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- 0:00Nick, I've already done this whole podcast. I went back into the pot.
- 0:04Yeah, held came back. We're doing it all. Joe's the time
- 0:09traveler, so that's nice. That's nice. Welcome to many of the review
- 0:21be with you with Nick and Joe. I'm Joe, I'm Nick, and
- 0:27today we are continuing our dive into time travel movies, the time Travel Draft.
- 0:33This is a time travel draft podcast. Now we're continuing that with About
- 0:38Time. This is Nick's pick for I believe it was for the romantic time
- 0:44travel category, right, correct? Cool? Nick, I hate you for
- 0:49picking this movie. I love this movie, but with that I will ask
- 0:53you, why did you pick this movie? This is probably the saddest,
- 1:03one of the saddest movies you'll ever watch, but it's also one of the
- 1:07best movies you'll ever watch. And from a time travel perspective, it's glorious.
- 1:14There are flaws which we will talk about, but it is just it's
- 1:23it's really it's just fun because it's like it's it's it's it's like a romantic
- 1:29comedy, but it's also like a time travel movie and it's got a little
- 1:34bit of drama in it, and like, yeah, it's it's honestly like
- 1:41one of like the I really enjoy it, so I had to pick it
- 1:45for time travel romance category, even though it does come with some water works
- 1:52so forewarning. Yeah, no, it really does. I I'm glad that
- 2:00this movie was in our Time Terrible Movie draft, even if it is not
- 2:04on my team of time travel movies. It really is. It's got a
- 2:08special place in my heart. It is. It's it's weird because like I
- 2:13think you can probably get through two thirds, if not seventy five percent of
- 2:16this movie without like any tears, and then just like the last like fifteen
- 2:23to twenty minutes is just yeah, pull your heart string after heart string.
- 2:29Yeah it is. But like you said, it was a sad movie,
- 2:34and I agree, Like there is sadness in this movie, but it's kind
- 2:37of like it's kind of beautifully sad, right, like in a really like
- 2:40optimistic way, right, Yeah. I it's definitely not like ah and then
- 2:47you're full of melancholy and dread at the end, Like, nah, it's
- 2:53sad, but like it's what is Ron say in a Prisoner of Azkaban is
- 2:57like you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna so you're gonna be happy,
- 3:00happy about it. Yeah, that's what it is. This movie is a
- 3:08theatrical representation of the grim look that we circled back to our last movie time.
- 3:23That was perfect. I didn't even have to go into my closet and
- 3:28I go back in time to rehearse that we just did that. That was
- 3:31We're just right in sync. Look at that, look at us fantastic.
- 3:38Anyway, Joe, you're stalling. You have to review this. You have
- 3:39to give us a fifteen second summary of this movie, so very please,
- 3:46please explain for anyone who does not for those of you who don't know Joe
- 3:51and I. Every time we review a film, we alternate on who has
- 3:54to give a fifteen second summary of that film, And it is now Joe's
- 3:58turn to give us a fifteen second summary of this film called About Time.
- 4:03Joe, I'm gonna countdown when I say go. You begin three two one
- 4:09go. A man finds out after his twenty first birthday that the men in
- 4:12his family can travel back in time. He uses this to improve his life
- 4:15and try to find love, but quickly finds out that there are some things
- 4:17in life that time travel can't fix, and he goes on a journey about
- 4:20life to become a respectful man. Done. Wow, right before fifteen seconds?
- 4:28You were cheating. You were reading from something I saw you reading?
- 4:31Or were you? Is that the summary from Wikipedia? You son of a
- 4:34bitch. You're not allowed to use Wikipedia here. I actually I actually practiced
- 4:42that one. I actually practiced that one. I'm so pissed off at Joe.
- 4:47No one said you couldn't rehearse it. Yeah, you're right, that's
- 4:50true. That's true, that, Joe, that might be the best summary
- 4:54that any of either of us has given on this episod, this podcast in
- 4:58two years. That is the best summary. I don't think I've ever feel
- 5:02the best one you've done. The best one I did, I believe was
- 5:05Dungeons and Dragons was like a fantastic summary. That was my best one.
- 5:09I believe it was the same ending too, like you got to the ending
- 5:13or yeah, you finished before the time, right, yeah. Yeah.
- 5:17So if you can do that, then I think like you've succeeded. Right.
- 5:21That was incredible, Okay you uh yeah, that's an A plus.
- 5:26I mean that's the first A plus you've ever given me. Let's go,
- 5:30let's go. Hey, oh, let's go, let's go. No,
- 5:36no, no, it does help when you read the movie. Thank you.
- 5:43I'm impressed. I'm impressed. Man. This is so this is uh
- 5:49the difference here between the last movie we reviewed in our time travel draft Harry
- 5:54Potter is like Harry Potter is you know, it's two and a half hour
- 5:57movie, and time travel only happens basically in the last forty five minutes.
- 6:00This is a time travel film. This film called about time is time travel's
- 6:05happening the whole time, so whole time. Yeah, we can obviously we're
- 6:13gonna focus more on the time travel aspect of it, but I guess we
- 6:15can kind of give some overall thoughts. Whatever you want to start with,
- 6:17take it away. Yeah, first first thought, uh forgot Margot Robbie was
- 6:24in this movie. This this is the Margot Robbie movie that no one has
- 6:29seen. Yes, that is correct. I like when she showed up as
- 6:33Charlotte, I was I was like genuinely like, oh my god, yeah,
- 6:38because yeah, I remember Rachel McAdams right, but like right, of
- 6:41course, aside from Bill Nye, I thought I didn't know any of the
- 6:46other actors, and then like all of a sudden here comes to Margot Robbie
- 6:50and playing a pretty minor character in this movie. Sorry, I just kind
- 6:54of like, get that out there. I was genuinely, like very surprised
- 6:56to see her. I have that notewritten done as well. You just got
- 6:59it before you got before me. Son of them, Nick, I've already
- 7:03done this whole podcast. I went back into the plot. Yeah, held
- 7:10came back and redoing it all. Joseph time Traveler. So that's nice.
- 7:14That's nice. No, So I I just in overall in the plot of
- 7:21this movie. I think it's a really sweet idea. I like the Okay,
- 7:28So basically Bill Nye, who plays the dad in this movie, has
- 7:30a conversation explaining like how time travel in their family works, and his son,
- 7:36who's in denial about it, eventually asks like, well what about the
- 7:39butterfly effect? And I think like what he says kind of like perfectly encapsulates
- 7:44like the rest of the movie. He's like, well, you know,
- 7:49we haven't brought down the end of society yet, so it seems to be
- 7:51working out pretty well so far. Right, Like, I think like that
- 7:57idea of what if you could time travel, but like it doesn't bring on
- 8:01a dystopian like apocalypse. Like we've all kind of like had that thought,
- 8:05right, Like can I undo this? What would it be like? This
- 8:09is that thought? This movie? Is that thought right? Right? With
- 8:13some rules and some caveats, Yes, that I think work. I mean,
- 8:20if you're gonna but you can't like get too deep on the science details
- 8:26or you'll be it'll ruin the movie for you. Does that make sense?
- 8:30Like you have to kind of just yeah, it's a romantic comedy time travel
- 8:33film. Like it's supposed to be fun but also make you feel something,
- 8:39and one of those things is you're not supposed to take everything too seriously.
- 8:46No. One hundred agree with this. We are going to talk about the
- 8:48time travel in this movie because we are grading a time travel mechanic against other
- 8:54time travel movies, right, And I think that, like you said,
- 8:58there are some problems with this mechanism of time travel, but I don't think
- 9:05that that hurts the plot of this movie at all. I think the plot
- 9:09of this movie is pretty solid all the way through. It's a beautiful film.
- 9:13Honestly, the mechanism for time travel is honestly like the least important thing
- 9:18in this movie at least that's how I felt. I don't know about you.
- 9:22Yeah, the time travel mechanism, like how you actually time travel is.
- 9:26It's just a basic thing, you know, Like it's right. They
- 9:30kept it very simple, very simple. You go in a dark room,
- 9:33you clench your fists, you think about where you want to go, and
- 9:35then you're there. It's okay, sure, it very careful with the wording
- 9:41on it too, right. It has to be in your lifetime. It
- 9:45has to be something that you remember, so you can't accidentally send yourself to
- 9:48like your mother's womb or something. It has to be the only places you've
- 9:54been and can't remember. You can't go to the future, but you can't
- 10:00and come back to the present. So like you can go to the past
- 10:01and then you can do whatever you wanted to change, and then you can
- 10:03go right back to your future, so you don't have to relive the actual
- 10:07time, the whole timeline if you don't want to. Where do we start.
- 10:13Let's let's just get into the pro tag whose name I am blinking on
- 10:18right now? Oh my god, what is what is his main character's name?
- 10:22Help me out here, MC's name. It's not Tim, right,
- 10:26it's not Timothy, not Tim him Tim. It's not Tim. It's not
- 10:31Tim. I don't know why I want him to be Tim. Hold On,
- 10:35I got it up. I just watched this today. It is Tim.
- 10:43Oh, it is Tim Tim What I got myself? Oh my god,
- 10:50I just realized that Joanna is Vanessa Kirby. Holy shit. Yeah,
- 10:54there's actually like I was like, who is this? Why does she look
- 10:58so familiar? Then I to Kirby? Holy ship. Hilarious. Also Bill
- 11:03Nye still, what a perfect casting for a father figure of Also yeah,
- 11:13since I segued casting. Sure Richard Griffiths, Yes, the guy who plays
- 11:20Uncle Vernon and Harry Potter. This was his character here. This was the
- 11:24last film I ever made. No, I didn't know that. He died
- 11:28like six months after, I think, is what I read. No Sunday
- 11:33Super said, yeah crazy we ever did? Was it was about time?
- 11:39I mean, hey, he had a he had a really fun minor super
- 11:43fun. Yeah, this was a great movie. What a great like way
- 11:48to go out. Good note, I didn't know that. Yeah, I
- 11:52did recognize him when he popped in, because other than Harry Potter, I
- 11:56don't really know him from anything. And yeah, when when he showed up.
- 12:01It was like, oh, shoot, you know, no post on
- 12:03Sunday. This is wonderful. But AnyWho, let's talk about Tim, because
- 12:13you know, the majority of this movie, if not all, all of
- 12:18it centers around Tim's perspective of the world and Tim. Tim basically starts out
- 12:26as he's he's a bit of a loser. In fact, his dad is
- 12:28his dad loves the hell out of him. But his dad, he seems
- 12:31to be aware of this. And after New Year's party and after Tim has
- 12:37turned twenty one, Bill NYI, his dad, you know, tells him
- 12:41that, you know, the men in their family can travel back in time,
- 12:43and he explains how that they're able to do that, which kind of
- 12:46sends Tim down this rabbit hole of how to use time travel to to try
- 12:52and better his life. And I think they use the mechanism really poignantly throughout
- 13:01most of the film. I really love that first summer that he's trying to
- 13:05make Margot Robbie fall in love with him and he can't do it and comes
- 13:09to the realization that even if you have the power of time like, you
- 13:13can't make someone fall in love with you. Right, Yeah. I love
- 13:18how hypocritical her character comes off throughout the entire movie yeah a hundred, which
- 13:24I don't really think that that makes her a bad person. I just I
- 13:26don't know. I think that speaks to like how complex people can be,
- 13:30ye yeah, or like also like how much people will avoid giving someone the
- 13:39truth to their face and would rather figure out a way to let them down
- 13:43easier instead. Right, because in this case, like the both times when
- 13:50it's the end of the summer and he goes to her room to try to
- 13:54like court her, and she goes, Oh, if only you had told
- 13:56me at the beginning of the summer, we could have had the whole time.
- 14:00And then he goes back in time to the beginning of the summer and
- 14:03she goes, you should come on the last night. It'll be fun.
- 14:07You know. It's like total opposite you know reactions and both trying to let
- 14:15him down easy in a way, right, And that's when he has the
- 14:18realization of it doesn't matter how much time you have, you can't make someone
- 14:20love you, basically. But then he kind of we revisit that right like
- 14:24after he's he's fall in love with Rachel McAdams about like maybe a third in
- 14:30the way of the movie were reintroduced to Charlotte Marta Robbie, and she seems
- 14:35to be like all about Tim all of a sudden, right, and the
- 14:39timing of it just doesn't work for Tim because you know, his heart belongs
- 14:43to Mary Rachel mcgaigm's character. Which yeah, again, like I really liked
- 14:50how poignant this was. You know, because even if even if time travel
- 14:56like is you know in your favor, if you can go back act,
- 15:01you know, there still is the question of morals, right, And I
- 15:03think like even though Tim, Tim can make an utter fool of himself all
- 15:09the time, which just, oh my god, so relatable, especially the
- 15:11gay conversation that he has at one point with Charlotte. God, that is
- 15:18so rough. He's not a bad person, right, and even even though
- 15:24he could a rage Oh yeah, we'll go back to the gay conversation if
- 15:26a lot. But like I just want to say, he you know,
- 15:31even with the power of time, he could have an affair with Charlotte and
- 15:37erase it so it's as if it never happened but he experienced it, right,
- 15:41But like he can't do that because of his morals. I don't know.
- 15:46I really liked that. I thought that made him a very strong character,
- 15:50right, yeah, well it it also it would have ruined the movie
- 15:54if he did, because from the beginning, like when he has that first
- 15:58conversation with his father about being able to time travel, he asks his dad,
- 16:03like, you know, they had this conversation about why why didn't why
- 16:07didn't you want to be rich or do this or like you could have done
- 16:10anything, like what did you want to do or whatever? And he's like,
- 16:11well, I spent most of my time reading, you know, and
- 16:14like and he and he's he essentially, And then his dad asked him,
- 16:18He's like, well, do you want to figure out like the meaning to
- 16:21all this yourself or do you want me to just tell you you know,
- 16:23like and you know, like the he tells him essentially, and that it's
- 16:30really just about people and the people in your life and like, you know,
- 16:33finding love and all of that. And so that's kind of where Tim's
- 16:37pursuit from the beginning of the movie is all about, right, It's about
- 16:40finding the one basically, And so if you would have taken the opportunity halfway
- 16:45through the film to like use time to his advantage and sleep with the girl
- 16:48that he couldn't get back in the day, like it would have just ruined
- 16:53the arc of the character anyway, So it was nice that they like dangled
- 16:56it and then brought his you know, kept his morals like in check.
- 17:04Yeah, you know, I feel like this movie may maybe I'm wrong here.
- 17:11I would love to like have a debate about this. So, Like,
- 17:15you know, when when you have a story, you can either have
- 17:17a very plot motivated story, you can have a very character motivated story.
- 17:21And in this movie, even though like it really centers around an ensemble of
- 17:26characters right through the perspective of Tim, it feels very plot motivated, right
- 17:33like, because like as far as Tim's like actual like growth goes, I
- 17:40don't know if I could say that there's like an upward arc to it,
- 17:45right Like. I mean, I guess he gained some confidence throughout the film.
- 17:51Yeah, but I don't know what else do you think he gains,
- 17:52like as a character. Maybe an appreciation perspective for sure. I Mean,
- 17:57he's especially towards that part of the film where his dad gives him the advice
- 18:03to live every day a second time, right where you essentially you go through
- 18:08the day like for the first time with all of its like hardship and annoyances
- 18:14and all the things that are rough and all that, and then you do
- 18:15the day over and you appreciate all the things that you were annoyed about.
- 18:19It's very awesome perspective. Like the film is like this oozing with perspective on
- 18:26like how to treat your daily life like it's really awesome. And I think
- 18:30that's what he learns. He gains perspective and appreciation for the moments and to
- 18:34appreciate being in the moment and then also not having to go relive it or
- 18:38change every little thing that you didn't like, because life is about those things
- 18:41that you can't change, basically. And then his character does grow because he
- 18:45ends up saying later that he really doesn't travel back in time very much anymore.
- 18:49And I think one of the only things keeping him keeping him traveling was
- 18:53being able to go talk to his father. And then this is when we
- 18:59get one of the additional rules later on in the film. This is where
- 19:02there's maybe slight of the slight issue with the film is that it kind of
- 19:06is introducing us to time travel rules throughout it, without that we're not getting
- 19:10the full scope of the time travel mechanic. From the beginning. We're finding
- 19:14out the rules as we go, and one of those is like, you
- 19:18can only travel back as far as your last kid. Well, you can
- 19:25go further, but he could come back, you might have a different kid
- 19:26because the spring might be different and all that. So you'd have to live
- 19:30with the knowledge that you erased like a different person, right right, there's
- 19:36a different yeah, which happens in the film at one point, and then
- 19:38he has to go back and change that to which you know, so real
- 19:45quick on this. So this is my number one gripe with this movie.
- 19:52Bill Ny is such a loving father throughout this entire experience, and he comes
- 19:57off as so wise throughout this entire movie, and he explains, you know,
- 20:02nearly all the rules in the beginning of the story. This feels like
- 20:07the most important rule that would have come up during the butterfly effect conversation,
- 20:12and he just neglects it for traumatic reasons later in the movie. What Yeah.
- 20:21The only reason that I can think of to why he didn't tell Tim
- 20:26his son, this really important rule when he turned twenty one is because he
- 20:33didn't want it to keep Tim from having kids. Because if you think about
- 20:40it, if you tell a twenty one year old who just found out he
- 20:42can time travel, but if he has kids, it'll change the kid that
- 20:48he has. Maybe it makes the twenty roun year old think he doesn't want
- 20:52kids, and maybe that changes the trajectory of his life. So and if
- 20:56you're a selfish grandfather, maybe you want grandkids and you want to not have
- 20:59to worry about that particular rule. And in the moment, it didn't matter
- 21:03to Tim because he didn't have kids yet, so he was maybe holding back
- 21:06that information until it was relevant. However, once you have the kid,
- 21:10it's relevant, So maybe tell him, like, hey, be careful what
- 21:14you do from now on. Yeah, no, I actually really like that
- 21:18logic because yeah, like Tim even says, at one point, you don't
- 21:23realize how much your world changes until you have a child, which is of
- 21:27course something that many of us have heard, if not experienced. And yeah,
- 21:33it would be kind of great to like hear Bill NII like come in
- 21:37after like this realization happens and say like, yeah, I couldn't tell you
- 21:41that before because you didn't you wouldn't have understood the weight of that rule until
- 21:47after your parent. So yeah, like I like the logic that you just
- 21:52gave. I think that really works. It's too bad it wasn't in the
- 21:55movie. It's definitely a problem with the time travel mechanic. I'm just thinking
- 22:03outside the box. I mean, like, I like the the limitation on
- 22:07it, right, I think it's a really good limitation, but it's it's
- 22:12just it's purposely held back for dramatic reasons. Right, It's like, come
- 22:18on, Like Bill Nye's character is clearly very intelligent. Yeah, their relationship
- 22:25is so good, like the string on screen chemistry between Dom Hall Gleason and
- 22:30Bill ny is fantastic. And Rachel McAdams, I mean, this is another
- 22:34like Rachel McAdams had an amazing run of like rom comms that she was in
- 22:38and like the mid two thousands, like Unreal and there this film also directed
- 22:47what was the other one that he directed? The director of this film also
- 22:49directed a couple other rom coms. Famously, No, I having to look
- 22:56it up again because I forgot that's the top of my head. Oh Love
- 22:57Actually, Love Actually, thank you? Yeah. Yeah. Richard Curtis did
- 23:02Love Actually and Nodding Hill four Weddings in a Funeral. He wrote Yesterday or
- 23:07directed Yesterday, the movie about the Beatles music. Yeah, he's like got
- 23:12a really awesome U really awesome little catalog here and a lot of you know,
- 23:18really he's just known for these kind of films, I guess. But
- 23:21yeah, so like that that was kind of cool because, like Tim,
- 23:25like the reason that Notting Hill thing was shocking to music is like Tim,
- 23:27Tim's character in About Time kind of feels a lot a lot like the main
- 23:33character in Nodding Hill, which I don't know if you I don't know if
- 23:36you've ever seen Nodding Hill or not, but if you haven't, actually I
- 23:37think you enjoy you would enjoy that film. I think it's really good.
- 23:41But Hugh Grant, young, Hugh Grant, Julie Roberts, oh wow,
- 23:45in those films, Yeah, definitely worth watching anyway. You know what's really
- 23:51interesting about this movie is, you know, like like we said before,
- 23:55and I think this is one of the reasons why I was able to do
- 23:56well in my summary, there's not a lot of conflict in this movie,
- 24:02you know, like like there's certainly frustrations, and the movie starts out as
- 24:06if it's gonna be like like a classic romantic comedy of like boy meets girl,
- 24:11boy loses girl, boy gets girl again, right, but like we
- 24:15we go through that formula very quickly, and then the rest of the movie
- 24:19could It's almost like as if like this movie asks the question of what happens
- 24:25after boy gets girl again? Right, what time travel? And it just
- 24:30keeps Yeah, it just keeps going on into their lives and I guess like
- 24:36the life lessons he continues to learn adults. It's really just yeah, it's
- 24:40just like a simple story of like a normal life, but you just throw
- 24:45a time travel mechanic into it. It's like literally like if anyone listen to
- 24:48this or us, just we have normal lives, we go, you know,
- 24:52regular jobs, we have families, all these things, and you just
- 24:55gave us the ability to time travel. What would that be like? And
- 24:59this is like what that movie is basically because the content there's not like crazy
- 25:02conflict, right, There's there are accidents that happen with family, right,
- 25:07or there's you know, his dad ends up getting cancer, which is a
- 25:10huge you know, it turns into like this is like one of the reasons
- 25:11the end of the movie is so sad because he's only able to go back
- 25:15to see his father one more time because he's about to have another kid and
- 25:21the father will be has died, so he can't go back in time to
- 25:25see his father because when he comes back, it'll be a different kid.
- 25:29So he's got like this is the last time he's ever going to have a
- 25:30conversation with his dad. It's like super sad, but like that's like a
- 25:34normal life problem, right, right, But it becomes complicated when you throw
- 25:40time travel into it because now you get to choose like how much you can
- 25:45go revisit you know, your loved ones who are gone and things like that.
- 25:48So it's like very interesting. Well it's it's the question, like,
- 25:55yeah, it's the question of like being stuck in the past, right and
- 25:59like refusing to like move forward versus choosing to move forward and embracing whatever comes
- 26:07next, right right. And I think that's a really that's a really beautiful
- 26:11message that the movie sets up, and you just laid out like a lot
- 26:15of a lot of things that makes the family like pretty relatable, right right.
- 26:21You know Bill Nye's character getting cancer. Tim is a goofy awkward loser
- 26:29who carries a lot of anxiety, but still, you know, somehow makes
- 26:33it work. The family itself is like made to be very relatable except for
- 26:37one thing. And don't get me wrong, I know that there is a
- 26:41reason for it. I just think it's funny considering how relatable the whole family
- 26:45is. They're so obnoxiously rich, like crazier, Like the characters are specifically
- 26:52made to be so relatable, and they are and everyone is delivering great performances.
- 26:56They are so relatable except for this one thing that they are so rich.
- 27:00In England, he drink tea for hours out on this like coastal like
- 27:06environment that's so beautiful, and then you don't have care in the world.
- 27:11Again, I get it. I know why they're rich. And with the
- 27:15time travel power, it would make you ask why aren't they rich? Right?
- 27:18Granddad did it and he wasn't happy, right, I like the movie.
- 27:23That movie addresses that we move forward. I just it's something that makes
- 27:29me laugh. It's like they're super relatable except for that. Right. It's
- 27:37also brutal too, because, like you know, like his dad gets cancer
- 27:41and they address that too, where he's just like, of course, I
- 27:45got you know, I went back in time. I got diagnosed as early
- 27:47as I could, but by that time. It was too late because I
- 27:49have been smoking my whole life and all these things. It's just like so
- 27:52brutal. And the thing that makes it more brutal is the music. The
- 27:56soundtrack. The soundtrack on this film is incredible, dude. I repeatedly stopped
- 28:02to try and figure out what some of these songs were. Yeah, well,
- 28:06and and like there are songs like in the film obviously that are you
- 28:11know, written by musicians and things like that. But then there's also like
- 28:15the underlying soundtrack that was composed specifically for the film, and that specifically is
- 28:21like heart wrenching. You know. It's like the film opens that way,
- 28:23and when you've seen this film already and you hear the music for the first
- 28:26time, you're air You're just like, oh my god, I'm setting myself
- 28:29up for just like some rough moments towards the end, because the music really
- 28:33really takes those scenes where you know, he's like seeing his father for the
- 28:37last time and having the tough conversations like really makes those scenes come together.
- 28:42I just love films that focus on The soundtrack is like a way to drive,
- 28:48you know. I think this movie is firing on all cylinders, you
- 28:52know, including the musical composition. There's one thing I had to that you
- 29:00mentioned the scene where Bill N's talking about his cancer diagnosis. This was probably
- 29:04my favorite line in the entire movie, where N he explains to Tim,
- 29:11you know, it was probably the cigarettes that I had been smoking, which
- 29:15I could never have stopped since I'm pretty sure it's what your mother was drawn
- 29:18to, since I'm such a sexy smoker. Yeah, absolutely love that.
- 29:23So good, so good. And also with a scene where you know they
- 29:27get Tim and Charlie get married and he has to pick a best man,
- 29:33and he goes through like all three friends that he could choose, and finally
- 29:37he goes back in time and picks his father, and then his father gives
- 29:41a speech for the first time and they're talking about it after the wedding and
- 29:44they're both having this moment and like Tim's looks at his father and he goes,
- 29:47no, it was really great, like I and like the only thing
- 29:49that his father didn't say was I love you at the end of the speech,
- 29:52and he's like, I really should have said I love you. I
- 29:53really didn't think I didn't do a good job. And Tim's trying to tell
- 29:56him, no, it was an amazing speech. I wouldn't have wanted it
- 29:59any other their way. And they look at each other and like Tim already
- 30:03knows what's gonna happen, as Dad's gonna go back in time and redo the
- 30:06speech, which is just funny because it just feels like we're in this weird
- 30:08loop where like the father and the son, for this one specific moment in
- 30:15both of their lives, they wanted it to be perfect, so they both
- 30:17went back in time for the same moment a different at different times to get
- 30:22to get it right. So I thought that was really funny where they just
- 30:25like it goes back in time just to change one little thing in the speech.
- 30:27What does he say to him? It's a bit along the lines of
- 30:30like, don't tell me how to live my life something like that, something
- 30:34something clever. Yeah, yeah, really good. I so yeah. To
- 30:41readdress Rachel McAdams here, I didn't remember. I mean, I knew she
- 30:47was in this movie, but like when the movie started, it had dawned
- 30:51on me that we have two time travel Rachel McAdam movies, at least two.
- 30:56I don't think she's in any other our choices, right, She's not
- 31:02in intertellar right, No, that's but yeah, it's just the two,
- 31:07which I thought was really cool because she is two very different characters in this
- 31:14and then Midnight, Yeah, she's in Midnight in Paris, in Paris,
- 31:18Yeah, frantic clean, Yeah, and she does not get a lot to
- 31:25I love that movie, and we'll get to that movie. She does not
- 31:26get a lot to work with in that movie except be horrible, whereas in
- 31:33this one, like she's she's really quite lovable, and she gets to be
- 31:37very goofy and awkward herself. It was really neat to see her do that.
- 31:41I think the movie tries very hard to make Rachel McAdams in the beginning
- 31:48of the movie not look as hot as she actually is, like purposely trying
- 31:53to make her look a bit more wholesome, and I'm like, it's not
- 31:56working, it's not working. Nope, she's still hot. It's funny.
- 32:04Yeah, I think most of the movie is very pleasant and delightful. I
- 32:10think this I think you kind of hit the nail on the head. This
- 32:13movie is like less coming of age and more slice of life. Right and
- 32:22yeah, really the last like twenty minutes when we are trying to use time
- 32:25travel to avoid some of life's harder learned lessons, and it simply just can't
- 32:35be done. The first, of course, being a character we have not
- 32:37brought up, is Tim's younger sister, KitKat. Yeah, I love I
- 32:44love KitKat. She's so weird and crazy and jumping on people. It just
- 32:52seems to be so full of love. She has a line when she's speaking
- 32:58to her uncle that I think is so heartbreaking during the wedding, when her
- 33:02uncle says next, it'll be you, kit Kat, and she says,
- 33:06I don't think that's true, Uncle Dee. Boys can be mean. Jesus,
- 33:12my heart just like crumbles at that line, And of course, you
- 33:19know, we get to her whole the arc of her movie where and this
- 33:22is the first time this is introduced, and it's important for the end.
- 33:27Tim brings his sister back in time to stop her from meeting the most toxic
- 33:32male that she'll ever come across in her life. And it works. Oh,
- 33:38I forgot. This is very important because this is one of my other
- 33:42issues with time travel, and we'll come back to it. But yeah,
- 33:45there's a part of this that is problematic, but anyway, yeah, it
- 33:52works out for her. She's happy, but this is when we learn the
- 33:55thing about the kids, and we can't go back any further than when someone's
- 34:00and born. Right, he's gotta he's got to let his sister make her
- 34:04own mistakes and learn her own lessons, right, which is really brutal,
- 34:09brutal lesson to learn, brutal lesson to learn, but necessary especially in that
- 34:15moment. But right, But also it brings up the question of like,
- 34:20well, I guess you can bring people back with you right to time travel,
- 34:24right, which that's a problem in itself. And then obviously when he
- 34:28went back to change bringing her back, she forgot that she had even done
- 34:31it because it wasn't part of her timeline anymore. It was weird, you
- 34:36know, So definitely weird. Definitely some time travel law is being broken throughout
- 34:40this film for sure, but aren't a lot And like again, it doesn't
- 34:45really seem to harm the plot very very much, right, Yeah, but
- 34:52that does set up the uh, the the ending in which we know that
- 34:58Tim is going to have a a third child because Mary really really wants a
- 35:05third kid. Yeah, And this means that since his dad has passed away
- 35:13in his current timeline, he will no longer be able to go back in
- 35:19time to see his father anymore, which means in this movie, we have
- 35:24to watch a father die twice. And fuck you movie for creating such a
- 35:34brutal concept. Yeah, absolutely, you know it's funny too, not funny.
- 35:38But what's interesting too about this scene is, like, you know how
- 35:40you were saying earlier, we don't get a lot of conflict in this movie.
- 35:45This movie almost gives us a little bit of conflict. So the first
- 35:47moment when we find out that the dad has been diagnosed with cancer and he's
- 35:52going to die soon, they're in they're in an office room, and they
- 36:00had just come downstairs after talking realizing they left the baby in the room with
- 36:05important with an important manuscript, and the baby is ripped up and shredded the
- 36:10manuscript, and Rachel McAdams's character closes the door and locks it because like she
- 36:17wants to yell at Tim and like fight about the fact that he left her
- 36:23in this room when she knows that this is a very important manuscript she needs
- 36:27to have ready for tomorrow for her work, and so like this is really
- 36:31the only time where like there's kind of more conflict between these two characters and
- 36:37Tim can't get out of the room. All he's trying to do is like
- 36:40get to a dark room so that he can like time travel back a little
- 36:44bit and like make sure that the manuscript isn't ruined. And they're like about
- 36:50to have like a really big fight because she's not letting him out of this
- 36:52room, and then all of a sudden, they get the phone call from
- 36:54Tim's mom that dad has cancer and they need to come home, and it's
- 37:00just like we were, like it was so close to like some real more
- 37:06conflict, right, like a big fight with like we never really see because
- 37:08he always is able to go back and fix it, but it gets kind
- 37:13of ruined by a worse thing happening. Obviously. I just thought that was
- 37:16an interesting like observation from Yeah, just the time travel esque of it.
- 37:22Yeah, No, I agree, because I think that's when the movie like
- 37:25kind of takes a turn, right, because like, for the most part,
- 37:30it's it feels like this whole movie is going to be about romance.
- 37:35And it's like it's literally at that moment when the movie tells you it's not
- 37:39just gonna be about romance. This is this is a romantic comedy, but
- 37:44this is also a life movie. Right. Yeah, no, I think
- 37:47that's a really great point to bring up, because yeah, like it does
- 37:51feel like they're about to have a much harder conversation and at that point movie
- 37:57transitions into dealing with life, and we get less of Mary at this point,
- 38:05right, but she's still like a really strong like support for Tim and
- 38:09the rest of the family, especially when KitKat is in the hospital. I
- 38:15actually found Rachael McAdams's performance of when kit Kat's asking like, can you guys
- 38:21go at, Like, Rachel McAdams like just shaking her head and she's like,
- 38:24no, we're gonna, We're gonna stay here. I found her performance
- 38:27in that scene to be like the most endearing. Yeah, she was wonderful.
- 38:32But anyway, yeah, sorry, long winded way of saying, that's
- 38:35a great observation. Yeah, no, and I totally agree with it with
- 38:39you. There. Also, can we really quick talk about the scene when
- 38:43Tim meets her parents for the first time unexpectedly? My god, why would
- 38:47you ever bring up oral sex? Explain the scene? Explain the scene.
- 38:53I mean, so you know, Rachel McAdams, this character Charlotte hadn't told
- 38:59her parents yet that they had really that she's really been seeing someone, and
- 39:01to that point, they aren't just seeing each other. They live together and
- 39:06so all of it, and her parents were coming to visit and she never
- 39:10you know, they always would bail, and this is the time they decided
- 39:14to actually show up, and so they call like when they're five minutes away,
- 39:19and all of a sudden, Charlotte has to tell Tim that he's about
- 39:23to meet her parents for the first time in the next five minutes. And
- 39:25they don't even know really that they're dating that seriously, and two that they
- 39:29even live together. Charlotte's basically just like just yeah, let me talk and
- 39:36don't mention sex or oral sex or anything like that. And It's like,
- 39:40well, yeah, of course, I was definitely going to bring up oral
- 39:44sex as like a joke, right, because like why would you bring that
- 39:47up at all, especially to parents. And then they the door opens and
- 39:52this is the first time they're meeting, and it's so awkward because they weren't
- 39:57expecting to see a man in the apartment and like Tim was just putting on
- 40:00clothes because he was only on like boxer shorts or whatever. And they're like
- 40:07greet each other and Tim is so nervous that he just goes, we're not
- 40:12having oral sex the father, just like what are we doing? It is
- 40:16like one of the funniest scenes and like in any movie, it's so awkward
- 40:22and so hilarious. And then obviously he's going to go back and do that
- 40:24whole moment over again because he's just so caught off guard. But it's just
- 40:29like, imagine if you couldn't do a moment like that over, how do
- 40:31you get over that? Like, how do you come back from him from
- 40:34being so awkward? You don't you just take the L You take the L
- 40:39you just move on find another girl. Yeah, that's that scene is brutal,
- 40:45so awkward. Yeah, Tim is painfully awkward. I mean he's supposed
- 40:52to be right like Monk Lison, Like his performance is perfect as like a
- 40:58hatefully awkward person, but you know, also like very endearing. You know,
- 41:05it's to the point where like when when he's when he first meets Mary,
- 41:10they meet in a I don't know what this concept is called. I
- 41:14know this movie didn't invent this. I know it exists like a darkened restaurant
- 41:17where you go in, you meet people, but everything is there's no light.
- 41:22You can only just talk to people. You have no idea what anyone
- 41:23looks like. And he is so smooth with the girl that he has no
- 41:30idea what she looks like. He's just saying like all the right things.
- 41:34He's hilarious. It was to the point where I was like, bro,
- 41:37just blindfold yourself, just like where eye patches all the time, like you
- 41:40don't need your eyes. You like you are the smoothest man on the planet
- 41:45when you cannot see. Yeah, that's funny. It's such a great point.
- 41:49Oh my goodness, I do want to bring up the kind of last
- 41:54moment really before we get to the ensemble montage of everyone sure, it's it's
- 42:00the final goodbye with Tim and Dad and Dad realizing oh, like this this
- 42:08is it right, like this is the last time we're going to see each
- 42:12other. And because of the concept that was set up earlier with kit Kat
- 42:17of taking her back in time, Dad says, you know, we're really
- 42:21careful, like we won't change anything. I want to do one last thing
- 42:25with you, and it's just Dad and Tim. Tim has returned to They've
- 42:32come back to a point in Tim's life where Tim is a child and it's
- 42:37the two of them just running on a beach together. And you know the
- 42:43movie, the movie didn't set that up right, Like, you know,
- 42:45we never heard about like what exactly Tim's childhood was, Like I mean,
- 42:50I guess he does say in the beginning, like it was a pretty great
- 42:52childhood, right, but like right, there was nothing that sets up this
- 42:57moment. And I don't care because of like how like endearing this moment is.
- 43:04It's just wonderfully beautiful and like just like the best way to like say
- 43:08goodbye to someone. I think that that was the moment that like crushed me
- 43:15the most. Is is this goodbye what about you? Yeah? The last
- 43:21the last scene with them, you know, playing ping pong again like they
- 43:23always do, and it's just like the last last meeting, and then the
- 43:29music, the perfect score plays. It's just totally heartbreaking, but like like
- 43:35you said, just like a beautiful life movie. You know, like it's
- 43:37like you're sad, but like you're also happy about it because like they're getting
- 43:43more time to spend with each other than anyone else normally. What right,
- 43:46So because of this like cool little thing that they're they can do, which
- 43:51is time travel coincidentally, so it's just a really cool concept to kind of
- 43:55explore like the further meaning of it all basically, you know, and like
- 44:00a normal life trajectory. Really overall, it's just a super enjoyable film like
- 44:06Gotta go. You have to watch it if you haven't seen it. It's
- 44:07just like totally heartwarming. This would probably be on my list of like top
- 44:13ten, might even be at top five time travel movies for me. Yeah,
- 44:19it's really good, which is again why I'm really pissed that you got
- 44:22it in the draft. It's just it's really beautiful. Yeah, I know,
- 44:28great choice. Anything else before we move on to time travel? No,
- 44:35no, no, I'm good. I think we can talk about time
- 44:37travel a little bit and do uh yeah, do the deal time travel?
- 44:42Okay, time travel in this movie very simple. Like you said, I
- 44:46think I only have two nippicks with it. So movie tells us that the
- 44:52rules are you can't go back further than when you were born, only in
- 44:57the places that you remember. Go to a dark room, clench your fists,
- 45:00and imagine where you want to be. The additional rule later that we
- 45:05get is you can go beyond someone else's birth, but if you do,
- 45:08you will change the outcomes of the birth, which again I think that's a
- 45:12good limitation. I think all the limitations are pretty good. There are things
- 45:16about this dime travel mechanism that like raise a lot of questions. The first
- 45:23one for me is so, unlike the Harry Potter time turner, you do
- 45:31pop into existence, but like you can make the time turner thing work,
- 45:35right, like as long as like you're not in the same spot as you
- 45:38were when you pop in it out, whereas like this one, so you
- 45:44appear geographically in the same closet or dark space that you're in, right,
- 45:50but like you're taking the place of a you that's already there. So does
- 45:54that you just like get deleted, right, and like everyone like you're conversation
- 46:00with somebody and like you're just gone, and everyone's like, right, did
- 46:02anyone else just see Tim blink out of existence? Right exactly? This is
- 46:08a huge plot problem, a huge problem with the time travel mechanic. And
- 46:13this is what a lot of like critics back when this movie came out had
- 46:15issues with because like science wise, time travel wise and science wise, this
- 46:21film does not try to explain that part of it. It's like, this
- 46:24is a romantic comedy. We're throwing in some time travel. If you think
- 46:29about it too seriously, you're going to ruin the message for yourself. However,
- 46:36we're going to talk about it seriously because this is the point of this
- 46:37particular episode and time travel draft. So the mechanics are atrocious in this film
- 46:46because you literally are going to you have to go like you can travel back
- 46:53in time, but you will you will show up wherever you started from.
- 47:00So if you are in the future or in your present and you are in
- 47:04a cupboard and you travel back in time, you will end up in that
- 47:07cupboard in the past, which means, like you said, your other existence
- 47:12in that timeline just disappears. So that is a huge time travel plat hole
- 47:19like that that really ends the conversation on like, how is the time travel
- 47:25mechanic in this movie? Well, unfortunately it's awful because it just doesn't work.
- 47:31There's no explanation. And then furthermore, when you go back to that
- 47:36cupboard to then time travel back to your present, which really becomes your future.
- 47:44So when they say at the beginning of the film that you can't time
- 47:47travel to the future, that's kind of bullshit too, because the second you
- 47:52time travel back to the past, your past becomes your present, and then
- 47:58your really sure argument, So like, right, it's really all wrong if
- 48:05we nitpick, okay, and it's not even a nitpick because it's a big
- 48:08problem. It just made me so excited because yeah, you're right. Okay,
- 48:14you're so right, and it's okay. So to like break that down
- 48:16even like simply no, not simpler, you broke it down greatly. But
- 48:20to like reference a time travel movie that we are going to go over at
- 48:23some point during the series. Uh. Bruce Banner in Avengers Endgame points out
- 48:30that if you were to go back into the past, uh, that's become
- 48:34your new present, and that which you left behind in what was the present
- 48:37is now going to be your new future in this new timeline that you're creating,
- 48:42which is why like time travel itself like is weird and doesn't make sense.
- 48:46So you're right, they do travel forward in time. They do travel
- 48:52in the future, which contradicts exactly what he said, which like that's I
- 48:55feel like that's simple enough to like avoid just don't have a return point,
- 49:00right, like just have them live out the rest of their life. But
- 49:04I guess there's certain things in the plot that they can't do if if they
- 49:07do that right, and then you're just reliving your live over and over again
- 49:10until you get it right. What you can never get it right because there's
- 49:14always gonna be something that you want to change. And this which is ends
- 49:16maybe being a whole point in the movie. It's like you have to learn
- 49:20to live with the some of the things that are going to happen to you
- 49:22because it makes you who you are, basically, right, It's just like,
- 49:25yeah, but the time travel portion so many problems. It's just the
- 49:31movie. But it's fun. It's supposed to be fun, right, it's
- 49:35not. This does not run the movie at all, of course not you're
- 49:37right, right, right, But like it's to the point where like this
- 49:43this isn't even time travel. Like what they're doing, like like they're calling
- 49:46it time travel to like keep it simple, right, but like it's not
- 49:50time travel. What they're doing is their world line hopping, right, Like
- 49:53they're hopping to a world line where you know, whatever they did before hasn't
- 50:00happened yet, and they can create like a new timeline, right, Like
- 50:02that old timeline still exists, they just jumped away from it and now they're
- 50:06like in this one, and then they returned to the present point of that
- 50:09timeline that they just jumped into. Right, it's a totally different dimension that
- 50:14they just hopped into. We should we should make a movie about all the
- 50:19timelines that they left behind in the film. So many, so many timelines
- 50:23just abandoned. Can you imagine about About Time sequel? What a great all
- 50:30the abandoned timelines. That's that's a perfect title for YouTube video that we should
- 50:35absolutely waste our time doing. That's a great that's a great idea, the
- 50:38About Time sequel. You didn't ask for what that you need? About about
- 50:44time? About time? About Time? There's actually so in thinking of the
- 50:51concept of time travel in this movie, like which again, like I'm sticking
- 50:53with the thought here worldline hopping. There's uh, do you want you do
- 50:59you watch Your and Morty at all? No, Okay, there's there's a
- 51:02Rick and Mordy episode that is sort of it's not like about time at all,
- 51:07but like it's about what we're talking about. So with the record in
- 51:13the first season, Rick has told us he will never do time travel.
- 51:15He doesn't like time travel, right, he says his bs. Anyway,
- 51:22there's an episode in like the fourth season or so where Morty begs Rick to
- 51:25give him a do over button, which is what this movie is, right,
- 51:30Like, yeah, give him a button in which like he can.
- 51:32It's the idea of, like you're you're playing a video game, right,
- 51:37and right before you fight the boss, you save your game, and then
- 51:40you go fight the boss, you get killed, but then you just return
- 51:45to the last place you saved, right, That's what Rick makes him.
- 51:47He makes him like a do over button that allows you to save in a
- 51:52spot. Right. So Morty uses this throughout the entire episode in like many
- 51:57many different ways. And the twisted is at the end we find out that
- 52:01it's not a do over button, that it's not a time travel button because
- 52:07again Rick doesn't do time travel, and that what it actually is, it's
- 52:12a button that sends Morty to another dimension where he wanted to be, like
- 52:19in that place in time, and kills the Morty in that dimension so that
- 52:23he can live that Morty's life in the way that he would have wanted to
- 52:28in that timeline. And he's killed countless Morties in doing my it's an amazing
- 52:36episode, Oh my goodness. So yeah, I would like to imagine he's
- 52:42killed lots of tims, lots of what what what? What? A sequel
- 52:47that would be unbelievable. It's no longer a romantic comedy. It's a horror
- 52:52film. Dude. He's a serial killer. That's so interesting. There's a
- 53:00there's one more air that I wanted to talk about. So it's a rather
- 53:05quick one, and it's when I didn't remember until watching this movie again with
- 53:10you. In this experiment, the fluidity in which you remember the changes of
- 53:15a timeline is not consistent, and again it's done for dramatic purposes. So
- 53:23when we bring kit Kat back in time to prevent her from dating this really
- 53:30toxic, horrible dude, they come back into the present and KitKat has all
- 53:35of these new memories of this new guy in her life after all these years,
- 53:39and she remembers it almost instantly as they're standing in the cupboard. However,
- 53:45Tim doesn't seem to know the changes that have happened in his life,
- 53:50such as he has a son now not a right. That's a great point.
- 53:54Yeah, again it's done for dramatic purposes, and it is a really
- 53:58great reveal, but it's not consistent, and it's a problem travel this movie.
- 54:01That's an excellent point. Yeah, great point. I have nothing else
- 54:07to say that. I also have nothing else to say on that point.
- 54:09That's all I got. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, man,
- 54:16Yeah, I don't think I have anything else on the time travel front.
- 54:22I think I got like everything out of my like what I was thinking.
- 54:25It's a simple enough concept. Uh, it's it's you know, I think
- 54:30we pointed simple. It's flaws, right, simple works for the movie has
- 54:35flaws, like for sure, but it's not the kind of movie where you're
- 54:40supposed to like it's not the kind of movie that's supposed to have strict time
- 54:44travel laws to get you to like the resolve of the film, right,
- 54:50And that part of the reason is because there's not a huge conflict in the
- 54:52film. It's just about life, and the conflict is that time travel.
- 54:59The actually the conflict of the film is that you can time travel, which
- 55:01makes it more complicated in some instances by not having to deal with it in
- 55:07the moment. So which actually, yeah, I think that's that just leaves
- 55:10our grading here. Yeah, so, uh, Nick, you want to
- 55:15kick us off with your grade for the overall movie. Overall, it's so
- 55:21it's I love this film, even with the flaws of the time travel mechanics,
- 55:23like I want to give this like a four point six, Like I
- 55:28just love this film. I could watch it a ton, except I don't
- 55:31like to cry very often, so well, you know, once a year
- 55:35is good, but this is like you have to watch this film if you
- 55:37haven't seen it, and it is a it's on the rewatch list, like
- 55:42this film will always be rewatched. So yeah, yeah, this is one
- 55:46of the few movies that I'll actually pay Amazon to watch. Right. Oh
- 55:52we bought it because it was like three ninety nine to rent FO nine to
- 55:58buy, and I was like, well, shit, we must just by
- 56:00thin because I'll definitely watch it at least one more time. So now I
- 56:02own this movie. There are five dollars on Amazon Prime, so thanks,
- 56:06thanks bezos. Good moves. Good moves are made there. I don't have
- 56:10anything more to say than what we've already said. I love this movie.
- 56:15It's for me. It's near perfect. My two Achilles heels are any father
- 56:19and son scene and time travel, and this movie has both. Uh uh,
- 56:25It's like I was made for this. I can't wait to watch Endgame
- 56:28with you. Oh my god, we all we've done the whole time travel
- 56:31draft so far, in all three episodes, is just quote the whole Yeah,
- 56:36he's got the best quotes in that movie. He's got so many quotes.
- 56:39But you have do comedy next. Yeah, for sure. For me,
- 56:44it is uh, this is a four nine, it is it is.
- 56:47Yeah, it is almost a five for me. It's so close it
- 56:51damn close. It was good. Yeah, yeah, I am I being
- 56:55a coward. Fuck it five got a five. We've got a five out
- 57:04of five. This is like real piss that I give it your okay,
- 57:09man, I should have given it a five too, damn gang. But
- 57:15wow, five out of five Joe, that's that's the highest score we've ever
- 57:19had on this podcast. Oh yeah, it's a perfect score. Yeah.
- 57:22So first, this is the this is the first perfect score, is the
- 57:25first perfect score and podcast years in you did you picked it? I picked
- 57:30it? You you scored it. This is great. I might crush you
- 57:35on this time travel draft here. It might. It might. If I
- 57:37do lose, it's because of this moment right now. Yeah, very possible.
- 57:42And end game would be the other reason I forget what's your time travel
- 57:45comedy? Time travel comedy is Groundhog Day. No, no, that's your
- 57:51romantic, that's your that's your romance. Romance. I think Midnight in Paris
- 57:54is your comedy. I haven't mixed up. It's Midnight in Paris is my
- 57:58comedy. Man, So Midnight in Paris is going up against Endgame. That's
- 58:02that lineup. That's interesting. Oh okay, time travel, time travel draft.
- 58:13All right, here's here's where it gets serious. Yeah, this is
- 58:16true the time travel on this movie. Uh, this is the brutal part
- 58:21because it's it's technically it's technically very bad. Uh time. I mean two
- 58:29point five would be nice, but two is probably the real score. Uh
- 58:32of two point two out of five. Yes, yeah, it's not good.
- 58:38The time travel doesn't work. It works in the overall context of the
- 58:44film, and it makes the film fun and enjoyable, and it does it
- 58:46does what it needs to do to make you believe and make the film work.
- 58:50But if we just grade it on specifically time travel, it is completely
- 58:53flawed. So two point two is the score I have to give it,
- 58:57which is maybe a little high, but it is. It is. You
- 59:01took the words right out of my mouth. It does what it needs to
- 59:05do, So for that it gets it's it's not a bottom score. So
- 59:09for that, it's a it's a two for me. There we go,
- 59:13Yeah it makes sense. Yeah, okay. And then in how it did
- 59:17in the category, which the category was romance, romance, romantic time travel.
- 59:24What are you giving it? Oh? I think, I mean it's
- 59:29it's it's right on the money from a romance perspective. Granted, like it
- 59:34is more about the relationship between father and son than it is, but it's
- 59:37a fifty to fifty right, Like half the movies about finding the love of
- 59:40your life, and then the other half of the movie is like dealing with
- 59:45the families, like your your loved ones that you grew up with, like
- 59:52progressing and changing in their lives and also you know, moving on. So
- 59:57for romance, I have to give it of four point eight out of five.
- 1:00:01I think it does well. I just don't want to give it a
- 1:00:04five. But I think that it's not full romance because half of it is
- 1:00:09more about the relationship between the family, your family, like him and his
- 1:00:15father, which that's not really romance, right, that's like a different kind
- 1:00:19of love. So full point eight out of five I am going to be
- 1:00:22a little lower than you on this, but not a lot lower. I'm
- 1:00:27going to say a four or five here. I agree with what you said
- 1:00:30that you know, there's a big portion of this movie that is not romantic.
- 1:00:34However, like most of the time travel in this movie is about romance,
- 1:00:38like whether it's about his relationship with Mary or it's him driving to save
- 1:00:44kit Kat from making it poor romantic decision. Yeah, true, most of
- 1:00:47the time travel is for romance, So I think it works in the category
- 1:00:52really well. Even if toward the end of the movie, you know,
- 1:00:57it's more about life than it is about romance. Overall, it's still very
- 1:01:01romantic. So yeah, four or five overall, Uh, it's it's a
- 1:01:07great movie. I would say thank you for choosing this movie, but like,
- 1:01:12fuck you for choosing this movie, because I wanted to choose this movie.
- 1:01:15But either way, I'm super glad that we watched it. It is,
- 1:01:16like you said, if you haven't watched it, go watch it.
- 1:01:19It's so good. Ye yeah, awesome, that's a review right there.
- 1:01:23Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, for we're in romance. So,
- 1:01:30like you pointed out, thank you for reminding me. Groundhog Day is next
- 1:01:34out and on the list, and somewhere in the cards, either next or
- 1:01:37in between Dune. We are covering Dune part two. Yeah, I think
- 1:01:43Dune. Dune Part two is next, because Dune Part two is next.
- 1:01:45But until then, mayither of you be with you? He