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Patriots Unfiltered 9/11: Seahawks Preview, Practice Report, Brady's Broadcasting Debut · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the very first.
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  Speaker 2: Who am I even? I'm proud of you.
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  Speaker 4: I would say he's a little better than Evan makes
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  Speaker 4: him out to be, but not a time I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not putting. I would just see White's fit after
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 4: He's always got He's always got cool being unhipped.
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  Speaker 2: Are they glizzies? What's that?
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  Speaker 5: Glizzie?
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  Speaker 6: It's just another name for it.
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  Speaker 2: Who gave you that name? I just picture Paul on
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  Speaker 2: the Yeah, on the Renegade motion sofa and that kind
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  Speaker 2: of go berserk. It's like this, watching the game and
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  Speaker 2: die over the place the Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here
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  Speaker 2: at you Let's Stadium. We're talking Patriots for the next
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  Speaker 2: couple hours and whatever else comes to mind. It's Paul,
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  Speaker 2: it's me, Deuce, We'll be here, Evan will be here.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the locker room right now. Yes, talking to
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  Speaker 2: the guys.
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  Speaker 4: Finished. We heard from Gerrodmeo, Jacoby Brissett, David Andrews had
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  Speaker 4: come in. That's when I left to come to see you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that they were heading into the locker
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  Speaker 4: room after that. But I just love that. I love
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  Speaker 4: the open today. It's just like, you know, one win,
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  Speaker 4: completely changed, Like we're all smiling, laughing. It really does,
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  Speaker 4: you know, talking about the guy's fit. Glizzies, you're the Bengals.
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  Speaker 4: You're how proud you are of your children.
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  Speaker 2: Your shows are all positive. It's it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 8: One day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's we're back to Homerville. But that's fine. It's
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  Speaker 2: one week. We got another challenge coming up with the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday is the turn the page day. It's typically under Belichick,
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  Speaker 2: and I assume under Gerard it's the same thing. This
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  Speaker 2: is the day that they get their game plan. It's
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  Speaker 2: the you know, the day where they find out how
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  Speaker 2: are they going to attack the Seattle Seahawks and what
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  Speaker 2: what can they expect from the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 8: Early today, you know tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I know they're going to be in pads today, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe you'll get some some goal lines to
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, this is the day that
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  Speaker 2: they start preparing for the Seattle Seahawks in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the players. So what do you think? I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: we talked about Week one and two are the toughest
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  Speaker 2: weeks to pick games other than the last week of
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  Speaker 2: the season when you don't know who's playing. But Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: had a good game last week. They I picked the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: I was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they were okay, they were a little sloppy,
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  Speaker 4: but I think they were a much better team. I
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  Speaker 4: think the game kind of was closer on the scoreboard
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  Speaker 4: than it was on the field, if that makes any sense.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think there's a lot of similarities, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and looking at I did try to watch a good
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  Speaker 4: chunk of that second half when I got home, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with my red zone viewing. And you know, Mike McDonald's
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  Speaker 4: youngest head coach in football, Gered Mayo is right behind
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  Speaker 4: second Youngestty. I think they're thirty seven and thirty eight.
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  Speaker 4: They want to play defense, both teams. They want to
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  Speaker 4: run the ball. Both teams they want to be physical.
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  Speaker 4: I would say that one thing that Seattle has at
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots don't is a little bit more explosiveness at
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  Speaker 4: the receiver spot. But I don't know how much that
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  Speaker 4: comes into play because I don't really think they like
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  Speaker 4: to play that way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, is that because of Geno Smith?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's the way they play in general. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, they haven't really had you know, since Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: You're whole thing like let Russ Cook. That's where that
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  Speaker 4: dult Cook thing started with Russell Wilson when he was
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  Speaker 4: sort of in his prime and it never really works.
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  Speaker 4: That was kind of the downfall of Russell Wilson's time
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  Speaker 4: in Seattle. So Pete Carroll always wanted to run the ball.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like the Seahawks want to play in a
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  Speaker 4: similar way.
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  Speaker 2: What They've got some talent on offense they do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they have three good receivers with Metcalf, Lockett In,
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  Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigba and yeah, a decent tight end. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker is a really forget Yeah, he is the backup.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I actually saw that on the
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  Speaker 4: depth of Farrow. But you know, Kenneth Walker's are really
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  Speaker 4: good back and that's what they lean on. Now here's
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  Speaker 4: a you know, a big X factor. He had a
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  Speaker 4: great game in the opener against Denver, had over one
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  Speaker 4: hundred yards with about eleven minutes left from the game.
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  Speaker 4: He had a leaf. Didn't play anything in the last
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  Speaker 4: two series as they're trying to run the clock out,
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  Speaker 4: so he had an abdominal problem. He, I guess told
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  Speaker 4: reporters after the game that he's good. But I think
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  Speaker 4: T Higgins said after the Thursday practice that he pulled
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  Speaker 4: his hamstring, that he was good, and he didn't practice
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  Speaker 4: Friday and didn't play in the game. So that's something
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  Speaker 4: worth monitoring because I think that's a much different situation
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  Speaker 4: with Zach Sharboney as their backup running back.
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  Speaker 8: He's not Kenneth.
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  Speaker 2: Walker, right. So, and then on defense, I'm just looking
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  Speaker 2: at Leonard Williams.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they have, I mean they have. You know,
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  Speaker 4: last year this is kind of similar to Cincinnati. They
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  Speaker 4: were not very good stopping them. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 4: they were even worse than the Bengals stopping the run
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  Speaker 4: last year. Just looking at the first game, looks like
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  Speaker 4: they addressed that. They were much much better, and most
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  Speaker 4: of the rushing yards they did allow against Denver were
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  Speaker 4: on bow Nick scrambles, not designed runs by Bonnix, just
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  Speaker 4: him running for his life. They had a lot of Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they got a lot of pressure on the on the
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  Speaker 4: rookie quarterback, and I think he had over thirty of
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  Speaker 4: their ninety yards like they didn't. They couldn't run the
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  Speaker 4: ball at all. So Leonard Williams been a good player
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  Speaker 4: for a long time. They have some beef upfront, Jonathan Hankins,
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  Speaker 4: and I know they drafted Byron Murphy. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 4: how much he's factored in already, but they were much
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  Speaker 4: better against the run in the in Week one than
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  Speaker 4: they were last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm thinking, you know, even though you got
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks traveling across country for a one o'clock game,
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  Speaker 2: I think this is going to be more of a
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  Speaker 2: challenge than last week. And we're going to get to
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  Speaker 2: our picks tomorrow, but.
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  Speaker 4: It'll definitely be more in a challenge. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: there's any because I think Seattle will play hard. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think Cincinnati was mentally.
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  Speaker 8: Ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: Something was wrong there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think in retrospect, and I'm not
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  Speaker 4: trying to make excuses for you know, you got it right.
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  Speaker 4: I said that to you yesterday and I got it wrong.
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  Speaker 4: But I think I personally underestimated the amount of drama
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  Speaker 4: that was going on. I listened to Mike Reheese talk
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  Speaker 4: about that this morning. He and I talked about it
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  Speaker 4: yesterday when we were filming All Access, Like, sometimes you
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  Speaker 4: forget like these guys are human beings, right, and that
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  Speaker 4: plays a role. You know, t Higgins, whether or not
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  Speaker 4: he's irritated having a play Trey Hendrickson, you know, wanted
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  Speaker 4: to trade earlier in the offseason, ended up coming in
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  Speaker 4: and playing. Jamar Chase skipped the entirety of of camp,
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  Speaker 4: so how ready was he? And then mentally those guys
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  Speaker 4: like if you if you're Jamar Chase and you know,
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  Speaker 4: will close the book on Cincinnati, you know obviously now,
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  Speaker 4: But if you're Jamar Chase and you see like T
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  Speaker 4: Higgins has done everything that they've asked, like and they
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  Speaker 4: franchise them, why won't they give him a contract? They're
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  Speaker 4: gonna do the same thing to me next year? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'll come back and play but you know,
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  Speaker 4: the next year, I'm gonna need my I want my contract,
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  Speaker 4: and they're gonna give me the fifty year option and
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not gonna get my money either. I want
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  Speaker 4: to mentally that I think that weighs on you.
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  Speaker 2: I just wonder what that franchise if for different reasons,
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  Speaker 2: like Andrew Luck, if Joe Burrow is going to be
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  Speaker 2: wasted talent.
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  Speaker 4: I heard someone say this about Joe Burrow is going
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  Speaker 4: to be Andrew Luck, and I don't think it's the world.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he's been beaten up like he has.
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  Speaker 2: Injuries, I said, for different reasons like but I don't
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  Speaker 2: they just won't support.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like that they can't get out of their
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  Speaker 4: own way still. And I think they did a lot
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  Speaker 4: of things right Cincinnati, and they got to the bottom
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  Speaker 4: of the league and got the number one overall pick,
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  Speaker 4: and since then they've done a lot of good things. Yea,
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  Speaker 4: But now they're not taking care of that and they're
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  Speaker 4: not making sure that that good stuff continues.
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  Speaker 2: Only bad things can happen to them, all right, So
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  Speaker 2: we turned the page. Did you happen to hear coach Mayo?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I was in I was in on Mayo. You know,
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  Speaker 4: can I have observationally, you know, just we've now had
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  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know whatever it is two months
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  Speaker 4: worth of you know, mostly daily updates from drive mail.
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  Speaker 4: I wish that you wouldn't tell us what we think
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  Speaker 4: of everybody all the time. Like he's always saying, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you guys don't know much about Reminder Steve.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like he he doesn't have you know, Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he really pops off the tape. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what his Madden rating is or you know,
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  Speaker 4: you guys don't know how good he is. Like why
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  Speaker 4: does he always have to tell us what we you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like if you think, like you
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  Speaker 4: think Pete covering the Patriots, don't understand that Rminder Stevenson's
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  Speaker 4: pretty good. Yeah, right, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And like that's that's one of my takeaways, Like he's
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  Speaker 4: kind of always.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't bring your own perceptions into the discussion until
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  Speaker 2: you're asked.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like like two years ago, Reminder Stevenson had
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  Speaker 4: over you know, like eleven hundred yards rushing and he
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  Speaker 4: caught like sixty seven passes. I think people think that
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  Speaker 4: Mirander Stevenson's a pretty good player when he's healthy, right,
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  Speaker 4: and the key is keeping him healthy.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things that like, like, you know, like crutches. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: when I think Gerard has one of those, like he
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  Speaker 4: he sort of throws it in there. Like in another
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  Speaker 4: one today, he was like, you know, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: you guys will stop asking me the quarterback. Now we
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  Speaker 4: know who's playing, so you guys will stop asking me
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  Speaker 4: the offensive line questions and the quarterback. But like, like,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm a writer and I want to ask how
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  Speaker 4: Drake May is doing, I'm going to feel I should
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  Speaker 4: feel comfortable enough to do that.
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  Speaker 2: It's another way of leading the witness. Maybe I don't know, but.
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  Speaker 4: But nothing too pressing. I didn't think, Yeah I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear most of it because I was doing
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  Speaker 2: something else. And then I tuned in and I just
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  Speaker 2: caught the tail end and he was talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe remandre O run for one hundred and fifty yards,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Jacoby will throw for three hundred. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Like what was he what was that?
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  Speaker 4: I think he's sort of trying to get away from
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just going to let you know what
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  Speaker 4: the game plan is right a week, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean. I think that was an effort to do that.
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  Speaker 4: He did talk about having some confidence in the ability
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  Speaker 4: to change, you know, within the game, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: like we we might want to run the ball, but
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  Speaker 4: if the game doesn't unfold that way, we feel pretty
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  Speaker 4: comfortable because we were able to do that last week, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we were able to sort of change. Then it's funny
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  Speaker 4: because Brissette came out and said, oh, you know, we
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  Speaker 4: basically ran the same play over and over and over
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  Speaker 4: again because they couldn't stop it, you know.
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  Speaker 8: So I thought those two things were kind of conflicting.
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  Speaker 4: We got by the way, as Jacoby Brissett came out
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  Speaker 4: right after Mayo, he sat down, had just started his
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  Speaker 4: press brieving, and Mayo came back in with an orange
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  Speaker 4: enose hoodie that Brissett had to wear because NC State
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  Speaker 4: got obliterated by Tennessee. So I guess that was on
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  Speaker 4: behalf of Girod Mayo and Joe Milton. There you go
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  Speaker 4: the Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: We got lucky on on our content team because for
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  Speaker 2: the Bengals game, we miked up Ramandre Stevenson. Yes, so
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  Speaker 2: I think if that's not already on patries dot com,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be out soon. I think, is it
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  Speaker 2: out there yet? I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we got lucky, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I do know that we had Stevenson micd up. I
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  Speaker 4: haven't yeah, I haven't heard any of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. So we're going to effort to get a player
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  Speaker 2: miked up for every game. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen, but we've got somebody in the works
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  Speaker 2: for next week. I can't tell that yet now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I will not remember all the different players. But
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  Speaker 4: Gerard opened the press conference by explaining how after wins
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  Speaker 4: he will be announcing the practice players of the week.
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  Speaker 8: You know guys that that were.
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  Speaker 2: It, the black shirt guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if they wear black shirts. The
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  Speaker 4: way that Bill used to do this would be another thing.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I'm gonna give you a little forecasting.
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  Speaker 4: There'll be people on the radio today that say Bill
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  Speaker 4: would have never done that, right, right when Bill did
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  Speaker 4: it every week, But but he didn't announce them. He
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  Speaker 4: put them in black jerseys. And if you went out
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  Speaker 4: to practice and did your job, you knew who those
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  Speaker 4: guys were right. So it was like Eric Johnson, Joe
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  Speaker 4: Milton was one of them. I think Kayshawn Booty was
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  Speaker 4: one of them.
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  Speaker 8: And there was.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of practice squad names that I wasn't overly
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  Speaker 4: familiar with, Oshawan someone not. Zimman is a different guy
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  Speaker 4: that has only been here for a short time. But
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  Speaker 4: he sing it was probably like a half dozen players.
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  Speaker 4: He singled them out for being really instrumental.
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  Speaker 2: In the dirty prep.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the prep work, the scout team work. So he
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  Speaker 4: wanted to recognize those guys.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is good.
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  Speaker 2: The team reck ignition stuff, much like the captain's patch.
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  Speaker 2: You know, your captain wear the patch, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: why are we hiding it?
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  Speaker 9: You know?
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  Speaker 2: So you know, little things like that. I I my
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  Speaker 2: sense of drawd is. I think he's getting a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more confident, and I was even before the win.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's he's figuring this whole thing out. But
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  Speaker 2: I get this. I agree with the little things like
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  Speaker 2: don't lead the witness, don't try to guess what the
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  Speaker 2: writers are thinking or what they want, or you know,
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  Speaker 2: make your statement, tell them what you want to tell them.
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  Speaker 2: And then and then take the question.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, he doesn't get a lot of publicity.
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  Speaker 4: I would strongly disagree with that. I think Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 4: and Ramondre Stevenson are really considered to be really solid
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  Speaker 4: runbacks in that league.
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  Speaker 2: But let's face it, you know, this offense didn't deserve
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  Speaker 2: a lot of publicity leading up to this year. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: nobody WRO.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying Stevenson has been no I like one
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  Speaker 4: of them, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: The lone folk point. Well, I think we said all
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  Speaker 2: off season that he's probably their best offensive player right now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that it's like nothing that happened Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: And he's gonna need to be.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing that will happened Sunday was out of the ordinary.
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  Speaker 4: No from Andre Stevenson. I don't know what his career
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  Speaker 4: high in yards is. I don't know if you know,
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty is the But like to me,
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  Speaker 4: it's irrelevant, Like he's had a lot of games that
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  Speaker 4: were good. Now, maybe he had more yards in this
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  Speaker 4: game than he's had before. And I think he's only
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  Speaker 4: had four or five hundred yard games in his career.
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  Speaker 4: But I've seen him have a lot of good games
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  Speaker 4: where he's averaging like five yards of carry, and maybe
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  Speaker 4: they split the carries a little bit more, so he
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  Speaker 4: ended up with eighty instead of one hundred and twent.
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  Speaker 2: I think the thing about him is he's a good
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  Speaker 2: he's a good player. Stay healthy and stay healthy, and
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  Speaker 2: with a little bit of help in the blocking game,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he could be one of the top backs.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the only thing holding him back. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it was his own skill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I think that sometimes, like I would
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  Speaker 4: argue hit the contract extension, Like I'm not necessarily a
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  Speaker 4: big fan of extending running.
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  Speaker 2: Backs right or running backs period.
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  Speaker 4: But that's why not because of Ramadre Stevenson. You just
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  Speaker 4: led me perfectly into my point, Like I have no
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  Speaker 4: problem with Ramondre Stevenson's ability as a running back. I
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  Speaker 4: don't necessarily think it's great to extend running backs period
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: unless it's like just the elite of the elite, right,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: And I think that ramondra Stevenson, say, very good running back.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's Christian McCaffrey, right, yep.
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: So that's all.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: But I think that that's kind of what Gerad was
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: talking about. I was like, you know, you got you know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: maybe he heard people say, like, man, I don't know
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: about why they extended him. That's like a slam on
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: the player. No, it's now the position.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, So how do you think the Patriots will
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: attack this Seattle defense? So they because they from what
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I understand, don't they have issues in their back end?
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: No, they have a good secondary, do they.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I thought they were having two.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Really good corners in Riquellen in Devon Witherspoon.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, so there's no I thought there was some weakness
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: that they had back there. I don't know.
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I think they were better last year against the past
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: than they were against the run, and then they were
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: really good. They only a loted like one hundred and
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: thirty yards in the opener. But again, they played a
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: rookie quarterback in his first game. That's a tough spot.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to say bo Nick stinks
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: because he went to Seattle in his first ever game
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: and was held in check. But I thought Seattle's defense
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: dictated that game a little bit. I'd be curious to
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: see they change now for years and years, you know,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: the Pete Carroll you know, back way back, you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: with like Dan Quinn even you know, when he was
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator and they were always known for that
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: three three deep look, and you know they played the safeties.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: It was kept everything in front of them. I'd be
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: curious to see with Mike McDonald, who comes from Baltimore
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: and you know before that, you know in Michigan. I'd
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: be curious to see if they do a little bit
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: more aggressive upfront. I know they got a lot of
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: pressure on Knicks if they go with the same kind
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: of approach and they try to get after him with
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: four or there. Because you know, Evan talked about it
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: yesterday a little bit. They disguise a lot and you
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: don't know who's coming. It's not necessarily blitzing, but they
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: do a good job of mixing and matching, kind of
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: like the Patriots have done.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they could be a sneaky good team.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: They get overshadowed in that NFC West, you know, by
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs, obviously.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: But they're like, to me, there's there's like somewhere between
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: like eight and nine, nine and eight in that general area.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Gino Smith's interesting because we all know of his you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: comeback if you will into the league. He's a guy
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that has a lot of confidence. You know, maybe his
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: ability doesn't match up to his confidence. So I think
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: he'll make mistakes whereas a guy like Jacoby Brissett won't.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: But he'll also make more plays than Jacoby Brissett will.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: So I would not underestimate Gino Smith in this game.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I think that that would be the way that
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: they're going to have to win the game if Seattle's
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: going to come here.
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: They need to be balanced.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: They can't just hand the ball to Kenneth Walker and
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: hope that the quarterback doesn't do anything. I think their edge,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: to me would be the combination of being able to
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: run in through Yeah, but I haven't seen Smith do
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: that really that when he came back, you know, that
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: was two years ago now. The first half of that season,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: he took the league by storm. He was playing really,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: really well. It kind of tapered off at the end,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: you know, and they got knocked out of the playoffs.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Last year I think was kind of yeah, yeah, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: he's kind of like what the Gino Smith that we remember.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: He's not without talent, but he's just okay, Yeah, I
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: kind of that's the way I think of him, and
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think they want him throwing the ball thirty
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: plus times. Yeah, I think it's hard to win that way.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: And again I say the same up about.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: The Patriots, and he will make mistakes. So you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: they might be able to bait him into a few things,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: but they're gonna have to wear like mistakes.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Don't bother me if you make place.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are gonna have to worry about his legs.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: He will run, Yeah, He's not really a huge run.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: He's a little light persett. Yeah, he will run. Now,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I know everybody saw the thirty four yard touchdown. They're like,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: whoa wow, Like, I don't think that's what he's going
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: to make his living doing. Yeah, it's a good run.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I give him that. That was That was an impressive touchdown.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: So I can't wait. I have no idea. I don't
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: think anyone.
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: Doesn't have a feel for this one yet.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Just saving if it takes a little bit of time,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I have to my field develops over the course of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the week, you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: Know, fair point.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna mock you not have to picking
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: that upset.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: All right, So du said, Evan will be here as
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: soon as locker room closes up, and then I think
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Evan's going to go out to practice for a little.
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I think Deuce will come in shortly and every probably
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: we will we will not see on Wednesday.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So eight five five, Pat's five hundred is the TPX hotline.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: so we might as well get right to you. Your
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: calls and emails. Will start off the calling with Sean
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and Vancouver on the TPX houtline.
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: What's up, Sean, Hey, Fred, I have a few things.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, Sean, muzzle tough already and I'm here.
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: Can you hear me?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, turn that up? Yeah, Hello, yeah, we can
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: hear I just want to turn up the volume. Okay,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: So ahead, Sean, yep.
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: First of all, muzzle Tough on calling that that score.
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: I think you and Pat and aguan On are the
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: only one who got that right. So that's pretty amazing.
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: And there's just a few things. One thing I wanted
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: to say is I'm really happy that Bentley taking over
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: the duties from Slater in terms of the post game cheer.
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: I mean, that's a good tradition with the linebackers leading
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: the team, going back to Bruski and then Mayo and
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: now Bentley having a strong captain role, which I appreciate.
• 21:16
  Speaker 11: La.
• 21:17
  Speaker 12: I don't know if you if you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: Saw the Tostitos ads with Brady and Edelman, which I
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: thought was fun. I don't know if you've got a
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: chance to see that one yet. And the other thing
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: I want to talk about is the game coming up.
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: I was watching the Seattle Broncos game after the Patriots game,
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: and I noticed something that's kind of interesting. Seattle really
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: didn't do anything offensively in the first half, but on
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: the second half they were able to take advantage of
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: the safety movement. So when the safeties were playing back,
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: they ran the ball and Kenth Walker had a great
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: game in the second half, and then when they came
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: in to the box, they were able to pass and
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: they saw that. So I think in this game, Pepper's
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: and Duggar have to like just have some movement pre
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: snap to try and him a little bit. Also, offensively,
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: I'd like to see the Patriots take a couple of
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: shots downfield on play actions. So that's all I got.
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: I'll take it off there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Thanksbo Okay, thanks for the call. Sean. Yeah, I mean
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: he mentioned linebackers with the h it was Slater the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: last few years, that's what he said.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: But he's not a linebacker, no, but he said he'd
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: liked to see him taking it over for Slater back
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: to the linebub.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Back to the linebackers.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I'm Sean's right, like, and I just that
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: was my because I didn't see much of the first half.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I just saw like little highlights here and there as
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: we were watching while we were doing postgame. I did
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: see most of the second half that they showed, and
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't really I wasn't overly impressed offensively with anything Seattle.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Did you know. They racked up some points eventually, but
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: to me, it was more product of the other team
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: just not being able to do anything offensively, putting him
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: in good situations and they were able to take advantage.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a good win for Seattle, Like
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I think that's a game that you need to win
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: at home against Denver with a rookie quarterback in the opener.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: But you know that does mean I don't give him
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: any credit for it. I thought it was a good,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: solid win for them.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Gonzo's role in this game, do you think you'll see
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: him a lot one on one with Metcalf.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Or that's how I would you know, this is another one.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: You know, the after show yesterday, Evan and I as
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: we were walking back, I was like, I mean, it
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: kind of would make sense to have Gonzales with Metcalf
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: and Jonathan Jones with Lockett and then deal with Jackson
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba, you know with the rest quote unquote.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously it starts with Marcus Jones, but the
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: safeties are involved, and you might have more corners involved
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: in this game because they do have three receivers, whereas
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati only had a half of one. Yeah, you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I think they had a little bit of chase and
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: that was it. So you are going to probably have
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: to do things a little bit differently in the second
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: and I'll be curious to see if they stick with
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the sort of Jalen Hawkins back and because
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: it was kind of GTFB, you know, they made sure
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: everything stayed in front of them, and then they would
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: really sound because they were swarming to the ball and tackling.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: They were their first step was.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just on the surface, I think it
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: makes sense Gonzales' size matches up with Metcalf. They don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: throw the ball to Metcalf a whole lot. I think
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: you only had like sixty five catches last year. He's
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: not a volume guy, so you know this, this could
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: be one of those games. If you can sort of
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: mitigate Lockett, then I think you'd be all right with
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the passing game, okay, and make sure that Metcalf doesn't
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: hit you for big plays.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Sean mentioned the score and predictions. I just I can't believe.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: We did that Madden sim before last game and it
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: predicted the score seventeen to ten, Patriots winning.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: So it was wrong.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: I mean, we talked about this yesterday.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're gonna they did another one. And I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: told him I don't want to know what the score is.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I want to be surprised, so I don't know how
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: it came out.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I turned into a child. I think I don't want
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: to know. I think it don't tell me.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's fun.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: It is fun.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: That's why I don't understand why you don't want to know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So this could be a thing. I hope that this
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Madden thing is close every week.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: So you don't want it. You don't want to know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: because if it's.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Right the other way, and I don't want it to
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: cloud my judgment or spoil my day.
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: What am I doing?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: Even Matt's rolling his eyes.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That's a big Madden guy.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you all fair what the score was, Paul.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: He knows enough to know that someone will have to
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: tell me.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right. I hope that they're not, like, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: putting their thumb on the scale either. I hope they
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: just let it play out.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: I can honestly say they are not. They pop that
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: thing on all Madden and sit back and let the
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: computer do.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: It good, good, good, because I want it to be
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a true so true sim.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: All right, if we're going to really talk about this,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: like it has some relevance, So I don't, I don't.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I don't play Madden. I don't pretend to know Madden.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: So you put it in a sim? Did it play
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: the personnel that was available?
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: So they they played this week's game with the roster
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: that played in the Bengals game?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: No?
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: Like, so like, that's what I'm saying.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: So they played Cincinnati with all the guys that they
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: didn't have.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: I have to I'm talking about the Seahawks game that
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: they just simmed yesterday for next week, they used the
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: lineup of that played everybody that was actually.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati was a Cincinnati game taken to account, like.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: T Higgins in or out?
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know about that.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, Chase in or out
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: or like Walker? Right, is even this game Kenneth Walker
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: in or out?
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I think Kenneth Walker is going to be in. Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know that for sure.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: I'd be curious.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Today's a day that obviously we get some injury updates
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: and whatnot. But yeah, I to me, I find it
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: strange that the sim would have had the Patriots beating
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: a full strength Cincinnati because, like I would think, a
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: sim doesn't take into account any of the intangibles unless
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: I don't, Like I said, I don't.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: Know, Madden like an effort to find the answer.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati is not going to like as as an example,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: ESPN does that Football Power Index thing, yep, right, Well,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: the Bengals had like a sixty something percent chance to win.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: I think it was sixty eight percent chance. It was
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: a very high percent. They were the biggest spread of
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: the week. That's not taken into account any intangibles. It's
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: it's just going strictly off of personnel right, and Madals
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: had had the Bengals having an overwhelming chance to win.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: So I'm just curious if the sim for Madden is
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: the same or if they are able they have the
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: ability to take those guys out that weren't expected to play.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Because I imagine it takes in to count all their
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Madden ratings and all that stuff.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Pat Naguam writes in he says,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know how important you rank getting pressure
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: on Gino Smith this Sunday and not letting him get
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: into rhythm. Even if the secondary plays great. This is
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: a great group with Metcalf, Lockett and Smith Smith the jigbu.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to make plays regardless of how
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: good the coverage is. So pressuring Gino is paramount to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: me and should be one of the keys to the game.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. And their offensive lines and shambles already.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Seattle's they're down three tackles, and I think that's an
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: area that they can exploit a little bit. But I
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: would put that behind stopping the run because that's what
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Seattle wants to do and If Seattle's able to get
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker going and they can throw when they want
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: to instead of when they have to, then obviously that
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: makes the job easier protecting him. But Pat's right, Cousin, Patty,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: I think you need to get some heat because you
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: can't just cover. You can't just cover against quality receivers.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yep, Trevor in Revere, right, Sin, do you know how
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks run defense compared to the Bengals. I'm trying
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: to gauge if the same offensive performance by the Patriots
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: against the Seahawks would produce similar results. Obviously we'd hope
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: for a bit more in the passing game, but I
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: imagine the coaching staff would love to play conservative and
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: focus on the run if the game allows it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Last year, like I said, Seattle was bad against
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: the run. In the first game, they were pretty good. Yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if this is a sign of
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: improvement or if they got a good opponent or what,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: but I would say they're gonna need a lot more
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: than what they got. Yeah, you know, like a repeat
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: of what they did against Cincinnati isn't gonna be good
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: enough to win most games.
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: That's and I know that I'm in the minority.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I guess, you know, well, a lot of a lot
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: of our colleagues, a lot of our colleagues are like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: you know that they can if they play that same game,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: you know, all year, they're gonna be in the playoff hunt.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I think if they play that same game all year,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be hard pressed to win final games.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: But if they give up ten points every week, But
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: that's not I know, but I know.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: The same I'm talking about if if you play the
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: same way, like you can play really good defense and
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: still give up twenty four points. Yeah, yeah, like the
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: guy doesn't fumble going into the end zone and the
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: game is totally different. It's true, right, this is what
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. And that's not like I know, and the
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: other team. You can't expect the other team to play
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: that badly, right, Like I know that the Patriots had
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: a lot to do with Cincinnati's offense not looking good
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: because the Patriots defense was outstanding.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was some turmoil.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: But there are good offenses that are gonna overcome your
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: good defense at times. Cincinnati really didn't do that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Trevor also says, a handsome one I'd like Matt little
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: postgame suggestion. I'd like Matt on the postgame show so far,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: but someone has to tell him that the Good, the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Bad and the Injured isn't a race against the clock.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: So I've had to talk with the Matt a little
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: bit twice. Now we do not, Yeah, the ever repeat
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: after the preseason game. And then I said it again
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: during the show, The Good and the Bad and the
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Injured is only interrupted by the player interview, right, Mike.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: When after a win, when we get a call and
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: unfortunately we had some cell issues this week with Kyle Dugger.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: But after a win, we get a call from a player,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: and sometimes that comes in the middle of Good, Bad
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: and the Injured. We stop, obviously whatever we're doing when
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: the player is on the line and we talk to him.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Otherwise we do not take calls and we do not
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: do emails during Good and the Bad and the Injured. Yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: we never got to the We never really got to anything.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Let me ask a question on the player thing. For
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: home games, are you guys on soon enough? Where if
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the guy just walked off the field in his pads,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: he could be a guest in the studio.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: We're on immediately after the game. Should we try to
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: do that, we would be in here before the players
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: are off the field. I would think. I don't know.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know they know my answer. They go
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: off the far end and we're over here.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's true, but I don't know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: That would be cool, right, just come right off the field,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: sit here in your pads, you know.
• 32:17
  Speaker 13: I like it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be a good visual.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, put on Deuce is here, I'm here and he
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: just came from here.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: That would mean I could take the segment off. I mean,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: that's a time from the locker room in he goes
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: into the locker room and sad because it's all his jingle.
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: This is I get.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Back all right?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Was that an AI matter or that that's AI Okay?
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 14: It was a bustling day down there in the locker room.
• 32:51
  Speaker 14: It seems almost different than last week, though. It seems
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: like there's just so much more going on. I feel
• 32:56
  Speaker 14: like a little bit of throwback my first year twenty nineteen,
• 32:58
  Speaker 14: when it was different scrums going on at the same time,
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: people doing one on ones. It was, you know, the
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: last couple of years, it's always been one person's talking
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: everyone from right to that person, no real side conversations
• 33:11
  Speaker 14: going on, and now.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: It's just is a.
• 33:14
  Speaker 14: Bunch of activity going on everywhere because there's just some
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: more guys in the locker room, I think, so, I
• 33:18
  Speaker 14: mean everybody getting ready for practice, but I mean Laydon Robinson,
• 33:21
  Speaker 14: he's like he's like the mayor over there.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, everybody wants to talk to Laydon Robinson.
• 33:25
  Speaker 14: I know, I don't know if that's a great thing
• 33:26
  Speaker 14: as a rookie, where just person after person after person
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: coming up to him before the locker room. But but yeah, no,
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: pretty good, pretty good mood, pretty good mood. It's say,
• 33:34
  Speaker 14: it felt like a Wednesday, ready to you know, put
• 33:37
  Speaker 14: the Bengals win behind them and move on to the Seahawks.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: What did you talk to?
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: I talked to Joe. I talked to Brendan Schooler a
• 33:44
  Speaker 14: little bit. I was asking him about as if he
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: got any you know, award for breaking twenty two miles
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: an hour since everyone was talking about that. But no,
• 33:51
  Speaker 14: just to her from Pop Douglas, Christian Gonzalez another one.
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: He talks so, like I said, there's just so much
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: going on here you kind of have to pick your spots.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: So but yeah, everybody.
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: Everybody seems pretty focused on on the Seahawks here as
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: we get into Wednesday.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So, and were you able to catch Droid Mayo as
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: well as Paul.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 34:09
  Speaker 14: I caught him with with Paul was right next to him,
• 34:11
  Speaker 14: right next to Uh fine, I mean, I mean, I
• 34:16
  Speaker 14: don't know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: There wasn't a lot.
• 34:17
  Speaker 14: I don't I mean, you know, not a lot. Not
• 34:19
  Speaker 14: a lot to take away, I mean a lot. Glad
• 34:21
  Speaker 14: to see that we turned the page. It didn't feel
• 34:24
  Speaker 14: like we were still, you know, flexing about about the win.
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: And I'd expect that with him, but no, you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 14: nice message about nine to eleven and all that stuff.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting you brought up quick side store.
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: I think I've told it, like you mentioned, A couple
• 34:36
  Speaker 14: of flights came out of Boston, and when I moved
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: to California in August of nineteen ninety nine, I took
• 34:43
  Speaker 14: flight one seventy five, and so I still have the
• 34:46
  Speaker 14: ticket stub from taking that exact flight that you know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: ended up flying into one of the World Trade centers.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
• 34:52
  Speaker 14: I always kept that as like a you know, a
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: little memento and reminder of you know, just that terrible.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: But the one comment, and I agree with Mike that I
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and you know, we are we talked about the press
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: conferences and stuff. I didn't think there was a ton,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: you know, I didn't think there was a ton there.
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: I don't.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I don't think my shows will be spending segments talking
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: about Gerrod today like they have at times in the summer.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: My one thing that I mentioned to Fred Mike, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: I'll be curious to see if you feel the same way. Like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: and he's talking about like reminder Stevenson, It's like, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: you guys don't know, you know, he's always telling us
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: what we think of guys. You know, like you guys
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: don't you know he might not get the pub that
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: that other guys get. And then Kenneth Walker comes up
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, I don't know what his
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: matting radny is, but like why are you, like, you know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: always telling us what we.
• 35:40
  Speaker 14: Think, feeding the outside perspective on the player a little bit, right, Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 14: And I think the outside perspective, certainly on Stevenson in
• 35:47
  Speaker 14: this area is he's.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: A really good back. He's just got to stay he's
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: got to stay healthy. That's it, you know, like two
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: years ago he had like eleven hundred yards and sixty
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: seven catches. Yeah, you know, like why like no one
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: in New England thinks that he's a stiff?
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: No, I add on too, where was Girod started to
• 36:04
  Speaker 14: walk down like one of his goals is you know
• 36:06
  Speaker 14: what I'm not I'm not going to tell you. So
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: I think that showed a little bit of progress from Girraw,
• 36:11
  Speaker 14: but still he has I think he still has an
• 36:13
  Speaker 14: inclination to share things that you don't have to share,
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: you don't even have feeling.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: And if someone said, Girod, what were some of the
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: goals that ro Roder Stevenson had right after that, that
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: he probably would.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: Have just said it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: Well, I was right.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Well I thought they were gonna go right into Remondra
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: in the locker room and be like, what are your
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: goals you know in life in the football season generally.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: So that that would be called being a reporter.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: I'd see.
• 36:34
  Speaker 14: I didn't go to J school, but I don't know
• 36:36
  Speaker 14: good of him questions and talking to people, but uh yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 14: it was it was you know, I thought Persette was
• 36:42
  Speaker 14: was you know fine too. You know, I just I
• 36:44
  Speaker 14: like that they're talking about throwing the ball more. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 14: think that that you.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Know, it's just I think they know that that's it
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: was kind of a rarity.
• 36:51
  Speaker 14: I've seen my word pop up a lot this week,
• 36:53
  Speaker 14: my sustainability pop up. Saw Tommy Kerrn, you know, doing
• 36:58
  Speaker 14: a little of that. I wrote in the mailbag that was,
• 37:00
  Speaker 14: you know, one of my title. I mean, I think
• 37:01
  Speaker 14: that's it's obvious what this team needs to do.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: It was a nice win.
• 37:04
  Speaker 14: You threaded the needle, you didn't turn the ball over.
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: You you know, you're able to run the ball and
• 37:08
  Speaker 14: run out the clock. That's awesome. We all know that
• 37:11
  Speaker 14: that's a really hard way to live and that they're
• 37:13
  Speaker 14: going to have to start producing explosive plays to offset
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: the mistakes that are just going to happen. That's that's
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: the NFL. You know, that's they're going to be turnovers.
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: There's going to be a dumb penalty here there. I mean,
• 37:23
  Speaker 14: as long as they're not a litany of them that
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: you can't overcome, but they have to develop that explosive
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: element to their offense for sure.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Let's see, we'll go to the TPX hotline eight five
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to five pats five hundred Eldred's is on the line
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: and he says he's a Madden guy. What's up? Aldred, Aldred, Aldred, Yes, yes, yes, okay,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: p yes, sir.
• 37:51
  Speaker 15: They update the roster and if your guys got injury,
• 37:55
  Speaker 15: they don't, like you can't put him in the line up,
• 37:57
  Speaker 15: even do a simulation.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: No, I just was wondering what we did when we
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: did the simulation. I would like the Patriots. You know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Fred was telling us the Patriots had a seventeen to
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: ten win in the sem Like, was that including t
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Higgins or do we take him out? Is that including Chase?
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: According to Matisse, Bengals were at full strength. Chase played,
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: but we mentioned he had contract disputes. Higgins did not
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: catch up a Higgins did not catch a pass.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think later in the week.
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: It is hard.
• 38:28
  Speaker 15: Hey, My question is, like them happy for the win
• 38:33
  Speaker 15: and everything, but do you think they don't I know
• 38:36
  Speaker 15: they can't do too much now, but those tackles they got,
• 38:39
  Speaker 15: do you think they're trying to work them in, especially.
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: The big guys.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: One off waivers.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would doubt it.
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: But we'll see, you know, we'll see.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: You know, these guys are going to be here for
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: at least two more weeks and we'll see if they
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: progress enough to earn playing time. But I find that
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: to be a short odds on you.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: We're talking about the defensive guy they signed up.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The tackle's huge, Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I don't. I
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna see him. If you do, it's
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: because everything else isn't working, so let's or or he
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: just shows enough in practice. But I don't. I don't
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: see that happening.
• 39:23
  Speaker 14: No, I mean, I think it's more about you see
• 39:27
  Speaker 14: what positions they're concerned about. I mean, they brought in
• 39:29
  Speaker 14: a bunch of outside offensive linemen. They just signed this kid.
• 39:33
  Speaker 14: I'm not sure if it's I don't think it's Jacqueline,
• 39:35
  Speaker 14: is it Jake Quellen?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: J Quin?
• 39:36
  Speaker 14: Yeah, Jay Quellen, which reminds me, of course of Jack
• 39:40
  Speaker 14: the Key and Peel Sketch, Jake Qulin, Jake Coulin Roy.
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: But you know, they they signed some defensive lineman, they
• 39:49
  Speaker 14: signed some offensive lineman. I think that those are positions
• 39:52
  Speaker 14: we talked about throughout camp, that there's some uncertainty there,
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: there's maybe a lack of proven depth, and I think
• 39:57
  Speaker 14: it's just good due diligence to continue to focus on
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: those players as they you know, moving to this how
• 40:04
  Speaker 14: to find somebody. They brought in the guard. They let
• 40:06
  Speaker 14: the guard go to sign the defensive tackle. And you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 14: if you do this all season long, maybe maybe you
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: find a gem you find.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: We've seen it happen. It's not very common, but you've
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: seen it a good.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Way to find depth at the very least. Yep, I
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: agree with you, Mike.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Will writes in he said the Patriots win on Sunday
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: was one of the more enjoyable and positive moments of
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the last few years. I was so happy. I know
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: we gave Mayo a hard time for all the corporate speak,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: which reminded me more of my nonprofit work than football.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: But it's nice to have a coach that I feel
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I can relate more to. Maybe that is corny, I
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: don't know, so.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: He's still doing a little of that.
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: By the way, what do you throw out the imposter syndrome.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: To the half?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still got a little of that going.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Also shout out to Evan for a fr I really
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: enjoy reading it on Mondays.
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I do wonder, you know, because if this was last
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: year's team and they won that way with Belichick. People
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: would have called it a fake win, Like my shows
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: would have said, that's a fake win. But I wonder
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: how much of it with the newness of Mayo and
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: he is really I love the way he's like he's
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: maybe he's more relatable, that's changing.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I think Belichick would have got
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: credit because, oh, he did it with Jacoby Brissett and
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: this is how he had to do it. And I'm
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: just telling you that a.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Lot of people would have made fun of it, like
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: that's what he didn't just just adjust pay No, I know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: but you had to. You would have made fun of
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: him and used Mike's sustainability question.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if Belichick was had to win a
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: game with Jacoby Brissett, that's what you would expect from Belichick.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, I said, last year's team wins
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: that same game, okay, and everybody would have said that's
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: not sustainable. This is how he wants to win every
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: game seventeen thirty. I would have said it, right. Yeah,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not calling anybody else.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Out with Mac Jones as the quarterback.
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: I don't care who the quarterback.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Once to play. No, he played exactly that game. He
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: played exactly the way he tried to play the last
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: three years with Mac Jones.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Here, I am defending Bill Belichick again. No, I think
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: that you know.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: No, No, Fred, you're.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Young, and I think Bill Belichick is known for adjusting
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: depending on the situation and adapting to not just the opponent.
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: But what's going on with that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't known for that the three years that
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Mac Jones was his quarterback.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I know, but maybe that And if Bill was here,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: he probably and being honest, he'd probably tell you that's
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: that's all we could do.
• 42:43
  Speaker 14: I just think it's it's Bill Belichick had an established championship,
• 42:46
  Speaker 14: you know, pedigree, and you're held to that standard. The
• 42:49
  Speaker 14: standard that Mayo was being held to was that these
• 42:51
  Speaker 14: guys might not win a game this year. This might
• 42:53
  Speaker 14: be the worst team in the league. And that's why
• 42:55
  Speaker 14: you get credit for it. When you show that you
• 42:57
  Speaker 14: can even just put everybody's pulling in the same direction
• 43:00
  Speaker 14: and you're not killing yourself. It looks like a well
• 43:01
  Speaker 14: coached team goes to Mayo, who hasn't done anything. It's
• 43:04
  Speaker 14: it's a feather in his cap. If it's Belichick, It's like, well,
• 43:07
  Speaker 14: where's the four hundred and five hundred yards our offense?
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Bill, Like, we can't do it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I totally agree. That's exactly how I felt like this,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: that it would have been perceived so differently. And I'm
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it would have
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: been perceived differently.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: And it's just the bottom line is, whether it was
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Bill's team or Gerrod's team, they have.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: To if anybody really say how bad Cincinnati was Sunday
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: That's all you If it was if Bill was here,
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: that's all you.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Would have heard was they didn't even want to be there.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Higgins didn't play, Chase was a shell of himself. The
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: defense couldn't stop the same play. Oh do we hear
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: that maybe sometime maybe in Buffalo in the win game?
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: How bad is Sean McDermot He couldn't stop the same play, Like, yeah,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: that's what people would have said. Yeah, but I think
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. It should be looked at differently because
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: we're not holding Mayo to the Belichick standard of you
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: you don't know what it wins away from the all
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: time winning his coach.
• 43:59
  Speaker 14: I mean, if it had like Carolina's game did right,
• 44:02
  Speaker 14: like you know, like we killing him right, and that's
• 44:05
  Speaker 14: you don't know what to expect. But I will say
• 44:07
  Speaker 14: one thing I have seen that I didn't really catch
• 44:08
  Speaker 14: during the game was like a super cut of all
• 44:10
  Speaker 14: the Joe Burrow O Wrisk stuff the whole game, like
• 44:14
  Speaker 14: on the bench. I didn't even really, I didn't really
• 44:15
  Speaker 14: I didn't clock it during the game. But I mean
• 44:17
  Speaker 14: he's he's clearly still working through stuff. And I mean again,
• 44:20
  Speaker 14: it's funny because we spent the whole week talking like, well,
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: he's finally healthy, it still starts like, I mean, he's
• 44:25
  Speaker 14: banged up again.
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: Fred had a good one.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well Andrew.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I just wonder for other reasons, if he'll be what
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Andrew Luck was for the Colts, he'll be for the Bengals.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: You know, this elite talent that just gets wasted.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean I hope not.
• 44:41
  Speaker 14: I I mean Andrew Luck got beat up, right, I mean,
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: he just did injuries and.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: And he had the risk surgery and he clearly didn't
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: trust his ability to throw the ball outside the numbers.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Everyn't talked about it a lot yesterday, And I think
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the proof is in the pudding. He didn't really try
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: to throw the ball downfield or outside very often.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: No Micah from South Dakota. After looking at how the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: other rookie quarterbacks did on Sunday and how our offensive
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: line pass blocked, I'm glad Drake may is starting the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: season on the bench. The so called ready rookie quarterbacks
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: played pretty bad. Caleb Williams looked like twenty twenty Cam Newton,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: throwing for less than one hundred yards. I also think
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: that Jacoby moving forward will be better than he was
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: on Sunday in terms of throwing the ball down the field.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Now on to Seattle, two to zero, here we come.
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: I think the energy is gonna be pretty good this weekend.
• 45:34
  Speaker 14: I mean, I just that that's one bonus of winning
• 45:36
  Speaker 14: the first game on the road, and then you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 14: coming in here. I mean it's been a tough go.
• 45:40
  Speaker 14: I mean, the last time this team played on this field,
• 45:42
  Speaker 14: they lost to the Jets. I mean, you know, for
• 45:43
  Speaker 14: the first time I went like eighteen games. So I'm
• 45:46
  Speaker 14: excited for the atmosphere. I just I think Patriot fans
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: are gonna come supposed to be a beautiful day. You know,
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: it's a team you don't really get to see a lot, so.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I wonder and I don't know this, so I'm not
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: like playing coy. If there will be any difference in
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: how the opening introductions are done with you know, with
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: the new regime, if.
• 46:04
  Speaker 14: I'm sure there will be, I just don't know if
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: it'll be the same as preseason or if they'll.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I'm sure whatever that if they are going to do changes,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: they would not unveil it in preseason.
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, well we won't hear because we're in the
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: silent press spots.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: I have no idea what's going on. I don't even
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: know there's a giant screen up there.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: It's just like they could do something like entirely different
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: and you could tell me that's exactly what they've done
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: every game, and I would have no idea.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: I don't know how they come out.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: It's like even the flyover you just like, I know
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: they used to play crazy Train, and I guess we're
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: not doing that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Anymore, right, Oh, I didn't know, there you go. I
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: didn't know that.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Well, I thought that's what they said in the preseason
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: games they weren't playing crazy Train.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: Well, they had like what is that?
• 46:38
  Speaker 13: Is it?
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: Carmina Burana.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've always played that, you know, that one that
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: starts it out it goes into crazy. Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, I was told that they weren't playing that in
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: the preseason, all right, so probably, but Mike and I
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: are in here. Yeah, so I didn't hear it. I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, in the Bob's Discount for an Instant Studio.
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: They did like the Lil John mix of it. I
• 46:58
  Speaker 14: think in the preseason is like a let's go version
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: of that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: So I don't know if it' if that'll stick or.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: If you know, I couldn't tell you what they normally do,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: so I'm not going to be able to tell you
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: what they're doing now.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I hope they stick to being introduced as a team now,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: be serious. I don't want to go to the individual intros.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I want to stay the teams still do that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know that's why.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, every guy came out, you know, Chase was
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: second to last, Burrow was last, you know.
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: To the alternate defense offense every week every like.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they do, but I just think
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: they did the offense. You know, I think what you
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: do whoever is your best player, that's the side of
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the ball that you introduce because you want to get
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: you want to get the fans, you know, riled up,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: you know, you want to get them.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Which tie would you introduce for the Patriots right now?
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: Defense?
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I do defense. But like, who's your
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: last player to come out? Who's the guy pep Pepper?
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul.
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: I just think he's like their emotional guy.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: He's like their emotional But in terms of like star power,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: it kind of underscores what's lacking.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: That's where we got to stay as a team.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: You don't have that superstar that you wait just off
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: the top of my head, and you guys have obviously
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: given this stuff a lot more thought than I ever have.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: This is I'll tell you, I didn't even know that
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: we didn't do the same thing that everybody else does anymore.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Like I knew that was a thing in two thousand
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: and one, I didn't realize that we still did that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: And Everett, they don't have introductions when you were.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: You run out high school, you run out.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: It's like the loop that the cheerleaders make the knocks your.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Every once in a while, you get the little kids
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: like in Pop Wanted, they go out and they can't
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: break through the paper good time. So I love it.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Josh is in Dallas on the TPX hotline, What's up, Josh.
• 48:46
  Speaker 17: Hey, guys, great to have football back and three shows
• 48:50
  Speaker 17: a week. Love it just as a fan. It was
• 48:52
  Speaker 17: a great game to watch on Sundays. First game, as
• 48:55
  Speaker 17: you guys just said in a couple of years that
• 48:57
  Speaker 17: I felt like I couldn't get up for my couch.
• 48:58
  Speaker 17: I just wanted to watch. And I was looking at
• 49:01
  Speaker 17: this week's plate of games, and I think we all
• 49:04
  Speaker 17: agree that the Patriots like thoroughly outplayed the Bengals. The
• 49:08
  Speaker 17: Bengals did not look ready to play. So when I
• 49:11
  Speaker 17: say this, please do not come at me, because I
• 49:13
  Speaker 17: don't think it's necessarily true, but could be a factor.
• 49:16
  Speaker 17: I didn't realize that the Bengals are playing the Chiefs
• 49:18
  Speaker 17: this week, and I just I hadn't heard anybody talk
• 49:21
  Speaker 17: about if there was maybe any consideration to thinking that
• 49:25
  Speaker 17: they could come in with a maybe more vanilla game
• 49:27
  Speaker 17: plan against the Patriots, just having on paper more talent
• 49:31
  Speaker 17: and then just kind of circling that Chiefs game week two,
• 49:35
  Speaker 17: since it's always competitive and they kind of need to
• 49:37
  Speaker 17: pull out all the stops. So again, I think the defense.
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: Played really well.
• 49:41
  Speaker 17: I love the way that Covington's fun the dial of
• 49:44
  Speaker 17: you guys had said, But I just wondered, from maybe
• 49:48
  Speaker 17: the All twenty two and those kind of things, if
• 49:50
  Speaker 17: there were some concepts that they shied away from saving
• 49:53
  Speaker 17: for next week and didn't expect the paths to come
• 49:55
  Speaker 17: out and en off like they did.
• 49:57
  Speaker 13: Thanks guys.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I mean that could be a little looking ahead. You know,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: if it was the forty nine ers, there'd be more
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: vanilla because you know, you know, they're in their division,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: but not showing the chief stuff. I don't know, what,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: what did you just say? I'm thinking about the Seahawks.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think it had anything to do with game
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: plan now, but you can make any make an argument
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: they got a big game next week and they're caught sleeping.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: But that doesn't even hold water to me.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It's the opener exactly. It's your opening game. And with
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the offense, the Seahawks and the forty nine Ers, they.
• 50:29
  Speaker 14: Were in survival mode with the offense, you know, without
• 50:31
  Speaker 14: Higgins in limited chase. I mean, they were just trying
• 50:33
  Speaker 14: to piece it together. I don't think they were that's
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: in a position to hide.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: The only like excuse I'll allow for Cincinnati, if you
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: want to call it, is that the person the personnel
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: wasn't really available, right, you know that they that they're
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: built on off that was hurt. Yeah, I mean that
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean he played, but he played like crap. Like
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: and I like Joe Barrow. I think he's really really good.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Certainly he's one of my top five in the league.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: But he I mean, you have to call it the
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: way it is, like the Patriots made him look bad
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: and he played like crap.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he certainly didn't overcome the fact that he
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: didn't have But I like.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Win that game, right, and Brady, I've seen Josh Allen
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: win that game right, right, Like he couldn't do it
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: and he really didn't come close. Let's call it, like
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: I think Josh is right. Patriots controlled the game that
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: last three and out that they had.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: That was John.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: I was like it here it comes, like, here comes
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: the drive.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have to make that like everything, not that
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: they would score, but that they would move fifty or
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: sixty yards and get in position to score. Teams always
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: do right, Like, yeah, I never just automatically. Teams always
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: make a run.
• 51:40
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 51:40
  Speaker 14: That's what was in my head, was like, we're having
• 51:42
  Speaker 14: to stop in the end zone. That's like how they're
• 51:44
  Speaker 14: going to have to win this game. It's gonna come
• 51:45
  Speaker 14: down to the last play. And then all of a sudden,
• 51:47
  Speaker 14: they're punting and then the three players just look so
• 51:49
  Speaker 14: disjoined and non can you know, It's just it almost
• 51:52
  Speaker 14: snowballed on the Bengals because I feel like the Patriots,
• 51:55
  Speaker 14: everyone's like they controlled the line of scrimmage. I felt
• 51:57
  Speaker 14: like they really controlled it the first quarter, you know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 14: those first three and out and then after that, like
• 52:01
  Speaker 14: you know, it kind of settled in. It was a
• 52:02
  Speaker 14: little more back and forth. A couple of key moments,
• 52:04
  Speaker 14: you know, the fourth down stop that you know swung
• 52:07
  Speaker 14: the result. But you know, I was I was surprised.
• 52:10
  Speaker 14: Credits to the Patriots defense. They had him in a
• 52:12
  Speaker 14: blunder by the end.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I guess to Cody in West Virginia yesterday, I saw
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the CBS sideline reporter mentioned Drake May getting thirty percent
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of the first team reps this week with Persett still starting,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Will that affect how he plays on game day?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: I would I hadn't seen that. I didn't hear that.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: How do we know he didn't get thirty percent last
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: week too?
• 52:33
  Speaker 13: You know?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, what, what isn't that normal for like the
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback?
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: That's I think that's what the report was. During the game.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I would say I didn't know, like, but I didn't.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't see that. I have no idea what normal
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: would be for the backup course, Yeah, I mean to me, Hi, yeah,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: first team reps? Yeah, for the backup quarterback and the
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: other guy. I tell you right now, Drew Blitzoe got zero.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: The other guy's getting seventy percent, you know.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when when it was Brady and Bledsoe Bledsoe zero
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: percent of the first team reps? Well, because no, when
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: he came back and Bill made the comment about we're
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: going with Brady for the foreseeable future, that's what that was.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: And how are you expecting to get the How are
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: you expecting to get your job back if you can't
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: get any reps? Yeah, I mean, if it's true, what were
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: you supposed to answer? Sorry, how do you expect to
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: get your job back?
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: If your next question?
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: I don't A famous exchange between Paul Perol and Drew bletsnow,
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: and so.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: You asked that question, I don't know what the told you.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't always just I didn't always just sit around
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: and let all this, let these other nubes do all
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: the work.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the normal backup reps with first
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: teams are. I don't either, but I'm hoping that whatever
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: it is, may does get a little.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Bit more than I think I was just I think
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: that's greed not to just have him handling the scout team.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: I think it's important that he's running the Patriots offense.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.
• 53:56
  Speaker 14: I don't want to spoil it, but so maybe we should,
• 53:59
  Speaker 14: maybe we should run up by before we actually it.
• 54:01
  Speaker 14: But but Evan did talk to Drake made today and
• 54:04
  Speaker 14: asked him about his week and what he did, and
• 54:05
  Speaker 14: got some really interesting stuff about just nothing specific like
• 54:09
  Speaker 14: rep breakdowns, but specifically what Drake did last week as
• 54:12
  Speaker 14: we went into the regular season. So Evan was pretty
• 54:15
  Speaker 14: excited about it. We might have to make sure it's
• 54:16
  Speaker 14: a COPA set it before we put it out, but
• 54:18
  Speaker 14: it was sounded like he got some good stuff from Drake.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, David writes in He's from Madrid. I was shocked
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: he said in a good way about the few amount
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: of penalties the team had in week one, mainly after
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: that last preseason game. Do we think that's an anomaly
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: or are they actually disciplined? I mean, we'll see. It's
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: week one.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: My guess is it was like right now, If I
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: have to guess between one of those two things, I
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: would say it's an anomaly based on every other day
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: that I've seen them play so far, counting practice.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, is it I don't know.
• 54:54
  Speaker 14: I just that's always a question that I have universally,
• 54:57
  Speaker 14: is what you how much of training camp is a lot?
• 55:00
  Speaker 14: How much what you're seeing is true or not true?
• 55:02
  Speaker 15: You know?
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: And I have to say, like.
• 55:04
  Speaker 14: Mostly looking back, especially the last couple of years, having
• 55:07
  Speaker 14: keeping notes on the practices, there's a lot of truth.
• 55:11
  Speaker 14: There's a lot of truth in training camp camp I
• 55:13
  Speaker 14: think is pretty true. The preseason games can be lost.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I don't I don't really put a
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: whole lot of stock at all. I put no stock
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: really in preseason performance. I mean, look at look at
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: the young quarterbacks. Young quarterbacks, I mean the people gushing
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: gushing over bow knicks. He looked like he's never been
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: on the field before. That's not a slam on bow Knicks.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: That's what these rookie quarterbacks should look like when they
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: play against good competition. You know what was mac Jones's Uh?
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: That was that the Jets Jones Jets Mac Jones's first
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: attempt in the NFL. He threw backwards, and so much
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: of what bon Nicks did look to as on the back,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: like the back foot, like I think it's there. It's
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: it's not NFL open even close, you know, chucking it
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: off his back foot and guys are picking up off easily.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Uh. Todd and Garner writes in I'm curious to as
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: to how much passing you each field needs to be
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: added to the offensive game plan and the something in
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: the type. Do we need to stretch the field to
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: throw sidelines, to empty the box to help the run game?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Should we be using screens and quick hitters to lessen
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: the pass rush? Getting to Jacoby Love the show, looking
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: forward to a great game this weekend.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: Blah blah blah, all of that. I mean, they need
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: it all.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Like the quick hitters. There was a there was a
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: good zone, there was a good blitz beeeder early in
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: the game. I think to Hooper, yep, I want to
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: say just really good stuff. That's why Brissette's in there.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Some of those plays like well, that's.
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: Like this is becoming the pattern though, is that every
• 56:44
  Speaker 14: time they like there's an all out blitz and Jacoby
• 56:45
  Speaker 14: is able to just dump it off to his hot read.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: That's what we got them.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: But that's like I am not willing to just blindly say, like, well,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: Brissette wins the game and May wouldn't have. Like I
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: think if May was forced to run around and improvise
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: make plays, they might have been more explosive. I'm not
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: just blindly saying they wouldn't have scored sixteen points if
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: May played. Is now, who's saying that a lot of
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: people have used that That's why they made the right
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: decision in starting We're set. That's been I mean it
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: was constant during the game on Twitter, like Patriots Twitter
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: during the game had a lot of that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 14: I think the encouraging thing for me, though, is that
• 57:25
  Speaker 14: you've seen a lot of a lot of places, not
• 57:27
  Speaker 14: just Evan and Taylor and those guys, but but plays
• 57:31
  Speaker 14: are open, you know, the guys are open. There are
• 57:33
  Speaker 14: things like it's functional offense, it's not like nobody's open,
• 57:36
  Speaker 14: like there's no more to go. You know, I'd rather
• 57:38
  Speaker 14: have guys open and we're just not quite hitting them.
• 57:40
  Speaker 8: Depends on who you ask.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen, you know, I know now Girod
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: said today that he felt like they had some some
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: guys open. Yeah, most of what I've seen. I mean,
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: maybe if May played, they would have scored thirty. Right,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Like again, I can play in Fantasy Land. If I
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: can't be proven wrong, I'll tell you what I know.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just I just don't know a way
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: of knowing. I don't even need to jump to the
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: May comparison.
• 58:01
  Speaker 14: It's just after seeing uncoordinated offenses and guys who cannot
• 58:05
  Speaker 14: get away from coverage, it's you're seeing some of that,
• 58:08
  Speaker 14: you know, and and they're not connecting on it yet,
• 58:10
  Speaker 14: so they have to to actually, you know, make it productive.
• 58:12
  Speaker 14: But regardless of May, it's just all right. It seems
• 58:15
  Speaker 14: like there's an offense there. Guys are open, it's coordinated.
• 58:17
  Speaker 14: You know, they know where they're going, so that, you know,
• 58:19
  Speaker 14: I think that's a good sign. Again, though they got
• 58:21
  Speaker 14: to execute.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I agree, and I think that you know, Brissett missed
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: some throws too, that I don't think really got much attention.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of the mistakes get covered up
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: when you win. Yeah, I think some of these things
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: would have been you know, illustrated a little bit.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: If they had lost Borrow had come down the end
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: of the game and scored a touchdown Bengals win, we'd
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: be talking about the stuff that the offense left on
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: the table that they didn't want.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: That's I think, Mayo, there's that line. Very early in
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: this pres convience. We felt like we left a lot
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: of plays on it.
• 58:51
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it's just funny because things are completely falling apart
• 58:55
  Speaker 14: in Caroline after one game, you know, and here we
• 58:58
  Speaker 14: are proof of concept.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 59:00
  Speaker 14: It's it's it's one extreme or the other. You lose
• 59:03
  Speaker 14: the game, it's, oh my god, what are they?
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: You know, And as frustrating as it is, Mike, it's
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: kind of what makes the NFL great is the gross
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: overreactions week to week. They're one week like soap operas.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: You don't have that game the next day to wash.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: You know, we'll go We'll go to the to the
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: fun baseball team in town. They shut out, that's all.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: There's a path that they and by the way behind
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: two other.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Teams, and there's only twenty games left.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, there's not that many left, really, So they beat
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Baltimore twelve three, right, I do because I want them
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: to spend money and try to put the best team
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: they can, and I think making the playoffs would send
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: a bad message to John Henry anyway. That's I can't
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: be any more honest than that. No, I want the
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: team to.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Be good, I know.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: So they win twelve three, they beat Baltimore on Monday night,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: they may have found their way, like this is this
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: is what I'm reading on Twitter. And they lose the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: next night, and then you know, the next night. To
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: Fred's point, you don't have to wait a week. You
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: don't have a week to debate that they found their way.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: If the next night you come out, the Bats are
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: silent again, you lose five to three, and you'll drop
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: another game back, you have another team flip you Detroit
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: got ahead of them, and all of a sudden, it's like,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: you know what was Whereas in the NFL you have
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: a whole week to argue whether or not it's it's sustainable.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: It's the beauty of it, I know what I mean.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: That's what makes the NFL great.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 14: I think that's what I was happy about after the win.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 14: Was just like, wow, this is going to be a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 14: nice week. Like what does this mean in the broad
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 14: I don't know, but like, this is going to be
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 14: a nice week. I mean, but there's also we were
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 14: talking about, well now that we're gonna get blogged by
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 14: these guys and stuff.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: You know, so I enjoy it. It's this is so
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: much more fun whan they win.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, Parcels used to talk about it. You know,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: you lose that game and you wake you want to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: throw up in your mouth, and it just it just
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: ruins every taste is good. Yeah, you know, but if
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: you win the game, then you're riding high.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 14: I just I love the saying that it's like winning
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 14: doesn't feel as good as losing feels bad.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: Something along those lines.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: A lot of the great safety.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: And that's the other thing. I know, it's all the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: pros athletes and all the sports put in a lot
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: of work, but a lot of work is put into
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a football game. It's you know, I know, some teams
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: make it look easy, you know, the mahomes is and all,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: but it's it's hard to win in the NFL, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of work is put into every game. So
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: when you win that game, it's like almost a relief,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: like you know, and when you lose that game, it's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: it's put.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: All the way. And I don't like the guy.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: But did you hear Jim Habba after the game?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: No?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: You know, like he won his first game obviously back
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: with with the Chargers, and he's just like, you know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: these is it's really hard. These wins are really hard
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: to get in the NFL. This is why I don't
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: like him.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: But he's absolutely This is why I was so upset
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: with with Josh McDaniels in Denver, Like you know, he know,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: like he knows what it takes to lose or win
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: a football game in this league and how bad it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: feels to lose a game.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: What's the what's the maddest, Mike, you've been here since
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: nineteen what's the madness that you've ever seen? Fred? Can
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: you recall?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Oh Man, that's a good question because and Andy had
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: to be part of that's probably the clip that's probably
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: the answer with that, But that's not football related.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: The post game bus in Denver and O nine all
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: time is definitely one of the top three.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, like, I don't want to say
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: like Josh meant to be disrespectful, but I think he
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: just he just lost he lost his mind for a second,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: understanding that I know they're my ex teammates and all
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: that stuff, but they're they're hurting right now and they
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: don't want to see me come over to their bus,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: you know, whooping.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: It up and hugging everybody. Yeah, So me and Andy
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: started off, we're all in the bus, We're all on
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: the bus side, right, and me and Andy Stott like
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: need like his friends, Like, he goes, look at this,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: what is he doing over here?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: Up?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: So when Andy and I originally are like, Fred, what's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: she supposed to be? Like, He's not supposed to be happy.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: He's just coming over, like, you know whatever. And then
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: it went like it went on for like another five minutes,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: and finally Me and Andy were like, I ain't saying nothing.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: He's kind of right now. He's ready to explode. Because
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: even it got to the point where even Andy and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: I were like, all right, Josh, go back on your sideline.
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  Speaker 20: First of all, just a day of remembrance for nine
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  Speaker 20: to eleven to all the servicemen first responders once again,
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  Speaker 20: just letting them know that we appreciate them. And you know,
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  Speaker 20: kind of talked about it this morning in the squad
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 20: meeting and it was like a reminder of how old
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 20: I'm getting. That we have people in the squad room
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 20: that didn't live that experience, but everyone in here did
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 20: live that experience, and we remember where we were during
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 20: that experience, and I don't want that to go unnoticed. Secondly,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 20: I would say, just to wrap up last week before
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 20: we get onto Seattle. I do think it's important to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 20: recognize some of the players that may not get all
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 20: the stories written about them or anything like that, but
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 20: we have practice players of the week, and I tell
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 20: the guys, you know, every week that the process is important,
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  Speaker 20: and the practice players they make sure they do a
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  Speaker 20: good job going out there giving us a good look
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 20: and preparedness for the game, and so after going forward,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 20: So after wins, only after wins, we'll have a list
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 20: of practice players. So for this week it was Eric Johnson,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 20: O'shawn Mathis, Joe Giles, Harris aj Thomas, Joe mill On, Kashawan,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 20: Booty will Cox, Mitch will Cox, and Curtis Jacobs. Thought
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 20: those guys went out there and gave us a good
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 20: look and gave us a chance to win the football game.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 21: Going back to your first stagent, Hope, what are your
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 21: thoughts on Joe Cardona and what he does on and.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: Off the field.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, I have nothing but love and respect
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 20: for Joe. Actually had him go up and speak to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 20: the team, and you know when that happened, what he
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 20: talked about was, you know, when that happened, just the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 20: rallying of all the let's say eighteen year olds that
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 20: really are like we got to sign up and join
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 20: the military and really protect our nation. Joe has two jobs.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 20: He has two jobs, and football is the second one.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 20: You know, the first one is as a serviceman, you know,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 20: to serve, to serve our country. And I think all
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 20: the all the players in the locker room understand, uh,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 20: you know how tough it is for him. Uh, and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 20: at the same time have a great appreciation for everything
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 20: he does.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: Diructly go down that road a little further. I take
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 9: you were probably in high school at the time.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 20: Yeah, so I was in school. I just remember everyone
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 20: having to go to to the cafeteria and they just
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 20: turned on the TVs and uh, it was crazy.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 20: I'm a military brat ish you know. You know, my
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 20: grandfather was a chief Master sergeant, my mom's in military
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 20: as a civilian. My stepdad also in the military, So
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 20: I understand and and understood what was going on at
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 20: the same time. It was it was one of those
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 20: things where you just feel like you're in a dream
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 20: and don't really Yeah, you don't think it's real. I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 20: will say there is significance even here in the Northeast.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 20: I think one of the flights actually took off from Boston,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 20: if i'm both of them took off from Boston. Okay, yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 20: so definitely significant here.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: In this region.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 13: Russ.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 18: You mentioned your age just an opening statement, which is
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 18: very thoughtful.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 20: But going up against Mike McDonald, another young rookie coach
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 20: over at Seattle, have.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 13: You guys crossed past much that you've been able to
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 13: discuss coming from similar defensive background.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 20: Uh no, I mean it's a short Actually, we haven't
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 20: had any conversations there. You know, I've had conversations with
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 20: other coaches around the league, but I haven't had the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 20: privilege to meet with Mike.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Obviously, Mike led one of the better defensive league last
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: year in Baltimore.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 21: As you study them their system, what kind of stands
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 21: out about the way they like to play.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean everyone is a threat. When we talk
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 20: about known rushers, it's really it's really the unknown rushers
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 20: that make that Baltimore defense special. Like you don't know
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 20: who's coming, you know, they drop out defensive ends. They
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 20: do things that are very similar to some of the
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 20: things that we do as well, you know, the zone
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 20: blitzing and protecting deep part of the field. And historically
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 20: they've always had a good defense and have a bunch
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 20: of good players.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 9: So yeah, the players showed him to take them to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 9: the where you've heard before the day stup reactions.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 20: That was the players, and we talked about artificially creating
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 20: adversity during practice, and one of those ways is to
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 20: go to the hill after a two hour and fifteen
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 20: minute practice where you know, you go one or two ways.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 20: One way is like, ah, man, I got to go
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 20: to the hill, and the other way is all right,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 20: we've got to break down, bust down through this wall
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 20: and push our bodies because most of the time, and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 20: I tell the guys this all the time, like your
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 20: mind is going to give up before your body gives up.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 20: And so being able to do that and go to
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 20: the hill or take them to the deep water as
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 20: we like to say, uh, because we do have a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 20: lot of faith in our conditioning and what we've gone
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 20: through throughout the week and throughout the summer. The guys
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 20: that started saying like for you know, most people say,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 20: oh fourth quarter, They were like, take them to the hill,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 20: and I love it.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: And that was from the players.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: You know, sorry the hill. Yeah I did.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 20: And one thing I would say is, you know, at
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 20: least from my perspective, it was always one of those
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 20: times where I'm just gonna prove everybody wrong anyway, you know,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 20: in college. I remember in college making coaches so mad
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 20: because in college, what they would do, like say someone
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 20: was late, they would get the whole team up and
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 20: we would have to run and all that stuff, and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 20: that one guy wouldn't run. And so I used to
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 20: make the coaches mad because I would just keep running.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 20: I would be laughing the entire time.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: The entire time.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 20: But being able to do that in tough times is
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 20: definitely a good thing. I don't want to get into
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 20: a lot of that. What I will say is, you know,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 20: he just has to continue to progress and continue to develop,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 20: both on the field and off the field. And you
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 20: know that's my responsibility ultimately.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 9: Jer what did what did Seattle show you offensively? That
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 9: has You're right or something?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I know most of the time we always talk
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 20: about the quarterback first and foremost, which they haven't experienced quarterback.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 20: What I would say is just the run game. I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 20: think Kenneth he doesn't get a lot of hype. I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 20: don't know what his Matten rating is or anything like that.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 20: But when you turn on the film, like this guy
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 20: pops off the film and he's a very aggressive runner.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 20: He can do it all. And then you look at
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 20: the receivers, you know, different skill sets. There's a huge
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 20: contrast between Lockett and Metcalf, but they have a good team,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 20: have a good offense.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 18: How difficult is it to game playing against the team
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 18: that only has one game of film like the coaching staff.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 20: I mean, this is why I always preach about awareness.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 20: I mean it kind of goes back to that conversation,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 20: and you guys will probably get tired of me hearing,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 20: tired of me saying it, but these games go back
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 20: to awareness. It's about you know, you can watch the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 20: film and at some point during the game they will
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 20: revert back to what you know, who they are. Now,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 20: I'm saying that most teams script the first fifteen plays
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 20: as key breaking type of plays or to get the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 20: ball in the hands of one of the guys that
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 20: has to get started early. Same thing in the second half.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 20: So you know, take the first fifteen plays that are
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 20: scripted to break the tendencies that we've watched on film.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 20: And this is why awareness, in my opinion, is more
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 20: important than sixty percent of the time when they're in
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 20: the gun, they're doing this. Sixty forty is like I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 20: can't play like that.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: And now great moments in.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: History. So I do the thing where you see somebody
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: in their car they're about to leave, so you pull over,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: put your single line and just sit there. So this
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: guy in a big tesla comes up right in front
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: of me, starts giving me the hands like what what
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like? You know, mostly go around, go around? You know,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, you wouldn't do it, wouldn't go around. Finally,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: you know, he decides, oh, I'll go around. So he
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: goes around, but then he decides to do a pull
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: up rolldown. He pulls up next to Maxin. He pulls
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: the pull up, pull up, roll down and pulls down
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: the window. So he starts talking to me, and I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: just say keep driving. Just like that. You had the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: kids in the backseat. I don't care, but I just
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: say keep he goes. We'll talk later. I know we won't.
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  Speaker 13: You know. That was it.
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  Speaker 2: the email addresses Deuce, Paul, myself, Matt in the booth,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Evan will be by later. We get a couple of
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: phone calls, and I do want to talk about something
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: we touched on yesterday. We didn't get to It was
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  Speaker 2: reviews of Tom's first game as a play uh color analyst.
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  Speaker 2: But let's take these calls and then we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: Helen is in San Francisco. What's up, Hellen?
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  Speaker 12: Gentlemen?
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  Speaker 2: Can you Yes, we can.
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  Speaker 13: It's great.
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  Speaker 14: Sunday's unexpected wind put me over the moon. So I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 14: am calling to speak your perspective to bring.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 13: Me back down to earth.
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  Speaker 14: What are aspects of the team that fans are worrying
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 14: about that they shouldn't be worrying about, And what are
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 14: aspects of the.
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  Speaker 10: Team that fans seem unconcerned about that they should.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 13: Be concerned about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one. So what are they worried
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: about that they shouldn't be worried about? And what aren't
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: they worried about that they should be That's.
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  Speaker 14: A tough question because I feel like the things they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 14: are worried about are what they should be worried about,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 14: like the offensive line and you know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so should they be worried right now about when
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Drake may should play perfect?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: That's a perfect one. And there was a lot of that. Yeah,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: people saying like, should this accelerate Drake may coming back?
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  Speaker 17: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Does it slow it down?
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  Speaker 2: We're not worried about the coaches, figured don't worry about
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: when Drake and what are we worried about? Sorry, I.
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  Speaker 6: Would I would say pass rush.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: I would say the past rush.
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  Speaker 14: I think everybody know, and myself a great game, key
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 14: On White, nice job, But the overall effectiveness of the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 14: pass rush, I don't that's something to me that really
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 14: worries me. Uh, you know, if they can't scheme it
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 14: up and they're not getting guys home. I think you're
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 14: saying that people aren't worried about pass rush. They're thinking
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 14: we got key On White's and all pro and that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 14: everything's going to be fine.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: Worry about the pass.
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  Speaker 4: Rush, okay, worry about the pass rush?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I worry. I don't know, like I worry about me,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 8: like I worry about everything.
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't necessarily think the offensive line is as
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: big a concern as a lot of people have it
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: to be.
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  Speaker 8: But I think it's a huge concern, you know what,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: Like I can't.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm not worried about right now,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: but I should be is what if David Andrews gets hurt.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about it because I don't want to
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: now I am.
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  Speaker 4: I would say depth in general, yeah, is right, I
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: think because depth, I don't think they have a lot
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: of depth on that.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Team's Von Godshaw if he got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's out of my mind. But maybe
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: I should be a little bit more worried about it.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: That's a good question, Helen, and thank you for that.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Cameron is in North Carolina, Cam, what's up?
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  Speaker 12: Hey, guys. Yesterday one of the callers mentioned that if
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 12: Jacobe were to go six and two, would Gerrod Mayo
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 12: have the stones to pull him for Drake may And
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 12: I don't think they should. I don't think will. But
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 12: at the same time, if they're so strict to this plan,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 12: this developmental plan for Drake and it does get to that,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 12: say set game where they haven't planned that that would
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 12: be the time to stick in Drake may Do you
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 12: think they would still be strict to the plan or
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 12: do you think that they would kind of push the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 12: plan back because of the success of the team. And
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 12: I'll take it off there, thank you.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: I know we talked about it yesterday and I said,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: if they're winning games twelve to ten and they're six
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: and two, I think they would. Now you disagree, right, Paul.
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  Speaker 4: Don't think there's any scenario that would exist that they
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: would be six and two and make.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 8: A change other than an injury.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: And I don't know. It's a great question. It's a
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: great scenario that he brings up. I would say, I
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: don't know that they're playing. I know they have a plan.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: What if the two games for the last two games.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know that the.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: Plan specifically says in week X, Right, you know what
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: I mean? Like, that's what the scenario he's trying to unfold. Like, right,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: they're saying, we're gonna let play the first eight games
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: no matter what. Then May goes in. Right, and now
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: does the plan change because there's six and two?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: I don't think that's the way the plan is I
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 8: set up?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Right, I agree.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 14: I think the question of would you rather make the
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 14: playoffs with Jakobe Rissett this year and not play May
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 14: or miss the playoffs.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: And have May play, I'd rather make the playoffs.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: I think it's hard to say I would rather not
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: make the playoffs. I know I want me to play
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: as badly as anybody, probably except for Evan. But I
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: I you know, if you're a fan of the team
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: and you don't want them to make the playoffs, and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know how that, I don't know how you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: But now.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Now people will say, oh, but you're adding extra pressure
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: to him because next year you're going to expect him
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: to go to the playoffs and it's his first year
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: and blah blah blah.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: You know, Jacoby gets him to the playoffs and then
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: you start, may know, you think.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: That's a stretch. People are going to say, this team
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: went to the playoffs with Jacoby Brissett, Drake may should
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: at least get them to where he was.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: Well, when when he's ready, yeah, next year, I'm talking,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: but that's fair.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: If he's not ready next year, then what are we doing?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: I'm saying when he's like, well, if he doesn't play
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: at all this year, I'm going to tell you right now,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: he's not going to be ready at the start of
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: next year.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: Ye see what next year?
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: To play to this? He'll but no, but he will
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: like Tom Brady wasn't ready when he just went in
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: and ended up winning the Super Bowl.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: I know, but and Tom Brady wasn't the third overall pick.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: If let's just say, for whatever reason, Drake may doesn't
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: play this year, he will be the Week one starter
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: next year.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: When I said not ready, I didn't mean like not ready,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: like the coaches won't play him. Yeah, I mean he's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: not going to be ready to be his best self. Quite.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 14: You can only get that by playing yes and taking
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 14: your lumps and having some bad games.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: Of course, that's why that's that's why a lot of
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: people like me want him in now.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: I want him in now too. Right now, that was
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: a little felger like right there, Like I'm the only
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: one that wants Drake made to play raised in Atlanta?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 13: Ray?
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  Speaker 16: Hey, I'm just checking anger to hear from you all
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 16: another week and pretty much you know, we're we're on
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 16: the right track, you know. I'll just keep a simple
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 16: on his call. We're on the right track and we
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 16: just need to protect Sat at all costs. And and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 16: like you guys said, make sure that you know Andrews
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 16: is okay too, you know, because that's the point job
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 16: that he has to do in the front. So those
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 16: were on the right track, you know, without being ahead
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 16: of ourselves or whatever. You know, we can take going.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 16: We can dominate the Seattle. We can we keep going,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 16: you know, with it. So that's all I got to
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 16: say for this call. Man, good to hear from you, guys.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Ray, more with a statement than a question was coming,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: like Alex is in Greece? What's up? Alex?
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 11: Hey, guys, is are going good?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Where in Greece are you? Okay? I don't know where
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: that is, but.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: One thing that you could have said, Sparta?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Are you in Sparta?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 11: No, I'm We're in Boston. The first first of my
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 11: family born in America, and I moved back home with everybody.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 11: So yeah, So I just had a question kind of
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 11: to play devil's advocate for the win the other week. Again,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 11: I know it's just week one and there's a long
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 11: way to go, but are you guys worried if none
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 11: of our offensive draft picks end up really picking up
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 11: because Javon Baker already got suspend and that Polk wasn't
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 11: involved Jahem Bell isn't really doing anything, would it be
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 11: a disappointment for you guys if only Drake May is
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 11: the person who really shows up this year and shows
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 11: you anything because so far, I mean, we haven't really
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 11: seen anything to be excited about from the young offensive weapons.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 11: So that's all I got.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Minimally, I want I would not poke to do something.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: If Drake May pans out, I would not be upset.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I want the more guys that pan out,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: the better. But as long as Drake May panned.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Out, what is he talking about Baker being suspended?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know where he got that is that
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: unless I miss a report.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: I know some people were just didn't play.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Thinking that maybe he didn't play for disciplinary reasons. A
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people haven't heard anything.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: A lot of people thought Jalen Polk was open, you know,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: from time to time. So I'm not looking at like
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: one game and saying, well, that's a disappointing draft pick.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: Jaean Bell was a seventh round pick. Like, if he
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: pans out, great, you know, I'm not putting him in
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: the same cat category. But if Drake May works out,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: that's worth.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: It for the biggest piece of the puzzle.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 14: But I mean, I'd be disappointed if Jalen Polk doesn't
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 14: turn around have a good, you know, solid year.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not expecting him.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: To like, what would you rather have Like Jalen Polk,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: Jahem Bell and Javon Baker all work out and Drake
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: may doesn't.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, the other way around, Jake may all day.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 14: I mean, that's the hardest piece to get, uh, and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 14: he's got all the talent in the world. So I mean,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 14: if they do get Drake May you know that, I mean,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 14: get Drake may By if he does become the guy,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 14: everything's on the table.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: As Ev't said, everything's on the table.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: I mean back to Helen's question, what is something that
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: right now we're not worried about that we should be
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: should be we worried still about the equality of our
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: draft picks, like getting back on track with making good drafts.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: Oh but if I was really like, all right, so
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: we're going to go negative concerns, it's is, you know,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: basically my wheelhouse. Okay, So I would worry that how
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: they played offensively is how they want to play.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Right, But you're worried about it?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how they played offensively in the game is not
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: an aberration. That's how they want to go to He.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Didn't be worried about it, No, I'm.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: That's something that I that I don't think a lot
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: of people are worried about.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm talking about you, but you are worried about it.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: So the question was so I think he just put
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: me in.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: I felt like we were doing picks. All of a sudden,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: he put me in the grinder. The question was, what
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: is something that you're worried about that other people aren't
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: know that you shouldn't be No, he asked for both.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Helen asked, I know, but.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: It wasn't what are you worried about that other people?
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: It's like, what are you worried about that you shouldn't
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: be worried about?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, this is something that other people aren't worried about.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: But I am bringing other people. I want to know
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: your opinion.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: I just told you. Okay, how they play offense is
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: something that I would I would be worried about that.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: Fans aren't they think that Sunday was great?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: That's what that was the second part.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: That's the spirit of the question.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: Ask something that the fans aren't worried about that they
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: should be. I don't correct. I think that was one
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: of the two questions. Okay, what are fans not worried
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: about that they should.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Be and you're telling them that, I would say that,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: all right, all right.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: I think you should be worried about how they want
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: to play offense. Yeah, because I've heard Alex van Pelt
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: say it all summer. I've heard Gerrod Meo say it
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: all summer. What they did on Sunday wasn't like by accident,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: the way the game plan unfolded. That's how they want
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: to play. I don't think you can win doing that. Yeah,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: I'm on record as saying that I would be worried
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of fans, A lot of fans.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Aren't, including the guy who said yesterday, if they play
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: like that all year, they can win eleven games.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: He did, well, they have to have two games where
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: they score twenty six or more.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a lot of qualifiers. But if you
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: play like that, you ain't scoring twenty six.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: All right. We talked a little bit about talking about
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady's debut as a color analyst. I heard a
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: little bit about it. I didn't watch or listen to
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: the whole game, but I tuned in from time to time.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: To me, it was just weird hearing his voice in
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: that contest. Sure, it was just weird.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be. I want to turn this over
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: to Mike because I think he has something here, not major.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: The one thing that I'll say which kind of contradicts
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: what I've often said about the announceers, like I make
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: fun of the Syracuse bots. Yeah, his voice was funny. Yeah,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: his voice sounded funny on the air.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 17: To me.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: What a catch and what a throw?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 17: Right.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 8: I don't think he perfect.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 14: It wasn't a big take that I have, but I
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 14: just felt like he was guy pointing out things that
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 14: everybody sees, you know, everybody sees like you need more
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 14: from a color analyst, especially from a guy like Brady.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 14: And we talked a little bit about Romo, you know,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 14: maybe using some of the pregame meetings to forecast things.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: But I like that, like I when first started, did
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: you like him or not?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: Like I did like him?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: I'd like him. I did like him.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 14: I got you know, it's a kind of gun stale
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 14: and I don't really listen to these guys anyway. We
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 14: just kind of watched the game and talk amongst ourselves.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 14: But I want insight from Brady. I want to know
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 14: what's going through his mind. If he were watching this
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 14: coverage and in stead, he's like and Marca Parson's off
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 14: the edge, and yeah, there he is, and he sacked him.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 14: You know, like, I know, I know, I like, tell
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 14: me something. I don't know, Tom, you know, and again
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 14: like I think he's new and it's probably get better.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: But what it might being a mean to hate by
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: Brady lying hatred or Brady just comes out at all times.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: I love that man.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: Now, I thought it was exactly what Mike said. I
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: didn't really hear anything. I didn't watch the game start
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: to finish. I did, believe it or not very rare
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: for me. I shut off Red Zone and put on
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: Fox so I could hear like a driver or two
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Now by the time that happened,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: because you know, we were doing the post game by
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: the time I got home. But you know, the game
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: was pretty much decided. But like there was one deep
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: ball that Watson put right in Amari Cooper's hands. Brady
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: didn't say anything about being dropped or anything like that.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 14: I was like, yeah, come on, yeah, it's not conventional,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 14: but I'd almost rather just the playback by play.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: Shut up.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 14: Let Tom Brady just talk as if he's the quarterback
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 14: watching the line of scrimmage. Just rattle it off, buddy,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 14: what are you seeing, safeties?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: What are you looking for? Is he you know, like
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: just blasted out. You know, it's perfect, Mike, that's it
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: had too much dead air.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: He's circling Micah. Yeah, circling Micah Parsons. So tell us,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: like what's going through your head? Like, okay, so obviously
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: this guy's been disruptive all day. You need to slide
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: the protection over here. Deshaun Watson doesn't do that quickly
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: enough something you know, that's very rudimentary, Like he should
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: be able to do that, you know, at a very
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: high PhD level football wise.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 8: And I didn't hear any of that.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I heard one person say that the fact that he
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: said the quarterback got lucky on a couple of Frozer's
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: evidence that he's going to be critical of players that
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: kind of lucky.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 10: There.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: Like I just I was envisioning if Brady threw the
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: ball to Cooper. I just was envisioning Amari Cooper never
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: getting the ball thrown to him again. Yeah, like he
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: would have been so Brady would have been so mad
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: because like Watson. Like Watson didn't play well in that game,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: but he got the snot kicked out of him. And
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: like in the fourth quarter of a twenty point game,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: he dropped a dime to Cooper and it went off
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: his hands. I didn't think he gave a great effort
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: for it. I think he gave a scoreboard kind of
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: effort for it, like we're down anyway, and I think
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: Brady would have lost his mind if that pass didn't
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: get caught for him.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: It's funny because there were two promotional videos having to
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: do with Brady getting you know, one was that video
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: with the binders and he showed how like he had
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: binders on every team and he's doing all this research.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: And then there was more of like a teaser that
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Fox put out where you know, the different Tom Brady's
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: throughout his career comes to him about how it's always
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: about the work you put in and you're the goat.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: And so I came into the game thinging, Okay, this
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: guy wouldn't allow that to go out unless he had
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: really put in a different level of preparation and maybe
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: he's going to raise the bar for all other analysts
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: and make it. But it was really vanilla.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 14: I mean by it like everybody's just going, well, he'll
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 14: get better, like he's just he's very well, but you
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 14: can get better from the clips late than he did early.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: But like, yeah, how much I.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Mean too to Matt's point, there was a lot of
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: dead air where who was the guy doing the game
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: with him? I figured Kevin Burkhart. He would stop talking,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: and that's you know, obviously where the color analyst goes in.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: And Tom just said nothing true. And I don't know
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: if that's why he's rainy Defensive Player of the Year.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't know if he was coached Tom.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: If you don't know what to say or don't have
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: anything to say, don't say anything, maybe he was coached
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: that way, but it was it was a little awkward
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: at times.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 8: I think vanilla is a good word two that you used. Fred.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure he will get better, and he's
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: never he's never done it. That was his first ever game. Yeah,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: and I know practice, but it's a little bit different.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: So he will get better, but I'm not sure that.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: Like there's been a lot of you know, the Brady
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: support and you know there's a million out there, but like, well,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: everybody told him he couldn't do X, Y and Z
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: coming out of college, and that it's not the same.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 8: You can't.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: You can't just like lift more weights and study more.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: Like he knows football better than anyone that's doing that job,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Like you're not like he knows what it's not like,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: it's not in his personality. I don't think to be
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: like to me in engaging on air personality. I just
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: don't think he has that.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 7: How long until it's a three person booth.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 8: That's a good point.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: I from the day it was announced, I never thought
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: i'd see the day where he would do it. I
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: thought something would happen where it wouldn't happen. But there
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: he is. From Evan's here.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: Hello, two songs on the More was the first one.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: I don't worry about.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: All right, Evan, what do you got for us? Well?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 21: Well, well, Patriots back out at practice on Wednesday, and
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 21: although no disrespect to city, so who was not at practice,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 21: I thought it was good news that everybody else was
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 21: at practice. So you come off a game and it
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 21: seems like they got out of that game relatively healthy.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 21: I'm sure there's some bumps and bruises, we never got
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 21: to the injured, but there were no big injuries. Everybody
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 21: at practice today besides City, Like I said, he wasn't
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 21: at practice at all last week either. So uh, some
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 21: good news, some bad news, but I would say mostly good.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: It's nice when the other team doesn't fight back.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: I'm starting to wonder a little bit about the City.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 14: Like, I know, like it probably wasn't the catastrophic Achilles
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 14: tar that we thought at first, but you were a
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 14: little bit, you know, curious about what it actually was.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: It's just I mean, it seems like it's it's something significant.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's if it's just like they still calling an ankle, yes,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: it could it be like could it be a strained calf,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: you know, like high you know something like that.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 8: You know, you look at what they're dealing with McCaffrey.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 21: Now, yeah, you worry about the the Kristaps Porzingis injury
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 21: where it was like the right up his calf and
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 21: it's like the ligament that attaches to the achilles. But
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 21: it's not the Achilles itself. The problem is is that
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 21: if you play on it too early, then the Achilles
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 21: is next.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: And I wonder if they did that, if I wonder
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: if he went to practice because he was back on
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: the practice field one of those days, right last week,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: the week between the game and then the game week,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: right the week between the Washington game and game week,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: wasn't he on the practice field once?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 21: I maybe very briefly, but I haven't seen him participate
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 21: in any like extended practice since the injury.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 8: So okay, so maybe I'm miss remembering that.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: Okay, yep, So yeah, there we go.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: I hear it was pads today.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: Pads today, full pads, yep.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 21: And it's it's cool because we actually, because of when
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 21: locker room is, we actually get to see them on
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 21: the pads, putting on the pads and getting ready for practice.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: So now it makes my job easier. It's one less
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: thing that I have to note.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: To note because you've already seen I've already seen it.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: So I saw them putting the pads on, and I
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: was like, pads today. Mental note.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: Girod mentioned that they are going to announce who are
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: with the practice players of the week, but they were
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: in the black jerseys that they did in the past.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 21: They were indeed, yes, they were indeed wearing those and
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 21: I thought it was interesting on that list. A couple
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 21: of the claims, the waiver claims made that list, so
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 21: maybe that's an indication all of them were inactive for
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 21: the game on Sunday. Maybe that's an indication that those
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 21: guys are getting closer to contributing.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: So so you've seen these practices before, even you know,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: in season practices, and you get to see the warm ups, right,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: conditioning and the stretching. Avid, was there more up tempo
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: from our starting quarterback during that session than you've seen.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: In the past, more up tempo like or just more
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: of a.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: Feeling of I'm I'm the captain, I'm I'm the leader
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: of the team from Jacoby Brissett.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 8: Oddly specific question.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say so.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 21: I think he's kind of been the same guy, the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 21: same guy, Okay, since he started training camp, and I
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 21: think he's pretty much been the same. But they did
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 21: say that Joe Milton was the practice player of the week,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 21: and so he was out there in a in a
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 21: black jersey and it was Joe Burrow, I guess right,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 21: Joe Burrow. Yeah, him and Drake may mimicking Joe Burrow
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 21: on the scout team last week. So it was it
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 21: was about the same, I would say in terms of
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 21: his his energy or his mood. But the one thing
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 21: I with these practices is a little bit different is
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 21: that the skill players, both offensively and defensively, not the line,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 21: the defensive line and the offensive liner are doing their
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 21: own thing. But they're doing a lot of that conditioning
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 21: work that we saw them do in in a training
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 21: camp where they were like running through the the ladders
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 21: and like stuff like that to start practice. They're doing
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 21: a lot of that work band work, you know, things
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 21: of that nature. While that is you know, we are
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 21: able to watch practice, so that's going on still even
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 21: into the season now that they're warming up in that way.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 14: Think it's actually called the dynamic warm up seriously in
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 14: fun of the dynamic kick up, but they called this
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 14: like a dynamic warm up.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just interesting.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 21: I thought that, you know, they we had the whole
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 21: take them to the Hills thing, you know, from the
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 21: game on Sunday, and it does seem like the conditioning
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 21: stuff is real. You know that they are really taking
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 21: that seriously, and they have the guys out there, you know,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 21: the corners, the safeties, linebackers, receivers, quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 21: those guys are out there doing these long shunning stuff.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: Now, I know you can't verify because you don't get
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: to see all the practice. But the report that Drake
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: May was getting thirty percent of the first team snaps
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: in practice, yes, surprising to you? Is that number seemed
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: just right too high? Too little? What do you think?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 21: I would say, maybe a little too high, too high.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 21: I did have a conversation with Drake in the locker
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 21: room before practice, and that was not the impression. I
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 21: don't know who reported that though, so I don't want
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 21: to like throw any shade at somebody.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: Someone said the sideline report, Mike and I were probably
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: deep in conversation, so we missed it. Someone said that
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: the sideline reporter, okay reported that. Yeah, that that's definitely.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 21: I mean, look, he was the backup quarterback, so he's
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 21: going to get a couple of reps towards the end
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 21: of every team period, you would think, just because if
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 21: he has to play in the game, he's got to
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 21: be somewhat ready. So maybe that that's probably probably maybe normal,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 21: Like I don't know, I.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: Don't know, that's why.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what a normal number would be.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I do know that he did a lot of
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 21: scout team stuff though that was big, And one of
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 21: the things that he was saying to me was just
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 21: that it's good because he's going up against the starting
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 21: defense of the Patriots. He's going up against a really
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 21: good defense, mostly with practice squad guys and backups at
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 21: his skill positions, and he's got to go out there
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 21: and mimic Joe Burrow and make stuff happen and try
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 21: to make throws on a really good defense.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 6: So I think that is good for him.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, Mike and Wilmington formerly Bill Ricca rights in. I
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: saw a tweet of this is really a question for Evan,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: he says, but.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, please be quiet.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: I saw a tweet of someone who tracked every team's
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: use of motion on offense. Patriots used motion the fifth
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: fewest percentage of offensive plays in motion during the snap,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: the second fewest. The teams near us were the Browns
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: and the Panthers. I know the Patriots are always near
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: the bottom of the league in motion. Is this purely
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: a personal issue or do our coaches not know how
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: to use motion to get the most out of the offense.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Teams like the Chiefs, Dolphins, Niners, use motion on over
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: eighty percent of the plays.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 21: Yeah, so the day I saw from Next Gen had
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 21: the Patriots like more middle of the pack than that.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 21: Sometimes how you classify different types of motions can be
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 21: different from one person to the other. But they don't
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 21: major in motion in this offense. They did a little
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 21: bit more under O'Brien. I would say last year they
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 21: are like twelfth, I want to say in motion rate,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 21: So they have done it a little bit more in
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 21: the past. I think the biggest thing is that if
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 21: you're going to motion, then you want the motion to
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 21: have a purpose. You don't want to just motion for
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 21: the sake of motioning. And I think sometimes certain coaches
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 21: believe that as much as it can cause issues for
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 21: the defense, it almost causes as many issues for the
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 21: offense if you're not quite buttoned up on everything that
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 21: you're doing. So I'm a big fan of motion, especially
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 21: in the run game, because I think it creates angles
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 21: and it creates numbers to certain size of the formation
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 21: in the run game. And then obviously if you show
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 21: the same motion, then that can be eye candy to
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 21: the defense on play action to sequence those things together
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 21: that oh, here comes that motion again, that means they're
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 21: probably running this run play. Oh actually no, now it's
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 21: play action. So those are ways that you can kind
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 21: of dress up plays for play.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: It's also a way for the quarterback to see how
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: the defense reacts.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like pre snap shifting is big with that.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 21: The Patriots with Brady used to do that all the time,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 21: where they'd shift Edelman from one side to the other.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 21: If somebody follows him, it's probably man to man coverage.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 21: If somebody doesn't and you kind of bump over, then
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 21: it's probably zone coverage. But defenses have actually wised up
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 21: to that. And the Patriots did this a couple of
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 21: times on Sunday where they put Gonzales on Chase in
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 21: the slot and then played zone out of it. So
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 21: that would normally be a man to man indicator for
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 21: the defense because like Gonzales traveling into the slot with
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 21: Chase and then they would drop out and play cover
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 21: two And I think that confused Burrow a little bit.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 21: So defenses have kind of caught up to that chess
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 21: match a little And.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: To Paul is still Mike and Wilmington before. But this
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel any different than previous Bill offenses post Brady
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: just fewer penalties than I expected.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I would kind of the one thing that
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: really stood out to me from a positive aspect is
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: the penalties, Like every day in practice, you know it
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: was it was a false start fest and there was
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: I think one. I think Vederian logo called for one
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: false start, so that to me, they cleaned that up.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: That was a really good sign.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: Eight five five past five hundred is the TPX hotline.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Justina is in North Carolina. I hate Justina.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 13: It's me or Dan. I just wanted to just say
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 13: that I'm not convinced about and I think Mayo was
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 13: singing and talk about you want us to get three
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 13: hundred yards. So he's trying to be podcasting about evidence
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 13: because evidence said that they didn't get enough passing yard.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 13: And I also that T shirt with Tennessee t shirt.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 13: I think they're trying to make fun of, you know,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 13: playing at add team which Duced himself said oh that
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 13: he felt that day wasn't gonna be as good because
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 13: he from he just he faced some bad defensive league
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 13: and I kind of wish people would stop judging him
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 13: by the league he came from the Fighters, challenge yet
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 13: and I'm just not convinced that that Jacobe was the
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 13: one the one yet because he yeah, he said, he said,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 13: I will I load the protoplay and I get dunk
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 13: and and and run and in the run play he did.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 13: He he said he learned from other quarterbacks where he's
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 13: learned from his quarterback on his team right now, Drake
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 13: may Jack Raggy knows those things. Jakhobe never ran before.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 13: What I understand now all of a sudden, he's bunny,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 13: but you know, I'm not not yet. And at the
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 13: same time, I am concerned that if they don't get
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 13: to get the guy that blocking, that block, that hit
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 13: that kept hitting hitting and hitting him, he will him.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 13: He and Drake would be hurt because that that that
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 13: guy that uh Kobe got up a little bobbed a
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 13: couple of times, and I know they need to cover
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 13: that that end that letting somebody letting the guy get through.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 13: Also, I'm not too happy about the things that that
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 13: last that was the coach from last year stay about uh.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 13: He's been saying about Drake and he's not the first
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 13: he said it was his footwork and now he's saying,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 13: you just doesn't read spirits reading. I hear.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, all right, thanks just data, good stuff.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: Like the coach from last year, the coach from last year.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna start calling him that too.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 14: I didn't I saw what Bill said. I just thought,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 14: that's kind of what anybody's been telling us. I mean,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 14: that's what Brady kind of said. I mean, it's what
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 14: did Bill say. It's just that he's got a long
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 14: way to go, and he needs to work on his
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 14: footwork and.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 6: Talent with Patricia.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 8: The thing from a couple of weeks ago. Okay, it
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 8: was last week.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: I got to be honest with you. I didn't catch
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: most of that. Well, it was a tough connection.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: Calling from the State Fair, so there was a lot
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: going on in the background.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so you guys will have to fill in some
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 8: of the blanks after the show.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 21: Okay, but bo Nicks is ready to play two picks
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 21: worst quarterback in the league in Week one. He's ready
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 21: to play Drake May two years away.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: Two years away. Good stuff to It's tough. Long way
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: to go, Mike, long way to go.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Nate in the northern eastern Pennsylvania. Various
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: northeastern Pennsylvania. What's Nate? What up? Deuce?
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  Speaker 5: I got something for you, Thank God Jesus sitting here
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: it's boring.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 22: Now I'm gonna put your mind in a blender with
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 22: the pronunciation of one of our players names. Okay, okay,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 22: And the only reason I'm picking on you is because
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 22: of the age old Chandler versus sham. I don't know
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 22: if you've caught during the broadcast this past week, but
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 22: I think it was Iron Eagle who josh josh Ja
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 22: now wants to be.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: Known as josh Oh. I know it's actually Joshua, Joshua,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: mister Joshua. Yes, that's something that came out very early
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: in the off season.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Correct. If you notice in my writing he's always
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 5: referred to as Joshua.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 8: Correct.
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  Speaker 22: Ye all right, good, as long as you know, I'm sorry,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 22: I didn't know.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: You already knew this.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, pr photos to that.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: We have to know that because we can't, you know,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: can't yeh, can't have any missteps?
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 8: Joshua.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 22: There you go?
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: Can I can?
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: I can?
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  Speaker 13: I can?
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: I give a little bit of nonsense.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 14: I just can't stop thinking about this, and I might
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 14: regret saying this right now, but like my nonsense, we
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 14: had a call from Greece, and then we had a
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 14: woman named Helen call, so it was like the Trojan
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 14: warring here, like Helen, Troy and Grease.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: I just that I can't tell not as good as
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: your normal nonsense. But yeah, I'm sorry, I don't know
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: what it is. But I was just like, Wow, that's weird,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: and that's what we need. Was there an Achilles calling
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: or what's going on?
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: Probably not.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: I had a more would just be silly. I had
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: a more inappropriate joke that I said during the break,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: but I can't repeat it. Let's see little trivia ready,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: Oh nice Patriots trivia with the upcoming Seahawks game one.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: Don't look, I couldn't read it. What is the Seahawks
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: record at Jillette Stadium?
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: They won the last one?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I remember that they lost in four. Dude, I'll
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 21: say at to Lette Stadium. At stadium, I'm going to
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 21: say I was just one and two.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say one and one and one is correct.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 6: I didn't know if there was one back in the day.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 8: I didn't know about So they lost, Yeah, they lost
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 8: the last one.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: It was a night game.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: Like off a by second play fifteen, I want to say, yeah, and.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 8: Then they the Patriots one. I want to say in
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 8: like three, I.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 5: Think Brady on his on his butt through a pass
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: in that game.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: I think I don't recall that. I remember him something
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: to pass from his butt against Cincinnazi.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 8: Maybe that was the different one.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: I want to say, a Matt Hasselbeck led Seahawks team
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: in a reasonably high scoring affair.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yep, I watched that one. You remember the cover
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: for PFW.
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  Speaker 8: No, no, it wasn't bad Kitty. You could have had
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 8: bad Kitty this week.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: I could have, and they when they beat the Bengals
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: and Fred putt, I mean, the Bengals beat the Patriots
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: the opener in one and it was bad bad kitty
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: with the Bengal.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: On today's day in age does not mean the same
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: thing as Freddy.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: Freddy has a lot of really really cool covers under
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: his belts.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 8: That just wasn't one of them. And Indy and I
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 8: have been busting his balls about it ever since.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: So personal take, you know, like you couldn't see like
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: personal preference.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: He cat whipped And there it is.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: The overall regular season record between the Patriots and Seahawks
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: is ten and eight. Who has the most.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: Wins Seattle, New England?
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: They've been bad, I'll say the Patriots, Patriots, Seahawks.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: And finally, how many touchdown passes did Brady have in
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: that Super Bowl game? For four?
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 6: Corrected? Who is the fourth one.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: Man? The other guy Monk Edelman?
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 14: And yeah, still that from like the behind shot in
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 14: the end zone and it's just like a sea of
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 14: hands and like the ball.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: Just like I think he hits the same exact points
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 6: to Josh.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the go ahead, game winner.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 21: Game winner I think they throw to a doola is
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 21: the same one as the championship games against Jacksonville.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: Uh, Corey in Boston. Do you guys think Jacoby's performance
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: last Sunday against the Bengals could help solidify the Patriots
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: winning formula with his mobility throughout the course of the season.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: I do think he played pretty well for the most part.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: But no, I don't think a lot of his mobility
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 4: was escaping sacks. I don't think that's a good for success.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 21: Yeah, his sack avoidance and just like overall managing of pressure.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 21: It's hard to not have that kind of pressure become
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 21: catastrophic to the offense, and he avoided the catastrophic mistakes.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 21: But I do think he's getting a lot of credit
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 21: for that. Yeah, and you know, there were some throws
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 21: I felt like he missed in the game that he's
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 21: not getting dnked for necessarily. But he did do a
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 21: really good job like that. Some young quarterbacks you put
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 21: them in a fifty percent pressure rate like that, and
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 21: there you're gonna have three turnovers, you know, no sweat.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 21: So the fact that they didn't turn the ball over
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 21: like crazy is impressive.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, I would agree more postgame suggestions. Big fan of
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: the show. Really appreciate the guys keeping us in formed,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: especially for those of us that have the misfortune of
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: leaving New England. On the topic of the postgame show,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: please he has some capital letters. Cool it with the
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: mid show fan calls. I know Paul already mentioned it
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: on the pod, but it really disrupted the flow of
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: the conversation. Love my Patriots fans out there, but I
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: tune in to hear your valuable insight. Not to here
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: fellow fans ask the same five questions. No shade to
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: Matt Smith. He seems like a fine, fellow, but that's
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: definitely an adjustment worth making as the season progresses.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: No, it's not we're going to take calls and we're
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: going to have interaction with the fans every week.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the timing of it is what he's
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: talking about. Like I said mid show, don't don't interrupt
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: your conversation to do it, like if you're in a flow.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 6: If you're in a flow and.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: I see what he's saying, I I think I respect that.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: I wasn't. I didn't listen that closely.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: So the only my only think, like, we have segments
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: in the pre and post game show that I think
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: should run like when we were when we were doing
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: the keys to the game. Yeah, we shouldn't do two
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: keys to the game and then take a call and
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 4: then do two more keys of the game. We're doing Good, Bad,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: the Injured. We do that until we're done. Yeah, and
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: that basically is that's a good forty five minutes like
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: the Good, the Bad, the Injured. I would say that
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: I agree with the emailer on that we should, but
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: everybody but he has a voice.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's important after games to let people vent,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: either either celebrate or vent.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: I think it's hugely important, especially in postgames.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean why we're here. We're here as a service.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but because I felt sometimes
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 14: like we were starting to get into a little thing
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 14: and then we kind of broke it up to go
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 14: to calls.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: You know, maybe that's what he meant.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 14: Where it wasn't necessarily just taking calls in general, but
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 14: it's if you feel like a flow is kind of
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 14: starting and you're in a rhythm with something, don't break
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 14: it up for the college.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, maybe that's what he was talking about. We'll yell
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: at Matt later.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: Jordan Hawaii. I know this is turning the page day. However,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to week one to discuss something.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: How do you guys feel about the other rookie quarterbacks
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: as started? Looks like many of them struggled. Does the
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: fact that many of them struggle change your opinion on
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: sitting Drake may or at least validate the team's decision
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: to give him more time to develop. No, it doesn't change.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: My opinion doesn't change either. I expect these guys to struggle.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: That's the whole.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: That's why I want to get it out of your system.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: Learn from what you can and can't do, make mistakes,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: you know, learn from doing or not doing. And I
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: would expect all these guys to struggle Peyton. You know,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: the famous example we use is Peyton Manning. He had
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: more interceptions and you know, than touchdowns his first year,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: but the Colts knew what they had in him. I
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: think it wasn't a big deal.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 14: It's is gonna be interesting to see the progression of
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 14: these guys because you know, we did this as our
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 14: topic on PU and there's certainly value from starting and playing,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 14: but it only really matters if you're able to get
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 14: better and improve because if you know these guys, if
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 14: you know, how do all three of these guys do?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 14: I mean, maybe one of them it starts to unravel
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 14: for him and instead of getting better, it starts to
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 14: get worse, and you know they're not seeing things and
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 14: you know then they got to take a time out.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 14: There's three of them, so start right out of the gate,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 14: see how they progress here in the coming week.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 21: I think, and if anything, Jacobe's performance justifies the team's decision.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 21: The Patriots decision to go this direction because won the
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 21: game you know, like, I don't feel like other quarterbacks
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 21: really have much bearing to me. But if the whole
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 21: decision was could Jacoby's going to manage the game, He's
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 21: going to keep them in games and keep them competitive,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 21: all Drake gets to one hundred percent already, then if you.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: Want one, if you wanted to start Drake may because
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: you thought he was going to be the better choice,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: like go to he's going to be like ready to
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: go right out of the shoot, then I think you
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: probably were wrong. Like the performance by Caleb Williams and
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: Bow Knicks and Jayden Daniels was none of not the
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: least of which none of them surprising at all. Like
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: that's generally how rookie quarterbacks look out of the shoot,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: unless they're on great teams and are just asked to
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: hand the ball off, you know, like then you can
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: have some success right away. But when you're asked to
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: like carry the offense or be a big part of
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: the offense, that's generally how it looks.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 13: C J.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: Stroud is not how it's supposed to look. That's that's
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: an outlier. Have a guy just come into an offense
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: and lift it almost immediately. Don't be confused by what
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: you see in preseason games, because that's not what you see.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels tried to run all over the place in
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: that game against Washington. Even Dan Quinn has already told
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: him that's not what we want. We don't want, that's
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: not what we're looking for. In the preseason, you can
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 4: do that. Caleb Williams made a bunch of plays in
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 4: the preseason, kind of running around street school yard football.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: He did that and got sacked for a nineteen yard
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: loss by a guy who is probably every bit the
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: athlete that he is.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: That wasn't that he wasn't seeing in the preseason. So
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: these guys are going to struggle initially, But that doesn't
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: change my opinion. I think I want Italy Chicago wants
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams to hit those little passes that he missed
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: the IEH.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: Here's the question the.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 4: Next week, in the weeks going forward and be better.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Here's the question to throw back to the email er.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: If all these guys progress faster than Drake may, does
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: that validate them starting sooner? Like if their progression as
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: a pro comes faster.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: Basically, so, Mike, you you had like a hypothetical about
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: would you rather make the playoffs with Jacoby Myers, I mean,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett or not make it with Drake May? And
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 4: I think that maybe if you had said, you know, so,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett is probably gonna win a couple more games
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 4: than Drake May would if he played all seventeen. So
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 4: would you rather go seven and ten with Perssett or
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: five and twelve with May? Something like that, Then I
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: think you're in a conversation for sure that you could
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: look at and say, well, the benefit of May getting
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: that experience and hopefully learning playing better as the season
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 4: goes on might be worth a loss or two. As
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: long as I'm not going to make the playoffs, I
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: would rather make, you know, I'll let you speak of
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: because Mic threw this out earlier. I think it'd be
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 4: hard if you're a Patriots fan, if you said I
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: would rather not make the playoffs than make it regardless.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 21: I mean, I guess it depends on how it looks
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 21: like if they don't make the playoffs with Drake May.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 21: But he looks like he's the real deal and they
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 21: just kind of have to build it up better around him.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 21: But they make the playoffs, like the Pittsburgh Steelers make
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 21: the playoffs, where they are just this middling team that's
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 21: going nowhere.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 21: I might rather be the Drake may Camp just because
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 21: he has like a rookie year like Justin Herbert did,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 21: where he throws for four thousand yards and he looks
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 21: the part, but it's just not a good enough situation
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 21: for them to win a bunch of football games. Then
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 21: I'm almost more on board with that because the next
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 21: ten years are looking brighter. Whereas if they make the
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 21: playoffs at nine to eight with Jacoby Brissett and they're
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  Speaker 21: just kind of this middling twenty twenty two to twenty
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  Speaker 21: twenty one Patriots team.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, being very specific with that, though, like I, I
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  Speaker 4: find it hard to envision the situation that Jacoby Brissett,
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  Speaker 4: a nine year journeyman, had enough around him to make
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, but the guy who was playing lights out
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  Speaker 4: like Justin Herbert did as a rookie didn't have enough
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  Speaker 4: around him to make the playoffs. That's hard for me
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  Speaker 4: to envision that. Now, if that happened like that, I
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  Speaker 4: could you make a good point. I would rather make
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs because now I think May is inheriting a
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  Speaker 4: better situation. You know, like Mike Felder is the only
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  Speaker 4: one who thinks this way. I know, like Mike taught
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  Speaker 4: me this. Mike taught me that it's better to win
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  Speaker 4: games than lose them.
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  Speaker 5: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: You probably should look that up. That's why he's number one,
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  Speaker 4: That's why, that's why he's tops.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so he wants to be the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: Now, he wants to win games. So you create a culture,
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  Speaker 4: and you know how you're picking that a structure around
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  Speaker 4: Drake may better. That shows that you have a good coach,
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  Speaker 4: and it shows you that your GM has picked good players.
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  Speaker 4: Like thanks, you're the one who thinks that would be
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  Speaker 4: a good thing. Like if Jalen Polk is a good player,
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  Speaker 4: that's good. You're the one who thinks that. Thanks Mike Felder,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for breaking down football for all of us.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Yes, I will be seeing him in about
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  Speaker 4: an hour.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, playbook coming up next?
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