that way.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_06: Um we're just trying to figure out how to do that.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, there's a there's a great there's a great uh um kind of uh poor boy way to do this, and that is to uh cut a circle, cut a circle in a five-gallon in the bottom of a five-gallon bucket, and and put them in the five-gallon bucket, pull their head through the circle, and just proceed like you would with a cone.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_09: It's it's more cumbersome than a cone.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_09: It's not quite as slick and you know, easy to work with as a cone, but it does get you um, I'm assuming you're not doing a hundred.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_09: And so how many are you doing?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_06: I only have eight.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_09: So uh a five-gallon bucket that you can that you can put them in and and just just cut a hole uh in the bottom, you know, what you know, like like whatever, you know, three or four inches enough to get the head through.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_09: Uh you can use that like a poor boy cone and it'll work just great.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, good to know.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_09: You're welcome.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome, awesome.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: Great question.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um let's go to uh one of our email questions.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: This is coming from Thomas.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he's wondering, I want to know what to do about my dog as I've seen disturbing side effects about the rabies vaccine.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: If it is the law in Maryland to get it every three years, he is also due for the Lyme vaccine.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: I am concerned about Lyme as we are susceptible to it in Laytonsville, Maryland, where we live.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: I myself have had it four times, each time taking care of it with antibiotics.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: He's had Lyme disease, that is.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, thankfully.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: I do have a friend that has uh recently lost her four-year-old lab from Lyme and she was vaccinated.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: So Cena.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_04: I was gonna toss it over to Joel.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_04: No, Joel, either one.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_11: You you're the one with the dogs, right?
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_09: This is a Cena, this is a Cena one.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_04: So uh yeah, so you'd want to also ask the veterinarian about if the rabies vaccine they use contains mercury as a preservative, uh, because some of them still do.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_04: So uh so that kind of tells you another component that you might be up against.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I have known uh people who have detoxed their dogs from getting vaccinations, and um, it just so happens I have some products here um that I give to my dogs sometimes.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_04: And the reason I do it is it's a similar thing.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um, because in the rental house that we lived in, uh there was like bacteria in the walls, and it was making all of us very sick, including my dogs.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_04: So we went through an entire detox protocol on Joel knows I was getting sick like every every four to six weeks because of that rental.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_04: It was awful.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_04: So I ended up getting looking into it and getting some products that detox my dogs, which can also be used to detox them from um you know for vaccinations.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_04: And uh so one of the things I did was I got this um whole foods-based supplement that's it's a vitamin mineral blend.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_04: So one thing that you want to make sure, just like in humans, when you're trying to detox, you want to make sure that the human has enough minerals um and enough vitamins, so enough nutrients so that your body can help itself out and upregulate its natural naturally occurring detox pathways.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_04: So I did get this one, um, and and I could post it to the Discord page if people would like, but it it is a whole foods, um, all natural supplement for them.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_04: And then I found this liver support to help the dogs detox, and it contains things in it, uh, like milk, thistle, and turmeric and NAC.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, it does have some vitamin C.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_04: You know, of course, dogs make their own, but uh in a time when you need to detox them, you can boost it a little bit with their own vitamin C.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_04: And it has choline, um, dandelion root, uh, burdock root, things like that.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_04: So I can post that as well.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_04: But that's what I've been using, sprinkled on their food.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_04: And it's worked very well for my dogs.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_04: They're like puppies again.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um, this is, of course, in conjunction with um a whole food raw diet, uh, you know, organic or beyond organic.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_04: And I was also giving them this seaweed blend in order to get like it has uh essential um iodine and some other trace minerals in it.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_04: And so I was giving them this all natural seaweed blend um as well.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_04: One of my dogs had such an issue living in the home that they started developing um little tumors.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_04: And and so for that one, I've also started to give that dog um a probiotic that I got from Garden of Life.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_04: And also um I would treat that dog with um frankincense.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_04: So that's a frankincense is another thing that can help a dog really detox.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_04: So those are just some examples.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_04: And again, I'll post all the links on the Discord page.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_04: Those are just some of the examples of some products you can use to detox them.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_04: Uh in general, my approach the the approach to the detox is going to be similar to what you would do for a human.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_04: You just can't use all the same herbs and types of supplements that you would for a human.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_04: They have some exceptions.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um but that's what I would do.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_04: And the Lyme, yeah, that's the the vaccine itself, uh, even if you talk to like a veterinarian who's in the know, uh, the vaccine doesn't even uh you know, it's not even a really 100% effective prevention, right?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so the dog can still get big.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's the same thing with like the tick and flee prevention.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, you can put um you can you can put like the liquid on them.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_04: Well, and then there's sprays like a tick repellent spray.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_04: The natural ones are fine, but what I had found was that people are using these synthetic compounds largely than they get from conventional vets, and they're actually showing that there's some there's more damage when you're using those synthetic compounds than uh the risks of the dog actually getting bit by a tick that's gonna cause an issue.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_04: Even if you use those preventions, the tick can still bite the dog and still, you know, presumably infect the dog with something, even if it's not Lyme, but it's a co-infection.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_04: And the same can occur with the vaccine, and the vaccine fails.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_04: And that's a whole nother topic with the vaccines.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_04: And we actually got um where's my book?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_04: We this is another piece of positive news for today.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_04: Joel and I just recorded, uh, because of Ethan's suggestion, right before this, Joel and I just recorded a positive podcast that will launch on Thanksgiving.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_04: And so let's just keep going with the positive news.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_04: So, one thing I'm really excited about, and we can dig into uh you know, the Lyme vaccine and things like that, is that we talked about dissolving illusions with Dr.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_04: Suzanne Humphreys, and we're actually having her on the program.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_04: So she, yeah, she agreed.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_04: She's got one of our listeners knows her and heard me mention her name on the podcast and how I want to meet her and interview her.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_04: And so he connected us.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_04: So go community.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_04: So we've been in contact, and she is coming on the show, and she's gonna break all of this down for us and all the myths related to vaccines, and it's gonna be fantastic.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_04: I think, Joel, we might need to have that one be a two-hour episode.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I hope that gave you some information.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_04: And again, I'll post the links to those products that I have been using to detox my dogs.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_04: I'll post them in the Discord channel.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_09: So the the best thing to do about Limes is to have some backyard chickens.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_09: And the the the chicken the chickens eat the ticks.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Very good, very good.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're gonna bounce over to the chat real quick.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, Douglas is asking who or what organization would you recommend to discuss or fight issues like water rights, avian flu vaccines, etc.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Virginia says they own the water immediately after it falls to earth.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Are you worried about then coming down to local farms and claiming the water in ponds, canals, et cetera?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_09: I I don't know.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know a group that um that deals with that specifically.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_09: I know water rights are a big deal out west.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_09: Um I've never heard of water issues being a problem east of the Mississippi.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_09: Uh maybe, maybe they will be with these data centers using so much water to cool down emails.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_09: Um Virginia, Virginia now, uh almost 25% of the electric power in Virginia is going to power data centers.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_09: The the closest next state is down about 11%.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_09: I think it's Kansas or something.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_09: Uh so this this you know the water thing to cool down the data centers is a fascinating topic right now.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_09: But I I don't know an organization that that uh handles this on a on a water issue.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_09: I just don't know.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_07: I was I was concerned, Joel, because I have when I was living in Virginia, Virginia contacted me about having water barrels next to my house and said that was their water.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_07: And the reason I came back to to uh to the forefront was that in Washington State, the state has now told farmers that they own all the water on the farms, and if they can't prove they have the water rights to it, the state is taking control of the farmland's water and how they use it.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_07: So I was hoping that wasn't something that was becoming endemic to a nationwide uh bubble.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_07: And somebody needs to look at it.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_09: I I I haven't e I haven't seen anything on that here.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Very good.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: Very good.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's go to uh David and Rebecca.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_10: I think it's Versina.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_10: I've been seeing quite a bit about DMSO lately.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_10: And I'm just curious what you might have to say about it.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_10: Uh my main point now is my wife's Alzheimer's.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_10: She's fairly far along on it.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_10: So I may be too late.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_10: But thought I'd ask her.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_04: So are you thinking of DMSO as a treatment for Alzheimer's?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_10: Possibly.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_10: I've thought of bringing her out.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_04: So there are there's some research that suggests that DMSO may actually be beneficial in some aspects of Alzheimer's disease.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_04: Now there's conflicting research because there also are some studies that are showing that it can cause um tau hyperphosphorylation and that it can damage um astrocytes.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a type of brain cells.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_04: Uh brain cells.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: So some studies are showing that it can actually cause death of those brain cells.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_04: So I think it probably depends on the person's specific condition and things like the dosage as well.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um it's we really don't know enough about it in terms of Alzheimer's.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_04: And it's my understanding that the FDA has not approved it for Alzheimer's yet, that it's it's more for um interstitial um cystitis uh because I don't think we have the information.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_04: If you're interested in helping her reverse Alzheimer's, then if you want, we can connect on the side.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: You know, if you're interested, it you know, it won't hurt my feelings either way.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_04: But if you're interested, I can um connect with you on the side and we can talk about you know some possible protocols or steps she can take.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: I'm actually working, there's a documentary that I'm part of.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't talked about it before, um, but it's a documentary that's tracking and helping people reverse different types of chronic conditions.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm their lead doctor, so I'm just overseeing the protocols.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_04: And one of the people who we're working with is a family who the husband has Alzheimer's.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_04: And we're actually able been able to reverse, he's on the pathway reversing it to the point where now he can send text messages again, like he can read books, he can, he can um identify where he's at, like when he's being driven around the city, like he's regained all these different functions.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_04: He can complete full sentences.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_04: You know, when we first started, he couldn't even complete a sentence, he would just stop in the middle of a sentence.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_04: So it is possible to reverse it, and we're not using medications to reverse it, just all you know, more natural things that tools that God gave us.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm happy to connect with you on this side and share some of what we're doing if you're interested.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, well, that might be a possibility.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_10: Thank you.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_10: Of course.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: Very good.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I believe Ethan is ready to roll.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: So, Ethan, go ahead.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_11: So this one's for Joel.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_11: So um I'm wondering, so I know you've been talking some about like cattle and things like that.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_11: So I'm wondering if for like I'd eventually like to get into farming, but right now I'm kind of homestead focused right now on just trying to get something on this land that I have.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_11: I've got about I don't know, 15 acres or so of pasture that I can graze.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_11: It it's kind of got a lot of woody stuff in it right now.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_11: Um it it was cut for hay for a while and there's nothing on it.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_11: So I'd like to get something on it.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_11: But I don't have like a ton of money to buy livestock.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_11: And so I was kind of wondering, like cows are really expensive right now, and I watched like uh a video from Stockman Grass about how somebody expects you know them in three years to go back down.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_11: Um and so I'm kinda wondering whether I should be trying to target more like sheep, um, which I know they come with a little bit more, like I'd probably have to buy some sheep netting and um might need to get a dog since I don't have one right now.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_11: I'm just I'm kinda wondering like for like more of a homestead scale, like should I get three cows with my money or should I be trying to like get like 10, 12 sheep or whatever it is?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, so yeah, it's a um I think I can help you here.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_09: Uh um save your money and put your money in infrastructure.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_09: So water line, you know, uh perimeter fence, that's sort of make sure that's all good and and structurally sound.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_09: And then um and then go to somebody that's got cows and offer to custom graze them.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_09: And uh they'll they'll be glad to uh put some cows, maybe even a maybe even uh three or four bulls, you know, that they're trying to find a home for, or maybe they've got a few heifers they don't want bread, they need kept.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, there's all sorts of little, you know, little um um non-fit cattle in a cattle operation, uh, that somebody's looking for a temporary home and you can graze on a per diem, you know, a dollar a day.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_09: Uh you can do it on on weight gain if it's if it's a production animal, then they'd have to be weighed, which can be problematic.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_09: But if you put them on a on a trailer and bring them and then and then weigh them at a at a scale, you know, on a trailer on the way back, uh, that's fine.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_09: And you can go on a you know a per pound, uh, a per pound weight gain.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_09: But uh there are lots and lots of people with cattle that are looking for um for a spot to put a handful.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_09: And um, I mean, I mean, you goodness, you you could with with that, you could even where where do you live?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_09: Where are you?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_11: Uh I'm in western Kentucky.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, all right.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_09: Uh high rainfall.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_09: All right.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_09: So um, so yeah, uh you you could even take work out something with somebody to bring you, I don't know, uh 30 head or something, um, you know, two or three times a year, and uh, and they can come and put and take.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_09: Now, to do that, you're gonna need a nice corral, a decent corral where you know you don't have to worry about being able to load them or not.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_09: But um, but there are there are um, I mean, if if you live near us, we would definitely send you a 25 or 30 head, you know, three times a year to graze that.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_09: That way you get a big a bigger group, and um, and they're only there for, I don't know, um 15 acres, 30 head.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_09: You know, they might be there for um for for 20 days and then they're gone.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_09: And then they're there for 20 days and then they're gone, and then they're for 20 days and they're gone.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_09: But that way, you that way you're basically you're basically selling a cash sale.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_09: You're taking your grass, making a cash sale without any capital investment in the livestock, and you're getting all the benefits that a a mob can give you, uh and and they're only there you know two or three months of the year, and uh it lets you kind of you know get acquainted, uh kick the tires, you know, uh build some experience and um learn what a cow day is and and uh how to set that up.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_09: And then when you go to your own, then you'll be ready to go.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_09: But yeah, right now is definitely not the time to buy a cow.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, they're yeah, and and I I do believe that they will drop precipitously by the fall of 28 or certainly into 29, you know, what once the retained heifers and the and the numbers come up uh that are coming up now.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_09: So uh yeah, if you can work out something with somebody there uh locally, if you can, you know, he'll come look at your place, you know.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_09: Look, I've got good fencing, I've you know, uh um work out something.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_09: That's a way to get in for for zero um investment, except for the infrastructure, fencing and a corral and stuff that you'd want anyway.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_11: Interesting.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I wasn't thinking about that angle.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_11: So so like how do I go about finding these people?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_11: Like I have two uncles that farm cattle.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, maybe they I guess they might know people actually.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_09: Sure, sure.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_09: May maybe maybe they're a candidate.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_09: And well, because people that have cattle are always looking for a you know, for a little bit extra grass.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_09: And if they can get ex extra grass uh uh on on a on a uh thing, uh I mean we we've done that back back in the early days before we got our herd all the way up.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_09: Uh we would we we wintered cat we wintered cows for uh neighbor um because we had a lot of stockpiled grass for the winter.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_09: And uh that was nice because he saved hay and uh we got our grass sold and it was it was a great win-win situation.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_09: So yeah, talk to your uncles.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_09: Uh you you've got to circulate into, you know, make some friends with people that are that are in this business, and there's always somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_09: And uh so you just you just uh keep putting your hook in the water and and somebody will bite uh eventually.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_11: Awesome.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_11: Thanks.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_09: You're welcome.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, Ethan.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's go over to another email question.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_02: This is coming from Mary.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: Does the push for people to consume more olive oil, coconut oil, and avocado oil, and to avoid soybeans, uh vegetable and seed oils, have an impact on soybean farmers?
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_09: Uh wow.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_09: Um, you know, I I I guess in theory it would, but um, you know, remember soybeans are used for all sorts, you know, livestock feeds, diesel fuel.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_09: Uh there's a lot of uses for soybeans.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Cena can probably give us a lot more uses for soybeans, but um it all I can say is it would take a lot to really affect soybean production.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_09: So uh Cena, what do you think?
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_04: I think yeah, I agree with Joel.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_04: I think it really depends on how many of the companies are gonna make the shift, you know, away from uh away from the soybean.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_04: So I I'm not sure.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_04: I think there's so many other ways, uses for it.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, they may come up with more uses for it because they'll need something to do with the overage unless they stop farming it and shift to something else.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_09: Well, and I like what Ethan said down in the comment section there.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_09: He said, not as long as the government keeps subsidizing soybeans.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_09: The problem is that that the that the safety net, the safety net under soybeans, um makes farmers not have to risk not growing them or not overproducing.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_09: So you've got you've got this this embedded um uh embedded uh uh protection to protect the farmers from deciding not to grow soybeans.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_09: And so they're gonna continue to grow soybeans because that's what they like and that's what they're tooled up for as long as the government bails them out.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, at some point somebody in this country has to realize that you can't just you can't just put a safety net under bad decisions and create good decisions.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_09: It doesn't work that way.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_09: You you you you got you gotta pull the net out and say, you make a bad decision, you're gonna suffer the consequences.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_09: That's how you get better decisions.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_04: But like I said, I doubt that's gonna happen.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I think they'll just find more more things to do with it, or they'll just dump it like they've done with milk in the past.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: All righty, let's go over to uh Mike.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: Mike, go ahead and uh ask your question.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: Hi, I've got a couple questions for Cena.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um maybe related.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: So I my first one is do you have anything or I guess do you have any experience in your course and it just in your one-on-one treatment with people for autoimmune diseases on uh psoriasis?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: I've had psoriasis for like 20 years.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: I'm really getting tired of it.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'd like to move past it if it's possible.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_04: Psoriasis is more common than people realize, but yeah.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I've I've worked with people with psoriasis.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_04: And and it is a reversible condition, just like the others.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so would you recommend I I've seen your course a little bit online.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: Should I look into that as a a good way to approach resolving that?
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, Joel and I are we both don't like self-promotion.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_04: So if it resonates with you, then I would say yes, like I have some of the videos that are on there so people can get a feel for it.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_04: And I have the table of contents.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so if you look through that and it resonates with you, then it's probably where, you know, like God's leading you.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: But if not, that's okay too.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_04: You know, there's there's all kinds of when I started that program, like when I launched it, there really wasn't much on the market to teach people how to reverse any of these dis-eases or conditions.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_04: And now there's resources everywhere.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_04: So um, you know, if you want to look around to see if there's something else that you that resonates with you more, then you could do that.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_04: If mine resonates with you, then great.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, I'm happy to have you there.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and mine is so my program is very comprehensive.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's the most comprehensive program I've seen on the market, which is why I do the monthly live QA's to help people walk through it, you know, like one step at a time.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm not somebody who pushes um, you know, for medications, and I'm not huge on supplements that are synthetic.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm more like the herbal route and using the things that God gave us to heal.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_04: So it really has to kind of resonate with the person that they agree with that.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_04: And then, because you need to be like all in, whatever protocol you choose to follow, you've got to be 100% in it and believe that it's gonna work.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, thank you.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: And and my follow-up question, another health question is my wife is pregnant with our fourth child, and the morning sickness with this one has been significantly worse than the others.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm wondering if you're aware of any dietary tie-ins that might be contributing or could help help resolve some of that outside of just pumping her full of anti-nause medication.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_04: So I had really, really severe morning sickness when I was pregnant.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_04: It was like really, really bad, where um I was working with my first child and they had to put me on bed rest because it was just so awful.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: So uh I tried lots of different things.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, they'll they'll tell you things like make sure you have like small meals throughout the day.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um, like don't skip meals, don't do high carb.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, that's one of the things that worked better for me was consuming more protein and healthier fats.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_04: As soon as I moved over to consuming more carbs, it seems to have gotten worse.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and I never went long stretches without eating eating.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't consume any sugar.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_04: Sugar made it worse.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_04: Um and for me, sometimes electrolytes helped.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_04: It was almost like I needed that salt and the minerals.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_04: They tested me for B vitamins.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_04: That's another like common um, that's another common conclusion that they might make, is that you're low in B vitamins.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_04: So it's a possible contributor.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_04: I was not low in B vitamins, that wasn't part of mine.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_04: Uh magnesium is another one that they will often test for to see if there's um a deficiency because pregnancy does increase magnesium uh need.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um, some people, some research is connecting it with microbiome imbalances.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_04: So dysbiosis, if there was a history of antibiotic use, for example, um, if the person already didn't have regular bowel movements beforehand, if they're prone to food sensitivities, things like that are all indicators that microbial imbalance may be playing a role.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_04: So sometimes people will suggest using, you know, either a probiotic supplement or I would go first to the foods, like if they if the person can consume any fermented foods, for example.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_04: Um sometimes, sometimes it's related to the person consuming a food that they're actually sensitive to, but that's how it's showing up is actually uh morning sickness.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so you could try to remove some of the more common triggers if she's able to do that.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um dehydration can make it worse.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_04: So that's another one.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_04: And obviously man-made chemicals, but um, a big one that the we were never able to fully get mine to go away.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_04: Like it was so bad.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_04: The but what has what helped me the most was um I would suck on things, like I would make like a ginger lozenge myself.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_04: And ginger was one thing that my body really wanted.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_04: So like I would smell things.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so one way you can tell what your body wants, especially during pregnancy, because we tend to have a heightened sense of smell, is you can smell it first.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_04: And so for me, uh ginger was something that my body really, really wanted.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_04: And so I would um not only put it like take the ginger root, and I took a potato peeler and I would peel off the outer coating, but I would potato peel it into like my salad or whatever I happened to be eating or into soups, and I would make them into these little lozenges and I would suck on it.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_04: So I was consuming, you know, the ginger throughout the day.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um, one thing that really helped me was turmeric, but turmeric is not something that you necessarily want to consume when you're pregnant.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_04: Like that was like my last ditch effort to try to make it stop because it can cause bleeding.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so that's something that you probably, you know, if you run across that one, people tend to suggest that you probably would want to avoid that one if at if at all at all cost.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so I don't know how she tried all those things that I've just listed.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh she's tried a lot of things.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_03: She's tried the B uh B vitamin stuff quite a bit.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um the meals, more frequent meals have helped.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_03: One thing that's helped recently is she's drinking a lot of raw milk and and put aside the prenatal vitamins because those are making her sick.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_03: But we haven't gone through like the smelling foods and seeing what seeing what works that way.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll recommend that to her.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that could really be be positive.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, and some people will say that um, you know, along the lines of the MTHFR mutation, do you know if she has that?
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: I've never heard of that, so I'm not sure.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_04: So um some people will say that, like, if someone has that, you know, it's more common than we used to think.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and we could have a whole podcast about debating what that actually means, you know, to have it to have a genetic mutation.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_04: But um, but there's some kind of association in the literature between people who have that gene mutation and they can't methylate as well.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_04: And so there's some people who are associated, some researchers who are saying that maybe one of the causes of morning sickness is that it's the body telling you you're not actually methylating properly, which is essential when you're building a human inside of you.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_04: And so one of the things that, for instance, one of my friends recommended to me, uh, who's a functional medicine doctor, um, this is when I was having so much sickness, is a methylated folate uh supplement.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so I did um, I took that methylated folate supplement a few times.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_04: And like I said, mine never totally went away.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_04: But things like that did help to kind of take the edge off.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_04: So that's one more possible route she can look into and see if she might be a carrier.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_03: And that was M MTHFR, is that what you said?
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_04: MTHFR, yeah.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it's it means that you're not able to properly methylate.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_04: And you need to methylate in order to grow that human, you know, to to basically help replicate the DNA and and to detox, it helps you to detox as well.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_04: There's a whole laundry list of things that it does, but it's essential.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_04: It's you really need that pathway to work properly when you're pregnant, you know, or if you're trying to detox.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for all this.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: I'll uh I've got that written down.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'll see how it does for thank you.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, let us know.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_04: Let us know.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_04: And if she figures out something else, please share because I she's not the only one, and I'm not the only one that's had morning sickness.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_04: Like we'd love to learn from each other.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_04: And congratulations.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks so much.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go over to Steve.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_05: The Beauvoir that's over in Europe, uh, that's becoming, I believe, mandatory.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh that's the the what they're feeding the cows to produce less methane.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a big fan of European cheeses that you can get over here, but I'm worried that I know you guys are beyond labels, but uh will we know whether these cheeses are made from cows that take both air.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_09: My understanding is that it's only being mandated in Denmark, and that right now is the epicenter of things.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_09: And and uh for sure this this uh this is going to be a battle uh because if you if you're watching the news at all, you know that the dairy farmers are using it, they are they are rebelling, they are refusing, their cows are dying, uh, they've got all sorts of problems.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_09: So as much as much um negative publicity as I'm seeing on this, uh I think I you know, and and and and I realize there are big powers that are pushing this and all that, but I my sense is that this is not going to last long.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_09: Uh it that there's there's too much, there's just too much evidence of damage that it's doing.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_09: And alternative media is giving voice to you know to the actual dairy farmers that are out there that are seeing their cows die.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_09: And so um, so my my sense, my sense is this will not be long term.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_09: But everything that I've seen, it's it's it's really only being um mandated in in Denmark.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_09: Here's my point.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_09: If it's not mandated with the amount of negative information coming out of it, it's kind of like R RBGH here in in the US back in the day, RBGH.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it was pushed and pushed and pushed, but it was never mandated.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_09: And by the time, by the time it came to be kind of a known thing, there was so much pushback in the dairy industry about mastitis and and um um you know uh lack of fertility, uh lameness, all sorts of problems that that it just kind it kind of just went away.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_09: And um uh I I actually right now there might be a dairy in the U.S.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_09: using it, but there it's just not it's just not being used much.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_09: And and uh so as long as it's not mandated, I don't see farmers jumping into it very much.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_09: The only way they're gonna do it is mandating, and the only place is mandating it is Denmark.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_05: Do you think Bill Gates pulling away from the climate change?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um is that gonna affect any future politics or are they just entrenched?
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_09: I I I think I think it could.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_09: Um I think in Bill Gates' case, it's almost it's almost like trading the devil for the witch, as far as what's he now gonna put his emphasis on.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_09: So uh it's kind of the trading the devil for the witch.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_09: And uh so you know we'll see where that goes.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_09: I just uh yeah, I don't I don't trust Bill Gates very much.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: Nor do I.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: All right, very good.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um we're gonna go over to a Discord question.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: If anybody else has any questions, we have about 10 minutes or so left, so don't forget to raise your hand.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh this is also from Ethan.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, this kind of goes uh right along the lines of uh Mike's question as well to Dr.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: Cena.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um Ethan's wondering uh when you go over um the detoxing of things, would it be possible to discuss discuss nursing in pregnant women?
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: I know she, his wife, needs some detox, and I'm not sure if it is simply out of an abundance of caution or if the body would actually cause harm to the baby through detox.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_02: So essentially asking how much detox is safe for uh pregnant and nursing mother.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's a great question.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm always very cautious with pregnant and nursing moms, uh, as are I think most practitioners, um, whether they're conventional or more natural alternative.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um and the reason is it sounds a little counterintuitive because we have detox pathways, right, that are happening all the time.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like the body does continually detox itself, but there's a difference between the body's own natural pathways working and then somebody trying to um instigate a detox, you know.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_04: So it's not something that we tend to encourage people who are pregnant or breastfeeding to do.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_04: We don't encourage them um, you know, to to try to tempt the body into detoxing faster or more.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_04: And one of the one of the main reasons why is because the body is innately intelligent, right?
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_04: It's more intelligent than we are in our own um, you know, cognitive mind.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_04: And so the body knows what it's doing and it's trying to protect that baby.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_04: You know, our one of our main purposes is to reproduce.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_04: And so it is a priority for the body to make sure that that baby is as healthy as it could possibly be, which is one reason why the baby pulls nutrients from the mom.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um, even when the mom, even when the baby has to pull like stored nutrients from the mom.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_04: So so it does what it does when when you're pregnant, you're breastfeeding, particularly when you're pregnant, is it's trying to sequester toxins away from the from the baby.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_04: And so that means it's trying to, for example, pull it out of the bloodstream because your blood is going to go through in the placenta and the baby will receive you know nutrients in there, um, and as well as toxins.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_04: As we know, a lot of them can cross through the placenta.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_04: And so the baby, the body is very smart and it's trying to pull them away from the from the baby so the baby's not affected.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_04: You don't want to then try to instigate, uh, you know, provoke, you don't want to provoke uh a more of a detoxification of the body than the body is ready to do, because you might pull those out of, let's say, fat storage, for example, or even bone storage.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_04: It's going to store it wherever it can to keep it away from the baby.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_04: So you don't want to uh provoke any additional detox than it's already doing because it has already got them away from the baby, and now you're pulling it out and it can be circulated in through the blood and affect the baby.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_04: So we can do things to um help the body to detox more efficiently on its own without provoking it.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_04: And one of the ways you do that is you're trying to lower the inflammation in the body.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_04: When the inflammation, um, there's gonna be some level of inflammation, right?
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like not all inflammation is bad, but you don't want to have a sustained uh chronic level of inflammation happening, it tends to slow down the detox pathways.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_04: So, one of the ways you can actually help that baby the most and help the mom the most is if you're looking at things as trying to, instead of how is this gonna detox me, how am I going to upregulate that pathway naturally?
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_04: And the ways you can do that is to think of what actually lowers the inflammation.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_04: And so this is gonna be things like foods that don't trigger inflammation in that mom's body, for example.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be getting away from Wi-Fi, it's gonna be getting away from the pesticides, all those chemicals around the food.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_04: So eating big organic or beyond organic, it's gonna be an emotional detox.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_04: So that's one way that you can really help your body on a physical level to detox is by doing an emotional detox.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_04: So forgiveness exercises, you know, managing stress, which ties into the emotional detox.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_04: These are all, I think, better ways to try to detox somebody, in particular if they're pregnant or they're or they're breastfeeding.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_04: Stress is gonna be the stress and the emotional detox is gonna be really the key driver for improving the health of that mom and that baby, because now that energetic imprint in her biofield is not going to be passed down to the child.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um, the energetic imprint of like a negative emotion like resentment or fear won't be passed down to the child.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_04: So that's the best detox you can actually do, in my opinion.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, such good information.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go over to Trudy.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_02: Trudy, go ahead and ask your question.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: Outside working.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, um first off, I love listening to all of this and uh really appreciate the information that is given and and uh all the research that you do, Sienna.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um something that's come across my table lately has been about cloned meat.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if you guys have done a podcast that I've missed.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: Or um yeah, I'm in Canada, so in DC.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, the turkeys got annihilated.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um or turkeys, the ostriches.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I know that was devastating.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, anyways, um cloned meat.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: What do you uh we have recently had it come out that they are about to start uh or have already introduced cloned meat into our food supply and um what the effects may be of that?
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know anything about that?
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: And they now have said that they don't have to label any of it.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, okay, Trudy, I love this question because um on the 20th, so what is that this week?
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_04: Uh is it this week?
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so um yes, so our next podcast that's coming out is called 3D printed steak, cell cultured salmon, and lab grown chocolate.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, perfect timing for your question.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's an entire episode about what you're talking about.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, see, yeah, there you go.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_09: But but clone cloned meat is not the same as lab meat.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_09: No, it's not.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_09: Cloned is where where they're they're cloning, they're cloning live animals and growing another animal that's a clone of another live animal.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_09: It's not it's not cell culture.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_04: That's correct.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I'm not sure that our podcast, I'm not sure we dealt with cloning.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_09: Uh we did we did 3D printing and and lab meat and cell cultured net, but I'm not sure that I mean I I don't want to Did we not do that at the at the beginning?
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_09: I don't remember us ever mentioning clones in that podcast.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I I know that I know that uh that you know the first cloned animal was the sheep named Dolly.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_09: I see there Chris is telling us uh Dolly the sheep.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_09: And and that sheep, I can tell you, that sheep had all sorts of problems.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_09: It had uh it had autoimmune problems, it uh it was lame, it I mean it its physical ailments were were a bunch.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_09: And uh and so you know it'll be interesting to see if they can overcome the inherent um you know deficiencies of something that is a clone.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_09: Uh uh a clone simply does not have the level of diversified anything that that that a that a randomized uh that a randomized being does.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: So it's yeah.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I would be interested in you guys um looking into that at some point.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_01: That would be very interesting.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we can look into that one next.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_04: So um that would be a good one to piggyback on that other the other podcast.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_04: So the other one will get you up to speed on you know what's happening in the cell culture world, um, and some research is going on UC Davis to manipulate the cows.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and then yeah, and then we'll build on this one.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_04: So that's that's a great topic.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 56:27
  unknown: Yeah.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's hit uh one last lightning round question before we close out.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: So, uh, Vern, if you want to go ahead and ask your question.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_08: Uh yeah, I've I've had kind of a discussion with some um higher-level DNC officials, Democratic National Committee officials in Nebraska, about the idea that um, well, we have a huge problem with nitrate poisoning.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_08: And it mainly follows it parallels the Platte River, but it's it's statewide pretty much.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_08: And um the response I got from the DNC official was nobody's gonna tell the farmers what they can and can't grow.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_08: Um, and we don't we're not interested in even looking at that.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_08: And then I I did a little bit of research and I found out that, well, there's a thing called crop insurance, and then there's another thing called subsidies that farmers get a lot of.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_08: So just uh the idea that some crops are insurable and some crops are not, is basically a way that our federal government manipulates what farmers grow.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Nebraska is a huge state for corn and soybean, which are big-time pollution pollution crops, and now our farmers are in a really bad state as far as you know the tariffs and all that.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_08: But anyway, what do you guys think about um uh subsidies and crop insurance as a method for basically manipulating what farmers grow?
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_08: What's your take on that?
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I don't think there should even be a USDA.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_09: So uh that's a that's a pretty blanket.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_09: Um yeah, I I don't think the government should manipulate, incentivize, or uh do anything with what's what's produced.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_09: And so yeah, you're right, nitrate is a huge issue, and it's primarily a chemical fertilizer issue because it uh because it's it's so uh readily available, it can't it, it can't it doesn't last in the soil.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_09: When you put on compost, uh that nitrogen is tied up in the dead bodies of the microbes that that that decomposed the material to uh to to get at the new um the new uh uh fertility, the new minerals, um, the new elements.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_09: Whereas in chemical nitrogen, it is a completely uh free material and it either gets used right away or it gets flushed or it or it ties up uh it ties up things in the soil.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_09: It can do that as well.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and so yeah, um there's a tremendous amount of runoff.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_09: That's what's creating the dead zone, the side of Rhode Island and the Gulf of Mecca, uh Gulf of America, whatever it is.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_09: And uh that's that's where this is coming from.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_09: And so yes, the subsidies and the uh risk insurance, all that um crop insurance, does completely reduce the risk to farmers of planting, uh planting too much of the wrong thing, which is exactly what's happened.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_09: Uh they they planted too much of the wrong thing, and the and our tax, well, actually, the government's bankrupt, so they're just making money out of thin air through the Fed.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_09: That's another topic for another day, uh, to give these farmers uh money for something that they're overproducing and um and is high highly risky.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_08: Well, one of the things that that I was watching one of your podcasts, and and I I suddenly realized like I invest, but I don't put all my eggs in one basket.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_08: Like I don't just put all my all my money in the stock market, I diversify, yeah, just like you do, where you grow, you might grow some roy row crops and you might grow some cattle and and you diversify.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_08: So the American people, it seems like, shouldn't be on the hook for farmers making bad investments.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_09: That's correct.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_09: I I could I couldn't agree more.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_09: Couldn't agree more.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_09: And the way and the way you get farmers to start making better decisions and better invest to use your terminology, better investments, is to take out the safety net from them for the consequences of making bad decisions.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_09: When you do that, suddenly people start making better decisions.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_08: Well, and I think growing hemp is something that I've tried to promote, but there that that seems to be way beyond anybody's um outside every everybody's paradigm.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_08: It's it's a major paradigm shift to grow hemp.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_08: And now it might even be illegal.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_09: So so um I mean, but I've yeah, so what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to get get these soybean growers and stuff to to to go back to perennial prairie palennial prairie polyculture pastures and um and grow herbivores.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_09: That's the way to that that's the way to uh to get that land uh low risk and settled and and ecologically clean to de to detoxify the land.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_08: Well, yeah, Nebraska used to be a massive prairie with bison roaming across it.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_09: Used to be.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_09: Thank you for the question.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_02: Very good.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, and thank you so much, uh, everybody, for joining us, and thanks to Joel and Cena as well.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we look forward to uh to putting this out here tomorrow morning for all of those who uh may have missed it.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_02: But we look forward to uh next month's and happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_09: Thank you all.