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49ers DB Renardo Green on SF defense, Kyle Shanahan exchange, picking off Seahawks TWICE | Richard Sherman · The Richard Sherman Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, hey, I've been playing special teams.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, boo, if this is like this, and I
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  Speaker 2: go out here and play a full game, I got
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  Speaker 2: to get my mind right.
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  Speaker 1: Because if this is like this, then, hey, y'all, hey, boy.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I'm like, yeah, NFL, real, boy.
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  Speaker 1: This is a man's game for real. You got to
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  Speaker 1: come with it.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and let me
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  Speaker 3: introduce one of the best young corners in the National
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  Speaker 3: Football League. He's now in his third season with the
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  Speaker 3: San Francisco 49ers, having an outstanding season already with three books,
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  Speaker 3: and I know he'll get more this season. Welcome to
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  Speaker 3: the show, Renardo Green. How you feeling, brother?
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling good.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we put a lot of, like, just time
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  Speaker 2: in coming into this year.
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  Speaker 1: Our coaches, they real good coaches. You know, just.
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  Speaker 2: real strategic about how they move and operate.
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  Speaker 1: And, like, a lot of the work we.
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  Speaker 2: Put in is showing from us winning, you know, winning
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  Speaker 2: different ways to, you know, going through things and overcoming
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  Speaker 2: adversity and then just guys just going out there and
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  Speaker 2: stepping up and making plays.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I'm feeling good about this season.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'm going to take you back to last year
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  Speaker 3: because that was one of the pivotal moments in your career.
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  Speaker 3: And I... I honestly don't know what coverage it is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm guessing it was two. Yeah. You know, because it
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  Speaker 3: was a high-low. It looked like they kind of high-lowed you,
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  Speaker 3: and you might have, like, you know, guessed a little low,
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  Speaker 3: and then they went high. But, yeah, I just remember
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  Speaker 3: there being a big moment with you and Kyle Shanahan, and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he having this conversation because Kyle gets super frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: People don't know Kyle, but Kyle was like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I know exactly. I know him well. And... Since that moment,
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  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes when stuff like that happens to a
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  Speaker 3: young player, you could go one of two ways. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, it could fold you up,
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  Speaker 3: and that could be like it, and then you struggle
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  Speaker 3: the rest of your career. Or you could use that,
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  Speaker 3: put it right here, and let it motivate you and
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  Speaker 3: fuel you to be the player that you know you
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  Speaker 3: can be. Talk about that, how that motivated you or
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  Speaker 3: didn't motivate you, and what went into your offseason.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, Like, what really happened in
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  Speaker 2: that situation, it wasn't really like how the media portrayed
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  Speaker 2: it and how things really went down. Because we know
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  Speaker 2: that football is an emotional sport and it's a man's game.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So emotions and tempers be flaring.
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  Speaker 2: It was really about me coming out to get a
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  Speaker 2: coaching point because he don't feel like I hurt the
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  Speaker 2: coaching point when they was yelling to me on the
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  Speaker 2: field about splitting the zone.
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  Speaker 1: You feel me?
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  Speaker 2: We just got a sack. It was, what, second and 20.
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  Speaker 2: Forced him to throw the check now. You feel what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying? And I got greedy. and thinking the ball
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  Speaker 2: was going to go here, and instead of doing what
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  Speaker 2: I was supposed to do, I jumped it to hit
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  Speaker 2: it over the head. It was really me coming out
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  Speaker 2: to get the coaching point and then post to go
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  Speaker 2: back in. But just with tempers flaring and you know
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  Speaker 2: how it be out there, we just start talking and
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  Speaker 2: time going on and games still going on and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Me and him, we talk.
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  Speaker 2: Me and Coach, we have general talks and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We're good with each other. We even talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: And the big thing is you just know he's always
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  Speaker 2: believed in me. You know, ever since he's seen me
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  Speaker 2: in the draft, he's always believed in me. And I've
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  Speaker 2: always believed in myself. So he just felt like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he could have got more out of me on that
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  Speaker 2: specific play. You know, kind of like, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: see how saving be. You know, I see, I see
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  Speaker 2: like saving don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Saving going to get on you.
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  Speaker 3: Right, he don't care what situation, where you at.
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  Speaker 1: He on you.
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  Speaker 2: So he just felt like, you know, he could have
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  Speaker 2: got more out of me out of that play. And
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  Speaker 2: he's just like, you know, just more and more and more. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I got to get better. One percent, you're getting better,
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  Speaker 2: you're getting worse. So, I mean, like, I didn't really
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  Speaker 2: take of it too pivotal or let it affect me
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  Speaker 2: like that because I know really what the relationship is
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  Speaker 2: and how things really work compared to an outside narrative.
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  Speaker 1: But like I told the media before, like, when you
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  Speaker 1: just got, you know, like you know who.
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  Speaker 2: You is, you got your confidence and all that other stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but you got certain people like that that actually see
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  Speaker 2: the same thing you see in yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when I say him, you know, John.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, it just make you be like, you ain't
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  Speaker 2: tripping for working as hard as you work. You ain't
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  Speaker 2: tripping for being so caught up in, you know, your
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  Speaker 2: mindset of how good and great you trying to be.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't tripping, just keep doing it. You feel what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: So like this off season, I was just like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was playing through some things my second year. I
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  Speaker 2: ain't play bad, but I know that I ain't play
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  Speaker 2: how I know what's really inside me. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure that when the time come
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  Speaker 2: around this year, I'm going to capitalize more on my
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  Speaker 2: ops and I'm going to make it known that like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is me and this is who I am.
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  Speaker 1: Like it ain't no if, ands, buts about it. You
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  Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: No question about it. And the next time you're stepping
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  Speaker 3: on the field in Seattle, you're left with two books
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  Speaker 3: in your hand. You're left with two footballs with their
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  Speaker 3: logo on it. So I know that had to feel good.
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  Speaker 3: And those were great plays. Early in the game, the
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  Speaker 3: reigning offensive player of the year, Jackson Smith and Jigba,
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  Speaker 3: runs out. And you know early in the game, you
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  Speaker 3: ain't even really got your feels about you.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't really got your.
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  Speaker 3: And you jumped it. You jumped in so early. I said, ooh,
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  Speaker 3: this boy is in his bag.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me what went into that play because I know
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  Speaker 3: they run quick game out of that, but it takes
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  Speaker 3: something else to really trust yourself and trust what you
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  Speaker 3: saw on film and say, all right, I see it,
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  Speaker 3: I feel it, and I'm going because he don't give
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  Speaker 3: no tails.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, see, and that's what, like, when you guard him,
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  Speaker 2: he moves without indication.
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  Speaker 1: Like, it's really no indication, but Like, just.
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  Speaker 2: Me being older and more experienced, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: they started in a stack, and it was condensed, and
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  Speaker 2: he motioned out in his third down.
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  Speaker 1: You're not running the deep route, especially as the back man.
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  Speaker 2: And then you motion out to this split, and then
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  Speaker 2: when he stemmed, the initial stem, I narrowed it down to, like,
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  Speaker 2: three routes you can run. You're going to give me, like,
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  Speaker 2: a curl, an out, or a dig. If you run
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  Speaker 2: a post, you're just going to have, we're just going
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  Speaker 2: to run, fam. It's third down. We're just going to run.
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  Speaker 2: And when he stemmed it out, and I seen him, like,
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  Speaker 2: I seen him try to hit me with a, a
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  Speaker 2: one-two shimmy because I just stayed square and I didn't open. So, like,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't no clean release to where he could just
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  Speaker 2: run the speed up. I knew it was out at
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  Speaker 2: that point. And I was just like, just run the
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  Speaker 2: route for him and find the ball. That's all I
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  Speaker 2: would think, just find the ball.
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  Speaker 3: If people understood how fast it was moving with your
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  Speaker 3: brain moving and going through all that, that's like a
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  Speaker 3: second and a half. Like, all that happened in your
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  Speaker 3: brain in like a second and a half. I just
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  Speaker 3: need people to understand that.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 3: Everything you're saying right now tells me how great you
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  Speaker 3: can be because for you to understand and digest that
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  Speaker 3: information and see like formations, things are just likes and
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  Speaker 3: him motion out and you're like, all right, it's third
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  Speaker 3: and five. If they run something deep, we going to battle.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the charge. You're going to have
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  Speaker 3: to push me down the field and then I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to figure it out. But still. be aggressive enough to say,
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  Speaker 3: my opp is here, I'm taking advantage, and to catch it.
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  Speaker 3: And then that over route where you undercut it, they're
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  Speaker 3: running with a tight end on you. I know you
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  Speaker 3: felt a little disrespected, but....
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  Speaker 1: I seen it like.
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  Speaker 2: I seen it like I had gave an alert end
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  Speaker 2: call because only one tight end released vertical, and his
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  Speaker 2: initial stamina was like, oh, I know you're running an over, fam. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you give me all the indications.
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  Speaker 1: And then... When he ran.
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  Speaker 2: It, I'm like, if I go be on him right now,
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  Speaker 2: I know Sam not going to throw it.
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  Speaker 1: So let me just sag off a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And then once I seen, like, it looked like it
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  Speaker 2: was open, that's when I really turned it on. And
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  Speaker 2: I just ran the route for him. Like, the man
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  Speaker 2: traveled faster than the ball in that situation. So I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get.
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  Speaker 1: Me another one. I'm just hoping he throw it.
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  Speaker 2: And when I look back and I see that ball
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  Speaker 2: come by his hand, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going.
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  Speaker 1: The other way.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I would think about. I'm like, all right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got him to throw it. Oh, yeah, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: the other way now.
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  Speaker 3: I love this, bro. I love hearing this because you
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  Speaker 3: can tell how slow the game is for you right now.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about that because people don't, you know, it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to talk to people who don't play the game because
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  Speaker 3: you say that. It's just player talking. You'd be like,
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  Speaker 3: the game's slow down. They'd be like, yeah, it's slow
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  Speaker 3: for him. But they don't know what's going on out there. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you seeing it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like when I be out there compared
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  Speaker 2: to my rookie year, I feel like Football is going
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  Speaker 2: to be football, but when you first get to the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: this is the fastest it's going to be, and it's
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  Speaker 2: like the highest of the highest.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of plays I was making was really
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  Speaker 1: off reading and reacting. You feel what I'm saying? And
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  Speaker 1: I had three DCs my first three years. You feel me?
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  Speaker 2: So when you're learning different, like, defensive strategies, you know,
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  Speaker 2: different route concepts, seeing how coaches think, like learning the
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  Speaker 2: game within the game. That's what like, like me and
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  Speaker 2: coach used to talk about the game within the game.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, when you out.
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  Speaker 2: There, it's like everything just, you seeing stuff before it happened.
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  Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I know you're not running this or I,
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  Speaker 2: I know why I started, you know, I was an
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  Speaker 2: off man.
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  Speaker 1: I know why I started at an eight or nine.
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  Speaker 2: Why would I just burst out of my back pedal
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  Speaker 2: and create all that separation and As you running down
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  Speaker 2: the field, I'm breaking down your potential routes at level one,
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  Speaker 2: level two, level three.
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  Speaker 1: As each, as you clear a yard, I'm just breaking
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  Speaker 1: everything down.
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  Speaker 2: Like, guys, like, it just, when you just done played
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  Speaker 2: so much ball, been in so many situations, been around
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  Speaker 2: so many great minds and didn't think about it, I
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  Speaker 2: do play around a whole bunch of, you know, great players.
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  Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying? It's like you just learn
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  Speaker 1: and pick the game up.
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  Speaker 2: And from that point on, it's like, now you just
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  Speaker 2: processing everything and it's just happening just like, just, just, Slow.
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  Speaker 1: Everything just happened in slow.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, your football IQ is up there. I don't even
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  Speaker 3: know if you know that. How you talking is greatness.
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  Speaker 3: When I'm playing a game, that's why that play on
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  Speaker 3: second and 20 or whatever, as you mature as a player,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to look back at that play and be like,
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  Speaker 3: what the hell.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think was going to happen in that situation?
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  Speaker 3: You know? Because all the quarterback did was veteran you.
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  Speaker 3: All he did was vet move you. Hey, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to move this young boy down. And if he bites,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going seven. If he don't bite, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: throw it to that seven. But you just told me,
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  Speaker 3: man travel faster than the ball. So if he throw
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  Speaker 3: it down to the flat, by the time he catch
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  Speaker 3: the football, you at it, you.
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  Speaker 1: On his neck.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tackle. Catch tackle. It's catch tackle. And so that's
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  Speaker 3: always the case when you're in that situation. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to be catch tackle.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: It's always high to low in those situations. Don't let
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  Speaker 3: them get easy stuff. And I'm not trying to coach you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, you know what you know. But
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  Speaker 3: it's just such, it's going to be so matter of fact,
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  Speaker 3: just like everything else. When you're going down the field,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pressing. You outside release, you eliminate.
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  Speaker 1: Ding, ding, ding, ding.
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  Speaker 3: As we go past five, 10, 15, 20 yards. Like
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  Speaker 3: now it's a different play. Now it's not this. It's
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  Speaker 3: not that. It's not that. And so as you continue
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  Speaker 3: to play and you trust yourself, man, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: continue to blossom. It's cool to see. Uh, talk about
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: something that people may not know about Renato Green just
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  Speaker 3: from watching you play.
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  Speaker 1: Um, I like to travel.
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  Speaker 2: I say, I like people may not know.
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  Speaker 1: I like to travel.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big, uh, I'm not the, I'm not the big,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the most outgoing person. I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the most outgoing person. Um, I got my
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  Speaker 2: little select few, my select circle, and I just rock
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  Speaker 2: with them. I don't like too much outside noise or
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: just too much coming my way. You know, I like
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  Speaker 2: more peace. You feel what I'm saying? I'm into cars.
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  Speaker 2: I do like cars.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of got a fetish about cars. Besides from that, though, like,
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  Speaker 2: I really be, like, I'm a chill, like, chill type
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  Speaker 2: of dude, like. Just sit back, relax, enjoy my time
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  Speaker 2: with my ones, and enjoy the fruits of my labor.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really be doing too much. I don't really
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  Speaker 2: like to get in too much.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you come from a part of Florida that put
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  Speaker 3: them out now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You come from a part of Florida that put them out,
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  Speaker 3: and they play some great football. Talk about how that
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  Speaker 3: kind of molded you into the player you are, and
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  Speaker 3: when did you know that you was going to be
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  Speaker 3: elite at corner? Obviously, you stayed home for college, but–
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  Speaker 3: You know, when you're growing up, when you're a great athlete, you,
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  Speaker 3: everybody wants the ball. You want to play receiver, you
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  Speaker 3: want to play running back, quarterback. When did you become
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  Speaker 3: like a true corner?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, so growing up, growing up, football always just came
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  Speaker 2: natural to me.
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  Speaker 1: It was always like breathing.
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  Speaker 2: Like ever since I was five, when I was six
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  Speaker 2: years old, I said, yeah, I'm going to the league fam.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't working for nobody. I ain't trying to do
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  Speaker 2: none of that. I'm going to the league. I made
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  Speaker 2: my mind up. And it was like, but it was
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  Speaker 2: all like, it was easy to do when.
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  Speaker 1: I'm scoring three touchdowns a game. You feel what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: And, You know, I'm going against, like, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: playing dudes that's, like, even from little league to high school, college,
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  Speaker 2: I'm playing dudes that young that's in the league now.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and I've been seeing them. We've been going
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  Speaker 2: at it, having our battles and stuff. So, like, just
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  Speaker 2: growing up down there and, you know, just playing in
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  Speaker 2: that environment, it just, you know, you plan to get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good guys, so you naturally going to
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  Speaker 2: be better. But then I just think that I was
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  Speaker 2: just gifted and blessed because, like, There'll be times where
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  Speaker 2: I'm not on the field. I can't even tell you
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  Speaker 2: how I would do certain things because I was a
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  Speaker 2: running back. Like, I played running back, quarterback, linebacker, safety
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  Speaker 2: with a little bit of corner.
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  Speaker 1: But, dude, man, Pine Hills Trojans, number four.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, man, you go down there and say the name, dude, man,
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  Speaker 2: Pine Hills number four. They're going to tell you just
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  Speaker 2: like that. It's just like football was always just easy
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  Speaker 2: and natural for me. Like, that's just how it was
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  Speaker 2: with me.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, man.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, man, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I just, like, I just, I just, I just
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  Speaker 2: played and things just always went good for me, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I got the, the high school, ain't nothing,
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  Speaker 2: ain't nothing really shift.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I had a cousin, he telling me like, cause.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I'm playing receiver, but I wasn't finna play varsity my, uh, my, uh,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: my first year. I was playing like JV until I
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: got moved up, but he always used to.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Tell me like, bro, stop playing, stop playing. Um, like
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: cousin Kari, like stop playing receiver, bro. He's like, but
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: come over here on the dark side.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: But play corner. I'm telling you, the money at corner, bro.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, but I want to catch touchdowns.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: I want to score. I've always been doing that.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: You feel me?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: He's like, bro, come on, man.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: You done this, too. I'm telling you, this the way
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: it's at. So I'm like, man, I want to play varsity, son.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: It's the end of the year. I get moved up.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to get moved up at receiver. I mean,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: I could have.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: But I was like, man, right now, I got a
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: better chance to get where I want to be at
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: playing defense.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: So I'm playing corner.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: So I just start playing corner from that point on
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: and made that my primary position and just having to
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: work out. Like I just happened to be real good
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: at it. I played it a little league, but not
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: as much. It just, I was just a natural at
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: it basically. And that's how I started playing cornerback.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: You, you, you, you trying to downplay everything, Renato. You
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: trying to, you trying to downplay everything. What it sounds
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: like is the game came easy because you adaptable. Like
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: at every level of play, you figure it out. At
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: every level of play. the game starts to make sense.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: And that's IQ. That's high IQ football. Like, hey, how
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: do I need to adjust in this situation? That's where
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be. What level y'all playing at? That's
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: where I'm going to be. And I'm going to go
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: above that level. And now you're in the league and
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: you done figured out the lay of the land, the
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: receiver concepts. Fred Warner's a great player. Drake Greenlaw's a
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: great player. You've had great safeties. You've played with Raheem Morris.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: You've had great D coordinators, but Raheem Morris is a
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: great D coordinator and he's a DB guy. So I'm
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: sure he's talking the game through to you. It's a
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: simple game. Everybody runs the same stuff. It's a copycat league.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Can you not let fatigue make you a coward out there?
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Can you overcome being tired on the third and sixth
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: that you didn't study on film all day? Can you
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: not be tired and be too tired to put your
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: foot in the ground and go make a play? That's
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: what separates good players from great players and great players
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: from Hall of Famers is fatigue. More times than not,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: circumstance ain't going to dictate whether I'm on it or not. Like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: I could be days with a stinger, my neck hurting.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: All right, it's third and three. We on the logo.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: They in the max protect. All right, it's going to
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: be double dig post. It's like, can I get to
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: that spot? Or can I get everybody else in the spot? Hey, hey,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: you be right there. Be in that dig window. Hey, Earl,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: take the post. I want the ball to come to
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: this dig. I'm going to give him enough space, and
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I'm going to see if I can't get a book
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: out of this.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: When you play in the game at that high of
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: a level, people can't even understand. They think picks is accidents.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: But like you just talked it through. Yeah, fact. On
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: both your picks, neither one of them was accident. Like
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: it's process that goes involved. And even when I do
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: that process again and again, I might do that process
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: 30 times in the game and not get one target.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I might be right 28 of them times and nobody
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: throw it over there.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Crazy, crazy how it work. People don't be knowing they
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: in depth. It's crazy how it work, man.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: It's sick, but the thing that you've got to be
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: careful of is as great as you're going to get,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: and I hope you get 10 this year, eventually the
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: target's going to go down. Yeah. And can you still
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: be great when the only target you get is fourth quarter,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: third and eighth for the game? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: you be great then? Everybody talk about that NFC championship
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: when I tipped the football. Wait, that was my first target.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: For real?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: That was my first target of the game. Like, they're
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: not playing. And the only reason they did it like
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: that was because he was in two minutes and he
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: couldn't have the coach just tell him, don't throw it
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: over there.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, he just did it, yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: He just did it. And by the time he did it,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: the game was over with. It's over with now. Like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: you can't go back. But that's the next level of
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: just being locked in, play after play, and staying involved, bro.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I'm so impressed with how you started this season. It's
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: really cool.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I just been, I just been trying to just dot
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: my I's, cross my T's and leave no stone.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Unturned and not get tired of doing the.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Same thing over and over and over. And like how
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you was, you was saying, you know, but what about
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: when your shoulder hurting this and that and the third,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: and you don't feel like doing this and that it's like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: you know, Kyle talk about that, uh, competitive stamina, that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: competitive stamina.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: He always, always preaching.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: And like how you say like override that mind, like just,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: trying to lock in on those principles and do them daily.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Like consistency is a hard thing to do. It's one
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: of the hardest things to do in life. So it's like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: it's a real grind, but I just be telling myself
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: like day by day, day by day, earn, earn that win,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: earn that, whatever performance you put on, you go for
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: two books, three books, whatever you do, whatever you do,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: earn it throughout the week. Like, don't, you can't cheat
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: this man. You going to have to go through what
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you got to go through to get what you want.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: And it's going to hurt.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But fam, it's worth it. You're doing it for a reason.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: So that's what I just try to lock in with
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: like on a weekly basis.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Bruh, you, you, whoever your mentor is, whoever in your mind,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: even if it's just you, you're doing a heck of
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: a job, brother. That's what your mindset is right. Like it's,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: in love with the process. If you fall in love
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: with the process and you sit there and every day
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: you like, man, I dominated them today, but today I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: working on my press. I'm working on my foot. I'm
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: working on my footwork here. I'm working on my route
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: recognition and walkthroughs. I'm working on identifying plays and walkthroughs
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: and then picking those plays in practice because the same
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: plays you walk through are the same plays they're going
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: to run in practice. One of them periods. Boy, there
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: are boys that have played 10, 15 years in this
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: National Football League that didn't realize that the walkthrough and
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: the practice or a lot of.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: The same place.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, as a box of rocks over here, like,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you're supposed to vote with somebody
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: this long.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, this is one of them you see just shake
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: your head.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You can't. I can't even explain this.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I did. Hey, well, I just look over there. I'm like, hey, man.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: But you are totally right when you say you earned
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: the right. Like, when you get picks in a game, like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't earn this. I didn't saw myself doing this.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I've done it in practice time and time again. And
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: consistency and greatness, it's a boring trait. Like, when you're
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: doing it right, it's going to be a boring game.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: But can you not get bored? Can you remember that
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: this was the dream all along? Can you remember all
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: those moments that, hey, as a kid, this is all
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I wanted. Can I continue to challenge myself, play in,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: play out, when they're not challenging me?
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, facts.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: When they didn't decide to take the second and third
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: receiver and just put them over here to go to
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: sleep for the rest of the game because they don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: want to put their number one over here. They just
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: want to I want to stay over there. I didn't
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: have games where they're like, why you don't follow? Well,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: because we didn't lean everybody to that side, and I'm
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: one-on-one backside with whoever they put over here, and they
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: just decide not to look over here. Yeah, right.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: It's like, what you want me to do?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: What you want me to do? Right. But talk about
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Raheem Morris and how different it's been, because I've heard
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Jair talk about it, Malik talk about it. I've heard
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Siegel talk about it. Talk about how different this defense
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: is compared to last year.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: It's not so much of a three-match where we're relying
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: heavily on certain guys to be in windows and the
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: corners can be softer.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I got confidence in my guys.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I got confidence from the front seven to the back end.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I got confidence in my guys.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: To go win and go be playmakers and go make plays.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: He teaches....
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: He teaches just the game of football in a player's perspective,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: but he can also do it in a coach's.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of coaches can just do X's and O's.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: He can do X's and O's, but then break it
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: down as if we out there on the field and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: he's like, you with somebody you training with and he
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: playing the league too, like your homeboy or something, you
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: playing the league and y'all just going through saying, y'all
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: put that hand here or step with this foot and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: this and that. It's like he's able to break the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: game down like that. That's one thing that I find very,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: very helpful. Because he'll tell you something like, I'm not
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: expecting you to make this play. If you make it,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it's so good. If you make it, do this and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: that in the third, hey, it's great. But I want
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you to make this play. I want you to make this.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Or he'll be like, yeah, if this happens, Don't even
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: turn that way. Just kick 180. He gets on a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: double move.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: It's cool. Kick 180. Let's go play ball down the field.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: That's all we finna do.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: He catch this, force him to catch this one hand,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: back shoulder, like that, force.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Him to do it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: He catch this, man, dap him up, give him a
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: high five and tell him go catch it again. Like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: he breaks the game down, like, in a realistic way. Like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: he don't put unrealistic expectations on you that you can't
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: do or that doesn't make sense. Like, Basically, everything he
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: basically ever told me, all the little tips and nuances,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: every one of them made sense, everything that he's told
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: me since he's been there.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: That's really cool. Even the play with Arroyo that you
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: was talking about that you picked, like, you could have
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: said in and in and left it. Yeah, fact. Like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: you chose to squeeze. You said, hey, I got no
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: other threats. I ain't got nothing else to do. Let
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: me go ahead and dance with.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Him a little bit. Let me get me.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Let me get me. And that's much different. And that's
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: a choice that you made and that's coaching by him
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and everything coming together in the right way where like
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: last year, if you let that go, that's a completion.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And nobody's dropped in that zone. They got sucked up
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: by the run fake.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Facts. Facts. See?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You know, man, he, the man's like, he's a, he's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a great help. Like I give him that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Like when he came here and we just start talking
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, like I could just tell that
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: he knew ball, but it's him. And it's like Jerry,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you know, like Jerry know his ball too. Like he'll
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: tell us like, I'm telling you, when I was there,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers, he told me he reads
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: this with the safeties.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You know, do this. This will make him not throw this.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: They gonna run this. Or Jerry be like, he be
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: saying stuff like this.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: They paying this receiver 40 million.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Do you think they put him at number two to block? Hey, like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: but hey, that's the game though.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: That's the game.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: That's the game.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: It's common sense, but sometimes it ain't so common.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So just having them, like, just talk to us and
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: break the game down.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: He say open book test, NFL open book test.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like, just having them to break the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: game down even more and give us little tips and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: nuances how they do.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Like, they've been a very big help. It's like they help.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: They help.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Expand our knowledge within the game, within the game. Like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: we know X's and O's. I know what gap's supposed
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: to be this. I know what the stud fit is.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I know what the rotation, the read of Linda, the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: boundary of the week.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Like, I know all of that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But when you can really break it down to where
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a player's talking about the game within the game, and that's, like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: how they coach us, it just makes it that much easier.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It makes everybody be on one accord.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And then how guys making plays and the reason why
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: we got a record that we got right now going
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: into the bye week.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: In a hundred years, whenever I get into coaching, I
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: can't wait to help people play the go ball better.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you watch guys and
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: you're like, bro, y'all faster than me, more athletic, all
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: this other stuff. But like, I feel like I played
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: the go ball about as good as anybody. And I
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: feel like sometimes guys want to make it a foot
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: race every time. It's not a positioning thing. And I
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: feel like shoulder in front of they shoulder, like ride
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: that red line that you see in practice, knock them
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: off that red line and get on it yourself. I
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: caught 41 books in my career, and I'd say 30
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: of them was nine balls.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: It's crazy because I done seen a few of your highlights,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, are you pressing everybody?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I'm pressing everybody.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he's pressing everybody, and I'm just looking. I'm like, well, one.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Thing about him, he getting that head around, and the
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: thing is, he getting that head around, and he catching
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: back shoulder, like back shoulder books. People don't know how
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: hard that is. I'm like, he catching back shoulders. You
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: may have a step on him. But, man, looking back
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and going up and grabbing the ball like that, I
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: say that's one thing. I say that's how he catches
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: on him. He getting that head around. Like, that's one
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: thing about Stern. Stern going to find that ball.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I'm going to find that rock. And the thing about...
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: back shoulder is it was like always like footwork position.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Like once you get to a certain point and I
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: get my head around, if I'm where I need to be,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I feel like I can give you like a half
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: a body and still go vertical and get to the ball.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: So I would, I would, I would damn near be
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: half a body, but like, like, I mean, I'm feeling
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: for you. I'm feeling for you. I didn't know where
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you're at. And if ball came, then it's almost like
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I'm in a post with him and I'm just shoulder around.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: And it ain't nothing they can do about it. Like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: if I see him throw it and you see him
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: throw it, like, I'm in front of you. Facts, though.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Facts.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: You know, but we talking too much ball. We can
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: talk all day. I love your mind, man.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, I love it, bro. Like, I grew up
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: playing it. It's what I do. It's what I know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: It interests me. I actually got a love.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: For the game.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And I don't talk ball with a lot of people because, like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: When I be hearing people say stuff like, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I could be wherever I'm from or around the area,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and I be hearing dudes say, I don't see how
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the corner, you know, let the guy get behind him.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Everybody know the best corners. They let the ball get
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: caught in front of them, and they just make tackles.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I be like, when I be hearing, I say, this
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: my own talk to everybody about balls. Hey, guys be
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: thinking they can do this. I done heard guys compare
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: theyself to Wes Walker and stuff.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, see. Oh, my God.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, this is why I don't be talking to everybody, fam.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I can only talk ball with certain people. So, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: don't talk like that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So, if I them talk a ball with somebody, because
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I know they know ball.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Man. Hey, somebody, they talk about the best scorers just
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: letting them catch it and come up and talk. I'm
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: ending the conversation right there. Hey, brother, you go have
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: a beautiful day.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I got to go. I got to go, fam.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I got to go. All right. All right. I don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: even know what you're talking about. But I'm not going
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to hold you much longer. My last question, what was
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: your welcome to the league moment?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Crazy as it was, it was my rookie year. It
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't even on offense. It wasn't even on defense. It
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: was special teams.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Special teams get real now.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. So, I mean, I didn't
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: know that. Like, man, I remember because I was at
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the Gunna.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: We played the Jets my rookie year, first game.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I go down there, I make the tackle, boom. I'm like,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, this kind of sweet. This down to third.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ain't nothing too crazy out here. We don't
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: like game. We go to game like four. We go
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to game four. I do it this time, but the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: returner put a move on me. And he put a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: move on me, and I dove, and I messed my
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: shoulder up. But I'm like, I'm on the sideline like this.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I'm only playing special teams.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'm on the sideline. I'm like this. I'm like, I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: ain't going to lie. Something wrong with my shoulder. But
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to play. Maybe it's just going to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: go away.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, I go to guard the gun and I'm on
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: punt return because I was that too.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Man, I get an outside release.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: He hit, he swiped my arm and my shoulder started hurting.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't, I'm like, hey, but I'm finna
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: keep playing though. But I'm like, he got me.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm running. I'm like, I can't block. I'm finna
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: go second level, find somebody else.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: As soon as the returner tried to catch it, My
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: man that I got beat, he blasted the returner. The
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: ball go flying in the air. I'm like, I already
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: know they finna say I didn't do my job. That's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: on Renato. He ain't do what he supposed to.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm running.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And it's a pile already on the ground. And I
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: ain't know them piles getting like, man, welcome to the NFL, man.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the NFL.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Instead of getting in there and scrapping, I just put
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: my hand, you know, on the pile.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm just trying to look around.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, I never figured he was number zero, but he
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: played like linebacker or something. He came down, but full speed,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: put his helmet right, like smashed my hand, broke my
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: finger down, like twisted and shifted. I wasn't even looking
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: for the ball no more. I done took a knee.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I done took a knee.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm like this on the ground. I done got up.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: They still squirming for the ball. I done walked the
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: other way. I'm like, bro, I think my fingers broke.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I say, bro, this NFL, it's real like him, boy.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: A special team might be the realest place. Look, some
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: of these dudes only play seven, eight snaps a game.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: That snap they out there, they don't go. And if
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: the ball on the ground.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, it falls to the wall, boy.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: It's everything.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: You better put your hard hat on, boy. That's when
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I say, oh, yeah, I got to come right. This
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: is how I'm thinking. It's like, I don't play defense
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and dime package and sub in a little bit and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, but I'm thinking, like, I've been playing
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: special teams. I'm like, boo, if this is like this,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and I go out here and play a full game,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I got to get my mind right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Because if this is like this, then, hey, boy, that's
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, NFL, real, boy. This is a man's
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: game for real. You better come with it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Grown man game. Grown man game. Do you got any
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: questions for me? I want to leave it open to
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: answer any questions you got before I let you get
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: out of here.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: What would you say.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: what would you say was the biggest lesson you learned
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: playing it, like playing in the league, but that wasn't
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: football related. That just came with you being sure. Like
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: that just, that, that, that just came with your success. Like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: what would you say the biggest lesson, you know, you
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: learn just in life, like in, in life?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: That's a great question. Um, like, it was something you
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: said earlier, just being consistent and not just consistent in football,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: but in every, every aspect of your life, like consistent
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: off the field, like understanding like where you put your
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: money consistent with that same effort, same attention to detail
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: that you spend playing corner. You got to be with
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: your money and you got to be with your assets,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: your home, your cars, you know what I mean? Know
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: what's going on that way with your daughter, your kids,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: you know, and you got to just stay consistent. keep
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: the main thing the main thing at all times. And
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: the people around you, you got to try to appreciate
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: them while you're playing, especially the people that are around
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: like your family.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: You know? And I think we get so locked in,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: rightfully so, on this game and what we got to do,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: but you got to keep that in line as well.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Everything got to flow the
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: way it's supposed to, and then your game is going
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: to keep flowing the way it's supposed to.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I think that was the biggest thing I learned over time.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: And that was through a lot of mistakes and not
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: keeping things.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: In line the way it's supposed to.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And when it's in line,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: then ball's in line, then my mind's in line. And
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I'm playing at a really high level.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: All right. All right. Appreciate that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: All love.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: That was a great question. That was a great question.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: And when you get neat, go ahead.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, you can finish. I was
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: just going to add one more thing.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: No, when you get in these big games, you've played
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: in a lot of big games, it's the same old thing. Like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: think of the chess match that you've been playing, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: it's a higher level. Like, almost to the point you're
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: game planning yourself. Like, all right, I jumped him in
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: the first quarter on that hitch, it's hitch and go time.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Like, next time I'm gonna.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Hitch, like, you might, I might, I'm gonna be tight
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: on the hitch, but I'm gonna be, like, I'm not
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: gonna be driving through the ball, I'm gonna be driving
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: to the ball. Like, it's gonna be like, I gotta
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: see it. I gotta see you full hitch. And, You know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: if you put something, you book that over route, watch
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: him until he's across the field, until he gets it
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: out of the hash. Keep your eye on him, because
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: if you turn your head and he... I'm telling you.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Race return?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Look, that return, you know. Boy, be running, be like, oh, bro. Oh, hey, what?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Hey, people don't know Ball. They on the TV. He suck.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You know how I be, man. You know how I be.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Way up.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: The other thing I wanted to ask, I find that
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: interview so funny, but it's real. You know the interview
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about. You know it's what I'm talking about.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, but I done seen that. I done came
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: across that video a few times. I'm like, but it's, man, funny.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: But I feel him, though, because I can't even go
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: against it.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Like, that's real, though.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I just like, well, like, I want to know what
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: had happened.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Like, he was being like a little alien, just saying
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: anything and everything.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: You talking about Crabbe? Nah, nah, nah, nah.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: You talking about Skip?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I think him. I think him.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: So, Skip had basically... That year, I think that's my
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: second year in the league.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I end the year, I'm first team all pro. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: got eight books on the year. I didn't gave up.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I'm 46% completion percentage. Like, I'm strapping. I got like
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: 28 PBUs. Yeah, you're going ham. I'm like that. This year, too.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going ham.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going crazy. Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: And.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: He talking about Revis, rightfully so. Revis been good for
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: a long time. And he's like, he ain't even in
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: the same universe as Revis. He's nowhere near. He's basically
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: a bum. I said, now look, hey, like you can say,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: you can feel he better. You can feel I'm better.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Everybody got their opinions.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: He can say whatever he want because he out there
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: putting it on tape.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Respect.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: But I ain't about to just let you keep talking
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: crazy about me when I don't think you've accomplished anything
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: in this world.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I'm in the second year in the league. I'm a
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: first team all pro. Just damn near led the league
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: in interceptions. I was one off because they got nine
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: and they got their ninth in the last game and
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I freaking, I had my ninth in my hands and
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: then safeties and the other corner ran into me. It's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: crazy play. But, oh, it pissed me off so bad.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I had the ninth. I was like, led the league.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Ball out. But, boy, I had to tell him because
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I'm not feeling good, I'm sick, but
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I'm tired of you talking crazy on my name and
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not about to accept this anymore. Like, I'm like that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like that. And I tell it to anybody's face,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I tell you to watch the tape because my tape
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: will tell you bigger than I can tell you, but
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I'm better at life than you in every which way
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: you can count it. Like, you talking about ball, you
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: talking about education, you talking about, I'm better. And I've
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: only been here 24 years.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I feel, you know, I'm like, hey, he said some
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: real stuff, dog. I can't even, like, because I know
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: some people, man, I'm like, but, hey, forget all that, man. Hey,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: he's speaking some real stuff, dog. Just listen to him, dog.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Just listen. Keep balling. Keep balling, brother. Keep growing. Keep elevating, brother.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: You on the right track. You got a good head
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: on your shoulders. You got a fantastic game. Big fan
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: of your game. And if you ever need anything from me,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: don't hesitate to reach out.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I bet I got you. I appreciate it. I appreciate
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you having me on here, too.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Appreciate you coming on. We'll have you when
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: you get your 10th.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I bet that.