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Chuck in the Morning 8-17 hour 4: More with Hugh, Staying Alive and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Nine o'clock hour here on this Monday, our first football
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Speaker 1: game has been watched, it is being evaluated, and we're
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Speaker 1: breaking it down for you here this morning, or have
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Speaker 1: been breaking it down for you here this morning during
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Speaker 1: the regular season.
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Speaker 2: Monday Morning Quarterback two.
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Speaker 1: Hours of Hugh Millon after every Seahawks game from eight
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Speaker 1: to ten. We were just going to do an hour
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Speaker 1: today since it was a preseason game. But I'm sure
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Speaker 1: he's got a few extra thoughts, few leftovers that he'd like.
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Speaker 2: Them all over.
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Speaker 1: But primarily I wanted to do another segment because we
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Speaker 1: have Devin Witherspoon and Terry and Arnold contracts to react to,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure everybody listening once he was thoughts on
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Speaker 1: these two topics, and so we continue with our QB
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Speaker 1: one here on this first Monday Morning Quarterback session of
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Speaker 1: the year here on.
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r F M
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Speaker 2: all right, Hugh, Well, let's talk about Spoon.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the big deal first four years, one
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two million dollar extension and so highest
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Speaker 1: paid cornerback in the National Football League.
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Speaker 2: You all right with that?
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Speaker 3: I absolutely, I absolutely love this guy. I think it's
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Speaker 3: clear He's Mica Doald's favorite player for good reason. I
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Speaker 3: think his love of the game is infectious. I think
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Speaker 3: for a team, you know, if you compare it to
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Speaker 3: the Legion of Boom, I don't think it has the
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Speaker 3: kind of the innate swag. And I don't say that
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Speaker 3: as a you know, plus or a minus. I just
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Speaker 3: think it's an observation. And I think that Witherspoon brings
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Speaker 3: the swag, and so there's a there's a elite bringing
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Speaker 3: competitor in him. So I think you're paying for his mentality. Uh,
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Speaker 3: you know what he brings to the team in terms
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Speaker 3: of of kind of the emotional straw that serves that
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Speaker 3: drink in my opinion. And then when you consider his
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Speaker 3: versatility plays he plays outside in their base defense, what's
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Speaker 3: nickel because of emon worry. But then when when they
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Speaker 3: play dime he comes in. He can play the slot.
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Speaker 3: They put him generally to the field the widest side.
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Speaker 3: And you know, you have to really lock into this
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Speaker 3: concept about the seat defense when you play as much
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Speaker 3: too high defense with both safeties deep and away from
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. In a general rule in sports,
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Speaker 3: space is the friend of an offense and the enemy
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Speaker 3: of the defense, right, I mean, whether it's basketball or soccer,
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Speaker 3: what have you. I mean, imagine soccer if there was
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Speaker 3: you know, twenty five players, you know they had all
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Speaker 3: bottled up. Uh. If there's six players, it would be
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Speaker 3: wide open. Same thing with football. I mean imagine if
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Speaker 3: defense to play with you know, twenty five guys, everybody
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Speaker 3: would have a friend near them to help. Now imagine football.
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Speaker 3: Now they have eight man football in high school. Watch it.
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Speaker 3: The scores are like sixty three sixty one because there's
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Speaker 3: there's more space for everybody to cover. So back to
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Speaker 3: McDonald and his defense, those two high structures that he played.
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Speaker 3: When you put Witherspoon to the field. In the flat,
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Speaker 3: there's only three guys underneath on some of those those coverages.
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Speaker 3: And to his side, he's got the flat and and
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Speaker 3: so he's got to cover so much ground that that
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Speaker 3: that he and and without help he essentially has to
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Speaker 3: match to the flat play man the man and and
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Speaker 3: and so the ability for him to play inside out,
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Speaker 3: because you've got to defend the inside pass first to
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Speaker 3: the flat is is really paramount to what they do.
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Speaker 3: And and finally, I'll just say the if you go
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Speaker 3: to the most important play in the entire year. Fourth
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Speaker 3: and four uh in the NFC Championship game at the
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Speaker 3: six yard line, and everyone's talking about how H. D
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Speaker 3: Low backed off and covered the running back. Well, Matthew
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Speaker 3: Stafford then comes back inside and you got Witherspoon. He's
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Speaker 3: covering Terrence Ferguson on a double move with no help
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Speaker 3: to the safety, and he just plays it perfectly. He
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Speaker 3: doesn't bite too much on the out route. He's in
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Speaker 3: a position to undercut the seam again with no safety help,
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Speaker 3: and he gets an official pass breakup to stop the
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Speaker 3: possession on fourth and four with under five minutes ago
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Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship game. So he's a clutch player.
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Speaker 3: He's a versatile player. He's an emotional player. He's a
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Speaker 3: skilled player. He's a physical player as much as he
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Speaker 3: can be with his size. I think he checks every
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Speaker 3: single box. And that's why he's getting paid like this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, happy to have him back here. So go
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Speaker 1: ahead and feel comfortable out there getting your number twenty
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Speaker 1: one jersey because he's going to be here for the
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Speaker 1: next five seasons minimum.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Terry and Arnold.
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Speaker 1: I was on with a couple guys David Softy Maler
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Speaker 1: and Dick Fane on Friday. They couldn't believe that you
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Speaker 1: and I would question that the Seahawks should or shouldn't
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Speaker 1: have interest in Terry and Arnold. They were just married
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Speaker 1: to the idea. But I know what your thoughts were
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Speaker 1: last week. You shared them with us here on the show.
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Speaker 1: So now that the deal looks like it's done, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we still got some other details to get him on
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Speaker 1: the football field. I don't know when that's going to happen,
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Speaker 1: but they've certainly committed to him to a degree. And
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Speaker 1: so now that Terry and Arnold looks like he is
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Speaker 1: a Sea Hawk, what is Hugh Millan feel about that
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Speaker 1: here on a Monday morning.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think there can be a very good argument
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Speaker 3: for bringing them on. We could, we could highlight those points.
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Speaker 3: You know them, I know them. You know that it's
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Speaker 3: a it's a it's a player with first round caliber
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Speaker 3: talent and the position of relative need of shallow depth
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Speaker 3: for the Seahawks. You know, you're not paying him anything.
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Speaker 3: You can cut him at any time if you don't
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Speaker 3: like what you see. They have all kinds of outs.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a number of good reasons to sign him.
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Speaker 3: But you and if you ask me on a scale
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Speaker 3: of zero to ten, one to ten whatever, uh ten
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Speaker 3: being the most enthusiastic and zero being the least, I
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Speaker 3: would say five. And then you say, well, wait a minute.
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Speaker 3: Five is not good for radio, because that's that's planning
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Speaker 3: yourself right on the fence. You can't you can't be
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Speaker 3: a five. I'd say, well, then I'm a four? And
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Speaker 3: why am Why am I a four? Just one man's opinion.
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Speaker 3: I think that a couple of things. I'm I'm I
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Speaker 3: think about the message that Mike McDonald tries to send
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Speaker 3: to the team, that about the wars in the garden
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Speaker 3: and what have you, just being you know, the the
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Speaker 3: culture of of who they see themselves as and and
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Speaker 3: the type of players that they are. I'm trying to
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Speaker 3: get now, this guy might have elite football character and
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Speaker 3: have had one, you know, just egregious misstep with the law,
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Speaker 3: uh and a and a complete moral failing. And we'll
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Speaker 3: sort all that out. But I think I also, you know,
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Speaker 3: I threw four hours of tape on and watched every
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Speaker 3: single pass against the Lion defense, and I just I
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Speaker 3: didn't see an elite player. I see an elite athlete,
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Speaker 3: but I see technique issues with his you know, in
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Speaker 3: the breakpoint, is his feek it wide? I think he
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Speaker 3: grabs a little. I think that in zone coverage he
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Speaker 3: plays too conservative. So I think that when he if
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Speaker 3: I threw on the tape and just go, oh my god,
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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm watching Dion Sanders, then maybe that
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Speaker 3: would push me off of the five to a six.
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Speaker 3: But I'm pushed to a four because I think that
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Speaker 3: there's going to be some coaching that that still needs
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Speaker 3: to go on with his technique at the break point
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Speaker 3: and what have you. And so I don't I don't
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Speaker 3: think he's already made product where you just in and
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Speaker 3: you say, yeah, that's the guy you put on Puka
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Speaker 3: and Nakua and don't worry about it. You know, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that right. I mean, you know, a
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Speaker 3: couple two stats to underscore that point. I think we
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Speaker 3: talked about yards per covered snap out one hundred nine
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Speaker 3: qualifying cornerbacks. He was at one point seven tied for
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Speaker 3: the last tied for worst covered snaps per target. What
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Speaker 3: would that indicate? That would mean are quarterbacks fearful of
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Speaker 3: going at him? Or offensive coordinators, play callers. Well, he
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Speaker 3: had four point seven covered snaps per target. So the
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Speaker 3: most if you said, okay, Deon Sanders would have something,
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Speaker 3: you know, like thirty covered snaps per target. What So
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Speaker 3: the fewer you have, the more teams are throwing a
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Speaker 3: well he's four point seven.
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Speaker 1: Well that was one.
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Speaker 3: Hundred and seventh out of one hundred and nine. So
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Speaker 3: there's other quarterbacks who are looking at it and thinking
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Speaker 3: just like me, right, and and that can be proven
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Speaker 3: right there in that stat So I would say, uh
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Speaker 3: that that I just expected a little bit more of
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Speaker 3: him as a football player when I threw on the tape.
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Speaker 3: And then I asked, man, is it worth the distraction
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Speaker 3: everybody there's such a good, good mojo? Is it worth
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Speaker 3: the distraction where everybody's you know, all the cameras are
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Speaker 3: around him after practice. Instead of interviewing Leonard Williams about
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Speaker 3: what what you know, what a great you know player
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Speaker 3: he is, and what a great human meaning he is,
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Speaker 3: we're getting interviewed here. It's just it seems like an
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Speaker 3: unnecessary you know, wrenching the juju for what you're getting
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Speaker 3: out of it. But again, I'm not I am not
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Speaker 3: staunchly against it. I mean, you know, you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: as you know, I'll take a stand on an opinion,
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Speaker 3: but I'm relatively on the fence of this. But I
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Speaker 3: just it just it just doesn't seem like that. Is
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Speaker 3: that a fair? Is that about where you were at?
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Speaker 1: I know, I'm pretty much I'm pretty much exactly where
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Speaker 1: you are on it. I mean to me, like, like, look,
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Speaker 1: one guy's not going to come in here and ruin
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's culture.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's not the statement. The culture is so strong.
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Speaker 1: If if at any moment he doesn't fit, you're right,
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Speaker 1: you can easily cut him.
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Speaker 2: But I just don't know. I mean, you've built this.
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Speaker 1: Empire one way, and I don't think you built it
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Speaker 1: around guys like Terry and Arnold.
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Speaker 2: And if you're right, if this.
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Speaker 1: Was some special player, just because he got first round pick,
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they didn't miss on that. When I saw
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions games play, he made a lot of highlights,
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't for good reasons. Uh, you know, the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, I'm not sure he's as good
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Speaker 1: a player as what people who are excited about this
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Speaker 1: tend to think that he is just because he has
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Speaker 1: that first round draft pick status attack to his name,
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Speaker 1: and so I just don't understand if I don't know
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Speaker 1: if the you know, the juice is worth the squeeze,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the risk is is worth the
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Speaker 1: reward that you're going to get for this player. But
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Speaker 1: you know what, they liked him coming out of the draft,
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Speaker 1: both of them, both Mike and John. So they see
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Speaker 1: something and maybe they get more out of him than
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Speaker 1: what Dan Campbell and the Detroit Lions could. So I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to stand on some giant moral high.
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Speaker 2: Ground on this.
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Speaker 1: It just to me there's a reason why the Lions
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Speaker 1: cut bait and ran as quickly as they did away
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Speaker 1: from this story. And if he was a good player,
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Speaker 1: I think that they would have waited a little while
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Speaker 1: longer and let the process play out before they made
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Speaker 1: their decision. It was the next morning, Hugh, like the
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Speaker 1: newspaper reports came out, and the next morning the Lions
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Speaker 1: all right, stories out, we're done with it, and they
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Speaker 1: moved on from him. And that's an organization that could
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Speaker 1: use secondary help more so than maybe anybody in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League. So I'm kind of with you on this.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna break the Seahawks in any way,
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Speaker 1: shape or form. And I get maybe rolling the dice
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Speaker 1: on somebody that you liked a couple of years ago
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Speaker 1: who's still very young and you feel like you can
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Speaker 1: get the most out of him. But yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: that I got a really great thing going here, and
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure Terry and Arnold helps that all that much.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a fair incident inference about the line
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Speaker 3: of thinking of the Lions. I mean, there could be
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Speaker 3: other elements involved in there, but you know, there was
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Speaker 3: there was something that kind of just struck me on
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Speaker 3: the on the Hard Knocks here, Mike McDonald's addressing the
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Speaker 3: team and I use the term warriors in the Garden,
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Speaker 3: and some people, if they didn't see Hard Knocks, are
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Speaker 3: going what is he talking about? That? That is a
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's reference where he now, he may have known
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Speaker 3: that Leonard Williams, you know, likes the Garden because that
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Speaker 3: got revealed in the show, and so he may have
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Speaker 3: already known that this was going to land pretty well
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Speaker 3: by using that term. But he says warriors in the Guardians.
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Speaker 3: What does that mean? He says, Hey, well, we'll drop
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Speaker 3: We're ready to drop and compete and go to war
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Speaker 3: with you at any time. But we're good human beings.
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Speaker 3: We're good fathers, we're good citizens, we're good husbands. You know,
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Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing at this point, but that's the gist of it.
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Speaker 3: And so he's trying to appeal to his team like, hey,
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Speaker 3: this is who you are. I'm showing you of me.
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Speaker 3: I'm holding up the mirror to tell you who you
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Speaker 3: who who you are. You are great freaking violent warriors
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Speaker 3: who are outstanding citizens. That's what he's trying to tell
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Speaker 3: his team. That's not me theorizing.
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Speaker 2: That's hard knock.
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Speaker 3: That's HBO showing you it. You don't even have to
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Speaker 3: hear the audio. You can see hear the audio and
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Speaker 3: see the video. And so do I want one Seawk
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Speaker 3: in his mind just kind of rolling his eyes going yeah,
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Speaker 3: all right, coach, you know, you know, because you know,
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Speaker 3: really really, you know, spare me. You know, I don't
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Speaker 3: want any of that thought coming into one Seaak's mind, right,
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Speaker 3: not unless he's de one freaking Sanders, you know, like
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Speaker 3: like when I say, okay, let's let's kind of way
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Speaker 3: to hang out, uh, as Jimmy Johnson did in Front
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Speaker 3: of the in the Cowboy team meeting room when he said,
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to evaluate the backup left guard like
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Speaker 3: uh like compared to Troy Aikman, he said those words exactly.
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Speaker 3: He's basically saying we we we'll tolerate you based on
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Speaker 3: what you produce on the field. Is basically what he said,
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Speaker 3: you know, which was probably a He's explained why Michael
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Speaker 3: Irvan is a Cowboy, you know. But but any of
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Speaker 3: it I digress. So that's just kind of some of
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Speaker 3: my thoughts. I'm not, you know, one man's opinion as
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Speaker 3: a fan, as an analyst, I'm not outraged by it.
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Speaker 3: I just kind of you if you push yes or
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Speaker 3: no binary, do you do this? If you're making the call,
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Speaker 3: I would lean noo.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, same with me.
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Speaker 1: All right, a couple of minutes here, any last minute
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Speaker 1: items that do you want to clean up talk about
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Speaker 1: from Saturday? Anything else before we let you go till
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Speaker 1: the next time.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that the wide receivers group seems a
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Speaker 3: little thin to me. I mentioned a royal. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I just feel like the target. I don't know the
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Speaker 3: guys who were touching the ball on Saturday night. I
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Speaker 3: wasn't impressed. I feel like they know pretty.
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Speaker 1: Much just Bobo and Foster. I mean, they got twelve
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Speaker 1: targets on the night. I don't know if they were
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Speaker 1: the only guys getting open or if Milroe and Locke
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Speaker 1: were just locked in on those two. But it fell
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Speaker 1: like every drop back was either to Bobo or to Foster.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was there there was times where other
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Speaker 3: guys were missed. I think I think you saw uh
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Speaker 3: from the quarterbacks, their preferences and and but as I
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Speaker 3: look at the tape, I'm gonna wait, man, Like there
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Speaker 3: was Drew Locke had an out route that that he
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Speaker 3: had done in the red zone where he threw uh.
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Speaker 3: He threw the ball to Foster and he got like
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Speaker 3: five or six yards. But the but pre snap, you
17:26
Speaker 3: could see that there was a window that was going
17:29
Speaker 3: to open up on a concept I call fossil, which
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Speaker 3: is fade on the inside and slant on the on
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Speaker 3: the outside. So fossil, uh is is is the word
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Speaker 3: conjunction of those two that Seahawks had Brown Fox fossil?
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Speaker 3: Why brown because the second letters are black is the
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Speaker 3: second letters l So brown to the right, Brown fossil
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Speaker 3: was coming wide open. And they and if I'm coaching
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Speaker 3: Drew Locke, I'm like, dude, you got a touchdown here,
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Speaker 3: stay with the fossil so so and I give one
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Speaker 3: example because we're short of time. I could give other examples,
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Speaker 3: but that that was an issue. I think left guard
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Speaker 3: there was there was a guy, Mason Richmond that made
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Speaker 3: an impression on me. You know, looking at him, I'm like, whoa,
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Speaker 3: that's a tall guard. And I didn't even look up
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Speaker 3: his his height, but I see now he's six foot five,
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Speaker 3: so he just looks kind of have like a tackle frame.
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Speaker 3: He he was very inconsistent. His bad plays were not good,
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Speaker 3: but his good plays showed a ceiling that you don't
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Speaker 3: normally see in a preseason game with all backups and
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Speaker 3: guys are going to get cut. So I think that
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Speaker 3: I think that Mason Richmond is going to get my attention,
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Speaker 3: you know, to the extent like you're probably thinking, really,
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Speaker 3: is that where we're at we're talking about left backup
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Speaker 3: left guards?
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Speaker 1: Well, they're not as important as I know that good recall.
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Speaker 3: So any man, I'm just kind of randomizing, you know,
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Speaker 3: some of my observations there.
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Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, awesome stuff, Thank you, sir, we
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Speaker 1: appreciate it won't be long now before we're doing it
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Speaker 1: for real.
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Speaker 2: So good stuff here today, all right.
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Speaker 3: Two more of this just rehearsal then we'll get out
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Speaker 3: of it, all right. Thanks you suck.
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Speaker 1: There's our QB one you mellan a little Monday morning
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Speaker 1: Mariners did, stay alive. They are still standing after all
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Speaker 1: this time.
20:52
Speaker 2: I did pose when.
20:54
Speaker 1: You weren't here on Friday as this sweeper die to
20:57
Speaker 1: uh anders Hurst and I don't think that he and
21:01
Speaker 1: this is rare for him to not go to the extreme, Yeah,
21:05
Speaker 1: because he's pretty much an extreme guy.
21:07
Speaker 2: I think it's the youngness in him.
21:10
Speaker 1: And yet, the difference between a sweep and then just
21:14
Speaker 1: taking two out of three, I mean, that's a successful
21:18
Speaker 1: trip to Houston to take two out of three, but
21:21
Speaker 1: to be two back versus four back, I mean that's
21:23
Speaker 1: a that feels like a pretty major difference right now.
21:27
Speaker 1: And yet they didn't achieve that. They came very close
21:30
Speaker 1: at least, I mean sliding doors. I have no idea
21:32
Speaker 1: how winning Friday might have impacted the way they played
21:35
Speaker 1: Saturday and then Sunday.
21:38
Speaker 2: But I'll say this.
21:40
Speaker 1: The way they played this weekend, even Friday night. So
21:44
Speaker 1: now you know, I don't say this just after wins.
21:48
Speaker 1: I thought them battling back from five to two down.
21:51
Speaker 1: I thought them being with their backs against the walls
21:54
Speaker 1: and showing fight. Now granted it came from Roeblaze and
21:57
Speaker 1: Rowden for goodness sake.
21:59
Speaker 5: Got to come somewhere, but to battle back.
22:01
Speaker 1: And then in the tenth score two runs and put
22:04
Speaker 1: all that pressure. Andre's Munoz did not pitch that badly
22:07
Speaker 1: on Friday night. It's baseball. I mean, sometimes the ball
22:11
Speaker 1: finds the hole. Sometimes you throw a good pitch and
22:14
Speaker 1: somebody gets a bat on it and it slips through
22:17
Speaker 1: the infield. I mean, yeah, the Christian Walker was a
22:20
Speaker 1: bomb and that was a mistake, but he should have
22:23
Speaker 1: been out of that inning before that. So I liked
22:27
Speaker 1: the way that they fought on Friday, even though it
22:30
Speaker 1: wasn't a perfect game. And then I think they carried
22:33
Speaker 1: that over into Saturday, and I think they carried that
22:36
Speaker 1: over into Sunday. So to me, even though you didn't
22:41
Speaker 1: get your sweep, I don't think they died.
22:44
Speaker 2: I don't think they died this weekend.
22:45
Speaker 1: If anything, I think they showed the most life they've
22:48
Speaker 1: shown in quite some.
22:48
Speaker 4: Time, Ashley, and I think that was the biggest thing,
22:51
Speaker 4: is to go into that game on Friday and battle
22:53
Speaker 4: back the way they did. I mean, if Dan at
22:56
Speaker 4: the end of that one would have said, it is
22:57
Speaker 4: a tough one tonight. Yeah, that was a tough one
22:59
Speaker 4: to night. But because they they did, dang it, fight
23:04
Speaker 4: till the end. But that could have gone one of
23:07
Speaker 4: two ways.
23:08
Speaker 5: The next day.
23:08
Speaker 4: I mean you could have been like, oh, we just
23:11
Speaker 4: can't get any like nothing falling in our favor, and
23:14
Speaker 4: you could feel defeated going into Saturday. And so to
23:16
Speaker 4: see what we saw out of them on Saturday and
23:18
Speaker 4: Sunday after that tough loss, especially after that tough loss
23:21
Speaker 4: on Friday, I think was the most promising part. And
23:26
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have said sweep or die, but I would
23:28
Speaker 4: have said win or die, because if you don't win
23:31
Speaker 4: that series.
23:32
Speaker 5: That's a big Yeah, that's a big problem.
23:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, crazy things happen, Like if they rattle
23:38
Speaker 1: off of seventeen game winning streak, then they're gonna win
23:42
Speaker 1: the division, right, And we've seen teams do that. We
23:46
Speaker 1: saw the Oakland A's run twenty in a row. They
23:49
Speaker 1: made a movie about it. Uh, for goodness sake. I mean,
23:52
Speaker 1: this team itself has gone on crazy runs in the
23:55
Speaker 1: last five years, just when you thought that they were dead.
23:58
Speaker 1: So if they even if they would have gotten swept,
24:01
Speaker 1: if they win thirty games in a row, they're going
24:03
Speaker 1: to win the division. Like a crazy winning streak can
24:07
Speaker 1: mute all conversations. But where was that good baseball.
24:14
Speaker 2: Going to come from?
24:15
Speaker 1: They didn't do everything well Friday night, obviously, but I
24:18
Speaker 1: thought that that was the most fight we've seen from
24:21
Speaker 1: the offense in a while for three straight games, And
24:25
Speaker 1: it does kind of give you the indication that, Okay,
24:28
Speaker 1: we're not going to predict fifteen wins in a row,
24:31
Speaker 1: but are you in a position to win more than
24:34
Speaker 1: you lose during this gauntlet stretch which is upcoming? And
24:38
Speaker 1: then does that put you in a position can you
24:40
Speaker 1: be within two or three games on September third, where
24:43
Speaker 1: the schedule gets really really light, and in that instance,
24:49
Speaker 1: you're very much viable. You are entirely alive at that point.
24:54
Speaker 1: So they didn't sweep, they didn't die, yep, and they
24:59
Speaker 1: showed some and they showed some scrap and they showed
25:02
Speaker 1: some fight, and I'm gonna give Brendan Donovan some credit
25:05
Speaker 1: for that.
25:05
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give Brock Rotten some.
25:08
Speaker 1: Credit for that, and I'm gonna give Victor Roblace some
25:11
Speaker 1: credit for that, because I think those three guys spark
25:14
Speaker 1: them Friday night in a loss for goodness sake.
25:17
Speaker 4: They did, And it just goes to show you too,
25:19
Speaker 4: that this team does have more firepower than we're giving,
25:23
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of the lineup credit for it,
25:24
Speaker 4: because you're you've got all it's there.
25:26
Speaker 2: It just has been dormant on that right long.
25:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
25:29
Speaker 4: But I mean that should give fans some hope, some
25:31
Speaker 4: optimism looking at that and seeing, Okay, it doesn't have
25:34
Speaker 4: to come from Cal and Josh and Julio.
25:37
Speaker 5: It would be.
25:38
Speaker 4: Nice if it did, but as long as someone else
25:41
Speaker 4: is stepping up to come in and help out on
25:44
Speaker 4: those days where all three of them don't have it
25:47
Speaker 4: or where it's not I mean, Naylor's been playing I
25:49
Speaker 4: think a lot better and getting on base a lot.
25:51
Speaker 2: You've been real good lately, yeah, really good.
25:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, So for him to have some help if it's
25:56
Speaker 4: not coming from Cal that night, or it's not coming
25:58
Speaker 4: from Julio that night. I mean, and he's got Randy,
26:01
Speaker 4: and Randy's still playing really consistently on offense. So I
26:05
Speaker 4: do think this team has enough and if these little,
26:07
Speaker 4: if these extra guys, these other smaller bit players in
26:13
Speaker 4: your lineup offensively can step up and do things like.
26:16
Speaker 5: Brock Rowden rock Rowden and Victor.
26:19
Speaker 4: Ilblaz who shouldn't be in an extra smaller part of
26:22
Speaker 4: your lineup. He should be in your lineup playing more consistently,
26:25
Speaker 4: I think. I mean what we saw from him last
26:27
Speaker 4: year too, So I just it gives you hope that Okay,
26:31
Speaker 4: if Cal can't find it, or he can only find
26:34
Speaker 4: it once every four games, I mean, he found he
26:36
Speaker 4: had the home run yesterday that was very needed. So
26:39
Speaker 4: if he can only find it at once every four
26:40
Speaker 4: games and the consistency's just not there for him this year, okay,
26:44
Speaker 4: where's it coming from?
26:45
Speaker 5: And I think we got some good answers over the weekend.
26:47
Speaker 2: Well, I think he.
26:48
Speaker 1: Is showing a little bit of life from the right
26:51
Speaker 1: side of the plate. It's the left side of the
26:53
Speaker 1: plate he's just lost on. He had one of the
26:55
Speaker 1: worst at bats of the season against Hunter Brown.
26:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, yesterday, Yeah, I mean just three.
27:01
Speaker 1: They're not even they're not even trying to throw high
27:04
Speaker 1: fat They're just like, we're gonna throw it right down
27:06
Speaker 1: the middle of the plate.
27:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're and he's he's yes, timing is too.
27:12
Speaker 1: He's just he's taking the pitches that he should swing
27:15
Speaker 1: at and swinging at the pitches that he shouldn't. It
27:17
Speaker 1: is just the opposite of where you want to be,
27:20
Speaker 1: and he can't figure it out. I did like his
27:22
Speaker 1: answer though, when they did, because they went to him
27:25
Speaker 1: to interview him on the national broadcast last night, and
27:28
Speaker 1: his answer was, you know what, I don't I don't
27:31
Speaker 1: care about my numbers. I don't care about myself right now.
27:35
Speaker 1: This is all about what does this team need for
27:38
Speaker 1: us to get where we want to go.
27:40
Speaker 2: And that's the right answer, Yeah, to take.
27:42
Speaker 1: But obviously if we get you playing well, that's going
27:46
Speaker 1: to help the team.
27:48
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I was gonna say, if
27:50
Speaker 4: he doesn't focus on that, perhaps he's better able to
27:53
Speaker 4: help the team.
27:54
Speaker 5: Versus how am I gonna get right?
27:56
Speaker 3: Man?
27:57
Speaker 1: I should point this out because it happened over the
28:00
Speaker 1: week in Bob Nightingale wrote an article about contending managers
28:05
Speaker 1: who might have to make it to the playoffs in
28:09
Speaker 1: order to keep their jobs. Don Mattingly was one of them.
28:12
Speaker 1: He's somebody that already saved them once and now in
28:15
Speaker 1: Philadelphia they think that maybe he is just going to
28:19
Speaker 1: be an interim manager there. According to John excuse me
28:23
Speaker 1: to Bob Nightingale, that Alex core is like already locked
28:26
Speaker 1: in for next season as the manager of the Philadelphia Phillies.
28:30
Speaker 1: There were a couple of other names that he mentioned
28:33
Speaker 1: as well that might have to make the playoffs in
28:35
Speaker 1: order to keep their jobs. And here in Seattle, according
28:39
Speaker 1: to Nightingale, in the American League, Seattle Mariners manager Dan
28:43
Speaker 1: Wilson is expected to be fired if the Mariners missed
28:46
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and the same goes for Astro's manager Joe Espada.
28:50
Speaker 1: So that's that kind of flies in the face of
28:55
Speaker 1: what we've heard. I mean, we've all speculated about it,
28:59
Speaker 1: but it looks like Dan's going to be given the
29:02
Speaker 1: opportunity to win with this team, kind of put together
29:06
Speaker 1: a late season run here and try to squeeze into
29:09
Speaker 1: the playoffs in a year where right now they should
29:12
Speaker 1: have no business still having a shot at a playoff spot.
29:15
Speaker 1: But because the American League right now has a team
29:19
Speaker 1: in the playoffs that's two games under five hundred if
29:22
Speaker 1: the season ended today, because we keep talking about the
29:25
Speaker 1: four games, they're only two and a half back in
29:27
Speaker 1: the wild card for goodness sake. So you do have
29:31
Speaker 1: a chance, despite how poorly the team has played this year,
29:35
Speaker 1: to still get into the playoffs, and it might be
29:37
Speaker 1: the only thing that keeps Dan Wilson the manager of
29:40
Speaker 1: the team going into next year. So August twenty second,
29:44
Speaker 1: remember that's when Jerry fired Scott Servis and you almost
29:49
Speaker 1: rallied and made it into the playoffs under Dan Wilson
29:53
Speaker 1: with a new voice. So I think they've had opportunities
29:56
Speaker 1: to make this move, but it really feels like they're
29:59
Speaker 1: not going. It's going to be Dan's baby to the
30:02
Speaker 1: end of the year, and if he can't get it done,
30:05
Speaker 1: then we might have a different story in the off season.
30:07
Speaker 4: And I think that's what I would have expected. I
30:09
Speaker 4: would be shocked if they had come up and decided nope.
30:13
Speaker 4: Well maybe not shocked if they got swept in Houston,
30:15
Speaker 4: maybe I would expect something like that. But I still think, yeah,
30:18
Speaker 4: they're gonna let him go throughout the year because he
30:20
Speaker 4: is a Mariner's legend and they do respect him, and
30:22
Speaker 4: they do probably want him to stay somehow a part
30:25
Speaker 4: of the organization. So to go through the end of
30:27
Speaker 4: the year and see how it goes and then make
30:29
Speaker 4: your decision.
30:30
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised.
30:31
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:31
Speaker 1: Well, and the common theme is everyone in the organization
30:35
Speaker 1: loves him. Yeah, okay, great, then let him host bake
30:39
Speaker 1: sales and let him be around all the time. I
30:43
Speaker 1: need him to be I need him to get the
30:45
Speaker 1: most out of the talent. He's right, that's what I
30:47
Speaker 1: need out of a manager. I don't need a nice guy.
30:49
Speaker 1: I don't need somebody that everybody in the organization loves.
30:53
Speaker 2: I don't need everybody. I don't need a friend.
30:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need somebody that on a daily basis gets
31:00
Speaker 1: a team to play its best, and not every day,
31:04
Speaker 1: but more often than not. And this team hasn't played
31:07
Speaker 1: its best yet.
31:08
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:09
Speaker 5: My coach, my college coach said.
31:11
Speaker 2: Even this weekend was not their best.
31:13
Speaker 4: No, no, no, my college coach said to us. He
31:16
Speaker 4: called me to the office one day and said, do
31:17
Speaker 4: you think I'm a good coach? And I said, oh
31:18
Speaker 4: my god, I don't know how I'm supposed to answer this.
31:20
Speaker 4: I'm terrifying. What's the right ran? And he said, my
31:23
Speaker 4: goal is for you girls, who are all coming from
31:25
Speaker 4: different backgrounds and wherever you are, to get along with
31:28
Speaker 4: each other. And I don't care if you don't like me,
31:30
Speaker 4: And if you go into the locker room and your
31:32
Speaker 4: complaints are about me and not each other, then.
31:34
Speaker 5: I'm doing something right.
31:35
Speaker 2: Oh interesting?
31:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, plays throw a lot about him.
31:38
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, did you complain a lot about him?
31:40
Speaker 3: Yeah?
31:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well he should have wore pants.
31:42
Speaker 4: Moral oh yeah, and he should have probably not got
31:46
Speaker 4: people into taking money to get people into USC and
31:49
Speaker 4: they play water polo.
31:50
Speaker 2: Oh there, you know that's another thing.
31:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, one last thing to close the sound
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Speaker 1: next Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A r
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Speaker 1: F M.
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Speaker 2: FIE Finyl segment of the show.
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Speaker 1: We've got time for one last thing, and this really
32:07
Speaker 1: will be Ashley's one last thing for a while.
32:11
Speaker 2: How long are you going?
32:12
Speaker 3: I leave?
32:13
Speaker 4: Well, I take tomorrow off and I'm back Thursday, the
32:16
Speaker 4: twenty seventh, nine, full day.
32:19
Speaker 2: Full days of just Hoi and Pineapple. That's right.
32:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, we won't be in Hawaii that whole time, but
32:25
Speaker 4: I took the front in the back end off just
32:27
Speaker 4: to get home and get ready to go and get.
32:30
Speaker 5: Home and be home.
32:32
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, because.
32:33
Speaker 4: Last last time we went to Hawaii or flight landed
32:35
Speaker 4: at midnight or right before yeah, and I had to
32:38
Speaker 4: be back here.
32:39
Speaker 5: It's not a really relaxing way to end the vacation.
32:41
Speaker 2: It's smart.
32:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, surtising that that's not that relaxing.
32:44
Speaker 3: I know.
32:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, good work on your part. Whole family's excited about this.
32:48
Speaker 5: The whole family's excited. The friends were going with they
32:51
Speaker 5: left today.
32:52
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's people that were texting in saying, well,
32:54
Speaker 4: you know there's a hurricane in Hawaii right now. Well,
32:56
Speaker 4: there was a hurricane that went very close to the
32:59
Speaker 4: Big Island over the weekend. It dropped a lot of
33:01
Speaker 4: rain on the islands. But everything seems to be okay
33:04
Speaker 4: right now. We'll see how it goes with other storms
33:07
Speaker 4: that might potentially happen.
33:08
Speaker 5: But I won't be working, so I don't care.
33:10
Speaker 2: We have a great time.
33:12
Speaker 5: Thank you.
33:13
Speaker 2: Relax and joy that's the main thing.
33:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to do that.
33:16
Speaker 2: Don't hustle and bustle, don't feel like you got to
33:18
Speaker 2: beat places.
33:19
Speaker 5: I'm not going to definitely not going to feel like that.
33:21
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:21
Speaker 4: No hustling, no bustling, no being anywhere, yeah except a
33:24
Speaker 4: pool or a beach.
33:25
Speaker 2: Yeah. As long as you take that approach, you'll have
33:28
Speaker 2: a wonderful time.
33:29
Speaker 5: I hope.
33:30
Speaker 2: So all right, well what's your one last thing?
33:32
Speaker 3: Then?
33:33
Speaker 5: Well, you know I do love it.
33:35
Speaker 4: So Palmer the Great really likes coming into work with
33:37
Speaker 4: me every like, you know, at least once a summer,
33:40
Speaker 4: some usually one during winter break.
33:42
Speaker 5: She always wants to come in.
33:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, And last night she asked again, can I come
33:46
Speaker 4: in with you? I said, I just think you're going
33:48
Speaker 4: to be too tired. Are you sure you want to go?
33:51
Speaker 2: Yes?
33:51
Speaker 4: Mom, I really want to go, please, I said, okay,
33:54
Speaker 4: I'll wake you up. So I woke her up this morning.
33:56
Speaker 4: She got dressed, brushed her teeth, all that.
33:59
Speaker 5: I go to find her to leave.
34:00
Speaker 4: She's already asleep in my bed and I was like,
34:02
Speaker 4: should I not bring her because I mean, she's been
34:05
Speaker 4: up for ten minutes and she's already asleep, So I
34:07
Speaker 4: wake her up. She's up the whole car ride. She's
34:10
Speaker 4: hanging out here reading or not reading, looking at her phone.
34:15
Speaker 4: She goes to lay down to look at her phone.
34:16
Speaker 4: She's been asleep down there for two and a half
34:18
Speaker 4: hours under my desk, sound asleep.
34:20
Speaker 5: I have been recording.
34:21
Speaker 4: Spots in here, I have talked to Hughan here, I've
34:24
Speaker 4: been on the air with you.
34:26
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about her right now, and she's still
34:29
Speaker 1: still asleep.
34:30
Speaker 5: I nudged her a little bit just to.
34:31
Speaker 1: Think she was looking for airtime, and then I didn't
34:33
Speaker 1: give her any in the first segment. Otherwise that where
34:36
Speaker 1: I probably would have instilled some juice in her.
34:38
Speaker 5: No, I don't think you would have. I think nothing.
34:40
Speaker 5: I figured, like, well, she'll just want to say hi
34:42
Speaker 5: at the end of the show. I tried. I tried
34:45
Speaker 5: to wake her up before the last break.
34:46
Speaker 2: She's I was going to do one last thing. I
34:48
Speaker 2: would just see what paulm of the Great had to
34:50
Speaker 2: say before her vacation.
34:51
Speaker 5: But you want to wake up? Nope, out, I got
34:55
Speaker 5: to get her out of the studio.
34:59
Speaker 1: That would be real surprise if she wakes up and uh,
35:02
Speaker 1: there's andre's her standing over it.
35:04
Speaker 5: No, she just stirred. I thought she's getting up. Nope,
35:07
Speaker 5: she's just adjestine on her pillow.
35:10
Speaker 2: She's in need of a vacation.
35:12
Speaker 5: She is she is tired clearly.
35:16
Speaker 1: All right, well, Palmer the great next time, I guess.
35:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone told me not to overpack when I'm going
35:23
Speaker 4: to Hawaii.
35:23
Speaker 5: Thanks for the advice. I promise I'll be responsible.
35:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good advice, though.
35:29
Speaker 5: It is, but I am an packer always.
35:31
Speaker 2: I get see. But that's just it.
35:33
Speaker 1: That's why it's good advice, because I I trim it
35:36
Speaker 1: down every single time, even more so every single time.
35:39
Speaker 2: I like this.
35:40
Speaker 5: That's why.
35:41
Speaker 4: So I start big. But I've already started my list
35:43
Speaker 4: and everything I've gotten. As I'm getting older, I'm getting
35:45
Speaker 4: more responsible. So I got my list, I'll go pack,
35:47
Speaker 4: I'll put extra stuff there, and then I'll be like, Nope,
35:50
Speaker 4: don't need you, don't need you, don't need you.
35:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
35:52
Speaker 1: I want to get to the point where it's just
35:54
Speaker 1: like I have a toothbrush and the clothes on your back,
35:58
Speaker 1: the clothes on my back, and that's it.
36:01
Speaker 2: It's not even in like a plastic baggie. I'm just
36:03
Speaker 2: holding it in my hand, yes, the entire flight, and.
36:06
Speaker 4: Then your license in your other hand, right exactly.
36:10
Speaker 2: That's it.
36:11
Speaker 5: That's all I need.
36:13
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna close with this. Apparently
36:17
Speaker 1: Dion sanders son, Shiloh is in bankruptcy court. Oh and
36:22
Speaker 1: so Dion has been subpoenaed and he has to go
36:28
Speaker 1: to court as the on.
36:30
Speaker 2: Game week as they're getting ready for the game. So
36:33
Speaker 2: that's the story.
36:35
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, This is really strange because Dion
36:38
Speaker 1: Sanders says that the prime time persona that he created
36:42
Speaker 1: was a distraction. It was a character that he had
36:48
Speaker 1: to create, right, Dion. Whether you believe it or not,
36:52
Speaker 1: it's true. Everybody that played with Dion says he's like
36:57
Speaker 1: the greatest teammate they ever have or at least won them. Okay,
37:01
Speaker 1: hard worker, apparently, very thrifty, like.
37:07
Speaker 2: Cheap.
37:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though he had all the bleeing around that
37:10
Speaker 1: was part of the character.
37:11
Speaker 2: But the actual Dion Sanders he was not. Yeah. Yeah,
37:17
Speaker 2: he was just like I'm not paying for that. That's
37:20
Speaker 2: the type of guy he was. Is that crazy though?
37:22
Speaker 1: That like his sons seem to have missed out on
37:26
Speaker 1: that lesson from him.
37:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they were wanting to make sure everyone saw
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Speaker 4: their bling and all their stuff when they were in college,
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Speaker 4: that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: It's like they picked up on the character. They're like, Dad,
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Speaker 2: I want to be like your character. I don't want
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Speaker 2: to be want to be like you. You're boring.
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Speaker 1: But that's apparently, like why he attached himself to Travis Hunter,
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Speaker 1: because Hunter is a lot like Hunter. Apparently is the
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Speaker 1: cheapest guy in the world, Like he got his contract
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Speaker 1: and he bought a boat because he was forced into
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Speaker 1: getting some toy. Yeah, but other than picking the wrong
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Speaker 1: woman to marry, Apparently, Travis Hunter is a lot like Dion,
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Speaker 1: and like he's like, oh, I don't know if I
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Speaker 1: can afford that. That's the way. So that's why I
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Speaker 1: think Dion attached to Travis Hunter. Number One, he plays more.
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Speaker 2: Like his dad. Well yeah, and then I think he.
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Speaker 1: Acts more like his the real Dion Sanders and his
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Speaker 1: kids just grew up wanting to be primetime.
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Speaker 5: That weird.
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Speaker 4: That is weird, But it does make sense now that
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Speaker 4: you've said that, why he gravitated so hard towards Travis Hunter.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
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