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I Am All In…Again: Did Dean Almost Kiss Rory? (Season 4 E14 “The Incredible Sinking Lorelais”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's I Am all in again with Scott Patterson and
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  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one
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  Speaker 1: of them productions iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast A Season four,
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  Speaker 1: episode fourteen, The Incredible Sinking Laurelize. We have very special guest,
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  Speaker 1: Patty Malcolm was Lauren stand In. She's also an actress, author,
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  Speaker 1: equestrian who had multiple roles in Gilmore Girls, which we
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  Speaker 1: just saw in this episode. Welcome to the show, Patty.
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  Speaker 1: We see you've been in six episodes, including the one
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  Speaker 1: we're about to recap as Laurelized hairdresser. Yeah, but you
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  Speaker 1: were also Lauren stand In for five seasons. What do
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  Speaker 1: you remember about that Gilmore time in your life?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there's so much.
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  Speaker 4: You know. One it was I just moved to Hollywood
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  Speaker 4: to pursue this dream of acting, but I didn't want.
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  Speaker 3: To be a waitress. So I was like, what else
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  Speaker 3: can I do.
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  Speaker 4: Where I'm in on a set, learning watching you know,
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  Speaker 4: the pros work and get more experience. And I got
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  Speaker 4: Gilmore Girls right away, like within a month of being
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  Speaker 4: in la and I interviewed for it and got the job.
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  Speaker 3: And I just got thrown into it.
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  Speaker 4: And what I love the most and remember the most
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  Speaker 4: about Gilmore Girls is that we became a family so quickly,
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  Speaker 4: Like behind the scenes we were tight. We did so
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  Speaker 4: much together. We would work eighteen hour days and we
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  Speaker 4: would still hang out after we wrapped, Like we would
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  Speaker 4: stay on the lot and we would hang out and
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  Speaker 4: play darts and sing karaoke, and we just wanted to
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  Speaker 4: be around each other, wed each other, and the dynamic
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  Speaker 4: I haven't found since. And I went on to stand
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  Speaker 4: in for several other actresses on several other shows, and
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  Speaker 4: I never had that same dynamic where I felt like
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  Speaker 4: these are my family and my friends and I want
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  Speaker 4: to hang out with them.
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  Speaker 1: All the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was very special. It was a very
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  Speaker 4: special time.
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  Speaker 1: So what was it like watching this episode again?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: One I was telling your producer before we started is
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  Speaker 4: that I didn't realize the girls were going through so much.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly thought it was about Lauren had
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  Speaker 4: bad hair, you know, like she just couldn't get the
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  Speaker 4: hair done in town. And the reason being is because
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  Speaker 4: I never watched any of the episodes because we were there,
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  Speaker 4: we were in it, and watching one, I would always
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  Speaker 4: I can't, I can't really just enjoy it when we
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  Speaker 4: were actually working on the show, because I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that that happened. Oh that's the day I took a
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  Speaker 4: nap on the stairs at the Gilmour mansion. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you think about everything that was going on in your mind,
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  Speaker 4: and so watching it, I was like, oh, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: realize all this was happening for the girls. It was
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  Speaker 4: a really intense episode. And you know, remembering that mississ
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  Speaker 4: C from Happy Days, you know, it was there the
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  Speaker 4: grandmother and remembering I remember there was someone in the background.
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  Speaker 4: We were setting up this shot and someone was making
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  Speaker 4: a weird noise and she looked at me and she
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  Speaker 4: goes stop making that noise. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: missus C just yelled at me and I wasn't making
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  Speaker 4: a noise, but I was like, I can't talk disrespectful
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  Speaker 4: the mississ C.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's just fun.
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  Speaker 4: It was fun to watch the episode and have all
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  Speaker 4: those memories come back. And now I'm actually intrigued to
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  Speaker 4: watch the show, and now I can watch it as
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  Speaker 4: a fan and oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: This is really great.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, air date on this one February seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Synopsis A Laura life feels the
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  Speaker 1: Laura lies. Let's say, I feel like they're failing when
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  Speaker 1: Rory needs to drop a class at Yale because of
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  Speaker 1: her schedule is a little heavy and she's falling behind,
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  Speaker 1: and Laurala I is running out of money for the
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  Speaker 1: in remodel. Meanwhile, Laane moves out of Rory's dormom Director
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  Speaker 1: Steve Clancy, writer Amy Sherman to Palladino, Dan Palladino, Dragonfly
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  Speaker 1: in Laura le Laura la Michelle Suker at the Dragonfly
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  Speaker 1: and Lauralai calls Rory and leaves her a voicemail. Then
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  Speaker 1: they get a call for their first reservation. Things are
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  Speaker 1: looking up now, Laura Lei then over at Jason's and
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  Speaker 1: they're both on the phone over work calls, not able
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  Speaker 1: to connect really on a personal level. Then Emily calls
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  Speaker 1: and lets her know Tricks missus c as you refer
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  Speaker 1: to her Tricks is coming into town and they need
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  Speaker 1: her to go to a luncheon and get a haircut.
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  Speaker 1: Laurel and Seeker back at the end, Tom lets them
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  Speaker 1: know the bills aren't getting paid, so Laurel I kept
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  Speaker 1: that from Suki. Suki was't not aware of that, and
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  Speaker 1: she suggests Suki does ask Lorelei to ask Luke for
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  Speaker 1: the money because he's old, reliable. Laurele's getting her hair
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  Speaker 1: done by you, Patty as Leanne, and she gets to
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  Speaker 1: call and Suki isn't at the Dragonfly and to sign
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  Speaker 1: for delivery of the sink that is coming in from Canada.
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  Speaker 1: Michelle is busy at his new job, oggling Selene Dion,
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  Speaker 1: who is five feet away from him in the lobby,
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  Speaker 1: and she leaves her hair appointment while her hair is wet.
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  Speaker 1: Horror of horrors, Patty, you were in this storyline as
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  Speaker 1: Lorelei's hairdresser. What do you remember about filming that day.
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  Speaker 3: I remember we had a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 4: Behind the scenes. Steve Clancy was excited to be directing.
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  Speaker 4: Lauren was excited that I was doing her hair. She
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  Speaker 4: didn't want anyone touching her head and so she was
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  Speaker 4: comfortable with me, so she was happy about that. We
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  Speaker 4: joked a lot behind the scenes. Chris Long stopped by.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I got this role because previously, in the
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  Speaker 4: same season, episode four, I played woman and it was
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  Speaker 4: with you in the diner.
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  Speaker 1: It was right.
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  Speaker 4: Before the Bachelor party that came in late at night
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  Speaker 4: to Luke's diner and I was walking out and.
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  Speaker 3: I was basically a swipe. You barely even saw my face.
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  Speaker 3: I think I said good night or thank you, and
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  Speaker 3: you were like night, And then Dean and his crew
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  Speaker 3: came in. Well, Chris Long said to me after it aired,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, what'd you think? What'd you think?
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, Chris, would be nice
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  Speaker 4: if my mom could actually see my face in an.
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  Speaker 3: Episode see it.
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  Speaker 4: So Chris Long gave got me this part as Leanne,
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  Speaker 4: and he dropped the script in my lap one day
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  Speaker 4: and he said, hey, too, shot, going to see your face.
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  Speaker 3: Your mom's going to be happy, and you got a name.
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  Speaker 4: So I was really excited and grateful to Chris to
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  Speaker 4: give me that, and my mom was really happy.
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  Speaker 1: That's nice. That's so nice my mom to this day. Thanks.
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  Speaker 3: The show is called Glamour Girls.
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  Speaker 1: Ah all right. Every time Tricks is in the mix,
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  Speaker 1: we see the generational trauma with this family, especially when
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  Speaker 1: she's being extra critical about finances to the whole table
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  Speaker 1: at dinner. How would you I mean, she was aiming
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  Speaker 1: at Richard too, how would you take this criticism in
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  Speaker 1: your own family, Patty and.
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  Speaker 3: My own family, I'd be upset.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be very like, what do you what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: If I was Lauren and Lauren shoes first, I'm the embarrassed.
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  Speaker 4: If it was my father and he was being criticized,
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  Speaker 4: I'd be embarrassed for him. And you don't want help.
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  Speaker 4: You want to make it on your own, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And she has to look at the fact that she
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  Speaker 4: could be failing and that's hard, and she got to
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  Speaker 4: go try try the lukester for some cash. That was
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  Speaker 4: a great scene where you're like, oh, thirty thousand, I'm like, ooh,
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  Speaker 4: that's a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of money. Still is you know,
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  Speaker 1: thirty grand Yeah? I thought. I thought Jason Styles was
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  Speaker 1: particularly funny in these scenes with tricks and gives her
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  Speaker 1: a present and she grills him about why would you
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  Speaker 1: give an old lady who you do not know a
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  Speaker 1: gift when it's not her birthday, there's no anniversary, there's
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  Speaker 1: no occasion for why, and he just he shrinks up,
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  Speaker 1: he shrivels up, and it's French, some French antiques. She goes, well,
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  Speaker 1: how did you know that? I like just looking at
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  Speaker 1: each other. I thought that scene was hilarious. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: really great.
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  Speaker 4: She keeps sheeps, calling back to the French antiques too
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  Speaker 4: during the lunch.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty funny.
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  Speaker 1: She's the only woman that's that's you know, maybe funnier
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  Speaker 1: and even more obnoxious than than Emily. It's hard to do, uh,
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  Speaker 1: all right, So Laurel I goes to look she's she's
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  Speaker 1: she's out of money. You know. Tricks takes everybody apart
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  Speaker 1: at the dinner table, Laura I because she can tell,
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  Speaker 1: because she's a wise and soul. She can tell by
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  Speaker 1: the look in Laurel's eyes and talking about how her
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  Speaker 1: diner build is going, that she's in big financial trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Tricks can just see it. She she calls her out
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  Speaker 1: on it. And then she calls out Richard when he
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  Speaker 1: made a bad business decision twenty seven years old, the
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  Speaker 1: Tricks had to bail him out of. And I do
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  Speaker 1: not recall this scene, Richard standing up for himself like
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  Speaker 1: this and telling his mother to stop treating him like
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  Speaker 1: he was some kind of incompetent child. That he's gone
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  Speaker 1: on to build two very successful companies without her help.
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  Speaker 1: And she decides to leave the table. So Richard showing
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  Speaker 1: a bit of backbone here when I forgot about this scene.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So Laura I goes to Luke, all right,
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  Speaker 1: She's going to take him out to dinner and then
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  Speaker 1: drop the big one on him. Need the money, and
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  Speaker 1: she just sort of meets him at the truck and
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  Speaker 1: sit down on the you know, on the bench out
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  Speaker 1: in front of Luke's and breaks down. He comforts her.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tender scene. You like the build up that
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing establish a deeper connection with these two. Patty,
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  Speaker 1: It's a very nice scene, it really is.
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  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful scene.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's this tension between you two that I
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  Speaker 4: absolutely love, and at that point you were both in
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  Speaker 4: a different relationship, so it was really interesting to see it.
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  Speaker 4: I remember shooting that scene. I remember being out there
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  Speaker 4: and watching it happen real time, and it was really
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  Speaker 4: beautiful at the time.
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  Speaker 3: You guys really killed it. It's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 3: scenes in the episode.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's nice to have a great scene partner. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's always always had a g great scene partner, and
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  Speaker 1: Lauren and everybody in this cast, so you know, the
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  Speaker 1: way you miss the way you miss it is the
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  Speaker 1: way I miss it too, because I've been on other
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  Speaker 1: shows and it's not like that. Yeah, all right, So
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  Speaker 1: Rory at Yale, Okay, Laine is still living there, Paris
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  Speaker 1: is starting to chafe about it, Paris is complaining about everything.
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  Speaker 1: Janet's boyfriend Clee Bold, and I thought, I thought Janet
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  Speaker 1: did it. I love Janet just so do I. She
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  Speaker 1: she did a great job just pushing back on on
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  Speaker 1: what's her name? Paris? Yeah, Paris. And they argue, they argue,
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  Speaker 1: and she almost spills about Asher Fleming. She just is
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  Speaker 1: busting at the seams to confess to this, to be
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  Speaker 1: proud of it, to fly that flag, but she knows
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  Speaker 1: she can't. All right, So love those scenes, love it,
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  Speaker 1: it really did. And in this Clee Bold, fella, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how we held back with all those insults,
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  Speaker 1: but you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't remember him, no offense to him. But there I
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  Speaker 3: stood in.
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  Speaker 4: For Janet on that day, and so no, I was
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  Speaker 4: there for all of it. They just used me for everyone.
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  Speaker 4: I was there every single day, and if Lauren wasn't working,
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  Speaker 4: They're like, where else can we stick her?
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I would even remember that scene with him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's a good. That's a good question. How
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  Speaker 1: often did Lauren not work because it wasn't very many times,
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  Speaker 1: was it? It was very very rare.
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  Speaker 4: I was there every day start to finish, like no,
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  Speaker 4: it was pretty crazy. And the only episode that I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't there every single day was when they you jump
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  Speaker 4: I jumped Jack off the scaffolds right.
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  Speaker 1: When they were doing the light Brigade guys. That.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I worked like one day that episode.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: I never have time off, but.
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  Speaker 4: It was It's nice to get a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a break. But of course I visited set because I'm
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  Speaker 4: that person, and I'm like, I want to hang out
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  Speaker 4: with my friends. Everyone became my friends. I had no
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  Speaker 4: time for family, I had no time for our friends.
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  Speaker 3: Outside of the show. So if I had a few
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  Speaker 3: days off, I was like, I got to stop.
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  Speaker 1: By, you know, like, what's happening?
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  Speaker 3: I want to sing some karaoke.
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  Speaker 1: Right right right, my pals? All right. Rory calls home,
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  Speaker 1: leaves Laura I a message about her new job. Dean
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  Speaker 1: then calls her to make sure working at the Dragonfly
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  Speaker 1: because he's been hired by Tom is okay with Rory.
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  Speaker 1: They give each other some life updates. Rory meets up
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  Speaker 1: with her professor and he tells her she's overloading herself
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  Speaker 1: with classes and that she's struggling should drop his course
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  Speaker 1: otherwise if she does in, her paper is a D
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  Speaker 1: paper and that's just not Rory. Roy doesn't get d's,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't get czed. She rarely gets a B. Rory
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  Speaker 1: tries to call Laura l Ime. They keep missing each other.
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  Speaker 1: Rory's getting upset. She rushes home because she's freaking it
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  Speaker 1: out of out school. I can't find lauralize. So she
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  Speaker 1: talks to Dean at the end, who's working at the end,
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  Speaker 1: so they sort of run into each other unexpectedly, and
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  Speaker 1: she has what I consider to be her maybe her
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  Speaker 1: finest moment on the show. I just the work is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's turning out to be one of the
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  Speaker 1: top talents on this show. Her work is just so effortless,
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  Speaker 1: and it's so you just really can never see her acting,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I just she just and she falls
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  Speaker 1: apart so beautifully here and I really really, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's about not so much about what she's feeling, but
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  Speaker 1: what about I'm feeling as an audience. And I felt
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  Speaker 1: so much for her. Felt so bad for her. She's
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  Speaker 1: just so adorably vulnerable and broken here, and Dean consoles her.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's what you hope for both, And both
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  Speaker 1: Lauren and Alexis could deliver these you know those you know,
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  Speaker 1: high difficulty dives if you will, you know, wonderful to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I just I just thought it was such a tender,
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  Speaker 1: great scene. I mean, how can you not love her, right,
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  Speaker 1: she was the greatest.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I thought that too.
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  Speaker 4: Watching it back, I was like, wow, she just really
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  Speaker 4: is so natural.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean this is the first real job.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, that's the word, is natural. Yeah, right, there's nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You can't really see any training because there's really no
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  Speaker 1: training there. She's getting on the job training watching all
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  Speaker 1: of us, and she just nails everything. It's just so
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  Speaker 1: It's uncanny, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. And that was a beautiful scene.
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  Speaker 3: I thought there was a moment there was so weird tension.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that Dean might reach over for a little kiss.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like they might be.
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  Speaker 1: I did too. I did too, And I could read
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  Speaker 1: his thought. I could read the thought right because it
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  Speaker 1: was louding to me too. He was about to and
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe he was directed there as well, But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not feel it, right, right?
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  Speaker 1: I love Dean.
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  Speaker 4: Dean was one of my favorites for the Friends. I
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  Speaker 4: guess I'm team Dean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they did him kind of dirty. Yeah they
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  Speaker 1: really did. But he you know, before they did him
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  Speaker 1: dirty and after he after, he comes out looking pretty
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  Speaker 1: darn good, I think. Yeah. And he really established himself
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  Speaker 1: as like the first guy, the first boyfriend, and the
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  Speaker 1: cool you know, the cool, tough, smart guy you know
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  Speaker 1: that everybody swoons over and Bud he really just had
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  Speaker 1: eyes for her man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and as a human being, like, he was one
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  Speaker 4: of my favorite people. Like my first day on set,
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  Speaker 4: he was so welcoming. I had to be an eyeline
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  Speaker 4: for him off camera, and he was.
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  Speaker 3: Just so sweet. He had a he has an old soul.
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  Speaker 4: He was much older beyond his eaters at that time,
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  Speaker 4: and he could have a conversation with anybody.
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  Speaker 3: He just was I really really liked him a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Good guy with him, good guy indeed. All right, Laane
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  Speaker 1: is in a bit of a situation now, right, She's
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  Speaker 1: she's she's like a ping pong ball bouncing around. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's living it. Yale with Rory. She's caring for everyone
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  Speaker 1: like a dorm room mother.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then after Paris's argument with Janet, which is considerable
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  Speaker 1: and deep, Laine tries to consult, uh console Paris and
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  Speaker 1: mentioned she knows about Asher. Whoops, Well, if you didn't
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  Speaker 1: think that Paris's head could explode any more than it
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  Speaker 1: already is, here's one more layer, right, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: the ferrari of rage that Paris is shift into even
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  Speaker 1: a higher gear to go faster and have more rage.
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  Speaker 1: Runs to Rory, who's working some I don't know, she's
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  Speaker 1: checking people in at the library, and she goes ballistic
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  Speaker 1: on on on on poor who just is like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's the big deal. I told one person she's my friend.
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  Speaker 1: She's not gonna blab it, you know, Relax.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I found Paris just tiresome in this this episode. It
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: was like, God, you know, there's got to be another
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: color you can paint here. Just tiresome. Yeah. But you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: she does make the point that Lane's gotta go. This
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: is causing too much stress on everybody, but Rory doesn't
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: think so, because Janet and her other roommate what is
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: her name? Escapes, you know, I just don't seem to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be according to Rory, Tana, right, Tana, thank you Jackie good,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: save good, Save for the ball club there, uh Tana.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Ry doesn't think that Tana and Janet are
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: bothered by Lane's presence. So she goes to them and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: they kind of say, you know, they intimate that. It's like, yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: it's a little much, it's a little crowded, it's a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: little you know, we kind of have to talk about it. Yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: she should probably go you know, she doesn't go here'
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that's but she doesn't go here. And that's the point, right, Yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: they're paying all this their parents are paying all this
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: money intuition. So that Rory can you know, let friend
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and crash on her floor. It's like no, and all right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: So then Rory has to talk with Lane about the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Paris argument, and then Lane immediately picks up. As close
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: friends do they pick up on what the real story is,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and that is you're out. Yeah, so she understands, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I think that scene showed how close they are as
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: friends and that nobody's getting resentful or bitter over it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: She just knows, and she doesn't want to. She doesn't
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: want to put Rory in a bad spot with her roommates.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: So she's been a good friend and there's no hard feelings,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: which is which is really nice to see. All right,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So now Laane is back in Star's Hollow and she's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: going to stay at Laurel's. Laureli doesn't know this yet
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: because she hasn't checked her message, just because she's busy
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: running around like a chicken with her head cut off
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: trying to find money. So she also asked Luke for
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: her job back and he says yes. And then afterwards
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Lane runs into her mother on the street and she says,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I'm staying at Laurele's and all missus Kim says, is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: where sucks. Yeah.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I was one that I was like, why sock, what
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: is that?
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: What is that?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Why? You know? I'm at the point now with these
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: two where they just need to like get over it
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: right right, Well, you resolve this stuff, you know, that's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: your daughter, for God's sake, you know, just just sitter down,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: resolve it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Anyway, this is what I'm hoping for. I'm hoping that
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: comes because if I'm if I'm being manipulated by the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: masters that run this show to this extent, and I
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: know I'm going to get a payoff pretty soon, hopefully,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: right right, all right, wear socks, big line, big line.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: And that is missus Kim's version of saying, what I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: still care? Yeah, But do you think, Patty, do you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: think Lane sees it that way?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's so used.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: This is her mom, this is how she's always been,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you know, that's the way she's got, you know, that
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: cultural thing where she's very tough, you know, and and
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Lane wants softness from her mama. But I think just
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: where socks, she's like, Okay, that's what mom can give me,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: you know, that's what she can give.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: And you know, you.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: See that moment, a little bit of sadness in Lane's face,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: like she misses her mom, and yeah, that's what she's
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: always going to get, those kind of statements from her mother.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: She just does.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Miss Kim doesn't know how to let down that cultural
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: thing the way she was raised.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You know, well, I kind of feel for missus Kim.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: She's got the responsibility of being the mother and the father.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: There's no father around, so she's got to be extra tough.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: You know, she has to be both figures in one person.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And that's an impossible ask, and it is thankless because
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: she she knows that she has to do these things.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: She she knows, she sees. Her eyes are wide open
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: about you know, being in the United States, and and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and the distractions that are available, and the and the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: culture is different, and and you know, you know, kids
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: get swept up by their peer groups once they hit
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: puberty and beyond, and then their friends become more influential
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: than their than their parents ever could be in those years.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: So it's it's it's fraught with danger. And she understands this.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So she's got to be both a mom and a dad,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and a really tough dad, a stern dad. So it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a it's a dual role. She should have been paid
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: for her playing both characters, right, the mother and under them.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: There's an argument, right, she would agree with that.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: She would there's a little bit of an argument there.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: She she might have had the toughest role in the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: whole show. Yeah, you know, keeping that stiff upper lip
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and these very very very tough, tender scenes. Anyway, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: it's interesting that laurel I and Rory's lives are sort
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: of falling apart a little bit here, and that the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: people they end up with or going to who console them.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Dean on Rory's behalf and Luke on on laurel Eyed behalf.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Do you see any similarities between Dean and Luke.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the small town guy.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: You know, they're the reliable It's like a it's like
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: a wood bey, you know, like a baby blanket. You know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: there's reliability there and there's a closeness that you can't
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: They're both going after different things and it's hard, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: they always come back to their comfort person. And I
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: think Luke is that for laurel I, and Dean was
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: that for Rory.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: So if those two, if Dean and Luke were so similar,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: then why is Luke so good for Lorelai and Dean
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: according to the fan base, isn't the one for Rory.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe because they want to see Rory.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's going.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: To this big college, she's they want to see her
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: evolve past this small town thing. You know, her mom's
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: got the inn. Laurel lies got the inn. I think
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the fans like her with Logan, liked her with Milo.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I go between their cast names and their real name,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I think they just want to see her evolve,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: you know, a little beyond stars hollow.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Like Loreal's more of a town y now. She ain't
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: going anything, She's.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Not going anywhere's this is her club, this is the people,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: yeah right, And Alexis is spreading her wings and getting
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: worlds and.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Dean would hold her back there, you know. So I can't.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna say it because people get super excited.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I just I feel like there's another there's another story
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: that needs to be told, you know, it needs to continue,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Let me bounce this off you, okay, because I you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I I sort of game theoried this out, you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and not that I am trying to rub salt in
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the wounds that Rory can't handle her game theory class
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: at Yale. But if she married Dean, if she married Jess,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and she married Logan, let's play that out, okay, Like
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the baby is Dean, Jess or Logan. Let's do all
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: three scenarios, okay. The one scenario that I okay, So,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the one scenario that I keep coming back to in
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: terms of this quality of the storytelling is Logan. And
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it's because it's because let's consider ten years into that
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: marriage and a second kid. Okay, m hm, so what
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: are they They're in their early thirties and there's two kids.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: You do that for Jesse, you do that for Dean, Right,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you do that scenario for all three. Who's most likely
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to cheat? Of those three? And I think it's all
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: of them, But I think if it, I think you
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: have to give the odds. You know that they all will,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: maybe one to a lesser degree over the other. But
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: if that happens, you think in divorce settlement, and in
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a divorce settlement, you're going to do really well with Logan. Yeah,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and I'm actually being serious now going to You're going
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to do very very well. So that's going to be
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: good for her. It's going to be good for the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: children ultimately, and it also helps her to sort of
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't see Rory as a vindictive person,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: but it does sort of, you know, maybe there's a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: little satisfaction, you know, getting a little even, you know
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: with Mitcham who wounded her her ego so much with
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: his assessment of her skills as a journalist and her
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: metal as a human being and being not tough enough
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to be in that business at a high level. So
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: she gets that type of revenge and then not that
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: she's seeking revenge, but it all seems to work out
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: in a Logan marriage scenario with a second kid, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: then you've got the storytelling that you were talking about.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: How do you continue this storytelling? It's sort of a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Huntsburger progeny, reliving maybe what is in their DNA
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and rebelling against all of it, right, rebelling against the
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Huntsburger side, embracing the Gilmore side, advice versa. But there's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that polarity right, right, So I just think that that
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: that's the best case scenario for the continued storytelling. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there because I'd like to adopt it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I'd like the powers that be to adopt this, yeah,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: because I think and I'm open to for the fans
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to speculate on what a Rory Jess marriage ten years
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: in and second China and a Rory Dean marriage would be,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like what what could be you know, above and beyond
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: a divorce settlement but whatever, it doesn't really have to be.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: But what's the storytelling, what's the lore of Gilmore girls?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: How does it continue on with a Dean marriage? To
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Ry versus a Jess marriage story, because we know, we
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: know about the Huntsburger side of things or how I
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: feel about it, But I think that's something to ponder.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I like the idea that it is Logan.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: They do get married, he does cheat, there is a divorce,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: and she ends up back in her roots.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Back in stars Hollow.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: She comes home, she got a nice settlement, she can
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: start any business she wants, and Stars Hollow, and I
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: see Jess coming back into the picture. Dean's got lots
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: of kids with his wife, and you know, I see
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: her and Jess back together, you know. And then then
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Logan's kind of like a Chris, you know, in a way.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: He's kind of and then she wants kind of more
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of her back to her.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Small town roots. I see him back full circle back home.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Well he's got a new daughter, daughter.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Another you know Gilmore girl coming on up.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And then there has to be a daughter. Yeah, maybe
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: maybe two, but yeah, all right, hi gang, you heard
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: it here. First, the speculation continues on what the new
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: storytelling could be. We would love to hear your feedback
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: on it, so everybody, uh, you know, let us know
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: on the socials and keep the cards and letters coming. Patty,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. We're out of time,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: but always welcome back and good luck with continued success
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: in your life and career. And remember where y'all lead,
• 32:28
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• 33:00
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• 33:05
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