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Full Show Podcast: 09 December 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issue, the Interviews US and the Inside. Andrew Dickens
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  Speaker 1: on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
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  Speaker 2: Morning to you and welcome to the program. It is
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  Speaker 2: the ninth of December. It's Monday. I'm Andrew Dickens in
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  Speaker 2: for Ryan Bridge, who will be on air later today.
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  Speaker 2: You wait, you'll find out on the program today the
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  Speaker 2: fall of Asad and the so called liberation of Syria.
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  Speaker 2: Lean Goldsmith from Otaga University joins us just before six.
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  Speaker 2: Did Tom Blundell save a spot in the Black Caps
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  Speaker 2: with yesterday's ton and did Liam Lawson do enough? Elliott
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  Speaker 2: Smith on Sport shortly, Gavin Gray from the UK's A
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  Speaker 2: vicious storm bears down and the Greens have released their
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  Speaker 2: admissions plans as Steve Abel from the party joins me
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  Speaker 2: very very shortly. You can text me ninety two ninety two.
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  Speaker 2: You can email Dickens at News Talks here b dot
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  Speaker 2: co dot m zaire. Good morning to you and welcome
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  Speaker 2: to your Monday. So the big story of the President's
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  Speaker 2: palace in Damascus has been stormed by rebel troops as
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  Speaker 2: Basha al Asad flees the country. The situation in.
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  Speaker 3: The last twenty four hours has moved so rapidly as
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  Speaker 3: the rebels advanced both from Drai in the south and
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  Speaker 3: from Homps in the north to close in on the capitol.
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  Speaker 3: And it's very clear that the Syrian army had no
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  Speaker 3: stomach for this fight. They'd defected, they had surrendered, they retreated.
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  Speaker 2: They got the hell out of had dodge, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll have more in the situation in Syria. Just
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  Speaker 2: after five thirty, just before the six Scott News, New
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  Speaker 2: York police have released new photos of the suspected gunmen
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  Speaker 2: who killed United Healthcare chief executive Brian Thompson. No, they
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  Speaker 2: haven't found him yet. It shows the man in the
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  Speaker 2: back of a taxi wearing a hoodie and a face mask.
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  Speaker 2: The FBI is now offering a eighty five thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: reward for information leading to his Arrests to Korea and
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  Speaker 2: public anger and protests have followed the failed vote to
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  Speaker 2: impeach South Korea's president, and after aote martial law in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the night the other day, the ruling
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  Speaker 2: party leader says the president, however, will be suspended.
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  Speaker 3: The People Power Party will pursue an orderly departure of
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  Speaker 3: the presidents in order to minimize confusion for the people.
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  Speaker 4: Ah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Unfortunately, only one hundred and ninety five members of
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  Speaker 2: the Parliament attended the vote, and that was five less
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  Speaker 2: than was required. And meanwhile, in Paris for the opening
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  Speaker 2: of the Notre Dame, Vladimir Zelonsky has been talking and
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  Speaker 2: in an a rare update, he's told reporters that forty
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  Speaker 2: three thousand soldiers have been killed in its war with Russia.
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  Speaker 2: That's forty three thousand. He claims that one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety eight thousand Russian troops had died remembered. Neither figure
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  Speaker 2: has had an independent confirmation and the last time Zelonsky
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  Speaker 2: gave such a death toll update was in February on.
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  Speaker 1: Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Dickens and Smith City Zeeland's furniture beds and applying store
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  Speaker 1: youth talks.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be so look at the Syrian opposition fighters have
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  Speaker 2: captured the capitol Damascus. They've declared victory on state television.
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  Speaker 2: Russia says Basha al Aasad has left the country and
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  Speaker 2: given orders for a peaceful transition. He's given up. His
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  Speaker 2: whereabouts are unknown, which is a good thing for him,
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  Speaker 2: because as soon as they're known, he won't be much longer.
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  Speaker 2: Opposition groups have declared a curfew where people are celebrating
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  Speaker 2: in the streets. The curfew runs from four o'clock in
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  Speaker 2: the afternoon until five in the morning. Opposition leader Abu
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  Speaker 2: Mohammad al Julani says all state institutions will remain under
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  Speaker 2: the supervision of Alissad's Prime minister until they're handed over officially.
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  Speaker 2: We've got crowds of refugees abroad celebrating Alissad's fall and
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  Speaker 2: planning to return home for the first time eight years.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to say, clever, old rebels. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: took a fifty year old dictatorship completely by surprise. It
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  Speaker 2: took the whole world by surprise. We were all looking elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: We're looking down in Lebanon, we're looking down in Gaza,
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  Speaker 2: and suddenly, what's happening up north? Oh, look at that.
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  Speaker 2: They just waltz their way through and they are now
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  Speaker 2: the new boss. And so the question for the world,
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  Speaker 2: to quote the band the Who, when we meet the
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  Speaker 2: new boss, will they be the same as the old boss.
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  Speaker 2: Is this rarely a liberation of Syria? Or you were
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  Speaker 2: out of the frying panel into the fire. Well, Doctor
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  Speaker 2: Leam Goldsmith is the Otago University Professor for Middle Eastern
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  Speaker 2: and Comparative Politics. That's a very long business card. It
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  Speaker 2: was a very long sentence his title. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: tin me just before six to talk about it now,
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Diggins, I gotta talk about question of the day
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  Speaker 2: for you. Are the boot camps are debacle after the
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  Speaker 2: absconding of two of their members, pretty full on absconding
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  Speaker 2: to be fair, when were talking car chases and machetes
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  Speaker 2: and balaclavas and cops and spikes, and I guess it
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  Speaker 2: shows just how criminal these youth offenders are. I think
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  Speaker 2: it also shows just how expensive and difficult it will
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  Speaker 2: be to get a positive result out of the process.
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  Speaker 2: It took generations to make these toe rags. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to take years to reform them. So my question for
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  Speaker 2: you is is it worth it? Do the boot camps work?
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  Speaker 2: Will they work? But then again, you got all these
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  Speaker 2: camps like Chippy and everybody shouting, oh you've got to
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  Speaker 2: abandon the boot camps. But what alternative Are they offering
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  Speaker 2: what we've always done before? So your thoughts you can
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  Speaker 2: text me ninety two ninety two. Steve Abel on the
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  Speaker 2: Green Plan is next here on news Talks THEREB.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the early edition with Smith City, New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Beds and Appliant Store.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks it B, it's good boarding to you. It
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  Speaker 2: is now fourteen minutes after five. The Greens have launched
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  Speaker 2: their alternative Missions Reduction Plan. It says the plan would
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  Speaker 2: more than double our current work to curb climate change.
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  Speaker 2: Agriculture will be part of the admissions trading scheme again,
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  Speaker 2: and a new Ministry of Green Works will be established
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  Speaker 2: to work on renewable infrastructure, and the plan will be
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  Speaker 2: key in their next pre election pitch to voters. And
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  Speaker 2: Steve Abel as a Green Party MP and our spokesperson,
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Good morning to you, Steve.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. Taught me quickly through the plan bullet points.
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  Speaker 5: Basically, in simple terms, I'd say it's a blueprint for
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  Speaker 5: how we decarbonize all the different sectors of society and
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  Speaker 5: the economy, and it takes on the important task of
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  Speaker 5: working out how we practically do a lot of that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: The current government plan is not on track to achieve
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  Speaker 5: our later targets and will struggle to meet the current ones.
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  Speaker 5: And this one will increase our reductions by five times
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  Speaker 5: what this government will achieve, not to mention the fact,
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  Speaker 5: basically because we'll properly invest in what is necessary to
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  Speaker 5: reduce our missions and think of it as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: I've read the report. Where do you get the number from?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's very low on great details, and it somehow
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  Speaker 2: you've said this will be five times better.
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  Speaker 5: Because if you model things like lowering the cap ponds
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  Speaker 5: that an ocean fertilizer for example, and ariculture promini dairy farming,
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  Speaker 5: you finally get quite substantial cuts and emissions. If you
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  Speaker 5: probably electrify our transport fleet, for example, and one of
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  Speaker 5: the big opportunities we have in designers. We have already
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  Speaker 5: a big renewable creen energy electricity system. If we grow
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  Speaker 5: the size of that electricity system, then use a lot
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  Speaker 5: of that additional energy for electrifying transport from trains to
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  Speaker 5: buses to cars, get huge cuts in the amount of
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  Speaker 5: emissions we're currently producing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's true. And you say, if you grow the
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  Speaker 2: electricity system. But reading the plan, the plan targets areas
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  Speaker 2: like justice and the treaty, improving the emission training scheme,
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  Speaker 2: and also sustainable land use, but there's very little. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: there's only really a sentence on how you're going to
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  Speaker 2: extend power generation. Surely the key to fighting pollution and
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  Speaker 2: climate change is green power generation, so why no detail
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  Speaker 2: on that?
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  Speaker 5: So we've done more substantial detail in the past. A
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  Speaker 5: twenty two election campaign, we had the Clean Power Payment,
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  Speaker 5: which was a massive investment in solarization, distribute solarization, which
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  Speaker 5: allowed households to lower their energy bills through investing in
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  Speaker 5: solar and batteries and put it in public money to
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  Speaker 5: support that. They happen up to a thirty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 5: gram for each household. And those sorts of substantial invested
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  Speaker 5: investments start shifting the nature of the grid. They start
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  Speaker 5: allowing us to actually get that overbuild of electricity that
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  Speaker 5: we need to do close to.
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  Speaker 2: Elect Absolutely, that's so the key because currently, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we need coal for ten percent of our power, and
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  Speaker 2: if you take the ten percent off, if you came
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  Speaker 2: into power and said, right, that's it, no more coal
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  Speaker 2: because coal's dirty and Yucky, that's ten percent. That's our economy.
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  Speaker 2: That's ten percent of the powering of our economy, and
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  Speaker 2: so you have to be able to replace that power
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  Speaker 2: or are you telling us are you telling us that
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  Speaker 2: if the Green's got into charge and did this, we
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  Speaker 2: would take a hit and have less power.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely not of its exactly opposite. And Genesis Energy, for example,
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  Speaker 5: who won the Hartly power station is said the future
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  Speaker 5: of that power source is biomass. We have this phenomenal
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  Speaker 5: resource in biomass, meaning the residue pine waste that we
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  Speaker 5: have in our current system which currently ends up washing
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  Speaker 5: down as slash into our rivers, that could be used
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  Speaker 5: in many industries that are observing that that could be
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  Speaker 5: used to be converted into woody bio mass that could
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  Speaker 5: be burned instead of coal. So those are the sorts
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  Speaker 5: of opportunities that we have that aren't being exploited currently,
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  Speaker 5: and we will reinvest the money that we get from
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  Speaker 5: the emissions trading scheme into supporting industry to make those decarbonization choices.
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  Speaker 2: Steve, thank you for joining us this morning. And hey,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Mery Christmas. It is now eighteen minutes
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  Speaker 2: after five. Text through is a pity the rebels didn't
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  Speaker 2: capture a side. Now you'll be hiding out in Russia.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, Jack, Thank you for your texts. Someone else
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  Speaker 2: is the name book Camp needs to be changed. Typical
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  Speaker 2: of Labor to sit back and complain, because, after all,
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  Speaker 2: what did they do for these kids? What has anybody
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  Speaker 2: done for these kids? Maybe these kids are proving to
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  Speaker 2: us that this is a big job. It's not oh,
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  Speaker 2: do a boot cap, that'll sort them out. It's a big,
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  Speaker 2: big job. As I said before, it's taken generations to
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  Speaker 2: create these kids. Do you think he can fix them
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  Speaker 2: just like that? Anyway? Lee goes on to say, if
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  Speaker 2: Labor gets away, we stop this effort to help some
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  Speaker 2: of these kids, and they just go back to the
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  Speaker 2: street and keep reoffending. And Lee makes a great point,
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  Speaker 2: these are not cute little boys. These are dangerous, unfeeling
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  Speaker 2: people and will just continue doing what they have done
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  Speaker 2: and what they do best. Ninety two ninety two is
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  Speaker 2: the text. Tom Blundell got a lot of stick before
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  Speaker 2: this test and then he went and did a ton
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about Tom Blundell and Liam Lawson in a
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  Speaker 2: moment with Elliot Smith the News.
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  Speaker 1: You need this Morning and the in depth analysis early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City New Zealand's furniture
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  Speaker 2: Be bye twenty one Elliott Smith. How are you?
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  Speaker 6: I'm good, Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: So two men with a lot of challenges in front
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  Speaker 2: of them. The first I'm going to talk about Tom
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  Speaker 2: Blundele because of course, if you remember last week, everyone's going,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's catching the ball, but he ain't hitting
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  Speaker 2: the ball, and he turns around and bit he's the
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  Speaker 2: only one who got a century.
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  Speaker 6: Well, he's the only one that got the century. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: how much do you take out of it? Though it
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  Speaker 6: was a game that was already lost. I suppose you've
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  Speaker 6: got to get the runs at some point, but there
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  Speaker 6: wasn't a lot of pressure necessarily the chasing. We were
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  Speaker 6: chasing five hundred and sixty seven to win the match
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  Speaker 6: and the game was gone, so there wasn't really a
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  Speaker 6: lot of pressure. I mean, perhaps internally felt a bit
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  Speaker 6: of pressure to retain this place in the team. But
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  Speaker 6: you know, I suppose you've got to get the runs
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  Speaker 6: when they're on off it and you suggested that would
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  Speaker 6: save his spot for the Third Test against England.
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  Speaker 2: I know what about Devin Conway though, I mean, well,
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  Speaker 2: I think, please, it's been a bad year.
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  Speaker 6: I feel sorry for him a little bit because he
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  Speaker 6: just looks out of him. He just, you know, he
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  Speaker 6: was so magnificent when he came in. He got runs
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  Speaker 6: for fun at a certain point, he got two hundred
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  Speaker 6: against England over in England, and he was developing into
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  Speaker 6: one of the best openers in the world at a
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  Speaker 6: certain point in time. But now I just can't buy
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  Speaker 6: looks completely shot of confidence. And this player that you know,
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  Speaker 6: we were so excited to have a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 6: I think it would be cruel to put them in
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  Speaker 6: the team for him, which and I think they should
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  Speaker 6: make a change, put Will Young or someone else in
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  Speaker 6: the top because we're really you know, and there's so
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  Speaker 6: little Test cricket next year for the black Caps. He's
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  Speaker 6: got four scheduled, it'll probably end up being seven in
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  Speaker 6: the end. But I think it is time to look
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  Speaker 6: at other options. And you know this, you can't paper
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  Speaker 6: over cracks with one hundred from Blundle papers over that
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  Speaker 6: crack and allows them to continue combat at the top.
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  Speaker 6: I think there's time for some serious change at the top.
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  Speaker 6: Of the black Caps order.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well I was so looking forward to the series.
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  Speaker 6: So that three nil whitewash in India, which did really
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  Speaker 6: come out of nowhere because the black Cap said, to
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  Speaker 6: be honest, been on a downwards trajectory for a couple
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  Speaker 6: of years. That that pete massive peak out of nowhere
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  Speaker 6: to go on an Indie your win three nil, but
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  Speaker 6: then to come back to New Zealand your own conditions
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  Speaker 6: and just be completely outplayed by England comprehensively, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the test inside over inside the three days real disappointment.
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  Speaker 2: Cricket tragics as well, because you watch the New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: tiest and then immediately after this the day night at Adelaide,
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  Speaker 2: and then I watched that last night and watched India fail.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe we went so good. India is just really
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  Speaker 2: bad at the moment.
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  Speaker 6: But they just went out and beat Australia that the
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  Speaker 6: previous week as well, and we're won up in the
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  Speaker 6: series and smoked them.
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  Speaker 2: So another fellow fighting for his position as Liam Lawson,
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  Speaker 2: did he do enough at other duty?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I didn't finish, so I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 6: good start. Necessarily hit some pedishues early on engine parted
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  Speaker 6: out on the final lap of the race as well,
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  Speaker 6: was probably going to finish about sixteenth. In the end,
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  Speaker 6: this is going to be fascinating decision. It's going to
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  Speaker 6: come to a head in the coming days. In the
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  Speaker 6: next forty eight seventy two hours, we're going to know
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  Speaker 6: where Lee Lawson sits, because that's the end of his
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  Speaker 6: current deal contract with his team, and there's all sorts
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  Speaker 6: of machinations around where he fits in next year. Hasn't
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  Speaker 6: set the world on fire necessarily, but they've often viewed
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  Speaker 6: him as a long term project at that team, haven't they.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they've been with him for a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: They've invested a lot of money. They want someone to
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  Speaker 2: support Max Vstappan. I need someone who can actually, you know,
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  Speaker 2: walk the walk, and he can walk it. I mean
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  Speaker 2: he drives with his elbows out, he doesn't take a
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  Speaker 2: backward step. Ferlando Alonso right at the very beginning, gave
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  Speaker 2: him a bit of addressing down. He dressed him right back.
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  Speaker 4: You know. It's right.
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  Speaker 2: So he's got the attitude, and he's got the ability,
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  Speaker 2: and he is young, and they've spent the money and
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  Speaker 2: I think perhaps believing that that that Cola Pinto might
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  Speaker 2: come in has been has been or somebody else has
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  Speaker 2: been premature. I think I think he's got it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it depends how much they stock they put
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  Speaker 6: in those that pack of sex races that he's done now,
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  Speaker 6: or whether it's that long term project. Now, we've seen
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  Speaker 6: enough from you over the last four or five years
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  Speaker 6: in our system to go now you're our guy for
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  Speaker 6: twenty twenty five. Not on the basis of what he's done,
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  Speaker 6: you know, this morning in Abadhabi, last week, et cetera,
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  Speaker 6: et cetera. I think that long term project probably hands
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  Speaker 6: him and better sted than some of the other competing drivers.
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  Speaker 2: Configued stuff Elliott lovely to see you early in the
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  Speaker 2: morning and Marry christ Is to you as well.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on Ironart Radio, How
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  Speaker 4: At Me.
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  Speaker 2: This News Talks b five twenty seven. I'mandrew Dickens's cabinet
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  Speaker 2: today and the promise this week is that we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get a ferry plan. Apparently there might be an
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  Speaker 2: announcement on Wednesday. So it's been a year since Nicola
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  Speaker 2: Willis pulled the plug on the Kiwi Rail's ferry plan
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't because the fairies were so expensive. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: the Fairies were a really good deal. It was because
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  Speaker 2: of the cost of the port side developments. And I
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  Speaker 2: think this is something that gets lost in the whole
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  Speaker 2: debate when we talk about, Oh, it's the big chips,
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  Speaker 2: it's the big ships. No, the ships weren't the problem. Really,
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  Speaker 2: the misconception is that the cost was blowing out because
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  Speaker 2: the Fairies were bigger than our previous fleet. So the
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  Speaker 2: biggest factor in the cost blowout was the relocation and
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  Speaker 2: the rebuilding of both the Kiwi Rail and Blue Bridge
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  Speaker 2: ferries to get them out of an earthquake zone. There
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  Speaker 2: was also the need for the new port to have
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  Speaker 2: considerable earthquake strengthening. Look where the Wellington port is and
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  Speaker 2: how far away it is from the main fault line
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  Speaker 2: up Tenakorey Street, right, you need to earthquake strengthen this.
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  Speaker 2: Our ports at the moment fall down and they did
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  Speaker 2: last what time during a kaikura, So there's the need
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  Speaker 2: for a considerable earthquake strengthening. Kiwi Rail also wanted a
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  Speaker 2: gold plated faery terminal which would last long term, so
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: that you walk into it and it's like wow, This
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: is amazing, that's what they wanted. And then finally, on
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: top of that, the ports needed to be a bit longer.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: So from what I've heard so far, it seems as
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: though the government will pick up some second hand boats
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: which actually had more life after them than before them.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: But that's what happens when you pick up a second
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: hand boat. But that's not really an issue unless, of course,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: they start falling apart as soon as we get them.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: So when we look at this plan that comes out
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: this week, we need to be looking at the port
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: rather than the boats. Will it be relocated, will it
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: be strong enough to bear up to the inevitable earthquake,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: will the terminal be comfy or will the terminal be
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a chili shed? And how much do you want to
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: spend on this? Kiwi Rail was arrogant thinking that the
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: government would provide them with their billions on the essay,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: so a blank check. But so the government wasn't long
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to say tyhoe. But the government now has to prove
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: that their plan is not just a second hand option
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: that will continue to provide headaches in the years to
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: come because the indisputable factors we are a country that's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: mostly spread over two islands with twenty six miles of
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: very treacherous water between them, and so the infrastructure that
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: connects the two of us together is absolutely one hundred
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: percent critical. So let's see what this plan is coming
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: out on Wednesday. We hope now still to come with
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: right around the country with our reporters everywhere. We're going
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: to look at the serious situation with a fealla from
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Otago University. My name is Andrew Dickens and for Ryan Bridge,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Verry Christmas.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Beds and Appliant Store. You talk sippy.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Here's a man who's on holiday after making an awful
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: lot of money. Chris Martin Cold Play. His daughter was
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: in the DEBUTMP Ball of New York the other week,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and Crystal looked very fine, all dressed up in a suit.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: He danced with his daughter, who's very beautiful, just like
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: her mother. Gwyneth Moses. The brother was there too, anyway,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Still to come on the program today, Syria meets the
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: new boss. Are they going to be any better than
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the old bus? We're going to find out from Liam
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Goldsmith Gavin Gray from the UK very shortly, big storm
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: bearing down on the UK and we're runing around New
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Zealand at a second. The boot camps people will be
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: talking about this. By the way, Heathers doing the Breakfast
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: show today and we were talking about this before we
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: came into the show. As Graham writes to me, why
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: are you focusing on the two toe rags from the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: boot camp? Why don't you look at the successful outcomes?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: This is a typical Kiwi knocking machine problem, has Graham.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: This is also fresh that all we have is to failure.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: We don't have two successes yet because it takes a
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: while to actually turn these people around. And I've been
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: saying this all morning. It takes a while to turn
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: these people around. It's going to be expensive. Ah Ruth
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: writes Andrew. Chloe and Chippy should be don't you love
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: New Zealand? It's so casual. Chloe and Chippy should be
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: ashamed of themselves with their public pronouncements on the condemnation
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: of the kids from the boot camps. These kids literally
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: have no one in their corner giving them hope that
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: they can change. And now we even have people who
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: are meant to be leaders in our community. Piling in
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: change for these kids is very hard to make it against
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the background of massive dysfunction. It will take time, It
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: will take people who keep on believing in their ability
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to change. There's been no time yet. But on the money.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Just one other text. If we could only have the
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: kind of funding that these kids are getting with the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: boot camps in our schools because we need wrap around
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: services for all our kids with fetal alcohol syndrome, dix slexia, trauma,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: meth dependent parents, speech delays, ADHD autism. Instead, next year
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: classes will be bigger with no funding for teacher assistance.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So it's where you get the best bang for your buck.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: It is twenty one to six around the country. Callum
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Proctor from Dunedin. Helle Callum morning Andrew. There's a dneed
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and bar drop Kicks. It's being discussed in council.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: Why well, the District Licensing Committee is actually meeting to
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: discuss its new unlicensed application.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Look.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Dropkicks is the former Captain Cook Hotel, the famous soul
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: Dnedin pub and its application has in fact been opposed
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: by a couple of groups, one the Students for Sensible
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: Drug policy or to Porty, also the father of deceased
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: university student here Sophia Christani, that opposition all stems from
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: the venue actually actively promoting itself to students before it
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: had even had approval. The owners in their application, they
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: say their vision is to create a space where music
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: lovers and the community can come together safely.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: When you have a bar that had a name as
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: good and as legendary as Captain Cook, why would you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: want to change it to a name like Dropkicks. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: don't know how's your weather?
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: Fine but isolated? Shellers a fresh westerly today, the high twenty.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: And I thank you so Now to Christian Jamie Cunningham.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Good morning, morning. It's hot and there are tougher fire
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: restrictions coming.
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: Yes well obviously. Firefighters have been battling a nine hundred
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: and eighty hectar wildfire in the Southern Alp since Thursday morning,
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: with a smaller blaze cropping up near Kerwee over the weekend.
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: Now last night a number of West Melton residents were
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: evacuated due to a larger vegetation fire growing in the
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: really strong winds. Four helicopters are due in the air
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: at first light, which will give fire crews a more
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: accurate picture of the blazer's size. District Commanded Dave Stackhouse
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: sees the monitoring weather stations and reviewing the region's fire
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: status today. He sees both Canterbury and South Canterbury's restrictions
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: will probably increase to require permits.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And is there rain today in that irony or not?
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: No, it's looking like a nice say it's fine with
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: northwesterlies which will ease this evening in a high of
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: twenty five.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to will until we go. Max Toll, Hello,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: good morning. We've got the decision on the new fairies
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well you said it all about ten minutes ago.
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: This has been something of a saga for the Capital.
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: Labor signed up to what became a very expensive deal
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: at least in National's eyes, to build new fairies and
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: ports in government. National pretty quickly abandoning that, but with
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: the Intero Island of Fleet getting very old and prone
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: to glitches, National but under pressure for some time to
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: reveal what they're going to do instead, and that decision
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: expected this week by Wednesday. It may even come sooner.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: While we are going to get new fairies, we believe
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: it's just a question of how rail compatible they'll be.
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: It would be possible to run these boats into the ground.
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: No pun intended for the rest of the decade, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: all the advice is for the checkbook to come out.
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: Rail compatible essentially means fairies are able to carry railway vehicle,
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: which in turn would mean a fewer trucks on the
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: road more a few lesser freight costs. That will be
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: the big thing to look out for this week.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: That's the theory, Max. The reality is often quite different,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and they won't be new theories, they'll be secondhand ferries.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But there we go. How's Shelly. How's your weather today?
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: New second hand, fairly rang, early rain, severe winds twenty
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: one the high Central.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much and thank you for a great test.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Not okay, Niva Rittamano joins us now Hella Neva, Good morning, Andrew.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Police have arrested five people. And these are these dirt
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: bikers that are all the range these days.
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: It's right now. Look yesterday up to one hundred rute bikers.
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: Now they were spotted. They were driving dangerously across southeast Auckland.
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: And you're quite right. What we do know is that
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: police have arrested five so far. So now this group,
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: they were seen running red lights, riding on the wrong
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: side of the road, breaking the speed limit, and the
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: list goes on. A witness told our newsroom that many
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: of the riders they were doing wheel stands. Then they
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: were also weaving across two lanes of the Waipoona Bridge.
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: So yeah, Lisa are expecting, they're on the case. They're
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: on the case, and they're expecting to make further arrest
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: on this whole incident.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: For those people who don't know about aucands dirt bikes,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: these are provided by the gangs to get the kids
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: into motorbikes and then of course later when they grow up,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: they move into the Harley Davidson's I've been driving on
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the Southern Motorway and seeing a crowd of thirty seeing them.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've seen thirty kids on dirt bikes going
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the wrong way down the motorway and then going the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: wrong way up and off. Ram was it recently?
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Did you say?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: This is this is last summer?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Flipping there, It's amazing. You know, they are a scourge.
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: But Skurge Skoirge on society, how's Orkin's weather isolated showers
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: turning to rain this afternoon, possibly heavy easing late evening.
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: Twenty threes are high here in Auckland.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So we're talking all about the weather, and the weather's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: bad in the UK. In fact, people are being told
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to stay at home. Gavin Gray from the UK with
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the details.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It's into six. Kevin Great from the UK, goobording to you.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Oh he's on the phone. Excuse me, I'll just addswer
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the phone.
• 25:07
  Speaker 11: Hello, Gvin Hiler Andrew Hi.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Mate.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So every the week in UK authority said stay at home.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: So how because the weather was going to be so bad?
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: So was it so bad? And did everyone stay at home?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: I know not everyone did, of course, people can't cancel
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: the travel plans. Travel was in absolute chaos, as you
• 25:25
  Speaker 11: can imagine. This was the fourth name storm that the winter.
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: It has claimed that we know at least two lives.
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: Some gusts up to almost one hundred miles an hour,
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: so you're looking one hundred and fifty kilometers an hour
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: were recorded on Saturday and then again early Sunday morning.
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: The deaths were in the northwest of England in Lancashire,
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: when a tree fell onto a vehicle and a man
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: in his late forties died. There was another death in
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: the West Midlands, same thing, a separate into of somebody
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: driving and a tree falling on them. The gusts have
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: slightly died down. But the problem now is this storm
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: with the strong winds was a company a lot of rain,
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: and indeed the previous named storm had only just left
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: the country, so the soil is really really soggy already,
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: and I'm afraid now there is a big danger of flooding.
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: There are some fifty four flood warnings for riverside communities
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: in England alone, and that means that flooding is likely.
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: And in Wales where I'm talking to you from this morning,
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: the ground really really wet. There are lots of tree
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: surgeons out trying to keep the roads open. As I said,
• 26:29
  Speaker 11: the winds have died down. The big, big risk now
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: is all the water that is collecting and going down
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: into the river.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And indeed there's a change. Really. I never used to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: remember England flooding and now you do.
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, And you know, more development of course, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: more people and therefore a bigger demand on the services
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: and also fewer places for the water to seek down
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: into the soil.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Netherlands where there was
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: an explosion at a block of flats. So tell me
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: about that story.
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: Yeah, was in the Hague and at least five people
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: have died four others have been injured. Now, this was
• 27:06
  Speaker 11: an explosion of a block of flats. It's a three
• 27:09
  Speaker 11: story building and it is said that there were up
• 27:13
  Speaker 11: to twenty people in the flats at the time. That
• 27:16
  Speaker 11: would mean therefore that eleven or more are missing, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: that's the big concern. There is so much debris around
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: the place, Andrew that the big crane has been brought
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: in to try and get lift off these huge blocks.
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: But there is a big concern this death toll will
• 27:31
  Speaker 11: increase significantly. Now at the moment, the authorities are not
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: saying what they believe to be the cause. However, one
• 27:38
  Speaker 11: eyewitness describes a car driving off at very high speed
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: shortly before the explosion. That that is an unconfirmed report.
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: But yeah, we believe there to be at least five
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: flats that have been completely destroyed in this explosion, which
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: has left a lot of debry for the authorities to
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: try to get through. But I'm afraid more and more
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: this is proving and I think not to be a
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: rescue operation. If there are more bodies under there, this
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: is proven to be a recovery operation.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Kevin Great from the UK, I thank you so much.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: It is eleven to six. Andrew Dicks, Well, it's a
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: route the sad Assad families. Decades long rain in Syria
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: came to an abrupt end over the weekend when rebel
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: forces captured Damascus. It was a stunning lightning strike route
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: right across the country. Russian officials have said that Alasade
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: has fled the country. They've called for a peaceful transition
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: of power. So to talk about this, we are now
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: joined by doctor Leon Goldsmith, who works at the Ottaga
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: University professor for Middle Eastern and Comparative Politics. Welcome to
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the program, Leon.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Good morning.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, it seems pretty definitive. It's happened, hasn't it. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: was it a surprise?
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it was. I think it was a
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: bit of a shark in terms of just how hollow
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: this regime was after like fifty years of iron forested
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: rule in the heart of the Middle East. I thinks
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: are in a state of euphoria as of last night,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: that they can't quite believe that that this regime was gone.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: It's quite quite a cataclysmic its yes, it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Is, and it's almost like an alisad who fought against
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: us for so long and so hard, then took some
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: time off and just lost the will.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I think what's happened is over in the last
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: four years, he's actually lost his main support base of
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: loyalists within the country, and I think there was a
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: growing sense that what they had fought for there was
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: no victory vivid and for all of the sacrifices that
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: had supporters had made, and they were suffering more than
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: ever under his rule, and he didn't seem to care.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: The other thing, of course, is that his major allies
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that were helping to fund him are helping to weaponize him.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Of course, Russia and Iran, they've got their own problems
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and so they he was a bit abandoned.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he was extremely vulnerable and exposed in terms
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: of the Russian support that the Russians have been there
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: since the fifties, and Iran has been a major batter
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: of the regime since the eighties. So this is a
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: fundamental change of the regional order as well, in terms
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: of the main sort of power balance in the region
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: as well. It's going to be a lot of change.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Now here's the thing. Meet the new boss.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Is it the same as the old boss? What do
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: we know about the rebel forces? Is actually a liberation?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Are these guys good guys?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah? And I said this is this is the once
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: the euphoria in itial euphorias sort of dies down in
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the business of trying to see what a new Syria
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: is going to look like. But I think we have
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: to understand that jelani Or is going by his birth
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: name now Athland Sharh. He's not isis Kaida anymore. In fact,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I'll see a lot of what he's doing has been
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: a sort of antithetical to their extreme ast failures. But
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: at the same time, he is not someone that most
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Syrians actually, despite the fact that the appreciate what's happened
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: in terms of the liberation of the country, would want
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: to see as kind of someone adopting a powerful position.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I think what you're going to see is a much
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: broader effort to try and coordinate an inclusive government, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I think that's what we're seeing in the early stages.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: We're seeing a very orderly transition. We're seeing a lot
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: of the existing institutions remaining in place. The promise that
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Javali Sad has gone. We don't know exactly where he's gone.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: There's rumors that he may even be have died in
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: a plane crash or something like that. But I think
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: that we shouldn't jump to conclusions. That's what I'm saying.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: This is not This is not the same as Culliband
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: takeover in Afghanistan, for example.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that's good. Could it's not going to
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: be as bad as we might imagine, But then again
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it might not be as good as that we might hope.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why I well think it's very important to
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: keep in mind. It wasn't just HTS liberated Syria over
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: the last eleven days, so free Cerian army element from
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: the from the south and from the from the east,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: also just ordinary Syrians rising up on their towns and villages,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: overthrowing the local Bartist forces, and it's a it's a
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: much broader coalition general Syrian uprising and overthrowing off of
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: this regime.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Good stuff, Leon Goldsworth, I thank you for your time today.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Diggins on early edition
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: with slic City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: store youth talks.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It'd be so, Luke writes, the terrorist is a trustworthy one, right,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: how many terrorists do you ever know?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: That? Ever?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Trustworthy? There we go and Dale rights, you do know
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: that it's been reported that de Sard's plan is crashed.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: He is dead. Well, no, it's been reported, but that
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean it actually happened. Yes, there are reports
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that might have crashed. We'll find out. So that's because
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it disappeared off the radar, isn't it that's true? But
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  Speaker 2: did it crash, We'll find it. Don't show me his head,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Hey the duper See Alan is doing the breakfast, Say
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  Speaker 2: good morning.
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be talking Syria.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, we're going to talk about Syria because I mean, look,
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: everybody's happy to see the back of a sad right obviously,
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  Speaker 12: because he's not a particularly cool dude. But the question,
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  Speaker 12: of course is who comes in and replaces him. And
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  Speaker 12: it's not clear that these lot, this lot is going
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: to be that great either because hts. I don't know
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  Speaker 12: if you're aware of it, but they actually have originally
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: ties with ISIS.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, so that that Jilaney. We just had a fellow
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: on who said, Jelaney claims he's not ISIS anymore. I said,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: can you just pick and choose?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Cool, because you.
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  Speaker 12: Just saw It's one of those things you sort of
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: dip in and out of in your life. You know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: a bit ISIS, but about out of ISIS again.
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  Speaker 2: Camps those absconders really absconded with, you know, machetes and
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: balaclavas and then you can't chase them and all that
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: sort of thing. And now half the world is going
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: got to stop the boot camps. The other half is saying,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: got to wait to see, Yeah, what do you reckon?
• 33:47
  Speaker 12: Well, I'm a little bit on the side of actually,
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  Speaker 12: why are we shutting the boot camps? Because these toe
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: rags have behaved exactly like we thought that they would behave.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, it's not the boot camps that made them
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  Speaker 12: jump into the car with each other and a couple
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  Speaker 12: of other dudes, grab a machete and then to take off.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: So who's going to talk to about this?
• 34:03
  Speaker 12: Fellow Riley now full O'Riley, former Boss of Business New Zealand,
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  Speaker 12: was actually involved with the last iteration of the boot
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  Speaker 12: camps that John Key had underway, so he will have
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: a view of how it works on whether it's actually.
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  Speaker 4: Successful or not.
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  Speaker 2: Heather Gat You're your day out. I will, oh will,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be back again tomorrow, see you tomorrow, see you all.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you to Leo.
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