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A Clockwork Shining Discussion on RealityCzars · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 8: Heck, yeah, dude, So we're getting into a pretty fun topic.
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Speaker 8: We had Sean mccannon not that long ago, and he
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Speaker 8: was explaining to us what he thought about, Uh, what's
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Speaker 8: that movie Thomas, what's the Eyes White Shut? And we
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Speaker 8: broke down some Kubrick stuff and that was a really
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Speaker 8: interesting one. Kubrick was a really interesting guy. And I
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Speaker 8: haven't seen your documentary yet because I just don't have time.
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but I need to and I'm going to
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Speaker 8: and uh, we're going to promote it tonight and I
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Speaker 8: want everyone to watch it. So the name of it
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Speaker 8: is The Clockwork. Yes that the.
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Speaker 10: Clockwork Training is just a clockwork orange combined with a
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Speaker 10: clockwork shining. Two of Stanley Kubrick's biggest films. I personally
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Speaker 10: believe two of my favorites. At least I think people
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Speaker 10: hold those both really near and dear to their heart
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Speaker 10: when it comes to the Stanley Kubrick.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, dude, they are great films. You told me the name,
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Speaker 8: and I was telling myself that I was going to
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Speaker 10: Good, all good in the hood. Yeah, we so we
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Speaker 10: basically I think you get you. Guys had A had
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Speaker 10: me on whenever I came out with the first documentary
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Speaker 10: JFKX Solving the Crime of the Century. If you didn't,
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Speaker 10: me and Jay Widner we got together. We decided to.
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Speaker 10: I had him on my show because I wanted to
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Speaker 10: talk to him about The Shining and Stanley Kubrick and
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Speaker 10: I wanted to give him my analysis on that. So
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Speaker 10: I started watching The Shining over and over and over
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Speaker 10: again to try and find new things, which is really
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Speaker 10: strange because you would think with a movie that came
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Speaker 10: out in nineteen eighty that it would be very difficult
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Speaker 10: to find things that people haven't seen before. But I
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Speaker 10: have one hundred percent. I found things within The Shining
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Speaker 10: that people have not seen before. That's in our documentary
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Speaker 10: on Amazon Prime. But I just I brought him on
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Speaker 10: and I was like, Hey, this is what I think
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Speaker 10: is going on with The Shining, And I was like,
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Speaker 10: we should turn this into a documentary because Jay's a producer,
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Speaker 10: he's a documentarian. I don't know if that's a word documentarian.
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Speaker 10: But he had done two previous documentaries on Stanley Kubrick,
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Speaker 10: which is a Kubrick's Odyssey one and two, where he
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Speaker 10: basically posit that The Shining is Cubrick's confession to faking
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Speaker 10: the moon landing. And I was like, Okay, well, I
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Speaker 10: want to do a film with my theory on this
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Speaker 10: because I think it makes the movie make complete sense
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Speaker 10: because there's so many holes within the Shining and things
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Speaker 10: that just don't make sense that are kind of like
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Speaker 10: placed there. Not only with the inconsistencies and the continuity
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Speaker 10: errors within the Shining, Shining is one of the biggest
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Speaker 10: movie that has several continuity ores. There's continuity airs all
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Speaker 10: through the entire movie, Like the very first one is
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Speaker 10: a sticker on Danny's door disappears in the beginning of
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Speaker 10: the movie. In the next shot, There's a chair that's
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Speaker 10: behind Jack that when in the next shot, is completely gone.
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Speaker 10: The carpet changes when Danny stands up in the hallway
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Speaker 10: before he goes in the room two thirty seven, there's
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Speaker 10: light switches that disappear. There's a light switch that's underneath
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Speaker 10: Office, which Almond looks a lot like JFK. A lot
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Speaker 10: of people have already pointed that out. There's a light
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Speaker 10: switch underneath the picture outside of Almond's office when Jack
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Speaker 10: first walks in there to meet him, and then later
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Speaker 10: on when Jack is walking back in Almond's office to
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Speaker 10: destroy the radio to prevent Wendy and Danny from leaving
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Speaker 10: the overlook, the light switch is gone. And then there's
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Speaker 10: an earlier in the movie whenever they're giving a tour
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Speaker 10: where they're getting a tour of the overlook, whenever they're
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Speaker 10: going up there to stay, they're getting a tour, and
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Speaker 10: Wendy and Danny's being shown the storage room, and there's
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Speaker 10: a light switch right beside the door of the storage room.
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Speaker 10: And then later on when Wendy is dragging Jack's body
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Speaker 10: into the storage room. You know that famous scene where
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Speaker 10: he's like go out and track and he's banging on
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Speaker 10: the wall and all that, and then he gets let
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Speaker 10: out of the storage room by an unseen force. The
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Speaker 10: light switch is gone. So people have never really been
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Speaker 10: able to explain why these continuity airs are so prominent
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Speaker 10: in this movie. Because Stanley Kubrick was a perfectionist. Everybody
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Speaker 10: knows this. He's a masterclass filmmaker. He would make sure
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Speaker 10: that everything was perfect and everything was exactly the way
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Speaker 10: that he wanted it to be. And people have had
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Speaker 10: a really difficult time wrapping their head around how there's
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Speaker 10: so many continuity airs and so many mistakes within this movie.
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Speaker 10: And some people attribute that, which we also attribute some
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Speaker 10: of that in our movie, that Kubrick was rewriting the
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Speaker 10: script as the movie was being shot, which is you
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Speaker 10: don't ever do that. No director ever rewrites the entire
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Speaker 10: movie as the movie is being made. And we show
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Speaker 10: scenes in there where Cubic is basically rewriting the entire
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Speaker 10: script as the shining is being shot. So that could
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Speaker 10: be for some that could you know, make up some
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Speaker 10: of the continuity airs it because he's rewriting the whole thing.
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Speaker 10: But whenever you're a set designer, you know that you
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Speaker 10: don't when something is finalized, like you don't change it,
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Speaker 10: you keep it the same throughout the entire movie, because
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Speaker 10: then that screws up the continuity of the movie. So
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Speaker 10: then we posit that this is like an experiment that's
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Speaker 10: going on up at the overlook. This isn't anything like
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Speaker 10: what you think that it is. It's you've never heard
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Speaker 10: this theory before. This is a brand new theory that
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Speaker 10: no one has ever talked about before. And if anybody
10:55
Speaker 10: has talked about it, they've heard it from me, because
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Speaker 10: me and Jay did this show where I was explained
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Speaker 10: going into my theory, but I haven't. I hadn't laid
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Speaker 10: out everything in congruency like it is in this documentary.
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Speaker 10: So yeah, we got a trailer at the bottom too,
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Speaker 12: Can get some more hallucinogenic drugs, hypnosis, electric shocks to
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Speaker 12: the brain some of the methods used in secret CIA
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Speaker 12: mind control experiments.
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Speaker 10: There are many theories as to what the shining is
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Speaker 10: really about, from the faking of the moon landing to
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Speaker 10: Native American genocide and the Holocaust.
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Speaker 13: Now, if he did fake the Apollo moon landing, then
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Speaker 13: he probably has really deep connections into the intelligence world.
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Speaker 13: Why are there these gigantic continuity airs in this movie?
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Speaker 14: The occulted meeting has to be comprehensible. It's just hidden,
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Speaker 14: usually in a very systematic way, so that it could
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Speaker 14: be understood by someone coming along later on. Who knows
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Speaker 14: what the real meaning is supposed to be.
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Speaker 10: We believe that there's something even more sinister lurking beneath
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Speaker 10: the surface of this master hotel.
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Speaker 13: So Lookout Mountain Hotel looked a lot like the Overlook Hotel.
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Speaker 15: You realize there's no such thing as coincidences like that.
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Speaker 10: As Lookout Mountain studios ran by the Air Force.
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Speaker 16: And told the story of nuclear weapons testing by the
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Speaker 16: United States of.
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Speaker 9: The Army Navan Air Force. The Air Force was.
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Speaker 15: Reportedly, there were more films made at Lookout Mounting than
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Speaker 15: at all the other film studios in Hollywood.
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Speaker 13: We really don't know what these famous film directors were
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Speaker 13: being recruited for. What project or whatever was it?
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Speaker 10: The moon landing, the CIA's k Ultra programs were admitted
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Speaker 10: to the public inteen seventy five years before the release
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Speaker 10: of The.
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Speaker 16: Shining These experiments were done without the informed consent of
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Speaker 16: the patients.
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Speaker 4: Look At some UFO cases and the things that are
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Speaker 4: reported tells me.
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Speaker 17: That MK Ultra is likely being applied.
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Speaker 18: My mk Ultra mind control experience, I was taken to
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Speaker 18: various military, NASA and DARPA installations for sophisticated mind control programming.
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Speaker 15: Woke Disney, Marilyn Monroe, James Stewart, Carrie Groan, Ronald Reagan.
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Speaker 15: Nobody really knows what they were doing.
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Speaker 16: Up there, as well as high ranking military and Department
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Speaker 16: of Defense personnel.
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Speaker 13: But people don't realize is that many of the people
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Speaker 13: that worked with Kubrick also worked with Kennedy. This is
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Speaker 13: actually the smoking gun proving that Kubrick was working with
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Speaker 13: the government.
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Speaker 15: These were all CIA sponsored experiments.
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Speaker 10: I said, I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm just gonna bash.
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Speaker 15: Your brains and putting little symbolic cryptic clues and Easter
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Speaker 15: eggs pertaining to the fact that they're still doing it.
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Speaker 10: These clues include a hidden swastika in the background of
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Speaker 10: his old.
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Speaker 18: Room, what was the set up, what it was being
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Speaker 18: told and realized that it was a lie all along.
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Speaker 15: But right there in the narrative in the dialogue, they're
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Speaker 15: telling you that this was a very real program coming
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Speaker 9: Ah an awesome trailer.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, it's such a good bad guy.
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Speaker 10: I know, dude, he kills it in that movie. And
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Speaker 10: that's one thing that Stephen King, because Stephen King hated
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Speaker 10: The Shining, if you guys remember, like he was just
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Speaker 10: trashing it and bashing it the entire time. And but
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Speaker 10: the really the only good thing that he ever said
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Speaker 10: about The Shining was Jack Nicholson's performance. He was like, yeah,
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Speaker 10: Jack Nicholson killed it and this but the rest of
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Speaker 10: the movie, I think it's it's been theorized that and
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Speaker 10: what we talk about it in the movie too. That
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Speaker 10: Steve that Warner Brothers. Basically, it's not confirmed. It's just
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Speaker 10: a theory that Warner Brothers paid off Stephen King to
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Speaker 10: like stop trashing The Shining. They were kind of like, here,
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Speaker 10: here's a big bunch of money, stop trashing our movie.
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Speaker 9: How much, Mike, can we actually run like a crowdfunding
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Speaker 9: campaign for Stephen King to just shut up about everything
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Speaker 9: from now on.
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Speaker 10: I know, dude, Oh my god, I cannot handle him
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Speaker 10: on x bro. Oh my god. When I see people
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Speaker 10: repost this stuff, I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Dude?
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Speaker 8: It's actually tragic, man, Because I liked Stephen King a lot.
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Speaker 8: I probably read like twenty plus of his books. I
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Speaker 8: love the universe he created, and then he just kind
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Speaker 8: of pooped all over it.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, you had some really good things. And I think
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Speaker 10: Stanley Kubrike I kind of realized that he like because
16:36
Speaker 10: it's a different there's a difference between writing a book
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Speaker 10: and writing a movie. Like for a script for a movie,
16:41
Speaker 10: it's completely different than writing a book, you know. And
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Speaker 10: I think Stephen Stanley Kubrike seen that and he was like, Okay, well,
16:49
Speaker 10: what we'll do is well kind of because Warner Brothers
16:54
Speaker 10: had a pretty published copy of The Shining by Stephen King,
16:58
Speaker 10: and they had already had a really a lot of
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Speaker 10: success between a A list director and a horror film,
17:05
Speaker 10: which was The Actresses, which was directed by William Freakin,
17:09
Speaker 10: and they were like, okay, well, how can we you know,
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Speaker 10: duplicate this? And Stanley Kubrick is coming off of Barry Lindon,
17:16
Speaker 10: and Barry Lindon was not a success at all. It's
17:19
Speaker 10: probably Kubrick's biggest flop. It flopped in the box office,
17:23
Speaker 10: it flopped critically, it flopped in the audience. So Warner
17:26
Speaker 10: Brothers had this pre published copy of The Shining by
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Speaker 10: Stephen King, and they kind of handed it to Kubrick
17:32
Speaker 10: and was like, hey, here's this. We think that this
17:35
Speaker 10: should be your next film, and it's highly possible that
17:38
Speaker 10: Kubrick was kind of like, well, this is what I'll do.
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Speaker 10: I'll write this script that is really, you know, straight
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Speaker 10: cut to Stephen King's novel, and I'll hand that to
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Speaker 10: Warner Brothers, and then as we're shooting the film, I'll
17:55
Speaker 10: be rewriting it to make it my own movie, because
17:59
Speaker 10: it probably wouldn't gotten accepted by Warner Brothers if it
18:02
Speaker 10: wasn't a clear cut type of script that followed Stephen
18:07
Speaker 10: King's novel pretty closely. So then he was in there
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Speaker 10: like completely rewriting the entire movie every day, and it
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Speaker 10: got so bad that Jack Nicholson is was like, I
18:19
Speaker 10: don't even read the script anymore because every day when
18:23
Speaker 10: I wake up it's changed. It's something different. So I
18:25
Speaker 10: don't even bother reading anything.
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Speaker 8: That's nuts. Man. I just watched a little, a little
18:33
Speaker 8: mini doc on Shelley du Ball and dude, she was
18:37
Speaker 8: terrorized during the filming of that set. Like Sanley Kubrick
18:42
Speaker 8: was a complete psychopath asshole to her and wanted her
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Speaker 8: to like be legitimately terrified, like throughout the entire filming,
18:52
Speaker 8: like so bad that he would like isolate her and
18:54
Speaker 8: wouldn't let her like like you know, be near the
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Speaker 8: other actors and things. So he didn't want her to
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Speaker 8: have any sort of comfort. Absolutely bizarre, man.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, he told the cast and the crew not to
19:08
Speaker 10: talk with her, or sympathize with her, or get anything
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Speaker 10: for Yeah, it was unbelievable. We have a lot of
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Speaker 10: that footage in the documentary and we relate that to
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Speaker 10: what Stanley Kubrick's trying to portray within the Shining, He's
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Speaker 10: also doing two actors, and then he's also doing it
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Speaker 10: to the audience. So it's an experiment on many different levels.
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Speaker 10: It's not only an experiment within the film. It's a
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Speaker 10: movie about an experiment, and then as an experiment on
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Speaker 10: the actors and the people that are a part of
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Speaker 10: the movie. And then it's also an experiment on the
19:41
Speaker 10: people that are watching it. And that's what we kind
19:45
Speaker 10: of relate all these continuity errors too, because as a
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Speaker 10: big of a perfectionist, the Stanley Kubrick is, it doesn't
19:54
Speaker 10: make any sense why all these continuity errors would be
19:56
Speaker 10: there unless he symbolically wants the people that are watching
20:01
Speaker 10: it and the audience to slowly start questioning their own
20:04
Speaker 10: reality as they're watching the movie, and as Jack is
20:08
Speaker 10: going further and further into delusions, the audience would sublimately
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Speaker 10: also be going in to some sort of delusion as well,
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Speaker 10: like thinking, oh, well, this was here before and now
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Speaker 10: it's not there, and they'd be like questioning their own
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Speaker 10: reality as.
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Speaker 10: Within the movie, the characters are questioning their own reality.
22:00
Speaker 9: Is this in addition to or in place of the
22:04
Speaker 9: Apollo eleven theories that go with the shining, like does
22:07
Speaker 9: this just sit on top of it and not another
22:09
Speaker 9: layer or does this replace that?
22:12
Speaker 10: Well, Jay Weiner pretty much came up with that theory
22:18
Speaker 10: that the in his two previous documentaries that the shining
22:22
Speaker 10: was Stanley Kuber's confession to you know, faking the moon landing.
22:27
Speaker 10: And I think that there is some credence to that.
22:29
Speaker 10: I mean, two thousand and one of Space Odyssey was
22:31
Speaker 10: being filmed at the exact same time that the moon
22:34
Speaker 10: landing was going on, So it's highly possible that Stanley
22:38
Speaker 10: Kubrick just you know, had the actors shoot some extra
22:42
Speaker 10: scenes and they didn't know that this was going to
22:46
Speaker 10: be a part of the moon landing footage, and then
22:49
Speaker 10: he just didn't put it in two thousand and one
22:50
Speaker 10: of Space Odyssey kept it and then he That's what
22:53
Speaker 10: was shown, and that's what we see of the moon
22:55
Speaker 10: landing was actually bonus scenes from two thousand and one
22:59
Speaker 10: Space Odyssey. We do talk about the moon landing a
23:02
Speaker 10: little bit in the documentary, as you've seen in the trailer,
23:07
Speaker 10: but it is not is not the main focus of
23:10
Speaker 10: the movie, but we put it in there because that's
23:14
Speaker 10: what Jay Widener's two previous documentaries are pretty much on, is,
23:18
Speaker 10: you know, Stanley Kubrick faking the moon landing and the
23:21
Speaker 10: shining being his confession. I mean, you got Danny standing
23:26
Speaker 10: up in the hallway, has the Appollo eleven shirt on
23:29
Speaker 10: the carpet, patterns on the floor look like the base
23:33
Speaker 10: of the Apollo eleven launch. He's going to Room two
23:36
Speaker 10: thirty seven, which at that time people thought that the
23:38
Speaker 10: Moon was two hundred and thirty seven thousand miles away
23:41
Speaker 10: from the Earth. So you know, I mean, I think
23:46
Speaker 10: it's pretty solid, and it's plausible that Kubrick may have
23:49
Speaker 10: had some kind of hand in it, and I think
23:51
Speaker 10: that it makes sense when he's making this new age
23:54
Speaker 10: space movie that with special effects that has never been
23:57
Speaker 10: seen before in two thousand and one A Space Life see,
24:01
Speaker 10: and then it just happens to be there. We did.
24:03
Speaker 10: We go to the Moon at the same time, and
24:06
Speaker 10: that explains, you know, because people with the moon landing,
24:10
Speaker 10: they're like, oh, well, they couldn't have faked the moon
24:12
Speaker 10: landing because so many people would have had to have
24:14
Speaker 10: been on in on it well with that, with doing
24:17
Speaker 10: it like that, that means only if literally only a
24:20
Speaker 10: few people would know.
24:23
Speaker 9: Also, I usually bring up Manhattan Project. How many people
24:26
Speaker 9: were involved in the Manhattan Project, far more than even
24:29
Speaker 9: in like a large movie production.
24:32
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, and they kept quiet about that for
24:35
Speaker 10: quite a long.
24:36
Speaker 9: Time because it was a compartmentalized. And even if you
24:39
Speaker 9: don't get into this in your new documentary, I'm curious
24:42
Speaker 9: if you've got any takes on the Playgirl magazine that
24:45
Speaker 9: Jack has. That was another like weird thing that he's
24:48
Speaker 9: just in the lobby reading like a like a male
24:52
Speaker 9: porn mag Yeah.
24:54
Speaker 10: That we wanted to include some of that, but the
24:56
Speaker 10: movie is already almost two hours long, and we were
25:01
Speaker 10: kind of strapped for time with all the people that
25:04
Speaker 10: we have in the documentary, and in order to tell
25:07
Speaker 10: a cohesive story, some things needed to be cut. And
25:10
Speaker 10: that's one of the you know, the hard things with
25:14
Speaker 10: being an editor is that you have to make executive
25:17
Speaker 10: decisions and cut things out that doesn't that you don't
25:20
Speaker 10: think this serves the story and doesn't create a really
25:23
Speaker 10: good flow. I mean, this movie could easily have been
25:25
Speaker 10: like four hours freaking long. But I had a hard
25:28
Speaker 10: enough time making a two hour long movie that I
25:31
Speaker 10: would have probably went in singing if I if it
25:34
Speaker 10: was four hours long. But we're thinking about doing a
25:36
Speaker 10: director's cut later on and in a couple of years,
25:40
Speaker 10: so we'll be adding some of that stuff in there too,
25:43
Speaker 10: because that is really important. We do bring up the
25:45
Speaker 10: sexual at tension between Jack and Danny though, because that
25:48
Speaker 10: is very prominent within the within the movie the shining
25:53
Speaker 10: and it's it is really strange the Playgirl magazine that reading,
26:00
Speaker 10: because it's normally only homosexual dudes that read a Playgirl magazine.
26:08
Speaker 9: And he's just like casually reading it at his work site. Essentially, Yeah,
26:14
Speaker 9: it's really wild.
26:16
Speaker 10: Whoever found that one was really really paying attention. He
26:20
Speaker 10: had the zoom in on that bad boy.
26:22
Speaker 9: But so many times they're like, I know that, I
26:27
Speaker 9: know that.
26:27
Speaker 10: Because I have that magazine.
26:32
Speaker 8: Are there any other little things that got cut that
26:34
Speaker 8: you want to talk about? Now?
26:37
Speaker 10: Well, there's just some things that I would have liked
26:41
Speaker 10: to have added in there, which because in the trailer
26:48
Speaker 10: we saw Jay Wider he was talking about Lookout Mountain,
26:52
Speaker 10: which Lookout Mountain is a military base on top of
26:54
Speaker 10: Laura Canyon. Well, it was a military basis owned by
26:57
Speaker 10: Jared Leto. Now imagine that. But there used to be
27:03
Speaker 10: a hotel that set there before the military base went in,
27:09
Speaker 10: and the hotel burnt down, burnt to the ground, and
27:12
Speaker 10: then the Air Force came in and built their military
27:16
Speaker 10: base on top of it called Lookout Mountain Lookout Mountain
27:19
Speaker 10: Military Base, air Force base, and a lot of top
27:23
Speaker 10: secret stuff was going on there. You heard Mark Devlin
27:25
Speaker 10: in the trailer talking about all the people that had
27:27
Speaker 10: top secret security clearance, Marilyn Monroe, Ronald Reagan, carry Grant,
27:31
Speaker 10: all these people, really famous actors had top secret clearance
27:35
Speaker 10: there at that facility is where a lot of the
27:42
Speaker 10: nuclear testing stuff went down. But all the nuclear tests
27:46
Speaker 10: were done on miniature sets. It wasn't actual nuclear bombs
27:50
Speaker 10: being dropped. Everyone is familiar with that, everyone especially in
27:53
Speaker 10: this community, probably already knows that. But it's just a
27:56
Speaker 10: really important thing to get across that because some people
27:59
Speaker 10: don't know that those nuclear bomb testing were done on
28:03
Speaker 10: miniature sets. They think that there were legitimate bombs that
28:07
Speaker 10: were being dropped and they were filming it. That's the
28:09
Speaker 10: furthest thing from the truth. What the fuck happened to
28:12
Speaker 10: the camera where did the camera go that you're telling
28:13
Speaker 10: me that the entire house and everything around it is
28:16
Speaker 10: completely exploded and destroyed, but the freaking camera just doesn't
28:20
Speaker 10: get destroyed. So wacky. But a lot of films were
28:24
Speaker 10: made up there that are still classified to this very day.
28:26
Speaker 10: But the thing that I didn't realize until after the fact,
28:29
Speaker 10: that I didn't even put two and two together on
28:32
Speaker 10: was the hotel looks very similar to the Overlook Hotel
28:37
Speaker 10: within The Shining. There's very few pictures of Lookout Mountain Hotel,
28:43
Speaker 10: but it looks very similar. And then it burned to
28:46
Speaker 10: the ground. Well in Stephen King's sequel to the book
28:52
Speaker 10: The Shining called Doctor Sleep at the end of the
28:55
Speaker 10: movie and at the end of the book, the Overlook
28:59
Speaker 10: burns of the.
29:02
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, really fascinating stuff.
29:05
Speaker 4: Uh.
29:06
Speaker 8: The as far as I know, the hotel that they
29:10
Speaker 8: used for that, at least the outside shots, it's near me.
29:15
Speaker 8: Actually we went and visited it. It's in uh like government.
29:19
Speaker 10: Camp, timber Line Lodge, I believe, Yeah.
29:21
Speaker 8: Yeah, Timberland Lodge.
29:23
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah.
29:24
Speaker 10: Some of the external some of the external shots, which
29:27
Speaker 10: is another thing that I would have liked to have
29:29
Speaker 10: brought up with in the movie too, which is another
29:31
Speaker 10: continuity air that is not in the movie, but we're
29:34
Speaker 10: gonna put it in in the director's cut. In fact,
29:36
Speaker 10: I'm actually going to write this down because this was
29:38
Speaker 10: a really big one. So when the first establishing shot
29:41
Speaker 10: of the overlook right from the outside, you can see
29:46
Speaker 10: the back of the hotel, and there isn't a maze
29:50
Speaker 10: back there. There's no maze in the establishing shot with
29:56
Speaker 10: the first time you see the hotel, but then later
29:57
Speaker 10: on whenever you see the established shot, the mazes there.
30:00
Speaker 10: So that's another really big continuity there. I need a
30:04
Speaker 10: pin or something, I'll just type it into my computer
30:06
Speaker 10: so I don't forget about it. But yeah, that's a
30:09
Speaker 10: really big one that I forgot to mention within the documentary,
30:16
Speaker 10: which there's going to be a lot of people that
30:17
Speaker 10: watch this documentary and realize exactly what's going on that
30:21
Speaker 10: is also going to add to it and find other
30:24
Speaker 10: things which is just astonishing to me, like the the
30:28
Speaker 10: Nazi swastika in the background of the gold room. No
30:31
Speaker 10: one has ever seen that before. I was the first
30:34
Speaker 10: person to see that, which is in the movie, and
30:36
Speaker 10: I'm also the first person to see that there's a
30:39
Speaker 10: bloody handprint on the lady's ass. Whenever Jack gets up
30:46
Speaker 10: from the bar. The second time he's in the gold Room,
30:51
Speaker 10: before Grady spills the alcohol on Jack's shirt, before they
30:54
Speaker 10: go into the bathroom to you know, so that Grady
30:57
Speaker 10: can get the alcohol try and get the alcohol off
31:00
Speaker 10: his jacket. There's a lady that walks in front of
31:03
Speaker 10: them that has a bloody handprint like right on her
31:07
Speaker 10: ass that no one has ever seen before. I was
31:11
Speaker 10: the first person to see it. I have talked about
31:13
Speaker 10: it several times, so other people hear that and then they,
31:16
Speaker 10: you know, take that and they're like, oh, well, I
31:18
Speaker 10: found it first. No, you didn't. You didn't. I seen
31:22
Speaker 10: it first. And the only way they I even saw
31:26
Speaker 10: that there was a swastika in the background of the
31:29
Speaker 10: Gold Room is that I saw it on a really
31:31
Speaker 10: big screen. I got to see the shining around a
31:34
Speaker 10: year ago on Halloween because they were they read they
31:38
Speaker 10: put it back in theaters for a special night on
31:40
Speaker 10: Halloween so people can go and watch it. So I
31:42
Speaker 10: went to go see it on a really big screen.
31:45
Speaker 10: That's the only way that I would ever have been
31:48
Speaker 10: able to notice the swastika in the background because it
31:52
Speaker 10: was really big and blown up. I would never have
31:54
Speaker 10: seen it on a small screen.
31:57
Speaker 9: Yeah, I like I had Kathy Bryan on there. Does
32:01
Speaker 9: this go into Project Monarch in particular or is it
32:05
Speaker 9: mostly just mk ultra and like leaves the rest to imagination.
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Speaker 10: Well, I want to give the entire movie away because
33:46
Speaker 10: then no one would go and watch it. But there
33:50
Speaker 10: is a poster on the wall that the skier, but
33:54
Speaker 10: the skier that other people have pointed out, I didn't
33:56
Speaker 10: see that. I wasn't the first person to see this one,
33:58
Speaker 10: and I want to make that clear as well. But
34:00
Speaker 10: I'm the first person to relate it to mk Ultra.
34:03
Speaker 10: Other people have seen it and pointed it out, but
34:06
Speaker 10: they didn't know what it meant. They had no idea
34:08
Speaker 10: what it meant. They thought that it was like a minotaur,
34:11
Speaker 10: which is a halfway decent theory because Kubrick has a
34:15
Speaker 10: lot of minotaur symbolism within his movies. You know, Full
34:20
Speaker 10: Metal Jacket has that minataur type of scenario. Clockwork Orange
34:24
Speaker 10: with Alex has that type of minatar, you know, that
34:26
Speaker 10: dead look like. Yeah, the Kubrick it seeksteria, and they
34:32
Speaker 10: relate that to the poster because they think that the
34:36
Speaker 10: poster resembles like some sort of minotaur. And then other
34:40
Speaker 10: people think that it was that it's related to Colorado.
34:44
Speaker 10: There's a mountain in Colorado that I believe is called
34:48
Speaker 10: Monarch Mountain or something like that. But Kubrick could have
34:51
Speaker 10: put anything on that poster. It could have been why
34:56
Speaker 10: did it have to be Why did it have to
34:58
Speaker 10: say Monarch at the bottom of the poster, you know,
35:02
Speaker 10: And I was there as soon as I saw that,
35:05
Speaker 10: I was like, this movie makes complete sense. This is
35:10
Speaker 10: what the movie is about. And when you look at it,
35:14
Speaker 10: like Jack is writing, you know, whenever they think that giant,
35:20
Speaker 10: Wendy thinks that he's writing a book the entire time,
35:22
Speaker 10: and then she goes and finds out that he's just reading,
35:24
Speaker 10: He's just typing out the same sentence over and over
35:26
Speaker 10: and over again. He's she sees a stack of papers
35:29
Speaker 10: that are like this big that just has the same
35:31
Speaker 10: words in different patterns on on on the page. That's
35:35
Speaker 10: psychic that's psychic driving. That's an mk ultra technique. You
35:40
Speaker 10: pound the same thing into somebody's head over and over
35:44
Speaker 10: and over again to get them to believe in something,
35:46
Speaker 10: to get them to do something. It's the same way
35:49
Speaker 10: with Sir Hand, Sirhan, the gentleman that supposedly killed RFK.
35:54
Speaker 10: He was writing the same form of thing, rfkmist Die,
35:57
Speaker 10: rfkmist die, over and over and over again. You can
36:00
Speaker 10: get online and look at his notebook where it's just
36:03
Speaker 10: scribbled in there hundreds of times.
36:06
Speaker 9: Right, and you can you can even look up doctor
36:09
Speaker 9: Ewan Cameron, who's the one that sort of gave that
36:12
Speaker 9: a name of psychic driving. And that's one of the
36:15
Speaker 9: very few handful of m K culture cases that the
36:20
Speaker 9: people were able to successfully sue the government in order
36:23
Speaker 9: to uncover some of those records as part of the
36:25
Speaker 9: church hearings. I believe that came out and then all
36:28
Speaker 9: of a sudden they start paying people off about that,
36:31
Speaker 9: but yeah, that one's crazy. There was even a movie
36:33
Speaker 9: called The Sleep Room that I think was like a
36:35
Speaker 9: straight to a TV movie in Canada about this exact thing.
36:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, that happened in Canada and dark Hugh and Cameron
36:45
Speaker 10: got a lot of those techniques from the from the
36:48
Speaker 10: Nazi UH from basically Nazi Germany, because that's where a
36:52
Speaker 10: lot of it MK Ultra sort of started, was in
36:57
Speaker 10: Nazi Germany. And then when we brought all the the
37:01
Speaker 10: Project Paper Club people, over all the Nazi scientists and
37:03
Speaker 10: Nazi space engineers and all that into the United States,
37:05
Speaker 10: we started running these own experiments on our own. And
37:09
Speaker 10: then whenever it was kind of getting a little bit
37:12
Speaker 10: hot for the CIA to be running these experiments within
37:16
Speaker 10: the United States, that's whenever they started subleasing them out
37:19
Speaker 10: to other countries. And Canada was one of those really
37:23
Speaker 10: big countries that got a lot of those those types
37:26
Speaker 10: of experiments going on out there. Yes, Psyche driving very real.
37:32
Speaker 10: It was mainly done with a looped recorded audio tape
37:37
Speaker 10: that they would put in there so they would basically
37:39
Speaker 10: torture individuals, you know, depattern them, which depatterning is another
37:45
Speaker 10: really a famous mind control technique, which is really releases
37:51
Speaker 10: any and all normal thought patterns in your brain through
37:54
Speaker 10: torture and trauma. And then they would throw in the
37:57
Speaker 10: looped audio message and make these people believe whatever they
38:01
Speaker 10: wanted them to believe.
38:04
Speaker 8: You know, I'm always curious about Stanley Kubrick's motivations for
38:08
Speaker 8: these things, because he was clearly every every single one
38:12
Speaker 8: of his movies. Well, I wouldn't say I don't know
38:13
Speaker 8: about every single one of them, but the ones that
38:15
Speaker 8: come to mind are very fucking esoteric, right, He's showing
38:20
Speaker 8: so many little hidden symbols in them. And I've had
38:24
Speaker 8: a few conversations on the show with people that think
38:27
Speaker 8: he was a good guy. I've had people that think
38:29
Speaker 8: he was a fucking horrible piece of shit. I'm curious, writer,
38:32
Speaker 8: what do you think his motivations were and what do
38:34
Speaker 8: you think about Stanley Kubrick as a man?
38:38
Speaker 10: Well, I watched a lot of footage, oh Stanley Kubrick.
38:43
Speaker 10: I tried to find a lot of interviews and a
38:45
Speaker 10: lot of but he did very few interviews. He didn't
38:48
Speaker 10: do hardly in any interviews because he didn't want to
38:50
Speaker 10: spoil his movie and what his movie is really about,
38:53
Speaker 10: because he wanted the audience to create their own interpretation
38:56
Speaker 10: of the movie. He didn't want to spoon feed the
38:59
Speaker 10: audience with the movie was really about. He wanted them
39:01
Speaker 10: to put two and two together on their own to
39:03
Speaker 10: create their own theories and their own hypothesis of what
39:06
Speaker 10: the movie was about. So it's very difficult to find
39:09
Speaker 10: any interviews with him in it where he's actually, hey.
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40:39
Speaker 7: The kind of family cloud is good medicine talking about things.
40:44
Speaker 10: And it's also a famous thing that Stanley Kubrick would do,
40:48
Speaker 10: was any of the outtakes or any of the extra
40:53
Speaker 10: scenes that he shot, he would destroy them. You would
40:57
Speaker 10: burn them, get rid of them, however you would get
40:59
Speaker 10: rid of the film. I'm guessing probably burned them. But
41:03
Speaker 10: there was an ending to the Shining that hardly anyone
41:08
Speaker 10: even knows about because it was cut from the film.
41:11
Speaker 10: And the only evidence that we have of that is
41:16
Speaker 10: that there were the script got leaked to the end
41:21
Speaker 10: scene that was cut out from the movie. And the
41:24
Speaker 10: end scene of the movie really tells you about the
41:29
Speaker 10: entire movie. It tells you exactly what it is. And
41:34
Speaker 10: Cubreic watching the test screenings of The Shining in the theaters,
41:39
Speaker 10: was realizing that the audience was just getting up and
41:42
Speaker 10: leaving after the movie was over with this original ending
41:45
Speaker 10: still in there, and so he had his editor or
41:53
Speaker 10: his editor's producer go to the theaters and splice the
41:57
Speaker 10: ending of the film, and that's how we get the
42:00
Speaker 10: famous ending of the film where Jack is, you know,
42:03
Speaker 10: basically frozen and he's dead. And then the camera zooms
42:07
Speaker 10: in on the pictures on the wall, and then a
42:08
Speaker 10: zooms into a closer out picture of Jack, which I'm
42:11
Speaker 10: not the first one to see this either, but it's
42:13
Speaker 10: really important, which goes into what our entire movie is about.
42:18
Speaker 10: For a split second, whenever the camera fades into the
42:21
Speaker 10: close up picture of Jack from the far away picture
42:24
Speaker 10: of Jack, for a split second, you can see a
42:27
Speaker 10: tiny Hitler mustache beginning to form on Jack's face. So
42:33
Speaker 10: as Kubrick as a person, I'm not really too sure
42:37
Speaker 10: because there's very little to figure out about him, Like
42:43
Speaker 10: it's very difficult because he didn't do a lot of
42:45
Speaker 10: stuff other than his movies, and some people, some of
42:49
Speaker 10: the actors didn't like him, like Challow Duvall obviously did
42:54
Speaker 10: not like him. Sue Lyon, which was the lead actress
42:58
Speaker 10: in Lolita as a wild film. We talk about it
43:01
Speaker 10: in a clockwork Shining, but basically the same thing that
43:06
Speaker 10: happened to Shelley Duval later on happened previously with Sue
43:12
Speaker 10: Lyon in Lolita. Kubrick's producer was having sex with Sue
43:21
Speaker 10: Lyon whenever she was fourteen years old, and she's in
43:23
Speaker 10: this movie, and this entire movie is basically about pedophilia.
43:28
Speaker 10: So in real life, she was having sex with a
43:33
Speaker 10: man that is like this is like thirty five forty
43:36
Speaker 10: years old, and she's fourteen years old, and this completely
43:39
Speaker 10: destroyed her, wrecked her career and basically got her into
43:44
Speaker 10: the exact same state. And she didn't do any as
43:47
Speaker 10: Shelley Duval, and she didn't do anything after Lolita either,
43:50
Speaker 10: So Kubrick had like this track record of either completely
43:55
Speaker 10: destroying the actors or turning them into super stars. It
44:00
Speaker 10: was either one or the other. But the ending to
44:05
Speaker 10: the Shining is a really interesting thing, and we show
44:09
Speaker 10: the pictures. There are pictures of the original ending to
44:13
Speaker 10: the Shining as well. Out there there's like maybe a
44:16
Speaker 10: handful like ten or so pictures of the original ending
44:21
Speaker 10: to the Shining, and there's the script, so we pretty
44:26
Speaker 10: much talk about what that inding was, like, what that
44:28
Speaker 10: ending meant, and it aligns with our analysis of the movie.
44:35
Speaker 8: I sometimes wonder how Stanley Kubrick got a pass, how
44:40
Speaker 8: he was able to do this, and then finally it
44:42
Speaker 8: seems like Eyes White Sheet was a bridge too far.
44:45
Speaker 8: He revealed a little too much and that was a
44:49
Speaker 8: wrap for Stanley Kubrick.
44:53
Speaker 20: Yeah.
44:53
Speaker 8: Man, it is super super fascinating, and I don't know.
44:57
Speaker 8: I do try to think about his motive with these things,
45:01
Speaker 8: because obviously he had some deep knowledge. There were clearly
45:06
Speaker 8: some connections there that he had. Do you guys touch
45:09
Speaker 8: on any of that, any connections that he might have
45:12
Speaker 8: had with like governmental or any of that sort of things.
45:15
Speaker 10: Yes, we do. We have a document from the US
45:18
Speaker 10: Information Agency within the movie that basically verifies that Kubrick
45:23
Speaker 10: was being sought after by the government for some unknown
45:26
Speaker 10: project along with four other famous film directors. And it
45:32
Speaker 10: says in the document that Kubrick is a list four
45:37
Speaker 10: other film famous film directors and it also has Stanley
45:40
Speaker 10: Kubrick on there, and the line under it says that
45:44
Speaker 10: Stanley Kubrick, out of the other film directors that are
45:48
Speaker 10: being recommended, Stanley Kubrick is the most promising. So he's
45:53
Speaker 10: basically the best out of this group of film directors
45:57
Speaker 10: that they want for this unknown project. And the project
46:00
Speaker 10: doesn't stated in the document. We don't know what the
46:02
Speaker 10: project was, right, It was just that they were looking
46:05
Speaker 10: at these film directors for some kind of governmental program.
46:10
Speaker 9: What year was the document from.
46:14
Speaker 10: It was right around the time of the Moonlight I
46:16
Speaker 10: think it was nineteen sixty five, I believe.
46:19
Speaker 9: So enough time for it to be realistically tied to.
46:26
Speaker 7: The moon landing.
46:27
Speaker 10: Yes, it is. I would have to find I have
46:30
Speaker 10: to pull up some find.
46:32
Speaker 9: The government would want him to be working on if
46:34
Speaker 9: it weren't if it weren't the moon landing.
46:36
Speaker 10: Exactly, I don't know. I mean, there was a lot
46:41
Speaker 10: of stuff that was going on Lookout Mountain at that time.
46:46
Speaker 10: I mean, the government was filming, you know, hundreds of
46:52
Speaker 10: films up there that nobody really knows what they were for.
46:55
Speaker 10: Some people say that they were like training videos and
46:57
Speaker 10: like military videos and stuff, but no one really knows.
47:01
Speaker 10: But there was more films that were filmed up there
47:05
Speaker 10: by the government and by the military than all the
47:09
Speaker 10: films combined in Hollywood up until that point. So who
47:14
Speaker 10: knows what they were doing up there. There was a
47:17
Speaker 10: giant there was multiple film stages, there was multiple recording studios,
47:23
Speaker 10: there was a freaking helicopter landing pad. There was an
47:27
Speaker 10: underground nuclear bunker on the property.
47:32
Speaker 9: Did and you mentioned in Marilyn Monroe before, which is
47:35
Speaker 9: she known to actually have gone here too, or she
47:37
Speaker 9: just happened to have a top z of your clearance that.
47:41
Speaker 10: I'm not one hundred percent sure on. Mark Devlin would
47:43
Speaker 10: know more about that. He's the one that mentions that
47:46
Speaker 10: in the documentary. I'm not one sure, but I'm pretty
47:51
Speaker 10: sure that it is confirmed that she had like clearance
47:54
Speaker 10: to be there, So I would highly doubt that she
47:58
Speaker 10: would have clearance, so she never have went there.
48:02
Speaker 9: Nate brought up one of the things that I'm always
48:05
Speaker 9: curious about. I don't really I don't even know if
48:08
Speaker 9: we would ever find out if Stanley Kubrick was like
48:10
Speaker 9: white hat black hat, because that means you'd have to
48:12
Speaker 9: get into his head and know his intentions, and he
48:15
Speaker 9: was so good at disguising everything. We might never really
48:18
Speaker 9: know that unless someone finds some damning like like autobiography
48:22
Speaker 9: that got hidden somewhere. But I do always wonder how
48:25
Speaker 9: much of Eyes Wide Shut that the public saw was
48:29
Speaker 9: part of his final vision, because I've heard even even
48:32
Speaker 9: within like the conspiracy world, on a full spectrum of
48:37
Speaker 9: you know, his original cut was so shocking that they
48:40
Speaker 9: decided they needed to off him and edit it all
48:43
Speaker 9: the way to like no one really cared, and you know,
48:46
Speaker 9: they might have had some notes for him, and then
48:48
Speaker 9: that he was just sick and he died from being sick,
48:51
Speaker 9: Like where are you at on that spectrum?
48:54
Speaker 10: Well, there's a lot of the only people that would
48:56
Speaker 10: really know that would be the would be Warner Brothers,
48:59
Speaker 10: film director of film personnel and high upside Warner Brothers,
49:04
Speaker 10: and the actors within the movie. Because he died a
49:07
Speaker 10: few days after he had given a screening to well
49:12
Speaker 10: and his family members. He died a few days after
49:15
Speaker 10: he given that screening to the actors that are within
49:19
Speaker 10: as Wide Shot and his family, So really the only
49:22
Speaker 10: people that would actually know that the film was any
49:25
Speaker 10: different than the one the public saw would be them.
49:29
Speaker 10: So I guess we'd have to somehow interview Tom Cruise.
49:32
Speaker 10: Let's get Tom Cruise on the show and ask him.
49:35
Speaker 10: I'm sure Tom Cruise would definitely remember what he saw.
49:38
Speaker 10: But then that's another like really traumatic event because he's
49:42
Speaker 10: supposedly died of a heart attack. That's the official story
49:46
Speaker 10: that after he showed this film to his friends and family,
49:49
Speaker 10: did a screening for them, a few days later, he
49:52
Speaker 10: passed away of a heart attack, and that's a very
49:55
Speaker 10: traumatic thing too, so for all the people that are
49:59
Speaker 10: in so they maybe they thought that they saw something
50:03
Speaker 10: different and then they really didn't, or maybe they really
50:05
Speaker 10: did see something different and then it was different than
50:08
Speaker 10: what they saw when that movie actually got released. But
50:12
Speaker 10: there's been several ones like that. When The Shining was released,
50:15
Speaker 10: it was released in like it was either in the
50:19
Speaker 10: UK or maybe it was the UK that they did
50:24
Speaker 10: like a shorter cut version release of The Shining, And
50:28
Speaker 10: then they also did the same thing with the Clockwork
50:30
Speaker 10: Orange as well. They cut they did like a lower
50:34
Speaker 10: cut of A Clockwork Orange when it got released, because
50:36
Speaker 10: there was so much, so many problems surrounding A Clockwork
50:41
Speaker 10: Orange where they were having like real crime and real
50:46
Speaker 10: people going out and like hurting people and like there
50:50
Speaker 10: was several murders surrounding the release of A Clockwork A
50:56
Speaker 10: Clockwork Orange, so it had real life cushions. So then
51:01
Speaker 10: Kubrick was like, oh, well, we're going to edit it
51:04
Speaker 10: down or I think I got completely banned Where that was,
51:08
Speaker 10: I would have to look it up. But there's been
51:10
Speaker 10: several several instances like that where his films have been
51:14
Speaker 10: cut and edited and released in different ways, you know,
51:19
Speaker 10: throughout the years.
51:22
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, A Clockwork Orange was very influential for me
51:25
Speaker 8: when I was a young When I was a young
51:27
Speaker 8: man watching it, I definitely like saw myself in the
51:31
Speaker 8: main character and just wanted to commit chaos and we
51:35
Speaker 8: did a lot of I mean that and c Ky
51:37
Speaker 8: were very influential in my young my young years. We
51:42
Speaker 8: definitely we didn't hear.
51:44
Speaker 9: The reason that people should needed to ban it from
51:46
Speaker 9: movie theaters is what you're saying.
51:47
Speaker 8: Yeah, dude, I'm the demographic. It is interesting, man, because
51:51
Speaker 8: I mean, how much of that movie, like how it
51:54
Speaker 8: affected people, like you were saying before that like the
51:58
Speaker 8: audience was part of the experiment. I mean, there could
52:01
Speaker 8: have been some serious things in a clockwork Orange that
52:04
Speaker 8: just my dumb, little, young, stupid, testosterone filled mind just
52:10
Speaker 8: glombed onto it. I was like, yeah, chaos, you.
52:13
Speaker 10: Know, yeah, it makes you more susceptible to it. And
52:16
Speaker 10: there's been reports from people watching The Shining and having
52:20
Speaker 10: like horrible nightmares and like horrible dreams after they watch
52:23
Speaker 10: it and when they go to sleep. Has happened to me.
52:26
Speaker 10: A few of my friends have has had it happen
52:30
Speaker 10: to them as well. So there's something subliminally within the movie,
52:34
Speaker 10: and it probably has something to do with the soundtrack
52:37
Speaker 10: of the movie and the music in there as well.
52:40
Speaker 10: Like there because it's a really creepy, haunting type of movie,
52:44
Speaker 10: which is so interesting that it's even really a horror
52:48
Speaker 10: movie at all, because there's nothing that that even can
52:52
Speaker 10: be considered horror until the last like thirty minutes of
52:55
Speaker 10: the movie, you know, the rest of it is like
53:00
Speaker 10: only one person dies in the entire movie, you know,
53:06
Speaker 10: But there's a there's so much interesting things that I
53:11
Speaker 10: don't think that a lot of people have really put
53:13
Speaker 10: two and two together with. Like the first time that
53:16
Speaker 10: we see Wendy and Danny in the movie, uh, she's
53:22
Speaker 10: reading a book called Ketcher in the Rye. You guys
53:26
Speaker 10: familiar with Ketcher and the Rye and yes, and that
53:31
Speaker 10: book has been, uh, you know, been touted by researchers
53:34
Speaker 10: as to be a mk ultra type mind control trigger
53:38
Speaker 10: for assassins. I mean, you had two major assassinations that
53:43
Speaker 10: happened within a year of the release of The Shining,
53:46
Speaker 10: which was one of them was an attempted assassination on
53:49
Speaker 10: Ronald Reagan and the other one was John Lennon, and
53:54
Speaker 10: they were both both of.
53:55
Speaker 8: The I'm all on board for John Lennon, just saying, sorry,
54:00
Speaker 8: keep going, I hate the Beatles, John Lennon, that dirty hippy.
54:05
Speaker 10: Now. I'm just joking, John Lennon. It's okay, buddy.
54:08
Speaker 8: I'm mostly kidding right now.
54:13
Speaker 10: But the Catcher in the Riot has been synonymous with
54:16
Speaker 10: this uh M, k Ultra type mind control programming trigger,
54:21
Speaker 10: and it's in The Shining And what does Jack do
54:28
Speaker 10: through basically the entire movie's trying to kill his family.
54:35
Speaker 10: So I was like, people, really, uh, they never really
54:40
Speaker 10: mentioned that at all, And I think that it's a
54:43
Speaker 10: really important factor that ties into our our theory of
54:50
Speaker 10: what The Shining is really about.
54:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, uh, so give us a non spoiler version
55:00
Speaker 8: of what this movie is really about, if you can
55:06
Speaker 8: wellout giving too much away.
55:09
Speaker 10: That trailer that we played earlier is pretty much the
55:13
Speaker 10: best way to really explain the movie without getting into
55:21
Speaker 10: wild and crazy details. It's not only like a movie
55:27
Speaker 10: about the Shining and a clockwork orange and you know,
55:30
Speaker 10: giving a new theory to the Shining, because there hasn't
55:33
Speaker 10: been a new theory to the Shining in a really
55:36
Speaker 10: long time. People have watched this shit out of this movie.
55:39
Speaker 10: They've come up with anything and everything that they could
55:41
Speaker 10: possibly come up with, and I hear I come along
55:45
Speaker 10: and create something new. But it's not just about the Shining.
55:49
Speaker 10: It's about the music industry of the sixties. It's about
55:53
Speaker 10: Laurel Canyon, it's about Hollywood, it's about filmmaking, it's about
55:57
Speaker 10: MK Ultra, it's about the intelligence community. And that's another
56:01
Speaker 10: really big shock.
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Speaker 10: I personally believe within the movie A Clockwork Shining is
57:44
Speaker 10: that we really lay everything out for you see a
57:46
Speaker 10: lot of people know that the music industry has been
57:49
Speaker 10: controlled by the CIA and the intelligence community for a
57:52
Speaker 10: really long time, but they haven't seen it in the
57:54
Speaker 10: way that we present it. And I think that that's
57:57
Speaker 10: a really big shock for people because it really explains
58:02
Speaker 10: the reason why you can be really good at any
58:06
Speaker 10: given thing, you know what I mean, Like, you can
58:08
Speaker 10: be the best freaking singer in the world, but if
58:13
Speaker 10: you don't know the right people, if you're not a
58:16
Speaker 10: part of the right family, if you don't have those connections,
58:21
Speaker 10: then you're never gonna get anywhere. And it's pretty much
58:25
Speaker 10: the same with the film industry. And when you go
58:27
Speaker 10: back and you look through all these bands that started
58:30
Speaker 10: coming up in the sixties. Almost every single one of
58:34
Speaker 10: them verbatim, came from military families. Their dads are all
58:42
Speaker 10: high ranking military personnel. Jim Morrison's dad, that's the one
58:48
Speaker 10: that people are probably the most familiar with. He basically
58:52
Speaker 10: started the Vietnam War. He was a part of that
58:55
Speaker 10: false flag incident that started the Vietnam War. Jim Morrison's
59:00
Speaker 10: dad of the doors.
59:02
Speaker 9: Bob Marley's dad, Admiral of Gulf of Tonkin.
59:06
Speaker 17: That was.
59:10
Speaker 10: Bob Marley's dad was a British naval officer. The Manson
59:18
Speaker 10: Tate murders. What's her name?
59:22
Speaker 20: Oh ship?
59:23
Speaker 10: Something just popped up here.
59:25
Speaker 9: Sharon Tate.
59:25
Speaker 10: You mean Sharon Tate, Yes, Sharon Tate. Her dad was
59:29
Speaker 10: a high ranking military officer.
59:33
Speaker 9: I've heard, and I don't know enough details in this.
59:36
Speaker 9: I wonder if you're familiar that Stanley Kubrick and Jack
59:39
Speaker 9: Nicholson had some sort of falling out or or the
59:43
Speaker 9: limo driver for Jack Nicholson at some point told Stanley
59:47
Speaker 9: Kubrick that he would never drive Jack Nicholson again after
59:51
Speaker 9: something happened. Have you ever heard this? Do you do
59:54
Speaker 9: you know what the something is?
59:56
Speaker 10: No? I have not heard that, but I would I
59:58
Speaker 10: would like to look into it more. And that's that's
1:00:01
Speaker 10: really interesting.
1:00:02
Speaker 9: That's my friend David Charles played, I believe is the
1:00:05
Speaker 9: one that introduced me to that. I just wish I
1:00:08
Speaker 9: knew it. And the other one too, was that again
1:00:11
Speaker 9: linking to the tape murders, that Roman Polanski, the big
1:00:16
Speaker 9: thing that got him basically kicked out of the country
1:00:19
Speaker 9: so that he can't come back or at least not
1:00:22
Speaker 9: you know, publicly, was actually occurred at Jack Nicholson's house.
1:00:27
Speaker 10: Yeah, Roman Polanski raped a thirteen year old girl or
1:00:30
Speaker 10: an underage girl and he had to flee the country.
1:00:32
Speaker 10: That's factual, that's right.
1:00:34
Speaker 9: And my understanding is it was not only was it
1:00:36
Speaker 9: at Jack Nicholson's house, but Jack Nicholson kind of like
1:00:39
Speaker 9: arranged the whole thing in order to happen.
1:00:43
Speaker 10: That I'm unsure on, but with him being with an
1:00:48
Speaker 10: underage girl then having to flee the country for a
1:00:50
Speaker 10: persecution and then for being prosecuted and would serve a
1:00:55
Speaker 10: really big prison sentence, Jack Nicholson also simultaneously left the
1:01:01
Speaker 10: country to go film the training, so they both just
1:01:06
Speaker 10: like dipped out. But that that story is accurate, that
1:01:11
Speaker 10: did happen, Now I don't know if like you were
1:01:14
Speaker 10: mentioning that Jack Nicholson had some kind of arrangement in
1:01:18
Speaker 10: this thing that was going on there or not, But
1:01:21
Speaker 10: it was Jack Nicholson's house one hundred percent.
1:01:26
Speaker 8: It's interesting, man. It seems like I was gonna say,
1:01:29
Speaker 8: it seems like Hollywood had this. It was Hollywood, it
1:01:33
Speaker 8: was the music industry. It was tied into the CIA,
1:01:37
Speaker 8: and it seemed like they had this golden era around
1:01:39
Speaker 8: the sixties, seventies, early eighties and things like that. But
1:01:44
Speaker 8: I guess it's still happening now. It is kind of
1:01:46
Speaker 8: fascinating watching things come out, Like there's more and more
1:01:52
Speaker 8: wild accusations that are happening with like P Diddy, for instance,
1:01:57
Speaker 8: there is like I was seeing to a video last night,
1:02:01
Speaker 8: So there's a lady that is a whistleblower that's explaining that,
1:02:05
Speaker 8: like this sounds awful that both of P. Diddy's sons
1:02:10
Speaker 8: like gang raped Justin. There's all allegations right allegedly allegedly
1:02:15
Speaker 8: allegedly gang raped Justin Bieber. There was there was also
1:02:22
Speaker 8: reports of like a former president also having sex with
1:02:28
Speaker 8: underage girls at one of his parties. There's some weird
1:02:31
Speaker 8: stuff that I think is really going to come out.
1:02:33
Speaker 8: Do you think that this is like kind of planned.
1:02:38
Speaker 8: Do you think that they're like letting this stuff come
1:02:40
Speaker 8: out or is stuff just is it just too hard
1:02:43
Speaker 8: to hide their wild shit anymore?
1:02:48
Speaker 10: I personally don't believe that anything is going to come
1:02:50
Speaker 10: from the Didty case, just like nothing came from the
1:02:53
Speaker 10: Harvey Weinstein case. Nothing came from Jeffrey Epstein case. You know,
1:02:59
Speaker 10: nothing in the just Laine Maxwell case. It's the same
1:03:04
Speaker 10: thing in like repeating cycles, and they've hit all of
1:03:07
Speaker 10: the different industries. They've completed the industry circle jerk there,
1:03:14
Speaker 10: you know. The first one was the movie industry, the
1:03:16
Speaker 10: second one was like politicians and political people. The third
1:03:21
Speaker 10: one was I think there was another person in there,
1:03:23
Speaker 10: isn't there there's somebody else in between Epstein and and Diddy.
1:03:28
Speaker 10: I'm blinking on who it is. But now they have
1:03:31
Speaker 10: the music industry. So it's like they've made this full
1:03:34
Speaker 10: sweep of all the people. And look what happened with
1:03:37
Speaker 10: the Jeffrey Epstein thing, Like people were like, oh, well,
1:03:40
Speaker 10: he was the only one, he was the only one
1:03:42
Speaker 10: doing this, and we've taken him out. Everything's fine now,
1:03:45
Speaker 10: everything's okay, you know, and.
1:03:46
Speaker 8: That's what I'm going to do with this P.
1:03:48
Speaker 10: Diddy situation as well. They're gonna be like, he was
1:03:50
Speaker 10: the only one doing these weird this weird stuff, and
1:03:53
Speaker 10: nobody's going to go down for it. It's exactly what
1:03:57
Speaker 10: has happened time and time over and over again. Nothing's
1:04:01
Speaker 10: going to come of it. They just take the most
1:04:04
Speaker 10: popular guy off off the top because maybe he was
1:04:06
Speaker 10: getting too jumpy, maybe he was getting too snippy, maybe
1:04:10
Speaker 10: he was thinking that he runs the whole joint, you
1:04:14
Speaker 10: know what I mean, but he really doesn't. So they
1:04:16
Speaker 10: just take him off at the head.
1:04:19
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, man. Yeah. And it also
1:04:22
Speaker 8: kind of releases it to the publics and the public
1:04:25
Speaker 8: is kind of used to that, and so when the
1:04:26
Speaker 8: next thing comes out, they're like, oh, we already kind
1:04:28
Speaker 8: of knew about that. Yeah, they're all dirty, that sort
1:04:31
Speaker 8: of thing. So it's not shocking anymore, and the public
1:04:33
Speaker 8: doesn't there's no giant public outrage. I mean, we should
1:04:37
Speaker 8: get to the bottom of it, Like, why the fuck
1:04:40
Speaker 8: don't we still have the like Jeffrey Epstein flight logs,
1:04:44
Speaker 8: Why is that not public knowledge?
1:04:46
Speaker 9: Well, I think all of the things that are happening,
1:04:49
Speaker 9: are happening behind the scenes, because it seems that, like
1:04:52
Speaker 9: my version of blackpail I guess is that like the
1:04:55
Speaker 9: oil that runs the engine of politics is all blackmail,
1:04:58
Speaker 9: Like it's always been blackmail. When someone gets popped or
1:05:01
Speaker 9: something comes to light, there's like a restructuring, like political
1:05:05
Speaker 9: capital gets exchanged behind the scenes. And that's the exact
1:05:08
Speaker 9: reason we don't see any results of it is because
1:05:09
Speaker 9: those deals have been made. It's sort of like they
1:05:12
Speaker 9: they've pled guilty, but out of court, like it doesn't
1:05:15
Speaker 9: make it to the public courts, and then essentially someone
1:05:18
Speaker 9: just now owns that rolodex. It's like, oh, okay, well
1:05:21
Speaker 9: you can take this part like they kind of like
1:05:23
Speaker 9: divvy up the assets and continue that thing going. Because
1:05:27
Speaker 9: if everyone came down and all the blackmail was exposed,
1:05:31
Speaker 9: then everyone's political capital kind of evaporates, and we don't
1:05:34
Speaker 9: have a system that knows how to run independent of blackmail.
1:05:42
Speaker 8: You find out that if you were to find out
1:05:45
Speaker 8: that it was everyone everyone in the high level and
1:05:49
Speaker 8: politics for my guy, everyone, yeah, everyone except for our
1:05:54
Speaker 8: Lord and Savior, Donald Trump. He wants to be his
1:05:57
Speaker 8: name squeaky clean. Yeah, his name, Hey listen.
1:06:04
Speaker 10: I hope, so, I hope. I hope that that piece
1:06:09
Speaker 10: will come. But who knows, you know, it might be
1:06:13
Speaker 10: another nothing burger, might be something real. I mean, the
1:06:18
Speaker 10: only real hope that I have with the whole situation
1:06:22
Speaker 10: is like RFK Jr. And people can talk shit about
1:06:25
Speaker 10: rf K Junior all they want, don't really care. I
1:06:26
Speaker 10: think that he's a really solid guy who followed him
1:06:28
Speaker 10: since he decided to run for president and the Democrats
1:06:31
Speaker 10: basically kicked him out right. If Trump wouldn't have RFK Jr.
1:06:37
Speaker 10: Like on a side, then I would be in total agreement.
1:06:41
Speaker 10: I would say this is just a big, huge sham.
1:06:44
Speaker 10: But I think that r f K Junior is a
1:06:46
Speaker 10: very honest individual and he's he's going to try at
1:06:51
Speaker 10: least try and do the things that he said that
1:06:53
Speaker 10: he's going to do. Now for everybody else that's involved,
1:06:58
Speaker 10: it's up in the air. Who knows.
1:07:00
Speaker 9: But I think because RFK is involved, that we might
1:07:03
Speaker 9: have a better chance of the JFK paper is actually
1:07:05
Speaker 9: being released.
1:07:07
Speaker 13: Well.
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Speaker 10: Trump has said that several times that if he if
1:07:09
Speaker 10: he gets in the office, that's one of the first
1:07:11
Speaker 10: things that he's going to do is release all of
1:07:13
Speaker 10: the JFK files. That's been uh, that's been promised several times,
1:07:19
Speaker 10: so I'm not holding my breath on that at all.
1:07:22
Speaker 10: So I don't know. I think that if if it
1:07:30
Speaker 10: does happen, I will definitely be surprised, And it might
1:07:33
Speaker 10: be a push for him to do that since you know,
1:07:37
Speaker 10: RFK will be holding some form h he'll have a
1:07:40
Speaker 10: direct dialogue and running some form of office within the
1:07:43
Speaker 10: government with Trump. But yeah, I think that that might
1:07:47
Speaker 10: be our only saving grace because everything the RFK says
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1:07:52
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1:08:05
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Speaker 10: About the credit cards about a credit card size worth
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Speaker 10: of plastic every week, and that's from the food. So
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Speaker 10: what is that plastic doing to us? Like in all
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Speaker 10: the things that's in the water, like all the medications
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Speaker 10: that's in the water, Like top water is recycled water
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Speaker 10: like it doesn't get anything, is filtered out. So you're
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Speaker 10: into the drinking water, and you get all the pharmaceutical
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Speaker 10: medications in there. Got high amounts of birth control and
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Speaker 10: the water supply. You got fluoride and the water supply, right, Antidepressants, antipsychotics,
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Speaker 10: a whole host of medications is in the water. So
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Speaker 10: I think that if we can, if there's some kind
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Speaker 10: of chance that some of that can actually be cleaned up,
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Speaker 10: then like I'm I'm one for it.
1:10:45
Speaker 9: I think they were to take the pharmaceuticals out of
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Speaker 9: the water. Though, then how do those without healthcare get
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Speaker 9: access to cheap pharmaceuticals.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I love you, Thomas H.
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Speaker 9: I don't know, man, you love the little people that
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Speaker 9: tend to get ignored in these big decisions.
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Speaker 10: I know you're joking, but I don't have anything to say, like,
1:11:21
Speaker 10: I don't know. Like I don't drink top water, so
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Speaker 10: I have no fucking clue. Drink filtered water, so I
1:11:27
Speaker 10: don't get, you know, through an osmosis system, so I
1:11:31
Speaker 10: don't get all that shit. That's what everyone should be doing.
1:11:35
Speaker 10: Don't heat it up either, Like heating it up if
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Speaker 10: it's not filtered out doesn't have a lot of the
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Speaker 10: fluorite and the pharmaceuticals out of it. It just makes
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Speaker 10: all that stuff even stronger. I don't know why anybody
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Speaker 10: would ever be drinking top water.
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Speaker 8: Yeah. We switched over to a burkie a few years ago,
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Speaker 8: and it still as sounds me like, when I'm filling
1:11:57
Speaker 8: up my burkie, the it's smells like a goddamn public pool.
1:12:03
Speaker 8: There's so much chlorine in the water. It blows my mind.
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Speaker 10: Chlorine smells bad. I think that we should go back
1:12:11
Speaker 10: to freaking wells. I think everyone should just dig a
1:12:13
Speaker 10: well in their freaking backyard and just tap into the
1:12:16
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Speaker 8: Water in ice.
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Speaker 10: But then there's other issues too, Like you know, even
1:12:25
Speaker 10: if you're not drinking the water, you're still getting the
1:12:27
Speaker 10: water through the You're taking a shower in the water,
1:12:30
Speaker 10: You're washing your clothes in the water. So it's really unavoidable.
1:12:33
Speaker 10: But I'm going to try and at least not drink it,
1:12:36
Speaker 10: at least not have it inside of my body.
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Speaker 8: It's the things that people don't think about either, because
1:12:41
Speaker 8: just how fucking poisonous, how toxic. The things we use
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Speaker 8: to clean our houses, The things that we use to
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1:12:52
Speaker 8: our human odor, right like all those deodorants, all the shampoos,
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Speaker 8: all the body wash. Dude, can uh.
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Speaker 10: a really big one because that's like the most sensitive
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Speaker 10: part of your your skin and it absorbs really quickly.
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Speaker 10: So if they're just putting nothing but aluminium and heavy
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1:13:29
Speaker 8: So I mean, we could talk a little bit about that.
1:13:31
Speaker 8: I mean, the government isn't stupid. They some of them
1:13:37
Speaker 8: are like the puppets they put in front of us,
1:13:38
Speaker 8: like Kamala, Cunt Harris and all those dumb asses like
1:13:42
Speaker 8: those are the dummies that they put in front of us.
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Speaker 9: Well, we don't want to alien at half of the
1:13:46
Speaker 9: country here, Nate, calm down.
1:13:49
Speaker 8: But uh, dude, they know that fluoride makes you stupid.
1:13:55
Speaker 8: They know that pesticides are bad for you. They know
1:13:58
Speaker 8: the heavy metals and the deodoran bad for you, and
1:14:01
Speaker 8: they just do it anyways. And you can look at
1:14:03
Speaker 8: something like skittles in the United States as opposed to
1:14:06
Speaker 8: skittles in the UK or in Europe and things like that,
1:14:09
Speaker 8: they don't allow the same shit in them. But in
1:14:12
Speaker 8: America we get the full cocktail of all the fucking
1:14:15
Speaker 8: weird dyes and bullshit in a in a weird way,
1:14:20
Speaker 8: like for supposed to be the most powerful empire in
1:14:23
Speaker 8: the fucking world, we mistreat our own people like crazy, dude.
1:14:29
Speaker 9: Well, you mentioned fluoride and fluoride I think myself, but
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Speaker 9: a lot of people the first time that they came
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Speaker 9: in contact with fluoride. Conspiracy was also a Kubrick film
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Speaker 9: that was Uh, Doctor Strangelove. I think that was co
1:14:44
Speaker 9: written by Terry Southern, but that, like, to me, that's
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Speaker 9: one of the most og conspiracy lures is the fact
1:14:50
Speaker 9: that they even bring it up, and I was I
1:14:53
Speaker 9: was never sure either way if Kubrick was talking about
1:14:56
Speaker 9: fluoride in the water in that movie as like a
1:14:58
Speaker 9: dig to all the stupid bumpkins that believed it, or
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Speaker 9: if that was him believing in it and putting it
1:15:04
Speaker 9: into the movie as a nod to like I'm aware.
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Speaker 10: He also has a really interesting thing in a clockwork
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Speaker 10: orange I've been trying to find it, but it's hard
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Speaker 10: for me to actually get through A Clockwork Orange now
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Speaker 10: because it's a really long movie. But there's a shot
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Speaker 10: in A Clockwork Orange that says a dream, chrome, dread
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Speaker 10: and crum. Yeah how did he know that? Shit?
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Speaker 9: Well, he knew that because that was in the original
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Speaker 9: book by Anthony Burgis, and Anthony Burgus knew that because
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Speaker 9: from Humphrey Osmond, who was the one that was funded
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Speaker 9: by the Scottish Rite to investigate that.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's really interesting that things are put into his film.
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Speaker 10: I mean he was a really realistic guy, Like he
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Speaker 10: wanted everything to be super real. He wanted the sets
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Speaker 10: to look really real. He wanted it to be like
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Speaker 10: you're actually there. He didn't want like a lot of
1:17:44
Speaker 10: fake things in there, like in the in the shining,
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Speaker 10: in that in the storage room, like all those containers
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Speaker 10: and all that food and all that stuff that's in
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Speaker 10: there is all real containers with real food and real
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Speaker 10: things are real props. They're not you know, fake staged things.
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Speaker 10: So the subliminal things that he puts into the movie
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Speaker 10: are really wild, and I don't think that there's been
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Speaker 10: another filmmaker that has actually cared enough to do that
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Speaker 10: in the way that he did it. You know, they'll
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Speaker 10: put like weird, strange things in there, but with Kubrick,
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Speaker 10: it felt like that it had a lot more meaning
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Speaker 10: behind it.
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Speaker 9: I think this is part of the Kubrick lower too,
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Speaker 9: of like how did he have the resources to stock
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Speaker 9: everything with real and rewrite things constantly and take as
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Speaker 9: long as he wanted on these movies. And that's another
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Speaker 9: one of the things that fits into that puzzle that well,
1:18:49
Speaker 9: if he was essentially working under the guys of the
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Speaker 9: government or on the government budget somehow, then he could
1:18:55
Speaker 9: afford to slow down and take his time and say,
1:18:58
Speaker 9: actually go out and buy all like out all calmet
1:19:01
Speaker 9: and bring that back, and go buy some tang and
1:19:03
Speaker 9: bring that back instead of just using what was there.
1:19:07
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's get some kool aid. Let's put it on
1:19:09
Speaker 10: top of the fridge. But I think maybe a reference
1:19:13
Speaker 10: to when did the Jim Jones thing happen? Good question late, Yeah,
1:19:26
Speaker 10: so that happened in seventy eight, So in chiny wasn't
1:19:33
Speaker 10: meaning until nineteen eighty. It he was released in nineteen eighty,
1:19:35
Speaker 10: so that could be a reference to the whole Jim
1:19:39
Speaker 10: Jones fiasco as well with the with the cool lead
1:19:43
Speaker 10: with the red kool aid on top of the fridge
1:19:46
Speaker 10: and in their apartment in Border, Colorado.
1:19:54
Speaker 8: Jim Jones was an interesting character man. He would have
1:19:59
Speaker 8: got me at one point for sure.
1:20:02
Speaker 10: Freaking cocaine bro He was just doing all the freaking
1:20:05
Speaker 10: cocaine and was going on his long ass rants and.
1:20:09
Speaker 9: He had some great point.
1:20:10
Speaker 8: He was really one of the most like progressive like
1:20:14
Speaker 8: Christian leaders though in like like in the early like fifties,
1:20:18
Speaker 8: even like he was a fifties and sixties when he
1:20:21
Speaker 8: was real young he was. He was one of these
1:20:24
Speaker 8: interesting people that like he started like preaching at twelve
1:20:27
Speaker 8: years old. He would like set up on a corner
1:20:29
Speaker 8: and just like gather people around him. He was one
1:20:31
Speaker 8: of the most talented orators. Like I mean at the
1:20:35
Speaker 8: end there it was a little rambling.
1:20:36
Speaker 9: Yeah, if you just know the last few months he
1:20:39
Speaker 9: was great.
1:20:42
Speaker 8: The government thought so dude. He had so many connections
1:20:46
Speaker 8: in government and like, and especially in the state of California.
1:20:49
Speaker 8: It was pretty damn interesting.
1:20:51
Speaker 9: Well, I always wanted I don't even know if there's
1:20:53
Speaker 9: a definitive answer to this, but like we were talking
1:20:55
Speaker 9: about James you and Cameron too, or Donald you and Cameron,
1:20:58
Speaker 9: I mean, and Jim Jones, I kind of think both
1:21:02
Speaker 9: of those where the CIA sees something happening that's crazy
1:21:06
Speaker 9: and they're like, hey, and that's crazy, let's go throw
1:21:09
Speaker 9: some more fuel on that fire. I don't I'm just
1:21:12
Speaker 9: speaking out of opinion, but it almost seems that the
1:21:14
Speaker 9: CIA wouldn't be stocked with all these crazy idea men.
1:21:17
Speaker 9: There's only like one Sydney Gottlieb coming up with like
1:21:19
Speaker 9: kooky ideas and like Stanley p.
1:21:22
Speaker 10: Lavelle's.
1:21:22
Speaker 9: But outside of like the OGQ and the og dirty
1:21:25
Speaker 9: tricks there, I think a lot of them were just
1:21:28
Speaker 9: tasked with reading over research papers and then some of
1:21:30
Speaker 9: them's like some guys like I think I got something here,
1:21:33
Speaker 9: sird It's like they're just playing audio over and over
1:21:36
Speaker 9: and over again. And just like that, someone in Jim
1:21:38
Speaker 9: Jones was like, Hey, this guy's got a huge following
1:21:41
Speaker 9: and he's gonna move them all out of the country.
1:21:43
Speaker 9: Let's see how this develops. Like if lys just let
1:21:46
Speaker 9: this thing ride and see how far he takes it,
1:21:48
Speaker 9: and we'll just take notes. Let's see if there's anything
1:21:51
Speaker 9: we can gleam out of this. I kind of feel
1:21:52
Speaker 9: that that's the angle more so than the CIA is, like,
1:21:55
Speaker 9: all right, we're gonna go and find a preacher. We're
1:21:58
Speaker 9: gonna mind control them, We're gonna make mind control other people.
1:22:01
Speaker 9: I think they're just like talent scouts, you know what
1:22:03
Speaker 9: I mean, Like the talent scouts teach you how to
1:22:05
Speaker 9: play baseball. He just recognizes when you're damn good at
1:22:09
Speaker 9: it and then he signs you.
1:22:12
Speaker 10: Yeah, that makes way more sense than the whole orchestration
1:22:15
Speaker 10: of all this stuff, Like they just take advantage of
1:22:18
Speaker 10: already established situations sort of almost exactly like Dave Grush
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Speaker 10: and David Korush. Sorry I get him confused with the
1:22:27
Speaker 10: UFO whistleblower, freaking Dave Dave Grush. They're very similar in names,
1:22:33
Speaker 10: which is wild. One of them, David Korush, was a
1:22:39
Speaker 10: cult leader in Wake Out and then you got me. Yeah,
1:22:43
Speaker 10: he was a really good musician. But then there's also
1:22:46
Speaker 10: a cult called the Order of the Solar Temple out
1:22:50
Speaker 10: of Geneva, Switzerland that sort of had the same hallmarks
1:22:55
Speaker 10: of well, it was really an elitist cult. It was
1:22:59
Speaker 10: like they took a lot of stuff from like the
1:23:02
Speaker 10: Nice Templar, like their rituals and like free Masonic rituals
1:23:06
Speaker 10: and all that. But it had a really a lot
1:23:10
Speaker 10: of similarities between Waco and a lot of similarities between
1:23:15
Speaker 10: the Heaven's Gate cult as well, and that they all
1:23:20
Speaker 10: ended almost identically except the the I mean, Waco was
1:23:25
Speaker 10: obviously I personally believe that the FBI burnt down that building.
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Speaker 8: Those were Nike Monarchs. Weren't they That they were wearing.
1:23:36
Speaker 9: They no if they were called Galaxy or something.
1:23:40
Speaker 8: Okay, I don't have a memory.
1:23:43
Speaker 9: I know you're talking about the.
1:23:45
Speaker 8: Nikes.
1:23:46
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not sure what the name of the shoe
1:23:51
Speaker 10: was called, but that would be wild if it was
1:23:54
Speaker 10: Nike Monarchs.
1:23:55
Speaker 8: I think we've tried to buy them on the show before.
1:23:57
Speaker 8: We've looked them up and there's still compared.
1:24:00
Speaker 9: There were nineteen ninety three Nik Nike decades. That's the
1:24:03
Speaker 9: name of them.
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Speaker 10: freaking transition into the extraterrestrial Mothership to the next evolutionary
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Speaker 9: Bro another it doesn't get brought up enough on Heaven's Gate.
1:24:24
Speaker 9: That I found fascinating is a lot of them also
1:24:26
Speaker 9: were wearing patches on their clothing that set Away Team
1:24:30
Speaker 9: like it was like a baseball patch that set Away Team, uh,
1:24:33
Speaker 9: implying that unlike Jonestown, like pretty much everyone there was
1:24:37
Speaker 9: a willing participant, and they all absolutely believed that they
1:24:41
Speaker 9: were just teleporting their souls to you know, elsewhere.
1:24:45
Speaker 8: Well, it was neo gnosticism and a lot of like
1:24:48
Speaker 8: in an interesting name, you're a neo gnostic a little bit.
1:24:54
Speaker 10: That's sort of almost identically to the Order of the
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Speaker 10: Solar Temple, call it in a happened. I believe that
1:25:02
Speaker 10: that went down in ninety three or somewhere around in
1:25:06
Speaker 10: there in the early nineties. This almost identically to Waco
1:25:12
Speaker 10: and with Heaven's Gate, where they all like simultaneously committed
1:25:18
Speaker 10: mass suicide and a lot of them were actually murdered.
1:25:22
Speaker 10: Several of them had been shot in the head. And
1:25:26
Speaker 10: the strange thing about it was that there was a
1:25:28
Speaker 10: gun that was found outside of the order of the
1:25:31
Speaker 10: Solar Temple compound. They had three compounds and they all
1:25:34
Speaker 10: basically went up in flames and they all killed themselves
1:25:37
Speaker 10: almost at the exact same time, which is wild. Then
1:25:41
Speaker 10: it all burnt to the ground. It was just another
1:25:44
Speaker 10: But there was a gun that was found outside of
1:25:46
Speaker 10: these compounds that was like a it almost looked like that.
1:25:51
Speaker 10: It was like put together by like a like an
1:25:54
Speaker 10: amateur type person that didn't know what they were doing.
1:25:59
Speaker 10: It was like one shooter gun, like you had to
1:26:02
Speaker 10: put one bullet in it at a time, and there
1:26:06
Speaker 10: was like fifteen people in these facilities that were all
1:26:13
Speaker 10: shot in the head by this gun. There was no
1:26:15
Speaker 10: other weapons found at the scene. So it's really odd
1:26:20
Speaker 10: and really strange that this gun killed that many people involuntarily.
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Speaker 10: That's like some people's speculation around it, like they would
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Speaker 10: because you have to load the gun, shoot the person
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Speaker 10: Yeah, they just had a bunch of different clips with
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Speaker 10: in the way that there they were also being investigated
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Speaker 10: for weapons, uh like illegal weapons manufacturing, which people that
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Speaker 10: were wacos like it was like a huge like set up,
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Speaker 10: like that was just an excuse to go in and
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Speaker 10: some kind of an excuse to investigate the Order of
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Speaker 10: the Solar Temple as well. But these people were getting
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Speaker 10: millions of dollars, like people were just donating millions of
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Speaker 10: dollars of these people. They found some of their books
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Speaker 10: after that didn't get burned up, and like there was
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Speaker 8: you think there's connections with all of these mass killings
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Speaker 8: and all these weird cults and all these different weird
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Speaker 8: it's almost like their little rituals taking place. I don't
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Speaker 8: that we're going to find out about And it makes
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Speaker 8: thinking about that little goober that tried to take out Trump.
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Speaker 8: Like as much as I think it was sort of
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Speaker 8: like an inside thing, I don't think he was in
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Speaker 8: they use them. That kid looked kay Altred as fuck.
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Speaker 9: Well, he probably thought he was in on it at
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Speaker 9: the very least.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting things that surround that
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Speaker 10: whole that whole thing. I mean, like, why did they
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Speaker 10: not have a press conference after it? That's like one
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Speaker 10: of the it's one of the first things you do.
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Speaker 10: Why don't we know any information? Why can't they give
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Speaker 10: us any information about him? Like the kid didn't have
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Speaker 10: any kind of digital footprint online anywhere. Think you're telling
1:30:59
Speaker 10: me how old did they say he was, Like he's
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Speaker 10: like his mid twenties or like early twenties or something
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Speaker 10: like that. How in the world do you not have
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Speaker 10: any kind of digital footprint? And why did it take
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Speaker 10: so long for them to get into his phone? Like
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Speaker 10: are you kidding me? Like a kid? You tell me
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Speaker 10: you can't plug up your, like someone's phone to a
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Speaker 10: super freaking I mean, there's there's software right now the
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Speaker 10: what's that software? Phoenix, Phoenix software anyway, Pegasus, Yes, Pegasus software.
1:31:33
Speaker 10: You could download and get into anybody's phone and get
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Speaker 10: all their information off it. What are you talking about?
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Speaker 10: Tell me that the greatest freaking intelligence community in the
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Speaker 10: world can't get into this kid's phone. No press conference.
1:31:45
Speaker 10: I think it was just weird, dude. It was such
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Speaker 10: a weird scenario.
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Speaker 8: They had to clean it first, and his.
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Speaker 10: Entire house is completely scrubbed. It was just cleaned down,
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Speaker 10: like with a cloth, no fingerprint, like what is going on?
1:32:00
Speaker 8: Just so?
1:32:01
Speaker 10: And then people act like it didn't even like they've
1:32:04
Speaker 10: just moved on from it, just over with no one
1:32:08
Speaker 10: talks about it anymore.
1:32:11
Speaker 8: Yeah, dude, I mean that's how you know there was
1:32:13
Speaker 8: something fucking fishy about it. But I guess nothing fucking
1:32:16
Speaker 8: really lasts anymore in the news cycle.
1:32:20
Speaker 10: It's always something, the next thing, the next big popular
1:32:23
Speaker 10: I think squirrel, that's right, Just like how the the
1:32:30
Speaker 10: whole weather modification geo engineered storm that was that was
1:32:36
Speaker 10: gonna hit Florida, And like now no one cares about
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Speaker 10: weather modification geo engineered storms anymore.
1:32:43
Speaker 8: You know.
1:32:44
Speaker 10: It's like it's the same thing with the you know,
1:32:47
Speaker 10: the mainstream media. I mean, the Conspiracy and the Truth
1:32:49
Speaker 10: of Community is just a carbon copy of the mainstream
1:32:52
Speaker 10: media for a different group of people. That's what it is.
1:32:56
Speaker 8: It is, man. I mean, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, I mean,
1:33:01
Speaker 8: as much as I love him, also Alex Jones, all
1:33:04
Speaker 8: of those folks, it's just the new mainstream media, that's
1:33:08
Speaker 8: all it.
1:33:09
Speaker 10: Isn't They have to have content they're realizing that all
1:33:16
Speaker 10: of the bullshit that's been fed to us by the media.
1:33:21
Speaker 10: They also have to do that in a certain type
1:33:25
Speaker 10: of way too, or they're not going to have any
1:33:27
Speaker 10: content not necessarily true. They have to throw things in
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Speaker 10: there that doesn't have any evidence, that has no proof
1:33:38
Speaker 10: behind it, just as well the mainstream media did.
1:33:42
Speaker 8: They had to establish new credibility in a way, right,
1:33:45
Speaker 8: because they've kind of burned down their old establishment, Like
1:33:49
Speaker 8: the mainstream media is completely gone at this point. So
1:33:53
Speaker 8: I think, honestly, they're pushing people like Joe Rogan. They're
1:33:56
Speaker 8: pushing people even people like Theo Vaughn. He has weird
1:33:59
Speaker 8: fucking connects too, dude, like military connections that people don't
1:34:03
Speaker 8: talk about. It's weird. But all these people are going
1:34:06
Speaker 8: to be like basically the new mainstream media. They've burned
1:34:10
Speaker 8: all their bridges. The people that still believe CNN are
1:34:13
Speaker 8: always going to believe CNN, but they know that the
1:34:16
Speaker 8: country is fractured, it's completely split, and now people just
1:34:20
Speaker 8: trust anything Joe Rogan says that's gospel at this point.
1:34:26
Speaker 10: And then that trickles down onto like lower level people
1:34:31
Speaker 10: within the community as well. They try and do the
1:34:33
Speaker 10: same thing. It's like it's a carbon copy of the
1:34:37
Speaker 10: mainstream media. And how long is it going to be
1:34:39
Speaker 10: until people start to not believe in this alternative media
1:34:45
Speaker 10: stuff either. It's eventually it's going to swing back the
1:34:49
Speaker 10: other way. It always swings back the other way eventually.
1:34:54
Speaker 9: I'm more pessimistic about it. I think that the next
1:34:57
Speaker 9: wave is that everyone starts getting their new and their
1:35:00
Speaker 9: media consumption from their personally trained little AI dude ads,
1:35:05
Speaker 9: which are better at giving you exactly what you want
1:35:08
Speaker 9: to hear, more so than the mainstream media wishes that
1:35:12
Speaker 9: they could. And that's kind of what all like the
1:35:14
Speaker 9: alt media and the alt right and all that. It
1:35:16
Speaker 9: was just like, oh, there's a gap in the market.
1:35:18
Speaker 9: There's people that want to hear this opinion. Let's give
1:35:20
Speaker 9: them that opinion. But it's still kind of binary, right,
1:35:23
Speaker 9: You've only got like a few options to choose from.
1:35:25
Speaker 9: But when everyone's got something personally tailored, oh you're so right,
1:35:30
Speaker 9: Oh check out this article, you know what I mean? Like,
1:35:32
Speaker 9: once everyone feels that they've got some kind of pure, personal,
1:35:35
Speaker 9: curated thing, I think that everyone's bias is going to
1:35:39
Speaker 9: be splintered even more into like, well, my Bot said,
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Speaker 9: is this and Natespot told him that, and now like
1:35:43
Speaker 9: there's almost no standard for you to agree on.
1:35:47
Speaker 10: Yeah, that is a high possibility as well. I'll see
1:35:49
Speaker 10: that being a reality. And we're already seeing the first
1:35:53
Speaker 10: like fragments of that with you know, Chad GBT. I mean,
1:35:56
Speaker 10: that's a really real Thingeople are getting a lot of
1:36:00
Speaker 10: their information they're not, you know, from that AI software,
1:36:05
Speaker 10: and that's where it's really going to start heading. I mean, like,
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Speaker 10: why would you want to waste all of your time
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Speaker 10: like researching and looking into all this stuff and seeing
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Speaker 10: five different opinions on one topic from other people to
1:36:18
Speaker 10: formulate your own opinion when you can just ask the
1:36:20
Speaker 10: AI and they'll give you the standard.
1:36:23
Speaker 7: Thing.
1:36:24
Speaker 8: Like I don't know how many times I've.
1:36:26
Speaker 10: Seen this so many times on social media guys, where
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Speaker 10: like with the with the health community, and like sometimes
1:36:34
Speaker 10: they'll just pop up on my feed where it'll be like,
1:36:39
Speaker 10: you know, you got to make sure and eat blueberries
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Speaker 10: every day. This is just an example. You got to
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Speaker 10: make sure and eat blueberries every day because it's good
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Speaker 10: for your your health and your your blood oxygen levels
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Speaker 10: and it'll make you super strong. And then you scroll
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Speaker 10: it'll clog up your pores and give you acne on
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Speaker 10: your feet. Like it's it's so ridiculous the amount of
1:37:13
Speaker 10: and it's so confusing that people no longer know what
1:37:17
Speaker 10: to believe. And that has been the plan since the beginning.
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Speaker 9: Why had they had this campaign for the incredible edible
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Speaker 9: be one campaign about how eggs were good for you
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Speaker 9: see a commercial that it's like, if you eat an
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Speaker 9: over this and that, I mean that was the same thing.
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Speaker 14: To me.
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Speaker 9: It rocked my world. I was like, I guess I
1:37:44
Speaker 9: just can't ever trust what anyone says about this stuff.
1:37:47
Speaker 10: And that's the whole plan. That has been the plan
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Speaker 10: Then people no longer know what to believe. That's a
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Speaker 10: horrible Obama impression, but you get what I'm saying. But
1:40:17
Speaker 10: that's what ury Bezmanof was also saying. He was like,
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Speaker 10: this is like the four steps to subverting entire country,
1:40:25
Speaker 10: subverting ideology of an entire country, which I have ury
1:40:29
Speaker 10: bezman Off in our documentary at Clockwork Shining. There's a
1:40:33
Speaker 10: clip of him in there that's talking about this because
1:40:35
Speaker 10: Kathy O'Brien is talking about the school system and how
1:40:38
Speaker 10: the school system has been infiltrated with MK ultra type technologies,
1:40:43
Speaker 10: and then the next thing is ury Bezmanoff talking about
1:40:48
Speaker 10: the school system and how you you put Marxist Leninism
1:40:52
Speaker 10: ideology and you pump it, pump it in the people's heads,
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Speaker 10: and in the generation you'll you'll having a completely different outcome.
1:41:00
Speaker 10: You'll have all of these people that are supporting this,
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Speaker 10: and it's never counterbalanced. This is exactly words. It's never
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Speaker 10: counterbalanced by basic American values. They just continue to let
1:41:14
Speaker 10: it go on, and then the confusion sets in, and
1:41:17
Speaker 10: then people no longer know what to believe. So then
1:41:19
Speaker 10: they're just like, Okay, well none of this matters anyway,
1:41:21
Speaker 10: and then nihilism sinks in, and then then you get
1:41:24
Speaker 10: to the point well, none of this matters. Whatever it is,
1:41:28
Speaker 10: what it is, whatever. Then you don't stand up for anything,
1:41:31
Speaker 10: and then you're just in this limbo type of scenario.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's a lot to what you
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Speaker 8: said there, because when you let the when you let
1:41:40
Speaker 8: the left go fucking wild, like we have whatever, the left, right,
1:41:45
Speaker 8: whatever you want to call it, but like actual communists,
1:41:49
Speaker 8: uh go wild, and uh you do get a reaction,
1:41:53
Speaker 8: and it is an equal and opposite reaction, but it's
1:41:57
Speaker 8: not what you want. It's not like uh, patriotic Americans
1:42:01
Speaker 8: that want to stand up for the country and like
1:42:03
Speaker 8: stand it for like moral values and things like that.
1:42:06
Speaker 8: You get the actual hard right reaction, like fascism has
1:42:09
Speaker 8: always been a reaction from communism. It's almost communism two
1:42:15
Speaker 8: point zero. And it's really interesting watching it getting embraced,
1:42:20
Speaker 8: even by myself sometimes I have like I'm like, yeah,
1:42:22
Speaker 8: fuck them, you know, and you get all like crazy
1:42:25
Speaker 8: for a minute, and then watching the left kind of
1:42:29
Speaker 8: eat itself because it always does that, like you're saying
1:42:32
Speaker 8: that like, uh, what's her dumbass name, Cumhola had to
1:42:36
Speaker 8: fucking uh pander to the to like the ones that
1:42:40
Speaker 8: like Jews, and then then she's literally going to like
1:42:43
Speaker 8: like hamasniks and she's like, yeah, fuck them. You know,
1:42:46
Speaker 8: it's so fucking silly watching it, because they tried to
1:42:50
Speaker 8: make this like big tent group with like they tried
1:42:53
Speaker 8: to like say, everybody's the same. So if you're black,
1:42:56
Speaker 8: you're the same person as a disabled person, You're the
1:42:59
Speaker 8: same person as like an obese person, as a trans person,
1:43:03
Speaker 8: as a queer person. Like they have this like big
1:43:06
Speaker 8: tent group of just circus freaks, and they're like, you're
1:43:08
Speaker 8: all the same, right right, Mexican, You're what a bus right,
1:43:14
Speaker 8: And all it really does is it just serves to
1:43:17
Speaker 8: further fraction, like fracture people because we're not all the same,
1:43:23
Speaker 8: and we shouldn't be all the same. We should have
1:43:25
Speaker 8: some like values that are the same, and we should
1:43:28
Speaker 8: be able to have some morality that's the same. But
1:43:31
Speaker 8: it's it's pretty sick, it's pretty weird.
1:43:35
Speaker 10: Yeah, they want to blanket everybody with the same type
1:43:38
Speaker 10: of I mean, and that's what school is really for,
1:43:42
Speaker 10: is like is to in doctrinate children to everybody gets
1:43:48
Speaker 10: the same curriculum, everyone goes through the same courses, you know,
1:43:52
Speaker 10: and it's like this they want this equal opportunity outcome,
1:43:56
Speaker 10: and that's not the way that the.
1:43:57
Speaker 5: World works.
1:44:00
Speaker 10: Because that destroys the whole premise of if you work
1:44:04
Speaker 10: hard and you do things the right way, you have determination,
1:44:09
Speaker 10: you have you know, gumption, and you have high integrity,
1:44:17
Speaker 10: then you're going to be successful in whatever your endeavor is.
1:44:22
Speaker 10: But they want to completely stomp that out and make
1:44:24
Speaker 10: it too Yeah, they want to just completely blanket the
1:44:28
Speaker 10: entire system with the same set of rules and for
1:44:34
Speaker 10: the people that don't put in any work get the
1:44:36
Speaker 10: same exact outcome as the people that put in all
1:44:39
Speaker 10: the work. That's not the way that it goes. That's
1:44:44
Speaker 10: not the way that it should go. I don't think
1:44:47
Speaker 10: it's like participation in trophies, you know what I mean,
1:44:49
Speaker 10: Like if you're in like a sport or whatever, Like
1:44:54
Speaker 10: not giving a trophy to everyone is supposed to inspire
1:44:57
Speaker 10: people to do better. You know, if you don't, if
1:45:01
Speaker 10: you're not in the top three ranking of of whatever
1:45:04
Speaker 10: it is that you're doing, then you don't get a trophy.
1:45:06
Speaker 10: But that's supposed to inspire. That's not supposed to make
1:45:09
Speaker 10: you downtrodden and depressed and anxiety ridden. It's supposed to
1:45:14
Speaker 10: make you do better. It's supposed to make you get
1:45:16
Speaker 10: better at the thing that you're trying to do, so
1:45:19
Speaker 10: that hopefully, at some point in the future you'll be
1:45:22
Speaker 10: in first place, second place, or third place. But they've
1:45:27
Speaker 10: completely done it. They've done a way. It doesn't everybody
1:45:30
Speaker 10: feels like that they've won.
1:45:34
Speaker 8: Tell me what you think about the motivations behind it,
1:45:36
Speaker 8: Like the people that Stanley Kubrick was kind of exposing
1:45:41
Speaker 8: in a way he was kind of he was kind
1:45:43
Speaker 8: of telling us about what was happening, because to me,
1:45:46
Speaker 8: it just seems like a it's like a cult of death.
1:45:50
Speaker 8: These people worship death. It's it's always anti human. Every
1:45:55
Speaker 8: single medicine they give us also gives you cancer. Look
1:45:58
Speaker 8: at the side effects of every new drug they give you.
1:46:01
Speaker 8: The food they poison it, the water they poison it.
1:46:05
Speaker 8: People they're trying to sterilize them or get them to
1:46:08
Speaker 8: sterilize themselves. They sterilize your kid too, they're training chop
1:46:13
Speaker 8: off their wing or give them a sweet pussy. Like
1:46:16
Speaker 8: all of this seems to me, Oh, or just abort it,
1:46:19
Speaker 8: just kill it right now. Let's just get rid of
1:46:21
Speaker 8: it out of the way. Right now. Every single thing
1:46:24
Speaker 8: they do seems to be anti life.
1:46:27
Speaker 10: And it seems to only be in the United States.
1:46:32
Speaker 8: So is there's something special about us that they're trying
1:46:35
Speaker 8: to snuff out the last flame?
1:46:40
Speaker 10: Well, what's what's he saying? You're muted? Brother?
1:46:44
Speaker 9: I want children. That's why, that's why America gets all
1:46:47
Speaker 9: the special treatment, because we're into go children, never brown.
1:46:53
Speaker 9: That explains it, at least explains why they're testing all
1:46:56
Speaker 9: the plastic and the mk ultra abilities on us, like
1:46:59
Speaker 9: we're all eleven. In a way, I think.
1:47:04
Speaker 10: I think that it's because I know a lot of
1:47:07
Speaker 10: Like one of my friends just recently moved to Japan
1:47:11
Speaker 10: and he's like, listen, Japan is completely opposite of the
1:47:14
Speaker 10: way that America runs. And he's like, it's not because
1:47:18
Speaker 10: there are some problems. There's nowhere near the amount of
1:47:21
Speaker 10: problems that the United States has that Japan has.
1:47:27
Speaker 7: They have.
1:47:28
Speaker 8: The most important problem of them all is their demographics are,
1:47:33
Speaker 8: like they are just fucking plummeting right now. Their population
1:47:37
Speaker 8: is just all men.
1:47:38
Speaker 10: They're having a hard time with men because it's a
1:47:42
Speaker 10: predominantly woman centric country. Which I read something the other
1:47:49
Speaker 10: day that which I don't know if it's true. Or not.
1:47:51
Speaker 10: But apparently they're like trying to get Americans to go
1:47:55
Speaker 10: to Japan to like pro create with their women, Like.
1:48:00
Speaker 9: Well, they that's the way.
1:48:02
Speaker 8: What are you still doing here, dude? I got to
1:48:04
Speaker 8: go culture for.
1:48:06
Speaker 9: So long, which is the reason why they've got a
1:48:08
Speaker 9: lot of advantages that other countries don't have. But now
1:48:11
Speaker 9: they've been able to put off immigration for decades longer
1:48:14
Speaker 9: than anyone else. But the only that's literally the only
1:48:17
Speaker 9: solution they've got. Even if they all start fucking like
1:48:20
Speaker 9: rabbits right now, they still don't have a way to
1:48:24
Speaker 9: fill like to make a stop gap for this. The
1:48:27
Speaker 9: only stop gap is going to be immigration. So that's
1:48:31
Speaker 9: I mean, we're all going to see in real time
1:48:33
Speaker 9: what happens to Japan once they have to take that initiative.
1:48:38
Speaker 8: You're watching it right now. Like I've showed some videos
1:48:41
Speaker 8: on my on my sister show Schizo News Network. We
1:48:46
Speaker 8: had they invited in some African immigrants and uh, let's
1:48:51
Speaker 8: just say it's not peaceful right now. Like there's Japanese
1:48:54
Speaker 8: cops that are like trying to calm them down, and
1:48:57
Speaker 8: they're getting people from the Fiber World country that are
1:48:59
Speaker 8: like like ashing each other in the head with bottles
1:49:01
Speaker 8: and stuff, and they're like, what the fuck, dude, Like.
1:49:04
Speaker 9: It's time for them to catch up to the twenty
1:49:06
Speaker 9: first century with the rest of them. Man, they can't
1:49:07
Speaker 9: live in that bubble forever. It's fucking wild out here, bro.
1:49:11
Speaker 9: They need to sample a little bit of it.
1:49:15
Speaker 8: They just need to import Koreans. Maybe maybe the entire
1:49:18
Speaker 8: state of North Korea bring them in or something.
1:49:20
Speaker 10: I don't know, Kim get Kim Jong yune in Japan.
1:49:26
Speaker 8: But Kim Jong un, honestly, that entire country seems like
1:49:29
Speaker 8: it was an mk ultra experiment, like the crazy things
1:49:34
Speaker 8: that they've done to like break down their their their culture,
1:49:37
Speaker 8: their society and rebuild it into like this new thing.
1:49:41
Speaker 8: Because North Korea and South Korea there's no, you know,
1:49:45
Speaker 8: genetic difference between the two, and you can just see
1:49:47
Speaker 8: the night and day difference between the two, and one
1:49:50
Speaker 8: has been basically MK ultra to believe that, like at
1:49:53
Speaker 8: two years old, Kim Jong un did a perfect game
1:49:56
Speaker 8: of golf and he's never shipped before, and all kinds
1:49:59
Speaker 8: of you know, all these wild things that they like
1:50:01
Speaker 8: forced them to like have public He removed.
1:50:04
Speaker 10: Three bottom three bottom ribs, so he could suck his
1:50:07
Speaker 10: own dick, is what I heard.
1:50:09
Speaker 8: He was born without him because he was he was
1:50:12
Speaker 8: born the perfect or Boris dude. He he was straight
1:50:16
Speaker 8: box saga.
1:50:17
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was the original Bak Kim Young bach.
1:50:23
Speaker 10: Kim Young Buck. No, it just seems like that a
1:50:28
Speaker 10: lot of the the issues are really issues within the
1:50:33
Speaker 10: United States, and it doesn't really seem like the other
1:50:37
Speaker 10: First world countries outside of like North America like have
1:50:41
Speaker 10: these types of problems. And I just find that really interesting,
1:50:46
Speaker 10: and you know, people are like, oh, well, that's another
1:50:51
Speaker 10: issue with the the community and the conspiracy and the
1:50:55
Speaker 10: truth or community, is like they only have the ability
1:50:59
Speaker 10: to really relate things that are happening inside of this country.
1:51:05
Speaker 10: Like Japan gets hit with freaking earthquakes like all the time.
1:51:09
Speaker 10: It's one of the largest countries that have earthquakes. Do
1:51:14
Speaker 10: they believe that those earthquakes there are whether engineered, geo engineered,
1:51:21
Speaker 10: freaking directed energy weapon earthquakes. No, they don't. It's nature, okay, nature, Natures,
1:51:30
Speaker 10: nature does some weird shit. Can't predict it, okay.
1:51:36
Speaker 9: So it's like, you know, for all the to say this,
1:51:39
Speaker 9: I just have to.
1:51:40
Speaker 10: Ask, uh, well, they actually pay me in Starbucks gift cards,
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Speaker 10: But that's what it is. That's what people don't really
1:52:04
Speaker 10: understand or they don't really realize. Like there's so much
1:52:07
Speaker 10: more of the freaking world that people have never been
1:52:13
Speaker 10: to and don't know how their political systems work, or
1:52:16
Speaker 10: how they're uh they're what they're like socially, or what's
1:52:20
Speaker 10: going on over there because we don't get that information.
1:52:23
Speaker 10: They don't give us that information. We don't know what's.
1:52:25
Speaker 8: Going on special. The United States is, dude. We are
1:52:31
Speaker 8: literally the only country that you could just you're born
1:52:36
Speaker 8: allowed to own a weapon. You can have a gun, like, hey,
1:52:40
Speaker 8: you could argue some states in the country, but like,
1:52:43
Speaker 8: there is something special about this place. And at least
1:52:45
Speaker 8: we believe we have pretty speech that is not a
1:52:48
Speaker 8: given anywhere else in the world. This is kind of
1:52:51
Speaker 8: like the last beacon of any sort of pretense to
1:52:55
Speaker 8: freedom is this country, and people are just fucking given
1:52:59
Speaker 8: in a way. It's place of special, dude.
1:53:05
Speaker 10: I think it's special. Too, and I think that what
1:53:07
Speaker 10: they what they did was they just they they came
1:53:11
Speaker 10: in and I think that Germany lost the war on paper,
1:53:16
Speaker 10: but they won like real life. They won. They just
1:53:21
Speaker 10: infiltrated into the United States and did it, picked up
1:53:24
Speaker 10: everything that they were doing over there, and just brought
1:53:25
Speaker 10: it to the United States and kept doing everything that
1:53:27
Speaker 10: they were doing. And that's how we get all of
1:53:29
Speaker 10: these issues. That's why we have all these things that
1:53:33
Speaker 10: are going on. That's why we're the most abet one
1:53:36
Speaker 10: of the top three most abest countries in the world.
1:53:39
Speaker 10: That's why our healthcare is so garbage. It's it's why
1:53:43
Speaker 10: the things are like so ridiculously expensive. It's that's really
1:53:48
Speaker 10: what it comes. What it all boils down to, in
1:53:52
Speaker 10: my opinion, of course, was that after the war, these
1:53:56
Speaker 10: people infiltrated into the country and they realized that they
1:53:59
Speaker 10: can't do this shit out in the open anymore. They
1:54:01
Speaker 10: have to do it covertly. They can't just decide, oh, well,
1:54:04
Speaker 10: let's just eliminate an entire race of people. We can't
1:54:07
Speaker 10: do that. We're gonna get too much backlash, right, There's
1:54:10
Speaker 10: gonna be too many people that's going to want to
1:54:11
Speaker 10: go to war over that scenario, right, so we got
1:54:15
Speaker 10: to covertly do it? How would we covotely do it? Well,
1:54:17
Speaker 10: we'll just poison these people. We'll get them hooked on
1:54:20
Speaker 10: all these freaking medications. You know, out of people think
1:54:25
Speaker 10: the mk Ultra was just LSD. It wasn't just LSD.
1:54:27
Speaker 10: There's an array of medications that they all experimented on
1:54:31
Speaker 10: all the way from nicotine to sugar, freaking antipsychotics to antidepressants,
1:54:37
Speaker 10: adderall riddle in pain pills like all of it. We
1:54:41
Speaker 10: have a list in the documentary at Clockwork, Clockwork, Clockwork
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Speaker 10: Shining on Amazon Prime, and we go down through the
1:54:48
Speaker 10: list of all the freaking medications that we're tested on
1:54:52
Speaker 10: in the mk Ultra programs, and a large percentage of
1:54:56
Speaker 10: all those things are some of the things that we
1:54:58
Speaker 10: take every single day and that is readily available to us.
1:55:03
Speaker 10: What do we put our kids on whenever they aren't
1:55:06
Speaker 10: behaving in school? And put them on a Riddlin our
1:55:10
Speaker 10: row and Riddlin literally directly came out of those mk
1:55:13
Speaker 10: Ultra programs. They were tested on within all of these programs,
1:55:20
Speaker 10: on test subjects and on patients, and then they were like,
1:55:23
Speaker 10: oh okay, well, let's just start giving this to everybody.
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Speaker 10: And who easier to give it to you than children?
1:55:31
Speaker 10: And kids we'll just prescribe all he's not The kid
1:55:35
Speaker 10: is being too much like a kid. Let's dumb him down.
1:55:38
Speaker 10: Let's make him so he pays attention to No, the
1:55:40
Speaker 10: kid is just being a kid. Let the kid be
1:55:41
Speaker 10: a freaking kid.
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Speaker 7: The kind of family is good medicine.
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Speaker 8: I mean that's essentially adderall or riddle in a different
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Speaker 8: variant of that is what Hitler was giving to his soldiers, right.
1:57:21
Speaker 10: Yeah, methan fhetamine basically, and riddlin is just a molecule
1:57:27
Speaker 10: off of like methan fetamine. And then when you look
1:57:30
Speaker 10: at the LSD experiments, one of the first manufacturers of
1:57:33
Speaker 10: LSD in the United States was Eli Lilly and Company.
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Speaker 9: Just like eugenics. The Germans got myth from US too.
1:57:54
Speaker 9: They got methane eugenics from US.
1:57:59
Speaker 10: Did they get mess.
1:58:02
Speaker 9: Original Because adrenaline was synthesized in nineteen oh one in
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Speaker 9: New York and from there was an explosion of all
1:58:10
Speaker 9: these like meth related chemicals because they realized how similar
1:58:14
Speaker 9: adrenaline was to all these other bioavailable sort of drugs
1:58:17
Speaker 9: that they had been creating. And they and there's records
1:58:20
Speaker 9: that go back into the early nineteen hundreds where they
1:58:22
Speaker 9: start giving it to what they would call uh like
1:58:27
Speaker 9: retarded juvenile children, not like mentally retarded, but developmentally like
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Speaker 9: they were troublemakers, like juvenile delinquents, and they would they
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Speaker 9: would hop them off and they would notice immediately that
1:58:38
Speaker 9: they were getting like they were more attentive in class,
1:58:41
Speaker 9: and they were they were fitting into the system a
1:58:43
Speaker 9: little bit more when they gave them all these meth
1:58:45
Speaker 9: related drugs. And this is way before the nineteen thirties,
1:58:49
Speaker 9: and I think that around when of the time nineteen
1:58:51
Speaker 9: thirties came around. Even Hitler was like looking at the
1:58:54
Speaker 9: eugenics program in the US, but ironically, particularly in California,
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Speaker 9: I think, had one of the most successful program, and
1:59:00
Speaker 9: he was like, I like what you guys are doing,
1:59:02
Speaker 9: but we're just going to implement it at the state level.
1:59:05
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1:59:09
Speaker 9: the states were being a little bit sneaky about it.
1:59:11
Speaker 9: They were incentivizing sterilization through money or they would give
1:59:15
Speaker 9: you like a test and then like talk to parents
1:59:17
Speaker 9: into doing this thing like it was good for them.
1:59:19
Speaker 9: And I think that Germany just didn't have the patience
1:59:22
Speaker 9: for that. They were just like, get in this line.
1:59:26
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's get all the soldiers on this so they
1:59:27
Speaker 10: can fight for seventy two hours without going to sleep.
1:59:31
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I don't know.
1:59:33
Speaker 9: This is kind of a cliche term, but it's like
1:59:35
Speaker 9: it's not I might be paraphrases wrong. It's not whether
1:59:38
Speaker 9: you lose or win the war, but it's the Nazi
1:59:41
Speaker 9: scientists that you make along the way.
1:59:45
Speaker 10: That would make sense.
1:59:47
Speaker 8: We got some good ones, dude, We got some hitters, dude.
1:59:50
Speaker 9: We got the best we got like the rookie first
1:59:53
Speaker 9: round draft picks, all of them, well.
1:59:55
Speaker 10: Not necessarily, Russia actually got way more of them on
1:59:59
Speaker 10: the books than the United States.
2:00:01
Speaker 8: But we got.
2:00:04
Speaker 9: Yeah, like we got like Werner von Braun, We put
2:00:06
Speaker 9: his ass on Disney. We got kids loving them like
2:00:09
Speaker 9: we made superstars out of them.
2:00:13
Speaker 10: But that's a little not a well known thing though,
2:00:15
Speaker 10: was people don't realize that Russia god.
2:00:23
Speaker 7: Far more.
2:00:25
Speaker 10: Russian project paper clip.
2:00:31
Speaker 8: Yeah, they got a ton man. They also were the
2:00:33
Speaker 8: ones that gave us or put out the body of
2:00:37
Speaker 8: Adolph and it turned out to be a female's body,
2:00:40
Speaker 8: and so we don't even really know if he died
2:00:43
Speaker 8: when they say he died. I love the idea, and
2:00:48
Speaker 8: got some spicy Latina tail, but who knows?
2:00:51
Speaker 9: Was it a hot body that they gave us?
2:00:55
Speaker 8: Now, yeah, I get, I mean it might have still
2:00:57
Speaker 8: been warm.
2:00:57
Speaker 10: But okay, So opera is I can't say this Russian
2:01:02
Speaker 10: name Olfsklovkaholm. However, it is as a secret Soviet operation
2:01:08
Speaker 10: under which more than twenty five twenty five hundred former
2:01:12
Speaker 10: Nazi German scientists, engineers and technicians who worked on several
2:01:16
Speaker 10: areas from companies and institute relevant to military and economic
2:01:20
Speaker 10: policy in the Soviet occupation zone in Germany and Berlin,
2:01:24
Speaker 10: as well as four thousand more family members of these
2:01:28
Speaker 10: German Nazis. Totally more than six thousand people who were
2:01:31
Speaker 10: transported from former Nazi Germany Germany as war reparations to
2:01:36
Speaker 10: the Soviet Union in place in the early morning hours
2:01:39
Speaker 10: of October twenty second, nineteen forty six. So they Soviet
2:01:46
Speaker 10: army units under the direction of Soviet military administration in
2:01:50
Speaker 10: Germany headed by Ivan Suorvlow, rounded up German scientists and
2:01:55
Speaker 10: transported them by rail to the USSR. So they just
2:01:59
Speaker 10: popped on all these Nazi German scientists on a freaking
2:02:03
Speaker 10: train and took them right into Russia. Six thousand of
2:02:07
Speaker 10: them quality over more than six thousand, yeah, maybe sixty
2:02:12
Speaker 10: five hundred of them. But the project I think paper
2:02:16
Speaker 10: Clip was like twenty five hundred or something like officially,
2:02:20
Speaker 10: but people have speculated that there was as many as
2:02:24
Speaker 10: twenty eight thousand officially as sixteen hundred.
2:02:30
Speaker 8: Do you know approximately how many the USA got?
2:02:35
Speaker 10: Sixteen hundred, that was.
2:02:36
Speaker 9: The number sixteen on the books, twenty if you get
2:02:40
Speaker 9: speculative about it, yep.
2:02:44
Speaker 10: But six thousand on the books for Russia.
2:02:48
Speaker 8: But how many made it to the Inner Earth is
2:02:50
Speaker 8: what I want to know. How many people made it
2:02:52
Speaker 8: to a Gartha?
2:02:54
Speaker 10: Well that.
2:02:56
Speaker 7: Did they make it?
2:02:57
Speaker 10: Did they make it to Antarctica? That's the question.
2:03:02
Speaker 6: I don't know.
2:03:02
Speaker 10: That's the only way to get done into the inner Earth.
2:03:05
Speaker 7: That I know about.
2:03:07
Speaker 8: Yeah, dude, I do like that. I do hope there
2:03:11
Speaker 8: is a few guys that they're drinking pints right now
2:03:14
Speaker 8: and eating brought worse down there and having a gay time.
2:03:19
Speaker 10: They got their grille out down there with their ventilation system,
2:03:24
Speaker 10: drinking mimosas, eating sushi. Didde. That would be the life.
2:03:37
Speaker 8: So what do we do now, America?
2:03:40
Speaker 7: Uh?
2:03:42
Speaker 8: I see two very intelligent white males here that as
2:03:47
Speaker 8: far as I know, writer, you don't have any kids yet, right, No, sir,
2:03:53
Speaker 8: we need to. We need to change that, both of
2:03:55
Speaker 8: you right now need to. We need more smart white
2:04:00
Speaker 8: man to have babies.
2:04:02
Speaker 9: And well, we screwed that up because we didn't vote Kammlin.
2:04:06
Speaker 9: That was our last chance to save this country. But
2:04:10
Speaker 9: I'm I'm actually part of the four B movement right now,
2:04:13
Speaker 9: so I am not putting out for the next four years.
2:04:15
Speaker 17: At least.
2:04:19
Speaker 10: That's uh. I think that you get this to.
2:04:22
Speaker 9: Yourself, America. Don't blame me.
2:04:24
Speaker 10: You already have a shaven head, so you're already one
2:04:27
Speaker 10: stop there, So I'm getting pretty close to shaving.
2:04:31
Speaker 9: I actually did this the day after the election. I
2:04:34
Speaker 9: used to have a large, flowing in set of hairer
2:04:38
Speaker 9: oh Man.
2:04:39
Speaker 10: So you you're really in it, dude, no joke, you
2:04:43
Speaker 10: were in it.
2:04:44
Speaker 9: Next step is the beard goes blue. That's when you're
2:04:47
Speaker 9: That's when you know I'm getting really upset.
2:04:51
Speaker 10: Blue beer shaved head, not having sex for four years?
2:04:54
Speaker 10: Holy shit, do it, bro, let's get it. No shape
2:05:01
Speaker 10: groch or well, yeah, we already have our input hair.
2:05:04
Speaker 10: But they should just make themselves so freaking ugly that
2:05:10
Speaker 10: if they're so serious about it, they should just stop
2:05:12
Speaker 10: wearing makeup.
2:05:12
Speaker 7: Right.
2:05:15
Speaker 9: That feels like it might be a net positive across
2:05:18
Speaker 9: if everyone did stop that. Look, that's less weird chemicals
2:05:22
Speaker 9: in the water supply, is it not?
2:05:25
Speaker 10: Absolutely? They should really do that. They if they're really
2:05:28
Speaker 10: serious about doing the four B thing, then they should
2:05:32
Speaker 10: just stop wearing makeup, stop going out looking pretty and
2:05:36
Speaker 10: dressing up. They should just wear freaking sweatpants and overalls
2:05:40
Speaker 10: for the next four years.
2:05:43
Speaker 9: It could be a new renaissance.
2:05:45
Speaker 8: Yeah, just a little just a.
2:05:48
Speaker 10: Little ankle, you know, like back in the day when
2:05:51
Speaker 10: you know the older generation, they're all about legs. And
2:05:54
Speaker 10: the only way that they they're so hot about legs
2:05:56
Speaker 10: because that's the only you can only see the little
2:05:59
Speaker 10: part of the ankle back in.
2:06:00
Speaker 9: Because the angle is the only part that doesn't grow hair.
2:06:05
Speaker 8: Have you ever noticed that the women that try to
2:06:08
Speaker 8: like hold sex over over men are always gross pigs.
2:06:11
Speaker 8: Like I think about like back to the prohibition movement,
2:06:14
Speaker 8: do you remember those women that were like the suffragettes. Yeah,
2:06:18
Speaker 8: well not the suffragettes, the ones that were trying to
2:06:20
Speaker 8: push alcohol prohibition. They were like lips that touch liquor,
2:06:25
Speaker 8: don't touch mine. And you can like find these photos
2:06:27
Speaker 8: and they're like women with one eye and like they're
2:06:30
Speaker 8: like fat pigs, and it's like they're the same, They're
2:06:34
Speaker 8: the same, it's the same script. It's the same women
2:06:36
Speaker 8: that are doing it. Some of them actually do kind
2:06:40
Speaker 8: of have the same beard as you, Thomas.
2:06:45
Speaker 10: Some of the women have the same beard as him,
2:06:48
Speaker 10: like attracts like is that amish women or what kind
2:06:51
Speaker 10: of women were those?
2:06:53
Speaker 8: I can pull up.
2:06:54
Speaker 10: Was that like Kathy Beads from American Horror Story, Freak
2:06:57
Speaker 10: Show looking beard or what you've all seen the show
2:07:05
Speaker 10: right where Kathy Bates has a beard?
2:07:08
Speaker 9: American Hard Story, wasn't was it the Carnival.
2:07:12
Speaker 8: The Carnival one?
2:07:13
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Freak Show, It's classic.
2:07:18
Speaker 7: That was before we.
2:07:18
Speaker 9: Started turning the series into like a music video.
2:07:22
Speaker 10: Oh my god, dude, I hate, I hate. The new
2:07:24
Speaker 10: new seasons are such garbage.
2:07:29
Speaker 9: Nate's looking up his Bearded Lady porn folder right now,
2:07:32
Speaker 9: He's get the latest one.
2:07:38
Speaker 8: Let me pull these brods up. You can see what
2:07:41
Speaker 8: kind of gross pigs they were. Look at these brids,
2:07:46
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, lips that touch liquor shall not touch ours.
2:07:54
Speaker 8: These brides so sexy.
2:07:59
Speaker 9: It this almost feels like a like an overt anti
2:08:04
Speaker 9: psyop like there, this is a meme. They were making
2:08:08
Speaker 9: a meme when they took pictures like that.
2:08:13
Speaker 10: I mean, if that's all you got, bro, that's all
2:08:15
Speaker 10: yeah dude.
2:08:17
Speaker 9: I mean alcohol is the only thing that was really
2:08:19
Speaker 9: working in their favor, right yeah.
2:08:24
Speaker 8: Yeah.
2:08:24
Speaker 10: And I think that like prostitution was like one legal.
2:08:27
Speaker 10: I think that's how everyone got laid back.
2:08:31
Speaker 7: In the day.
2:08:31
Speaker 9: Was I wonder if you match that chart up with
2:08:36
Speaker 9: the declining birth rate, if there was any correlation between
2:08:39
Speaker 9: those two.
2:08:45
Speaker 10: So it's a photo for so it's basically, did women
2:08:50
Speaker 10: not drink?
2:08:52
Speaker 8: Those women that drink, those ladies did not.
2:08:58
Speaker 10: Huh.
2:09:00
Speaker 8: Yeah. It was a big push the ladies that were
2:09:03
Speaker 8: trying to get the men. It's always a sy up, right,
2:09:05
Speaker 8: They're like, get the lady. Those were the first Kamala
2:09:07
Speaker 8: Harris supporters right there. Get the mended, put the booze down,
2:09:12
Speaker 8: and there's a bunch of cucks, white dudes for Harris.
2:09:15
Speaker 8: They were like, okay, honey, it's.
2:09:18
Speaker 9: What white dudes for Harry's. That was the original one.
2:09:23
Speaker 10: I love them. Bearded woman. Oh my god.
2:09:27
Speaker 8: You know I was not like a Trump supporter, but
2:09:30
Speaker 8: god damn it, I wanted Kamala Harris to lose. I
2:09:34
Speaker 8: just like I was like, yeah, but you know, like whatever,
2:09:37
Speaker 8: but god, she was the worst. She was so fucking terrible.
2:09:41
Speaker 8: I'm like I was simultaneously like fuck but also fuck, yes.
2:09:48
Speaker 10: You know I was really I was pretty stoked as well,
2:09:51
Speaker 10: because I thought that it was gonna be way worse
2:09:53
Speaker 10: than I thought. It was gonna drag out for a
2:09:56
Speaker 10: really long time, I thought it was going to be
2:09:57
Speaker 10: a Bush al Gore situation, because that's what everyone said, Yeah,
2:10:03
Speaker 10: like this was going to be a couple of weeks
2:10:04
Speaker 10: before we know the other the results of the election
2:10:07
Speaker 10: that was just so overwhelming and Trump went by such
2:10:10
Speaker 10: a freaking landslide that there was no way that they
2:10:13
Speaker 10: couldn't call it. Now, if it would have been closer,
2:10:16
Speaker 10: they could have definitely have you know, stretched out a
2:10:19
Speaker 10: lot longer, because I think Bush and al Gore was
2:10:22
Speaker 10: like super close, and that went up until the inauguration.
2:10:26
Speaker 10: They were arguing about that and doing recounts and uh,
2:10:30
Speaker 10: you know, the dangling Chad's situation. So if it would
2:10:34
Speaker 10: have been closer, they she wouldn't have conceded. But and
2:10:38
Speaker 10: she should have conceded that night, but she waited all
2:10:40
Speaker 10: the way until the afternoon or the next day to concede.
2:10:44
Speaker 8: But she went out terribly. If you listened to that speech,
2:10:48
Speaker 8: I listened to it while it was live. She she
2:10:51
Speaker 8: she sucks so bad, dude.
2:10:54
Speaker 10: She can't say anything, bro, she can't say did you
2:10:57
Speaker 10: watch that rally before the where she had Cardi b
2:11:01
Speaker 10: up there in front of the teleprompter and the teleprompter
2:11:04
Speaker 10: went out and Cardi b Is just standing there for
2:11:06
Speaker 10: a freaking minute. She just like doesn't say anything because
2:11:09
Speaker 10: she can't say anything because it's all written out for
2:11:12
Speaker 10: she doesn't know what to say. Like, none of these
2:11:14
Speaker 10: people can know what to say if they can't read it.
2:11:19
Speaker 10: It's unbelievable. Kamala can't do it either. None of them
2:11:22
Speaker 10: can do it. I'm like, well, if these people support
2:11:24
Speaker 10: her so bad, you so much and believe in her
2:11:27
Speaker 10: so much, you would think that they would study their
2:11:28
Speaker 10: speech in case something happens to the point where they
2:11:32
Speaker 10: can't read it, and they would already know what to say,
2:11:35
Speaker 10: Like if you feel something in your heart in your chest,
2:11:40
Speaker 10: then you should be able to come up with it
2:11:42
Speaker 10: from the top of your head. You shouldn't need to
2:11:44
Speaker 10: read shit. But all those people were just reading garbage.
2:11:51
Speaker 8: Well because they stand for nothing. It's kind of like that. Well,
2:11:55
Speaker 8: it's kind of like they do every single day. It's
2:11:57
Speaker 8: almost like the Stanley Kuper thing when you stop reading
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2:12:03
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Speaker 9: The biggest flaws that hurt Kamala that we all kind
2:14:08
Speaker 9: of saw the after effects of, is that concept of
2:14:10
Speaker 9: too many cooks in the kitchen. Like, like her entire
2:14:13
Speaker 9: persona and campaign and everything about her just reeks of
2:14:18
Speaker 9: too many cooks in the kitchen.
2:14:21
Speaker 10: Yeah, and they didn't give a fair electoral process. They
2:14:26
Speaker 10: were just like here here's she's the nominee. Like that
2:14:29
Speaker 10: has never happened in the history of presidential elections. There's
2:14:34
Speaker 10: always been a nomination for the Republican side and for
2:14:40
Speaker 10: the Democrat side. You have to have a bench, and
2:14:42
Speaker 10: that's something that they've screwed up so bad on a
2:14:44
Speaker 10: Democrat side. They don't have a bench of people. They've
2:14:47
Speaker 10: propped nobody up. They didn't prop anybody up so bad
2:14:51
Speaker 10: that they had to get somebody with Alzheimer's and mental
2:14:55
Speaker 10: freaking problems to be president in twenty twenty. They didn't
2:14:58
Speaker 10: have anybody else, and they don't have anybody else for
2:15:02
Speaker 10: the next election either. Who are they going to put
2:15:06
Speaker 10: back up there? Again?
2:15:07
Speaker 8: It's it's so Michelle, Michelle Obama. I think Michelle Obama
2:15:12
Speaker 8: is the only person left that could gather enough support.
2:15:18
Speaker 10: If they were going to do that, then they should
2:15:20
Speaker 10: have done it this election.
2:15:21
Speaker 8: They should have done it. Yeah, they actually gave a shit.
2:15:24
Speaker 8: They were air agant and black deil.
2:15:29
Speaker 9: Bro if the first female president is literally the first
2:15:32
Speaker 9: female president because she had a male president's dick inside
2:15:36
Speaker 9: of her first like, there's no deeper black hole or
2:15:40
Speaker 9: black pill for me to go down like I would rather,
2:15:42
Speaker 9: I guess, I guess Hillary Clinton would be in the
2:15:44
Speaker 9: same camp there. I would almost prefer as anyone that
2:15:48
Speaker 9: got there by some form of merit that didn't rhyme
2:15:52
Speaker 9: with Willie Brown or having a husband that did it first. Like,
2:15:56
Speaker 9: I would rather have anyone other than that.
2:16:00
Speaker 8: Well, dude, if I was Kamala Harris, Like right now,
2:16:03
Speaker 8: if I was Kamala Harris, I would burn every fucking
2:16:05
Speaker 8: bridge a twenty fifth Amendment, Uh, Joe Biden immediately, and
2:16:09
Speaker 8: I would fucking take the ranks. Yeah, I'm president. Why
2:16:13
Speaker 8: doesn't you do that?
2:16:14
Speaker 9: You wouldn't even know what happened until like a day
2:16:16
Speaker 9: or two later. It would be it would be so easy,
2:16:21
Speaker 9: that might be, that might.
2:16:22
Speaker 10: Be in the works. We don't know. There's a lot
2:16:25
Speaker 10: of things that can happen between now and inauguration day.
2:16:27
Speaker 10: I mean they I just took it as like a
2:16:30
Speaker 10: as like a as a win. You know, I don't
2:16:33
Speaker 10: know what's going to happen, and you know, I think that,
2:16:37
Speaker 10: but we don't have very many wins, and there's been
2:16:41
Speaker 10: nothing like this that's really ever happened. Even if it's
2:16:43
Speaker 10: just a perception that things are going to change, I'm
2:16:47
Speaker 10: like for it, because we never get those. There's never
2:16:50
Speaker 10: any of those in our reality. It's always doom and
2:16:53
Speaker 10: gloom and bullshit nonsense. Nothing's ever going to change. It's
2:16:56
Speaker 10: all bad blah blah blahlahlahlah blah. Well, I think that
2:16:59
Speaker 10: we should have just taken to step back and be like, hey, like,
2:17:02
Speaker 10: let's just soak in this freaking moment for a minute
2:17:05
Speaker 10: and let this fester for a minute. We can talk
2:17:07
Speaker 10: about the doom and gloom shit like later on. And
2:17:10
Speaker 10: there's two more months until the he's put in the office,
2:17:15
Speaker 10: and there's a ton of things that can happen between
2:17:17
Speaker 10: Then he can get really assassinated. They could legitimately kill him.
2:17:22
Speaker 10: He could go to prison. That's still in the that's
2:17:25
Speaker 10: still on the table. He could go to prison before
2:17:29
Speaker 10: his inauguration. That's set for I think November. That's set
2:17:34
Speaker 10: for the end of this month for his sentencing. Now,
2:17:39
Speaker 10: I don't know if like that's going to like hold
2:17:42
Speaker 10: up in any kind of They'll probably dismiss it. I mean,
2:17:46
Speaker 10: we hope that they'll dismiss it, but they might not.
2:17:48
Speaker 10: They could throw a president elect in prison. What's that
2:17:53
Speaker 10: going to do. That's going to be a freaking uprising
2:17:56
Speaker 10: same same way as if he gets shot and killed,
2:18:01
Speaker 10: or they kill him in some other way, they poison
2:18:03
Speaker 10: him or do whatever. Freaking Cia brings out their heart
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Speaker 10: attack machine outside of Marrow Lago and sets it up
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Speaker 10: and freaking gives him a heart attack and he dies
2:18:13
Speaker 10: or some kind of health problem or something. It's it's
2:18:16
Speaker 10: all on the table. I just think that, you know,
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Speaker 10: I was excited, and I still want to carry over
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Speaker 10: that excitement onto because it's it's like the first time
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Speaker 10: that anything, like I said, even perceived, has been good
2:18:35
Speaker 10: in my lifetime. There's never been like an event like
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Speaker 10: this where we're like, holy shit, I can't believe this happened,
2:18:47
Speaker 10: where you can be like, wow, fucking America. You know,
2:18:52
Speaker 10: there's never been a time like that. Maybe when I
2:18:56
Speaker 10: mean it's kind of fake, like when you know, some
2:18:59
Speaker 10: of them Barack Obama took out was a Saddam Hussein
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Speaker 10: or whoever it is that he killed her or Sama
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Speaker 10: bin Lad and I can't get him straight. They all
2:19:07
Speaker 10: have similar names. But whenever Seal Team six went in,
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Speaker 10: it was kind of like yeah, America, but it was
2:19:14
Speaker 10: very short lived. It was like for like a night,
2:19:17
Speaker 10: everyone was like yeah, we called the terrorists like that's it.
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Speaker 10: But that's the only other thing that has even come
2:19:23
Speaker 10: close in my lifetime that's happened that we can be like, wow,
2:19:30
Speaker 10: I can't believe that that happened. And I like to
2:19:34
Speaker 10: soak in that moment because we may never get another
2:19:36
Speaker 10: one again. This kid could go to complete shit, you go,
2:19:40
Speaker 10: it could go so fucking sideways. Like I said, they
2:19:43
Speaker 10: could kill him, they can arrest them, he can be
2:19:45
Speaker 10: in prison, and they can all just be screwed up
2:19:47
Speaker 10: in a month or two months or some kind of
2:19:50
Speaker 10: freaking shenanigans where Kamala doesn't give over the because she
2:19:54
Speaker 10: has to sign off on it on December sixth. That's
2:19:58
Speaker 10: what a lot of people don't realizes that it has
2:20:01
Speaker 10: to go through. She's the one that finalizes the electoral
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Speaker 10: College votes on December sixth, the vice president, and she's
2:20:10
Speaker 10: the vice president, so there's a lot of shit that
2:20:13
Speaker 10: can go wrong. But I I chose to just be
2:20:17
Speaker 10: excited about it and uh and just kind of you know,
2:20:21
Speaker 10: basking celebrate in the wind because has it been one
2:20:25
Speaker 10: and might not ever get one again.
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Speaker 8: Any thoughts on that, Thomas, what do you think?
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Speaker 5: Man? I?
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Speaker 8: I I choose to fucking enjoy every single day. Actually,
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Speaker 8: I'm white pilled as fuck, and maybe that maybe that
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Speaker 8: I think I think, uh, I don't know what's gonna happen,
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Speaker 8: but I'm fucking hopeful, dude, And uh yeah, I think
2:20:55
Speaker 8: that we can take this victory for a little bit.
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Speaker 8: And I like to I love watching the videos of
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Speaker 8: and screaming. I'm really enjoying those. Yeah, man, I don't
2:21:09
Speaker 8: know you're all right though, because like definitely, like at
2:21:13
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2:21:18
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2:21:22
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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm optimistic. I'm I'm definitely in the camp
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Speaker 9: of the lesser of two evils got through. But it's
2:21:35
Speaker 9: still pretty fucking evil.
2:21:37
Speaker 8: All.
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Speaker 9: I will be forever scorned because my my one sort
2:21:42
Speaker 9: of issue is Second Amendment, and I think Trump's kind
2:21:47
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Speaker 9: And I also I'm a little bit scared that now
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Speaker 9: he's got a few brushes with the downside of Second Amendment,
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2:22:09
Speaker 9: I'm the I'm definitely not white pilled.
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Speaker 8: I also have a hard time personally with people that
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Speaker 8: I have an issue with that. But fingers crossed, I
2:22:24
Speaker 8: don't know, because even RFK Junior is seems to be
2:22:28
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2:22:35
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2:22:39
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Speaker 10: In his first term, he a lot of the things
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2:22:52
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2:23:09
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Speaker 10: the stuff that he said that he was going to do. Never,
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Speaker 10: we never actually heard him say those things. There's some thing,
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2:26:13
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Speaker 8: It would agree it would have cause yeah, a lot
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Speaker 8: of chaos.
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Speaker 9: On the debate stage. Though, to keep saying you'd be
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Speaker 9: in jail over and over again.
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Speaker 10: That's probably what won in that twenty sixteen election.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 10: So I was like, I don't know, I think we
2:26:38
Speaker 10: just need to sit back, see how the cookies crumble
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Speaker 10: and see how they fall. And you know, if he
2:26:43
Speaker 10: doesn't do the things he says that he's going to do,
2:26:45
Speaker 10: and and you know the people that are around don't
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2:26:53
Speaker 10: was another nothing burger, you know, then we'll beyond to
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Speaker 10: the other nothing burger that'll happen in another four years.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 10: So it'sch either way that you look at it, whether
2:27:04
Speaker 10: it's going to be whether it's all talking, he's going
2:27:07
Speaker 10: to get in there and do nothing and it's going
2:27:09
Speaker 10: to just be more of the same, or you think
2:27:11
Speaker 10: that he's going to get in there and do everything
2:27:13
Speaker 10: and then he actually does. You know, it's just up
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Speaker 10: to the way that you want to look at it.
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Speaker 8: Well, sincerely, it can't get worse even, you know, even
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Speaker 8: if he just did twenty sixteen over again, I'll take it.
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Speaker 8: And honestly, even the tailing the thing that he promised
2:27:33
Speaker 8: he promised to take to quit taxing overtime, if he
2:27:37
Speaker 8: actually does that, did I will get on my knees.
2:27:40
Speaker 8: I'll blow him live on the show.
2:27:47
Speaker 10: To complete no tax on overtime, no tax on tips,
2:27:55
Speaker 10: several deporting illegal criminals, tariffs on countries which people say, oh, well,
2:28:02
Speaker 10: the terriffis are just gonna turn around and be you know,
2:28:05
Speaker 10: be on the American consumer. Well, I mean that's not
2:28:08
Speaker 10: the point. The point is to try and create more
2:28:11
Speaker 10: jobs and more business and more manufacturing inside of the
2:28:14
Speaker 10: United States.
2:28:16
Speaker 8: Everything that, honestly is that it's gonna hurt in the
2:28:20
Speaker 8: short term, right because it's gonna have to like we're
2:28:23
Speaker 8: gonna have to fucking pick up the slack. If we're
2:28:25
Speaker 8: not getting cheap goods from China, then we're gonna actually
2:28:28
Speaker 8: have to start manufacturing them in the country again. And
2:28:30
Speaker 8: it's gonna hurt at first because things are gonna feel
2:28:33
Speaker 8: like they're more expensive and things like that. And the
2:28:35
Speaker 8: problem is that the American public has such a short
2:28:38
Speaker 8: term you know what I'm saying. But honestly, that's what
2:28:42
Speaker 8: needs to happen. Like it's gonna hurt when you first
2:28:44
Speaker 8: rip off the band aid, But we need to be
2:28:47
Speaker 8: less dependent on other countries. We need to have that
2:28:49
Speaker 8: manufacturing here in the country. We need to start building
2:28:52
Speaker 8: things here again, and that would give better jobs to people,
2:28:56
Speaker 8: people would make more money, and things would get more expensive,
2:28:58
Speaker 8: but you're gonna get quality things. People are going to
2:29:00
Speaker 8: have a living wage. Uh that the nationalist in me
2:29:04
Speaker 8: gets all excited about that sort of thing.
2:29:07
Speaker 10: It's like, why don't we have all these factories and
2:29:09
Speaker 10: all these big jobs like in the Midwest, Like there's
2:29:13
Speaker 10: not very many people live in the Midwest. It is
2:29:18
Speaker 10: like spread out have I mean freaking half the half
2:29:22
Speaker 10: of Wyoming is empty bro.
2:29:25
Speaker 8: Like Montana, there's nothing there.
2:29:32
Speaker 10: There's manufacturing stuff there.
2:29:35
Speaker 8: When there's money, people will move. When there's jobs where
2:29:38
Speaker 8: there's money, people will migrate. I think I think Detroit
2:29:43
Speaker 8: could be less of a shithole again. We could have
2:29:45
Speaker 8: like it, It could be beautiful again. Maybe let's let's
2:29:50
Speaker 8: make America great again.
2:29:54
Speaker 10: Let's at least attempt, and let's at least at least try,
2:29:58
Speaker 10: because at least in this term, he doesn't have to
2:30:01
Speaker 10: spend half of his presidency campaigning and doing rallies. He's
2:30:07
Speaker 10: got a full four years because he can't be president again.
2:30:10
Speaker 10: He's got a full four years to just do everything
2:30:12
Speaker 10: that he wants to do.
2:30:13
Speaker 8: And we'll see, We'll see. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing.
2:30:17
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously the media and the establishment are going
2:30:20
Speaker 8: to be fighting him tooth and nail, But I hate
2:30:23
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2:30:45
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2:30:48
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2:30:50
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2:30:59
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