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AI taking jobs plus the Thursday Morning Big Dilemma, "Airport Rules", a "Acceptable Community Conduct Ordinance" in Barre · Aired Out

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Aired Out podcast on
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: this balmy Thursday morning. It is fridgid G spot with
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: me this morning, and I'll tell you right now. The
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  Speaker 1: older it seems like the older I get, and I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want, you know, I don't want to sound
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  Speaker 1: like a you know, a whimp or anything. But it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just what it is. Gee, the the older
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: I get, man, it's like the harder it is to
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  Speaker 1: deal with these temperatures. And yesterday I was complaining. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh oh wow. Every time I get out
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  Speaker 1: of the car, it's frigid. Man, It's like and yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: in this time of year, I go into an absolute
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  Speaker 1: And I know our friends and our listeners down down
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  Speaker 1: south they don't understand this, but I went into an
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  Speaker 1: absolute panic. And I do go into absolute panics this
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  Speaker 1: time of year. When I can't find my chapstick. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be driving down the road, I've pulled over and I've
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: been looking under the seat for it. I'm like, oh my,
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  Speaker 1: oh h People don't understand this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, trapstick is very important, yea, that is.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's the reason cause get into accidents. People spend
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  Speaker 2: all their time looking for their chapstick instead of driving.
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  Speaker 2: I can see how that's an issue.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. Hey. Can I make a quick statement, really
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  Speaker 2: really quick?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we got some birthdays to get to too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, really quick, Jed, I need you to go to
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  Speaker 2: the stairs and get that paper that I keep my
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  Speaker 2: keys on, scan it and shoot it over to me
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  Speaker 2: in an email, really really quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Jed's listening?
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  Speaker 2: I hope so, because I really need that done.
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  Speaker 1: Should we should we call them up and put them
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  Speaker 1: on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do that.
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  Speaker 1: I can do that.
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  Speaker 2: He could be in a meeting, but who cares?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Katrina Bradeen is on the birthday list today
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: along with Elizabeth Parol. That lady right there is an angel.
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  Speaker 1: I adore her. And to think that yesterday was Mazie's
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  Speaker 1: birthday Mazie logins and the very next day Elizabeth's birthday
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  Speaker 1: is amazing. I know I missed out last night at
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  Speaker 1: the post. Chris Barbieri, great guy, Happy birthday, Chris. I
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  Speaker 1: look forward to the Vermont Antique Classic Car Show this
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  Speaker 1: coming summer. Chris has the wheel on that and has
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  Speaker 1: for a very long time, and he's amazing. Kai Shangra
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  Speaker 1: on the list today. Happy birthday to you as well.
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  Speaker 1: Rex is going to be with us sut tomorrow. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what we're looking at weatherwise on this Thursday. Are you
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  Speaker 1: ready for this? It's not that bad. It's not as
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  Speaker 1: bad as yesterday. Eighteen degrees for the high today. We're
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  Speaker 1: looking at a few snow showers otherwise a good deal
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  Speaker 1: of clouds today and again eighteen tonight. We've got fourteen
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  Speaker 1: degrees overcast, guys. And then Friday Tomorrow twenty two, which
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  Speaker 1: is going to seem like a heat wave compared to yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of sunshine again, twenty two degrees weekend
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  Speaker 1: at this point. Saturday, some snow showers mainly in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: twenty two degrees, not much snow, maybe an inch or so.
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  Speaker 1: And then on Sunday they balled me twenty seven with
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  Speaker 1: a mix of sun and clouds. And I know Stacey
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  Speaker 1: Holten is down in North Carolina and just Stacy, what
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  Speaker 1: are you saying forty four this morning or not in
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina, Florida. Forty four degrees this morning in Fort Pierce. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: forty four, which is it. That's like an arctic blast
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  Speaker 1: down there. No, that's an arctic blast down there for those.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but it's summer for us. Well, of course
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  Speaker 1: it is forty four. My god, i'd wear shorts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well they can't. They can't handle the.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I got long John's on, I got everything.
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  Speaker 1: On daytime high of sixty three. Later today, he's saying, amazing. Gee,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin with you, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Should we begin with with.
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  Speaker 2: That, with what I'm sitting on?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, please do tell and I'm gonna pull I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: pull up Jed here and get them on.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I have him, I have him doing it for me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh he is, so he must have heard us, all right,
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  Speaker 2: he must be on. Okay, all right, okay, what's up
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  Speaker 2: with the with the couch which is absolutely beautiful by
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  Speaker 2: the way, Well, let me let me start by saying,
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  Speaker 2: you and I have been talking about putting some kind
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  Speaker 2: of a red tufted couch here, and so I did
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  Speaker 2: you know? I was looking and you were like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: don't uh, don't spend money. Don't I have to approve it,
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah because it's your show. So I guess
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  Speaker 2: you thought you were in control. So what I did
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  Speaker 2: was I was looking on Facebook, through messengers and to
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  Speaker 2: the Facebook marketplace and on all other places, and I
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  Speaker 2: saw this couch and this person had it for five
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars but they were moving, oh, moving out, and
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  Speaker 2: it was in storage and they had to clean storage
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  Speaker 2: out before they left. This was the last piece sitting
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  Speaker 2: in storage. So I sent you the picture. I says
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  Speaker 2: what you think, and you were like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: that's gorgeous. How much? And I said free? And right
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  Speaker 2: away you got like, I don't know, a heart on
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  Speaker 2: or something over it. Yeah, So we went to pick
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  Speaker 2: it up, you me and Jed, and we took my
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  Speaker 2: truck and we decided to stop and get coffee, right yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't drink coffee, but I got my drink
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  Speaker 2: my juice, and Jed and you went into the.
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  Speaker 1: And got coffee.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it because you're so scatterbrained and so bullah.
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  Speaker 2: So Jed comes out and he gets in the truck
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  Speaker 2: and life is good, and we're waiting for you. And
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  Speaker 2: out you come. And you go over to this white
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  Speaker 2: Now understand, what color is my truck? JD black, dark gray?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 2: And you go over to this white I think it
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  Speaker 2: was a suburban.
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  Speaker 1: You're really mean, you know that you you even have
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  Speaker 1: to dipriatize of colors these two vehicles.
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  Speaker 2: So you no problem. So you went to this white suburban,
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  Speaker 2: opened the back door and climbed in in it. And
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  Speaker 2: the guy in the in the place comes out like, hey, dude,
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  Speaker 2: that's my car. You look in the car and say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't smell right, And then you looked around and
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  Speaker 2: said oh shit. And you got out of the car
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  Speaker 2: and you waved to the guy like my bad. And
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  Speaker 2: you climbed into my truck. And I looked at you
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  Speaker 2: and I says, what the fuck? And you said, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I I climbed into the first vehicle. I
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  Speaker 2: got to who does that me? Clearly? I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: got into a white suburban and I have a dark
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  Speaker 2: gray pickup with coffee in hand, like you own it?
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  Speaker 2: Where's my glasses?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know? Okay, I'm glad his I'm glad his
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  Speaker 1: wife wasn't in there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad there wasn't any children in there.
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  Speaker 1: That too very much, and you you know, you know me,
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  Speaker 1: it's like when I'm often just flying with with my words,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just glad that I didn't get in there
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  Speaker 1: and be like, wow, she was a bitch. Anyway, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's rollers.
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  Speaker 2: They were not going to say the place. But they
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  Speaker 2: are kind of bitchy there, aren't they They're like they're
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  Speaker 2: not even happy there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I stayed in the truck. You got
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  Speaker 1: you got a good point there, but.
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  Speaker 2: It was hysterical. And then now we're going to pick
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  Speaker 2: up this this couch and it's snowing colder witches.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, in a brass broth.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it was horrible. I had the heat on the
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  Speaker 2: whole way, my heated steering wheel, my heated seats. I
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  Speaker 2: bundled up the whole thing for the drive in the truck.
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  Speaker 2: We get there and first of all, the place is
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  Speaker 2: covered in snow. It wasn't plowed, so we didn't even
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  Speaker 2: know where the entrance was. We finally pull in and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, you want me to get out and direct it,
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  Speaker 2: I says, I got backup cameras relaxed.
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  Speaker 1: The wind is whipping.
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  Speaker 2: It's the wind is.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And we get into the spot and we open it
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  Speaker 2: up and there's the couch sitting there. And I looked
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  Speaker 2: at you and Jed and I said, well, feel free
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  Speaker 2: to load it up. I'm going to go sit back
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  Speaker 2: in the truck because I was freaking cold. And Jed's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my cold, Gee, let me bow your gloves. And
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, we're in short. Well that's why you
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  Speaker 2: weren't shorts. He wears shorts all the time. So don't
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  Speaker 2: bitch that your hands are cold. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Put your hands in your pockets. Oh wait, they're shorts,
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  Speaker 2: so they can't warm up. So I loan them my gloves.
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  Speaker 2: You're out there, bitch and that it's cold. I'm in
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  Speaker 2: the truck as happy as a clam, listening to my
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  Speaker 2: Pitbull station. You get it into the truck, you tie it. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Half half of this couch is sticking out right, okay,
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  Speaker 2: And you're like, gee, the weather it said it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: get wet. That's the worst. I gotta calm down right.
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  Speaker 2: We get back in the truck and we're dripping. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't even move like five inches, and Jad's like looking
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  Speaker 2: back to see if it's okay. I'm like, dude, I
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  Speaker 2: can see it in my rear view mirror. Calm down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and we get it here, and the whole ride home
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  Speaker 2: it stops snowing, so the couch is nice and safe.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah it so it's always an adventure when I go.
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  Speaker 1: Out with you.
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  Speaker 2: It always is either you or I get in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was yours this time, but I've done some
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  Speaker 1: shit too, I know. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with
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  Speaker 1: you two.
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  Speaker 2: We had a great time, right yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing going going and picking up a couch
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  Speaker 1: and we had so many laughs.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, we laughed for like the whole lie.
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  Speaker 1: And the conversation on the way not only there, but
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  Speaker 1: on the way back. We won't tell anyone what that
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  Speaker 1: conversation anyway, my god.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: We try very hard to stay Stacy holdensane. It's surprising
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't end up on a milk carton as
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  Speaker 1: a kid. Wow. True, we have a lot to get to.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday was the first day of the twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: legislative session. I was at the State House for a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and had some connectivity issues there. I think,
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: you know, there was so many, so many people pulling
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  Speaker 1: the broadband there that it just kept crashing. So but
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: I tried to go live a couple of times, and
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: it was it was kind of an experience seeing all that.
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  Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, I wonder what's going to
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  Speaker 1: be happening now. I mean, this is it, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's showtime now here and Vermont and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of really really big decisions have to be made. One
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  Speaker 1: of them is the federal government has is giving America
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  Speaker 1: a thirteen billion dollar spending allowance to help with natural disasters.
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  Speaker 2: Now, is this America? The America that's also Greenland? Is
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: it America that's become like the Mexican Is it Mexico America? Now?
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Is it? What is it?
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Because now the Mexican president is complaining about Trump wanting
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  Speaker 2: to change the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, so.
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  Speaker 2: Do they get included? I mean, is it just America
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 1: Great question? Just curious this this money is to be
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: spent on natural disasters. And I know, you know, obviously
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: out West, if you see what's going on, I mean,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: California is just my God, prayers for everyone out there
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Northern California wildfires. I don't know if you've seen the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: pictures of the palaces or new fires that have sparked
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  Speaker 1: from it. Just yeah, and yesterday they had like one
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: hundred mile an hour winds. Yeah, yep, with a wildfire
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: going on at the same time. Well, thank god it's
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: not about global warming. Huh, right, that's important, you know
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  Speaker 1: idea some of these some of these homes were like
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: spontaneous combustions. Oh yeah, they were just going poof. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole town. They were doing it this morning
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  Speaker 1: on the Today Show.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: There's a whole town that just drove through completely got Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Like they drove through the town and the guy that
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  Speaker 2: was reporting it was his hometown, right, and he went
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  Speaker 2: to his house that he grew up in and it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there. Yeah, it was just demolished.
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  Speaker 1: Well, of the thirteen billion, Vermont is going to get
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  Speaker 1: some of this. I'll tell you in a second how much.
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  Speaker 1: But Vermont's going to get some dollars well from the
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  Speaker 1: July twenty twenty three flood, Right, Vermont is going to
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  Speaker 1: get Are you ready for this?
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm always ready for anything.
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  Speaker 1: Sixty eight something point something million dollars, okay, And for
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  Speaker 1: the next month or so, those in the big seats
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  Speaker 1: are going to be trying to determine exactly how this
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: money is going to be spent. Now. I don't know
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: about you, but it seems like the obvious thing is housing.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: You would think you would think this is Vermont's opportunity
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  Speaker 1: right here, well kind of to step up, step up
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  Speaker 1: and make a decision that is going to impact the
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  Speaker 1: history of our state going forward. If we're going to
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  Speaker 1: keep people here, We're going to keep teachers, workers, healthcare folks,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to keep the working class staying in this state.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Here's your opportunity right here, sixty eight million dollars. And
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be if you're going to start
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  Speaker 1: putting this into horseshit that doesn't have any real substance
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  Speaker 1: to it. We don't need another art project in Burlington,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: We don't need upgrades to the bike path in Burlington, right.
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  Speaker 1: We need real, real, good, solid, tangible.
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  Speaker 2: Change change that we see that's benefiting, right, Okay.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Not refurbishing of an opera house in some community that's different.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Well, that brings me to something and I wanted to
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: know can I read something to you please? Okay? I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: got an email from a listener who emailed me and said,
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  Speaker 2: I can't get down there to talk about it myself
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  Speaker 2: because I'm working, but can you please read this and
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  Speaker 2: share my views if possible? And you and I talked
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  Speaker 2: about it, and I'd like to read the email to
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  Speaker 2: everybody so that they can ponder this because this is
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  Speaker 2: an important topic right here in our town. Okay, So
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to read this, ok And this is on
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  Speaker 2: City Council Mayor Loson actions and the arguments on social
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  Speaker 2: media regarding the four hundred thousand dollars grant to be
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a DC for the purchase of the property at one
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  Speaker 2: three North Main Street.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's the JJ Newberry's building right down the road.
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  Speaker 1: And let's just preface by saying we just had the
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  Speaker 1: city manager, Nicholas Strelicastro, was just in here talking about
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  Speaker 1: this a little bit. I also want to say that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Steve McKenzie, the former city manager, is going to be
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: coming in next week to discuss this. And after Steve,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: with respect to Steve speaking next on it, Mayor Lowson
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: says that he's also going to be coming on the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: air to sit and talk about this, so let's say
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  Speaker 1: that first. Let's also say, as kind of a little disclaimer,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: this is an email that you received from someone from
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: view Yes what. I haven't read this email. I haven't
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: heard anything.
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  Speaker 2: It's very well written, all right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: This is not necessarily I'll put the disclaimer in right now.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: My opinion or mine or yours correct or the opinion
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of the aired out podcast correct. This is the opinion
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of a listener who wrote this in Yes, and again,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this what this is.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: It's very well written, and it's it's very concise and
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: very well thought out. And that's the only reason I
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: want to I want to read it because it's it's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: more directed to our community.
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  Speaker 1: Get ready with your comments, folks. You know I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to see what people have to say. Yeah, go right ahead. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so microphone.
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  Speaker 2: It's on very small print, so I'm bringing it up close. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I have read hundreds of posts and comments on Facebook
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  Speaker 2: and Front Porch Forum. As a longtime resident of Barry
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and one who pays close attention to what's going on
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: in central Vermont, I feel compelled to bring some perspective
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to this issue that is clearly dividing us. The main
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: argument is why should our tax dollars pay for this
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  Speaker 2: when we have so many other problems. No one is
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: disputing the fact that Barrier City taxes are high, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: no one is disputing the fact that we have a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: lot of issues that need to be addressed now. We
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: have a huge population of homeless people and people living
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: in poverty. We have roads and water sewer infrastructure in
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: serious needs of updates and repair. We need flood plans
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and mitigation. But in the case of one forty three
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: North Main Street decision, the problem doesn't lie with the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: potential sale of the useless building. It lies in the
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: way it was presented to the public. Until a few
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  Speaker 2: days ago, there was no information available to the public
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  Speaker 2: regarding city council decision to grant four hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: to be a DC. There are no There are now
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  Speaker 2: several articles on the subject from reputable news sources. If
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: one is willing to take the time to read and
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: consider all sides before making inflammatory comments online, I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to call on all Barry City residents to do their
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: research before Oh okay, now I screwed that up. I'd
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: like to Bury City residents to do their research before
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: creating unnecessary drama. This argument has created, perhaps unintentionally, a
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: smoke screen that distracts everyone from the real issues in
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: this community. I'd also like to call on Mayor Loson
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and Counselor Deering to explain to the public why they
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: feel the need to push this through so quickly and quietly.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: They're not without fault in this mess. Our city government
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: used to be just that barry residents working for the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: good of all community. Now it seems like everything has
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: to be one group against the other. We need to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: learn to think of ourselves as we need what we
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: need to learn to think for ourselves and quit playing
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: political games. So this person is not necessarily saying right
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: or wrong. This person is saying that the community is
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: not doing their research and all they're doing is throwing
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: back and forth innuendos and comments. And this person wants
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to know why this plan of four hundred thousand dollars
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: was made and passed without the community even knowing until
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: after the fact. That's what I'm getting out of this.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So I wanted the viewers to listen to that and say, okay,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: let me do some more research before I make a
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: final decision on how I feel about it, and let's
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: spend that money in better places, like the roads, like
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the sewer systems, like the poor people who can't even
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: afford to buy food, or the homeless who are out
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: there in this kind of weather. We're complaining that we're
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: cold and we have a house and warm cause they're
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: outside in it. So that's I just wanted to point
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that out so people can do some more research. That's all.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: There is so much to unpack here. I mean, you're welcome,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and this is something that has
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: been in this building has been an iesore for a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: long time. I know the media keeps saying fifteen years
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: longer than that. Man does anybody does anybody know if
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: we can get a comment here, that'd be great when
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that building went vacant, because I remember complaining about that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: building way back in the early days of Froggy right
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: with Tom on the air with me right and again,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Mayor Loson will be coming on the air with me
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: very soon, along with Steve McKenzie, and we're gonna ask
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the tough questions.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And this is again not mine or your view right, Okay,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: we have opinions, and we're entitled to them also, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: we tend to yours in my opinions that we do.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: We tend to investigate first and get facts. It sounds
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: like this viewer has done their homework. I know for
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: a fact that this viewer is very in tune to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: what goes on in the city and in the town.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And this viewer is not one who usually I know
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: for a fact, there's not one who usually steps out
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and beats their chest and makes their opinion known a lot. Sure, Okay,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: they just do a lot of reps and sometimes we'll
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: contact a council member or whatever to discuss. But for
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: this viewer to say, I'd really love for you to
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: get this out there so that people can become more
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: informed before fighting with each other, it's like going to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: war and not knowing what you're fighting for.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Sure, Verry City residents are going to vote with their
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: pocketbooks on this. How be a DC is going to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: find six hundred k is. I don't know how they'll
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: they'll do that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And that's not really our concern. That's because they're a
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: private entity. They are, and they can spend a million
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: dollars on coffee if they want.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what their budget.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Is, but I don't Well, apparently their budget is six
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: hundred for them, which leads four hundred for us. That
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: we should be using just like the money we're getting
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: from the government, we should be using it to help.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It wasn't think it wasn't that long ago. Wow, I mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: there you go. You just said it. It wasn't long
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: ago that I believe, And I could be wrong again.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: If someone can comment on what when they think the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: JJ Newberry building became vacant.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And if it's been over fifteen years, is this really
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the prior already think to spend our money on right now? Well,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's a good question. But it is
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: such an incredible I sor. It's not just a small
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I sor, it's huge.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Knock it down, but it's historic.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's historic.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Well, we need to find out that. I think the listeners,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the viewers and the community don't know all the details.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And if it is historic, then that's another thing we
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: need to take into consideration. If it's not historic and
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: it's such an iore do something with it for Christmas sake. Yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And again, we don't give our opinions on the air
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: about something like this until we do our research. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: doing the research is having Mackenzie on and having lows
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: on on. Yeah, you know, and and f finding out
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: what the thought process not only was, but on top
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of what the thought process of shelling out that money is,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: but also why was that done so quick and quiet?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You know? What's the story? And I think Tom losn'
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is an amazing person. I have a lot of respect
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: for Tom in a lot of different capacities. So I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: think him coming on and clarifying for the community is
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: he's not going to come on and give bullshit. You know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: he's not a bullshit kind of guy. So he'll come
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: on and he'll say, listen, this is what we did,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: this is why we did it. If people are upset,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: we can't make everybody happy. Sure, or he's going to say,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: you know what, maybe we were premature. I don't know
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: what he's going to say, but what he says usually
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: is pretty fastial.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: It was several months ago, maybe it could have been
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: easily over a year ago now when it was kind
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of being pushed around that the price tag on that
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: building was something please don't quote me, but I think
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it was around one point six million dollars, and the
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the feeling that many Central hovermonors had Burry City residents
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: was that it was priced way too high, which purpose
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: on purpose? And I don't I don't know.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know that for a fact. I don't know
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: that we're saying the conclusion based on the optics.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: But for a property to sit, such a huge property
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to sit and be such an iceore for so long
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: at a price tag at one point six again, don't
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: quote me on that. And if someone knows, please enlighten me.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Prevented anything from being done with that with that building
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: now that it's been down to one million dollars. What
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I have heard from conversations that I've had is that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Jeff Jacobs, who is I've never met Jeff, I don't
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: know anything about Jeff who is the owner of the property,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that he is so wealthy. This again, this is what
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I've heard, That he is so wealthy. Why wouldn't he
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: just gift the building to the city and say, look,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I don't really need the million dollars. Who doesn't need
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: a million dollars. I'm just saying I would love to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: see something productive done, something functional done with that space.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So hey, Barry, here you go. So the money is
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: not going to be Take that million dollars that you're
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: going to spend and spend it if you, if, if
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you guys, will spend a million dollars on a community
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: room or a teen center or or something else, or
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a million dollars to repair a bridge that keeps getting
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: jammed up during you know, floods or whatever, or something
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: you spend spend. Listen, you're gonna give me a million dollars,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: spend it elsewhere, and I'll give you the building for
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: free and you can tear it down and build some housing,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you know. Manager ster Elli Castro said, you know, maybe
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: some housing and some re till combined. Maybe maybe not.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: He also made it very clear that he is he
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: was a pretty transparent guy, that he really wants communities
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: in interaction with what they would like to see done
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: with that space, which is a really big space. We
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: do we need more than do we need parking in
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Barry Hell? Yes? Do we need housing more? Yes, that's
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of space over there.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: And the community, though has been has been shooting all
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: over Facebook and everywhere else ideas of what they want
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to see in Barry City. Sure, and you know, people
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: want to see a nice diner. People want to see
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: a nice restaurant. They want to see decent shopping here
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: at good prices. And we don't want to have some
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: expensive store come in that people can't afford to shop in. Okay,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: we want mom and pop businesses and stuff like that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Two of the problems with that is number one, And
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but as as a community member,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I'm entitled to my opinion. But the taxes are too
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: damn high to own anything, sure on the strip or
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: off the strip here. Sure, so it's hard for mom
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and pop businesses to come in and run a business
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: with the taxes so high, and nobody's listening to what
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: we want. Why don't we have some affordable retail places
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that the lower income families that are coming that want
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: to come to Barry can afford to shop in, because
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: right now they can't. And why don't we have better
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: housing for not only the people that are on the
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: lower income, but people that have money, sure, that want
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: to move here. But when they move here, they look
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: at a lot of the housing that's here and it's dilapidated,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: and it's just who wants to move into an area
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that has all subsidized housing? Sure, you know, so you
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: have to do both. So there's a lot of issues
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: where the money should go. Yes, but I honestly think
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: that the money should go to if we're going to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: make the strip pretty. Because we do a nice job
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: with lights during the holidays. We do a beautiful job
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: with flags up during important holidays and events and things
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: like that. We do parades, we do all that. But
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: then people that come into Barr from out of town.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Perfect example, we had some people coming in from Long
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Island and they drove through Barr and when I caught
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: up with them because they did a airbnb here, So
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: we went to where they were staying and they said,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: why is everything so empty? Why are all the it
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: looks like half a ghost town and half of we're
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: trying to run and run businesses, and so why don't
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: we work on that? And the roads they were saying,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: oh my god, you know, we had to drive around
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: potholes and stuff like that, and your roads are so
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: torn up. And I know that, but I know that
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Barry City has increased taxes over the years for infrastructure
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: and stuff. So where's that money? Okay, where's the infrastructure?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Because it needs to be done. I go Uphill Street
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: every day and I am constantly in the oncoming lane
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: to avoid the potholes, and I drive a truck right, Okay,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: so these things need to be addressed too. So, yes,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: there's a building that's an I saw and and and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: something needs to be done. But something needs to be
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: done with a lot of more important things too.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it could be a catch twenty two.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: It could be that the person who's selling the building
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: there's blood between him and Barry. There's gotta be whether
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: it's bad blood good blood. There's something there.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I wonder about that. I do.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: There has to be a reason why you put the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: price so high so that nobody could have that building,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And now he's coming down.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I wonder about this. I don't know.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about I don't know relationship.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't either, And I don't know
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: that there's there's bad blood there. But maybe there is.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe there is. I don't know there's but but this
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: is what happens.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, You don't have to be a rocket
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: scientist to know that that building's not worth anywhere near
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: one point six.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Why the community is battling back and forth and and
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and that battle is come a smoke screen from the
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: actual situation because we don't know what the story is.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: We don't know why that building looks like that. We
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: don't know why that building's been empty for so long.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: We don't know where because it neglected ye, and we
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: don't know why time, why Barry City has decided to
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: fork up four hundred thousand dollars towards it. Nobody knows.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: So people are speculating, and they're all battling back and forth.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: So everybody just shut up and let's get the people
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: that you've got coming in to address that for us.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Sure they should have probably addressed it at council meetings
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: for us, But now let's just stop and listen and
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: then we can draw. You know, I always I have
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of opinions in life, but my opinions are
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: drawn based on my research, sure, not based on Mary
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: down the Street says blah blah blah. So I'm going
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to agree with her, Okay, if she said, I'm going
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to look and see why and do my research and
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: then I can formulate an opinion. There's not enough out
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: there to formulate an opinion.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something we'll continue to talk about here. Yes,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it sure is. Are you ready for the Thursday morning
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Big Dilemma?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: This was email to me, and it's a rather long email,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to abbreviate the end of it here,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: But it says JD. I would rather not use the
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: name of the dealership or even make of my vehicle.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: But my vehicle was just has just over ninety thousand
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: miles on it and recently would randomly shift into neutral
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: while I was driving down the road. I'm not a
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: mechanic and I really didn't suspect much, so I would
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: just put it back into drive and think nothing of it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: The dealership that I bought it from is supposed to
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: support a one hundred thousand mile powertrain warranty and or
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: ten years. When I called the dealership, they didn't even
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: have my name in their system for being a customer
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: when I purchased this vehicle. After some time, they finally
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: found my name and then said that they would check
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: into the warranty and get back to me. Several days passed,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: and after a few days of not hearing, I called
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: them back and they had no record of my name
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: again or of my conversation from several days earlier about
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: having my vehicle examined. They told me that I could
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: make an appointment and that it would cost me one
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars an hour to diagnose the issues.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Three weeks later, I finally had my appointment and it
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: was in fact determined that it needs a new transmission.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: The email goes on and on about calling back and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: specifically requesting a certain individual that they spoke with and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: getting transferred to somebody else's voicemail, and they're just they're
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: just backpedaling. And this this person like also like this
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: person that wrote this email to you is not one
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to complain. They're pretty pretty quiet, pretty reserved, pretty private person,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: so they say, and I don't know this person, right,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: but they basically this guy is his wife very very
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: much wants him to post a pretty powerful review on Google,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and he is just explaining that that's not really, that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: not really who I am, and we need more positive
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: reviews than we do negative reviews, and most people post
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: negative reviews, right.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: But it's bad.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: It's bad business. But but his wife is really after him.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: She's like, well, if you don't post it, I'm going
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to post it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Well I want to say, g okay, and he takes
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: his headphones over. What says me, the way I see
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: this is number one. I think you should post it,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: but I think better is to contact the media, contact
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: the newspapers. This is bad business. And what's happened is
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: since the pandemic, businesses are trying to bounce back. And
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I get that because we all took big hits during
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the pandemic. But the bottom line is you don't try
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: to bounce back by cutting corners on your customers' needs.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And this has happened to many people that they go
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: to a dealership and they sign for their warranties and
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: everything else, and we pay for those warranties. It's not like, oh,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: we're throwing it in as a gift. They're not throwing
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: it in as a gift. If you buy a brand
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: new vehicle, the price of the vehicle reflects the addition
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: of the warranty. So they say, oh, when you buy
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: this vehicle, you get one hundred thousand miles or whatever.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: The price has been put it there for a reason.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: It covers the warranty as well. And if you're signing
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the documents that says that. And then you have an
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: issue with your vehicle, that's genuine. Because there's some people
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: that say, oh my tire went flat, they should replace it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Let's wear and tear. Okay, But when you're signing for
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: a car or a truck or a vehicle of any
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: kind and there's a warranty and you call up the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: business that you purchased it from, and number one, they
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: can't find you. Number two, they don't respond to you. Okay,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: that's just bad business. And I do compliment this person
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: who sent you the email that they didn't throw the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: business under the bus and didn't use the business name
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: and stuff, because they respect the fact that that the
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: person they're dealing with is. It's not them, right. And
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: that's one of the things I always laugh at, is
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna yell at that manager and tell him he
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: sucks at his job. The manager is doing what he's
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: told to do. Okay, the business should be backing up
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the manager, and the manager should have been able to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: find the person's name because you just spent money there,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and we didn't spend ten dollars. We'd spend thousands thousand
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: miles ago. But yeah, still, but you know what, if
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: you have one hundred thousand mile warranty, you still got
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: ten thousand miles to complain if something goes wrong.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: This this, this, this is a little it's a long,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: long email. But basically he's got almost four years left
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: in his ten year warranty.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Right, and so he he's entitled. And when they say
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: they found that the fault is that this person's driving
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: around with this vehicle could get into an accident, could
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: harm not only himself or herself, but other people. You know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: this is like I always say with drunk driving, I
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: don't care if you drink to your drunk as a
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: skunk and you hit a telephone pole, Okay, that's on you,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: or you hit a tree. But the thing that upsets
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: me is the damage they do to other people because
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: of their carelessness. Well, this business, it has the potential
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: of doing damage to the driver and also to other
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: people on the road, people crossing a street or whatever.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: So when somebody calls a dealership and says I'm having
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: a mechanical issue that I don't know if I was
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the deal, I wouldn't even give a shit what your
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: name is, Yeah, okay, if your feet, I'd say, please
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: bring it immediately and we'll get all that other information
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: when you're here, right, okay. And it doesn't say much
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: about the business's view on their customers if they can't
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: even find the paperwork on this customer. So I say
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: to the wife, I agree with you. I say to
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the husband, I respect your privacy, but then let your
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: wife post whatever, and let you and contact the media.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Contact seven days, contact and get your article printed. And
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: also see if you can have somebody do research on
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the business as to how reputable they are after COVID,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: because maybe they're just trying to make money and not
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: worried about who they're selling to. And that's an issue.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Too interesting insight there, Gie.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it was the G spot corner that we always say,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: we pick something on the corner.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Facebook question of the day, Artificial intelligence is coming for
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: your job? Certain jobs postal About forty percent of employees
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: or employers worldwide intend to downsize their workforce as AI
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: automates certain tasks. Postal clerks, secretaries, payroll clerks are among
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the jobs that are expected to experience the fastest decline
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: in numbers in the coming years.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Let's say, you, buddy, I have a problem with AI
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: on a lot of a lot of levels. I mean,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: AI has become beneficial official in our phones. It's beneficial
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: when we do. Think that's great, But did the AI
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: a photo on your Facebook? I know, isn't that fun?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: It makes me look ten times younger. Okay, but taking
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: jobs from people, I get it. It's more efficient and
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: the companies save money and all that, But then what
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: happens to those people who have been loyal to the
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: company for all these years? Right? You know, if that
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: person retires and the company says, well, this person's retiring
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: in January because they've hit sixty eight years old or whatever,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: let's look into replacing this person with an AI program
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever that'll be more efficient. I'm cool with that
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: because it's gonna happen. But let's not take jobs from
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: people who have been there for ten years, fifteen years,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: dedicated and say, listen, you cost too much, so now
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: we're going to bump you up and leave you out
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: in the wind.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: It's going to happen, though, by I.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Know it's a controversial. Another controversial subject, just like they
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: worry about is AI going to get too smart? You know?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Are we going to be stupid? And the AI is
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: going to be too smart in the meantime. I don't
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: know if anybody's experienced this, but I have many times
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: when I call someplace because I need something done or whatever,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, just bear with me. My computer
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: is slow today, or my computer's not online today, so
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I'll have to call you back tomorrow. So we're depending
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: on AI, and when it crashes, what do we do?
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: So is it going to get too smart for us?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think by the time AI becomes
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: a real thing, like a real takeover thing, I'll be dead.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: So let let the young generation to think they know
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: it all when they don't know much of anything because
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: they can't even do math in their head. Okay, let
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: them worry about it because they're the ones who are
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: gonna need the AI. Because when you go to a
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: store and it comes to twelve dollars and forty three
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: cents and you hand them at twenty and then you say, oh,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: and here's the forty three, but they've already typed in
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the twenty dollars. They're like, oh, what do I do now?
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm and they pull out that calculator and I
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: give them the answer and they're like, oh really, And
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: then they calculate and say, oh, you're right. I'm like,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: where did you go to did you graduate? I mean,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: did you did you pay attention in school? They're the
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: ones who are gonna need AI to help them get
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: from day to day. Listen, we shn't need that.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I suck at math. Any job that I would you
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: ever take, don't put me on the cash register, right right,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that right up front, right.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: But you got seventeen year old kids, I know. And
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the best is we gave them a job, we being
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: whatever business it is, okay, And they're complaining I still
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: got three hours to go before I go home, and.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Saying this to their other employees.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: While you're standing at the register waiting to.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Be served, or saying that they're hungover from the nightpo yeah.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: And I turn around and I literally say, when you're
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: done bullshiting with your compadre over there, do you mind
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: coming over here and helping me because I've been standing
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: here for ten minutes. And then they look at me, annoyed,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: how dare I? Okay, I think I told you the
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: story once. I may have said it on here. But
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I went to a food store and I got in
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: the line that had a beggar. I was like, yes
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: because I had a full caught, and the lady in
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: front of me was talking to the bagger. And the
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: beggar wasn't incapable of begging and talking at the same time, okay,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: So she would stop begging and have this conversation with
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: this customer about bullshit stuff. Oh I know, you know
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: the other day my boyfriend said, And she was going
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: on and on, and the customer started bagging for her
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: because the customers like, this chick is not shutting up.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: So I was next in line, and I had a
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: full caught and I can be pretty direct, okay. And
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: when it was my turn and the cashier started scanning,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: the beggar said to me, Hi, how are you? And
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I says, do me a favor, go bag over there.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I'll beg my own, and she's like, well, I'm here to.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I said, no, you talk too much. You don't know
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: how to shut up. I says, go over there, because
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: you can't do two things at once and I'll do
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: it myself, and the cashier looked at me. When the
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: girl walked away, the cashier looked at me and said
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: thank you. Because the cashier was getting frustrated. It's like,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to scan things in here and
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: send it down the line, and it's backing up because
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: this chick's talking too much. Well, I went there about
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: a week later to get something and she was there again.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I got on that line. She looked at me and
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: she's like helloop, and then she looked down and started begging,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: and I was like, thank you, and she says for
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: what I says, for doing your job. You know, it's
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: very frustrating. And then they complain about AI and come on.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: We just got to comment. AI produces more jobs than
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: it takes. That's interesting. Some has to still monitor the
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: work being done, or someone has to still monitor the
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: work being done, and the AI still needs handlers, but again,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: produces more jobs than it takes.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Well, what they're talking about now is the technical end
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: of it, Okay, because you have web web designers, you
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: have code writers, you have admins all that stuff, and
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: so yeah, they need more of those kind of people
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: to work with the AI. But I don't understand other
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: than that where it would give more jobs. It gives
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: more jobs to the technical people, So God bless those
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: people who come out of technical school and networking school
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: and get all these degrees so that they can help
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: create the AI. Yes, it does, but I'd be curious
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: for the person who said that to explain more of
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: what are the jobs that mainstake people, main mainstream people
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: that don't have any of that skill, how that would.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Benefit Well, you're going to have to ask Jed Forbes directly.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Oh that's my husband who said that. Yeah, because it does, Jeduar,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Because you, a network admin who works in a very
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: high position with very important people, have that job. Congratulations?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: But what about me who has who doesn't even know
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: how to use my fucking phone? Who need you to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: quickly send me an email because I lost an email
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: because I was trying to fote it instead I lost it?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: What about us? How does AI give me a job?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And Jed's like, oh shit, And I shouldn't have said
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: anything at all.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Of course I read something the other I read something
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the other day, and I'm going to read it here
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: quickly called airport rules for everyday life. Oh yes, it
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: is a way of saying that you're treating yourself and
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: anything goes, like eating pizza for breakfast, having a drink
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: at any hour, and wearing pajamas all day on social media,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: imagining that you're at an airport sounds like something that
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: requires little trigger warning, but it's actually about reducing stress
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: and anxiety. Traveling through airports can involve a lot of
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: uncontrollable variables. You've traveled through many so many people slip
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: into a treat yourself mode that ignores diets, fitness, and
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: other normal routines if anything goes. The idea is expanding
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: that to cope with every day annoyances. So if someone
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: feels overwhelmed or exhausted with regular life, they announced airport
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: rules are now in effect, and that clears the way
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: for eating pizza for breakfast, having a drink in the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: middle of the day, apparently, caffeine and energy drinks at anytime,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: comfortable clothes like pjs during the during the day, or
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: when you're going out shopping. Money means nothing and time
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: of day means nothing when it comes to airport rules.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And this was apparently in this article that I was
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: reading is a trend that really started kicking into gear
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: right around the elections. It's kind of a time for
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: like a free for all. Yeah, what do you think
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: about this?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think about it at all.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm really stressed out.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: So today I'm gonna put on pajamas and go to
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: the airport.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on pajamas, and I just don't give
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: a shit.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny because I come from I mean,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I lived on Long Island most of my childhood. Uh,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: and then Manhattan and then Upstate New York, and then
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas, and then I came to Vermont. Now, all
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: the other places I lived in was everybody was very
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: meticulous about the way they looked. The women had long
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: nails and high heels and slimming outfits, and their hair
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: was done in makeup before they ever left the house,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: even to go shopping. And if you go into a
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: mall over in on Long Island and you walk down
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: the aisles of the mall, the men and women are gorgeous,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: even the heavy set ones. And they said, they're all gorgeous.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: They really. I look at them when I go with
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Jed and we're in a mall on Long Island. I'm like, see,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: that's the way you should look when you go out
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: in public. You should. You should for yourself, not for
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: other people. Self respect, self respect. And then I moved
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: to Vermont and the first Jed said to me, oh,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: let's go to a bar, okay in Burlington, because we
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: lived up in Walden, up in bumfuck Walden, where we
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: were so high on the mountain that you could come
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: outside and you could shake God's hand because we were
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: in bumfuck Walden. Okay, So Jed finally took me down
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: off the mountain because I was staying home and I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: was taking care of We had five kids in the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: house and so I was taking care of them and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: taking them to school and all that stuff, which was
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: a twenty minute ride down a dirt road to the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: bus stop. So anyway, so he says, let's go to Burlington.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Let me get you off this mountain and into civilization.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Let's go to a bar and let's have some fun.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: And I says, Okay. So I got dressed up. I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: put on these really nice leather pants, I had this
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: great shirt. I wore my cowboy boots. You have leather pants, yeah,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: and well, remember I came from Vegas. We'll leather pants
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: going to a bar. It was normal, Yeah, okay, should
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: leather pants? No, God no. So we went to this
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: bar and I walked in and I was like, thank God,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I'm finally gonna socialize and stuff. And I walked in
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: and there was these people in cut off jeans, a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: straw hanging out their mouth, flannel shirts, hair that went
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: sixteen different directions, not because of hairspray and stuff, but
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: because they just didn't fucking combit. And I looked around
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: and they were looking at me. I said to Jed,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: please get me the fuck out of here. I feel
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: like a fish out of water. And I and over
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: the last twenty some odd years that we've been here,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I have learned that people put on their fuzzy slippers
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: and a pair of pajamas and go to the store
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: to pick up something at Nelson's okay. And I'm like wow.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: So it's taken me a long time to down dress myself.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: And when I do dress up, people are like, oh,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: where you're going? And I'm like, well, this is kind
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: of normal for me. So what say I about people
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: in pajamas? Say? You know what you do you I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: do me, Yeah, don't. I don't look and laugh nothing.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: And I just if I want to walk down the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: street with my long nails and it offends you, don't
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: look at me.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: And if somebody wants to wear pajamas to the store
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: and you don't like it, don't look at them.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: If it's you know, if it's really early in the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: morning or really late at night or whatever, and I'm
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: running out to get something for Lily or Sherylyn because
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: they don't feel well, you know, coughs arep whatever it
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: may be, or something for myself because you know, if
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I just I got a cold, I feel like shit,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a fever. I'm just going
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: to throw my boots on it go.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know a shit, And that's fine, that's perfectly fine.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I've done that too.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I was outside clearing my truck off this morning and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: making a path to my truck in my pajama pants
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: with a heavy shirt and a sweater and a hat
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: and gloves and pajama pants.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Glenn saying, that's pretty obvious. Look at your shirt.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with my shirt? Listen? Last time I was here,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I was told by people that I looked like a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: fucking vampire because I had a black turtleneck with this
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: black shirt that came up to the sides of me
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: and my white face. And they said, my god, you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: look like so this time I put color in, and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: what's wrong with my shirt? This is a brand new
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: shirt and brand new pants.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Something I read in the Times argus.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Glenn, You're always picking on me. I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: feel like there's no love there.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Something I read in the Times argus. I don't know
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: if it was yesterday, the day before. I'm not going
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: to read the whole thing, obviously, if you, if you,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: if if you want to read the whole thing, you
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: should subscribe to The Time sarcus or just buy buy
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: a paper hand But but here's you got to hear this.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I actually started to read this, and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: whoa whah. I need to go back and start over.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: You ready. In an effort and this was written by
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Dave Delcore. In an effort to address sustained reports of
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: troubling behaviors, city manager Nicholas Starelli Castro is considering proposing
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: something akin to a short lived ordinance that the City
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: of Brattleborough has adopted narrowly adopted, says Dave. The Acceptable
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Community Conduct ord that in Brattleborough was promptly petitioned by
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: residents there and rescinned last month at one of the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: community's representative town meetings. The vote was seventy five to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: fifty five Starelli Castro and Nicholas was just in here,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and I think it was like a couple hours after
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: he was in here that I read this and I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: would have asked him about it. He said on Monday
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: that Bradborough's overturned ordinance has provided a potential template for Barry,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: which has been struggling with many of the same issues
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: since he proposed offering to pay off duty police officers
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: over time to conduct focused foot patrols. And that was
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: back in the fall, and you can read more about
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it goes on from there.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: It's gonna bame that we have to have an ordinance
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: on how to behave in Barrie. I mean that you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: can break it down to its simplest form and say
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: can't we all just get along? You know, I leave
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: you alone, if you leave me alone, if you challenge me,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I want to know why, and if your reasoning is unfounded,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: then I come back and retaliate. Okay. But other than that,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: we talked about this during the holidays, that only around
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Christmas time people behave and people, why can't we just
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: do it every day all all the time? You know,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: we hear fighting in other houses, they're screaming, they're throwing
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  Speaker 2: things out windows of this and that. That kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Though ordinance should before because sometimes when people get heated
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, they start acting inappropriate in public, that other
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: people have to be involved in their drama. So that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: I understand, But don't tell me how to behave in
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: a town because because if something that's just said, that
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: that has to get that we're getting to.
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  Speaker 1: That aggressive panhandling was one of the issues that was
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: brought up, yes, and that it has increased in intensity recently.
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  Speaker 1: Well you know, I am going to be we I
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Rex is going to be in here tomorrow then we
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  Speaker 1: and I know, oh God, and we are going to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: be talking about aggressive panhandling. There is a problem there.
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  Speaker 1: That is is that has become so much more of
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: a significant problem in the.
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  Speaker 2: Last recently, the problem has become normality. Okay, you go
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: to price Chopper and they're holding signs out you go,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: and what's funny is right next to them is help
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: wanted signs. And I'm like people and they say, well,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I can't get a job because I don't have an address.
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  Speaker 2: Make up a fucking address, okay, use this city hall
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: as an address, get a job, okay. But I also noticed,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: and it was on Facebook, people were spreading around about
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: an individual that is not necessarily all there that I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: think was up at the Hannaford's parking lot that was
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: coming up to people aggressively for money and stuff like that,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: and right away, everybody on Facebook attacked this person. There
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: wasn't one single person that said, did anybody stop and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: actually find out what this person needs or get this
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: person help? Instead of calling the police and saying they're
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: irritating me, how about calling the police and saying, there's
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: somebody here that needs help. Okay, can somebody come and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: find out if this person needs to go to the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: hospital to be evaluated, whatever the case may be. But
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  Speaker 2: this person's reputation, everybody's attacking this person because of their
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: reputation and what they're doing, and nobody's looking at the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: bigger picture that this may be another person who's homeless
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: or hungry or cold or whatever, and how can we
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: help them get out of the parking lot demanding stuff
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: and get them the help they need. You know, there's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: always two sides to every coin, okay, and you have
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: to look at both. And if somebody comes to aggressively
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: and you want to call the police because you feel uncomfortable,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: that's that's. I applaud that. But don't call and say
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: somebody's aggressively way and they're annoying me. Call and say
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: there's somebody here who needs help. Can somebody come out
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: and find out how this person needs help because they're
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: they're affecting us when we're trying to shop. Okay, I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: think that's to me is more important.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: So Judy is saying, gee, you haven't been approached by them.
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  Speaker 1: I have more than once. So here's here's the thing,
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  Speaker 1: g and I completely and.
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  Speaker 2: Judy, I respect what you're saying, because no, I have
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: not been approached by them, and it's probably a very.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Uncomfortable, it's really intense.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then that person needs to get they need to
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: get that person help.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: This particular there's there's there's several, okay, but there's two
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: in particular who are just really they're not good people.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: And I don't need to go into detail of how
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and why they're not good people, but it's it's a
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: it's a public safety issue.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's yeah, then then call the police and say
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: get this person off and find help for them.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: And again, I'm going to be talking tomorrow's show, We're
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: going to really take a deep dive on this particular story.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: But this is something that is you know, when you're
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: being accosted really intensely, like if if Hrilyn's coming out
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: of Hannifferts or whatever and she's got Lily and this
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: person is just not take a no for an answer
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: and getting into close personal space, preventing you from closing
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  Speaker 1: the door of your car. That's not that's not right,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: arguing with you, pressuring you. We've crossed a line here, buddy. Oh, absolutely,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: this is a public this is a public safety and Judy,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I have never experience that. And I'm
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: gonna say based on me instead of looking at the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: humanitarian side of it, which I was trying to do,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: because I, like I said, I didn't have all the information.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going based on what I've seen. Sure, me,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: with my.
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  Speaker 2: Personality could almost guarantee that if this person did this
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: to me, I would be verbally aggressive back, absolute, fusolutely.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I would be like, get the fuck away from me
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: before I put you down on the ground, because you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: are in my space and I respect that. But then
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: when I finally got into my car, I would probably
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: make a phone call and say, there's somebody who is
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: extremely inappropriately in my face and in other people's faces.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Can we pick this person up and bring them to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: the hospital and find out what's going on because they're
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: doing them, but when they do them, they're interfering with me. Okay, So, Judy,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: you're absolutely right, Thank goodness, I haven't run into this person,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: but I could probably say with my personality, Judy, that
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I would be angry and aggressive back as well. So
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I just think we need to get these people out
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: of this area and some help.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Well we just got another comment here. Does Judy think
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: an ordinance is going to stop this? No?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not, absolutely not. The people are breaking laws all
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: the time driving and stuff, and there are laws and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: rules out there. So what makes us think that an
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: ordinance is going to fix it?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: The the article is it's really again, it's in the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Times Argus. I think it was posted yesterday. This This
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: is really something that you ought to read here. I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to copy and paste the whole the whole
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: article out of respect to Dave Delkore is the writer
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: of it. You should get online and read it yourself.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: But and our Chief Brad Veil weighs in on it.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: And there's going to be a ninety minute form on
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: January thirteenth to start at five pm about this on
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: the second floor meeting room at Alumni Hall up at
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: the Bury Auditorium to speak with community members. An opportunity
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: for people to express their concerns and get some feedback.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of you're reading it while you're reading
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: it as Yeah, I'm paraphrasing here.
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  Speaker 2: If we're going to put an ordinance out there that's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: going to be effective, then we need to have individuals
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: out there that are enforcing those ordinance because a lot
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: of times some of the things that happened happen after
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: hours at nighttime, late at night, things like that we need.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: We can't. You can't just make up an ordinance or
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: a rule or a law and not enforce it, Okay,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: And it's a shame that we were at that point.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: But when we're running into situations like people going to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: a food store to shop with their family and getting
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: bombarded with people that aren't right, and that people that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: are are a menace to us individually, sure or harmful
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: getting in our face or whatever, we need to have
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: enforcement for that, and the enforcement has to be strong
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: and swift so that people know that this is not
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: just an ordinance, but it's being enforced.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Our manager, Nicholas Strelli Castro also says that she fail
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: is making some headway filling vacancies on the department. At
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: least two recruits are scheduled to attend the Vermont Police
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Academy starting next month, and the trainings will run through
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the end of May.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Why don't we join the police academy, you know, dear Lord,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Why don't we? And then we can have a car,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: will go out as partners, and we'll enforce it. JD
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: and G in a police car enforcing the ordinance. Can
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I wear my leather pants? You better not have leather
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: pants in my community. You'd be wearing just a leather
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: vest with no shirt and they would call you a bear,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: all right, I'm just saying you brought it up. You
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: said Glenn didn't he ask if he could wear leather
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: pants and I told him no, and he's still on
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: the topic. Come on, you get a lot of a
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: lot of people would be like, oh.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Daddy, listen, forget about Glenn. I love your shirt.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's a brend new and it's got a stitching
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: look that matches the stitching pants.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Come on, I'm gonna ask you a serious question here.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: One of these Thursdays when you come back, can I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: wear that shirt?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: You may well, you would never fit in it. This
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: is a size small.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: What are you saying.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: I'm saying your arm might fit in. You're saying them overweight. No,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: I just said are overweight. No, I'm just saying you're
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: big boned and stocky.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're welcome big boned. All right, gotta go with something.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Let's go. You know. You know what, if you're comfortable
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: in your skin, then then you do you. This is
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: what people don't understand when I tell them when they say, yeah,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: I don't like it, do you? You don't have to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: like my shirt? Gled Okay, I don't have a beard,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: you do I mean, Does that mean I'm gonna say something? No,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: who cares?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Mark Miller says, car fifty four. Where are you?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to be one Atom thirteen, not one
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: AEM twelve, because we got to see the man's one
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Adam thirteen. See the man on Main Street a barry
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: panhandling himself.
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  Speaker 1: First Strong
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  Speaker 2: Stro