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Once-A-Week Podcast: Some Dreams Are Nightmares · Big Dog Lukie Boxing Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: What's up everybody?
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the once a week podcast brought to you by you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to start off with my opening segment right now.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: Do a thought exercise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's sit here and pretend that the year is 2014.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know about Chris Algieri's career.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he's stepping in the ring after beating Manny Taylor,
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  SPEAKER_00: Emmanuel Taylor for those that look at BoxRec.
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  SPEAKER_00: Goes in.
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  SPEAKER_00: With a crude slugger named Ruslan Provodnikov, who's a heavy favorite.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fight starts disastrous.
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  SPEAKER_00: His eye swells.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's down.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about as bad as it could go.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Algieri shows courage and conviction,
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  SPEAKER_00: changes his life,
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  SPEAKER_00: becomes an icon for the rest of time in boxing by winning a world title
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  SPEAKER_00: under distress and piggybacks that into a Manny Pacquiao fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who would have thought it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well...
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  SPEAKER_00: Nestor Bravo got to try to live that dream when he took
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: on Isak Pitbull Cruise this past weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: The problem is not all dreams are saintly.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not all pristine.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't always go the way you expect.
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  SPEAKER_00: And unfortunately, in Bravo's situation, his dream quickly turned into a nightmare.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bravo had shown power at some levels in the sport, dropping seemingly durable opponents.
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  SPEAKER_00: He had looked limited, his ability to cut off the ring at times.
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  SPEAKER_00: But still, there were questions about could he give Cruz issues?
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  SPEAKER_00: And within about a half a round,
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  SPEAKER_00: we saw Cruz's aggression, physicality, and strength left behind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bravo befuddled, confused, and looking for answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: It felt as though he was fighting off of instincts which led him to lose points and get dropped.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was starting out just as bad almost as Algieri started out.
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  SPEAKER_00: The problem was Algieri had a path to victory and a game plan.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whatever Bravo's game plan was went out the window after the first round.
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  SPEAKER_00: The hope of landing a big punch seemingly obscured by the fact
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  SPEAKER_00: that Pitbull was relentless coming forward Trying his luck
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  SPEAKER_00: to land even more damning blows after damning blows.
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  SPEAKER_00: The inevitable result,
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  SPEAKER_00: a highlight reel left hook knockout for Pitbull Cruz,
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  SPEAKER_00: will be shared amongst social media.
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  SPEAKER_00: When Pitbull gets a big,
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  SPEAKER_00: high profile fight,
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  SPEAKER_00: you'll probably see that clip with an announcer screaming and yelling.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for Bravo,
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  SPEAKER_00: he goes back to obscurity,
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  SPEAKER_00: probably now having to fight up and coming prospects who want to get to this stage.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the inevitable thing we see.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you want to go to the big stage,
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  SPEAKER_00: not every story is going to be good, and we have to be okay with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: A fighter like Bravo had been grinding for 11 or so years to see where he fit in
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  SPEAKER_00: at this point in his career.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a reasonable enough suspicion,
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  SPEAKER_00: at least based on people's concerns around if Pitbull crews can fight it this way,
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  SPEAKER_00: class, to wonder, hey, Maybe this might actually be a tough fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when it doesn't go that way,
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  SPEAKER_00: rather than condemning matchups like this,
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  SPEAKER_00: why don't we just simply say,
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  SPEAKER_00: sometimes guys take the chance and they find out that at this point,
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  SPEAKER_00: at this moment,
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  SPEAKER_00: either this matchup or this level of fighter just isn't where they're at in
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  SPEAKER_00: the sport.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a harsh reality, but it is the truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Coming off of this weekend, I think that's the best takeaway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, the rest of the notes, I've got a lot of questions that came in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Recording it a little bit early, kind of cheating on the exam, but I do do a paywall podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did say doo-doo,
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  SPEAKER_00: so that might make someone giggle or I might just be very,
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  SPEAKER_00: very immature, struggling to find my notes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, here we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to get them in, Probably will take this week off for the Paywall Podcast.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that the Japanese fights are going to be needle movers in terms
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  SPEAKER_00: of drama or fight line stories that people will want.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you do, maybe I'll do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go into the first question.
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  SPEAKER_00: John Hedges looked like crap midweek.
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  SPEAKER_00: He wore a shirt during the weigh-in to hide his body.
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  SPEAKER_00: He wore a robe in the post-fight interview.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um...
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  SPEAKER_00: Did Brown headbutt in reply to holding?
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  SPEAKER_00: He won't be treated like a star A-side versus Vidal Riley like he was versus Hedges.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, to me, it's hard to assess Hedges.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hedges had always looked good but not great.
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  SPEAKER_00: With Brown, I thought he did pretty decent.
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  SPEAKER_00: He just couldn't keep up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Vidal Riley is a tough one
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  SPEAKER_00: because I think my whole career I've underestimated how good he is and...
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  SPEAKER_00: That still probably continues.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just bring on a good fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus Ramos questions.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: Ramos looks great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Big at the open workout.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ann Pressler.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nurse Lintoloff looks like a stick.
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  SPEAKER_00: So most likely Nurse Lintoloff is going to rehydrate many more pounds than Ramos
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  SPEAKER_00: and be bigger fight night.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ramos looks like he has a longer similar reach.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ramos really ducked Nurse Lenthal off, laughed my ass off, can't trust a PBC fighter.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think that he probably got sick, so I think it's a little unfair to throw that.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then Shiraz ducks Janabek, Kazak, Boxers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: Unions.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: You realize that big U.S. Sports League violate antitrust laws all the time, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's like...
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean...
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  SPEAKER_00: Once you go into these topics of unionization and basically procedures as a whole,
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  SPEAKER_00: you're going into like years and years of really boring litigation
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  SPEAKER_00: because there's whole things that are built upon it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I guess the inherent thing is you're trying to figure out a way
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  SPEAKER_00: In all walks of life, right,
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  SPEAKER_00: where workers are compensated and protected so like their rights aren't violated
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  SPEAKER_00: at any moment just by their employer,
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  SPEAKER_00: but at the same time that they're an efficiently run thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they make money and in theory you're trying to build something
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  SPEAKER_00: where everything kind of is even but typically things get leveraged towards
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  SPEAKER_00: who makes the most money and whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's why most people are very sympathetic towards the fighters
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  SPEAKER_00: because they often have the lowest stake.
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  SPEAKER_00: They get around that through collective bargaining with unions.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I mean I think that the point is a collective bargaining agreement with
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  SPEAKER_00: the union is that there is – A form of a debate with a representative that creates
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  SPEAKER_00: a dialogue.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: A salary cap is unlawful.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, is it or isn't?
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think that in theory is an ethical question, right?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: That goes down to more ethics than law, right?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think that I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: You'd have to throw it in the comments if you can find out a law that does that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that the ethics to that would be that you're trying to create
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  SPEAKER_00: the most interesting product forward.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: So some markets like New York City are going to have bigger revenue just based on
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: the population and people's connection, right?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: Sports teams,
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: if you move to like Ohio,
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  SPEAKER_00: but you're from New York City, sometimes you buy merchandise to be the New York guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And by proxy,
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  SPEAKER_00: you're going to have a larger revenue stream because of the Where you live,
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  SPEAKER_00: the people,
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  SPEAKER_00: the salaries they make, and kind of the fan base being all across the thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Collecting, bargaining gets around it.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: Boxing is actually more pure than your sports leagues.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it is and it isn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just, to me, it's unregulated capitalism.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we might be seeing some form of regulations going into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll just keep going in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just feel like right now it's political.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a political system.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they won't tell you about the role of the manager.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um...
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, let's keep going.
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  SPEAKER_00: All I'd say is that where we rate him,
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: we need more Pitbull Cruise type fighters more
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  SPEAKER_00: than we need Ryan Garcia type fighters.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a great...
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Great take is it doesn't really matter where Pitbull Cruz fits into boxing.
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  SPEAKER_00: He should just fit into boxing.
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  SPEAKER_00: A guy who's willing to take fights, exciting for the most part.
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  SPEAKER_00: The times he loses is because someone has a strategy to avoid running into him.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a really exciting aspect to fighters who fit that bill.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pitbull is ranked number 15 at 140 pounds per box rec.
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  SPEAKER_00: You'd think Cruz is a top 25 or top 20 super lightweight boxer.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think he's a fringe top 10.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I would like a little bit more of a resume to decide that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I definitely agree with Chris Mannix that
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: a fighter like Ernesto Tito Mercado does not really have the wins,
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  SPEAKER_00: in my opinion, for him to be ranked above Pitbull.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it feels like right now in boxing, we're doing a lot of eye tests.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remember Gervonta Davis?
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  SPEAKER_00: He's on the pound-for-pound list.
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  SPEAKER_00: People couldn't really tell me why other than he was really cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm looking forward to this question.
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  SPEAKER_00: In a way, his little brother...
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: The Lucas Ketelle's elusive emotions boxer.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: I like where this is going.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: Let's read through this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Neo Inoue's transition from knockout boxer puncher to
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  SPEAKER_00: a points boxer puncher has roughly coincided with Takuma's rebuild from
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  SPEAKER_00: the Tatsumi loss.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like this.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: How much of Takuma's rebuild lies within the emotions of a successful Ohasha gym?
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Where Takuma beat Kazuto Ioka on the undercard of Nao Inoue versus Junto Nakatani.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Diaya Kira successfully cut to 108 pounds to win a WBA title versus Carlos Canizales.
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  SPEAKER_00: Huge win, by the way.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: I believe...
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: Kira and then minor notes said that he rehydrated with water, doing a water cut.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: And once again, full transparency, don't care about that stuff.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: If you can make the weight,
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't believe in a concept of weight bullying because you have to sacrifice
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  SPEAKER_00: so much and you have to be mentally tough.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: That is a skill.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Some guys aren't going to be naturally talented.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some guys are going to have to win in the gym or win mentally.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: So that stuff doesn't matter to me.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've seen guys mentally break trying to cut weight.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for me, I don't put that much in.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually applaud guys that can do cuts like that and have longevity.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: How much does Naio undergoing the same training
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  SPEAKER_00: as Takuma despite having no set fight date lead to a positive emotion in
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  SPEAKER_00: the Ohasha gym?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think, and now you're getting down to my bread and butter.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is the number one where I'm going to answer this question,
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  SPEAKER_00: my bread and butter thing that I love.
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  SPEAKER_00: Big momentum guy.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I think momentum and emotion kind of go hand in hand when everything is going right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people are smiling in the gym and going, hey, what we're doing is right.
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  SPEAKER_00: What we're doing is good.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're the best out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you start to see when like One guy wins a fight and another guy wins a fight
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  SPEAKER_00: and another guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even like the lower level guys start to feel kind of top tier.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it reinforces the training.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it makes people more excited to try to develop.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it really gets a snowball effect.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where everybody is just starting to compete and wanting to see how far they can go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Has Takuma discovered power?
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Takuma beat tension wide to win the vacant WBC Bantamweight title.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he knocked down Ioka at least twice to defend it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or has Takuma benefited from favorable matchups?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to say it's in between.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I think tension...
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't fully know what he is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think the tough thing for me is for years I thought he was just
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  SPEAKER_00: a marketed fighter, kind of a gimmick fighter.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then he beats a former champion in Maloney and I go, okay, there's something real there.
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  SPEAKER_00: He has athleticism.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's some traits there.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then against Takuma, it just felt like the experience gap was far too vast and wide.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ioka was older in that fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I also think that Takuma,
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  SPEAKER_00: in a way,
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  SPEAKER_00: would be someone that would be a beloved fighter if his brother wasn't
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  SPEAKER_00: the best fighter in the world right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And let's go down for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ioka was 37 when he fought Takuma.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of what I'm getting at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ioka began his career at 105 pounds.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tension was 7-0 when he fought a 20-2 Takuma.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's go further into this question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is Takuma a hype job?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Before we get into this,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to say he's not a hype job just because to me what makes him
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  SPEAKER_00: an interesting fighter is twofold.
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  SPEAKER_00: Takuma has had some losses.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's the brother of one of the best fighters, if not the best fighter of this era in Neo Inouye.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's had to constantly reinvent himself after tough fights.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's had to,
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: the Tosumi fight was a fight where I think we were like,
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: okay, he reached his ceiling, reinvented himself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's pretty tough.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: Takuma lost to Nordin Olibali, who would be subsequently knocked out by Norito Donair.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: By the way, lukie note, one of the hardest punchers ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: And retired by a 9-9 Ricardo Martinez.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think Donair did a lot of the heavy lifting for that because Donair hit like
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  SPEAKER_00: a welterweight at some points.
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  SPEAKER_00: After rebuilding, Takuma was then set up for a vacant WBA title against older fighters.
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  SPEAKER_00: He knocks out Jerwin and Kanahas in defense, which,
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  SPEAKER_00: by the way,
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  SPEAKER_00: knocking out Jerwin and Kanahas,
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  SPEAKER_00: we're seeing guys at higher weight classes not do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So pretty darn good win.
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  SPEAKER_00: Takuma is dropped by Showick.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ashida, by the way,
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  SPEAKER_00: Ashida, really good fighter, in a wide points win and then loses the title to Tsumi.
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  SPEAKER_00: By the way, miss my guy Tsumi in the ring.
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  SPEAKER_00: Takuma's reputation as a feather-fisted and subpar,
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  SPEAKER_00: Ashida performance led to tension being a wide favorite in the first fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would say...
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  SPEAKER_00: Takuma feels like the anti-version of his brother.
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  SPEAKER_00: He feels like a speedster,
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  SPEAKER_00: a guy who's more amateur style,
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  SPEAKER_00: and by that I mean he throws fast punches rather quick,
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  SPEAKER_00: but not all that deliberate with the stinging blows.
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  SPEAKER_00: Does defeating a 7-0 former kickboxer and
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  SPEAKER_00: a 37-year-old former strawweight actually mean anything,
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  SPEAKER_00: or has Takuma found a rebirth with a resurgent Ohashi gym?
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's more that he's found something because if he wasn't what he was,
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  SPEAKER_00: he was in the prime position for tension to beat him.
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  SPEAKER_00: If he didn't have some semblance of truth,
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  SPEAKER_00: the level of confidence tension had,
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  SPEAKER_00: even if he's limited, he had the athleticism and he had the confidence.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's something there to win that fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is Nasakawa disrespecting Takuma by seeking this rematch?
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't say disrespecting.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: I would say irrational confidence guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's the irrational confidence guy who's like, Yeah, I lost, but I'm totally going to do this.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: He did beat Juan Francisco Estrada in April.
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  SPEAKER_00: Estrada, smaller guy, older guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's been 10 months since Takuma Inouye defeated tension wide.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's 10 months enough time for tension to close the gap.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so,
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: but I think it's an absolutely thrilling and compelling matchup
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: that I wish was being shared more and more because
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: as we do this thoughts exercise around this, I'm even more excited for the fight.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, should I do the crazed, unhinged Mom's Basement 4am podcast for this fight?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Does the world want that?
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the world wants that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I couldn't find the film.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm now jumping over to some film study.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: This could be chaotic.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think I did this right.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Let me see.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um...
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so there's still a couple more questions before I jump to film study.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: So there's the love of the long form content.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: Lukie, about an hour seems perfect to me.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Loving the content every week.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Also, welcome to Boxing Hell.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: The next seven years will consist of Zufa and TKO fanboys saying,
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: trust me, do your own research, look at what I said, listen up.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, basically the sport is in a very, very weird spot.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Let's recall also on my podcast where I brought up the OLLI Act,
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: um, people crying about the state of boxing in the U.S.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: It was Obama who, uh,
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: questioned, um,
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: what he would do for blacks,
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: refused to be specific, instead claiming rising tides lifts all boats.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, every other word capitalized,
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure what that means,
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: yet the same apparently did, well, um,
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think that the problem is most,
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: if not all politicians,
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: especially in my lifetime,
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: have always said one thing and then do another once elected.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: I probably lean more liberal, if not I am liberal, than conservative.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that seeing how this question is written,
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: it's probably more of someone that's a conservative person.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: So it seems like maybe just some of my political standpoints kind of maybe irk you
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: in a sense for whatever reason.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that the question is like there's been liberal...
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Politicians who haven't really delivered.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not really seeing the connection with Obama to a piece of legislation
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: that could possibly make fighters have less financial transparency.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe leave that in the comments for next week so I can...
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'll go through that better if I'm missing that.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: If boxing is successful in global markets,
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: then those in the U.S.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: markets would be forced to respond and compete,
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: yet not even Joseph Heron, my buddy, advocates for global competition on his show.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: It must have been Zhang versus Joyce II at Wembley when I saw two
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: or three Chinese nationals absolutely in tears during Zhang's walkout.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't find it now,
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: but I recall watching a video and Zhang asked Tyson Fury to face him to fight
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: and Fury agreed.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: The fight could have taken place in China.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's just an absolute clown show when U.S.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: pundits decry the state of boxing in the U.S.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: while never once mentioning how boxing power brokers refused to push a show
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: in Beijing.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: We literally had people Crying in tears at the mere sight of Zhang walking out,
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: yet Americans never questioned why boxing refused to push an entry into
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: the world's largest economy.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: the issue around that is, first off, boxing in America is not in a good place.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, This weekend coming up is a prime example.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm probably going to watch some of the Rising Stars promotions card
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: because I'm very excited about it.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: I might watch the Zufa card in a couple of fights,
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: but I'm going to be honest, I'll probably miss some of it too.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to see the Japanese card probably on tape delay.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: And that is not a strong weekend.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I start to wonder, like, am I going to miss a week of boxing?
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like if I start missing a week of boxing and I'm as hardcore as I am
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: and I have all these different podcast shows to put out.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Where is the sport of boxing going?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because there just can't be that many people that are interested.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I've heard people bring up the idea of, well, piracy is killing the sport.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even think we're relevant to worry about piracy.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: I almost would be excited if that piracy was an issue because
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: that would mean people want to see fights.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: I just feel like boxing isn't doing enough to even be noticed anymore.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like fans of boxing are slowly starting to find other things to do.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: To talk about the global thing,
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think that you're speaking to a uniquely US perspective where people from
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: the US have never had to think outside of the world.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: For most of a lot of people from the US's lifetime, the US was the center of the world.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Over the last probably 10 years, things have shifted.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Boxing no longer centers around Las Vegas.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: We're figuring out where the hub of boxing is, but it's no longer fully Vegas.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Things feel to be moving away.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: And the same for the sport of boxing and the same for the conversation of world issues.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I think when you bring up Zang...
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: That comes to the fact that most U.S. fight fans don't view the sport as a global sport.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: They don't look at things from a global perspective.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, they probably never will because it's a uniquely U.S. perspective.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: So if there's not things happening in the U.S.,
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: a lot of people won't watch the sport because the U.S. market,
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: along with probably many other markets,
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: are going to go,
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: if it's not in a time zone that's convenient for me, I don't want to watch it.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just simply what it is.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go to some film study placeholder for Takuma in a way.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see what this is.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay,
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: so
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: this is some HD footage.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: This is sick.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like Takuma.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: They're like at a golf course.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: I want to golf at this course with Inouye.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: They're at like a luxury golf course running up and down hills.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Takuma's definitely a little slow off the line.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: He wouldn't be playing for the Buccaneers, that's for sure.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Let's check it out.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: They're pushing a golf cart.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this looks like a sick-ass training session.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: I see why these guys got momentum.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: They're in like a golf course that looks beautiful.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: They're pushing a golf cart up.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: People are smiling.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: They're all jacked and stuff.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: This is sick.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now they're on a trail.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: They're running upstairs.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the views that these guys are training in, this is like the pebble beach.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: In terms of views for boxing training.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's obvious they have deep admiration for Inouye.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, they're doing medicine ball jumps up a bunch of stairs.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: We used to do that in Piedmont, me and my buddy Bilal.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: He used to run the Rose Garden stairs like 20 times and we'd go underneath
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: and we'd come up with variations and watching them do the medicine ball hops.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's like that reminds me of just like stuff we would do because it would be like,
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: okay, we did about three hours in a boxing gym.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: So let's just run, figure out different ways to run upstairs and stuff.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: So, okay.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Manny's in shape.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: Now they're doing bear crawls up the stairs.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Sick.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then they're doing piggyback rides.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think stairs are like one of the underrated things,
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: training things that people never talk about.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: Can you preview Suboy versus Ricardo Malajalik?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: And by the way, thank you for the comment.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: I am going to try to get a pundit that was recommended to me this week on who speaks
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: of Who can maybe help me with Maljiki.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have a Facebook account, so I hope that I'm going to be able to watch this.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know you're going to an amazing place when it's only low-res, very small Facebook videos.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Cal Berkeley hat, though.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: That is good.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder if Donito Donair Sr. is in that corner.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Paras versus Malajika.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's see.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: He must be a puncher.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's a little fast.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a wide stance, that Adonis Stevenson one.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: He's loading up on something really big with the right hand.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: He leans in with his head, too.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: So he's prone for headbutts.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: He falls in with his head, and he's a clincher.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: So the big thing I see with Malajika early on is...
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Got a little bit of that Dimitri Bivol, but in the wrong way.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: So he likes to jab,
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: and then he loads up as hard as he can on a straight right when he's out of range.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: He knows how to get his head off of the line.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: His head is his third best punch.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: He throws a good jab, a good right hand, and a headbutt.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm curious to see what else he's got.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's a tricky mover.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: He's a tricky mover.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's definitely like a formidable adversary.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: Just got hit with an overhand right.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: The problem with him is he's obviously a strong puncher, but he stands very, very tall.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: And you only get away with standing very,
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: very tall if you can keep guys at the end of your jab and you really turn
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: that right hand over.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, he's not looking great.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: His distance is all messed up in this fight.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: He's struggling to stay...
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Ineffective things.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say it's a struggle for him because of his distance comprehension.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: So let's check this out.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: World Boxing.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like World Boxing reached out to me once.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: They were like, do something with us.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: And then the minute I turn it on, it's taken on Marcel Braithwaite.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm being sold at Power Bank.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, buy this, buy this.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's kind of the same thing over and over in this film study.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's got decent legs.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: He really likes to load up.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: He has a fast jab,
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: but he kind of does that thing that's a little amateurish
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: that you see young fighters in the gym do where it's like a fast jab and then
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: the right hand comes a little too quick.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: So typically with a good jab, you get a good jab, hand comes back and right hand.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: And he also has some weird habits.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like the Mark Magsayo on the inside where his tendency is to go low
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: and almost go to the ground.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: When guys are on the inside, that's probably not a good habit.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: Let's watch this sequence.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to talk you through it.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like he's looking for this jab.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's looking for the extension.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Boom.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: He threw two of them, didn't fully go.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm at 141, now 139, second round.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: We'll go 135 right here.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Watch with me.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: So he's looking.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: He's got good eyes on it.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: Throws a wild right uppercut that wasn't going to land, right?
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: He's got, to be fair...
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Braithwaite is coming in.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's built like a fire hydrant and he's going to come in.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: So he's looking to counterpunch him.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's running the system on him.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: You can't just outbox guys like this unless you have elite level conditioning.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's turning him.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think the big thing and Braithwaite has no idea how to cut the ring off.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's just letting him exit.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: And now what I'm seeing with Maljica is he's really catching rhythm.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: So he's able to turn both ways.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's really his jab is what He's got a pretty good jab.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: He keeps his eyes very wide open.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: It just feels like when he throws that right hand, he sometimes gets a little ahead of himself.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go to the 10th round.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes later in the fight, you can see.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so now it looks like Braithwaite's a little blown up, a little bloody.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll punch with you.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's a good fighter.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: He's a good fighter.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: It just feels like In these lower weights,
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: guys get moved to title positions without fully having the skills because of
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: the lack of depth.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: So now let's look at my guy, Suboy, Tumyo, Suboy.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's an amateur fight.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's check it out.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Probably watched this, but maybe I didn't.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's got that little hop, high guard.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's fighting a Kazakhstan fighter.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uzbekistan is the new Cuban.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is real amateur and they're just running into each other.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: They're trying to throw a gazillion punches per round
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: and they're just ending up real close together.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's see.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: So the big thing with Suboy is he loops that right hand.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't throw it straight.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of throws the punch that I think people look for guys to catch Ryan Garcia with.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you're throwing a rock.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: He has a hop step.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: He puts a left hook.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: He kind of reminds me of Dimitri Bivol a little bit.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't have the same skill set,
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: but the way he throws his right hand and his left hook reminds me of Bivol.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't love this fight, so I want to watch a pro fight.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: I want to watch something else.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: That was just an ugly.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let's watch the Quadras fight.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I watched the Quadras fight a while back, but let's go revisit this one.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Film from the crowd.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: Love a good film from the crowd fight.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: So let's see.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a haircut.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: That means he's getting ready to go to war.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Keeps his hands low.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's the first thing I see with Sue Boy.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Keeps his hands low.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: He thinks he's covering his his temple or his chin, but he's exposing his temple.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's all reflexes.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: So something the one up top gang could totally catch him.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: Decent speed.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't say it's great speed.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: Say the big thing with him, yeah, he kind of has that bivol thing.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's his bread and butter.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to hop,
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: he's going to fence you,
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: and he's going to go jab, right hand, and if you hang out, he'll step back.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just really, this is a fencer's game with him.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: So he's going to fence you.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it's going to be Quadris, a little bit older fighter, tough.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's like a guy who's a little older.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to come in, try to make it rough.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have a fencer, and he's like, okay, let me re-engage.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: He's always making you reset, and then he just stops, jab right hand.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: Jab right hand.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: So let's check out the later rounds.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see how he starts to break him down.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so he puts him on the ropes.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: So once the fight gets later,
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: he goes from a fencer to then he starts doing the choppa dance,
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: the dreaded choppa dance.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: And what that is in Oakland boxing was...
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Guys walking guys down.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: They used to call it the choppa dance where it's like,
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm disrespecting your power and I'm just going to walk you down.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: So he's going high guard, you go, I go.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: And he's just trying to beat up the older fighter.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: So he's going high guard right in front of him.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, your shots don't hurt me anymore.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: You can't keep me off.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Quadris holding, which isn't promising.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just a mentally taxing thing to do.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like saying like,
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: When you start walking a guy down and you originally started as a boxer,
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: you're basically just saying you don't have any ways to win.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just a way to break a guy's spirit.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it looks like that's what he was doing.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see the finish right here.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: So Quadris is throwing get off me punches, but there's nothing on him.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: And then he's really starting to load up.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: Really strange.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was a decent stoppage.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: He was wobbled, but it was like one of these where It was more so a mercy stoppage.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: Decent win.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: Case for prospect of the year last year.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see Mojica having enough.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: But if his jab is really, really elite, the fight could be interesting because...
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: That jab, the thing I noticed is Sue Boy's big thing is fencing and timing.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Can you preview Matsumoto versus Acosta Silviero?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: Matsumoto vacated the WBA regular belt.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: To challenge Oscar Colazzo for the full WBA title,
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: we previously covered Matsumoto-Yuni Tanako rematch.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and for my mail bet,
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: for my schedule, I tried to avoid this because I didn't know as much about him.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: So let's see.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Acosta.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Acosta's not in, he's in the green trunks.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Box Azteca.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: I get Box Azteca fights now on YouTube.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: That used to be some of my favorite fights 13 years ago.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'd come home on a Saturday night to watch a box Azteca.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: What are we getting here?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: So Acosta is what you see.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's a puncher and he's going to load up and he's going to just hit you.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: He is a fun, fun fighter.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's just Reckless action.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say he's a lower weight, more reckless David Benavidez.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to stand in front of you.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to punch.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's a fan favorite.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: What you see is what you get.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Really, really fun fighter.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: Not a style meant to age.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: The style that's the opposite of the wine.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: What is he?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a cheese style.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: Cheese goes bad if you expose it.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: So that's his style to me.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's just loading up on shots, big shots.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see Matsumoto, Japanese middleweight, minimum weight.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Jesus.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know who's who.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: I guess he's the Tekken.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I got to do some research here.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: I would assume Matsumoto's the left-hander.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's the left-hander.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: So, let's see.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this could be a real fight,
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: because Matsumoto is obviously more skilled,
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: but it's like, I'm curious to see how he handles pressure.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, in this fight,
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: his dealing with pressure is holding, and that might not be the best strategy for
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: Going forward, got good straight left hands.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting fight.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be watching that one for sure.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's check this out.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: Media workout for Matsuma.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's see what we got.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a little shadow boxing.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: Got the pool noodles.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: Nice short shots.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's fast.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the thing I noticed right away is his distance is a little off.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's a good fighter,
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: but it seems like he kind of,
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: he doesn't fully extend his punches when he's practicing.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see that with the mitts.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he doesn't fully extend them.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: And he kind of loops that left hand.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: He's really, really trying to be as fast as possible.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: He also doesn't move his head as much as I'd like.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: See this?
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: He's doing that.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: When he comes in on his jab left hand on the ropes, his head does not move.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's coming in on the same angle.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Boom.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: His head only moves when he sees a punch.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's not great.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: He's not anticipating punches.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm curious if he's been knocked out.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to do some lukie research because typically guys that do,
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Although he does fight at a lower weight where you can kind of get away
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: with some stuff, but I'm curious if he's been knocked out.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: He has not been knocked out.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: And Yuni Takata did have a style that like should in theory trouble him.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: So this is a really good fight.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's a really good fight because my gut feeling is this might be a little too much for him.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: But, like, I don't know.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Would you make that if you were his handlers?
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Would you put it on this card?
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: So, reckless wild puncher, young,
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: kind of fast-track Japanese rising star who seems to kind
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: of have some defensive flaws with trading it with, like, hand speed.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: Chris Bill Smith's friend and roster mate Lee Cutler versus Lewis Green.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: Let's look at Sam Gilley versus Lewis Green.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I've watched this one.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love the comments saying it looks like two different guys in two different weight classes.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get another one.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go Lewis Green.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go this Sufa Boxing one, August 8th.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: That was a month ago.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Lewis Green.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: So Green, I mean,
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: he's got the Chris Billum Smith, but without kind of some of the natural abilities.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's a guy that brings a crowbar and he's trying to open your front door by prying it open.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: There's not a lot of trickery.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to loop some shots.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: He's got the regional British thing saying, come here, mate.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really tough.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: Look at me.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: Give it a go.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then when the really good guys fight him, he probably gets hit really hard.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, wait, what happened?
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: So he's in there with this fighter.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's just going to break him down.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's just going to do the, I'm tougher than you, go down the front door.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: The guy's all cut up and busted up.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: So he won the fight.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: Physically tough.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: He's there.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: He is what you see.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: Got a third round KO.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: So he's kind of building himself up on these Zufa.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: He's probably a guy that benefits from being on Zufa, right?
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like I wouldn't have really known who he was.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have Lee Cutler.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see what Lee Cutler is.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's also just like a physically strong guy who's got that domestic British thing
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: where he's just like, no real active jab.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: Let me walk you down, fight you on the inside.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_00: He already looks like he's wearing a souvenir and it's the second round.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: Looks like the fight's a 10 rounder in the second round.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's pretty good fight on paper.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: This one slipped my mind.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's a middleweight bout.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's just two guys that run into each other, you know?
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um,
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see Cutler's knockout.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he hit his shoulder, guy goes down.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, personally, I'm probably more a fan of, so far, Louis Green, what Green does.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see the Sam Eggington fight.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: Sam Eggington versus Lee Cutler.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is my type of fight, right?
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: There can only be one Sam Eggington.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: The journeyman of journeymans.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: So...
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's see what... Yeah, I mean, this is your typical Sam Egginton fight.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: They're just fighting on the inside.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's a great fight, back and forth.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean,
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: if you're asking me who would I favor in that fight,
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Luis Green,
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: if you're asking me what type of fight I would expect is two guys running
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: into each other and they're going to talk about the heart and balls and courage
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: and conviction...
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it's probably going to be like that's the level both guys are at, to be honest.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: Can you preview Hot Rod versus Craig Richardson?
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: I would absolutely love to.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about Craig Richardson versus Dan Aziz.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: I remember actually watching this fight.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: It was in Africa.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: It felt like there were a bunch of Africa shows last year.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: And now there aren't.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think that might be a metaphor for where boxing is.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: It just feels like there was more fascinating stuff.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Craig Richards typically is a guy that has a good use of his reach.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's a physically big guy.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: He's able to kind of be elusive.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: His losses,
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: as I said in the newsletter earlier this week,
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: are to really, really good guys, right?
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: And Dana Zees, I think, was a beloved British fighter.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Who now is past his prime,
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: but he always kind of overachieved,
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: earned his spot,
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: and then kind of got some fights on the way out because of what he meant as
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: a fighter to people.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: In this fight, Dan just simply doesn't look like the same fighter he once was.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: And Craig kind of looks like he's in his bag.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: He's able, like typically I think of him as a distance fighter who looks to throw a right hand.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: In this one, he's almost fighting in the mid-range and catching Dan to the body.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: I believe this was a knockout loss, too.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: So let's see.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: Was it?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: I guess it's not.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, to me, this fight was just Dan looked a little slower.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: See, he The thing I'm not loving is late in this fight,
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: Craig is pushing his punches and he's really extending himself.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: So when he stabs with his jab, he's got a good jab, but sometimes he reaches with it.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: And that's been kind of like his death sentence against another tier.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: He can get wild, he can slap.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think that technique sometimes is optional for Craig Richards,
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: but his courage and conviction keeps him in fights.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Let's watch him against Willie Hutchinson.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Remember this being a pretty good fight.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um...
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so here's Craig Richards.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hutchinson is just kind of like a really,
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: really standard... Oh, Hutchinson switched to a southpaw.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: There we go.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: Hutchinson's a very physically strong guy, whereas Craig Richards...
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's interesting here is Hutchinson switched to southpaw in the second round.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: He's kind of running the system on him.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: He's using an active.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's just doing feints on Craig, and Craig can't guess right on the feints.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: So Willie's just doing...
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: By doing feints, he's able to be first.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: So that's something to know is Craig can't really get off first when guys feint him.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_00: And now I'm watching and that's basically what Willie Hutchinson did was just
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: a change in the second round.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, okay, let me feint you.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: And Craig's now just trying to kind of go forward and following him.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: And he's just winning the fight by being able to be active and being first.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: Even throwing some wild sloppy shots at times.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: So Craig Richards, solid fighter, but I think that it's the technique that limits him.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: He's able to win fights,
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: he's able to compete,
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: but it's like at times I'd say his technique is not where it should be,
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: and that kind of is the difference against him in elite level fighters.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go to Hot Rod.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: I remember I was in, I remember being shocked by the outcome of this.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: Hot Rod versus Gavazdick.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: So, let's see.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, Hot Rod versus Gavazdick.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: So, Hot Rod hit the canvas in this fight.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's prone to getting hit.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: Really an interesting career.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: Should have beat Marcus Brown.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: Gets steamrolled by Artur Bedarbiev.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: Rebuilds himself.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: Goes rounds competitive with... With...
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: What's his name?
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: David Murrell.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: Then resurfaces by stopping Gvozdik.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: Gvozdik just absolutely putting it on him.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: Steamrolling him.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think the big thing about Hot Rod is he's able to ride out bad moments and he's very good.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: The closer this fight comes,
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: the more I think Hot Rod's just going to win this because his strength is...
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: He has a really good jab in a right hand.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: And his right hand's better than you'd think.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: And he can keep his punches fairly straight.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_00: And he's got fast hands.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: And Craig Richards tends to slap.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: And his power carries.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: And in this fight,
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_00: it's like later into the fight,
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: he catches Gvozdik in the seventh round with a right hand and drops Gvozdik.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then ends up stopping him for a highlight reel knockout.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's just maybe a different class of fighter because Craig Richards kind
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: of has gotten away with some flawed technique,
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: whereas Hot Rod kind of gets the most out of what he is.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could argue that maybe he has a little bit less than...
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this was an impressive performance for Murrell.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: Murrell came out really fast, wanted to make a statement, and then...
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: We get into like round seven and this is Hot Rod in his bag
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: where Hot Rod's just moving, touching, pivot, angle.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: And he can do that all day.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: And when I was watching that footage, what Hot Rod's doing is a lot of Willie Hutchinson did.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the big thing for Richards is likable figure, British A-side.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's got to get going quick because Hot Rod lives and dies for a slow,
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: methodical paced fight that he can control.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: Can you please assess Luke McCormick?
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: Love to.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's check out Luke McCormick.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: First fight against Garner.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: I always felt that he was the worst of the two brothers.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's everybody I think coming out of the Olympics.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone was so high on Pat McCormick.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows if he'll reach his full potential.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: Feels like very muscle bound in this pro debut.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: It feels like he's really trying to sit on each punch.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: He's not just letting punches fly.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: You can see the inexperience.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's really trying to load up on shots, in my opinion, in this fight.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Little technical things I look at is that he stands too tall,
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: but that tends to be a European thing.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of European fighters stand tall and have more of an amateur.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: Volume based.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think both McCormick brothers kind of suffer from this where they stand tall,
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: but they're looking to load up on power shots.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: I like his active jab, probing jab.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: So Gardner is circling the ring.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see if he has an answer for how to cut off that right side of the ring
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: because he's just letting him exit all the way around the ring.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to give him another minute and we're going to see if he can figure that out.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: So let's see, Gardner, I'm at 152 rounds.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Gardner's just exiting right on him.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's just able to go and turn him in one direction.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure McCormick has a sense of a feeling,
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: but really Gardner's controlling where the feet go in this fight.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a concern I have is that McCormick needs to work on where his feet are
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: to control the range and distance in these fights
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: because he actually isn't controlling the fight.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: He's winning based on hand speed and ability to catch him,
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_00: but Gardner is actually dictating the terms and the range of the fight in
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: the second round.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go further.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: See, this would be very troubling.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: What round is this?
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: Seventh round.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, now Gardner's starting to walk him down.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's tough.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like with Luke McCormick,
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_00: what I'm seeing is a lot of physical toughness,
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_00: but there's just not the boxing IQ to pick up on the situations he's being presented
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: with.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see if it changes.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: And that's it.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's it.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: One more thing we've got here.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, we got some more stuff.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_00: We've talked about boxers at the high end, avoiding matchups and waiting for big paydays.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: What we haven't discussed, what happened to borderline contender boxers?
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: We assumed they were the same, such as Kurt Scooby.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, versus Adam Azim.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: Alan Chavez didn't bring any Southpaws in to spar for Erdson Garcia.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: He sparred one Southpaw's entire camp.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy if that's true.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: Nestor Brazo didn't post on his Instagram from the January Barclays Center event
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: to Pitbull match announcement.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: Did Bravo fight an opponent who spent money to spar against like other fighters?
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: The question here is asking, um,
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Are we going to see an era where fighters maybe don't spend as much money on camp
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: because they want to pocket their purse?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that goes back to my fear of where boxing is going is you're going
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: to hear a popular belief that fighters need to get paid what they're worth based on
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: the market.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that's coming regardless, right?
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's like people are going to get overpaid,
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: but then there's going to be a next era where Those same deals aren't going to be
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: the same.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe a competitor will introduce something,
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_00: but these really lucrative contracts are just kind of one-offs for right now and
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: the here and now.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_00: And they're not going to be viable for the next ones.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: The next type of contracts aren't going to be the same.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe some stellar fighters will get lucrative deals.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's coming.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think the issue is we don't have a healthy sport in the sense
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: of prospects staying active,
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: consistent mid-card contenders being able to work themselves up the card,
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: prospects being able to move to a main card,
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: and quality main event fighters being able to take a stay-busy fight if they wanted
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: to.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: That is all but gone right now.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: So let's see what we got here.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's a YouTube link.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: We got Marco Verde Amateur Tournament.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: So let me see if this is all Marco Verde because I've watched a lot of Marco Verde.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: Is this Marco Verde?
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is another.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_00: This is the guy that fought Verde.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Murtijayev.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm going to assume,
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: and that's terrible of me,
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: that he's a Uzbek fighter because he's not sitting down on anything.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to skip that one this week.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't have the energy for that type of guy where it's just like
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: the Uzbek super is like watching Cuban boxing.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're looking at Ben Whitaker.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let me see this because I didn't see any text to go along with these.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: These are just like YouTube fights.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to push.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm either going to push the Louis Richardson film study to either Friday.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'll do a paywall podcast or I'll do those next week.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of running out of steam this week.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: I love you guys a lot.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: Just kind of ran out of steam towards the end of the show today.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: Keep sending questions.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely love it.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_00: Once a week podcast brought to you by you.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you.