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Jaguars Thursday: April 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Thursday. Former Jaguars Jeff Langerman and Tony
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  Speaker 1: Vasselli bring you expert insight and analysis of your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Now to get things started, here's the host of Jaguars Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick. Welcome to Jaguars Thursday. J P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagoman, and Tony Vasselli. Is in the building today.
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  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable in the building. I think I forgot what
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  Speaker 1: you looked like. I think I'm in the building like
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  Speaker 1: the next two months on Thursdays, I believe that I
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  Speaker 1: see I landed at four thirty day back in town.
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  Speaker 1: Just to get back. You're you're you're a jet center. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we got this week. Next week we have the mock draft.
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  Speaker 1: Last week after that we have the We're gonna recap
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  Speaker 1: the state of the franchise a week after that. Nineteen
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  Speaker 1: When is the draft? The weekend of the weekend. What's
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  Speaker 1: the date? Six is round one, that's correct, that's the
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  Speaker 1: nineteenth is the That's the Thursday of the franchise and
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  Speaker 1: we're doing that night talking about that. That's because I'm
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  Speaker 1: in Colorado. My my high school coach is getting inducted
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  Speaker 1: into the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame Sam Poiano, who
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  Speaker 1: was Chuck Bogano's dad, And uh if I'm flying out,
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  Speaker 1: uh flying out for that closer to your mouth so
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  Speaker 1: we can hear you enough. Sorry, this is my first
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  Speaker 1: time doing this, um so radio. So I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: out there and get in the Hall of Fame. How
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  Speaker 1: do you get He was one of the best high
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  Speaker 1: school coaches ever. Okayeh, multiple state championships. I figured if
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  Speaker 1: he's going into the as a high school coach, and
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  Speaker 1: he was pretty good. Um, So I'm flying out there,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm actually gonna take the Red Eye back because
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  Speaker 1: I want to get back here for the state of
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  Speaker 1: the franchise. It's a big day and obviously it's a
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  Speaker 1: I love that. It's a great deal. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: fly back. That's dedication to the Red Eye back. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way to be in two places that once
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  Speaker 1: out without doing that, because otherwise you catch the six
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  Speaker 1: am flight Thursday morning, I get back here like at four,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be here for the show. But I missed the
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  Speaker 1: name who else was going into the I got called,
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  Speaker 1: I got uh asked to come uh from him? That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah, I'm excited. He was dinner and everything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he was literally one of the most influential
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  Speaker 1: people in my entire football life, so a long time coach.
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  Speaker 1: I actually was a water boy for him. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: my dream as a little kid was not I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was to be a Broncos, my favorite team, but
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  Speaker 1: like more than going to a college and playing football,
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  Speaker 1: my dream as a little kid was to play high
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  Speaker 1: school football for Sam Pagano because family and everyone who
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  Speaker 1: played there, and I was even I was not even
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  Speaker 1: in the district that I wasn't in the right district
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  Speaker 1: when the high school came to play, so I had
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  Speaker 1: to get I had to apply to go to that.
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  Speaker 1: So you ended up getting into the high school. And
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  Speaker 1: so probably fourth grade, I started being a waterboy for
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  Speaker 1: the high school on Friday nights. Now and then my
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  Speaker 1: first is that legal? Because you were like this just
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  Speaker 1: kind of this just like it was a public schools.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, all my cousins at the time that
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  Speaker 1: Tony goes into high school, all of a sudden, Tony's
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  Speaker 1: dad is driving a new I wish I would have
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  Speaker 1: taken a mile, but I actually started. He had a
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  Speaker 1: football camp at age nine. I started going to Lyle
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  Speaker 1: High football camp year when I was nine years old.
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  Speaker 1: It was one week, yeah, eight one. It was a
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  Speaker 1: one week or four day or five day overnight camp.
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  Speaker 1: He stayed down at where the broadcast at training camp,
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  Speaker 1: but he was huge. I my tenth grade year, I
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  Speaker 1: showed up the practice first day of two days after
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  Speaker 1: we had this thing, you know, the conditioning because you
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  Speaker 1: had during that was the conditioning test. Forty forty dashes
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  Speaker 1: and how long, just back to back to back. Just
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  Speaker 1: there was a time you like you like so if
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  Speaker 1: you're an alignment, you to be under certain. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it was brutal and any I can see like a
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  Speaker 1: twenty yards one time and anyways, it was more just
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  Speaker 1: just a test. But so I showed up to go
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  Speaker 1: to stretch minute. What happened your freshman year? You didn't play?
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  Speaker 1: So my no, my freshman year when I was in
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  Speaker 1: high school in Colorado, Junior High was seventh, eighth, ninth grade.
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  Speaker 1: High school was ten eleven twelve, So that was my
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  Speaker 1: high school. So tenth grade went to high school and uh,
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  Speaker 1: ninth grade, I was the water boy though still you
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  Speaker 1: were still in ninth grade. I got a better story
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  Speaker 1: for boy. Ever, I got a better story for you.
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  Speaker 1: So tenth grade, are water boarding out Episcopal or close?
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  Speaker 1: I retired. I quit football coaching with Mark breaking Way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: now you are the water too much worth, too much
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  Speaker 1: pressure for him, though, I think he got fired as
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  Speaker 1: a water boy to probably, But uh, I went to
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  Speaker 1: camp that summer, the same football camp quarterback. I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the quarterback ninth grade. I was a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: at my junior high. Showed up first day, five minutes
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  Speaker 1: into stretch after running, Sam Buganda walked up me and said, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna make you a tight end. I found out
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  Speaker 1: after the year he said the only reason to make
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  Speaker 1: you a left offensive tackle right there, and then it's
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  Speaker 1: because I know if you could go from quarterback to
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  Speaker 1: offensive line and which I would never quit. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: and all my friends made varsity. I didn't make varsity
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  Speaker 1: the first half of the season, so as a tenth
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  Speaker 1: grader I played sophomore football for the first six games
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  Speaker 1: of the year and was the waterboy perversity as a
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  Speaker 1: tenth graders pretty pathetic. Yeah, and then I got called up.
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  Speaker 1: Seventh grad of the year, I got called up and
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  Speaker 1: the varsity. So it's almost like the Michael Jordan's story
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  Speaker 1: got kicked off. His high school basketball team wasn't good
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  Speaker 1: enough all of a sudden, every all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you're Tony was selling. But seriously, every one of my
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  Speaker 1: friends was on varsity except for me, and I'd be
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  Speaker 1: the waterboy when they're like, man, this is ridiculous. You
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  Speaker 1: know here, here's the I think it's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: There's the next break an interesting point to that. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in this. Tony was kind of
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  Speaker 1: a late bloomer. I kind of was the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: And my experiences, you haven't bloomed yet, But I mean
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  Speaker 1: my experiences is that from being around guys and Tony,
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  Speaker 1: you'd probably say the same thing. The guys that are
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  Speaker 1: late bloomers, I think learned a work ethic that I
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  Speaker 1: think it was at a higher level than the guys
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  Speaker 1: that were just ultra talented, because the guys that were
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  Speaker 1: ultraed talent at that talent just got got them to
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  Speaker 1: the point where they needed to be, so they never
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  Speaker 1: learned how what they had to do to get better.
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  Speaker 1: They just were naturally better than everybody else. Now there's
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  Speaker 1: some guys that I mean and it takes a very
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  Speaker 1: unique talent and a unique person that has a work ethic,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, this unbelievable amount of talent. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you find the combination of those two, you really
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  Speaker 1: got something special. But I wanted to say this earlier
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  Speaker 1: to you. It's amazing how much as as athletes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and guys that played the pro game for a long
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  Speaker 1: time like we did that we go back and we
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  Speaker 1: talked about how big of an influence that our high
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  Speaker 1: school coaches were on us and in our in our
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  Speaker 1: entire lives. I mean, Tony is talking about Pogano. I
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  Speaker 1: mean in my high school era, we had a guy
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  Speaker 1: by the name of Edge Scott and he was God
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  Speaker 1: to me when I was growing up as a kid,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because he was he was
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  Speaker 1: my brother's coach. I mean, he is he had a
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  Speaker 1: stature about him, you know, he was like kind of
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  Speaker 1: like Chuck Noll, you know, he had that that kind
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  Speaker 1: of that face. And then in baseball we had Mike Nunley.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we were very fortunate at the high school
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  Speaker 1: that I went, and we had I mean great, great,
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  Speaker 1: uh coaches, and I think that you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: coaches and teachers. I mean, they're very special. I think
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of kids lives, and I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, the people don't really understand
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  Speaker 1: how big of an influence they had on them until
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  Speaker 1: they get to be adults later on in life. Right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just on the field. Sometimes it goes
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  Speaker 1: to show you how important they are, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: how important it is how to live that teachers and coaches,
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  Speaker 1: and how important it is to get that right. He
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  Speaker 1: was Uh, he said, so the whole have it started
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  Speaker 1: if you just joined it in When he called me.
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  Speaker 1: He called me like three or four weeks ago, he said, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: He said, coach, what's up? And he goes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten back to And I said, hey, gngradulation goes,
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  Speaker 1: I'd really like you to be there. I said, say
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  Speaker 1: no more, I'll be there. I said, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I will be there. April eighteen, I
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  Speaker 1: will fly in and I will be there. The funny
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  Speaker 1: thing is my whole my dad is gonna before he goes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming to Florida the week of I will be here.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be all route where you live. He goes, what so,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm looking forward to that in the state
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  Speaker 1: of the franchise and so uh but the uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing to me how long this day draft takes to
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  Speaker 1: get there. It's just that I think it's even more
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me this year, for at least for me, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: you might be a little different. We've been so bad
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  Speaker 1: that when you're picking the top five, you're kind of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: like what great players, the top prospects. You can kind
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  Speaker 1: of figure out, like who's gonna be there? Picking twenty nine,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's like, I'm I'm excited, exciting, but here's
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  Speaker 1: no idea, do you do we for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in a long time, whoever they pick, there's a good
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  Speaker 1: chance this guy won't be a starter. Well, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think also it kind of puts a premium on
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  Speaker 1: on Dave Caldwell and the staff to get it right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's easier to pick in the top five
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, when you're not picking a quarter
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  Speaker 1: better be right. Yeah, But but when you're when you're
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  Speaker 1: in the bottom of the first round, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: go back and you look historically at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the first round over the last you know, don't start
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  Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, but you go back
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  Speaker 1: farther the next because you you know where it's at
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  Speaker 1: as far as what guys turned out to be after
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  Speaker 1: their fourth year. But you look at those drafts of
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  Speaker 1: past years and look at the bottom of the first round,
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  Speaker 1: and and it's amazing how much the percentages dropped as
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  Speaker 1: far as hits go, when you get into the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the first round compared to the top five. You know,
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  Speaker 1: which is where this team has been selecting for a while. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's important for this team. Except for in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen Dave's first draft, where every great
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  Speaker 1: player came in the second in the back end, it
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  Speaker 1: was later first round and the second, third, fourth. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: those were all the great players, all the top. You're right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean degree, But I mean here's the thing. You
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  Speaker 1: can you can get a great player in the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the four great players throughout the draft. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: pick get a little bit. You gotta get it right,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta make the right decision. And it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's harder to make the right decision. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you realize there's a good chance that tell me what
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  Speaker 1: position they pick were the guy's a starter. I can
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  Speaker 1: think of one for linebacker turning on the set up too,
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  Speaker 1: I mean opening tight end maybe maybe yeah. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying like the base personnel starter but not opening
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  Speaker 1: day starters. But I mean, I understand, but opening day
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  Speaker 1: tell me where the opening day starter is going to
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  Speaker 1: come out of this draft. Injuries can happen during training campaign,
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  Speaker 1: you never know. But if you were right out the
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  Speaker 1: starting lineup on paper after the draft, and you'll be
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  Speaker 1: a wide receiver, especially a rookie. But I mean, but
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  Speaker 1: whence the last time that happened? It's been a while.
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  Speaker 1: When's the last time we didn't expect the first three
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  Speaker 1: rounds to start there was? I mean, you think about it.
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  Speaker 1: What happens to good all of a sudden. One of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons why this week I was watching the film
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  Speaker 1: before you real quickly because I want to hear I
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  Speaker 1: want to hear more about the linebackers. But what you
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  Speaker 1: just said, JP, and the interesting thing the way they've
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  Speaker 1: built this team, and Jeff has been very on point
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  Speaker 1: of saying you only go so far doing it because
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  Speaker 1: it gets expensive. But the reason is is not necessary
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  Speaker 1: because they've been great in the draft, have been good,
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  Speaker 1: very slow starting under Dave Carbo, but it's gotten better
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  Speaker 1: each year. But they've hit on free agency the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, and so that's really now long term though,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do that because the one thing we're getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to feel here in about a year or two,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll worry about that down the road, is these
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  Speaker 1: good players and drafted are going to start want to
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  Speaker 1: get paid. So now all of a sudden, you right now,
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  Speaker 1: it's no big deal part of it. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: Jeff's right. Hitting the twenty ninth pick, hitting in the
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  Speaker 1: second round this year and hitting in the third round
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  Speaker 1: still is critical because those guys you have to build
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  Speaker 1: with if you want to continue to be able to
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  Speaker 1: manage this syre cap and make it that's your cheap labor. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I haven't looked at you know, the linebacker group.
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  Speaker 1: I've said before, I always watch Mike Mayocks, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the top five of each position. Kid from Alabama's number
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  Speaker 1: one right inside, he's not the number one, the number
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  Speaker 1: one guy that and he has this Tremaine Edmonds from
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, and he's a fantastic player. Range he's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit bigger than Evans, the guy at Alabama and
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  Speaker 1: number two, Uh, ro Quan Smith Georgia. Good player. He's
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  Speaker 1: a little he's a little small when shorter, and he
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  Speaker 1: is a thumper. Oh my gosh, it's amazing how he can.
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  Speaker 1: And there's certain guys just have a knack. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's had a bad angle and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden he delivers a hit. You're like, hown, heck did
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  Speaker 1: he deliver the hit like that from the angle that
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  Speaker 1: he was at? You know? So, I mean, he's he
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  Speaker 1: many people think that he might be the top linebacker picked,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So uh and the guy Virginia Tech would
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  Speaker 1: be a wonderful pick because he's rains, he's got sized.
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  Speaker 1: But JP, you you know from listening to me over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years that you know, you watch
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  Speaker 1: Alabama's defense because it's prospect after prospect after prospect, and
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  Speaker 1: and over the last two years, when I was watching
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  Speaker 1: Alabama and I'm watching the draft eligible guys, I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: him thirty two, and I'm going and I'm asking you
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  Speaker 1: at the time, JP, who's thirty two, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know what year they are and all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, And he said, well, he's a he's a freshman,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, really So then last year watching it again,
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  Speaker 1: I said, JP that that thirty two guy, what years
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  Speaker 1: he drafted? Old said, now you've got one more year. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And then this past year, Uh, fantastic player. Again if
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  Speaker 1: a guy like that slipped down, Matt has him third
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  Speaker 1: at lick. Yeah. So I mean here I am thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if he's third at that position, and maybe he goes sooner.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean think about that. I mean, of all
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  Speaker 1: the positions that are on the field, okay, and ignore
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  Speaker 1: the specialist part of that and the rankings. I mean
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  Speaker 1: linebackers typically not you know, a coveted position like corner, quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: defensive end, especially in this case because you're basically drafting
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  Speaker 1: Sam who's only play uh Rashaan Evans complaining where you anywhere?
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  Speaker 1: You know that? But is he gonna take Miles Jack
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  Speaker 1: off the hid? Yeah? But here's what he can what
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  Speaker 1: he can provide, which I think is is kind of
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  Speaker 1: unique from watching him. Uh, he can play any linebacker
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  Speaker 1: position that you put him at. He's going to be
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  Speaker 1: fantastic on special teams. Didn't he do a little bit
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  Speaker 1: edge Russian too? Yeah, That's what I'm saying. You can
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  Speaker 1: rushed a little bit. I think you'd give you a
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  Speaker 1: little bit there. So I think that that that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of intriguing about him, you know, and that he could
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  Speaker 1: give you a little bit of an add of boost there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna take snaps away from you know? That's a
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  Speaker 1: great question, but you know, sooner or later, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I guess what, Jeff, I don't want to jinx it,
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  Speaker 1: and is not everyone's gonna be healthy this year? Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, that was very lucky last year. Actually, the
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  Speaker 1: health of this defense can go. Hey, look, I give
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  Speaker 1: a lot of credit to Thomas Slinsky and Scott true Luck,
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  Speaker 1: which is the strength conditioning staff and in the training staff.
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  Speaker 1: They've done a great Wait a second, So are you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna rip them when they have an off here and
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  Speaker 1: we haven't running. I never ripped him. No, that's my point.
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  Speaker 1: It's I think that Tommy's great and I think True
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  Speaker 1: Luck are great at what they do. But I think
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  Speaker 1: it's unfair sometimes that if you have a rash of injuries,
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  Speaker 1: are world Well, if there's a rash of injuries, then
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  Speaker 1: you blame the coaches. Come back, Hey, tonight is our guess?
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  Speaker 1: The schedule show Yes, we're gonna guess the schedule. Can
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  Speaker 1: I sit that segment out already? Hit it? We're somebody
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  Speaker 1: in this room radio is gonna hit it because it
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  Speaker 1: comes out in a couple of weeks allegedly by the contest,
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  Speaker 1: didn't there? JP, Well, yeah, it's still going on where
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  Speaker 1: you're giving away from ticket. No, I'm not, that's over.
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  Speaker 1: That read is over, by the way, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to, but you're still get away. I'm not. I'm not.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and guess the schedule. Check out
• 17:29
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• 17:37
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• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Me Autos dot Com Studio. Jaguarris Thursday too. Right now,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: we're back Jaguars Thursday. Chadrick, Jeff Logan, Tony but Sully.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: This is the Guess the Schedule Show. We got the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Grand Master mixed tonight. This is the Guest the Schedule Show.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And this is a riveting show each and every year
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: where we try to take a stab at what the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: schedule is going to be? Are we eligible to win?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Mcallen's no, we're not. Um, well, so you're giving them
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: free tickets. I know that. Well, you give tickets to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: every wins out of this tickets for what. That's a
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: great I can give you tickets for something. No, you
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: said Jaguars tickets. You said, yeah, well, uh you already
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: have those. I can always use more. The check is cleared. Um, okay,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: so how do we want to do this? Just gonna
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: go through them first, logs, Tony, anybody way, whatever. The
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: first what we're doing is let's pick our What are
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: we saying for the opening? Who do you think the openers?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: That's the big one. See for me, rematch to the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: FC Championship game, either a four or primetime game, the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Patriots at the Jags. That's my that's my opener. Do
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you got the same thing I got? Yeah, I got Pats.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be I think it's uh copied off my paper.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: There's a Thursday night opener that will be fillying somebody,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and I think the Sunday night opener will be here
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Jags Pats And now we have no inside info on this,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: but for the record. Maybe Tony does you know people
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and stuff? Well, so you go, I don't. I don't
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: have it. It's open. I got the Redskins in the opener,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and I've kind of saved the Patriots game. When it
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: becomes games start to become very meaningful in the month
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of December. I have them all the way down in
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: week fifteen, late December game game. So the other big
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: one is the London trip. Where do we have the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: London trip? JP, where do you I've got it in
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: week seven, it's seven or eight. I got it seven,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and then the Florida Georgia game is week eight. I've
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: got Eagles Week seven in London, and then the bye week, okay,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And my my prediction is is very hopeful. Okay. So
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that it is week eight, okay, because if
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it's week hunting trip on week nine seasons, week week
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: eight would push over to where the the bye week, okay,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: would be right in the peak of the rut. Okay,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and then the following week would be a home game,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: so that I would also be able to be traveling
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that week as well. It was one year you were
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: so angry we were in London during the rut I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was terrible. So what do we do it over one
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of the best deer seasons on record? Uh? You know?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: So all right, listen, this is let's continue this week
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: terrible radio at the Cowboys. Week at the Cowboys. This
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: is stupid at Texans like now it doesn't like it
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And I got the chief, who do you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: have them closing with? We know what the divisional? At
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the Titans again? Second straight here? Yeah, and say I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: don't I put it at the Texans? Got it home? Here?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: You got home? And I think we're thinking the same
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: thing because you know, DeShawn Watson, I think it's the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: NFL looks and says, if I was looking at all
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the teams, who do I think is going to be
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: playing for the playoffs most likely? And I think right
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: now is that it's the Jags and the Titans, Jags
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and the Texans, And so I think it's gonna be
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: whether it's home or a way to flip the coin.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But I think we played Texans week seventeen. I think
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it's a way because tax Layer Bowl is that weekend here,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Well I should have made that away. So there you go.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: That's my guess. I mean either way. I mean, we
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: we've got Texans, Tony, and I do you could flip
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: flop it with the Texas where you've got them on
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the other part. But you know, here, here's the thing.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I've got a three game road trip. Uh it's you're
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: changing it already, Tony. These are gonna be posted on Twitter,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: but we're gonna put them out there so people can play.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: The only problem that it is with my schedule is
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that there's a three game road trip and it's actually
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: four and five that you know that this team wouldn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have a game here at ever Bank because of London
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and the bye week. What you Yeah that that sometimes happened,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: but so it's kind of hard to avoid it. Let's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: look at this. You have on the road week two, three, home,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and then on the road eight counting the home game,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be gone for out of one, two, three,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven, eight weeks. They're gonna have
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: one game at home in eight weeks. Because that's what
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you're saying. But here's how it's laying out. I mean,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I've got it there. All the home games late in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the season. I mean, this team would be you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting if you half of my schedule is after
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the by nine, they might forget how to get to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the stadium. After you have Titans and Jets at home,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and then you go to the Cowboys and Texans at
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: home at the Bills, and then Patriots Colts at home,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and that's that's how you'd like to have it in
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the schedule at home, Tony, you got a three game
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: road trip in yours, so you did before you started
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to scratch them all. I don't. I have no three games,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you know. I got a couple of back that. I
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: got a couple of two dame road trips. Um, who
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: we are you having playing the Cowboys? When do you
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: said I had a week two at the Cowboys? I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: got twelve, i got nine right after the bye first
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: divisional game. I've got week three at the Colts. That's
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: my guests, obviously, Thanks JP for all right, I'm done
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: with this, all right? Yeah, so well postings on social
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: media once again, the next worst radio next week week
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: we could. We have to save these just so that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: when after the schedule does come out, we can see,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: we can see who won, because it is a competition. Okay,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: usually win these, Like I'm saying, I won the mock
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: draft last year. I did. I got two and you
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: guys got one each. I got t J. Watt going
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to the Steelers, like, and I got the top five
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: whatever the one that I had the top for you? Yeah,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I had that one too, Yeah, totally, totally. I got
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the top guy. And I don't remember what his name is. Yeah, yeah,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: what's that? Yeah? Yeah, I got the tough guy. We'll
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: put all three of our choices for the schedule, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Joe Fortunatos on social media and you can compare. He
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: did all four have opening weekend home against Indie. It's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Got the London game week eight, then
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to buye. I too have three road games. But it's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: week ten, eleven, and twelve, and we're finishing up where
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you I think, were you guys away at Houston? You
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: have it? Well, uh, put those on there, we'll come
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: back in a moment. And talking uniforms, the Tennessee Titans
• 25:05
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• 25:22
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• 25:37
  Speaker 1: we're back Jaguars Thursday. I'm surprised we made it back.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean that was such rivetings, compelling, high energy radio
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that I mean, I am are you? Are you from
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: scribble it all your lots there at I was having
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety this week about what are you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: thinking about it? A lot of homework, Yeah, how putting
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the algorithms in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I broke out all
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the tools, yeah, everything. Jeff Lagman, Tony was sli JP
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: shatterck with the Jaguars Thursday continues. Coming up in a
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. State of the franchise here at ever
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: bank Field, And part of that is the uniform unveiling
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: for the Jackson. You've seen maybe maybe, and some of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the players have seen them. They've been able to do
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: preview videos and such and do the video board things
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and all that with them. And you've seen on social
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: media the reaction video of seeing them for the first time,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: But you haven't seen the uniforms yet, so that's gonna
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: come out in a couple of weeks. The Tennessee Titans
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: had their unveiling earlier this week and a huge production
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: on Broadway in downtown Nashville. Thousands of people showed up
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: for this and a but those got leaked, right, yes,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And apparently there's an NFL investigation to try to find
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the leak where it came from. The Tennessee Titans uniform leak.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But they are officially out now. It's a little darker blue,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I guess. And they had helmet. The biggest changes the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: helmet and the numbers are weird, you know. The biggest
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: changes is the helmet because the helmet used to be
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: white and then everything was applied on the white. Now
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the helmet has become more dark blue. Uh. And Tony's right,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the numbers are very very different. What I say, you
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: two guy, how hard is that going to be to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: see from the booth? I don't know. I mean i'd
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: have to see that. I mean the numbers. Yeah, I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: if it's white on dark, it shouldn't be hard. It's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: when you get the dark. If you get something other
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: than white on dark, which I don't think they're gonna have.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be bad, like I just like
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, you got to see him first, you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's hard like the color like the Color Rush like
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Tampa does the all pewter that whatever red orange color
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and then silver numbers. You have no idea what the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: numbers are. You can't see the numbers. Dark is silver? Okay,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: what's the other? What's probably I don't know what is
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: their colors whatever, their colors are the darker in color um.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But it's when you get these color Rush uniforms where
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: these uniforms that have a color in a non wider
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: black number, it's very difficult to see. Pull up a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Titan's helmet it's a white if it's a white number, Joe,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be hard because that's one thing
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I haven't really seen yet as Tennessee's that they didn't
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I wanted to see the updated look of the helmet.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And they also said something about the numbers show did
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you read that there skinny the shape of there's parts
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of them or every number has in it the shape
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of the state of Tennessee in it. I read that, Yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that's that's kind of cool. I guess we can look
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: at the numb show the numbers again. I don't see
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the state. I guess it is at the state of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee down by the nine. What do you mean
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the shape of the state and the numbers. That's what
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: they said that they're full of it. I'm just telling
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you what they said. The numbers are numbers. There's the helmet. Yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: it's just the background color used to be white. Now
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it's it's maybe not the dark dark navy blue like
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. But they used to be black and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: like the sixties. But they're not the navy blue. Now
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: they look good. I mean there's no dramatic changes, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: mean the big change. There's just a helmet and some
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of the number designed. I guess the number design right here,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I'm reading it. Um, are you trying to tell me?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: And you're you're gonna tell me more about how the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: state is involved? The state is involved with the numbers?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: What they said right here, Tony, you're buying into that? Okay,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: here are you buying into that? Every number in East
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Jersey is shaped in a way that exemplifies the northeast
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: corner of Tennessee as the state appears on a map,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: subtle ode to the fans in the state northeast corn
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: that sticks out above the mountains state. So you're saying,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: all the numbers are pointing towards the northeast corner of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the state. No, they have the shape of the northeast,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: so right the northeast, that shape right here, Jeff, they're
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: saying that edge right there. Can we get a number
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like where Bristol is and all that Johnson City is
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: all that's up there? I got it right here. This
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I can see that. I mean to Tony's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: got that up on his phone. Can the state as
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: it looks on a map? Now, somebody tell me, Okay,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: what I'm missing from seeing how I'm supposed to see
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that in the numbers? All right, So you tell me
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: where that works. At the top right of the eight
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: if we're watching on Jaguars dot com, is kind of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: pointed like the top right corner and the eight right
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and the two maybe and the two as well. It
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: is the top right corners are going up there, like
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I said, And tell me what that has to do
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: with anything. I take that when I said it's cool
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: at all. Thank you to their fans. Maybe we're gonna
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: put a panhandle at ours. No please, no, maybe not
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: maybe not so like swords like on the helmet to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the we're supposed to be swords going down the back
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: of their helmets. The one thing that they did as
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: they add a computer color to the uniform a little bit, right,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit of it, like a two tone kind
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of shoulder pad thing. It's silver basically, right, yeah, yeah, cool, yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: But I mean the whole numbers having just a little
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the little it's like taping on another piece of fabric
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that's a little triangle piece, you know, and it's maybe
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a one inch one, it's one inch triangle. And you
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: take that little piece of fabric at every northeast corner
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: of the number, and it looks stupid. So here's another.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: The color red accents the uniform, including the red stars
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: on the inside back of the neckline, inspired by the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: three stars of the Tennessee state flag. A right, there
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you have it. I'm just trying to I'm trying to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: give you it is what it is. Those are the facts.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Man Angler number fonts were designed with Greek or Roman
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: lettering in mind. Okay, yeah, all right, Well that's enough.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Of the jerseys, the Jaguars jersey. You are you gonna
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: miss the two tone helmets, Tony who said they're going
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: away lugs? Um Am I gonna miss them? No? But
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I was okay with them. I wasn't. I was never
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: They looked a lot better when they won. It never
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: bothered me. Um, I would have. I probably would have
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: preferred one colored helmet, but it wasn't like you know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: some people were like just utterly against it, like this
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. It never bothered me to that extent um.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: But if I was choosing helmets, I don't think that
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: would have been my choice. But it didn't bother me.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Did bother you? I mean, I thought you're pretty ugly.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Now I've been won ten games a year. When they
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: were wearing them, they still look I just you know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: it was flat because you had the flat black and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: then it went to a glossy and we've we've got
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: a helmet on the golost right on the back, and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you know, and I would have I would have liked
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it if you know, if it was like all gold
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: or all flat black, and say, I love the flat black.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I think flat black is pretty hip. Yeah, yeah, but
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: for how long you know, for how long? This has
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: only been around for four or five? The flat black
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: five years and five years again every five. You're saying
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that flat black is something that would go out. It's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a fat You think the color black is a fat
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: flat black? He likes the glossy black flat black helmets
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: at least. So you're saying that two tone fat went
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: out too already? Maybe so maybe so was it ever
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a fat? Though I don't. I wouldn't have minded all gold.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It would have been okay with with their way. But
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, for JP to say that a flat color
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: would go out, I think it's ridiculous. When did it
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: come in? I didn't. I didn't know, like one was
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: in one of that color. Have you ever been to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a paint store to buy paint? Yeah, okay, it's another
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: way to call it is Matt. I'll say that Matt
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: has been around forever. I've seen Matt black cars recently
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: though not now. When I was like in the nineties,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: would you spray paint your own car? Jeff? I mean,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: am I wrong? No? He's not wrong. JPS just living
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: in Alabama where I guess in Alabama can't paint a horse?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: You know we'll come back. They paint cars in Alabama
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: by hand alot running water and everything. We'll go around
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• 35:03
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• 35:10
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• 35:12
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• 35:37
  Speaker 1: at ever bank Field, we could crowd tonight. You told
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: me there were a lot of people outside when you
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: came in, right, yes, sir, yes, yeah it was. I did.
• 35:47
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  Speaker 1: but that it's cool. It's a little time to get
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: down here. Seven o'clock. They'll kick off against Mexico. Are
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you I'm not? I'm out. Why I'm not gonna make
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: it's your reason? Stuff going on? Like what you're single?
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Girlfriend going on? Like what don't worry about Like if
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't, if I wasn't trying, I'd love I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to support my country in this team. I love my
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: country if I didn't have I got a wife, five kids.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: But you with no excuses? Why don't you go on?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I got other stuff going like what? Don't worry about it?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Why are you? I don't think you have anything going on.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I'd rather not blab. He's got something going on, don't
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: worry about it. If he's got I know you're worried
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: about it. It It seems like JP doesn't have something going on.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: JP has something something going on. Let's go around the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: National Football League and let's start off tonight with Texans
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  Speaker 1: owner Bob McNair. He told The Wall Street Journal that
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: he regrets apologizing for saying that they can't have the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: inmates run in the prison and reference to player demonstrations.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: He wasn't talking about players. Jabe read it correctly. Can
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I finish? Thank you? You already screwed it up, so
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: can I finish. We've had a history lately of screwing up.
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  Speaker 1: I was not referring to the player. How was he
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: not referring to so last October some players left practice.
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Brown spoke out harshly against the McNair. He said
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  Speaker 1: Thursday that he was referring to mates as the NFL
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: executives and more controlled than the owners did. The relationship
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: between the owners in the league office is what his
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: point was. He actually said it last year after he apologized.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: If he goes, that's not what I meant. I wasn't
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: referring to players. He was. It was under the context
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that he was frustrated with Goodell and the NFL staff
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: because they he felt like they were running the show
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: when with the owners. That there's decisions owners should have
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: been making and league staff was making them without consulting
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the owners. So he was calling the NFL staff and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that's rights proper anyway, Why it's term, I'm just yeah
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: and so, but but here's the thing, and then he
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: took a shot. Did you see he took a shot
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  Speaker 1: at Dayne Brown? To my point, but here a shot
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: because he said something about Dwayne Brown. Is not like
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  Speaker 1: being honest, roof. But Bob McNair needs to talk less
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna get I'm sorry, Jo, I'm not gonna
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I am a huge Bob McNair fan. I'm glad you are.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't he doesn't do himself, he doesn't help
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: himself out. Well, I'll just I know the guy's character.
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  Speaker 1: And this is all say about Bob McNair is if
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a Jaguar fan, I love the Jacks and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: work for this organization. This is my team that drafted me,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I would be a Bob and their fan and for
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: them because I'll never forget after going there and my
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: shoulder not working in three surgeries and trying to play,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and it was five games into the first season. I
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: was there there in all the season, and there was
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a meeting with Bob McNair's Charlie Castley, the surgeon who
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: had done the two surgeries after the stuff didn't go
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: right here and uh head trainer and me. So we
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: all sit down, what are we gonna do. What's the plan?
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Most want to know? Open first comedy made in the meeting,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: he says, before we get started, all I want to
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: know before we talked about anything else, is I want
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to know what's best for Tony Bazelli. We're gonna make
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a decision was best for him good? Which I was
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: going into that meeting going, oh great, you know here
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: they pick your your pain. You you know, I'm playing.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: And it just struck me the way he did it
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and the way and consistently in the eighteen months I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: was there, A honest guy with integrity paid months. I know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I'm shocking, I know, but he was. I'm just telling you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, no, I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: not saying you're wrong that. I think it would be
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: careful what you say because it can that because it
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  Speaker 1: could be missing true. But as far as a person
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: of integrity, yeah, you know, he's great. I mean, I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: just I'm a big fan. He's not very smooth, Yeah,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's something to be careful in
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: today's world with social media. I mean, things you can
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: say things social media, I mean, but because of social media,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: they take a life of their own. Catches fire fast.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: That comment said when you and I played, would have
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: been I would never even hit the radar. But in
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: this world we live in, it catches and it's wildfire.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: It's like a brush fire with with no rain for
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: six months. I mean, it's no offense to fires. Now,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: it's what else you got? What else you got? The
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: trade the Patriots and the Rams. The Rams are stocking
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: up all of a sudden, Crandon Patriots, Brandon Cooks and
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: a fourth round pick to the Rams in return for
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a first round pick in sixth round. To two great
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: stories there. One is the Rams are are absolutely going
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: for it, I mean and trying to get star power.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is what Tony just said, what
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: are the Patriots doing well the world? I read about
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: it because they traded a first rounder last year, a
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: lower first round. They gotta higher, they gotta higher first round.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It's a one year rental. But what happened was is
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: they tried to sign him. They couldn't get a deal done,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and they basically said, we're not paying you what you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: want and we never are going to. We're gonna get
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: whatever we can for you. They get to their number
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and then that's it. But they lost some players. They
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: lost Malcolm Butler, lost the solder now that was Brandon Cooks.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: They lost Danny Danny Amadola. Why can't they afford to
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: pay some of these guys? Who are they paying where
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: they can can? Jeff, it's there the philosophy. I think
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: he just says, we're not going to I mean, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: don't need it. Tom Brady's underpaid. I don't get it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Tom Brady, I'm like, listen, I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: under I want more money now. If we're not gonna
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: have any players around me, if you're not of the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: half fifty million dollars a year, if you're if you're
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, you're not spending the cap, and Tom Brady
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: is underpaid, shouldn't Tom Brady be going to them and say,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: look for the ten million you didn't spend. That needs
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: to come to me. Because the reason that they're able
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to make all these mistakes everywhere, because they have made
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes with their draft and in free agency,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: is that you can make mistakes when you've got the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time and without him, I mean,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: they got to know who they're drafted in the first round,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: they're picking a quarterback, first round quarterback, that would be surprised.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: He's you know, and it may not happen in the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: first round, but it may be a second tier quarterback
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: in the second ROUNDE If he's forty, you gotta get
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: a guy he's forty. Well, they've got a Brian Hoyer.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: He's back. You know, he was Brian Horror, that guy
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: that was toxic. And Johnny Manzel said, I don't know
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: if you guys saw that. You see that the Browns
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: should have known that Johnny was not doing anything. Johnny
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Manziel comes out and says two things. One thing, he
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: says that, well, they should have known that I wasn't
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: gonna be studying film that I kind of like to
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: wing it. He said, they should have known my my,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you know, my reputation if you're him. And here's the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: other thing that he says, to get a job right now.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: The quarterback room when he went to Cleveland his first
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: year was toxic. I wonder why, Well, yeah, because you
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: were in it, right, I mean, he's blaming everybody else
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: in the room but himself. But then at the very
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: end he says, yeah, but you know it was it
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: was my fault. But I don't understand why would you
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: say everybody's fault, but you know what, it's my fault.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: What are you doing, Johnny? Just be quiet, go back
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and you know, to that hole that you came out of.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And and because he's come out of his out of
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: this little hole and he's still living in his own reality.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: He's playing spring league ball. He's gonna play in that
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: little thing coming up. And yeah, he's another example and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: here for the Patriots. He needs to just shut up.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Johnny just needs to shut up, okay, and go play
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: football for a while and prove that you can play
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and then let your actions speak, you know, for you
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: instead of opening your mouth. Speaking of quarterbacks, Robert Griffin
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the Third is back in the league now, one year
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: deal with the Ravens. I'm surprised you went in the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: league last year. I was. When you're talking about a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: top he's one of the top picks the league, the quarterbacks,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if he's on the roster. Is he
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: better than Colin Kaepernick? I don't know. I mean, I mean,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, put it put it this way,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: if if you were if you were in their heyday.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Take take both quarterbacks in their heyday, and I'm I'm
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: talking like when they were really good for one year,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: okay with you exactly in their heyday? Which one would
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you take? It's a coin flip, right now, go to
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: coin they weren't good. Nick had more success than three.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You wanna know why I would
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: take Why I think a team would is more likely
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: because I think talent wise, it's a coin flip. But
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: why they would sign r G three before cap because
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: there's no there's no major story in distraction. And I
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: used to say with any player, if you are going
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to bring distraction or news stories or uh or talk
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that is away from the football field in the game
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of football, then you better be really dang good because
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the team is not going to do it for a
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: backup player of any position. And so and everyone, you know,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: you hear, you know that Kaepernick is not getting a
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: fair shake, and that he's you know, being you know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: shut out. There's collusion and all these all this talk,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm I don't think there is. But what I
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: think it is is team owners don't like listen, if
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: you were really good, Like here's the deal. If Tom
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Brady or uh Drew Brees or Cam Newton or go
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: down the list of top ten quarterbacks, hat we're causing distraction,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: causing non football stories. Every team would still line up
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to have them on the team because they're talent outweighs
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: any distraction or any nuisance they bring. But when you're
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the nuisance and the distractions is bigger than your talent,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you're not getting a job. That's just how it works,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: all right. So we we gotta save time for the
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Drew Lahoya jeweler for allegedly lying about the value of
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: investment grade diamonds. They paid around and they ended up
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: being worth about six million. I thought, I of those
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: fifteen and nine, read fifteen and nine, fifteen and six anyway,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: So the bottom line is he bought He bought a
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: lot of jewelry. But it wasn't diamonds. When you read
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: it the first time, I thought, like when you hear jewelry,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, like fifteen millions of stuff, like you're
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: gonna wear, your wife's gonna wear. It's not that type
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: of jewelry. He actually bought stones investment grade, not set
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: in a ring. Investment grade, you know, just one of
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: those one of those categories you know that you've just
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: gotta have. But he and he said he got swindows. God.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I mean you go and you if you read, if
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you read anything or learn anything about about investing, the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: first of all, taking care of your money. Diverse five
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: investment grade. Diamonds is not one of the categories they
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: teach you about. But precious stones is. That's cold so different.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I owned any but I'm saying when
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I read the first time, I was like, why would
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: anyone buy fifteen million dollars with a jewelry? Then you
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: if you I read it again, and I'm not I'm
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: not an investment advisor. I'm not saying it's a good investment,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: bad investment. Obviously he trusted the wrong person. I got
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: some dimonds he needs to buy. Wait is saying this, Jeff,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: people I got I got people buy gold. People buy
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: gold all the time. Yeah, because most of the people
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: that buy gold aren't actually buying gold that's in your
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: hand block of gold woods etfund or something. I mean,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: but some people actually buy gold. Gold You can buy it, Yes,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: where do they make this gold bully on how it's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: not right? It's right there. Where are you making fun?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Everyone says wrong? Where do they make this stuff? Help
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: me out here, Joe, my right. The boy story is there,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: not that that you can buy that type of gold
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. This is but when I read that,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. He's buying diamonds, fifteen million dollars
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: worth of diamond and now he's suing the guy because
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: he got it a a praise and it was way less
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: when he paid. He's upset, very good less dummy. Why
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: didn't you have him a praise before you brought him?
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Who knows? Hey, that's it for the show tonight. Been
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: back from galivanting in California. Joe Fortunato, Jeff Flog JP
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Shadow Next week Jaguars Thursday, Jaguars Radio