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Furness Show 10-13: Mariners big Weekend, Mollywhop Monday, Hugh Millen · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: we're still debating that. But we may have the other
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  Speaker 1: half of the Mariner's postcast on Lockdown Network with Chris Crawford.
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  Speaker 1: the guys in a second, get their thoughts on what
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  Speaker 1: happened Friday and then yesterday. It's kind of weird you
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  Speaker 1: get like two massive games to react to, the clincher
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  Speaker 1: on Friday and the win yesterday in game one of
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  Speaker 1: the ALCS. Yeah, I that we'll just get into more
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  Speaker 1: of that with those guys at that point, and like
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  Speaker 1: I said, Andrews is probably going to join a little
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  Speaker 1: bit as well. Look ahead of the week, pitching matchups
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  Speaker 1: have been or at least Mariner's starting rotation for the
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  Speaker 1: first few games is out there, so we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: all of that Walter Goes today. Logan Gilbert, I'd say
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  Speaker 1: he's got a high bar to surpass what Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 1: did yesterday. But we'll get to that coming up as
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  Speaker 1: well with the molly operas with Chris and Nate. Just
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  Speaker 1: a weird, weird world we live in right now. It's
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  Speaker 1: October thirteenth, I believe. Yeah, October thirteenth, and we're still
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  Speaker 1: talking baseball and we're still mollywopping. Normally, if we're talking
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  Speaker 1: with Chris and Nate on October thirteenth, it would be
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  Speaker 1: because something bad happened and like someone got fired, traded, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the case. We're talking about the Alcs and
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  Speaker 1: a baseball team here now being three games away from
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  Speaker 1: doing something that has never been been done in forty
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  Speaker 1: nine years in Seattle forty eight previous season. This is
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  Speaker 1: year forty nine, and that's going to a little thing
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  Speaker 1: they call the World Series. One game to none lead
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  Speaker 1: and remember this is the best of seven, so it's
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  Speaker 1: a one game to non lead in the best of
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  Speaker 1: seven Game two today in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I'm Canadian Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to my mom and all the Canadians out there.
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  Speaker 2: Give me more of an accent. Come on, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Hobby Thanksgiving Mom. Hey, anyway, we get Well, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow Tomorrow, ca Gary, Calgary. Well, yeah, so they're in
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  Speaker 1: Toronto today and then back here in Seattle Wednesday, Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: Friday and Friday would be if necessary, so would Sunday
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  Speaker 1: Game six if necessary in Toronto, and a week from
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  Speaker 1: today would be Game seven when the Seahawks are playing
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  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football and the crack and are playing and
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  Speaker 1: we just have too much. We just need to postpone
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  Speaker 1: something along the way. But the timing for Monday Night
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  Speaker 1: football could not be worse. If there's a game, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that is just the worst. Not today, it's Monday Football,
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  Speaker 1: next Monday, because if Thursday games, if there's a game seven,
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  Speaker 1: it's next Monday when the Seahawks are playing host of
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  Speaker 1: the Texans. Now I wouldn't be here luckily in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: it would be in Toronto. But yeah, way we go.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta do this. So and Jess, you were out
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  Speaker 1: when I brought this up last week, So I did
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  Speaker 1: I did a thing. Well, you weren't out. You were here.
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  Speaker 1: I think you were working softy show. We Jackson was
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  Speaker 1: out last week. But so we're kind of we're musical
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  Speaker 1: producer chairs. Last week, but I was telling Andrews last week,
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  Speaker 1: I did a I did a hit with I did
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  Speaker 1: it hit it with the jackson Jacksonville Jaguars flagship radio station.
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  Speaker 1: I got up early to do it because they're on
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  Speaker 1: the East Coast. I was a nice guy. Good for you, man.
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  Speaker 1: You think you think there's cheerleaders on sports radio in
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  Speaker 1: this town? You know, on this station? What have you?
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  Speaker 1: These guys were retreat fat Tony and his and his partner.
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  Speaker 1: So this is you're gonna hear what I said. They
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  Speaker 1: asked me a question, you hear my response. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you this. I was inundated with Twitter response, I
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  Speaker 1: mean mean tweets beyond belief from the Jacksonville fans. But
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  Speaker 1: guess who had the Guess who had the last words.
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  Speaker 3: I think Seattle's biggest advantage potentially will be in the matchup.
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  Speaker 3: Seattle's biggest advantage potentially link. Seattle's big advantage potentially will
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  Speaker 3: be in the match up against the Jags on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback, simple, quarterback, Your guy's not very good? You think so?
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  Speaker 4: Huh Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think the whole league knows that. I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 5: hate this. I hate to be that guy, but but
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  Speaker 5: I I mean this, I don't know. He's he's an
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  Speaker 5: odd dude man, Like there's so much there, you think,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, I don't know. I just I think
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  Speaker 5: Sam's a little bit better right now. And I'm I'm
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  Speaker 5: Lawrence has just got to be a name. But for
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  Speaker 5: you guys, isn't me? Like he's got to drive you
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  Speaker 5: guys crazy at times? He wins a big game.
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  Speaker 1: But so that was you think? So yeah, actually I
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  Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I kind of know.
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  Speaker 2: So that was great.
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  Speaker 1: I know, so weird. Let me check my mentions again
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  Speaker 1: my notifications? Was this before the game? Oh yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: right after that. Like so Wednesday of last week, I
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  Speaker 1: just just looked down at my notifications. I had like
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  Speaker 1: a hundred from you know, people call me out tagging
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in him like he really cares, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and all this.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, do you hear what this guy said about you?
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is. Strange last twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 2: Crickets, Yeah, nothing going on, crickets, dude, vall.
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  Speaker 1: I heard more ce fucks yeah, and I heard duval.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear want of Duval Jacksonville. And here's the
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  Speaker 1: best thing. You guys are all. We appreciate the business,
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate the fact that all you guys are tuning
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  Speaker 1: in last week from Jacksonville on the iHeartRadio app pre
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  Speaker 1: set number one. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Please consider it a hate listen.
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  Speaker 1: I and they love it. Trust me, it was. I
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  Speaker 1: looked at my mentions after the next three shows. They're
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  Speaker 1: all over it.
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  Speaker 2: That's so great.
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  Speaker 1: You should hear what Cosell thinks of him off the record.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I'll get into with
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  Speaker 1: you hardcore football later today or not, but really, duvall,
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  Speaker 1: like you were stunned when I said quarterback was the
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  Speaker 1: biggest advantage.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 2: It's nine close.
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  Speaker 1: It's this guy is I mean, the hair's great, but
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  Speaker 1: the deer in the headlights, Duval is just remarkable. Buddy.
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  Speaker 1: You you got sacked seven times, one time when you
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  Speaker 1: held the ball for almost seven seconds and you and you,
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  Speaker 1: that's on you. That's not your Your offensive line must
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  Speaker 1: hate you. God, they must hate No. She hadn't have
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  Speaker 1: to stunt it. We'll break it down harcow football later.
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  Speaker 1: She had to do a lot of different games up front,
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  Speaker 1: but they got I mean they had I think they
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  Speaker 1: officially it was thirteen pressures. They had seventeen hit seven sacks.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, you're supposed to be mobile. Quick decision,
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  Speaker 1: you know how, you don't get sacked to make a
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  Speaker 1: quick decision. Give her the ball. You know who did that,
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield last week, and Sam Darnold, Shan Dartell did
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  Speaker 1: it too. That is that is something I noticed though,
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  Speaker 1: really quick. Yeah, the opponents that the Seahawks face in
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  Speaker 1: the line two weeks in terms of the quarterback, specifically
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  Speaker 1: night and day. It makes a massive difference. And Tampa
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  Speaker 1: was shorthanded when they played as well. So let's just
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  Speaker 1: let's just look around the league. How is Cincinnati without
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow? H Okay, how let's go through how how
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  Speaker 1: would uh Baltimore be without Lamar Jackson?
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  Speaker 2: Also?
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  Speaker 1: Pretty bad? Really bad?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And and but you have your guy. You drafted him
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  Speaker 1: number one overall, you signed to an extension. Seattle went
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  Speaker 1: out and picked up Sam Darnold for next to nothing,
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  Speaker 1: and people here were critical. They were, okay, they were
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  Speaker 1: one for what one for twelve? I believe on third
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  Speaker 1: down with Seattle yesterday, mostly because the run game was
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  Speaker 1: non existent again, but at the end they needed to
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  Speaker 1: get a first down. You didn't want to give the
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  Speaker 1: ball back to Sunshine there, But what did what did
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  Speaker 1: we do? Cl Clint Kubiak who prop Clint Kubiak didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a great game, I don't think. And the decision
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  Speaker 1: to give more carries to Charbonnet as a posed to
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  Speaker 1: Walker is still the most mind boggling thing that this
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  Speaker 1: organization does. What is Nobody knows, nobody knows, nobody understands it.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think McDonald just had their first kid,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not like he's dating his daughter or anything.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell is going on. It
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  Speaker 1: makes no sense. But when they needed a play, when
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  Speaker 1: they needed a play, Both teams needed plays when they
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  Speaker 1: when Seattle needed to play. After a great defensive stand
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  Speaker 1: against Sunshine, Lawrence and Douvall, what happens Kubiak dials it
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  Speaker 1: up and Sam Darnald to a J Barner on a
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  Speaker 1: great play fake thanks for coming, Yeah, okay, yeah, So again,
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  Speaker 1: what's the biggest Douvall? If you're listening today on the
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  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, thank you. What's the biggest advantage? What position quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: It's quarterback, and for Seattle this year, that's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the case a lot of days. It's gonna say, im Darling.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll break it down with humail and coming
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  Speaker 1: up at two o'clock today. That'll be fun. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: much of it. I told you so, guy. You know
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  Speaker 1: I don't get involved in the Twitter stuff most of
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  Speaker 1: the time. Last week was fun. Now, I'll be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. I was a little stressed in that game.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't wrong. I didn't need Yeah, I know the
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  Speaker 1: show that roots to be wrong, not rooting me wrong yesterday. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: and we were right. Okay, we'll take a break, come back.
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  Speaker 1: Molliwap Monday, brought to you by Simply Seattle, Simply Sattle
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  Speaker 1: getting hitt you ready for Game two of the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: and the Blue Jays and the Alcs October thirteenth, and
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  Speaker 1: we're having the Mollywhoppers on. Not for an emergency podcast,
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  Speaker 1: no for a real session that's coming up next.
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  Speaker 4: It's Monday, and that means one thing. It's time to
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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. It's a Mollywop Monday on
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  Speaker 1: October thirteenth, twenty twenty five. And as I mentioned to
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  Speaker 1: Andrews and to Jessiman in the first segment, if we're
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  Speaker 1: doing this normally over the last this is year let's
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  Speaker 1: see twenty twenty three four? Is this your six for us?
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 8: It's like your five and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Five and a half because that first year Kevin didn't
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  Speaker 1: like you guys and we were only on part of
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 9: Should have followed his instincts with that one.
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  Speaker 1: Probably should have. It's why a PD now somewhere, But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: because that was the year's blame Kevin. He's like maybe
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  Speaker 1: every other week with those guys. That's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: That was his quote, not mine anyway. Yeah, so year
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  Speaker 1: five and a half of if we've had you guys
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  Speaker 1: on this time of the year. It's because something not
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  Speaker 1: good was happening, like someone got fired, they're not renewing
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  Speaker 1: a contract. Hey, Oscar's going to LA We'll just figured
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  Speaker 1: it out whatever it is. No, no, Jerry Depoto talk
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  Speaker 1: to the media, et cetera. Oh god, we might be
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  Speaker 1: right around the two or three year. It was a
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  Speaker 1: three year. Yes, is it three years ago?
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  Speaker 9: Believe it's two It was after the twenty twenty three season,
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  Speaker 9: if I remember correctly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, because I was coming. I know exactly where.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of those things, you know where you were at.
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  Speaker 1: I was in Cincinnati Airport and he was just starting
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  Speaker 1: the press conference. We get on the plane and I
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  Speaker 1: get off the we land and sea tack. Five hours later.
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  Speaker 1: I turned on my phone and I'm like, whoa, what happened? Well? My,
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  Speaker 1: how things have changed?
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  Speaker 6: My?
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  Speaker 1: How things have changed?
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  Speaker 4: Have they?
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  Speaker 6: Not?
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  Speaker 1: Huh my? How things have changed? Mariners have a one
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  Speaker 1: game to none leading the ALCS. They're in the ALCS
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  Speaker 1: Because Jess, you want to turn your mic down. There
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  Speaker 1: we go, I name to screen.
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  Speaker 10: Name the same one.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, let's let's put it this way, because
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  Speaker 7: everyone has random names. They make when they joined the
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  Speaker 7: stream yard that Chris and Jess used the EXAs Zach
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  Speaker 7: and it.
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  Speaker 1: Has to do with somebody last night. We'll just leave
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  Speaker 1: it with that. Okay, all right, boy, get your minds
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  Speaker 1: out of the I'm sorry, we're not getting Chris back.
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  Speaker 1: I see the laughing. We're not getting it back. I
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  Speaker 1: get I can just tell you right now, we're not
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  Speaker 1: getting right. No, No, that's all good. All right. Where
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  Speaker 1: are we at? Okay, So here we are, Friday fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Get to get to the alcs yesterday? Oh boom, nice
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  Speaker 1: little win. Give up a leadoff home run to Springer.
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  Speaker 1: We've never seen that before, ever, never The buzzer was
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  Speaker 1: working last night. Apparently knew it was coming. Didn't work
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  Speaker 1: after that though. They must unplugged it, plugged it and
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  Speaker 1: so and so away we went after that, Manyers, get
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  Speaker 1: a win. There's a ton to discuss. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: into all of that as always. I'll bring Andrews in
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  Speaker 1: probably in the second segment, andres for the postcast preview
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  Speaker 1: of and everything like that. But let me let me
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  Speaker 1: just go through it. Guys. We always do this. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna still do this. Opening statements and initial thoughts. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not just a week that we have to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: it's I don't know, two massive games. Nathan Bishop fire away.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna start throwing this out to the good
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  Speaker 9: people of Ballard, Washington. You guys have a statue of
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  Speaker 9: Vladimir Lennon there, and as he said, there are decades
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  Speaker 9: where nothing happens, and there were weeks where decades happened,
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  Speaker 9: and good God, have decades happened this week. I was
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  Speaker 9: just recapping everything has happened since the last time we spoke.
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  Speaker 9: The Marriors have played I believe, four playoff games. The
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  Speaker 9: game on Friday Night is I don't think it's the
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  Speaker 9: greatest game in franchise history, but if you're younger than
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  Speaker 9: I am by about five or six years, you can
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  Speaker 9: call it that. And I'm not gonna argue with you,
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  Speaker 9: because that was a game that I will remember for
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  Speaker 9: the rest of my life, even though I was at
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  Speaker 9: a bar and parts of it are a little bit
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  Speaker 9: hazy admittedly between innings like eleven and on, but that
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  Speaker 9: was one of the most special of sporting experiences that
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  Speaker 9: I've had in decades. This is the kind of thing
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  Speaker 9: that we've had now this past week feels like the
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  Speaker 9: kind of thing that I if the Mayors don't make
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  Speaker 9: the playoffs for the next twenty years, this past week
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  Speaker 9: is gonna sustain me. Enough has happened this past week
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  Speaker 9: that I'm gonna still have joy and memory from this
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  Speaker 9: past week. This is gonna last me for the rest
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  Speaker 9: of my life. And that's what playoff baseball does. And
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  Speaker 9: it's I spoke about this last week. It's so unrelenting
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  Speaker 9: because guess what they're playing in what a half an hour? Like,
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  Speaker 9: we just went through this again yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: You guys.
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  Speaker 9: This is everything that I've ever wanted it to be.
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  Speaker 9: Watching this community, watching our region come together through this
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  Speaker 9: experience has been one of the most enjoyable sporting experiences
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  Speaker 9: of my adult life. Flat out, full stop. I'm just
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  Speaker 9: having so much fun, Chris.
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  Speaker 8: Chris, I am just having a blast, and I will
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  Speaker 8: you know, I talked about this before Game five and
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  Speaker 8: I'm a wreck. I'm still a wreck before all of
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  Speaker 8: these games. And what's funny is so yesterday I was
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  Speaker 8: the least nervous I had been for a Seattle MARINPL
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  Speaker 8: season game for my entire life. And I know there's
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  Speaker 8: not a ton of them. I believe I counted they've
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  Speaker 8: played forty four of them. But I wasn't nervous at
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  Speaker 8: all because I just thought they were playing with house
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  Speaker 8: money and it was going to be a loss, right.
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  Speaker 8: I just figured, Hey, this is gonna be one of
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  Speaker 8: those games where thank god it's a best of seven,
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  Speaker 8: because this was best of three, best of five, this
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  Speaker 8: loss would hurt a lot more. Well, now, Bryce Miller
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: shut me the hell up real quick, and Bryce Miller
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: pitched like the guy who in twenty twenty four was
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: the Seattle Mariner's best pitcher. That was so fun. Friday
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: was so fun. I just want to offer something real
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: quick to everybody. I did this three years ago as well.
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: You're gonna see people hopping on the bandwagon. Embrace it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: Embrace the people hopping on the bandwagon.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Guys.
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if they weren't fans in twenty twenty three.
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if they weren't fans in nineteen ninety seven.
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: It doesn't matter that you have Archimedes Poso rookie cards.
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: It doesn't matter that you still are mad that they
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: traded away Darren Bragg for Jamie Moyer, but they somehow
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: got that one right.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: Let everyone hop on, okay, let everyone experience this because
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: it makes the sport better, It makes the community better.
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: Ian you're talking all the time about how you want
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: to see the sport grow, and how these afternoon games don't.
• 17:12
  Speaker 11: Help the sport grow.
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: What helps the sport grow is a community watching this together.
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: What helps this community grow is seeing fifty thousand people
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: to one hundred thousand people hopefully when we have and
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: much more than that, when there's a World Series parade.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I hope let it be. Let it be.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: You are not entitled to being a fan of the
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: Seattle Mariners. It's going to feel even better for you
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: because you've put up with the heartbreak. But let everyone
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: on the bandwagon. It's a hell of a lot more
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: fun when you do.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Chris has so well said, and I'm glad you said that,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: because you know, as someone who spent many many years
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and was intimately covering the Seahawks, especially during the heyday,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: every road game, every home game, did miss one until
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty till the pandemic. Nothing pissed me off more
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: than when the self righteous media people would say and
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: even fans, oh, you're just twelve since twelve. Who cares?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Who cares? We went there's a parade in downtown Seattle,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and it's not crazy to say there was a half
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a million people and that's what was awesome. And I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: think that's the best thing about what's going on right
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: now with this baseball team is casual. Fans are enjoying it,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and it's bringing a world And I've I don't know
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: when it was, Andrews. Do you remember I brought this
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: up a few weeks ago something happened in our world
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And I say, oh, it was on nine eleven. I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: brought it up. Sorry, that's what it was. It was
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: nine to eleven. I said, there's We've never had a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: country more divide than we have right now. And I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: think you could say the same thing about a city,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: no matter what city is in America. It's never been
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: more divided. But right now, what can bring cities and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: towns together are sports and your love for a team,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: even if you didn't have a love for that team
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a month ago or the sport a month ago, it
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: brings everyone together. It's commonality. It's awesome. You know, walking
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: out of game what was it? Game two? At Team
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Mobile on Sunday. On the Sunday, it was just the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: vibe and see, first of all, it felt for the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: first time ever, like since I was younger, like in
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: my twenties, it felt like downtown in that area was
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: not only safe, but it was there celebrating having fun.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: No one was punching people out and whatever. It was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: just we were all together and that's what sports should
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: be about. And yeah, the twelve versus twelve since twelve,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, whoever you're saying that, I don't know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Were you in Toronto for the game when the SEAHWX
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: play the Bills there you weren't, well, then you must
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: be a bandwagon jumper. Two, Like, shut up, and I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: think what you said is true. I mentioned this on Friday.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It is my wife's birthday, and she's, you know, worth
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the point in our lives, we're like celebrating birthdays. She's like,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: we're happy to celebrate. It's great, we have a birthday.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: But he's gonna move on. We're gonna do some stuff.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And she came to my son and I that morning
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: and she knows he's a huge fan. Went to game two.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: You know, she knows that my daughter the school teacher
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: is a massive Mariners fan, and we were gonna do
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: something else and she came to me and my son
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and she said, hey, you guys want to watch the game.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I get that, you know what, Let's all watch it together.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And we did for her birthday, made a great meal,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: had both kids and their significant others over. It was
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: an awesome night. It lasted a lot longer than I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: thought it would, but it was an awesome night. And
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: that to me kind of underscores what you just said, Chris. Like,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: my wife's not a huge Mariners fan. She's a Witworth
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Pirates football fan. When her kid was playing, that was
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: about it, right, and she's a Kok fan. But we
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: all watched together, so enjoy together, enjoy it together. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: think that's so well put. I hate some of the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: things with that team and the organization and ownership and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: how they've treated some people in my business that I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: have to work with. I hate them with a passion.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Hate it. I mean, I can't express it strongly enough.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And I told myself last night, I've got to separate
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that from Dan Wilson, my favorite. I love Bullpen guys.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I'm a rolly fingers guy. Stuff like that. Yeos has
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: got he's got just bowling ball size. You know what, man,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I love it. And that's you got to separate it, Geno,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: same thing, like separate that, and That's what I'm gonna do.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And and so you know, that's the point in time
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: where at Andrew's real quick, what did this weekend mean
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to you? I mean everything I've been waiting. I'm twenty
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: eight years old, so I was four years old when
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one happened, and I obviously wasn't alive
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: when ninety five happened. So this kind of last couple
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of year stretch has been the only time I've been
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: able to really enjoy a good Mariner baseball team.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And twenty twenty two was fun.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: But this year feels different that that kind of felt
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: like we were just happy to be there. We kind
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: of talked about that a couple of times. This year
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: feels like that we're making something special out of it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: And yeah, I had different experiences in each one of
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: the Alds games. And I was actually here because I
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: had to run my own post game show and then
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: the kJ R post game show. Lots of post games
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: literally watching in your ce and the entirety of this
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: game by myself, and I honestly was excited for it
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: to be that. So it felt like I've been kind
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: of on my own with this Mariner fandom for a
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: long time, and I finally got to experience a little
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: bit of it last night with the win. I went
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: over to my family's house and watched it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And that's that's what she like, watching with Chris, watching
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: with Graham less and and you know, we've talked about
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: that a lot with Chris and Nate. Watching with your
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: kids and so that with your family. I don't want
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to get into it now. Nathan alluded to it, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's really a right answer. Mark asked
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: me earlier about you know, biggest game. I think there's
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a but I do think there's a difference between what
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: happened Friday and what happened in ninety five. Ninety five
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: we had so much uncertainty, we didn't have a ballpark.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think they can in my old man opinion,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can compare the two. But they're
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: both great in their own moments. And I don't even
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: know if it's a top five moment of all time.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna score against the Angels might be over that
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: one as well. Rick Riz is maybe his best call ever.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: But we'll leave it at that. Let's talk about the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the game coming up in a half hour. But even
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: looking back last night, let's just talk Bryce Miller, Chris.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Here's so, you've got rotation, it's Gilbert, It's it's the Rock,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It's Kirby and and and you know you've got all
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: it's woo, they all star all this. Then there's this
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: other guy. Yeah, and this other guy comes out yesterday
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and absolutely deals gives up a home run because the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Buzzer worked a springer right off the get go, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: then nothing again. How big was that last night?
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: Oh, it was so huge, and Andrews and I talked
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: about it, of course on the postcast. He has one
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: pitch that you know, he's trying to get in on springer.
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: Unfortunately it leaks out over the plate and Swinger puts
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: a good swing on it. The next guy draws a
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: twelve pitch walk that should have been a strikeout. Terrible
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: call by the Empire behind the plate, that should have
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: been out. Vlad Guerrero hits a piss missile right to
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: Julio and then he walked the next matter and I'm thinking, oh,
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: this is gonna be bad. If he can keep it
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: to two, you know, and maybe the offense can explode,
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: maybe maybe they'll be okay. But he can only give
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: up one more run. Well, not only did he got
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: give up one more run, he gave up one more
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: freaking base runner. That's what he did. He was sensational
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: and it was a reminder of guys. Bryce Miller was
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: the Mariner's best pitcher at the end of twenty twenty four,
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: easily their best pitcher in twenty twenty four. And that's
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: compliment because the guys who were also in that rotation
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: were pretty freaking good, but Bryce Miller was a wagon
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: for them. And he has pitched so well, and he
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: is also an example that, yeah, strikeouts are the best
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: thing you can get as a pitcher because you take
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: everything out of the way. You don't have to strike
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: out a ton of guys to be successful if you
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: can change eye levels like he has. And he changed
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: eye levels so well yesterday with the high fastball in
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: that low curve. He was so good and it's so encouraging,
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: not just for you know, Hey, this is the guy
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: you're probably gonna get in twenty twenty six, and it's
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: why your rotation is going to be awesome. But for
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: the rest of the series and for the rest of
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: hopefully another series after that, Bryce Miller deserves so much
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: credit for shutting down let's not I also forget. The
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: Blue Jays were absolutely dominant against the Yankees and one
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: of the best offenses at home in all of baseball period.
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: So to do that over six innings when I thought
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: two runs over four would have been a borderline miracle.
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: Thanks for shutting me the hell up, Bryce Miller.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I love your muscle, Nathan. One of the things that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: great about the playoffs is we all come up with
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: these preconceived storylines and narratives and this is what's going
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to happen, and we can kind of put put it
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: in a box. And you know, we've been saying for years,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: just get to the playoffs because this starting rotation is
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: really good. They weren't good in the regular season. Guys
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: were either banged up or they just weren't as good
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: as they've been in the past. But on paper, it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a really good rotation. And Nathan, if you're Toronto, what
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: must you be thinking right now, because Okay, their number
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: five just came out and shoved on us. Their number
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: one might be healthy for game five or six, and oh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: by the way, in between, you've got Kirby Gilbert and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the Rock. Like the storyline actually is playing out as
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: scripted for Seattle.
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, And I think one of the things that we've
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: been talking about since the trade deadline that I think
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: I knew intellectually, but then watching that game play out yesterday,
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: it's not just that Seattle one, but just watching player
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: by player, lineup by lineup, just going through that game,
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: I'm like, well, Toronto's a good team. And I'm not
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: here to say that Toronto's a bad team. They're a
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: good team, but I'm watching them position by position, player
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: by player. You look at their rotation, you look at
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: their bullpen. Is this a team that I think I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: intimidated by when I see what the Mariners are bringing
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: to the table. Absolutely not, which is why, to everyone's point,
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: yesterday's win is so huge because not only due to
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: the exhaustion that the Mariners should have been experiencing after
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: Friday's game, but just with Bryce Miller, who hasn't been
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: like not just not himself that he was last year,
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: but he was bad in twenty twenty five. He has
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: not been a fun pitcher to watch all season. There
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: has been maybe two or three starts where you feel
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: like you're seeing Bryce Miller, so to run into that,
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: and to Chris's point, you're not gonna get strikeouts against
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: this Blue Jays team. That's how you're going to beat
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: them is by getting weak contact and changing eye level
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: and getting uncomfortable swings. This is the team with the
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: lowest strikeout rate in the American League. That's how they work.
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: They put the ball in play and what Bryce did,
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: Chris hit it on the head. I think the game
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: yesterday switched when that Guerrero piss missile landed in Julio's glove,
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: because after that, I don't think Toronto hit a single
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: ball hard the entire rest of the night, and it
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: was because Bryce was so effective. So I think it's fantastic.
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: I feel like the opportunity for what they have here
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: in twenty minutes from now is they are going to
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: put this thing in a choke hold before it even
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: really gets going with a win today, and they're gonna
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: be staring down George Kirby, who has been a possessed
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: demon in the playoffs thus far, and Luis Castillo, who
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: has been absolutely wonderful in his steady self. So Toronto
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: has got to be all hands on deck and absolutely
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: terrified if they don't come out and win today's game.
• 27:58
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  Speaker 11: Not bad. I think the division's there to get I
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: really do well. And you know, the forty nine ers.
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: I don't want to utter the words God bless them
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: on this station because nobody wants to bless them here.
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: But but I mean, there's got to be a corner
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: of you that that has a little bit of empathy
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: for what they're going through. But you know what a
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: sports or sports you know, that's their problem. It's not
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: my problem with your problem. So and then and then
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: we'll see what the Rams present. But I think that
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: I think there's a good chance Seattle could get on
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: a roll and take this division. But I thought that,
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: you know, the key for me yesterday was that here
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: I was more discouraged after the Tampa Bay game than
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: any other game since the Buffalo game from a year ago.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I won't revisit.
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: That was thirty one ten win by the Bills and
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: they just dominated Seattle's defense. But what Seattle did in
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: the pass rush was really concerning. You could you could
• 32:32
  Speaker 11: explain away all the coverage mistakes by new people, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 11: the pass rush really was unforgivable. And as Mike McDonald
• 32:43
  Speaker 11: aptly said, you know too many mississippis, but this is
• 32:46
  Speaker 11: what the NFL stat portal says for against Tampa Bay.
• 32:51
  Speaker 11: The Seahawks had eight pressures yesterday against Jacksonville twenty three
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: obviously a sack against Baker Mayfield one sack seven yesterday.
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: How about this hits on the quarterback one against Tampa
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: Bay against Baker thirteen yesterday, thirteen hits on Trevor Lawrence.
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: And you know, as a consequence, they have the big
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: big plays passing plays fifteen plus ten by the Buccaneers
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: and just five yesterday. So just there's numbers everywhere that
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: support what your eyes told you, which was was really
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: dominant up front. And you know, I do want to
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: say that what Mike McDonald would say is that you
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: still have to make that happen through.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Defending the run.
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: And they continue to defend the run and that get
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: allows them to get into those hunt positions and passing down.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to get yeah, I want to go.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Let's start there with the defense for a second, because
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it was interesting last week and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: when we talked about this on hardcorew Football last week
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and just the I mean watching guys run free for Tampa,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: whether it was Igbuca or Auton or any other of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: their receivers not named Mike Evans, who was out by
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the way. I mean, it just it was just it
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: was it was incredible. But then yesterday, let's just the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: sack numbers for a second. And here's what jumps out
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: at me. Drake Thomas the linebacker got the one on
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the blitz. Obviously, DeMarcus Lawrence comes back two sacks for him,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Leonard Williams has half a sack, Bira Murphy has two,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Nuosu has one and a half for their seven total.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And yet it you know, it was a defensive line
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: or the edge guys so to speak. They're outside linebackers,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you know, and DeMarcus Lawrence getting there. But Hugh, what
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: was different about what they did to pressure Trevor Lawrence
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and Jacksonville? What was what was different?
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: Yet there was just a lot of different looks. I mean,
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: Trevor Lawrence was seeing a different front, a different personnel group.
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: They would they would protect different guys. I mean, sometimes
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: you would expect them to protect Shaq Griffin throw safety
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: over the top, but you know, sometimes they'd roll the
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: safety over the top of Josh Joe because he got
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: beat as well. So it wasn't like uh uh uh.
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: He was a guy that you always wanted to have
• 35:09
  Speaker 11: in one on one content situations. I think they they
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: understood the middle of the field. They handed off. Ernest
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: Jones was much better in in the middle of the field.
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: Drake Thomas was much better in the middlefield. Em and
• 35:21
  Speaker 11: worry uh and and uh, safety's coming down Tyle Cootta
• 35:25
  Speaker 11: when he came down, Uh in a disguise coverage and
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: he had the hook zone. They pattern read, they just met.
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: There's there's a pattern read pattern match zone pattern match
• 35:36
  Speaker 11: where they kind of say, okay, let me redirect. This
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: is the concept I think you're running and then and
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: then they get their eyes on the quarterback. They were
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: just a lot better than that. And so in each
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: of those sacks, I mean just running through them. The
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: first one, Trevor Lawrence, the NFL had a six point
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: two seconds. Uh, you know by the time he got sacked.
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: So so and on that the Seahawks the first play
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: of the game, they drop eight. Do the Seahawks.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Uh, you have.
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: DeMarcus Lawrence. He peels with a running back in the flat,
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: which means Lawrence is holding the ball. That Jaguars had
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: seven pass blockers for the Seahawks three rushers, that that
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: negative four imbalance, UH has on we haven't seen that
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: was the first time we've seen that for the defense,
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: and it's only happened one once with the offense. So
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: in four hundred and thirty six dropbacks by both quarterbacks
• 36:34
  Speaker 11: overall games of this season, we've seen it exactly twice.
• 36:36
  Speaker 11: But we saw it in the first play of the game.
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: And UH and you saw Drake Thomas in a perfect
• 36:42
  Speaker 11: position to get under Trevor Lawrence wants to throw that
• 36:45
  Speaker 11: inside curl route and Thomas and his own is there,
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: and then you see that Ernest Jones is pushing to
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: that area as well, so you get.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: The late sack.
• 36:54
  Speaker 11: You come back on third and eight, and by the
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: way of the third down sacks, there were third and
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: eight to nine and third and eleven, so you got
• 37:01
  Speaker 11: to stop the run to get into those long distance situations.
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: So so you know there on that played Leonard Williams
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: second sack. Leonard Williams just there was a big chip
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: by their tight end. He dominates that. Then he puts
• 37:14
  Speaker 11: a bullrus on their left tackle, Walker little so great
• 37:17
  Speaker 11: individual play by big Cat, but great coverage as well.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: They had.
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: I mean, it was really weird that that Drake Thomas
• 37:24
  Speaker 11: was even in there, but he was. He was bracketing
• 37:29
  Speaker 11: uh the slot receiver along with Tyle Cotta Diami Brown,
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: That's who he wanted to go to. So you had
• 37:36
  Speaker 11: two of your ostensibly worst cover guys, but they were
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: double covering, and so Trevor Lawrence didn't have anywhere to go.
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: By the way, the first three sacks into the boundary,
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: that played a factor, and then on the third sacks
• 37:49
  Speaker 11: the stunts that this is another you asked me, how
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: did they do it? A lot of stunts, much more stunts.
• 37:54
  Speaker 11: And it was if Mike McDonald said, Okay, I can't
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: just win going straight up the field with my guys,
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: at least we couldn't against Tampa Bay. Let me get
• 38:03
  Speaker 11: the stunts alive. The the end is going to come in,
• 38:06
  Speaker 11: the tackle is going to loop out. You got to
• 38:08
  Speaker 11: contain a quarterback. He's not you know, he's fast and strong,
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: but he's not immensely twitchy. We don't have to really
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: be concerned about him getting the edge, and so a
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: lot of those stunts. But but as as Jacksonville was
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: trying to throw into the boundary. The Seahawks were in
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: a four under and they were all clumped kind of
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: like in the middle of the field. So so Jacksonville,
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: by their own design, was allowing the defense to squeeze,
• 38:36
  Speaker 11: so the holes were narrow. I'll just go through a
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: couple of these rests because we are hardcore football, right,
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: do it? Yeah, just going through the the and hopefully
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: this gets a picture that things are varied and and
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: and and.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: As I said, you still have to you have.
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: What was an important theme is is yes, there was
• 38:59
  Speaker 11: much more activity, much more effort. I thought that that
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: d Law looked like a linebacker, look like he lost
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: weight when he was heard or something. I mean, he
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: was so quick.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I looked up. I thought, is this guy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: From Jacksonville, he just playing from his home. Well, he's
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: from South Carolina, so it's not far. Maybe his family
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: made the trip and some friends. But but he was
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: playing like he was playing in front of family. But
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: but but uh uh uh. There's the one play. And
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: this is Oregon's favorite play. In fact, when I coach
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: high school, we called it Oregon and John Gruden calls it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 11: Uh you know why cross, but but any event the
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: X had to cover. You had Tyree Knight. He had
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: to cover the tight end on the so the first
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: look he had to be there. And then you watch
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: the end zone copy. You watched Trevor Lawrence. He says, Okay,
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: Tyree Snake's got my tight end and now he wants
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: to come back on the on the in route and
• 39:53
  Speaker 11: uh Emon Warry is covering the in route. So it
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: starts with being in the right place in in zone cover,
• 40:00
  Speaker 11: which creates the quarterback holding the ball, and then and
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: then the the Jaguars, there's an element what they did
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: there was twice where it might have been three times.
• 40:08
  Speaker 11: We got sacks on what's called power pass where they
• 40:11
  Speaker 11: were pulling the guard to make it look more like
• 40:13
  Speaker 11: a run on play action. But when you pull the guard,
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: that's where Byron Murphy was having more space to operate
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: in against the center because momentarily there's a little gap
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: and and Murphy was quick enough to get in there.
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: Let's just hit on three more as I said, stunts
• 40:32
  Speaker 11: galore and oh Drake Thomas just threw the left tackle
• 40:39
  Speaker 11: for Jacksonville six seven and three eight six seven and
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: a half three twenty five and we got this little
• 40:45
  Speaker 11: itty bitty week side linebacker tossed him around. That was
• 40:50
  Speaker 11: on a play action where whereas as soon as jreveror
• 40:53
  Speaker 11: Lawrence turns around, you know there's there's forty two and
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: then and then uh, lastly you had you know, Mafey
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: Uh he wins out on the edge and d law
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: wins out on the edge and then Nuosa falls into
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: the sack. So that was that was a what I
• 41:09
  Speaker 11: would call fast sacks most of them. Most of them weren't.
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: But but when you get into the long yardist situation
• 41:16
  Speaker 11: in you can you can man your four man rush.
• 41:19
  Speaker 11: You can put defensive tackles. They had they had once
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: where they had uh DeMarcus Lawrence's defensive tackle, boy mafi
• 41:27
  Speaker 11: as A as a defensive tackle. You had Leonard Williams
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: on the outside and you had uh Nuosa on the other.
• 41:36
  Speaker 11: So you got four guys who have the twitchiness of
• 41:40
  Speaker 11: a defensive end. And so when you stunt those guys, uh,
• 41:44
  Speaker 11: now there's quickness on both the inside and the outside
• 41:48
  Speaker 11: and they can contain. And so just throwing a lot
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: at the Jaguars schematically and and you know, so there
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: wasn't really one where you say, well, they did this
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: and they got all those sacks. No, they did a lot,
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: They did everything and they got all those sacks.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? It does, And I want to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: go back to the zone for a second because I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: think it's important. By the way, the Mafe things interesting.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy had one tackle, but you mentioned
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: he did make an impact elsewhere. He played in forty
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: seven percent of snaps to boy Mafey. If you would
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: have told me going into a game, the Seas are
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: gonna have seven sacks, Boy Mafey is not going to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: have any. Derek Hall is not even playing in the game.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what, like, where are they coming from? But
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you're right, DeMarcus Lawrence look fantastic. Drake Thomas, I got
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to just emphasize what you said about his size. We
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: had him on the show here on Wednesday last week
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and I asked him that. I said, listen, you're an
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Why like I'm guessing against because everyone
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: told you you're too small. He goes, absolutely, people told
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: me I'm too small, and you know that's why I've
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: been cut and battling for a roster spot. But give him.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Credit man, the guy's battled his way and made an impact.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: But I want to get to zone defense for a second,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: because you know, anybody who's played basketball, and let's just
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: go back to our youth, right like we're kids. You know,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I'm playing for our Lady of Atom. I'm playing cyo
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: ball and we're playing a two three zone. Tallest guys
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in the middle, next two tallest guys are playing on
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the wing, the two guards are playing up top, and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's a zone, and it's just it's it is. Anybody
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: who's played basketball at a higher level knows there's way
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: way more to it. Discipline, understanding responsibilities. You know where
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: you're going to be in football. Walk me through the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: successful zone defense. What needs to happen, because I got
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to think it in some ways, I have to think
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: outside of going against the fast guy that maybe it's
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: more athletic than you. Playing man would be somewhat easier
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: h than playing zone because zone that feels like there's
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of responsibilities. But they seem to as you're
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: just articulating those sacks. They nailed it yesterday, yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: They and they did have some mando man in the
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: second half, and they and they were playing combo coverages
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: where they're playing mann and man on the weak side.
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: They were playing zone on the front. I mean they
• 43:50
  Speaker 11: really gave the Jaguars as I described today. You know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 11: the the the Chili's menu, you know, like twelve page
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: menu and and it was in subtleties. But but what
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: happens is you need to know where where, where exactly
• 44:11
  Speaker 11: your responsibilities are, Like you have you have your area
• 44:15
  Speaker 11: as the name, you know the zone. You have your
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: zone right, and if a guy comes into your area,
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: you got to follow him the proper amount of steps.
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: It's like goldilocks in the porridge, not too hot, not
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: too cold. You can't follow your guy for too little
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: and ignore him as if he's not there. You know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 11: that's just what some people call uh Sabing notably called it. Well,
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: that's just country zone.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 44:40
  Speaker 11: You just drop into a spot you're not even aware
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: of anything, you know, like that's what they play in
• 44:44
  Speaker 11: the country. Just you know, so you can't you can't.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: Cover your guy too little, but you can't cover him
• 44:54
  Speaker 11: too much. Like it's man, you have to know where
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: your help is because good offensive play design and we'll
• 45:00
  Speaker 11: have you know the tight end will come. He'll run
• 45:03
  Speaker 11: on a shallow cross and he'll stop right in front
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: of the end. Here you come, and you see him
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: come because your eyes are you know, as a linebacker,
• 45:10
  Speaker 11: you're dropping back and you you know, you see it.
• 45:12
  Speaker 11: It's easy to be influenced by him. So you wanna
• 45:15
  Speaker 11: you wanna take the bait. You want to jump the
• 45:18
  Speaker 11: cookie and and then, but you can't see the intermediate
• 45:22
  Speaker 11: cut behind you. So you have to be aware exactly
• 45:25
  Speaker 11: of where your spacing are. Cover your guys for just
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: long enough, but not too long because you've got help.
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: You got to know where your help is.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: How much trust has to be there, though, Hugh, because
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you just mentioned and there's a play they showed on
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: TV yesterday. I think Joe kind of was expecting help
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: behind him, right and it didn't come or it came late.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Like like how much trust do you have? And how
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: much discipline does it take? Because it's like, WHOA, my
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: help's not there should be there? Do I do I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: bail on it? Or what have you? It just feels
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: like discipline is discipline and trust as well as knowing
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: your assignment are huge, are they not?
• 45:56
  Speaker 11: Yeah, you gotta you gotta be believe that your guy's
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: gonna be there and that if you hand it off,
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: that he's gonna be there to take it. Uh. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: you know same same in run defense. You know, you've
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: got to have your gap right and you know the
• 46:10
  Speaker 11: communication piece on the fly. And that might be one
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: of the reasons why they're better on the road because
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: you know, you see, Julian Love is a quarterback. Yeah, exactly,
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: they're not loud for the opposing offense, right, Uh and
• 46:26
  Speaker 11: the home offense, I should say, and so you see
• 46:29
  Speaker 11: Julian Love. I'll give you example of what was happening
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: to Jacksonville was running a lot of trips formation with
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: a nub all right, if I write my if I
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: write in my notes, you know trips right nub. Okay,
• 46:40
  Speaker 11: what does that tell me? Three receivers to the right
• 46:42
  Speaker 11: nub tight end. That's the tight end on the backside
• 46:45
  Speaker 11: away from the three receivers. But he's lined up next
• 46:48
  Speaker 11: to the tackle. So they were nubbing a lot of
• 46:51
  Speaker 11: their formations to help because they're left tackle. I thought, man,
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: there's times where I go in and I do a
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: Friday pregame. Uh, and I don't think I got to
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: it because it was an important point. But I had
• 47:04
  Speaker 11: thought Walker Little had kind of played pretty decent the
• 47:07
  Speaker 11: left tackle. He was really struggling, uh and and seel
• 47:11
  Speaker 11: exposed him and I mean he was terrible. And so
• 47:16
  Speaker 11: Jacksonville was trying to nub up and help and chip
• 47:20
  Speaker 11: and keep you know, wide edges to help their left tackle.
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: And so what then you see the Seahawks Immediately they're
• 47:28
  Speaker 11: like rolling more to the trip side. They're like, hey,
• 47:31
  Speaker 11: we've got we've only got one receiver on our side
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: who happens to be a tight end in the inline position,
• 47:37
  Speaker 11: and he's trying to help the tackle.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: So now let's like, let's roll.
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: This dude this thing and really get over the top
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: of the three receivers. So you can see Kobe Bryant,
• 47:48
  Speaker 11: he's just like he's gesture with his arm like get
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: over there right at this, you know, on set of
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: the play. And undoubtedly he's screaming while he's doing it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: He's gesturing and he's screaming and it can be heard
• 47:59
  Speaker 11: on the and so they're making. So they're they're they're making,
• 48:04
  Speaker 11: they're making. How many times have you heard Mike McDonald
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: say communication is key to what they do well.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Hugh, I'm glad you said that. I was thinking that
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the whole time because when we when when he first
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: got hired, our first conversations in mini camp and hell
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: OTA's back in spring of twenty twenty four and early
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty four, I remember talking to Jaron
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Reid and even Julian Love about that, and they both
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: said that they said, the hardest thing with this defense
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald is their communication is priority number one
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: and it's going to take a while to get that down.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And that I mean, that's they every player of fact
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: that we've talked on defense has talked about that.
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, well and and you know, and and the
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: thing is is when it's right, it's so right, and
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: it's like everybody's tied together and you get things off
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: a little bit like like, for example, against Tampa Bay,
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: the Buccaneers run was probably but they ran a tight
• 49:01
  Speaker 11: end on a shell cross late in the game was critical.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, And.
• 49:06
  Speaker 11: You know the way they ran the construction and they're
• 49:07
  Speaker 11: trying to influence defenders, but at one point you could
• 49:11
  Speaker 11: stop and you say, Ernest Jones in the middle of
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: the field, he literally did a three sixty like he
• 49:17
  Speaker 11: thought it was a boot. It wasn't boot. It was
• 49:19
  Speaker 11: boot what I call Boston boot stop. And he did
• 49:25
  Speaker 11: a full three sixty. Now that's fine if you're watching
• 49:27
  Speaker 11: figure skating, but I don't want to see defenders do
• 49:30
  Speaker 11: a full circle pillouette out there. And then and then
• 49:36
  Speaker 11: we got Okada. So the window between Ernest Jones, who's
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: doing a three sixty and ty Okatta who should who
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: should be the next one over? Jones should be the hook,
• 49:47
  Speaker 11: Ocada should be the curl. Okada reads the wheel route
• 49:51
  Speaker 11: like he runs to this cheese and he's like, okay,
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: I got the wheeler. Probably he's like three feet away
• 49:56
  Speaker 11: from a teammate who was the flat defender who was
• 50:00
  Speaker 11: gonna have the wheel route. Anyways, You're like, thirty nine,
• 50:03
  Speaker 11: what are you doing? Why are you covering the wheel route?
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: You've got help out there? Know where your help is?
• 50:08
  Speaker 11: Ernest Jones, dude, you know, get off the get off
• 50:11
  Speaker 11: the ice rink, you know, like and it's just like
• 50:14
  Speaker 11: bat and then all of a sudden, now a guy
• 50:15
  Speaker 11: catches a shallow cross balls only in the air for
• 50:17
  Speaker 11: seven yards, and he runs up the field and he's
• 50:21
  Speaker 11: tackled for either getting twelve yard games on stuff, and
• 50:24
  Speaker 11: you're like, wait a minute, if you're gonna play zone
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: like that, you're never gonna win.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: And that was seven days ago.
• 50:31
  Speaker 11: And so now, like the I described the first play
• 50:34
  Speaker 11: of the game, you know just about how guys have
• 50:37
  Speaker 11: to be in position, and and so they're trying first
• 50:40
  Speaker 11: play the game. They're trying to go play action and
• 50:42
  Speaker 11: get a nice seventeen yard rip curl down the middle
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: with Brian Thomas influenced with play action. And you know,
• 50:50
  Speaker 11: they had probably seen, hey, we can spin Ernest Jones
• 50:53
  Speaker 11: around like a top yep, you know. And and so
• 50:56
  Speaker 11: that's what they're trying to do right over the middlefield,
• 50:58
  Speaker 11: right in that area. And you see that that the
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: linebacker forty two, he's gonna come out and and uh
• 51:10
  Speaker 11: and Drake Thomas, Thomas, he's gonna widen. That's now, if
• 51:14
  Speaker 11: he kept widening, he would open up. I'm why I
• 51:18
  Speaker 11: watched the ends one copy. You know, fifty years playing
• 51:21
  Speaker 11: and coaching or studying this position. If if Drake Thomas
• 51:25
  Speaker 11: keeps widening, I want that I'm turning. I'm putting my
• 51:29
  Speaker 11: foot loose and I'm ripping that crop. Yeah, okay, but
• 51:33
  Speaker 11: after he takes three steps diagonally, he flattens up and
• 51:37
  Speaker 11: he goes vertical, he goes, he goes, he goes widens
• 51:41
  Speaker 11: diagonally enough to influence the slot receiver Brian Thomas Junior,
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: the other LSU receiver not named Elik Neighbors, first round
• 51:50
  Speaker 11: draft pick, had like thirteen hundred yards last year. He's
• 51:53
  Speaker 11: a very quiet, young star receiver. They're trying to get
• 51:57
  Speaker 11: him over the middle. If Drake Thomas, who is not
• 52:00
  Speaker 11: in the right spot, Trevor Lawrence rips that thing. And
• 52:04
  Speaker 11: by the way, after he uh, there's a point where
• 52:09
  Speaker 11: Thomas can can curl into the middle and respond to
• 52:13
  Speaker 11: where uh I'm saying, I'm using two Thomas's. Brian Thomas,
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: the receiver can curl in the middle and Ernest and
• 52:20
  Speaker 11: where Drake Thomas was, so he can kind of say, okay,
• 52:23
  Speaker 11: Drake Thomas, you're here, let me let me just go
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: into the middle of the field more uh, towards the center. Well,
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: then Ernest Jones has to be in that spot. So
• 52:31
  Speaker 11: so where we were seeing poor awareness of of of
• 52:35
  Speaker 11: how to close holes a week ago, now all of
• 52:38
  Speaker 11: a sudden they're just air tight, and and and so
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: and and then.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Now you have the quarterbacks going where do I go?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Where do I go?
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: He holds the ball six point two seconds and then
• 52:48
  Speaker 11: if you if all you do is you read say well,
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: Biron Murphy, Biron Murphy got the sack, and you say, oh,
• 52:54
  Speaker 11: Bier Murphy had a great game. Buyer Murphy had a
• 52:57
  Speaker 11: hell of a game. But have a great play on
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: that play. He didn't win anything on that. That was
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: a combination team and a multifaceted.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Answer to how you get a sack. I love it,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. That's a great explant. And just
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: go back and watch first play the game and it's
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: and we were watching it as watching with my kid
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and we're like, oh wow, I mean, how much time
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: does he have? And he's gonna get there at some
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: point and it was done. Well, let me do this, OK,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: take a quick break, come back. We got factor fiction.
• 53:24
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  Speaker 1: something we got to We'll have a few minutes with
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the offense to wrap up the show. You have more
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  Speaker 1: for today with Softy, by the way, but I have
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to ask you this question. Has he ever seen a
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: team go one for twelve on third downs? And win
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: a football game. Will ask him about that coming up
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  Speaker 1: Oregon had less than one hundred yards of offense in
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: the second half at home at Austin Stadium where it
• 55:02
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  Speaker 1: seven and a half versus the Rams. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 1: the Cooper Rush horror show again. Derek Henry remembered he
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: was Derek Henry ran for overe hundred yards.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So they they're defensively, they look good in the first half.
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  Speaker 6: Cooper gets hurt and then that happened.
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  Speaker 1: We had a two and two week. MJ in the
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they see on Friday, I see that
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  Speaker 1: not take a pick, just being a healthy scratch exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So everyone actually, I mean five hundred usually good, and
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going California minus ten fact at home
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  Speaker 1: me get to this. He one for twelve, We got
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: about six minutes here, We got one for twelve on
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: third down, and they win a football game. Now, we
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: just spent the first part of the hour talking about
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: the defense and the adjustments and that zone and how
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: they just improved dramatically from one week to the next.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: But I got a question for you. One for You're
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: not gonna win a lot of football games going one
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: for twelve. Offensively, we can probably say, hey, we like
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's game to a certain point. Rushing the football
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: is still a challenge. I still have to ask you
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: why the hell is charboney and getting the same number
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: of carries as ken Walker? But what do you make
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: of one for twelve on third down?
• 59:45
  Speaker 11: Well, I obviously would acknowledge that you you've got to
• 59:50
  Speaker 11: clean that number up. I would say there's an offset
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: to it that they you know, and having you want
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: to have this third down in shorts instead of the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 11: third and longs.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: We should touch on that because you talk about this,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's a important thing. What's a successful play
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: in the NFL.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: That's forty percent of the needed yards on first down
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 11: sixty percent of the needed yards on second down, and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: then all of the needed yards on third and four.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 11: So so being on schedule is really important. I mean
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 11: they were in the passing game yesterday they were only
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: on schedule fifty two percent of the time. I mean
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: even against you know, the prior week, they were on
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: schedule sixty seven percent of the time, So they dipped
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: a little bit of that. Now, the third down conversions,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 11: of those, they only had one third down conversion in
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: the running game, and so I think most of those.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: I got to go back and look at the numbers,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 11: but you know that's not all on the passing game.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 11: But I would say how you win with those type
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 11: of numbers is obviously be explosive in the early downs.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: And we were really lamenting after the forty nine er
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 11: game Week one, where's the play action game? We spent
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 11: the whole summer talking about the play action game. I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 11: gave you the numbers all summer that Sam Darnold is
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: the second most frequent last year as a Viking quarterback
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 11: in play action to Jared Goff, but number one in
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 11: passer rating and all these different splits from play Action.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 11: It's like, hey, use this man, that's part of his
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 11: skill set. Well, yesterday they had eight attempts, one hundred
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 11: and eighty three yards and one hundred and thirty five
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: passer rating out of play action. Here's another trend that
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: really showed up on those early downs that allowed you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: to win despite the future third down numbers. You go
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: an eleven personnel excuse me, twelve personnel with one running
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: back and two tight ends. So we're seeing Barner really right,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: and we've gone from yard These are past yardage totals
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 11: in twelve personnel in six games. We've gone from four
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 11: yards against the forty nine ers, then sixty three, then
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 11: ninety one, then one oh three, then one eighty seven,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 11: then two fourteen yesterday you probably noticed each one of
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 11: those was more than the prior week, and so they're
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 11: really hammering that personnel group. Barner, I gotta tell you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 11: I was slow to come around on him. I thought
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 11: he was just kind of just a guy, a guy,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 11: you know. I thought, well, well we got the we
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 11: got Michigan's other tight end. Yes, Holston Loveland, you know
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 11: when you watched Michigan, number eighteen was running out there
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: like you know the Kellen Winslow senior. Ye, you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 11: like like whoa, I want number eighteen. And then he's like,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: well the other guy. We got the other guy. You know,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 11: we got the redhead. We got the redheaded tight end
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 11: for Michigan. You know he's not redheaded, but you get
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 11: get your point. Yeah, and and and I'll tell you what,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 11: man twenty twenty five, he is making a believer out
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 11: of me. I mean the pass blocking on the on
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 11: the on the touchdown pass that uh to Cooper Cup yep,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: an absolute thing of beauty. I mean that is that's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 11: quarterback porn right there. I'm telling you how quickly he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: got rid of that ball, how the placement walked it
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 11: out there to him so early, oblivious to the rush.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 11: I mean, that is such a high level execution of quarterback.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 11: I can't even tell you because when you watch when
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 11: his hands separate from the ball, Donald's hands, Cooper Cup
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 11: has got his back to you, and he's still going
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 11: up the field like as you know, he could be
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 11: running a post for all anybody knows, but Darnald's gotta
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 11: just so Nope, I know exactly where he's going to be,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 11: and he just dots that thing over by the sideline.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 11: But but on that play Barner he had he had
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 11: to block their their their highest paid defensive end, Josh
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 11: heines Allen. Now you probably don't know Josh heinz Allen.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: It's not like he had you know, it's Nick Boser
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 11: or some of these recognizable names. But he's the second
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 11: highest paid guy on the Jaguars, behind Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And he's over there.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 11: He's higher paid than the highest paid Seahawk, Leonard Williams.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 11: Big Cat is the number one cap hit. Sam Darnold
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 11: is number two. This dude, Josh heinz Allen, has a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 11: higher cap hit than Leonard Williams, higher than anybody on
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks. And they got aj Barner out there on
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: a critical opportunity to get a touchdown and he's blocking
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: him one on one. Wow a tight end. Now did
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 11: he dominate him like Walter Jones? No, but he gave
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: it enough that a quarterback who's playing at a very
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: very high level, I'd give Baker Mayfield the MVP if
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 11: I was voting, I wouldn't even hesitate. But now what's
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 11: the next level?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: Now he is like you could get an argument a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: is he a candidate for second Team All Pro. Yeah,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 11: he for sure is an art I think he'd be
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: a slam dunk in the Pro Bowl. Well, you know
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 11: the you know, three guys in the NFC right now,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 11: so uh, you know he's playing at that level. And uh,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 11: but you know, good stuff's gotta happen around him and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 11: and a J.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Barner. You know that.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 11: That that the twelve personnel. Now we've got to get
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 11: the rookie going. And you say which rookie, Well, actually
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 11: both because I misspoke, because Hunter Horton and uh Horton,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah Horton and Royal Hugh. Listen, I'm gonna give you.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna give you an hour off. I'm playing management today.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna give you a one hour off that baseball.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't worry about that today the day
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: in the sunshine. Yeah, but no, I'm gonna give you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: an hour off and then you know what you got next?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: You got more at four with Dave Softy Maller. You
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: might have heard of him, Dave Softy mall He's he'll
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: be yelling and screaming from the Emeral Queen Casino with you.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: More at four, coming up at four o'clock with Hugh Millon.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Softy's coming up next. That's it for us, Thanks buddy,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week, all right, you bet
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: we'll toss it to Softy. The QUC coming up next
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: to you for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable infurness.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: This is paddle day, saying so long everyone,