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2025: The Year Ahead | Gary & Mondo · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast today, everyone, Mono Gonzalez here with
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Speaker 2: Gary Steerman. We're going to be wrapping up really in
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Speaker 2: talking about twenty twenty four. We're already into twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: five and we're kind of be looking back but also
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Speaker 2: looking ahead. But before we do want to remind everybody
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Speaker 2: here we are.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four is in the record books.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, and uh, you know, just I kind of
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Speaker 2: just want to be a little casual here at the beginning,
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Speaker 2: because what's your thoughts overall about twenty twenty four, I mean,
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Speaker 2: just prophetically speaking.
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Speaker 3: Well, prophetically speaking, the thing that caught my attention was
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Speaker 3: high tech. We're talking about machines that can think. We're
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Speaker 3: talking about robotics. We're talking about twenty four to seven
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Speaker 3: global satellite coverage of everything. We're talking about intelligence being
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Speaker 3: beamed around the world in a millisecond. We're talking about
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Speaker 3: now a true globalist society, and there are people, there
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Speaker 3: are very greedy people out there who say this is
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Speaker 3: going to be all mine and their plot and planning
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Speaker 3: on how they can control the whole thing. And I
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Speaker 3: noticed this in the last election, kind of a globalist
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Speaker 3: thinking that had emerged.
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Speaker 2: No, I think that's exactly right. Just the overall feel was,
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Speaker 2: and we say this often, there were a feel is
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Speaker 2: that about twenty twenty four was a very pivotal year. Right,
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Speaker 2: Certainly we had elections and we'll talk about that, but
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Speaker 2: just in the prophetic scene, and we have several categories.
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Speaker 2: One of the best books out there that I always
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Speaker 2: it's always my go to in the sense of looking
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Speaker 2: at the categories. Is Steve Miller his book and certainly
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Speaker 2: we carry it at Prophecy Watcher's bookstore. His book is
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Speaker 2: called The Foreshadows, and we interviewed him not too long ago.
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Speaker 2: But he talks about certain areas and he says these
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Speaker 2: are the ones to watch as you see kind of
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Speaker 2: a culmination. Certainly has Israel, globalism, one world government, United Europe,
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Speaker 2: all invasive technology and surveillance, a one world economy, the
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Speaker 2: descent into moral and spiritual corruption, the proliferation of deception,
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Speaker 2: the assault on truth, increased Christian persecution. Certainly, hostilities towards Israel,
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Speaker 2: preparations for the new Temple in Jerusalem. You can include
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Speaker 2: the Red Heifer in that, the forming of a coalition
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Speaker 2: to destroy Israel.
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Speaker 1: So he has these.
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Speaker 2: Foreshadows, which I think Boy twenty twenty four, all of
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Speaker 2: those progressed in a way that would be towards what
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Speaker 2: we would say is Biblical fulfillment, or at least the
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Speaker 2: setting the stage.
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Speaker 3: You used to see, for example, China, you knew China
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Speaker 3: was plotting for global power, global control, but now you
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Speaker 3: see a little bit more. China is not just planning
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Speaker 3: for global control, they're doing it through the back door,
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Speaker 3: so to speak, with the Russians, dealing with the Arab Emirates,
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Speaker 3: dealing with various powers in Europe, and you don't even
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Speaker 3: hear about it until suddenly one day there's a news
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Speaker 3: item where the Germans and the Chinese have just made
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Speaker 3: a trade deal. How did that happen? In other words,
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Speaker 3: I think we're seeing a growing very very difficult to discern,
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Speaker 3: but a growing together of world trade, world economics, technology,
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Speaker 3: It's all coming together. And you think, well, that means peace, right,
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think what it means is
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Speaker 3: more and more stress until something finally gives and we
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Speaker 3: see several stress point right now, stress points I should say,
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Speaker 3: Israel being number one, Israel and the countries that surround Israel.
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Speaker 1: No, I think that's exactly right, Gary.
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Speaker 2: None of us who have been watching Israel, and nobody
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Speaker 2: that I watching, myself included, had any inkling of what
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Speaker 2: would happen over the last few months of twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: four as it relates to what happened in Syria, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean that to me, that was that came out
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Speaker 2: of left field, just not not that there hadn't been
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Speaker 2: war there and possibilities, but the way that it happened
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Speaker 2: so fast that bshar Asad would be fleeing from his
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Speaker 2: country and the entire country collapsed, and then to have
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Speaker 2: it taken over by these Sunni rebels so quickly, I mean,
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Speaker 2: there wasn't even an extended like battles of any kind, really,
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Speaker 2: they just the Assyrian soldiers kind of just dropped their weapons,
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Speaker 2: surrendered and even turned and turned coat. So now in
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Speaker 2: the midst of that, what did we see. Certainly, Israel
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Speaker 2: has been launching its war against the terrorists in Gaza,
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Speaker 2: a terrorists in Lebanon and then and has been doing
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Speaker 2: very well and neutralizing that threat.
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Speaker 1: And then in the.
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Speaker 2: Midst of this they seized, They took opportunity to take
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Speaker 2: Mount Hermone. They set up a buffer zone there, which
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Speaker 2: was very wise. They destroyed eighty to ninety percent of
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Speaker 2: all of Assad's military, their airplanes, their tanks, their trucks, supplies,
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Speaker 2: weapons depots, I mean, very very smart what they did,
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Speaker 2: knowing that in the midst of the chaos they had
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Speaker 2: a window to destroy all this so that the new
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Speaker 2: Sunni group couldn't have access to that. So that sets
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Speaker 2: up a very interesting thing. Get your thoughts on that,
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Speaker 2: Gary in that what do you think, how does that
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Speaker 2: contribute to looking forward into twenty twenty five, how does
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Speaker 2: it contribute to maybe the Ezekiel thirty eight scenario, because
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Speaker 2: we know that Turkey's come in now, Turkey is very
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Speaker 2: involved in Syria now and basically Iran is out.
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Speaker 1: Turkey's in.
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Speaker 2: And you've made comments as well in your writings about
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Speaker 2: Ezeko thirty eight that Tagarma is primarily a reference to
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Speaker 2: Turkey and Turkey has a very strong role.
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Speaker 1: Talk about that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Turkey is such an interesting place historically, going back
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Speaker 3: to the time of Christ and maybe five hundred years
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Speaker 3: before that, Turkey was sort of the operations center of
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Speaker 3: the Middle East. Trade, money, power, armies all went back
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Speaker 3: and forth through what we call Turkey today. And of
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Speaker 3: course the Seven Churches are there in Turkey and it's
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Speaker 3: kind of a focal point, and yet nobody ever gives
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Speaker 3: it that much credit. However, the Bible calls it the
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Speaker 3: House of Togarma, and it's mentioned in Ezekiel thirty eight,
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Speaker 3: and Ezekiel thirty eight talks about a build up, a
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Speaker 3: military build up in this region, but the build up
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Speaker 3: is rather severely changed in its complexion by God himself.
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Speaker 3: When you read Ezekiel thirty eight, the Lord says, I
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Speaker 3: am going to turn you back, Gog. In other words, God,
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Speaker 3: God is going to change Gog's intentions. So I'm going
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Speaker 3: to turn you back. I'm going to put a hook
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Speaker 3: in your jaw. You're just a big nasty beast. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to handle you like a big nasty beast, and
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Speaker 3: I'm going to turn you around in your army, and
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Speaker 3: I am going to point you in a direction you
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Speaker 3: really don't want to go. What do you think about that,
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I think. I'm watching Vladimir Putin,
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Speaker 3: and I think he's being yanked around. He doesn't like
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Speaker 3: with the people on the other side of the river
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Speaker 3: he's been trying to wipe out. He doesn't like his
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Speaker 3: involvement with the Arab States necessarily, and yet he's being
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Speaker 3: jerked around into a place that he does not want
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Speaker 3: to go. I don't think he wants to go south
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Speaker 3: and get into a big fray in the Middle East,
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Speaker 3: which would involve many armies and could really deplete his
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Speaker 3: economy severely. And so I think he's trying to kind
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Speaker 3: of stay where he is. But I've always thought about this.
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Speaker 3: The Bible describes this dog fellow, whoever he is, and
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Speaker 3: we all have our ideas as someone who is satisfied
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Speaker 3: with his power, but he really doesn't want to get
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Speaker 3: involved in the Middle East, and God says, nope, You're
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Speaker 3: going to get involved in the Middle East. That's what
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Speaker 3: we're seeing right now.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a very interesting.
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Speaker 2: Thought because you know, most of the time when people
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Speaker 2: think of Ezekiel thirty eight, you know, Russia gets the
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Speaker 2: front and center, but and Iran, certainly Persia's mentioned in
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Speaker 2: there too.
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Speaker 1: But I think.
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Speaker 2: That with Turkey filling the vacuum, Rdawan very clearly has
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Speaker 2: tried to fill the vacuum. And now his goal has
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Speaker 2: always been a Sunni call of fate right going. He
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Speaker 2: recently he's talked about reconquering Jerusalem because during the Ottoman Empire,
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Speaker 2: which was the Turkish Empire, you know, from fourteen the
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Speaker 2: fifteenth century all the way up to nineteen seventeen, they
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Speaker 2: had it. And so he's using that center of language.
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Speaker 2: And so you know, Iran and Iraq and has Blah,
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all Sheites, and so they having them removed.
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Speaker 2: Now you have these other groups that are coming in
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Speaker 2: there that are Sunni. So the goal is to have
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Speaker 2: this sunny, you know, call of fate extending all the
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Speaker 2: way around from Turkey over to Saudi Arabia. And no doubt,
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Speaker 2: Erduan wants to be the new guy on the new
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Speaker 2: guy on the block. So these increased threats that he's
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Speaker 2: making against Israel fits very well within the trajectory. We'll
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Speaker 2: use that word of Ezekiel thirty eight. I wonder too,
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Speaker 2: you know, and maybe we can talk about this. You know,
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Speaker 2: we're in the window now between the election of Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump and his inauguration, and the question then comes to be.
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Speaker 1: When he comes in.
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Speaker 2: He certainly has a history of supporting Israel, giving them
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Speaker 2: practically free reign, restraining the money that has gone for
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Speaker 2: the even the terrorists in the Palestinian authority who are
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Speaker 2: paying you know, taking away the money because they were
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Speaker 2: paying it to terrorists for killing Jews. So Israel feels emboldened,
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Speaker 2: no doubt that at least they'll have some support, some
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Speaker 2: consistent support from Trump. It doesn't mean that Trump will
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Speaker 2: give them everything, but we do. I did hear Jared Kushner,
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Speaker 2: Trump's son in law, say recently that Trump is not
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Speaker 2: committed to a two state solution. Now that's not what
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Speaker 2: he was in his first administration, that's right. So he
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Speaker 2: came out because what he said was Trump is committed
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Speaker 2: to whatever solution works for peace. So he's still trying
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Speaker 2: to promote peace, but not necessarily through the mechanism of
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Speaker 2: a two state solution.
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Speaker 1: But all that to.
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Speaker 2: Say that when Trump comes in, what do you think
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Speaker 2: that will contribute to Israel's boldness, strength, weapons supply.
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Speaker 1: You know, eas ECU thirty nine.
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Speaker 2: Says that when they come back, they'll they'll be an
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Speaker 2: exceedingly great army, and they're showing that right now.
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Speaker 3: The weapons are named and they are super weapons. But
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Speaker 3: you bring up a very interesting point because we need
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Speaker 3: to kind of go back to the past and remember
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Speaker 3: that when Biden was elected, the first thing he did
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Speaker 3: was take all of our power out of Afghanistan. We
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Speaker 3: had the finest air base in the Middle East, eighty.
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Speaker 1: Four billion dollars worth of stuff left.
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Speaker 3: It's an amazing number. Overnight. He just jerked it out
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Speaker 3: of there. He removed. What he did was topple the
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Speaker 3: power structure that had existed for a very long time,
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Speaker 3: destabilized it. It's now been destabilized for four years. It's
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Speaker 3: not getting more stable, it's getting less stable. And guess
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Speaker 3: what the president who left office four years ago is back.
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Speaker 3: What do you think he's going to do in the
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Speaker 3: Middle East. I think he's going to try to reverse
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Speaker 3: what was done when he left office four years ago,
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Speaker 3: and he's going to do that to try to stabilize
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Speaker 3: the situation of Middle Least. But I don't know that
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Speaker 3: it's going to stabilize it. Basically, Scripture doesn't talk about stabilization.
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Speaker 3: Scripture tells us no matter where we look, it tells
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Speaker 3: us that there's going to be increasing instability in the
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Speaker 3: latter days. So I think that with this new pattern
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Speaker 3: of power that we have now, which is just as
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Speaker 3: we're talking, is just about to change radically. I believe
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Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is going to try to re establish
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Speaker 3: the stability that was there when he left office. Scripture
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Speaker 3: says there won't be too much stability in the Middle Least, however,
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Speaker 3: So I don't know.
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Speaker 2: The other thing that I think on that is, you know,
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Speaker 2: we often we're Americans, so we want to know naturally
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Speaker 2: where's America at? In Bible prophecy, why don't we mentioned
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Speaker 2: why aren't we on the front of stage. Well, you know,
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Speaker 2: I could be living in you know, Greenland or even
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Speaker 2: you know, say France, or what about even South Africa
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Speaker 2: and Australia. Hey, where are we at in prophecy? There's
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Speaker 2: a lot of countries not mentioned in prophecy. Now, certainly
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Speaker 2: not all of them are as influenceable, influencing as the
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Speaker 2: United States being you know, the superpower that it is.
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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, it's we know that the end time scenario
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Speaker 2: is primarily, not only, but primarily based around Israel. So
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Speaker 2: we see Israel what has in its future, no doubt
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Speaker 2: what it's doing. It's solidified, solidifying and stabilizing the area.
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Speaker 2: But it's surrounded by enemies and that hasn't changed. And
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Speaker 2: again Ertuwan's talking as we just mentioned. So the Ezego
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Speaker 2: thirty eight situation I think just took a step forward
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Speaker 2: because of Ertuwan's now his his direct influence in to
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Speaker 2: the Middle East there with with Israel and Syria and
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Speaker 2: even in the goal on Heights. So the other thing
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Speaker 2: that's but I'll say this, but Trump's position in his philosophy,
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Speaker 2: which is gonna be probably a little bit different in
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Speaker 2: some ways than his first administration.
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Speaker 1: But here what about globalism? What about one world government?
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt.
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Speaker 2: I find it interesting that, you know, we hear this
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Speaker 2: phrase that presidents are not elected, they're selected, which, okay.
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Speaker 1: Let's just run with that for a moment.
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that the same group, the same deep
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Speaker 2: state globalist group or whatever, that has been trying to
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Speaker 2: disrupt Trump for eight years and even trying to kill
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Speaker 2: him would then turn around and install them in. So
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Speaker 2: what it tells us is there's different factions that are
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Speaker 2: working behind the scenes within the globalist movement or the
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Speaker 2: cabal or whatever. So that's not surprising. Why would that
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Speaker 2: be surprising. But what it does is they're not gonna
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Speaker 2: go well, Gary man, we tried the best we could
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Speaker 2: for a years get rid of Trump.
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Speaker 1: He's in.
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Speaker 2: I guess we're just gonna go sip our marguerite as
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Speaker 2: you know in the Caribbean and take a break.
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Speaker 1: They're going to double down.
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Speaker 2: But globalism, I guess my question is is globalism and
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Speaker 2: the effort towards globalism going to continue or is it
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Speaker 2: going to take a break.
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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's going to continue, and I
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Speaker 3: think that the Far East is going to be much
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Speaker 3: more of a factor than we've ever seen before. I
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Speaker 3: keep reading about the armaments built up in China and
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Speaker 3: Jesu Ping is definitely a powermonger.
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Speaker 2: In Taiwan, right, and he's looking at Taiwan. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, he said it's going to be ours.
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Speaker 3: That's right, And Taiwan is a cultural and economic lynch pin. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it stabilizes the Orient and if he takes it, then
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Speaker 3: we're rising to another stage of shall we say, uh terror?
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Speaker 2: Well, you think think about the even the uh there's
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Speaker 2: gonna be massive amounts of bloodshed, but them coming in
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Speaker 2: there and let's say they had to take it in
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Speaker 2: in an extended in an extended war because of Taiwan's
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Speaker 2: dependence on the United States weaponry, which we're giving them
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Speaker 2: a lot of weaponry, and they go in there and
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Speaker 2: it's full war zone. Who knows how long it takes.
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Speaker 2: China's four and formidable. I don't think Taiwan can do
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Speaker 2: it by themselves. But just economically, you think about superconductor chips,
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Speaker 2: what that means for all of computers which are everywhere
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Speaker 2: now in all of the rest of the global economy.
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Speaker 2: But you know, kind of reminds you of of Revelation
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Speaker 2: six where you have famine, you have a pestilence, you
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Speaker 2: have war. It seems like a lot of the seals
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Speaker 2: h judgments that that could that could be there as
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Speaker 2: it relates to something like that, and that since I
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Speaker 2: guess what I'm really getting at, Gary is that globalism
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Speaker 2: is still going to be going full steam. They're just
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Speaker 2: going to be going into the shadows. Like you said,
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Speaker 2: with the East, that's going to be happening.
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Speaker 1: China's there.
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Speaker 2: We see a Revelation sixteen, the Kings of the East,
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Speaker 2: so they're definitely there in scripture. But the rest of
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Speaker 2: the world, they're just going to keep going. Trump might
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Speaker 2: he might impede some things, but overall, there's no way Globalism,
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Speaker 2: the World Economic Forum, the w World Health Organization, all
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Speaker 2: the other things that are happening in Europe, they are
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Speaker 2: heading towards a one world system that's not changed. Trump
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Speaker 2: can't stop that one.
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Speaker 3: World system controlled by China. And you may have noticed
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Speaker 3: lately that the Panama Canal brew hah is bubbling up one.
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Speaker 1: For those that don't know about explain that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Panama Canal actually was given up by the United
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Speaker 3: States years ago, I say it, you know, it functions.
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Speaker 3: We built it, we built it, but hey, we don't
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Speaker 3: need to control it. The locals can control it. And
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Speaker 3: it's working beautifully and it just has been. And the
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Speaker 3: Chinese took one look at that and said, wait a minute,
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Speaker 3: nobody's controlling this. We are going to start controlling.
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Speaker 1: And start blessing Panama with some money, some donations.
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Speaker 3: You've got it. And that has become an issue lately,
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Speaker 3: and an issue that Donald Trump has spoken of, and
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Speaker 3: he has pledged that when he is brought into office,
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Speaker 3: he's going to change that situation. Okay, that is poking
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Speaker 3: the eye of the Chinese emperor absolutely, and again that
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Speaker 3: takes us to another level of destabilization. And as far
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Speaker 3: as I can tell, as far as the eye can see,
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Speaker 3: right now, there is destabilization on a global level. Europe
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Speaker 3: is not doing too well, the nations of Europe. If
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Speaker 3: you notice, there's a great influx of Islam into Europe now,
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Speaker 3: not just thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of Islamics, and
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Speaker 3: they are taking charge in a way that only they can.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because they you know, I'm all
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Speaker 2: for loving all people, true and you know, I'm all,
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Speaker 2: come to America if you want to be a part
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Speaker 2: of what we're doing. But if you're coming here in
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Speaker 2: your religion you're trying to force Sharia law, then that's
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Speaker 2: not welcome here. I mean, if you want to believe
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Speaker 2: your religion is the only way to God, that's fine,
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Speaker 2: go for it. You're free to do that. It's a
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Speaker 2: free country. I believe Christianity is the only way to God.
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Speaker 1: We can.
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Speaker 2: I'll respect your viewpoint to have that, and I hope
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Speaker 2: you respect mine. I'm not going to try to kill you,
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Speaker 2: but can I trust you not to kill me? Well,
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Speaker 2: that's the real question. And I think what's happening is
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Speaker 2: as it spreads, they are bringing this radical form with them,
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Speaker 2: which means to subjugate people by force the sword of necessary.
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Speaker 2: And that's what's happening there. They're sticking together, they're not
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Speaker 2: assimilating into the culture. They're creating their own areas, and
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Speaker 2: then they end up getting on all the government subsidies
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Speaker 2: and the things like that, which will just I guess
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Speaker 2: what I hear often is they're very unthankful that they
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Speaker 2: get to come in, and yet they don't they're not
22:20
Speaker 2: willing to join in the prosperity. Hey, if your system
22:25
Speaker 2: works so well, you know, in a place, and try
22:28
Speaker 2: to go do it there. But let's see you do
22:29
Speaker 2: it without oil, right, if they didn't have oil, would
22:32
Speaker 2: there be any influence really by any of the And
22:36
Speaker 2: that's the sad think any of the Islamic countries.
22:38
Speaker 1: I say this in.
22:40
Speaker 2: A historical way because there's a golden age of Islam
22:43
Speaker 2: when they were contributing in the classical period to philosophy
22:47
Speaker 2: and astronomy and mathematics, it was amazing. And that's not
22:51
Speaker 2: the unfortunately Islam that see today.
22:54
Speaker 3: No it's not. And Islam is a would be dictatorship.
23:02
Speaker 3: They wish to be dictators to the whole world. Law, yeah, Charia,
23:07
Speaker 3: law demands it. If you've read the Quran, the Quran
23:11
Speaker 3: is not a shall we say, an easy read. It's blood,
23:17
Speaker 3: sweat and tears and get out of my way. You're dead.
23:21
Speaker 3: I mean, that's more or less what it says from
23:23
Speaker 3: cover to cover. And that is exactly the tack that
23:28
Speaker 3: has been taken in the Middle East, in Europe, in
23:32
Speaker 3: the streets the campuses of the United States of America,
23:36
Speaker 3: we see the foreshadowings of the Islamic march into our country.
23:43
Speaker 3: And I would think that Donald Trump would notice that
23:46
Speaker 3: and take some kind of alternative action. But that's going
23:49
Speaker 3: to be a big feature I think of his administration.
23:53
Speaker 3: And it's biblical because I've got my Bible open to
23:58
Speaker 3: Ezekiel thirty eight. Here we always yeah, and I'm looking
24:03
Speaker 3: at Chiba and d d and the merchants of Tarshish,
24:07
Speaker 3: and we're looking at the young Lions. I'm looking at
24:10
Speaker 3: Gog And thus say it the Lord, when you say
24:13
Speaker 3: you're dwelling safely, you're not that something is going to
24:18
Speaker 3: erupt into war. And I really believe that we are
24:22
Speaker 3: in the general vicinity of Ezekiel thirty eight. I really do.
24:27
Speaker 2: I absolutely agree Gary that you know the what would
24:29
Speaker 2: look when we look forward. The Turkey is becoming more
24:33
Speaker 2: extreme again. Twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, I
24:35
Speaker 2: remember looking at Ezekil thirty and being like, man, how
24:39
Speaker 2: worse Turkey. Yet they're very friendly, They're they're friendly to Israel.
24:42
Speaker 2: That's totally changed. So we see that changing. What about
24:45
Speaker 2: as it relates to the idea of the revived Roman
24:48
Speaker 2: Empire that many prophecies, you expect is going to be
24:53
Speaker 2: the main system by the midpoint of the tribulation when
24:56
Speaker 2: the Antichrist, I mean the Antichrist doesn't rule for seven years,
25:01
Speaker 2: he rules for forty two months. But he still is
25:04
Speaker 2: in the he's still developing his system in the beginning.
25:07
Speaker 2: That's not that he's not there, but he gets full
25:09
Speaker 2: unlimited control in the second half. And most people believe
25:13
Speaker 2: that'll be around or revive Rome.
25:16
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this, when you read about
25:18
Speaker 3: when you read the New Testament, Matthew, Mark Luke and
25:21
Speaker 3: John and you and some of the epistles, and you
25:25
Speaker 3: put together in your mind what the world looked like
25:28
Speaker 3: then in what we call Bible times, in the days
25:32
Speaker 3: of Jesus, and it was the Roman Empire from Rome
25:39
Speaker 3: actually from the Atlantic Ocean all the way across to Turkey,
25:43
Speaker 3: which was Roman territory. And guess what what we call
25:48
Speaker 3: the Holy Land.
25:49
Speaker 1: Now Mediterranean Basin basically.
25:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely and it was the Roman Empire. And
25:57
Speaker 3: of course we all remember, you know, the horrors of
26:01
Speaker 3: the days of Crucifixion, and the Romans UH played the
26:07
Speaker 3: major role in that entire UH scenario. And I think
26:13
Speaker 3: we're rolling back around to that kind of a structure again.
26:18
Speaker 3: It's been called the Revived Roman Empire. But essentially what
26:21
Speaker 3: it is a coalition of Europe, European and Asian nations
26:28
Speaker 3: in some kind of a power structure that controls the Mediterranean,
26:31
Speaker 3: and it controls the flow of money and goods and services.
26:36
Speaker 3: And that's where we're heading right now.
26:38
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting too. I agree that.
26:43
Speaker 2: When you when I see this prophetic scenario at the end,
26:48
Speaker 2: there's two main maybe three main players at the most.
26:51
Speaker 2: One would be I would say the East, which would
26:53
Speaker 2: be China, and then of course you have the revived
26:57
Speaker 2: Roman Empire. But what's missing there is Russia, even Turkey,
27:03
Speaker 2: Persia because I.
27:04
Speaker 1: Think they've been eliminated already in the Ezeka thirty eight war.
27:07
Speaker 2: So you really don't the Antichrist in the Mediterranean great base.
27:10
Speaker 2: And then when he comes and he's solidifying his power
27:15
Speaker 2: and he finally gets there by the midpoint, he's he's
27:18
Speaker 2: not gonna be uncontested everywhere, but there's no doubt. Revelation
27:21
Speaker 2: thirteen says that his reach will be worldwide, and so
27:26
Speaker 2: with a base of Europe, and so we see that
27:27
Speaker 2: right now with NATO kind of being the base, the
27:31
Speaker 2: military base of Europe and then with Russia, that's the
27:36
Speaker 2: current standoff right now. But if Russia is removed because
27:39
Speaker 2: of Musico thirty eight, then there's no more. There's nobody
27:42
Speaker 2: standing in the way. And so when you think about
27:44
Speaker 2: the reunification of Europe and them building their own force,
27:49
Speaker 2: especially if the United States gets neutralized somehow, the European
27:55
Speaker 2: Union has talked for decades about having their own military
28:00
Speaker 2: that's unified. And so as we watch all this again,
28:02
Speaker 2: all these things, I don't think anybody's saying that the
28:06
Speaker 2: tribulation is going to start next week. But we're watching
28:10
Speaker 2: all the trends, these foreshadows.
28:11
Speaker 1: That's what the that's.
28:12
Speaker 2: What we're looking at, and what we've seen in twenty twenty
28:15
Speaker 2: four contributes to it looking to twenty twenty five, even
28:19
Speaker 2: up to twenty six and twenty seven potentially with China
28:22
Speaker 2: and Taiwan and other things we're watching. We're watching these
28:27
Speaker 2: things come into place. And with Trump, the one thing
28:30
Speaker 2: that Trump has always maintained is that he didn't start
28:33
Speaker 2: any wars. Now, whether he can maintain that simply by strength,
28:39
Speaker 2: don't know.
28:41
Speaker 1: We'll see.
28:42
Speaker 2: But let's switch over and talk about something which you
28:46
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. Let's talk about the all invasive technology that
28:52
Speaker 2: Steve Miller brings up in his book The spread of
28:55
Speaker 2: all Invasive Technology and Surveillance that we've seen as we
29:00
Speaker 2: ended twenty twenty four. We saw great strides in artificial intelligence.
29:06
Speaker 2: We saw great strides within quantum computing. The Willow chip
29:10
Speaker 2: was just released by Google, outperforming its Sycamore chip from
29:15
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
29:17
Speaker 1: And this we moved forward.
29:20
Speaker 2: And you mentioned Elon Musk and Starlink has up to
29:23
Speaker 2: seven thousand satellites around the Earth and they're looking for
29:28
Speaker 2: twelve thousand, ultimately looking for thirty six thousand. Twenty twenty
29:32
Speaker 2: five is not going to change. In fact, Musk he
29:38
Speaker 2: broke his record for launches in a launching of I
29:41
Speaker 2: think it was one hundred and almost two hundred launches
29:44
Speaker 2: for satellites and other things in twenty twenty four versus
29:47
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. So this technology, as we move forward,
29:51
Speaker 2: which is going to be the backbone of the BT system,
29:55
Speaker 2: here we go, right, we're seeing this continue to set
29:59
Speaker 2: the stage.
30:00
Speaker 3: I believe we're there, and you and I have both
30:03
Speaker 3: written on a subject which is very familiar, which is
30:06
Speaker 3: the Ten Kings, the prophecy of the ten Kings. In
30:09
Speaker 3: the latter days, they coalesce, they form a global elite.
30:15
Speaker 3: We can see that happening right now. One of those guys,
30:18
Speaker 3: one of those ten Kings, stands up and he's a
30:21
Speaker 3: little bit more powerful than the rest, and he becomes
30:24
Speaker 3: the Antichrist. And now we have to calculate where are
30:29
Speaker 3: we on that scale right now? I think you and
30:32
Speaker 3: I both believe that the Ten Kings are alive and well,
30:36
Speaker 3: and they have power and lots of money and they
30:41
Speaker 3: it being one of the Ten Kings would involve saying
30:46
Speaker 3: to yourself, how can I stabilize this whole mess in
30:51
Speaker 3: the Middle East and in Europe and over here in
30:54
Speaker 3: China and come out on top and be the most powerful?
30:58
Speaker 3: And I believe that's what's going on in the world
31:01
Speaker 3: right now. It's described very well and by a couple
31:04
Speaker 3: of profits in the Old Testaments.
31:07
Speaker 2: No, it really is, Gary, because I find it fascinating.
31:10
Speaker 2: I mean, you're the one that kind of kickstarted me
31:13
Speaker 2: on this journey in thinking of the Ten Kings as technocrats,
31:17
Speaker 2: and then I had a chance to run with it
31:20
Speaker 2: and to write a couple articles in the magazine because
31:25
Speaker 2: it's to me, the Antichrist system the way that we
31:30
Speaker 2: see it in Revelation thirteen. You know, it's political, it's religious,
31:34
Speaker 2: and it's technological. You have all that there, and it's like,
31:36
Speaker 2: you know the economic side of it that the key
31:41
Speaker 2: is Revelation seventeen. These are kings without a kingdom. They
31:44
Speaker 2: don't have a kingdom. So they're not like the typical
31:48
Speaker 2: traditional you know ideas that well, there's there's the king
31:52
Speaker 2: over the North American area, there's a king over the
31:56
Speaker 2: South American continent. Well that's a region that's a kingdom.
32:00
Speaker 2: These are kings without a kingdom. And so that was
32:02
Speaker 2: the biggest revolutionary ideas that you know, we've been stuck
32:05
Speaker 2: in this you know, ten region idea. But it says
32:09
Speaker 2: very clearly they do not have a geographic kingdom. And
32:13
Speaker 2: so that being the case, who are they Well, as
32:16
Speaker 2: we mentioned, the Greek word just means a one who
32:18
Speaker 2: has unusual or transcendent influence or authority or power. And
32:22
Speaker 2: so right now, you know, we've been talking about it
32:25
Speaker 2: for a couple of years. We've talked certainly about Elon
32:27
Speaker 2: Musk being a potential at least he's the he's the
32:29
Speaker 2: quintessential technocrat. And here he is Now basically at the
32:35
Speaker 2: you have King Trump on his throne and then on
32:38
Speaker 2: his right hand is Elon Musk, which is so who's
32:42
Speaker 2: influencing who? And so we find that fascinating that at
32:46
Speaker 2: the end, and this is why we feel that this
32:48
Speaker 2: is important is in Relations seventeen thirteen, twelve and thirteen
32:51
Speaker 2: it says very clearly that the ten Kings will hand
32:54
Speaker 2: over their authority and their capabilities power the Greek word,
33:00
Speaker 2: their capabilities to the Antichrist in an agreement to rule
33:04
Speaker 2: him for a short period of time. So these guys,
33:08
Speaker 2: the Antichrist can't do it alone. He needs he needs
33:11
Speaker 2: worldwide surveillance. Oh thank you for Elon Musk for your
33:14
Speaker 2: twelve fifteen thousand. Maybe by then it'll be thirty thousand
33:17
Speaker 2: satellites where the entire world is covered, which allows not
33:20
Speaker 2: only for communication, mark of the beast, surveillance, economic buying, selling.
33:25
Speaker 2: You're buying through an app, now while here's my phone,
33:28
Speaker 2: and now I can buy in the middle of the
33:30
Speaker 2: Congo because I have a phone and I'm satellite connected.
33:34
Speaker 1: So all these things.
33:36
Speaker 2: It's pretty fascinating that these individuals extremely wealthy and influential,
33:40
Speaker 2: at least in one sense, one case, we could say
33:43
Speaker 2: that Elon Musk was the secondary version after Bill Gates,
33:48
Speaker 2: because Bill Gates had tremendous influence with the World Health
33:51
Speaker 2: Organization and others.
33:52
Speaker 3: Here we are, now, I want to ask you something else.
33:56
Speaker 3: We're talking here about the Antichrist system. It's for years,
34:00
Speaker 3: this whole latter day conglomeration of power has been referred
34:06
Speaker 3: to as the Antichrist system. And out of this comes
34:09
Speaker 3: the Antichrist. But on another level, what it is is
34:15
Speaker 3: an economic revolution. Yes, a revolution that turns the world
34:22
Speaker 3: to a global machine, global economy, yep, a global economy.
34:28
Speaker 3: And now when does the Church get raptured in the
34:35
Speaker 3: middle of all this? And I just thought i'd throw
34:37
Speaker 3: that at you because at this point in time, I
34:39
Speaker 3: think we need to say, well, this is a factor.
34:43
Speaker 3: I believe that when the Church is gone, everything will
34:47
Speaker 3: change globally. That is to say, the power, the global
34:52
Speaker 3: power structure is going to make a radical move of
34:57
Speaker 3: some sort. And we don't often talk about this, but
35:01
Speaker 3: to me it's a fascinating subject.
35:04
Speaker 1: No, I think you nailed it there because one of
35:07
Speaker 1: the things that I feel that you know, if the
35:11
Speaker 1: Lord terries and you and I are going to be.
35:17
Speaker 2: Sitting in front of these aren't golden microphones like Rush Limbaugh.
35:22
Speaker 2: But we're going to be sitting in front of the
35:24
Speaker 2: microphones kind of looking at a play by play, teaching prophecy,
35:28
Speaker 2: sharing the gospel, no doubt. I mean, you know, encouraging
35:31
Speaker 2: people to stand strong salvationists for Jesus alone. I mean,
35:35
Speaker 2: that's really why we're here. But what we don't know, Gary,
35:39
Speaker 2: is will how far will the Lord allow the church
35:43
Speaker 2: to remain as the system, not only the religious system,
35:48
Speaker 2: the political system and the economic system gets continued to
35:52
Speaker 2: be installed. How long are we going to be here?
35:56
Speaker 2: I mean, will we come to the point of being
35:59
Speaker 2: one hundred percent cashless? I mean I'm pretty much cashless already.
36:03
Speaker 2: I mean, who carries cash anymore? I really don't much.
36:06
Speaker 2: Everything is credit cards, So I'm already I'm already in,
36:09
Speaker 2: but I'm not forced to be in. I'm voluntarily in
36:12
Speaker 2: because of convenience. But will will we be here when
36:15
Speaker 2: we're forced in? Where everything now is digital? We we
36:19
Speaker 2: as we know, Uh, twenty twenty five most likely is
36:23
Speaker 2: going to be the year of the bitcoin. I mean,
36:25
Speaker 2: it's it's one hundred grand that that's it's hitting new records.
36:29
Speaker 2: Trump is very pro bitcoin, so all that all that
36:32
Speaker 2: technology of the blockchain being decentralized. Of course, all the
36:36
Speaker 2: banks are trying to do their own central uh bank
36:39
Speaker 2: digital currencies. So twenty twenty five is going to contribute
36:43
Speaker 2: to the one rule economy, but it's also going to
36:45
Speaker 2: contribute to the church. And saying is it okay? I
36:49
Speaker 2: mean you think about you know, you've pastored. You know,
36:52
Speaker 2: I always had a lot of compassion for the orphan,
36:55
Speaker 2: the orphans in the windows. There was a lot of orphans,
36:56
Speaker 2: but a lot of widows in the church as I've pastored.
36:58
Speaker 2: So you have the you know, the sweet eighty three
37:00
Speaker 2: year old you know, Betsy, And she says, wimando, is
37:04
Speaker 2: it okay? If I if I just go into the
37:08
Speaker 2: digital system? And I go, well, do you carry cash now?
37:11
Speaker 2: And she says not really. Everything my social Security checks
37:14
Speaker 2: already automatically deposited. I just use my debit card. And
37:19
Speaker 2: I said, you're already in there's nothing sinful about participating now. Again,
37:24
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, there's risk, right.
37:29
Speaker 1: There is now.
37:31
Speaker 3: So let me just recap. We are technically into a
37:38
Speaker 3: cashless economy global We technically have ten autocrats who are
37:45
Speaker 3: positioned right now, and we may know some of their names,
37:49
Speaker 3: we may not name them on this particular.
37:52
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure.
37:53
Speaker 3: We think we know maybe who A few of them
37:55
Speaker 3: are good candidates, good candidates, and so everything is poised
38:00
Speaker 3: to happen right now. And to me, this is one
38:05
Speaker 3: of the most exciting things I can think about. And
38:09
Speaker 3: what you have just said about the technocrats and about
38:13
Speaker 3: the cash cashalist society I think kind of puts a
38:17
Speaker 3: date stamp on where we are.
38:20
Speaker 1: He really does.
38:21
Speaker 2: There was a book that came out just probably about
38:23
Speaker 2: six months ago called The Control of Garchs, and if
38:28
Speaker 2: somebody does not have that, I absolutely it's It would
38:31
Speaker 2: be on my top ten books right now. Because this
38:35
Speaker 2: guy was not a Christian as far as I can tell,
38:37
Speaker 2: but he spent several years writing this book about not
38:42
Speaker 2: only Besos. I don't think he talks about Musk specifically
38:46
Speaker 2: in there, which was surprising. Besos the older guy forgot
38:52
Speaker 2: his name Soros, George Soros and others, and Soros's son
38:55
Speaker 2: is more wicked than Soros is as far as we
38:57
Speaker 2: can tell. So, but he was writing the way in
39:00
Speaker 2: which these control of arts are buying up through their
39:03
Speaker 2: wealth control of all the different systems, and then they're
39:07
Speaker 2: getting control by their lobbying. They own the FDA, they
39:12
Speaker 2: own the CDC, they own all these politicians. Again, the
39:19
Speaker 2: idea of Bill Gates being involved in fifty various industries
39:24
Speaker 2: mean he's one of the largest owners of farmland in America.
39:27
Speaker 1: I thought he was a tech guy. I thought he
39:29
Speaker 1: was a software guy. Well, so you see what he's doing.
39:31
Speaker 2: So he's used his vast wealth in order to spread
39:34
Speaker 2: it around in order to gain influence in control, which
39:37
Speaker 2: is what the whole really thesis of the book was.
39:42
Speaker 2: So we're seeing this as it relates to the timing,
39:44
Speaker 2: and we can also say too, you know, one of
39:47
Speaker 2: the other things here, we could just deception and truth
39:51
Speaker 2: with AI. Right now, people send me things. Every single
39:54
Speaker 2: day I get something about something. You know, we've had
39:57
Speaker 2: fog now, we've had drones, we've had had UFO signings,
40:01
Speaker 2: we've had orbs. All these things are going on, and
40:03
Speaker 2: oftentimes when people send me things, I'll be like, Hey, look.
40:07
Speaker 1: What's true anymore? What's true with AI? Now? There was
40:11
Speaker 1: a picture, it was it was amazing. I should show
40:13
Speaker 1: it to you. Maybe we can. We can show it.
40:15
Speaker 1: It was.
40:16
Speaker 2: It was a picture of Trump and Putin hugging, and
40:19
Speaker 2: it was Putin and uh Zelensky hugging together for Christmas
40:23
Speaker 2: getting together. They were they were all sitting around a campfire,
40:27
Speaker 2: and it looked amazing. Of course it wasn't real. None
40:30
Speaker 2: of it was real.
40:31
Speaker 3: And by the way, that's where we are today. We
40:36
Speaker 3: are we have reached the point when machines are thinking,
40:42
Speaker 3: and you talk about an opportunity for the big lie, yes, deceptions,
40:48
Speaker 3: exactly what the minor prophets talk about. You know, at
40:55
Speaker 3: the end of the Old Testament, they talk about horrible
41:00
Speaker 3: regimes coming to power, lying, and then you go to
41:04
Speaker 3: the New Testament. What do you have at the end
41:06
Speaker 3: of the Church Age? You have horrible regimes rising and
41:10
Speaker 3: telling lies. And then you turn to Revelation and you
41:13
Speaker 3: have the Antichrist, you know, on the white horse, and
41:17
Speaker 3: he goes forth lying in order to create a global
41:23
Speaker 3: economy or a global control system, which, by the way,
41:29
Speaker 3: he does. And everybody gets the mark of the beast.
41:32
Speaker 3: And we've talked about that since time immemorial. But I
41:37
Speaker 3: have the uncanny sense right now that we can almost
41:40
Speaker 3: see it happening. It's so close and you mentioned all
41:44
Speaker 3: of the oligarchs, and there are so many of them,
41:48
Speaker 3: and they all have one idea, But the Bible says
41:51
Speaker 3: there will be ten, and one of the ten it
41:55
Speaker 3: will rise to become the Antichrist. What a story, A
42:00
Speaker 3: wonderful thing that the Bible paints, A wonderful picture the
42:04
Speaker 3: Bible paints for us.
42:07
Speaker 2: You know, that's a good way to kind of tailor
42:10
Speaker 2: end this podcast, because you know, the Bible gives us
42:15
Speaker 2: all these things, and it doesn't give us to scare us. No,
42:19
Speaker 2: it gives us to bring encouragement. Jesus said to the disciples,
42:22
Speaker 2: I've told you this beforehand, so then when it does happen,
42:26
Speaker 2: you'll know that I am, that Jesus is who he
42:28
Speaker 2: says he was.
42:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll give you the opening few words. When
42:32
Speaker 3: you see these things beginning to come to pass, Comma, lift.
42:36
Speaker 1: Your head up.
42:36
Speaker 2: Yep, know your redemptions near. I mean, these are the
42:39
Speaker 2: things that encourage. When we see these things, it helps
42:42
Speaker 2: us to show that prophecy's true. We're not making this up,
42:45
Speaker 2: we're not reading into it. We're not newspaper sensationalists. I mean,
42:50
Speaker 2: just a standard look at the facts with Israel becoming
42:54
Speaker 2: a nation in nineteen forty eight really inaugurated the end
42:58
Speaker 2: of the age.
42:58
Speaker 1: How long is that ending? That that that ending of
43:00
Speaker 1: the age?
43:01
Speaker 2: Period, don't know, it's been at least seventy six years, right,
43:03
Speaker 2: I mean this year will be pushing seventy seven when
43:07
Speaker 2: it became a nation. But what it does is it
43:09
Speaker 2: tells us, hey, the stage is being set, no surprise,
43:13
Speaker 2: the deception is gonna get worse, Jesus. Jesus said the
43:15
Speaker 2: first thing in Matthew twenty four to four. Let no
43:17
Speaker 2: one deceive you. And that's why when it comes to
43:20
Speaker 2: AI and the technology and quantitum computing, that it's going
43:23
Speaker 2: to become a crazy world technologically, morally, things are going
43:29
Speaker 2: down worse and worse and worse Tewod Timothy three thirteen.
43:32
Speaker 2: Things are going to get waxed, worse and worse. So
43:35
Speaker 2: as we sit in and we watch things go around us,
43:38
Speaker 2: I don't think that Trump is going to Trump can't
43:43
Speaker 2: save the world from armageddon. Armageddon is on schedule always
43:48
Speaker 2: no matter who's president.
43:49
Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: But for us who are Christian, we stay in the book,
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Speaker 2: We stay doing God's business, we stay preaching the gospel,
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Speaker 2: seeing people get saved, discipling, making disciples, but also standing
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Speaker 2: by and watching it and looking for what's happening, and
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Speaker 2: teaching prophecy.
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Speaker 1: For Sicilian's five says that watched, be sober, be alert.
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Speaker 1: So here we are.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Gary, as you know what, maybe
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Speaker 2: wrap it up here with your final thoughts and sentiments
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Speaker 2: for the person that's watching.
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Speaker 1: Should they be fearful?
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you put it that way, because I've
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Speaker 3: got an answer. The Bible says that there will be
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Speaker 3: increasing persecution in the latter days before the raptor, there
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Speaker 3: will be increasing Christian persecution, and in the light of
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Speaker 3: that fact, what should Christians do? The Bible is very
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Speaker 3: very clear about what Christians should do in an era
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Speaker 3: of persecution. We should hold up one another in prayer
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Speaker 3: and in sacrifice and in service. And I think we
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Speaker 3: have a marvelous opportunity in the months and maybe the
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Speaker 3: years ahead, come together as the body of Christ and
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Speaker 3: to lift each other up and say, look, it looks
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Speaker 3: like it's going downhill from here, but we don't need
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Speaker 3: to be dismayed because we are safe in the Lord,
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Speaker 3: in the power of his might. And our job as
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Speaker 3: Christians is to lift up one another, pray for one another,
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Speaker 3: and look up at all times.
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Speaker 1: Amen to that.
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Speaker 2: And I'm very hopeful that that even from a political
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Speaker 2: perspective that there's no doubt Trump is way more friendly
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Speaker 2: to Christian liberties and the freedom to again to gather
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Speaker 2: and you know, against censorship. Let's hope free speech, so
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Speaker 2: that we can continue to share the Gospel in this
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Speaker 2: in this maybe short window, whatever that might looks like.
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Speaker 1: But no doubt, the rest of the world is heading
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Speaker 1: in that direction. And here we are. We're called to.
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Speaker 2: Stay busy, to stay focused, to stay focused on the
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Speaker 2: Lord and the Gospel itself. And Garret, it's been exciting here.
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Speaker 2: We are looking at to twenty twenty five, no doubt
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Speaker 2: it'll be far more interesting, I think than twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2: I have a feeling we'll be saying that every year
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Speaker 2: until the Lord returns.
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Speaker 3: Amen. And by the way, these are good days. We
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Speaker 3: are blessed.
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Speaker 2: Heymen, everybody, thanks for listening today, and we will catch
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Speaker 2: you next time.