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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 4-4-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Langwald is our Broncos insider Altitude Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 2: Insider I've covered the league while.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff legwad his appearances are always must listen radio. We
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  Speaker 1: on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Jeff Legwald on
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  Speaker 1: a broad afternoon, brought to you by the International Brotherhood
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  Speaker 1: of Electrical Workers IBW Local sixty eight. Start with a
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  Speaker 1: job and with a career. It's the start of the
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  Speaker 1: career for Sheduer Sanders and Travis Hunter and all of
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  Speaker 1: the young stars that are going into the NFL Draft
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  Speaker 1: from the University of Colorado. Jeff Legwald, he was not
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  Speaker 1: hard to find at the showcase. Today he covers the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos in the NFL and the NFL Draft for ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: and he's with us right now. Leggy. How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great? Are you guys?
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  Speaker 1: We're doing great?
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  Speaker 2: Leggy? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: First things first, you you've done the pro day circuit before,
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  Speaker 1: you've you've seen these things a time or two. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: clearly everything is we'll call it unique when you enter
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  Speaker 1: into the coach prime sphere. Uh, where where does today
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  Speaker 1: sort of stack up for you in terms of pro
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  Speaker 1: day spectacles that you've seen in your life?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I probably wasn't quite too uh University of
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  Speaker 2: Miami in the heyday and made a couple of those
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  Speaker 2: back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Probably saw someome stuff. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and uh, Scouts always talk about by
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  Speaker 2: US Pro Day too for kind of you know, pumping
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  Speaker 2: it up and all that.
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  Speaker 1: I remember Zach Wilson's performance at a BYU pro day
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  Speaker 1: was pretty damn good looking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean they've always had the reputation in
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  Speaker 2: recent years for having one of those pro days, Like
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  Speaker 2: Scouts like going to that is a you know, humdrome
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  Speaker 2: another day on the road. Yeah, but this was very
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  Speaker 2: much you know, they they you could tell that they
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  Speaker 2: were intent. You know, he he's always said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: his quote has always been it's about the NFL, not
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  Speaker 2: the NIL And I think that was the message, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was it was, hey, come look at us. You
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  Speaker 2: know there was ah, it ran on time. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they were efficient. You could tell he was very intent
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  Speaker 2: on making that a very structured event for his guys
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  Speaker 2: to show to put on a show. I mean he
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  Speaker 2: he basically was saying, hey, this is a show. Go
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  Speaker 2: go show them what you can do. And I thought, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was really uh. I think the people
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  Speaker 2: I talked to came away with you know that things
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  Speaker 2: ran on time, it moved along, that it didn't drag along.
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  Speaker 2: They were professional about it. And I think that was
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  Speaker 2: the message he wanted to send. You want to be able,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to all in this nil world. You know,
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  Speaker 2: everything is is an advantage, and I think they I
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  Speaker 2: think Dean Sanders is very much trying to tell young players, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you want to be where we and learn how to
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  Speaker 2: be an NFL player? Come here, all right?
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  Speaker 3: How do you think how do you think Shador starting
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  Speaker 3: with him did, How do you think everybody else did?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's some interesting analysis on NFL network. They
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  Speaker 3: love the deep ball. They had some criticism basically if
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  Speaker 3: some of the shorter passes, they said it tailed a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. What was your thought on how he did
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  Speaker 3: throwing the ball today?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Andy, I thought they were very smart. You could
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  Speaker 2: tell they put together a collection of throws. He was
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  Speaker 2: very good at it. I would guess, Uh not guess,
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  Speaker 2: but I would bet you that he did this exact
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  Speaker 2: workout multiple times leading up to this, right down to
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  Speaker 2: each individual throw in the order that he did them,
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  Speaker 2: so he was very prepared for this day. I think
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  Speaker 2: he was very intent on showing he could come back
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  Speaker 2: from center, that he could do three, five and seven
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  Speaker 2: step drops, because he was really smooth doing those things.
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  Speaker 2: He did some play action out from under center and
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  Speaker 2: out of the gun. I think he wanted to show people, look,
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  Speaker 2: I could run NFL stuff. Here I am doing it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he wanted to show he could throw
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  Speaker 2: on the move a little bit. And the deep ball
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  Speaker 2: was very pretty, so he covered that, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: shorter stuff. I think he was trying to muscle up
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  Speaker 2: a little bit and throw it and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: why he got a little bit of the tail.
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  Speaker 1: Talking to Jeff Legwald here breaking down the CU Pro
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  Speaker 1: Day in terms of the teams at the top, and
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  Speaker 1: we know that they were well represented today at CU's
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  Speaker 1: Pro Day. But Leggie, in terms of reading leaves, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: from just kind of looking around and seeing who was
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  Speaker 1: in attendance, what did you take away from who was
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  Speaker 1: there to watch Shador Sanders throw the football and who
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  Speaker 1: was there to see Travis Hunter run routes?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Nate, I think you know, Cleveland made
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  Speaker 2: this a very big.
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  Speaker 1: Weekend for them.
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  Speaker 2: They they took the two guys out for you know,
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  Speaker 2: the formal dinner last last night, and the team owner
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  Speaker 2: was here, Jim Haslam, you know, the top team brass.
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  Speaker 2: So I think they were the most prominent in terms
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  Speaker 2: of executives. Now, the Titans have a private workout with
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  Speaker 2: both of them scheduled next week, so some will make,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some note of who didn't come for the Titans,
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  Speaker 2: but they're getting their own look at both guys, and
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  Speaker 2: I think both guys will you know, do drills and
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  Speaker 2: throw and whatever the Titans want them to do in
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  Speaker 2: a private workout. That's the power of the number one pick.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that the Browns were the most, you know,
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  Speaker 2: flexing the most today. But he has had a good
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  Speaker 2: contingent because it's close. But everybody was here. I saw
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  Speaker 2: so many coaches and scouts I know, and personnel people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this was this was one of the most
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  Speaker 2: one of the best attended Pro days I've been to.
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  Speaker 3: What do you make of Dave All not being there.
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  Speaker 3: Watching Get Up this morning on your very network. They
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about how dab All wouldn't be there now,
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  Speaker 3: Mike Tannenbaum said, and that means they're not picking him
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  Speaker 3: because he'd be at the Pro day if you wanted.
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  Speaker 3: And Graziano said that, no, Da b All never attends
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  Speaker 3: a pro day. What do you make of it? And
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  Speaker 3: him being shador by the way, I should probably clarify that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've never seen day Ball in the Pro Day,
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  Speaker 2: so I I and Dan Grasiano Graus covered him in
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  Speaker 2: New York, so he knows him. So I again, we
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  Speaker 2: all try to fit the tea leaves this time of year,
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  Speaker 2: and I think sometimes it's very dangerous to make assumptions
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  Speaker 2: about you know what they're gonna do. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos drafted Cutler in the first round and never spoke
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  Speaker 2: to him one time leading up to the drafts, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, take your pick what you want to believe.
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  Speaker 2: I think the fact you know it's all on video,
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  Speaker 2: day Ball can see exactly what went on from any
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  Speaker 2: angle he wants it if he wants to. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that precludes them from picking him.
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  Speaker 1: We're kicking it with Jeff Legwald here on a Friday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald's appearance is brought to you by the International
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  Speaker 1: Brotherhood of Electrical Workers IBW Local sixty eight. You start
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  Speaker 1: with the job and you end with a career real quick.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry to cut you off, but good good eyes
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  Speaker 3: by Mark Springer. Hey, guess what, Jeff picture from the
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  Speaker 3: Giants of Dabo actually in attendance.
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  Speaker 2: Sh Yeah, I didn't. I didn't see again. It was packed.
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  Speaker 2: It was absolutely packed. I you know, I had people
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  Speaker 2: texting me, hey, I'm here, like, you know, let's talk.
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  Speaker 2: And I never found them, you know. So it's just like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: there were as many and they you know, there were
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  Speaker 2: some fans and visitors and family. It was it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they made it. They did it upright. I think if
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna do a pro day, I think that's how
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  Speaker 2: you should do it. Make it a big deal for
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  Speaker 2: the kids. It's a one cell, a lifetime thing. Just
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  Speaker 2: just making a big deal and let them let them
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  Speaker 2: go out there and do their thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then and I thought they looked impressive. It was
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  Speaker 1: a good looking event on television. Jeff.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll tell you. Joannas Hunter ran routes. If people
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  Speaker 2: had concerns about the uh, and I you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: been told and I've seen in games his routes were
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  Speaker 2: a little muddy and games, uh, they were precise. Today
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  Speaker 2: they were sharp. He hit the hash marks. See, he
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  Speaker 2: showed footwork. I mean, you know, sure people want a
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  Speaker 2: forty from him, but today they saw a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: of Travis Hunter wide receiver and there will be some
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  Speaker 2: teams who say he is the number one receiver on
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  Speaker 2: the board.
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  Speaker 1: The Schadour conversation Leggie to that point has you know,
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  Speaker 1: it sucks up so much oxygen because it's a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and because you know, it's a little sexier. Right, he
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  Speaker 1: could be sliding like Travis Hunters going in the top
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  Speaker 1: five at the draft. He's probably going in the top
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  Speaker 1: three of the draft. It's it seems pretty certain. Hard
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  Speaker 1: to believe there's a world where he would fall beyond
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  Speaker 1: New England at number four either way. With Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 1: there today. I mean, Leggy, the words, you know, words
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  Speaker 1: like generational talent get tossed around with him. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Johnson earlier today telling Scott Hastings that, according to
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  Speaker 1: Gary Barnett, who's seen a thing or two. It's the
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  Speaker 1: greatest college football player that he has ever seen in
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  Speaker 1: his life. Travis Hunter is viewed as a sure thing,
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  Speaker 1: can't miss kind of player. For those teams that are
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  Speaker 1: at the top that maybe aren't in love with Shador,
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  Speaker 1: like the Browns, like the New York Giants, they got
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  Speaker 1: to be just falling all over themselves when they see
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  Speaker 1: Travis Hunt, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the issue for him is you got to
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  Speaker 2: have a plan. He won't be the best he can
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  Speaker 2: be at something unless you have a very definitive plan.
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  Speaker 2: You can't sort of say he's an offensive player sometimes
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  Speaker 2: and a defensive player sometimes, because then he won't be
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  Speaker 2: his best at something. And I think that was when
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to Champ Bailey about it. That was always
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  Speaker 2: Champs point. At some point you have to pick a
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  Speaker 2: side of the ball and dial in if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be a long term pro. And guess what I had.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been a tons of pro days, I
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  Speaker 2: mean tons, and I had some of the most fun
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  Speaker 2: today standing with Champ Bailey just talking about Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 2: and Shador. And then I was next to Champ when
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  Speaker 2: Shador was throwing, and you know, again, I you know,
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  Speaker 2: you do this to write about football and get to
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  Speaker 2: know people and see players and all those things, but
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  Speaker 2: to be there and sort of talking to Champ while
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  Speaker 2: he's watching all this play out in real time, because
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  Speaker 2: before Travis Champ is the is the best two way
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  Speaker 2: football player I've ever seen with my own eyes in
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  Speaker 2: a game in my in my entire career, and Travis
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  Speaker 2: is pretty damn close to that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's look man like that. That's a great guy
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  Speaker 1: to sit there and listen to in that situation. And
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  Speaker 1: exactly to that point, Jeff and you talked to Champ
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  Speaker 1: Bailey about it, like if clearly Tennessee's gonna take cam Ward,
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  Speaker 1: if you're Cleveland and you're the Giants, like those conversations
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  Speaker 1: they have to be happening right now, right like you
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  Speaker 1: have to you have to be going around the room
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  Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, how do we assemble this plan so
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  Speaker 1: that if we're using this this extremely valuable top three
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  Speaker 1: pick on this player, we are putting this guy in
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  Speaker 1: position to be a Hall of Famer, to absolutely reach
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  Speaker 1: his potential. Like it can't be one of those things
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  Speaker 1: of like, well we think we might work him in
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  Speaker 1: on offense, like hopefully those teams, and granted they're not
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  Speaker 1: good teams. They're bad, that's why they're picking in the
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  Speaker 1: top three. But hopefully they're already having those conversations and
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  Speaker 1: putting a roadmap in place for the guy.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you gotta know what Monday through Saturday is
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  Speaker 2: going to look like. Yeah, exactly what time does he
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  Speaker 2: go to the meetings, houses, recovery, you know all of
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  Speaker 2: these things. And again, even at best, the two way
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  Speaker 2: experiment is probably only a two or a three year
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  Speaker 2: thing until the one side of the ball becomes very
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  Speaker 2: spot duty because a snap count durability concerns. You have
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  Speaker 2: to practice in the NFL. He could not ruxture his
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  Speaker 2: week like he did here when you know he went
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  Speaker 2: very late in the week here before he would sort
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  Speaker 2: of return to full activity. That ain't gonna fly in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. He's gonna have to practice, and that's always
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  Speaker 2: been Champs point. It's you have to have a practice
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  Speaker 2: plan for him or he will never be as good
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  Speaker 2: as he can be on one side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Let alone.
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  Speaker 3: Two, let's talk about Will Sheppard. We talked about him
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  Speaker 3: a little bit with Tyler. I texted you in between
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  Speaker 3: things because again he's a big bodied receiver. How do
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  Speaker 3: you think he looked? And I I'm a fan of
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  Speaker 3: Lejonte Wester. He was always a fun kid to talk
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  Speaker 3: to after games. And I did notice speed at times.
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  Speaker 3: Does he have any shot at all? Is he too slight?
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  Speaker 3: And of course Jimmy Horn break down the other guys
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  Speaker 3: we saw catching the ball out there today.
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  Speaker 2: Well Horn ran great. Horn ran in the four fours,
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  Speaker 2: so that's always gets people attention when you're you drop
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  Speaker 2: a four to four on him, and he ran four
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  Speaker 2: to four flat, so that's almost I think his first
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  Speaker 2: forty was four to four flat on my watch. So
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  Speaker 2: and then, uh, I thought Shepherd had a great day.
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  Speaker 2: You wanna you wanna you know, you know, you guys know.
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  Speaker 2: I always say that the movement after a Pro day
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  Speaker 2: or the combine is exaggerated in the media compared to
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  Speaker 2: the real world of on NFL draft boards. But if
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  Speaker 2: you were gonna make a move on a Pro day,
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  Speaker 2: you have one like Shepherd did. He was spectacular. He
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  Speaker 2: jumped forty and a half, which is that's as good
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  Speaker 2: as anybody. I mean, Calvin Johnson is that's Calvin Johnson's
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  Speaker 2: vertical jump zone.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then dropped. He dropped two four fives back to back.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's explosiveness and functional speed. So uh, that's
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  Speaker 2: a great workout for a guy with his frame. I
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  Speaker 2: mean that's you're you're talking just over six two. We
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  Speaker 2: measured in at just over six to two and and
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  Speaker 2: one ninety six. So that's a big frame receiver who
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  Speaker 2: showed a lot of explosiveness. And when they were throwing,
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  Speaker 2: he looked very good and drill. So I beyond the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the marquee guys, he I think he was
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  Speaker 2: the guy who had the best gay uh and helped
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  Speaker 2: himself the most. But the receivers all looked very good.
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  Speaker 2: That you know, Chadour is a very accurate quarterback. And
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  Speaker 2: if you want to be a receiver who gets some
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  Speaker 2: love on a pro day, get a quarterback who puts
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  Speaker 2: it in frame as much as Shadoor does on obvious
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  Speaker 2: you know pros that were obviously he was very comfortable
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  Speaker 2: with with players. He was very comfortable with and I
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  Speaker 2: thought Dion Sanders was pretty smart. He it sounded like
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  Speaker 2: he framed it to these guys, Hey, this might be
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  Speaker 2: the last time you're on the field together. Really enjoy
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  Speaker 2: it and show something, and I think that concept helped
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  Speaker 2: all the guys.
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  Speaker 1: Very cool stuff right there. Jeff Lake was up at
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  Speaker 1: the CU Pro Day today, Leggy. We got to ask you, though,
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  Speaker 1: before you roll out of here tomorrow at four o'clock Florida, Auburn,
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  Speaker 1: seven o'clock Houston, Duke, before we chat on Monday, who's
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  Speaker 1: going to be playing for the National Championship.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Duke Florida. Yeah, my, but Cinderella nowhere
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  Speaker 2: to be found. Nope, Baby, you're looking at four ones.
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  Speaker 1: Chalk all over the place now, and I'm with you. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the biggest thing, Leggy, Duke Florida is the game
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  Speaker 1: I want to watch. That's the biggest thing, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I just, I guess part of me just wants to
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  Speaker 2: see flag in a game for all the marbles, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to see what that looks like because
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  Speaker 2: it'll be the only one he plays in. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's moving on. Yeah, let's say I think they all are.
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  Speaker 1: I think my watch is moving on. I think Nipple's
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  Speaker 1: moving on. I think they're all moving on. But guess
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  Speaker 1: what Shire's gonna get Carlos Boozers kids next year. So
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be just fine. Jeff Legwald. Everybody see you
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  Speaker 1: pro day he was up there to cover it. Read
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  Speaker 1: to stuff at ESPN dot com. Jeff Legwald. Great work
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  Speaker 1: as always, man, Thank you, Thanks Smilas Jeff Legwald. Brought
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