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Epstein: Will a Blue Wave Midterm Finally Bring Justice to His Survivors? · Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast with Michael Foote & Mélissa Malebranche

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to brief Re, says I'm Michael Foot. Today we're
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: going to talk about all the dick picks Melissa's received
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  Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson trial separately, a video shoot that I
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: was really unprepared for. We're going to get into the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein investigation with the New York Times, and then we're
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: going to talk about the things y'all are sending us
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  Speaker 1: in the DMS. We got to put a stop to
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  Speaker 1: it almost. I'm sorry mom, Mom, No this is not
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  Speaker 1: the episode for you.
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  Speaker 2: But so you're just going to leave?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have no problem. We're both. I'm a Taurus.
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  Speaker 1: I have no problem cutting you out of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Me neither not you just people in jo No no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I hear you watch your mouth in the comments.
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  Speaker 2: Feeling No, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm welcome back to brief Re, says everybody. It's a
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: peak summer season. Were you at the beach this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: No? You like the beach though, I love the beach,
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  Speaker 2: and we just didn't go. And I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I think there was in the state sale. There wasn't, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I sent Melissa a video about estate sales about like
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  Speaker 1: the best ones in New York and I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we should check these out. There would be fun. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do like a YouTube done that. She said she's been
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  Speaker 1: to all of them.
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  Speaker 2: No, I haven't been to all of them. I've been
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  Speaker 2: to the one and the one in Chelsea, and it's
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  Speaker 2: hit or miss. And I think because.
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  Speaker 1: I've actually been to that one in Chelsea.
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  Speaker 2: It's very popular and I feel like the stuff is
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  Speaker 2: kind of picked over and overpriced.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm down to go to the other ones.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it more like flat Iron the one that we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about in the garage. Oh no, I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: the one that's like in the empty parking lot. It's
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  Speaker 1: more like flat Iron. Do you remember when there was
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  Speaker 1: the Chelsea bomber? Remember when that happened at the bomb
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  Speaker 1: went off? My favorite comment on Twitter was actually that's
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  Speaker 1: flat Iron.
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  Speaker 2: Not the bombing, not the people who got got But
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  Speaker 2: actually no one was.
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  Speaker 1: The comments were like, it's not Chelsea.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, actually actually it's the flat Iron.
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  Speaker 1: All the loyaltors in New York were like, actually that's
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  Speaker 1: flat Iron.
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  Speaker 2: You know they do this thing like realtors. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and I get it. You know, you got to make
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  Speaker 2: a book somehow, but like they keep on making up
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  Speaker 2: new neighborhoods or like saying things like when I lived
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  Speaker 2: in Brooklyn, I lived in Flatbush hardcore flat Bush right,
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  Speaker 2: and the realtor said to me, he was just like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: Kensington adjacent. Excuse me, stop it.
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  Speaker 1: No, they're like little Croatia.
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  Speaker 2: No you can't call it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, little Chuching, like no, we can't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird, and it's like, you know.
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  Speaker 1: What they're doing now? I was, I was for I
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  Speaker 1: think during the pandemic. Brad and I were bored, so
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: we just went looking at apartments to see if what
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  Speaker 1: we had was, you know, if we could do better.
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  Speaker 1: Turns out we couldn't. Much like redownloading the dating apps,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do better.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do better. It doesn't It doesn't mean you
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  Speaker 2: met bred on an app. Yeah we met on OKQ,
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  Speaker 2: did you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Wonder? And I met on an app too, But so
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  Speaker 2: back then, it's been such a long time. I remember
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  Speaker 2: that it wasn't even an app. It was like on
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  Speaker 2: your computer.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it may have been yeah, yeah, only fish j date.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't JDA's, it wasn't Ja's. I can't remember anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And I will tell you I don't know if men
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  Speaker 2: are still doing this, but when I was on the
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  Speaker 2: apps or whatever, one of the things that I would like,
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: maybe cut somebody uf immediately is that men were always
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  Speaker 2: sending dick pics. It was the most annoying thing in
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  Speaker 2: the world. And it was like, and I just what
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  Speaker 2: I really wonder about that is.
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  Speaker 1: Way to flex, Melissa. Everyone sending men must be nice.
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  Speaker 2: But what I really wonder about that is has that
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  Speaker 2: worked for anybody? And I'm going to but straight women
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  Speaker 2: I understand, I understand, But for for straight men who
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  Speaker 2: are looking for straight women, I would like any woman,
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  Speaker 2: because there's not a woman that I know where.
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  Speaker 1: The bra clasp right in the front came right off.
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  Speaker 2: Just right off the pantieswhere it's always and it's always
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  Speaker 2: just like what And also you're proud of that.
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  Speaker 1: Also, whatever happened to Hello, whatever happened to good morning?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was like, oh, hey, how are you dick pic? Like?
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  Speaker 2: So one of the reasons why I decided to go
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  Speaker 2: out with Andre was because he did not send He
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  Speaker 2: did not send me a and I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: not being that low, I mean, the bar was pretty low.
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  Speaker 1: If you, if you manage to not unbuckle your pants
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  Speaker 1: and take a photo, I'll go out with you.
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  Speaker 2: And he was seem like a nice guy. Like it
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  Speaker 2: was like him and maybe two other guys that were
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  Speaker 2: like just nice.
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  Speaker 1: It was that those are your dms, Those are my dms.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, just for the record, it's I think
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty much the exact opposite for the gays. If
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  Speaker 1: you're using too many words and not enough dick pics,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's how people end up getting blocked. But
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  Speaker 1: you can clock me in the comments if you're if
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  Speaker 1: you're on grinder, if you're living that truth. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into a sidebar.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's get let's get into a sidebar.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: You know what, no one does anymore? Tell me whatever
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  Speaker 1: happened to the mail? Just mail some photos. I love
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: getting letters.
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  Speaker 2: In the mail well because we don't ever get let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you something. I feel like our male person
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: must hate us because we never go get the mail
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: so like and it's jam full of like credit card offers, sure,
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  Speaker 2: and also the letters from the letters from the d
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  Speaker 2: m B tell me that I owe them money for
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: but it's like so I'm like, oh god, we haven't
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: checked it in like two weeks. But yeah, but I
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: we never check our mail because all of our bills
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  Speaker 2: are online. Yeah, we do everything online.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: So now the dog is so old. There are stairs
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  Speaker 1: by the mailbox, so I take him down the back,
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  Speaker 1: which is a ramp. Just it's not that he needs it,
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  Speaker 1: it's more for his ego and dignity. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: him to feel like, you know, he's faced with the
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  Speaker 1: challenge of the stairs and he's like, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: want him to have that little boots, I will say.
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  Speaker 2: So, Arthur Weasley is a tripod and sometimes he misses
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  Speaker 2: the landing. Oh, and I feel like if he hears
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  Speaker 2: us laugh, because sometimes we do know, he's like he's
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed and he like stalks off because he limps away.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: His Michelle Kwan at the Olympics. He just didn't nail it.
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  Speaker 2: He just didn't nail it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. He's so cute though.
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  Speaker 2: I love him so much.
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  Speaker 1: The way and he goes for it. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he knows he has three legs.
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  Speaker 2: I think he knows he has three legs, but I
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  Speaker 2: think that his ego is such that he feels like
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  Speaker 2: he can land anything because he's Arthur Weasley.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yes, yes, yes, so, but because of that, I
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  Speaker 1: don't go past the mailbox and I'll just leave it
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be like, Brad, did you get the mail?
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll get mad at him for not getting
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  Speaker 1: the mail?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you getting mad at him? Though?
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: Because that's my right. That is my right as a husband.
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  Speaker 1: I'm allowed to get mad at my partner.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. I get mad Andre all the time, but like,
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  Speaker 2: but not for Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I'm allowed to pick a fight just for attention. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's my right.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's that's not just your right, that's your personality.
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is your algorithm as showing. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: all the weird, wild, freaky things that come upon our feed.
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  Speaker 1: Not to be like the white friend that asks you
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  Speaker 1: about Michael Jackson, But can I ask you what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck is going out with Michael? I don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: There's like some sort of like drama about Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: I am completely unaware. Okay, sorry, I've disappointed Youah well, sorry.
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  Speaker 1: To be the person who asked the only Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry that I've disappointed you. What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: I guess there's drama with the movie Michael Jackson movie.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard the dram about the movie. Yeah, people are
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  Speaker 2: not happy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess it was like propaganda the movie that
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  Speaker 1: his estate basically created this propaganda. The movie because because
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  Speaker 1: for the pr, well, because it ends right before the allegations.
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  Speaker 1: The story of the movie is like, we're done in
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  Speaker 1: the early two thousands, that was it, okay, and it's
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  Speaker 1: right before shit goes down in court. So people are like,
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  Speaker 1: what's what's up with that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is, when you're going to do
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  Speaker 2: a biopic, it's the good, the bad, and the ugly, right,
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  Speaker 2: But if it's the estate that's sort of doing the
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  Speaker 2: movie and there are people who count on the estate
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  Speaker 2: to do well, right, the bad pr is kind of
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  Speaker 2: going to suddenly taking money out of my pocket for time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to cut, Yeah, we have to cut the ugly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the actual trial, Like people, now that the movie's
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  Speaker 1: coming out, people are revisiting what happened at the trial.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm telling you again, Michael, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: you guys out there also, please find the e reenactments
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  Speaker 2: of the trial with the fake Michael Jackson sitting there
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  Speaker 2: rolling his eyes and shaking his head. It is fake
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  Speaker 2: but it's so. But the thing is one of those
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  Speaker 2: things that you're watching. You're like, what am I looking at?
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  Speaker 2: Is this?
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  Speaker 1: If you're a casting agent and you want me in
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  Speaker 1: a reenactment of any sort of trial, please cast me,
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: because I would load as a dream as a role,
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: is it? I would love to be murder victim. I
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  Speaker 1: would love to be trial attorney casting.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, you can't be the murder victim either.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: I want to be both.
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  Speaker 2: No, but if you're the murder victim, you're dead. You're
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  Speaker 2: not going to be at the two.
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  Speaker 1: Different Yes, cast as cost me as the lawyer in
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  Speaker 1: OJ's trial. Let me be, Let me be Jenner, Let
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  Speaker 1: me Kardashian.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what's really funny. One of
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  Speaker 2: my mom always loves this. So Robert Kardashian Senior was
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: one of the attorneys for O. J. Simpson.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, God, that's why I want to be Costo.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: My mom's favorite part of the whole thing. She said
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: that she really feels strongly that all the attorneys knew
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: that he had done it right and they didn't think
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: that he was going to win. But when you look
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: at Robert Kardashian's faith when he's not guilty, he looks shocked.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, okay, all you have to say, and my
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: mom my, mom, I want to say this was it
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: like she recorded it somehow and you would like playing.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: She's taping over your dance for yeah, And I was like.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no, and she's right, She's right.
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  Speaker 2: He looks like he's like okay, and then he fixes
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  Speaker 2: his face.
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  Speaker 1: I've had to swallow it down in court a few
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: times because either something is happening, someone's going off, there's
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: surprise evidence, a witness does the absolute wrong thing, and
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, like, I do have a It's like a
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  Speaker 1: Looney tune. It's like when Tom and Jerry won, the
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: finger gets just like the mouse trap on the finger.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: That's when things like that happen. That's when my face
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  Speaker 2: kniece comes into play.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I get very anxious to do because the beta blockers
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: don't hit that fast, like you have to anticipate. So yeah,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: it's and it's hard, like I wait, didn't I tell
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  Speaker 1: you this? Okay, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been traveling a lot for these trials. Yeah,
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: and I sometimes and maybe half awake on the plane,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: answering emails or text messages. And so this guy dms
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: me and his name is set will Free. It's Will
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Wilfree Arc. He's like this YouTuber. I love him, didn't
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  Speaker 1: totally know who he was. He's more for like I
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: think the younger dude, Set much younger than me. And
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: he's like, Hey, I want to like hire you to
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  Speaker 1: do this video. It'll be so much fun. We'll shoot
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  Speaker 1: it in Brooklyn. And I'm like great. Like I was
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: on a say Yes to Everything kind of tour, so
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: i said yes, sight unseen. He's like, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: have you be like the defense lawyer for like a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of kids. And I'm like, oh great. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: you'll be defense.
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  Speaker 2: This is play acting, not like an actual Okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: And so he's like it's for my YouTube channel. I'm
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: like great, sounds like actually really a lot of fun.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I love signing up for like weird little like bookings
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: or whatever just to just to like kind of like
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: break up the actual court work. And so I'm thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be like cafeteria courtroom and like the principal will
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  Speaker 1: be there and I'll defend like the kid who stole
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  Speaker 1: the lunch money. That's what I'm imagining. And so he's like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, meet me at the school in Brooklyn. I'm like, great,
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  Speaker 1: I go there. I assume they've like it's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: It's actually it was kind of a bigger production than
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  Speaker 1: I thought for just a DM on Instagram, but he's
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  Speaker 1: got a really big following, so it was an actual,
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  Speaker 1: like set production. Anyway, He's like, hired these kids. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to be great. And he's like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: come with me out back to the soccer field. And
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh, maybe I'm like the ref like
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  Speaker 1: anytime someone does something wrong on the field, I defend
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  Speaker 1: them and it will be like a funny sketch kind
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  Speaker 1: of video. He told me like this is a comedy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like great. So we start filming. We're riffing, we're
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  Speaker 1: having a chat, we're having a good time.
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  Speaker 2: Are there kids around a bunch.
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  Speaker 1: Of like ten twelve year old kids on the soccer field.
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  Speaker 1: They're like intense soccer players. Okay, like Brooklyn kids who
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  Speaker 1: play soccer don't fuck around. So we're rolling in. He says, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like this is Michael. He's a defense attorney. We hired
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  Speaker 1: this defense tourney to sort of, uh, you know, defend,
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  Speaker 1: and I.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Was like, okay, defend who against what?
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Then he hands me clubs. He says, we hired a
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: defense attorney to defend the goal. And I actually because
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  Speaker 1: I was answering this on the plane, I booked it
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  Speaker 1: while I was. It was like right after a trial
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  Speaker 1: that day. So I'm in a full suit on a
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  Speaker 1: soccer fields.
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  Speaker 2: Though kind of funny.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's maybe for a great video. I did not
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  Speaker 1: know that I was the joke. Sure, I thought the
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  Speaker 1: video was the joke.
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  Speaker 2: And the kid kids will hurt your feelings?
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  Speaker 1: Kid, Oh my god, yeah, oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So he says, oh, all right, guys, if you wanted
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  Speaker 1: like kind of be menacing towards Michael. One kid spits
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  Speaker 1: on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Spit hm, he's read excuse me, and he's ready part
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  Speaker 2: of New York State Attorneys. Sir doesn't care wailing.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: So I want to say, it's maybe one hundred to
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty degrees outside, you know, like a
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  Speaker 1: nice reason ye breezy, full sun, no shade, no water.
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  Speaker 2: What are you wearing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm in a full like full like I came from court.
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  Speaker 2: I love this so much. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: These kids are whaling the ball. It's going maybe two
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles per hour. I want to say five hundred
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: miles per hour something like that at my face. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: and so, and these gloves are they're worn out right,
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  Speaker 1: We've got the holes in the gloves. And Michael, we're
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: going to do a pickup. Just kick the ball like
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  Speaker 1: about a foot from his head so we can get
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  Speaker 1: his reaction of Michael, So.
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  Speaker 2: Do you wear your glasses too?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have contact. The kid is about to
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: get the ball, he says, just you know, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have that good of aim.
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  Speaker 2: So you've been forewarned.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I've been forewarned. I said, what's the insurance on this production? Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, of course everyone working on the video
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  Speaker 1: is like the nicest person, sure, the loveliest person. They're like, Michael,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: you just wanted to We just wanted to check in
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: on you. You seem to be panting really heavily. We
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: just wanted to check in on you. See if you
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: need anything any water?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I say, anybody give you any water?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I said, I need about ten years of soccer experiences.
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  Speaker 2: When I played soccer.
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  Speaker 1: Not once in my life. Have I played.
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  Speaker 2: Soccer When you were a kid. What did you do?
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  Speaker 1: Watched TV? No, and I was like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I was you didn't do anything.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I oh, I went to.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Dance okay, okay, Dan yeah, tennis Okay.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: My parents put me in tennis club because because I
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: was like doing all the dance and art things, and
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: they were like, let's have them do a sport. So
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I did tennis, but again, wasn't very good at it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Quick like right after that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Summer you did a thing.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was I'm thirty eight.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: It was no, no, no, no, no no no. I understand.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: But I wonder if sometimes I feel like people who
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: play muscle memory punk omn play, but if you never
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: played soccer, then it doesn't matter.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I wasn't ready for them to be like, Michael,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: we need a shot of you diving for the ball
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: and landing on your on your side, because I did.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I texted well the next day and I was like,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I am sore of course from brunt yeah impact, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I will say though, the fact that you're thirty eight
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything because the goalie for Cape Verde is
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: forty and has two other real jobs.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I'm sure he's I'm not sure he's incredible.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: They did say. They were like, Michael, you we thought
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: this was this was like the funniest one we've ever done,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: because this is like a series they do, I guess
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: where they get someone who's it's like there to do
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: their real job in the an unorthodox setting. They were like,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: we thought it was so funny when you asked if
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the goalie could touch the ball with his hands. I said, oh, no,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I was serious. I didn't know that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Oh no, when is it? Is it out?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: We thought it was so funny when you were bleeding
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: from the face and crying. Yeah, it might be up
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: by the time this airs. I'm not sure if it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: out yet, but I'll send it to you when I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: when I comes out. But I feel like they probably
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: filmed it for World Cup sort of purpose. So sure,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I didn't. I didn't watch.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch any World Cup now one bit of it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I mean it was on like if I went to no, wow,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: was I I feel like, maybe, oh, you know what.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I was at a bar and it was playing, it
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: was playing and I watched for a little bit, but
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. You're looking at me like I just said
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: something really bad.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: You didn't saything really bad. I think it's like one
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: of those things that I'm always surprised when somebody says,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch any part of the Olympics, not one part.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? It's it's not that
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you need to be focused in. I'm not focused in.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I guess I did see some of it, but I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening, and I didn't know what
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the stakes were.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, so do you know like this like cave Verde
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: for example. No, actually I didn't.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Know about cave Verde because that was like headlines.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really big deal. So Andre's paternal side
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: of the family is that's like his ancestral.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I knew that, and you were always
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: thinking about going to this.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But so now my fear is that now that
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: everybody everyone's.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Going to go, everyone's.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Going to go, and you know what, they're going to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: ruin it? Yeah, because that's what happens when somebody discovers something.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: People get their Columbus head on and they just go
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and they feel they're going to go conquer it. And
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: now there's a hard wreck Cafe cape Verde, nobody wants.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to be chopping and Cape Verde.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Come on. That happens to me when I went to
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Costa Rica. Costa Rica has like I mean, on the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: one hand, it's hopefully good for the economy. On the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: other hand, that's not why I go places, is to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: go to like a Senior Frogs. I hate that ship.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: One time we were in Mexico and we were like, oh,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know, we're looking for some place to go, and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the guy was just like, maybe would you like to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: go to Senor Frogs. No, sir, I would not like
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: to go to Senor Fugs. I want to go where
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: you're going to eat? Are you going to It's in
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: your frogs?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: People are eating, it's in your frogs. I thought it
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: was like shot girls.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you can get like a chimuchanga, you
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like that kind of there's like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a buffet at the strip club, like a breakfast, twenty
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: four hour breakfast at the.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Where are you in your life and you're having breakfast
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: at this to the club, what's going on. What's happening
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: in the Home's happened, what's happening in the home. You
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: have to tell people when that video of you diving
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: for soccer balls is going to happen.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I worry that they're going to see it before I do.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I worry that it's going to hit the feed.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, so maybe you should try and get ahead
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: That's what people don't people. People will send me stuff
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and that I've that I've filmed, and I think there
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is this notion that if you're in a video or
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you're part of another creator's video, that like, you have
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of agency in a the edit and b
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: when it drops. I oftentimes find I find out after
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the family what the edit is and when it does edit.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I get why you wouldn't necessarily be a part of it,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: but I would imagine that if you are in something
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that they would say you, hey, Michael is going to
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: drop on January. I find out when I'm tagged interesting, Yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. I don't love that, no, because I just
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: it's not that I want to stop anything, but I
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: want to be ready.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I will say that there is a possibility they're telling
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: me and I'm just not seeing it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I am more likely to believe that you're just not
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: paying attention because you you kind of I tell you
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: things and you're like half listening, which is fine because
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I'm also half listening to you. So it's okay.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Our friendship is predicated upon misunderstanding. I'm always just learning
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: new things about you.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you like that.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, I told you you did.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: When eight years ago I wasn't paying attention four times
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you were going to scrapatizers for the week. I kept
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: calling you? Where are you in New Jersey?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: That scraping?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Here is the amscraptizing.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: This is under oath. Let's take a deep dive into
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: a topic. Let's talk about the New York Times Epstein investigation.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Very interesting.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Let's the New York Times investigated Epstein's death and they
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: ruled it as suicide.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: So I wonder what, Remember, Leslie Dobson was on our show,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and she's very much convinced that he's still alive. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: wonder what we should ask her what she thinks. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: would love to know what she thinks.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: She's yeah, she came in hot.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: She no, she came in hot. And I you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I also understand there are things that she said that
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I had never heard of before, right, So I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that makes more sense.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: But what's interesting is that I know she had said
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: that she felt that he was still alive. My feeling
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was when I heard that he had died, was that
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: he did not die by suicide, that he had somebody
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: had gotten him in the end. But so New York
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Times interesting, what do you think? What do you think?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I still think I don't.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Just sports, right, just what do you think?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I'm allowed a crazy conspiracy theory? And I think mine
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: is that he's still alive. Like I think, I think
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I've seen what wealth can do, like what wealth can
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: buy you, Like I've been around people of that sort
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of like echelon and wealth bracket, and it just why
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't he be able to bribe guards like this is
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that's absolutely possible, you know, Like I yeah, I just
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: feel like with that kind of wealth, you can you
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: can bribe people Like I just I guess I'm cynical
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: enough or I've seen enough in this world to be like,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, like officials are corruptible, Like that makes so
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: much sense to me.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: No, I definitely think people are corruptible and especially if
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you know you dangle enough money in front of somebody. Yeah,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of people will do things. I think it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: just that I don't want to believe that any one
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: person is that powerful and I and I understand that
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: there are people who are. So I am still leaning
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: towards he's dead but was murdered, did not die by suit.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I think that is my like backup theory for sure,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: because I think that when you look at someone like Epstein,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: his whole business was predicated upon connections to wealthy people
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and having dirt on them, right, Like the whole Epstein
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Island sex crimes was part of it was to get
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: dirt on people who went to his island so that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: he could blackmail.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Them so write them in his back pocket. You know
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: what I've never actually heard about Epstein is whether or
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: not he was actually good at what his job was
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: supposed to be, like the investment.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Part of it, right was that?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm sa saying? He wasn't?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: He was like a financier.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: He's a financier. And I've never heard one way or
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: another good at.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: That or bad at that? Right, Like it's like if
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you are a financier what did you do if it
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't running this island? I mean, because a sex trafficking business.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly does the cover story pan out for Epstein? Right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: That's why everybody thinks he's like an intelligence asset, because
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: he was like faking it in all these worlds where
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: he could like copy things that other people say, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: he wasn't regurgitating it the right way to somebody who
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: really knows, like science or exact financer.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So the thing about the New York Times investigation is
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that your investigation is only as good as the evidence
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you have access to. And we know time and time
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: again that the files are redacted, they're not comprehensive. We
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: have a recent judicial order to unseal them. The FBI
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: said they're not going to. So the notion that they've
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: seem to be leaning towards suicide based off what right
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: if you're if you've got ten percent of the information, Yeah, maybe,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: but what's that other ninety.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but yeah, I'm going back to thinking
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: about how this man made his money. He is from
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: modest means, yes, and was a math teacher.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: At like an Upper east Side private school.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Dalton, I hope we can say that not,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: but and then sort of pivoted to finance. So he
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: had to have made some money initially somehow, right, yes,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: but that amount of wealth, how did he do that?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Is it just being able to blackmail people? Or was
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it actually sort of kind of being good at what
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: he did. I'm just I don't know intelligence. I guess
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: so because he had because he knew all those people.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean at some point, if you were
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that well connected, right, don't you think some sort of
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: government agency is going to approach you to be an asset?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I never thought about that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: If you have access to all that money, all these people.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are the people who run the world. Yeah, no,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I get that is quote unquote Little Black Book.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so New York Times thinks he died by suicide.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: You think that he's still alive.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Where's Elaine in all of this? Right? Like, she's still alive.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: She's still in prison, she is. Yeah, she's not.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Going to say, I mean no, unless there's something in
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it for her. They've already sort of sort of set
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the stage for her to get out eventually, right Like there,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: it's happening kind of slowly, but it's happening because if
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: she was not who she was and didn't have maybe
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the information that she had, she'd be locked up. She'd
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: be locked up forever. Right, But because she is who
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: she is and had the associations that she had, they're
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: sort of like greasing the wheels to make it easier
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: for her to get out.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think if we win in the primaries
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and the next election that there is going to be
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: an actual investigation morephiles released?
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Only if there are are. So let's just say Democrats
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: do really well. But if there are Democrats in those files,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and there must be, I don't think that it's I
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: don't think that only Republicans are like sexual deviance, right,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: It's across the board. So I think if really high
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: level Democrats are in the files and they.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Know that, I know, well that's the tea. I mean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: obviously Trump is so involved in those files, right, we
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: know that he's mentioned thousands of times. We've got like
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a poem he wrote Jeffrey Epstein on the cover of
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: The New Yorker, Like they were very close. The Biden
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: administration had the Epstein files. Like it wasn't like they
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: just got the Epstein files a year ago.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: They had them.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: We've done been having them, so there must have been
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: a reason why they didn't release the docs, right.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who's in there? Yeah? Everybody exactly everybody. And I
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: think that that's the problem, is that there were so
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: many people in on it, yes, that if the whole
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: thing were to come out, I almost feel like parts
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: of the world would unravel.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Right right, Like, there's this guy on Instagram and TikTok.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: He's going around reading parts of the Epstein files at
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like different landmarks. He's like reading them at like Steve
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Tish like his office to and and reading the emails
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: out loud and do making videos about it of Steve
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Tish's emails to Epstein about you know, procuring a fifteen
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: year old Russian escort. I think he's like the first
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: guy getting sued for. Who's he's going to get in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: trouble for.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I think no, Actually, what was really interesting us he's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: getting in You're going to sue him for reading a
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: real email.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: That was in the deal?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: That was right, because how did the guy get access
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the way that everybody else got access to the files?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: He must have done something like trespassing or something like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there must have been
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: some sort of like little.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Or or is somebody suing him because they're angry, you
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like the thing about that is
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: then nobody is safe. That's what, right, Because if the
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: reason why, if it's not just Trump who's in the
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: EPSOM files and doesn't want it to be released, because
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I know that it's not just him, right, it's countless
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: people in finance, in politics, and entertainment, so in every
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: sector of our of our lives, then there will never
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: be justice for those girls, for those for those kids. No,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that's appalling, yeah, and it is. It does something to
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: realize that we're part of the society where there's not
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: there will not be justice for some people.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: That we value wealth, capitalism, all these things more than Yeah.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disgusting, right, And I know you think about it,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and when you think about it, when you think about
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: how deep it goes, how many layers there are, it's
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: really disturbing.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: This is like when we talk to doctor Dobson, You
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and I both left that conversation and I was like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I know that was an important conversation to have. I
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: don't want to look at it that close because it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: so disturbing, you know what I mean? And I think
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: about that like the wilful blindness that we do to ourselves. Right.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: The brain wants to protect itself. That's like what it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: there for. So when it's confronted with something so disturbing
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and distressing like that, we want to look away. We
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: want to just be like that is too crazy to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: ever be true, rather than say, let's let the truth prevail,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: even if it's disruptive. Disturbing changes a lot of things
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: in our day to day lives, right, like CEOs, a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: banking institution. It's like it could affect like so much
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: of our economy conversations. I don't want to be a
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: thanksgiven talking to people about Epstein Island and my family, like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: but if not talking about it is how we got here.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Right, So how else do we prevent those things from happening?
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's why I mean, I think
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: as disturbing it is to look at you know, Holocaust images, right,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: It's it is disturbing, but it's important to know, right,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: as disturbing as it is to read about and to see,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: you know, the images of slavery, it's it is disturbing,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: but it's important. We have to know about those things,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and you know, and and I want to say, we
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: have to learn about those things so that they don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: happen again, except that we don't seem to ever learn anything.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And there's always someone saying in the comments like, ah,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: move on already.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Move on already, or you know what, that's not true,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: that's not a real thing.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Why do they have to have their own parade? You know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: like there's always.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Someone here because always somebody, Oh, yes, where it's my parade?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Or you know, all lives matter, this is where's my history?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: One?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Correct? Correct?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: There's always going to be there's always going to.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Be somebody like that, and not just one somebody, a
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: lot of somebody's. Well this is depressing.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: How can I bring it back around? I'm trying to
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: think of how I can bring it back around?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, but but you know what, I think that
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: that's just it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But right, the instinct, that's the instinct, that's punchline.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Let's punchline is let's make this more pleasant. And sometimes
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I think that we have to sit and you say
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that all the time, right, sit in the uncomfortable space. Yeah,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: so you were going to say something, sorry.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: I think like the same reason why we haven't released
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: the full JFK files is similar to like, yes, there,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not there's probably tons of people in that's scene
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: files that are serial rapists and child abusers and doing
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: discussing things. I think the other side of that, too
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: is probably tons of people in our government working with
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: enemies really seeing classified information and rooms on recordings that
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: were like wait, we were we talked with this person
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: and that person, like there's a whole recording about this
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: back room bullshit. And I think like, in addition to
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: all the disgusting like violent abusive crimes, is probably a
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: whole other side of like classified illegal shit being discussed
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: that they can't true say yeah true.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I also wonder about I think I've said this before.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I you know, I always wonder about the people who
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: knew about it. We weren't participants, right, Like like the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: person who maybe got invited to go to the island,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: went to the island thinking, oh, here's jropy Epsteen is
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: my friend, a rich guy. I'm going to go to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: like a fun island, And then they got there and
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, this is not my jam and never
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: went back.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But we got a flight log of what right?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: But whoever is right? Whoever it is who went yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: went once, was like, oh no, I don't want to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: be a part of this, and then left.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I came here for my tie.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Correct. But that person didn't open their mouth to say
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: anything about what they saw even though they didn't. Now,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: are you doing that to protect yourself, to save yourself
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: or because it's none of my business? Like, is what's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the thought process behind that? It's like the people who
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: knew about Harvey Weinstein. Yes, think about all the people
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: who knew about that and didn't say or do anything
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: because why they wanted to get that next role. They
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: wanted to get that next job. He was so powerful
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they were afraid.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It's like in court sometimes I see something happening with
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: like someone else that's not my client, and I'm like,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I really want to get.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: In there to help save that person.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, if I die on that, hell, I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: can't die on this one. You know what I mean?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I would like to believe that all of
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: us have this moral compass where if we see something
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: going down that's wrong, that we will speak up. But
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I think when I think, what we forget is that
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: everybody also has like a healthy amount of fear, and
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: you're afraid of what's going to happen to you, what's
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: going to happen to your kid, you know, your livelihood, etc.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I also think this thing happens with like sex violence
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: survivors and victims. This thing happens where that becomes their
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: only thing in from the perception of societies. Yes, like
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: people who go through big trials like that, oftentimes society
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: labels them as that woman who press charges against Rock Turner,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that woman who to press charges against Trump right, so
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: often that becomes their headline, their title, their Wikipedia page,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and everything else is a footnote. And I feel like
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: if I were a victim in that situation, my mind,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I would be like, if I do this, it's possible
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that that becomes my story and that I lose control
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: over my.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Story, right, Like, that's got to be so freaking hard
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: to deal with of just being like, I got to
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: do the right thing here, and it might be at
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: my expense, it might be to the detriment of whatever
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I want to do in the future.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: That's got to suck, it does I mean, it's like
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you know something that you did or something that happened
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: to you many years ago, and now every time you're
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: somewhere that old thing comes back up again and you're like,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you know what, Yes, this happened to me, but I
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: am now I've gone on and I'm doing this really
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: important work or I have a like a relatively happy
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: life or whatever it is. But people always want to
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: like bring it back around to the whole, to the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: to the most spectacular part of your life, whether it's
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: positive or negative. Right, the thing that that you are
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: known for, you know what I mean.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: We've reduced people down to like the basest most like splashy.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Especially if we don't know those people. Yes, right, So
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I mean you know that's not something that say, you
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and I would do to each other because we know
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: each other, right, But if somebody doesn't know me, they're
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: just going to think that like on this person, yes right,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: and not that I am not my most authentic self here,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: but like I you know, I have a family. There
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: is nuance to who I am, right, And you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I think people will like look at you and be like, oh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Michael Foot, the TikTok lawyer, right right, and that is you, right,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: But that's not only but.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I also made homemade ice cream last night. You know
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: what I mean? What kind it was? Technically custard is
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: a friend recipe.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I love this is Oh my god.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I think we need ADHD medication. All right, we've got
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: some reviews here. This is tails from the DMS. Melissa's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: gonna take it away.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Friends. What I always say, well, Michael is a lawyer.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: He's not your lawyer, so get your own.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: We have a lot of DMS.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I'm in a bad way today because I left my
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: phone at home.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: So you borrowed my phone?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, Michael, that makes sense.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. What Melissa was like, can I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: use your phone? And I was like, yeah, it's right there.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: And then you were like what's the passcode? And I
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: told you? And then I was like, did you.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Like checked out?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, why didn't you know that? Why didn't
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you already know my past? Coode. I can't ans my
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: atm pen.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: You're lucky that I forgot immediately. So anyway, I don't
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: have my phone, so I can't read all the things.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: But there was this one from it was from whatever.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Somebody made a comment on the podcast and they said
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: that they enjoy that they enjoy our podcast, but the
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: vibe is off between the hosts.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing we have, right, Well,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you know what, off like we hate each other.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: We don't really like each other. That's true, for sure,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I loath him. But what I think is really interesting
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: is that then the next the next reviewer is just like,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: oh my god, Michael and Melissa make me feel like
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting at a brunch with them, and so I
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: think it's so interesting that people will watch them. It's
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: so interesting to me. People are the people who are
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: just like I don't think that Melissa really likes Michael.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: She's just there making fun of him and he's laughing nervously.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: But do you know what I mean? I think those
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: comments are so fascinating.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But it's like what we're kind of talking about a
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: little bit, how people perceive you based off like one
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: small little they're looking through the hole, and I.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Mean, and I think that, you know, and what I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: don't want to do is like constantly have to explain.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: That it really is like best friends who one kind
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of keeps the other alive. Like Melissa will be like,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: did you turn the stove off? Like, because I'm facetiming
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: her while I'm cooking.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like how do you do it?
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, shit, no, you're right. Or the time
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you wash my eye out because I got I got
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a Lyssa's essential oils in my eye.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And people were really like they were about the oil. No,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: they were worried about how we feel about Alyssa? Who
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: like you guys, do you guys even really like this person?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: We love her? I love her so much, right, And I.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Think that that's the thing is, like you guys are
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: it's like eavesdropping, which I love to do, by the way,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: It's like, are you dropping on a conversation?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Alyssa is like our ward, Like she's our child that's
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: been assigned to us by the government, like we have
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to take care of her. Alyssa texted us on fourth
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of the weekend and was like, Alyssa, where are you?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And she was on a horse in Montana.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: But you know what the best thing about it is
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: is that she was just like you know where I am?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: You know where I am? You're tracking me? And I
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's right. And then I went to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: look and I was like, oh, yeah, she's in Montana.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: She was moving. That was moving.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I do like to think that the three of us
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: are sharing one brain's capacity and like you've got the responsibility.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Alyssa has the alcohol tolerance. I have the attention issues.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Like the three of us combined one person, one person,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: do you think? And I love baiting. Alyssa has a
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: really bad fomo for anything. So anytime I see she's
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like in Montana, I text her and I say like,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with my friend on Love Island, just
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: to just to really get her freaked out. I do
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: kind of want to see if I can dangle the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Love Island friend to see if she'll wait.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: You have a friend who's who's on Love Island.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about this. I want to, but I don't.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I hate shows like that, but
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not watching.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I know they.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Don't tell them, but anyway, they're terrible. I do want
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to dangle that and see if I can get Alissa
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to fly home from Montana. We're not going to do
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: to come hang out there. You don't think she would.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: She books airplane tickets on her phone.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: It is, but I think the chaos is not quite
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like she's not going to leave Montana where she's doing
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: something Fun Island to steal a Love Island person. She's not.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: They weren't even they were out. They got The other
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: thing that.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing that I'm reading on the reviews is that
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the people want to see CJ. They do. They want
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to see CJ. They hear CJ, we talk about CJ,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: but they've never seen them.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: What's the problem The second we show them CJ, it's
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: curtains for us. For sure, it is over. It's going
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: to be this CJ show featuring Michael Melissa. Maybe yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: because he's so cute, adorable, and I don't want to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: get into like exactly right calling me about harassment, lawsuit stuff.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Or anything like that.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: He does glasses on, You're like, oh my god, adorable,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: glasses off, so adorable, you can't Usually it's one of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: those others.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's the cutest thing.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I check my glasses off. It's Westminster Dog Show, bark
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Bar Hunting Wolf Wolf.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Are you fishing?
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm just kidding.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: You're definitely fishing.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Nervously laughing Melissa is making me uncomfortable. I'm nervously laughing.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Good, you need to be uncomfortable more time, more awesome.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: So we're not going to show you CJ. And that's why. Also,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: his agents are highly litigious and they want a signed
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: contract for any appearance.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Friends, we'll get to see.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: It's very shy. Mystery is better anyway, Like the Denver Airport,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: The mystery is better.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Look at that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Look at that to you, sir, that's what we call
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a segue in the business. Yeah, Melissa, why don't you
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: read number three?
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Here?
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I love this one.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: This is from Bonnie o'livy, the not the very first
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: commercial popping off at the top of your Luigi episode
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: being for United Healthcare. I thought it was a joke,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: love yous.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I don't we have no control over use code brief
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: recess your next doctor's appointment for one percent off?
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea anyway.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, I want to read this one from c. Eighteen
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: oh eight from a scott I guess a Scottish person.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I can't even begin to imagine how many people are
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: in your inbox right now. First up, mushy peas. While
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: they're like normal garden piece, they are left to mature
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and become known as marrowfat peas see eighteen oh eight.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I hope you weren't submitting this as a way to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: make us like British food, because already British food Scottish.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: It's Scottish food.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Already you are digging the hole. We thought we were
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: at rock bottom. You said maybe there's a seller, so
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: they should be well seasoned from the right chip shop. Again,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I'm worried where this is going. Melissa Scotland also is
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: fantastic blood pudding. I've got to I might have to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: end the episode.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: No, keep going, keep going.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Known as black pudding. The best is Mcloud's of Stormway.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I may suggest some hagus. I think this is reach bait.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: No no, no, keep going.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: In Boston thanks to the Tartan Army coming to represent
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I cannot detract from our amazing Celtic cousins, though the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Irish are great. Anyway, take care and look forward to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Thursdays because of the show.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Is it's sire ce see signe see sigh eighteen oh eight.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I will I'm going to Scotland soon and I'll let
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: It's some of these words. What it's like, It's like
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: there's he's missing a key on the keyboard.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: What I mean?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: No, narrow fat peas. McLeod uh hagis I'm not blood
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: pudding If blood's in the title, No, it's curtains, clothes,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: casket for me.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I know what they know. But we were talking, so
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: we talked about the blood pudding and Lorraine shout out
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: to Loraine, who does my hair. She sent me a picture.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: She's from the UK, She's from England. She sent me
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: of her adorable granddaughter just calmly eating some black pudding
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: blood pudding. She's so cute and she's like a toddler.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: So I feel like if.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: They have to be conditioned, they're they're they're force feeding
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: blood puddings to the children at a young age, maybe
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: because if they tried it when they were adults. No,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: that's it good.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I am I'm going to have some.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: You're going to have something for sure? Well you're doing
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: you let me know how it is.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Will I am down to try? Yeah, I am down
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to try just about anything. I don't it's okay if
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I'm really conflicted because that is also my persona. I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: do try to be the person who tries everything. I
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: will try everything, But then you throw words out like
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: blood budding.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I mean what, I don't know, like honestly, like I
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: have I will say I and I fully admit this.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Picky eaters get on my nerves in the worst possible way.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: And I will also admit that my aversion to picky
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: eaters is weird for sure, Like there's no reason for
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: me to get so unhinged and angry at picky eaters.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but I just feel like I don't understand.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: What's the worst that could happen if you taste something
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: and you don't like it. I am not talking about
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: people who have any kind of like an actual dietary
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: restriction for.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: People who like go are those like they try to
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: eat like crazy things for the you know what I mean,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Like it's like four hot dogs this year the Glizzies.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I can't go it down like that.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I can't eat no, it makes me. I can't even
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: look at it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Throw a neck for a Glizzy I can't.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so I just feel like I don't understand
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: what the big deal is, Like what's gonna happen to
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you if you don't like I'm gonna what aer some
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: blood pudding?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: The Sergio Escobar says, just listen to the new episode.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks for shouting out to the five men listening, Melissa,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: you know what that is my demo. No man ever
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: comes up to me on the street and says, I
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: love your videos talking about let's talk about how you
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: shouted out to the five men who are listening to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: show because it's mostly women. I love that and I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: want it to be like that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Thanks or you, but I have literally no no recollection
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: of this of shouting out.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I also wanted to try them about not having tonahiuse
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I remember this?
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm dead.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Uh, perhaps I want I was an assistant manager at
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: a at a salon on the Las Vegas Strip in
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: my early twenties.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: That must have been good.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: A one hor woman came into the salon for a
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: mad cure appointment. Oh my god, I'm sorry. I'm not
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: laughing at someone with one arm. I'm laughing at how
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: insane our listeners are.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you guys have really good stories.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: You guys have really good stories, and I'm just not ready. Sometimes.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: She was scheduled for a fifty minute service. Her nail
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: tech went above and beyond and serviced her one hand
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: as she should. After the service, the woman asked for
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: a fifty percent. Lady, I'm gonna I'm going to stop.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: You know what, right.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Here, Sergio? Are you lying for attention? Sergio?
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Sergio was trying to get us canceled. Some people are
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: trying to bait me into reading reviews that get me canceled.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I can't look at me and.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Kill Garreff in the face after reading about a one
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: armed woman asking for a fifty percent discount. I'm an
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: officer of the court in the state of New York, Sergio,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: and you're trying to get me dirty like that.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, so he goes on to say, so
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: this lady asked forty percent. I told her no. Wait wait,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I told her no, but she pressed hard enough that
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: my higher up gave in and overruled me. My logic,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Sergio's logic was that she had a whole ass fifteen
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: minute treatment. On one hand, you don't pay by the hand.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Back me up here, love, y'all, Sergio.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: That's the end of world.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Sergio. You are a shitster and I like it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. For legal reasons, I can either ca
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I can either confirm nor deny. I don't know who's
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: signed to take care. I mean, are we really going
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to debate someone with one armlist?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: No, we're not. We're not go to But you know what,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: it just made me probably a do you know honestly
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: like patch your cat? Patch? All right? R I p Patch?
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: No your other cat Arthur? Okay, wow we have tot that.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Wait what did it make you think?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I picked that up like people who only you know.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Let's not, let's not. We won't. No, no, no no no.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I don't thought out of Melissa, but I will say, yeah,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I accidentally bought one shoe on it. I remember eBay
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: once I bought one shoe.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I do remember that.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: And the guy was like, it said one shoe in
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the description.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, during the pandemic. You were so mad.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And then I did write to him. I was like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I bought one shoe and he was like,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: it's a photo of one fucking shoe, dude, and I
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: and he was like it says one shoe, and I
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: was like, you know what, You're right, it is one
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: shoe and I've got one shoe.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Michael was upset with me because I was
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: like laughing at him, and I took the side of
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: the guy who was selling the shoe. I was like, listen,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: did he say there were two shoes? Did he say
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: a pair?
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: So you would take the side of the woman with
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the one arm in this argument, right, I guess you
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: know what you know, if you're living life with one arm,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I'm giving you a discount. Like I'm not gonna argue
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with you.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I not, Sergio.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: But but but to go back to you buying.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Buying one shoe, Oh, that's a shame on me moment.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Because because because when you sent me the thing you
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: sent me, the the ad Ford or whatever it was,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: it said one shoe. You did not You weren't listening,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? You weren't paying attention.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: And I understand because who buys one shoe? Right, you
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: buy a pair of shoes, but you did not read
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: it carefully.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: If you see me in court and I'm wearing one shoe,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: just no, I wouldn't do it to spite Melissa. I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: think I do you do wasteful throwing it out?
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: So I think I put it in those you should
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: have like planted something in it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Working out.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: This is by this has been brief well, maybe see
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you next week we canled. This has been an Exactly
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Right production recorded at iHeart Studios, hosted by me, Michael
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Foot and.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Me Melissa Malbrant. Our producer is CJ. Ferroni.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: This episode was edited by Nicholas Galucci.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Our associate producer is Christina Chamberlain and our guest booker
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: is Patrick Cottner.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Our theme song was composed by Tom Brifogel with artwork
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: from Charlotte Delarue Manessa Lilac, with photography by Brad Obono.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Brief Recess is executive produced by Karen Kilgareff, Georgia hart Stark,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: and Danielle Kramer.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: You can find me on Instagram at Department of Redundancy
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Department or on TikTok at Michael Foot.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm on both Instagram and TikTok as Melissa Albrandt.
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