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The Family That Flies Together · Mom Wars

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  Speaker 1: From the front lines of the Mom Wars. Here's Bethany
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  Speaker 1: Mandel and Kara Kennedy.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to another episode of The mom Wars.
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  Speaker 2: I am the American host, Bethany Mandel. I am a
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  Speaker 2: freelance writer for The New York Post, The Washington Examiner
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  Speaker 2: and elsewhere, and also for your favorite publication, the Mom
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  Speaker 2: Wars Substack. Please don't forget to subscribe. And I am
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  Speaker 2: joined by.
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  Speaker 3: Carl Kennedy and I am the royal correspondent at Thatspactated magazine. Wait,
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  Speaker 3: speaking of like journalism, this isn't planned to look about.
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  Speaker 3: But have you been to any White House correspondent?
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  Speaker 2: No? And I felt very uncool. Actually, I so I've
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  Speaker 2: had a little bit of fomo the last week and
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  Speaker 2: a half because everyone I knew was posting pictures of
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  Speaker 2: the Easter egg roll, which like, fine, I'm Jewish Passover anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so like whatever. But yeah, I still had fomo because
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  Speaker 2: everyone I knew was at the Easter egg roll, and
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  Speaker 2: then everyone was at the sub stack White House Correspondence thing,
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  Speaker 2: and my I think our goal for next year is
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  Speaker 2: to make our sub stack so big that they can't
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  Speaker 2: not invite us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're going to be the main event. I
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  Speaker 3: went to one party and I think I probably made
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  Speaker 3: everyone's sake because I thought I had food. I think
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  Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to anybody that I.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the British Embassy, I saw these pictures.
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  Speaker 3: You looked at that. Thank you. It was the Daily
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  Speaker 3: Mail party, which was wild, helped by the Brushs's ambassador,
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  Speaker 3: who is amazing. He is so cool. He just flew
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  Speaker 3: his dog over from Britain and his dog is just
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  Speaker 3: like walking around. Then Ambassadi asid, Yes, so I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure I got everybody's sick.
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  Speaker 2: So oops, don't admit that.
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  Speaker 3: What I was. I thought it was food poison because
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  Speaker 3: we got this bigger on a dive bar, which was
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  Speaker 3: a mistake. I mean it was a terrible bigger anyway,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't think it got a sank. And then
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  Speaker 3: one of our names Texas, and we're like, sorry, we've
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  Speaker 3: got narvirus.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you texted me about activated charcole, didn't you?
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  Speaker 3: The last time I was sake, But every time we're
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  Speaker 3: sick now we're like, oh my god, why didn't we
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  Speaker 3: get them?
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  Speaker 2: So after we're done, okay, let me just this is
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  Speaker 2: also not planned. Let me just put out a plug
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  Speaker 2: right now for activated charcoal. I over the winter, I
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  Speaker 2: tweeted about it and I made because I send out
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  Speaker 2: an affiliate link. I'm not I'm not a dumb dumb
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  Speaker 2: and I made six hundred dollars on Amazon affiliate links.
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  Speaker 3: How do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: So you sign up for an affiliate code and anytime
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  Speaker 2: you tweet or like, send around or post whatever a
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  Speaker 2: link crazy, you get a percentage of this from your
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  Speaker 2: Amazon associates. So I use my Amazon and I'm not obviously,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not becoming like a big charcoal like booster for
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  Speaker 2: my you know, thirty's whatever I get from it. But
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  Speaker 2: so here's the thing. So activated charcoal, it's it's like peptipysmal.
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  Speaker 2: It's charcoal in a pill. Adults take two pills, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: as many times as you want, like go crazy, like three, four, five,
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  Speaker 2: six times, it doesn't matter. It's just charcoal. Kids take
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  Speaker 2: one and if obviously, if you're old enough, you can
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  Speaker 2: just swallow it. But if not, we open it in
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  Speaker 2: a cup and we mix it with liquid IV. So
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  Speaker 2: it tastes good. My kids love it and it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: It's it works. I would say like eighty percent of
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  Speaker 2: the time preventing the spread, if not ninety percent of
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 3: Spread.
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  Speaker 2: And so whenever anyone in our house pukes, everyone does
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  Speaker 2: a round of it, and depending on how vie, we
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  Speaker 2: might even do a second round. And then we use
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  Speaker 2: it also to stop and that's like seventy five percent
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  Speaker 2: stopping it. But like I brought it. We all went
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  Speaker 2: to Puerto Rico in November, like the week before Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 2: We got a really cheap ticket because who flies the
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  Speaker 2: week before Thanksgiving? Homeschoolers do. And I woke up on
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  Speaker 2: Shabbat violently ill, and I told Seth, and we're like,
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  Speaker 2: we're all eating and drinking all the same things. And
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  Speaker 2: I had accidentally left our medicine bag in the car,
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  Speaker 2: and I told Seth. I was like, I don't care
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  Speaker 2: if it's Shabbat, go open the door. This is life
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  Speaker 2: or death. And so he brought one of our kids
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  Speaker 2: with him, and he had the kid open the door.
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  Speaker 2: He brought it to me and I took it. It
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  Speaker 2: immediately stopped my puke, and everyone did a round of it,
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  Speaker 2: and no one else got sick. And like we were
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  Speaker 2: all eating and drinking the same thing. Like some I
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  Speaker 2: got something and it didn't spread and it stopped me
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  Speaker 2: from being sick.
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  Speaker 3: So that's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I should buy it as soon as we're done
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  Speaker 2: by it and have it on hand. Next time, I'll.
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  Speaker 3: Buy it on your affiliate link.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You also need to tell my husband. This is also no,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not and I'm sorry everything. Just like a cat jack.
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  Speaker 3: You need to tell my husband that you actually got
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  Speaker 3: flight get flights the cheap because he just flashed out,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't believe you about the Hawaii flight. He was like,
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  Speaker 3: he was like, I just don't believe it. I just
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  Speaker 3: don't believe that's true.
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  Speaker 2: So I signed up for this thing called Going again.
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  Speaker 2: I can post the link. You know, we can put
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  Speaker 2: it in the show notes. I'll put my activity charcoal
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  Speaker 2: link and my Going subscription in the show notes. So
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  Speaker 2: I signed up for Going And what it is is
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  Speaker 2: it used to be called Scott's Cheap Flights and then
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  Speaker 2: they switched it to Going. And so you set your
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  Speaker 2: you set your home airport and then they email you
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  Speaker 2: deals for for your home airport. So let me just
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  Speaker 2: read off. Let me just read off a couple of
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  Speaker 2: like the most recent examples from the DC area from
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  Speaker 2: the last few days summer in Europe from four seventy
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  Speaker 2: seven to five eighty five. Barcelona for five hundred either
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  Speaker 2: in September or between November and March. Portugal for the
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  Speaker 2: same amount Europe a couple days ago, between three fifty
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  Speaker 2: four and four seventy three August in March. Yeah, Scandinavia
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  Speaker 2: for four seventy one, came In Islands for three fifty two,
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  Speaker 2: Brazil for five seventy five, Ireland for four four twenty nine,
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  Speaker 2: London for five twenty five, Faroe Islands for three eighty two.
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  Speaker 2: That one was tempting.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty cold. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I am going to London with my five children.
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  Speaker 2: I'm leaving one behind with Seth. I know my limits,
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  Speaker 2: and I got all of those seats for under two
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars six incredible.
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  Speaker 3: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: And so that that Puerto Rico flight was also under
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  Speaker 2: two thousand dollars for all eight of us.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, we've paid a fifteen hundred per person.
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  Speaker 3: It's in vain. We're too loyal. We're too loyal to
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  Speaker 3: our one airline. Do you have any worries or excitement
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  Speaker 3: about the London trip.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty nervous about so my older three will be great.
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  Speaker 2: We felt pretty bad about leaving my fourth behind last time,
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  Speaker 2: but she just wasn't ready and trust be told, she's
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  Speaker 2: not ready again. She's still not ready, and I'm pretty nervous.
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  Speaker 2: She likes to get lost in historic places, and all
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  Speaker 2: we're doing is going to historic places. We've gotten her
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  Speaker 2: loss at Ellis Island, Colonial Williamsburg, Mount Vernon. Mount Vernon
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  Speaker 2: was my fault. I forgot about her. Yeah, I left
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  Speaker 2: her behind, so I'm pretty nervous. I bought these I
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  Speaker 2: bought these pins that you can put an air tag in,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna pin her. I'm gonna pin her shirt
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  Speaker 2: or like her pants or something. And we do the
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  Speaker 2: same with my three year old. Also, my three year
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  Speaker 2: old I'm not nervous about, but it's just it's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also nervous that I did my whole itinery and
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  Speaker 2: I forgot like buy food, so I'm gonna have to,
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  Speaker 2: like because we keep kosher and so normally, like when
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  Speaker 2: we travel here, I'll just get like an Instacart order
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  Speaker 2: and have it like where I am is? Does that
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  Speaker 2: exist in London? Instacart?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you can, Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's the
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  Speaker 3: same one, but you can do it like a delivery.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh delivery, Yeah yeah, I saw that. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: I need to do that for where we're staying, for
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  Speaker 2: like breakfast foods and lunch foods and stuff. So that
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  Speaker 2: that I think I'm gonna do like the day we land,
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  Speaker 2: because we're landing early in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: So have you a at this? Some all the dogs
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  Speaker 3: do is that don't keep poshing it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there, I know. I know some people
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  Speaker 2: who will eat dairy out, Like they won't eat meat out,
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  Speaker 2: they won't eat non kosher meat, but they'll eat non
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  Speaker 2: kosher dairy out. We're gonna probably do that a little
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  Speaker 2: bit on this trip, not a ton, because my oldest
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  Speaker 2: kid is like very strict.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, she's she like yeah, but I think we
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  Speaker 5: might do There's we're going to a We're going to
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  Speaker 5: a castle one night that's like pretty far out of London.
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  Speaker 2: It's like an hour and a half outside, and I
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  Speaker 2: think they have like vegetarian vegan options in their cafe,
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  Speaker 2: and I think we're going to do that that night,
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  Speaker 2: but like it might just be peanut butter sandwiches.
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  Speaker 3: That was great. Your kids was locked then, like oh no,
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  Speaker 3: we can't find kosher food.
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  Speaker 2: Sanwiches. So I we're staying. We're staying in a pretty
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  Speaker 2: Jewish area, so I know that like there will be
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  Speaker 2: a lot of restaurants. There is a supermarket, like not
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  Speaker 2: too far from where we're saying, so that will be easy.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of getting like having all the
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  Speaker 2: kids be jet lagged and having to go grocery shopping.
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  Speaker 3: But I tell you my favorite Jewish dadly, I would
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  Speaker 3: have to find it in London. Yeah, they do the
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  Speaker 3: best bagels.
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  Speaker 2: And so here's a funny thing. Most Jewish delis are
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  Speaker 2: not kosher. What Ben's Delhi in New York City not kosher?
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  Speaker 2: Kats Is Delhi in New York City not kosher. That's crazy, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because it's a nostalgia thing. But actually keeping to Jewish
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  Speaker 2: dietary laws is onerous and very expensive, and it requires
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  Speaker 2: you to close on Shabbat on Saturday, which is a
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  Speaker 2: very profs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I yeah, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was that was one of the most
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  Speaker 2: surprising things I learned right out the bat when I
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  Speaker 2: started keeping kosher. I was like, oh, kats Is and
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  Speaker 2: Ben's can't go there anymore. That was a curveball. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I was not anticipating.
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  Speaker 3: So, speaking of travel, let's talk about the twister fights.
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  Speaker 2: The urine I get in these fights every six months.
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  Speaker 2: This has been my hill to die.
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  Speaker 3: On in this particular fight.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I fight. This is the hill I die on.
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  Speaker 2: So Sean Duffy tweeted, he's the Secretary of Transportation. He tweeted,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's make travel great again. America is a
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  Speaker 2: great place to have a family. How can I, as
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  Speaker 2: your Secretary of Transportation make it better to be a traveler?
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  Speaker 2: And so I replied versus, I replied with our horror
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  Speaker 2: story from Puerto Rico where Jet Blue totally screwed us over.
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  Speaker 2: But then I also said we should not have to
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  Speaker 2: pay extra to be seated together. I think it is
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  Speaker 2: discriminatory that families with young children have to pay extra
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  Speaker 2: for the privilege. It's not a privilege for the right
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  Speaker 2: to sit next to each other. Do you think I
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  Speaker 2: want to sit next to my three year old? No?
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  Speaker 2: But I have to. Yeah, And there's no like people
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  Speaker 2: were like, well, I'm not asking to be seated in
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  Speaker 2: first class here, Okay, I'm asked to be seated together.
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  Speaker 2: We often are put in like literally the back row.
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  Speaker 2: But it is a safety issue for a myriad of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: If we are not seated together. Number one, what if
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  Speaker 2: we hit turbulence and my kid pukes on the person
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  Speaker 2: next to them, I think it should probably be me.
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  Speaker 2: Number two, from a safety perspective, if the oxygen tanks,
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  Speaker 2: if the oxygen masks deploy, I don't trust this random
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  Speaker 2: sitting next to my kid to help them with it
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  Speaker 2: when they're done putting theirs on. And like, think about
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  Speaker 2: what they tell you put your own mask on before
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  Speaker 2: you help someone else. Is because as a parent, your
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  Speaker 2: instinct is to help your child first. That's no one
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  Speaker 2: else's instinct on that plane. Yeah, there are a surprising
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  Speaker 2: number of sexual salt, sexual harassment, all these things that
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  Speaker 2: happen on a plane. Most of the time, grown women
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  Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable saying something. I'm yeah, a child would
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  Speaker 2: absolutely not know hoy to handle that, So I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sitting And like, there's multiple When I was writing the
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  Speaker 2: piece for our Substack, which is on our substact now,
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  Speaker 2: when I was writing that, I found multiple circumstances where
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  Speaker 2: parents were suing in an airline because their child was
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  Speaker 2: seated next to someone who got wasted and copped to
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  Speaker 2: feel so gross. It's so gross, So it's a safety
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  Speaker 2: risk on that side. Third of all, if God forbid
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  Speaker 2: we have to evacuate the plane, I am not getting
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  Speaker 2: off the plane without all of my children, if they're
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  Speaker 2: scattered around the cabin, I am a safety risk because
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  Speaker 2: my priority is not getting off the plane in an
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  Speaker 2: orgary fashion. It's getting my kid. That's my priority. And
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  Speaker 2: I will fight the tide of people trying to get
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  Speaker 2: off the plane to grab my own kid. So it
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  Speaker 2: is a safety risk to not seed family together.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it pretty new? Like I feel like like ten
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  Speaker 3: years ago, when you would book flights, you would just
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  Speaker 3: be all selastically put.
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  Speaker 2: It's because they started charging you for the privilege of
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  Speaker 2: choosing your seats, and also you have to pay for
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  Speaker 2: there's like one hundred different upgrades now that you have
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  Speaker 2: to pay for, which you used to.
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  Speaker 3: Just be like the ticket, the e boat. It is
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  Speaker 3: all in one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, So it's my hill. I will die on it.
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  Speaker 2: The Biden administration actually tried, like to their band. To
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  Speaker 2: their credit, they did try, and they just ran. I
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  Speaker 2: think they just ran out of time before they could
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  Speaker 2: actually make it. A rule. But but yeah, no, it's
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  Speaker 2: it is. It should be priority number one for mister Duffy,
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  Speaker 2: who has nine children and understands that it is not
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  Speaker 2: a luxury to sit next to your children, especially when
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  Speaker 2: they're little or have special needs, which he also has.
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  Speaker 3: Did he reply to your tweet?
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  Speaker 2: He did not know. Well, but it is very high
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  Speaker 2: up on the replies.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, hopefully you'll hear from him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I know a lot of other people were tweeting
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  Speaker 2: the same at him, and I encourage all of our
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  Speaker 2: listeners to do the same because it is a very
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  Speaker 2: easy fix if you are on I mean, you have
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  Speaker 2: to put in all the birthdays, if you're all on
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  Speaker 2: the same reservation, group them all together. Doesn't matter where
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  Speaker 2: you put them, but you have to put them together. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: kind of a no brainer to me.
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  Speaker 4: And it's again it's a safety issue.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I was in London with my grandparents. I have no
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  Speaker 2: it that like an hour into our quest. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: so they might have actually painted the door a different color.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: And my grandfather was like, what wandering around this neighborhood
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: looking for a blue door and it might not even
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: be blue. And so I was just thinking about that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: actually because I'm planning our trip to London, and I
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm not going to make my five children
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: wander around that and hell, like I didd my grandfather.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: That time, that's fine. He's not very well traveled, because
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: after that trip he was like, I'm nasal taking them
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: in the house.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: So what was funny? Segueing back to our TSA conversation
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: and how it's broken. My grandfather's name was Eddie Murphy.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he was on a watch list
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: because he shared a name with an Ira terrorist. And
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: my grandfather had Alzheimer's and he we didn't know for
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: kind of a while because it sneaks up on you.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And my grandfather was a drunk, so I mean he
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: was Irish, so like he was an Irish Catholic, so
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: he was drunk, and so we all just thought that
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the Alzheimer's was his alcoholism for a super long time.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: We're like, oh, Grandpa's a waste. So it again, like no,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: it actually turned down the alzheimer And so when he
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: would go through TSA screening, he was very susceptible to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: like whatever they told him, and so they were like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: were you in Ireland? And he was like yeah, yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and so he would just go along with it because
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: he thought he was being like nice, and he didn't know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: he didn't remember he was never in Ireland. And so
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: it got to the point where my grandfather couldn't travel
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: anymore because he couldn't withstand the TSA.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: No, that's pretty sad.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I always wondered my grandmother killed him in
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: kind of a funny way. We can tell that story
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: another time. But I always wondered, does the actor Eddie
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Murphy get stopped as a potential IRA terrorist or they
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: see this like black actor and they're like, yeah, no,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: we know you're not. You're good. Keep going.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's clear.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Wait.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Can I segue back to a Hugh Grant story that's
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: not related to the original story? Yes, okay, So I
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: know a guy and I won't name him, who lived
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: next to Hugh Grant's parents growing up, and he's about
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: the same age, maybe a bit older, I don't know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And Hugh Grant's love lasses like fan Mail, would go
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: to my friend's house sometimes because they would just get
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: like one door over and my friend. I find it
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: really hard not to say his name. I'll tell you
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: who it is afterwards, would get like the lesses, open
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: them and then call the women who would send this
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: fan mail to Hugh gran And the guy like sounds
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: like Hu Grant. He's like a very posh l Like
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I think he sounds like Hu Grant now, so like
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: a teenage girl would definitely think he sounds like him.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And he would like have phone sex. Oh my god,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: like not always sometimes. I yeah, you probably, yeah, you
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: probably all of them.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear this. Okay, So anyway, going back.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: So greens in school.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's great.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: You're a good thing about it. Yeah, I don't know how,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Like obviously a blanket ban on phones and screens is good,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: but I don't know about like, well, I'm all for it,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: but educational technology is like a wide range, so they
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: will basically have to completely change the curriculum.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I thank I think it will be Like, I think
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: it'll be good because the kids are going to go
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: home and go on screens and so as much as
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: they can get them off of them at school as possible.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: One thing that really annoys me about this conversation in
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: America when they say we're going to take the phones
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: out of the schools, parents say, how can I get
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: in touch with my kid? Your parents never got in
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: touch with you during the day, and they like they
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: throw out this hypothetical. No, they throw out this hypothetical,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: what if there's a school shooting, like like there's like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a point series there's zero one chance of you being
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: your kid being in a school shooting. And what does
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: do their phone?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: What what? What benefits?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And then at that point, I don't know, I want
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: to be want focus focus, Yeah, exactly.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's wonderful. There's a lot of there's a
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: lot of schools that are doing this. I don't see
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it outside me too. Thanks. Great.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: And then I just read a piece in the Free
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Press which I thought was great and you read it too. Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: And it's about what's the I don't want to mess
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: this up. What's it called it?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Is it the right wing thing? To have children?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Yes? But natal it's all focused around this one event
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: called natal con.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Why were we not invited? I was in about this
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: conference by two or three different outlets, The Atlantic, somewhere else,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and they assumed I was going and I was like,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and one of the one of the reporters was the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: person who told me about it, and I don't know
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Well, it kind of makes sense with the peace because
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the basically the crux of the piece is that the
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: majority of people in this conversation and specifically at this
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: event are men and not kind of weird men who
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: were like two like women to talk about how they
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: want very educated women to have many of their babies.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: They're probably all autistic, honestly, And I say that with love. Yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it's I mean it's it's autistic. Like they see breeding
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: as like it are our dog breeder chose like a
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: father that was the right size and the mother who
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: had a good temper, and like she was very calculating
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: in how she bred these dogs to create like the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: perfect family dog. Yeah, and that's how these people see
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: like pairing off and breeding as a human.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Well, this is why I found the piece so interesting,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: because they isn't right wing to have kids now? Yes? Yes?
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: And then why why is it in everybody out in
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: like the wider conversation, And it's because it is being
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: commandeered by like the more extreme or weird right way.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: So I think that the conversation is being commandeered by
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the weird people. But it is absolutely a right wing thing.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: If you look at the number of children per per state,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: it's so much higher in red sin than it is
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: in blue States. I wrote a piece for IWF forgot
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to edit it. I'll do that after we are done here,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: so it should be up by the time this episode
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: is up. But I wrote a piece for IWF about
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: what happened to Montgomery County with the book ban quote unquote,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: where parents didn't want their children exposed to LGBT gender
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: identity books, and the school tried to deny them the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: right to op their children out, and it went to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court and it's currently sitting at the Supreme
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Court now. And so I wrote about that in ISWF.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And I say in the piece that the first protest
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: that I went to outside of the school board meeting,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I brought all my children and they came right from camp.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: And on certain days their camp does a field trip
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and so they all have to wear the camp T
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: shirt and it's like their uniform, and the uniform is
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: tied I it's rainbow. And so I show up with
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: these kids in rainbow shirts, and they all the protesters
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: thought that I as an anti that I was a
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: counter protester, and I was like, no, they just happened
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: to be in their camp T shirts and they're tied
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: like I haven't control that the fact that it's a rainbow.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And they were very apprehensive. They didn't believe me. They
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: thought I was a plant and whatever. And I won
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: them over by saying, if I were a counter LGBT protester,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: do you think I would have six kids? And they
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, no, you would
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: definitely not have six kids if you were a LIB.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And I was like, that's correct, and that was that
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: was it. That was all it took. And I kept
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: hitting a wall of like real distrust until I said that,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and then they were like, we believe you.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Oh that's so funny.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: But it's interesting going back to the men, because you
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: need men to be in the conversation of how we
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: can make more babies, but you don't want them to
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: comment the conversation because it seems just the vible, you know.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of this, so there's this like really weird.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: My friend actually almost went on it, and they turned
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: her down, and I'm so grateful she almost went on
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: this like alt right catholic dating service. I don't remember
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: what it was called, but it was just like misogyny
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: blanketed in like this trad culture, but it was I mean,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: they turned her down because she was too fat, That's
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: what they said. Like no, they like they ask for
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: your like measurements. They asked if you're if you're vaccinated
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: for COVID and you're not supposed to be obviously, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and it was really creepy. The way that they talked
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: about women was really creepy. You and I have talked
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: about this a lot. We've both covered a lot, you
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: much more than me. The trad culture is creepy, well,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: really disturbing, and I get this vibe.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, definitely. I mean there's two kind of sanctions
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: of it where we've talked about this so much, but
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: like the biggest tad influences, it just fakes like there's
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: no real thing about them that they lived like that
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: day to day. Like it's to think.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Even Jeda Diiabela, who's like I think the woman who
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: gives voice to this on the right, I mean, is
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: she now the right. I don't I guess, I don't know.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: But she gives voice to this sort of red pilled
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: misogynist wing on the on the right, and she's like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: their woman who like gives them cover. And it's so
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: funny because she says things like college degrees, especially advanced degrees,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: are useless, and then she has an advanced degree. Women
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: should have children young. She had her only child at
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: forty years old.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Everything she says that's like coded right wing, red pilled
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: is the antithesis of what she did in her life.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: She rails against career women. I'm like, girl, you have
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: been the host of multiple huge TV shows, talk shows
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: on multiple networks. You are the epitome of a career woman.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: She talks about dressing modestly, and I'm like, you have
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: posted jim selfies in your underwear for decades on the Internet.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: As soon as you were able, you were posting jim
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: selfies in your underwear. So it's really wild to see
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: her And I would at least understand it if she
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: would say, like, don't do what I did.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah she doesn't, yah, yeah. If she has some humility, no,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: she she talks as if she's this authority figure on
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: modesty and trad and she was on multiple networks, married
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: a man fifteen years younger than her, had a baby
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: at forty years old.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Like, girl, you are not who I'm looking to for
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: trad woman advice.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean at this point, is she trolling?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: No, she's trying to make money because she sees that's
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: That's what's creepy is that she sees a market as
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the woman who speaks.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: To this well. I mean there's there's a lot of
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: kind of disgruntles women trying to find their Andrew tape.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, no, and she she sucks.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Come to us, Come to us. But it's not just
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I think it's with men. It's not just like the
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: super super obviously crazy kind of far right misogynistic opinions.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just like very innocent stuff that they don't
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: realize what they do. And like when I wrote that
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: piece to the substack, the money Won't Buy Babies about
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: the Trump administration and then trying to find ways to
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: get people to have children, somebody commented and said, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: agree with all of this. I've heard men shamelessly state
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: that their wines are on a long term career break
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: because they're a shamed to say that this at home
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: and looking after the children. And I think that it's
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: more of that than the other. It's more men not
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: realizing that they completely licen in what their wines are doing. Yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I had a friend who she was home with their kids,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and her husband forced her to go back to work
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: because he felt like she wasn't quote unquote pulling her weight,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: as if they're two horses that need to be pulling weight.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And so she went back to work. Everyone was miserable.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: She's working so much. They had to pay literally eighty
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: five to ninety percent of what she was making to
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: babysitters who did not care about their children. So the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: kids were miserable. The kids were not getting enough sleep
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: anymore because they had to be out of the house
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: at seven am so that she could go to work.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: And she netted two hundred dollars.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: A week, Oh my god. And that's inside when.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: You count, when you factor in the gas that they're
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: spending for her to get to her job. The convenience costs,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: like I'm too tired to cook dinner tonight, I let's
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: get instacart, all of those things. It was literally a wash.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Now all of that was for nothing. And I said
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to her and the husband separately, like, what are you doing?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Like you are making yourselves miserable for maybe seventy five
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: dollars a week if we're being charitable, crazy, But I'm
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: doing well.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So like if he doesn't think that raising multiple children
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I assume is pulling. Wait then I can use to
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I would try it for two weeks.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And there was never a consideration of like
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the weight that the household had on his end, like
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: many many, many, many thousands of dollars in student loans
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that he had that she didn't have. That was never
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: factored into the equation of like, hmm, there's more weight
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: on one side than there is on the other. That
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: was never part of it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: People just need to not worry about what they think
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: is expected of them, even by the well, I don't know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: like this guy, did she know he was like this
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: when she married it? Sometimes I'll look into stories about marriage.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: He's a nice guy. I truly I think it was.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was like a societal, cultural, communal pressure
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: because not many women were staying home. But it's just
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: it's not a valued thing. But I think more than
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that from what I hear in these fights of my friends.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: More and more frequently, quality of life is not factored
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: in enough. Like everyone happy and not as rich is
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: way more valuable too. Yeah, And I think people just
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: are short sighted and they don't see that, like the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: mom's staying home and being able to have everyone wake
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: up at eight o'clock and have a slow start to
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: your day. I mean, this is so much of why
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: we homeschool. We wouldn't have been able to have six
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: kids if we sent our kids to school. So that's
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: a moot point. But our lives would be so much
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: different and so much more chaotic and scattered if we
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: had all of our kids in school. And like you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: there's there's costs to homeschooling in our lives, but the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: benefits far outweigh it. I was talking to our dentist.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I brought my son to the dentist last week because
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: he needed a filling, and I said, you know, like
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: six kids, we don't I don't spend as much one
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: on one one time as i'd want with them. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: wish I had more that wasn't At places like the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: dentist there one on one, but I said, I was
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: like the fact that we homeschool. Actually, I do spend
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: a significant amount of time with my kids one on
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: one that I would not have otherwise. And my oldest
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: daughter says it all the time, like we're besties and
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: we maybe not be if she were at school. Oh
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: my God, to share her, she's delightful. That's suck cut,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: that's what you have to look forward to. It's really
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: really nice.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I know, I'm so excited. She's like really getting opinions
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: now and she's extending her legs trying to stand. I'm
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: so excited. Dad, dad, daddad, I just give it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So can I tell you something that's encouraging on that front.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I read and I don't remember where I read it,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and I never want to read more about it because
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it's just gospel on my mind forevermore that children say
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: mama so late in the game because they view their
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: mother as an extension of themselves, and so they're naming
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: all of the things that are outside of themselves first,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: but Mama is like a part of them.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you're the third person to tell me this,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: and I'm really yeah, I'm really sorry, but I just
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: don't believe.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Mama's also hard.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: And I think that's good because I think what I
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: have learned of the past seven months she's seven months
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Saldy yesterday, is that a lot of motherhood so far
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: is about delusion. And I don't think that's bad thing.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's a very good thing. I think it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: very healthy.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: That I'm good at deluding yourself.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Better.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, we were pretty damn deluded, but for the
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: first like three months at least.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Because she thought she was easy.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: But we didn't. We knew deep down that she was
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: really hard. She screamed twelve hours a day. But what
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: we can about ourselves say that no, because that's losing mentality.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And I think so much of it is about mentality,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: just saying yes, are you kind of boce this out
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: loud and saying that like this is miserable and really hard,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: or are you just going to say it's easy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: And just think it until you make it? That is
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: how I've lived my life. Like my parents both died
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: when I was in my teens. My dad killed himself,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Like wow, I'm really Oh yeah, I had a really
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: tragic origin story. No one wanted me after my parents died.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I like it was. It was tragic, awful, an evil yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: my evil aunt.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: My mantra was fake it till you make it, Yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I am happy, I am good,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I have and I would choose one thing to be
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: excited about that day, and it could be the stupidest
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: thing on the planet, but I was like, I am
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: excited to do this. And I would lay in bed
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and I would pop myself for that thing, and I
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: would fake it until I made it. I would just
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: be like, I'm great, things are great, I'm fine, I'm fine.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Was I fine?
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: No?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I was a basket case. But
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you fake it till you make it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I think if I had to give any advice to
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: anybody about like the first three months or possibly the longer,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: it's just like, just don't let yourself realize how hard
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: it is, because Daniel, just for I remember, I think
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: there were two times in the whole six first six
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: month period that I let myself set out loud to
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: my husband, this is ready, and I just bummed everybody out.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: It was just miserable after that for like a week,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: and like, I'm not doing that again. I at the
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: second time, like, I'm never doing that again.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I had a very very hard first year. I was,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: and it didn't help that baby. Yeah, okay, I Seth
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and I were sharing a car and I couldn't, so
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: he would take the car to the train and park it,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and I had the option of driving him to the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: train and then coming home. But when I did that,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the baby would inevitably fall asleep in the car, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: then that would destroy my whole morning. So I would
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: often just let him go and take the car. But
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: then I was stuck in the house the whole day
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: and there was nothing within walking distance, and I lost
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: my mind, Like I truly lost my mind. Yeah, I
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: didn't have any friends, and I didn't I thought it
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: was too good for like the mommy groups, because all
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they did was sit around and talk about their babies
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and sing stupid songs to them. And now, like six
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: kids years in, I'm like, hello, I have a body,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: so glad to see you, and I like, I get
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: into it. I'm like shameless. But I for the first year,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I was so embarrassed and so better than it. No, yeah,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: were so annoying, and you know what that's me Now, Yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I'm happier for it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I think you just have to That's another piece
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: of advice as well. Just literally get out the hands.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter when I know you had to sleep
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: in late ball and it was, Yeah, it was, it was.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I think I will That was my first two, but
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: a bit better because we've realized that, like three months
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: out when we could finally go outside a little January.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah that like, oh, she's just bored. Like I think
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of her crying and a lot of her
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: upset was just like she was sent in the same room.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: For like I my first was born in light fall,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: and I said I would never do it again. I
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: was successful at that. Yeah. Yeah, my two my next
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: two kids were born in the early spring. My fourth
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and my fifth were born in the summer, and then
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: my sixth was an accident. He was born in the
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: dead of winter. So that was hard. But you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: all the rest of my kids that I had, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: there was intention. I had them in the spring, in
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the summer. And it's funny because people think I'm crazy
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: because I am out of my house instantly. Like my fourth, fifth,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and sixth, I was at Trader Joe's four days later
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and with my fifth. I think it was. I was
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: at Costco two days later. Wow, that's like wearing a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: diaper in Costco. And people commented like, there's Instacart, you
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: don't need to be at Costco, and I'm like, no,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: my soul needs to be in Costco.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Well, do you think it's the best time in as
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: somebody who is currently planning to get pripe in the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: next few months surprime, what do you think is the
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: best time in? Because I kind of thought, like a
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: June July, I candan't see start would be good because
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: then you have the baby and.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Night in March. Yeah, yeah, I think that. I feel
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: it was great. Yeah, I think that's right. I my
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: second and my third were born in the springtime. My
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: one was my second was born on St. Patrick's Day.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: My third is his birthday smort Actually your baby, yeah, yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be eight years old. So I always
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: annoy my kids the day before their birthday because I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: have to kiss them, because I have to get all
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: my kisses out on my seven year old before I
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: don't have a seven year old anymore. And he's like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have a lot more seven year olds. I'm like,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: but no, you're never going to be seven again. Oh
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: my god, it's really sad. So he was so sweet.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I love that kid. So yeah, so those were good.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Those were both good timing. I really like that because
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: then we could like ease into the spring and then
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: we had the summer. My summer babies were a little
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: more difficult. I had one and they were both actually
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: they were both due on July first and then born
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: two weeks earlier and two weeks later. That. Yeah, it
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: was tough. With my fourth. She was born two weeks like.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: She was born like thirteen days early I think, or
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: eleven days early, I don't remember. And I brought her.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I remember I brought her to the last Fourth of
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: July that it was under the Trump administration the first
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: time around, because I was like, I don't know what
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: this is going to look like next year. I don't know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: like we're not going to have patriotic Fourth of July
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: ever again, we have to get out this year. And
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: so I brought her out and that was dangerous, Like
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: that was bad. I was wearing her and it was
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: so hot that we kept stopping in at like cafes
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Oh loud.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Really that wasn't as bad as the heat I was,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: And I kept trying to talk myself out of being
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: paranoid about it because I used to live in Cambodia
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and I was like, it's so hot in Cambodia. Everyone's fine,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that's fine, but I just I felt this, like really,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I was having like almost an anxiety attack. I was like,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: this is too hot for her. She was so flushed,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: she's like kind of lethargic. And I was like, we
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: got to pull the trick, we got to pull the escape, Ralph,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like we have to leave. And so my kids were
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: kind of bummed because we were just planning, planning, on
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: spending the whole day. But I was just like I
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: can't keep her out like this, this is too much
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: and so but one thing I will say is and
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: this is like too much information. But I think that
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I I bleed way longer than the normal woman because
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I just do too much too soon. I can't sell myself,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: and so my recovery is like not so great.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I spent a week in bed with the first one,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: so I feel like that's what they tell you, well,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: they told me I had two incs. After seven days
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: in bed, I.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Was like I can't even stay to hit me out.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I want to go to the shop. I want to
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: do something that was horrible.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it wasn't in bed.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I was like around the bed. You know that was
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: too far away. But it's just boring.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's a luxury you only get
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: with the first one. After that, like you have to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: be out.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Hi, this is a young Culter. Welcome to my
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Ricochet on Cast and Coulter. Every week on Ricochet, You're
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: home to center right conversation. Hey, that was pretty good.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: What I remember I brought my second to like a
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: playgroup when he was I don't know, like a week
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: or two old, and all the kids crowded around him
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and they were like little toddlers and they were.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Like exactly, but then like coughing out of him. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: would have a breakdown.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: So he got croup instantly, and I brought him to
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I think I've talked about my old pediatrician. Who is
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: this like mean German man?
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: He was like, well, has he been around other children?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't do that? And I'm like, of course I wouldn't.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, crazy crazy.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: That is actually crazy I agree.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: With that's crazy. That's crazy. No, I do a lot
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of crazy stuff when I'm postpartum because I don't go
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: out much at the end because I'm in a lot
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: of pain and I'm comfortable. And then with my later kids,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I was just afraid I would like drop a baby
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and Trader Joe's in the middle of the aisle because
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I have babies so quickly, and so I don't go
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: out much at the end of a pregnancy, and so
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I go kind of struck crazy, I need to get
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: out and Trader Joe's four days later. With my last
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: three kids, it would like became the tradition, like, oh,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: we have a four day old, let's go to Trader Joe's.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I think, gold, You're not gonna have another one because
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I have to how relaxed you are with the first,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: so I feel like you get more and more relaxed
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: every time. I think the Salurns would make it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just no, it's funny.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Bradley disease.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I had a nightmare last night. I had a stress
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: stream that I was out with Cassie Akiva from Dailey Wire.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: We're friends in real life. This isn't like a random
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: whatever and I was out with Cassie and I was
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: nine months pregnant, but I didn't know, so she asked
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: me how far along I was and I was like,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, and she was like, how do you
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: not know?
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: What do you do?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: just really pregnant. And she was like, well, what does
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: your midwife say. I'm like, oh, I haven't had an appointment. Yeah,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I should probably work on that. And when I lived, yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I know, And when I woke up, I remembered at
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the end of my last pregnancy, my midwife was like,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen you in a really long time.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Are you okay?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: What's going on over there? I'm like, yeah, I'm fine.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: And she was like, it's law that I have to
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: see you a certain number of times to count you
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: as my patient, So can I see you? And I
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm sure you'll see me at the end.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: We good, And she's like, can we talk on the
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: phone so I can log that as a visit And
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if you want to, I don't have anything
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Hi, No you are I'm like, hey, I only had
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: a sonic ban three weeks ago, but can I have
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: an on the one piece? Because I feel like in
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: the UK you have a lot more sonogram. Is that
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: the one thing you don't really have about you? You
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: have like two, well three and the whole brandance?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I had one, you're with most right, So yeah, yeah,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: So I didn't want it because it's such a pain
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: to like find a babysitter and like go, I'm like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: what is there?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Like they all look the same, obd yn is like
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: an hour away and I will still Yeah, because I
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: found a specific one that I like. They kind of
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: crunchy but kind of right wing. They're like, are be honest?
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: But I kind of like him. I like, yeah, so
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I have just id that I have to go there.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: It's Bill Billy mcmaris. It's the one that told me
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: to go there because I would trust that. Yeah. So
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: he called me after they had day sack. Then he
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: was like, I know you probably have an I we
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: g uy n, but I just want to give you
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: this midwif free CeNSE that that's great. Yeah, and he
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: was right, love it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm very laid back, but this this dream,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: so I think it I think it's supplanted. My reoccurring
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: dream for the last twenty years, my stress dream that
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I've been signed up for a college class and I
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: forgot about it and the final is tomorrow and I'm
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: wholly unprepared. I think this has replaced that dream.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Good John is kind of outdated, like who cares? Who
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: cares if you don't?
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what fact I want. Yeah, Well, that's
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: what makes that dream stupid, is that, Yeah, I'm out
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: of college for the last how you know, redacted number
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: of years. But now that I'm no longer, I think
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I'm no longer in my child I'm obviously I'm like
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: not like that as a a puzzle in any way,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Like I still could pop a baby out tomorrow if
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I wanted to. Not that, I feel like I've moved
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: past that, so now I can stress about being an unprepared.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Do you want any birth control? A juice allowed on
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: birth control?
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I have an ID. I have a copy Reita.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Are you're fine? You're fine?
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I'm a big fan.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: I hated that Copperty I had to go to take
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: an emergency. Yeah, I was no health insurance. I had
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: just gone to America because it moved, and like gone
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: infacted and I just started bleeding walking around and then
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: I walked into an emergency room and I was saying, hey,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: can you take this thing out of me? And they
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: were like, yeah, but it's gonna be like four grands
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: and I was like, because I didn't have insurance, because
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: I had just come here to see it, there's time.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Wasn't plan on moving here, wasn't plan on getting married
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: or having his baby that happened four months later. Yeah,
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: so that was my foot time in a planned parent,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: the time with a planned parent. But it was great. Yeah.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I love my copper, iud although I have had fears
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: that it has moved before, but then I don't know,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: maybe it moved back. I don't know. But I had
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: a really bad I D before this that I think
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: was badly inserted and it was painful. This one five
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: stars wonderful.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Does the Copper make you lead more? Because that was
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: the issue with me, I will so much.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: So this is like, we're gonna have to like put
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a warning on this show that it's like for women only.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: So it did it first and then it abated. I
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: have baden.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I was actually definite wrong because they kept telling me
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: that it would stop in three months. Okay. Mine was
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: like a yeah, you're in and I was.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: So I've been debating talking about this on the show,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: and I've decided to just go all for it. The
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: menstrual cup, I am a like I would scream from
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: the rooftops if that were socially acceptable. It's changed my life.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Wait what the menstrul cup? Not I stopped using tampons?
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is very old school. I feel like, no,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: that's not old school. I use it like a fandom,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: you know, the condom for women.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I use a silicon menstreul cup and life changing, multiple
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: multiple reasons.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: How do you know it's not gonna get stuck.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I can feel it. It's just like a tampon, but
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: it's a cup.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: How do you pull it out?
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: There's a little knobby knob on the end, and you
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: just pull it out. You break the section seal a
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: little bit, you pinch it, and you pull the thing out.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you all the reasons why it's changed
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: my life. Number one, when this is so much information,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: When I would pee with a tampon and I would
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: pee on the string and it was disgusting, and so
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I was and I pee all the time.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Well, you mention, pull it back evantal.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: It doesn't work.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, it didn't.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I'm thirty nine years old. It did not work. I
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: would inevitably get pee on it, and then I would
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: either spell like pee or I would have to change
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: my tampon. But I'm changing my tampon every hour because
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I peep.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: All and then it's wry.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's disgusting.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Number one.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Number two, I don't have cramps anymore. I think that
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the tampon wasn't absorbing as like well, and so I
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: would get crampy because it's trying to flow, but it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: like getting stuck. I don't have cramps anymore. I went
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: from like excruciating, like I would plan the heaviest day
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: of my period. I would like, I can't do anything
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: this day, to like, I'm fine, I'm I like know
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: cramps whatsoever?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Wait, so you get periods with the rioty.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I used to. When I was using tampons,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I could not function on the heaviest day of my period,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: and now unnoticeable, I forget that I have my period
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: except that I have to change the cup a few times. Otherwise,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: other than that day, I can go the whole day
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: without changing it and it's fine, but that heavy day
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I do have to change it, like three or four times.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: My period is over a day and a half faster.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I think, Yes, I think because it's it's just has
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: the ability to just come out. Whereas I think the
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: tampon was like acting as a stopper.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: What about pads il I got it. I hate that.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I don't want to wear it.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I hate that I hate tampon.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: So I am obsessed with my menstrul cup obsessed.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll try, well, I'm trying to have a baby
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: sit so they should not be a much longer.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: But but I am like I will scream from the
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: rooftops my menstrul cup has if you use pads, like
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of the things that I just described are
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: not a problem for you. I think that there also
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to be a little hippie dippy sticking like cotton in
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: there and absorbing. Yes, yes, I think it's dangerous. Yeah same, yeah,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: So I the ment walk has changed my life. Every
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: every single month that I get my period, I like
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: talk about it with Seth because I don't have anyone
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: to talk to about this. Now I've just talked about
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: it with like five thousand people. It's fine, but oh
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: myel every month I'm.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Like, already switched this off, by the way.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Or they're like, that's intriguing, I'll do that every month.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I say to Seth, I'm like, my life has changed.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I love this thing so much. It's been like a
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: year and a half and I'm obsessed and he like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: tries to. We got in a fight the other day
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: about it because I'm like, you're not excited for me,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: and He's like, okay, but you've been saying this every
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: single month for a year and a half and I
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: don't know the proper response anymore. I'm happy for you,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I really am. I just I can't. I can't.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Conversation happens so many times a day in my.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: It's like, what is the appropriate level of enthusiasm that
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I am supposed to express for you, my wife about
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: your menstrual cup after a year and a half of youse,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: just let me know where it is?
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm there, okay, we could add this because everybody's already.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: There or there like hmmm. And I feel like I've
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: gotten it off my chest because I've been thinking about
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: saying this on the podcast for a really long time.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: That is the last impe thing.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's about me and my satisfaction. Thanks
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: everyone for listening. Please leave us a review and buy
• 55:40
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• 55:53
  Speaker 2: for a substant and until next time, settle it
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