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Clydesdale Media Roundtable - Can We Talk Judging? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  And we're not muted.
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  Look at that.
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  Well, all right.
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  We are live.
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  How about that?
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  It was bad music.
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  I didn't even hear it.
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  I know.
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  It didn't even mute our mics
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  like it's supposed to.
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  Okay.
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  It was just our commentary
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  of the new open.
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  Oh.
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  Next time we'll have the good music on it.
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  Yay.
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  Hey, we're learning.
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  What do you want to do?
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  We are learning.
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  So welcome to the roundtable, everyone.
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  We are here live on a rainy,
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  cold Columbus afternoon.
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  Yeah.
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  Kat had to be a big girl
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  today and go to a meeting,
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  so she is not with us today.
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  But we got stuff to talk about.
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  We do have some stuff to talk about.
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  So what's up with you guys first?
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  And then we'll get into the
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  news of the day.
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  Well, what happened was yesterday,
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  Charlie and I worked out
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  and that workout about killed us.
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  Yes.
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  It about killed me.
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  And today's workout actually
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  was much better than yesterday.
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  I think after reflecting back,
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  would you agree to that, Charlie?
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  I would agree with that.
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  Okay.
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  Terrible.
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  Terrible.
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  So after an appetizer of 50
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  clean and jerks.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah,
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  it was an EMOM five every minute for
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  10 minutes.
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  So, you know,
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  in 10 minutes you're doing 50
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  clean jerks.
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  Then our workout was 15
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  minutes of work of overhead
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  walking lunge with one
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  dumbbell for 50 feet.
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  15 toes at a bar,
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  overhead walking lunge with the left side,
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  then 15 burpee over dumbbells,
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  and then 15 alternating
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  dumbbell snatches.
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  In theory, I looked at that and thought,
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  oh, I like those.
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  Those movements are nice and
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  complimentary.
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  It will be good.
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  I almost quit CrossFit yesterday.
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  I wanted,
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  I was like five minutes in and I was like,
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  I don't even want to do this anymore.
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  I just, I don't want, why do I, why?
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  It was the longest five
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  minutes of my CrossFit life, I think.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  It was, it was rough.
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  So.
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  Yeah.
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  Yesterday I stayed home.
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  I did Cindy in my basement.
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  Okay.
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  And I, that is not good for me.
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  That is definitely not my strength.
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  But felt good.
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  Felt good.
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  Cindy, you cut out there too early.
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  So we can tell what you said.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  So I did that yesterday.
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  Today's my rest day.
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  Hopefully it's supposed to warm up,
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  be back at the gym tomorrow.
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  Yep.
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  And on the cold plunging update,
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  by the way,
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  I've been doing it every single day.
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  I think Charlie's still stuck on day one.
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  Sorry, he's done day three.
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  I did day three.
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  Yeah.
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  So it's kind of my plunge is
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  solidified around the
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  circumference of it.
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  And so the last three days
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  I've had to take my hammer
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  and take the chunks out of
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  it so I could fit into it.
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  And yesterday was the worst
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  because I must not have
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  gotten enough far down.
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  So I kind of got in there
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  and then I was like, oh, my God,
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  I think I'm stuck.
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  I think I'm going to be stuck in here.
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  I'm not going to be able to
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  shimmy out because I won't
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  be able to feel anything.
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  Have you felt any benefits?
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  Yes.
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  Like what?
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  My energy levels.
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  I have so much more energy.
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  Cause that's what you needed.
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  Cause I need more energy.
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  I lack energy.
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  No, my recovery,
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  my soreness after workouts
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  has been very minimal.
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  It depends on when I do it.
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  I would love to do it before I work out.
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  But I cannot do it on days
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  that I get up at 4 a.m.
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  to go to the gym because I'm
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  not going to go outside by
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  myself in the dark and cold
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  plunge when there's nobody
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  around that could save my
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  life if I got stuck in there.
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  So.
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  4 a.m., your husband's there.
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  But I can't call for him.
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  He's not going to hear me.
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  Put a rock by your thing and
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  throw it up at the window.
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  Ice chunk.
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  I'll just stick an ice chunk.
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  A little boom box over your head.
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  Yeah.
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  Did you hear sleep?
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  How's your sleep?
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  Oh, my sleep, you know,
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  better on days that I don't
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  have to get up early.
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  It's that's just the caveat
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  is I just don't sleep well
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  when I have to wake up early to coach.
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  Just too excited to see Charlie.
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  Yep.
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  I am.
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  And when I don't drink wine.
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  Mm hmm.
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  Or beer, apparently.
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  Or beer.
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  It was funny.
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  I was listening to Athena and Hiller,
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  their first check-in last night.
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  It's really long.
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  I did not get through it all.
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  But...
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  he has her no drinking while
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  she's trying to achieve this goal, um,
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  which is a year.
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  Um, and that,
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  that he said it in a way like
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  no drinking.
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  If you do, then I will not work with you.
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  Okay.
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  It is very, very, um, blunt.
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  Yeah.
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  Um,
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  I have some things in my
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  mind that I want to say,
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  but I want to give it a
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  week or two before.
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  Yeah.
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  You know,
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  like they're in the beginning phases.
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  Let them get together a
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  couple more times before I
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  speak about it.
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  But there's interesting things with it.
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  I thought this would be an
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  interesting experiment.
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  So I'm anxious to see where it goes.
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  Yeah.
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  Agreed.
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  I listened to one and a half
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  speed and still couldn't get through like
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  a lot of it but why is it
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  that long it so it's really
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  it's recapping why they're
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  doing this kind of all the
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  rules that he set forth for
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  her at the beginning um and
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  uh and then they're doing
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  like their check-in with
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  different things and so
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  much has changed for athena
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  that there's there's just a
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  lot to talk through
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  um he has like five rules
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  for her that are absolutes
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  yeah um and they go through
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  that and and all that
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  before they even get to
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  like what she ate how she's
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  feeling but she's already
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  lost 12 and a half pounds
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  right in a week two weeks
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  two weeks yeah that seems
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  aggressive yeah so yeah so
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  we'll see it was interesting
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  One of the big topics I had
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  on the docket was judging.
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  We always rip the judging at
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  different events,
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  and I am one of the biggest
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  culprits for it.
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  Wadapalooza,
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  I thought there were some things.
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  And I said it in a way that
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  I think the event put the
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  judges in a bad position.
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  Okay.
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  Judging strict pull-ups is really hard.
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  You know?
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  Yeah.
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  but i watched the nfl this
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  weekend yeah and their
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  officiating was awful yes
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  and those guys get paid
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  you're pretty good too
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  right yeah so i had this
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  like epiphany like
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  We're right in line with all
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  professional sports because
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  our judges are just as bad
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  as their judges and they're free.
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  So I just wanted to kind of
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  get your guys' thoughts.
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  Charlie, I know you watch a lot of sports.
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  Like everything I watch is bad.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, some of it's really bad though.
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  I feel like with judging,
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  there's a gray line that
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  maybe you... We're talking
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  about strict pull-ups.
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  Okay, is your chin over or not?
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  Is it kind of like... Are
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  your arms... Are you in a full hangout?
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  Yeah, full hang extended.
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  Right.
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  Or did you tell me you have
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  a mobility issue?
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  Some past interference stuff is like, okay,
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  just mug that dude and just
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  didn't even call it.
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  Right.
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  And I mean,
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  isn't there a hold on every
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  single play and they just don't, you know,
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  that that's not called every play.
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  Yes.
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  They could call hold on every play.
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  Right.
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  So it's at their discretion
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  when they call it.
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  But the benefits of an NFL,
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  I was about to say judge is that, um,
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  that they can review.
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  Yeah.
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  They get instant replay even.
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  Right.
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  They get instant replay in hockey.
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  They get instant replay in baseball.
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  There is no luxury for that
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  at a CrossFit event.
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  What it's also created is
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  people complaining too much
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  about stuff that they don't
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  need to complain about.
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  Example,
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  your guy who was over the line
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  when you called him.
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  Again,
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  they remember his name when you were
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  judging Scott.
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  Oh, I know.
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  His foot was over the line
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  and he's arguing.
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  It's not complain.
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  I know who it is,
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  but I'm not going to say.
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  Well, I mean, just in general.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I had a guy,
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  his whole body was over the line.
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  And I called no rep and he
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  appealed and complained and
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  did all those things.
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  But yeah, it's,
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  and it's like that in the
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  NFL and soccer and every,
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  like everybody complains
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  after every play.
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  Oh, where's the flag?
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  Where's the flag?
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  Oh, I caught that.
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  You clearly didn't catch that.
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  So I just got some
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  perspective this weekend, and I thought,
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  you know,
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  I sometimes rip the judges in
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  CrossFit and the event
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  organizers for putting them
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  in bad positions,
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  but it's in every sport.
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  Oh, for sure.
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  And you have good judges and
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  good referees and bad
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  judges and bad referees.
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  Well, and I'll tell you who I, you know,
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  I used to be scared to go
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  to sporting events with my
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  husband because he is very
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  vocal and commentary and
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  helpful to the judges.
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  But I'll tell you who I think might,
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  might take the cake over
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  Scott Radowski is it might
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  be Mrs. Lisa Odie.
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  Your own children are like,
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  you can't talk during this entire game.
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  So that's a sight for us to be watching.
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  Well,
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  I've seen her yell at Charlie during
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  open events.
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  Yep.
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  At competitions.
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  Yep.
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  Yeah.
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  I can only imagine at a ref.
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  Oh, it's in basketball too.
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  Oh, it's bad.
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  Yep.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  The other thing, my other thought was,
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  and it's a parallel I've seen in CrossFit,
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  a lot of these refs, the good ones,
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  are taking the TV money and
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  leaving the field, right?
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  Yeah.
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  And in CrossFit,
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  the good judges are getting
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  promoted to leads and head
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  judges and working with events.
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  It's kind of taking them off of the...
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  Off of the floor doing the
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  day-to-day stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  And they deserve it.
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  Sure.
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  You know, they did a good job.
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  They should be promoted up.
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  But I think it's leaving a
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  hole in the back.
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  Well, and I have to say, I mean, I...
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  I can't imagine.
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  I think that judging is a high stress job.
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  Um, and it's,
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  it's never where someone's
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  going to be so excited
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  about having you there.
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  And so like, oh, great.
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  Thanks so much.
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  Like they're, you know,
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  now I will say I have seen
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  the Pancheck brothers at
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  every single event that
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  they've attended to go up
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  prior to the event and
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  shake the hands and meet
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  and think they're judges.
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  The panchecks are religious about that,
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  but there are a lot of athletes.
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  There are.
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  I'm just specifically
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  mentioning them because
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  I've consistently seen that.
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  Yeah.
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  So that's my judging piece.
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  I want to talk about Colton.
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  I saw you text Amy.
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  You did.
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  That on Instagram,
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  and I have it pulled up.
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  Let's see it.
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  We've got some local collaboration.
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  We do.
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  So Colton announced on
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  Instagram that this was yesterday,
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  that this is day one with him at Proven.
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  That he has been Kilo 2
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  trained his whole career,
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  and he is now moving to Proven.
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  And his coach is Joey Tutora.
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  who is a Columbus native.
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  I don't think he lives here now.
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  He was in Philly for a minute with OBX.
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  And I don't know if he's
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  moved to Nashville for proven,
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  but super excited for this.
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  And I really think Joey would,
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  is going to be great with Colton.
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  Did Joey used to be a brute athlete?
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know, Charlie.
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  I know him as the owner of
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  CrossFit Grandview, uh,
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  when he was that for a
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  minute here in Columbus.
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  And then with Kelsey and him, I'm sorry,
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  Amy.
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  He was a regional athlete.
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  He's made the games.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Okay.
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  A team on team and once individual,
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  I think.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  Um,
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  But I think his personality
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  is perfect for Colton.
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  And he's one of the most fun
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  guys that I've got to hang
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  out with at competitions.
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  So super stoked for this.
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  And basically,
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  he owned the biggest
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  CrossFit gym here in
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  Columbus for a very long time.
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  Yeah.
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  One of the first CrossFit gyms.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  it was bill Henniger's gym
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  that he sold off and Joey took over.
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  Um, and his wife is a doctor.
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  So he goes where she goes.
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  You can do CrossFit anywhere.
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  Yeah.
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  Turns out.
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  So, yeah, that's exciting.
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  I think that's really cool.
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  Um, and I didn't,
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  I didn't know Joey moved to
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  proven until this announcement.
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  Yeah.
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  because he was on team OBX
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  last year with Kelsey.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So and then next on my list,
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  someone won an award this week.
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  Yep.
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  Charlie.
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  What?
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  Someone won an award this week.
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  He's the people's champ.
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  He's the people's champ in
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  our gym for the month of January.
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  I mean,
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  I've always held the title of
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  people's champ, but... Yeah,
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  but this one was just
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  finally... And... He was annoyed about it,
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  but I think he's very
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  worthy of it because he's
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  been very consistent with
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  his training and he has
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  worked through his recovery
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  from his surgery.
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  And he works a lot smarter now.
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  I feel like...
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  Susan Lucci.
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  I feel like it was in the making.
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  And now it's just one of those.
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  You know what?
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  I guess we'll give it to you now.
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  No.
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  Nope.
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  Nope.
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  I feel that you have matured
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  so much as an athlete.
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  And not just chronologically.
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  I just mean emotionally.
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  Not mentally.
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  Not mentally.
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  There's still things that make them laugh.
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  A lot hot.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  But he it was renamed this
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  month and this month only
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  instead of champion athlete
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  to the people's champ.
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  He said that in his caveat
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  that that's what he wanted.
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  And did you notice I did follow through?
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  I did.
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  I did.
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  Yeah.
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  I will remain that until the end of time.
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  You'll be the only people's champ.
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  It's going to go back to
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  champion athletes.
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  My favorite part was you
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  were asked in the feature
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  what your least favorite movement was,
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  and you were basically like all of them.
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  If it's not a push-up,
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  I pretty much hate it.
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  I don't like it.
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  Push-up or bench press, I'm not in.
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  I don't want to do it.
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  Basically, anything that involves CrossFit,
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  I don't want to do it.
• 19:12
  Yeah, here we are.
• 19:12
  We're talking about it,
• 19:13
  and we're doing CrossFit.
• 19:16
  I want to give you a
• 19:18
  personal congratulations.
• 19:19
  That's awesome.
• 19:22
  I know that's a pretty cool honor there,
• 19:23
  Shred.
• 19:26
  I still get the email,
• 19:27
  so it was cool to see your
• 19:28
  picture pop up as soon as I
• 19:30
  opened the email.
• 19:33
  The second take.
• 19:34
  The first take, I was asleep.
• 19:37
  Oh, yeah.
• 19:38
  I did take a photo and I was like, okay,
• 19:41
  we got to redo this photo
• 19:42
  because you definitely look
• 19:43
  like you just rolled down bed.
• 19:44
  And he had, but
• 19:46
  Got him a little more alert.
• 19:49
  So training is asking a question.
• 19:54
  Would like to hear you
• 19:55
  discuss the new call for
• 19:56
  paid online judging for the game season.
• 19:59
  Seems like a great
• 20:00
  development in
• 20:01
  professionalization of the sport.
• 20:04
  I have seen that.
• 20:06
  I think we have actually
• 20:07
  been touting it as a way to
• 20:10
  filter the online
• 20:12
  submissions of workouts.
• 20:15
  um this group of people to
• 20:17
  go through them and sort
• 20:18
  them as good valid or major
• 20:22
  penalty minor penalty
• 20:24
  whatever so that crossfit
• 20:25
  doesn't have to sort
• 20:26
  through all of them themselves yeah
• 20:30
  And they did put a call out
• 20:32
  for people to sign up for this.
• 20:35
  I did not click on it to see
• 20:37
  what the qualifications were.
• 20:39
  If anybody knows,
• 20:40
  would love to hear what that is.
• 20:42
  But I think it's a step in
• 20:44
  the right direction for sure.
• 20:46
  Did we talk on here about
• 20:48
  this year's judges course?
• 20:51
  You said you took it and you
• 20:53
  really liked the update.
• 20:55
  Yeah, okay.
• 20:55
  I couldn't remember if that
• 20:56
  was you guys I told that to.
• 20:58
  So any of you listeners,
• 20:59
  if you have not done this
• 21:00
  year's judge's course,
• 21:01
  I was pretty happy with
• 21:04
  this year's judge's course.
• 21:07
  Andrew Sten, our resident judge, says,
• 21:10
  Pat Midge, training and glad to meet you.
• 21:13
  CrossFit is really vetting online judges,
• 21:15
  and yes, they are paying.
• 21:18
  I might be interested.
• 21:21
  Qualifications are an L1,
• 21:23
  and they look at your judging experience.
• 21:30
  So I think that's pretty awesome.
• 21:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:36
  So the next thing I have is
• 21:38
  I just got done watching
• 21:40
  the Rich Froning podcast
• 21:42
  before we came on the air.
• 21:44
  And a lot of times when I
• 21:46
  see something and I say so,
• 21:48
  I feel like I'm really
• 21:50
  shitting on whatever it is.
• 21:51
  And I hate doing that
• 21:53
  because I know there's a
• 21:54
  lot of hard work behind things.
• 21:57
  But man,
• 21:59
  Angelo DiCicco took shitting on
• 22:01
  Wadapalooza to a whole new level.
• 22:05
  to a point where he made this statement.
• 22:07
  I'm going to play it real quick,
• 22:10
  and hopefully Mayhem won't
• 22:12
  ding us for sharing this.
• 22:16
  So this is Rory basically saying,
• 22:20
  what a Palooza seems like childbirth with,
• 22:25
  that women are like,
• 22:25
  I'm never doing that again.
• 22:27
  Then a couple months later, like, hey,
• 22:29
  I'm ready for another kid.
• 22:32
  And a lot of what a Palooza athletes say,
• 22:33
  I'm never coming back.
• 22:36
  And then they end up back
• 22:37
  there the next year.
• 22:38
  Yeah, just how, like,
• 22:38
  I'm never going to do the
• 22:40
  individual and team competition again,
• 22:42
  and then they do it.
• 22:44
  Right.
• 22:45
  So here is Angela's response.
• 22:48
  Is it just, like, you do keep going back,
• 22:50
  so, like,
• 22:51
  do you think next year
• 22:52
  somebody's going to be like, oh,
• 22:53
  I'll be on this, and it's two buddies,
• 22:54
  and it sounds like a really good time?
• 22:55
  Like,
• 22:55
  you think you're going to do it again?
• 22:57
  If I forget how...
• 23:00
  horrible it is i want and i
• 23:03
  even mentioned that i want
• 23:04
  to do i want everyone to
• 23:04
  hit me in the nuts i want
• 23:06
  you to hit me square in the
• 23:07
  nuts when i say yeah i
• 23:08
  think i'll do water palooza
• 23:09
  you know i'll get i'm in
• 23:11
  yeah yeah i think i'll do
• 23:12
  or just shoot me in the
• 23:13
  nuts of the broadhead how
• 23:18
  about that shoot me in the
• 23:19
  nuts of the broadhead so
• 23:22
  apparently angelo does not
• 23:24
  want to go back to water
• 23:24
  palooza next year sounds like it yeah
• 23:28
  I mean,
• 23:28
  he doesn't really know what he's into,
• 23:30
  so I assume.
• 23:34
  He actually takes a long
• 23:36
  time going through event by
• 23:37
  event why this year was so
• 23:39
  bad at Waterpalooza.
• 23:43
  And it's a great listen if
• 23:45
  you want to hear.
• 23:46
  And it's not, you know,
• 23:49
  the weather can't be controlled.
• 23:51
  Right.
• 23:52
  But how you react to it can be.
• 23:54
  And that's kind of what he's saying.
• 23:57
  And Rich throughout the
• 23:58
  podcast is saying it's the
• 24:00
  best atmosphere.
• 24:02
  It's the coolest event.
• 24:04
  If we could just get the
• 24:05
  programming down and if you
• 24:10
  pick to go in one direction
• 24:12
  because of the weather,
• 24:13
  stick with that direction.
• 24:17
  um there are times he says
• 24:18
  that one the gap between
• 24:21
  they did handstand walks
• 24:22
  wall walks it was like 72
• 24:25
  inches he banged his head
• 24:27
  like three times on the the
• 24:29
  beam and i heard hopper say
• 24:31
  the same thing yeah i heard
• 24:33
  like and it was wet because
• 24:35
  it was raining so your
• 24:36
  hands are slipping yeah
• 24:37
  sure you couldn't do a
• 24:38
  controlled descent um
• 24:42
  He said Christoph Horvath
• 24:44
  had to go to the side
• 24:46
  because he's six foot four
• 24:48
  to even be able to do a wall walk.
• 24:50
  I can imagine Charlie having
• 24:51
  that same problem.
• 24:52
  Listen,
• 24:53
  at what point do we just do the
• 24:55
  work and not complain about stupid stuff?
• 25:01
  I thought CrossFit was like
• 25:02
  we could adjust and adapt to anything.
• 25:04
  So now we got to be like, well,
• 25:08
  if this isn't this way and
• 25:09
  this isn't this way,
• 25:10
  then I'm going to complain about
• 25:13
  Okay.
• 25:14
  Charlie, I'm going to agree with you.
• 25:17
  Just go.
• 25:18
  It didn't hurt.
• 25:19
  Some people seem to be just fine.
• 25:24
  Everybody fall and hit their head?
• 25:26
  No.
• 25:32
  Andrew Stensa did appear.
• 25:34
  The bar heights were seen low,
• 25:37
  which is strange since they
• 25:38
  worked with the PFAA.
• 25:41
  I think that's what's the
• 25:41
  crazy thing for me.
• 25:43
  This was supposed to be a
• 25:44
  partnership with the PFAA
• 25:46
  and Wadapalooza.
• 25:48
  And now you're getting more
• 25:49
  complaints about safety
• 25:50
  concerns than when PFA wasn't there.
• 25:53
  Hmm.
• 25:57
  Interesting.
• 26:00
  So, who knows?
• 26:03
  Everybody's different heights.
• 26:04
  You can't do everything
• 26:05
  perfect for everybody.
• 26:08
  The reason I really found
• 26:09
  the Angelo thing funny is
• 26:11
  I've heard that from a lot
• 26:12
  of athletes that I talk to
• 26:13
  when I'm there.
• 26:14
  When I was at Wadapalooza in the past,
• 26:17
  I would see them and they're like,
• 26:18
  I'm not coming back next year.
• 26:21
  You know, this is a shit show.
• 26:23
  I'm not coming back.
• 26:24
  And every year they come back.
• 26:26
  Right.
• 26:26
  Nobody makes you to come back.
• 26:29
  So...
• 26:33
  We'll put somebody up in 14th place.
• 26:36
  It's fine.
• 26:42
  Oh, boy.
• 26:44
  Wow.
• 26:45
  Charlie's turned into the grumpy old man.
• 26:47
  The people's champ is fired up.
• 26:50
  Yeah, give him an award, man,
• 26:52
  and he's getting all puffy.
• 26:54
  It's like, stop your complaining.
• 26:56
  Just get to work.
• 26:57
  Let me work.
• 26:57
  There you go.
• 27:01
  Well,
• 27:02
  the sun was in my eyes because we
• 27:03
  went at four o'clock,
• 27:05
  which changes to two o'clock.
• 27:13
  I think sun in my eyes and
• 27:15
  banging my head off of the
• 27:16
  rig post are two different things.
• 27:19
  Show more athleticism.
• 27:21
  There's that too.
• 27:26
  Wow.
• 27:28
  New event director for Guadalupalooza,
• 27:30
  Charlie Odie.
• 27:32
  I'd just throw them right out.
• 27:34
  Oh, is that right?
• 27:35
  Get out.
• 27:35
  You're done.
• 27:37
  You've been withdrawn.
• 27:42
  Well, on that note,
• 27:43
  I do want to end with a positive today.
• 27:46
  And that is,
• 27:47
  if you have not seen the
• 27:48
  interview with Denise Moore
• 27:50
  that I did on Sunday,
• 27:52
  got to check it out.
• 27:54
  It totally surprised me,
• 27:55
  caught me off guard.
• 27:57
  We had a long conversation.
• 27:59
  None of it was in my notes.
• 28:01
  Denise was a breast cancer
• 28:02
  survivor who went on to
• 28:05
  make the games afterwards.
• 28:07
  But she also had
• 28:08
  reconstructive surgery
• 28:10
  through it and got sick
• 28:12
  from the implants.
• 28:14
  I hear a lot about that.
• 28:17
  She had kidneys that started to fail her,
• 28:21
  got super sick, had them removed,
• 28:24
  talked about how they
• 28:25
  insert them by cutting the
• 28:27
  pec muscle and how that has
• 28:28
  affected her to this day,
• 28:31
  where push-ups are harder for her.
• 28:36
  And it's one of the best interviews I've,
• 28:39
  I think we've ever done
• 28:41
  just because of her in the subject matter,
• 28:44
  what she's overcome.
• 28:46
  She won legends this year,
• 28:47
  65 plus after all of this.
• 28:52
  But it's such a cool story.
• 29:00
  And Holly says such a good interview.
• 29:02
  She's amazing.
• 29:06
  But it was really good.
• 29:06
  So I highly recommend that.
• 29:08
  It's out there live on YouTube now.
• 29:10
  She's such a fighter and you
• 29:12
  should really check it out.
• 29:14
  And I think she's going to do well.
• 29:15
  This is her first year in the 65 plus.
• 29:21
  So this is her go time.
• 29:23
  The only thing is that she
• 29:26
  is the exact same age as Susan Clark,
• 29:28
  who has won the games like
• 29:31
  four bazillion times.
• 29:35
  So she has to fight with her,
• 29:37
  but she's going to give it a go.
• 29:40
  And with that, that's all I got, guys.
• 29:45
  Got anything else before we head out?
• 29:46
  Yeah,
• 29:46
  I'm going to leave you guys with this
• 29:48
  question that I asked in my
• 29:50
  class because we did
• 29:50
  thruster today and it was rough.
• 29:53
  And so I said, here's a would you rather.
• 29:56
  Would you rather,
• 29:57
  and we can't ask a bunch of
• 29:59
  caveat questions like, well,
• 30:00
  it depends on the, this,
• 30:01
  just would you rather this or that?
• 30:04
  Would you rather do
• 30:05
  thrusters or devil's pressed?
• 30:16
  Thrusters.
• 30:18
  Yeah, I think I said thrusters too,
• 30:20
  but I see the thrusters to
• 30:22
  me are also the devil.
• 30:24
  And so that's why it was hard.
• 30:28
  I forget what you said today, Charlie.
• 30:30
  Thrusters?
• 30:32
  Yes, because I don't want to do a burpee.
• 30:34
  Yeah.
• 30:36
  But the thing with the
• 30:37
  burpee is you can lay on the ground.
• 30:38
  I mean,
• 30:39
  the movement doesn't have to keep
• 30:40
  going until you get up off the ground.
• 30:43
  With a thruster, like you're in motion.
• 30:45
  You got to keep going.
• 30:48
  Mine are typically too zombie,
• 30:50
  but I was keeping it clean for the show.
• 30:53
  All right, guys.
• 30:58
  Well, it's been a fun half hour.
• 31:00
  I know, Amy, you've got a meeting.
• 31:02
  I do.
• 31:04
  We will check you all next week.
• 31:07
  Check the time.
• 31:08
  We may have to adjust a
• 31:09
  little bit for Kat's new schedule,
• 31:12
  but we will see you all
• 31:13
  next week on the Clydesdale
• 31:15
  Media Roundtable.
• 31:17
  with a working opening next week.
• 31:19
  Bye guys.