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- 0:00Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode
- 0:04number forty of the so called sports analysts. Josh, how you doing,
- 0:09I'm doing good. We saw Cody Rains beat Roman Cody Rains. We watched
- 0:14Cody Rhodes beat Roman Reigns to win the undisputed World Championship in WWE. I
- 0:20saw the Spurs go to double overtiming a good gamers the seventy six years.
- 0:24I understand we lost, but it was still a great game to go too.
- 0:27And then me and Fonso had a crazy experience at Hooters. It was
- 0:31it was weird. You know, a lot happened, kind of Yeah,
- 0:36I got free food though, so I'm good. Well, but you know,
- 0:41other than that, we'll get into that game here in a second.
- 0:44So yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll get into it in a second.
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- 1:21likes sports. But let's go in and get into this game in which it's
- 1:25the NCAA Men's Basketball Championship, which it featured Yukon and Purdue. Yukon won
- 1:30seventy five to sixty and they're the first team to win back to back since
- 1:36two thousand and six two thousand and seven seven floor to team. So,
- 1:41Josh, anything you took away from this game right here, this was just
- 1:45a good Honestly, this was just mainly they just played their starters pretty much
- 1:51the entire basketball game and this one, and it was just good team basketball
- 1:55all the way around. Between the five of them. It really showed that
- 1:57they came in with the plan and they they were the more experienced team when
- 2:00it came to championship basketball, and then it's came in with more of aggressiveness
- 2:04and that's why they won. Yeah, and they just have one of the
- 2:08most prolific offenses out there. I think this is the closest we've seen to
- 2:15NBA offense in a while in college basketball, not as far as talent wise,
- 2:20just as far as how the offense is run. It looks very similar.
- 2:23And that's why I think it's just it's so hard to stop. And
- 2:28a quick start I want to give to you here, Josh, is so
- 2:31since the NCAA Championship last year, before they won the championship, from the
- 2:37start of that till now till they won this championship, they've been beating a
- 2:40team by an average of twenty two points per game. That's how dominant they've
- 2:45been. And just a question for you, Josh, do you think it's
- 2:49up there as far as some of the most historic dominant college basketball runs in
- 2:55a while, because the last one was Florida would have to be. I
- 3:00think you went back to back championships in the NAA. That's kind of a
- 3:04hard thing to do. We see so many teams win one and don't win
- 3:07one for a while. Hell, even John Caliperry, he only has one
- 3:10national title I think in his whole and now he's in Arkansas. So and
- 3:15you look at the amount of great players he's had on his teams. Look
- 3:17at the amount of great players Duke has had on their teams North Carolina,
- 3:22then Zaga, Villanova, and Yukon's been able to do it back to back.
- 3:25So I think it just shows the real dominance. And honestly, I
- 3:30think college basketball for men's is changing a little bit more. It's going back
- 3:36to a team oriented basketball instead of star led teams, because we're starting to
- 3:40see a team like Yukon and Purdue even who had players that stayed multiple years,
- 3:46and they're the team that are in the championships. Yeah, and I
- 3:51think it's good it kind of I know there's nil deals, so it helps
- 3:55players stay in college, but as far as just winning the championship that that's
- 4:00what helps the most. You keep these players back, is it. Zach
- 4:03Edy? Yeah, Zach Dy is a senior. No, but he's not
- 4:09getting any nil money, really, I think so. I thought I think
- 4:14I saw something about let me search it up real quick, don't quote me.
- 4:17Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah no. But speaking of Zach Edy,
- 4:20he did have a damn good game thirty seven points, ten rebounds, fifteen
- 4:26for twenty five from the field. But just just in my opinion here,
- 4:30Josh, even though it looks great on the box score, as far as
- 4:36I know a lot of people they're not going to agree with this. But
- 4:39he's not gonna make this or he's not gonna make it in the NBA.
- 4:43He's not. He's very he's a very limited player. Go ahead, Josh,
- 4:46did you find it before I go in and on and agree with you?
- 4:49Here it says zach Edy is a Canadian and attending Purdue on an F
- 4:54one visas, so he isn't legally allowed to capitalize on any on nio.
- 4:58Oh well, in soil, he says he hopes that he can change for
- 5:02future international college athletes. Damn so, he's not getting any inn I owe
- 5:08money from this. Damn well, hopefully he gets drapped to the Raptors,
- 5:18no sharks, Oh my bad. But speaking of that, let's stay on
- 5:25that. As far as zach Edy, as far as it's very mixed,
- 5:30as far as people they think, like Colin Coward he should be a top
- 5:32fifteen pick, or there's people on my stance where I don't think he's going
- 5:36to be that good. Where do you stand on that? Josh? Uh?
- 5:41When I was got done with my swim this morning and I was getting
- 5:45ready take after I got out the shower getting ready, I heard Colin Coward
- 5:47over my head over on the TV above my head talking about Zach Edie's the
- 5:53top fifteen pick, that how this draft is the worst of all time.
- 5:56I don't know how when there was an Anthony Bennett leg draft, but it's
- 6:00gonna be. Yeah, this is gonna be the worst draft. So there's
- 6:03no reason why Zach dy shouldn't be a top fifteen pick when he's dominating.
- 6:08And his whole stance was that every team is the same, that they use
- 6:11all the same an analytics, that's why all teams play the same, that
- 6:14there's no true big men in the NBA anymore. That it's just that if
- 6:16Zach edy were to come in, he would be a great player, and
- 6:19that he's shown it, but it's just not the case when you watch him
- 6:23play basketball. I don't know what games Colin Cowherd is watching, but sure
- 6:27he's dominating college basketball. We've seen many great players in college basketball not make
- 6:31it in the NBA, and this is I think this will be the same
- 6:34case with Zach Edie because when you watch him play, he goes to the
- 6:38same hook shot in the middle of the paint every single time. He's not
- 6:43very great defensively, he's not a good perimeter defender. He doesn't move fast
- 6:46enough. And then he just he doesn't have no left hand. Like we
- 6:51will harp on Jaylen Brown not having a left hand. No, this is
- 6:54a real not having a left hand. He shoots with two hands, going
- 6:57with his left. I just don't see it happening while making NBA. And
- 7:00lets think he's gonna have to play more athletic, better oriented defenders and offensive
- 7:04players and Nikola Jokics, Victory and Binyama Joel Embiid, even Karl Anthony Towns
- 7:11when healthy, he's gonna have to play these guys who have been in the
- 7:14NBA longer and who have a who have much higher skill sets than him.
- 7:19So I just don't think. I just don't see him making it in the
- 7:23NBA. Like, not not to be disrespectful here, but he get cooked
- 7:28by DeAndre Aiden and DeAndre Aiden he is he's not viewed as one of the
- 7:32better. Way he's a solid player. Yeah, he's a solid player.
- 7:36Like, okay, I'm trying to think of that. He just don't got
- 7:41that dog in him. He's just I think he's a solid player. Yeah,
- 7:46no, okay, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.
- 7:47Like if you were put DeAndre and I think next to another a big
- 7:50that's more dominant than him, I think he would have a better role right
- 7:55there. Do you think so? Yeah, Like, I just don't.
- 7:58I don't think he's what he was planned to be as the main guy.
- 8:01He's not that. Like he's a he's a fourth guy on it. I
- 8:05mean, the Suns made it to a championship with him as the fourth option,
- 8:07so he's a third option. So you know, he's a solid player
- 8:11in the NBA. He's not this dominating big. And I don't think Zach
- 8:13he's even close to the level of DeAndre aiden, Yeah, exactly. But
- 8:18let's go ahead and move on to women's basketball right here. The Women's Basketball
- 8:22Championship, in which it featured South Carolina and Iowa, in which South Carolina
- 8:28they won eighty seven to seventy five, and they're the tenth team and women's
- 8:33NCAA Division One basketball to go undefeated. Six of those times were Yukon,
- 8:39which is crazy, then Baylor, Tennessee, Texas, and obviously South Carolina.
- 8:43Now, but Josh, was there anything that you specifically took away from
- 8:48this game? This was just South Carolina having more of a dominating paint presence,
- 8:56dominating the boards. They had fifty one rebounds compared to Iowa's twenty nine.
- 9:00And then it really comes down to Camilla Cordoso just really dominating the paint.
- 9:03She didn't allow anyone to do anything. She had seventeen rebounds and three
- 9:07blocks along with fifteen points. It really and then the defense was just stifling
- 9:13the entire game. They switched bodies on and off of Kaitlyn Clark this entire
- 9:16game, going from Malaysia for Wili, then putting on Johnson onto her,
- 9:24just following or shadowing her the entire game and not letting her breathe. And
- 9:26we saw that strategy with Yukon. It worked to an extent, it didn't
- 9:30work completely, but South Carolina just has better, I believe, just better
- 9:33players, pure basketball players than Yukon, and it just showed in this game.
- 9:39They Iowa couldn't get to their spots when it came to the mid age
- 9:43or even the paint. They had to settle for a lot of terrible threes.
- 9:46Going down for twenty three came the Clark went ten for twenty eight in
- 9:48this game. They were they were just flustered the entire game, forcing a
- 9:52lot of shots. Gabby Marshall couldn't even get to her spot, Kate Martin
- 9:56couldn't even work the paint like or work the mid range to the paint like
- 9:58she usually does. So South Carolina really just dominated this game defensively and that
- 10:03was the difference, I believe, and also having great offense coming off the
- 10:05bench with Tessa Johnson and Long with their starting five. Yeah, they're freshmen
- 10:11for South Carolina. That's what really stood out there because if I'm not mistaken,
- 10:16Iowa, they got up to thirteen to two lead and it looked like
- 10:20Kayla Clark was about to start cooking everybody with eighteen points in the first quarter.
- 10:26So it didn't look at as good for a South Carolina at first.
- 10:30But that's just a good adjustment by Don Staley. But speaking of her the
- 10:33past three years, she has one hundred and nine and three record and two
- 10:39championships, so she's reaching. I can't think of his name from Yukon the
- 10:45basket women's basketball coach from Yukon, Gino. I can't think of his in
- 10:48Gena Arima. Yeah, Arioma's she's not at that level. But she's definitely
- 10:54reaching that status right there with this crazy three year stretch. And it was
- 11:00Kaitlyn Clark that took her out last year, so maybe it would be it
- 11:03would be three championships in a row, that's how dominant she's been. But
- 11:09speaking of Kaitlyn Clark, as far as just how much of a pool she's
- 11:13brought to women's basketball just in general, and what she's going to bring to
- 11:16the WNBA. So just some quick things right here, in the championship game,
- 11:22eighteen point seven million viewers mark the biggest TV TV churnout for women's basketball
- 11:30and the biggest just basketball churnout since twenty nineteen. So that's just crazy right
- 11:37there, how much she has a pool. And also another thing I want
- 11:41to ask her, as far as there's been some people talking, some WNBA
- 11:46players talking about Kaitlyn Clark, as far as Adana Start, Diana Old is
- 11:54she just retired, yeah, Diana Tarassi, yeah, or whatever? But
- 12:01how do you feel about that? Do you feel that it's a mixture of
- 12:05hating or or reality for her, it's a reality, it's a mixture of
- 12:11both. Because I think these w NBA players are realizing she's bringing in.
- 12:15I'm gonna be honest, I didn't watch the last person I watched play basketball
- 12:18for real. That was a woman, was my More. And that was
- 12:22ten years ago, twelve years ago, not even probably fourteen years ago that
- 12:26I watched a women's basketball game. You're in it. Yeah, I was
- 12:31like eight years old when I watched Maya More play basketball. And because she
- 12:35was the last person I believe since Kaylyn Clark who really like captivated audiences to
- 12:39go watch a women's basketball game. And now we're looking at Kaylyn Clark,
- 12:43who's just a media sensation. She plays like a Stephan Curry, if a
- 12:50Stephan Curry in women form in and like that's gonna gravitate people who love to
- 12:54see people just shoot threes and at efficient rate. I understand she had any
- 12:58fishing game in this one, but I just think it's really coming out of
- 13:01pure jealousy from those players because they're just not bringing in the attention. She's
- 13:05immediately going to be the most polarizing player in the w NBA the second she
- 13:09steps onto the court, and I think they're intimidated by that. Yeah,
- 13:13they definitely are, but it's also bringing attention. I feel like this draft
- 13:16class. It's gonna change a lot for the w NBA because obviously you have
- 13:20Kayla rees on the flip Kling Clark, Angel Reese, and then you have
- 13:24Camala Cardoso Awestily also Rakia Jackson from Tennessee. So you have these game changing
- 13:33people going into the w NBA, and I feel like all of them,
- 13:37let alone Kaylin Clark, who's the biggest star of them all, are all
- 13:41getting are getting hate. So it's just it just sucks to see. But
- 13:45I'm not gonna lie. I want to tune into the first w NBA game
- 13:50of Kayln Clark and I would I just don't want to get Clark Jersey.
- 13:52I'm not even gonna lie from that. Good. Well, So the Indiana
- 13:56Fever, they have the number one overall pick. So dude, why is
- 14:01this like a Larry Bird reincarnated going to go play. He's going to Indiana
- 14:05and from She's just this is funny. No, but she's just I just
- 14:11think it comes out of pure jealousy from these stars that they're like, what
- 14:16did Brianna Stewart say? And your dad says he's gonna hate on it when
- 14:20he hears this. Yes, Stat's don't make you the go. Stat's don't
- 14:22make you the got, well damn it. If Kaitlyn Clark stats don't make
- 14:24her the go, I don't know what it doesn't make her go. When
- 14:28it comes to women's college basketball. The only person I'm arguing with her is
- 14:31Maya Moore. That's the only person I'm arguing against her, because anyone else
- 14:35they just didn't dominate the way that she dominated college basketball. And she,
- 14:39like like I mentioned, and like you kind of mentioned, she has a
- 14:41pool to the game where people want to watch. So the highest So the
- 14:46three highest women's college basketball games ever watch, So this championship game eighteen point
- 14:52seven million views. Then the next one is fourteen point two million views Yukon
- 14:56versus Iowa. The third highest is twelve point three million views LSU and Iowa.
- 15:03And that should just show you right there, all of those feature Iowa
- 15:05and let alone Kaitlin Clark. So she's she's gonna bring a lot more fans
- 15:11to the WNBA. And if anything, like I'm not trying to say Lebron
- 15:16Jordan, but people they say Jordan he made everybody watch or he had this
- 15:22influence on everybody. That's the same way Kaitlin Clark's doing. Am I trying
- 15:26to compare the two? Hell, no, I'm not. But as far
- 15:28as for WNBA, that's exactly what she's doing. And I don't know if
- 15:31you agree, No, I agree. I agree that WNBA is about to
- 15:37make a spike in money once once she steps on the court, even when
- 15:39Angel resteps on the court, it's about to be it's about to be a
- 15:43different a different league after that. Oh yeah, be grateful. But anything
- 15:50else you want to talk about before we get into NBA news right here?
- 15:54Now we can. We can shake it and bake it and keep it moving,
- 15:58all right, Yes, sir, let's keep it moving. Or actually,
- 16:00so this this is technically NBA news, but I guess we could kind
- 16:04of consider it college. So the first thing right here that happened over the
- 16:08week is lebron James Junior or Bronnie. He entered the transfer portal and declared
- 16:15for the draft to keep his options open so he could return back to college
- 16:19or go to the NBA. How do you feel about this one right here,
- 16:22Josh? Do you think it's smart? I don't. I think it's
- 16:27probably smart due to the fact that USC team USC's team had a lot of
- 16:33hype coming into the season. They just didn't move up to it, especially
- 16:36injuries caught up to them. But also so I do think him probably switching
- 16:41to a different environment to kind of get his feedback underneath him would help him
- 16:44out tremendously. I don't know where he has I don't know who still has
- 16:47interest in Bronnie James and if there's any really big schools of blue blood or
- 16:52even like just a major power five school that still has interest in him based
- 16:56off his season. He showed great signs defensively, I will say that he
- 17:00did show great signs playing defense. His offensive game has a lot to be
- 17:04has. He has a lot left on the bone. I'm gonna say,
- 17:07if we're gonna like nitpick his offensive game, we saw flashes, but other
- 17:11than that, he really didn't show a lot. And I don't know if
- 17:14it was him missing training due to his do to the heart condition he developed,
- 17:18the developed in the offseason and he really kind of rushed his way back
- 17:22into the to the fold to play this his his freshman season at USC,
- 17:27but declaring for the draft, I don't know, it's it's just kind of
- 17:33it's just kind of too soon. For me, I think you have to
- 17:36do a little bit more time. I don't think he's ready for the NBA.
- 17:38I don't think he's anywhere close to being ready for the NBA. These
- 17:41are and he's gonna have a target on his back once he stepped onto an
- 17:45NBA court because of who he is, and I think he has to develop
- 17:48a little bit more before he makes that jump. Okay, So I'm gonna
- 17:52say this. I feel like, I don't know if you kind of heard
- 17:56alf Alfred and I talking about it yesterday at at Hooters. But as far
- 18:02as Brownie James, he doesn't have a college game, he has the NBA
- 18:06game. He fits the NBA game. And as far as him being a
- 18:08defender, he's already up there. I say, offensively, no, no
- 18:12way. Like you said, I agree with you one hundred percent. But
- 18:15I think I'm not saying he's going to be a PJ. Tucker. Oh
- 18:19he's a good passer too. Yeah he's a good passer. Yeah he's he's
- 18:22a good pastor. And I feel like that that could be a good role
- 18:26player here. I'm not over here trying to say this dude is gonna average
- 18:30twenty eight points a game or whatever. I don't think that it's hard to
- 18:36surpass what your father is doing, who's arguably one of the greatest, or
- 18:40actually the greatest. I'm standing on business here. He won't live up to
- 18:41that. There's no comparison. Okay, I know this is kind of off
- 18:48topic, but do you think or have you thought about this? Has there
- 18:52ever been a son that's outlived their father as far as athlete wise, not
- 18:56even including NBA, like football, baseball, Kim Griffy. That's that's only
- 19:03two Patrick Mahomes. But I'm talking about the same same sport, same sport.
- 19:12Yeah, King Griffy, Stephen Curry or Kobe Kobe Oh yeah, Kobe
- 19:23uh Britton Berry never Rick Berry is still probably better than Thompson, his dad,
- 19:27Michael Thompson. Clay Thompson over Michael Thompson. Yeah, that's a good
- 19:33one. I don't think there's any Manning, Eli Manning. Oh, yeah,
- 19:38that that's true. That's true. I don't think there's that many else.
- 19:45Clay Matthews, Oh yeah, Clay Matthews. But his unchaele was Bruce
- 19:52Matthews. So I don't know if that mm hmmm. I don't know if
- 19:56that counts because Bruce Matthews, but Clay Matthews was a dog also, So
- 20:03there's not very many. It's what we're doing. There's not very many.
- 20:06Yeah, no, there's there's not many. So it's gonna be hard to
- 20:08overcome. But next thing right here is Kyrie Irving and Chris stops Porzingis were
- 20:15named players Players till the Weeks to Mahomes. No, that was good.
- 20:33That was that was good right there? That was good. No, But
- 20:37yeah, Kyrie and Chris stops Porzingis were named Players of the Week here.
- 20:42So these are two teams that they're obviously in the playoffs, and both of
- 20:49these their role players in their own way, maybe more than others, they're
- 20:52more important. But how important do you think it is for both of these
- 20:56guys to be playing playing this well going into the playoffs stretch for the for
- 21:03the Boston Celtics, it's extremely important. I believe christophs Persingas will be playing
- 21:08this well going into the playoffs only because they've never really had well. I
- 21:11guess Al Horford, but Al Horford is not the same offensive player that christolphs
- 21:17Persingis is. He may be a little bit better of a defender, but
- 21:18he's not the same pure offensive player that christophs Persingis is. And if christolphs
- 21:22Persingis is playing at this level going into the playoffs, I think the Celtics
- 21:26are going to be really scary going going through the playoffs, because sure they
- 21:30have the they have the defense, they have the stars with Jason Tatum and
- 21:33Jeland Brown, with any of that extra guy that could make shots, and
- 21:36I think christophs Persinas can be that guy for them, so he keeps this
- 21:38up. I think that's gonna be bigger than Kyrie being for the MAVs in
- 21:41my opinion. Mm hmm. Oh well that's interesting right there. But all
- 21:45right, that's on. I just think because Luca can make up ground on
- 21:49his own, like we've seen it before, it's gonna be difficult because he's
- 21:53gonna overdo it for sure. Yeah, but Kyrie can have an I don't
- 21:57know, because the Resultics don't really have an interior presence outside of Christoptin.
- 22:03He's not that greatue interior wise, what do you mean they have Xavier Tillman.
- 22:08Man, my bad. Now, but let's go to move on to
- 22:15this next one, in which Julius Randall is officially going undergoing season anding surgery
- 22:19injury and his torn labrum, so I know he hasn't played in a long
- 22:26time, But how big is this loss for the Knicks. I believe that
- 22:30they've kind of adjusted to what they wanted to do so far for the rest
- 22:34of the season without him, so I do think they've made up ground.
- 22:37I think the biggest thing is getting og back healthy and the Mitchell Robinson back
- 22:42healthy, because that those would go a long way for them going in.
- 22:47And the way that Jallen Brunston's playing right now at an MVP level. I'm
- 22:49not saying he's gonna win MVP, but he's at an MVP level right now.
- 22:56He can if they keep this up. I still have my doubts.
- 22:59We've wait. Last episode we went on Nicks possibly won't win. So I
- 23:03really think that if you want to answer to this question, just go listen
- 23:07to the Yeah, go listen to the next pot. Yeah. But I
- 23:10do think it's a big hit, but they it's enough times where they should
- 23:12have adjusted already, and they look they probably have. Yeah. I think
- 23:17it just affects the Knicks long term or not long term as far as championship
- 23:22aspirations. That's where it affects them because not that they had this great chance,
- 23:27but the little chance they had is Julius Reynald coming back. And because
- 23:32that's twenty points per game, that takes some pressure off of Jalen Brunson.
- 23:37But obviously he's not coming back. But they could still be a good playoff
- 23:40team. But all right, next topic here, Malachi Flynn from the Detroit
- 23:45Pistons goes for fifty points. Only there's only been three players in NBA history
- 23:52to score fifty points as a reserve nineteen ninety three Nick Anderson. Oh,
- 23:56and then the last one. Can you guess the last Ross with the Terrence
- 24:00Ross. No, he will start in that game. Dang, I thought
- 24:04it was there's one more Okay, I'll give you one more hit twenty nineteen.
- 24:14He was a reserve. He was he was a reserve guard two guard.
- 24:19Oh, Arre Rose, No, he'll start in that game. He
- 24:23was starting, Okay, go Jamal Crawford Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 24:30that's cool. Yeah. I had two good guesses though, Derek Rose
- 24:33educated guesses. Yeah, No, those were good guesses right there. But
- 24:38yeah, so obviously you have people late in the year they start going for
- 24:44a crazy amount of points. But we're not going to get into Malachi Flynn
- 24:48debate here, but just shout out to Malachi Flynn for dropping fifty points.
- 24:52But all right, next one right here is Steve Clifford, the head or
- 24:56the head coach for the Hornets, is expected to step down and go into
- 25:00the front office, which means the Hornets are going to be looking for a
- 25:03head coach. Do you have any suggestions they think they should go for a
- 25:08head coach? Or why is he going to the front office for they suck?
- 25:12Like what what? What is he going to offer to them to make
- 25:15them better? They've already brought fired him and brought him back because they couldn't
- 25:19get a replacement. Why is he going to the front This is why the
- 25:22Hornets are the Hornets. They just don't want to get rid of people that
- 25:25that bring them down. You know, I wonder who owns the team?
- 25:29Well, yeah, you're right. He's trying to sell them too so he
- 25:33can get his name out of it. Yeah. You know they always say
- 25:36the shoes that helps is kind of kind of living good. Huh. Lebron
- 25:41as a team a sports owner is doing pretty well for himself. I'd say
- 25:45so. Yeah, I would say so with Liverpool. Yeah. But all
- 25:49right, but who and the Red Sox. He owns a part of the
- 25:53Red Sox? Yeah, I think he does. Really, I did not
- 25:59know that. Oh shoot, oh okay, well I don't. I don't
- 26:04know many head coach hirings or people that are gonna be on the market this
- 26:08year. I don't know if you have any Alvin Gentry. All right,
- 26:18yeah, let's let's move on to the Let's move on to the next topic
- 26:22here, let's move on to the next topic. But all right, so
- 26:27if y'all, if y'all, if y'are avid listeners, y'all know what we're
- 26:30talking about. But all right, so just a side story. I don't
- 26:37want to get much into this because it goes into the games of the week,
- 26:40But both the Clippers and MAVs come back in their victories, one by
- 26:44twenty six and one by twenty two. So the Clippers, they had their
- 26:48largest comeback in Clippers history twenty six points against the Calves. So do you
- 26:55do you have Okay, I'm I'm gonna throw this suggestion at you for this.
- 27:00I wanted to bring this up for a specific reason. I feel like,
- 27:03no lead is safe now because the way people are able to shoot the
- 27:07three compared to back then in the nineties and two thousands, you could be
- 27:12up ten and people will be like, oh, that's a blowout, that's
- 27:15game over. So it just shows how much it's changed, and no lead
- 27:22it's safe because of Steph Curry. Yeah, I've seen the Spurs give up
- 27:27like probably twenty plus fifteen point leads this year, so I truly understand where
- 27:32this is coming from. But all right, this next one right here,
- 27:41this is kind of important here. So three teams within one spot in the
- 27:47West that hasn't happened in the final week in either conference in sixteen years,
- 27:52and this has only happened eight times. So does this show to how good
- 27:57the lead league is becoming? Or do you think this is just a rare
- 28:03circumstance here. No, I think it's showing how good the league is actually
- 28:07becoming. Like outside the made super teams, all these other teams are pretty
- 28:11much built from the ground up. It's showing that the just showing the the
- 28:18talent there is in the NBA today. There's just stars everywhere you look,
- 28:21even on the bad teams. There's a super there's someone brewing that's either on
- 28:23their way or who is a superstar just needing players around them. And that's
- 28:29pretty cool to see because it just leads. It's just gonna when the old
- 28:33guys go out like like the like pretty much the whole Clippers team, or
- 28:37when Steph and Clay decide are their days are past them? I don't know
- 28:41about Steph, but Clay his days are looking behind them. Draymond a little
- 28:44bit. We're gonna see, We're gonna see some of we're gonna see some
- 28:48of these younger guys take over. And it's good to see that the league
- 28:51is in good hands moving forward because with these teams that we're talking about,
- 28:53you have Anthony Edwards, you have Yeah, you have Anthony Edwards, you
- 28:57have kids, Jamalmore. Even the whole Thunder team is an average of like
- 29:04twenty two years old. So it just shows that even the Mavericks who are
- 29:11two games behind the Clippers, and the Clippers have fifty wins, it's Luca,
- 29:15It's yeah, Luka. Dawnchis on that team. So the league is
- 29:18in great hands moving forward, and I think it's cool that we're going to
- 29:22be in this era of basketball yeah, no, definitely, And so we
- 29:26talked about the West a little bit here, but in the Eastern Conference,
- 29:30just one and a half games separate the two seed from the five seed,
- 29:34and the last time this happened going into the last week of the season,
- 29:37it was nineteen seventy nine. So I know we talked about the West as
- 29:41far as they're the talent gap there, it's getting close. What do you
- 29:48think this says about the East here? Does it say the exact same thing
- 29:51or does it say it's the much weaker conference here? It definitely is weaker
- 29:59on the standpoint of how these teams play. I think with the Cavs,
- 30:03the Pacers, and the Magic, it's more team oriented basketball instead of leaning
- 30:07on your stars and your role players filling the gaps outside of them. The
- 30:11only team within there is the Knicks, who rely on Jalen Brunson completely and
- 30:17the Bucks who rely pretty much on Damon Joannis for everything. So I do
- 30:22think there's a difference in the style of play, but it's still great teams
- 30:25with good players on that are able to push these teams forward. I do
- 30:30think the West is tougher, but it's kind of the same on the flip
- 30:33side that we're just in great hands right now. You look at the players
- 30:37on this team, Evian Mobiley, Darius Garland, Franz Wagner, Paulo Bnchero,
- 30:41Jalen Suggs, Tyrese Halliburn with the Pacers, it's just yeah, it's
- 30:45just the same thing moving forward along in the east. Also yeah, okay,
- 30:51and then next thing right here, there's been reports that Kawhi has Nie
- 30:56Swellen. He has at the past three to four games. I'm not exactly
- 31:02sure if well, if we include tonight's game, it's going to be four
- 31:06games that he's missed. But he's missed the past four games. But they
- 31:10said it's nothing too serious. If the playoffs would have started today, he
- 31:14would be playing. So how big is this for the Clippers. I've heard
- 31:18it's not too serious since like twenty sixteen, So I'm so it's pretty big.
- 31:27He's bound to get injured. No, he's he ruined. Well,
- 31:30no, we have wouldn't be Now I'm not angry anymore, So thank you
- 31:36for a sacrifice. He was a sacrifice, but he was being a little
- 31:40I'm not even going to get into my emotions right now, not being into
- 31:44my emotions right now over if there is a purge, just know who my
- 31:48first target is. Just know who my first target is. That's crazy.
- 31:55But for as far as I think that's a big law, it's gonna be
- 32:00if he if his knee doesn't get better, which history tells it's probably not
- 32:05gonna get better no matter what they say. It's a big loss for the
- 32:07Clippers, and they won't move advanced. They won't there's another year where the
- 32:10Clippers have high hopes, high aspirations. They don't make the Eastern the Western
- 32:14Conference finals. I think that's gonna be another year and it's gonna have to
- 32:17be a rebuild. It's gonna have I don't know how you keep moving on
- 32:20with these older players and trading away draft capital and and even trading away stars
- 32:24that you have on your bench to keep bringing older veterans to keep pushing forward.
- 32:30You're gonna have to, and especially going into a new stadium, you're
- 32:32gonna have to have new faces, new stars, people to keep it moving,
- 32:37keep the ticket sales up. And that's what the Clippers are just gonna
- 32:39have to do. They're gonna have to, I think, honestly, if
- 32:42this is not the year or we're gonna wait another year for these guys to
- 32:45keep getting injured and finishing the same spot they were the year before. It's
- 32:49just that's just that for me. Yeah, no, it's true. But
- 32:52if Kawai you want to come back to the Spurs and play alongside people,
- 32:55I will gladly accept you back. Oh you'll you'll return him open arms,
- 33:00But yes I will. But we're not going to talk about this game tonight.
- 33:05But the Clippers and Sons they're playing each other right now and the score
- 33:07is thirty seven to seven at the end of the first quarter, so it
- 33:12looks like they're not missing Kawhi that much. And then off top right here,
- 33:16off topic, do you like the Clippers jerseys and the new logo that
- 33:21they have? Is it the one with the boat? Yeah? Yeah,
- 33:27yeah, yeah yeah yeah No, it makes no sense to me. I
- 33:32still don't even know why they're Clippers, Like why, what? What's a
- 33:36Clipper? I don't know what's the Laker? What is it? What is
- 33:42it los Angeles? Team names have to do with Los Angeles, like the
- 33:45Lakers. There's no lakes in Los Angeles. I know that they came from
- 33:50Indianapolis and the Great Lakes, like, yeah, they didn't have the better
- 33:52marketing strategy, like like, well, like the Lakers. Oh no,
- 33:58they weren't iconic yet. No no, no, yeah, no, they
- 34:00weren't iconic yet. I have the Clippers. Why did they keep the name
- 34:04from San Diego? Like they didn't want to change their name when they went
- 34:07to Los Angeles? Like it seems like very lazy marketing to me. Even
- 34:13the Lakers are like probably one of the most famous. I'd say that's one
- 34:15of the most iconic teams. But yeah, all right, next thing right
- 34:20here, the Philadelphia seventy six Ers has has the easiest remaining schedule of all
- 34:25the playoff teams left with the teams they they're playing with an average of thirty
- 34:31eight percent winning percentage compared to the Bucks, who have the most difficult schedule
- 34:37remaining, with the average winning percentage of sixty seven percent. So how big
- 34:43do you think this is for the Sixers here? Would you allenbid coming back?
- 34:47I think it's extremely big, especially escaping the Spurs that like they did
- 34:52on the other night on Sunday. So I think they went a couple in
- 34:57either the Pacers, Cavaliers, Nick's Magic or Bucks lose two or one.
- 35:00I think they're gonna be right back in the where they don't even have to
- 35:01play in the plane. And Joelnbie came in right at the right time.
- 35:07Yeah, and we're not gonna get into standings that much, but just this
- 35:10last thing right here, So we're not gonna go over Tuesday's games, but
- 35:15there's some marquee games that are coming up throughout this week since it's the last
- 35:19week of the season. So on Wednesday you have the Maths versus the Heat,
- 35:22the Magic versus the Bucks, Wolves versus Nuggets, Suns versus Clippers.
- 35:28Then Thursday you have Kings versus Celtics and Pelicans. Wait I wrote the Kings
- 35:32twice, and then on Friday the Pelicans and Kings. So there's some marquee
- 35:37matchups coming up. So okay, Magic and Bucks. As far as this
- 35:44one right here, just I know we don't do predictions for NBA. We
- 35:47probably should start doing it, but I think this is gonna be real interesting
- 35:52right here, Like how you were talking about, it's so close, so
- 35:55the Magic they could make a real good push for that second seed right there,
- 36:00and all of these games they are important coming down the stretch, So
- 36:02do you want the second seed? I don't think so yo, or maybe
- 36:07I don't know. Well, all right, well yeah you would probably you
- 36:12would probably want the second seed because if the Sixers somehow jump up to the
- 36:15sixth, to the sixth seed, then they played the third seed. Yeah
- 36:20right, they're only Yeah, yeah, if the Sixers stay, stay in
- 36:24the play in and you have to play the Sixers at the seventh and you're
- 36:29either the Bucks or the Magic, that's just something I wouldn't want to do.
- 36:31Yeah, that's true. Well, since since we're kind of mentioning it,
- 36:35let's go ahead and get into the NBA standings here in which every single
- 36:40team it's official as far as with the play in and playoffs. It's just
- 36:45all about seeding now. And we're gonna go over this Eastern Conference first,
- 36:49which the Boston Celtics they clinched to one seed, the Bucks and and you
- 36:58didn't make the playoffs. How was that? The Bucks have the two seeds,
- 37:04the Magic have the three seed, Nicks, four seed, Calves,
- 37:07five seed, Pacers, six seed, seventy six or seven seed Heat eight
- 37:13seed. The Bulls are the nine seed and the Hawks are the ten seed
- 37:15to play it out. So the play in as far as between the Bulls
- 37:19and Hawks, they're officially clinched right there. But let's go over as far
- 37:23as where it gets really interesting, all the way from three to eight here.
- 37:29So where do you see this falling? Right here? Josh? Do
- 37:31you have any predictions where you think this is going to go? All right?
- 37:36Based off my expertise, boys, put this in your bets right now.
- 37:40Knicks will be the third seed, Matt Calves will be the fourth seed,
- 37:47the Magic will be the fifth seed, the seventy six Ers will be
- 37:52the sixth seed, and the Pacers will be the seventh seed, and the
- 37:55Heat will stay the eighth seed. That's my prediction right there. Okay,
- 38:00okay, I like that prediction. And man, as far as from the
- 38:07play in and then this and the six and five right here, there's only
- 38:12a game game and a half difference right here between the Cavs Pacers, So
- 38:16it's I think that the pace or not the Pacers the Sixers could get all
- 38:22the way up to the five seed now, and that's not even crazy,
- 38:25it's not But okay, I want to ask this question. So Joel Ebi,
- 38:30he hasn't played. It was over three months don't you think it's better
- 38:36that they should be in the play in so we could get more rust off
- 38:38instead of getting more rest. No, I think a guarantee playoff spot is
- 38:44better than no guarantee playoffs. But mm hmm, I think, okay,
- 38:49say, if it stays how it is, the Sixers play the heat,
- 38:52I feel really looking good. He's looking good, like he really like.
- 38:54He hasn't looked like he lost a step or anything. So yeah, I
- 38:59really do. It doesn't matter for a guy like Joel Embii, but I
- 39:02think the biggest thing is just conditioning. That's the biggest thing. He's he's
- 39:07getting his buckets. I think before this game tonight versus the Grizzlies, he
- 39:12had eighty four points and eighty three minutes, which is ridiculous. He's still
- 39:19on that or MVP trajectory. But I don't know. I just feel like
- 39:23he needs to be playing instead of resting. Because yes, I know he's
- 39:30still coming back from that injury. It's not one hundred percent. But I
- 39:35think that if he gets some more that rust off, whenever you get into
- 39:37that playoff series against a potential Milwaukee or say the Magic go up to the
- 39:43two seed, then I'd prefer that better than him getting even more time off,
- 39:49if that makes sense. But okay, now we have to really talk
- 39:54about it the Boston Celtics. If say, if the seven and eight seed
- 40:00they won their playing games, the Boston Celtics would be playing the Miami Heat.
- 40:06How would you feel about it this year? The Miami Heat. They're
- 40:08always a tough team. So how do you feel about it this year?
- 40:14I feel like the Celtics will win this one this year. I just don't
- 40:16feel the same. We talked about it last week. Also, no,
- 40:21Tyler Harrow looking not looking like he's gonna come back. No came. Yeah,
- 40:27but how I don't know, Like, like you're saying the rust point,
- 40:30Joel Embiat is Joel Embiid. Tyler Harrow is not Joel Embiid. He's
- 40:35not. He's not that type of guy, you know. So I don't
- 40:37know he's gonna get acclib Yeah, he's that guy, but he's not that
- 40:42guy. You know what I'm saying, Like he's that guy, but not
- 40:45that guy, you know. So I don't know how fast is he gonna
- 40:50ge acclimated. But even outside, if you have Tyler Harrow coming back,
- 40:52you don't have a game, Vincent, you don't have a Max Strews.
- 40:55You lost these key pieces that that were on your team last year who really
- 41:00held it down for you. It's not the same. It's just not the
- 41:02same team. You know. Even Kyle Lowry isn't on this team anymore either.
- 41:07Yeah, So you don't have that that backup point guard, that veteran
- 41:10leadership coming off the bench to keep the things moving forward that you would have
- 41:15last year. So I just didn't this team, this heat team isn't the
- 41:17same team as it was last year. I get you and Nikola topic coming
- 41:22alright, right, Nikola Jovic Jovic, They're all Nikola Jovich. He's coming
- 41:32into a little bit of his own. But it's just not the same effect
- 41:35that it has for me as it did last year. Yeah, Nicola Jovich
- 41:39Jokic. That's and I gotta say this, Josh, I think that the
- 41:46Celtics are somewhat becoming underrated here as far as from some or not some majority
- 41:53of the NBA media. So, Josh, you know, they have the
- 41:57third best net rating in NBA history history. And let me give you this.
- 42:02Let me give you this. Okay, didn't we hear the same thing
- 42:07about the Baltimore Ravens this year. Didn't we hear the same thing about the
- 42:09Baltimore Ravens this year? How'd that turnout? How'd that turn out? That's
- 42:15football. That's different. Different, it's the same. It's the same parallel.
- 42:21You have Sometimes the analytics go out the window when you have to play
- 42:27the goats and the Celtics are gonna run into one of the Goats in the
- 42:30championship. They do make it, it's not gonna have it. Well,
- 42:35that's not till the championship. Yeah, Bro, is a Celtics? Is
- 42:39it Celtics? Okay? With winning a conference championship? Fair? Fair,
- 42:44that's fair. I just feel like there's the only one that poses a threat
- 42:50is the Knicks here. But again, they're not healthy. They don't have
- 42:52Julius Rondo og up like a Bucks team at the top of their game.
- 42:57Isn't well tonight. Yeah, well, we're not gonna get into that.
- 43:02But ebid Tyres Maxie the way Tyres Maxi has been playing, I don't think
- 43:08the series. Kelly Ubray, they have Key playing nice this year. Bro,
- 43:14don't don't cap great defensive player this year? Yeah, he's playing good.
- 43:17Offensively good looking while doing it, you know he he's gonna get job.
- 43:22I was waited, I was I was waiting. I was waited.
- 43:25That's why I was already laughing. All was waiting for that putch slide.
- 43:30But no, I just don't think in a seven game series this year,
- 43:35outside of the Knicks or potentially the Sixers, it depends whenever the Sixers.
- 43:40If the Sixers play them in the conference finals, when Joel Embiid has no
- 43:45Russ left, then okay, I would say probably Sixers. But every other
- 43:50team I feel comfort with Boston in the seven game series. I don't think
- 43:53they want to see Joel Embiid because who's gonna guard him. Who's guarding Joel
- 44:00on the on the Boston Celtics. No, I get you, I get
- 44:05you. I understand that you're not gonna stop great players. But just the
- 44:08talent this year that they have is ridiculous. You have Drew Holliday, Derek
- 44:14White, Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Christops Porzingis. That's the best starting
- 44:19five in the NBA right now. Maybe not the best fit, but as
- 44:23far as talent wise, didn't they have Drew Holiday, Jaylen Brown, Jason
- 44:30Tatum, Al Horford, Marcus mart and all these guys before. They had
- 44:37talent. They've always had talent. They had Derek White too, they had
- 44:39all this talent. They didn't get the job done well. And he wasn't
- 44:44super saying yet he had to go bald. Yeah, but they still had
- 44:47Defensive Player of the Year on the other side. So no, no,
- 44:51no, no, I get you, I get you. I just it's
- 44:54just hard for me. I think that the Celtics they're just they're just too
- 45:00damn good of a team like the Bucks. I've already told you about the
- 45:04Bucks how I feel about them. And in a seven game series, it's
- 45:07usually the better team that wins. And I've seen some stuff from the Boston
- 45:13Celtics. If I'm wrong, you could completely call me out. I'm perfectly
- 45:16fine with that. I've had plenty of bad takes in our forty episodes of
- 45:21doing this. But if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But it's just I'm
- 45:28I would say this. I feel a nine out of ten as far as
- 45:30the Boston Celtics coming out of the East. That's how confident I am.
- 45:37So if you had to pick a conference championship representative, who would it be
- 45:42the Hawks. No, oh, you're right, I forgot that. Now
- 45:47the Hawks they give some week or they they do well against the Celtics.
- 45:53So maybe if we're not picking Kobe White here, then who are what are
- 45:59we doing? What are we doing? I'm you're right, honestly for me,
- 46:04for me, for me, I'm gonna trust the process with this one.
- 46:10I trust. I'm not mad with this. I'm not mad at that.
- 46:13I'm I'm not gonna lie. I'm not mad at that. I'm not
- 46:16mad at that. That's that's interesting, I would say. So for those
- 46:21that don't know to trust the process, it's Philadelphia self. Yeah, I'm
- 46:23thinking the Philadelphia seventy six ers. They've been trusting the process for eleven years
- 46:29already, but this year is gonna come through. I'd say Celtics one.
- 46:36The way the Sixers are have been playing two nixt three and the Bucks fourth,
- 46:44and those are the only ones I feel have a legitimate shot. You
- 46:46have the Knicks above the Bucks. Yeah, Jalen br he's the best guard
- 46:54the Eastern Conference. Jalen. I hate it on the contract. He deserves
- 46:59it, he's that guy, but he looks the only guy that they have
- 47:04he's the only guy that they have, the only guy. Tune into the
- 47:08last episode, like we're talking about talking about the only guy. Yeah,
- 47:16No, I was gonna say something outlandish right now that every old head was
- 47:21gonna go crazy about. But I'll keep it to myself. I'll keep it
- 47:25to myself right now. So what would you have the bucks? Would you
- 47:32have him to? Okay, i'll say it. You pulled my you pulled
- 47:37my hand right there, I'll say it, say it, say it.
- 47:40Who do I want leading my team with no other stars? Jalen Brunson or
- 47:46Alan Iverson. I'm taking Jalen Brunson over Alan Iverson. That's just me though.
- 47:54That's just me though. That's just me though. No, let's talk
- 47:59about it. Let's talk, but I'm talking about it. I'm talking about
- 48:02it outside that one year, another year where Alanson made his team better that
- 48:07year, made it to the finals and won an m v P. Yeah,
- 48:12cake walk, who was he playing the new Jersey nets? He freaking
- 48:15the nets? Made the finals the next year and then the Raptors. I
- 48:21just want to bring who won that f who won that finals? Gods take
- 48:25it always goes back to the Damn's first no, I don't know, and
- 48:36I'm just kidding that was atlandish. I still stand on business with it because
- 48:39I'm I think I'm gonna get so canceled saying this stuff, bro like this
- 48:45part. One of the most the most over high players of all time.
- 48:50You know, he's he wears number three. He wears number three, and
- 48:53he has he has A, an, A, and and I in his
- 48:58names. So you know that's just me most over. But okay, so
- 49:04he won an m v P, went MVP, never made it back.
- 49:08Yeah, was a cancer to his team. Went to the Pistons. They
- 49:13didn't make the championship after he made it. They after going back to back
- 49:15years. Yeah, okay, the Nuggets. He couldn't get along, couldn't
- 49:21get Medal of the Rock, couldn't be the understudy, couldn't do it.
- 49:24And after that, what happened, I don't know. I don't know what
- 49:28happened after that. He just fanished. He went to the Grizzlies. That's
- 49:31where he went to the Grizzlies. They got Mike Conley for over him.
- 49:37You know. So it's kind of like pick or choose. I don't know.
- 49:40He had He's a great players, overrated who that's a very great player,
- 49:46but overrated over I understand offensive game, masterpiece all right, defensively,
- 49:53but did he make his teams better after that one year? He did not.
- 50:00If if we're going down that route, isn't Carmelo the most overrated player,
- 50:04then I didn't even rate Mellow. So I'm just I'm just saying,
- 50:07like, he's a good he's a good post, he's a good ISO player,
- 50:12greatest probably Team USA basketball player of all time. I'll give him that,
- 50:16just yeah. But but he's a Hall of famer. Mellow is a
- 50:21Hall of Famer. But I don't I don't think people consider them in the
- 50:25same level that they consider an Alan Iverson. Allen Iverson is such an icon
- 50:30when it comes to off the court stuff that puts a level brandow people's eyes.
- 50:35Yeah, okay, dude, we just want to Okay, let's get
- 50:38back onto the motion of the podcast right now. Yeah, yeah, let's
- 50:43get back on and let's just go to this Western Conference right here. So
- 50:46okay, we're gonna we're gonna just start off with these top three seeds right
- 50:52now. So as of right now, there's still games going on. But
- 50:54as of right now, nine three p m. April ninth, Minnesota Timberwolves
- 51:00have the one seed fifty four and twenty four. The Denver Nuggets are the
- 51:04two seed fifty four and twenty four as well. Minnesota has a tiebreaker and
- 51:08the Oklahoma City Thunder are one game back of them with the fifty three and
- 51:13twenty five record. So I asked you this last week, Josh, but
- 51:16I'm gonna ask you this again. Who's gonna have the one seed? And
- 51:20how is this going to play out? It's tough. I don't know.
- 51:35It's tough. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's between
- 51:37the tim Over Nuggets though they've been better over the last ten games. Yeah,
- 51:42didn't say that under or five and five in the last ten games.
- 51:45Well, to be fair, Shay and j Dubb, Jaylen Williams, he
- 51:47hasn't been they haven't been playing. They've been resting, kat ain't playing for
- 51:52the Timberwolves, and Jamal Murray and playing for the Nuggets. So yeah,
- 51:57but they're not They're not going to different scare. Yes, player is the
- 52:00best player and then Williams is the second best player on their team. So
- 52:07Chet Holmgren is like their fifth best player. Is what you're trying to say
- 52:12right now, Okay, Shay j dub Giddy. Nah, he's better than
- 52:23Lou Dort. Nah, he's better than You're the best player on your team,
- 52:29better than Victor Win. He can't all right. Other than that,
- 52:32I think I'm gonna go with the I don't know. I don't know who's
- 52:37gonna finish top. Okay, Okay, here, I'm I'm gonna help you
- 52:42out here. I'm gonna help you out here. I'm a yeah. Okay.
- 52:47So on Wednesday, the Timbolves and Denver Nuggets play each other. Then
- 52:53the Nuggets play the Spurs and Grizzlies, and that's how they finish out.
- 52:59And that's how they finish out, and they're playing the Jazz tonight. The
- 53:01Minnesota Timberwolves beat the Wizards tonight obviously play the Nuggets, but then they have
- 53:07the Hawks and Sons. So if if the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets and they
- 53:13win one of their last two remaining games, they get the one seed umber
- 53:15one seed, and then the Thunder let me just read the Thunder. They
- 53:20play the Spurs, then they play the Bucks and Mavericks. Oh that nah,
- 53:25I don't see them winning. I don't know, I think it's gonna
- 53:29be Timberwolves. Okay, so you have so you have it the way it
- 53:34is right now, Timberwolves, Nuggets, thunderd I think this. Okay,
- 53:38So I think that the Nuggets they're gonna win. They're gonna win against the
- 53:43Timberwolves, and I think they're gonna get the one seed. And I do
- 53:47agree that the thunder they're gonna have the well, I don't know they're only
- 53:52okay, I'm gonna say this, Denver gets the one seed, Oklahoma City
- 53:58gets the two seed, Minnesota gets it a three seed. I feel like,
- 54:02okay, see, they'll win against the Bucks or Mavericks, one of
- 54:05those two teams they're because the Mavericks they basically got this five seed lot up.
- 54:13I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that that you did not not
- 54:15say that they're gonna go to in one in these last three games. Is
- 54:20that better? I guess I get so. Yeah, So no, I
- 54:28say, Denver, okay, see than Minnesota. Then for this four or
- 54:32five it's pretty much locked up right here. The Clippers are fifty and twenty
- 54:37eight. The Mavericks are forty nine and thirty. The only thing they are
- 54:40battling here for realistically is who's gonna have the home court advantage? So kind
- 54:46of going into early We're not gonna talk playoff matchups yet, but just a
- 54:52quick prediction. Who wins? Clippers are Mavericks Mavericks? Do you think it's
- 55:00going all seven? Things going six and the Mavericks are gonna win? And
- 55:06now with Kawhi with that Nie Swollen, I'm not sure about that now.
- 55:12I am not sure about that. But the way the Mavericks are playing right
- 55:15now, the way Luca and Currie are playing right now, it's gonna be
- 55:20the Mavericks. Yeah. No, I would say the Mavericks, and I
- 55:23think they may get up to that four seed right there, which is gonna
- 55:27be big for the MAVs getting that home court advantage here. But as far
- 55:31as where the real interesting topic starts is all the way from the sixth seed
- 55:37to the ten seed. So let me go over the standings first. So
- 55:40the sixth seed is the Phoenix Suns who are forty six and thirty two,
- 55:45and then the New Orleans Pelicans are the seventh seed forty six and thirty two
- 55:50as well, and then the eight seed is a Sacramento Kings forty five and
- 55:53thirty three, the Lakers nine seed forty five and thirty four. In the
- 55:58ten seed, Golden State Warriors are forty three and thirty five. So where
- 56:02does this Where is this going to match up? Who's gonna get this last
- 56:06six seed? Who's going to be the seven eight, who's gonna be the
- 56:08nine? Ten seed? Right here? Well, with the Warriors beating the
- 56:14Lakers right now sixty one to forty eight, I believe that will probably.
- 56:20I don't know. Kings have been falling down, Pelicans have been falling down.
- 56:28I just it's tough. I believe Suns stay where they're at. I
- 56:34do believe the Sons will stay where they're at. I think the other seven
- 56:37through ten is subject to change. I think the Warriors they can't really move
- 56:40up much. I think they the highest. They maybe end up with nine
- 56:44or eight. But as far as these other I don't think. I don't
- 56:46see much change. I just think there's a little there's gonna be like one
- 56:50one going up and up and down one or so. I can see what
- 56:52happening. For me, I don't see much changing. So with the Suns
- 56:59losing sixty sixty two to twenty seven versus the Clippers right now, are they
- 57:05are playing? Is Devin Booker playing, everybody's playing, Josh, everybody's playing.
- 57:13Everybody's playing based off that the Phoenix Sounds are gonna drop all the way
- 57:16to the ten seed. No, no, okay, hey, some days
- 57:22people can't miss. Some day people can't. Yeah, yeah, no,
- 57:25that's true. But also scoring twenty seven points with almost it being people miss
- 57:30some day people, I guess they miss a lot. Damn No. But
- 57:36I say Pelicans they get the they get the sixth seed, and I say
- 57:42that Phoenix, Phoenix, they have the seventh seed. And I think the
- 57:47Lakers are still gonna jump up to the eighth seed even if they lose to
- 57:51the Warriors. And then I'm gonna say the Kings them all to the tenth
- 57:55seed. Technically, yes, your dream may not be dead here, but
- 58:04okay, as far as this question right here, so as of right now,
- 58:09let's just leave the standings how they are right now. Minnesota is a
- 58:13one seed. Who would Minnesota not want to play out of all of these
- 58:17four teams from a seven to ten c I know we're I know we're gonna
- 58:24go into some games. But the Temples. They just beat the Lakers.
- 58:30I know I saw that, But Lebron playoff basketball, ad playoff basketball,
- 58:37d Lo D'Angelo Russell gave NZA coming back. I think it's gonna be a
- 58:42lot. I don't think the lawyers have enough anymore to keep up. I
- 58:45get Stephen Curry, Grays point guard of all time, is there, but
- 58:50I just I don't know. This thing is different. When the lights come
- 58:52on and Lebron has Lebron needs to go to a championship and play the Nuggets
- 58:58one more time. I think that's I think it's just gonna different when the
- 59:00playoffs roll around. Who Okay, Well, I get we always talk about
- 59:04I always tell you probably experience don't matter too much, but in this case,
- 59:08I think I think the experience outweighs quite a bit. Yeah yeah,
- 59:15okay, okay, yeah, I can see that. But I guess just
- 59:21me thinking that the Lakers they're gonna I'm confident that they're gonna get this seventh
- 59:25seed right here. I'm just really confident in it. So I would say
- 59:30that the Timberwolves, out of the Pelicans, Kings and the Warriors, they
- 59:36wouldn't want to play. I'd probably I'd probably say the Warriors. I'm not
- 59:42gonna lie, just just due to Stephan Steph Curry and playoff experience. The
- 59:49Pelicans they have no rem protection. The Kings, although they have a great
- 59:54offense, they have no defense. Really, I just think that the Warriors
- 1:00:00they cannot be slept on. And the Warriors they've been playing damn good basketball
- 1:00:04as of late, so they haven't been so I'm gonna I'm gonna have to
- 1:00:08say with the Warriors here, I'm gonna have to just say that. But
- 1:00:10when the Lakers are eight and two in the last ten games, yeah,
- 1:00:15again, that's just me going based off the premise that they're gonna get the
- 1:00:19seventh seed. That's that's just what I'm thinking. Oh, true, true,
- 1:00:22Yeah, that's just what I'm thinking. But anything else you want to
- 1:00:25take away? Oh, he was going crazy the last three possessions. No,
- 1:00:34But is there anything else you want to take away before we move into
- 1:00:37the games of the week. We kind of elaborated a little too much on
- 1:00:42the standings and yeah, yeah, get into some of these games and keep
- 1:00:45it moving. Yeah, no, it's gonna be a quick recap, but
- 1:00:50yeah, quickly. Okay, So this first one it was between the Cleveland
- 1:00:54Cavaliers and the Los Angeles Lakers, in which the Lakers won one team the
- 1:01:00ninety seven and it was a dominant performance that featured a nineteen oh run in
- 1:01:07the third quarter by the Lakers. Did you take anything away from this one?
- 1:01:12I think this is the difference between the squads and the West compared to
- 1:01:15the East and the experience that it comes with it. I understand that Garius
- 1:01:22Garland had a big day, but there's But the thing is with Donovan Mitchell,
- 1:01:25some nights he's just off, and tonight this was just one of those
- 1:01:30nights. Four for thirteen, two of nine from the three and ten points.
- 1:01:32That's what you're gonna get with the player like Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell
- 1:01:35will chuck up shots and this one I'm surprised to get to shoot more.
- 1:01:38That's just my opinion. You played thirty eight minutes, the most minutes on
- 1:01:42the team, and the only shot thirteen shots. You need to shoot more
- 1:01:45than that. I understand you went two from nine from three, but your
- 1:01:47team needs to keep pulling that thing. On the other side, when we're
- 1:01:52like the Los Angeles Lakers having twenty two from Anthony Davis, twenty four from
- 1:01:57Lebron and twenty eight for D'Angelo Russell. That's big your that's three guys on
- 1:02:01your team getting the job done and everyone that's filling in, especially with Torren
- 1:02:05Prince coming off the bench with eighteen points. That's his production all the way
- 1:02:08around, and that that that plays into good basketball and that's what's going to
- 1:02:12allow them to move forward. And I think it does show the difference between
- 1:02:15the West and the East. Yeah, and the biggest thing that I've kind
- 1:02:20of been talking about and you kind of mentioned as the Lakers ever since January
- 1:02:24first, they've been shooting over forty percent from three in these games and they're
- 1:02:30becoming a real three point shooting team. And we always say this around Lebron
- 1:02:35James, if you have three point shooters, it's gonna be really scary and
- 1:02:38hard to guard. And if De'anzeo, Russell or Austin Reeves could put up
- 1:02:44performances like this every other night, then you're not gonna be able to beat
- 1:02:47this team. And with the Calves here, with the Calves there, they're
- 1:02:53starting to fall down. I know, Donovan Mitchell, he just got back.
- 1:02:57Evan Mobley's been back probably for about six games. But they're not looking
- 1:03:01too good. They're not and I don't know if Donovan Mitchell's contract situation that's
- 1:03:07kind of looming where he's not committed to the future, if that's kind of
- 1:03:10weighing them down. But it's not looking good and I think they could kind
- 1:03:15of fall here. But let's go in and get into this next game right
- 1:03:19here, Josh, in which it was one of your games that you want
- 1:03:22to talk about. It was it features the Dallas Mavericks and the Houston Rockets
- 1:03:28in which this was an exciting game in which it went its overtime to one
- 1:03:34thirty six. Josh, anything you took away from this one, Yeah,
- 1:03:39the Houston Rockets were eliminated from playoff contention after this basketball game. So it
- 1:03:44was amazing to see now they don't have a lottery pick or a play in
- 1:03:46spot. So yeah, that's all I really wanted to talk about on the
- 1:03:51pod today. It was just that and it made my day, made my
- 1:03:54my week, made my year. But no, okay, in all seriousness,
- 1:03:58the Rockets were up very big in this game. I believe, what
- 1:04:00was it, twenty twenty two points. They were up by twenty two points
- 1:04:04at one point in his game. And this just shows the firepower that that
- 1:04:09Luka Daunchets and Kyrie Irving carried with each other. With Kyrie going for forty
- 1:04:13eight points. But look at this efficiency fifteen for seventeen from the free throw
- 1:04:16line, fifteen from twenty five from the field, and three for eight from
- 1:04:19the three point line. That it doesn't get no better than that. It
- 1:04:24doesn't get no better than that when it comes to Kyrie Irving shoot in the
- 1:04:26basketball. And we're looking at Luka Daancics thirty seven points, twelve assists and
- 1:04:30nine rebounds of walking almost triple double every single night. This, this Mavericks
- 1:04:35team is just playing at a different level right now. And honestly, it's
- 1:04:40a little scary because if they can be down by twenty two and you just
- 1:04:43get with the ball on these two guys' hands, no lead is safe.
- 1:04:46It's just not safe with these two type of players. On the flip side,
- 1:04:49I get Dylan Brooks somehow played good offensively. It was crazy. He
- 1:04:55had twenty nine four random nine or fourteen my p six from three eight.
- 1:05:00That just doesn't happen every night, Ladies, gentlemen. So, but no,
- 1:05:06as far as the Mavericks, having those two guys really separated them,
- 1:05:12I believe from a lot of teams in the NBA because there's no there's hardly
- 1:05:15any other players in AYBA that can score at will like these two guys do.
- 1:05:20Yeah, and just one thing I want to mention from the Mavericks because
- 1:05:25you kind of hit every point. But as far as PJ. Washington after
- 1:05:29he came back, he's been playing really damn good and in this game,
- 1:05:32he stood out and he's something that the Mavericks that were missing years prior,
- 1:05:38where you have a lockdown perimeter defender and also somebody who's a viable offensive threat.
- 1:05:45In this game, fourteen points, thirteen rebounds, and you had two
- 1:05:48assists but two blocks, and just defensively in this comeback right here, it
- 1:05:53was it was really crucial. And if you could have PJ. Washington playing
- 1:05:58like this, then I I feel like it's gonna be it's gonna be real
- 1:06:01scary because you could have him going up against the Kawhi Leonards and Kevin Durant,
- 1:06:06s Lebron James, somebody who could guard the big wing offensive players.
- 1:06:13But as far as from this Rocket side. You shoot forty one percent from
- 1:06:16three, you get twenty nine points out of Dylan Brooks here, and you
- 1:06:20still don't get the job done. Again, I didn't expect the Rockets to
- 1:06:28eventually make the playoffs. They just had this amazing eleven game win streak.
- 1:06:31But losing five in a row, that's unacceptable right there to close the season
- 1:06:35if you, if you really try to make that push right there, But
- 1:06:40again, you don't have albren Sengoon, so you just flip the page and
- 1:06:44move on to next year. But anything else you want to take away from
- 1:06:47this one, now, let's keep move, keep move, all right?
- 1:06:51Yeah, I like this pace right here. Next one we have the Philadelphia
- 1:06:56seventy six ers versus the Miami Heat, in which the six is they won
- 1:07:00one on nine to one oh five, And this was Jolanbiid's second game back.
- 1:07:05So, Josh, anything you took away from this one in particular in
- 1:07:12this one, I just think it's showing, uh kind of where Tyrese Maxi
- 1:07:18is at in this so far into this late season push that he's having right
- 1:07:23now, especially scoring thirty seven in this one and then fifty two against the
- 1:07:28Spurs. He's really showing his offensive capabilities that he's able to do, especially
- 1:07:32with or without Joel Ebiid. There's some people that made hip might have believe
- 1:07:36he might have taken a step back when Jolob Embiid return. And understand,
- 1:07:40joln Bid only played thirty three points in thirty three minutes in this game,
- 1:07:43but he still had twenty nine points. He still got his own. Jolanbiad's
- 1:07:45gonna get his own no matter what. But the fact that Tyrese Maxi can
- 1:07:49score thirty seven and along with eleven assists and nine rebounds in this game,
- 1:07:54that's just crazy efficiency from your second best player on the team. And that's
- 1:07:57what the seventy seiers need going into the playoffs. And not only that,
- 1:08:00like I mentioned earlier, Kelly Uber is playing great basketball right now and he
- 1:08:04had eighteen also in this game along with eight rebounds, and he had twenty
- 1:08:09seven the other night. So mm hm. So I think that's big for
- 1:08:14the Seven Sisters, seeing that from your kind of three main offensive players that
- 1:08:16they if they can do this, I think do think they're going to be
- 1:08:19a scary team. As far as the Miami Heat, this is where I
- 1:08:25think the Heat struggled. I do know. I do think they have players
- 1:08:28that can score. They have a Terry rose Yer, Terry Rogier can go
- 1:08:32can kind of, he can make it shot on some nights. But some
- 1:08:35of these guys are a little inconsistent. Jimmy Butler just doesn't have that same
- 1:08:40that he's had. I don't know why I made that elaboration, but he
- 1:08:44doesn't have that same that he usually has going into the playoffs. He's just
- 1:08:47not that same guy that he doesn't have that un You don't have that,
- 1:08:58y'all know what I mean. I don't know. He's just not striking the
- 1:09:00fear that he usually does late into the season. Right now, twenty points
- 1:09:04isn't gonna cut it. They need that more. They need more out offensive
- 1:09:08output from him. He's gonna get his defensive output gaming in game out,
- 1:09:11but they need their stars to step up big time for the Mimi heat to
- 1:09:14make some noise. Yeah, no, they definitely do. But this is
- 1:09:17what separates them from yours past. They don't They're not scoring as much as
- 1:09:23they usually do. The defense is always gonna be there with Eric Sposa,
- 1:09:27Jimmy Butler, bam Adebayo. It's gonna be there, but can you score
- 1:09:30enough points? And with this being Joel Embiid's second game back, it's not
- 1:09:36looking good for the Heat. It's not because Joel Embiid. He's only gonna
- 1:09:41get better, and he's been looking better, and he's in these games that
- 1:09:45he's played against the Grizzlies against I forgot who they played tonight, but yeah,
- 1:09:51he's looking better. So this is the worst that they're gonna see Joel
- 1:09:56Embiid if they happen to meet him in the play in so and even Tobias
- 1:10:00Harris, he didn't play for the Sixers. So I think this shows more
- 1:10:04the potential of the Sixers and how flawed the Heat they are this year.
- 1:10:11But let's go ahead and move on to this next game right here, and
- 1:10:15or one last stat, Tyree s Maaxy and Joel Embiid combining for sixty six
- 1:10:19points. That's a recipe for success. That is when you have when you
- 1:10:25have your duo combining for that much, you're gonna win plenty of basketball games.
- 1:10:30Next one we have is the Minnesota Timberwolves versus the Los Angeles Lakers,
- 1:10:34in which the Timberwolves won one twenty seven to one. Seventeen where Lebron did
- 1:10:40not play an ad he went out it was late late first quarter, early
- 1:10:45second quarter with the eye, or he got poked in the heights, something
- 1:10:49like that. But anything that you took away from this one right here,
- 1:10:56I'm sorry, I just zoned out when we were talking about which game?
- 1:10:58Which game? Are we talking about? The Temples and the Lakers? Okay,
- 1:11:02I'll freaking like someone said something and I was like, I got distracted.
- 1:11:06That's on me, boys, all right, tim Wolves and the Lakers.
- 1:11:12I think this is where I've kind of been harping on if the Timberwolves
- 1:11:15can put on the output out the offensive output, enough to keep up with
- 1:11:18some of the teams. And I think that's where a lot of people kind
- 1:11:21of kind of doubt them too, because they're not great offensively or great from
- 1:11:26the three. But in this one, Ethne Edwards showed up. Nas Reid
- 1:11:30is starting to come into his own in the NBA. I understand he had
- 1:11:32he's had a lot of love coming out of high school and he's had with
- 1:11:35the Jelly fam and all that, but with I forgot about with with with
- 1:11:45with this year, he showed up in a big way. He's on his
- 1:11:46way to I saw maybe becoming six Men of the Year and all that,
- 1:11:51but in the starting role in this night, he had thirty one points with
- 1:11:56eleven rebounds. If you can get this type of production from a player outside
- 1:12:00of Anthony Edwards and understand that these other guys aren't very good offensively, but
- 1:12:03we had Neil Alexander Walker go for fifteen and j McDaniel's go for eleven,
- 1:12:11Jayleen McDaniel's go for eleven. It's gonna go a long way for the Severer
- 1:12:15Bowls team to keep up with some of these offenses that they have to play
- 1:12:17in the Western Conference, because I do know, I do understand the game
- 1:12:23kind of slows down when the playoffs comes around. That's more of a half
- 1:12:26court and more half court offensive play. But if they can do this along
- 1:12:30with their defense, they're gonna be a major problem. Yeah, And it
- 1:12:35just shows how good offensively they could be. With Carl Anthony Towns coming back
- 1:12:41in the mix. As far as his status, it's unknown as far as
- 1:12:45him coming back in the first round or second round, it all depends.
- 1:12:48But like you said, nas Reed, he stepped up in a very big
- 1:12:53way and just defensively they're just amazing. I know Lebron and Ad they didn't
- 1:12:58play, but the defense, it's been the consistent thing all year, with
- 1:13:01Jada McDaniels potentially being First Team All Defense, Rudy Gobert on his way to
- 1:13:08have another Defensive Player of the Year Nikila Alexandra Walker, him being a nice
- 1:13:13perimeter defender. So they have the pieces there. It's all going to depend
- 1:13:16on if Anthony Edwards he could do what he did this night, in which
- 1:13:20he had twenty six points and what stood out to me the most age assists.
- 1:13:25He's becoming a facilitator and being able to get open looks for these guys,
- 1:13:30and that's why Nas reed he had a great game. But yeah,
- 1:13:32but as far on the Lakers side, we do have to point out that
- 1:13:36Lebron did not play in this game. That's a big thing. If Lebron
- 1:13:40doesn't play, I think that's a big loss. I think that might be
- 1:13:43a big no question. Yeah, if D'Angelo Russell and Austin Reeves aren't shooting
- 1:13:48with great efficiency, it's going to be a problem for the Lakers because they
- 1:13:51need to output outside of a D and Lebron. He's the Russell who went
- 1:13:55five for nineteen and Austin Reeves went four for fourteen. That's nine for like
- 1:14:00twenty twenty three. That's or that's no. Nine for thirty three. That's
- 1:14:03nine for thirty three from the field. So they need, they need,
- 1:14:06they need more efficiency from from their from their player, from those two guys
- 1:14:12for them to really be relevant when it comes to playing playoff basketball. Yeah,
- 1:14:15it, I understand that one hundred percent. And again, if you
- 1:14:19don't have Lebron in there, who could it open? Say? And he's
- 1:14:24yeah, it it opens up the game and you're not getting the same coverage
- 1:14:27that you are compared to if it's just them. But anything else you want
- 1:14:31to take away from this one? Uh nah, excuse moved. We got
- 1:14:36a lot of talk about. Yeah. Then this next one right here,
- 1:14:41it features the Denver Nuggets versus the Los Angeles Clippers, in which the Clippers
- 1:14:46won one oh two to one hundred after being down I believe the score was
- 1:14:51nineteen to four. Yeah, nineteen to four and they came all the way
- 1:14:56back in one. So, Josh, is there anything that you took away
- 1:15:00from this one right here? Okay, Well, maybe Kawhi Leonard being hurt
- 1:15:05might be a good thing for the Clippers. I don't know, but I'm
- 1:15:10just kidding. It's kind of hard to gauge these two teams without a Jamal
- 1:15:15Murray and with a Kawhi Leonard. It's just showing Joel Embiid goes insane thirty
- 1:15:21six points, Tennis's seventeen rebounds, that he does what he does. Outside
- 1:15:27of that, there wasn't very much production. And then on the flip side,
- 1:15:32you have Paul George taking over the reins once it, Hawhi goes down
- 1:15:35go and score in twenty eight, then James Harden going twenty four eight and
- 1:15:40six rebounds. I just think all these teams just played, just did what
- 1:15:44they were supposed to do in this one. I don't think there's much to
- 1:15:45gauge off of. Really, it was a two point decided game. I
- 1:15:48get the Storm back from that nineteen to four lead, but these are two
- 1:15:54veteran teams that know how to get the job done. I don't think there's
- 1:15:57really much that you can base this game off of that can kind of change
- 1:16:00minds going into the playoffs. So I know it may not change your mind
- 1:16:06or first thing I'm gonna address this Joel Embiid. He didn't play in this
- 1:16:10game. It was actually Jokic who you're talking about. You said, Joel
- 1:16:14een Biid, No, you're not good. But what I took away from
- 1:16:18this one, obviously Paul George did good. James Harden he struggled a lot
- 1:16:24in the first half, but in the second half he was making winning plays.
- 1:16:29And one thing that you've been harping on a lot is Russell Westbrook.
- 1:16:32How much of a factor he's been or he is to the Clippers. And
- 1:16:36in this game he showed out the most. I know it's not going to
- 1:16:40show on the box score, twelve points, five assist, six rebounds,
- 1:16:44but he's the one that led the spark. Him and Norman Powell there,
- 1:16:46they're the ones that led the comeback to happen and even have them in the
- 1:16:51ballgame. And I don't care if Jamal Murray isn't playing because Kawhi Leonard he's
- 1:16:57not playing either. So if anything, it's kind of evenly matched right here.
- 1:17:00And I feel like Kawhi he brings more, he brings more value to
- 1:17:04a team compared to Jamal Murray. I know it opens up Denver's offense,
- 1:17:09but Kawhi he's the better player. So the Clippers winning this game right here,
- 1:17:15it it proves to me that they may not be the favorites, but
- 1:17:19they have spurts and moments where they can be championship contenders. And that's what
- 1:17:26I took away from it. I don't think anyone looks up the Clippers and
- 1:17:30says, look at James Harden, Paul George Kawhi, Russell Westbrook and like,
- 1:17:33oh, those guys are all future Hall of Famers. I don't think
- 1:17:38they cannot get the job done. So that they haven't got the job done,
- 1:17:42when are they going to do it? They're going to need that production
- 1:17:45from James Harden and Russell Westbrook. They can't be on the court together,
- 1:17:47but when they're separate, they both need to search this offense to a different
- 1:17:53level. Yeah, no question. And one more thing is them, actually
- 1:17:59you in PJ. Tucker here. That's a big thing. Now. I
- 1:18:02don't know why they didn't use PJ. Tucker, but actually having him in
- 1:18:05the lineup now where he's he may not score points and he not he may
- 1:18:12not show up on the box score, but he's one of the most important
- 1:18:15players in the league in my opinion. But let's go ahead and move on
- 1:18:19to this last game right here, which it featured the Boston Celtics versus the
- 1:18:24Oklahoma City Thunder, and what's the Celtics. They kicked the thunders ass one
- 1:18:30thirty five to one hundred. So what did you take away from this one?
- 1:18:33Josh? I do think we can't take much away just based off the
- 1:18:41SGA and no Jalen Williams. But I just do think that the do you
- 1:18:50with Jason Tatum, Christops and Jalen Brown all scoring over twenty just shows that
- 1:18:56this team, if these three guys play play like this, like coincide,
- 1:19:01coinciding with each other, that they are going to be a problem. Because
- 1:19:04I do think, I still do think that this Thunder team could be It's
- 1:19:11comparable to teams in the East, even without SGA. In my opinion,
- 1:19:15I just do think defensively, and the fact that the Celtics were able to
- 1:19:17score one thirty five shows a lot for them going into the playoffs. Yeah,
- 1:19:23yeah, no, it it does. And it shows the firepower.
- 1:19:29It shows what they're really capable of. And I know people they're going to
- 1:19:32say, oh, well, they shot forty three percent from three, but
- 1:19:36they've been doing that the entire season. It's not an outlier here. It's
- 1:19:41something they've been doing pretty good. Yeah, it's yeah, but they've been
- 1:19:45doing it the entire season, so it's something it may be unprecedented, but
- 1:19:49this is why they have the third highest net rating in NBA history. So
- 1:19:55again, when their jump shots are falling, they're going to be impossible to
- 1:19:59be I don't care if Shay or Jalen Williams were out there, There's no
- 1:20:03way in hell that they would have been able to beat this team here.
- 1:20:08And that's the biggest thing I can take away because again no SGA, no
- 1:20:14j dub. But all right, let's go ahead and move into this next
- 1:20:16topic right here, in which again after or the next time you hear us
- 1:20:23is gonna be playing tournament time, so we're not gonna really be talking awards
- 1:20:28after that. So we're gonna give our award predictions right now, and we're
- 1:20:32gonna start with the most important one right here, MVP. And there's been
- 1:20:38a bunch of debate as far as who is the MVP, but Josh,
- 1:20:42who is your MVP? For me? I think it has to be Luka
- 1:20:46don JITs. I do think what he is doing the way. The Mavericks
- 1:20:49have surged all the way to the fifth best record in the West after being
- 1:20:54basically in the ninth spot for most of the season, eighth spot for most
- 1:20:57of the season. They storm their way into the playoffs, and he had
- 1:21:00there. He's averaging near almost nearly a triple double thirty three point nine points,
- 1:21:05nine point two rebounds, and nine point eight assist per game. But
- 1:21:10not to mention, his defense has gotten a lot better this year. It's
- 1:21:13really an underrated part of his game, I believe this year and a lot
- 1:21:15of player people still underlook it. He's averaging one point five stills per game,
- 1:21:20well, guarding the well, guarding the opposing teams, point guard throughout
- 1:21:25quite well throughout throughout the games that he is playing. So for me,
- 1:21:30the MVP clear cut is Luka don just based off the way he's been playing.
- 1:21:33So I'm gonna say this, I don't mind if you have Nicola Jokic
- 1:21:41as your MVP. I understand I don't either, And again, best best
- 1:21:47player in the world walking triple double makes it look easy Jamal Murray, But
- 1:21:54Luka Doncic, I feel like he's been so good throughout his career, expect
- 1:22:00this. He's been averaging a triple double ever since then all Star Break.
- 1:22:04That is insane, and especially how like you mentioned, defensively, there's no
- 1:22:11real flaws in his game. There's not. And I think if there's any
- 1:22:15year for Luca to win the MVP, it has to be this year.
- 1:22:19And you can't say oh because the standings. If anything, Nicola Jokic,
- 1:22:26he won the MVP his first MVP when he was a sixth seed against the
- 1:22:30Warriors, so seedings shouldn't matter here. Westbrooky won it when he was a
- 1:22:36four seed, So Luka Danciic, he deserves this MVP, and then I'd
- 1:22:41have Jokic too, and then I'd have a big gap shake gilgis Alexander number
- 1:22:46three. I know we didn't say who we'd have two and three, but
- 1:22:49who would you have two and three? Yogicchin Sga Okay, I agree.
- 1:22:56I think we both agree with MVP like completely, yeah, okay. Next
- 1:23:00one right here we have is Rookie of the Year, in which we're not
- 1:23:05even gonna bring up number two, three, four. There's no debate,
- 1:23:10there's no debate, there's no debate. I'll let you, I'll let you
- 1:23:12handle this one. This is your guy. Go ahead, Wimby first in
- 1:23:15points, blocks, rebounds, steals, top five and assists twenty one point
- 1:23:20three points, ten point seven rebounds, three point eight assists, three point
- 1:23:24six blocks per game, one point three steals per game on twenty nine on
- 1:23:28only twenty nine minutes to play. Most of my cases is gonna be made
- 1:23:31here in a minute, So I'm not gonna elaborate too much. But yeah,
- 1:23:36Dog University forty and twenty thirty eight, eighteen seven nine blocks, almost
- 1:23:43getting a quadruple double in three straight games, five y five game. Well,
- 1:23:47this is on president shit, bro, this is on precidented ship that
- 1:23:51we have never seen before, and we're seeing it from Victor wibin Yam and
- 1:23:57that's why he's the Rookie of the Year for me. Yeah, no,
- 1:23:59this is this is no question scoot handed skip no. But all right,
- 1:24:06let's go in and let's go and get into the most improved player of the
- 1:24:10year. So I know there's debate as far as what does most improved player
- 1:24:15actually mean? Does it mean somebody who was a role player turn into a
- 1:24:20star or somebody who was not even a role player turned into a great role
- 1:24:26player. It's really undefined here. Well, all these words are undefined here.
- 1:24:30So who is your most improved player? I do think that it's going
- 1:24:35to come down to two players. I think for me and you also,
- 1:24:39it's going to be Tyres Maxey or Kobe White. But I'll give you why
- 1:24:42Kobe White is the most improved player in the NBA. Okay, I'll give
- 1:24:45you exactly why. No one expected Kobe White to make this jump. Did
- 1:24:49you expect Kobe White to make this jump? Fondo, being a Bulls fan,
- 1:24:54No, I did not. I'm not exactly. So he scored last
- 1:24:59season nine point seven points per game, two point nine rebounds from two point
- 1:25:02eight steals per game or assists per game. This season eighteen point nine points
- 1:25:10per game, a whole ten point jump, four point six rebounds, nearly
- 1:25:14doubling his rebound output, and five point one assists, nearly doubling his assist
- 1:25:19account. But not only this, he's keeping the bulls afloat. He's not
- 1:25:24keeping the Bulls out of the play, and he's he's he's leading the charge
- 1:25:28and keeping them there. And I do think that that's why he should be
- 1:25:30the most improved player. I get Tyrese Maxi is balling right now. But
- 1:25:33I don't think anyone. I think a lot of people expected this jump.
- 1:25:36I don't think a lot of people were like, oh, I don't think
- 1:25:38tyres Maxi. I don't think Tyrese Maxi is gonna stay the same player.
- 1:25:44No one thought that he was. He was always making this a sin.
- 1:25:47He's only averaging six more points than last year, only averaging point eight rebounds
- 1:25:53for last year, and sure he doubled assists, but that's just because he's
- 1:25:55the main guy for most of the season without Joel Embiid. A lot of
- 1:25:59this. No one expected Kobe White to do these things. That's why for
- 1:26:01me, he's the most improved player, especially coming off being a bench player
- 1:26:04for most of his career to turning into this. This is why he would
- 1:26:09be that for me. Well, to be fair, late last year,
- 1:26:13Kobe White, he started to have performances like this, But I wouldn't have
- 1:26:15expected this for a whole season. And as much as I would want to
- 1:26:20say Kobe White, his last month here has kind of been a little bit
- 1:26:25underwhelming. If he kept the same pace, then I would say, okay,
- 1:26:29I would be on the Kobe White train. Yeah. Mid season Awards,
- 1:26:34I said Kobe White was the most improved player. I said that firmly.
- 1:26:39But I'm gonna have to go back to Tyree smacks year. I think
- 1:26:42Tyree Smacksy he's he's the most improved player of the year. And I know
- 1:26:45everybody expected this jump, but still nobody expected this much of a jump,
- 1:26:51an All Star, an All Star almost starter level jump. And Kobe White
- 1:26:58keeping the bulls afloat. He kept the sixers the float while Joel Embiid he
- 1:27:01was out, and I know fourteen or fifteen to twenty seven when Joel Embiid
- 1:27:09was out is not that impressive, but it was as far as with the
- 1:27:14trade that happened, getting used to all of these players around and ever since
- 1:27:17the All Star break, they did become a better team. And a six
- 1:27:21point jump that's still a damn good jump. But again, I'm not mad
- 1:27:27with either of these two. Obviously I prefer Kobe White, but I think
- 1:27:30it's going to be Tyree Smaxy all right, defensive player of the Year.
- 1:27:36Oh buddy, okay, let me go first. Let me go first.
- 1:27:42So number two I have Victor Winmbanyama. So number one, Rudy Gobert the
- 1:27:53best defensive rating defensive team in the league, and I think the biggest thing
- 1:27:59that can Hills Wimby Winby. Yes he has the stats, don't get me
- 1:28:02wrong. But as far as the record, the record, yeah, nineteen
- 1:28:10or twenty wins compared to being the number one seed in the West, and
- 1:28:15not to mention that he has the edge over Victor winbin Yama because he's won
- 1:28:20two to three. Well, this is gonna be his fourth defensive Player of
- 1:28:24the Year, and even going off of even going off of odds right here,
- 1:28:30probably, but again just compared to right here, Rudy Gobert has minus
- 1:28:36thirty five hundred odds compared to Victor winbin Yama plus eleven hundred odds. So
- 1:28:42it's pretty clear cut and dry that Rudy Gobert is gonna win Defensive Player of
- 1:28:46the Year. Josh, I don't know why I'm asking you this question.
- 1:28:51Who's your defensive player of the year? The clear cut best defensive player to
- 1:28:57ever exists. Victor winbin Yama is the defensive player of the Year, and
- 1:29:00they're gonna have to change the name of the Defensive Player of the Year award
- 1:29:03to the Victor Wimbinyama Award. When it's all said and done, they're gonna
- 1:29:06have to turn first team All NBA to just a spot reserved for Victor winbin
- 1:29:11Yama when it's all said and done, because this year, no one's even
- 1:29:14close. No one is even close in the same stratosphere defensively than Victor Winbinyama.
- 1:29:20And I'm gonna give you why, And your defensive Player of the Year,
- 1:29:24Rudy Gobert, I gave you this stat last night. In the years
- 1:29:29of twenty twenty two all the way to twenty twenty four, two whole,
- 1:29:33two whole seasons combined. This is not taking account tonight's stats or nothing like
- 1:29:41that. Is this is before tonight Rudy Gobert played four five hundred and fifty
- 1:29:47eight minutes in one hundred and forty one games. How many blocks did he
- 1:29:51have? Two hundred and forty five? Victor Wombinyama in his rookie season playing
- 1:29:58two thousand and thirty six and it's the sixty nine games, how many blocks
- 1:30:01did he have? Two hundred and forty five? Damn? And then we're
- 1:30:06gonna look at the steels per game along with the rest of the defensive of
- 1:30:10the Year candidates Rudy Gobert point six, Bam Abadiah one point one, Jared
- 1:30:15Allen's zero point seven, Anthony Davis one point two, Victor Wi Minyama one
- 1:30:20point three. More than all of them. Blocks per game Rudy Gobert two
- 1:30:25point one, bam Abadiah one point one block, Jared Allen one point two,
- 1:30:30Anthony Davis two point four, Victor and Banyama three point five. The
- 1:30:35ring that defensive rating when the player is off the court or when they're on
- 1:30:43the court. The Victor and Minyama they in point to a negative. They
- 1:30:47improve to a negative twelve point defensive rating when he's off. No, they
- 1:30:51have a negative twelve point defensive rating when he's off the court. Rudy Gobert
- 1:30:56negative four point one, Bam Abbadio negative six point four, Jared Allen negative
- 1:31:01point one. And as far as I think Davis, they get better when
- 1:31:04he's off the court with plus one point five. So he's not even in
- 1:31:08the same stratosphere. And then we're gonna look at this other stuff right here,
- 1:31:13he's averaging four point eight blocks per game over the last twenty one games
- 1:31:16of the season. He's leading the NBA in stocks with four point eight stocks,
- 1:31:20and over the last fifteen Defensive Player of the Years winners, he has
- 1:31:26more than all of them, and he's the only player to clear four over
- 1:31:29four of those per game. It's not even close who the best defensive player
- 1:31:31of the year. Who the best defensive player in the league is, and
- 1:31:34he should be Defensive Player of the Year based off all of this well,
- 1:31:39and like Draymond Green said, when a guy drives, when people drive into
- 1:31:44the paint and see wimpy, they go the other direction, that counts as
- 1:31:47a block. Also, Draymond Green said it himself. He said, when
- 1:31:53they change their defense when he's in the middle of the when they change their
- 1:31:56offensive the middle paint, when they change their sense of direction, when they
- 1:31:58throw ball out of bounds, when when they turn over the ball, when
- 1:32:00they get in without winby even touching the ball, that count. That should
- 1:32:03count towards who he is as defensive Player of the year. He does.
- 1:32:06No one strikes the same amount of fear as he does in the NBA.
- 1:32:11Again, I get you one hundred percent, has damn good He has a
- 1:32:16damn good case of winning it. But still two blocks a game and having
- 1:32:23the best defensive rating. That's still it's not Wimby stats, but it is
- 1:32:28very damn impressive what Rudy Gobert is doing, because you saw a big difference
- 1:32:32between not that impressive, it's not that impressive. It's not that impressive.
- 1:32:38Again, again, it's not Wimby numbers, but it's damn impressive. And
- 1:32:43records do matter. I know I talked about MVP, but at least make
- 1:32:46the goddamn playoffs here. If if Weiby, if Winby made the playoffs,
- 1:32:51then it would be something different here. I would be on the side of
- 1:32:55of Wimby too, don't get me wrong, but yeah, it is between
- 1:33:00those two. And again I'm not mad if you pick Wimby, but Rudy
- 1:33:03Gobert, in my opinion, he's gonna win Defensive Player of the Year.
- 1:33:06But I just think the stats. I understand the stats. Yeah, player,
- 1:33:11that's crazy, way too much. It's just way too much. Yeah,
- 1:33:16no, I get that one hundred percent. The next between year two
- 1:33:23of Wimby to year year twelve, we're gonna like we talked about yesterday,
- 1:33:30it's gonna be Victor, Wimbin and Yama versus the rest of the field.
- 1:33:34As far as Defensive Player of the Year favorites, that's how it's gonna be
- 1:33:39from this point forward. I'm pretty sure if there's early odds for Defensive Player
- 1:33:43of the Year next year, Wimby he's minus nine hundred or whatever. They
- 1:33:48just better not do him like they did my boy Tim Duncan. How many
- 1:33:51Defensive Player of the years did he win? Zero? And he has the
- 1:33:56most all defensive teams in the NBA history. That's crazy, that's crazy.
- 1:34:00I did not know that he finished second. He finished second like ten times
- 1:34:04or something like that. That's crazy, that's crazy. But no, he
- 1:34:10Wimby is definitely gonna win one. He's definitely gonna win. It's gonna win
- 1:34:14like they're gonna name it after him. If we'redy go, Bear is getting
- 1:34:15four and Wemby doubled everything he's done in one season. He's gonna win more
- 1:34:20than four. Oh, I don't Wemby will win seven Defensive Player of the
- 1:34:29Years when it's all said and done and right, that's a bold take.
- 1:34:32Holy crap, that's a that's a very bold call me right here. And
- 1:34:36he's gonna be the greatest defensive player that ever lived in any generation. Remember
- 1:34:41we talked about the all time blocks record that team holds. It's three thousand,
- 1:34:46eight hundred and thirty something like that. I think has a crazy rookie
- 1:34:50year. Yeah, I think that Wimby has a damn good chance of breaking
- 1:34:55that record. He has a damn good chance. But you heard him here
- 1:34:59first, he will win as many defensive Player of the Year as Tom Brady
- 1:35:02has rings. My goodness, I just need to bookmark this just so,
- 1:35:10just so I could go back on this. But let's go in and get
- 1:35:15into six Man of the Year. I feel like this is just a two
- 1:35:17man race right here. Well most of these are two man races right here.
- 1:35:23So in my opinion, this goes down to Malik Monk and nas Reed.
- 1:35:28And I was gonna give it to Malik Monk, but after he got
- 1:35:31hurt and how nas Red He's really stepped up in Carl Anthony Town's absence,
- 1:35:38I have to give it to nas Reed here him being the sixth Man of
- 1:35:41the Year. And like we mentioned against the Lakers thirty one points there's offensively,
- 1:35:47he's up there with any center not named Joki Jambid Karl Anthony Towns like
- 1:35:53the great centers, any other center. He's right there. He could be.
- 1:35:56Arguably if it wasn't for Rudy gober Aaron Karl Anthony Towns being on his
- 1:36:00team, he'd be a starter anywhere else for a majority of the league.
- 1:36:05About twenty five. I would argue nas Reed played better against Wimby than Rudy
- 1:36:10Gobert and Crone Towns played against Wimby. I really would. I watched,
- 1:36:15I watch every game. Yeah, Like, I really would argue he played
- 1:36:16better against him than those two other guys. Did. I don't know.
- 1:36:21I didn't turn on a Timble Woolves and Spurs game, so so yeah,
- 1:36:26I know, I'll just have to take your word for that. But you're
- 1:36:29agreeing with me nas Reed six Man of the Year. I couldn't pick between
- 1:36:32the two, to be honest. It's like I don't really have an answer
- 1:36:36just because nas Reed has been so good. He really has. But Malik
- 1:36:40Munk, what he was doing before he got hurt was also just really great,
- 1:36:44Like he was a great great when Darren Fox need break, Malik Monk
- 1:36:48really took the reins and played that two man game with dumont Ce Sabonis very
- 1:36:53well. But he also let the second unit very well also, especially having
- 1:36:56the efficiency he had kind of from the three point range. I believe thirty
- 1:37:00eight percent from the three Yeah, and then and then just what he was
- 1:37:04able to do throughout the whole year. I do think he should still get
- 1:37:08some love and be the sixth Men of the Year. But Nasreed also deserves
- 1:37:11the case also because he is healthy and he's on the number one seed and
- 1:37:15leading and being deficient while doing it. Yeah, no question. But this
- 1:37:23last award that we're going to get into before we get into the All NBA
- 1:37:26teams is Coach of the Year. So I'll let you go first on this
- 1:37:32right here, Who do you think the coach of the Year is? Mine
- 1:37:35hasn't changed from what it was in the offseason. It's gonna be Mark Dognall
- 1:37:40from the Oklahoma City Thunder, their third in the West fifty three and twenty
- 1:37:45five along with the second youngest team in the NBA. And then he's fourth
- 1:37:48their fourth offensive rating, their fourth and the offensive rating is sixth in the
- 1:37:53in defensive rating. What he has done with the Thunder is very great.
- 1:37:57He has to start in SGA and he's allowing him to run and he's letting
- 1:38:00all these guys find their roles and really be I don't know how, and
- 1:38:04they're all productive in their roles within this team. They all know what they
- 1:38:08need to do. Especially I don't know, I hate on him, he's
- 1:38:11just chick home. Grin very well to allow the open space for the rest
- 1:38:14of the players. On the rest of the players on the team, they
- 1:38:16Jalen Williams is really coming into his own. He could be most improved player
- 1:38:19if we really wanted to argue that also, So it's it's just they're all
- 1:38:25they're all gravitating towards what he's putting together in Oklahoma City, and that's why
- 1:38:30for me, he's the coach of the year. Yeah, so we're not
- 1:38:33going to talk about my coach of the year and Adrian Griffin. I thought
- 1:38:40it was a smart pick, but I have to agree with you right here,
- 1:38:43Mark Dagnall, he is the coach of the year. But a close
- 1:38:45second is Chris Finch from the Minnesota tim Wolves. Here again, these are
- 1:38:50the two teams in the West. You're battling against the Nuggets, but I
- 1:38:56think age it plays a factor here the Timbwolves, there are a much older
- 1:38:59team, mores experienced team, compared to the thunder and even Mark Dagnall,
- 1:39:02He's not who Adrian Griffin, that's gonna be one of my worst. That's
- 1:39:14gonna go down as one of my worst. Takes hey to be fair,
- 1:39:18Adrian Griffin, he was on pace because Doc Rivers had that All Star got
- 1:39:24the All Star head coach, which was a bunch of bs. That was
- 1:39:28a bunch of bs. Even Dwayne Casey wanted to Coach of the Year and
- 1:39:31got fired. I'm just saying, yeah, that's true, that's true.
- 1:39:35But let's go in and get into the first Team All NBA here and which
- 1:39:45it's positionless. They just changed this last year and you have to have a
- 1:39:48sixty five game criteria. Well for all these awards in general, but especially
- 1:39:54All NBA where it becomes more important. So I think we should have the
- 1:39:59same list for first Team All NBA. But who's your first Team All NBA?
- 1:40:04Luka, Dantic, Shake Godess, Alexander Joannis, Nikola, Jokic and
- 1:40:12Jalen Brunson. Is my first Team All NBA this year? Okay, So
- 1:40:17the only one I don't agree with you on is Jalen Brunson. I have
- 1:40:20Jason Tatum there Okay, I believe. I believe he was the next option,
- 1:40:26any option. Yeah, it was. It was damn it was damn
- 1:40:30closed. I was very tempted to do that, but I just feel like,
- 1:40:34HM, go ahead, look at what Jason Tatum's working with, and
- 1:40:38look at what Chilean Brunton is working with and what he's able to do for
- 1:40:42me. That's why what gave him the edge as first team All NBA and
- 1:40:45Jason Tatum will be second team All NBA for me, like it was literally
- 1:40:48the cusp, but it was just Jilen Brunson. What he's having to do
- 1:40:53as compared to Jason Tatum is just not the same. Yeah, I agree
- 1:40:57with you here and all right, next we're gonna get into All Defensive Team,
- 1:41:03first team All Defense. Little harder, a little harder. This this
- 1:41:08one is was a lot tougher here. So Josh, I'll let you list
- 1:41:11yours first. I put s g A. I think that's kind of a
- 1:41:16given. He let the NBA and still is a great, great perimeter defender.
- 1:41:20Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis, I get they get better without him off
- 1:41:25the court. I said that earlier, but he's still pretty dominant paint wise
- 1:41:29when he is on the court. Yeah, with the blocks and and altering
- 1:41:33shots and really changing offensive focus when he is on there. Yeah, we
- 1:41:40got ready Gobert the second, the second greatest, the second Frenchman to ever,
- 1:41:45greatest Frenchman ever come from France. I guess would he be Nope,
- 1:41:50No, he's third, He's third, He's definitely he's fourth. He's fourth.
- 1:41:57Oh yeah, fifth, he's actually fifth now he said Joel and b
- 1:42:01he's fifth. He's moving down my list quite well. He moves all the
- 1:42:05way from two to five. He's not better than Boris d l that's for
- 1:42:10sure, So for me, stop it. But yeah, Rudy Gobert,
- 1:42:16I'm gonna go with Herb Jones. You kind of talked me into it.
- 1:42:18He has a great defender. He's kind of like the next Tony Allen.
- 1:42:21I think I want to make that comparison. I think that's a great comparison,
- 1:42:25like very feisty. They're not a role player, like can be a
- 1:42:29star just based off defensive output alone. And I think that's what Herb Jones
- 1:42:32brings to the tape. He can guard any team's best player and really put
- 1:42:34up his own. But as far as for me, I'm gonna go with
- 1:42:39Victor Winbinyama as my last pick as All Defensive Player of the Year. And
- 1:42:43y'all know why. Y'all heard why earlier. So that's that's my five SGA
- 1:42:46Herb Jones eighty, Victor Win Binyama, and Rudy Gobert. So for mine
- 1:42:53right here, as far as so I have, I have three guards right
- 1:42:56here, I have three guards. So first one, Shay, I definitely
- 1:43:00do agree with that. Then I'm gonna have Jalen Suggs and Derek White.
- 1:43:05Both of those guys have been guarding the best defense or best offensive player and
- 1:43:13they're both on damn good teams and lead one of the best defenses in the
- 1:43:17league. And it starts with them. Jalen Suggs, He's made an incredible
- 1:43:21comeback from looking like he wasn't gonna be anything and now becoming an All defensive
- 1:43:27player and a role and a role player. But then this is where I
- 1:43:31have. I think I'd rather have Gobert at the five and Wimby at the
- 1:43:36four in this situation. Yeah, that's what I have. Yeah, so
- 1:43:41I have Wimby and Rudy Gobert. But yeah, Herb Jones, he barely
- 1:43:46missed my list. And Jaden McDaniels. That's a guy that that I was
- 1:43:51tempted to put on this list. But I just couldn't over these guards right
- 1:43:56here. I felt like they deserved more recognition. But okay, I I
- 1:44:01know we didn't discuss this. I kind of want to do this second team
- 1:44:05all NBA. I don't have this prepared either, Okay, but just off
- 1:44:10the top of your head, I think so I didn't have j T i'd
- 1:44:15probably have Okay, oh, you go first, you go first. I'd
- 1:44:19probably say Brunson, Jalen Brunson, Anthony Anthony Edwards, KD DEMONTA Sabonis he's
- 1:44:31had a damn good year. I'd say Sabonis. Oh, Lebron, Lebron
- 1:44:38or a D. Victor Lebron or a D. I'm gonna have to say
- 1:44:45Lebron. I'd say Lebron would be on the second team, but they're still
- 1:44:50staph Bam. That's tough. I have to write it down. Yeah,
- 1:44:56that that's the Jason Tatum and ay D. Yeah, I'll go Katie.
- 1:45:12It's tough. Second team. That's where it starts to get really tough there.
- 1:45:17Yeah, I'd have to, I'd have to agree with the bonus.
- 1:45:24And then lebron ad Lebron, Lebron A D. Who you picking a D
- 1:45:32this year? A D? Okay, I'm not mad at that. I'm
- 1:45:36not mad at that. I'm not mad at thirteen. Though Whimby's on my
- 1:45:42third team. I'm trying to think Devin Booker. Yeah, Steph, that's
- 1:45:53for sure, Bam bam, Jalen Brown, Jaylen Brown. Yeah, ooh,
- 1:46:03that's maybe maybe Wimby because who's going over him? Evan? Are you
- 1:46:10putting Evan Mobley above him? I'm I'm not putting Evan Mobley above him.
- 1:46:15I just feel like I just feel like I'm missing a name. People,
- 1:46:17they're probably screaming, it's this guy. You're completely forgetting about this guy.
- 1:46:23Well, people, Joelnbiid cannot make it is that's who you are. Joel
- 1:46:26Embiid, he can't make it. I'm looking right now. Maybe no way.
- 1:46:31Does Zion fit the criteria. He's missed a lot, He's played sixty
- 1:46:39six games. Zion would fit the criteria. Kawhi, there's Kawhi too,
- 1:46:45Yeah, Kawhi, Kyrie Tyree Smaxy. Yeah, No, he don't make
- 1:46:49it. It's close though, there's only four or five guys that that fit
- 1:46:56above Wimby realistically. But do you want to go ahead and move on to
- 1:47:01one of our last things right here? Yep, we can do it,
- 1:47:05okay. So one of this last things with the NBA season ending is things
- 1:47:12we learned throughout the NBA season, And the first thing that we learn is
- 1:47:15that the Thunder the Thunders rebuild slash revamp after the Westbrook KD Paul George era.
- 1:47:23It didn't take long and they won the against or they won the trade
- 1:47:28against the Clippers, so obviously that massive trade for Paul George. Then they
- 1:47:35traded away Russ to Houston. But I feel like this stood out the most
- 1:47:42right here. I don't know about you, Josh, because nobody expected this
- 1:47:45turnaround from the Thunder. I didn't expect it this year, at least I
- 1:47:51expected it maybe next year or the year after sure, just only through their
- 1:47:56age. But I do think they have a good set of players who really
- 1:48:00what's the wory I'm looking for again? I don't know why I'm getting lost
- 1:48:03with my words today, but they they really make each other. I'm just
- 1:48:10gonna say they make each other better at what they do. I don't know,
- 1:48:12like SGA leading the charging defensively, and they do have like the perfect
- 1:48:16defensive setup for a team for their age, like where they're able to play
- 1:48:21fast, they have great link when it comes to their arms and all that,
- 1:48:26so they're able. They're able to guard the paint and then Check does
- 1:48:31his own. Check gets his own defensively when it comes to protecting the paint
- 1:48:35a little bit, he's not. He kind of fell off a little bit
- 1:48:38to what he was at the beginning of the season. But they are all
- 1:48:42able to coincide with each other very well. I do, so I do.
- 1:48:45Everything was just set up perfectly for them, and they still have plenty
- 1:48:47of draft picks to go, so they're not done. And one thing about
- 1:48:54them is that they have sixteen You see them making a move for another star
- 1:48:58this offseason with how they're at right now. This is what sucks about the
- 1:49:03Thunder in my opinion, is that they're so young and they're growing together.
- 1:49:09Why would you want to put a star around them and kind of mess up
- 1:49:12the dynamics there because he could be a star. He could be a star
- 1:49:17in his own role. You see what I'm saying. I don't know,
- 1:49:24I just feel like this team is so young, and Jalen Williams he's becoming
- 1:49:28that number two. It could kind of just hurt them more. It's kind
- 1:49:31of too much of a good thing. Does that make sense? There's too
- 1:49:38there's too much talent on one team. But all right, next thing right
- 1:49:42here is at least, at least for me, I'm gonna say it,
- 1:49:46this is very clear cut and dry. Anthony Edwards he's a bona fide superstar
- 1:49:51and he's barely twenty two dead ass. That's how the guy float in the
- 1:49:55air for four seconds in San Antonio. The ball he's definitely a superstar.
- 1:50:00Yeah, and twenty six points a game, five assists, five rebounds,
- 1:50:03forty six percent from the field, thirty six percent from three, eighty three
- 1:50:09percent from the free throw line. I don't think nobody expected this much of
- 1:50:14a jump. And this is the reason why the Timberwolves they're the one seed
- 1:50:17right now, is because this massive jump that Anthony Edwards took. And no,
- 1:50:24okay, I agree, Oh, keep going, I keep moving.
- 1:50:28Okay, the next one, I'll let you talk about this. This this
- 1:50:31at least how I feel the Warriors dynasty is officially over. It is sad
- 1:50:41to say it, but it is. But I will say they have I
- 1:50:46get you said it before and I didn't completely agree, but not because of
- 1:50:50Jonathan Camina. Why like and like these other players that you said before.
- 1:50:55It's really because what's his name, number thirty two, the big man dumb
- 1:50:59with me, Jackson Davis him. Yeah, he's gonna be a star.
- 1:51:04I will say right now, I think he's gonna be a good player in
- 1:51:06this league. I think he has the analyticism, he plays very great defense,
- 1:51:11he can run the court. I do think because of him, Steph's
- 1:51:14gonna play a little bit longer for the Warriors. Right, So the dynasty's
- 1:51:17over, but they can transition into a younger team for sure. Now,
- 1:51:21Yeah, I definitely see that. But as far as them being you're and
- 1:51:27you're out title contender, yeah, not that no more. Yeah. I
- 1:51:30feel like even if they do make the playoffs this year, if they survive
- 1:51:33the play in, nobody's gonna be like the Warriors are definitely winning the championship.
- 1:51:39Now, nobody's gonna expect that. They're not maybe second round at best,
- 1:51:44but still nobody's gonna expect that. And next one right here, I
- 1:51:49know this one's a little bit controversial. Josh, I don't know if you're
- 1:51:53gonna agree with this one. If Zion is healthy, the Pelicans are contenders
- 1:51:59for years to come to be determined. Are you basing that based off of
- 1:52:12you need to see this playoff run by Zion? Mm hmm, yeah,
- 1:52:15I need to see what it looks like. We've never seen it, so
- 1:52:19I don't know. I can't really tell you mm hmm, like whether I
- 1:52:24do think that they're going to be a title contender or not, because we're
- 1:52:26not going to see how And then plus is Brandon Ingram healthy? You know?
- 1:52:31So yeah, that that plays a lot into it also for me.
- 1:52:34Okay, I got a scenario for you, say, if the Pelicans they
- 1:52:39make it to the Western Conference finals this year with Brandon and Ingram barely coming
- 1:52:44back, they're contenders. Yeah, they would be have to. They would
- 1:52:46have to because they're great defensively, they are, Yeah, I do think
- 1:52:49on the perimeter wise, So it's just it's just kind of one extra piece
- 1:52:56I do because of aging. Jonahs Valanciunis probably could be a little you could
- 1:53:00grade right there, just a little bit just based off youth, but other
- 1:53:03than that I can see that. I can see them being a title contender.
- 1:53:09Okay, the next one right here, Jalen Brown was worth every penny
- 1:53:20if they win a championship. Okay, now now let me give you give
- 1:53:27you my reasoning here. Jalen Brown, he's gotten better year after year after
- 1:53:30year, and there's been stretches ever since this All Star break where yeah,
- 1:53:36no, no question, dud, you get paid that much of super Max.
- 1:53:40But there's been times after this All Star break where Jalen Brown has looked
- 1:53:45like the best player on the Celtics, who have been the most team in
- 1:53:48the league. No again, I get you, he is. The thing
- 1:53:55is, you pay people big money to win championship, so the contracts aren't
- 1:53:59worth it unless they give you one. That's just me. M hm.
- 1:54:01The contract can't work it unless they give you one. Okay, So this
- 1:54:05is to be determined then for you. Huh yeah, another one to be
- 1:54:09determined Okay, So they can still blow it up. They could still be
- 1:54:13like, you know what, this isn't working. These two guys aren't working
- 1:54:16together for us. So yeah you know, m hm, yeah, okay,
- 1:54:20I get your point. I get your point. Next one, I'm
- 1:54:25pretty sure you're gonna agree with this one. For sure. Wimby might be
- 1:54:30better than any rookie we've ever seen. Defensively, it's because Hackeen had a
- 1:54:39great rookie year. I'm not counting, to be honest, Duncan or David
- 1:54:44Robinson as rookies. Why not? They were both like twenty four years old,
- 1:54:50like twenty three years old when they were rookies. So you're you're taking
- 1:54:55out a lot of rookies then, like Michael Jordan's rookie year because he was
- 1:55:00like twenty three I period, No, he he probably, but Duncan I
- 1:55:15think his rookie year. Mm hmm. Okay, okay, I'm saying as
- 1:55:20far as just in the individual individual yeah, individually, as far as not
- 1:55:28team success wise, just individually the player, I feel like Wimby just as
- 1:55:31a rookie. Yeah, okay, well, okay, I completely forgot about
- 1:55:40Kareem Kareem winning MVP is rookie year. I completely forgot about that. K
- 1:55:44I have to be Kareem. I'll be humble when I have to be humble.
- 1:55:49I think it's Kareem Kareem definitely him or Duncan Kareem or Duncan would have
- 1:55:54to be for me. Tim Duncan did make first Team All NBA his rookie
- 1:55:57year. Yes, okay, okay, the next one right here, The
- 1:56:01sixty five game criteria worked out perfectly, and the reason why hold on,
- 1:56:09hold on, hold on. But going back to that point, Wimby is
- 1:56:12everything they said he was gonna be exactly, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
- 1:56:17everything, But Korean played in an era where he was able to win
- 1:56:20MVP, and then Tim Duncan came in already polished to a good team,
- 1:56:27to a great team, so he was also able to establish himself easier than
- 1:56:31Wimby. But Winby lived up to everything. So let's put that right there.
- 1:56:35Wimby lived up to everything they said he was going to be. Yeah,
- 1:56:39okay, that I guess that's the point that I was trying to get
- 1:56:42across. But yeah, this next point that I just said, the sixty
- 1:56:46five game criteria worked out perfect And here's here's two reasons. For me.
- 1:56:51We saw more key matchups and we saw stars play more games due to the
- 1:56:59incentives. No, I believe that it should have been a thing a long
- 1:57:04time ago for me, I do think. I don't I don't agree with
- 1:57:08players. I don't know. There was just a lot of times where I
- 1:57:11feel like players shouldn't have won awards just because they didn't play enough. I
- 1:57:13do think it worked. It worked out because on the flip side, I
- 1:57:18know it's a different sport, but if we look at the NFL, if
- 1:57:21a player misses half the season, they're not winning an award. Yeah exactly.
- 1:57:26Yeah, Justin Jefferson statistically might be Offensive Player of the Year, but
- 1:57:30he's not. He didn't win the award this year, you know, So
- 1:57:32it's just, yeah, it's got to be fair. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:57:38durability. It's only fair for the NBA to do the same thing because a
- 1:57:42player just can't sit out and hope to win an award, because it's just
- 1:57:45not fair to the other guys who played the whole season and averaged the same
- 1:57:48amount. But since you had a couple more better games than them within a
- 1:57:54sixty two a fifty eight game stretch, yeah you get award for a guy
- 1:57:59that played seventy five games. It's just not fair. Yeah exactly. But
- 1:58:03all right, this next one right here, I don't know if you're gonna
- 1:58:06agree with this one. You're not the biggest Rudy Gobert fan. But after
- 1:58:11this year, I'm officially saying that the Rudy Gobert trade was actually a great
- 1:58:16move by the Minnesota Temple Wolves. Okay, I'm not saying I'm not a
- 1:58:23Rudy Gobert fan, but when it comes to defending my guy, no one,
- 1:58:27I'm not a fan of no one else. That's just me. But
- 1:58:30like Chet, no, I never liked Check. But as far as Rudy
- 1:58:34Gobert, I like Rudy Gobert. I do like Rudy Gobert. Let's not
- 1:58:39get that right, because if the US goes out, you know who I'm
- 1:58:42going for, all right, the US is out, you know who I'm
- 1:58:45going for. Or I don't know. Maybe if the US does play my
- 1:58:47guy, you know who I'm going for. So but argument we had,
- 1:58:56yeah, we argued, Wait wait wait, you can go for friends?
- 1:59:00Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not gonna talk about them on air.
- 1:59:02But yeah, you're contradicted, your contradicted. But but if USA ain't
- 1:59:13in there, you know who I'm going for. But if Rudy Gobert has
- 1:59:17to set out another playoff series, then it's not worth it. But don't
- 1:59:25you think this is turned the Tembolves into an actual contender for these next two
- 1:59:30three years. I mean last year. Okay, I get it is different
- 1:59:34this year that they are more efficient defensively, that they figured out how it
- 1:59:39works. So it could be the thing is, yeah, you just gave
- 1:59:44up so much. It's it's it's worth it. I do think he's living
- 1:59:46up to what you build him out to be, this great defensive player,
- 1:59:49and that's what he is doing and that's what they wanted. So I will
- 1:59:51say the trade did work out for them. Okay, they are the number
- 1:59:56one seed. They got better. It helped, it helps Anthony edwar Words
- 2:00:00not do too much. So yeah, okay, then I got three three
- 2:00:06more things. So this next one's kind of funny. Draymond Green knocked the
- 2:00:14talent out of Jordan Poole. Yes, we're gonna we're gonna just move on
- 2:00:20to the next one I had. I had. It's something like that,
- 2:00:25all right, this next one. As far as things learned from the season,
- 2:00:30the best players in the league are foreign players and it's okay, and
- 2:00:34we have to come to realization about it. Well, did you see that
- 2:00:39Adam Silver is gonna switch to us versus International. He's gonna bring it up.
- 2:00:44They're gonna vote on it. Really. Yeah, for the All Star
- 2:00:47Game, o Man International would wax the floor with Team USA. Yeah,
- 2:00:58you're bringing the best players all together from every Yeah, probably Luca Shay,
- 2:01:03Luka Jokic, Giannie Embiid Wimby. That's already six. Jamal Murray Instagram.
- 2:01:17All right, we're gonna just move past that, keep moving. Who's who's
- 2:01:23another foreign player that's that's already seven. There's a lot we're just not Yeah,
- 2:01:30we we just can't. We just can't think right now. But yeah,
- 2:01:33so so you agree on that premise, right, Chris stops there's Chris
- 2:01:39Stops two. But yeah, it's just clear cut now that the foreign the
- 2:01:46best players are the foreign players in America. There's a there's a big gap
- 2:01:51now and this last one right here, it's just things I learned throughout the
- 2:01:59season, appreciating greatness. Lebron James at thirty nine years old, what he's
- 2:02:04doing is unprecedented. But one thing that's going right now, and okay,
- 2:02:11perfect example of this game right here. So two other people that are thirty
- 2:02:16six years old and older, Kevin Durant and Steph Curry. We've kind of
- 2:02:21gotten numb to the fact that we're seeing Lebron do some stuff like this,
- 2:02:27that when we see Kdan KD and Steph Curry doing this, we're kind of
- 2:02:30immune to this. It's like, oh, well, they should be doing
- 2:02:33this. Most players when they get to thirty six, thirty seven years old,
- 2:02:39they're not all NBA type of players. Let's be real. And that's
- 2:02:46the last takeaway that I have from the NBA season. I don't know if
- 2:02:50you have one, Josh, that you want to wanted to throw out there
- 2:02:53real quick. Now we covered pretty much everything, like, I don't know
- 2:03:02what more we could talk about. Yeah, all right, well, before
- 2:03:08we end this episode, we're gonna just do a quick game. So no
- 2:03:12fantasy draft this week, but we're gonna do blind rankings as far as players
- 2:03:15one through five and we both have to agree on this. So first one
- 2:03:21we have right here is Steph Curry one one. Okay, well, okay,
- 2:03:36I kind of already put it. Yeah, I already put it at
- 2:03:40one. All right, Well, keep it moving. We will keep it
- 2:03:42moving. Next next one is Jalen Brown. I kind of want to yeah,
- 2:03:47I'll say I like four, right, here. Next one is Trey
- 2:03:53Young. This has to be five, right, yeah, five. This
- 2:04:00next one is Jared Jackson Junior. Three. We have to put him at
- 2:04:04three, and number two is Nicola Jokic two. So we have Steph Curry,
- 2:04:14Jaron Jackson Junior, Jalen Brown trade all time. This could be all
- 2:04:17time, It could wait. You would have Jaron Jackson Junior over Jalen Brown.
- 2:04:25Defensive Player of the Year is Jalen Brown. That's true. Okay,
- 2:04:30next one we have, we're starting a brand new one. Bradley Bill.
- 2:04:35I feel like four at this point three or four three or at this point
- 2:04:40in his career. Yeah, it's we're going off right now. Yeah,
- 2:04:44four, Joel Embiid, I kind of feel like I kind of feel like
- 2:04:50two right here. I feel like Jokice or Luca or somebody's I don't mind
- 2:04:57one. We could argue one. He's an MVP. Yeah, okay,
- 2:05:02we'll put one two or next one is Jalen Brown two or three he's above
- 2:05:11Bradley Bill. So yeah, it's either two way three, three, three.
- 2:05:15Okay. That's saving the space for like if someone does come through,
- 2:05:20we put him at. So next one is the mar De Rozan. I
- 2:05:25feel like we have to put him at five here. Two. You have
- 2:05:29them better than Ja Michael Jordan. I forgot he's a He's a modern day
- 2:05:36version of m J. He's five, he'd be five five. Next one
- 2:05:44is Luka Doncic. Two. That works out. I think that works out.
- 2:05:47It kind of does work out. It does it does? It does
- 2:05:51work out? All right? Next one we have right here, Sga two.
- 2:06:00I feel comfortable at two here the Aaron Fox. I feel like four
- 2:06:05four four Lucas weird putting them at four. Yeah, Luca is one one.
- 2:06:14I feel comfortable one. Devin Booker. I feel like this is three
- 2:06:18is perfect? Number five is okay? This is our best one. Five
- 2:06:25this this is our best one. Yeah, this, this was our best
- 2:06:28one. Right here? This is our best one. Luca one s J.
- 2:06:30Devin Booker, dearon Fox, Joahn Moran. Do you remember when they
- 2:06:35put Roger and Rondo underneath John Morant for all time point guards? Yes?
- 2:06:41I remember that. That was ridiculous. That was that was ridiculous. All
- 2:06:46right, well we'll do a couple more so this one right here Jannis at
- 2:06:56one one, Okay, I feel like somebody else. I feel like Joki
- 2:07:01is gonna pop out. Zion Williamson three, three, three, James High,
- 2:07:12James Harden five, five or four four for for the whole body of
- 2:07:20work. He's two yeah, no, but this is right now, Yeah,
- 2:07:25this is right now. Four four John Morant five. Five. Number
- 2:07:32two is Jaron Jackson Jr. Okay, that kind that that kind of messed
- 2:07:40it up, that kind of messed it up, right there. Yeah,
- 2:07:43all right, last one. We gotta make this one count. Okay,
- 2:07:46Okay, this this first one's tough. Paul George. I'm feeling like,
- 2:07:53yeah, okay, put him in the middle. Three. Jalen Brown is
- 2:07:59Jalen Jalen Brown is better than Paul George, though, right I think so?
- 2:08:03Yes, I have to say Jayleen, ooh yeah, Jalen Brown.
- 2:08:09I think Paul George is better than Jalen Brown to this day. Okay,
- 2:08:15we could go Jalen Brown four, but we have that one and two spot
- 2:08:18open, so we really need somebody good next week. James Harden, we
- 2:08:24have to put him five. Five, We have five. We have to
- 2:08:28get a look. Chris Paul two. One, we have to let's just
- 2:08:35let's just put him one. Number two is Giannis damn it, damn it.
- 2:08:41Okay, okay, okay, okay, I can't go like that.
- 2:08:46Yeah, yeah, we can't go on like that. Okay, LaMelo ball.
- 2:08:50This has to be far or five? Right? Yeah? Five?
- 2:08:54Did Jonce Moore Murray? Four? Right? Four? Yeah? Kevin Durant,
- 2:09:01Oh, I'm thinking. I'm thinking too, Yeah, I'm thinking too.
- 2:09:05Right here, Lebron James one. I feel like we need that one
- 2:09:16spot open right now. I think he's better than KD. Okay, we'll
- 2:09:24put Lebron in one, but this three needs to be like a Paul George,
- 2:09:28Jalen Brown, Jaron Jackson Jr. Or somebody like that. Okay,
- 2:09:33it's gonna be Please shake Geogis Alexander. Damn it, it was Shay how
- 2:09:43you look at it all time? Yes? All right, all right,
- 2:09:50yeah, no, let's go ahead and wrap up this episode. Josh,
- 2:09:54do you have anything else you want to say before we end it? Are
- 2:09:58we gonna do so called sports analysts? Real quick? So called sports Oh,
- 2:10:01so called I completely forgot about it. I'm not gonna lie to you,
- 2:10:07but all right, yeah, again we do our so called MVPs of
- 2:10:11the week. So, Josh, who's your so called MVP of the week.
- 2:10:15It's gonna be Tyrese Maxi. For me, I watched him score fifty
- 2:10:18two home my favorite team, and he scored thirty seven the other night.
- 2:10:20So I'm gonna go with Tyrese Maxey as my so called MVP of the week.
- 2:10:24So who my so called MVP is gonna be is Kyrie Irving? And
- 2:10:30especially after yesterday what he did against the Rockets. This dude, he was
- 2:10:35just cooking in the fourth quarter forty eight points. Dude was just bawling.
- 2:10:39And the Rockets they have some of the best primitive defenders, but obviously that
- 2:10:43didn't matter. Yeah, they got Kyrie. Yeah, But anything else you
- 2:10:48want to say before we wrap it up. No, we said everything we
- 2:10:54needed to say in this part. Yeah, no, we definitely did.
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