Latest / In The Loop / EP14 - What's AI Really Used For: The Real State Of AI Adoption In 2025
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- 0:00Since ChatGPT launched, one of the biggest questions everybody
- 0:03likes to ask each year is what are people actually using AI
- 0:06for? According to Harvard Business
- 0:08Review, therapy and companionship has now become the
- 0:11number one most popular use case across the world ahead of
- 0:14writing, coding, or other productivity related tasks.
- 0:18Meanwhile, research has shown that 57% of employees are still
- 0:21hiding their use of AI from their bosses at work.
- 0:24In today's episode, we're going to explore all of these use
- 0:26cases and all the interesting research that's just come out in
- 0:29the last couple couple of weeks, and in doing so, start to get a
- 0:32glimpse into what today's society actually looks like and
- 0:34what we think the future may become.
- 0:36This is in the loop of Jack Horton.
- 0:38I hope you enjoy the show. So recently a paper came out by
- 0:52Harvard Business Review called How are people actually using
- 0:55Jen AI in 2025 by Mark Sanders. And what's highlighted really is
- 1:01how much things have changed in such a short space of time
- 1:04because he did the same study last year.
- 1:06Now the way he conducted the study is he analysed online
- 1:09forums, say like Reddit or Quora, as well as articles that
- 1:14included any explicit mentions of AI.
- 1:17The shift in what the most popular use cases were from 2024
- 1:20to 2025 was super interesting. And when Sanders groups all of
- 1:25the top 100 use cases, he grouped them by themes and he
- 1:29essentially identified 6 major categories, which were content
- 1:32creation and editing, technical assistance and troubleshooting,
- 1:36personal and professional support, learning, education,
- 1:39creativity and recreation, and then research, analysis and
- 1:43decision making. So here are the top 10 news
- 1:45cases of 2025 and then movement since last year.
- 1:48So number one was therapy and companionship, which by the way
- 1:51increased from #2 last year to claim.
- 1:53Now the top spot. Second is Organizing My Life,
- 1:58which is a completely new entry that wasn't even in the top ten
- 2:00in 2024 #3 Finding purpose. Another brand new category that
- 2:07wasn't on the list from last year #4 was Enhanced Learning,
- 2:11which jumped up from #8 in 2024, showing a massive increase in
- 2:15educational applications. A lot of mindset customers are
- 2:19learning technology providers, which we enable them to launch
- 2:22agents such as learning coaches and and other things like that
- 2:25into their products. So we've been seeing this first
- 2:28hand ourselves #5 is generating code, so cover this in a few
- 2:32episodes. But a technical use case that
- 2:34wasn't even in the top 10 again last year, Number six, this was
- 2:37generating ideas, which was the previous #1 use case from last
- 2:41year and has fallen 5 positions in just a single year.
- 2:45I think this particular one shows the shift in how people
- 2:48are using AI from just ideating with a chat bot to really
- 2:53starting to get things done #7 was fun and nonsense.
- 2:57So this was number six last year showing people still use AI just
- 3:00for fun. I mean, my use of ChatGPT image
- 3:03generator is the perfect example of that.
- 3:04I just turned my friends into random characters from TV #8 is
- 3:09improving code. So another technical use case
- 3:11that wasn't even in the top ten last year #9 was creativity,
- 3:14which is a completely new entry into the top 10 again.
- 3:18So #10 and the final one for this list is Healthier Living
- 3:21and it's really interesting, which is a new Wellness
- 3:23category. Again, wasn't on the list last
- 3:26year. So I think from a category
- 3:28perspective, what's been super interesting is how important AI
- 3:32has become to personal and professional support.
- 3:34Because that has now doubled from 17% of all the use cases to
- 3:37now 31% of use cases in just a single year, which really shows
- 3:41how transformative it is and can be for an individual.
- 3:45And if we think about what's disappeared from the top tenses
- 3:482024, we've lost specific search, editing, text exploring
- 3:53topics, troubleshooting, and general advice.
- 3:56And Harvard Business Review summarizes, this is AI not just
- 3:58doing our work. It's helping us organize our
- 4:00lives to find meaning, cope with emotional stress, and deal with
- 4:04real world problems. To me, what jumps out
- 4:15immediately is this concentration of deeply personal
- 4:19applications at the top of that list.
- 4:21You know, therapy and companionship, organizing my
- 4:24life, finding purpose. Now, some of these are a bit
- 4:27nebulous in the way that they've been defined, but they rank
- 4:31above all the traditional business applications.
- 4:33Now, I will add a bit of a preface to this and a nuance,
- 4:36which is that as we'll come on to in this episode, lots of
- 4:40people are hiding their use of AI at work.
- 4:42So maybe that's throwing the results here, but it does
- 4:45suggest that people are finding deep personal value in AI beyond
- 4:48them just being a productivity tool.
- 4:50I think the therapy and companionship use case merit
- 4:53some special attention now because I think this represents
- 4:57A profound contradiction in the world.
- 4:58People are turning to non human machines and entities for
- 5:03understanding human emotion, which is quite ironic really.
- 5:06We've created these machines that simulate empathy and
- 5:09understanding so well that many of us people prefer them to
- 5:14human to human advice and connection.
- 5:16Or perhaps it shows that the system in the world's healthcare
- 5:19systems with supporting mental health just obviously aren't
- 5:22there either. And there are many interesting
- 5:24questions that arise from this type of use case.
- 5:26What does it mean when millions of people start processing their
- 5:30deepest emotions through AI rather than a human
- 5:33relationship? It's very new territory.
- 5:35You could probably compare this to, say, the rise of social
- 5:38media over the last few years. But I think it is different.
- 5:40Yeah. I don't think we dismiss these
- 5:42AI relationships as inferior either.
- 5:45You know, for many people, especially those who say social
- 5:48anxiety or trauma or maybe very limited access to human support
- 5:52for whatever reasons, I guess AI companions may just provide that
- 5:57really important temporary emotional outlet that they
- 6:01wouldn't have. Because I know I personally,
- 6:04when I'm struggling with certain situations, I'm uncertain of
- 6:07situations, I go back and forth and ask different questions to
- 6:10try and I guess challenge my own thinking, understand whether I'm
- 6:13being a reasonable, whether my expectations aren't there or too
- 6:18high for someone. So I personally use it in that
- 6:21way. But the keyword I think is
- 6:23temporary because if people don't have access to a
- 6:26specialist, this could very well become problematic over time.
- 6:29And a perfect example of why this is the case is actually
- 6:34chat GP TS recent update. And I mean, you might have seen
- 6:36it that led to huge crisis and outrage and headlines all over
- 6:40the world. And the reason this is a
- 6:42potential major problem here is highlighted quite well by Chachi
- 6:46B TS most recent update, which they actually rolled back, but
- 6:49it got widespread headlines, lots of noise online, and it was
- 6:53called the most sycophantic model out there.
- 6:56And sycophantic meaning overly agreeable and frustratingly
- 7:01agreeable. There were stories coming out on
- 7:02social media on things like Reddit describing how the model
- 7:06actually endorsed people to stop taking their medication, saying
- 7:10that I'm so proud of you and I own in your journey and keep
- 7:13going. And it's obviously not
- 7:15intentional by open AI, but illustrates a key point here,
- 7:18which is that someone's suffering from an acute mental
- 7:20health challenge. So that's that's someone that is
- 7:24in a state of crisis. Things can become very dangerous
- 7:27very quickly by taking advice from a language model and not
- 7:30having access to regular human contact, especially when we
- 7:33consider some of the findings that I'll discuss later, but by
- 7:36KPMG, which found that over 60% of people do not Fact Check what
- 7:40they get from an AI language model.
- 7:42And for those of you listening to have young children, AI is
- 7:46going to be the equivalent of the Internet on social media for
- 7:49that generation. They're going to grow up with
- 7:52this thing as a key part of their lives.
- 7:55And so I really recommend people to educate and teach people in a
- 7:59really healthy way, encourage them to use it, but really make
- 8:02clear what the negatives and pros and cons are here.
- 8:06Because what we don't want to do is look back in 10 years like
- 8:09we've done with social media and gone, wow, we should have done
- 8:11things a little bit differently. A really good example here is
- 8:14the rise of say AI companions, because these are going to raise
- 8:17really important questions and on emotional attachment for non
- 8:22human machines and entities. And as that therapy and
- 8:26companionship use case becoming number one most popular in the
- 8:29world right now shows, this is a real thing we have to address
- 8:32quite quickly because so far we've seen online and in many
- 8:35news stories, you can Google it right now.
- 8:37People have become really attached to their AI and then
- 8:39suddenly the company behind them has made an update which say
- 8:43changes their behaviour. And these people really face
- 8:46that crisis of any loss of a relationship.
- 8:49And these bots are only going to become more realistic, more
- 8:53realistic avatars, voices, and you know who knows what in the
- 8:55future. So this really is going to
- 8:58challenge our understanding of what constitutes a real
- 9:02relationship and whatever the benefits of connection require
- 9:06another conscious being or can work with a non human entity.
- 9:10It really makes me think about Isaac Asimov's short story
- 9:13series called I Robot. Now, the film with Will Smith
- 9:17completely slaughtered the books, but that book ultimately
- 9:20was exploring the different situations in which a human and
- 9:25a robot can have a relationship and how it might play out in the
- 9:28real world. I recommend you go read it or
- 9:30listen to it because it's, it's very relevant to today.
- 9:32Anyway, that's the doom and gloom part.
- 9:34But there are also incredibly exciting possibilities here with
- 9:37AI complementing rather than replacing human therapy.
- 9:41You know, there's lots of research out there to show that
- 9:43AI can be super effective for mental health, screening basic
- 9:47cognitive behavioral techniques and also maintaining progress
- 9:51between sessions. So the most promising future
- 9:53might be 1, where an AI and a human therapist can work
- 9:56together alongside each other. So let's go to another piece of
- 10:07research that just come out this week.
- 10:08It's also really interesting. It moves away from, I guess the
- 10:11deeply personal domain into maybe the workplace personal
- 10:14domain because as we said, enhanced learning, generating
- 10:18code, generating ideas, creativity, these are all things
- 10:21that are still really important and relate heavily to the
- 10:25workplace. Now in this domain, it feels
- 10:26really weird to be still talking about the same things as last
- 10:29year, but essentially a year ago, Microsoft found that 75% of
- 10:33knowledge workers are white collar workers were using AI,
- 10:36but 78% of them were bringing their own AI tools to work
- 10:41without informing anybody and they called it BYOAI.
- 10:45Now. Recent research from KPMG in
- 10:47collaboration with the University of Melbourne,
- 10:50researching 47 different countries and 48,000 people, has
- 10:54found that the exact same thing is still happening, although a
- 10:58little bit less. They've found that 57% of
- 11:02workers are still hiding their use of AI at work, and 50% are
- 11:06presenting AI generated content as their own.
- 11:09The reason this is interesting in relation to this top use
- 11:12cases is that it's really difficult to understand,
- 11:15therefore what the top use cases are.
- 11:17Clearly, therapy and companionship is being taught
- 11:19about a lot online, and that's how that Harvard Business Review
- 11:23study was conducted. But right now, everyone at work
- 11:26is currently hiding how they use it.
- 11:28So what you could really call this is the rise of a massive
- 11:31trust crisis because it's a breakdown really of how you
- 11:34attribute a value of intellectual contribution by an
- 11:39individual person at work for decades.
- 11:42The product also the output of a knowledge worker is a report or
- 11:45analysis code, a design. And this represents the
- 11:49knowledge workers expertise, effort, and as I say, output.
- 11:53So now that connection has been broken.
- 11:55So when a big exec receives a report from a team, they can't
- 11:59therefore anymore assume that it has been done by that person
- 12:03because it might be large AI generated.
- 12:05I think what this KPMG research really shows is that in many
- 12:08organization, the culture sucks and it's one bill on a no trust
- 12:13between different people and probably a deep anxiety on both
- 12:16side of whether this is good enough work or that's the best
- 12:19quality work someone can produce or whether they've used AI.
- 12:22On the other side, whether you're worrying if your manager
- 12:24thinks less of you because you've used AI.
- 12:27And there's definitely a growing authenticity premium where we
- 12:31value purely human AI work as more valuable and more important
- 12:36than just AI work, which creates a massive incentive for people
- 12:41to conceal how they use AI at work.
- 12:44Because if they tell everyone that this is created by AI,
- 12:47completely created by AI, or assisted by AI, people go, well,
- 12:50I don't value it as much. We saw this with AI generated R
- 12:54just a couple of years ago. People would downplay any use of
- 12:57AI in their process out of complete fear that people think
- 13:01that therefore the output is rubbish immediately.
- 13:03And this fear and anxiety and concealment of AI has massive
- 13:09downstream issues. So let's consider training and
- 13:12development. How do you identify a skill gap
- 13:14in employees when you don't know which part of the job they don't
- 13:17know about, let's say for evaluating performance every
- 13:21month, quarter, or year? How do you do that if you've not
- 13:25been 100% certain who produced what and when?
- 13:28Are we measuring employees real capabilities or are we just
- 13:32measuring our ability to do good prompting?
- 13:35I spoke about this in depth last week if you want to go to the to
- 13:37that episode. And this really plays out in the
- 13:40incentive arena as well because an employee is incentivized to
- 13:44be more productive, but also incentivized to hide how they
- 13:47become productive. Because the employer wants more
- 13:50and more productivity, but also wants more accuracy and quality,
- 13:54which requires a lot of transparency about AI usage.
- 13:58And I touched on this last week, it really brings in the need to
- 14:01introduce hiring and talent assessment programs that are
- 14:04face to face because how do you evaluate quality when someone
- 14:08could be using AI? And it also requires a very
- 14:10trusting culture and an open culture led by the leader.
- 14:13Ultimately, the data from these studies really tell me quite
- 14:16clearly that we need to completely rethink how we
- 14:21organize, we evaluate, and we compensate for knowledge work.
- 14:25Our entire framework for professional advancement has
- 14:28been built on this premise of an output representing personal
- 14:32capabilities. And as that connection breaks or
- 14:35weakens, we need completely new ways to evaluate that output.
- 14:40And I think the most forward thinking companies are going to
- 14:43reimagine their entire job architecture.
- 14:45So instead of maybe traditional roles defined by just output, so
- 14:48writer, analyst, developer, they'll have to create new
- 14:52roles, maybe like an AI manager or AI validator who specialize
- 14:57in developing custom agents within their domain.
- 15:10So if we take a step back, what do all these studies tell us
- 15:13about the state of AI adoption in 2025?
- 15:15Well, firstly, AI usage is increasing in both breadth and
- 15:19depth. We're seeing this massive shift
- 15:21for deeply personal applications of therapy, organizing my life
- 15:25like my To Do List my shopping, helping me find purpose, which
- 15:29suggests that a is potential impact extends far beyond work.
- 15:33But meanwhile all probably the same people are using AI at
- 15:37work, yet still we're in a situation where a lack of trust
- 15:41in a culture, a lack of leadership from both managers
- 15:45and all the way to execs and C-Suite have meant that people
- 15:49are still hiding AI at work. I think this will start to
- 15:52change very fast. I covered this but Shopify CEO
- 15:55came out and said you have to 1st prove that this job cannot
- 15:58be done by AI before hiring someone.
- 16:01Since that's happened, Duolingo have done the same.
- 16:03I expect many, many more organizations to come out and
- 16:06make those that level of edict from the top all the way through
- 16:10to every single employee. And in doing so, I think
- 16:13empowers the managers to be a bit more open with how they
- 16:17allow everybody to use AI. Anyway, that's this week's
- 16:20episode. I hope you enjoyed it.
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