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Tribal Heathenry In Times Of Social Distancing · Random Heathen Ramblings

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All right, folks, hello and welcome back to another episode
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of midgard, musings. I'm joined today.
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Once again, with my friend and the go, the of the current car
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folk. Mr. Eric word.
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We were Sherman. Go ahead and say hi.
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Eric, Howdy, Folks. This is Eric.
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When we were sharing, I'm going through the rigor folk here in
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East, Texas and Just, you know, just a couple of 50 over the
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last couple years now, and we've been doing this for a minute and
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Jesse. Thank you for having me on
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today. Dude.
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I am definitely looking forward to this conversation.
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So this today's discussion guys, is going to be kind of like a as
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Eric mentioned earlier before we got on here, a sort of Round
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Table discussion. Where Going to be talking about
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some things, but I think something that is on our hearts
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and Minds a lot. Not just myself, or Eric for
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instance. But a lot of folks out here and
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subject being of in times that we're in right now, global
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pandemic situation, a lot of social distancing taking place,
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things may be starting to loosen up a little bit, but for the
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longest part of six months now, it's going to very strict and
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different lifestyle, that a lot of us are being when stay put I
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do too, but that we're kind of having to live, you know, so we
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wanted to talk today, Eric and I about this dealing with, or
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being able to maintain or even start a tribe.
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So, we're talking about tribal Heathen reading in times of
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social distancing. So, I have been looking forward
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to. That was a little bit of a long
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intro, but I'm Eric's the Eric's, the word Weaver.
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I'm the word dumper. I don't know.
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It's all right, dude. So what we do, So, the first
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thing that I think a lot of folks may be trying to do now,
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especially with the whole social distancing thing.
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We're quarantined is either, starting the tribe themselves
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may be wanting to look for tribe to join, you know, so I think
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the, the focus would be like, starting a fresh starting new
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and it comes to, you know, either building your own tribe
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or starting your own tribe because Way, the way, we
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understand it, right? We with the ultimate focus being
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on, we have what we have our own individual lock, right?
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We're talking about pretty it's I would say like not one-on-one
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either through. So we're going to start talking
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about things about locking what that look means.
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And we have our own individual like that.
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Then you have the tribals luck, which is a collective, right?
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So you don't want to do anything.
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That's going to start off. Tribe and not having strong luck
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attached to it. So Eric's had his tribe, the
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three guard folk. Now, for how long that Gator.
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I believe we founded that 2010. So I think it's where I think
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we're right at ten years this year.
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Matter of fact, I think this one's marks our 10-year
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anniversary. I go back and check, well, In
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that shirt from La ATP, but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure it's
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silly TP 2010 that we kicked off, red gar.
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Oh, well, well, happy anniversary.
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It's of red gar. If that's the case.
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Thank you. I'm like now about 98 percent.
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Certain. I need to get on the horn and
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talk to my people be like, hey guys, we got an anniversary.
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Yeah, so, you know, very, I think, you know anybody, that
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that we, I think you and I collectively or individually
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have have talked about the The building of tribe and that it
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can't be something that's forced, has to be something that
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naturally and organically very organic and it comes, but it
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really comes from community. So, without the community to
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build that tribe from here, like skipping steps, putting the cart
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before the horse, as it were. So I think that has an important
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thing to do with right tribe, right?
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Before something. Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean we're talking about I mean before we even get into the
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subject, how do you build a tribe or develop your tribe or
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even supporting the drive? Yeah, in the era of social
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distancing and it's a globalization say there and
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social distancing. There's a number of social
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elements that go into kind of where the world is right now and
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what all we're dealing with. So we can refer to it as that
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but we both understand there's there's a lot more that just so
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Social distancing played, it has to be taken into account.
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When you're dealing with trying to protect your tribe, get it at
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a sec. But, yeah, when it comes to
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starting a tribe, just naturally, it's difficult for
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newbies, especially or even seasoned heathens.
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They're looking, they just feel that sense of need to belong,
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and they want to eat part of a tribe so bad and they want to
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just rush it, you know, they get so excited about the concept and
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and unfortunately, a lot of them haven't had the experience of
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tribe and whatnot, the force they They want to build too
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fast. They want to start, you know,
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they get a group of friends together and then immediately
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want to start throwing names at it, and setting up a structure
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and all this stuff. And I haven't even really had
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the time to establish Worth, or to build friends with one
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another and almost almost every time those things just fall
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apart. So me before we even could
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discuss, how to do it social distancing.
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Yes, start everything think that urge to run.
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Hush. Yeah, you gotta walk before you
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run man. You got to walk before you run
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that I completely agree, that tribe has to grow organically
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and slowly over time. You can't just can't just rush
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it. You can't just throw at it and
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make it happen. It's not going to work.
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That way. That my big thing is you have to
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grow The Roots deep for the tree to grow.
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If you grow them. If you go the tree too fast for
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that root system is just going to fall over at the first wind
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mean, it's so you got to take a minute and let the root set.
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Then they can grow. Yeah.
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Yeah, and that's kind of how it started like for me, you know,
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for instance. I had not been looking away.
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Even though there were some local kindred's or tribes in the
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in my area and I was looking to be be a part of something,
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right? Belonged to something.
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They weren't they like the, their, their tribal structure.
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Just didn't fit what I was looking for us.
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Specifically and I did nothing wrong to say about those folks.
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It's just it wasn't fitting for me.
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So I you know a lot to do with Erics Channel and the things
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he's talking about with you know, building tribes stuff took
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a lot of ideas and inspiration. He was a big inspiration for for
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me. So once the community got built,
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which was done through a social media, social media was a big
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part in getting that Community, but we actually had to then meet
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in person, right? We can't just say.
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Oh, I've got a hundred people online in my, you know, even
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community and then let's build a tribe out of those people.
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Like there has to be that physical element.
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Yeah, okay. To the social distancing thing
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that makes it challenging more than others can maybe, you know,
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aggressively seek that that closeness physicality, right?
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I can't tell you the number of times.
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I've seen people on like heated forums online.
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Line or heated Facebook groups were the worst they'd Rock along
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and then all of the sudden they would decide like a local.
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Somebody's local group would be like, okay.
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So this is, you know, middle of nowhere, Texas is heathens and
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then they would get just enough people on there to show you the
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interest. Maybe have a meet-up or two
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decided they were going to be friends and then just return the
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Facebook group into a tribe and I have no idea what they were
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thinking on that one and it died.
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I've seen a couple of groups do this and it just flabbergasted
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me every time. It's like, you guys actually
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need physicality for this to work, you know, you can't do a
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virtual tribe and it'd be an actual drive.
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You can have a virtual friend group that you can't have a
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virtual Drive. Yeah.
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Yeah, and I think that that's a lot of times where people get,
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Maybe not, maybe not. Used, but they get misled.
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You know, they think, well, I've been talking to this person for
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so long, you know, you can get to know somebody's really well
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without having to physically be. So let you know being bi in
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person. Let's say me and you for
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instance, right? Eric, like, we've talked online
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and we've collaborated virtually for your to now.
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Right. I've gotten to know one another
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and that our conversations have, you know, developed and you talk
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about various things even offline.
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Um, but still there's there's you get a sense of what could
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what Frisk could possibly be me right after I get that true.
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That true feel that that actual thing, right?
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There's a there's a palpable difference between Cala T
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element. We are actually sharing energies
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and when you are using a conduit of the internet and that's
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that's something that I plan on exploring some a little bit in
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some of my future videos. Off and on as a subject, as, you
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know, the whole in the modern era, modern either, e equal.
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How much exactly how much energy do you conduct through virtual
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channels? And, you know, spoiler alert.
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The answer is very very little if any at all because there's a
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number of disconnects. There's a number of channels
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there. There is a psychic connection.
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So does the but not really, it's more a psychological connection
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than it is connection. Anyway.
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Um, yeah, the whole physicality thing.
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I mean, you we know from firsthand, there's a total
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difference when you actually get to meet someone in person and
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interact with them and build energy that way versus doing
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over there we do best. Can we have a lot of fun with
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it, too? Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. I think I think it's very
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telling, I mean it does, it does.
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I mean, this is a form of ourself, you know what I mean?
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You know, it's not the physical self and it's a simile of it and
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it's gives us some Sense of like who you are?
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What kind of person you are where your head's at that sort
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of thing right over what anybody say one of the things that I
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think people forget when they're talking about, like, the virtual
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interaction with people and assuming virtual frith where it
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doesn't really exist. I see there's no such thing as
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actual virtual 4S. There's actual for, if it's not,
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but on the internet, everything goes through a filter.
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There is there's the filter of production time.
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There is the filter of yo the period of time between writing
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and hitting send. There is the filter of persona
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that a person may be putting on for short period of Time video
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call or something like that. And then once the call ins, they
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step out of that character and back into themselves.
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You really never know what's going on on the other end of the
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screen. I mean, if you look at some of
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your favorite celebrities, And stuff and movies, and whatnot.
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You can get a full sense of that.
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Kinship with them death again Falls can ship thing that I keep
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coming back to you on myself and you start to assume that you
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know them based on the Persona that's been presented to you and
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then you know you go you follow one of them on Twitter and you
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find out that they're like way out there.
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Crazy bad are just that you nothing.
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Like you actually expected them to be in real life.
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That can be true that buddy online kids.
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That some people will do a lot to look real good online and to
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keep their Persona. They will manage that brand
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really well and you can have a relationship with the brand but
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you don't know the person and I've seen some people that are
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just absolute troglodytes online and then are great people in
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person. So they they really Embrace that
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online troll thing. And then in person, they're just
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puppy dogs. So I it goes either way, but
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then you got to keep that in mind as you go through you never
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really know. No.
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The person on the other end of the line until you actually
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spend some time with him and figure it out when they don't
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have the buffer of the internet between you and them.
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Yeah. No, I think you know for for
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anybody that's out here that maybe getting that itch, you
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know, they're like I want to experience that closeness.
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I want to exchange those energies.
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I want to be able to understand and build and maintain Frizzle.
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We talk a little bit about that and the illusion of that online,
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but they want to get to that. And now we're in this time where
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it's like, well, a lot of people are very, very aware, and very
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cautious of how they interact in person with a people.
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Course, there's barriers and things that we can maintain and
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distances that we can maintain. How much do you think that it's
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really impacting? What it means to experience
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tried, how much do you think that it's a verdict people from
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doing anything? Or maybe, I don't know.
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Like, what's your, what's your thoughts on it?
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Kind of curious? My thoughts are my thoughts, are
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that one? There are two elements to the
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social distancing thing that are over, played in the popular
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element, so I'm not going to get into some of Specific sign.
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I'm not politicizing the views and everything on it.
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But in keeping with the ideology of, you know, keeping people
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safe and night's not over risking the cross-contamination,
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most tribes are small enough that they can gather even
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without. Violating the whole number of
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gathered individuals. I mean, there's enough
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parameters set within the guidelines of the whole social
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distancing aspect that you can still get a group of people
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together. You can still sit your front
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yard even still Converse. You can still have a great time
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and spend time around each other and still you can maintain your
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six feet apart. You can wear your masks, you can
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get answers. Are you do all of these things
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and still be able to interact when we go to work every day?
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At least those of us in essential industries that don't
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shut down for anything. We didn't shut.
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Single day, throughout any of this.
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I've been at work every day throughout the whole thing.
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And so when we make it work and because that there I know how to
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do it at home too. So the main hiccup that I see so
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far with tribe is that his really brought into a kind of
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hyper Focus, the necessity of localized physicality because I
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have tried members that are spread throughout I've got one
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set of my tribe members lives. Three hours from me.
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And three hours is a bit of a distance.
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It's also several counties over, which means they are under
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different guidelines. And so when like, my city would
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be on a soft lockdown hard lockdown because they live in a
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very, very, urban area. And when that kicks up it, then
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plays in a whole different element on whether or not You
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can travel that three hours over here, to a completely different
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biome than what they have going on there with regards to
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infection rates and everything. So it makes a lot of travel
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because we have to take into account.
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Everybody's jobs. Everybody's our livelihoods in
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general. If anybody's got ailing, family
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members, or elderly family members because there's certain
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things that we would be willing to do if we were just
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considering ourselves. As you know anyway, like I don't
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want to talk too much about the particulars because then
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everybody will get up and up in the comments.
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But the gist is that there are legitimate concerns with
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covid-19 very legitimate concerns and that is enough for
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us to say, you know, maybe it's best you'll not travel the three
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and a half hours over here to set up because you got a whole
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different. Game of exposure over there.
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We hear and we have entirely different variables.
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So we're not just connecting the people.
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We might normally interact with on a daily basis.
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We're connecting contagion possibilities from two different
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cities from two, completely different biomes.
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And so we've had to cut back a lot on the travel from some of
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our more distant tribe members. And that's that's the part.
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That's really, really hurt. The most is my localized tribe
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members. It's still nothing for us, just
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to kind of pop over and see each other and meet up in some place,
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can observe social distancing and all the rules and
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everything, but it's not the hint, it is, when it comes to
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like a distance, traveled tribe member and under normal
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circumstances, without all the social distancing stuff.
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We would never really think about it because it's nothing
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for them to jump in the car and drive three hours over here.
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And, you know, spend the day with us.
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For us to jump in the car and go to them.
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It's totally different thing. When, you know, one three-hour
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trip might cost you 2 weeks of work or more depending on the
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scenario. So it gets dodgy on stuff and
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that's that's the part where I see the main impact.
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There are some impacts as far as ritual and things like that
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goes. The largest one being stumbled,
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but I figured we probably talked.
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Ritual elements here in a little bit because that's a whole topic
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of conversation itself. But as far as the generality
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goes so minor mechanics, which we'll talk about here in a bit
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and then the regional proximity has really been brought into
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laser focus. For me.
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It is made very evident to me. That I would love to have all of
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my people within a 50-mile radius of each other.
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I think that would change things considerably.
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So, so that's kind of how I see. I mean, what about you?
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I I'm in line with you on that and I've actually gotten to
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think more lately because my situation was, you know, we had
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some folks of the of the community that we deem to be
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very close. But within our inner yard is,
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you know, they came and they celebrated duel with us earlier.
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We do. Are you old in the beginning of
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the year a little bit more Focus to the actual like historical
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pre-christian? Pre hakan, the good kind of time
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frame when you always observed. So, anyways, we got you.
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When we did you old, the announced the formation of
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Florida Folk Art right here in Middle, Tennessee, and a month
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and a half. After that was all of a sudden,
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it's, you know, shelter in place and pandemic.
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And so we didn't really get any time to start doing the tribe
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stuff. You know, like we were, you
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know, we were Doing like localized Regional or localized,
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meetups in our in our area just to kind of get to know people
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and build that, you know, personal relationship.
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And then from there, we were going to try things.
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So, the tribe thing really got put on Hulk very quickly before
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we even got started. But now that we've kind of been
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in that focus of social distancing, or understanding
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like this maze, probably like, the new Norm, but, you know, the
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new normal for a while you're like, okay.
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Well, now that we've got kind of have Done it.
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Now for the last four five, six months.
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We can start thinking about doing things again because it's
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again, very small groups of people and ending in, you know,
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your situation in Texas, my situations in Tennessee, other
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people watch and have other localized and Regional
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guidelines, and but, you know, laws and stuff that they're
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probably having to adhere to. So it's going to be different
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for everybody. But I think it's important to
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don't just don't let it be like, well, it's, you know, covid we
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can't Eat up, we can't do it. Don't let that be an excuse to
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not go and do things be thoughtful and be careful of it
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because like Eric said you got people that are coming from a
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totally different geographical location where things could
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impact them. Way more differently that ties
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back to the luck of the tribe. Right?
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And you don't want to do anything that damages anyone's
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lager or damages, the luck of the tribe and just be consider
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it right? Like don't don't don't do things
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that are just so selfish that it makes it makes the whole
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situation bad. So I think the lesson that I've
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kind of taken away from this whole thing is that you can't
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replace the actual, you know, personal physicality of tribe.
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Can't replace it with anything. But in times like this, when
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there's other die, it's a dynamic that we're not used to
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you just kind of have to adapt to it and think outside the box
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or less, which I kind of like that.
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It's forcing us to do that. So we talked earlier about like
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what Frisk? We've talked a lot on both of
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our channels, I think about what frizz and I people can go back
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and search either of our channels to find things that I
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think you actually did one Frisk versus growth or risk as opposed
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to Gryffindor getting. Yeah.
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Yeah. I did.
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I did one. That was kind of an intro into
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Frisk versus grit, and it's just it's a lexicon difference.
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But yeah, but it'll give it'll give newbies especially or It'll
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give people, maybe you're using the terms incorrectly meeting
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thinking. That means one thing and that it
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actually means another week. You guys can check all that out.
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And I wanted to just gonna kind of go over that so forth has to
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be something. That's Between two people or
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between multiple people, but in person, it has to be that
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physicality. You can't, we can't experience
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what the meaning of frith is either through a zoom call, or
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through Facebook or through any other sort of online platform.
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Not not truly, like Eric said, before, I think it's either it,
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there's real further. There's no words not.
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There's no online experiences were Is not online experiences,
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but this whole, the whole thing is, you know, social distancing.
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Now, I think that Fritz has to hit, you have to have that
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physicality, but you don't need to be like, you know, up in each
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other's faces with its that, that sense of trust and
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obligation that is that is built between individuals.
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So it's almost like to me, the social distancing thing, doesn't
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really truly play a factor when it comes to frith.
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But I'll let you go. I'll let you thought stuff, but
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the essence, the core element of Fritz is obligation.
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The trust that is born that is intrinsic.
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Within fourth is born out of upheld obligations, social
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obligations to one another, the obligation not to hurt each
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other, the obligation to defend each other, the obligation to
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fulfill, whatever your role is within the social contract, etc.
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Etc. It builds up over time.
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And just kind of organically develops and you're born into
25:10
frith in the family, but you can't assume frith with other
25:13
individuals as you engage in a back-and-forth of mutual
25:16
obligation, Mutual upheld obligation.
25:20
And so it's kind of twofold what I wanted to talk about here.
25:28
But the on the one hand the online thing as far as the
25:31
virtual versus real and the establishment of frith, there's
25:35
no obligation. No, Evil obligation to one
25:38
another through the digital media.
25:41
If that is your soul relationship.
25:44
You may have business obligations and upholding those
25:47
things like okay for instance you and I set up this meeting
25:50
today to do this Zoom call and if either one of us had not
25:55
shown up for it, that would damage our reputation in the
26:02
person's eyes, how reliable we are to that person.
26:07
But it's not something as intrinsic as like, you know, did
26:12
you trusted me dearly? And that, you know, I sold
26:14
something very, very dear to you and didn't even think about how
26:17
you're going to feel that kind of stuff is a betrayal of
26:19
breath, you know, but this would be more of a betrayal of good
26:22
frame which is damaging to the reputation.
26:26
It functions in a similar fashion from a superficial
26:30
level. But that's more what we're
26:33
dealing with online is. We're dealing with a mixture of
26:36
GIF rain and With, and people don't necessarily understand
26:39
that those differ versus frith, which, you know, again, that
26:47
that you go back. Look the videos to get the
26:49
nuances on that. But the point that I'm making is
26:52
far as how social distancing may play into frith, is at that core
26:57
element of obligation, one of the obligations that you have
27:00
here, fourth web is to care for their well-being, and to not do
27:04
something selfishly, that may damage there will be So, in
27:09
essence, by not necessarily Gathering My Tribe for like
27:17
festivals or something like that, during the middle of a
27:20
major emic or any kind of situation like this, even if it
27:26
was biochem agents, nuclear fallout anything like that?
27:30
By saying, no, let's not get everybody together right now.
27:34
For this Gathering, you know. Maybe different really Gathering
27:38
to help protect each other and provide food, and all that
27:41
stuff. We're doing the commute kind of
27:42
thing. Yeah, that would be different.
27:43
But for a socialized Gathering to say, okay, maybe we need to
27:47
hold off just a little bit for social Gathering.
27:50
I even though this would be something that would normally be
27:53
a fourth building exercise. I'm looking to protect your are
27:56
frith by protecting you guys. By not.
28:02
What do you do in a potentially harmful situation?
28:05
I'm upholding my Go. The to look after the well-being
28:09
of my people. And so, you know, after a
28:12
fashion being mindful of these things, be mindful of social
28:15
distancing being mindful of masks.
28:18
And just general non infection type, protocols is being mindful
28:23
of the well-being of the other people in your tribe, the other
28:25
people in your inner goddess and in doing so you're upholding
28:28
your obligation to them, to not do.
28:31
So to, you know, be They're really risk-taking in the way
28:40
you do, your Gathering would be disrespectful to them because
28:43
you're telling them that you don't care, whether or not
28:45
they're out for two weeks or more or if their health takes a
28:48
significant turn or if they have any compounding issues that
28:50
there could be more to it. If they were to contract the
28:53
disease. It's a mindfulness thing in the
28:57
general concept of the principle of the matter.
29:01
So, that's kind of my take on that.
29:05
Yeah, not You bring up a really good point, too, because when we
29:11
were talking about like, preserving luck and preserving
29:15
for, if maintaining, it's like a preventive measure, you know,
29:18
it's like the maintenance you do before the problem actually
29:20
Rises, but you have to have something already there and
29:26
that's where I think a lot of people now, especially if they
29:28
didn't get that chance to experience something in person.
29:30
They're like, well it's because of the pandemic and now we've
29:32
got to do it differently. And this is modern times doesn't
29:35
change the actual. Roots of it all, you know, I
29:38
mean, it doesn't actually change a basis of it.
29:40
Like, okay, we'll just because you B and C doesn't mean that
29:44
you just jump to L. And yeah, just because it's just
29:49
because it's more That doesn't change the metaphysics behind
29:54
what's going on? Yep.
29:56
There's there's very real, very, very real functions that are
30:00
going on here that that you can't bypass just because it's
30:02
inconvenient. Exactly.
30:05
And I think that that, you know, comes into the realm of the
30:10
tribal leader, you know, they're they're ultimately the ones who
30:14
are like the caretaker of the tribes luck as it were into
30:18
preserving, to make sure that it doesn't Get damaged.
30:21
So it's a, it's a, it's a very the the obligation is greater
30:28
for. Oh, yes, you know, I mean,
30:31
there's a lot more at stake. I completely agree.
30:34
This is this a tough time to be a tribal leader at the moment
30:38
with her. Do the achieved and give you
30:40
whatever, I don't care. This is a tough time to be a
30:43
leader because your decisions carry a lot of weight.
30:45
Yeah. Yeah, that might be another
30:49
thing we talk about later on just You know, burying up how
30:53
obligation fits tribe tribal across all the members, but how
30:57
certain members of the tribe that whatever their position is,
31:01
how much, how much higher it is, might be any discussion we get
31:06
into, but I think this is probably the highlight of the
31:10
conversation because I know you and I have both talked about it,
31:13
you more. So probably that I in that is
31:16
having ritual any sort of Whether it be the bloaters
31:24
sambal, we'll get into that whole thing.
31:26
But any sort of online ritual, right?
31:30
I think a lot of people again because they maybe think well
31:32
because we can't do it in person.
31:34
We just need to do it. You know, we just need to do
31:36
something virtually. So people can still experience
31:39
it. And what is that experience
31:41
really? Like, I think you're in my
31:43
opinions on it mirror each other, what I can tell?
31:47
Yes. Yeah.
31:48
My whole thing is, like, if you want to stream it.
31:51
Event and it's like a public event, you know, maybe like a
31:54
pagan Pride day or something like that where it's just wide
31:57
open and it's people can see it without being there.
32:01
That's one thing. When it comes to any sort of,
32:04
you know, spiritual type activity.
32:07
Any sort of ritual activity. Like that's where the camera
32:11
stops. Absolutely.
32:16
I can I completely agree with you on this.
32:19
I view the camera is a window to the outside world.
32:24
Like when I do my videos for my channel and everything.
32:27
This is a piece of my life that I am just sharing their to that
32:34
everything. This is out of the troll have
32:36
and anything can happen with it. And anybody can look in on it at
32:39
any time at any point and that's that.
32:43
I mean, that's why I don't film rituals at all.
32:45
I don't allow photography during my rituals.
32:47
I don't allow video during my rituals and allow audio during
32:49
my rituals because there doesn't need to be a window to the
32:52
outside. You know, when I established the
32:54
boundary around my original space.
32:56
I do not need a window between my Sacred Space that I've
33:01
established and the rest of the profane world because one that
33:05
puts a crack in the wall and things can go wrong to.
33:08
It's very disrespectful in the middle and in play and three
33:14
ivy, That's a very private and deeply personal thing, and
33:19
whether it's Tribal culture or horse culture, that's for you
33:24
guys are. That's, that's that's for my
33:26
home. I call my world, not for the
33:29
outside world. And yeah, it gets real, like,
33:35
I'll, for my channel. I did like a video on one of my
33:38
first backseat festivals at one point in time.
33:41
And then, I did another one, a little bit later on, for a
33:44
different festivals. It will, but it got kind of
33:47
difficult because a lot of my people are not care comfortable,
33:54
you know, it takes a special kind of person to be like, okay.
33:57
Yeah, I'm gonna get front of the camera.
33:58
Talk for everybody across the, you know, some odd thousand
34:01
subscribers, that may be viewing the channel.
34:05
They don't necessarily want to step in front of the camera for
34:07
that, which means I can't exactly take panoramic shots of
34:10
what's going on. Because people don't want to be
34:13
on camera, don't want to be on the internet, so, So I very
34:16
rapidly realized is I'm going through here talking about these
34:18
different things. It's like I can't really show
34:20
you guys what it is to be at my Festival because that's a deeply
34:24
personal thing. And while I would be okay with
34:26
showing certain elements of it. I still wouldn't personally with
34:33
ritual or anything like that. Bo me, I wouldn't have a problem
34:36
necessary showing people playing the games, but even that's
34:39
deeply personal to them and they didn't want to be on it.
34:42
So that's that's a thing virtual thing.
34:46
You can't do certain things virtually you just you just
34:48
can't. But anyway, I was that's a bit
34:51
more of a tangent than I think we're planning there.
34:52
But yes, so ultimately I don't think that the Integrity of
35:00
ritual that there'd be tribal, you know, blokes to the gods or
35:05
something or even alive and I say sambal, right.
35:10
But you know, I will talk a little bit about that but it's
35:12
like you keep the Integrity of those.
35:15
Those symbols are whole conversation.
35:17
Yeah, that's a whole other animal, but it's like you can't
35:20
maintain the Integrity of those things virtually, you know, so.
35:27
But I think a lot of people think that they can only, you
35:29
know, they can't attend this year so they can watch it
35:31
online. They're not getting the same
35:34
thing out of it. You're not.
35:38
I just kind of look at it. Very I shake my head a little
35:43
bit like not and I mean, ultimately speaking.
35:47
It's it's a year all your call kind of situation.
35:50
Yeah. Yeah, that's like you might
35:55
personally. It did.
35:59
It's definitely one of the things where I agree with you.
36:03
I think the Integrity of ritual is compromised by the
36:06
introduction of that outside window and that technological
36:09
element. How?
36:09
I don't even allow Electronics in my Sacred Space, for some of
36:13
the influence that it has on the flow of energy when we're
36:16
actually doing ritual, let alone, you know, what, camera to
36:19
the outside world. I don't know.
36:24
I mean for folks that are watching and you know, I'm sure
36:26
we'll see somewhere. On the comments.
36:29
Well, actually this that of the other, you know, they're going
36:31
to weigh in and but that we encourage that like, I
36:33
personally like to see what other people are experienced or
36:36
what other people's ideas are and does again like, you know,
36:39
your hall your call and that's saying that you're less lesser,
36:42
even or a bad even for allowing this sort of thing to happen or
36:45
whatever like that. That's no, no, that's not our
36:47
place. These are just ideas and
36:49
opinions being shared, but I think that one thing that The
36:59
the social distancing thing or not in this the the virtual
37:02
meeting and I think one thing that that can do is it can give
37:06
enough sense of connection with your people.
37:10
You know, like if I talk to you on the phone and I see your face
37:13
at the same time, it's almost like wow, there's Eric, you
37:16
know, it's been so long that we've actually seen each other,
37:18
but I can see him now. So it kind of feels a little bit
37:21
of that Gap. I think versus just you know,
37:24
typing messages or sending text messages or whatever.
37:27
I think there's some value to it.
37:28
I just don't think that it should be something that's used
37:32
to replace the true, meaning of tribal activity being together
37:37
having those that, that physicality to it and I
37:42
completely agree with you on that.
37:43
The the one thing that I've observed when it comes to like
37:46
on the subject of like Zoom calls or like video,
37:49
conferencing calls with relation to how it pertains to Modern
37:55
either Nuri. I I find that video.
37:58
Conferencing is very, very helpful with being able to
38:02
maintain connections because you can actually have some virtual
38:05
face-to-face interaction with people but I find it to be more
38:10
effective. Once fourth is already been
38:11
established. You can't really establish frith
38:14
over that but as an augmenting tool to help prevent the grass
38:18
from growing too tall to paraphrase the dhamma You get at
38:25
least maintain some of that connection to keep that palpable
38:31
to you and in your life. I don't think that you could
38:34
Forge New riff connections that way, but I do feel like it can
38:39
be used to augment what you already have in place.
38:43
The value for it to me is in the social cultural element of
38:50
things. And I think in that kind of It's
38:53
like with my tribe. I could do Skype calls with my
38:55
people and some connection is better than no connection.
39:00
And if you look at like are dwellings, we are our Deeds
39:08
action is better than in action. In this particular instance.
39:11
It's better to have virtual contact than no contact.
39:16
It's better to have physical contact than virtual contact,
39:19
but it's still better to have virtual contact then, no
39:22
contact. It is an Avenue to help kind of
39:25
keep things connected, but I would try and start a tribe or
39:29
establish something new and meaningful through this conduit.
39:32
I don't think the quality of what you get out of it.
39:35
Is there enough for that now? And I'm glad you brought that up
39:39
because that was actually something on my mind and I think
39:42
I ran away with it, talking about something else, but having
39:45
that frith built already or having that further established
39:48
having it, there past the, it has to be there before all these
39:51
other things can can Like you say, you know, you hit say, it's
39:56
that maintenance. Keeping the grass down a little
39:59
bit between between each other. But I fully agree that there has
40:04
to be that you had to have had something for it to build off
40:06
of. I think I didn't one thing
40:11
though that this pandemic the social distancing
40:14
self-quarantine shelter and places whatever various levels
40:17
of isolation that have come about because of this thing.
40:20
I think one really important thing for us as heathens to
40:27
focus on that this situation kind of really helped in a way
40:32
that force is the focus on our individual hard.
40:36
Cults are individual. Traditions the things that we do
40:41
with our immediate, you know, with our with our spouses
40:46
children families, people who live with that sort of thing.
40:50
It's really like it made us focused further or closer in
40:55
word. And if anybody hasn't taken
40:59
advantage of bettering yourself working on things yourself,
41:02
whether it be doing, more research studying something that
41:06
would be beneficial for you. Not just yourself, but for your
41:09
Collective, your tribe, your Kindred, maybe, you know, your
41:13
own solitary work. Eric.
41:14
You recently did a video about the, the solitary Heathen.
41:22
So folks that are looking into the to do stuff like that, check
41:27
out Eric's recent video. I'll annotate it and you guys
41:29
are going to see annotated cards throughout the video.
41:31
I'm sure you just click on them and then have it down to the
41:34
description to see that. But, you know, the isolation
41:38
the, the shelter in place, those sort of things that makes a
41:43
perfect opportunity. I think to focus on how we
41:47
better ourselves, how we build ourselves up individually, which
41:50
can then at luck and help build the the integrity and luck of
41:54
the tribe. I was curious.
41:57
What year if you gotten a chance to think about that sort of
42:00
thing at all, or I actually have and I'm not my opinion yours.
42:04
Yours a lot. In this particular instance, the
42:08
The pullback from the social element of things there
42:12
reorientation on home. Has really brought into Focus,
42:16
the importance of having a strong heart occult even read
42:23
begins at home. I'm a Grassroots hidenori kind
42:25
of guy, it's Hearth and then Clan and in tribe for me.
42:29
And so when things like this happen and it starts to shrink
42:34
your world, you know, the outer full community.
42:38
Is one of the first things that gets cut away when it comes time
42:40
to start bringing it in and protecting because of the whole,
42:44
you know, social distancing or whatever elements and it could
42:47
be anything. It doesn't necessarily have to
42:49
be the pandemic. It can be any kind of element
42:51
with regards to that, you end up with that outer ring, kind of
42:57
going away and shrinking down to the inner ring.
43:03
You end up with the then the tribe starting to go where you
43:09
have limited access to your tribe, that that starts to
43:14
become more of an issue. It can even get to a point where
43:16
Clan is more and more of an issue to get together with.
43:19
Like, I've got a grandparent who's in a nursing home right
43:22
now. And I haven't been able to see
43:24
her, like, six months because of how crank down, they have the
43:28
protocols with nursing homes. So Hearth cult articles, the
43:32
Sebastian, her cult is, you know, where it starts and where
43:36
it ends because it all comes back to Hearth cultivar else in
43:43
the world falls down around you. The Hearth is what you have, you
43:48
know, our Amelia, you know, Amelia was jumping out doing
43:53
some videos and some posts and stuff.
43:55
We'll have to use the posts. And yeah, well, I jokingly
43:58
throughout this hashtag in association with this essay that
44:01
she put out that you know, Hearth is where the Heathen re
44:03
is, and that that really kind of struck home for me when I did it
44:07
as a joke at first, and then I was like, no, that's that's
44:12
that's my thing. You know, Hearth is where the
44:15
even RI is. And that's, that's the thing
44:19
Hearth cult is so important because this is the time period
44:25
where you can be focusing on learning and growing as an
44:27
individual where you can focus on your home practice where you
44:30
can focus on how you do your Rituals how you view the world
44:34
and not get sucked up into the socialized element of, you know,
44:38
fitting into a tribal dynamic or fitting into greater local
44:42
Heathen Dynamic. You could focus on what you
44:44
believe and what you think and what your research shows, and
44:48
what, you know, your hall your call.
44:51
You have to have a strong Hall to make your call.
44:55
You need a strong Hearth, to be a meaningful member to a tribes.
45:03
And if you do not have a strong Hearth cult, then what are you
45:07
really bringing to that tribe? You know, you establish your
45:09
work that home and then you take it to the outside world.
45:14
So yeah, I absolutely 100% This is a time to focus on Hearth,
45:20
strengthen your hearts and then when tried can get back together
45:23
in full force, come, back stronger, not weaker.
45:27
Yeah, and that's, that's really something.
45:29
I think that could be exciting, right?
45:31
Because we could see, We can see a real, you know, kind of like a
45:36
nitrous blast of your frame coming out here soon eventually.
45:40
When the key say, the tribal thinking really kick off in full
45:42
force. Hopefully, at least because now
45:45
it's been a time where you know, and it's not just focused on on
45:48
your spirituality, right? Or you're but you're also no
45:51
morals. I think too because one
45:53
challenge that has come across from, from staying at home, more
45:59
than normal, than normal is the people who we use to interact.
46:02
With less because of our jobs. And I say folks who aren't like
46:09
Eric. You've you still had your day to
46:11
day job. I still work and what I work
46:13
from home, so I've been home or in any interactions with the
46:16
people who I had less time with before.
46:18
Now. I have all my time with and
46:21
that's changed, you know, like just personal space and dealing
46:25
with, you know, your spouse or your loved ones.
46:28
Whoever it may be just learning like relearning each other, and
46:31
it's like, there's Much more than just the spirituality of it
46:35
and being a better human, but just being bettering yourself as
46:39
an individual as a person. It all hits.
46:41
All you hit a point where it's like, you know, you're finally
46:46
at home from all of this stuff and you look at the other person
46:50
to go. Wow.
46:50
I did not realize just how disconnected we've gotten here
46:53
over the last little bit because if, you know, just stupidness
46:57
with the outside world, but the mundane life and job and all
47:00
this stuff sucking it away and it's like, We need to reconnect
47:04
and it's an opportunity to do so.
47:08
Yeah, hopefully you're not tearing each other's throats out
47:10
in the process. Yeah, that's a thing that
47:14
happens, you know, but yeah, I completely grab right there with
47:19
you. It's a it's a.
47:25
So, I think that you know, there's a lot of challenges that
47:29
have come across with you know, Being is being hidden, right
47:34
especially like, you know, he didn't focus on tribal societal
47:40
structure, you know, if there's a lot of challenges that have
47:43
come up nowadays with in this year, but there's also been a
47:49
lot of opportunity as well, which is what we've kind of
47:53
closed on right. Focus on ourselves to focus on
47:56
our Hearth. Because when it, when, when
47:58
anything else, where everything else falls apart?
48:02
Earth is where we come back to you and hearth is where it's at,
48:05
Hearth is where the Heathen re is, you know, which is a great
48:09
hashtag but it's a great summation of it all and let's
48:14
make that a thing folks. Get out there hashtag Hearth is
48:18
where they either is. I'm definitely for that.
48:22
We can Trend, you know, focus on your hearts focus on yourselves,
48:27
and then you will only be better set up to.
48:31
Go out and do that thing. If you are in an area, right,
48:33
where will this is? Really?
48:35
Nobody around? And I've I think we both Eric
48:38
and I both have heard from people.
48:40
Well, there's nothing in my area.
48:42
Okay, first of all, how are you looking, how hard are you
48:44
trying? And then if there really isn't,
48:47
what's stopping you from putting something in your area?
48:51
Because if you are looking for something in your area, then
48:53
chances are. There's other people who are
48:54
looking for something the same or similar, and they may be
48:58
feeling the same way and you may be the one And I can give them
49:04
something to find. So I think that it's I think
49:11
that it's a lot of opportunity here that we all can learn from,
49:15
you know, don't take advantage of the social media sites that
49:19
give you a false sense of community, use them for the
49:23
benefit of kind of doing that maintenance.
49:27
Keeping that connection between your folk but Don't be afraid to
49:32
get out there and you know, with with all your senses, you know,
49:37
safely and such. No stay connected with you
49:39
people and then ultimately keep that focus on your, on your
49:45
clan, on your hearth. Anything else you wanted to
49:52
edit? We've hit the most of it.
49:54
I mean, what are they talking about?
49:58
Some practical, just like some quick practical tips with
50:01
regards to Ritual during social distancing time or if you wanted
50:04
to cover that in different video, do it.
50:08
Well, okay. Yeah, we keep because we keep
50:11
dancing around the whole ensemble subject, you know.
50:14
Oh, yeah, you know because like the way I see it.
50:18
Look below. TC blow.
50:19
It is easy with social distancing.
50:20
You just spread out a little bit more in your Sacred Space.
50:23
If you use a bloat taine for your offering, you can come up
50:28
with ways for people to put offerings into a centralized
50:32
location and not have to have the contact not have, you know,
50:39
the, the close proximity. You can still do that with your
50:41
6-foot distancing, and all this. And then, of course, you can
50:45
make your offering, you can gather your blessing in a bowl
50:47
and Blow teen and sprinkle the people.
50:50
There's no cross contamination going on there.
50:52
You're not but not unless you're like sticking your hand in it
50:56
and then laying hands on me as you do with that, weird.
50:59
Yeah, blockchain is actually fairly socially distanced as far
51:04
as the dissemination of blessing when I so as far as I'm
51:07
concerned bloats a non-issue bloats easy to do and still
51:10
maintain social distancing. You can still wear masks while
51:13
you do it, if you feel that. Given the situation sambal, do
51:22
some bizarre different bag. And I have had people ask me how
51:27
to address sambal during a period of social distancing,
51:31
especially with the main concern of cross-contamination.
51:35
And this is, this is particularly dealing with the
51:39
modern sambal, the modern Paradigm for sambal, where it is
51:42
a shared horn, and three rounds, gods, and goddesses ancestors
51:47
and toast. In boasts, its historical.
51:50
Symbol is a little bit different than that.
51:52
Especially you can just some of the more Anglo-Saxon for the way
51:58
they go about things. There's their version of it
52:01
doesn't require like, shared horn or anything like that.
52:05
There are depending on your, your culture base.
52:09
There are ways to go about doing the shared horn and still
52:14
getting the symbolism of the well without necessarily
52:16
everybody drinking from the same.
52:17
Horn and obviously, you know, blowing any kind of protection
52:21
cross-contamination protections. You may have taken.
52:23
At that point. Largely, what we've always done.
52:28
Like, especially if we have somebody in the group, you can't
52:30
imbibing alcohol for any particular reason for the, be
52:33
for health reasons or reasons or whatever.
52:39
It may be. We've always permitted people to
52:43
have their own horn for someone and then we'll call it tapping
52:46
and tapping out. They will tap their horn or
52:50
their mug, to the main horn that's going around to kind of
52:54
transfer that energy and then to they'll drink from their own
52:58
horn and they'll kind of tap back.
52:59
The whole idea is that the words are what is going into the well
53:02
and you are still symbolically engaging in that ritual with one
53:06
another. So you're still sharing the
53:08
weird. You're still, you're still a
53:13
moment. I find it to be.
53:16
I sometimes Times, they can be less palpable.
53:19
But sometimes it's just as I ate depends on the scenario and how
53:22
seriously people are taking it. But if you're not all drinking
53:26
from the same horn, one of the things that you can do, as far
53:28
as symbol goes, is everybody can have their own, their own mug.
53:31
And as you go around and do the toasts and everything, you can
53:34
actually fill that mug from the offerings of everyone around a
53:39
little bit of their own drink, from their own mug, into the
53:41
horn, given as an offering, you're literally putting your
53:44
energies into that well, and then that horn just becomes A
53:48
receptacle as he goes around, you still maintain those
53:53
structure, you still maintain the sharing of frisbee sharing
53:57
beard in this moment, the exchanging of luck.
54:00
And then you use that, that offering maybe in the end and,
54:04
you know, usually we gift it back to the land whites.
54:07
When we're done, take it out to the local ritual spot that we
54:10
have set up and then that's, that offering is made, but you
54:13
can still in the same instance, you could, if you wanted to
54:17
Disseminate some of that back out to the people.
54:19
You can do the blockchain thing like you would do in bloat and
54:22
still make sure everybody's connected to that.
54:25
There are practical ways that you can approach this kind of
54:34
ritual thing just because it's not necessarily how it's been
54:36
done. Does it mean that mechanically
54:39
it's not still serving a similar purpose because you are the
54:43
whole thing. The whole thing about ritual is
54:45
what works, you know, the why is important?
54:47
Why do we do? Why do we do it this way?
54:48
What are we trying to get out of it?
54:50
What is the end mechanic that we're looking for?
54:52
We're looking to gather a weird into the same place.
54:54
Put our energies into the well and then share that amongst
54:58
ourselves. So you can go around in the
55:00
three rounds and load the well and then with the blow tane, you
55:03
know around or at least have all shared into that well, which is
55:06
the receptacle tribe. You're all pouring into the
55:09
tribe and that you are adding your luck to the tribal luck.
55:16
And then the tribal luck is going to disseminate our Alps
55:18
from the seat of tribe luck to the rest of the tribe anyway, so
55:21
there's not necessarily an absolute need to drink from a
55:24
shared horn. You can go about a couple of
55:28
different ways of circumventing that and still having some kind
55:31
of ritual effectiveness. Yeah, I think the nuances like
55:37
you're mentioning other be drinking from a shared horn, or
55:39
whether it be, which is how we've done it.
55:42
If you if you're more along like the Anglo-Saxon variety.
55:47
Where it's I think it's a centralized horn or centralized
55:50
receptacle and then everybody has their own individual things
55:56
to drink from the or you do like what Eric saying.
55:58
And, you know, which is a really neat suggestion.
56:00
I think is to have each member. Pick their peace or give their
56:07
notes, do their part of the symbol of ritual and then pour a
56:11
portion of their thing into the weld.
56:14
Like that's a really neat take on it.
56:16
And I think it all the ultimately like, said mechanics
56:18
of it, having really nuanced is maybe a little bit different.
56:22
It's ultimately still accomplishing the same thing.
56:25
Right? And essentially, it doesn't even
56:27
have to be the central. Receptacle doesn't even
56:28
necessarily have to be a horn. Well.
56:31
Yeah, it could be a bowl. It could be a be a Great bolt.
56:34
You can be. Yeah.
56:36
Anything that will catch and gather symbolically becomes the
56:38
well, and as long as you're maintaining that, I think you
56:42
still have Effectiveness, I mean, it's something you have to
56:44
experiment with dry and it's only through experimentation
56:47
that we learned what works. And what doesn't because I think
56:51
like you said, it's the, why is what it is.
56:53
It's, why are you doing it? I'm doing it.
56:55
Because that's how my great-great-great-great
56:59
great-great-great-great. Whoever did it.
57:02
Okay, but why are you doing it? you know, like where is where's
57:08
your reason? Will, you know, what is the
57:09
purpose behind it for you? And how is it working to
57:13
maintain and build the luck? Which is what it's all about for
57:16
tribe. I think that's really helpful.
57:21
I think that that can be something for a lot of folks out
57:24
here, may be wondering, what do I do now?
57:26
Or how do we do it or not? Really sure what to do.
57:29
Don't want to do anything bad, you know, that sort of thing of
57:31
those questions that come up in a lot of our minds.
57:33
This is think, I think it offers a lot of good.
57:36
Suggestions are good place. The kind of mull it over in your
57:41
head. Thanks for sharing.
57:50
All right. What else is this?
57:53
It is this is this cover it for us.
57:55
I think I think we're pretty much hit most of the points.
57:58
Yeah. Yeah, may I mean we've kind of
58:01
run the gamut. I'm having to run through that
58:02
list in my head of what we said. We were going to talk about it.
58:06
Yeah. Based on the list that I got.
58:08
It's that pretty much covers it. So I guess it really leaves
58:11
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