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POTB 542: Big Ten media day recap and an IU-Oregon preview with Josh Pos · Podcast on the Brink

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a new episode of Podcast on the Brink. Friday,
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Speaker 1: October tenth. The big weekend for Indiana football coming up.
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Speaker 1: Hoosiers going to take on number three Oregon out in
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Speaker 1: Eugene in a matchup that will be televised by CBS
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Speaker 1: three point thirty Saturday afternoon. All eyes not just in
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Speaker 1: Bloomington and Eugene, allies nationally and college football and that
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Speaker 1: matchup College Game Day. We'll be there for that matchup.
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that game later in today's episode.
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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about Big Ten Media Day,
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Speaker 1: which took place in Rosemont, Illinois yesterday with Josh Posea
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Speaker 1: inside the hall. Who was there before we get to Josh.
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Speaker 1: Josh joining us from the suburbs of Chicago for the
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Speaker 1: first time, I think from the Continental fifty. Your other
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Speaker 1: two appearances on podcasts on the Brink where from San Juan,
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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. How's it being back in Chicago? And I
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Speaker 1: was big to media Day yesterday?
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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, thanks for having me today.
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Speaker 3: It's much colder here in Chicago than it was in
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Speaker 3: San Juan, no palm trees in sight, just leaves changing
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Speaker 3: and rainy weather in the forecast. But you can't come
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Speaker 3: playing Big ten Media Day not Chicago. It was in Rosemont.
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Speaker 3: I like to point that out towards the airport. But
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Speaker 3: it was a underwhelming time had by all compared to
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Speaker 3: Football Media Day. I wasn't there, but I've heard so
2:14
Speaker 3: much about it. It was in First of all, it
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Speaker 3: was in Vegas, not in a convention center in the
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Speaker 3: Chicago suburbs. But not a lot going on with Indiana specifically.
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Speaker 3: We've gotten to see the team twice in practice. We
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Speaker 3: haven't seen an exhibition game yet. Actually we have, we
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Speaker 3: saw Puerto Rico, so we know a lot more about
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Speaker 3: the team than we did when I went last year,
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Speaker 3: so it was a lot more questions being asked. I
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Speaker 3: think Devrees went about twenty twenty five minutes. Players about
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Speaker 3: the same, so we didn't even get the full time.
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Speaker 3: People were really struggling to just get questions out because
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Speaker 3: it became the same old thing. We didn't really hear
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Speaker 3: much new from Darren DeVries. Tucker to Vrees, and Lamar
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Speaker 3: Wilkerson provided some a little bit deeper thoughts into what
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Speaker 3: they see out of certain guys, but all in all,
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Speaker 3: it was a decent time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like Big ten Media Day has changed
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Speaker 1: quite a bit over the years. You know, I went
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Speaker 1: to several media days. I even went to when they
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Speaker 1: had it in DC one year. That's kind of how
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Speaker 1: it used to be, like a mandatory thing to attend.
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Speaker 1: But FYE basketball, they've had the institutional media Day now
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Speaker 1: several years, and we had an opportunity last week last
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Speaker 1: Tuesday to talk to pretty much every healthy available player.
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Speaker 1: We act ualanced to talk to Darren Debrees, so makes
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Speaker 1: it a little bit less necessary to make the trip. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: y're from Chicago, it made sense for you just to
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Speaker 1: head over there. And attend for the day and ask
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Speaker 1: some questions and get some video and write some stories
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Speaker 1: for us. But I'm curious some of these West Coast
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Speaker 1: schools that are now part of the Big ten year
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Speaker 1: two for them Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA. I can't imagine
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Speaker 1: that many websites or newspapers are spending the money to
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Speaker 1: send their reporters to get forty five minutes of time
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Speaker 1: in front of these coaches and players in Chicago. I'm
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Speaker 1: not right about that assumption. Was it pretty lightly attended
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Speaker 1: from the West Coast media contingent?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.
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Speaker 3: There was times where I think I looked over and
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Speaker 3: Eric Musselman was just sitting on his phone for about
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Speaker 3: ten minutes he was sitting at the podium. People would
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Speaker 3: come up to him sporadically. At one point I look
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Speaker 3: over at Dana Altman and there's four EYEU media members
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Speaker 3: talking to him for about ten minutes about Darren de
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Speaker 3: Brees and their relationship from Creighton. So it's really funny
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Speaker 3: how he spent probably half of his time at the
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Speaker 3: podium talking about Indiana and Darren Fries instead of his team.
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Speaker 3: And I'm assuming that Danny Sprinkle, Mick cron and Eric
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Speaker 3: Musselman did the same thing. They didn't really have guys
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Speaker 3: to talk about it with. They didn't have to talk
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Speaker 3: about their guys because quite frankly, no Indiana reporters going
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Speaker 3: to ask about the UCLA Brewins starting five this year
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Speaker 3: as they enter exit play. So it was kind of
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Speaker 3: sad to see those coaches and players. The players also
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Speaker 3: had to leave town, and they did get to have
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Speaker 3: some fun things they The Big Ten does a good
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Speaker 3: job with players, giving them the room to hang out
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Speaker 3: with one another and all those activities that they have
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Speaker 3: to do. But they also spent thirty minutes sitting on
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Speaker 3: their phones waiting for people to ask questions. So it
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Speaker 3: was a weird, weird situation in a just a oversized
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Speaker 3: room for a small event.
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Speaker 1: So I'm curious just from the standpoint of what you
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Speaker 1: learned from an IEU perspective, you know, given the context
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Speaker 1: that we've had a couple open practices, you've been to
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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico to watch the three exhibition games, we've had
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Speaker 1: media Day, we had a scrimmage in Assembly Hall a
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Speaker 1: week ago today. Was there anything you learned, knew or
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Speaker 1: took away from what Darren debrees or Lamar Wilkerson or
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Speaker 1: Tucker Debris said on Thursday.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a couple things that I wrote about
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Speaker 3: it yesterday, but I think what I mainly took away
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Speaker 3: is that Indiana is going to play two bigs with
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Speaker 3: Red Bailey and Sam Alexis. That was actually a lot
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Speaker 3: of talk about the two of them and how they
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Speaker 3: can compliment one another. We saw in Puerto Rico they
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Speaker 3: had to because of so much foul trouble. Don't get
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Speaker 3: me started about the officiating in Puerto Rico. They had
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Speaker 3: to go to that too big lineup and it worked,
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Speaker 3: not only because they're athletic guys, but they're two different
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Speaker 3: guys that can compliment Reed Bailey, he's someone that can
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Speaker 3: be a stretch five and forces force defenses to play
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Speaker 3: him out on the perimeter. And Sam Alexis, like Darren
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Speaker 3: Ries said yesterday, he said, he's a back to the
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Speaker 3: basket type of guy. He's not going to stretch it
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Speaker 3: out all that often. But they're going to play too big.
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Speaker 3: But it's different than last year because these are two
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Speaker 3: athletic bigs. His six eight and six' ten both can
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Speaker 3: move fairly. Well bailey more Than alexis given his ability
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Speaker 3: to shoot the. Ball but that's WHAT i took away
7:01
Speaker 3: AND i really. Enjoyed another thing Is Tucker devrees is.
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Speaker 3: Healthy he's been cleared all throughout the, summer but this
7:08
Speaker 3: is his first summer since twenty twenty two that he's
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Speaker 3: actually been able to participate in the, lifts the, workouts
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Speaker 3: and he said he's as good as you can be
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Speaker 3: through six weeks of preseason. Training but it's good to
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Speaker 3: see that he's healthy off of a pair of shoulder,
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Speaker 3: surgeries a bunch of things he's dinged. Up Lamar wilkerson
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Speaker 3: called them, old but it's really good to see That
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Speaker 3: indiana's best shooter most likely this, year outside Of Lamar,
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Speaker 3: wilkerson is healthy come exhibition.
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Speaker 1: PLAY i think one of the biggest question MARKS i
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Speaker 1: have right now With indiana is just from a health,
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Speaker 1: perspective given what we witnessed last week at The cream
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Speaker 1: And crimson scrimmage that had to be cut short After
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Speaker 1: Josiah miles had a cramp and they basically ran out of.
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Speaker 1: Players obviously they could have thrown in some Walk ons
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Speaker 1: or other, guys but you get to a point in
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Speaker 1: a scrimmage where it's all, right you're in the fourth.
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Speaker 1: Quarter it was already shortened a little bit based on
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Speaker 1: just a number of players. Available when you see somebody
8:12
Speaker 1: go down AND i, think out of abundance of, caution
8:14
Speaker 1: you just end. It but details have been pretty scarce
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Speaker 1: in terms of who's actually like what the injuries are
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Speaker 1: for each, guy WHICH i. UNDERSTAND i, mean there's no
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Speaker 1: obligation FOR iu to tell us specific on, media but all,
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Speaker 1: right the media on. Injuries BUT i Know Jason drake
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Speaker 1: was dealing with the tow injury over the summer forced
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Speaker 1: him not to go To Puerto. Rico WHEN i saw
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Speaker 1: him at the scrimmage and the open, practice he was
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Speaker 1: actually doing a lot of the stretching and things in
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Speaker 1: the open practice and walking around pretty. Normally he seemed
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Speaker 1: like he's a little bit further along and coming. Back
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Speaker 1: Nick dorn sounds like his return to the to full
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Speaker 1: go is pretty. Eminent the two that the details seem
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Speaker 1: a little bit scarce on Our Alexa restitch And Josh.
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Speaker 1: Harris both of those guys were wearing boots last week In,
9:02
Speaker 1: Bloomington So i'm curious When darren De reese was asked
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Speaker 1: about this yesterday was It did he offer anything in
9:07
Speaker 1: addition to what we've what we've heard, previously or was
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Speaker 1: it kind of just we'll wait and. See it sounded
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Speaker 1: to me like from reading a little bit of the
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Speaker 1: comments that it could be a situation Where indiana is
9:17
Speaker 1: maybe going to start the season with a couple of
9:19
Speaker 1: these guys.
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Speaker 3: Sideline, yeah not only are they going to start the,
9:21
Speaker 3: season but he also said that some of these guys
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Speaker 3: will be closer To december than the start of the,
9:27
Speaker 3: season So indiana could be without and he said two
9:30
Speaker 3: or three that was that was the quote that he
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Speaker 3: said probably won't be available right at the beginning of the.
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Speaker 3: Season which does he consider the beginning of the season
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Speaker 3: next week or does he consider the beginning of the season.
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Speaker 2: The, yeah so that was.
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Speaker 3: Unclear But Nick, dorn like you, said he's very, close
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Speaker 3: but it's one of those things where he can't just
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Speaker 3: rush into gameplay right. Away his body will not take
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Speaker 3: kindly to. That so they are going to slowly but
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Speaker 3: surely bring them back in and get them physically ready for.
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Speaker 2: Basketball so it's.
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Speaker 3: Unclear if he will be ready to go for the
10:13
Speaker 3: opener in a few. Weeks BUT i think that it
10:17
Speaker 3: is a cause for, concern right now that two or
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Speaker 3: three guys might not come back Till.
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Speaker 1: December, yeah especially with just a couple of key. Positions
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Speaker 1: obviously you talked About bailey And alexis playing. TOGETHER i
10:28
Speaker 1: think that's probably a little more unlikely If Josh harris
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Speaker 1: is out and the, FRESHMAN i don't want to butcher his,
10:39
Speaker 1: name but the young Freshman andre From. Bosnia he was a.
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Speaker 1: Player you know that we watched play a little bit
10:48
Speaker 1: in the open, practice in the, scrimmage and you, KNOW
10:51
Speaker 1: i wrote that he's a probably a year away from
10:55
Speaker 1: making meaningful contribution on the. Court so you look at
10:58
Speaker 1: a front court with With bailey And, alexis those are
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Speaker 1: really your two guys that Can alexis really is the
11:05
Speaker 1: only rim. Protection but If Josh harris is, out he
11:08
Speaker 1: was kind of looked at as being a guy that
11:09
Speaker 1: could maybe give you some spot minutes at the four
11:12
Speaker 1: of the. Five although he's a little bit. Undersized his
11:15
Speaker 1: game is more built toward the interior and then the guard. Situation,
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Speaker 1: obviously they've got a little bit more depth there With
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Speaker 1: Connor enright Tating, Connorway Lamar, Wilkerson BUT i think they
11:26
Speaker 1: need Either restitch Or Jason drake to be, available just
11:29
Speaker 1: to give them a little bit more guard depth on this.
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Speaker 3: Roster, yeah guard depth seems to be thin right, now
11:36
Speaker 3: like you, said BUT i think what they want to
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Speaker 3: see is having that depth so they can play a
11:44
Speaker 3: tougher brand of. Defense we kind of touched on defense
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Speaker 3: yesterday With Darren devrees and he said he doesn't want
11:52
Speaker 3: to pull back guys and he wants to have. Depth
11:55
Speaker 3: he said That Connor nray is a guy that he
11:58
Speaker 3: probably has to pull back from having seven foot, files
12:00
Speaker 3: but that's what makes him.
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Speaker 2: Great but keeping his.
12:04
Speaker 3: Guys on the floor and having the depth so they
12:07
Speaker 3: don't get in that foul trouble like we saw in
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Speaker 3: those three games In Puerto rico or the two. Games
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Speaker 3: Really i'll take away that first. Game you gotta have
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Speaker 3: guard depth because that's what Won indiana those games And
12:22
Speaker 3: i'm assuming will win them games later on the.
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Speaker 1: Season how concerning do you think is the lack of depth?
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Speaker 1: Though as you enter That marquette game that means something
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Speaker 1: obviously On november, ninth and then looking ahead to The
12:35
Speaker 1: Big ten schedule starting in Early, december and then you've
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Speaker 1: got The Kansas state game obviously to close Out november
12:42
Speaker 1: and you've got The louisland And kentucky. Games do you
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Speaker 1: think it's maybe a little bit overblown the lack of
12:49
Speaker 1: depth because it's guys that are MAYBE i don't want
12:51
Speaker 1: to say friend, rotation but a little lower in the depth,
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Speaker 1: chart or do you think it's something that could be
12:57
Speaker 1: a factor when you get into some of these bigger,
12:59
Speaker 1: games you have less bodies to go. AROUND i think
13:03
Speaker 1: based on the way you talk about them wanting to,
13:05
Speaker 1: play it seems like a little bit less depths could
13:09
Speaker 1: be an issue as the games in the competition stiffen
13:14
Speaker 1: up later in the month Of november and Into.
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Speaker 3: December, yeah they want to play a fast brand of,
13:19
Speaker 3: basketball and if you can't handle that fast, transition always
13:25
Speaker 3: run shoot early in the shot. Clock like, physically you're
13:28
Speaker 3: going to have to be deep in, roster AND i
13:33
Speaker 3: don't think it's as big of an. Issue the only
13:35
Speaker 3: ISSUE i see is that the starting five isn't a
13:41
Speaker 3: national championship right, now a national championship starting, five and
13:46
Speaker 3: so there's more parody on the roster so that it's
13:48
Speaker 3: not much of a drop. Off so you need to
13:50
Speaker 3: have guys off the bench who are going to keep
13:53
Speaker 3: the same, intensity keep the same level of, play and
13:56
Speaker 3: some of the guys are fringe that we talked, about
13:59
Speaker 3: but bringing in that six seventh eighth. Man you don't
14:02
Speaker 3: need to go, ten, eleven twelve deep that early in
14:06
Speaker 3: the season those big, games but you got to have
14:08
Speaker 3: some depth if you're going to want to play a
14:10
Speaker 3: fast style basketball and beat a team Like, Marquette, Kentucky
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Speaker 3: louisville and so.
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Speaker 1: On, YEAH i think it's very important That dorn And
14:17
Speaker 1: miles are available to play BECAUSE i see them as
14:19
Speaker 1: key contributors off the. Bench Trent, SISLELY i, think is
14:22
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to get more minutes than maybe
14:25
Speaker 1: we expected back in the, spring just based on what
14:28
Speaker 1: we've seen out of him In Puerto rico and just
14:30
Speaker 1: play this, spring and then obviously trying to think who
14:35
Speaker 1: the other one. Is it'll be Likely Sam alexis coming
14:38
Speaker 1: off the bench With Red bailey starting out to. Five
14:40
Speaker 1: as you, said we could see them at times playing.
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Speaker 1: Together but ALSO i think just from a depth, perspective
14:46
Speaker 1: it would make more sense to start one and then
14:49
Speaker 1: kind of rotate minutes with those. Guys want to shift
14:51
Speaker 1: gears obviously to football because there's a huge game On
14:55
Speaker 1: saturday out In. Eugene is this you, know there were
15:00
Speaker 1: some big games last year and you covered the football
15:03
Speaker 1: program last. Year there was obviously The Ohio state. Game
15:07
Speaker 1: there was the college football playoff game Against Notre. Dame
15:10
Speaker 1: is this as big of a Game friday football that
15:15
Speaker 1: you've seen in terms of regular season since you've been
15:18
Speaker 1: covering the, Team and does it maybe exceed what the
15:22
Speaker 1: what the hype was and what the kind of the
15:26
Speaker 1: just the whole moment of The Ohio state game last.
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Speaker 2: Year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah last, year The Ohio state, game it was still Little.
15:33
Speaker 3: Indiana it kind of felt like twenty twenty Where indiana
15:36
Speaker 3: came in as like the fifth ranked team in the
15:38
Speaker 3: country at the time or whatever they, were and they
15:41
Speaker 3: didn't seem like a true. Contender indiana was more of
15:44
Speaker 3: a contender last year than that twenty twenty, season but
15:47
Speaker 3: it still felt, like all, right indian is probably not
15:51
Speaker 3: going to get over this. Hurdle it's can they keep
15:53
Speaker 3: it close in this game Against Ohio. State this, year
15:57
Speaker 3: after the schilaking Of, ILLINOIS i think The illinois game
16:00
Speaker 3: was more anticipated than this, one just because it was a.
16:04
Speaker 2: Home game In.
16:05
Speaker 3: Indiana, illinois although some say not a rivalry might be a.
16:09
Speaker 2: Rivalry there's some. Animosity i'll talk all.
16:12
Speaker 3: Week indiana does what they, do but this week has
16:16
Speaker 3: been scheduled or circled On Mikyle kamara's just on the.
16:22
Speaker 3: Schedule he circled it immediately said this is our opportunity to,
16:26
Speaker 3: win and he's excited about this. Opportunity indiana forty six
16:31
Speaker 3: tries against the top five opponent on the, road which
16:33
Speaker 3: is incredible to.
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Speaker 1: Me no.
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Speaker 3: Wins this is the, opportunity And oregon is a really
16:40
Speaker 3: good football, team but this is the opportunity For indiana
16:43
Speaker 3: to finally get OVER i don't want to say the.
16:45
Speaker 1: Humph you can say the, hump the.
16:48
Speaker 3: Hump i'll say the hump because they've gotten over that proverbial.
16:53
Speaker 2: Pump multi.
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Speaker 1: YEAH i was listening To tucker To Breeze's big btn
16:58
Speaker 1: set yesterday With Rafael davis And Andy, katz and he
17:02
Speaker 1: dropped over the. Hump So i'm sure he doesn't know
17:04
Speaker 1: the backstory of, that but it's gonna BE i think
17:08
Speaker 1: it's going to be a running joke for all of
17:10
Speaker 1: us when we hear an over the. Humph from now
17:14
Speaker 1: back to, football, though how how good Is oregon because
17:18
Speaker 1: they went on the road and obviously Played Penn. State
17:22
Speaker 1: they controlled that game for most of. It obviously it
17:24
Speaker 1: was closer towards the. END i believe it went to.
17:26
Speaker 1: Overtime but then we See Penn state go TO ucla and,
17:31
Speaker 1: Lose so then everyone's wondering how Good Penn state is. Actually,
17:35
Speaker 1: oregon we know they were in the playoff last. Year
17:37
Speaker 1: we know they have a ton of, talent we know
17:39
Speaker 1: they're well. Coached Dan lanning one of the, Best Kurt
17:41
Speaker 1: signetti said, it one of the best young, coaches rising
17:44
Speaker 1: stars in college. Football expected to be a playoff team
17:48
Speaker 1: again this. Year but how good Is oregon and how
17:52
Speaker 1: big of a challenge is this going to be For
17:54
Speaker 1: indiana There from based on what you wrote this morning
17:57
Speaker 1: in your, preview it sounds like you believe that they're
17:59
Speaker 1: going to have to play their absolute best to go
18:02
Speaker 1: in and win this.
18:02
Speaker 2: Game they might have to play better than.
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Speaker 3: BEST i Think oregon is a really good football. Team
18:09
Speaker 3: they that win At Penn. State ignore THAT ucla, game
18:15
Speaker 3: because winning on the road during a white, out going
18:19
Speaker 3: across the country Against Penn, state who was at the
18:22
Speaker 3: time a top five, team that is no doubt a fantastic,
18:27
Speaker 3: win AND i don't care what anybody. SAYS i know
18:30
Speaker 3: the line moved from for this week's game from like
18:32
Speaker 3: twelve and a half TO i think it's down to
18:34
Speaker 3: seven now because Of Penn state's. Loss they Minimize oregon's
18:41
Speaker 3: victory over. Them But Dan lanning has built something special
18:45
Speaker 3: there In, eugene And indiana is going to have to
18:48
Speaker 3: play perfect Because dante more is arguably better Than Fernando
18:54
Speaker 3: mendoza and it's his first year starting At. Oregon he
18:57
Speaker 3: was AT, ucla didn't play much last, year but they're
19:00
Speaker 3: one hundred percent in the red zone this.
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Speaker 2: Year that's gonna be hard to.
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Speaker 3: Beat and they're a, tough physical, team and tough is
19:08
Speaker 3: an understatement About Austin. Stadium twenty two to one Is
19:11
Speaker 3: dan landing, there AND i think back to back undefeated.
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Speaker 3: Seasons So indiana is going to have to play perfect Against.
19:20
Speaker 3: Oregon you wrote earlier in the week something about just
19:24
Speaker 3: the big moments That indiana kind of experienced last year
19:29
Speaker 3: and maybe how that can translate to better different outcomes this.
19:33
Speaker 1: YEAR i don't know what they were going to say
19:37
Speaker 1: differently about that in terms, of you, know obviously they
19:40
Speaker 1: want to learn from those moments and they believe that
19:42
Speaker 1: they can go in this game and. Win but is
19:44
Speaker 1: there any way that you can see That indiana's better
19:47
Speaker 1: equipped to go into a situation like this and they
19:49
Speaker 1: were last year Against Ohio state and There dame because
19:53
Speaker 1: watching those, games Obviously i'm not covering the team on
19:55
Speaker 1: a day to day. Basis last, SEASON i was even
19:57
Speaker 1: less involved BECAUSE i was just watching from home and
20:02
Speaker 1: had nobody covering the. Team but they really looked overwhelmed
20:06
Speaker 1: in those moments last, year and they LOOKED i don't
20:09
Speaker 1: want to say, unprepared because those are really good football.
20:11
Speaker 1: Teams they played for the national, championship SO i think
20:13
Speaker 1: that's kind of maybe an unfair way to characterize, it
20:18
Speaker 1: but they didn't look ready for the. MOMENT i think
20:19
Speaker 1: it is the best way to. Say is there anything
20:21
Speaker 1: you can point to with this year's team to make
20:24
Speaker 1: you think going in that they're going to be better
20:27
Speaker 1: prepared for what's? Ahead because obviously they played really well Against.
20:31
Speaker 1: Illinois they survived Against, iowa and don't get me, wrong
20:35
Speaker 1: a very tough place to. Play a lot of ranked
20:38
Speaker 1: teams go there and. Lose that was an impressive, win
20:40
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a dominant, win AND i think they're
20:43
Speaker 1: going to have to take the level play up a
20:44
Speaker 1: significant notch from what they played At iowa to win An.
20:47
Speaker 1: Oregon But i'm just curious if you can point to
20:50
Speaker 1: anything or think of any reason why the outcome may be.
20:53
Speaker 1: Different and who. Knows they could go there and play
20:55
Speaker 1: really well and still come up. Short BUT i think
20:57
Speaker 1: that would mean a lot more than going and losing
21:00
Speaker 1: by two or three.
21:01
Speaker 3: Touchdowns, yeah last year they played, scared and even Against,
21:06
Speaker 3: Iowa Mike, shanahan the offensive, coordinator called plays scared and
21:13
Speaker 3: we've seen that in all three big environments that he's
21:15
Speaker 3: played loud.
21:15
Speaker 2: Crowd but the.
21:17
Speaker 3: One Thing i'll go back, to And i've been going
21:19
Speaker 3: back to with other people in the last two, weeks
21:22
Speaker 3: is they found a way to win At, iowa just
21:27
Speaker 3: like it In obviously a lot more fans At Penn
21:30
Speaker 3: state during a white, out but teams go to die
21:34
Speaker 3: In Kinnick, stadium And indiana found a way they they
21:38
Speaker 3: made they Played iowa's game and beat. Them they were
21:42
Speaker 3: subject To Kirk farren's football and a sister that went
21:46
Speaker 3: To iowa is the worst thing to ever watch in your,
21:48
Speaker 3: life and it was the worst thing to. Watch But
21:51
Speaker 3: indiana found a way to. Win teams in the past
21:54
Speaker 3: don't do. THAT i don't think last year's team does.
21:56
Speaker 3: That Michigan state on the road last year wasn't much
21:59
Speaker 3: of a road, game or it wasn't much of a
22:01
Speaker 3: game Because Michigan state wasn't very.
22:03
Speaker 2: GOOD ucla obviously was a.
22:05
Speaker 3: Just a horrible.
22:08
Speaker 2: Program at that.
22:09
Speaker 3: Time and THEN i believe the other one Was northwestern
22:12
Speaker 3: was basically a home game and they didn't even play that.
22:14
Speaker 3: Well going on the road and having the experience with
22:17
Speaker 3: this specific team and winning in a tough environment Like
22:21
Speaker 3: iowa gives me reason That indiana can play. WELL i
22:24
Speaker 3: don't necessarily say that they win because that they played
22:27
Speaker 3: good At iowa and they showed me, that BUT i
22:30
Speaker 3: think they can play much. Better but that, said the
22:35
Speaker 3: offensive playbook needs to be opened. UP i seriously would
22:39
Speaker 3: love to see a first play shot play From Fernando,
22:42
Speaker 3: mendoza whether it be To Elijah surad Or Omar Cooper.
22:46
Speaker 3: Junior it has to be opened up early and allow
22:49
Speaker 3: the creativity to flow and Trust Fernando.
22:52
Speaker 1: Mendoza do you think there's any chance that they've been
22:56
Speaker 1: holding back at all for a moment like, this or
22:58
Speaker 1: do you think there was obviously the last two weeks
23:01
Speaker 1: there's really wasn't last, week but the two games prior
23:05
Speaker 1: there was really no reason. To i'm just kind of
23:08
Speaker 1: curious why you think maybe the play calling has BEEN
23:11
Speaker 1: i don't know enough about, it but you're covering this
23:13
Speaker 1: more on a day day. Basis do you think there's
23:15
Speaker 1: any chance that there's gonna be some new wrinkles that
23:18
Speaker 1: we see On saturday that we haven't seen.
23:19
Speaker 3: Before, YEAH i think That indiana will be more. Prepared
23:23
Speaker 3: i've written about it a couple of times. Now the
23:26
Speaker 3: crowd noise that they practice two and a half hours
23:28
Speaker 3: with every single day leading up to these. GAMES i
23:31
Speaker 3: think they've been doing it for the past two. Weeks,
23:33
Speaker 3: uh just trying to get acclimated with the. NOISE i
23:37
Speaker 3: think with that play calling is a lot Of indiana.
23:40
Speaker 3: Stuff the receivers are, options so they have an option
23:43
Speaker 3: to go on a fly route or they go on
23:45
Speaker 3: an en, route and they have to make the. Decision
23:49
Speaker 3: they want to. Simplify that's what they've been. Doing they've
23:52
Speaker 3: been simplifying their. PLAYBOOK i, Mean iowa stacked nine in the,
23:56
Speaker 3: box And indiana still ran right into the right into
23:59
Speaker 3: the teeth of defense on fourth and one multiple times
24:02
Speaker 3: in that. Game so there's no check audibles With Kurt,
24:06
Speaker 3: signetti like you said On.
24:08
Speaker 2: Monday SO.
24:11
Speaker 3: I think that they might have been holding back punches
24:15
Speaker 3: and trying to show thing or trying not to show
24:18
Speaker 3: their hand too. Much but at some point you got
24:20
Speaker 3: to go to a place Like iowa and beat the
24:23
Speaker 3: crap out of them just to show your.
24:25
Speaker 2: Dominance So.
24:29
Speaker 3: I'd like to believe that they were holding something back
24:32
Speaker 3: for this.
24:32
Speaker 1: Game what's the key in terms of winning this, game
24:36
Speaker 1: in terms of being able to score enough points is
24:38
Speaker 1: a balanced. OFFENSE i Know oregon's bigger on the lines
24:43
Speaker 1: than In. Indiana is do you feel like they're gonna
24:45
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball? Effectively and Is mendoza
24:49
Speaker 1: going to get the time to be able to pick
24:52
Speaker 1: the defense apart with the passing, Game so they've got
24:54
Speaker 1: plenty of. Receivers if the guys can get, open they
24:56
Speaker 1: can obviously move the, ball but he's got to have
24:59
Speaker 1: time to be able to make those. THROWS i think
25:01
Speaker 1: that's ANOTHER i think something that has to be on
25:04
Speaker 1: the mind Of indiana going into the, game being able
25:06
Speaker 1: to get protection on him because he's not really taking
25:10
Speaker 1: a ton of hits this year. EITHER i mean that
25:12
Speaker 1: that hit THAT i think we took in The iowa
25:14
Speaker 1: game where he was kind of running towards the sideline
25:16
Speaker 1: was kind of a scary. Play you don't want your
25:17
Speaker 1: quarterback in that situation very. Often but with a team Like,
25:21
Speaker 1: oregon their, physicality the amount of just four and five
25:23
Speaker 1: star guys that they have on this, roster you worry
25:26
Speaker 1: about being able to protect the quarterback, enough and you
25:28
Speaker 1: also worry about being able to run the ball against you,
25:32
Speaker 1: know you, know a physical defense that it's quite, frankly
25:35
Speaker 1: just bigger Than indiana and maybe more athletic and.
25:38
Speaker 3: Stronger, YEAH i think the numbers that came OUT i,
25:42
Speaker 3: saw like the weight stuff that doesn't matter. REALLY i
25:46
Speaker 3: Think Pac coogan said it On, tuesday said Low, man
25:48
Speaker 3: wins have learned that since third, Grade indiana is up
25:52
Speaker 3: there With oregon in. PHYSICALITY i think people are over
25:58
Speaker 3: over exaggerating the difference between these two programs right, now
26:02
Speaker 3: maybe three years ago out of said, yes even two years,
26:05
Speaker 3: Ago i'd agreed with you and Said oregon's much, Bigger
26:08
Speaker 3: they're much. BETTER i think That indiana has an opportunity
26:12
Speaker 3: to Protect Fernando mendoza and then with a running back
26:14
Speaker 3: Like Roman, hemby he doesn't need much space and when
26:18
Speaker 3: he gets the yards after contact that he gets will
26:21
Speaker 3: push the push the pile, forward so they'll set the run.
26:25
Speaker 3: There but the passing game needs to set up that.
26:27
Speaker 3: Run they need to Keep oregon. Honest but as for,
26:31
Speaker 3: Defensively indiana gets D'Angelo pond's back and that is that
26:35
Speaker 3: is gigantic because in The iowa, game they played a
26:38
Speaker 3: bunch of soft zone coverage they're trying to uh. GET
26:44
Speaker 3: i think it Was Rylan gandhy in his position just
26:46
Speaker 3: more acclimated and didn't want to put him in too
26:49
Speaker 3: much stress in man. Coverage so you saw a lot
26:52
Speaker 3: of dinks and doinks And Mark ronowski getting those first
26:55
Speaker 3: downs on third down from those zone coverages in the
26:58
Speaker 3: middle of the.
26:58
Speaker 2: FIELD i.
26:59
Speaker 3: THINK i Think indiana needs to get pressure On Dante.
27:02
Speaker 3: Moore he's taken one sack this. YEAR i think that's
27:05
Speaker 3: the biggest. Thing Not indiana's offensive, line It's indiana's defensive
27:08
Speaker 3: line number one and havoc. Rate they need to get
27:10
Speaker 3: To Dante moore because if he has, time he's gonna
27:13
Speaker 3: find his. Weapons and they are a big play team
27:15
Speaker 3: In indiana has has given up some big plays this.
27:18
Speaker 1: Year so if you had to give me one or
27:20
Speaker 1: two keys to watch when you sit down and watch
27:23
Speaker 1: the game this, weekend what would they. Be AND i
27:26
Speaker 1: know you've asked me before if you could put predictions
27:30
Speaker 1: in your stories On inside The. HALL i told you
27:32
Speaker 1: that's not sunce that we. Did but this is a
27:34
Speaker 1: different this is a different. Medium i'm gonna ask you
27:37
Speaker 1: for your prediction for the game as.
27:39
Speaker 2: Well, okay two keys.
27:41
Speaker 3: Won it's a kind of a tired trope In big ten,
27:44
Speaker 3: football But indiana needs to win the. Trenches they need
27:48
Speaker 3: to win up. Front they need to even at least
27:50
Speaker 3: break even in the front to win this, game whether
27:53
Speaker 3: it be offense or. Defense that's number. One AND i
27:56
Speaker 3: think the next key to the game is it has
27:59
Speaker 3: to be the play. Calling you got to open up your.
28:01
Speaker 3: Playbook you can't be, robotic you can't be. Predictable and
28:09
Speaker 3: If Mike shanahan can kind of emerge from the shadows
28:13
Speaker 3: in and finally start calling plays like he does At
28:17
Speaker 3: Memorial stadium At austin this, weekend then it could be
28:20
Speaker 3: a better day For. Indiana that, Said I'M i can't
28:26
Speaker 3: be An indiana homer. Here i'm gonna go Go oregon
28:31
Speaker 3: thirty One indiana.
28:33
Speaker 2: Twenty is that?
28:36
Speaker 1: Enough if, that if it plays out with a score like,
28:39
Speaker 1: that is that enough to Keep indiana in the top
28:42
Speaker 1: what ten or eleven twelve nationally and still in obviously firm.
28:47
Speaker 1: Contention but that that's gonna put a lot of pressure
28:50
Speaker 1: on a win At Penn state if it comes to.
28:52
Speaker 3: That, right, YEAH i think that this is the game
28:56
Speaker 3: that it's gonna be an a eleven point. Game That
29:02
Speaker 3: oregon gets that late field goal to push it to
29:04
Speaker 3: a two score, Game it's not going to Be indiana
29:07
Speaker 3: scores to cut the deficit from nineteen to eleven with
29:10
Speaker 3: a two point. Conversion If kurtzignetti did that in both
29:14
Speaker 3: The Notre dame loss and The Ohio state, loss made
29:16
Speaker 3: it look a little bit better on. Paper But indiana
29:19
Speaker 3: needs to show the lights are on college Game DAY,
29:22
Speaker 3: cbs everybody will be Watching indiana and see they're going
29:27
Speaker 3: to be looking At.
29:28
Speaker 2: Indiana more than they Are. Oregon they know Who oregon.
29:30
Speaker 3: Is they should know Who indiana is already after The illinois,
29:34
Speaker 3: game but they've already Discredited, illinois who has a big
29:37
Speaker 3: of their own With.
29:38
Speaker 2: Ohio state this.
29:39
Speaker 3: Weekend but everybody's going to be looking critically At indiana
29:43
Speaker 3: and they need to show out and keep IT i
29:46
Speaker 3: hate to go back to the old tired trope of
29:49
Speaker 3: keeping it close with a big, team but they do
29:51
Speaker 3: need to keep it. Close and if they can keep
29:53
Speaker 3: it close for long, enough you go in and win
29:55
Speaker 3: the football.
29:55
Speaker 1: Game let's say they go out there and. Win what
29:59
Speaker 1: does that do for their ranking and status? Nationally my.
30:03
Speaker 3: Guess we've talked about the HYPOTHETICALS uh in the past
30:08
Speaker 3: couple of. Weeks we were like an SEC uh fan
30:11
Speaker 3: base in my house back In.
30:13
Speaker 2: BLOOMINGTON.
30:15
Speaker 3: Uh we think that they'd be two or three in
30:18
Speaker 3: the country because that is a hard place to win
30:22
Speaker 3: against a really good football, team and it would prove
30:25
Speaker 3: That indiana is a legit contender for the national. Championship
30:29
Speaker 3: people are still doubting that a win would Put indiana
30:33
Speaker 3: maybe as they as the favorite at that point to
30:36
Speaker 3: win the national.
30:37
Speaker 1: Championship one way or, another it's gonna it's gonna turn.
30:41
Speaker 1: OUT i Think i'm hoping for a competitive. GAME i
30:45
Speaker 1: just want to watch a good football game On saturday,
30:49
Speaker 1: afternoon and that's it's always. Been you know that that
30:52
Speaker 1: three point thirty slot ON cbs for so many years
30:55
Speaker 1: was THAT Sec marquee. Game nice to have the big
30:58
Speaker 1: ten in that. Spot Now i'll be able to turn
31:01
Speaker 1: it on for the national audience and amazing whatever. Happens
31:06
Speaker 1: amazing That indiana's even in this position based on where
31:09
Speaker 1: the program was. Historically Kurt, signety the coaching, staff the,
31:12
Speaker 1: players the, Administration they've done a tremendous job getting the
31:16
Speaker 1: program to this. Point for every remaining home game sold
31:20
Speaker 1: Out Memorial, stadium which is another just sign that football
31:25
Speaker 1: Has we've known since last, season but football has officially
31:29
Speaker 1: arrived In. Bloomington everyone's excited looking forward to a fun
31:34
Speaker 1: game On. Saturday, JOSH i know you're not going to
31:36
Speaker 1: be out, there but you'll be providing coverage over on
31:38
Speaker 1: On inside The. Hall thanks as always for joining us
31:41
Speaker 1: on this week's episode Of podcasts on The.
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