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Jane Doe 4’s Family Says She Fears the Trump Administration (7/1/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. One of the most salacious bits of information
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we have received in the Epstein Files comes from Jane
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do number four, who claims that she was abused by
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Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump. Now, of course, Donald Trump
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he denies any kind of association with Jeffrey Epstein whatsoever,
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whether it was friendly or otherwise, and the White House
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has come out forcefully and said this is a bunch
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of bs. However, according to Jane Doe four's family and friends,
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she's been forced to live off the grid now as
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she's in fear for her life and her safety. And look,
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people can roll their eyes at that, and people can say,
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you know what, that's overblown. It's not like the US
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government's going to do anything to you. But unfortunately that's
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not the experience for a lot of people, including these girls.
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And when you're talking about the most powerful man in
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the world, who has the DOJ is back in call,
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I'd be pretty scared too if I was coming out
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making those kinds of allegations. Now, with that said, are
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the allegations true. I have no idea, but I think
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it's worth an investigation, and I think it's worth somebody
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taking a look, and that somebody, in my opinion, should
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be a special counsel. I don't think there's any time
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or any room for anything else. It's either we want
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to get to the bottom of this and hold people accountable,
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or we don't. Because the time for talk is over.
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Now it's time for a real investigation, for indictments and
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hopefully convictions. Today we have an article from the Guardian
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and the headline alleged Epstein victim and Trump accuser living
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in fear of retaliation. Relative says this article was authored
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by Marilyn W. Thompson and this is the woman from
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South Carolina, and if you're a call Previously, we went
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through several articles from a newspaper in South Carolina that
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recounted the story and tried to piece the pieces together,
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and according to their investigation, it's inconclusive. A woman known
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as Jane do four in the Jeffrey Epstein files is
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staying off the grid and lives in fear of retaliation
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from the Trump administration amid an escalating controversy over its
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handling of her case. According to a family member, trauma
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is brutal, chronic trauma destroys, said the relative, who described
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the woman's life as layers of abuse dating back to
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early childhood. She's coping as best she can. You know,
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I hope she gets some help one way or the other.
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But remember, accusations like this, if they're false, they're very harmful.
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And anybody who makes accusations that are untrue should also
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face consequences because remember, it takes away from the overall
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abuse and the people that were actually abused. Will they
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get pigeonholed and they get grouped together with peace who
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were lying, And of course that's all part of the
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plan to confuse and to office gate. But I think
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it's important that if people are telling lies and they're
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spreading falsehoods, that that gets called out too. Look, my
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goal has always been the same, to get as close
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to the truth as we can. Does that mean we're
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going to get there? Of course not. I wish I
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had some kind of magic wand where I can wave
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it and we just had all the answers, But that's
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not reality, right, We got to keep grinding. Unfortunately, the
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woman who had four interviews with FBI agents in twenty
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nineteen that kept resurfacing in the Epstein sex trafficking scandal,
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she made unproven allegations she was abused by the New
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York financier in the eighties, then sexually assaulted by Donald
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Trump when she was between thirteen and fifteen years old.
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The White House has called her allegations completely baseless and
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backed by zero credible evidence, a claim it said was
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supported by the fact that the Biden administration Justice Department
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knew about the allegations but did nothing with them. Well,
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I don't think that's good enough proof. The Justice Department,
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whether it's Biden, whether it's Trump, whether it's Trump the
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first time, whether it's Obama, didn't give a fly and fuck.
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So let's not use the Justice Department and their interest
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as some kind of barometer. The reason the Justice Department
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didn't want anything to do with it Trump or otherwise
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is because they'd blow the whole thing open and they
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couldn't have that. This shit was like mutually assured destruction, right,
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like a nuclear deterrent. And the only reason it came
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to light is because you guys forced it. That's it.
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And now you see this clean up operation that they're
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engaging in trying to make everybody move on and trying
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to sterilize the damning information that's coming out. She's one
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of the only alleged Epstein victims to have directly accused Trump,
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and irregularities in the Justice Department's handling of her case
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have now become a rallying point for critics Acting Attorney
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General Todd Blanche, who is the US president nominee for
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a permanent appointment that should never happen. Anybody who gives
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this guy the nod and approves him taking over as
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attorney general is questionable, Like, why would you think Todd
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Blanche is the right guy? With all the controversy, all
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the bullshit, and the fact that he's managing an ongoing
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cover up. Do we really want to have him as
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the attorney general? A federal judge in Washington last week
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gave Blanche until July second to produce unredacted versions of
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files the Justice Department has already released, or provide an
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explanation for why it cannot produce the unredacted records. The
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Department of Justice DJ was also ordered to release interview
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notes related to Jane doe Ford's allegations. The decision was
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part of a civil case against Blanche. Brought by journalist
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Katie Fang. And it's crazy that Katie Fang has to
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do this. Where's the New York Times or the Washington
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Post or Fox News. Late Friday, the Justice Department's number
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three official, Stanley Woodward, gave notice he will join the case.
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They really really don't want these documents released, tweeted Brendan Belou,
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a lawyer for the Public Integrity Project who's representing Fang. No,
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they do not. If they wanted them released, they would
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release them. And this is what I mean by a
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cover up. It's not always blunt, it's not always directly
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in your face, but it's happening behind the scenes, and
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you can tell it's happening because of the shockwaves that
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come after it. These decisions that are being made, Yo,
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somebody's making them right. The system itself isn't making the decision,
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So who signed off on it? Let's see the paperwork.
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If it's this big systemic issue and everything's falling apart,
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can we see the paper trail, please? Alleged Epstein. Victims
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and supporters want Blanche, the president's former personal attorney, to
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explain why about two point five million other records of
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unknown importance were deemed duplicative or legally protected by Blanche
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and never released. No explanation. Just trust us bro the
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president's personal attorney. Now, I know people on the right
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are going to try and make excuses for it, but
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stop it. You guys would be apoplectic if this was
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happening under Biden, If this was Merrick Garland doing this,
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forget it, and you'd be right. You would be right.
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But now that it's your guy, I'm hearing all these
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excuses about why Blanche is qualified. This dude is not qualified.
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He doesn't need to be the Attorney General, acting or otherwise.
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It should not be Jane Doe for his responsibility to
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keep coming forward. Sky Roberts, the brother of deceased Epstein
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victim survivor you mean Virginia Roberts, who became a leader
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victim's advocate told The Guardian, Yo, they're lucky Virginia's not alive.
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I'm telling you right now, she'd be going bananas the
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way that they're trying to twist this, the nonsense they're
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up to. Forget it. She's already given her testimony to
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the FBI. It should be Justice's responsibility to take the
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evidence and press forward. He said, that's how it usually works,
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right cases presented, Justice takes it over and they start investigating.
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But you can't tell me that there was an investigation
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because they never talked to anybody. So how are you
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having an investigation if you're not talking to possible co conspirators?
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What exactly are you investigating? Judge m Att Sullivan's order
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to comply with the Epstein Transparency Act was a real
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win for victims. Former prosecutor and legal commentator Joyce Vance
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wrote on Substack and I think that's true. I think
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it is a victory. Now, I wouldn't be popping the
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champagne bottles just yet. We don't know if the Justice
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Department is going to comply or find a way to
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wiggle out, And considering who's running the show, my guess
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is they're trying to wiggle The handling of Jane doe
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For's case file has been controversial since the Justice Department
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rushed to comply with a law passed by Congress in
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November and signed into law by Trump requiring release of
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all documents related to Epstein and his associate, Glenn Maxwell.
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Epstein died in jail in an apparent suicide at least
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they say apparent here in August of twenty nineteen, and
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Maxwell is serving twenty years at a minimum security prison
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in Texas, where she was transferred after two interviews with Blanche. Yeah,
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you know, that's normal. Why you complain in everything's cope aesthetic.
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There's no misconduct here. We just transfer people like land
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Maxwell to lower security facilities all the time. That's the
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kind of shit they tried to tell us. It's obviously
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not true. And then of course they said it was
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security issues. Yeah, okay, because people are getting stabbed by
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the dozen down in Tallahassee. Blanche was in charge of compliance.
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According to answers, the fired Attorney General Pam Bondi gave
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to the House Oversight Committee. He directed a hastily assembled
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team of five hundred reviewers and led decisions about document handling. Yeah,
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Bondi wanted nothing to do with it right through this
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due directly under the bus Yo, that's a Todd Blanche operation.
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Nothing to do with me. I was busy. I got
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other shit to do. In several ways, the Justice Department
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uploaded more than three million documents into a database that
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was fraught with issues. Victims' names were exposed, as well
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as compromising photographs and the DOJ promise to correct mistakes.
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Retracted without explanation were potential co conspirators and names of
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friends who wrote to Epstein about young women. None of
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it should have been redacted. The law states that the
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only redaction should be for the privacy of victims. That's it,
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nobody else. But here we are with a whole entire document,
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or multiple documents, millions with tons of redactions. A massive
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document release in January included the formal FBI three zero
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two report of one Jane do four interview, along with
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numerical identifier for her case. She had called into the
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FBI's Epstein hotline after his arrest in July of twenty nineteen,
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and the agency deemed her account worthy of further investigation.
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Around the same time, the woman's confidant called into the
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hot line separately to report that she knew about Jane
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do four. Journalists at MPR and elsewhere used the woman's
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case file number to discover other missing records. Under pressure,
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The Department of Justice in March released three additional interviews
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with Jane do four, which included her fuzzy memory of
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an alleged nineteen eighty a xis counter with Trump, after
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she said Epstein introduced her in New York or New Jersey.
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The Justice Department still has not released handwritten interview notes
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from the sessions with Jane do four, And why not
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if it's all bs and it's all fugazi, release it.
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Let the people decide. I thought we were the most
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transparent administration in history. Well, I guess fucking not. Huh.
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Only reporters from the Post and Courier in Charleston, South
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Carolina have reviewed the notes, citing an unnamed source. The
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agent scribble includes names of a few high school friends
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who might be able to verify some aspects of Jane
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do Four's account, but not the alleged incident with Trump.
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The news outlet reported, and there it is. It's an allegation,
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and that's it. Now Does that mean it's not important? Hell? No,
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it is. It needs to be investigated fully, and we
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need to find out what happened. And I think the
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best way to do that now stick with me, is
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a special counsel. The transparency law gives few reasons for
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withholding documents and forbids keeping them from being withheld. On
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the basis of embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity. The
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FBI never brought charges against any individual in connection to
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Jane doe Ford's allegations, and there's no indication the FBI
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investigated Jane doe For's claims. After concluding its interviews in
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August of twenty nineteen, when Trump was serving his first
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term as president, the woman could off her FBI contact,
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telling agents she believed she was being followed. According to
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the FBI report of the final interview, her relative declined
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to disclose her current whereabouts. Look, that is all plausible.
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Was she being followed? Maybe they do that kind of shit.
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They love to intimidate people, and they love to try
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and get people to shut up. And when I say they,
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let me be clear, I mean powerful people, not to
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they as you know, some unseen cabal, I mean powerful
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people in general. Look at what Harvey Weinstein did. Look
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at what Jeffrey Epstein did to Brad Edwards. To the
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investigators down in Florida who are looking into him. Epstein
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was so brazen he had private investigators going through the
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trash of the police officers that were investigating him. The
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attorney who represented her during two FBI interviews, said he
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never received follow up calls from the two female agents
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or copies of their three or two reports, which he
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said are usually provided to defense counsel. The Guardian is
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not naming the attorney, who practices in a small family firm,
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or his location to protect the alleged victim's identity. Okay,
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I can get down with that. That's fine. If it
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goes to court, it's going to be different, right, We're
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going to know everything. The attorney said his mission was
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protecting his client against possible criminal charges. As she answered
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FBI questions about referring friends to a man she knew
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only as Jeff, who she said was visiting a luxury
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property near her family's home in Hilton At, South Carolina,
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the woman told agents she told a few friends on
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the beach about an older man who could supply drugs
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and liquor. That tracks what we think. Epstein's above that shit.
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In twenty twenty, At, Jane Doe joined a lawsuit against
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Epstein's estate with allegations and biographical details that matched those
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in the FBI interviews. She later dropped her claims. In March,
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oversight committee members questioned Epstein's accountant and lawyer who were
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co administrators of Epstein's estate, about any payment to the
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alleged victim directly from the estate. The woman's claim with
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a special fund for Epstein's victim was denied, but one
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of her attorneys told the Post and Courier that she
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had received a settlement from the estate. Accountant Richard Kahn
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at first acknowledged the settlement, then, after conferring with his attorney,
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said he can neither confirm nor deny any payment. Blanche
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faces what are expected to be contentious confirmation hearings later
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the summer before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Oh, they should
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be I really hope they don't softball that shit. If
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anybody needs to be grilled, it's todd bitch ass Blanche.
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The White House has said that Trump was totally exonerated
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by the release of the Epstein files. Well, that's it, folks,
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Donald Trump has been exonerated. We don't need to investigate anymore.
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We don't need to look into the case, we don't
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need to talk to anybody because Donald Trump's been exonerated.
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All right. Back here in reality, though, We're gonna keep looking,
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We're gonna keep investigating and We're gonna keep following the
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truth and the evidence wherever it leads us, just like
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we've been doing for the past seven years, And if
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it takes seven more, me and my big mouth, we'll
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be right here the whole entire time. But until then,
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that's going to do it for this one. All the
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