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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 3-12-25 with Doc, Suzi, and Bill · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to doctor crupis natural health ours. I am
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  Speaker 2: joined by Sissy and Bill. We're all on Skype. We've
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  Speaker 2: got our technical producer, mister Steve O'Brien in the background,
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  Speaker 2: and we are ready to go. It is March, well,
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  Speaker 2: Between him and Susie, this has turned out to be
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  Speaker 2: really good stuff. They have really worked and done a
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  Speaker 2: lot of great stuff. So we're glad all you guys
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  Speaker 2: are listening from the United States and all the other countries.
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  Speaker 2: We really appreciate you, all right, One thing I need
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  Speaker 2: to remind people that on our show, we do not
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  Speaker 2: say left and right. We say right and wrong, because
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  Speaker 2: that's just how it is. And we do not say
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  Speaker 2: conservative and liberal. It's common sense and just pure delirious
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  Speaker 2: and that's just the way we see it, all right.
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  Speaker 2: And that's about as far into politics as I care
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  Speaker 2: to go. Hopefully we don't have to go there very much.
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  Speaker 2: We've got Bill's weekly topic tonight, We've got Susie and
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  Speaker 2: her recipes, and we're going to talk a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about measles, mumps and rubella. And the reason that came
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  Speaker 2: up is our technical producer in the background mentioned that
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  Speaker 2: even though we talked about it a while back, it's
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  Speaker 2: become in the news a little more because every time
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  Speaker 2: they find a person in four hundred million with measles,
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  Speaker 2: we hear about it, and I heard about a case
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  Speaker 2: of a child dying of this. But they also admitted
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  Speaker 2: later that it was many complications of many other problems,
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  Speaker 2: and measles was just one of the things when the
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  Speaker 2: child died that it had, So that was really stretching.
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  Speaker 2: When you're trying to sell a vaccine now, I like
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  Speaker 2: to say, first off, if you decide to try any medicine,
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  Speaker 2: are pharmaceutical created drugs, are get a vaccine as they're
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  Speaker 2: so called. That's your choice. You have that right. If
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  Speaker 2: you call me up and say, Doc, do you recommend
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  Speaker 2: we get the vaccine, my answer is no. If you
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  Speaker 2: ask me should we be getting these boosters for that
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  Speaker 2: Corona stuff that went around, I would say no. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: you didn't get the first one, but if you did
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  Speaker 2: and you're asking about a booster, I would tell you
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  Speaker 2: stay away. You have to remember this stuff is man made.
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  Speaker 2: It is not supposed to be in your body. It
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  Speaker 2: is synthetic, lab made stuff that is not going to
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  Speaker 2: do good things for you. And a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: think that that's why we don't have measles and mumps
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  Speaker 2: and rubella in this country anymore. That's not the case.
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  Speaker 2: When we were kids, we all got measles mumps and
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  Speaker 2: we didn't call it. We didn't say much about rubella
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  Speaker 2: that was called German measles or three day measles, but
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  Speaker 2: it is rubella, and the momps is from a virus
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  Speaker 2: that sounds a lot like rubella, only it is Ruboulah
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  Speaker 2: with the you, if I remember correctly. But they're all viruses.
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  Speaker 2: They're not some horrible disease that does all that. They're
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  Speaker 2: viruses and they will come in and a virus needs
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  Speaker 2: a host, so it needs you, and our job is
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  Speaker 2: to make it inhospitable for that virus so it leaves. Now, theoretically,
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  Speaker 2: the body will respond to small amounts of anti gen
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  Speaker 2: type things that come upon it. And this is where
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  Speaker 2: the idea of a vaccine came in was, and probably
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  Speaker 2: very very far back in the very beginning, probably virus
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  Speaker 2: vaccines were a little more natural, and along the way
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  Speaker 2: they completely have become pharmaceutical and not good. But they
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  Speaker 2: used to take real virus, real bacteria, real whatever they
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  Speaker 2: were dealing with, and expose the body to it just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, and that gave your body a chance
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  Speaker 2: not to be overwhelmed, but to build up immune's response
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  Speaker 2: and have the troops ready to recognize the next time
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  Speaker 2: that enemy does come around. So when we were kids,
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  Speaker 2: we got measles, we got momps, we got chicken pox.
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  Speaker 2: We got it all and we didn't think much about
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  Speaker 2: it and we didn't have to get them damn shots,
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  Speaker 2: thank god. But I had enough in my life, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it caused a lot of the problems that
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  Speaker 2: I deal with. But I am not happy with the
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  Speaker 2: way they try to convince people that you should be
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  Speaker 2: getting this shot. There was somebody in the NIH the
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  Speaker 2: National Institute of Health under the Biden administration, and they
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  Speaker 2: found out that they were stock owners in some of
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  Speaker 2: the vaccines that they were pushing, and the same with
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  Speaker 2: the World Health Organization and all these other CDC and
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  Speaker 2: all them. There's money to be made if you have
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  Speaker 2: no conscience. Well, I still have a conscience. I can't
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  Speaker 2: get rid of it. And so I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 2: you anytime you ask, you have the right to get
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  Speaker 2: the shot if you choose, so, you have the right
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  Speaker 2: to try anything you want to try when you're sick.
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  Speaker 2: That you're right. But I will gladly tell you and
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  Speaker 2: advise you on what I think are good choices versus
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  Speaker 2: bad ones. You know, they try to talk about people
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  Speaker 2: are living longer because of these medications from the pharmacy,
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  Speaker 2: and that's not true. In the old days, grandma and
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  Speaker 2: grandpa and great grandma and grandpa, they all worked the
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  Speaker 2: farm of the ranch, and they didn't have time to
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  Speaker 2: run into town or some medical facility in the next
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  Speaker 2: town and say hey, I'm a hundred and I'm still alive.
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  Speaker 2: They were busy working, and they did natural good things,
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  Speaker 2: and they put up their own food for winter, and
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  Speaker 2: they did their own slaughtering, and they just knew how
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  Speaker 2: to do things. And like today, I've seen many times
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  Speaker 2: where there was a case of somebody that died of
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  Speaker 2: lung cancer never smoked the day in their life. And
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  Speaker 2: we've seen cases where people smoked till some of them
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  Speaker 2: into their hundreds and never got cancer. So you cannot
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  Speaker 2: say a particular medicine is far anything, because you never
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  Speaker 2: know if it's gonna work or not. Especially the pharmaceutical stuff.
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  Speaker 2: They're designed to cover things up and make you a
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  Speaker 2: long term customer. But even with natural stuff, we don't
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  Speaker 2: know which one your body wants. I had somebody just
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  Speaker 2: recently say, well, I'm taking this because I was told
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  Speaker 2: it kills cancer. Well, what they were talking about did
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  Speaker 2: not have in any medical world. I've ever dealt with
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  Speaker 2: a cancer underneath its name. It was good for blood
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  Speaker 2: sugar and things like that, but it had nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with cancer that I've ever seen. But that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean it might not help somebody. So everybody's different. Everybody's
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  Speaker 2: going to respond different. Some people a little might do
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  Speaker 2: a miracle. Some people takes a whole lot of something,
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  Speaker 2: and you experiment and you troubleshooting. Feedback from the patients
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  Speaker 2: is very important. So to make it real simple, the
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  Speaker 2: MMR vaccine is for measles, mumps, and rubella. They all
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  Speaker 2: come from a virus. I think the average for the rebella.
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  Speaker 2: They used to call it the three day measles, German
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  Speaker 2: measles mumps. I'd don't remember ten days, a couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks measles, the same thing. Again, everybody's a little different,
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  Speaker 2: but all of us got that, and all of us
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  Speaker 2: that our immune system was not already handicapped, got through
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  Speaker 2: it just fine. One thing that I've seeing a lot
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  Speaker 2: in my probably about twenty six years now, is a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times people don't tell people so, and so
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  Speaker 2: they'll say he die to this, But what was going
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  Speaker 2: on was a ton of medications that had his immune
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  Speaker 2: system so destroyed his body couldn't fight back. So some
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  Speaker 2: little thing come along and they blame that, but the
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  Speaker 2: body was already you know, the wagons had circled and
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  Speaker 2: there wasn't much hope. So you can't believe a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the things you hear in the media and even
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  Speaker 2: from people, because a lot of times they forget to
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  Speaker 2: tell you the whole story. So anyway, my advice stay
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  Speaker 2: away from vaccines, stay away from the pharmacy. That's my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: But if you choose to do that, I will not
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  Speaker 2: think badly of you. I feel sorry that you've gone
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  Speaker 2: down that road and they lied to you, and I
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  Speaker 2: worry of what kind of consequences you're going to run
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  Speaker 2: into from that stuff. But you have the right to
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  Speaker 2: make those choices, and nobody should ever stop you. But
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: if you ask for my opinion, I'm going to do
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  Speaker 2: my best to give you an honest, truthful answer or
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  Speaker 2: what I would do and what I would recommend for
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  Speaker 2: any patient, and then you make your own decision.
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  Speaker 6: Susy, I don't remember when I was a kid any
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  Speaker 6: parent ever panicking over measles or chicken pox or momps.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it was a pain in the butt.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I can remember, you know, when my kids
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  Speaker 6: had chicken pox.
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  Speaker 7: And.
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  Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing was keeping them from from
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  Speaker 6: scratching constantly. But you know, we did what we could do.
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  Speaker 6: I think at the time there was they were really
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  Speaker 6: pushing like some sort of an oatmeal bath that was
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  Speaker 6: supposed to soothe the skin, and you know, it was
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  Speaker 6: just normal childhood illnesses. No one panicked. I do remember
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  Speaker 6: people panicking about the red measles and saying, you know,
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  Speaker 6: if a pregnant woman were to get them, it was
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  Speaker 6: bad news. But that's all I can remember, and I
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  Speaker 6: don't even know if that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the only panic I would have seen
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  Speaker 2: back then was the poor parents trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: how to take care of the kid because they had
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  Speaker 2: to go to work. Most of them. My bomb worked,
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  Speaker 2: and so if we got sick, that was not a
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  Speaker 2: good thing. Fortunately for us, my grandparents were there and
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: they would take care of us if we got sick,
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  Speaker 2: and that was that was pretty special. So but that
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  Speaker 2: was the only panic I ever saw people. People just
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  Speaker 2: didn't panic unless you were already deathly sick was something
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  Speaker 2: and then one more thing was not good. Bill, how about.
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  Speaker 7: You yeah, it's kind of the same thing with let's
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  Speaker 7: usually say it was just part of that part of
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  Speaker 7: the one of the rights of passage of being a
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  Speaker 7: child is that we got we got the momps, we
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  Speaker 7: got the measles. Then we went on and and nobody
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  Speaker 7: got all worked up about it. You know, as I
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  Speaker 7: was saying a little earlier, I think that a lot
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  Speaker 7: a lot of them misinformation that we're getting from the
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  Speaker 7: medical community about this is them trying to take a
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  Speaker 7: little heat off their their handling of this covid uh
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  Speaker 7: show called pandemic. They give us something else to worry about.
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  Speaker 7: We won't think about that anymore. But these kinds of
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  Speaker 7: childhood things, it's just we're part of growing up, and
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  Speaker 7: nobody thought of just a whole lot about it. It
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  Speaker 7: was yeah, you know then go I just yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: think you're right. It's just about selling selling the vaccines.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's like now they will tell you
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  Speaker 2: that chicken pox is in you forever and it never
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  Speaker 2: goes away, So you better get all these shots, and
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  Speaker 2: most importantly, you better get the one for shingles because
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  Speaker 2: they're related. And I don't buy that. I've seen many
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  Speaker 2: people who we treated and of course, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: can't say that anything worked or it was far anything,
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  Speaker 2: because the medical world out there goes nuts. But I've
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  Speaker 2: seen a lot of miracles and we never seen things
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  Speaker 2: come back ever, So I believe that you can kill
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  Speaker 2: those viruses and they stay gone, especially things like herpes
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  Speaker 2: and shingles. I've seen that where people used to have
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  Speaker 2: a problem and we did some things, and I guess
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  Speaker 2: some miracles happened and it never came around again. Herpes
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: was one for a lot of people, and I mean
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  Speaker 2: probably everybody you know has some form of herpes, which
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: is the simplex one and two stuff, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times it would show up on their lips around
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: their mouth, very embarrassing, and it would be a recurrent
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: thing because nobody had ever treated it. They'd given them
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: stuff from the pharmacy, but that was a mask at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, and that was the end of that. But
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  Speaker 2: I've seen things work that we aren't allowed to say.
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  Speaker 2: We could treat you with this, or this works, but
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: let's try this, and then we see in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of miracles and things never came back, and people were
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  Speaker 2: very grateful because they'd been told that they're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to live with this forever, and it just doesn't work
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  Speaker 2: that way. Viruses, in my opinion, do not stay forever.
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  Speaker 2: You can make it where the host is not a
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  Speaker 2: good host, and they'll peck their suitcase and leave, and
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  Speaker 2: that's just fine with me. I love watching people get better,
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  Speaker 2: and you know it's funny. I enjoy seeing happy people,
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  Speaker 2: healthy people. I hate seeing anybody animals are, people get hurt.
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  Speaker 2: I just just doesn't set well. It didn't bother me
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  Speaker 2: so much when I was a lot younger, but I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: guess you grow much more compassionate with life's experiences. But
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  Speaker 2: I truly love seeing happy. I love families having a
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  Speaker 2: good time, a picnic, camping out, fishing, barbecue in the backyard.
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  Speaker 2: I just love that kind of stuff. I hate when
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: we see on the news where they had something like
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  Speaker 2: that it ended up in a shooting or a stabbing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, how sad, how did we degenerate that far?
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  Speaker 2: But I love happiness, I love good things, and I
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  Speaker 2: love healthy people. And it's fun when you see somebody
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: get well that never thought they could get well because
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: they were told this stays with you forever, and they're
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: really pushing. Like you said, Bill about the money. They're
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: pushing hard to get people to believe things don't go away.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And you got to have these shots, and you need
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a flu shot every year, and then when the Corona
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: came along, you need about fifty of them. I'll never
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: forget Joe Biden. I don't know if he was just
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: not aware lying to us or he had been lied to,
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  Speaker 2: but he came on national TV and he scolded us
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  Speaker 2: and said us, people that didn't get the Corona vaccine,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: we were the problem. And I'll never forget. He said,
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  Speaker 2: if you get the shot, you won't be getting sick.
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  Speaker 2: And Joe got sick at least five times that they
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: told us about. And I just thought that was just
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: punishment for a man that lectured us. You know, he
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: wasn't even good at being a politician. What's he doing
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  Speaker 2: trying to talk to me like he's a doctor? Shame
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  Speaker 2: on him? So anything else is he? I?
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  Speaker 6: You know, there's different factions of people all over Facebook,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: and there's the rabbid, you know, artificial supplement people and
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: you can't teach them anything, you know, the ones that
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  Speaker 6: brag I'm doing fine. I take two thousand milligrams of
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  Speaker 6: vitamin C so that same rabbit group is saying that
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  Speaker 6: a vitamin A deficiency is the reason for measles. So
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what to think.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you already knew what to think. You knew they
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  Speaker 2: were crazier. You wouldn't even have brought it up. You
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  Speaker 2: might be deficient in some vitamin, but if it was
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  Speaker 2: only vitamin A, nobody would probably ever get a virus
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: like measles, because vitamin A is and a lot of things.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: One of the things standard process has. We have cod
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: liver oil and that's got vitamin A and vitamin D
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: which des actually a hormone. I don't know why they
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: just don't change it to that. But vitamin A isn't
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of things that's in carrots. You'll see that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: They'll say, what's that? Well, I thought I heard. You'll
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: hear them, Yeah, you'll hear them say beta carotine. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: beta carotene is part of vitamin A. It is not
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: vitamin A. So you have to be careful with what
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: people sell. And, like you said, Susie, selling a lot
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: of junk vitamins and people think it's the answer. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: what happens people forget this and we're going to go
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: over it. Again one more time, probably many more times
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: in the future. When you take over the counter stuff,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: things you bought on the internet, things that you think
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: are good, and there's a big sales push. And one
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of the things that you see a lot on social
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: media is watch this video click the link below, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: then about two days later, they're going to tell you, oh,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: we're selling this product, and here's the name of it,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: here's where you can get it. Well, when you take
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: synthetic vitamins and fractionated vitamins, they steal from your body
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to complete the metabolic process so your body can get
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: rid of them. So you might be taking two thousand
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: milligrams of a scorbic acid that's called vitamin C. And
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a scorbic acid does exist naturally in vitamin C, but
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: it's not vitamin C. And when you see two thousand milligrams,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: that usually came from a genetically modified corn, and the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: government lets them call it vitamin C. But it will
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: steal from your body and all of a sudden you'll
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: start feeling really bad. And one of the reasons you
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: feel really bad is the adrenal glands you is the
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: most vitamin sea of anything in your body. So you
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: deplete your body of vitamin C, and now you're sicker
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: than you were in the beginning. I used to get
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of patients years ago from a doctor here
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: in town, and they would tell me that in the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: very beginning, I felt really good, and then I start
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: feeling worse than I was in the beginning when I
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: went to that doctor. So what I had explained to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: him was, in the beginning, you had something going on.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: And when you start taking anything synthetic, fractionated, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: junk kind of stuff, there's a natural euphoria in the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: very beginning as it floods your body system, and then
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: pretty soon the body said, wait a minute, you guys
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: aren't natural. You don't belong here. So it will steal
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: from its reserves to get rid of that item that
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: doesn't belong there and complete that metabolic process. So pretty
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: soon the things you were taking that you thought you
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: were deficient in, you've now made yourself really deficient and
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you are struggling and suffering. And then I was lucky.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: They'd come to me with a bag and they'd say,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I'm spending four hundred dollars a month. That was a
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: magic number back in those days. And we wouldn't have
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to spend anywhere near that. But we start giving them
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: good natural things, and they were back to healthiest could be.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, pretty soon I don't need to see
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: them very much. And I remember a patient telling me, well,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: you never should have told me about this, because now
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I don't have to come see you very often. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I said, well, that's my job. My job is to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: make it where I don't have to see you very often.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And if I'm doing my job, well, we'll see each
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: other the rest of our lives, off and on, but
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I won't need to see you all the time, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you won't need to be taking a lot of things
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and spending a fortune. And once you get your medicine
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: cabinet at home stocked up pretty good, you're in good shape.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: You get sick, call me up and I'll tell you
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: what to try. And many patients around the country and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: up in Vancouver, Canada also have called me before and said, hey,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: what do I do? And then I'll say, well, what
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: do you got on your show? What have you stocked up?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: They'll tell me, and sometimes they need to order some
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: sometimes they don't, and that works really well, and people
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: get healthy again. So it's very rewarding, Bill anything else.
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, how long you were you were talking about the
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: herpes one and two and childhood disorders. I remember in
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: grade school, like everybody got we called them cold soares,
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: you know, and they'd last a few days and they
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: go away. But usually in the fall and maybe in
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: the spring, when the seasons changed and the people's stress
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: levels fluctuate, they would they would anybody again. It was
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: just something that was It's just part of it all,
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: and we didn't think anything anything about it. It was just, uh,
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: I can't all of a growing up. It was not
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: a not a big deal, but they sure can make
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: almost anything a big deal anymore.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You're right, and thank you for bringing that up, Sham
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and me forgetting about the stress. The stress is when
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of these things happen, and the virus is
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: very very quick to see you're having a rough time
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: and attack and shingles and uh, chicken pox and herpes.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And that's why I said, I don't think I've ever
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: met anybody that hasn't had a fever, blister or sore that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, herbies is like it's just there. Everybody's been exposed.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: It's like breathing the air and you can't help it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So I used to tell people, if you go to
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the hospital, they give you an immediate dose of staff infection.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And boy, I treated a lot of staff infections over
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the years. People would go visit somebody at the hospital
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and get a staff infection. People would go maybe for
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: an emergency thing, and end up getting admitted and they
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: come home with a staff infection. So a lot of
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: stuff going on. Susy, I see our date magically changed,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: so I appreciate you. You're quick. I'll still been trying
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to figure out how to get to it. Anyway, we
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: are at break time, I think, ladies and gentlemen, this
• 31:02
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  Speaker 2: the medical world, which is heavily controlled by the pharma
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  Speaker 2: have to tell people I would try this and maybe
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  Speaker 2: that one maybe one treatment on the physical side in
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  Speaker 2: want that, you want them to be coming back. No,
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  Speaker 2: people right. And a very smart doctor told me one time.
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  Speaker 2: He said, the idea is you get a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of their money for the rest of their lives instead
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  Speaker 2: of trying to beat them up like the pharmaceuticals I
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  Speaker 2: and their long life patients. And you know, I'll get
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: people that call me that I haven't heard from in years,
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  Speaker 2: and he since passed, and then we were on something else,
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  Speaker 2: Steve O'Brien a few times, and so people hear you
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  Speaker 2: in all these different formats and they remember you. I
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  Speaker 2: had a gentleman call me from North Carolina a few
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  Speaker 2: months back and he said, you might not remember me,
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  Speaker 2: but I remember when you were on the radio with
• 37:08
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  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I remember yet, thanks for calling, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I said, you remembered me. And it's just wonderful. You
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: get to see people get better. They like that they
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: feel comfortable and that you're not trying to nickel and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: diamond to death or push them to take products. I
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: talked to a gentleman today who somebody else contacted me
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and said, so and so and so and so have
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: got some issues, but they went the pharmaceutical route. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the person said to me, I don't know why they
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: didn't call you. Well, he must have called one of them,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: because I got a call after that, and I just
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: told him, I don't know why you guys didn't call me.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And one of the things he said, well, we thought
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you might be too busy and I said, I'm not
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: too busy to take care of anybody, especially old friends.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: And I said, but I'm not in sales and I'm
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: not gonna solicit. If you need my help, you let
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: me know and I'll be glad to help you. So
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. That was a conversation today. And
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: it always makes me sad when I find out some
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: very bad things happened when I maybe could have helped
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: a lot. And we never know how much we can
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: help until we try. But it sure beats letting them
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: cut on you or take something out. You know, we
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: don't have a lot of spare parts, but they sure
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: act like you do. I love. There was a doctor
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: that told this lady and she had gone to the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: hospital because she thought she was having appendicitis attack or
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a gall She didn't know, she just knew she was
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: in a lot of pain. And I went in to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: visit the next day and I'm sitting there and I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: wasn't dressed in my doctor scrubs at that time. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: would think it was a holiday or weekend or something.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there and he walks in and it
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: turned out that her gallbladder had given her the fits
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: and he walks in the room and he says, I'm
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: so and so I'm the surgeon. I'll be removing your gallbladder.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: It needs to come out as soon as possible. They
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: don't get better, and turned around and walked out the door.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: He didn't let her ask questions, he didn't stick around
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: for nothing, just made it matter of factually. And back then,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: this has been a long time ago. It was five
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars for the surgeon's part to take out the gallbladder.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: And they didn't tell people that. Guess what. The gallbladder's
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: pretty important. It takes mile from the liver and it
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: concentrates it and it meters it out when you eat
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: fat of any kind. Very important and you're going to
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: be screwed up forever without it. But they didn't tell them,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and it needs to come out. They don't get better. Well,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I'm glad to say that. The patient asked me, They
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: said what do I do? And I said, I can't
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: tell you what to do, but if you want my help,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I'll give it. And they said yes. So we treated
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: their gallbladder. That was fifteen years ago and they've never
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: had to have it out. So and the main thing
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: is to do a little things along the way, like diaplex,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: wonderful for digestion and the liver, the gallbladder, the spleen,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the pancreas, the kidneys, everybody, some I guess, the digestive
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: enzymes are all involved in diaplex. This is a good
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: place to do a little bit of all the time.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So that was a really cool story for me, though,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: because after watching him come in and he had the
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: bedside manner of a tank, it was just amazing. And
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the poor person was scared to death anyway, and they'd
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: been in terrible pain and they didn't know what to do,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and as it turned out, they got well and did
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: just fine. So I was very happy for that. But
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: you never know, you know, every time somebody chooses me,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I always pray that I'm going to be the one
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: to help them, you know, because I don't know. I'm
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: going to do everything I know how to do. As
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: many of you know, I have a beloved family member
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: right now that had a little ponting stroke. That's a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: minor stroke the whole left side from head to toe.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Numbness and tingling and a loss of function. Not not
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: so terrible, but it's definitely a problem, and we've been
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: doing everything I can think of, and I think because
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: we jumped on it so quick that we headed it
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: off where it could have been a lot worse. And
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I pray every day that it's going to break through
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and everything's going to be okay. I've done laser on
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the on the back there above below the skull line
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: where the pon the ponds is inside there and it
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: connects to the nervous system and the nerves cross there.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: So if you have a small stroke on the left
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: side of your pon ponds, what we call ponting, then
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the right side is going to have a problem. And
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: if you have a problem on the right side, the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: left side, and that's what happened to them. When I
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: saw the MRI, you could see a little damage spot
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: on the right side of the ponds, and they have
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a problem on the left side because that's where the
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: nerves cross when they connect to the nervous system. So
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: we're dealing with that. And this is another case where
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I offered to take them to anybody they wanted to see,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: including the emergency room, and they said, no, I want
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: you to take care of me. I don't want to
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: go through that. I don't want what they do to you.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not going okay, because you have that right. And
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: you know, when something like that happens, you feel helpless
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and you want, please, God, let me figure this out,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you know. So that's what I'm doing, and we're working
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: on it, and I sometimes I think we've made a
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: little bit of progress, but I don't say much because
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want to cause any problems or you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of emotional stuff going on with this.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: But when all of a sudden, the whole left side
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of your body does this, it's scary. And thank god
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: we got on it quick because we didn't have any
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: speech problems or anything like that. So I am very
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: grateful for that. But I am always learning. Most of
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the time, I feel really stupid, and I just keep trying.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I had class last night, a very very good continuing
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: education class. Some of them I don't like, but this
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: was one about dealing with inflammation and the body's immune
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: system and especially how it fects the nervous system and
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the spine. And the doctor that's teaching he just fabulous.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: He's been at this forty plus years, and this man
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: knows this stuff, So I learned something from him every
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: time I take a class from him, and I've taken
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: a lot because I get lucky and I find where
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: he's got a class that I can take, and it
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: works good through this continuing education company that I use.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: The only problem is the class that start at seven
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: o'clock at night, and by then I'm tired. I don't
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: want to mess with that stuff, but I have to
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: every year. So anyway, enough rambling on me. Is he
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: anything on anything I've said? Oh?
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm trying to always try to pre think what
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: listeners might be thinking. So, if you're like me and
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: you did have your ball bladder removed, is there anything
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: beyond diaplex that you suggest for you know, metabolizing your
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: processing fats.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, Cola Cal, I think you and I talked about
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: this a long time ago before you got sick with
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the Corona crop. But Cola Cal has bile salts and
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: it it is a good thing to take if you
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: don't have your gallbladder anymore. In fact, let me pull
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: out my book here, Cola caol uh indications, fat intolerance, alcoholics,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: soool constipation, ball absorption problems, fat slab of items, not
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: being absorbed coally. Uh let's see here. Yeah, excessive appetite,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: hot gallbladder, are having your gallbladder removed. And what it
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: is is colocol has got the bile deficient for the
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: bile deficient patient, it's got the salts that your gallbladder
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: would have made, because once you lose a gall bladder,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and I apologize, Susie, We've had so many things come
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: down your highway that I forgot about that one. But
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: that's something that you need to do on a pretty
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: regular basis and it may solve a lot of other
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: problems because the gall bladder is very important. That's like
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: they try to tell people the appendix wasn't important, And
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I truly believe the appendix is there at the very
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: start of where the stomach empties into the intestines to
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: meter out things to fight bacteria and bad guys, and
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: if it gets inflamed to swollen, they take it out
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: like tonsil's and a heartbeat. But I don't think that's
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: a good idea. So yeah, if you've got and I'm
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: so glad you looked at that from what you think
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the patients, because I wasn't even thinking that way. My
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: simple mind miss that. But yeah, if you've had your
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: gallblader taken out, and you're gonna have a lot of
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: problems with food because the body's looking to meter out
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: bile salts from the the gallbladder that are concentrated from
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the liver making bile, and it's not there, and so
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: you could have pains. You could have a lot of
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: problems in your digestion because you don't have one of
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the immediate ingredients. Now because the gallbladder and the tonsils
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: and a lot of things are glands. Maybe some of
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: it regenerates enough so we don't suffer as bad. But
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: everybody I've ever dealt with that had one out had
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: some level of something going on, and it could be
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot. It's like Susie cooking in the kitchen.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: She gets all these wonderful ingredients in the pot, like
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: your stomach and her most important ingredient that gives it
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: its distinctive flavor. She's out of and it's just not
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: going to be the same. And that's what happens with
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: your body. You don't you don't meet her out the bile,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: you don't break down the fat properly, and digestions already
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit in trouble, so anything else, Susie, No,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: that's it, Bill, how about you.
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: Oh that's so yeah, I says about Remember my uh,
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: I was a kid. My aunt on my dad's side
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: had had some kind of gold ladder, thinking yep, now
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: it went, and she just had trouble with the rest of
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: her life with it. That was that was just such
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: an ordinary seizure that nobody thought a whole lot about it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: It wouldn't make any problems. Of course, it didn't make
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: any problems for the folks that still had their goal better,
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: but for the folks that hadn't taken out, they had problems.
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: She was not now. She never was in uh, really
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: good health for the rest of her life, which wasn't
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: too much long aver to to rush lugger after that.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: But it was it was just a very standard thing.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: Like you said with the appendix. No, as long as
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: thereon they're taking taking someone else out, they'll take that out. Yeah,
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: just because they don't know what it does. They figure
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: it doesn't do anything any mighty as longer rid of it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. And one of the things about Cola
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: cal it's also got colizontal root which is very good
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: for the blood supply your vascular system and in case
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: you've had hamorrhoi ser vericos veins, that's pretty important. So
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: it's a good thing that they put that kind of
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: stuff in there. But the main symptoms that you need
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: cola col would be a light color stool and the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: inability to break down the fats. You have an intolerance
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: of fat when you eat, and you would know because
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: if there's fat in the diet, it's going to cause
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: you a lot of problems. And some people, what's that?
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: So there is something else for having that surgery that
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: most people don't think about. And eighty percent I think
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: that's the statistics, and I haven't checked them in a
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: while because I don't want to. Eighty percent of people
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: who undergo surgery end up with adhesions. Twenty percent of
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: people it's life altering. So that's just another side effect,
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: not necessarily just called ladder removal, but surgery. And that's
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: what happened to me.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in that well. Yeah, And unfortunately, in
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Sissy's case, they put in a zipper because they figured
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: they were coming back as often as they could get
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: away with it, and the poor girl has suffered terribly
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: because of it. And you know, unless you've had a
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: bunch of surgeries, you can't even relate to the scar
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: tissue and the damage that it does to your body.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm always ashamed when people make so much money
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: doing these surgeries and they got to fill them ers
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: in them hospital beds, that they tell people all kinds
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: of stuff they shouldn't tell them. When that surgeon told
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: that lady that her gallbladder need to come out and
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: don't get better, and just I mean, he was he
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: was cold as ice. And here's a patient that was
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: scared to death. And if I wouldn't have been in there,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: she'd have probably been crying because he horrified her. But
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: as soon as he walked out of the room, she
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: had a whole bunch of questions for me. And luckily,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: like I said, we been at least fifteen years. There
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: was one time she got a hold of me and said,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I'm having a similar pain that I had a long
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: time ago. And luckily I had plenty of stuff in
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: stock and we hit it quick, and the dioplex was
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: one of the most important things. But she still got
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: the gallbladder, so thank God for that. But Yeah, that's
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that's a good point. Is because a lot of people
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: don't realize, you don't realize what might happen as a
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: sideline incident from the surgery. They said they went in
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: to do this, and they're always we have to go
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: in and do this, and most of the time there's
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: another option before I do.
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: Something.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: That The thing that takes me off is they'll tell
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: you everything to scare you, but they will withhold the truth.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: The term informed consent has become very popular, you know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: over the last you know, four years or so because
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: of the job. You know, people demanding informed consent. You know,
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: a doctor pushing some sort of a vaccine, Well let
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: me see the insert that comes with that particular batch.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: Oh well we don't have that. So on surgery they
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: don't provide informed to consent because most people don't know
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: exactly what to ask, or they might say, you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: could there be any complications or side effects of this?
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: And well, you know, loss of blood is always possible,
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: anesthesia is always risky, But they don't say you've got
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: eighty percent chance of developing life altering that's with all
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: caps adhesion scar tissue internal meaning your insides are wrapped
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: up in this crap, meaning you bloat, you have horrible pain,
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: that they don't tell people that, and it just ticks
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: me off, you know, it cracks me up that doctors
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: like you are not allowed to say this will heal you,
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: but doctors like them won't tell you the truth.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and it's sad, and a lot of
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: people have suffered like you needlessly if they'd just been
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: told the truth, just like telling that lady about the gallbladder.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: That was a terrible thing and a horrible way to
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: handle it. And I wonder sometimes these surgeons, you know,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: we all go to medical school, and medical school's pretty
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: much the same thing, no matter what kind of doctor,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: until you get to your specialty, and everybody's in the
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: old days, they did we actually cut open the bodies
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: and you worked on a body cadavers what they called it,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: and you've seen all that. But you got to wonder,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: when a guy decides he wants to be a surgeon,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: did he not learn the function of these things? The
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: only thing he learned was how to do work in
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: an emergency room, what medication to prescribe, and how to
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: cut something out and seal them back.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: Up.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: You have to wonder a little bit because they don't
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: talk about that stuff, you know, him telling that lady,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: they don't get any better. That's terrible, and I'm sure
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Susie looking back, there's a lot of things now that
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: you know that you know they were wrong and they
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: didn't tell you the truth? Are you to never let
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: them do what they did? But you didn't know back then,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: so you're at their mercy bill anything.
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you're really right about they're limiting the amount of
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: information they to give you. Again, it's because they our
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: doctors and they know and who are we to question
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: them or even even understand what it is you're doing
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: or have any choice about what they're going to do
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: with Oh, it's an arrogance that I've always found not
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: really amusing but very present.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, you know, it breaks my heart. There's
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: been times where SUSY's suffered so much because of what
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: they did and they just never told her the truth.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: She couldn't make good decisions because they had her when
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: she was scared and a lot of pain, and you
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: trust them, you want to believe them, but unfortunately for
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, it's all about the almighty dollar.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Our good buddy Steve O'Brien there in the background, always
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: likes to say they've got an agenda, and the agenda
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: is money, and they want yours, and that's what it's
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: all about. I never could have got rich, and I
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: never will. But I don't do much in the way
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: of seeing patience anymore. But my philosophy was to try
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to treat you like I wanted to be treated, and
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: help people when they're scared and vulnerable make good decisions
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: because they'll ask you what should I do. And I
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: had so many patients come to me with disk problems,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: bulging disc herniated disk make it very scary, and tell
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: you need surgery, and then I get a hold of them,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: and I've been blessed with some techniques that just work,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: and some nutritional things on the inside that just heal.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And I've saved a lot of people from the knife
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: that were told no way, but sometimes people want that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I had somebody in my own family that asked my opinion,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: asked me to overnight medications to them, and then shopped
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: around and talked to five more doctors besides me until
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: they found one that agreed to cut on them. And
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: after that it was terrible what they did. It was
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: on their throat, and after the surgery, the throat responded
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: by growing a softball sized thing on the outside of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: the neck. It did not like. But they they shopped
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: around and they ignored me. One of the family members
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: told me all the products that you overnighted were still
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: sitting on the shelf and had never been even taken
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: out of the boxes.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: You know, there's what I don't even recall that we've
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: ever talked about. And I know we're at break and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe we can talk about it because my
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: recipes kind of short, We're going to have time after that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: But you know, when you go into these what I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: call establishment doctors or or my other term is pharmaceutically trained,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: you fill out, especially as a new patient, you fill
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: out all of this paperwork and you're like, yeah, Ali,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: and they want to know all your family history. You know,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: they want to know what your parents died of if
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: they're dead. They want to know what conditions your parents had,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: or even grandparents. Some of them will go back that far.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: And I think that they're fishing. I think they're looking
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: for things that they can scare you with and say, well,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: it's this genetic you're going to end up with, you
• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, because just because your parents had something
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean you will. And they really love to play
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: that card, so scare people and make lots of money.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: But you can't have a conscience if you do that.
• 1:02:16
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  Speaker 7: Brown. Kind of a uh, offshoot of something that came
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  Speaker 7: up a couple of weeks ago on a show, and uh,
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  Speaker 7: it kind of got me to thinking about a couple
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: of things that all kind of hopefully tied together. We're
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: talking a couple of weeks ago about creativity and people
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: who are who are creative with artists and musicians or writers,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: and I think we were specifically talking about Ernest Hittingway
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  Speaker 7: and and his his life and a little bit about
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: his style. And the point that I wanted to take
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: away from that was that these people who are are
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: what I call highly creative, I think are very very
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 7: lonely people. They're they're are they're alone, and and there
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: really is there really is two people involved with with
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 7: somebody who's very creative like that, there's that the interior person,
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  Speaker 7: which is where the all all of the thoughts are
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 7: generated and and most of the time is spent thinking
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: about how to how to approach a particular subject or
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: a particular area, and the exterior person that has to
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: exist with us the rest of us mere mortals. And
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: I've always been struck by how tedious it must be
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: for these people, whether the find musicians or writers or organistators,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 7: to have to deal with folks that did buy their work,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: folks that pay their way. It says, such as the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: creative part of them, it's such an intense part of them,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: and just like ninety eight percent of their effort is
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 7: spent living in their own head. And how for most
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: of us, and we don't. We don't live with that curse,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: if it's a curse, but we don't live with that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: kind of duality. It's if we tend to balance that.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: I've had a number of people who said that I'm
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 7: thinking it was on person particularly who said that they
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: didn't have a creative bone in their body. Well, we
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: all are very creative people. We're creative people in our
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: own in our own areas. We're creative with the way
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: that we treat people.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: We're talking.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: Healthcare wise. Right now, we're creating doucas. You're doing this
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: all the time. You're say, thinking about how this might work,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: or how that might work, or how this might make
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 7: a difference, or how maybe this is not a this
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: is not the right thing for them between that's all
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: part of part of being creative. And it's it's just
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 7: different levels. And these people who are and it's again
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: as I say, highly creative, are just such so more
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  Speaker 7: focused on on the interior part of expression. I was
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  Speaker 7: reading the other day, and this is a was a short,
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  Speaker 7: well or fourteen page heavy going essay about what what
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: constitutes beauty and or truth or love or hate or
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  Speaker 7: any of these any of these kinds of abstract things.
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  Speaker 7: We were talking a couple of weeks ago about abstract
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  Speaker 7: thinking and and the argument at that point was that
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  Speaker 7: when we we use words like beauty or truth, that
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  Speaker 7: really those words do not apply to a painting or
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  Speaker 7: a sunset, or or any any kind of created saying
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  Speaker 7: that that we can say something is beautiful, that's different
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  Speaker 7: from beauty, beauty being kind of the abstract beauty being uh,
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  Speaker 7: sort of sort of a transcendent quality, sort of like God.
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  Speaker 7: It's something that we we have an idea about what is,
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  Speaker 7: but what we what we're looking at when we see
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: a painting, or ear a piece of music, or even
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: a song about whorehouses and New Orleans, that's that is,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: that's a manifestation of this greater impulse called life or
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: beauty or love or disappointment. That that these bigger terms
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  Speaker 7: are the abstractions, and what we what we look at
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: as manifestations of those impulses, of those drivers, is a
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  Speaker 7: very different kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: The point was made in this essay that when we
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: talk about a beautiful sunset, we mean that very differently
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  Speaker 7: than if we were talking about a beautiful woman or
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  Speaker 7: a beautiful poem. It's a different it's a different kind
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  Speaker 7: of interpretation of a different kind of expression. The point
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  Speaker 7: of all that, to me was that it broughtened, it
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  Speaker 7: broadened the process of our own perception. We're looking at things,
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  Speaker 7: we're thinking about things that we need to to keep
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  Speaker 7: in mind that what we actually see is different from
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: what it's abstraction is. There are several offshoots of Christianity.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 7: There's one a major offshoot of Hinduism that suggests that
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: everything that we see, everything that we see is an illusion,
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  Speaker 7: that the truth of what we see we can only
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  Speaker 7: kind of get a sense for because it's an abstraction,
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  Speaker 7: that what we're seeing is the expression of an impulse. Well,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: the weakness to that, it seems to me, is that
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 7: if everything is an illusion, then in fact the illusion
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: is an illusion, and we're back to square one, which
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  Speaker 7: doesn't leave us anywhere, which may may be the beauty
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  Speaker 7: of it all, but it's you know, we're talking about artists,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: and we're talking about they're just that non creative. Susan
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  Speaker 7: is a very creative person. You love what she does
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: in her kitchen, right. If she weren't creative, if she
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 7: didn't have a sense of the materials at hand and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 7: have us have a kind of an impulse to try
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: this or put this together or have it, wouldn't happen. Engineers,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: any anybody, anybody's creative engineers or creative people. There are
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: many engineers who are very creative, and the bulk of
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: them are creative, but they're nothing really special. And so
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: what makes what's the difference what makes a great pianist
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: the different from me or any pianists or any piano player.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 7: What is that different? So you were You've said many
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: times that you've spent time in Italy, and I think
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: that you said once that you went the Indrome Casida
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 7: Sistine Chapel. And the difference between a truly great creator
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: is is on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel where
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: the finger of God. I remember it says left hand
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: is reaching out towards the finger of Adam, and I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: think that's his right hand. It's that divine spark that
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: makes the difference between a highly creative artist and the
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: rest of us. It's not that we don't have the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: same thoughts or that we're not driven by the same impulses,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: because we are. It's just different degrees. But the difference
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 7: wise with those those super creators is a superb mastery
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 7: of physical technique. How do they how do they work
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: or brush the right way to get this effect, how
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 7: do they mix this color to get that way? How
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: do they write a symphony where you're dealing with eighty
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: to one hundred performers on different instruments and having a
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 7: thorough understanding of how each of those instruments can be
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: played and is wanted to be played. It's just a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 7: superb mastery of the medium. Of the technique, and that's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: a huge separator for most of us. Now we look
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: at a vase of flowers and we can paint that.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: Rembrandt painted it a little differently because of his skill,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: his physical, physical skill I had. When I was in school,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: I shared in an office with a guy who who
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: was from Galveston, and he was Both of his parents
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 7: were teachers. As I say, when when we were sharing
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: an office, we were working in the same scholarly academic
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: area of music theory, and he had an idea to
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 7: completely redo the traditional approach to tisi music theory. Any
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: any viable performer, certainly of classical music, has to have
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: a pretty good grounding in how these pieces are put
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: together and why they work the way they do. That's
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 7: the theory part of it, and that's what we were
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: working with. And theory had always been taught in a
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 7: fairly traditional way, and it works, and White change it.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: His concept change things, change it dramatically, and I think
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: from a liberal arts point of view, his idea was
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: the only one that to me has ever really made sense.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: Sure having been out of that area for half a century,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: that's things may have changed a lot. I don't know.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 7: But it really it broadened the perspective of serious music students. Now,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: you know, you take music classes at a liberal arts university,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: it's different than if you go to a conservatory. A
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: conservatory produces performers. The conservatory is on the same level
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: as a medical school or chiropractic school, or engineering school
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: or law school. It focuses on a particular discipline almost
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: to the exclusion of others. Almost but of course they
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: have to take other things, and it kind of brought
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: but it's it's it's very selective education liberal arts. It
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: turns out hopefully educated people and and there are different
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: than the specialists that there has to be a difference
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 7: in a way that we perceive that structure, and that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: makes a difference in how we look at things like
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: what makes a great painting or a great book, or
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: a great poem or a great piece of music. It's
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 7: it's a it's a different kind of a construct. At
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: any rate, this this guy wound up going through, uh,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 7: you know, he got his degree, as we all kind
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: of did. Who managed to hang in there for better
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 7: or worse, got a job at a university, was went
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 7: through the tenure process, of which is a fairly critical,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: unpleasant process. But once you, once you become a tenured
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 7: faculty member, basically they can't fire you. Your you're set.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: You're set for life. But he stayed in that university
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: for a couple of years and then he left. He
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: just he just left. He he became, he wanted to
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 7: he wanted to write music. He became a full time composer,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: push in this country is a very difficult job because
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 7: if you can't sell serious music to orchestras, about the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: only other thing he could do is teaching. And he
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 7: just walked away from that part of it. What struck
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: me about that was it what was important to him
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 7: was the creativity, was the writing of music, the understanding
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 7: of how sound worked, how different sounds work together. I
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 7: didn't ever find his music beautiful. It wasn't something that
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 7: I went away coming or which or or thinking about,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: uh in that way it was to me, it was not.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: It was not a particularly pleasurable experience, which is to
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: say that not all art should be. But he said
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: that this particular sound combination of instruments was beautiful. Was
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: brought to mind that our sense of beauty or balance
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: or perfection or yeah, this similar it's all it's it's
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: a first of all, it's very personal, uh personal opinion
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: about a piece, but that that opinion is also driven
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: by our society, about our culture. What what we in
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 7: in Western civilization might consider to be a beautiful painting
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: in another culture might be considered to be ugly or horrible,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 7: or pornographic or whatever. It's a different different cultures, different societies,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 7: values all pretty focused, and it's unusual to find someone
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: who is able to look open mindedly at something very
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: different that it has been created in a different with
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 7: a different set of values and a different set of
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: aesthetics than perhaps the ones that they were raised with. Myself,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 7: I don't know very much about Indian music music from India,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 7: but if I had to pick up a not to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: use your favorite genre of music to listen to for
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 7: the rest of the time, I think I would pick
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: music from India. It's fascinating to me, and I don't
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: know very much about it. But maybe it's the unpredictability
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 7: that I am looking for in to me what makes
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 7: great music. Somebody else would feel if it's just some
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: idiotic idea, but our own sense of values and our
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 7: own sense of what constitutes beauty or perfection, or love
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 7: or hate. It's all very cultural. It's all very very
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 7: specific to where we live, where we were brought up,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 7: how we were brought up, what our parents thought, what
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 7: the thought was that people around us. And it comes
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: back to that essay that what we look at when
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: we look at things from beyond our experience of God,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 7: our culture is what is the impulse? What gowd that
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: creative moment was this person to paint this picture, or
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: carve this statue, or write this poem. That's that's the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 7: fascinating art. That's the beauty of it. It doesn't mean
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: that their work may be beautiful, but the impulse is
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 7: what we find beautiful. So how does how does all
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: this work is? If it's into what I call a
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: kind of a transcended identification. We we look at pieces
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 7: of art from other other cultures, from creative whether it's
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 7: architecture or or whatever. We look at at bits of
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 7: creativity from other cultures and we have to recognize that
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: before that building was built or that painting was painted,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 7: that the thought was there, the impulse was there. The
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: architecture the architects said well, I need to have these
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 7: kinds of arches, and I need to have these kinds
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 7: of it. I need to have this structure, I need
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 7: to have this that then began to be manifested in
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 7: what he ultimately turned up would be. Whether it's a
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: taj mahal or it's a great wall of China or
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: whatever is the impulse is what to be. As part
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 7: of that transcended identification, they say, it's a connection that
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 7: we have with any kind of creativity, despite the manifestation
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: of it. And once the creative process has completed, once
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: the work is done, we returned to that kind of
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 7: introspective mulling over of the of of what drul but
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: is to transcendentalism of it, what grows this person to
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: create this particular thing in this particular way, whether it's
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 7: a whether it's a fine dish that is takes hours
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 7: to prepare or something that you and I dot can cook,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 7: or whether it's a home or that impulse, that creative
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 7: impulse is there in all of us and that manifests
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 7: itself is I say, based on on our technical capabilities
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 7: and also on what our culture has has given us
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: to work with. So that was we're thinking about mister
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: Hemmingway or John Steinbeck, or are these people that no
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: matter what, how, how how their life manifested, is how
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: how their life wound up. What your creative products work.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: The thing that we find, the thing that we find
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: we connect with is the creativity, is the driving impulse
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: that this that this is something that they had to do.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: They had to make this happen. They had the technique
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: and the skill that surpasses most of that of the
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 7: rest of us. Anyway, there you.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Go, Wow, that was deep. I think when you were
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: in college. You guys were smoking wine even to understand
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: all that. That pretty good stuff, you know, And you
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: brought up a good point.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 7: Guy that I was talking about. Hey, you talk about
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 7: and one of our self uh self designated philosophers and
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 7: that group of three or four people used to call
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 7: it that kind of thinking. Oh, he used to call
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 7: it a zippy ship because it was just so far
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 7: out there that you know what. This fellow that I
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: was talking about, who Bob Big, His dissertation was in
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: a kind of arcane area. Now this isn't we were musicians.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: We're in a music school, we're in a music department.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: But his dissertation was was with early stages of awareness
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: and perception, and we're not talking about in children, we're
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 7: talking about culturally. I looked at it and I got
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 7: through about three pages of it, and I said, man,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 7: this is zippy shit. I can't do this. And now
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 7: I would like to go back and take a look
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 7: at it, because it was it was just an interesting
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 7: kind of process. But I think it was. One of
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 7: one of Einstein's buddies was talking about professionals and he said,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 7: you know, if you're a physicist, you've reached your high
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: point by about the time you're thirty five. After that,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 7: you're just repeating yourself. Anything that's new that you come
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 7: up with has done thirty to thirty five. Musicians a
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 7: little later, Artists a little different, writers, you know, but
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 7: we all have some point in our life. It's a
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 7: high point, after which it's a downhill slide. I think, thing,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 7: who is with this guy? He says. I think that
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: he's he says, writing away and he's having a good time,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: and whether anybody ever hears his music does not matter.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Interesting deep stuff, sissy anything before we go to break.
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  Speaker 6: Again, I guess baseball is on my mind. But he
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: hit it out of the park.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did that. Is some deep stuff. I got
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: a feeling value do like me with getting ready for
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: the show during the week, and Susy is that we're
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: all thinking about this stuff. But boy, you had to
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: dig deep for some of that. That was some interesting stuff,
• 1:30:07
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• 1:30:10
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• 1:30:18
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  Speaker 6: Sissy, I often wonder about the desired part. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: And you know, I don't know about y'all's grocery store,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: but you know my ATV will has a brand called Organics,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: so I can get organic quote unquote Monzarella sticks. I
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: can't get raw, but you know you wouldn't want to
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: use you know, the soft you know, like mozzarella balls.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: I don't think they're going to stand up in the
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: oven into this process. So anyways, eight of those and
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: eight slices of bacon, and of course most of our
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: listeners know, we try to stay away from the cured meats.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: You can get uncured bacon nearly anywhere, and then you're
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: gonna need just good stuff. A quarter of a cup
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: of hot sauce like Francs red hot. I think that's
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: generally used when you're when you're saucying wings, and then
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: two tablespoons of butter. So that's how you sauce wings,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: so it's similar in the in the process. So two
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: tablespoons of butter melted and then all this yummy stuff.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: Teaspon of cayenne pepper. Now that's pretty hot. You could
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: back that off to half or even quarter. Just go
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: by your taste and in your sensitivity to heat or
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: leave it out. You're already used in the uh Franks
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: red hot. One teaspoon of smoked paprika and half of
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: a teaspoon of garlic powder, half a teaspoon of onion powder,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: quarter teaspin of black pepper, and then some toothpecks to
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: hold your bacon in place. So preheat your oven four
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: hundred degrees and if you're you know, overseas elsewhere, that's
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: two hundred degrees celsius, and line a baking sheet with
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: partial and paper. You're definitely gonna want to do that.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: So this says to wrap each Monzarelli stick in a
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: slice of bacon, and let's say, hellop poppers. I like
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: my bacon to be more on the crispy side, So
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: do what you want. If I were doing this, I
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: would probably put my bacon in the oven. You know,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: let it cook, you know, render some of the bat
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: off if you will, if it's uncured bacon, save that
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: liquid gold. Anyways, pre cooked the bacon so that these
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 6: monsarella sticks don't have to be and fove and so long,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: or just go buy this recipe instruction. So in a
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: small bowl, you're going to mix everything else. You're hot sauce,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: you're melted butter, in all your seasonings, and so you've
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 6: already got your mosterrella sticks wrapped secured with the cut
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: two picks. Then you're going to brush this hot sauce
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: over them really good, you know, get it, get it
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: sauce up pretty good. Then you're going to put it
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: in the ovens for like fifteen or twenty minutes until
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 6: that they can it's crispy. No I questioned that part.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: That's why I want to I like to pre cook
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: it towards steel soft and you can still wrap it
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: and then the cheese is melted. And that's it. That
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: is just how simple it is. And uh, those listening
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 6: over on Rumble in our comments section for today's show,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: is that recipe and that's it? Seven or eight minutes.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: Well we got some time left, Doc.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: Well you lost me when you said Bill and I
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: could do it. And it sure didn't sound that simple
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: to me. Bill. What do you think?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: My question to you, Doc, is that you makes that
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 7: I couldn't.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think I could. But I could eat
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: the bacon.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 7: And the cheese I could. Yeah, that I could do.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: But you know, chop cannot wrap bacon around the Monsterrell stick.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: I would probably eat the bacon for I got that far.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 7: And the Morella stick.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Montreal stick. That's a lot of work
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: and I could just eat both of them. This is
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: why it.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I made it sound more complicated than it was
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: by pre cooking. Pre cooking thank him, so that you
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: ensure you know that it is crispy after you know,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: the fifteen or twenty minutes. But you don't have to.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 7: I don't. I've never pre cooked anything. You know it.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny? Bill in her own pretty head.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: These things are all easy because this is what she is.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: She thinks this way. I'm thinking, where can I buy that?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Who do I know? They could make that for.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: Me and ship it to us on the menu, maybe
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: in Nashville.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: Poor Hunley, he has to come home and try all
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: these wonderful meals. What a tough life. Yeah all right, Susy,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: you had some other stuff you wanted to discuss. Take
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: it away.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 6: Oh well, I'll make you you extra envious. Now, granted
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 6: I had all this stuff prepped. I cooked rice yesterday,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 6: I cooked my bacon earlier today. So I was listening
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: and I had the phone in the kitchen, I had
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 6: it turned up and I had it on mute. And
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: I can't believe I'm admitting this. I'm gonna pay for it.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: So I made bacon fried rice during Bill segment, and
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: it's done, It's ready to go, y'all come on?
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Why am I not surprised that she was ignoring us?
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 7: Phil, Yeah, well, let me think of the cure pacatures.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: Listening his entire segment.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not we're not married to you. You don't
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: have to tell us those lies.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, in said, you know, what else do
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 6: I want to talk about? I mean, I guess I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 6: really brought it up, you know before Bill segment was
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: if you really wrap your head around pharmaceutically trained doctors
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 6: and what their agenda is. And you're sitting there and
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: you're filling out all that paperwork, and you're like, why
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: do they want me to do their job for them?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 6: What do they want all this information for? What are
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 6: they going to do with this information? Yeah, yeah, hipo whatever.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 6: They're using it for clues because they don't practice healthcare.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 6: I saw something the other day on Facebook that said
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 6: drugs are not healthcare, and so it just it irritates me.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 6: You know, I've been there, done that back in the day,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 6: you know, long before, well before I knew dog filling
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: out that paperwork and not one time did I well,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 6: I don't know. There was a few times where I thought,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: why do they want this? Why do they want this
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: family history? And then of course they asked you about
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: mental issues, and they ask you about you know, sexual
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 6: abuse and alcohol and drugs, and they're just digging and
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: it irritates me.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Well it should. I learned a long time ago. I
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: made my paperwork very minimal because I wanted the people
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: to sit down and talk to me. I learned more
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: from listening than I ever did from them stupid sheets.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't care about that stuff. And that was the
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: nightmare with United Healthcare. They had this system where the
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: patient and the office had to fill out all this
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: paperwork every visit, and then you had to get permission
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: for treatments, and it was a nightmare. But in my
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: own paperwork sharp, sweet, and sometimes that people would say,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: what do you want? I said, don't worry about it,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: Let's talk. Tell me what's going on, tell me whatever
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: it's you know, the balls in your court. And I
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: learned so much from listening. And that's something you and
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: Bill are good at because you both think that way
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: and you're able to tell what's going on, and it's
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: very helpful and susy. You've become if there was the
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: have physicians assistant and they made it where we can't
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: say we're physicians anymore, which is really funny. But you
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: have become a really good doctor's assistant, and you've helped
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that you don't even realize because
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: you think that way and Bill and I we've done this,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: you know, in office settings and all that, so we
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: had a little bit of advantage. But you have come
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: so far and you're so good at all this stuff,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: and you've helped a lot of friends and people there
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: weren't maybe you know that knowledgeable on which way to go,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: and some of them have called us and some haven't,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: but you've helped a lot, no matter, no matter what,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: So I ignore all that paperwork. It means nothing. Nobody
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: ever goes back and looks at every bit of it
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: unless you're getting paid to dig up excuses to treat
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: people for something. My favorite that I don't like is
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: when they tell people to go get your DNA tested,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: your genes tested, so we can determine if you're positive
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: for this. I have heard of women, and this breaks
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: my heart, that got their breasts cut off because some
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: tests told them that they might have the gene for
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: breast cancer. So they just got them cut off right away.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: And that's what you were talking about, Susie. They were
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: scaring people and that's what they wanted to do, and
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: it's it's really really sad.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: Well is it the insurance company that mandates that ridiculous paperwork.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 6: Is it the AMA or is it the doctor's office.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: I think more. I think more of the insurance company
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: and a little bit of the doctor's office. They need
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: a little bit of stuff. But with United Healthcare, you
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: would come in and every visit, the office and the
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: patient had all this stuff to fill out and it
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: was just numbing. I mean, it served no purpose. And
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: then you'd have somebody on the other end of the
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: insurance company and they'd come back and say, well, their
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: bodies almost broken too, we'll give you a visit. You know,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: they didn't know what they were talking about and everything
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: everything was trying to get them to That's why I
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: was so glad when Obama killed us with insurance and
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: he destroyed the healthcare industry. We got out of the
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: insurance part and it was the best decision I ever made.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: I'd never look back. And if you need to file
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: your insurance, we'll give you a receipt, but we're not
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: dealing with the insurance. You used to have to do
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: all that alectronically, and you had to have a special
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: number to do it. And I'll never forget the companies
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: that made the software for you file on electronically. They
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: changed their software every so often, and they would not
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: update your program. They make you buy a whole new thing,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: of course, and it was devastating it. We were talking
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: over one thousand dollars just because they even change one thing.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: So well, because it's all about the money, follow the money,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 6: you know. I don't know what was it a couple
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: of years ago. My son was in a very slender
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 6: crawl space doing some PVC pipe and you got PVC
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 6: glue in his eyes. Well, I mean even you've talked about,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 6: you know, emergency rooms have their time in place. In
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: my opinion, that was the time in place, and so
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: went in. I saw a terrific doctor and fortunately there
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 6: was no damage. But I pay attention when I have
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: to go places like that for one thing, you know,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 6: they're gun free zones that it doesn't make me happy.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: They don't have to know it's in my purse. So anyways,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 6: I watched this doctor sitting in the space that was
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: maybe about I don't know, four feet wide, a little
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 6: teeny weeny countertop and a little cheap chair, and he
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 6: was working on papers and he was the only doctor there.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: And there was someone at least in half of their
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 6: examining rooms and he was the only one there and
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 6: it was all the paperwork was all consuming for that man.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I hated it. And you have to after
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: every patient, you have to do your soap notes and
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: it's subjective and objective in your treatment plan and what
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: they told you, and every single one you got to
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: do that far. It's a nightmare.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: So okay, I'm going to be a smart ass here.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: Why do you do your kind of doctor have to
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 6: do that when they don't consider you doctors?
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: Well, no, they consider us doctors. They just don't like
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: the fact that we're doctors. So what we do works
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: and it drives them nuts, especially doctors like me. They
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: do not like somebody that practices natural applied clinical nutrition
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: because we take away and you know, I don't care
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: what they do, but they sure care what we and
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: it's really sad and stupid.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 6: I've got a friend who's like me, Yeah, the world
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 6: should be afraid, and she does not see, you know,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 6: pharmaceutically trained doctors. And she was sharing some recent statistics
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 6: and I think you had touched on this several months
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 6: ago about your your training and how it's more training
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 6: than your your typical family MD, if you will, and
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 6: she shared that right now that the typical student med
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: student is only getting nineteen and a half hours in
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 6: their entire education on nutrition. And you and I and
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: Bill can guess what that is. Don't eat salt, don't
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 6: eat butter, you know, don't eat eggs. But still it's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 6: nineteen and a half hours, is it. Yeah, that is
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 6: probably erroneous.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because none of the medical schools require the mds
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: to take nutrition. They offer a little bit, but they
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about it. And that's one of the
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: reasons I went to the doctor that I chose to
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: be because nutrition was a big part of it. We
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: took a fair amount of nutrition in there, and then
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: that was just my passion. And because those guys were
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: having to follow the protocols from the pharmacy, they're not
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: allowed to do the nutritional stuff that I do, so
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: that's why I went my road. But yeah, they don't
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: even have to take any of it. And you've got
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: it posted on the website, and I think you got
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: it posted on the rumble page. There's a thing there
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: about the medical schools and they're very similar. But we
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: did a lot more nutrition and things like that. They
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: tried to fix it where doctors like me weren't allowed
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: to diagnose. They don't want you to be called a physician.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: They don't want you to diagnose. It's just childish, silly stuff.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: If they spent their time taking care of people, it
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: would be different. But they don't. They're all worried about
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: the money, and they lose money. I guess because what
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: we do works.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, so this is just a reminder for anyone
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 6: who listened to last week's so when Doc was talking
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 6: about equential immune therapy, that stuff that sounds pretty good.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: It makes a lot of sense. Anyways, what I did
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: was because it was a lot to take in. I
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 6: needed it myself actually, and I think the listeners might benefits.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: Bus sit down on typed it because I'm one of
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: those that got sick and it's hanging on. Anyways, you
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: can go to doccroupi dot com, go to resources, scrolled
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 6: down a little ways and you will see the document
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: and it's a PDF. You can click on it and
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 6: then you can downloaded or printed a boat. So that's
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 6: there from last week because it's that was a lot
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: of the info to consume.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I don't want
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: you to get a big head where you can't wear
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: a hat. But ladies and gentlemen, she fixed it for
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: every product we talked about. You click on it and
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: it'll take you to an information sheet about all that product.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: So it is amazing. She did a really good job.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: And she probably won't be able to wear a hat
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: for a few weeks, but she did a good job.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: I never did like her. All right, poor Huntley. We've
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: send him a lot of sympathy guards, but it doesn't
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: seem to be helping. But anybody that can cook like her,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: I guess you could tolerate a lot of that stuff, right.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: Bill, he'll be a happy camper when he gets here.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: Oh I bet he comes in and has to suffer
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: through all the meals that we can't even hardly pronounce much.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Let's try to make them all right. Well, guys were
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: running out of time. Bill, do you have anything since
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: we gave Susie the floor for all that? Nope, there
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: is Susie. You ruined him. He didn't used to be
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: It was what did she do?
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I heard a guy say, all right, I didn't
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: hear guys, I read that the guy said he tried
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: to marry his ex wife but she figured out he
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: was only after his money. And then then guy said,
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: and I could really relate to this because it's I
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: would say, this is very true. I have tasted love
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: and I have tasted booze. I'm here to tell you
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: I recommend booze. Already thought I'm going to go straight
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: to hell. I did hear one of the congressmen for
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: the US Congress say that he put in a bill
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: to stop it. But the problem was President Trump said,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: it's a fifty to fifty thing because a lot of
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: parents don't like to take their kids to school in
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: the dark. But I think he got confused because when
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: you move the clocks ahead, it's dark longer in the morning.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: So none of that makes any sense. We need to
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: do away with it.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 7: No, but they don't have to go to school, So
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  Speaker 7: there you go.
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  Speaker 6: Well, don't even get me started. I've already used the
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 6: term orange man bad several times just in the last week.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you stop you that.
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  Speaker 6: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: He can't help that. He's screwed up. Somebody must have
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: given bad information. But I've never met anybody that likes
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: daylight saving time changes. So I hope, I hope dearly
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  Speaker 2: that the person responsible for us still having it finds
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  Speaker 2: a very special place in hell.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the man's a billionaire, so you can't tell me
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  Speaker 6: that he can't think. Yeah, don't even get me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, he was talking about it the other day.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think it matters when you're the president.
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  Speaker 2: You know what time is it? Anytime I want it
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  Speaker 2: to be, so you know, he doesn't have to worry
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  Speaker 2: about the rest like the rest of us do. But
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  Speaker 2: I hate it with a passion. And my animals are
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: screwed up. They look at me like, do we need
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: to buy you a watch?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Same thing here? Yeah, you know, five o'clock. You know,
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  Speaker 6: my cats live by the adage it's five o'clock somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, not to be outdone because you and
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  Speaker 2: Bill have got all the damn hummingbirds. But we've seen
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  Speaker 2: some cats that we thought were probably feral cats on
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: the outside. So we decided to put a little house
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  Speaker 2: out there because it was miserable, miserable cold for a
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: little while, and some food and water, and we thought
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: that would be a nice thing. Maybe we'll give a
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: couple of cats a little place to go that's warm
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: and some food. And so one night I'm looking out
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  Speaker 2: the thing and I see something that could maybe be
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: a cat, and I go look, and it's a possum.
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  Speaker 2: I have never seen a possum in twenty plus years
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  Speaker 2: living here. Ever, where he came from, how he found out,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's been back several times. And tonight,
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: right before the show, I saw a cat for the
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: first time in their eating So that was kind of funny.
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  Speaker 2: But I would have never guessed a possum. Is that
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: what you had in the garage bill?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, he shows up every night. He finishes whatever
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 7: food the cat's left.
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  Speaker 2: Did they get along? Did they get along?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 7: They they wash each other. Possums have pretty bad eyesight,
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  Speaker 7: and they hear really well and they have a great
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 7: sense of being able to smell things. But their eyesight's
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 7: pretty bad, and I think they I think they see
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 7: moving shapes that I really don't think they see much else. Wow.
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  Speaker 7: And so you can these guys, mean, I can walk
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  Speaker 7: up a couple of feet within a couple of feet
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  Speaker 7: of them before they'll move.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. I'm amazed.
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  Speaker 6: Mine better than that. Because they can hear, they hear me,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, yes, I'm coming coming, I'm coming with
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 6: the broom. But the coolest thing, I mean, it's not
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 6: all all been horrible. I mean, I'm having a war
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 6: with about a thirty five pound raccoon right now, and
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 6: it just happens. You be cats outside, it's gonna happen.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 6: But I no, last summer, maybe last spring, I was
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 6: sitting on the back deck and it was close to dark,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 6: and this obviously mama possum comes walking up my deck
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 6: steps and she has babies on her back. Well that's
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 6: something you only see on National Geographic.
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  Speaker 7: Ye, I had never.
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  Speaker 6: I was so excited. I hauled but inside, got my
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 6: phone and went outside and took a picture those little
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 6: babies riding on her back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh cool. All right, guys, Well, I guess we're out
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: of time. It's that time of night where I like
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  Speaker 2: to say thank you to Susy, Bill and Steve, and
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: we appreciate all of you listening. We're so grateful and humbled,
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: and so many nations around the world that are listening.
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  Speaker 2: It's just wonderful. So I pray that God will bless
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: you all with health and happiness, keep your lives peaceful,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: free and safe, and it's time for good scotch, good cigars, and.
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  Speaker 6: Good night, good eye, all, good night everyone, Godless.
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  Speaker 11: Seems the love I have known has always been the
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 11: most destructive kind. Yes, that's why now I feel so
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 11: open before my time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes today, when I was young, the taste of light
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: was sweet, has rain upon my tongue. I teased at
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: light as if it were a foolish skin.
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  Speaker 7: Away.
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  Speaker 2: The evening breeze.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 7: May tease a candle flame.
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  Speaker 4: A thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things I planned.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 4: I always built to last, king shifting sands. I lived
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 4: by night and shunned the naked light of day, and
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 4: all in now I see how the years ran away.
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  Speaker 9: Yesterday when I was young, And so many funny songs
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 9: and we're waiting to be songs, and so many
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  Speaker 2: Pleasures and so much pain,