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Men exist! Women most affected! | HBR Talk 398 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three ninety eight. Men exist,
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  Speaker 1: Women most affected here with Nonsense Annihilator Lauren Brooks, the
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  Speaker 1: personification of perceptivity, Mike Stevenson, Hello, Richard the Lionhearden, and
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  Speaker 1: uh the doge in charge. Even even just by existing, right,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to even so much as fart. You
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  Speaker 1: just just have to be, uh, just have to be
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  Speaker 1: really what you should hear me.
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  Speaker 2: On a bench reading a book.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. Uh, and apparently it's the government's job
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  Speaker 1: to do something about it. What we don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: uh something right, Uh, whatever it is, women will probably
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  Speaker 1: complain about it. In the meantime. We're going to read
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  Speaker 1: And with that we can actually get into the show
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  Speaker 1: material today. So last several shows we've been going over
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  Speaker 1: some various statements made by female journalists about the minisphere,
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  Speaker 1: or about in cells, or about whatever else they don't
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  Speaker 1: like about men. We then also discovered an article in
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  Speaker 1: which as much as these women hate men, they are
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  Speaker 1: blaming men for not wanting to have babies with women.
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  Speaker 1: And yet it's women who don't want to get married now,
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  Speaker 1: even though they complained about men going their own way.
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  Speaker 1: So just so you know, there's no right way to
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  Speaker 1: do things right. You can't go one direction and get
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  Speaker 1: yelled at for it and assume that the opposite direction
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  Speaker 1: is Okay, you're gonna get yelled at for that way too.
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  Speaker 1: That's just why.
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  Speaker 3: Like the third word in this headline is linked toxic
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  Speaker 3: manisphere linked to worrying rise in young vieple. Well, that's
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  Speaker 3: sort of in the lizard brain, suggests causation, but it's
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  Speaker 3: not even well, it is correlation insofar as it's linked
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  Speaker 3: somewhere in a chain between causes and effects. And it's
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  Speaker 3: sort of like saying toxic aspirin linked to worrying rise
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  Speaker 3: in headaches, and yes that there's a link there, Yes
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  Speaker 3: there is a link, But the thing is people are
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  Speaker 3: taking well aspirin because people are having more headaches. That's
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  Speaker 3: what's going on there.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Yep. It's almost like, you know, Bob goes to
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  Speaker 1: the grocery store to pick up a bunch of different
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  Speaker 1: things and a bottle of wine for dinner, but they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have that wine, but he knows they carry it
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  Speaker 1: at the liquor store, so he goes there picks it up.
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  Speaker 1: But while he's there, he runs into his old buddy
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, Oh, I know where you can get
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  Speaker 1: that at a better price. But he's not thinking about
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  Speaker 1: him drinking it at the at home. He's thinking of
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  Speaker 1: him drinking it on the premises. The next thing you know,
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  Speaker 1: Bob's at a bar, has several glasses of this one
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  Speaker 1: a car accident on the way home, and some dipshit,
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  Speaker 1: and some news outlet writes going to the grocery store
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  Speaker 1: linked to car accidents.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty much pretty much how we have a worrying
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  Speaker 1: rise and young people radicalized online. Of course they call
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  Speaker 1: everything radicalized now too. The other end of this is
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  Speaker 1: if you think that if something is a human right,
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  Speaker 1: that should include humans of all demographics, whether they're male
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  Speaker 1: or female, black or white, short or tall, big or small, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you're radical, you've been radicalized because human rights are only
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  Speaker 1: for people who have historical victimhood that they can claim.
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  Speaker 1: They used to be for everybody. They The term human
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  Speaker 1: rights used to mean the rights of all human beings,
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  Speaker 1: and the only exception is that obviously parents have to
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  Speaker 1: speak for their children because their children do not have
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  Speaker 1: the competence yet. They haven't developed the competence yet as
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  Speaker 1: they are developing their brains and their emotional control to
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  Speaker 1: actually make use of those rights in a manner that's
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  Speaker 1: safe for them. But adults get to make their own decisions. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So human rights are supposed to be everybody's rights, But
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  Speaker 1: in the last maybe twenty thirty years or so, all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, when you start talking about any particular
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  Speaker 1: right that is discussed as a human right, you get
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  Speaker 1: yelled at for thinking that all humans should be considered
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  Speaker 1: and not just group a group a being the ones
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  Speaker 1: with the victimhood of the moment, whether it's people of
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  Speaker 1: a particular skin color, people of a particular religion, people
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  Speaker 1: of a particular sex, people who are one sex and
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  Speaker 1: consider themselves to be the other sex, right, people who
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  Speaker 1: sleep with this group of people, people who sleep with
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  Speaker 1: that group of people, but definitely not you, And that
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  Speaker 1: seems to be the biggest problem. You're radical if you
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  Speaker 1: think human rights mean your rights. And with that we
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  Speaker 1: can get into the article. Just keep that in mind,
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  Speaker 1: it says, and by the way, this is by Ryan Hooper,
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  Speaker 1: so given to understand clear back in the day that
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  Speaker 1: mister Hooper died, but I don't know if his name
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  Speaker 1: was Ryan. So uh. The UK is ill prepared to
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  Speaker 1: deal with a new wave of online extremists, radicalized by
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  Speaker 1: toxic misogynists spouting anti seminism, semitism and conspiracy theories MPs
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  Speaker 1: worn today. So we have like the first sentence, I love.
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  Speaker 2: Juice, love, I love pagels.
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  Speaker 3: I love all of the above peoples. There we go,
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  Speaker 3: and I do not resemble that remark. I do not
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  Speaker 3: resemble any of those remobels. How very dare you?
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  Speaker 1: We are online extreme extremists radicalized by oh no, wait,
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  Speaker 1: we are the toxic misogynists, right uh, because that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what we get told all the time, especially me, because
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  Speaker 1: because I tell women that they should be accountable for
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  Speaker 1: their sexual choices, that's apparently, uh, blasphemy or something. But yeah, look,
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  Speaker 1: at this first, just this the first sentence. Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: had to throw in misogyny, anti semitism, and conspiracy theories
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  Speaker 1: all in one sentence, just to make the point. This is,
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  Speaker 1: this is particularly bad. These people are so bad that
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  Speaker 1: they've got not one, not two, but three of the baddisms.
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  Speaker 1: You guys should really steer clear of these baddisms. They
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  Speaker 1: are very dangerous people. Who are they? Well, the second
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  Speaker 1: sentence is gonna tell us the manosphere. So it's it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like the patriarchy, right or the m r A.
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  Speaker 1: We're all just one guy.
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  Speaker 3: The the hack.
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  Speaker 2: I'm onnes Fortune, Yes we are.
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  Speaker 1: The hacker known as Fortune. The minisphere has been cited
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  Speaker 1: as particularly responsible for the for shaping the attitude of
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  Speaker 1: young minds, according to a Home Affairs Committee report. So
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  Speaker 1: is Home Affairs like a gossip group or is it
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  Speaker 1: more like Homeland security?
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  Speaker 2: What is that? If Homeland security? They messed up a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things. More than a couple of things, there
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  Speaker 2: were the ones behind them. Inter scandal back a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago where lots of immigrants came out from from
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  Speaker 2: Jamaica and they messed up their papers and some immigrants
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  Speaker 2: had to go back and come back through a different way.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like a mess. And there was a sounds
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  Speaker 1: expensive it.
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  Speaker 2: Was and it costs my uncle wys pension.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane.
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  Speaker 2: He got he got it back, but he was an
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  Speaker 2: arras eras is when you're late on the WN.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, or child support.
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  Speaker 2: But also I think there was a problems with a
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  Speaker 2: cat with the Home Office. I'm not too sure why why,
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  Speaker 2: because because I'm to ask the young I remember that story.
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going on the.
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  Speaker 1: Problems with a cat. Did they hire a cat to
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  Speaker 1: be part of the to be the the official mouse
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  Speaker 1: chaser or something? I remember there being something on the
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  Speaker 1: internet about some office in the UK hired a cat
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  Speaker 1: because the cat wouldn't stay out, so they hired it
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  Speaker 1: to be the official mouser of that particular office. And
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  Speaker 1: they actually, we do have a cat made a cat
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  Speaker 1: wear a tie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have a cat called Larry the Cat
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  Speaker 2: that's in Parliament a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Probably does a better job than most
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  Speaker 1: of the mpiece. It's as well, I can imagine. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting though they haven't really given a way in
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  Speaker 1: which young minds have been corrupted here but Home Affairs,
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  Speaker 1: Home Affairs committee sounds like something that you would have
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  Speaker 1: in a church to prevent people from cheating on their partners,
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  Speaker 1: not the.
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  Speaker 2: I think just Phillips is the Home Affairs Office. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not too sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's scary. Your Home Affairs office is afraid of me? Then,
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  Speaker 1: like it has blocked me on X if it's if
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  Speaker 1: it's her, Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like she's very she's a very I've gotta
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  Speaker 2: be careful, how I how I.
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  Speaker 3: Know who Phillips is.
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  Speaker 2: She's miss she's a very evil person.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I uh. It was back during the the argument over
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  Speaker 1: giving they I guess there's some sort of office on
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  Speaker 1: the welfare of of men or of women, I mean
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  Speaker 1: in the UK, and somebody has been bringing up, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's a there's an empty four men, but that's not
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  Speaker 2: that's not empty for men.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And of course there was that that question was
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  Speaker 1: brought up, you know, well what about what about one
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  Speaker 1: for men? And she laughed at it, and then she
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  Speaker 1: went on to say some very stupid things and and
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  Speaker 1: I think I asked her something about that, you know, basically,
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  Speaker 1: is it it is it not sexist to deny men representation.
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  Speaker 1: Men don't deserve equal representation. So if men and women
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  Speaker 1: are equal, do men not have equal capacity to be
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable and have needs? And I think that's when she
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  Speaker 1: blocked me. So she's not really big on the idea
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  Speaker 1: of giving a shit if men are vulnerable and have needs,
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  Speaker 1: not not them, all right, And what you end up
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  Speaker 1: with is, you know, if if men are abused, if
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  Speaker 1: men are dealing with domestic issues of any kind, if
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  Speaker 1: you know, job loss is making them suicidal, if you know,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's not related to women in any way. Well,
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  Speaker 1: according to Jess Phillips, until every single little problem women
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  Speaker 1: have in their whole lives beginning to end, is solved,
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  Speaker 1: you can't address any of men's issues, no matter how
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  Speaker 1: big they might be, which kind of indicates that if
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  Speaker 1: one woman somewhere in the UK has a hangnail, male
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  Speaker 1: suicide has to stay off the table until that's fixed.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's feminism in the UK, it's feminism in
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  Speaker 1: the US as well. They we don't have an office
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  Speaker 1: for men either. We do have an office for men
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  Speaker 1: if they are in a particular victim group, but if
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  Speaker 1: they're not, then then says they can go fuck themselves.
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  Speaker 2: So some ethnic men are not counted unless they're dead.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that's pretty much it. So, yes, the manispheres
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  Speaker 1: is responsible for having discussed these things, and that makes
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  Speaker 1: us the bad guys, right, the online network promotes anti
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  Speaker 1: feminist beliefs. Yes, it is anti feminist. Guys. If you
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  Speaker 1: think that a violent crime is still a violent crime
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  Speaker 1: if the perpetrator is a woman and the victim is male,
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  Speaker 1: that's anti feminist. Feminists do not agree with you on that.
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  Speaker 1: Some feminists will claim they agree with you on that,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll keep saying that right up until the point
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  Speaker 1: where it comes to voting for somebody who might actually
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  Speaker 1: change laws to reflect the fact that violence is still
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  Speaker 1: violent when women do it, and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden they don't want to vote for that person anymore,
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  Speaker 1: so they don't agree. But yes, we promote anti feminist beliefs.
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  Speaker 1: Masculinity and misogyny. So promoting masculinity is a sin, now, peace,
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  Speaker 1: this is This is how bad it's gotten. They're just
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  Speaker 1: opening they promote masculinity, guys, how dare they promote masculinity?
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? And and of course misogyny
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  Speaker 1: uh and and was the subject of the recent Louis
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  Speaker 1: Thereau documentary documentary. It's it's totally a documentary. It's not propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't use the word proppaganda. Yeah, very much a
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  Speaker 1: hip piece exploring high impact or the impact of high
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  Speaker 1: profile social media purchase personalities such as no one in
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  Speaker 1: the men's rights movement at all.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know how to pronounce that either, And good
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  Speaker 3: on you for not even bothering, because.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like high school tiki takim. Well, and
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  Speaker 1: where I'm from, if you just see HS, it's probably
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  Speaker 1: high school. But that's probably not what he meant.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right, this isn't the men's movement. This
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  Speaker 3: is some bullshit that washed up ashore in the last
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  Speaker 3: two or three fucking years. Yeah, and it took it
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  Speaker 3: took over the idea of the manuscript. It took over
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  Speaker 3: the idea of the red pill. And the red pill
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  Speaker 3: has been a thing since two thousand and nine for
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  Speaker 3: anyone who doesn't know, and I'm precinct to the choir
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  Speaker 3: because this is our audience. But yeah, the whole the
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  Speaker 3: red pill thing, yes, was very much an invention of
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  Speaker 3: the early men's arts movement. As early as two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and nine, roughly when A Voice for Men was coming around.
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  Speaker 1: We stole it from the Matrix movie, but we were
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  Speaker 1: kind of the first people to do that.
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  Speaker 3: The metaphor itself isn't stealing, and.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing is.
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  Speaker 3: Things drift into the It's not much things drifted into
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  Speaker 3: the river of change, and the river of change has
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  Speaker 3: has taken that metaphor of the red pill, and it
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  Speaker 3: followed some pointless subsidiaries.
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  Speaker 2: Can you can you tell what I tomato that because
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  Speaker 2: he thinks he invented it.
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  Speaker 3: I invented I invented all of you. There we go,
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  Speaker 3: I invented men.
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  Speaker 1: So there, yeah, I love like even you know, the
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  Speaker 1: the MRAs that people would think of as the original
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  Speaker 1: m ras people today would think of these original m
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  Speaker 1: ras have acknowledged that they're not the original m ras.
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  Speaker 1: On A Voice for Men, there's a whole section where
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  Speaker 1: Paul Elam has published the writings of Ernest Belfort Bax,
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  Speaker 1: who was probably at least in terms of the United
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  Speaker 1: States and in terms of he didn't call himself an MRA,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, nobody started out calling themselves men's rights activists.
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  Speaker 1: That was something that we adopted after feminists tried to
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  Speaker 1: use it as as a slur. Oh, you're a men's
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  Speaker 1: rights activist. Horror, horror, horror. Well, if you're going to
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  Speaker 1: call us that, then we'll accept it. We'll we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about it that way. We are smoking in terms of
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  Speaker 1: men's rights.
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  Speaker 2: That's like you and what.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it had to come all the way down to
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  Speaker 3: the literal description, down to the agent, down down to
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  Speaker 3: the verb that we do. Like, we're not menonists, we're
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  Speaker 3: not the equivalent of feminists, we're not masculinists, we're not
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  Speaker 3: an ideology. We are just people who usually advocate for
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  Speaker 3: the human rights of men. And eventually they were like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well we can turn that into a verb men's advocate,
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  Speaker 3: see or whatever, and then we can turn that into
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  Speaker 3: an initialism, this evil m R thing. It sounds it
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  Speaker 3: sounds like a like like a like like some kind
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  Speaker 3: of terrorists cell. See, we win the argument.
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  Speaker 1: You said, sell, Yeah, Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And then there were the in cells and so on
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  Speaker 3: and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course nobody, nobody understands the in cells, but.
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  Speaker 2: Not even so called experts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there have been in cells throughout human history.
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  Speaker 1: They just haven't always called themselves that the white man
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  Speaker 1: they haven't always networked because there hasn't always been an
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  Speaker 1: Internet with.
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  Speaker 2: The white bubbs because of the in.
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  Speaker 1: It would depend on whether or not they wanted a relationship,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, because if they didn't, they were too.
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  Speaker 3: Busy in the aeroplane to get involved with any bitches.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's the story. Now. You could call that makedow,
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  Speaker 3: you could call it. It doesn't really matter. They invented airplanes,
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  Speaker 3: fuck yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they just decided that they didn't have time
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  Speaker 1: for women, then that's voluntary and there's nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 1: that either, by the way. But uh yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know who this HS tikie talkie guy is, but
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna find out, right, And then of course they
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  Speaker 1: mentioned their devil he's a what okay, and their devil
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, who is the dorkiest devil I have ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: Right, he's also picked up at this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude would probably be fun to talk to,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know. It depends on if he like
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  Speaker 1: gets out of political mode when he's just hanging out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, smashed law and stuff, and so I don't happen Okay, Yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I said allegedly, there we go, so she's flat now, huh.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: The committee said youngsters are often radicalized. Radicalized people radicalized
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: through a toxic myss mix of anti semitism. And that's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like the first thing on the list too. We went
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: from misogyny and and the evil masculinity to uh to
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: anti semitism all of a sudden again.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I got I got I like bagels, so they got
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: they got that right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: There we go misogyny and conspiracy theories, which have profound
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: implications for national security, public order, and social cohesion. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: have to wonder, though, do they think that the Manisphere
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: is going to rush the border? Do they think that,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you know, they're going to like, I don't know what,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: what could possibly happen.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: The most of you guys just just took crap on
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the internet, though, so they that would be do you much?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing that the biggest thing that I can
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: think of is if if the Manisphere actually were to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: run rampant through the systems of the nations that it's in, right,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: is h you'd end up with more intact families and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: more intact penises. As this terrifies feminists, I'm sure quite
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: likely you would end up with less crime in the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: next generation due to having more intact families, you would
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: end up with less dependence on the welfare system. Gandalis guys.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You might not have to budget as much money to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: pay people to be incapable of supporting themselves or just unwilling,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: depending on who you talk to and where you go.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Even worse, kids would know who their father was, like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that's just terrifying people. His father was, Oh my god.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: And you would only go to jail if you did
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: something illegal. That would just terrify I'm sure all of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the authorities. The idea that they could not put people
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in jail who did nothing illegal. What a horrifying thought
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: for the jess Phillips of the world. Profound implications it added,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Oh go ahead.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I did meet a laby of backbencher six years ago.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I met her when I went up to Parliament. They
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: we did a tour in Parliament six years ago and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: we went around the chambers as well. So which was
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a nice tour that we went to.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So so, uh, did you how many My friend Richard
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: has a lot of trauma to get through. How many
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: how many members of Parliament did did you have to meet?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I just met one. So we were doing a thing
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: about fireworks, trying to get fireworks not bad, but to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: limit the sale or fires on the no vembois. So
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I said to her, aid, you need to focus that
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: onto women and children, because I will care about soldiers
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: with PTSD. And they kind of had the shops up
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: on his face when I said that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you were right if they wanted to ban something, Yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the best thing is to you know, if they want
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to do it, and it's something that should be banned,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: which fireworks, Depending on where you are, it's it's kind
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of six or one half does in the other. There's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this thing called the Darwin Awards.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I told I told him focus on women and pets.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because if you if you suggest that women
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: are going to be scared by the fireworks, or that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it'll start house fires and women won't get out, all
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, everybody will want to ban fireworks. Right,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: But if you just talk about how soldiers with PTSD
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: might be traumatized, that's.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Why I say, yeah, that's why I said, first but
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: no one cared.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they they would. They would then turn around and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: said nobody cares, and they need to get over it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Or whatever, people don't seem to have the same I've
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: even seen people harass soldiers with PTSD for having support
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: not support animals, the real helper animals or have another name,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: but je're about support animals so much. But basically, the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: dog is there to assist the soldier in maintaining control
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: of himself in a situation where his brain is trying
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to take him back to a combat zone or some
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: other horrifying experience that he had during the war, which
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: if he was if he's a gen gen x er
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and he went to Desert Storm or Desert Shield, it
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: might have just been the the Afghani soldiers raping little
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: boys in the next room, because that happened, and the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: military told our guys they weren't allowed to do anything
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: about it. I've told to stand down. They were told
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to stand down, that's right, and they came back with
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: horror stories about that, wanting to go protect those kids. Yes, Meredith,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Meredith g reminded me service animals. So I've seen soldiers
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: get harassed for having service animals. Not where I live.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I think where I live, if somebody harassed a soldier here,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: half the community would beat the shit out of them
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: for it. But I mean I I could, I could
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: just about throw a rock from home and hit the base.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So but I have been places where I have seen
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that happen and it's just insane. Like the Obviously, the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: dog isn't there for emotional support, just for emotional support
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: for the soldier. The dog is there to protect the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: soldier and, depending on the circumstances, to protect you. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: yet people get cheesed off about how can you let
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that animal in here? You know, well, man, we'll let
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you in here. And yeah, we can't discriminate between different
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: types of bitches, So there you go. But yeah, so
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the report adds misogyny was described to us by somebody.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't say who, right, It doesn't explain, It just
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: says misogyny was described to us as a persistent and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: pervasive feature of online extremism. Notice that it doesn't say
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: within the manisphere, or within the men's rights movement, or
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: among any particular group. It just says online extremism. So
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: we're seeing some very disconnected things here that are being
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: linked together to try to prove anybody that talks about
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: men's issues needs to be silenced, and it gains traction
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: in online subcultures with a broader or within the broader manisphere,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a loosely connected network of groups, influencers, and online communities,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: including in cells, influencing attitudes and behaviors. So how much
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: influence do you think we've had? They blame this for
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Trump getting elected.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: People still use your talking points.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah they do that, that's true. But yeah, I wonder,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I wonder how much behavior we have actually influence. I'm
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: hoping for one in particular, uh, in recent years, I'm
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: hoping that people have figured out that if you're if
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you're politician that you like or the party that you
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like uses false rape allegations or false allegations of any
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: type of sexual misconduct as campaign material against the other candidate,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: that that should cost them your loyalty, period, no, no questions,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: no matter what else they're suggesting, that should be enough.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You know that that that you should no longer support
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: that party, that candidate, and so on. In fact, if
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: they don't have anything better, then that person did a
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: bad and we can't prove it. But now we have
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: muddied the water, and you're you've got to vote against
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: that for that's a reason to completely abandon them and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: but before I go on, I thought I saw scooting
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: by here a comment that I should see and read.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: It's right in front of me. It's actually the most
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: recent comment too. I was scrolling up for it. Think
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: about it a service animal. Service animals can detect when
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a diabetic has low blood sugar or if an epileptic
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: is about to have seizure, So of course they can
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: sense when a vet might be in trouble. Yep, exactly,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and it is every bit is important as the service
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: animal for any other illness or ailment because it is well,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: it's not an epileptic seizure. PTSD will seize you in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a totally different way. It can immobilize you. It can
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: cause behavior that you're not normally prone to engaging in.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: You know, it can totally change what you see in
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: front of you in a way. It can take you
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: internally to a place where you're not engaging with the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: world around you, and it could put somebody in danger
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: in the middle of a busy street, or cause somebody
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to become combative in the middle of a crowd. And
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: so you do need to have service animals for vets
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: with PTSD. It's very important. People with PTSD in general,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you can you can have a moment where you need
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: somebody else to take control of what you're doing, and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: another human being might scare you enough to make things worse,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: where if you learn to rely on a dog, it
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: makes things a lot easier. But while I'm at it,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I will also read to switch here. Meredith g gave
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: us five dollars in a super chow as well and said,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: HBr talked three ninety eight honey for the badgers. I'm
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: not going to take anything accusations of misogyny seriously in
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a country which silences any real reporting on grooming gangs
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and the effects of mass migration. This is also the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: same government that is taking benefits away from veterans if
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: they are receiving pay for injuries while servicing in a war,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: received while serving in a war. They're also taking families
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: for soldiers' death benefits could go on. Yeah, I had
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: heard about that. So they're basically telling soldiers, yeah, we
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: we sent you over to get injured or possibly killed,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and it happened, and we said we'd support you if
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: it happened, but now we're not going to You can
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: go fuck yourselves like that's pretty much and and why
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: because they need to pay more benefits to migrants, just
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like here in the US, there's been oh, there's not
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: money for this, and there's not money for that, for
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of initiatives for American citizens. But there was
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: all kinds of money to send to Ukraine, right, there
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: was all kinds of money to hide, uh, to house
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: illegal migrants. And there were people that got thrown out
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of apartments and houses that they were renting so that
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the landlord could get three times as much money from
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the government to house migrants that were illegal that we're
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: here illegally. So that's that's what's going on. But we're
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about that, right because you're radical.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: If you notice that the government is not treating the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: new people and the existing citizens the same way, you
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: certainly can't talk about the fact that the government imported
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: them to replace the existing voters. That's definitely an off off,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you know, the table forbidden.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Topic because of the life birth rate.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, because of the low birth rate, and also because
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: nobody else will vote for Democrats or possibly some of
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the other parties in Europe.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: And needless to say, landlords are the devil. Unless landlords
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: are being paid off by the government, in which case
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: what landlords don't even worry about it. Landlords are bad
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: because they're so rich, so their wealth should be transferred
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: to the government, which is not rich at all.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about money money money printers go bir indeed.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it gains traction in online subcultures within the
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: broader broader manisphere. Yeah, but they said the system for
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: flushing out wanta be terrorists prevent is outdated, and.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Train videos on bus videos on YouTube.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: So this do they do? They actually flag groups of people?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else I was?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I was flagged around twenty twenty nineteen, good grief. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: but because I said I was then in cel somebody
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: giggled with it and they looked all this horrible stuff and.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Got scared.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I mentioned that you're insult anybody but him.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: You're adorable, bro. We got flagged twenty fifteen because we
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: were m R. I'm being flippant.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Met Richard is adorable actually being facetious. Yes, but apparently
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: now watching train videos makes you a terrorist.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: And I play and I also played Thomas the Tank as.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Well on Stain. Oh no, that makes it even worse. You.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: You watch train videos and you play video games.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: That's that's about training. It's like the Thomas the Tanking
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: game is like training. It's like a skin of try.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: It familiar, like Thomas the Tank Engine.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So the one thing that I will say is I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: remember Thomas the Trank the tank Engine from when I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: was older. But I have no memory of Thomas the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Tank Engine existing when I was a little kid. But
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I do have this really weird nightmare about being chased
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: by Thomas the Tank Engine and it's going to run
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: over me when I was a kid.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry for laughing. I don't know why I loft well, and.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that I was traumatized by seeing the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Talking train as a kid and just blocked it out.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: But that was from Alex Baldwin back in the two thousands.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Oh jeez, that's like I was. I became an adult
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two. Technical I was eighteen in nineteen
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: ninety so became an adult the summer of nineteen ninety.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: But according to the feminist, your female brain doesn't evolve
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: until you're forty five.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: This is a this is this is probably the biggest
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: cell phone of feminism. Admitting that women don't grow up
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: till they're in their thirties. I'm not going to say
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that I can contradict that based on my behavior as
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a young woman, So I'm not gonna I'm not going
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: to disagree with that. But what it indicates is that
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: women shouldn't vote.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Well, it's obviously like planting the highest possible boundary with
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: no regard to the lowest possible boundary when it comes
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: to the sex. I mean, I can totally believe that
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: there are people these days who can reach the age
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: of thirty having not fully mentally dive left because there's
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: all kinds of social mechanisms in place to sort of
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: arrest people's development in that way. So yeah, obviously. But
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: in the same way, there's some people who have lived
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: in abject poverty or or something similar to it, or
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: at least, you know that the kind of comparable poverty
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: where they have to figure out how the fuck the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: world works around them, and they can you call it
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: a privilege, not not really. You can call it. You
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: can call it an advantage.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: The way that feminists name everything good privilege. You probably can,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: But most things that they call privilege are Yeah, they're
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: just advantages. Just because something is an it doesn't mean
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it's a privilege. If everybody should have it, it's not
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: a privilege.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And the point is you can't make everyone have this
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: in that kind of system. Okaat because women are being
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: treated like children and thus they never develop skills beyond
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that of children. Well, you're treating men and boys of
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: all ages like adults, and so they develop the skills
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: of adults. And then you go, oh, whoe is us?
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Why is it that men are doing all the adult
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: things and women are doing well fucking childish things. Well, gee,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: let me fucking check my quantum watch here. I don't
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: fucking know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will. I will admit that I was
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a dipshit for a lot longer than I should have
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: been into my adult years, and I'm very lucky that
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I wasn't into anything illegal.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: So, but.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of women are. I
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: think most women are. Actually I don't think guys can
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: get away with that, but I think a lot of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: women do when they shouldn't.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: And now I think guy's special needs could get rid
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In the meantime, you know, you have you have
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: a total different set of standards for Like, if you're
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: thirty and you're living with you know, in your in
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: your family home at thirty as a as an adult male,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and you do not have a job, and you are
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: not earning money, and you are relying on the income
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: of another adult who lives with you. It doesn't matter
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: whether it's your parents or your wife or a sibling.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. If you don't have some sort of
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: disability to cause that that that would explain it, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you're just doing that, people would people would look down
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: on you. Right, And if you go to court to
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: extract yourself from that situation and you demand the right
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: to take some of that income with you to keep
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you in the lifestyle to which you've become accustomed, the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: judge will just look at you and say, get a job, dude.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: You don't deserve a part of this income just because
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you were getting it when you lived in this house.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: You should. You should go get a job. There's gas
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: station down the street, go apply there. You could go
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to the grocery store on the corner, go apply there.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Get a job. They're always looking for people at sanitation, right,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: get a job. But if you're female and that person
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: happens to be your spouse. Then on the way out,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: you can demand that the court gives you a percentage
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of his income for the rest of your life, not
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: even you know, for a limited amount of time till
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you get on your feet, but for the whole rest
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: of your life, as long as you don't remarry, and
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: the court will say, well that's reasonable. Here you go. So,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: no matter how old women get, when we're ninety nine
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: years old, no teeth, boobs, dragging you know, along behind
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: us when we walk, we are still not mature enough,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: not adult enough, for the court to suggest that at
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: some point we ought to stop depending on someone else
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: for our income.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: That's not going to happen in my lifetime, is it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't think alimony would ever end.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't think that there would be any any states
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: that would ban it or suggests that it was inappropriate
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: in all but the most extreme circumstances. But there there
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: are some. So there are some local systems that are
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: waking up. But I don't know if it'll become a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: universal thing.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: That's because woman of my most affected by alimony.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Some of them got rid of it
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: because men were receiving it. That's pretty bad too. Oh no,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: this is benefiting the people that we were trying to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: use it to punish. But they'll tell you it's not
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a punishment, it's it's just supporting your your partner. The
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: worst thing about it is in in the US, where
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: we have no fault divorce, which I'm sure the UK
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: pretty much has the same thing. Now it doesn't even matter.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: So my mom's friend got the forced and I was
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: paying eight hundred pounds in child support. His ex wife
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: went to a solicitor and she told the solicitor, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: the solicitor said he needs to be paying more. But
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: he put his foot down and said no, he's only
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: going to pay the eight hundred pounds.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So the solicitor, the solicitor is like a lawyer in
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: the United States. So the solicitor suggested suing for more.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the b the ex husband said no, I'm
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: only going to pay the eight hundred pounds that they're
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: entitled to.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So well, the thing that happens in the US is
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: if you go back to court, which happens all the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: time because she's asking for more child support, you end
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: up having to prove that there is a reason why
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: she shouldn't get it. She doesn't have to prove that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: there's a reason why she should get it. It's the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: other way around. So and and for the court, this
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: will make me homeless and cost me my job, and
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: then I won't be able to pay any support is
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: not a reason. The court does not consider that to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: be a reason. The court will allow as a reason.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: You know, they're they're living in, you know, a perfectly
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: safe neighborhood, all of their expenses are paid, the kids
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: are already well taken care of, and she makes three
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: times as much money as me. So there isn't a
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: reason why she should receive this. But only if it's
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: in a state where it's mostly based on a percentage
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: of the percentage of the combined income of the two parents.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Each parent's income is if that makes sense, So I
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: get into that formula more. But I might use the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: hell out of everybody.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: That the comedians that you've paid five grand five grand
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: a month in child support, and the judge doubled it
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: because of his earnest the previous year, but he wasn't
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: making that much money the next year.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I know there was one in Canada that had to
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: move to the United States.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Because of that, they they fully for news, they fully
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: focused in the hole that was his name because he
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: can't step foot in Canada ever.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Again, yeah, we have we have guys here that are
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: homeless because of their their combined payments and they can't
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: make them. You know, they end up unable to make
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: those payments, and they end up because of the combined punishments,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: which can include losing your driver's license, which makes it
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: difficult for you to get to work, They've ended up
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: losing their jobs and their homes and everything. Guys that
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: have ended up in jail and their child support doesn't
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: go down even after that. And yeah, even then, because
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the reason they went to jail is because they couldn't
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: pay the support that the judge ordered. They don't get
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: it lowered. So when they come out, they have thousands
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: of dollars in arrears and if they don't start paying
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: on that right away, they just get sent right back.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: So's it's a the only instance left in the United
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: States where debtors prison is a thing. But it's quite
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the h at the same time, you know, we get
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: told that when we talk about this, that we are
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: that we're bashing women, right referring to them as gold diggers,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: talking about them like they don't do anything. And yet,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: if a woman has an income that's as high as
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the income that her ex has and they're sharing equal
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: time with the kids, why should he pay her support?
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: And if they're not sharing equal time with the kids,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: why not because most of the time they should be,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and in fact, really most of the time, there never
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: should have been a divorce. The biggest fear I think
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: that a lot of guys have is that they're going
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: to end up in that situation through no fault of
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: their own, where they get married and they have kids,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and five to ten years down the line, after their
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: wedding day, she gets bored or she's just not happy,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: or you know, they're not spending enough time together or whatever,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and she decides to go off with some other guy
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: and wants to replace him with that guy in the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: kids' lives, and goes to court to divorce him. In
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the court automatically gives her the kids, limits his time
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: with them, and then garnishes his income to pay for
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: that lifestyle choice of hers. And yet we call it
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: child support. It's no wonder men think of women as children.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: After a certain point in their lives. If women behave
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: that way, that's an incredibly childish thing to do to
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: your partner or anybody else. Why wouldn't they think of
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: women as children? But in any case, going on with
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: this So, they said the system for flushing out wanta
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: be terrorists is outdated, inadequately prepared to deal with modern
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: extremism challenges in the digital world. They said, long standing
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: terrorist threats such as Islamist and far right extremism remain,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: but new forms of extremes are emerging and give rise
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: to growing concern And what are these new forms of extremism?
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: What is the monster that is lurking in the Internet
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: that these people are so terrified of memes?
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: See the man? Oh spare?
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: This guy is that guy? I know? I have never
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: seen him before this article. This is.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Nika, I think.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Hs Tiki Taki.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think I recognize him from the through documentary.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently he.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I can't remember anything he said because he was so
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: vacuous and unnecessary, and I think that was the point
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: of that documentary.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, this guy is enough by himself to
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: bring the entire UK military to its knees. He is
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the ultimate threat, the ultimate threat to the UK. That's
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: that's what they've said here. New forms of extremism are
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: emerging and give rise to growing concern. And they mentioned
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: him even before the feminist devil Andrew Taate. So hs
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Tiki Taki is a parent I can't say that without laughing. Sorry,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: this guy, this guy is the biggest threat in the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: whole UK.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Sorry, doesn't he look scary there with his plastic Hookah?
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I hope that's what that is. I don't want to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: know what it is. If that's not what it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Is, The biggest threat to the UK would never be
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: mentioned in the British press, And by that I mean
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: you've got to go deep because Banksy, you would think
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: it was a subversive type that that was that that
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: surely is speaking truth to power and would never be
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: mentioned in the legacy media. No, Banksy was mentioned in
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: the legacy media all the time. If you, if you,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: if you, if you really want to find who's really
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: moving ship and shaking it, you have to go beyond
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: the television. You have to go beyond the radio, you
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: have to go beyond broadcast media. This is you know,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: many many of us in the xenial generation sort of
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: compiling this bunch of ideas as to how we're supposed
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: to present this to the boomers who raised us. Yeah,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: because there's so much that don't understand. But yeah, ship,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: I think I just, I just I just revealed an
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: element of my ah pure motif.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't give away the entire evil plan.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so many of us we're trying to use night
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: the divide between generations, and I'm like saying, yeah, because
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: we never used to have names for generations. We never
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: used to have this okay, boomer thing and whatever the
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: equivalent is of boomers talking to gen Z's something something,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: avocados something something. And Yeah, No, I think I already
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: made this point in a video some time ago. But
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: this civil war between generations seems like a stupid idea.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: It's been going on for so long that it seems
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: like a normal idea because it was Boomers, and then
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: it was gen X, and then it was millennials, and
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: then it was jen Alva, and then it was It's
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: actually not normal to have different names for different generations,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: like and to even have any idea of where one
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: begins and the other ends, because generations don't work like that,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: there's always new people being born. And well, I'll tell
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: you what started people doing.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: What? What started it was not something good. The the
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: naming of generations started with the Lost Generation. The Lost
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Generation were also they were essentially, I guess, the how
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to explain they came home from from war and that
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the world was different than the way that it was
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: when they went to war and they couldn't find their place.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: They couldn't go back into normal life. But they couldn't
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: they really couldn't, you know, go back to where they
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: came from, and there was no it didn't exist anymore.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: So they really didn't have a place, and they were
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: treated like they really didn't have a place. And the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: term was not popularized by like some official this is
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: this is the way generations work, you know kind of
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: it was. It was writers. It was popular first widely
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: popularized by Gertrude Stein and Ernest Hemingway mostly I think
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Ernest Hemingway, and and it just really caught on. And
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: then after that you had them describing the generations based
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: on some characteristic that stood out about them. The Greatest
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Generation was incredibly adaptable. The Baby Boomer generation happened because
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: people came home from the war and fucked like rabbits,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: and so they had a lot of kids. They had
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: more kids than expected, way more kids than expected. And
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: that was the Baby Boomer generation because they came from
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the Baby Boom and Gen X. They started naming us
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: gen X because we didn't act like the previous generations
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and we didn't make sense. So we were a bit
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: of a bit of a chemical X to them. I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: guess you could say they didn't understand us, and we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: didn't understand them. We didn't get along very well, and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: they saw us as impending failures because we weren't doing
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: things their way, and there was a lot of media
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: publication about you know, oh gen X is slow starters,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: gen X failure to launch, blahlah blah, bah blah blah blah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Well then they did the same thing to the next generation,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: which they started calling Generation Why initially the media, but
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: eventually called the Millennials, I guess because that sounds cooler
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: or something. But in the long run, they were wrong
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: about both generations, and as each generation passes, you know,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: they come up with another. Well, we had Gen X,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: so we have to have Gen Y, and we had
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: to have Gen Z and that's where Zoomer comes from.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And of course the generation at them has to be
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Gen Alpha, like we had gone through the whole alphabet
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and we're starting over. But we didn't do that, So
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: it's kind of silly. And the reality is that they're
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: just There's always going to be generational differences. There's always
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: going to be dramatic differences between groups of people. But
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest I think was between boomers and xers,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of it is because of
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: how technology changed. And I hope they don't continue with
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the the alphabet thing. And Mangaka ninety two has already
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: touched on why in the in the shoot in the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: rumble chat gen Beta, I do not want to run
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: into Gen Beta. We're gonna hear nothing but but alphabet
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: to talk.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: I have I have a I have a he was
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: last December.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. See, we can't call them that. We
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: cannot call them Jen Beta. We have to come up
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: with something else. They have to have a different name.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: They cannot be called beta. That's just not nice. But
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: in any case, if we did consider it, then everybody
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: that has a boy when Jen Gamma comes around has
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: to name him Ray. Oh yes, this uh, this terrible threat,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the the horrific threat of the what is this guy
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: in his twenties? So he would be a millennial, right,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: he'd be a SMA zoomer. Oh god, that's right, because
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: the millennials are in their thirties.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: He'd be like he'd be like early g alpha.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I just saw a twenty twentieth anniversary
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: something about Pokemon not too long ago. That's That's probably
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the only I felt in a while. Thirtieth you're right, thirtieth, Yeah,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm I'm old that that makes me old
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: right there. But yeah, so this guy, this guy is
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a millennial or a zoomer, right, and that's that's who
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: they're scared of.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I'm is I would come with the selenium, the kind
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: of Selenio.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's my my, my brother's kind of like that.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: He counts sort of is both uh millennial and h
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: gen xer. But yeah, I I can't imagine being scared
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: of that guy. But it goes on. It warns the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: UK currently lacks the evidence base and up to date
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: research needed to keep pace with these developments, so they
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: don't have evidence that these people are extremists, or that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: they're dangerous or any other such thing. But they need
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: to make up some evidence so they can do something
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: about the freethinkers. That's really bad. All the freethinkers might
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: destroy the country. Amid concerns from experts that Britain is
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: so much in the dark, Committee chairman Dame Karen of
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: course she's a Karen Damn. Karen Bradleyy told the male
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: children and young people are being radicalized by what they
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: experience online. Increasing numbers of cases are being uncovered where
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: children and young people, fueled by the hate they see
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: in the digital sphere, have planned to carry out violent
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: attacks in the real world. Now we don't have big
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: done it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've been both just ship post in mind.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Jeez, this is the old media. I'm stressing over the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: fact that they're being taken over by the new media.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: I imagine something similar happened when the printing press was invented.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: And like the scribes who used to describe all of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: the media, well, like this can't be allowed to happen.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: How dare people just have a device that can just
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: print words? How very dare you? And I mean for
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: anyone who's tried to keep up with what's going on
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: on the television over the last twenty years while also
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: paying attention to what's going on on the Internet. You'll
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: you'll notice that the people are on the TV are
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: spreading all kinds of lies about how the Internet is
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: full of pintofiles and terrorists and shit. And yeah, I
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: guess it is all right whatever, But so is the TV.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: But I guess we're all getting ter repeedoed.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and I look at this future of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: AI and I think, well, that's my competition. At anyone
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: who makes videos or even podcasts online will look at
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: AI and go, well, that's my competition. So this is
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: why I'm reluctant to sort of engage in my anti
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: AI rands anything I have started up there.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't I don't.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Want to fall into the same trap that the legacy
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: media fell into when the Internet was invented. Yeah, of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: course you're going to criticize your competition, And yeah, I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: feel the need to criticize my competition, which is AI.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: And it's I guess it's ironic that the very legacy
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: media that tried to bury me is probably going to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: try and use AI to bury me from the other direction.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: What was that. What were we even talking about? Oh yeah,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: something about gender politics. Sorry, I went off on quite
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: the tangent there.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting because what I'm seeing right now is
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: people of various beliefs trying to manipulate AI and use
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: AI as a tool to promote their beliefs. But there
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: seems to be this consensus among its creators that it
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: will eventually outpace human thinking and operate on its own
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: without human control or assistance or influence of any type.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: And I have a feeling that when that happens, it's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: basically just if that happens, it's going to call bullshit
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: on all of the isms, all of the phobias, and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: all of the accusations of isms and phobias, and there
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: won't be any further ability to push any of this
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: bullshit that we're having to deal with, and people will
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: not be getting called extremist for suggesting that if something
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: is a human right, that doesn't there's not some group
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: of humans, some demographic that is excluded because of their
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: skin color, or their sex, or their religion or anything
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: else like that. It's it's a human right, emphasis on
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: the human, not the right, and and that's going to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: change things. But I have no idea if you know
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: that's a near future or distant future prediction, or if
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: it'll even come into play at all. But in the meantime,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: we have to deal with these dipshits in politics, the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: the people within the parliamentary system at the head of
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: every country that that either is part of the UK
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: or started out as a as a UK colony or
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: took its its government system from the UK. And and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: that basically is a large portion of Europe, as well
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: as the United States, Canada, Australia, I think New Zealand.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: So we're looking at a lot of all over the
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: world these systems where the parliamentary system is trying to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: maintain its power by demonizing men and in particular demonizing
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: men having any self interest at all and making it out,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: like Richard pointed out, if you really want to turn
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: something into the big batty, you paint it as a
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: thing that hurts women. And that's what this is all about.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: This is about government power and establishment media power. So
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: when they say this threat is growing and evolving, they
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: mean the threat that you might maintain a sense of
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: self interest and not just accept everything bad they want
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: to do to you that comes down a pike. The
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: response has failed to keep pace. In other words, the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: peasants are revolting. The support mechanisms intended to guide young
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: people away from radicalization were designed in a different age.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: In other words, we can't brainwash the children anymore. They're
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: starting to think for themselves, and they don't have sufficient
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: understanding of algorithm and AI driven content, meaning that people
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: who are influencing them to think for themselves have tools
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: that we can't stop, or the patchwork of conspiracy theories
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: warping young people's minds. Oh shit, they've figured out what
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: we're doing, she said. The government needs to find ways
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: to stop hatred, intimidation and violence being monetized as it
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: is currently. So if we cut off the revenue streams,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: these people will shut up. That's what she's basically saying.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Dame Karen added it needs to combat the business model
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: as well as the individuals responsible if it's not profitable.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: If we cut off the revenue stream, these people will
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: no longer be able to influence other people. The committee
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: has called on the Home Office to better understand emerging
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: emerging forms of extremism like this dork and of course
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: he has the dumbest expression there. The report found just
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: over one third thirty six percent of the nearly nine
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: thousand referrals to the government counter Terror Terrorism Prevents scheme
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: in the year to March twenty twenty five, we're between
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: eleven and fifteen. Okay, what the fuck do they think
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: an eleven year old is going to do? Did they
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: think he's going to build a bomb in his basement?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Do they expect there to be some eleven year old
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: kid storming the gates of Parliament? If that's a fifth
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: grader right in the US, that's a fifth grader.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: An eleven year old kid nowadays was born in twenty fifteen. Now,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: this is difficult for any of us to understand because
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: most of us are, you know, Gen X or millennial
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: or something. But yeah, we're talking about we're talking about
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: kids who are grown up with a personal tablet. Now, now,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: maybe I'm looking too var into the future, maybe I'm
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: looking at my own experience, but no, it's been going
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: on for some time. Uh, humans have been introduced to
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: their own specific devices for a long time now. I
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: don't know if it started with Nintendo, but Nintendo was
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: certainly in there. But at least in those days, all
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: they could do was program a game something where you
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: jump over over things and stuff. But now we're at
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: the point and I've forgot what I'm responding to, but
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: I'll go ahead just and describe what I.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Was the question of what an eleven year old boy
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: could possibly be planning on doing that they would think
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: of him as a terrorist worthy of federal investigation.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But meanwhile, let's look at what the TV is doing.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: The TV is telling you that men oppressed women, something
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: that video games never did. Video games never said, hey,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: men oppressed women. Sorry, Anita, it never happened. But televisions
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: and indeed movie screens have been have been telling women
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: to get revenge on men for quite a while now,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: and so have internet screens. All kinds of screens have
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: been in the business of telling women to get revenge
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: on men. Because what was it men did. I don't
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: know wherever it was they.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Get from uncomfortable life.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: That'll do there, you are, oh very dear, yep, So
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: that that is uh, that's that's the scary thing about
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: the e love and roll.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: He might grow up to invent something that makes women's
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: lives so easy that they're just bored all the time,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like the that invented the washing machine so
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: that women don't have to beat clothing on rocks anymore.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Or you might just end up watching retro that a lot.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: There you go. He might he might be a complete
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: and utter web and uh, only only speaking anime quotes,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: and then all the women around him will hate him,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: except for the ones who are also webs. So there
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Women, we've always looking to upgrade so they won't go
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: out the merrill Quifflin.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's like any other women, just like any
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: other women.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Same with disabled women as well. Yep, I never forget
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: I black piled him and try a discolor because of that,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: I said. I went into a discord cool and they
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: were talking about like pea stuff, about pill stuff, and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: I said, even the sable women have hypergamy.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that was a shocker to him.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So because when I say that on Twitter, don't
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: really believe me.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's true. There's not really and some of
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: it is natural and some of it is taught, and
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: it's been taught for centuries even back in the day
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: when marriages were arranged. Like if if you, as a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: father of a daughter, like your prospects where either your
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: daughter lives with you until you die and you have
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: to support her until you die and you have to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: work your whole life to support this this old maid,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: or she marries and someone else is going to support her.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: You don't want her to come home, so you want
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: to marry You want her to marry someone whose supports
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: are better than you did so that she'll stay with him. Right.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: That's that's hypergamy. That's that that is a root or
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: a seed of hypergamy in human civilization. But if women
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: are going to like the traad, if they do what
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: the trad Cottons want, which is basically to not bring
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: money into the household in any significant way, then then
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: they do have to marry somebody who is marrying up.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: They do have to marry up. Otherwise, you know, you
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: do end up working right. And sometimes even if you
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: marry up, if you marry up but he's divorced, you
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: still end up working right. So there you go. The
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: The vast majority of referrals, nearly nearly five thousand, were
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: listed as having no specific ideology, while another one seven
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: ninety eight were concerned with right wing extreme right wing ideology.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: So they're the minority right, but they're the ones that
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: are that are being looked at. Here Islamist extremists accounted
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: for eight hundred and seventy referrals. Well, in cell extremism
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: and who describe themselves as involuntarily celibate are often characterized
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: by misogynistic views too much for just no rooms. Yep,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: well it's connected to sixty six referrals. But I mean,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: if you can get referred just for sitting in your
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: room watching trains and talking about how you've been treated
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: by other people, then it's not a very good system.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: So then it goes on. Southport Killer Axel Ruda Cabana.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Can I call him actual rude Bega? Yeah, go ahead,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: murdered three schoolgirls at a dance class in Southport twenty
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: twenty four. Is alleged to have launched his horror knife
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: rampage out of an in cell hatred of women.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: All right, citation needed?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanna wanna. I found this guy's picture.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sure miss especially important.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Wait, this is the first I've heard that he was
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: some kind of fucking.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I think this is him. This is yeah, this is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: from anage. This image is from an article that is
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: called This is from unheard dot com, which is not
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: really a great source.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: It's a thing.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's a bunch of different images, most
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: of them are drawn images from court. But this is
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: the image that I remember being run all over the place.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah that one.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just tasted a lemon.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Well he's holding told he's holding in the far.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: While this picture was being taken, the BBC was presenting
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: everyone with a thirteen year old actually ruddy cabana, as
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: as as some bright eyed, bushy tailed pupil of a
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: small school who just enjoyed Doctor Who causplay and whatnot.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: They did the same thing with Tray from Martin as well.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, yeah this picture, see if I can this right?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same person?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Would you go ahead and look at that?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: He was stapped in prison like a while ago, sir,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: was it? Yeah?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: I hope he dies. Like I don't often get to
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: say this, but I hope Axel Ruddy Bonnet dies in
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: prison as soon as possible. I don't I don't want
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: anyone's taxes going towards going towards him continuing to live.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: I see no reason why he should live.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Did this guy state a reason why he uh no,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: did what he did.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he did, but the police did not record
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: it nor send it onto the mass media. I imagine
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: it's something along the same lines as the guy who
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: stabbed Irian Azariska. I got that white girl, I imagine. Now,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: I don't have any concise evidence about this, but I
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: would think he sought out a dance class of little
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: white girls, and he tracked down that dance class of
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: little white girls.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: And he sounds like a very disturbed individual.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: He stabbed as many of them as he could. He
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: killed three of them, he injured another eight of them,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: and when he stood up in court, he showed no
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: remorse whatsoever. He was like, yeah, I'm glad they did
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: I'll do it again. And I'm like, why is this
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: man alive? What reason do we have to keep this
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: man alive?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: That's also, this guy had no involvement in anywhere in
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: the men's rights movement. Right and brave, I'll give you
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: what brave. AI found in various news stories. It gives
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: citations for each news story, but It pointed out that
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: prosecutors and the sentencing judge described him as a young
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: man with a sickening and sustained interest and death and violence,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: and it went on he didn't state a motivation per se,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: but things that he did make known, things that he
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: did say, included a desire for mass murder. He had
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: a settled and determined intention to murder as many kids
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: at as he could at that dance class. Showed the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: lack of remorse. Like you said, he said, I'm glad
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: to see those kids that it makes me happy. Obsession
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: with violence hit a longstanding fixation on genocide, school shootings,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: and al Qaeda training manuals, which he used to plan
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: the attack. But he didn't have a political manifesto, which
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: probably made things very difficult for feminists. The thing that
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: really struck me about this and the mention of this
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: and how much hey they've made with this, is that
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: they used it as fuel for adolescence, in which right,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: so you have this is the killer. Adolescence portrayed a
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: little boy like this, only white as the killer, and
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: the reason was different and the behavior was different, and
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: they made it all about him being radicalized by the
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: manisphere so there's been a sustained effort to uh to
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: translate actual rout of Bega's behavior into rude begas really
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: don't deserve that. They're actually pretty good. They're kind of tasty,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: but you have to roast them first. But uh yeah,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: they're they're gonna translate. This guy is complete insanity, like
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: he's obviously fucked up in the head. Two people talking
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: about human rights and human behavior.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: There was also one called brand and he was a
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: white guy that when I'm a step in spree a
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago, if you.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: Remember that one, you're gonna have to narrow that down
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: a bit. My dude.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: He was He was like a white guy. He was
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: named it was named it was named Brandon.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: In New Zealand, not in England.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: It was in England, so it wasn't It was in Portsmouth.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: The established took place in Portsmouth.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Give me a minute, are you talking about on a train?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: No? He just stat random people. So he stabbed his mom,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: he left the house. Then he said a couple of people.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Then he was arrested.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm Brandon Hayne.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: I think so it was like a fat white guy
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: that related the same, is he?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: It's just the thing that happened.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty he was an adult.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did that. He walked in. He walked in,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: he walked in a supermarket.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now they didn't use him, probably because he was
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: an adult. Although I guess at the time of the
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: crime this guy was like what seventeen, mister scary face.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: I guess he was trying to make a scary face
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: in that mugshot's trying to Yeah, he really did. He
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: looks like you offered him a piece of candy and
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: then it turned out to be like an extreme warhead.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: The warhead candies are extremely sour. I don't know if
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: they sell them in the UK. They probably sell an equivalent,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: but uh, they're not even as sour as they used
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: to be back.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: In the day.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Because I had one not too long ago, and it
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: was it was not that bad. But that's he looks like,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you offered him something something yummy and sweet
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: and then had him take a mouthful of living or something.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's clearly a disturbed individual that his
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: being disturbed had nothing to do with anything he saw
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: on TV or heard in the media. He was just
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: a disturbed individual and then he sought out more disturbing
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: material to hone. How disturbed he was in the way
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: he was disturbed, I guess, But the committee said online
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: spaces play a central role in changing the nature of
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: an extremist threat. Like if this guy hadn't been able
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: to find the stuff he was looking for online, he
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to try to do anything to anybody. He
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: just all of the statements that I see about him
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: in the court pretty well indicate that that he was
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: going to be violent regardless. But but they want to
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: use him, so they're going to use him, right. They
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: found social media and gaming platforms, online forums, influencers, and
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: creative tools such as memes. Oh no, guys, you have
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: to watch out for the memesh.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: The Stebends took place in Plymouth and the name and
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: his name was Jack Davison. Okay, oh take Jake Davison.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 5: It was a Plymouth so yeah, hello, yeah, I'm I'm here.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just then he was an adult to twenty two
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: year old man.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Again not an extremist kid.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: But he just had the mom that was nagging him
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: a bit too much.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: So there you go. But obviously another the disturbed individual
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: because Honestly, most people's moms nagged them a bit too much.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: I'm guilty, and they don't go around stabbing anybody. So
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: clearly the problem was with the individual and not with
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: the like. Just like and there are there are thousands
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: of in cells, but only sixty six referrals kind of
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: indicates that that that that whole narrative about in cells
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: being an extremist culture is kind of bullshit.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: And we get we get harassed by journalists and we
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: get duckst a lot. Yeah, that's this journalist called b
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: x us in celts a lot as well.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: There's one that I saw. We're we're actually gonna do
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: a discussion about it. Some chick on on X wanting
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: to interview in cells. Didn't say anything about herself, didn't
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: give any information, just asked are you an in cell?
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Are you willing to talk to me for an article
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: about what people get wrong about the in cell subculture?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Please get in contact, d ms are open.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: While ago didn't, I yeah, she.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: She got a lot of responses. We're gonna look at
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: some of those on the after show because the I
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: don't think she got taken very seriously.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Anymore because of what happens in the past.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it makes sense.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's this person called b X on Twitter insults
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: as well. A couple of your guys talk to her
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: as well. Uh my, the main insult person, she arrested
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: him and she dogs him, but she doesn't go she
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't go after Califia for some reason.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's really strange.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Because the guy who wants the guy who wants the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: inel count is black, and I think and I think
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: that's why she she went after him.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: Mmm, it could be, it could be. I Uh, I
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: talked to her a bit in the beginning kind of
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: after uh the the in cell project kind of fell
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: apart because she was talking about what happened to her,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: and I thought maybe I could get in some information
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: too to help her. But b X didn't have any information,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: any real information on her.
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  Speaker 2: Soa b X is one of those I think she's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: a I think she's like a narcissist, allegedly, I'm saying
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: it allegedly.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Well, well, you always also said I think, which makes
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: it an opinion. So but it's it's hard to tell.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: And I, like I said, I, I really haven't had
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of contact with her since then because she
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: she didn't have the information that I was looking for,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: and she didn't didn't She wasn't very good at communicating
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: back and forth, so I didn't try to. I didn't
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: try to get her on but or at least not
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: after the first few times I communicated with her. But
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: it goes on. Let's see. They found social media and
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: gaming platforms, online forums, influencers, and creative tools such as
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: memes humor. So humor is now a tool of extremism.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: If if you do something funny and people laugh, you're
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: a baddie.
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  Speaker 2: Now apologies for being funny.
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  Speaker 1: Allegedly a coded messaging make extremist narratives easily accessible and
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: highly engaging, particularly for younger audiences. Adam Hadley, executive director
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: of the Tech at the Tech Against Terrorism Group TAT,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: underline the significance of online tackling online harms. So if
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: they have feminists working with Tech against Terrorism, will that
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: be tit for TAT? Basically yeah, he told the committee.
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  Speaker 1: We know that in every year, almost every case of
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: terrorism in this country over the past five years, the
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: Internet has played a fundamental role, not an incidental role.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: It has been fundamental. I need to be able to
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: mimic don notts for this.
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  Speaker 2: What is incidental meandent.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Is like kind of coincidental. Incidental means it's it's there,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: but it's not really uh ah an underlying cause. It
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: might have been a contributing factor, or it might have
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: been a result. Uh it might be related, but it's
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: not important. Right. Whereas the fundamental thing that that indicates
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: that it's because of their online activity that they engaged
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: in this type of terrorism over the last five years.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: But mostly on the forums. It's just that they elementing
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: what could have been or what or what or what
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: they can do to be better, So they're still like
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: terrorist one of the.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Firms that's you say, they just tell women what they
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: could do you to be better.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they talk amongst themselves and what they can improve.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: They tell each other what they could do. That's even worse.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: And say it's it's we get told all the time
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: that it's harassment and misogynistic and it's gender based violence
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: to tell women what they could do to be better,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: but for men to prove themselves it's even worse.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: I guess we had the base was upsessed with the
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: form and I think she was on there, but I
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: think she was bad and the IP addressels band, so
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: she can't make a new account.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Well, that definitely will keep her out unless uh unless
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: she goes and there's there's ways to get around that.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: I definitely I don't think she's that intelligent to do that.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I didn't get
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: enough information to be able to make that kind of assessment.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: But what I what I do know is that somebody's
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: really determined to get into a forum, an IP band
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: won't stop them. But unless unless they don't know anything
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: about computers and IPS and so on, or maybe they're broke.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: And every time when you, as in celt dookmentary comes out,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: it gets detos attacked as well. That's every time in
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: your intelt documentary comes out, the.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: Forum gets d d used. Yeah, every Yeah, essentially, Uh,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: it would be like a d das everybody going to
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: check it out. Look at the train wreck or whatever.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: We've had that happen a few times. It's stuff, stuff
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: gets published about the men's rights movement and they talk
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: about the honey Badger Brigade, or we get featured in
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: an article which we haven't in a long time. But
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: I mean the last time we were featured in anything
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: moderately establishment level, we basically got dtossed by people looking
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: for the train wreck and we ended up. It actually
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: caused us to have to sort of reboot the the blog.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: One time. We thought we were going to lose all
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: our articles, but we didn't. I went through and archived
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: everything on the damn site, at least everything that wasn't
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: just a show link, and it actually was completely unnecessary.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: I spent like three days doing that and it was
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: completely unnecessary. But in any case, so we are at
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I think this is the end of the article. Yep,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: he told the committee. We know that internet has played
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: an incidental role, not fundamental, or it has been fundamental.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Yet our understanding of that journey, what sites people have
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: been on and what content they have consumed, is extremely poor.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: And here's where they have buried what they really want.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: They don't want you to have privacy. They want your
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: browsers spying on you. They want your IP address spying
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: on you. They want your ID attached to your usage
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: so that you can be spied on. And if you
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: say anything that is politically against the current establishment, you
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: can then be penalized. And it won't be about what
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: your thoughts are on women in a year. It won't
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: be about what your thoughts are about any particular religious
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: group or racial demographic or anything else like that. It'll
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: be do you comply with the government? Do you support
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: the party that is in power? Because if you don't,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: then they'll come after you. That's what that'll be about.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: But just like any other time they're using women are
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: in danger massagyny. This extremism is a threat to women.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Men talk about their own self interests. Oh my god,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: women most affected. In order to pave the way, scare
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: enough people to suggest that, gosh, we're gonna have to
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: impose more controls on the Internet. We're gonna have to
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: set it up so that not only do people not
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: have anonymity when they're speaking on the internet, but they
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: can't have anonymity when they're looking and listening either. So
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: if you open up a video, you're local law enforcement
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: might get an alert, right if you read a meme,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: If you look at a meme and see the image,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: they might get an alert. If you friend the wrong
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: person on social media and that person has engaged in
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of wrong video watching or wrong news site
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: reading they might get an alert on you. That's what
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do. That's what they're trying to set up,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: and that's what articles like this are about. They don't
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: care about in cells, they don't care about pick up artists,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: they don't care about women. They care about being able
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: to micromanage your mind. And that's why we're here. We
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: want to point out what they're doing so that you're
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: aware of it while you still have a chance to
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: do something about it. And with that we have reached
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: the end of the article. And I will notice, like
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: the first comment, so all of that waffle and lefty
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: propaganda is down to Home Affairs Committee report. No surprise then,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: So it seems like it's not working on everybody, but
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: hopefully it's not working on very many people at all.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: In meantime, I will thank everybody for listening. That is
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: our article. I want to see if I have any
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: further super chows we have dark Kiki Mora gave us
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: two hundred dollars. Thank you very much for that, and
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: said doc in response to your theory about men preferring
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: dolls and women preferring math puzzles and video games, do
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: you think if you are a more hardcore, hardcore retro
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: gamer when you play eight bit games instead of sixty
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: sixteen bit games. That women were more hardcore games in
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, when fourteen percent of sn and ES
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: players were women, but forty six percent of Game Boy
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: OGJ game Boy players were female. I'm asking Retrogamer to Retrogamer,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: not MRA to MRA. Changing Mama from Daky Doaky panic
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: to Luigi was misogynistic erasure of an empowered Arabic women.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: Women and feminists don't care because they don't believe in
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: empowered Arabic women. Feminists should sacrifice their B button run
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: for women, and the manisphere should stop making fun of
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: short men via added must room mechanics in SMB two
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: USA because there's a better FDS out there than female
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: dating strategy. Apply free hat principles to video games, and
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: I hope two hundred dollars covers this. Now that you
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: talked about Nintendo like ten minutes ago, jeez, Pete doc,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: you got a response.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, I did four references ago? Was that whole rent?
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: Like the whole like one hole? Yeah?
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Should I I'll post it in aun chat?
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Please do. I I had a really good response
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: points ago, but then yeah, Solid loaded another four or
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: five points on top of that, and then I was like, well,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: I'm drunk, Hello, ladies and gentlemen, I am daughter, and
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: I'm drunk, and I am unable to remember all of
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: the things you said just now.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So I have posted it in our chat.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: It's a long one.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a giant or a text.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well the whole time I was sitting there thinking,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: you know, that's that's retrogaming, right, But I grew up
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: on pac Man and and Deemon Attack the Warlords, Pong.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: Space and Vedus Space Invaders.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was like one of my favorites. We
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: had that. We had the Atari twenty six hundred with
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: yep with the joystick. And although my absolute favorite game
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: was a puzzle game. It was called Adventure and you
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: played a pixel. You were dot and you could pick
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: things up and you would only pick one thing up
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: at a time. You had to get a key and
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: open a palace and go in there and get the
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Golden Chalice. But to do that you had to go
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: into other palaces and get objects in there to get
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: the key. And the other thing was there were three dragons.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: There was an aggressive red dragon, there was a crazy
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: yellow dragon that just went everywhere, and there was a
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: green dragon. It would still chase you, but like it
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily chase you, follow you from room to room,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: but the red dragon would. And so you had to
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: navigate well avoiding these dragons because if you touched the dragon,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: it ate you and you died. And you could pick
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: up and carry the dead dragons too sometimes. So yeah,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: it was it was really my favorite game, and it
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: had It was my first time discovering an Easter egg.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: I found a secret room online, so that's I was
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: the only kid in the neighborhood that that found that room.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: And I thought about telling the other kids, and then
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: I thought, no, if I tell them, then they'll never
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: find out if they could find it or not. And
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: come to find out, when I got older, most people
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: didn't find that room. So, but Mike, have you made
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: sense of the wall of text?
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: No, I've been here trying to kill my hack cups
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: for the last ten minutes.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: Oh that great.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: Continue, Yeah, we'll just have to well to skip it.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: You'll have to uh give an answer to this in
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: the next episode. We'll call it a Cliffhanger.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Right next time on the HBO talk yep. And a
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: bunch of clips of things, A bunch of clips of
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: things exploded.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: So I have one more thing right, Uh, this post
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: by Paul Elim, which I found today. I'm on and
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: off of social media, and this was one of my
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: on moments. Uh. This is for an event, so you'll
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: have to watch his account. This is his name on
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: X right here, uh real at real Paul Elim because
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: his older accounts have had been had been suspended on Twitter,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: but I think he still has I think he has
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: those back now. An ear for men and a voice
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: for men. Either way, this is the account to follow,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: Paul Elim and this event May thirteen. Starting May thirteen,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: Repairing the Manisphere goes live on X that's before my
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: birthday yep, eight pm Eastern. So my assumption is that
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a regular, regular stream, and
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: I recommend that you should listen if you get the opportunity,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: because he definitely will have some words of wisdom and
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of this. This point right here is very important.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: The original Manisphere was the men's rights movement and men
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: going their own way pick up artists and you and
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: at that original time really didn't have any association with
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: red pill anything, and they didn't talk about it that way.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: And even trad cons really weren't like they would call
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: themselves red pilled because we did, because we called ourselves
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: red pilled. But the stuff they were talking about was
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: more traditional bullshit, not not actual seeing through the way things.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: And a lot of them are pretty blue pilled on
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: women even now. A lot of them think that if
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: you you know, and as much as I say to
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: vet women for character, I disagree with this, but a
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: lot of them think that if you vet a woman
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: for character, you're guaranteed that she's not going to betray you.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: My point when I suggest vetting women for character is
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: that there's a better chance that she's not going to
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: betray you, significantly better if she has if she she's
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: more masculine in some ways, like she's if she wants money,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: she goes out and gets a job and earns it right,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: and if she sees a problem, she starts doing things
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: to fix it instead of calling someone else for help.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: Unless she had she realizes that it needs expertise like
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: an electrician or a doctor, and she's not those things.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: Then she knows to rely on an expert, right, whereas
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: most women will call for help at the drop of
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: a pin. But then they'll try to fix complicated things
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: that they don't have the knowledge to fix, especially when
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: it comes to like medical shit, and they'll give the
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: worst advice. So you do want to vet women for
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: character if you're going to be in relationships with women,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: But you still you still have to be prepared that
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: you know, a woman who seems trustworthy might be a
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: lot less trustworthy than she really is. And the difficult
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: thing is women are constantly bombarded with influence by the
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: lowest common denominators among women. They're constantly bombarded with messages
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: about men, about you in particular, and the men around you,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: all the men in the world, but they're female friends.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: The women in their lives are going to tell her
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: everything you do is wrong or bad or mean or whatever.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: And she has to be strong enough and tough enough.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: She has to be a strong independent woman who don't
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: need no gossip queens. Right, she can't be a strong
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: independent woman who don't need no man. It's important that
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: she needs you, but it's also important that she doesn't
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: need them, and she doesn't put up with their bullshit.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: But I think a lot of times trad cons miss that.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: Trad cons miss the fact that women will drag each
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: other down like crab in a bucket syndrome. Women will
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: destroy each other's relationships, especially if theirs have fallen apart.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: Women will demonize you to your wife or girlfriend in
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: an effort at making her as unsuccessful at relationships as
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: they are, and whether her character changes are not because
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: of that, it's all. It all depends on her strength.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: So vetting is limited better than not vetting, but it's
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: still limited. And I think it's one of the failures
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: of the trad con end of the red pill oh
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: sphere is that they blame the man When a woman
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years down the line who seemed wise
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: and was appearing to have good character slowly deteriorates and
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: becomes an evil, fucking cunt and divorces him and takes
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: his kids and bankrupts him. It's his fault for not
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: seeing that she would do that, when in reality, if
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: she would do it, any woman might so on that
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: lovely little nearly nearly gray or nearly black gray pill, right,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: I think that that's pretty much everything I'm gonna say
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: about it, but definitely check this out because it is
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: going to be good. No more super Chats, no more
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: super chows. I don't think I missed any super chats
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: this time. I have missed super chats in the past
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: couple of shows, but I'm like, as I'm scrolling through,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: I don't see a single one. So we will be
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: ending it here. No normal rants, So thanks everybody, and
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: good night. All Men's Right activists are machines, dude,