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⚖️ John Kiriakou & Ian Trottier on CIA Secrets, John Brennan Allegations & High Stakes Treason | Michael Jaco · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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  All right, here we go.
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  Hello everyone.
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  It's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets of Ian Trottier
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  Back again with High Stakes, treason.
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  And we have another guest, uh, CI whistleblower, John Raku.
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  Is that or ki is that right?
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  Ak
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  Ku Raku.
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  Alright.
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  Raku.
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  I've, uh, that's a great Greek name.
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  I love it.
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  Uh, so, uh, we're gonna let, uh, John introduce himself a little bit.
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  He's got a phenomenal background.
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  Uh, I worked in the CIA and i, I think he's amazing guy from, uh, the
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  stuff he's been telling me so far.
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  So we're gonna talk about uh, John Brennan and we all have, uh, you
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  know, dealings with him and we, uh, we're gonna basically dime him out.
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  So, John, give us a little bit back about your background.
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  Sure.
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  I'm John Ku.
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  I spent, um, 15 years at the CIA, uh, the first half of my career
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  in analysis, the second half in counter-terrorism operations.
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  I was the chief of counter-terrorism operations in Pakistan After nine 11,
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  finished my career at the un and then blew the whistle on the CIA's torture program,
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  which came back to haunt me later.
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  I I went on to be the chief investigator on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
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  but then was arrested under the Obama administration at the, at the insistence
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  at the demand of, uh, John Brennan.
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  Proudly served 23 months in a federal prison.
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  I would do it again today if I had the opportunity.
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  I have zero remorse.
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  I'm glad I did it.
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  John Brennan was a, uh, was a criminal.
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  I think we're all gonna end up agreeing on that today and
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  somebody had to say something.
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  So, um.
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  Since, uh, being released from prison 11 years ago geez.
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  I've written nine books.
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  I teach at two universities.
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  I've got some podcasts.
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  I've got a TV show called The Whistleblowers, where I talk to other
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  whistleblowers, mostly national security whistleblowers around the world.
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  And, uh, and happy to join you guys tonight.
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  Yeah, it was great.
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  Ian, give us a little bit of background about your book and, uh, again.
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  Yeah, so, Michael, appreciate being back on and it's great to
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  be joined, uh, by, uh, by John.
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  John was a, a guest of, uh, discussions of Truth, the podcast I started in Miami
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  back in 2016 probably back in 2018.
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  John, I, uh, I think so kinda one of the early guests on that podcast.
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  And, uh, and Michael, just so you know, the ori originally I approached, uh,
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  Mr. Ku because of his whistle blowing against, uh, the water boarding,
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  uh, during the Bush administration and, and those efforts now.
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  Uh, the background in regards to how it, how, uh, how his, uh, testimonial and
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  experience ties into, uh, high stakes treason is, uh, as viewers may know by
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  now, and certainly, uh, the three of us know, is that, uh, the high stakes
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  treason lays out a criminal scheme, uh, that was conducted by the former
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  head of the CIA while he was serving as a senior advisor to Homeland Security
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  under Barack Obama, uh, to defraud the American people and allow terror events
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  to happen on, uh, Americans, uh, and, and the homeland and the NATO ally.
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  Uh, that sums up pretty much what, what transpires and was laid
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  out in, uh, high stake reason.
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  And now, Michael, uh, general Michael Flynn, uh, was a initial person that
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  I approached to write the forward, uh, to this, uh, to this book.
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  Uh, John followed that Flynn's schedule got busy, but, uh, but John
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  said he'd, he'd write the forward, uh, and as we know, uh, Roger Stone,
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  uh, because of the, uh, the, the kind of the, the political awareness that
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  he has over the, the past 50 years.
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  Uh, has written that main forward, but, uh, uh, just as important
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  are the other two forwards.
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  Uh, one by Brooks Agnew and, and, uh, former speech writer for Alan Keys
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  and of course, uh, one by John Carac.
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  And we are very fortunate to have Carac with us because, uh, because much of the,
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  as you, you just, uh, just heard much of the the history that John had after,
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  uh, he was being, he was, uh, assaulted and, uh, and blamed for being a criminal,
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  uh, and thrown into jail, into prison.
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  This had a lot to do with the malfeasance and the character of, uh, this, uh, this
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  admitted communist, uh, John Brennan.
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  Um, so that's what we're going to lay out today, I believe Michael, for
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  your viewers, is that they understand exactly the impression, uh, that this,
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  uh, character that, uh, became the head of the CIA under Barack Obama.
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  Uh, had on kus, uh, uh, stalwart career serving the American people.
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  And of course, uh, that threading into the contents of the book.
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  But let me briefly mention Zig Brozinsky because if we go back and John be
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  familiar with the Analysis Corporation, if we go back to when Mr. Brennan was
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  a student at the University of Texas, Austin, and he had voted for Gus Hall,
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  that communist, uh, candidate for, uh, for, for US presidency, uh, was an
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  introduction toski around that time.
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  I don't have an exact year that threads in to that of Barack Obama
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  in the early eighties because the three of them seemingly in 2008.
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  In 2008 uh, there was critical information on the passport that was scrubbed.
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  By John Brennan.
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  That's the Barack Obama passport.
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  Between the time that Barack Obama, Michael spent at Occidental College
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  in California, and Columbia Univers, Columbia University in New York,
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  he spent over a year in Pakistan.
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  The question is, what did he do in Pakistan?
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  Why did he exactly go to Pakistan?
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  And why did John Brennan use the analysis corporation and those
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  tools to go in and scrub vital inte information off of that passport during
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  that time that he had in Pakistan?
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  And what were the contents?
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  We still don't know that were on.
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  Excuse me, they were on, on that passport.
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  So I'm just insert that as we proceed here.
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  But that is exactly what, uh, what we'll be laying out here, uh,
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  during, uh, during this conversation.
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  So thanks for having me back on.
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  Fantastic.
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  And, uh, for, uh, John, I, I did a little time in, uh, the ca with,
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  uh, GRS, uh, about about 13 years.
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  And I spent some time in Iraq, Afghanistan PAC, a lot of time in Pakistan.
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  So, uh, very curious to what your thoughts are on, uh, some of those areas.
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  And why was Barack Obama in Pakistan for a year?
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  What the heck?
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  I can't even begin to speculate why in the world he would be in Pakistan.
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  Yeah.
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  At a time when we were actively arming the Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviets.
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  I mean, it was a legit war zone.
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  There were important things taking place.
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  I can't even begin to speculate what in the world he would've been doing there.
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  I can tell you a lot about John Brennan, though.
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  I mean the first, let's get into that.
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  But my, but the first, the first thing that comes to my mind here in regards to
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  Pakistan has exactly to do what you're talking about in the mu madin and and
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  this and, and let's not forget that there, that Al-Qaeda, and maybe John
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  you can contribute to this a little bit, but, but Al-Qaeda and Michael,
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  you may know this, Al-Qaeda far from my understanding, is actually a name of a
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  software a terrorist tracking software.
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  And, and of course it applies to the, the terrorist organiza organization itself.
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  So my, all my question, I haven't looked at this, I haven't looked into this.
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  My question is perhaps that somehow, and, and let's not forget that the
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  Analysis Corporation was created in 1990 as a result of tracking.
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  That when Soviets pulled out of, uh, Afghanistan tracking, creating that
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  database to track terror movement.
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  Um, and so the question in regards to the passport where's,
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  where's this overlapping?
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  How does that have to do with Obama's father?
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  Right?
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  It was in Kenyan and he studied in the US on, on that student,
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  I think it was a student visa.
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  How does that have to do, and, and even the mother, mother threads
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  in a lot of sources say that she was also used as a CIA asset.
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  Is there somehow an involvement that used to cover up kind of the origins of travel
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  of, does it thread in somehow to the, the, the birth certificate controversy at all?
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  Uh, that's, uh, question.
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  It's possible.
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  Certainly it's possible that, that his mother could have been an asset.
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  It's poss possible that his father and or his stepfather could have been assets.
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  Goodness knows.
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  They were, they were well placed to be assets.
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  Yeah.
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  And God knows, he, he's never answered those questions, Obama himself.
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  We have, um, we have something interesting developing that Mandelson
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  Lord Mandelson and not to, not to paint too broadly 'cause I think we
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  should zero in with, uh, with John Brennan here in this conversation.
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  But but Lord Mandelson so, so, uh, so John Brennan, uh, John Brennan has recently
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  testified to members of the UK Parliament.
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  Uh, were you guys aware of that?
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  No.
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  No, no.
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  That's news to me.
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  Yeah, this happened, uh, just a couple weeks ago, I believe.
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  Don't have the exact date, but he, he went over to the uk and we know that
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  Obama has been going back and forth.
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  I don't know if you knew that, but Obama has been going back and
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  forth, uh, to United Kingdom and, and in, in returning to the us.
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  Uh, but John Brennan went over and testified in regards to, uh,
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  uh, surveillance, uh, security to members of the UK Parliament now.
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  After that testimonial, a non-related perhaps, but perhaps related,
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  was, uh, a member of Parliament, uh, being a resigning for, for
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  information that he gave to Epstein, uh, uh, over, over a decade.
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  Over a decade ago.
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  Uh, there's certainly ties.
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  I, I don't know any, any, any ties between Epstein and, and, and, and John Brennan.
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  Um, I, I certainly don't.
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  I found an indirect one yesterday.
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  Huh?
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  You did?
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  I did.
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  Ooh.
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  Yeah.
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  So I went to the DOJ website yesterday, and I searched for, uh, well, I
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  searched for a bunch of things.
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  CIA was one of them.
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  And, um, and one document popped up and it was an email from Catherine
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  ler who was the, uh, the, uh.
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  Deputy White House counsel during Obama and Kathy Roomer, who's now the
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  General Counsel for Goldman Sachs.
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  She sent a one line email to Jeffrey Epstein saying this, here it is.
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  John Brennan gave me the CIA Agency Medal, the CIA's highest award this morning.
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  How cool is that?
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  Why in the name of God would John Brennan give the White House counsel the agency's
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  highest honor, which Michael, as you know, is usually given posthumously.
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  Oh
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  yeah.
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  For people who have given their lives in the line of duty.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I had a couple buddies that did that had get that
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  part.
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  Yeah.
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  As, as did I, two of my colleagues in CTC, Mike Span and hel Gabo
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  Oh, wow.
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  Both killed in action in Afghanistan.
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  Yep.
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  That's how they got their medals.
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  I don't know why she got her medal unless, well, you, you remember, I'm sure the,
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  the Tuesday morning kill list meetings that Brennan, uh, initiated at the White
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  House during the Obama presidency where he would convene this group of people to
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  come together, decide who to kill that, that week the assignments would go out,
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  the teams would fan out around the world.
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  They would kill whoever they were assigned to kill and then come
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  back for the next week's meeting.
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  All I can speculate is that she was the White House representative.
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  'cause there had to be lawyers involved.
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  The CI, a general counsel was in on that meeting and I'm wondering
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  if, uh, if that's what he did.
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  I don't know.
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  He
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  had his hands in, in everything.
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  Literally everything I think is probably my, my most succinct point.
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  He had his hands in everything.
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  So, tying this together a little bit here when I was in, um, Pau,
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  uh, we were working with a, the doctor that would eventually lead
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  us to, uh, Osama Bin Laden and who's
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  still in prison in Pakistan,
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  who's still in prison.
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  Yes, very good point.
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  So, uh, John Brennan, who was like the National Security Deputy National Security
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  Advisor during, uh, Obama's timeframe.
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  Obama was very, very involved in what we were doing.
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  Uh, during that timeframe.
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  Uh, they had.
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  Meetings probably I, maybe even every day.
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  He was very involved.
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  Uh, it reminded me of the time when I was in Iraq in the early days where,
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  where Bush and Condoleezza Rice were e every day, you know, pretty much
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  talking to, uh, ambassador Bremmer.
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  So they were very, very involved.
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  And then when we, you know, went in and, uh, my old team, red Squadron
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  went in and got Osama Bin Laden things just went off the cliff.
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  I mean, we got like pulled out of there, we got shoved into, uh, different places.
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  Uh, had to shut down that base.
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  Uh, it was, it was crazy.
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  All the stuff that was going on during that timeframe.
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  Uh, and then we had that, that crazy crash of seal Team six, uh,
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  gold Squadron and Afghanistan.
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  Everybody's still suspect about what happened.
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  There was at some kind of payback, you know, I don't know.
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  It's cra crazy time.
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  So, uh, Brennan had been involved in all this stuff.
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  Uh, so what are your, what are you guys thoughts?
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  Yeah, go ahead, John.
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  Man.
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  Where do we even begin?
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  Um, you know what, let me begin by laying a little bit of, um, of background.
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  So, I first met John Brennan in January of 1990.
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  He was a GS 15, nobody.
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  He was the deputy group chief in the office of near Eastern
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  and South Asian analysis.
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  He was the deputy chief of the Arab Israeli Analysis Group.
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  Big deal.
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  He worked for a woman named Martha Kessler.
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  Martha was, was absolutely brilliant.
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  She was arguably the country's leading thinker on Syria, and she wrote a book
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  that was so highly regarded that it was.
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  It was mandatory reading for all of us as we entered the office.
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  You know, when you were first assigned in that office, it was called Syria,
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  fragile Mosaic of Power by Martha Kassler.
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  Martha didn't like John.
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  He had been imposed on her as her deputy.
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  And one day she, he went to her and he said, I've been
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  in this job for a long time.
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  I think I'm ready for promotion to the senior intelligence
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  service, and I want your blessing.
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  And she said, not only will you never be promoted into the senior
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  intelligence service, I don't even want you working for me anymore.
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  You're fired.
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  At the CIA as you well know, you can't really fire, fire someone.
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  When you fire someone you give them six weeks to walk the halls
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  and find a an onward assignment.
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  And if they can't find an onward assignment after six weeks, then.
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  They, their badge is taken and they're escorted out, and that's the end of it.
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  The normal job turnover is in the summer, right?
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  That's when everybody's moving from one job to the other.
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  This was Christmas, 1996 and, um, there were no jobs.
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  So he's walking the halls.
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  He finally finds a job in the PDB staff, the president's daily brief, giving a
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  briefing to the lowest ranking person entitled to receive one or 94, 96, 94.
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  I can't remember anymore that person happened to be the director of
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  Intelligence programs at the NSC.
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  His name was George Tenet.
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  And so they immediately hit it off.
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  'cause they're both, alpha dogs, ugly pockmarked faces.
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  Chopping on cigars, cheating on their wives.
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  They immediately hit it off.
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  And George had just had a heart attack.
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  He was barely into his forties, and so he wasn't supposed to smoke.
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  So after Brennan would brief him, they would walk to this little kiosk that used
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  to stand on the corner of 17 Pennsylvania Avenue, 17th Street in Pennsylvania Avenue
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  Northwest across from the White House.
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  And they'd buy a cigar and they'd stand there and smoke cigars.
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  Well, George becomes the deputy director of the CIA, and he brings
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  John with him and makes him deputy director of the Office of Near
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  Eastern and South Asian analysis.
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  Now he's Martha Kessler's boss, and he calls her in on his first
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  day and he says, now you are fired.
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  And so she elected to retire.
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  He was only in that job briefly because there was a, a realignment
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  and he ended up being named station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
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  Now, this is a guy who had, who had already done 20 or
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  22 years solely in analysis.
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  He had never ever served overseas in an operational position.
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  He had never recruited a spy to steal a secret.
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  He had never met with a recruited asset, never.
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  But he's the station chief in Riyadh, where we know he oversaw the issuance of
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  visas that should never have been issued.
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  He went back to the CIA after and, you know, that's, that's
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  normally a two year tour with the option to extend for a third.
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  Well, he extended for a fourth and he extended for a fifth and then went
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  back to headquarters as the deputy executive director of the CIA, the
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  fourth ranking officer in the CIA.
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  Now he's everybody's boss and, um, he very much wanted to become.
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  The Deputy Director for operations, Jim ptt was the deputy director for operations
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  at the time, and they hated each other.
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  And PTT had more wasta than Brennan did.
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  And so Brennan went to what was briefly called the TT IC, the transnational
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  terrorist Information Center.
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  Yeah.
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  He, he wanted so badly to run his own agency, any agency of any size, because
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  what he really wanted, and he wasn't ashamed to say it out loud, he really
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  wanted to be Secretary of Defense.
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  And so he took this position at the TT IC, later it changed its name to
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  the national Counter-Terrorism Center.
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  And then, um, and then he decided to retire.
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  In 2007, there was a huge wave of retirements from the Senior
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  Intelligence Service because nine 11 was six years behind us.
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  People are starting to wind their careers down.
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  It is time to go.
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  You figure there were a hundred, 150 Iers that retired.
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  Half of them went to the John McCain campaign, and half of them went
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  to the Hillary Clinton campaign.
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  And John Brennan was the only one that went to the Barack Obama campaign.
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  Obama.
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  Wow.
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  And then lo and behold, Obama wins the nomination.
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  So Brennan was the guy, you might recall that as soon as Obama won in 2009,
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  he named Brennan as the CIA director.
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  Yeah.
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  And the liberals went crazy.
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  How people have forgotten.
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  John Brennan was one of the, the fathers, one of the creators of the
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  torture program, which is why he was denied that job as CI director from
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  2009 to 2000, 13 January of 2013.
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  It's a mystery to me how people don't remember that.
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  But Progressive stood up and said, absolutely not.
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  And so he pulled him back, made him Deputy National Security Advisor
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  for counterterrorism by 20, by the 2012 election, everybody had
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  forgotten what a bad guy he was.
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  And so when Obama nominated him for CI Director, nobody said a word.
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  And then the rest is history.
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  Wow.
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  Appreciate.
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  So the, uh, Abu Grub was where they had the, uh, the waterboarding?
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  I'm assuming
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  Oh, no, no.
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  Well, well before Abu Grape, three years
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  Oh really?
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  The agency was water boarding people at the six, uh, secret sites.
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  Yes.
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  I, I've heard that that was spread around
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  the
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  world.
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  Some of 'em were still, have been, were active quite some time, but oh, yeah.
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  That's interesting.
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  Uh, I, when I was in the military, I, I went through, uh, escape evasion
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  training and, uh, I got waterboarded.
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  It's not fun.
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  And, uh, it's, it's pretty, pretty horrific.
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  Uh, and I was doing pretty good at it.
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  They couldn't make me talk.
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  And there's, they told me you better start screaming or we're gonna make it really
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  bad for you because, and I, I figured they probably could because you know, the,
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  the angle, it's not gonna get into you.
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  And I was used to, breathing, leaky water you know, uh, regulators and so forth.
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  So, uh, but yeah, that would be, I watched other people get on that and it was
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  horrific to watch, what happened to them.
• 21:24
  And that was controlled.
• 21:25
  We were, had a controlled environment.
• 21:27
  I'm sure the guys were being tortured.
• 21:29
  Not so much.
• 21:30
  Wow.
• 21:30
  Yeah.
• 21:31
  We waterboarded each other in training and it was miserable.
• 21:34
  Yeah.
• 21:34
  Yeah.
• 21:35
  Awful.
• 21:36
  Not, not, yeah.
• 21:37
  Not not something that we should be doing.
• 21:39
  Yeah.
• 21:39
  So I'm glad, uh, you pushed against that, so Yeah.
• 21:42
  Thank you.
• 21:42
  You have, you got the experience and you're like, yeah, this is,
• 21:45
  this is BS that we're doing this.
• 21:46
  Yeah.
• 21:46
  This is, yeah.
• 21:47
  Good.
• 21:47
  This is not, this is not legal.
• 21:49
  It was the first thing in my mind, this is not legal.
• 21:51
  And, and we did things, I don't wanna get too far afield, but we
• 21:54
  did things that, in my view were way worse than water boarding.
• 21:58
  You know, not just things like steep sleep deprivation and cold cell.
• 22:03
  I mean, we killed people with those techniques, but there were things
• 22:06
  that were never approved by the Justice Department that we did with
• 22:11
  the idea being who's gonna tell?
• 22:14
  Wow.
• 22:15
  Yeah.
• 22:16
  The thing was so highly compartmentalized, they didn't think anybody would ever talk.
• 22:21
  Yeah.
• 22:22
  So back to, uh, John Brennan and.
• 22:25
  Obama, uh, I just pulled up this one little article where it talks
• 22:29
  about Obama being there in 81.
• 22:32
  He didn't mention it anywhere else, and then he was like a press conference.
• 22:35
  He just said it, and then they started doing investigative work on that.
• 22:38
  So that's, that's interesting that he spent some time there.
• 22:42
  And then he was involved in, uh, you know, finding Osama midline.
• 22:47
  I think we knew he was there for a while.
• 22:50
  Right.
• 22:51
  And, uh, they decided, okay let's cut him.
• 22:54
  And, uh, so I, I don't know.
• 22:56
  What are you guys' thoughts?
• 22:59
  Yeah, go ahead, John.
• 23:00
  I, I think that's right.
• 23:02
  I think that's right.
• 23:03
  Or at least we had strong suspicions.
• 23:05
  But you know what, then I'm, I'm gonna get a little bit off topic here.
• 23:08
  You raised the, uh, the issue of the doctor the doctor that
• 23:11
  helped us locate a summit.
• 23:13
  Oh yeah,
• 23:15
  a
• 23:15
  few.
• 23:15
  When I was on the seven Foreign Relations Committee staff in 2009.
• 23:19
  I did a lot of travel in that job and, uh, John Kerry, I, I was working
• 23:24
  for John Kerry at the time, he was the chairman of the committee.
• 23:27
  John Kerry asked me what I wanted to do in terms of, um, investigations, and
• 23:32
  I said, listen, I, I, everybody knew that the only thing John Kerry wanted
• 23:38
  in life was to be Secretary of State.
• 23:41
  So I said, listen, I think we, I think we've got a real
• 23:44
  hook for something great here.
• 23:45
  I told him about the doctor.
• 23:46
  I said, this guy is a hero.
• 23:48
  Yeah,
• 23:48
  he's a hero.
• 23:49
  He handed us Osama Bin Laden and the Pakistanis have him locked
• 23:55
  up on a treason charge, no less.
• 23:57
  He's gonna die in some dank Pakistani dungeon.
• 24:01
  Yeah.
• 24:02
  I said, let's go to Islamabad and let's bring him back with us.
• 24:07
  I said, you'll be a national hero.
• 24:09
  He says, write me up a memo.
• 24:12
  So I read him the memo.
• 24:13
  This is who the guy is, this is what he did, this is what we should do.
• 24:17
  There's no downside to this.
• 24:19
  The Pakistanis would be happy to just be rid of him.
• 24:22
  He's an American hero.
• 24:23
  Bring him back here and, you know, you can get the Presidential
• 24:26
  Medal of Freedom or whatever.
• 24:28
  And then Kerry comes back 'cause he obviously he had called the
• 24:32
  White House, including Brennan.
• 24:36
  Well, it's so controversial.
• 24:40
  I don't know.
• 24:41
  We don't wanna make the Pakistanis angry.
• 24:43
  And what if we show up and, and they say, no, we can't do it.
• 24:48
  And I was like, are you serious?
• 24:50
  And so we never went to Pakistan at all.
• 24:55
  I did a different investigation.
• 24:57
  I took different trips, but he just didn't wanna do the right thing at
• 25:01
  all because John Brennan told him no.
• 25:05
  Yeah.
• 25:06
  And I, I'll weigh in a little bit on that.
• 25:08
  Uh, I work with the doc.
• 25:09
  He's a really, really good man.
• 25:11
  Uh, and, uh, and we told him once, once he, once we do this, you need to leave.
• 25:18
  And he's, he's like, no, I'm gonna be a hero.
• 25:21
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:21
  In my country.
• 25:21
  And, uh, that didn't work out so good for him.
• 25:24
  Uh, like you're talking about, I now I remember president, I believe President
• 25:28
  Trump in his, in his first time in office.
• 25:30
  Uh, he was, he was basically threatening the Pakistanis, uh, saying he was gonna
• 25:34
  cut off aid unless they released him.
• 25:36
  I don't know, I might be a little off on that, but they
• 25:39
  just went to China and got aid.
• 25:41
  It's like, yeah, we'll just go somewhere else and get it.
• 25:43
  Uh, and it didn't work out.
• 25:45
  So, uh, it's, and Trump was sure that it would happen.
• 25:47
  And of course, as John, you and I know the packs, they're, you
• 25:52
  can't guess what they're gonna do.
• 25:53
  So they're very unpredictable,
• 25:54
  right?
• 25:54
  Yeah.
• 25:56
  Let me, let me mention, uh, the TTIC, which, which John was, was talking
• 26:00
  about in regards to kind of the power consortium that, that John Brennan
• 26:05
  was able to create for himself.
• 26:07
  Now this is after nine 11.
• 26:09
  The, the bush, the executive order that the TTIC was, was created, but page one 12
• 26:15
  in high stakes treason goes into, and this is a direct quote from John Brennan, uh,
• 26:19
  gives, gives uh, uh, viewers an, an, uh, an understanding of the, and I mentioned
• 26:24
  in the book, uh, CT Intel monopoly.
• 26:28
  That means a counter-terrorism intelligence monopoly is what John
• 26:32
  Brennan was able to create for himself from the TTIC, which John had mentioned,
• 26:36
  became known as the, uh, the NCTC national Counter-Terrorism Center.
• 26:41
  But at the TTIC Brennan has stated as saying this, the
• 26:45
  idea that behind the TTIC.
• 26:47
  I'm reading a quote was that we needed to have some place in the
• 26:51
  government where all counter-terrorism information would reside.
• 26:56
  The good news and the bad news is that the TTIC had more access to more information
• 27:03
  than anywhere in the government.
• 27:06
  And that was what John Brennan had at his fingertips.
• 27:09
  And that is exactly how we allege he was able to commit these crimes.
• 27:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:14
  And this is why we use the word treason, because he enriched himself
• 27:18
  in retaining stock ownership illegally under the Obama administration, uh,
• 27:23
  of this company called the Analysis Corporation, which changed its names.
• 27:26
  And then we got sold to a UK financial investment firm based in Hong Kong
• 27:31
  uh, Dom domicile on Hong Kong CCP.
• 27:33
  And of course he allowed these, these, these terror attacks.
• 27:36
  To, to transpire.
• 27:37
  Now my question might be for for John is what thoughts went through
• 27:43
  your mind, John, when you came across the information in the book?
• 27:47
  And since you and I have spoken last, not sure if you've had a, a chance to
• 27:50
  go through it a little bit more or not.
• 27:51
  Yes.
• 27:52
  But understanding the contents laid out in regards to the Boston Marathon bombing,
• 27:58
  the, um, uh, the Abdulah Matala, uh, Matala bombing attempt on that flight,
• 28:03
  leaving Amsterdam for Detroit 2009.
• 28:06
  Uh, and of course, that
• 28:07
  attack on this is exactly what the power of your book is.
• 28:13
  I, I've known John Brennan for 35 years.
• 28:18
  I thought I knew that he was a bad guy.
• 28:21
  I had no idea the depth of his depravity, the lengths that he
• 28:29
  would go to, to enrich himself.
• 28:33
  The people whose lives he would ruin in order to keep
• 28:37
  himself at the top of the heap.
• 28:39
  Until I read that book,
• 28:41
  I
• 28:41
  agree.
• 28:42
  Until I read that book.
• 28:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:43
  Listen, there are a lot of bad guys in government.
• 28:45
  We've all encountered them.
• 28:47
  This is somebody whose dirty deeds are of epic proportions, and I can't help but
• 28:57
  to think that there are so many crimes documented in the book that there's
• 29:05
  gotta be something in there for which the statute of limitations hasn't expired.
• 29:10
  Absolutely.
• 29:11
  Or, and you and I have talked about this, Ian.
• 29:13
  Yeah.
• 29:14
  Or Brennan's ongoing work to keep his crimes a secret could
• 29:23
  constitute an ongoing conspiracy.
• 29:27
  Yes.
• 29:27
  Which means that the statute of limitations would reset itself every day.
• 29:33
  Yeah.
• 29:34
  What do you say
• 29:34
  about that?
• 29:35
  I'm not a, I'm not a constitutional scholar, but
• 29:37
  this is worth seeking one out.
• 29:40
  And like you pointed out, Ian and John, like you described, you know,
• 29:43
  in the early, like in the mid nineties or so, there was nothing going on
• 29:48
  and, uh, you know, pretty much they created something and, uh, then we're
• 29:53
  all involved in this and there's lots of money that's involved in this.
• 29:56
  And, uh, you know, you really outlined a lot of this exceptionally well.
• 30:00
  So I, I looked up the, uh, the two minute promise.
• 30:04
  Uh, during two, during, uh, president Trump's 2016 campaign, Trump stated
• 30:09
  he would get Pakistan to release Dr. Darti within two minutes of
• 30:12
  taking office arguing that the US gives Pakistan substantial aid.
• 30:18
  Unfortunately, the historical aspect of that is that he is still in prison.
• 30:23
  Very tragic and very, you know, the guy, the guy's a hero here in America.
• 30:27
  He should be walking, he should getting that $50 million, uh, you know, money.
• 30:31
  I don't know.
• 30:32
  Maybe they decided to keep it.
• 30:33
  They let him have him so they could keep the money.
• 30:35
  That's crazy.
• 30:37
  Yeah.
• 30:37
  There's a, there's a, and not to, not to forget if folks heard the first
• 30:43
  interview that, uh, that, that Michael and I had and Edward Snowden here, uh,
• 30:48
  and the whistle blowing he did on the NSA is critical and understanding, and
• 30:51
  then I know Fox News right now has, I'm not sure who produced that, but it's,
• 30:55
  is he a patriot or is he a trader?
• 30:57
  As far as I'm concerned, Edward Snowden would be a patriot.
• 30:59
  This is my personal gut feeling based upon what we know through
• 31:02
  x key score and what was revealed through that in that Anders brave.
• 31:07
  Go Googling.
• 31:08
  This is public search, Googling how to prepare bombs, create
• 31:12
  bombs, ingredients for bombs.
• 31:14
  Uh, this was all public knowledge that John Brennan would've had, and
• 31:17
  as we allege he hid in code work compartments using his unwitting
• 31:20
  analyst, uh, Michael Jones.
• 31:22
  Now, since, also since the last time we've spoken Michael, I've introduced
• 31:26
  my intelligence source, uh, because yes, I've author the material.
• 31:29
  Yes, I've added to it, but this all came to me on a binder and forgive my lighting.
• 31:34
  Folks, I, I can see it's pretty dark there.
• 31:35
  I I don't have the best lighting.
• 31:37
  Uh, I've got a bum ankle at the moment, so just, uh, bear with me on that.
• 31:40
  But, uh, uh, I was given a binder at that 2024 cpac.
• 31:43
  Uh, that's where that, that was the, uh, that was the incubator that
• 31:47
  created this book, high Stakes Treason.
• 31:49
  And, and, and that came from Intel source that came from an American hero, such
• 31:53
  as the man that is joining us today.
• 31:55
  Both of you, of course, thank you for your service, uh, both of you.
• 31:58
  But, uh, but the one con concerning, uh, high stakes
• 32:01
  treason would be Mr. John Donovan.
• 32:03
  And, uh, and I and Michael, since you and I spoke last, uh, I, uh, got Donovan on
• 32:08
  the phone, uh, with, uh, with karaoke.
• 32:10
  So they have now connected.
• 32:11
  Yes.
• 32:11
  Because in the shadows, if you will, in the background, it was Mr.
• 32:15
  Donovan, uh, being tipped off to the malfeasance of John Brennan back in,
• 32:18
  uh, uh, 2011 when he was working with the private contractors, high valence.
• 32:23
  And, and, and he got fired.
• 32:25
  He got fired.
• 32:26
  Uh, he got fired by S Surveillance because he tipped off the FBI, his former employer
• 32:30
  who'd spent over a decade with, in, in the Washington DC field office, uh, s
• 32:33
  surveillance, uh, fired him for tipping off, uh, the FBI, which did nothing of
• 32:37
  course, on this, on this, uh, on this criminality of, of Brendan Beck in 2011.
• 32:42
  So, um, so, so there's that connection that's been made and it's critical for
• 32:45
  you to understand that Michael as well.
• 32:47
  But if we fast forward a little bit, I wanna get into this a little bit.
• 32:50
  If we fast forward Patrick Byrne, if anyone's been following Patrick Byrne.
• 32:53
  Um, Lana Kova is somebody that I've tried to reach out to because she's
• 32:57
  tweeting about John Brennan daily.
• 32:59
  Yes.
• 32:59
  Now, uh, she was smeared, uh, out of Cambridge with Steve Stephen
• 33:03
  Halper, uh, John uh, uh, and another guy named Sir Richard Dearl.
• 33:07
  That was the Russian collusion, uh, with, with general Michael Flynn.
• 33:11
  Svetlana and Flynn supposedly had unnecessary relations.
• 33:16
  Inappropriate relations.
• 33:17
  Uh, that was 'cause Flynn Flynn was caught in that because he was
• 33:20
  communicating with Moscow at the time.
• 33:21
  That all comes back to what's called Hamilton 68 Dashboard, which is
• 33:24
  new since the last time you and I spoke, uh, Michael Hamilton's 68
• 33:28
  dashboard was was, was a tech uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, facade created for, uh,
• 33:35
  to create Russian bots on Twitter.
• 33:37
  And that was supposedly, uh, what was pumping up, uh, Trump and helped
• 33:41
  steal the election for Trump in 2016.
• 33:44
  This is what John Brennan was driving home, uh, with the steel dossier.
• 33:49
  Okay?
• 33:50
  Yes.
• 33:50
  Um, and, um, in that set of precedence, and, and as the two of you know, I
• 33:54
  spent a week and a half in DC back in October, passing out a hundred copies
• 33:58
  of this book to, uh, various offices of both the, uh, the house and the Senate.
• 34:01
  Uh, I had a few different meetings and and, and if anybody's seen that
• 34:05
  viral clip with Nancy Pelosi, where she's scolding, she told us this
• 34:08
  Lindell TV reporter to shut up.
• 34:10
  Uh, that was literally, that was like 10 minutes after I walked
• 34:13
  past her in the hall out of Harriet Hagman's office with John Donovan.
• 34:16
  And I, and I handed her, I handed her office a copy.
• 34:18
  I'd given her office, her office, a copy.
• 34:20
  I didn't hand it to Nancy, but I gave her a copy of this book.
• 34:23
  So we have this John Brennan narrative that I think is also
• 34:26
  critical to understand why would he, what would give him motive?
• 34:29
  And this is what I've told the staffers of the Congress.
• 34:31
  What would give him motive to drive that steel dossier?
• 34:34
  The contents in high stakes treason, the fact that he's committed
• 34:37
  very serious financial crimes.
• 34:38
  He's committed very serious alleged, uh, treasonous crimes on the American people.
• 34:42
  The contents in high stakes treason is why he would've orchestrated and spearheaded
• 34:48
  the the Russian collusion efforts to keep, uh, to try, to try to smear.
• 34:52
  Donald Trump.
• 34:53
  Uh, and of course what we know, and I'll tie this in real quickly and
• 34:55
  give give you guys a chance to talk, tie this real quickly because in 2020
• 35:00
  that election we know was stolen, flat out, that's, uh, it was stolen.
• 35:04
  John Brennan is something I've told Michael.
• 35:05
  It's something I've told John, uh, recently.
• 35:07
  And I dunno if you've looked at it at all, more John, but, uh, but John Brandon
• 35:12
  created a data center in Belgrade, Serbia with Huawei, the Chinese software company.
• 35:18
  Uh, and that data center was used to manipulate Dominion servers.
• 35:23
  To rig and adjust the results of that 2020 election.
• 35:27
  Now, why is it important that Maduro, uh, was ca was arrested and captured
• 35:31
  now in US custody because that is how he retained power was through the invention
• 35:37
  of Smart Mad, which he re, which he created out from us, Hugo Chavez.
• 35:41
  This Smart Madock was a Venezuelan voter fraud voting system to, to, to
• 35:45
  basically implement and place a communist, uh, leader, uh, in, into office.
• 35:49
  This is how Maduro was captured.
• 35:51
  This is unfortunately why Tina Putters Peters is locked up in, in Colorado.
• 35:55
  And that is, in my view, it's not oil.
• 35:57
  Yeah.
• 35:57
  It's part of it.
• 35:58
  Uh, the drug trading trend deal Arawa.
• 36:00
  Sure.
• 36:01
  Those are all part of it that the main critical point in capturing Maduro was
• 36:05
  was to get at hopefully what seems to be a oncoming testimony in regards to
• 36:09
  the Dominion, dominion fraud or fraud.
• 36:11
  And so John Brennan, as we listen to this and he's now 70, John Brennan is critical.
• 36:17
  He's a critical piece to this, uh, to this voter fraud.
• 36:19
  And this is the other side to the coin outside of the book.
• 36:23
  But if we go back again, what would give him incentive?
• 36:26
  And from my argument, non-legal, uh, uh, opinion, what would give him
• 36:30
  incentive, uh, to drive that steel dossier, uh, and at fabrication?
• 36:34
  Well, because he's got, he's got a demons in his closet and,
• 36:38
  uh, and they're very serious.
• 36:41
  Yeah.
• 36:41
  You know, and so a, a lot of other points, uh, in your book one of 'em
• 36:44
  that really stood out to me was, like you just said earlier Brennan had
• 36:49
  control over everything in intelligence, and he kept that, uh, from the FBI
• 36:56
  and they could have stopped nine 11.
• 36:58
  And I was like, what?
• 37:00
  I was like, wow.
• 37:01
  Uh, and, and probably for profit, probably for, you know, not
• 37:06
  just for himself, but of course.
• 37:07
  But, uh, for the, uh, military industrial complex, who knows?
• 37:10
  Maybe that's who was controlling him and putting him in these
• 37:14
  positions along with Obama.
• 37:16
  Yeah.
• 37:16
  And on that note there Michael, which is very interesting, and John's already
• 37:19
  mentioned, the George tenant aspect.
• 37:21
  And of course, both of you have worked in the ccia.
• 37:23
  You would know, uh, the Mackinac inside the ccia a far better than I would.
• 37:27
  But one of the things that came to my attention was a testimonial
• 37:30
  back in 2004, and I think it was Cynthia McKinney, a guy named Michael
• 37:33
  Springman, who was a state department worker that was working in Jetta.
• 37:37
  He stated, this is two decades ago, he was stating he returned to the US and
• 37:41
  he says, wait a second, I get to Jetta.
• 37:42
  And 80 or 90% of the people are on CIA, uh, you know, there's only three
• 37:47
  state Department at this embassy, only State Department people.
• 37:50
  What he later says in that testimonial, and Mike Ben has reported on this,
• 37:54
  is that under the John Brennan jurisdiction, 1515 of the 19 9 11
• 38:01
  Hijacker Visas came out of that John Brennan jurisdiction in Saudi Arabia.
• 38:06
  15. Exactly.
• 38:07
  Wow.
• 38:08
  Wow.
• 38:09
  Unbelievable.
• 38:09
  Yeah.
• 38:10
  So this, this, then.
• 38:12
  This, then again and remember that key phrase for viewers is
• 38:15
  counter-terrorism, Intel monopoly.
• 38:18
  That is the allegation that John Brennan created for himself to hide
• 38:23
  this critical information in what were called code or compartments.
• 38:26
  So the question then becomes is what did George Tenet know, as you alluded to
• 38:30
  Mike, uh, Michael, uh, what did George Tenet know prior to the nine 11 tax?
• 38:35
  What we know is that information was sequestered, vital information was
• 38:38
  sequestered just as in that Boston Marathon bombing, uh, regarding the Sarnia
• 38:42
  brothers and where they were and where thereabouts were, uh, vital information
• 38:45
  was, was hidden from, uh, critical intelligence people, honest intelligence
• 38:50
  people, patriotic intelligence people, uh, that could have very well
• 38:52
  prevented prevented those attacks.
• 38:54
  So, although we, uh, we analyzed a three of, three of those three attacks, two
• 38:58
  domestically, one on the NATO ally.
• 39:00
  My next move is to get in a little bit more to to, as you talked about.
• 39:05
  Is is, uh, is nine 11.
• 39:07
  Um, but, uh, anyway, so that's, that's kind of the current
• 39:11
  thought, thoughts I have,
• 39:16
  John.
• 39:17
  Yeah.
• 39:18
  I, and, and we've we've lost you in the darkness.
• 39:23
  I, I apologize
• 39:25
  As we're talking, I'm re-scanning a copy of the book and there's
• 39:29
  just so much it, you know what let's talk about it this way too.
• 39:37
  Let's say you are a member of the political left.
• 39:41
  Okay?
• 39:42
  Yeah.
• 39:43
  I don't, I'm not talking about a DNC Democrat, an M-S-N-B-C Democrat,
• 39:47
  I'm talking about somebody who's truly from the political left.
• 39:50
  Somebody from the political left should be as outraged as we are,
• 39:56
  that any absolutely any of this has taken place in the first place.
• 40:02
  Right.
• 40:02
  That's right.
• 40:03
  Yeah, that's absolutely right.
• 40:03
  Look, in my view, and this is why, this is why I mentioned very, uh, earlier Zig Bki.
• 40:07
  Yeah.
• 40:08
  Pardon me.
• 40:09
  Zig Brezinski.
• 40:10
  Uh, this is a, wait, he is he secretary of, uh, state.
• 40:12
  Was, is that right?
• 40:13
  Under, under,
• 40:13
  no, he was a national security advisor under Jimmy Carter.
• 40:15
  Right?
• 40:15
  Yeah.
• 40:16
  National Security Advisor under Carter.
• 40:17
  You know, this is, this is an apparatus as, as we, as we, as we, as we kind
• 40:21
  of analyze, right, the movement of where the country has gone, the last.
• 40:25
  Let's just say after World War ii, because that was a very critical juncture
• 40:28
  on the, on the global landscape of how, uh, just how the world operates.
• 40:33
  If, if, if we're looking at that broader spectrum, we're looking at the Red
• 40:37
  Wave McCarthyism, and, and we know that communism has lurked in the background.
• 40:42
  Oh, we're seeing it, we're seeing it in our face now.
• 40:44
  It's being, we're being slapped around with it now with Mond, right?
• 40:46
  This guy getting, uh, the, the knife being pulled on an NYPD officer, NYPD, he
• 40:51
  NY officer pulls the trigger on the gun.
• 40:53
  And Mond's calling for no charges.
• 40:55
  I mean, are you kidding me?
• 40:56
  And you've got in Minneapolis, this, these ridiculous people, uh, that are saying,
• 41:00
  no, we don't want you, we want ice out.
• 41:02
  Wait a second.
• 41:03
  Ice is there to, uh, attack criminals that came in under, you know, these open
• 41:07
  border policies that invaded our country.
• 41:10
  Um, yet, you know, the, the very, uh, uh, liberal leaning.
• 41:13
  Uh, uh, people in Minneapolis are, are, are calling it an ice invasion
• 41:16
  and the, you know, Nazis and whatnot.
• 41:18
  I mean, this is, this is all, these are all socialist tactics, communist
• 41:23
  ISTs that we are now even in Seattle.
• 41:25
  Seattle's got a mayor that's an open socialist, uh, that are, that are, again,
• 41:28
  I'll use this phrase, slapping us now in the face so they have lurked in the
• 41:32
  background being the communist movement.
• 41:35
  Again, remember John Brennan voting for the communist candidate for
• 41:38
  mayor or president, 1976 Gus Hall.
• 41:41
  Um, in my view.
• 41:43
  John Brennan, I've never met him.
• 41:44
  And I've, and I've asked him to comment on the book.
• 41:46
  He hasn't commented on the book.
• 41:47
  I've tagged him on a number of posts on Twitter.
• 41:48
  He hasn't, hasn't commented.
• 41:49
  The Daily Mail tried to reach out to him, and, uh, he didn't respond.
• 41:52
  And that's actually why the Daily Mail told me they couldn't release the article.
• 41:56
  Um, the reporter spent three days working on it.
• 41:59
  But, but my my, my guess guys, my guess is that, uh, the deep state,
• 42:04
  as we as we work as Americans, as patriots, as Constitutional Republicans,
• 42:09
  uh, whether we're Democrats or not, we're all constitutional republic.
• 42:11
  We live in a constitutional republic.
• 42:12
  That's what I mean by that.
• 42:14
  Uh, we all look, we all, we all uh, strive, I think anyway, uh, at least
• 42:20
  the three of us do in chipping away and understanding at what that deep state is.
• 42:23
  And that is why I mentioned Lord Mansen.
• 42:25
  Because there's a lot of ties here to, to the uk, uh, US and UK intelligence, share,
• 42:31
  share, uh, share, share a lot of ties.
• 42:33
  And this is why I also mentioned, uh, uh, uh, Steven Halpert, who was
• 42:36
  a CIA asset, uh, that worked, uh, with Cambridge University and, and
• 42:40
  their surveillance programs, uh, that created that steel dossier.
• 42:43
  Let's not forget the steel dossier.
• 42:44
  Uh, uh, Christopher Steele, who's a former, uh, former and, uh, uh,
• 42:48
  u uh, UK intelligence asset, right?
• 42:51
  So we're, you know, we're, we're trying to keep a president out of
• 42:53
  office based off of a foreign, uh, intelligence uh, uh, report or dossier.
• 42:59
  So as we chip away to understand what that, uh, what that, what that deep
• 43:03
  state is, I believe that this John, Brendan person was used as, uh, and
• 43:08
  I'll phrase it as a penetration agent, uh, a con, you know, he was a communist
• 43:13
  sympathizer and I think he was probably used to lay down certain structure in the
• 43:18
  intelligence community that would benefit.
• 43:20
  That, uh, that outside, uh, deep state, uh, organization.
• 43:25
  Just my thought there.
• 43:26
  That's just my thought.
• 43:27
  But again, looking through the contents of high stakes, treason, looking through
• 43:32
  that, it gives a, gives the reader a full understanding of how this mind
• 43:39
  worked how this mind worked to build this intelligence monopoly to hide the
• 43:46
  information from the American people, from critical intelligence, uh, operatives
• 43:51
  within our own uh, uh, uh, agencies.
• 43:54
  And allow basically what looks like the deep state to get away
• 43:57
  with, um, their objectives.
• 43:59
  And I'll identify two of them, uh, that people should be
• 44:02
  considering, uh, that are watching.
• 44:04
  This one of course, are our First Amendment rights.
• 44:09
  Those different freedoms are always under attack.
• 44:11
  But if we look at the history of Ong and what happened in China, we look at Stalin.
• 44:15
  If we're looking at Hitler, we're looking at these different socialist
• 44:18
  sympathizers that rose to power over, over the past century.
• 44:22
  Uh, what were, what was the common thread and historics right back, uh,
• 44:26
  to, uh, and I don't know the history of Zig burzynski enough, but it
• 44:30
  certainly goes back to the philoso political philosophies of Barack Obama.
• 44:33
  Um, this goes right back to, you've got to disarm, you've got to disarm
• 44:38
  the people, in order to objectively gain complete and total control, uh,
• 44:43
  you've gotta disarm that those people.
• 44:44
  And that's exactly what happened, uh, un uh, in China over the, over the
• 44:47
  decades of ma uh, uh, Mount Dunks.
• 44:49
  Uh, uh, rule is, I think he's, uh, is some of the statistic statistics I've
• 44:54
  seen is that he, uh, he slaughtered 60 million Chinese over his efforts to
• 44:59
  confiscate private ownership of guns.
• 45:01
  Uh, you know, it's not that I'm uh, suggesting any type of violence.
• 45:03
  Nobody wants violence.
• 45:04
  Uh, and that's not something I want as well.
• 45:07
  But, uh, an objective here under the Obama administration, using a man like
• 45:12
  a John Brennan, a communist sympathizer, would be efforts to chip away at those
• 45:16
  second amendment's rights in my view.
• 45:22
  Now, as far as like the, uh, the communist aspect of it, you mentioned
• 45:25
  Memani and of course Brennan there's in the Epstein files, there's, uh,
• 45:32
  they just came out where Memani mom is with, uh, and with him as a baby
• 45:37
  is with, uh, Clinton and, uh, Epstein.
• 45:40
  And some people are saying that, uh, Epstein is memani.
• 45:44
  Father.
• 45:45
  And, uh, so how did Ani who came from nowhere, no background, get all
• 45:51
  the way to the mayor of, you know, one of the most prestigious and up
• 45:56
  upstanding cities in America, New York?
• 45:59
  No he didn't, he didn't have no background.
• 46:01
  Yeah.
• 46:01
  He had, he was a, uh, he was a city councilman and, um, and a member
• 46:07
  of the New York State legislature.
• 46:10
  So he did have a little bit of background.
• 46:12
  Oh yeah.
• 46:13
  Okay.
• 46:13
  Yeah.
• 46:15
  But what, what else is interesting here, and I'll just, I'll just kind of throw
• 46:18
  this out for you guys, to, to react and, and in a way you might possibly have.
• 46:22
  And, and, and Michael, I have seen those photos.
• 46:25
  I haven't confirmed them, uh, that, that, uh, that Mond's mother,
• 46:29
  and let's not forget that Mond, I believe he's born in Ken, uh, Uganda.
• 46:33
  Yeah.
• 46:34
  Um, that she was hobnobbing.
• 46:36
  I think there's one right there, Mira.
• 46:38
  Um, I don't know.
• 46:39
  I haven't confirmed that there those are accurate or not with Epstein.
• 46:42
  Uh, and that he would've been introduced, uh, Mond would've
• 46:45
  been introduced to, uh, to Epstein and or if Epstein was the father.
• 46:49
  Uh, I, I haven't confirmed any of those, but I have seen, uh, I have seen photos
• 46:53
  that show that Mond's wife or mother allegedly was with, was with Epstein.
• 46:57
  But something interesting is this, as we look at dominoes that may, may
• 47:00
  fall, uh, and John, I know some of the people that you're, you're, you're
• 47:03
  talking to, uh, right now as we look at dominoes, that, that, that fall is
• 47:08
  what caught my interest in my interest.
• 47:10
  And, and Chris Pieto, if either of you're familiar with him, is a former
• 47:13
  guest on my podcast, and he was directly involved in that Benghazi
• 47:16
  massacre where Stevens, uh, was killed.
• 47:19
  You know, this is, this is under Hillary Clinton's uh, uh, uh, uh,
• 47:22
  time uh, as, uh, I think it was the Secretary of State, right?
• 47:26
  If I've got that right.
• 47:27
  Yeah.
• 47:27
  It was interesting how this gentleman, and I don't know the name right now, but
• 47:30
  this gentleman, so just a few days ago.
• 47:33
  And again, we're looking at dominoes falling and how things
• 47:34
  might happen on a global stage.
• 47:36
  Um, a few days ago the Clintons, uh, agreed, right?
• 47:41
  They agreed to be to to be in that de deposition, uh,
• 47:45
  with, uh, comer led by comer.
• 47:47
  And lo and behold, now what, 24, 48 hours later the, uh, Patel is now
• 47:53
  arrested, uh, and, uh, Bondi, uh, the DJ has arrested this guy regard
• 47:58
  in regard to that Benghazi fiasco.
• 48:00
  So, the question I might have and, and, and I'll pose it to both of
• 48:03
  you guys 'cause you have intel, uh, minds that I don't have.
• 48:05
  Uh, the question I might have is what did the Clinton, what did
• 48:09
  the Clintons know about Benghazi?
• 48:11
  It may not relate to Epstein at all, or it may relate to Epstein.
• 48:14
  I don't know.
• 48:15
  Um, I do know this, which is very interesting.
• 48:17
  I'll mention that when I was in New York last, and John, if you remember the
• 48:21
  panel discussion that we had, uh mm-hmm.
• 48:22
  By, uh, by my literary agent, Doug, uh, Doug.
• 48:25
  Uh, after that I walked, I walked down the east side, uh, with the gentleman
• 48:29
  that walked me right past Epstein's house.
• 48:31
  I'd never seen it before.
• 48:32
  Um, and he says, he says, this is, uh, this is the Epstein Mansion on everything.
• 48:36
  And it just so happens to be like a block away from where the council on Foreign
• 48:40
  relations, uh, ions, I don't know if you looked in the council on foreign relations
• 48:43
  at all, uh, what that is, what that has been historically set up, basically by
• 48:47
  JP Morgan and, and, and the Rothschild.
• 48:49
  But, uh, but if we go, we go back to this gentleman that's just been, uh, arrested
• 48:54
  and Benghazi, does that correlate and could that correlate, not to get away from
• 48:58
  John Brennan, but could that correlate to, uh, what the Clintons might be,
• 49:02
  might be, let's just say hiding from the American people and, uh, uh, and, and
• 49:06
  and more importantly, Hillary Clinton.
• 49:09
  No.
• 49:09
  Hillary Clinton testified for 14 hours about Benghazi.
• 49:13
  And, um, and, uh, both Obama and Trump won, ordered all the Benghazi
• 49:19
  documents to be, uh, declassified.
• 49:21
  They're all out there.
• 49:22
  I think Benghazi is over and done with.
• 49:24
  It's great that we caught this back two, or whatever his name is today.
• 49:28
  He's the third of the six primary perpetrators of the murders at Benghazi.
• 49:34
  I think there are 18 or 19 people altogether who have been, um, indicted.
• 49:40
  But, uh, yeah, he, he landed at Andrews Air Force Base at
• 49:44
  three o'clock this morning.
• 49:46
  He's in the Alexandria federal federal holding right now.
• 49:50
  He's never gonna see the light of day.
• 49:53
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:54
  And, and we're not done hunting those, the rest of them down.
• 49:57
  I
• 49:57
  see.
• 49:57
  And gentlemen, you have to forgive me.
• 49:59
  I have another, uh, another podcast in less than one minute, so I have to,
• 50:05
  you gotta go.
• 50:06
  I apologize.
• 50:07
  No worries.
• 50:07
  Thanks John.
• 50:08
  Thanks for the conversation.
• 50:09
  Yeah, fabulous.
• 50:14
  Ian, it's, uh, you know, I, I was there in Benghazi shortly after that attack.
• 50:20
  And, uh, it was pretty bad because, uh, you know, two of my buddies were killed
• 50:25
  and, uh, the mortar that landed on the roof, uh, and I got, uh, you know, some
• 50:29
  of their body armor that was bloody and all that kind of stuff, and got it, got
• 50:32
  it back to, uh, some certain people.
• 50:35
  But, uh, I, I didn't feel that Hillary Clinton herself was culpable
• 50:43
  other than, you know, maybe they could have allowed some, uh.
• 50:48
  Like the Marines were on, the Marines are on standby in that area.
• 50:52
  Uh, in the Mediterranean, uh, there's jets that could have
• 50:54
  came in all kind of crazy stuff.
• 50:56
  Uh, and they, they ba they basically shut 'em down.
• 51:00
  Uh, that's a story that I got.
• 51:02
  So they could have come in and made a difference.
• 51:04
  And the guys that were there at that base, uh, you know, fought off guys that were
• 51:09
  trying to attack 'em for a long time.
• 51:11
  And then they got mortared.
• 51:12
  So I think there's, uh, there's prob you could probably find some problems, uh,
• 51:18
  with them and they wanted to cover it up so that Obama could get reelected.
• 51:21
  That's my thoughts.
• 51:23
  There, there's probably some stuff that could come out and
• 51:25
  make them not look as good.
• 51:28
  Uh, but as far as like, direct culpability, I don't
• 51:31
  think there's anything there.
• 51:33
  I don't, I don't think she's gonna get, uh, like John said, she testified
• 51:37
  for, you know, a long time and, uh, and you know, she made that, that.
• 51:43
  Very bad statement where it's like why does he anyone care now?
• 51:46
  You know?
• 51:46
  It's like, it's like really?
• 51:48
  So, uh, it's, they're just bad people, all the way around.
• 51:52
  Of course, they, uh, they started all of that in Egypt, uh, with the mus, with
• 51:57
  the, um, was it Muslim Brotherhood, uh, that was, uh, in Egypt, uh, that they were
• 52:03
  basically, backing and took over Egypt?
• 52:08
  Do you remember?
• 52:09
  No, I don't recall.
• 52:10
  Uh, yeah, I don't recall.
• 52:12
  So,
• 52:13
  right.
• 52:14
  Maybe not the Muslim brother, but whatever, uh, sect that was,
• 52:17
  uh, there in, uh, Egypt that took over, uh, they were behind that.
• 52:21
  And then the Egyptians basically kicked, kicked 'em out after wi after a year.
• 52:25
  So there's, there's a they were messing around in, uh, you know,
• 52:28
  the Middle East quite a bit.
• 52:29
  And causing a lot of problems.
• 52:31
  Uh, the Iran, you know, thing there, there, I guess, uh, Obama was like, you
• 52:36
  know, everybody should, you know, revolt.
• 52:38
  And, and that's what happened with, uh, Benghazi and everything.
• 52:42
  And, uh, that we're, we're gonna see, uh, I think a big pushback, uh, at some point.
• 52:47
  Uh, that they were involved in some stuff that I mean, you're, you're in
• 52:51
  your high stakes, treason, you're, bringing out all kind of great stuff.
• 52:55
  But we'll probably see Obama, tied in with Brennan as well on a, on a level
• 53:00
  that's treasonous as what you thoughts
• 53:03
  Oh, my, my thoughts are, um, absolutely.
• 53:05
  And we've there's, you know, there's, there's an overlaying to me it's
• 53:10
  like, there's an overlaying theme of, um, where we go from Clintons the
• 53:15
  bushes, uh, then Obama, and then it's like, uh, you know, all of those.
• 53:21
  Factions.
• 53:22
  They were so opposed, right?
• 53:24
  They were just so opposed to, to Donald Trump, he's a complete outsider.
• 53:28
  He's gonna expose, right?
• 53:29
  He's gonna expose the criminality.
• 53:31
  He is gonna expose the scheme.
• 53:34
  That's being the, the wool.
• 53:35
  He's gonna pull the wool, uh, off from the Americans, American's eyes.
• 53:39
  I mean, and that's basically how he's been treated.
• 53:42
  He's been a complete outsider.
• 53:43
  And and he's, you know, he's, he's, he's a warrior in there trying
• 53:47
  to get trying to get things done.
• 53:48
  But of course, you've got this, this theme of, okay, how far,
• 53:51
  how do these connections go?
• 53:53
  And certainly Epstein, you don't have any involvement, doesn't look
• 53:55
  like any involvement with Obama in the Epstein, uh, and Epstein.
• 53:58
  But and, and I haven't, John said he'd come across that connection with,
• 54:02
  uh, Brandon and, and Epstein, but he didn't really go into that much.
• 54:06
  Um, my, my guess is Michael, my guess is, uh, this book
• 54:12
  because of the contents of it.
• 54:15
  Because it exposes this manipulation of critical national intelligence by a very
• 54:22
  trusted uh, uh, leader for the country.
• 54:26
  That as it continues to circulate that that it will have some very,
• 54:32
  uh, uh, devastating effects, I believe on this kind of deep state
• 54:37
  mechanism that has strangled, uh, the life of the constitutional
• 54:42
  republic, uh, of the country.
• 54:44
  And, and that's certainly my goal is that if anyone has committed crimes, uh, that
• 54:49
  they'd be held accountable for the crimes.
• 54:51
  It's, you know, it's not that I have a, uh, it's not that I have a target to go
• 54:56
  after John Brennan because, you know, I don't, I don't like him as a person or.
• 55:01
  He crossed me wrong or I worked for him and he didn't treat me well.
• 55:06
  Uh, I, I, I never met him.
• 55:06
  I never spoken to him.
• 55:08
  I'm not, I frankly, I have nothing against the guy.
• 55:10
  But the information that was presented towards me shows me from my vetting that
• 55:16
  he has committed treasonous crimes on the country, and he needs to, uh, be brought
• 55:21
  to justice for those crimes, or at least, uh, a, a courtroom needs to be, uh, needs
• 55:27
  to be analyzing them and and he needs to be testifying in regards to the content.
• 55:31
  So, I have, since you and I spoke last, uh, an update here as I have spoken
• 55:36
  through a text, uh, with Mike Davis.
• 55:38
  He's a, a Head of Pro Article three project in, in Washington, dc.
• 55:42
  He's also working right now with Jason Es, uh, who's, uh, I believe the lead
• 55:46
  attorney, uh, for that South Florida subpoena of Jim Jordan that Jim Jordan,
• 55:51
  uh, uh, letter that came, uh, that went to the DOJ, uh, requesting he be subpoenaed.
• 55:56
  And so now, uh, he's, you know, his lawyers are working.
• 55:58
  They're trying to change, change the jurisdiction.
• 56:00
  Brandon hasn't been in, in the news for a couple weeks now, but, uh, my
• 56:04
  understanding is his lawyer's been trying to change that jurisdiction.
• 56:07
  That's Fort, Fort Pierce uh, court.
• 56:09
  Judge Cannon, the same judge by the way that, uh, that just sentenced.
• 56:13
  Uh, Ryan Ruth, an interesting thing that, that I'll also mentioned.
• 56:17
  I dunno how much time you got left here, but the interesting thing, Michael, that
• 56:20
  that has, uh, come uh, my way is a Mike Bens, uh, uh, report back in August and
• 56:26
  he compared, uh, Ryan Ruth, who he claims and shows that he was, that Ruth was a CIA
• 56:32
  asset recruiting Pakistani and Iranian, uh, men to join and fight in Ukraine.
• 56:39
  And and he was asking for passports.
• 56:42
  Okay.
• 56:42
  Bring up passports again, asking for passports so he could submit,
• 56:46
  uh, administer, uh, visas.
• 56:48
  Or get Visa authorized for these people to go invite Ukraine.
• 56:51
  Well, this is the same act that the CIA was doing, uh, uh, in the
• 56:56
  early two thousands, uh, or or late 19, uh, 1990s to get those, uh,
• 57:01
  15, uh, hijackers in, into the us.
• 57:04
  I mean, it's, it's, this is pretty critical, right?
• 57:06
  This is pretty critical information.
• 57:07
  And again, that's testimony, not my testimony, it's testimony from
• 57:10
  this, uh, former state department worker Michael Springman.
• 57:14
  So I think as this, as the contents of this book circulate and Push, and
• 57:18
  hopefully Mike Davis gets involved with it, perhaps hopefully Mr.
• 57:22
  John Brennan, uh, gets back in a courtroom and he's not only subpoenaed
• 57:25
  for the lies that he gave the perjury indicted, I would say, uh, at that
• 57:29
  point, hopefully for the perjury charges against him, uh, that I would assume
• 57:33
  should be coming down to Congress, but that he be questions questioned regarding
• 57:38
  the contents of this book, because this is what's plain as day, Michael.
• 57:41
  This is what's plain as day, is that in SEC documents, we show this in
• 57:45
  what's called the Ethics Waiver.
• 57:46
  And nothing in this book is classified.
• 57:48
  This is all, uh, open sourced.
• 57:50
  It's all, uh, public information.
• 57:52
  It's just that it was aggregated by the appropriate source to be able to combine
• 57:55
  it, and it's been delivered to the, to the public in the, in the masses through me.
• 58:00
  Is that is that, that nine, uh, 2009 Ethics Waiver by Norm Isen.
• 58:04
  We see very clearly, uh, the Rachel Molinaro who's the
• 58:07
  Office Ethics Office officer.
• 58:09
  She writes on that ethics waiver that John Brennan has stated that
• 58:12
  he would be converting those stocks held in the analysis corporation
• 58:16
  into a four, uh, into an IRA.
• 58:18
  We were held in the 401k.
• 58:19
  They'd be converted into IRA, we see through subsequent SEC documents, and we
• 58:24
  have some of them listed in the appendix in that book that, uh, he never converted
• 58:29
  the, those stocks into the IRA, had he converted them, that they would've been
• 58:34
  liquidated worth then about $50,000.
• 58:37
  Um, he didn't convert them.
• 58:39
  Uh, it rose to when the when that company sold.
• 58:41
  It rose to a value of as where we estimate just shy of $5 million.
• 58:46
  And that is just one example of the illegally, illegally held stocks.
• 58:51
  And this is gonna be irrefutable, it's gonna be impossible from my vending.
• 58:55
  It's gonna be impossible for him to, uh, refute that.
• 58:58
  Uh, we have it laid out in the book.
• 58:59
  These are massive crimes.
• 59:01
  This man has committed financial crimes.
• 59:03
  And now the other crimes, uh, uh, uh, are are something else.
• 59:07
  But, uh, but potentially this individual could be facing
• 59:10
  many years, uh, uh, of justice.
• 59:13
  Uh, and it's, it's not only my job, again, to, uh, to educate
• 59:16
  the American people to do that.
• 59:17
  And again, what I will say, Michael, is WW we, we've gotta, we've all gotta
• 59:22
  go through the contents of the book.
• 59:23
  Uh, we've all gotta study it.
• 59:24
  We've all gotta read it.
• 59:25
  Gotta get our neighbors talking about it.
• 59:27
  Buy a copy for, for your coworker.
• 59:29
  And don't let us stop there.
• 59:31
  Demand.
• 59:32
  Demand that this man be held accountable for the criminality.
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  'Cause if we don't all contact, that means contacting the DOJ.
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  That means contacting your senator, contacting your rep demanding
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  that this p this person be held accountable for the crimes.
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  And if we don't all do that, then uh, you know, it's, it comes back
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  to, to people like me, the author, people like you, uh, people like John.
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  And we can't rely on just us.
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  And we, it needs, it needs more people.
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  Now, I know that John because he's been very outspoken recently,
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  uh, of how he was treated.
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  Um, he's, he's spoken to some, some pretty, uh, high level folks recently.
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  He shared that with you or not.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Uh, and just out of confidentiality with John and the information he's
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  passed along to me, um, he didn't go into it with, in, in this episode.
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  And that was maybe a personal decision or maybe because he wasn't
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  asked the question, I don't know.
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  But in confidentiality, I won't go into it.
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  But I know that he's spoken with some pretty high level folks recently.
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  Um.
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  I mean, we, we keep pushing and, and, and we keep making strides.
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  But for viewers out there, and listeners and Michael, uh, what I will say is this,
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  after the last time you and I spoke, uh, a couple days later, I get a text from Roger
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  Stone, uh, and Roger Stone says, Hey, uh, people have been contacting me because
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  they saw the Michael Jaco interview.
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  Great interview.
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  Awesome.
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  Awesome.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I, yeah.
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  I love Roger.
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  It's his work.
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  And you know what, you know, he's another one that, you know, had a
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  lot of pressure and, has, gone to jail and all that kind of stuff.
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  So, uh, this is chapter three.
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  I, I brought up your Kindle version.
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  I have the, have the, uh, audio too.
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  Uh, and you're talking about how Brennan's, former boss, CIA director
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  George Tenet, despite his failure to prevent nine 11, we have the best intel
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  sources in the world, and we couldn't.
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  Stop nine 11.
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  That to me was like, that was a big red flag to me.
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  And so it sounds like these, a lot of these guys are corrupt and you're kind
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  of pointing this out in the book as well.
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  It's not just Brennan, but we have, uh, probably a long list of these
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  guys that, uh, support each other and, uh, you know, make each other,
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  help each other get become rich.
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  George Tenet cashes in on Iraq, the former CIA chief is earning big money
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  from corporations profiting off the war.
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  So this seems to be a trend in the ccia.
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  A I can tell you from my experience, this is, uh, this is accurate.
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  Yeah, no, I mean, this is something that I'd mentioned, uh, yesterday, uh, with,
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  uh, a guy named, uh, Paul Holler, uh, excuse me, Paul Harold, H-A-R-R-E-L-L.
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  And his podcast is is, is what is.
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  And I, and I touched on it earlier, what did George Tenon know?
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  You know, what did, what did he know that he's still hiding to this day?
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  Absolutely.
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  That could have, uh, that could have prevented, uh, those attacks now.
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  Operation Northwood is something that I, uh, that I've mentioned in the past.
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  Yeah, very good.
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  Because this is basically
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  what I was up to, the John F.
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  Kennedy, uh, they wanted him to do it and he was like, no way.
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  And then they killed him.
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  Of course.
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  Well, they just dusted it off and brought it out again.
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  That's what total, same thing.
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  That's exactly right.
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  That's exactly right.
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  And um, and, and it looks like, again, and this is why I mentioned
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  the shadow, the communist movement and the shadows that have been
• 1:02:46
  lurking through the decades, because objectively what do they want to do?
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  Well, the first thing is destabilize the union.
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  And they're doing a good job of it.
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  Unfortunately, right now you fractionalize it you pit you, you create this
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  dialectic, you create a left and a right that, pitted against each other.
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  Um, because as we know, uh, uh, divided, uh, divided we, uh, we
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  fall uh, that's just the way it is.
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  Um, uh, in a, in a union you stand, um, that's their long-term
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  objective, of course, is to break to, to weaken the union.
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  Um, they're doing that.
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  And then you chip away at those constitutional rights.
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  And and if you, and you can do that, and you can lurk in the background.
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  Here's a, here's something else I always consider is, uh, you know,
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  we are, we're, we're not even yet 250 years old as a nation.
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  Uh, you have monarchs in Europe that are, you know, that are triple that.
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  You have is an example the United Kingdom, uh, which is a subservient.
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  And we spoke to this earlier, uh, last time.
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  Subservient.
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  The monarch is subservient to Lium, which is known as London today.
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  It's a Roman banking center, right?
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  Uh, this is, uh, this is, uh, uh, uh, this is, uh, William of William,
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  the 10 66 that conquered the British childs but didn't conquer Lium.
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  And the Lord Mayor, which controls the monarchy the
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  Charles or the Queen they don't.
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  They don't control London, London controls it.
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  And that's, that's is this is, this is very important to understand
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  these empirical, uh, uh, structures, uh, that, that are still in play.
• 1:04:17
  And I always argue that control our own financial system and our own federal
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  government, we're, we're, we're not quite as free as we think we are financially.
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  We are, uh, we, we have our military and it's the most impressive on
• 1:04:29
  the on the planet's ever seen.
• 1:04:31
  And we have our, uh, geographic country, but we don't, we don't
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  have our economic independence.
• 1:04:35
  And that's not, you know, it doesn't take a, uh, third grader to see that because
• 1:04:39
  you got $36 trillion federal deficit.
• 1:04:42
  You know, why, why does it not ever get paid off?
• 1:04:44
  But, uh, but again I believe.
• 1:04:46
  The deep state is this communist apparatus lurking in the backgrounds,
• 1:04:50
  in the shadows, slowly grinding and slowly chipping away.
• 1:04:54
  And if it takes them 200 years, it takes 'em 200 years.
• 1:04:57
  Again.
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  Their families have been in power for far longer than that.
• 1:05:01
  Uh, so if it's their great grandchildren that are finally able to, to
• 1:05:04
  destroy the, the us but another, the critical component of that.
• 1:05:07
  And when I was addressing Dominion Servers, we can look at U-S-A-I-D
• 1:05:11
  and the money funded and, and I was given a graph, uh, a couple weeks
• 1:05:15
  ago of how, uh, the U-S-A-A-I-D money was funding Dominion servers.
• 1:05:19
  And that means basically you're set up by the United Nations,
• 1:05:23
  uh, which I question greatly.
• 1:05:25
  You're set up basically by the United Nations in a, in a such a
• 1:05:30
  sophisticated manner intellectually that you're committing, uh, you're
• 1:05:34
  committing national suicide.
• 1:05:36
  What I mean by that is, uh, the United States is, is
• 1:05:39
  funding, of course, voter fraud.
• 1:05:41
  Then you right, you because you're funding USAD and you're, you're turning
• 1:05:45
  around and funding uh, dominion service, then you're killing yourself basically.
• 1:05:50
  And why are you doing that?
• 1:05:51
  'cause you're not catching, uh, you're not catching the fraud that's happening.
• 1:05:54
  What we have here with ice stakes treason is a great opportunity
• 1:06:00
  to take down a critical player in that deep state, uh, mechanism.
• 1:06:07
  And if we can take him down, those domers are going to fall.
• 1:06:11
  And I firmly believe what we can, if we collectively come together and we, and
• 1:06:14
  we do this, uh, and we, we exhort this effort we can take this individual out.
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  And, uh, I
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  agree.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah.
• 1:06:21
  And if people like Stone and Carry Act aren't gonna help, aren't gonna hurt us.
• 1:06:23
  So those are gonna help.
• 1:06:26
  There's so much and you reveal so much, uh, information on him,
• 1:06:29
  Ian, that's, uh, it's phenomenal.
• 1:06:31
  And, uh, people read the book and they'll, they'll see for themselves
• 1:06:34
  like I and John, you know, both part of the ccia a for a good number of years.
• 1:06:39
  And, uh, we read your book and we're like, what?
• 1:06:42
  We didn't even know some of the stuff that you pointed out.
• 1:06:44
  And you have excellent resources and references and so forth.
• 1:06:47
  So, uh, people can like I had one of, one of, I had one of 'em up.
• 1:06:52
  I just click on it in the, uh, the Kindle version and it pulls it right up.
• 1:06:56
  It's like, it's fantastic.
• 1:06:58
  Uh, so, uh, really, really nice job on, uh, the book and revealing.
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  So FI think it's gonna be one of those things that basically, you know,
• 1:07:07
  is the, it's gonna, it's gonna push him off, push him off his pedestal,
• 1:07:12
  pedestal, and then, uh, we'll they'll, they'll be able to take him down.
• 1:07:15
  So we getting involved, we, the American people, you know, uh, reading
• 1:07:19
  this and, and demanding justice.
• 1:07:21
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:07:22
  Exactly.
• 1:07:23
  That's exactly right.
• 1:07:24
  Let me just quickly revisit that, that comment that I was making in regards to
• 1:07:28
  George Tenet and that line that you wrote, that you read in the book is mm-hmm.
• 1:07:32
  That people need to, of course question the, that was not a raw terror attack.
• 1:07:39
  That was a designed engineered attack.
• 1:07:42
  And why was it done?
• 1:07:43
  It was to create this whole homeland security apparatus,
• 1:07:47
  this whole war on terror.
• 1:07:50
  And, and, and not to forget the Brennan crimes in the book were allegedly
• 1:07:54
  done during the War on Terror.
• 1:07:56
  That meant providing aid and comfort to an enemy during a war.
• 1:08:02
  That is the global war on terror.
• 1:08:04
  And that is another reason why in the subject of the book, the title
• 1:08:07
  of the book the word treason is used.
• 1:08:10
  Again, if you successfully, um, engineer.
• 1:08:14
  Um, and perform this nine 11 feet, then that is creating again, uh, the War on
• 1:08:20
  Terror, and that is used to break down those, those constitutional rights o uh,
• 1:08:27
  in a, in a, in a engineered, you know, two decade plan, slow slowly, right?
• 1:08:33
  It's slowly, slowly done.
• 1:08:34
  But, uh, but that's gonna be my, my next, uh, effort is to dig into
• 1:08:40
  what George Tenet may have known.
• 1:08:42
  And, and, and Buck certainly there.
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  Very good.
• 1:08:45
  Uh, very good.
• 1:08:46
  Uh, and I to, I completely agree to you.
• 1:08:48
  Uh, you know, having been part of that for over 20 years and all of us,
• 1:08:54
  almost all of us down range are like.
• 1:08:56
  Why are these wars going?
• 1:08:58
  Keep going on.
• 1:08:59
  'Cause we could, we could have crushed this in six months to a year.
• 1:09:03
  Why are we still here in like, in Afghanistan for over 20 years?
• 1:09:07
  It's insane.
• 1:09:08
  I mean, world War II or two rather, uh, was over in four years,
• 1:09:12
  you know, four or five years.
• 1:09:14
  And so we're in Afghanistan, a little pea dunk country for over 20 years.
• 1:09:19
  It's insane.
• 1:09:21
  So it's obviously major manipulation that's going on.
• 1:09:24
  Yeah, and I think, you know, not to, not to segue too much, and I can send you
• 1:09:29
  this graph, but there's these connections, uh, called, it's a, I think the title of
• 1:09:33
  the graph and it's, it's maybe 30 pages long, uh, is saying the, the silk, the
• 1:09:39
  third Silk Road or something like that.
• 1:09:41
  A lot of what was happening and what continues to happen in Afghanistan
• 1:09:44
  has to do with relations with the pharmaceutical industry and, and
• 1:09:48
  China and those that control the, the control that in those industries.
• 1:09:53
  But that's a, that's a whole other topic to get into.
• 1:09:56
  And, and I think I'll, I'll shoot that over to you, Michael.
• 1:09:58
  You can take a peek at that.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah, I appreciate that.
• 1:10:00
  Thanks a lot.
• 1:10:02
  Yeah.
• 1:10:02
  And
• 1:10:02
  so your book, uh, it's on, uh, it's on Amazon.
• 1:10:05
  Where else, uh, can people get your book?
• 1:10:08
  High stakes, treason?
• 1:10:09
  Yeah, I mean, I, I would, I always suggest, uh, ordering it from me directly
• 1:10:13
  helps my effort out a little bit more.
• 1:10:15
  I happy to send out a signed copy.
• 1:10:17
  You can Venmo me, uh, sign, send you out a signed copy.
• 1:10:21
  I just, uh, sent, uh, three copies out a couple days ago.
• 1:10:24
  But, uh, Amazon, certainly the, uh, the easiest way leave a review that
• 1:10:29
  helps, uh, with, with the ranking.
• 1:10:31
  And, uh, and know that, uh, I'm, I'm hoping, uh, I'm hoping
• 1:10:35
  to to have a, a second edition by July 22nd would be the Wow.
• 1:10:42
  One year anniversary.
• 1:10:43
  I'm hoping not committing to that.
• 1:10:45
  No guarantees, but that's my hope is because there's so much more
• 1:10:47
  development Michael going on in regards to, uh, the John Brennan coverup in,
• 1:10:51
  in voter fraud with his regard to Dominion what he knew about General
• 1:10:55
  Flynn and, and these different things.
• 1:10:57
  So, uh, so there's all of those types of topics will be
• 1:11:02
  Okay.
• 1:11:02
  Great.
• 1:11:03
  Uh, in the second edition,
• 1:11:05
  they can get your book at, uh, high stakes treason, is that correct?
• 1:11:10
  Yeah, high stake treason.com should come up.
• 1:11:12
  Uh, you might have to type in H-T-T-P-S.
• 1:11:14
  Did it come up when you popped it into the search engine there?
• 1:11:17
  Just high stakes treason.
• 1:11:20
  It wants to go to Amazon, but, uh, let see if I see it in here.
• 1:11:24
  I had it last show, so I'll find it and make sure I put it
• 1:11:27
  in the, um, description box.
• 1:11:30
  Awesome, man.
• 1:11:31
  Yeah.
• 1:11:31
  High stakes treason.
• 1:11:32
  And, and I, what I do is I upload all interviews interviews to that website.
• 1:11:37
  They go to the me I think it's media appearances.
• 1:11:39
  And then the homepage, the landing page for that website goes into some
• 1:11:44
  nice detail of the exact crimes, uh, that, that I allege were committed,
• 1:11:49
  uh, and and what needs to happen.
• 1:11:51
  What we can do in regards to, uh, in regards to reclaiming some of
• 1:11:56
  our sovereignty back from, from John Brennan and what he, what he's
• 1:12:00
  done Aiden doing to the country.
• 1:12:02
  So there's some critical information there on that homepage as well.
• 1:12:05
  Yeah, very good.
• 1:12:06
  And I, I did find that.
• 1:12:07
  So let me, uh, let me share it on the screen.
• 1:12:09
  Let put it in the chat and I'll put it in the, uh, description box as well.
• 1:12:12
  So yeah, this, this got great information and, uh, there's lots of links in here
• 1:12:18
  that you can, getting media appearances about the author book overview.
• 1:12:22
  So lots of really good press kit.
• 1:12:24
  So if you want to, uh, you know, have Ian on your show out there.
• 1:12:27
  So I, I recommend it.
• 1:12:29
  'Cause as you guys can see, uh, he has incredible amount of information.
• 1:12:33
  Ian, thanks so much for, uh, coming on once again.
• 1:12:36
  Great show.
• 1:12:36
  Thanks for bringing John on.
• 1:12:37
  He was amazing.
• 1:12:39
  So keep revealing.
• 1:12:40
  We're gonna keep doing it till we get this guy put away,
• 1:12:44
  so.
• 1:12:44
  Sounds good.
• 1:12:44
  All right, talk soon.
• 1:12:46
  All right.