Latest / First Thing Today with Joe Thomas / "Price Gouging" (Tuesday, January 27, 2026, Hour 2)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: I just want to tell you one thing.
- 0:04Speaker 2: I'm a relatively you listener.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Maybe you think you're six months so, and I just
- 0:09Speaker 3: love you because I think you're so quirky.
- 0:11Speaker 4: And I understand for on a needs to know basis,
- 0:15Speaker 4: because you need to know the first thing today George.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Said, steal me step.
- 0:24Speaker 5: You have a day at least for work when the
- 0:28Speaker 5: sun comes up.
- 0:29Speaker 2: A kid just good.
- 0:32Speaker 6: Joey is a thing a Jane do.
- 0:34Speaker 7: All the jas needs.
- 0:37Speaker 5: The one that Joe's smile.
- 0:39Speaker 1: He only is.
- 0:44Speaker 8: Joe.
- 0:45Speaker 9: I take that as a badge of honor, you know,
- 0:47Speaker 9: honest to goodness. A lot of people are like, what
- 0:52Speaker 9: you know what? You know what quirky says to me?
- 0:54Speaker 9: There's d D from yesterday's UH program listening to us
- 0:58Speaker 9: in Courtpalis, and you know what quirky means to me.
- 1:01Speaker 9: We're not flying with the rest of the flock, nor
- 1:06Speaker 9: are we supposed to. We have we have simple principles.
- 1:13Speaker 9: And this is why the Obvius skaters want us to
- 1:16Speaker 9: think that America is this complex philosophy that you have
- 1:23Speaker 9: to get multiple postgraduate degrees in before you can even
- 1:28Speaker 9: participate in.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And that's not true.
- 1:33Speaker 9: And they do it to gaslight us. They do it
- 1:35Speaker 9: to gaslight us into thinking that, oh ma, you can't
- 1:39Speaker 9: handle Let me say, Adam Smith. Have you read Adam Smith.
- 1:43Speaker 4: No, not the guy.
- 1:44Speaker 9: He's not the guy that Mel Gibson played in Poconnas.
- 1:47Speaker 9: It's not even in Focahontas. Vocantis certainly doesn't understand Adam Smith,
- 1:53Speaker 9: and Adam Smith hasn't been in Washington in sixty years.
- 2:03Speaker 9: But it's the reason that Carpenter Rabbi from Galilee stopped
- 2:09Speaker 9: with the fallen woman at the well prostitute. However you
- 2:13Speaker 9: want to, the translations say all different things about her
- 2:17Speaker 9: in Samaria while his boys went off to run, you know,
- 2:21Speaker 9: to look for Samaria's versions of Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz.
- 2:32Speaker 9: None of them stopped and said, well, why isn't Jesus
- 2:34Speaker 9: coming with us? Huh what's he talking to her for?
- 2:37Speaker 9: She's not going to help us do anything. Doesn't he
- 2:40Speaker 9: know how important the politicians are in this city? And
- 2:47Speaker 9: that's quirky, and kirky is great. Kirky is exactly what
- 2:53Speaker 9: we should all strive to be. And you know what,
- 3:00Speaker 9: it's not lonely. They tell you, oh you'll be alone.
- 3:02Speaker 9: Nobody will agree. Yeah, no, if you will, And I
- 3:06Speaker 9: was to jump off of something Joel was saying right
- 3:09Speaker 9: before we went to the news, And if you missed that,
- 3:13Speaker 9: go to the podcasts. We distributed them through Spotify and
- 3:17Speaker 9: iHeart and Apple Podcasts and all of that, and you
- 3:21Speaker 9: can find it at Joe Thomas in Themorning dot com.
- 3:25Speaker 9: He brought up poverty. Poverty being poor is and I
- 3:31Speaker 9: know that there's people that are, Oh, it's just a
- 3:33Speaker 9: state of mind. But what's happened in the United States
- 3:39Speaker 9: economically is that for years, even through the Great Depression,
- 3:44Speaker 9: people were able to find subsistence somewhere. And what has
- 3:51Speaker 9: happened in the United States these days is that we're
- 3:54Speaker 9: finding it harder and harder to find that subsistence to
- 4:00Speaker 9: make the ends meet. We'll get into that a little
- 4:03Speaker 9: bit more, but as we sit here in between the
- 4:06Speaker 9: Fabians and the Marxists, let me bring you our first
- 4:10Speaker 9: things this morning.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Wrapped in purple out of Minnesota.
- 4:17Speaker 9: Last night, the President met with Christy Nome, DHS secretary,
- 4:22Speaker 9: and her top aide, Corey Lewandowski for over two hours
- 4:26Speaker 9: at Nome's request. This comes after he replaced Commander at
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- 4:40Speaker 9: the President Governor waltz Cheers. He wrote to Truth Social
- 4:47Speaker 9: the Governor very respectfully understood the change. I'll be speaking
- 4:50Speaker 9: with him in the near future. He was happy that
- 4:52Speaker 9: Tom Homan was coming to Minnesota, and so am I
- 4:59Speaker 9: second amend Advocates are railing against statements made by President
- 5:03Speaker 9: Trump's officials in the wake of the shooting in Minnesota.
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- 5:38Speaker 2: It's that simple.
- 5:39Speaker 9: Eric Pratt, vice president of Gun Owners of America, who
- 5:43Speaker 9: just back on Martin Luther King Day, was at a
- 5:46Speaker 9: rally full of people armed with me and said, I've
- 5:49Speaker 9: attended protest rallies while armed and no one got injured.
- 5:53Speaker 9: I was standing next to him at the most recent
- 5:57Speaker 9: Senate Homeland Security and Governmental affair. Mayer's committee chair Rand
- 6:01Speaker 9: Paul has called for three top immigration officials to testify
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- 6:28Speaker 9: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said that Monday, three
- 6:31Speaker 9: distinct inquiries were underway into the fatal shootings in Minnesota,
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- 13:29Speaker 9: Until the ready Email to JT in the Morning Radio
- 13:34Speaker 9: at gmail dot com. Bless you for riding along with
- 13:37Speaker 9: me this morning, Mike writes in Quirky, defined as using
- 13:43Speaker 9: a song by the artist Fabian to introduce a segment
- 13:49Speaker 9: about Fabian socialism. Quirky right, fine, guilty as charged.
- 13:57Speaker 18: You know.
- 13:59Speaker 9: We have to under stand a couple of things and
- 14:01Speaker 9: I know that I get accused frequently of not giving
- 14:05Speaker 9: the appropriate amount of gravity to some of these situations
- 14:09Speaker 9: that we find ourselves in, and it is because I
- 14:15Speaker 9: believe in you more than them, and I want to
- 14:19Speaker 9: satirize them. I don't care who they are, if they
- 14:22Speaker 9: if they try to tell you aside from the basics,
- 14:26Speaker 9: like here's how we'll punish you if you steal someone's stop,
- 14:31Speaker 9: if they're involved in any way, shape or form of
- 14:34Speaker 9: trying to take away your agency, I'm against it.
- 14:41Speaker 2: I'm here for you.
- 14:44Speaker 9: And all of the rest of them deserve all the
- 14:47Speaker 9: satire I can pull together, even if it is doing
- 14:51Speaker 9: something kind of offbeat, like using a by the way,
- 14:55Speaker 9: a great Fabian song.
- 14:58Speaker 2: To introduce a just.
- 15:00Speaker 9: Ession of Fabian socialism, because I knew the Fabian socialism
- 15:03Speaker 9: stuff was going to get a little deep. A little dude,
- 15:07Speaker 9: I'm just trying to get a cup of coffee in
- 15:09Speaker 9: me and get my day started or wrapped up. So
- 15:15Speaker 9: guilty is charged if you, but we're trying to bring
- 15:22Speaker 9: some yucks as well into it, because the worst thing
- 15:25Speaker 9: you can do to these puffed up so and sos
- 15:30Speaker 9: is to not take them seriously. But they do serious things.
- 15:36Speaker 9: I'm not saying they don't, and when they do, we
- 15:44Speaker 9: will report on it. But we will also report on
- 15:50Speaker 9: it in such a way as to make sure that
- 15:52Speaker 9: they're not enjoying any of the puffery that they think
- 15:57Speaker 9: their high office deserves. We were talking about this. Here's
- 16:06Speaker 9: a great example. So there's a fine line, and I
- 16:12Speaker 9: was checking on this. Virginia is in as is Tennessee,
- 16:17Speaker 9: and Georgia and Texas, so many of our states, Connecticut
- 16:22Speaker 9: in these winter storm emergencies that have triggered anti gouging laws,
- 16:31Speaker 9: and there are so many of them all over the place, Virginia, Connecticut.
- 16:36Speaker 9: Here's Connecticut selling products, energy resources, or services during a
- 16:40Speaker 9: declared state of emergency for more than an acceptable market
- 16:45Speaker 9: price as determined by the state. Alaska, no price gouging laws.
- 16:52Speaker 9: God bless you up there in Fairbanks, Alabama. You know
- 16:57Speaker 9: there's a rock ribbed red state right charge unconscionable prices
- 17:02Speaker 9: for commodities or rental facilities. Now they define it as
- 17:08Speaker 9: twenty five percent or more over usual prices, and they define.
- 17:15Speaker 2: A look back period.
- 17:16Speaker 9: See now, if you're going to write something and say, okay,
- 17:19Speaker 9: we'll look back thirty days and see what you were
- 17:21Speaker 9: charging for something.
- 17:23Speaker 2: However, I still.
- 17:24Speaker 9: Worry about these anti gouging laws. California selling necessary supplies
- 17:33Speaker 9: after a declared state of emergency for more than ten
- 17:36Speaker 9: percent over the usual cost up to a ten thousand
- 17:42Speaker 9: dollars fine. Colorado charging excessive prices for food, building materials,
- 17:49Speaker 9: food fuel, and other necessities during declared disaster. The look
- 17:56Speaker 9: back period is immediate one day two days before the disaster.
- 18:03Speaker 9: Civil penalties of up to twenty thousand dollars.
- 18:06Speaker 2: There.
- 18:06Speaker 9: Let's just say hands it with Florida selling commodities, household essentials, rentals,
- 18:13Speaker 9: and that's covering hotels and things like that. And the
- 18:19Speaker 9: thing that I worry about in this, and we're going
- 18:21Speaker 9: to bring a legal expert on to talk about gouging,
- 18:24Speaker 9: and not just in Virginia but all over the place,
- 18:27Speaker 9: is that this is a recipe and I've seen it
- 18:33Speaker 9: hasn't happened here in Virginia, but it has happened where
- 18:36Speaker 9: people are hit with high costs of getting the materials
- 18:42Speaker 9: that they then have to eat. So let's say you
- 18:48Speaker 9: sell gas and it's going to cost the distributor more
- 18:53Speaker 9: to get a tractor trailer into your filling station. So
- 19:00Speaker 9: up charged you on the cost of the delivery of
- 19:03Speaker 9: the gasoline, so you factor that in. Next thing, you know,
- 19:07Speaker 9: the Attorney General's at your door charging you with a
- 19:10Speaker 9: twenty thousand dollars fine for price gouging even though you
- 19:14Speaker 9: were just taking the price. And their answer is well,
- 19:17Speaker 9: then you call the police and say that the gasoline
- 19:23Speaker 9: distributor price gouged.
- 19:24Speaker 2: But did they.
- 19:27Speaker 9: They have a multimillion dollar truck full of multimillions of
- 19:31Speaker 9: dollars worth of gasoline, highly commessible trying to drive along
- 19:36Speaker 9: icy roads trying to get.
- 19:37Speaker 2: To a gas station.
- 19:39Speaker 9: You think they need to factor in the chance that
- 19:41Speaker 9: something might go sideways, and that we need to make
- 19:44Speaker 9: sure that their drivers have all the things.
- 19:50Speaker 2: I should post this.
- 19:51Speaker 9: We've had a whole list of these all over the
- 19:53Speaker 9: place up in Sandpoint, Idaho's Consumer p Act. Again, this
- 20:01Speaker 9: is this hubris of the fabian that they must protect
- 20:05Speaker 9: you against somebody who is going to gouge.
- 20:11Speaker 2: What did we say? What's this? Have we figured out?
- 20:16Speaker 9: If Lawrence Ford is going to come back on with
- 20:18Speaker 9: us from the Conscious Capital founders, he and I had
- 20:21Speaker 9: a great chat at seapack that microphones failed us. But
- 20:25Speaker 9: I want to have him back on because he and
- 20:27Speaker 9: I were talking about my theory that you know, the
- 20:30Speaker 9: United States has Ben Franklin and John Adams theory that
- 20:34Speaker 9: the United States Constitution is ill equipped to deal with
- 20:37Speaker 9: an immoral society. And his point was capitalism in and
- 20:41Speaker 9: of itself is incapable of operating without a morality. And
- 20:47Speaker 9: you look at all of these anti price gouging laws
- 20:54Speaker 9: across the country. If there was a thirty nine, thirty
- 20:59Speaker 9: nine out of the fifty states have some Louisiana selling
- 21:05Speaker 9: goods or services during declared state of emergency at a
- 21:09Speaker 9: gross disparity, again determined by the state after a look
- 21:14Speaker 9: back period of a day or two before the emergency.
- 21:21Speaker 9: What about our new friends down in Tennessee where they
- 21:24Speaker 9: hit with Oregon selling essential consumer goods or services after
- 21:31Speaker 9: a declaration of emergency at a price of more than
- 21:34Speaker 9: fifteen percent higher as based on the prices charged just
- 21:39Speaker 9: the day or two beforehand. Tennessee Anti Price Gouging Act
- 21:45Speaker 9: of two thousand and two, because so much good legislation
- 21:49Speaker 9: was written right after September eleventh, upon the declaration charging
- 21:53Speaker 9: grossly excessive prices as determined by the state, goods or services.
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- 30:35Speaker 9: that kind of thing. Winter storm comes the inevitable announcement
- 30:42Speaker 9: of states of emergency across the country, in Virginia no different.
- 30:47Speaker 9: And one of the things that are triggered when Virginia
- 30:49Speaker 9: declares the state of emergency is the inevitable swooping in
- 30:54Speaker 9: of a politician to say, I'm going to go after
- 30:56Speaker 9: anyone who's price gouging. Joining us is Scott Goodman, one
- 31:00Speaker 9: of the great defense attorneys in Virginia of the Goodman
- 31:05Speaker 9: Law Firm, and you can find them at Cville Lawyer
- 31:09Speaker 9: dot com.
- 31:10Speaker 2: Scott, thank you for taking a little time out with us.
- 31:12Speaker 2: How are you doing, sir? Pretty good?
- 31:14Speaker 20: Is back in from you know, backbreaking shoveling this morning.
- 31:17Speaker 20: But that's not a pretty good.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Job, isn't it? Ice breaking shoveling, Because if your yard's.
- 31:23Speaker 9: Anything like mine, you stand on the snow for a
- 31:25Speaker 9: few seconds until that first cost breaks and then you
- 31:28Speaker 9: come down about three inches.
- 31:30Speaker 20: Yeah, you got to stare at it. Hope it breaks up.
- 31:33Speaker 9: Yeah, but you know, hopefully you didn't overdo there. And
- 31:37Speaker 9: I appreciate you taking some time out with this. And
- 31:40Speaker 9: inevitably there was Attorney General J. Jones, who we all
- 31:46Speaker 9: are still stinging from the idea of what he said
- 31:48Speaker 9: about political opponents, uh, thinking about him going out with
- 31:52Speaker 9: his minions from the Attorney General's office looking for price gouging.
- 31:57Speaker 9: And every year I feel this way, even in the
- 32:00Speaker 9: Youngkin administration, I wondered, I said, is there really such
- 32:04Speaker 9: a thing as price gouging in Virginia or is this
- 32:07Speaker 9: just low hanging political fruit giving somebody an opportunity to say,
- 32:12Speaker 9: I'm going to go after you, mysterious law breaker.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Well, that's for sure.
- 32:18Speaker 20: I mean there's definitely politicians grand standing, and then you
- 32:22Speaker 20: can go over to price gouging, so you have two
- 32:24Speaker 20: evils there. So there is such a thing as price gouging,
- 32:30Speaker 20: And of course, like you said, it has to come
- 32:31Speaker 20: after a state of emergency has been declared, which it
- 32:34Speaker 20: has been now in Virginia, and so that brings the
- 32:36Speaker 20: law into effect. And basically it means that you can't
- 32:40Speaker 20: have things that are necessary for people to operate in
- 32:44Speaker 20: a storm batteries, food, water, tree removal services, hotels and
- 32:51Speaker 20: so forth, and have those prices be unconscionably higher than
- 32:56Speaker 20: the prices were in the ten days prior to the storm.
- 33:00Speaker 20: So of course it is difficult to be able to
- 33:02Speaker 20: make that case in some situations because it could cost
- 33:06Speaker 20: stores more money to have things like water, bottled water
- 33:10Speaker 20: and other materials brought in during a storm, so that
- 33:13Speaker 20: may cause them to raise prices. But in certain other
- 33:17Speaker 20: things like hotel rooms, those things are fairly fixed, and
- 33:20Speaker 20: you could see that with people having power out, they
- 33:24Speaker 20: often have to go to hotels in order to have
- 33:26Speaker 20: a roof over their head and be able to live
- 33:28Speaker 20: with their family, their children. And so if it's shown
- 33:31Speaker 20: that a hotel has jacked up prices one hundred dollars
- 33:34Speaker 20: over what that same room was selling for a previous
- 33:37Speaker 20: year or the previous ten days in a comparable period,
- 33:40Speaker 20: that's price gouging. That would be price gouging, taking advantage
- 33:43Speaker 20: of people.
- 33:44Speaker 9: Now I saw something, and you bring up hotel rooms.
- 33:47Speaker 9: We just recently were at the Consumer Electronics Show in
- 33:50Speaker 9: Las Vegas, and we stated this wonderful place called the
- 33:53Speaker 9: d down on Fremont Street, and I happen to because
- 33:57Speaker 9: I'm one of those guys. I read the little sign
- 34:00Speaker 9: on the back of the hotel room door because I
- 34:03Speaker 9: believe that's where the rate is set and the rate
- 34:07Speaker 9: for that room was fourteen thousand, five hundred and ninety
- 34:10Speaker 9: nine dollars a night, which Number one tells me that
- 34:14Speaker 9: every time I booked the room for forty nine dollars
- 34:17Speaker 9: a night, they're taking a huge tax right off on
- 34:20Speaker 9: what they would normally give us the as the rate,
- 34:24Speaker 9: and then beyond that, if there was an emergency, they
- 34:29Speaker 9: could say the advertised rate is fourteen thousand dollars a night.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Do you get some of that in pricing, because I think.
- 34:38Speaker 20: That hotel would really have to open his books and
- 34:40Speaker 20: showed that they really did charge fourteen thousand dollars for
- 34:43Speaker 20: that road nobody over the past period of time, So
- 34:47Speaker 20: I don't think that would be very easy for them
- 34:49Speaker 20: to be able to do. So. Price gouging can be
- 34:51Speaker 20: pretty apparent on his face when you see certain things
- 34:55Speaker 20: like that happened, rates going up, prices going up that
- 34:59Speaker 20: are way beyond on what the store was charging in
- 35:01Speaker 20: the ten days prior to the state of emergency.
- 35:04Speaker 9: Well so, as a defense attorney, and let's say I
- 35:09Speaker 9: run a bodega, and in my bodega it's become very
- 35:13Speaker 9: hard to get bottled water, and I'll even pull on
- 35:16Speaker 9: something non winter related the Deracho of a few years
- 35:20Speaker 9: ago where there were parts of Virginia without electricity for
- 35:24Speaker 9: a month, and so if it was hard for people
- 35:28Speaker 9: to get water in and therefore their supplier raised the
- 35:33Speaker 9: costs as well, I guess it becomes a matter of
- 35:38Speaker 9: finding a defense attorney to plead the case. If the
- 35:41Speaker 9: Attorney general came after you.
- 35:44Speaker 2: I think so.
- 35:45Speaker 20: And even without a lawyer, I think the business or
- 35:48Speaker 20: the supplier that can open the books and show that
- 35:50Speaker 20: this is what it costs them to get the water,
- 35:53Speaker 20: and that the percentage of the profit that they're adding
- 35:56Speaker 20: on top of that when they sell it to a
- 35:57Speaker 20: customer is basically the same as it was prior to
- 35:59Speaker 20: the state of emergency. That would again speak to the
- 36:02Speaker 20: fact that they're not price gouging and simply they're passing
- 36:06Speaker 20: along a higher cost that they have to the customer. Again,
- 36:10Speaker 20: if it can be shown that it's not costing them
- 36:12Speaker 20: anymore and they simply double the price just to take
- 36:15Speaker 20: advantage of a state of emergency or the state a
- 36:17Speaker 20: state where people are in desperate need for water, then
- 36:20Speaker 20: that would be different. Nobody wants to be price gouged,
- 36:25Speaker 20: and people don't want to be taken advantage of it.
- 36:28Speaker 20: So there's a fine line and if there is a
- 36:30Speaker 20: role for government to play if you have businesses taking
- 36:33Speaker 20: advantage of people, and where it's very clear that that
- 36:37Speaker 20: has gone on.
- 36:38Speaker 9: It just got a text message John Goodman with us
- 36:44Speaker 9: from Scott Goodman. John Goodman would be a whole different
- 36:47Speaker 9: kind of interview. I don't know if he has an
- 36:49Speaker 9: opinion on price gouging or not. Democrats this comes in
- 36:56Speaker 9: from the Hampton Roads area. Democrats have no issue with
- 37:00Speaker 9: tax gouging. They bring up and that's the awkward part
- 37:04Speaker 9: here in the Commonwealth, the governor just proposed more than
- 37:07Speaker 9: doubling Virginian's tax obligations there, which if you did it
- 37:13Speaker 9: to a price of gasoline in a winter storm, oh,
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- 37:19Speaker 9: the Attorney General stated belief that political opponents should face
- 37:25Speaker 9: violence for their actions. I think there's a lot of
- 37:28Speaker 9: people who are watching carefully to see, you know, if
- 37:32Speaker 9: if he allows those lesser angels to come out on
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- 37:44Speaker 9: like or want to de emphasize, especially gasoline sellers and
- 37:48Speaker 9: things like that, it's got to hang on, but I
- 37:50Speaker 9: want to talk about that, this borderline of where the
- 37:54Speaker 9: government gets the authority to say what is and what
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- 44:40Speaker 9: Know we have a lawyer on the phone, right, probably
- 44:44Speaker 9: a couple in the audience, Dick the butcher in the morning.
- 44:54Speaker 2: What is that Henry, Henry the sixth right.
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- 45:17Speaker 9: Scott Goodman is on with us from the Goodman Law Firm.
- 45:20Speaker 9: It is civil lawyer dot com. Scott talking about this
- 45:25Speaker 9: anti price gouging and it's.
- 45:26Speaker 2: Been around for a while.
- 45:28Speaker 9: Talk about the is the law in Virginia narrowly focused
- 45:32Speaker 9: so somebody couldn't turn around and say, hey, you really
- 45:36Speaker 9: should be doing this for free because we're in a crisis.
- 45:39Speaker 9: We watched some of this during COVID. People were, you know,
- 45:43Speaker 9: making free masks for one another, and people were complaining
- 45:47Speaker 9: about businesses that were charging for masks.
- 45:51Speaker 2: Is there a peril of going to the point.
- 45:53Speaker 9: Where if a nonprofit does something for free, then somebody
- 45:58Speaker 9: who charges for it could want up on the wrong
- 46:01Speaker 9: side of an anti gouging law simply for charging what
- 46:04Speaker 9: they always do in a crisis.
- 46:06Speaker 20: Well, there might be some politicians who might be trying
- 46:09Speaker 20: to punish businesses that try to charge for services that
- 46:14Speaker 20: other people are doing for free. But a business is
- 46:17Speaker 20: not obligated. You're not obligated. You're not required to offer
- 46:20Speaker 20: your service for free, even though it's sometimes there's a
- 46:23Speaker 20: nicing to do. And I'm sure that many of these
- 46:25Speaker 20: businesses that are criticized and accused of price gouging, they've
- 46:29Speaker 20: done things for people for free. That part doesn't get
- 46:32Speaker 20: publicized a lot of these whether it's tree removal, or
- 46:35Speaker 20: whether it's shoveling driveways or snowplows and so forth. There
- 46:39Speaker 20: are many, many people and it's not well publicized that
- 46:43Speaker 20: they do things for free for elderly people, for people
- 46:45Speaker 20: that are shut in. And there are a lot of
- 46:48Speaker 20: things that people do out of the goodness of their heart,
- 46:49Speaker 20: because they want to help other people and they have
- 46:52Speaker 20: the means to be able to do that. So we
- 46:54Speaker 20: don't really hear much about that. We always hear about
- 46:56Speaker 20: the one guy or the two people that supposedly are
- 46:59Speaker 20: accused of engaging in price gouging. No, no one is
- 47:04Speaker 20: required to offer their service that they have as part
- 47:07Speaker 20: of their business for free, but plenty of people, and
- 47:10Speaker 20: I think most people probably do it. Oh sure, Nobody
- 47:14Speaker 20: wants to beat their chest and come out and say, look,
- 47:15Speaker 20: how look what a wonderful person I am. Look what
- 47:18Speaker 20: I've done for free. That's not something that people really
- 47:21Speaker 20: do either, because that's strong attention to yourself or something
- 47:25Speaker 20: that you think people would want to do anyway to
- 47:27Speaker 20: help their fellow men. So there are a lot of
- 47:30Speaker 20: things that go on, probably a lot more free service
- 47:32Speaker 20: and a lot of favors done for people who are
- 47:34Speaker 20: in need than there is price gouging going on.
- 47:37Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
- 47:38Speaker 9: Scott Scott Goodman again one of my favorite legal experts
- 47:43Speaker 9: about it, because you'll take my premise And this text
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- 47:50Speaker 9: That's the problem I have with these laws is that
- 47:54Speaker 9: the premise is we can force you to do things
- 47:57Speaker 9: for free, and we're not there yet, but you know,
- 48:01Speaker 9: and it's kind of appreciated.
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- 48:27Speaker 9: a fabian usurper conservative kidder. No, I don't know how
- 48:36Speaker 9: you would create an acronym for that. But anyway, back
- 48:40Speaker 9: on point Terry, your text is right on the button.
- 48:44Speaker 9: The reason I asked that question is it seems like,
- 48:46Speaker 9: especially after COVID, after what our friend Horace Cooper referred
- 48:52Speaker 9: to as that norm busting moment, we see more and
- 48:56Speaker 9: more nonprofits just popping up. I mean, things that you
- 49:01Speaker 9: would traditionally have presumed were at very least in LLC
- 49:06Speaker 9: if not an incorporation, are now nonprofits. You have a
- 49:10Speaker 9: nonprofit food truck, you have to and yeah there are rules,
- 49:15Speaker 9: but you get four or five people in a neighborhood
- 49:17Speaker 9: to create a board that oversees the operation of your
- 49:21Speaker 9: nonprofit food truck. As the guy who runs Goodwill, how
- 49:29Speaker 9: profitable it is to run a quote nonprofit. A lot
- 49:35Speaker 9: of these folks, these chief executive officers of these nonprofits. Oh,
- 49:42Speaker 9: which was the Veterans Group that I got just roasted
- 49:45Speaker 9: for by veterans groups, oh H, Wounded Warrior Project, and
- 49:52Speaker 9: I got roasted because the CEO was making a pretty
- 49:55Speaker 9: hefty six figure salary, but they were also spending a
- 49:58Speaker 9: lot of their money on advertise, which I don't like anyway.
- 50:01Speaker 9: And I'm in an advertising business and I appreciate all
- 50:06Speaker 9: the support we get from advertisers. But if a nonprofit
- 50:10Speaker 9: comes to me, if Veterans' Affairs Group, I'm not talking
- 50:15Speaker 9: about government, I'm talking about these actual nonprofits that are
- 50:19Speaker 9: trying to help veterans in some way shape or from
- 50:22Speaker 9: build houses for them, adaptive houses and that kind of stuff,
- 50:26Speaker 9: and they say, hey, we've got, you know, ten thousand
- 50:28Speaker 9: dollars to average.
- 50:29Speaker 2: I build somebody's house with.
- 50:30Speaker 9: That ten thousand dollars. I'll go find it in a
- 50:33Speaker 9: commercial place. I just always feel like if I'm taking
- 50:40Speaker 9: money from a nonprofit to broadcast something, I feel like
- 50:44Speaker 9: that that nonprofit could be using that money for their services.
- 50:50Speaker 9: How and I apologies how I misread the text. I
- 50:54Speaker 9: thought it was coming from a guy Scott who listens
- 50:56Speaker 9: down in Hampton Roads to us on WNI. Yes, he's
- 51:00Speaker 9: listening to us on our flagship station all the way,
- 51:03Speaker 9: you know, And this is the this is what got
- 51:06Speaker 9: me in so much trouble. Legally is he's in Palmyra, Virginia,
- 51:11Speaker 9: which is miles and miles and miles afield from where
- 51:14Speaker 9: our transmitter is in Stanton, actually in croz A, So
- 51:20Speaker 9: he's listening off. That's the joy of putting an FM
- 51:23Speaker 9: transmitter on top of Mountain Hell. And I appreciate you listening.
- 51:26Speaker 9: He was the one that asked about the Democrats having
- 51:30Speaker 9: no issue with tax gouging. No, because we all voted
- 51:34Speaker 9: for them, or twenty six percent of us voted for them,
- 51:40Speaker 9: and even lower if you can drive the voter turnout
- 51:43Speaker 9: numbers down low enough sure ten percent of the population
- 51:46Speaker 9: to vote for someone. That's why democracy fails. Do we
- 51:49Speaker 9: have that Bill maher clip. I know it's long and
- 51:52Speaker 9: I'm not going to play the whole thing, but the
- 51:54Speaker 9: bit he does it, I think it was just from
- 51:57Speaker 9: Friday's Bill Mahershaw, but he just roasts the woke and
- 52:03Speaker 9: that's always fun when you do, because it's all about
- 52:06Speaker 9: we voted for it. It's democratic anything, democratic capitalism, democratic religion.
- 52:16Speaker 24: Yeah, I don't like that Leviticus stuff. Could we take
- 52:19Speaker 24: that out of the you know, I don't like all
- 52:22Speaker 24: this stuff about you know, honor thy God. Can we
- 52:25Speaker 24: take that out, and you've got democratic churches that are
- 52:29Speaker 24: voting every couple of weeks to take different parts out
- 52:32Speaker 24: or or just not read them in church.
- 52:35Speaker 9: Services Martin Luther Batman. Anyway, we'll get back into that
- 52:41Speaker 9: and you and me at four three four eight eight
- 52:43Speaker 9: two four two one seven on a frigid morning where
- 52:47Speaker 9: so much of the listening areas gripped by sub zero
- 52:49Speaker 9: temperatures this morning.
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