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Is Bible Study Essential? With Nate Vianio (pt 2) - 175 · Marriage Life and More and Bible Study

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  Nate Vainio: And I know scripture.
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  Nate Vainio: But when this stuff would come over me and I would try to quote scripture, I couldn't get anything to come to my mind.
• 0:15
  Nate Vainio: And I remember when I first had this happen, I had the only scripture that would come to mind was John 1135.
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  Nate Vainio: I remember teaching it to my kids, the first verse I ever talked to my kids.
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  Nate Vainio: Because why Well, it's the shortest verse in scripture.
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  Nate Vainio: The reference John 1135, has more syllables than the verse itself.
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  Nate Vainio: Simply, it's Jesus wept.
• 0:38
  Nate Vainio: And I remember driving that forklift up and down those aisles and unloading dog food and putting dog food up and loading trucks and what have you?
• 0:44
  Nate Vainio: I would bet you that first night I probably said it is written John 11, 35, jesus wept.
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  chataboutjesus.com: It is written.
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  Nate Vainio: John 11, 35, jesus wept.
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  Nate Vainio: And so this flood of anger and frustration and hurt and resentment, and what have you flooding over me?
• 1:00
  Nate Vainio: And I'm running up and down the aisles and if you could see my face in the podcast here, uh, you know, I mean my face is all wrinkled up cause I was quoting gritting my teeth.
• 1:09
  Nate Vainio: You know John 11, 35, just what you know.
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  Nate Vainio: Before long, before long, my mind started shifting to processing this whole story.
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  Daniel Moore: This week on connecting the gap.
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  Daniel Moore: We're going to finish up our interview with Nate Vainio on the importance of the Bible.
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  Daniel Moore: Welcome to the podcast this week.
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  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore and this is Connecting the Gap.
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  Daniel Moore: You have reached this once again.
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  Daniel Moore: I'm glad you guys are here.
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  Daniel Moore: Thank you for stopping by to check out this week's episode.
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  Daniel Moore: Last week we started a two-part interview with Nate Vainio on the importance of the Bible and why we should apply that in our lives, all those scriptures, how they are powerful, how they can change us.
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  Daniel Moore: Hope you guys got something from last week.
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  Daniel Moore: We're going to wrap that up this week with part two of that series that we sat down and recorded and hopefully you'll receive something from this week as well.
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  Daniel Moore: You know, more than half around 52 percent of older Gen Z between the ages of 22 and 26 say their lives have been transformed by Scripture.
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  Daniel Moore: The younger Gen Z, ages of 18 to 21, outpace older Gen Z in Bible curiosity at 56% to 34%.
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  Daniel Moore: 52% of Americans say they wish they read Scripture more, but only 14% say they have increased their Bible reading in the past year.
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  Daniel Moore: Bible engagement improves human flourishing, a measurement encompassing happiness, close social relationships, purpose, mental and physical health, character and virtue, and financial stability.
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  Daniel Moore: Practicing Christians registered 7.8 on the Human Flourishing Scale, compared to 6.9% for non-practicing Christians and 6.7% for non-believers.
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  Daniel Moore: Those who volunteer at church are more than twice as likely to give at the highest financial level than those who don't, and community volunteers are 60% more likely to give at the highest level than those who don't volunteer in the community.
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  Daniel Moore: Faith is stronger among adult Christians who have switched from their childhood religion, whether evangelical, historically black, protestant or mainline Protestant or Catholic.
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  Daniel Moore: The Bible changes things.
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  Daniel Moore: It changes our lives, and this week we're going to continue our discussion and help you to realize even more how important the Bible is in our life and how it stands the test of time, the truth of God's holy word.
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  Daniel Moore: Without further ado, we're going to go ahead and let's get started into part two of this series with Nate Vainio.
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  Daniel Moore: He is the host of Something to Gnaw On podcast.
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  Daniel Moore: You'll need to check that out at somethingtognawoncom and we're going to go ahead now and get started into part two of our.
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  Daniel Moore: You're breathing out at the same time.
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  Nate Vainio: And the importance of that with regard to this conversation is when you go back to 2 Timothy 3.16, a lot of versions will say all scripture is given by inspiration of God.
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  Nate Vainio: Inspiration, that translation is theo noustos in the greek, which theo would be god, noustos would be, uh, breathe, or air powered god, air powered I.
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  Nate Vainio: I say air powered because for the guys that are out there, they would recognize the word pneumatic like a pneumatic tool right you know you can drive 10 nails with a, with a eighth of an inch movement of your trigger finger.
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  Nate Vainio: You know, with an air nailer as opposed to swinging a hammer 40 times you know to put that many nails down.
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  Nate Vainio: So there's power, there's God-breathed power in all of Scripture, and so when Jesus says man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Father, there's that dynamic of breath and word, and each word is thrust forward with breath, with power.
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  Nate Vainio: And what's interesting is if—can we do a random crash course through the Bible.
• 6:48
  Daniel Moore: Sure.
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  Nate Vainio: Sometimes, you know, there are those who do studies of the Bible that are more expository, like they'll go to a chapter and they will spend an hour or five Sundays, or you know whatever, in a chapter or a book or whatever.
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  Nate Vainio: There are other times that you look at this and you follow a thread through Scripture, and that's what I want to do here real quick, and that is to go to Genesis, and we're going to hit a couple of different verses real quick here and go all the way to Revelation.
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  Nate Vainio: Trust me, it'll go fast, but it's following a thread through Scripture that highlights the power of the word, the power of the breath, of God's breath, god's word coming out of his mouth and how powerful that is mouth and how powerful that is.
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  Nate Vainio: And fold my hand here where we come back to with this is that when you look at that leather-bound Bible sitting on your coffee table, that is power.
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  Nate Vainio: What is in there is power.
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  Nate Vainio: The question as to whether or not we unleash it and get into it, that's another story, but that's a discipline issue, not an existence issue.
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  Nate Vainio: So if we go to Genesis, just begin this thing right in the beginning in Genesis, how does God create?
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  Nate Vainio: He speaks Power.
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  Nate Vainio: Boom.
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  Nate Vainio: Now that said, go to chapter 2, verse 7.
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  Nate Vainio: Then the Lord, god, formed the man from the dust of the ground.
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  Nate Vainio: Think about the intimacy of that.
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  Nate Vainio: Everything else was kind of spoken, but he's getting with it.
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  Nate Vainio: He's intimately acquainted with this thing.
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  Nate Vainio: Then he breathed the breath of life into the man's nostrils and the man became a living person Deuteronomy 6.
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  Nate Vainio: Let me back up.
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  Nate Vainio: So power, that's.
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  Nate Vainio: What separates us from everything else in creation is that we were created by an intentional breath.
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  Nate Vainio: In addition to the fact that God created by speaking and that has breath to it, there's a level here that is above and beyond that.
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  Nate Vainio: There's moving into Deuteronomy real quick.
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  Nate Vainio: We'll come back to the breath deal.
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  Nate Vainio: I'm just going to move through some of these books real quick.
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  Nate Vainio: When Moses is teaching the Israelites about getting them ready to go into the promised land, he talks with them about Deuteronomy 6, verses 5.
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  Nate Vainio: And he talks about this is one of the most famous.
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  Nate Vainio: Jesus brings this up in the Gospels.
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  Nate Vainio: He says you must love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and your soul and all your strength, and you must commit yourselves wholeheartedly to these commands that I'm giving you.
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  Nate Vainio: Now here's what I wanted us to catch here real quick.
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  Nate Vainio: It says repeat them again and again to your children.
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  Nate Vainio: Talk about them when you're at home and on the road and when you're going to bed and when you're getting up.
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  Nate Vainio: So when are you supposed to talk about all this stuff?
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  Nate Vainio: You and I are supposed to be talking about this and we don't.
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  Nate Vainio: And what's he talking about?
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  Nate Vainio: God's word, so okay.
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  Nate Vainio: So let's skip forward a couple.
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  Nate Vainio: What do a couple of other Bible books have to say about it?
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  Nate Vainio: Psalms david says the lord merely spoke and the heavens were created.
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  Nate Vainio: He breathed the word and all the stars were born at the same time.
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  Nate Vainio: Isaiah well, not at the same time technically, but I mean isaiah 11.4,.
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  Nate Vainio: He says he will give justice to the poor and make fair decisions for the exploited.
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  Nate Vainio: The earth will shake at the force of his word and one breath from him.
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  Nate Vainio: John 20,.
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  Nate Vainio: Here's another one, john 20,.
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  Nate Vainio: This is after Jesus has resurrected, before he ascends, he manages to walk through the wall and catch the disciples there and he says Peace, be with you.
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  Nate Vainio: As the Father has sent me, so I am sending you.
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  Nate Vainio: Then he breathed on them and said Receive the Holy Spirit.
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  Nate Vainio: So now we see another aspect of the power is the Holy Spirit is transferred in a breath, you know.
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  Nate Vainio: And then we get to 2 Timothy.
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  Nate Vainio: About all scripture is God-breathed.
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  Nate Vainio: Where that word now shifts.
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  Nate Vainio: The metaphor, for the word shifts from breath to a two-edged sword.
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  Nate Vainio: Listen to this, for the word of God, the word that we've been talking about, is alive and powerful.
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  Nate Vainio: It's sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword cutting between soul and spirit, joint and marrow.
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  Nate Vainio: It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires.
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  Nate Vainio: Nothing in all creation is hidden from God.
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  Nate Vainio: Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we're accountable.
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  Nate Vainio: So, when you start getting into the word and letting the word get into you, that power that we're talking about here, the power that creates, the power that brought us to life, the power that, quite honestly, it's hard to say, but it brings judgment as well.
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  Nate Vainio: But it brought this world into existence, it brought the stars, it brought you and me.
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  Nate Vainio: It also has the ability to get down on a microscopic level and look at our hearts and say, okay, you're struggling, nate, with unforgiveness, and you're struggling with bitterness, and you're struggling.
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  Nate Vainio: And it began to go.
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  Nate Vainio: So, coming full circle, here it comes back.
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  Nate Vainio: As I began to get into that word, this is what was the reality, was the power of the word was getting into me and it was starting to dissect things.
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  Nate Vainio: And as I would begin to quote, as I would begin to quote, uh, scripture, in these times, not only and this, I think, is where the, the, the discipline, needs to turn a corner from Christianity uh one to Christianity 2.0 or something of that nature, where it's not just reading it in or hearing it in, but speaking it out.
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  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and that's one thing you know.
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  Daniel Moore: Take David, for instance.
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  Daniel Moore: Yeah, he always liked to pray those dangerous prayers, what I call them.
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  Daniel Moore: Yep, you know he'd come out and say out and say search my heart, god, psalm 139.
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  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and a lot of us are scared to pray that prayer because we know what's inside there, we know God's going to see it.
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  Daniel Moore: God already knows it's there anyway.
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  Daniel Moore: But when we can actually come to that point where we can actually say that God, search me.
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  Daniel Moore: If there's anything in there, I need this cleared out, I need this cleansed out, that's when we come to that point of humility.
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  Daniel Moore: You know where we're actually able to change our life and get our priorities back straight.
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  Daniel Moore: I think a lot of times.
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  Daniel Moore: I love what you just walked through there.
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  Daniel Moore: I 've actually never seen the scriptures put together like that before, and that was a new one for me and I really liked that.
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  Daniel Moore: One thing that I think people something that was crossing my mind as you were talking there a lot of people, when they have strongholds in their life addictions or whatever you want to call them people turn around, they try to fight that stronghold, they try to go against that particular thing instead of realizing these strongholds that are in our lives.
• 14:48
  Daniel Moore: They're put there by a living deity, I guess is the best way to put it.
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  Daniel Moore: You're fighting Satan.
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  Daniel Moore: You're fighting him, all of his demonic forces, that spiritual warfare that's going on out there daily in the atmosphere above us.
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  Daniel Moore: That's really where we need to be fighting.
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  Daniel Moore: That's why that word is so important With Jesus.
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  Daniel Moore: When you brought up the story about Jesus, when Satan took him to tempting, jesus used the word to fight back to him.
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  Daniel Moore: That's a perfect example of how we fight this stuff that we have holding onto our life in these different areas.
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  Daniel Moore: That's really the only way we, you know, have holding onto our life in these different areas.
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  Daniel Moore: That's really the only way we can get over that.
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  Nate Vainio: And the simplicity of the fight really becomes the ability to quote Scripture.
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  Nate Vainio: And some people are going to listen into that and they're going to say what I mean.
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  Nate Vainio: Don't we have to, you know, anoint with oil and be down at the altar and, you know, have this hallelujah ho down in the front, and you know, and don't we have to anoint with oil and be down at the altar and have this hallelujah ho down in the front.
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  Nate Vainio: And don't get me wrong, I don't want to downplay the dynamic of spiritually addressing these things in prayer.
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  Nate Vainio: Don't want to do that at all.
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  Nate Vainio: But I'm amazed at the power and the simplicity of the spoken word and I led into it a moment ago and let me finish up the story.
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  Nate Vainio: It was I would be driving my forklift and those thoughts would come over me, and they would come over me in a wave.
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  Nate Vainio: I mean, if anybody out there is listening to this that has ever experienced it, I pray God would bring it to their mind right now to where they could connect with this, Because there are times where those thought processes will hit you like a flood or a wave and they'll just blitz you.
• 16:46
  Nate Vainio: And listen, I grew up in the church.
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  Nate Vainio: I mean we used to sing Bible songs as a kid.
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  Nate Vainio: We would sing scripture and when I say that we'd seen scripture, memory verse songs as opposed to just songs.
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  Nate Vainio: So I remember that and I know scripture.
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  Nate Vainio: But when this stuff would come over me and I would try to quote scripture, I couldn't get anything to come to my mind.
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  Nate Vainio: And I remember when I first had this happen, I had the only scripture that would come to mind was John 11, 35.
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  Nate Vainio: I remember teaching it to my kids, the first verse I ever talked to my kids because why, well, it's the shortest verse in Scripture.
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  Nate Vainio: The reference John 11, 35, has more syllables than the verse itself.
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  Nate Vainio: Simply, it's Jesus wept.
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  Nate Vainio: And I remember driving that forklift up and down those aisles and unloading dog food and putting dog food up and loading trucks and what have you.
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  Nate Vainio: And just I would bet you that first night I probably said it is written John 11, 35, jesus wept.
• 17:46
  Nate Vainio: It is written John 11, 35, jesus wept.
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  Nate Vainio: And so this flood of anger and frustration and hurt and resentment and what have you?
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  Nate Vainio: Flooding over me?
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  Nate Vainio: And I'm running up and down the aisles and if you could see my face in the podcast here, you know, I mean my face is all wrinkled up because I was quoting.
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  Nate Vainio: You grit my teeth.
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  Nate Vainio: You know.
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  Nate Vainio: John 1135.
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  Nate Vainio: You know, before long, before long, my mind started shifting to processing this whole story John 1135.
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  Nate Vainio: Jesus wept.
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  Nate Vainio: John 1135.
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  Nate Vainio: Jesus, the king of kings, the God man who doesn't have to weep, is weeping, and I'm beginning to process this.
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  Nate Vainio: And what happened was is that process of the word being spoken in that moment drowned out, chased out?
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  Nate Vainio: That attack?
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  Nate Vainio: And I still do it today.
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  Nate Vainio: When I feel those things come on, I begin to quote scripture.
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  Nate Vainio: And so they.
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  Nate Vainio: So they're.
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  Nate Vainio: And it reveals in our conversation, though, kind of a secondary problem that we we aren't able to address with the statistics from Barna or this other deal is.
• 19:03
  Nate Vainio: It's one thing to get into it, it's another thing to say, hey, have you hidden the word in your heart that you can quote it, that you can, or are you so dependent upon technology, that which is not necessarily a bad thing, but, you know, if you're in a job or something comes up like that, do you have it on instant recall where you can quote?
• 19:23
  Nate Vainio: You know psalm 51 yeah, you know, created me a clean heart.
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  Nate Vainio: Oh god, renew right spirit within me.
• 19:31
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, you know, and the only reason I can know know how to say that.
• 19:34
  Nate Vainio: Do you remember back when we used to sing songs?
• 19:36
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, that were actually scripture.
• 19:38
  Nate Vainio: I mean, it wasn't somebody's lyrics, it was like just somebody putting music to.
• 19:43
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, I remember those days it was a lot of them.
• 19:46
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, I was thinking about that and I really wish and I don't want to be like the old curmudgeon I really wish some of our and I hope somebody would hear this and run with it and not take it as a pot shot I really wish somebody would step up and begin to put more Scripture back to music.
• 20:07
  Nate Vainio: And part of the reason for saying that is one yeah, I think there's a void there.
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  Nate Vainio: But two, as far as an ability to remember Scripture, the musical side of it, if you can put that to music, the musical side of it, if you can put that to music, I uncovered a uh, the other the other day.
• 20:29
  Nate Vainio: I was um looking for something in the garage in a in a in a uh basket and what have you.
• 20:32
  Nate Vainio: And I found an old cassette tape from my time out in the Seattle area and, uh, there was, we had a youth, um, we had a youth uh sponsor and they had a band called Inside Out and they were good people, really good people.
• 20:50
  Nate Vainio: One of the songs, they had some really cool songs and they were kind of cutting edge, I think for the time.
• 20:55
  Nate Vainio: I don't think they ever really made it big in terms of the musical world or what have you.
• 21:02
  Nate Vainio: But one of the things that they did on there is they put Psalm 51 to music and I still haven't popped that cassette back in, but that would have been 1988, 89, and I can still quote Psalm 51, based upon my remembrance of his song.
• 21:23
  Nate Vainio: Now, he brought the music but the words are scripture, and so there's that dynamic to that and I think, bringing this to some extent kind of full circle back to the idea of why we did the podcast, the crash course or what have you, there is that element of getting into scripture, but there's also this element of letting the scripture get into you in such a way that you can speak it out.
• 21:55
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, and what's interesting about that as well is.
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  Nate Vainio: So let me take these verses.
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  Nate Vainio: You ready to go one step higher?
• 22:05
  Nate Vainio: Sure, kick it one step higher here.
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  Nate Vainio: So, okay, we're talking about the breath of God, the word of God.
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  Nate Vainio: We see the power in that, from Genesis through Psalms and you know that we could dig a lot deeper through those books as well.
• 22:20
  Nate Vainio: But we're crash course in this thing, right.
• 22:21
  Nate Vainio: Well, but we're just, we're crash course in this thing, right.
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  Nate Vainio: So we get to hebrews and it shifts the metaphor a bit to the word of god being like a two-edged sword.
• 22:32
  Nate Vainio: When you turn a few more pages and you get to the book of revelation, john, in revelation 1, john's John's picture of Jesus in heaven is white, flowing hair, red eyes, eyes of fire.
• 22:51
  Nate Vainio: He's got the keys to death, hell and the grave in his hands.
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  Nate Vainio: He's got feet of bronze polished bronze, I think it says, and a golden sash and what have you?
• 23:01
  Nate Vainio: And it talks about a two-edged.
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  Nate Vainio: It doesn't just say a sword, it says a two-edged sword coming out of his mouth.
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  Nate Vainio: And so when you start thinking about the judgment and stuff in Revelation, that's where it's at.
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  Nate Vainio: When he addresses the church at Pergamum in Revelation 2.
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  Nate Vainio: , he identifies himself that it's really a unique deal.
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  Nate Vainio: And then, to cap it off, at the end, in chapter 19, he again identifies himself, or he identifies Christ, by the two-edged sword that is coming to judge, and the power in that, power in that, and it's just, it's a picture of the word coming out of the mouth and how powerful that is.
• 23:52
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, how powerful that word that you and I have on our table that's collecting dust, maybe, maybe not, but what we have access to, how powerful that is in our lives, yeah, and I got a statistic here.
• 24:06
  Daniel Moore: It says that 52% of Americans say they wish they read scripture more, but only 14% say that they have increased their Bible reading in the past year, and this was done in 2023.
• 24:18
  Daniel Moore: So we're just a year into this here.
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  Daniel Moore: I think.
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  Daniel Moore: You know, when I read that, I can think of case after case after case of people that I know personally that are in that boat.
• 24:33
  Daniel Moore: You know they, I have friends that come up and they're like you know, man, I don't know how you do that podcast and do that every week, and you know all the Bible studying and all.
• 24:44
  Daniel Moore: I just don't think I could do that.
• 24:45
  Daniel Moore: You know, and you always hear stuff like that and it's like you know it's.
• 24:51
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, it takes time, you know, but God has put this in my heart and I have a priority to make sure that I fulfill what God has called me to do, and I love the word of God.
• 25:04
  Daniel Moore: You know I want to be in it.
• 25:08
  Daniel Moore: I want to learn more.
• 25:09
  Daniel Moore: I'm 52 years old.
• 25:10
  Daniel Moore: I've been in church my whole life, but I really feel like it's just been within this last 10 years that I've really come to an understanding of the Word of God and what it truly can and can't.
• 25:20
  Daniel Moore: You know what it can do in our life and our battles and all that kind of thing and when we can understand that.
• 25:27
  Daniel Moore: You know, I just finished up a several-month series on spiritual warfare and when you were talking about learning the Scripture the very last episode that just released this week actually one of the steps of being able to help fight against spiritual warfare especially if you are praying over someone that's got a possession in their life or some demonic possession going on or that kind of thing you need to know the Word.
• 25:56
  Daniel Moore: That's one of the steps.
• 25:57
  Daniel Moore: You need to know the Word before you go into that battle.
• 26:00
  Daniel Moore: I mean, we can pray and we can have some of these different steps or whatever, but if we don't have the word and be able to because that's how Jesus did it, that's you know that was demonic warfare.
• 26:13
  Daniel Moore: That day when Satan took him and was tempting him, that was demonic spiritual warfare.
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  Daniel Moore: And anytime you think about that story, what's the primary thing that comes out of that that took place?
• 26:26
  Daniel Moore: He spoke scripture.
• 26:28
  Daniel Moore: I mean it just it all comes back to that.
• 26:30
  Nate Vainio: What's interesting, too, is in this moment.
• 26:34
  Nate Vainio: Okay, so we're just step back and use a quick snapshot of our conversation here.
• 26:39
  Nate Vainio: You know, we're talking about the spiritual attack in that moment and how to deal with that.
• 26:47
  Nate Vainio: There's three levels in which that attack comes.
• 26:54
  Nate Vainio: You know, in addition to that, in the conversation we're talking about the personal struggles that we have.
• 26:58
  Nate Vainio: You know, what's interesting is you get to John.
• 27:03
  Nate Vainio: 1, john and John.
• 27:04
  Nate Vainio: How does John talk about you?
• 27:07
  Nate Vainio: The deeds, the issues of this world, the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life.
• 27:13
  Nate Vainio: What levels did the devil attack Jesus at Now?
• 27:20
  Nate Vainio: A lot of times when we say lust of the eye, we think in an immoral sense, but the word deals with desire.
• 27:27
  Nate Vainio: The word is easily translated, or accurately I should say accurately translated desire, and it can definitely include that, but it could be the desires of the eye, the desires of the flesh and the pride of life.
• 27:43
  Nate Vainio: And that's what those, those three temptations, address.
• 27:47
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, interestingly enough, go back to genesis and the temptation in the garden.
• 27:54
  Nate Vainio: What was it that eve said about she saw?
• 27:58
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, that it was pleasing to the eyes, good for food and could make them wise.
• 28:03
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, less than the eye, less than the flesh, the pride for food and could make them wise Lust of the eye, lust of the flesh, the pride of life, and it's those three.
• 28:15
  Nate Vainio: And that's where we're attacked when we have those struggles, when we have those strongholds.
• 28:18
  Nate Vainio: And to abandon an idea of looking at this, of reading scripture or whatever, abandons the solution to the very problem that every one of us is going to face in this life.
• 28:26
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and we've been facing it since day one.
• 28:29
  Daniel Moore: Yep, it's what's crazy about it.
• 28:31
  Daniel Moore: And ignoring it, ignoring it.
• 28:34
  Nate Vainio: I read something today they were talking about something else completely, but it says ignoring the truth doesn't absolve you from the consequences of the truth.
• 28:42
  Nate Vainio: Yep, that's very good.
• 28:44
  Nate Vainio: I like that you don't have to believe it.
• 28:47
  Nate Vainio: You don't, but your life's going to be an absolute mess and you can't ignore that.
• 28:52
  Daniel Moore: Yep, that's right.
• 28:53
  Daniel Moore: So, yeah, it's amazing to me that you know, thousands of years ago, when Adam and Eve was in that garden, satan's using that same tactic to this day, very, very successfully.
• 29:06
  Daniel Moore: It just never ceases to blow my mind.
• 29:09
  Daniel Moore: We're sitting in with Nate Vainio this week with Something to Not On podcast.
• 29:14
  Daniel Moore: He's the host of that podcast talking about the importance of God's Word.
• 29:19
  Daniel Moore: We're going to take a break here for a moment and when we come back, we're going to continue and conclude this two-part series with Nate Vineo.
• 29:27
  Daniel Moore: We'll be back right after this.
• 29:37
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• 29:44
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• 29:51
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• 30:01
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• 30:04
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• 30:07
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• 30:14
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• 30:21
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• 30:30
  Daniel Moore: That's 888-NEED-HIM welcome back to the podcast this week.
• 31:00
  Daniel Moore: I'm'm Daniel Moore this is Connecting the Gap and we've been sitting in with Nate Vainio.
• 31:05
  Daniel Moore: He's the host of Some Things Not on Podcast.
• 31:07
  Daniel Moore: He's a fellow churchgoer of mine.
• 31:09
  Daniel Moore: He's been doing some excellent episodes this year on his podcast on studying the Bible.
• 31:15
  Daniel Moore: He's been doing a quick crash course through the Old Testament at this point, just trying to pique your interest a little bit into what's in God's Word and why it's important that we should be studying it.
• 31:25
  Daniel Moore: So we're going to go ahead now and get into the second part of this week's episode as we conclude with Nate Vainio, the host of Something to Know on podcast.
• 31:36
  Daniel Moore: It seems like when you think of the spiritual, the warfare that's going on out there between you know the good and the evil, satan and Jesus and all this stuff that we have going on.
• 31:45
  Daniel Moore: It sounds so complicated, you know, when you sit there and think about it, but in all reality it's not.
• 31:50
  Daniel Moore: He has these simple little tools that he knows is going to take us down if we're not watching.
• 31:56
  Daniel Moore: You know, like the Bible tells us, we've always got to be watching and ready.
• 32:01
  Daniel Moore: He's prowling around like a lion, just waiting to devour us and to chew us up and spit us back out and if we're not careful, he accomplishes what he's trying to do and leaves us in the dust.
• 32:13
  Daniel Moore: And we're sitting there thinking what in the world just happened a while ago and it just never ceases to amaze me.
• 32:19
  Daniel Moore: I mean, I look back at my own life I'm speaking to the choir.
• 32:23
  Daniel Moore: I mean I think of all the times that, like I said earlier, I grew up in church, but it doesn't mean that I was a Christian my whole life.
• 32:28
  Daniel Moore: You know, there was times I was stupid and went my own way and did my own thing.
• 32:32
  Daniel Moore: I fell for it, just like everybody else did, you know, and none of us are exempt from that, and we have to make sure that our priorities are there and that, you know, we've got to want that relationship with God in order to nurture that.
• 32:47
  Daniel Moore: So, as we close the podcast this week again, you're listening to Connecting the Gap podcast and I'm Daniel Moore, the host here, with Nate Vainio this week who is the host of Something to Knot on podcast.
• 32:58
  Daniel Moore: We've been talking about the Bible here over these episodes here and how it's important in our life.
• 33:06
  Daniel Moore: It's probably, in my opinion, probably one of the most overlooked important things that we have in our life in a lot of cases, unfortunately, I know.
• 33:16
  Daniel Moore: You know, nate and I we've talked a little bit about it here this evening off the mic, but just how people have a tendency sometimes, you know, just going to church on Sunday and that's the extent of it, you know they leave church and then the rest of the week is for their time and all that kind of thing.
• 33:34
  Daniel Moore: You know, if we're going to be successful in this battle that we're in because we all know that we're in a battle and Satan's not going to stop.
• 33:45
  Daniel Moore: He's going to keep fighting us until the day that we die.
• 33:48
  Daniel Moore: Nobody's exempt from that and if we really want to be successful in this walk that we have of life and get to those rewards that God promises us someday once we reach heaven, that's going to require a little bit of work on our part.
• 34:05
  Daniel Moore: We can't just sit back in the chair and relax and, you know, just kind of cruise along on the ride here and not do our part, because Satan's not going to let that happen.
• 34:13
  Daniel Moore: He's going to be coming after us and making sure that we've got some trouble along the way and trying to get us to.
• 34:20
  Daniel Moore: You know, do things that we shouldn't be doing sometimes, and he sure gives us a lot of time fillers also to fill our times with things that really are pretty shallow.
• 34:31
  Daniel Moore: But you know the Bible.
• 34:33
  Daniel Moore: Not only is it a roadmap for us, for our life, not only does it lay out the plan of salvation, the reason that we are here.
• 34:42
  Daniel Moore: There's so many things about life that we can learn just by reading God's Word.
• 34:47
  Daniel Moore: But I've got a few things here that I want to leave with you guys this week as we wrap this episode up.
• 34:54
  Daniel Moore: One of the things that the Bible does is how God reveals His character.
• 34:58
  Daniel Moore: In Exodus 34, as he was passing in front of Moses, moses was proclaiming the Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin.
• 35:16
  Daniel Moore: Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished.
• 35:19
  Daniel Moore: He punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.
• 35:24
  Daniel Moore: Here in that one, those two scriptures, that scope of two scriptures right there, moses describes how God is a loving God, how he cares and he loves us so much, but yet he's also a just God.
• 35:36
  Daniel Moore: Whenever we're wrong and we do things that we shouldn't.
• 35:40
  Daniel Moore: He's not beyond chastising us for that.
• 35:42
  Daniel Moore: God is so many things and the Bible explains that to us.
• 35:47
  Daniel Moore: It gives us instruction for daily life.
• 35:49
  Daniel Moore: It teaches us how to pray.
• 35:51
  Daniel Moore: You know, I know a lot of people and you probably do as well, nate that says they don't know how to pray.
• 35:55
  Daniel Moore: You know, or if you ask them to pray, they get embarrassed and, you know, stumble through some words or whatever.
• 36:01
  Daniel Moore: It's just not something that they make a regular practice in their life.
• 36:04
  Daniel Moore: And it's not like we have to be scholars in praying by any means whatsoever.
• 36:11
  Daniel Moore: Jesus, he prayed a lot of very short prayers when he was walking this earth.
• 36:15
  Daniel Moore: It doesn't have to be a scholarly thing, it just needs to come from our heart.
• 36:20
  Daniel Moore: And of course, in the Bible, in Luke, it gives us a little map there about how we can pray.
• 36:26
  Daniel Moore: You know Jesus was teaching how to pray.
• 36:29
  Daniel Moore: It also explains the gospel and, of course, without the gospel we don't have a reason to live.
• 36:34
  Daniel Moore: We don't have a place that we're going to be going someday if we don't understand what the gospel truly is.
• 36:41
  Daniel Moore: And it also explains us how to share that gospel, once that we do have it, to share it with others.
• 36:46
  Daniel Moore: It teaches us how to trust God.
• 36:48
  Daniel Moore: It shows us what God's will is and what's one of the biggest questions that you, especially when you get into church leadership, if you become like a youth pastor or a life group leader or whatever.
• 36:59
  Daniel Moore: I don't know how many times I've been asked how do you know the will of God?
• 37:04
  Daniel Moore: I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing in my life.
• 37:06
  Daniel Moore: How do I figure that out?
• 37:08
  Daniel Moore: I don't know how many times I've heard that 1992.
• 37:13
  Nate Vainio: Could I bust?
• 37:14
  Nate Vainio: in with just a crazy little 1992, I graduated from high school and we had three high schools in town and they all got together for a baccalaureate service and they had one student from each deal got five minutes to share a Bible verse or something graduation to about 3,000 people.
• 37:39
  Nate Vainio: It was the most people I've ever spoken to and what was funny about it was I just read that verse and just a brief description of hey, we're getting ready to go to college, we're going to want to know what God's will is for us.
• 37:51
  Nate Vainio: So this is what we got to do.
• 37:53
  Nate Vainio: Don't conform to the pattern.
• 37:54
  Nate Vainio: And I remember people who just showed up because it was a graduation thing to do.
• 37:59
  Nate Vainio: It came up and was like man, I liked how you, you didn't just read it, you explained it.
• 38:06
  Daniel Moore: You know what?
• 38:08
  Nate Vainio: I'll never forget that.
• 38:09
  Nate Vainio: It was that.
• 38:11
  Nate Vainio: I'm sorry you probably cut this out of the deal there, but it was just.
• 38:13
  Nate Vainio: I've always loved that verse for that reason, and you were talking about just needing to know God's will.
• 38:22
  Nate Vainio: That's right where the instruction is right there.
• 38:26
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, you know.
• 38:27
  Daniel Moore: And of course, if we're going to know what God's will is, we've got to have that desire to want to fulfill the will.
• 38:34
  Daniel Moore: If we get it, you know it's like, and along with that comes reading the word and prayer time.
• 38:39
  Daniel Moore: There's a lot involved there, so you have to be dedicated and have your priorities where they need to be.
• 38:44
  Daniel Moore: But Romans 12, too is the Scripture that we're referencing there for showing us what God's will is.
• 38:51
  Daniel Moore: The Bible's also full of God's promises.
• 38:53
  Daniel Moore: I mean, what do we have to live for if we don't know that God's promised us some things in this life?
• 38:59
  Daniel Moore: You know and it's such a sweet thing to know that God cares about us and loves us so much that he gives us promises and things to look for in our daily life.
• 39:09
  Daniel Moore: Deuteronomy 31.8,.
• 39:11
  Daniel Moore: The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you.
• 39:13
  Daniel Moore: He will never leave you nor forsake you.
• 39:15
  Daniel Moore: Do not be afraid, do not be discouraged.
• 39:17
  Daniel Moore: That's probably one of the best promises that we could ever have as a Christian.
• 39:21
  Daniel Moore: Is that God's right there by our side.
• 39:23
  Daniel Moore: It's historically accurate and it's interesting because there's not probably a month that goes by that if I get on the computer and I open up my browser and it goes to msncom or somewhere.
• 39:37
  Daniel Moore: I'll see a story somewhere where some other historical fact has been proven.
• 39:43
  Daniel Moore: That was in the Bible and I love it every time I see one of those articles.
• 39:47
  Daniel Moore: You know, because we have so many atheists out there that don't think any of this is true.
• 39:51
  Daniel Moore: But yet on a yearly basis, time and time again, the Bible is proven to be historically accurate.
• 39:59
  Daniel Moore: And we talked a little bit about forgiveness earlier.
• 40:01
  Daniel Moore: You know, forgiveness is a very hard thing to do.
• 40:04
  Daniel Moore: Even as a Christian, it's hard for us to forgive people sometimes.
• 40:06
  Daniel Moore: But the Bible teaches us how to do that and how to be a forgiving person.
• 40:11
  Daniel Moore: It's full of truth and there's no doubt about it.
• 40:14
  Daniel Moore: The Bible we talked about how the parables, you know, versus the actual, real stories that actually happened.
• 40:21
  Daniel Moore: A lot of people like to think that the Bible's figurative and you know Jesus did use some parable-style stories at times to get his point across.
• 40:31
  Daniel Moore: But I actually did an episode here last week it was a short on when the sun stood still and when Joshua was fighting that battle and he asked for God to stop the moon and the sun while they fought that battle.
• 40:48
  Daniel Moore: And you know one of the outlooks on that story by some scholars.
• 40:53
  Daniel Moore: They think that was just a figurative story.
• 40:56
  Daniel Moore: If you start studying into that a little bit, there's actually a belief out there that that was just figurative.
• 41:01
  Daniel Moore: It's like a poetic type story story like you hear sometimes in ancient scripts.
• 41:06
  Daniel Moore: But in all reality we can't look at it that way, because if we consider certain stories to be figurative in the Bible then we're going to have a tendency to think other stories are figurative and we know that's not it.
• 41:18
  Daniel Moore: The Bible is the literal Word of God.
• 41:21
  Daniel Moore: It's full of truth.
• 41:23
  Daniel Moore: Everything that's quoted in there and said in there comes from the mouth of the Father, and so we always have to understand that it is full of truth and the truth is what sets us free.
• 41:32
  Daniel Moore: It also asks and it answers big questions, sometimes questions we don't like to be asked ourselves.
• 41:39
  Daniel Moore: It kind of reads our mail, so to speak.
• 41:41
  Daniel Moore: But in many ways we need that sometimes to get us back on track.
• 41:48
  Daniel Moore: It's culturally relevant, as we started out, this podcast with those statistics of how it's the best-selling book ever holds Guinness Book of World Records.
• 41:58
  Daniel Moore: There's not a book out there that can say that, because a lot of books that have been written over time by man.
• 42:03
  Daniel Moore: They don't fit today, they're not really culturally relevant.
• 42:08
  Daniel Moore: But the Bible is one book that, from the very beginning of time, has always stayed relevant to where we're at today, and a scripture there is Ecclesiastes 1.9.
• 42:18
  Daniel Moore: What has been will be again.
• 42:20
  Daniel Moore: What has been done will be done again.
• 42:22
  Daniel Moore: There is nothing new under the sun, and that Bible is always going to be relevant until the end of time.
• 42:30
  Daniel Moore: And the number 14 reason it reveals how much God loves us.
• 42:34
  Daniel Moore: I think that there's really.
• 42:36
  Daniel Moore: You know, things can happen to us in life and God can take care of us.
• 42:41
  Daniel Moore: He can work miracles in our life, he can supply our needs.
• 42:44
  Daniel Moore: But, you know, sometimes as human beings those things become superficial to us and we have a tendency to forget.
• 42:51
  Daniel Moore: You know, god supplies this or he supplies that.
• 42:55
  Daniel Moore: Several years down the road we forget about that.
• 42:58
  Daniel Moore: You know, the Bible is there to remind us over and over how much God really loves us and what he did when he gave his son to go on that cross and when Jesus gave his life and took those stripes for our salvation and our healing.
• 43:10
  Daniel Moore: There's no greater love than that, and so I just want to thank you, nate, for coming in here and sitting in with me this week.
• 43:18
  Nate Vainio: This is so we've been discussing for a while.
• 43:22
  Daniel Moore: This has been awesome.
• 43:23
  Daniel Moore: I think that after listening to this podcast, with with what you've delivered here and what what we've discussed and everything, I don't think anybody have any excuse not to pick that Bible up.
• 43:34
  Daniel Moore: That's that cover off.
• 43:36
  Daniel Moore: Go check it out.
• 43:38
  Nate Vainio: You know one of the best things you can do.
• 43:41
  Nate Vainio: You know one of the best things you can do.
• 43:43
  Nate Vainio: You know if you're listening and you're at that place where you listen in, but you have a hard time making that next step.
• 43:51
  Nate Vainio: One don't feel guilt, don't feel encouragement.
• 43:59
  Nate Vainio: Don't feel guilt, Don't feel encouragement.
• 44:04
  Nate Vainio: We want the best for our brothers and sisters in Christ.
• 44:07
  Nate Vainio: Yes, god wants his best for you.
• 44:10
  Nate Vainio: God knows you, he wants you to know him.
• 44:13
  Nate Vainio: That's right, and getting into the word, and it's good.
• 44:19
  Nate Vainio: This medium of podcasting and Christian radio, whatever, is great, but we've got to.
• 44:27
  Nate Vainio: We've got to do better.
• 44:29
  Nate Vainio: You and I have spurring people to a place where they get into this, and so if you, if there's, as we're talking about this, if you feel that please know it's an encouragement that there's something more for you there.
• 44:43
  Nate Vainio: And the best thing to do when you grab that Bible is to say, lord, speak to me, speak to me in a special way.
• 44:52
  Nate Vainio: I was reading a story.
• 44:53
  Nate Vainio: I'm sorry I could probably go on for hours here talking about this, but I was reading a story yesterday that I'll be incorporating into my podcast.
• 45:04
  Nate Vainio: I don't know if that podcast will be coming out before this one is, so I don't know which one is tipping its hand to the other, but these guys were escaping out of Romania during the Cold War, trying to get out of religious persecution, and one of the three men was having second thoughts about making the escape and he prayed and he said, lord, if you want me to do this, please show me.
• 45:35
  Nate Vainio: And he begins to open his Bible and begins to read in there and there's a very distinct moment, a very distinct verse right there, that he speaks there, that God revealed to him in that moment.
• 45:45
  Nate Vainio: And to this day, these two guys are in Nashville.
• 45:48
  Nate Vainio: One is a pastor in Phoenix, arizona, and I won't tip the hand of the story of the miraculous layer upon a miracle, layered upon another miracle, on another miracle, to get those guys out of there.
• 46:04
  Nate Vainio: But the spur in his side to get him to do what he needed to do came in the form of reading scripture and God revealing himself, god directing him to one specific passage in there.
• 46:18
  Nate Vainio: And so, like I was saying, if you're listening in and you've not been in the word and you don't know where to start, just pray, lord, lead me.
• 46:25
  Nate Vainio: Where do I need to dive in?
• 46:26
  Nate Vainio: What do I need to do?
• 46:28
  Daniel Moore: And don't think that you have to just go in the deepest dive ever right off the bat.
• 46:33
  Daniel Moore: You know everything is baby steps.
• 46:35
  Daniel Moore: You know Nate and I we're sitting.
• 46:37
  Daniel Moore: You know I'm three years, a little over three years into my podcast here and I know you're well over two at this point, a year and a half, a year and a half or so, you know, and don't think that we just you know, was born and then we hatched this podcast idea right off the bat.
• 46:54
  Daniel Moore: We've been around the block a few times and we've still got a lot to learn.
• 46:59
  Daniel Moore: I mean, I learn every week when I put an episode out, when I do my studying and everything I learn all the time.
• 47:05
  Daniel Moore: That's not ever going to stop until the day that we die.
• 47:08
  Daniel Moore: So you know, I know that's an excuse I hear a lot is it's the word is overwhelming.
• 47:14
  Daniel Moore: They get into the word and they just get overwhelmed.
• 47:18
  Daniel Moore: And I think, from what I've gathered, every time I that happen, it's because they're trying to dig into way too much too soon and then it just gets overwhelming to them and then they just can't proceed.
• 47:29
  Nate Vainio: You know, Ecclesiastes may not be the first book you want to go.
• 47:32
  Daniel Moore: Exactly yeah.
• 47:34
  Nate Vainio: I just pray, Lord, lead me, lead me, open my eyes, speak to my heart and show me what you want me to see of you, and then I know you've got a couple of episodes.
• 47:43
  Daniel Moore: I think that would kind of go along with what we spoke about here.
• 47:46
  Daniel Moore: If you want to tell about those, yeah.
• 47:48
  Nate Vainio: So if this conversation has kind of tripped a trigger with you that you have more questions about, um, there's one episode, one of the I would call it almost a flagship episode of mine.
• 48:00
  Nate Vainio: Uh was called death to pepe.
• 48:00
  Nate Vainio: It's a it's of mine was called Death to Pepe.
• 48:02
  Nate Vainio: It's a story, if you remember Pepe Le Pew, the character from the cartoon era, a bygone era.
• 48:11
  Nate Vainio: There it kind of puts a fun story together with the serious nature of how actually speaking God's word can really set you free from the skunks in life and I refer to the devil as a skunk, and I don't regret that.
• 48:29
  Nate Vainio: I don't take it back and I don't apologize for it.
• 48:31
  Nate Vainio: So if you're interested in digging into that a little more, that would be a great episode to check out.
• 48:38
  Nate Vainio: Another thing that Daniel touched on was the idea of the amount of time People say they don't have time for this or time for that.
• 48:46
  Nate Vainio: One of the least listened to episodes that I have how's that?
• 48:55
  Nate Vainio: One of the least listened to episodes is called Tithing your Time and I think if you have a hard time getting into scripture, I would really encourage you to take a listen to that episode.
• 49:09
  Nate Vainio: The devil has gone overboard in his efforts to drown us and to get us so busy that we don't have the time to do the things that we need to do and you end up with a bunch of anemic Christians who don't know how to quote scripture, and I would say that it's a little more of a halftime coach's speech in the locker room when you're down by five, you know, or something like that.
• 49:35
  Nate Vainio: But by the same token, I think it's a very necessary look that people need to take at how we are we letting culture dictate how we spend our time or are we going to let Scripture dictate how we're going to spend our time?
• 49:54
  Nate Vainio: So, if you're curious about that and what that would look like, that episode Tithing your Time and then the other one is Death to Pepe yeah, and those would be be if you go and look at, we'll have.
• 50:04
  Nate Vainio: I suppose we could put links to those.
• 50:06
  Nate Vainio: We can do that and, uh, go from there.
• 50:08
  Nate Vainio: So, hey, thanks so much for the opportunity.
• 50:10
  Nate Vainio: Daniel, this has been, um, you know, it's one thing to sit in your sound studio and record your own stuff and put it up there.
• 50:19
  Nate Vainio: It's another to actually have a conversation with a live human being, and this is fun, this is good.
• 50:24
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, it kind of takes it on a whole different path.
• 50:27
  Nate Vainio: Yeah, and I appreciate the for those.
• 50:30
  Nate Vainio: Obviously, most of those who are listening are your listeners, not mine.
• 50:34
  Nate Vainio: I would say Daniel has been a godsend to me for a sounding board in terms of bouncing ideas on doing this.
• 50:45
  Nate Vainio: When I started into the podcast world, I had no idea how to record anything.
• 50:51
  Nate Vainio: I had no equipment.
• 50:52
  Nate Vainio: I had no background whatsoever, so this is total new territory for me and your assistance and perspective on things has just been a godsend.
• 51:06
  Nate Vainio: So thank you very much.
• 51:06
  Nate Vainio: It is much much appreciated.
• 51:08
  Daniel Moore: Yep, you're welcome.
• 51:09
  Daniel Moore: You've got an excellent podcast.
• 51:12
  Daniel Moore: It's inspired me in many ways and I just pray blessings over your ministry as well and everything that you're endeavoring here Together.
• 51:21
  Daniel Moore: We're going to just give the devil a black eye.
• 51:23
  Daniel Moore: We're just going to take care of it.
• 51:24
  Daniel Moore: We've got several podcasting buddies that live right here close, and we all conspire between each other here occasionally.
• 51:32
  Daniel Moore: So it's a good network, that's for sure.
• 51:34
  Daniel Moore: It sure is so well.
• 51:36
  Daniel Moore: I do appreciate you coming as well and spending your time here and, like I said earlier, we're going to have Nate back again and appreciate you coming as well and spending your time here and, like I said earlier, we're going to have Nate back again and we're going to take off on a different subject the next time around.
• 51:49
  Daniel Moore: I'm not going to spoil that just yet, but he'll be coming back and we'll be doing some more episodes together here in the next couple of weeks.
• 51:55
  Daniel Moore: So that's something to look forward to.
• 51:57
  Daniel Moore: So again, just check out his podcast, something to Gnaw On and go binge.
• 52:01
  Daniel Moore: Listen to all of his episodes and check them out.
• 52:04
  Daniel Moore: He's got some excellent ones on there.
• 52:06
  Daniel Moore: As we leave today, just remember that.
• 52:08
  Daniel Moore: You know, for us as human beings, we have to eat.
• 52:12
  Daniel Moore: We have to have breakfast and lunch and dinner and snacks and all that stuff in between.
• 52:18
  Daniel Moore: If we don't, we wither away and we die, and we all make that a priority in our life.
• 52:23
  Daniel Moore: Well, your spiritual life isn't any different than your physical life.
• 52:27
  Daniel Moore: You can starve yourself spiritually if you're not careful, and we need that spiritual food just as much as we need that physical food.
• 52:34
  Daniel Moore: So my encouragement to you today is to jump into the Word and just grab on to every truth that you can, every promise that you can.
• 52:42
  Daniel Moore: You might be amazed just how it opened your eyes up to a whole new day and you can see Jesus and see God's love in a different light, and that should inspire you to want to share it with others.
• 52:55
  Daniel Moore: And I think that's of course, that's the great commission.
• 52:58
  Daniel Moore: We're supposed to be going out and sharing with others.
• 53:00
  Daniel Moore: But you can't do that if you don't get in the Word and start studying and know what you're going to share.
• 53:05
  Daniel Moore: So that's kind of what I want to put out there for this week for you guys.
• 53:13
  Daniel Moore: A challenge, that's the word I'm trying to think of.
• 53:16
  Daniel Moore: That's my challenge to you this week.
• 53:17
  Daniel Moore: Well, that's going to wrap up this episode of Connecting the Gap and this two-part series with Nate Vainio on the importance of God's Word.
• 53:26
  Daniel Moore: Nate's going to be back here in a little bit to do some more episodes with us on a different subject, so be checking out the podcast here in the next couple of weeks, as that will be coming through Right now.
• 53:40
  Daniel Moore: I wanted to leave you with another statistic.
• 53:42
  Daniel Moore: You know, covid just happened in 2020, and it actually changed and reformed a little bit the way that churchgoers looked at God's Word and how they use it.
• 53:51
  Daniel Moore: As we know, in 2020, when COVID hit, most of churches went online and had to start having online church services until the COVID virus disappeared pretty much for a while, and that actually changed people's perception of church and the Bible and how they do things when they're living for God.
• 54:12
  Daniel Moore: Online church attendees, they read the Bible more than on-site worshipers.
• 54:17
  Daniel Moore: At this point, non-believers outpace Christians in valuing several pro-social Bible-based behaviors, and Black Americans are more spiritually vibrant than whites and Hispanics.
• 54:29
  Daniel Moore: While 32% of in-person worshipers report using the Bible at least weekly on their own, 74% of online worshipers report doing so a discrepancy, that is said, that is so striking it deserves to actually be studied more.
• 54:46
  Daniel Moore: On another point, the American Bible Society found that the small group of Americans who have a hostile response to Scripture actually embrace certain Bible-based behaviors at higher rates than do scripturally engaged Christians.
• 54:59
  Daniel Moore: Based on the American Bible Society measurement scale, those hostile to the Bible outpace scripturally engaged Christians in advocating for the oppressed.
• 55:10
  Daniel Moore: They are welcoming immigrants into their community more often and they are more caring for the environment.
• 55:16
  Daniel Moore: But spiritually engaged Christians outpace those hostile to the Bible in befriending people of other religions, caring for those in prison and being good neighbors.
• 55:26
  Daniel Moore: The two groups registered equally in befriending people of other races.
• 55:33
  Daniel Moore: It's amazing, when you get into God's Word, how it changes things.
• 55:36
  Daniel Moore: Life can be going along at a certain pace.
• 55:40
  Daniel Moore: Maybe you could be in a rut.
• 55:41
  Daniel Moore: Maybe you could be in a point in your life where you really feel like things are meaningless.
• 55:46
  Daniel Moore: Why am I here?
• 55:47
  Daniel Moore: What is the point of everything that I'm doing at this point in my life?
• 55:51
  Daniel Moore: If you're not reading God's word a lot of times, we'll remain in those ruts and we'll remain stuck because we never really find the true meaning of why we're here.
• 56:01
  Daniel Moore: Crack open your Bible.
• 56:03
  Daniel Moore: Start reading some scripture.
• 56:04
  Daniel Moore: God will reveal to you very quickly why you are here and what his purpose was for creating you how he loves you.
• 56:12
  Daniel Moore: I promise it will change your outlook on your life for an eternity.
• 56:18
  Daniel Moore: Well, I hope that you guys have enjoyed these episodes.
• 56:20
  Daniel Moore: Maybe you like the Bible and enjoyed a little bit more.
• 56:23
  Daniel Moore: As you crack open the covers, please check out Nate's podcast Something to Gnaw On and check out his crash course through the Bible that he's been doing and he's continuing to do at this point.
• 56:34
  Daniel Moore: I think that you'll find it very enlightening and you'll find that reading the Bible isn't boring.
• 56:39
  Daniel Moore: It is actually an essential part of our life and it's a very exciting book to read and it will definitely change your life.
• 56:48
  Daniel Moore: Well, next week we'll be back with another episode.
• 56:51
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• 56:58
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• 57:04
  Daniel Moore: And until next week, don't forget that God's word never fails us.
• 57:08
  Daniel Moore: God's word has stood the test of time and, through Jesus' death on the cross, he has connected the gap You've been listening to Connecting the Gap podcast.
• 57:17
  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore, the host for this podcast, and I personally thank you for listening each week.
• 57:22
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• 57:25
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• 57:34
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• 57:41
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• 57:46
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• 58:01
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