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- 0:03Speaker 1: Something's going to happen.
- 0:06Speaker 2: What what's gonna happen? Help?
- 0:24Speaker 1: All right, everybody, thank you for joining us. It's another
- 0:27Speaker 1: this is magical mailbag. I wanted to I wanted to
- 0:30Speaker 1: throw in that little tribute to uh my boy Trevor
- 0:33Speaker 1: Moore there. If you guys don't know about Trevor Moore,
- 0:35Speaker 1: he was she was a silly motherfucker and uh yeah,
- 0:41Speaker 1: so he made a lot of videos like that and
- 0:43Speaker 1: they killed him for it. So, you know, they couldn't
- 0:45Speaker 1: stand to have a guy like that sort of take
- 0:48Speaker 1: the place of somebody like Alex Jones because you know,
- 0:53Speaker 1: you see younger dude, and he had a lot more
- 0:55Speaker 1: longeviany and he didn't really have any sort of allegiance
- 0:58Speaker 1: to and the things that Alex Jones does. So right
- 1:03Speaker 1: around the COVID time they popped him, and uh, we
- 1:06Speaker 1: don't know exactly why he died, and they haven't really
- 1:09Speaker 1: gone into too much detail about it, but yeah, that's
- 1:11Speaker 1: Trevor Moore. So if you guys don't know, look up
- 1:13Speaker 1: the whitest kids you know, and Trevor Moore and Kitty history.
- 1:17Speaker 1: That was one of the funnier ones. I thought, you
- 1:19Speaker 1: guys would bite that one. So what do we have
- 1:23Speaker 1: for symbols tonight? Did you have yours? Ready?
- 1:27Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, let me just pull up the image real quick.
- 1:29Speaker 3: I do have the Sata square. I couldn't remember if
- 1:32Speaker 3: I've done that or not before, so I don't think so.
- 1:35Speaker 3: So if I have, I'm sorry, But I do think
- 1:39Speaker 3: this will be a little bit different. So in the
- 1:42Speaker 3: first time it did actually get a little bit more
- 1:44Speaker 3: on it than I've seen before. All right, there it is, sorry,
- 1:48Speaker 3: pull it off for you, all right. So, yes, we
- 1:51Speaker 3: have the Sata square. This was a little interesting. Sanata
- 1:56Speaker 3: square is an ancient Roman magic square consisting of five
- 2:00Speaker 3: Latin words sata, a repo, tenant, opera, rotas arranged in
- 2:07Speaker 3: a five by five grid. Each row in column reads reads,
- 2:11Speaker 3: reads the same forward and backward, forming a two dimensional palindrome.
- 2:16Speaker 3: A date backs at least to the early first century
- 2:19Speaker 3: a d. The oldest known example was found etched on
- 2:22Speaker 3: a Pompeii column pre a d. Sixty two, which we
- 2:25Speaker 3: will go back to on this whole thing right here
- 2:27Speaker 3: at the end sixty two. And by the Middle Ages,
- 2:31Speaker 3: the Sata square was widespread across Europe Asia, minor in
- 2:34Speaker 3: North Africa. The five words in the square are Latin satar,
- 2:38Speaker 3: sour or planter, sower or planter. This is supposedly tenant, holds,
- 2:45Speaker 3: opera works or efforts, and rotas is wheels, and the repo,
- 2:50Speaker 3: which does not occur elsewhere in Latin. Most scholars treat
- 2:54Speaker 3: a repo as a proper name or coined term. A
- 2:57Speaker 3: Commish English rendering is a repo. The sower holds or
- 3:02Speaker 3: guides the wheels with skill. It was like a chariot
- 3:06Speaker 3: ride of him. For example, one authoritative source translated translates
- 3:11Speaker 3: it roughly as a repo.
- 3:12Speaker 2: The sower guides the wheel with skill. Sorry.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Another power phrase is farmer. A repo works his wheels
- 3:22Speaker 3: with his plow. These differ only a nuance. The square
- 3:27Speaker 3: essentially depicts a farmer, sower and his plow, because opera
- 3:31Speaker 3: can imply by or with effort. Some read the phrase
- 3:35Speaker 3: as aditive light construction, not exactly show what that means.
- 3:41Speaker 3: In any case, a repo remains okay. It may be
- 3:44Speaker 3: a proper name, perhaps are a mythical plowman, or a
- 3:47Speaker 3: cryptic insertion needed to make the palindrome work. In practice,
- 3:53Speaker 3: translations vary, but all revolve around the sower for sator
- 3:56Speaker 3: tending to plow or wheels again when and where it
- 4:00Speaker 3: appears the Roman period, first attested in the Roman Empire.
- 4:04Speaker 3: The earliest known, supposedly Rotas form, was discovered in Pompey, Italy,
- 4:08Speaker 3: dated before AD sixty two. Additional examples of the Rotas
- 4:12Speaker 3: form were later found scratched on walls endure europosts in
- 4:18Speaker 3: Syria around two hundred eight D. Then the square appears
- 4:23Speaker 3: in Christian contexts. Sixth century Greek script Satyr is preserved
- 4:28Speaker 3: on an Egyptian clay amulet Berlin Papyrus collection, and the
- 4:33Speaker 3: bronze sixth century amulet from Asia Minor in Berlin shows
- 4:37Speaker 3: the square alongside two fish and the word ic hth
- 4:43Speaker 3: Us symbol for Christ.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Supposedly yes, thank you very much, sir.
- 4:49Speaker 3: I appreciate that medieval Europe Latin satar inscriptions abound, shot
- 4:55Speaker 3: showing up in medieval Europe around the eighth to fifteenth century.
- 4:58Speaker 3: They found carved on church walls, castle facades, and monastery manuscripts.
- 5:03Speaker 3: For one example, the Carolingian Bible I'm saying that right
- 5:08Speaker 3: from eighty eight twenty two, and many cathedral facades in
- 5:12Speaker 3: France and Italy bear the state of square. So now
- 5:17Speaker 3: so remember the oldest examples from Pompeii Buried a d.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Seventy nine and other early Roman sites, confirming the formula
- 5:26Speaker 3: was used by the mid first century Jesus sorry, yes,
- 5:32Speaker 3: by the mid first century. These findings predate any documented
- 5:38Speaker 3: Christian community there, which has major I guess implications of
- 5:44Speaker 3: problems for the origin theories. The early twentieth century scholars
- 5:48Speaker 3: tend to see a Christian origin linking the hidden pattern
- 5:52Speaker 3: nostri cross, but the Pompey evidence doesn't go along with that.
- 5:57Speaker 3: As one modern summary notes, the Pompeian square, dated fifty
- 6:00Speaker 3: to seventy eight D, was produced only around forty years
- 6:03Speaker 3: after the estimated death of Christ, which would make it
- 6:06Speaker 3: almost like remarkably early instance for a Christian talisman, suggesting
- 6:11Speaker 3: instead that the original was not likely explicitly Christian. Various
- 6:16Speaker 3: origin hypotheses have been proposed. Duncan Fishwek in nineteen sixty
- 6:20Speaker 3: four argued that a community of Latin speaking Jews and
- 6:23Speaker 3: late Roman Republic or early Empire devised the square. In
- 6:27Speaker 3: his view, they clearly encoded the prayer Our Father Paternostra
- 6:31Speaker 3: and the intersecting words with ao for alpha omega, making
- 6:35Speaker 3: a hidden arcaustic of the Lord's prayer. Others have suggested
- 6:40Speaker 3: pagan or magical origins, For example, that Cambridge Library notes
- 6:45Speaker 3: that some theories favored Jewish, Mythraic or even ancient Greek
- 6:48Speaker 3: sources over the Christian one. Likewise, Corinium Museum researchers observed
- 6:54Speaker 3: that the formula's dating and content are too early for Christianity,
- 6:58Speaker 3: so it may have started as a hidden sign of
- 7:00Speaker 3: wordplay long before Christians repurposed it. Connections to Mithraism or
- 7:06Speaker 3: Roman religion have been floating, noting Satyr could denote a
- 7:09Speaker 3: sky father like Jupiter. Other scholars emphasize the possibility that
- 7:14Speaker 3: it was originally just a secular magical puzzle, a clever
- 7:19Speaker 3: palindrome of letters, and only later took on religious symbolism.
- 7:23Speaker 2: That's another theory. But and again, real quick what it means.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Through history, the Stata square gathered many mystical interpretations. In
- 7:31Speaker 3: medieval and later contexts, It was widely apotropaic, treated as
- 7:36Speaker 3: a charm or incantation. For instance, medieval spell books and
- 7:40Speaker 3: church inscriptions use it to ward off evil, sickness or disaster.
- 7:45Speaker 3: One Library notes that from the sixth century onward, the
- 7:48Speaker 3: status square has held in an important function as a
- 7:51Speaker 3: magical charm, used to cure sickness, ever disaster, and protect
- 7:55Speaker 3: against evil spirits. Traditional folklore examples or legion in eleven
- 8:01Speaker 3: to the fifteen eleventh to fifteenth century English manuscripts, it
- 8:04Speaker 3: appears among childbirth and charms. In Germany, it was reputed
- 8:09Speaker 3: to extinguish fires. Even as late as the nineteenth and
- 8:13Speaker 3: twentieth centuries, Pennsylvania, Dutch folk medicine inscribed it on their
- 8:17Speaker 3: bread to feed rabies patients. These users treated the square
- 8:22Speaker 3: as inherently magical, perhaps due to its unusual symmetry and
- 8:27Speaker 3: the word Satar sower suggesting fertility and protection. On the
- 8:32Speaker 3: symbolic side, many have seen cosmological or numerological meaning in
- 8:36Speaker 3: the Satar's pattern. In the square's patterns, Medieval Christians loved
- 8:40Speaker 3: the hidden pattern nostri cross the alpha and omega a
- 8:45Speaker 3: left over a leftover implied God as the beginning in
- 8:49Speaker 3: the end of the universe. Some modern occultists spin it further,
- 8:52Speaker 3: reading Satar as a creative sower deity, or linking the
- 8:55Speaker 3: five words or letters to mystical numbers. Or five womb
- 9:00Speaker 3: of five elements, but these are a speculative Antiquaratan accounts.
- 9:05Speaker 3: It has been tied to Mythyraic or Judaic symbolism. For example,
- 9:09Speaker 3: one interpretation treats the square as a mythematical equation standing
- 9:14Speaker 3: for the Jewish God. Conversely, other note that the Latin
- 9:18Speaker 3: sata was used for the chief Roman god Jupiter, making
- 9:21Speaker 3: the Great a hidden paged homage to the Heavenly Father.
- 9:25Speaker 3: All such readings numerological sums, Egyptian origins, et cetera. At
- 9:30Speaker 3: the bottom. Scholars still are kind of confused. But those
- 9:34Speaker 3: are all the theories.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Wow, So there's so much to unpack from this. I
- 9:41Speaker 1: think the thing that pops out the most is the
- 9:43Speaker 1: end in the middle of the cross. Let me go
- 9:46Speaker 1: back to that n E. T tenet and so you've
- 9:51Speaker 1: got that cross right there in the middle of the
- 9:53Speaker 1: tenet cross, and it's like holding from both sides, right,
- 9:58Speaker 1: So it's not just one thing, it's many things. And
- 10:02Speaker 1: I think that sat Or really gives that that feel
- 10:06Speaker 1: to the heavenly Father, because you know, all over the
- 10:10Speaker 1: Bible they're sewing and reaping, sewing and reping, sowing and reaping.
- 10:12Speaker 1: So this is like the divine sewer who is skillfully
- 10:16Speaker 1: holding the wheel, and that could be the wheel of
- 10:21Speaker 1: the plow or the wheel of time and fate. You know.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of implications from that.
- 10:28Speaker 3: Yeah, that was something that I repo I read before
- 10:30Speaker 3: that they tie it to agriculture just because of like
- 10:32Speaker 3: the wheel, which I do on this stand. But it's
- 10:34Speaker 3: just like, well, the chariot isn't worrying, Like the chariot
- 10:37Speaker 3: isn't plowing the field, and it has a wheel, you
- 10:40Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like there's other reasons why something
- 10:43Speaker 3: could have a wheel and be symbolism. But yeah, like
- 10:46Speaker 3: you had said, it could be time. That's what I'm saying, Like,
- 10:48Speaker 3: how do we know it's not agriculture necessarily.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Well, that's the fun part of this is that there's
- 10:55Speaker 1: so many different connections that it makes, or it could
- 10:58Speaker 1: mean all visual connections. So, yeah, I love the symbol.
- 11:04Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things. It's you know, I
- 11:07Speaker 1: keep bringing it up, but the stylized s that everybody
- 11:09Speaker 1: would draw on their their notebooks in school. It's kind
- 11:13Speaker 1: of like that same thing that it has some sort.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Of a.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, it has some sort of you know,
- 11:21Speaker 1: it's easy to make, and it kind of has a
- 11:24Speaker 1: visual puzzle aspect to it.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Right.
- 11:28Speaker 1: So, but the Rotas is really what brings it all home,
- 11:33Speaker 1: you know, because it's the sewer is the opposite of
- 11:38Speaker 1: the wheel, right. The sewer has the beginning and has
- 11:42Speaker 1: an end. The wheel has no beginning and no end. Right,
- 11:45Speaker 1: So where implies reaper, but rotas is the exact opposite.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And so you've got all of these little puzzles in there.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Meaningful that is not exactly because again it's Latin, right,
- 11:59Speaker 1: and we sort of lose the whole perspective on the Latin. Yeah, because.
- 12:04Speaker 2: That's a huge problem there too, actually really.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Right, right, but it still holds, It still holds meaning
- 12:13Speaker 1: like people can still find meaning in.
- 12:15Speaker 3: It at this point it's magical, probably from us thinking
- 12:17Speaker 3: it is, even if it never was.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I think I think the reason why it's stuck with
- 12:23Speaker 1: the Christians is the Tenant cross, you know, because he's
- 12:27Speaker 1: holding the universe in place, you know, it's it's the
- 12:30Speaker 1: four directions, the cardinal points, and it's all held firm.
- 12:33Speaker 1: You know. I think Ethan would love this symbol because
- 12:37Speaker 1: it's got that you know, polarity of duality right there.
- 12:42Speaker 1: And it's the four corners, it's the four sections, so
- 12:45Speaker 1: it's definitely got a lot of energetic potential in that regard.
- 12:50Speaker 1: So yeah, I love the Stator Square. It's a classic.
- 12:54Speaker 1: So I had the let me see share my screen,
- 13:05Speaker 1: all right, So I pulled up the ome Phulus. I
- 13:08Speaker 1: talk about it all the time, but I never get
- 13:10Speaker 1: too deep into it. So this is the navel stone Omfullus.
- 13:15Speaker 1: So that's what Omefhulus means, is the navel of the world.
- 13:20Speaker 1: And what's interesting about the navel of the world is
- 13:23Speaker 1: that it's not restricted to just the Greeks. It's not
- 13:26Speaker 1: restricted to just the Native Americans. Pretty much every culture
- 13:30Speaker 1: on all these different continents has their own idea of
- 13:33Speaker 1: the navel of the world. Gaya's navel Minnesota comes from
- 13:39Speaker 1: the word mini gota, and that means the navel of
- 13:43Speaker 1: the world. Right, So the navel stone, this is the
- 13:47Speaker 1: central pillar of everything in that culture. Everything comes back
- 13:52Speaker 1: to that. So this stone particularly is the stone that
- 13:57Speaker 1: they said was used to imitate Zeus when Chronos was
- 14:05Speaker 1: eating his children. So Zeus was hidden away and this
- 14:10Speaker 1: stone was wrapped up in a cloth and given to Kronos,
- 14:13Speaker 1: he ate this instead of Zeus, right, and then when
- 14:17Speaker 1: he spit it back out, he threw up all of
- 14:20Speaker 1: the rest of the Olympians with it. So this was like,
- 14:24Speaker 1: you know, the plug for the next generation. And then
- 14:26Speaker 1: once it came loose, then all the Olympians came out.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Different ways of thinking came out from Kronos.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Right.
- 14:32Speaker 1: So all of the Olympian gods are like the higher
- 14:35Speaker 1: order brain functions, and the Titans are more like the
- 14:39Speaker 1: lower the physical aspect of these gods, right, So Kronos
- 14:44Speaker 1: represents sort of like the last physical boundary of time
- 14:48Speaker 1: and for us to see him as the end position
- 14:53Speaker 1: as they you know, look at the seven planets, Saturn
- 14:56Speaker 1: is on the end. That's the boundary marker. Right. So
- 15:00Speaker 1: this one particularly stands out to me because what's around
- 15:04Speaker 1: it is supposed to be the stylized net, right, So
- 15:08Speaker 1: the stylized net was used to retrieve this out of
- 15:11Speaker 1: Kronos's belly, and the stylized net around it looks like
- 15:17Speaker 1: bees to me, looks like bees crawling on a beehive,
- 15:21Speaker 1: and it looks beehive shaped, right, And the beehive shape
- 15:26Speaker 1: I think is very significant, especially in Delphi because the
- 15:30Speaker 1: priestesses who would attend to Delphi were called Melisa and
- 15:36Speaker 1: they were the you know, honey bee priestesses, right, so
- 15:40Speaker 1: they're kind of giving it away what they think of
- 15:43Speaker 1: Delphi and this center point. It's like kind of a
- 15:46Speaker 1: hive mind mentality. And so it's certainly not the only
- 15:52Speaker 1: homeful of stone. There's lots of recreations and stuff like this,
- 15:55Speaker 1: but you could see there's sort of a bee aspect
- 15:58Speaker 1: to these, right, And so the olfullest stone was, oh,
- 16:03Speaker 1: there's a good one. You've got the orphic snake wrapped
- 16:07Speaker 1: around it here, and this one is just more of
- 16:11Speaker 1: like a general, you know, concrete pillar. But the idea
- 16:15Speaker 1: at Delphi was that this stone is what the the
- 16:22Speaker 1: the gods would breathe through into the pythia, into the
- 16:26Speaker 1: the Python priestess, who would then uh, you know, regurgitate
- 16:32Speaker 1: these oracles and then have it translated by the priests.
- 16:36Speaker 1: So there was something interesting going on here because Zeus
- 16:41Speaker 1: was said to release two eagles, and those two eagles
- 16:45Speaker 1: flew all the way across the world, and when they
- 16:47Speaker 1: crossed over, that place was considered the navel of the
- 16:51Speaker 1: world or the center of the world. And that was
- 16:54Speaker 1: right at Delphi. So this is indicative that the navel
- 16:59Speaker 1: of the world is the center point of the world.
- 17:02Speaker 1: And you know, for Americans today, I think our owmfulst
- 17:09Speaker 1: or our Batalist stone, the thing that represents the middle
- 17:13Speaker 1: of our world being a Christian society is in Israel.
- 17:19Speaker 1: So we don't have a ownfulst or a spiritual center
- 17:24Speaker 1: in ourselves anymore. We have to keep going on crusades
- 17:27Speaker 1: and these mission trips to this Israel to see all
- 17:31Speaker 1: of the spiritual happenings there and revisit and become part
- 17:35Speaker 1: of it. But it's not exactly, you know, our spiritual center,
- 17:40Speaker 1: somebody else's spiritual center. So it's it's kind of an
- 17:43Speaker 1: interesting thing because they were thinking about the spiritual center
- 17:46Speaker 1: in Israel. In fact, they have their own batalist stone
- 17:50Speaker 1: or their central stone, which they call Jacob's pill up right,
- 17:54Speaker 1: So Jacob was laying on the ground, he had his
- 17:59Speaker 1: head on a rock, right, and from this position he
- 18:03Speaker 1: had this dream of the stairway to heaven, and after
- 18:06Speaker 1: that he became known as Israel. So that was their
- 18:09Speaker 1: touchstone point which transformed you know, this this tribe into Israel,
- 18:16Speaker 1: and that comes through in the story of Jacob's Ladder. Well,
- 18:22Speaker 1: that's their Batalist stone, and that's on top of Mount Herman,
- 18:26Speaker 1: which is also interesting if you know the lore. So
- 18:30Speaker 1: this this Batalist stone idea is where you get a
- 18:33Speaker 1: lot of these mounds, right. The mounds are kind of
- 18:37Speaker 1: like the navel of the world and they connect the
- 18:39Speaker 1: sky with the earth. They represent that sort of central
- 18:43Speaker 1: pillar idea. You've also got the idea that the North
- 18:48Speaker 1: Pole is this massive magnetic mountain that exists at the
- 18:52Speaker 1: center of the world, and that magnetic mountain is the
- 18:56Speaker 1: closest place where you can get to the sky. And
- 18:58Speaker 1: what's interesting is we have a radiation belt around the
- 19:02Speaker 1: Earth and the only way to get through the radiation
- 19:04Speaker 1: belt is through either the North or South poles because
- 19:08Speaker 1: the radiation belt is thinner there and you can actually
- 19:11Speaker 1: make it in and out. So it's it's almost like
- 19:13Speaker 1: there is something to this idea of this centrality, this
- 19:17Speaker 1: axis point right, and so the axis that everything else
- 19:21Speaker 1: spins around would be kind of summed up in this
- 19:26Speaker 1: omful of stone. Right, So that is not symbol what
- 19:33Speaker 1: do you think of that?
- 19:36Speaker 2: There's a lot more than I haven'tknew before.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Actually got me thinking about that oracle of the Delpha,
- 19:45Speaker 3: so they we should go that only times that thing
- 19:49Speaker 3: comes up in like topics and stuff that I've even
- 19:51Speaker 3: COVID and I've never really gone into it too much.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Right, Well, there's there's hypotheses about how it worked. They
- 19:59Speaker 1: think that it was vulcan panic gases coming up and
- 20:02Speaker 1: the omeful of stone is actually hollow in the middle,
- 20:05Speaker 1: so they think that the volcanic gases were going up
- 20:08Speaker 1: through the middle of this stone and then seeping out
- 20:12Speaker 1: onto the priestess on the tripod. So she's sitting on
- 20:16Speaker 1: the tripod and supposedly these gases are coming up from
- 20:19Speaker 1: inside the volcano and she's receiving these visions from breathing
- 20:23Speaker 1: it in. But that's never really been substantiated, you know,
- 20:27Speaker 1: So I think there was something else going on. I
- 20:30Speaker 1: think it was far more spiritual than it was physical.
- 20:32Speaker 1: I don't think they were using a lot of drugs.
- 20:35Speaker 1: It was. It was much more you know, hypnosis based
- 20:38Speaker 1: and meditation based, and you know a lot of people
- 20:43Speaker 1: put a lot of stock into the drug use that
- 20:45Speaker 1: the Greeks were undergoing. But I think it was for
- 20:48Speaker 1: very special occasions. I don't think they were just drugged
- 20:51Speaker 1: out all the time. I think it had to be
- 20:53Speaker 1: ritually administered, you know, because all this stuff was magical, right,
- 20:59Speaker 1: and overuse magic was considered to be out of harmony
- 21:03Speaker 1: in Greek society. They actually banned black magic in both
- 21:08Speaker 1: Greek and Roman society. So you know, they're telling us
- 21:12Speaker 1: that they're full of demons. These are the cultures that
- 21:14Speaker 1: banned black magic. So go figure that is interesting. But
- 21:22Speaker 1: outside the Oracle of Delphi, you'll love this part. They
- 21:25Speaker 1: had a bag full of beans, and some of these
- 21:28Speaker 1: beans were painted white, and some of these beans were
- 21:30Speaker 1: painted black. So if you wanted your oracle red and
- 21:32Speaker 1: you didn't want to have to wait in line for
- 21:34Speaker 1: two to three months, you would stand there and put
- 21:37Speaker 1: your hand into the bag and pull out a bean,
- 21:39Speaker 1: and whether it was white or black, you'd get a
- 21:41Speaker 1: yes or no answer for your question. So if you
- 21:47Speaker 1: wanted to skip the line, you had that.
- 21:51Speaker 3: You know what I came across, I think it was
- 21:53Speaker 3: Empedocles in somebody else. They were like, weren't they like
- 21:56Speaker 3: against like eating beans?
- 21:59Speaker 1: It was a uh not. Paracelsusupposed his name, the guy
- 22:02Speaker 1: who came up with the Pythagoras against beans, because it
- 22:07Speaker 1: had this strange number to it, right, like he was
- 22:10Speaker 1: against the number that the beans represented or something. But
- 22:14Speaker 1: they did have the magic eight ball out in front
- 22:17Speaker 1: of the oracle if he didn't want to have to
- 22:18Speaker 1: wait forever.
- 22:19Speaker 2: So that's the original magic abel.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Holy shit, great bag of beans. I should go up
- 22:27Speaker 1: to people with a bag of beans and be like,
- 22:29Speaker 1: have a question in your mind now draw being. If
- 22:32Speaker 1: it's white, that means yes. If it's black, it means no.
- 22:35Speaker 1: You have been visited by the oracle.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Somebody says, what's the baptism of the dead. What the
- 22:44Speaker 2: hell is that?
- 22:46Speaker 1: Uh, well, they have the baptism of the dead with
- 22:48Speaker 1: the Mormons. The Mormons do that.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you know, that's what I was thinking. But
- 22:53Speaker 2: I didn't think that.
- 22:53Speaker 3: You know, that's when ye like Heidi, and I think
- 22:56Speaker 3: other people have told us, like you fucking sitting there,
- 22:58Speaker 3: like for all the people, right, like even dead, right, yeah.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Right, they would baptize people like Hitler and you know
- 23:06Speaker 1: all these other people.
- 23:08Speaker 3: They got those like golden cattle or something in this
- 23:11Speaker 3: fucking bath where they're doing it or some shit ritual room.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the golden cattle bath is part of
- 23:18Speaker 1: the baptism in general, but the baptism of the dead
- 23:22Speaker 1: is purely symbolic. So what they would do is, you know,
- 23:25Speaker 1: you would go there and you would pray for the dead,
- 23:26Speaker 1: and then they would have the symbolic baptism for them.
- 23:29Speaker 1: And the idea is you've got to be you know,
- 23:34Speaker 1: sanctifying the dead so that they can get out of
- 23:36Speaker 1: hell and you know, be in the afterlife with you.
- 23:40Speaker 1: So I don't know if any other cultures do baptisms
- 23:44Speaker 1: for the dead, but I find it really interesting. Oh,
- 23:49Speaker 1: next time, we're gonna do Bliphon. It's something that a
- 23:52Speaker 1: lot of people know in their subconscious mind but they
- 23:56Speaker 1: have no idea about.
- 23:59Speaker 2: So are you Are you reading anything? And no, because
- 24:03Speaker 2: I do want to at least mention.
- 24:04Speaker 1: I'm going to Gmail, all right, got a story for me?
- 24:07Speaker 2: No, I honestly, I'm gonna tell you the truth. One.
- 24:09Speaker 3: It's a kind of long and a mess and some
- 24:11Speaker 3: of the stuff in there. Because I was reading it
- 24:12Speaker 3: a little bit as you were going, I was like,
- 24:14Speaker 3: I don't know if this is legit or not. It's
- 24:16Speaker 3: getting way too like specific on like iparts, and I'm like,
- 24:19Speaker 3: I think you're fuck it with me.
- 24:21Speaker 2: I'm just be toeing. Honest, I got to read this
- 24:23Speaker 2: shit before I start reading it.
- 24:24Speaker 3: And I'm not as I'm not as risky as you
- 24:26Speaker 3: where you just fucking open up the mail and read it. Uh.
- 24:30Speaker 2: I really wanted.
- 24:31Speaker 3: What I wanted to do though, real quick, is to
- 24:33Speaker 3: remind people over this weekend to twenty fifth I think.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty fifth, twenty sixth, Yeah, something like that. This
- 24:40Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday, Arkansas. Uh, there's a paranormal event in
- 24:46Speaker 2: Little Rock. Check it out.
- 24:48Speaker 3: It's in the show notes. It's two flows, two days.
- 24:50Speaker 3: It's gonna be packed. I've looked at some of the
- 24:52Speaker 3: older years there and it's packed. There'll be hundreds of
- 24:55Speaker 3: people there. There'll be food trucks. They'll be ship outside,
- 24:57Speaker 3: they'll be shipped inside. Saturday at two o'clock. If you want,
- 25:01Speaker 3: probably worth the ten bucks just alone, you can watch
- 25:04Speaker 3: a bunch of grown.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Ups make bigfoot calls, so.
- 25:09Speaker 3: You can catch some bigfoot howls and screeches or whatever
- 25:12Speaker 3: the fuck they do for bigfoot. You can watch that
- 25:15Speaker 3: for a minute, and there'll be speakers and I will
- 25:18Speaker 3: have a booth there.
- 25:18Speaker 2: I will be doing interviews with people.
- 25:21Speaker 3: Yeah, so check it out if you're in the area.
- 25:23Speaker 3: It's only ten dollars each day unfortunately, but there will
- 25:26Speaker 3: be like multiple speakers and I think like more than
- 25:28Speaker 3: one room at a time, so definitely come check it out.
- 25:31Speaker 3: It is supposedly the biggest paranormal event that's annual every
- 25:35Speaker 3: year in Arkansas, so I think there's even other podcasts
- 25:38Speaker 3: going to be there and shit too, so check it
- 25:40Speaker 3: out if you can.
- 25:43Speaker 1: All right, so I've got a pretty short letter from
- 25:47Speaker 1: Samuel Souto.
- 25:48Speaker 2: If you want to hear it, yeah, do it.
- 25:50Speaker 1: And then I've got a part too to the dog
- 25:54Speaker 1: Man story. If you want to hear that one.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Well, we have ten minutes, so whichever one you can do.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Well, this was pretty short, so I'll get into my story.
- 26:03Speaker 1: At the Stanley Hotel, ess Park, did the weekend package
- 26:07Speaker 1: had the pleasure of the corner suite allegedly where the
- 26:10Speaker 1: maid doesn't like unwed totally had wild sex unwed tab
- 26:17Speaker 1: nothing realized that Dumb and Dumber was filmed there. I
- 26:21Speaker 1: pointed at the man on the Moon pic unaware I
- 26:25Speaker 1: was there. So you remember that scene in Dumb and
- 26:27Speaker 1: Dumber where he's like, we landed on the moon. Yeah,
- 26:32Speaker 1: he's like forty years after that's where he was at.
- 26:35Speaker 1: It was the same hotel. They pointed out it too,
- 26:41Speaker 1: which is kind of fun. And then it's a my
- 26:44Speaker 1: girl had a seance upon arrival. Oh that was part one,
- 26:48Speaker 1: so there will be more.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Damn, that was short. Yeah, the part came with that.
- 26:54Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be a but you
- 26:57Speaker 2: could have wrote part two in.
- 26:58Speaker 1: That, right, And you should have included your address because
- 27:02Speaker 1: I could have just sent that along to Nick and
- 27:03Speaker 1: you would have gotten something.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, m dmo, So send him another email with
- 27:08Speaker 3: part two. Put your put your thing in there. I mean,
- 27:11Speaker 3: that's even another thing. I mean, listen, I'd rather you
- 27:13Speaker 3: send this shit to him. But I mean you can
- 27:15Speaker 3: even DM me if you have to with your address,
- 27:16Speaker 3: if you're already gonna send one stickers or whatever, but
- 27:19Speaker 3: I prefer you to send them to Headless because I
- 27:22Speaker 3: probably won't check.
- 27:23Speaker 1: It, right, I got So you guys remember Joe Ferguson's
- 27:29Speaker 1: story about the dog Man. Yes, yeah, you got a
- 27:31Speaker 1: part two?
- 27:32Speaker 2: All right?
- 27:32Speaker 1: All right, So it's funny you mentioned curses around the
- 27:36Speaker 1: burial mounds my ex stepmother and some of her friends
- 27:40Speaker 1: years ago, apparently went to the mounds and got some
- 27:43Speaker 1: things like a vase, a bowl, and some arrowheads. And
- 27:46Speaker 1: my aunt's husband was part of the Cato Indians tribe,
- 27:49Speaker 1: so she brought the bowl for him. When he found
- 27:52Speaker 1: out where they came from, he told my aunt to
- 27:55Speaker 1: give it back to my stepmother and tell her to
- 27:57Speaker 1: take it back. But my aunt never did. She said
- 28:00Speaker 1: it was left in the house somewhere, maybe in the attic,
- 28:04Speaker 1: so it would makes sense if there was a curse.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Also in the same county is a place called Glimmer,
- 28:11Speaker 1: and Glimmer has a road called Cherokee Trace that is
- 28:14Speaker 1: where the mounds are at. It was also part of
- 28:17Speaker 1: the Trail of Tears where the Native Americans traveled being
- 28:21Speaker 1: kicked off their land. That area has a lot of
- 28:23Speaker 1: weird things happen. One thing is that Kelly Wilson case.
- 28:27Speaker 1: She was a high school girl who left work one
- 28:29Speaker 1: night and was never seen again. The story takes weird
- 28:32Speaker 1: turns when some kids that were taken to CPS because
- 28:35Speaker 1: of sexual abuse by their family members tell authorities that
- 28:39Speaker 1: then chief of police and their family would do satanic
- 28:42Speaker 1: rituals and that they killed Kelly Wilson. It was right
- 28:45Speaker 1: in the midst of the Satanic panic in the eighties
- 28:48Speaker 1: and early nineties. So how much was true who knows,
- 28:51Speaker 1: but it is very interesting. Check the case out and
- 28:54Speaker 1: you will see a lot of familiar things that we
- 28:57Speaker 1: hear again and again in the conspiracy community. Also, there's
- 29:01Speaker 1: a replica of stone Hinge in the Woods that you
- 29:04Speaker 1: could see the video on YouTube by typing Gilmer texas
- 29:08Speaker 1: stone Hinge. So that was that was the part too.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Okay, so it is cursed.
- 29:18Speaker 1: Don't take anything from burial mounts. I don't care if
- 29:21Speaker 1: it's shiny, if it's pretty, don't take them.
- 29:26Speaker 2: If you're with someone you don't like, tell them to take.
- 29:28Speaker 1: It right right, which is pretty nasty, but you know,
- 29:36Speaker 1: you never know if it's going to end up.
- 29:38Speaker 3: In your car, right, that's right, man. They put it
- 29:41Speaker 3: in their pocket, this will get it into your car.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Fuck right. Yeah.
- 29:47Speaker 1: People don't know this, but we're actually living on top
- 29:51Speaker 1: of an Indian burial ground. It's called America. So definitely
- 29:56Speaker 1: keep your hat on your shoulders out there people. But
- 29:59Speaker 1: this has been a another Headless's magical mailbag, and definitely
- 30:05Speaker 1: visit us next time. I've got a show on Sunday
- 30:08Speaker 1: with Ethan and Ricardo called the trialogues last week was
- 30:13Speaker 1: lit We were talking about exile. Why is exile not legal?
- 30:17Speaker 1: Why can't we strip people of their citizenship and get
- 30:20Speaker 1: them the fuck out of the country. Well, the Supreme
- 30:22Speaker 1: Court says that we're not allowed to do that because
- 30:24Speaker 1: that's cruel and unusual. But we've got murderers on death
- 30:27Speaker 1: row that are about to be killed, and you're telling
- 30:30Speaker 1: me exiling them and getting them out of the country
- 30:33Speaker 1: is a worse fate than killing them.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Yeah, good point there.
- 30:41Speaker 1: It's strange, but I think there's something to this, like
- 30:45Speaker 1: they don't want us to be able to exile people
- 30:47Speaker 1: because if we do, the first thing we're going to
- 30:49Speaker 1: try and do is exile the elites strip them of
- 30:52Speaker 1: their property. I think that happened a lot back in
- 30:55Speaker 1: the day, so they don't want that to happen again.
- 30:58Speaker 1: You know, this is like their insurance policy, no exile,
- 31:01Speaker 1: you know, So definitely check that out. And on Monday,
- 31:06Speaker 1: we've got another Alchemy show coming up. I've got I'm
- 31:10Speaker 1: gonna go over what I'm getting for supplies. You guys
- 31:13Speaker 1: can join me if you want to go step by
- 31:15Speaker 1: step and how to make Spajerics. You may think they're
- 31:18Speaker 1: called spagricks, but they're called Spajirics. And I didn't know
- 31:22Speaker 1: that until I had somebody else pronounce it out loud,
- 31:24Speaker 1: because you know, you read all these words in these
- 31:26Speaker 1: books and you have no idea how they're pronounced. They're
- 31:29Speaker 1: just all over the place.
- 31:31Speaker 2: People.
- 31:31Speaker 3: I was saying Gyro my whole life when it's Giro,
- 31:35Speaker 3: grew up in a Gyro. Greek people out there was
- 31:39Speaker 3: calling it a Gyro. What the's wrong with them?
- 31:41Speaker 1: Holy shit, Greeks are very apt to, you know, changing
- 31:47Speaker 1: their own culture. If other people are doing things to.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Say that to Long Island Italians, they try to blend in.
- 31:56Speaker 3: Oh real quick too, before you wrap it up and
- 31:58Speaker 3: just remind people about five to ten minutes, we'll be
- 32:00Speaker 3: going live on the occul Rejects and you'll be streaming
- 32:03Speaker 3: it out on here anyway. So yeah, we'll be going
- 32:05Speaker 3: live with Prometheus Lens covering John Wilkes killer, John Wilkes
- 32:09Speaker 3: Boots killer.
- 32:10Speaker 2: Yeah. No, John Wilkes Booth was the killer. Yeah he
- 32:12Speaker 2: was the killer.
- 32:12Speaker 3: Yeah him and uh yeah him and like some weird
- 32:17Speaker 3: story where like there's some weird shit about this guy. Uh, technically,
- 32:20Speaker 3: I don't think they have actually caught him in his
- 32:22Speaker 3: bullshit story, Like the story about everything is very shady,
- 32:25Speaker 3: and I think he has other connections that Prometheus is
- 32:28Speaker 3: going to talk about. It should be pretty, pretty fun,
- 32:31Speaker 3: pretty interesting.
- 32:32Speaker 1: It's always very conspiracy.
- 32:33Speaker 2: It's always I had no idea.
- 32:36Speaker 1: You guys joined us to get next time. Yeah, no,
- 32:38Speaker 1: it's crazy. The further you dig, the more conspiracies you see.
- 32:41Speaker 1: So we'll see it again next time later