Latest / Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags / Kathy Barnette: LBJ's Confession, Black Pastors Were Paid Off, and the 60-Year Betrayal
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Kathie, what are you thinking? Why would you ever not
- 0:02Speaker 1: take the easy road and just be a Democrat and
- 0:04Speaker 1: hate everybody?
- 0:05Speaker 2: I know, I tell my friends all the time, I
- 0:09Speaker 2: didn't get any benefit from being black, Like I didn't
- 0:13Speaker 2: get any of the privileges, so any of those things.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Right, Well, what is it in our day and age
- 0:20Speaker 1: that we're one hundred and fifty years away from slavery?
- 0:23Speaker 1: Things still aren't perfect, we're still working on it. But
- 0:26Speaker 1: you've got young black people in this country coming up
- 0:29Speaker 1: in places like Chicago and Washington, DC taking over malls
- 0:33Speaker 1: and taking over the Chipotle and you know, doing these
- 0:36Speaker 1: team takeovers. And they're not just takeovers, they're they're rioting,
- 0:40Speaker 1: They're causing mayhem, they're vandalizing. Is this a lack of
- 0:43Speaker 1: parents problem? Is this a perception? Is their reality problem?
- 0:47Speaker 1: What do you think is going on?
- 0:49Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 0:49Speaker 2: You know what, I would choose all of the above, right,
- 0:52Speaker 2: And it's not. And it's much bigger than just a
- 0:55Speaker 2: black people problem or just woke white people problem.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Right.
- 0:59Speaker 2: There is something that has been lost fundamentally with our country.
- 1:03Speaker 3: And it was one of the reasons why.
- 1:06Speaker 2: When I came out and decided to run for office,
- 1:08Speaker 2: I started sharing my own story as a reminder to
- 1:12Speaker 2: the American people of how far our nation has moved right,
- 1:17Speaker 2: Because if anyone had the ability to claim to be
- 1:20Speaker 2: a victim, I think I were qualified for it. I
- 1:23Speaker 2: grew up on a pig farm, grew up in a
- 1:25Speaker 2: home with no insallation, no running water, outhouse, and the
- 1:28Speaker 2: back weld on the side. I grew up in the
- 1:31Speaker 2: home of my great great great grandmother, Rota, who was
- 1:35Speaker 2: a slave. So I had the blood of slaves coursing
- 1:37Speaker 2: through my veins. And yet when I was growing up
- 1:40Speaker 2: in dire poverty, I don't recall anyone ever looking at
- 1:43Speaker 2: me and saying, Kathy, hang it up, you got three strikes.
- 1:47Speaker 3: You're black, you're a woman, you're poor. It's over, kid.
- 1:50Speaker 3: No one ever said that.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Instead, I saw every household in that little community had
- 1:55Speaker 2: a man, had a father in the household. Everyone wore
- 2:00Speaker 2: the mother well always in the home. It was a
- 2:03Speaker 2: community that had the bar of expectation was raised high
- 2:09Speaker 2: for the black kids.
- 2:10Speaker 3: In that community.
- 2:11Speaker 2: It wasn't a bar of low expectation for us. And
- 2:15Speaker 2: I never grew up thinking I.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Was a victim.
- 2:17Speaker 2: No one ever told me I was a victim, and
- 2:20Speaker 2: so I went on to create truly an amazing life
- 2:24Speaker 2: off standing on the shoulders of so many who came
- 2:27Speaker 2: before me. Right, I don't have a victim mentality, and
- 2:30Speaker 2: I certainly didn't pass it down to my children. But
- 2:33Speaker 2: what we're watching today, whether we're looking at black kids
- 2:37Speaker 2: acting wild and uncontrolled, or whether we're looking at these
- 2:42Speaker 2: highly privileged white kids behaving in ways that are or
- 2:47Speaker 2: woke white women who are behaving in ways that are
- 2:50Speaker 2: completely unseemly, there's something deeper that is going on, and
- 2:55Speaker 2: I believe it is a weaponization of the history of
- 2:57Speaker 2: this country. To get a marriage is to really just
- 3:02Speaker 2: it was someone said America cannot be destroyed from without.
- 3:06Speaker 2: It would be if we are destroyed, it would be
- 3:09Speaker 2: from with then, And that is what we're watching and unraveling.
- 3:12Speaker 3: From with then.
- 3:14Speaker 1: It is Kathy Barnett. Go to Kathy with a k.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Barnett b A R N E T T E dot com.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Go get her book. It's called Nothing to Lose, Everything
- 3:21Speaker 1: to gain being black and conservative in America. I want
- 3:24Speaker 1: voices like yours to be amplified. That's why I'm so
- 3:26Speaker 1: happy to have you back in my show. Voices like yours,
- 3:29Speaker 1: and voices like others that have come from nothing. Ben
- 3:31Speaker 1: Carson came from nothing, a poor kid in Detroit became
- 3:34Speaker 1: the world renowned neurosurgeon. You are examples Tiger Woods taking
- 3:39Speaker 1: on golf and doing so well as he did for
- 3:41Speaker 1: getting his recent you know, problems that he's had, but
- 3:44Speaker 1: he was somebody that told the black community you can
- 3:46Speaker 1: go play golf. You're telling people you can be a
- 3:48Speaker 1: talk show host, you can be an author, you can
- 3:50Speaker 1: run for office. Ben Carson, you can be a brain surgeon.
- 3:54Speaker 1: His brother is a rocket scientist. For god sis. We
- 3:56Speaker 1: need more examples like that. But instead, the examples that
- 3:59Speaker 1: we're throwing at at the young black children in this
- 4:02Speaker 1: country are Barack Obama who grew up privileged in Hawaii.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Are Kamala Harris, who grew up privileged in Canada, you
- 4:08Speaker 1: know what I mean. And they're trying to act like
- 4:10Speaker 1: they're from the hood. They're from the streets. I'll never forget.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Barack Obama was in the booth as the White Sox
- 4:15Speaker 1: were playing the baseball game, and the announcers said, what
- 4:18Speaker 1: is your favorite team growing up? He said, the White Sox.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I'm a White Sox guy. And he said, who is
- 4:22Speaker 1: your favorite player growing up? Just an innocuous question, Kathy.
- 4:25Speaker 1: He couldn't name one player because he's lying. So why
- 4:29Speaker 1: is it that the spot like it shined on people
- 4:32Speaker 1: like that that aren't a good example to Black America
- 4:35Speaker 1: and not on people like you who are.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Yeah, because it is a grift. It is a tremendous
- 4:42Speaker 2: amount of power. And that is what the Jesse Jackson's
- 4:46Speaker 2: and Al Sharpton's learned during the sixties. Shelby Steele and
- 4:52Speaker 2: his son Eli Still, they wrote a book that they
- 4:55Speaker 2: coined White Guilt and what they realized in the sixties
- 5:00Speaker 2: because up until you know LBJ and the Great and
- 5:04Speaker 2: the Great Society and the Civil Rights movement or the
- 5:06Speaker 2: Civil Rights Bill, in the early.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty three nineteen sixty.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Four, black people were actually becoming on parity with white people.
- 5:19Speaker 2: And I mean the number of doctors and lawyers, it
- 5:23Speaker 2: was exponential in the black community, the number of businesses
- 5:28Speaker 2: and intact family. There were more black people getting married
- 5:32Speaker 2: than white people who were getting married. The number of
- 5:35Speaker 2: children growing up and a two parent household was seventy
- 5:39Speaker 2: percent or higher. In New York City, for example. Today
- 5:43Speaker 2: is the inverse where eighty percent of black children are
- 5:47Speaker 2: growing up in a single parent household. So we were
- 5:50Speaker 2: actually becoming on parody with white people.
- 5:53Speaker 3: And then you had you know.
- 5:55Speaker 2: LBJ, the Great White Society, Civil Rights Movement, Education Board,
- 6:00Speaker 2: and what they realized, the black grifters like Al Sharpton
- 6:04Speaker 2: and others, they realized this thing called white guilt. You
- 6:08Speaker 2: had white people who felt some kind of way about
- 6:12Speaker 2: how black people, you know, the disparities between black people
- 6:15Speaker 2: and white people, with Jim Crow and all of that,
- 6:18Speaker 2: and they realize, oh, we can we can grift off
- 6:22Speaker 2: of this, we can take advantage of this, and we
- 6:25Speaker 2: can sell access to these white white people, many of
- 6:29Speaker 2: them into the black community Just pay me nineteen ninety nine.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Then you had on the other side.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Of that coin of white guilt, Shelby Steele and his
- 6:38Speaker 2: son Eli still talk about, is white people who wanted
- 6:41Speaker 2: at that time, white liberals, who white democrats who wanted
- 6:45Speaker 2: to take advantage and get access to the Black community.
- 6:49Speaker 2: So you had this symbiotic relationship of those who were
- 6:53Speaker 2: the spokespeople for a black community selling access to the
- 6:57Speaker 2: black community and selling a lot of the narratives that
- 7:01Speaker 2: have kept black people on what many of us call
- 7:03Speaker 2: the Democrat plantation for seventy plus years. The good thing
- 7:07Speaker 2: about it is that you have a number of black people.
- 7:10Speaker 3: Now.
- 7:10Speaker 2: I've done many shows with black men on the streets
- 7:13Speaker 2: of Philadelphia who are beginning to wake up to this
- 7:17Speaker 2: narrative that they've been living according to for the past
- 7:20Speaker 2: seventy years, that if you're black, you must vote Democrat,
- 7:24Speaker 2: otherwise you're not black.
- 7:26Speaker 3: They're waking up to it now.
- 7:27Speaker 2: They're not waking up to the narrative and becoming a
- 7:30Speaker 2: Republicist necessarily. But the opportunity in this disruption is that
- 7:35Speaker 2: for the first time in my lifetime, black people are
- 7:38Speaker 2: questioning this narrative that if you're black, you must vote Democrat.
- 7:43Speaker 2: And I think that is the opportunity for us.
- 7:46Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Biden literally said that to Charlemage or somebody.
- 7:49Speaker 1: He said, if you don't know who to vote for,
- 7:51Speaker 1: you ain't black. So when you do something like that,
- 7:54Speaker 1: when we go back and unraveling what you just said,
- 7:56Speaker 1: was very very intelligent, but let's deep dive it a
- 7:58Speaker 1: little bit. LBJ was one of the biggest races we've
- 8:01Speaker 1: ever had in the White House period. End of story.
- 8:03Speaker 1: He didn't do that because he cared about black people.
- 8:05Speaker 1: He did that because he wanted to own the black vote.
- 8:08Speaker 1: And in fact that worked. It worked very well. There
- 8:10Speaker 1: were black economies in black neighborhoods that were better than
- 8:14Speaker 1: a lot of white economies. And like you said, doctors
- 8:16Speaker 1: and lawyers and teachers and those running schools and business owners.
- 8:21Speaker 1: That was flourishing. And what the government did in nineteen
- 8:23Speaker 1: sixty four, by that swife of a pen was say
- 8:27Speaker 1: we're going to give you everything unique because it's unfair
- 8:29Speaker 1: in our society. Suddenly they told black fathers, don't worry
- 8:32Speaker 1: about being in the house. We'll take care of the kids.
- 8:34Speaker 1: They told black moms and dads, don't worry about working hard.
- 8:37Speaker 1: We'll give you some free food and some free money
- 8:39Speaker 1: and some free education. And once you've got your grips
- 8:41Speaker 1: in a community like that, it's hard to give it up.
- 8:43Speaker 3: You know.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Okay, I'll hold my nose and vote for Trump, but
- 8:46Speaker 1: I don't want to lose all of my entitlements that
- 8:48Speaker 1: I'm getting. We've got two or three generations of young
- 8:51Speaker 1: Black Americans that grew up thinking daddy government owes me something,
- 8:56Speaker 1: and that disincentivizes people from succeeding. I mean, that's what
- 8:59Speaker 1: I think you and I are saying the same thing, right.
- 9:02Speaker 3: I am so emotional. I was just listening to you.
- 9:06Speaker 3: I am pissed off.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Good hang up here.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Black people.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I mean I would drive, I take I take the
- 9:12Speaker 2: streets mostly when I drive around Philadelphia, so that I
- 9:15Speaker 2: can learn the different neighborhoods. And you know, every single
- 9:19Speaker 2: time when you just drove into a predominantly black community,
- 9:24Speaker 2: because it's concrete jungle, no green space, it's bug bit
- 9:29Speaker 2: bedbug signs everywhere, trash and mattresses lined up.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Liquor stores on every corner.
- 9:34Speaker 2: You don't see businesses, you don't see you don't see
- 9:37Speaker 2: home ownership in most of these inner city black, predominantly
- 9:41Speaker 2: black communities, And it just.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Really rubs me raw.
- 9:45Speaker 2: And I think again, black men, specifically black women, it's
- 9:49Speaker 2: a different story, but black men. I saw this when
- 9:52Speaker 2: I was running against doctor Oz and others in that
- 9:55Speaker 2: Pennsylvania senatorial race back in twenty twenty two.
- 9:59Speaker 3: Black men are waking up.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Black men are at the bottom of any list where
- 10:05Speaker 2: something is being delineated as good. If you pick any
- 10:08Speaker 2: list that shows anything positive, Black men specifically are at
- 10:13Speaker 2: the bottom of that list. And you're right, the government
- 10:16Speaker 2: became the black woman's baby daddy.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:19Speaker 2: He's paying for the rent, he's paying for the food,
- 10:22Speaker 2: paying for.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Internet, paying for car. You basically don't have to work.
- 10:26Speaker 2: You only need to never have a man in the home,
- 10:31Speaker 2: living in the home, and establishing a family. And we
- 10:35Speaker 2: understand the role of the father and the importance of
- 10:37Speaker 2: the father. Martin Luther King Junior said, the greatest weapon
- 10:42Speaker 2: against poverty is a two parent household. Like that's the
- 10:46Speaker 2: beginning of the destruction of poverty. And that's the very
- 10:50Speaker 2: thing that with the swipe of a pen, as you said,
- 10:53Speaker 2: Lennon B. Johnson and the Democrat Party kind of wrote
- 10:57Speaker 2: that into law.
- 10:58Speaker 3: And we have seen it. And Lendon B.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Johnson is the one who said it that we will
- 11:02Speaker 2: have these n words voting Republicans for the next seventy years.
- 11:06Speaker 3: And he did not lie. We have I think I.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Think you said two hundred years. Actually I think you
- 11:11Speaker 1: said yeah. I mean, he looks like a huge We
- 11:15Speaker 1: still I live in Texas. We have parks named after
- 11:17Speaker 1: this idiot. We've got a lake named after this guy.
- 11:19Speaker 1: I mean, we're still acting like he somehow was the
- 11:22Speaker 1: be all end. He wasn't. He was the person that
- 11:24Speaker 1: told black men, you have no responsibility in society, you
- 11:28Speaker 1: have no responsibility for your family. We got it, and
- 11:31Speaker 1: then black men his whole his whole purpose was to
- 11:35Speaker 1: disenfranchise black men from being leaders in their community. And
- 11:38Speaker 1: it worked. And it makes me crazy, but I do
- 11:40Speaker 1: think that there's there's a change happening. It's Kathy Barnett.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Go get her book. It's called Nothing to Lose, Everything
- 11:45Speaker 1: to Gain being Black and conservative in America. And I
- 11:47Speaker 1: don't want to make this all about race, because you've
- 11:48Speaker 1: got a lot to say about a lot of other things.
- 11:49Speaker 1: But let me finish with this. Yeah, as as I
- 11:52Speaker 1: was growing up in a two parent household, my mother,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I think, let me flourish intellectually, let me flourish through
- 11:59Speaker 1: my of words. My father just had to give me
- 12:02Speaker 1: a look, and if I was acting out, I stopped.
- 12:05Speaker 1: I did not want to disappoint dad. And I'm now
- 12:07Speaker 1: the father of five daughters, and I've got three grandchildren.
- 12:10Speaker 1: And you met one of my daughters recently in New York.
- 12:13Speaker 1: And these people are going up knowing that Dad was
- 12:15Speaker 1: going to be sort of the compass when it came
- 12:18Speaker 1: to responsibility. Mom does everything else, but that's that's my role,
- 12:22Speaker 1: and I love that role. I think any man, black, white,
- 12:25Speaker 1: anything in between would love to have that role if
- 12:28Speaker 1: they know it's there for them. But instead, we've got
- 12:30Speaker 1: a community that thinks I don't have to take responsibility
- 12:33Speaker 1: for what I'm doing here. Let me go act out.
- 12:35Speaker 1: How do we fix that? How do we make how
- 12:37Speaker 1: do we make young black men understand that taking I
- 12:39Speaker 1: feel great being the leader of my house. I feel
- 12:41Speaker 1: great being somebody that my daughters can turn to for advice.
- 12:44Speaker 1: How do we make young black men understand that's their
- 12:47Speaker 1: role too?
- 12:48Speaker 3: Well?
- 12:48Speaker 2: You know it's not going to happen overnight, right like
- 12:50Speaker 2: what we've been the fruits of Lbjy's labor did not
- 12:56Speaker 2: happen overnight.
- 12:57Speaker 3: It took time.
- 12:58Speaker 2: But let me also say LB Jay could not have
- 13:01Speaker 2: done what he did, and woke white Democrats could not
- 13:05Speaker 2: have done what they did if it wasn't for black pastors, primarily.
- 13:14Speaker 3: Jesse Jackson's right.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Yeah, they pay them off, and they continue to pay
- 13:18Speaker 2: many of these black pastors in the black community off because,
- 13:22Speaker 2: unlike any other community, the black pastor have historically held
- 13:27Speaker 2: the role of going out into the culture, getting the
- 13:31Speaker 2: information coming back into the Black community and and and
- 13:36Speaker 2: breaking it down for of what it is we need
- 13:40Speaker 2: to do, what's right, what's wrong? Uh, it's just the
- 13:43Speaker 2: historical positioning of the of the black pastor and the
- 13:47Speaker 2: black community. And so so, you know, so I don't
- 13:49Speaker 2: want to give LBJ all the credit for destroying the
- 13:52Speaker 2: black family. You also have a big bright spotlight on
- 13:56Speaker 2: black pastors as.
- 13:57Speaker 3: Well, who have been.
- 14:01Speaker 2: A significant gatekeeper who gets to come into the black
- 14:04Speaker 2: community and speak to the black community. But with that said,
- 14:08Speaker 2: you know, this is one of the things that I mean,
- 14:10Speaker 2: I didn't even know I was fighting against feminism when
- 14:13Speaker 2: I was fighting against feminism as a young girl, when
- 14:16Speaker 2: I gave my life to the Lord at nineteen and
- 14:18Speaker 2: began to say, well, that looks stupid with the you know,
- 14:21Speaker 2: the feminist playbook that is handed down to every little
- 14:24Speaker 2: girl that says, you know, you can go out into
- 14:27Speaker 2: like that. You can go into a night club by yourself.
- 14:31Speaker 2: You can buy a drink, you can walk away from
- 14:34Speaker 2: the drink, you can come back and drink the drink,
- 14:36Speaker 2: and you never have to worry about someone spiking your
- 14:40Speaker 2: drink because you have in my case, black Girl Magic,
- 14:44Speaker 2: or for your daughter Sam's case, you go girl magic. Right,
- 14:48Speaker 2: you are a woman, Let everybody hear you roar. And
- 14:51Speaker 2: what feminism has done over the years for those who
- 14:53Speaker 2: are played by the feminist playbook, I'm looking at a
- 14:56Speaker 2: lot of thirty eight and forty two year old women
- 14:59Speaker 2: who are looking back and saying, Oh my god, what
- 15:01Speaker 2: have I done with my life? I slept with any
- 15:04Speaker 2: and everyone. I now have HPV and every other kind
- 15:07Speaker 2: of venarial disease.
- 15:10Speaker 3: I'm not married.
- 15:12Speaker 2: I'm looking you know, I've made myself kind of ineligible
- 15:16Speaker 2: for a man to want to marry.
- 15:19Speaker 3: What have I done with my life?
- 15:20Speaker 2: And I, you know, a lot of my time when
- 15:23Speaker 2: I speak on the radio or in public speaking, I'm
- 15:25Speaker 2: talking about how feminism has betrayed the woman, and how
- 15:29Speaker 2: feminism has alienated men and women, making it very difficult
- 15:34Speaker 2: for men and women, husband and wife to come together
- 15:38Speaker 2: and to communicate and to build a family in the
- 15:43Speaker 2: right way. Right. So, I'm spending a lot of my
- 15:45Speaker 2: time talking to my seventeen year old daughter what it
- 15:47Speaker 2: means to be a woman, and the ideal situation is
- 15:50Speaker 2: for her to leave the covering of her father and
- 15:53Speaker 2: brother who loves her very much, and walk into the
- 15:56Speaker 2: covering of her husband.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Because there are predators everywhere looking.
- 16:01Speaker 2: To hurt and to harm our young girls, and we're
- 16:03Speaker 2: watching that, whether in Europe or even hear on our
- 16:07Speaker 2: own land. I'm talking to my twenty year old son
- 16:09Speaker 2: making sure he knows not to marry a feminist woman,
- 16:13Speaker 2: but to you know, and what will happen if he
- 16:17Speaker 2: does right, as she is the hand that will rock
- 16:20Speaker 2: the cradle and raise his children.
- 16:23Speaker 3: And so that's the role of the woman.
- 16:25Speaker 2: And so a lot of my time is spent talking
- 16:28Speaker 2: to other women about what it means to you know,
- 16:32Speaker 2: to that the highest achievement is not what I've been
- 16:35Speaker 2: able to accomplish on my resume, and I've done a
- 16:38Speaker 2: lot of great things I can add to my resume,
- 16:40Speaker 2: but the most important decision I made as a young
- 16:43Speaker 2: woman with my husband is one to get married before
- 16:46Speaker 2: having children. After that learning the art of how to
- 16:51Speaker 2: keep a happy home raising my own children, which meant
- 16:55Speaker 2: I had to step out of corporate America homeschooling my
- 16:58Speaker 2: own children because I didn't want them to be indoctrinated
- 17:03Speaker 2: with some of the things that we're now watching in
- 17:05Speaker 2: the public school system. These are hard choices, but if
- 17:08Speaker 2: I could do it again, I would choose that path
- 17:10Speaker 2: a million times.
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- 18:34Speaker 1: Black and conservative in America. Let me just pick you
- 18:37Speaker 1: back on one point that you made. The black pastors
- 18:39Speaker 1: were literally paid off to allow for abortion clinics in
- 18:42Speaker 1: black neighborhoods, and they were telling young black women have
- 18:45Speaker 1: an abortion. And that's why there is such a massive
- 18:48Speaker 1: amount of serial killing in the black and Black community
- 18:52Speaker 1: when it comes to unborn children. And that's something that
- 18:54Speaker 1: people still try to act like didn't happen. It happened.
- 18:57Speaker 1: They were paid off by Planned Parenthood, run by Margaret Sanger,
- 19:00Speaker 1: who wanted to weed the Blacks out of society. She
- 19:02Speaker 1: said that, So at the end of the day, I
- 19:04Speaker 1: think that that community is play waking up, and I
- 19:07Speaker 1: want the community to wake up and be part of
- 19:09Speaker 1: the America community that I want to get into now.
- 19:12Speaker 1: America to fifty I'm really, really proud. I'm fifty nine
- 19:14Speaker 1: years old. When I see the red, white and blue,
- 19:16Speaker 1: it brings some wells to my eyes when I hear
- 19:20Speaker 1: somebody play it. I played the National Intimate Talkers. I
- 19:22Speaker 1: love playing the song. I'm very, very proud of what
- 19:25Speaker 1: the flag symbolizes. But this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
- 19:29Speaker 1: we've got a division in this country like I don't
- 19:30Speaker 1: think we've ever seen since the Civil War. The division
- 19:33Speaker 1: is the Democrats, or twenty nine percent of them are
- 19:35Speaker 1: proud to be American, twenty nine percent, it's over seventy
- 19:37Speaker 1: percent for Republicans. Kathy, How the hell did that happen?
- 19:40Speaker 1: How did we let that happen? And can we bring
- 19:42Speaker 1: people who think they're Democrats, think they're on that side.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Can we bring them back to understanding how great the
- 19:48Speaker 1: opportunity at least afforded here is because they don't like
- 19:51Speaker 1: the country.
- 19:53Speaker 3: And it's real and it's palpable.
- 19:56Speaker 2: When I was running for office, or when I was
- 19:58Speaker 2: working with the Vivak Promise Wan Me presidential campaign, and
- 20:01Speaker 2: we would go on to college campuses and I would
- 20:03Speaker 2: say things like I love this country, and to see
- 20:06Speaker 2: the shock and the awe on the faces of young
- 20:11Speaker 2: Americans who have been trained and indoctrinated for many years,
- 20:16Speaker 2: that our first response should be to apologize for America.
- 20:21Speaker 2: So one we need to start teaching what it means
- 20:25Speaker 2: to be an American.
- 20:25Speaker 3: We need to.
- 20:26Speaker 2: I mean, I remember being in the military and one
- 20:28Speaker 2: of my one of the first places I went was
- 20:32Speaker 2: South Korea, and then being able to get back to
- 20:35Speaker 2: America and kissing the ground which I got back and like,
- 20:40Speaker 2: oh my God, literally, oh my thank you Lord.
- 20:43Speaker 3: I'm so proud to be an American.
- 20:45Speaker 2: And this is from someone who has the blood of
- 20:48Speaker 2: slaves coursing through her veins, and having taken the time
- 20:53Speaker 2: to read about our founding fathers, the good, the bad,
- 20:56Speaker 2: the despicable things that have taken place in this country
- 20:59Speaker 2: and still come out, and then having traveled much of
- 21:02Speaker 2: the world and seeing how people actually live, reading about
- 21:06Speaker 2: communism and socialism and what those promises tend to work
- 21:11Speaker 2: out in people lives, and then being able to come
- 21:13Speaker 2: back to this country and realize that I was able
- 21:17Speaker 2: to claw my way out of dire poverty because of
- 21:21Speaker 2: this country, because of the mechanism that allowed someone like
- 21:25Speaker 2: me not to be placed in a cast system, and
- 21:29Speaker 2: not to be relegated as a peasant, but to be
- 21:32Speaker 2: able to pursue happiness as I saw it, you know,
- 21:37Speaker 2: but you have to play by some rules. For me,
- 21:40Speaker 2: it was giving my life to the Lord. But secondly
- 21:42Speaker 2: followed right after that is getting an education, waiting to
- 21:46Speaker 2: get married before I have children. So anyway, the point
- 21:49Speaker 2: is we have to do a better job, those of
- 21:52Speaker 2: us who know truth. We have to use whatever the
- 21:54Speaker 2: platform may be, whether it's just me walking over to
- 21:57Speaker 2: my neighbor's home and beginning to speak out loud about
- 22:01Speaker 2: how great this country is and how grateful we are
- 22:04Speaker 2: to be an American that used to.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Be assumed that used to be. Listen, you and I
- 22:09Speaker 1: could disagree on a few things. Politically, you and I
- 22:11Speaker 1: can disagree in a few things. Socially, you and I
- 22:13Speaker 1: would agree that we love the country. There was never
- 22:16Speaker 1: even a question about that. And for some reason, we
- 22:18Speaker 1: have made forty to fifty percent of this country question
- 22:22Speaker 1: whether we're great or not. And I noticed, Katherine, they're
- 22:24Speaker 1: not leaving. More and more people are flooding in. So
- 22:26Speaker 1: I mean that alone tells us how great the country is.
- 22:29Speaker 1: But when we see something like the hatred artists saying
- 22:32Speaker 1: I'm not going to perform at at the Capitol for
- 22:35Speaker 1: America to fifty because I don't like the guy in
- 22:37Speaker 1: the White House. That's decidedly stupid. Had Barack Obama asked
- 22:40Speaker 1: me to go play the national anthem when he was
- 22:42Speaker 1: the president, I would have and I wouldn't have said
- 22:45Speaker 1: I hate you as a president. I didn't hate the guy,
- 22:47Speaker 1: he just didn't like his policies. This something has changed
- 22:49Speaker 1: with a younger generation. Do you think that academia did this?
- 22:52Speaker 1: Do you think Hollywood did this? You think big music
- 22:54Speaker 1: did this? Who did this?
- 22:55Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely?
- 22:57Speaker 2: All of the above once again, But they can only
- 22:59Speaker 2: do it because mothers have left the home. We have
- 23:04Speaker 2: diminished the importance of the of the mother's role in
- 23:09Speaker 2: the home, and we would place greater significance on her
- 23:12Speaker 2: being outside of the home. Greater value is placed on
- 23:16Speaker 2: her if she's outside of the home making a difference.
- 23:20Speaker 2: So again, for me, it comes right back down. I mean,
- 23:22Speaker 2: I have a quick story if you don't mind, Do
- 23:24Speaker 2: I have a moment? You know? So, my husband and
- 23:28Speaker 2: I had decided that I would you know, stay home
- 23:31Speaker 2: longer instead of just when the kids go to school.
- 23:35Speaker 2: We decided we would homeschool the kids. So now I'm
- 23:38Speaker 2: having to extend my time in the home versus out
- 23:41Speaker 2: in the workforce. But by this time, I am now
- 23:44Speaker 2: going to Fox News up in Manhattan two to three
- 23:47Speaker 2: times every single week for four years from twenty sixteen
- 23:51Speaker 2: to twenty.
- 23:52Speaker 3: Twenty, and we loved it.
- 23:53Speaker 2: The kids would get in the car and they would
- 23:56Speaker 2: send a car down and bring us up to New
- 23:58Speaker 2: York and we loved it. But one day, it was
- 24:01Speaker 2: about twenty of us who were doing a veteran panel,
- 24:04Speaker 2: and the resumes of these young men and women were
- 24:07Speaker 2: just so impressive, and Heraldo happened to be in the
- 24:11Speaker 2: green room and he was just sitting there absorbing.
- 24:14Speaker 3: All of the energy. He was the big cheese in
- 24:17Speaker 3: the green room.
- 24:18Speaker 2: He was very very nice man, very magnanimous, but he
- 24:22Speaker 2: was asking every person.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Well, what do you do? What do you do? What
- 24:26Speaker 3: do you do?
- 24:26Speaker 2: And I felt, any minute he's going to ask me
- 24:29Speaker 2: what I do. And I felt this over sense, this
- 24:33Speaker 2: overwhelming sense of shame because all I do is homeschool
- 24:36Speaker 2: my kids. And I remember trying to weasel out and
- 24:40Speaker 2: wiggle my way to the back of the room. But
- 24:42Speaker 2: as I was doing it. Hearaldo and my eyes locked.
- 24:46Speaker 3: He asked, what do you do? And I just blurted out,
- 24:51Speaker 3: I homeschooled my.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Kid and he that he that, hmm, I don't know
- 24:58Speaker 2: how I feel about that, and I that good because
- 25:00Speaker 2: I didn't ask you.
- 25:02Speaker 3: And I started.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Laughing to break the break the tension. He laughed, Everyone
- 25:06Speaker 2: else laughed. But that was the very first time because
- 25:09Speaker 2: as a Christian Conservative who've been fighting against feminism, I
- 25:14Speaker 2: would have never thought that you know that that I
- 25:18Speaker 2: had been touched by feminism. That says what I'm doing
- 25:23Speaker 2: as a woman, as a mother is not important unless
- 25:27Speaker 2: I have this long, fancy title behind my name. But
- 25:31Speaker 2: that was just But that was the first time that
- 25:33Speaker 2: I was able to actually label what that dynamic on
- 25:37Speaker 2: the inside of myself was was was all about.
- 25:41Speaker 3: It was it's the pervasiveness.
- 25:43Speaker 2: You don't even have to be taught feminism and the
- 25:46Speaker 2: rules of feminism, that my importance is more outside of
- 25:50Speaker 2: the home than it is inside the home. It was
- 25:53Speaker 2: just a part of the atmosphere, part of the culture.
- 25:56Speaker 2: And that's the same way with this sense of just
- 25:58Speaker 2: hatefulness and and vitriol towards the greatest country that has
- 26:03Speaker 2: ever existed.
- 26:04Speaker 3: No one at this.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Point has to go out and teach our children that
- 26:08Speaker 2: you should apologize for having all the privileges of being
- 26:12Speaker 2: born an American. It's just something you walk into, right,
- 26:16Speaker 2: And so I think of it from that perspective, Well,
- 26:19Speaker 2: what is it that we need to do. We need
- 26:22Speaker 2: those of us who know better. We need to create
- 26:25Speaker 2: an environment that challenges that pervasive culture by sharing our
- 26:31Speaker 2: own values, because that's what culture is is shared values,
- 26:35Speaker 2: shared beliefs, shared ideas.
- 26:37Speaker 3: And we need to be people like you and I
- 26:39Speaker 3: and others.
- 26:40Speaker 2: The President has the largest bully pulpit in the nation,
- 26:44Speaker 2: standing up and putting the money behind the resources to
- 26:48Speaker 2: create this culture of gratitude.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Look how amazing we are.
- 26:53Speaker 2: He's doing that a little bit with cleaning up Washington,
- 26:56Speaker 2: DC and the Lincoln Reflection poll. Is that sense of pride?
- 27:01Speaker 2: Those are the things that we can do. There is
- 27:04Speaker 2: no magic wand to take us back to where we
- 27:06Speaker 2: used to be when you and I grew up in
- 27:08Speaker 2: this atmosphere of appreciation. It really is day by day,
- 27:12Speaker 2: minute by minute, people like you and I making a
- 27:15Speaker 2: decision that I'm grateful for the nation that I was
- 27:18Speaker 2: born into and I'm going to talk about it publicly.
- 27:22Speaker 1: I love it. You know, it's so stupid that we're
- 27:24Speaker 1: arguing about the pool. How stupid is that we're arguing
- 27:27Speaker 1: about the reflecting pool. The left wants more algae, the
- 27:31Speaker 1: right just wants it cleaned and looked nice. And you
- 27:33Speaker 1: literally have people vandalizing it because they really don't want
- 27:36Speaker 1: it to look nice, even though Obama spent one hundred
- 27:38Speaker 1: million dollars trying to fix it and he didn't. Trump
- 27:40Speaker 1: spent a whole lot less than that, and people are
- 27:42Speaker 1: literally trying to make it green again because he's a
- 27:45Speaker 1: quote unquote fascist, which is so stupid. Let me finish
- 27:48Speaker 1: with this, and I love what you just said. That
- 27:50Speaker 1: was amazing. You, by the way, had the most important
- 27:52Speaker 1: job in that green room that day, bar none. I mean,
- 27:55Speaker 1: my wife stays home and her job is so she
- 27:59Speaker 1: takes care of everything so that we don't have to
- 28:02Speaker 1: worry about everything being taken care of. And you, as
- 28:05Speaker 1: somebody who's done that and has done it for a
- 28:07Speaker 1: long time, you know what I'm talking about. As much
- 28:09Speaker 1: as I bring in the money, as much as I
- 28:11Speaker 1: try to protect and hunt and gather, she takes care
- 28:13Speaker 1: of all of it, and I get that the role
- 28:15Speaker 1: that you play was way more important than anybody else
- 28:17Speaker 1: in that green room. Let me finish with this. Had
- 28:19Speaker 1: you made it into the Senate, and you know that
- 28:21Speaker 1: I advocated for you as hard as I could. Had
- 28:23Speaker 1: you made it, Had you made it into the Senate,
- 28:25Speaker 1: and had you just had to vote on the War
- 28:28Speaker 1: Powers Act like this, A Republican run Senate Kathy yesterday
- 28:32Speaker 1: said the President has to bring the troops back from
- 28:34Speaker 1: the region. They really dared say that. He has to
- 28:39Speaker 1: ignore Iran killing Americans. I think it's one American every
- 28:42Speaker 1: three or four days by if you average it out.
- 28:44Speaker 1: He has to ignore that, ignore their nuclear aspirations, and
- 28:47Speaker 1: bring them back. Had you been in the Senate, what
- 28:49Speaker 1: would you have said to your colleagues when they voted
- 28:51Speaker 1: that way?
- 28:52Speaker 3: Oh, let me tell you. And one I meant talk about.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Flipping over tables and making sure, you know, making sure
- 29:01Speaker 2: that the people understand what's going on. I mean, the
- 29:05Speaker 2: only thing Republicans fear besides losing their seat is being shane,
- 29:11Speaker 2: having a spotlight placed on them.
- 29:13Speaker 3: I mean, we're some.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Of the most, you know, just some of the most
- 29:17Speaker 2: I don't know, weak willed, people in the remaining party,
- 29:20Speaker 2: Like we have the House, we have the Senate, we
- 29:24Speaker 2: have the Executive Office, and we can't even protect our
- 29:27Speaker 2: own elections, right. And there's something that I learned when
- 29:31Speaker 2: I was, you know, running and now walking behind the
- 29:34Speaker 2: curtains in my own Senate race, now with Vivek on
- 29:37Speaker 2: the presidential campaign and being in the room with a
- 29:40Speaker 2: lot of these people. I mean, we're really in trouble.
- 29:43Speaker 2: We have not elected the best of us. And what
- 29:46Speaker 2: I saw when I was on the ground is that
- 29:48Speaker 2: we have some of the best people, but those who
- 29:51Speaker 2: have wiggled and slithered their way into positions of power,
- 29:56Speaker 2: or truly some of the worst of us, who are
- 29:58Speaker 2: just you knowatures who just have an insatiable appetite for power.
- 30:06Speaker 2: And we're watching it right, I Mean, look at where
- 30:09Speaker 2: we are. We control the House to send it and
- 30:11Speaker 2: the White House, and we still have not done a
- 30:14Speaker 2: mass deportation.
- 30:16Speaker 3: What are we doing?
- 30:17Speaker 2: We have not secured our elections. We still have boys
- 30:21Speaker 2: and girls sports, like, what are we doing? And the
- 30:25Speaker 2: clock is ticking And I've been looking at the number
- 30:28Speaker 2: of races all across the nation and the fact that
- 30:31Speaker 2: we're even in a situation with these demented lunatics on
- 30:35Speaker 2: the left that we're we're that some of our seats
- 30:39Speaker 2: are actually being threatened, Like what are they offering the
- 30:43Speaker 2: American people? And the fact that we're even in this
- 30:46Speaker 2: position should be pissing most of us off, Like how
- 30:49Speaker 2: in the world do we get into a position where
- 30:52Speaker 2: we could lose control of the House? How did this happen?
- 30:58Speaker 2: What are Democrats offering? And I can't just blame the
- 31:02Speaker 2: Democrat Party. I have to look at my own party
- 31:05Speaker 2: and say, what in the world have we been doing
- 31:08Speaker 2: with the opportunity that so many people like myself and
- 31:11Speaker 2: like you were out here on the ground beating the
- 31:13Speaker 2: ground over the last three elections to make sure Donald
- 31:16Speaker 2: Trump gets an office. We're not getting a whole lot
- 31:19Speaker 2: out of what we thought we would be getting domestically
- 31:24Speaker 2: from the control of all three chambers.
- 31:28Speaker 1: And I'll answer you this way. The Democrats aren't doing
- 31:30Speaker 1: anything other than saying Trump bead. Democrats aren't doing anything
- 31:33Speaker 1: other than saying Barnett and Pag's bead. And for some reason,
- 31:37Speaker 1: there are people now that will sit in their hands
- 31:39Speaker 1: and not vote. For some reason, there are people that
- 31:41Speaker 1: are in the middle that are independents that are going
- 31:42Speaker 1: I don't like how mean that truth social post was
- 31:45Speaker 1: by Trump's I'm going to go vote for a Democrat.
- 31:47Speaker 1: And at the same time, the undercurrent is you've got
- 31:49Speaker 1: people like Mamdani and this guy who just beat Dan
- 31:52Speaker 1: Goldman in a primary New York who's also this radical
- 31:55Speaker 1: socialist from South Asia. So you've got a lot of
- 31:59Speaker 1: that going on in the undercurrent. As the top level Democrats,
- 32:02Speaker 1: you're just complaining Republicans bad. You have to vote for
- 32:04Speaker 1: us because we're not quite as bad. And I hope
- 32:06Speaker 1: that we can wake people up before November. And you're right.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Passing the Save America Act should have been so easy
- 32:12Speaker 1: with these these majorities that we have in both the
- 32:14Speaker 1: House and the Senate, and for some reason it didn't
- 32:15Speaker 1: get done. Kathy, I love having you on. Go to
- 32:17Speaker 1: Kathy Barnett dot com. It's book. Barnett is b A
- 32:19Speaker 1: R N E T T E dot com and go
- 32:21Speaker 1: get her book Nothing to Lose, Everything to Gain being
- 32:23Speaker 1: Black and Conservative in America. I just love having you on.
- 32:26Speaker 1: It always brings a lot of joy to my life.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Let's do it again very soon.
- 32:29Speaker 3: Can we absolutely thank you so much?
- 32:32Speaker 1: You're amazing. That's it for this one. Another unshaken and
- 32:34Speaker 1: unafraid with Joe Paggs. He dropped very soon. We're back
- 32:37Speaker 1: after this