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Ep. 162 - Behind The Mask: The Rise Of Leslie Vernon (2006) · Frightmares

• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Look at the size of this thing. To look at that.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the titles are just getting bigger and bigger. It's
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: starting to read like a Fallout Boy song.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: The title is so insane behind the mask colon the
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Rise of Leslie Vernon. It's the longest title we've had
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: on our little boy over here.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm speaking of this weather. If we have
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: to destroy Tampa to keep the weather like this, like
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: I'm game, I'm fine, wipe it off the map. They're
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: on the coast, it's fine, They'll just move inland probably. Uh.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the weather's been great. I woke up today. It's
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: been I don't know, eighties ish recently so, and then
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: today it was like fifty nine. I'm like, dude, it
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: needs some warning.
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  Speaker 2: Man. It has been so nice that last night when
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: it started getting chilly, I opened up all my windows. Yeah,
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: and the best the way that my house sits never
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: gets wind ever. Oh really, but that hurricane blew through
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: and changed up the winds. So now, from like I
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: don't know midnight last night till still right now, windows open,
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: it's great. Ast fucking shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super nice. It's just like I love the
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: cold weather and I don't mind it at all. I
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: just would like some transition as opposed to yesterday being
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: eighties and then today it was like, she're like, and
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: then it's that Florida cold too, which is super windy
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: and very humid.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like it's like it's like biting chill.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's super cold Florida cole to something else.
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  Speaker 1: But it has been nice. I did open the windows
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: at some point today. Ac hasn't gone below like seventy
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  Speaker 1: two to day. It's been super nice in here are
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: out there, and also in here now too. Since we've
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: changed the lighting a bit, it's a little bit less harsh,
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  Speaker 1: except for that one. Gotta figure out what to do
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  Speaker 1: with that. But yeah, I like the LEDs everywhere. I'm
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: going orange for October. I can have like a whole
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: array of things. I can change it too, fancy pants.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Big boy remote too. I know normally you just get
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: the light. I know it came from Amazon. I was like,
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 1: It's got like twenty seven or twenty four colors, it's
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: got fading and you know, if you want to have
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: a seizure real quick, you can make the lights of dance.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not doing all that. That's too much.
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  Speaker 2: You can you can take the raver away from the rave,
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: but you can never.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: Take never follow me every yeah, follows me everywhere. But yeah,
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: there's been some new additions to the studio too. I've
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: got this little uh tripod slash ring light for making TikTok,
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: so it points right at Sam and gets Jason in
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  Speaker 1: the background and then also gets some of my Blu
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  Speaker 1: rays and then over there where you're sitting, I added
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: a little clamp for a phone and a light so
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  Speaker 1: I can take pictures of my new screen factory releases
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  Speaker 1: over there. So I've got all these new little places
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  Speaker 1: in the studio. It's only taken forever. But and now
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: since I've got so I got these two new things.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw those, but now I
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  Speaker 1: have all this room above these because the other ones
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: I had were taller and oh yeah, and these are
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit shorter, and I'm like, no, I gotta
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: put posters up there, but frames are so fucking expense expensive.
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: I gotta wait till Joe and is like, boy, I
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: wouldn't get one free, and I'm like, that's when I
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  Speaker 1: hop on that shit, but slowly but surely this is
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  Speaker 1: coming together. I think I'm gonna get some foam to
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: go up top as well, but it's definitely coming together.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: Hanging memorabilia from the ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna get those things I saw on TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, there are candles that are controlled by remote
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: that you just hang from fishing wires, so it'll look
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  Speaker 1: like fucking hogwarts up in this bitch with floating candles.
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  Speaker 2: I figured you would do like chains all lie hell
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  Speaker 2: razor and hang stuff from that. I do have shapes.
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  Speaker 1: Je fucking prop master over here, Jesus, now, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. I was like, I have
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  Speaker 1: like three or four of these. I'm like, can I
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: just hang these from the ceiling out razor style? Maybe
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  Speaker 1: maybe had some big fake hooks to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, do that. I can totally do that. Or you
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  Speaker 2: could like put wire around it and like hang I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, take a few things, take a few funkos
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  Speaker 2: out and hang them from the neck or something. Just
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  Speaker 2: have fun with it.
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  Speaker 1: I know Fred is usually up there in the corner,
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  Speaker 1: but since it's spooky season, I have him in my
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  Speaker 1: car to freak out anybody that I drive past. I
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: was like where is yeah, and then this, and then
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: saying with the skeleton, we had to use him for
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: the front. Oh were the lights on when you pulled up?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think some of them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll put them on free leave. We're doing Camp
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  Speaker 1: Crystal Lake this year as the theme, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: as a Sackadjason from Part two. So I've got my overalls,
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  Speaker 1: my shirt, my fucking giant dude. Look at this, like
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: feel like feel this fucking act. It's like a legit
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: foam pick axe.
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  Speaker 2: It is legit. Yeah, I wouldn't want to get hit
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  Speaker 2: with it. I ordered it. It was like twenty nine bucks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it'll probably be like a handheld one
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: and probably won't be that probably probably pretty flims. You'll
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: just return it and I got it. I'm like, I'm
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: fucking mountainous on the wall. When I'm done with it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah for sure. So this year should be fun
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: for Trigger Tree. Just dirty it up a little bit
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  Speaker 2: so it's a little less shiny. Yeah, it'll it'll be
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  Speaker 2: a real nice wall.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: I gotta go like rolling the dirt and all my
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: clothes too, and like get some stand paper and fucking
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: scuff it up because I posted. I posted the costume
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: without the mask onto a couple of horror groups and
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: people were like, oh, what are you like a very
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: clean Jason, and I'm like, listen, I still gonna dirty
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: it up and throw blood all over it.
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  Speaker 2: All I got. I got a lot. I saw a
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: lot of my bloody Valentines in there. Yeah that too.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I also got a prospector Pete from toy Story and
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, guys, I'm not.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: Putting that all color scheme. It is.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: He has a red shirt with a fucking cowboy hat
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: and a big gray beard. But I thought it was funny.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of I got. I got hipster
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: Farmers one, and I'm like, that's yeah, nailed it. I
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: think people were just fu Yeah, I think they were
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: just fucking around. But it should be a good she'd
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  Speaker 1: be a good Halloween. This year. We have a like
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: a party setup for We're having some family come over
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  Speaker 1: with their kids and they're gonna do some trigger treating here.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why this is like a primo fucking neighborhood
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  Speaker 2: for this is this is a full bar neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I'm not trigger treating. I should though,
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: but we also just added a whole new addition back there.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: They're doing a Phase two with like another one hundred
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: and fifty houses. So next time, like this time next year,
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: we'll have even more trigger treaters.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, no, this, this it's gonna
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: get way bigger. It's gonna go deep. It's gonna go deep.
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  Speaker 1: Back there, we had so many trigger treaters last year,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I dressed up. So since we're doing
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: Camp Crystal Lake and I'm Jason, Gabby's just gonna be
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  Speaker 1: She's got a Crystal Counselor T shirt, she's gonna throw
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  Speaker 1: some blood on it, and she's got like the big high.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: Socks and stuff. Are you gonna do the classic because
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: your your costume is good enough to wear, Like if
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: you sat real ill, you could be like, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna set up my camera on the side somewhere
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sit with the bowl. You know, it's
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: just take one and then you know, do the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to scare the kids, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta induce just a little bit of
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: Halloween trauma just a little bit, like like like they
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: gotta be like, yo, like this dude, like he's gonna
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: do some ship to you when you fucking go to
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  Speaker 2: his house on Halloween.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: You might Yeah, you never know what to expect, trick
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  Speaker 1: or treat on him. No, he's gonna I'm gonna I'm
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: gonna trick you into thinking that it's a well. I
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: also have to fill up my sleeves and stuff to
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: kind of puff myself out to make it look like
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  Speaker 1: I'm a scarecrow because I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 1: pull it off just sitting there. I don't know what
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: to put a hoodie on under it?
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah that'll work really.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Kind of buffet out a bit. But yeah, that's so funny.
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  Speaker 1: I told I told that the gap and she's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: just don't like like traumatize me. I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit, you know. Uh So that
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  Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: Halloween this year as I am every year. Now that
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  Speaker 1: I have kids to give candy too, It's a whole
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  Speaker 1: different world when kids come to your door. Because in
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: my old neighborhood with my parents, like after a while
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  Speaker 1: all the kids in that neighborhood grew up and left.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, no one's trigger treating. And I
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  Speaker 1: got really, you know, I got sad. I was like
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: going to hand out candy because I'm too old to
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  Speaker 1: go trigger treating. I got turned down the last year
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: I went trigger trading because they were like, you're too old.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, you just give me candy. Everyone's
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: there to get candy.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: You gotta go to Balden Park or celebration. Celebration really
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, really right outside of Disney Bro. Like if
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: you catch it at just the right time, the right
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: section neighborhood, they'll hand you like dollar bills. That sounds
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: about right.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we're that fancy here, but
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: that sounds about right. Oh yeah, you know what, now
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: that you mentioned that, I think I saw something last
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: year where they have maybe not Celebration, but out that
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: way they have this one street that has like this
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: insane light show with this one. I think that might
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: be out there somewhere. I saw the video of it.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: They do like the uh music to all the lights
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: and shit. They Yeah, I don't know how people do that.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do that until I looked into
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: it and I was like, there's no way, No, there
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: is no way. You have to be a fucking brilliant
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: bastard to do that that or you have to pay
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: some money. Yeah, you have to literally code everything, you
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: have to time everything, do the sinking yourself.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's no, I can't do that.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: I was gonna try that, but yeah, no, no, it's
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. It is not like a oh, let me
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: go on YouTube and learn this. No, you have to
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: be really good, which way to be sad?
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn it.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we usually go all out every year. Now
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: that we have a house in the front yard, we
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: kind of do it bigger and better each year. But
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  Speaker 1: it sucks because we set the bar so high last year.
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  Speaker 1: People are like they were literally coming by our house
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: before while we were decorated, like.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to see what you've got. I'm like, yeah, yeah, pressure.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: I vaguely remember it last year, but I do remember
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: being like, oh, okay.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty much just throw a bunch of lights
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: on the porch, a bunch of pumpkins, a couple of skeletons,
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: and then those little projector lamps.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: Good to go. I'm just I'm just waiting for you
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: all to become like the Halloween inflatable people. No, we
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: know we are.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: We are standing against the like maybe like one or two,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: but like, there's dude, there's a one house on the
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: corner that has like five in the front yard, two
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: on their patio on the second deck, and then one
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: leaning over their fence. I'm like, guys, what about what.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: About a fifteen foot tall skeleton?
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: I would love to do that, but I don't know
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: if I don't know if this neighborhood was like, I
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: don't know if they're cool with it. They're kind of
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: picky with things. But there is that that person does
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: have that fifteen foot fucking you saw the pumpkin when
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: you drove? Oh yeah yeah, things like fifteen feet. So
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I could get away with the skeleton, which
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: I might buy next year because that would be the
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: coolest thing, especially being on the corner and shit like that.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: So oh yeah. And then and then what you do
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: is you get like two two by fours and you
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: nail them together, and then you sharp sharpen one of
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: the edges and you put the up in through the skeleton,
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: so it looks like it's on a giant spikee oh.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: My god, that would be fucking epic. Okay, if I
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: get the skeleton, I'm gonna hire you and you will come.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: You will come help and we'll make this thing crazy.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I've I've always wanted that skeleton since I
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: saw the first time. So do you normally have trigger Well,
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: you're okay, you're so yeah, you're not at your parents anymore,
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: but you're down the street, so.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Do you I'm not down I'm like a few miles
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, close though, yeah, same zip code? Do
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: you have trigger treaters that that? Did you? Were you
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: there last year? For how? I was okay? Uh so yes,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: But also no, because I don't turn my light on
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: because first off, there are so many children, Like, there's
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of fucking kids in my neighborhood and they're
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: loud yah the time. But see, the thing is is
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: like they're loud in a circle of like two story
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: town homes, so it just bounces everywhere. No, So last
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: year I didn't turn my light on, so they shouldn't
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: have come to my door. And for like a solid
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: two hour, it was like really, yeah, and I just
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: ignored it.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Who's raising these kids? You don't go to a porch
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: where the light's not on?
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: No, Okay, so here's the thing. Maybe they thought it
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: was broken. No, So here's the thing. These kids. I
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: don't know what's wrong with kids today. Dang' afraid of nothing? Really, man,
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: There's this one kid that is so trying to be
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: on a first name basis with me. He just wants
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: to be my friend and I am not having it.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: He is like nine years old. He was walking by
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: one day and he like shot me with a squirre
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: gun and then he's like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm like, nah,
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: it's cool, it's whatever. So he kept shooting me with it,
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: and I didn't like shoe him away. So now every
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: time he sees me, he's like, hey, what's up, man, Yo,
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: check out this rock? And I'm like, yeah, that's cool, man,
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: swagg I gotta go. So, like, I know, he was
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: one of the ones that was knocking on my door man,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: And then I found some cats once and I gave
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: them back, and then the little girl was super nice
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: to me, So I'm pretty sure she knocked on my
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: door too. But like my fucking candy, Yeah, my candy.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: I want to hand the candy out me and I'm
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: not I'm not in a handing out candy tax bracket
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: It's shipped, dude. It's so expensive too. We would just
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: buy a bag and I was like fifteen bucks for
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: like sixty pieces with.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: The ship that I'm await this. I'm a wait until
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: four days after Halloween and go get all of my
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: discounted candy and be fat.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: And happy'd be good. Yeah, that's the problem with us.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: That was since we've been handing out candy for the
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: past two years, is well, buy the candy, put it
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: into the bowl, and then be like, there's candy in
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: the house. Now, must eat, must eat the candy. Backing
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: snacking because we get the good shit, you know, Reese's kid, cats,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: blow Pops, sour patch, stuff like that. Like, we get
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: the good stuff that we like to hand out, and
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: then we end up just eating most of it. And
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: last year we had a whole bunch left over. So
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: this year instead of letting the kids cause dude, it
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: was it was so interesting to like when I put
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: the bowl down for the kids to take, they would
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: just take like one or two. I'm like, fucking get
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: a handful of shit. So I would just take my
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: giant hand and be like, dude takes them like you
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: guys can take more than one.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: So where does this household stand on candy corn?
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not I'm not for it, not for it.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: I am, though, going to try it again this year,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: I told myself, because I've always hated it, but I
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: am going to give it another shot this year and
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: try it to see if maybe my palett's change, because
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I know that's the thing, So stay stay tuned on
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: so Okay, So but as of right now, so here's the.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Best thing I can equate it to in my adult brain.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Do you like fond on icing? No? Okay, yeah that
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: so there there's the hang up. It's basically just like
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: fond on ice.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I like that, but it's also
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: it's also can be if it's not done right, then
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: it's very heavy.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: And are so so secondarily on candy corn because this
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: is a thing that I grew up around and I
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: don't know if this is just a my life was
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: weird type thing. Okay, there was always a house that
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: had a bowl of fucking candy corn and out, and
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: it was just loose candy corners, like take it, put
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: it in your bag, like it's sure.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: That probably because it was also the nineties, so we
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: weren't worried about finding weed and razor blades in our
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: candy your stuff.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Nobody is giving away weed. Oh yeah. Me and Gabby
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: talked about that's not a thing. That's a myth. There's
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: never been a single guy. The one police report the
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: guy gave it to his own child to try and
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: collect life support or life insurance on and it was
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: a pixie stick that he puts cyanide in.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's different.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Me Gabby talked about this two episodes ago, where like
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: stoners are not gonna spend all that money to throw
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: that away?
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and then I saw said the news reports are
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: already kicking off. I saw one that was like be
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: careful of fentanyl laced candy, and I'm like, no, that's
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: not so hard to get. Yeah, it's so expensive, and
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no drug dealer once. Children are the worst
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: drug market. You know why they got money? Why would
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: we hand it away to them? Yeah? You think little
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Timmy's gonna come back with his five hard earned dollars
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: of allowance money for that smack.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: No way, no way, it's bad for business.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they also can't drive, they can't get to you.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: They can't.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, there's no way unless you're unless you're deranged,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna be doing that and handing out candy
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: like that. But it is weird how that's changed over time,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: because back when I was a kid, no one give
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: a fuck. But now that times are changing, lunatics are
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: out there, it's like, wow, we have to really, we do,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: really need to, like pay attention.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I would be I would be more worried about like
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: actual needles now.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not drugs, No, not drugs, not at all, but.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Like like weapons, razors and like I always heard, oh,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: be careful razor blades in the candy are her I'm like, yeah,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: what the fuck ever? But nowadays I'm like, Okay, maybe
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: a broken needle in Snickers.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I could see that on the hinge. Son of a
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: bitch is just out there ruining the world. But yeah,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about drugs.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: That's at the end of the day. It still checking kids. Yeah,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: like can't hurt to be safe.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously check it, but you know, but don't pay
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: for it. Don't pay for the kids.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, don't get like your local hospital will X
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: ray your candy. Oh really, but they'll charge you for it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: It's like twenty five bucks, but they'll charge you for it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Don't do that. Okay, your police station will do it
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: for free.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go, spitting facts. I had no idea
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: that was the thing. Halloween safety, Halloween safety. Yeah, I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: cannot wait for this.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: It's the twenty Oh no, it's the nineteenth. I'm way
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: ahead of myself.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It's like Halloween's the thirty first.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: My dad, we got like twelve more days till Halloween,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: and so that'll be a lot of fun.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Have you we briefly mentioned hell Razer, Did you see that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Yet or no?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I have not? Okay, So I am waiting until the
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: end of thirty one days just because so I'm gonna
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: try and do my rankings all at the end, like
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: on Halloween, because I try and do that every year,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm like two or three movies behind the movement.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, segue into that. How's that going, by the way,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Mean, so so far, not a miss like, I have
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: not any that I haven't like, at least baseline enjoyed.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: So that's a when. Yeah, Like that's a when.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so far everything's been a like, uh, I mean
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: to be fair, be like two point seven five to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: three and a half.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always some solid movies, ye, little gap there,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: so it's not surprising that you're you're finding some good ones.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Well that's good to hear. Let's see, uh, anything that
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: stood out over the over the course of the past
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: nineteen days.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny? Is it? A lot of it
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: has kind of just blended to because Blumhouse stuff is
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: very it has a lot of very similar flavors in
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the air of it. So no, not, it's really been
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the stuff that I've been like watching outside of as
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: like a Okay, I can't do any more House, let
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: me go watch something else something so like like, uh,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the one that I was telling you about, I think
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: like last week or two weeks ago, Spell, Oh yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that was it was so good. It was, it was
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: really good. I had a lot of fun with it
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: because it gives it gives you a lot of like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: uh skeleton key vibes.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you said it was like Skeleton Key mixed
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: with two other things, and I can't remember what the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: two other things are.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But it's really cool because as it goes on, you
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: feel almost for like a half second sympathetic with the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: antagonist until it's you get the reveal like five seconds
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: later what's going on? Then you're like, oh shit, never mind.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Fuck those people, okay, which.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: It's it's a super talented all black castout right. Yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it was on Paramount.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Oh you said Skeleton Key meets Misery.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Misery, Yeah, there we got. Oh yeah, which is a
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: very interesting combination like that. And there's actually a very
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: specific reason I say misery. If you go watch the
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: movie about like forty minutes and you'll be like, oh,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And then I also finally saw Orphan First Kill. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: what do you think? Oh it's fucking just the last one, dude.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I never thought they could ever pull that off. And
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the twist happens and I'm just like, son of how did.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: They do that? Yeah? And it's just a yeah, well,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: not only is it all downhill, but like the absolute
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: perfect circle of like movie lore, movie lore cycle feedback
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that happens. It's it's actually.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: It was like, the best way to do a sequel
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: if they are a prequel, if they decide.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: To do any other thing in that franchise, I'm a
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: fight whoever is directing it, because it doesn't need to happen.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I heard it was rumored that they might, but I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is what you've done so far.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You've made a movie from I think it's like two
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine fucking solid four stars for me, right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and then you came back like ten years later, You're like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do this again. And I was like, I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: kind of worried about that because she was a younger
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: playing an older girl. Now she's older playing a younger girl.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And then they just knocked it out of the park
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: because completely blew my socks off. I was like, and it,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: holy shit, don't touch any more of this, leave it alone.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And it was leaving. And what was so bizarre about
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: it was I was watching the movie and I was like,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: this is the exact same goddamn movie. Yeah, Like this
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: is literally beat for beat. It's almost the first movie.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, but why is it so good? Yeah?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And it's like twenty minutes shorter too, which is impressive.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Usually when you do sequels, you know, typically they are
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: usually longer for the most part, but this one, I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: think the first Orphan's almost two hours. This is like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: an hour and a half. I'm like, that is the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: perfect way to do a sequel. Cut it down to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: ninety minute really being ba boom, you're in and out. Plus,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Julia Stiles is fucking amazing. She was so good. She's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: very talented. I like her in anything. She does so good.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you saw that you liked it. What else
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: is new? Let's see my thirty one days of horror.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: What did I last leave off with? I think it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was dead no.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Squirm, so I've been following that journey on the Yes, oh.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I got so after a squirm. We had x or.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: We had exorses too, which I gave two stars. It
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: was bad. Too many locusts, so I too many locus.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You gotta tell you have to indulge me for like
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: two minutes talk about this movie.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: To me, there was like a fucking masterpiece of a movie,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: like waiting to break out inside that film. I mean,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you've got fucking uh oh my god, what's his name?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: James Earl Jones, you got Linda Blair returning, But they
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: just completely shit the bed with the story because they're
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: talking about how the priest died at the end of
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that movie, but they they weren't. They weren't dead in
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: this one, or something something happened to where they completely
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: changed the ending of the first one.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: You're like, why did you not make it just about
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: anything else?
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: You could have made it, Like they're seriously, there was
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: such a brilliant movie in there, just like begging to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: be released, and they just completely ship the bed, fucked
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: up the original material and just did not do it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: The way they should have. No, Oh my god. And
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the Locus what is that so many? Why are we so.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Obsessed with Locus? Also the flashbacks to like whatever time
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: that was. They they literally went back to that time
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: half the movie the movies flashbacks, and you're like, why
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: can't dude, they could have had such a good premise,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like investigate the death of the of the priest who
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was performing the exorcism on Reagan, Like that's cool. But
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, how did it get.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Back in her?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: They they cleared her in the first one. The devil
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: was Bazuzu? Was they got it out right? Or am
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I misremembering what happened?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: No, So the argument is that the reason uh Puzuzu
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: comes back is he didn't actually get like fully exercised,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that he went into the body of father, what's his
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: faces dead mom for a little bit and then came back.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a whole thing.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: But is that explained? No, it's just theory. It's just
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a theorist. It's just a theory, an game theory. Thanks
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: for watching it was Yeah, it's just like when you
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: start off on the note of ruining the original ending
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of a movie that like changed horror cinema forever. It's like,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and I think it was like ten to fifteen years
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: later because Exorcist was like sixty.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: When was Exorcist was.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Extras to the seventh seventies, I think Extorsist was like sixty.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like sixty seventy three, Okay, we're
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: both wait Jesus, and then Exoruses two was seventy seven, Okay,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: so it's only four years difference. So yeah, I just
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: don't know. They just completely took what could have been
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: something good and then just completely made it not that good.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: And then the third one. I've heard a third one's
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: got a three point six, and I'm excited to watch
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Here's what's great about number three is if you just
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: completely disregard two.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, three is a direct sequel. Yeah, it's like what
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: they did with it works perfectly. Okay, That's what I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: figured they were doing, is trying to do what two
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: wanted to do and then also kind of negating it
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: like Halloween twenty eighteen did. For all the Halloween sequels.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: It was like, it's seventy eight and then we're skipping
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a twenty eighteen. All those other ones don't exist in
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: this timeline, so just forget about those. Yeah, so I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: excited to watch that one. But yeah, extiuses too, definitely
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a miss from me. And then we have Rabbid David
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Cronenberg three and a half stars Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Never seen that before from nineteen seventy eight four and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: a half stars. This didn't count from my thirty one
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Days of Horror, but I rewatched Prints of Darkness the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: other day bumped it up to a four.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And a half. It's so good because it's so good.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Hello, or that that was a part of it Road
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Games as part of my thirty one days. Four Stars
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Stacy Keats Jamie Lee Curtis fucking awesome, and then after
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: that the entity three stars kind of weird. It's about
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a rape, like a fucking demon. Not a fan of that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Dream skills So the entity was that it's.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Based on a real life occurrence too, which is why
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I gave it is that in a Russian it's in
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like mid I think it's a Midwestern city of the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: US where someone is like tormented by it's like actually
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: recorded at like recorded paranormal investigation and shit like that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: It's based off a true story. I didn't realize that
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: till the end, and I was like, oh, that's cool.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: But I I'm not huge on women just being abused
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in movies, So based on facts or not, I don't know.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I just don't like watching that. Dreamscape was awesome three
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and a half The Blob. First time watching that four
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and a half witch Ah, yes, okay, holy shit, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: did not. I expected good practical effects, but the gore
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: was insane. I don't know why I wasn't expecting gore
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: for an eighties like Goofy movie like that, and then
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: last but not least, Dead Ringers David Cronenberg four stars,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: really good. Had to look up an explanation video on
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it though, because it was so so psychological ized, like
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I can't keep up with this. Oh, and then Return
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the Living Dead Part two three stars, so nice.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: It's been going good.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: In between all that, I've somehow managed to watch a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: couple of new movies for this year. I've watched all
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the paranormal Activity movies because I got this new box set.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Absolutely love those. And then I watched Hell House LLC
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: today because it's spooky season and I and you have to.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not only it's a cleanser for every goddamn thing.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I just put it on and like the opening, like
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the scenes were happening now, was just like
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I was just so giddy because I'm like, this is
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like one of the greatest found footage movies of all time,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: if not like the best. It's my all like all
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: time favorite next to like exists, And it's the perfect
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: haunted house movie.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: It's perfect for spooky season, it's got good scares, it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: got good eerie atmosphere. Love Hellhouse LLC actually did a
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: video for one of my friends over at Slasher's podcast
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: about found footage. You can check it out on their
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: page Slasher's Podcast on Facebook and anywhere else in socials.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I talked about exists in Hellhouse and I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: just I just love found footage. Man, did you see
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: speaking of found footage? Did you watch dead stream yet?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Not yet?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: That when I got home from work.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm really excited to hear your thoughts on it,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: because it's, uh, did you did you like dash cam?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Or you or did you see that one? So I
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: started dash cam huh, and either I started cooking food
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: or I started smoking medical marijuana. So two happened and
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I never finished it. From what I.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Saw, I was I wasn't like, oh wow, but I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we all know my opinions on that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of it. I think Annie is
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a piece of shit. There's no redeeming qualities for her,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: but she gives up kind of the same The guy
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: in this gives off kind of the same energy as her,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: but not as dickish as her. He's just kind of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like it's like the guy from followed, Remember how he's
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the YouTube, So it's like that he's got that personality
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that you like, you just want to punch in the face,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: but then he actually has a pretty decent character arc.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: He's also hilarious in this, and there's a lot of
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: good creepy scares. So yeah, report back on that whenever
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you see it. Super excited. And last, but not least,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: about movies. Did you see Halloween Ends?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of them?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, like the new ones?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: No? Really? Nope? Oh shit, Okay. I was having this
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: conversation with somebody the other day and they were like, wait,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: what now. I was like nope, and they're like kidding me.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, nope, don't give a fuck.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't be shocked anyone hasn't seen movies
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: because I haven't. You know, I didn't see Nightmare on
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Elm Street until like two years ago. You know, it's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: even been last year. Yeah, last year. So I can't
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: be mad when someone's like, you haven't seen it. I'm like,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I mean like, yeah, I mean, you know, it's just
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: how it is. I'm just I just it is surprising though,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: just because of how big the first one was. But
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you know, Kills has mixed reviews. And everyone fucking hates ends.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, like and see, you.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Know, like it's one of those things that, like, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: know the story of Michael Myers already, Yeah, And I
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: can glean basically everything I need to know of the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: story from literally anything and everything I read about it
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: or any photo that I see captured on the internet.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: So really i'd just be watching it for the kills
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: at that point, and I can watch a cut of
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: that on YouTube. You know, I'm not the biggest Michael
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Myers fan. Everybody knows that.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's one of those series that I'm like, yeah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and there's been it's been so up ever since. Like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: let's see, I mean after four, you know you have,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: uh five is Revenge of Michael Myers, I think, which
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: is not that great. Then Curse, then it comes back
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: with Age two O, but then it goes right back
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: down with Resurrection, and then it goes back out with Zombies,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and then back down with two and then up with
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it or the twenty eighteen one. It's just like Halloween
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: is so fucking all over the place with their franchise.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: It's not consistent like Friday the thirteenth, I feel is
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a bit more consistent, because at least the first four
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: are fucking like almost all same quality, you know what
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I mean almost.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And see, here's here's my thing that I appreciate about
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth is we know when to fucking stop. Yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: we got the one remake and that was it, and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: everybody was like, all right, the remake was just alright.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I loved it, but yeah, a lot of people are
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't get wrong, it kills are good, it's
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it's Friday the thirteenth movie. Yeah, yeah, I love them,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: but they're they're just alright movies at the end of
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the day. But everybody's like, all right, they made it,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: just al right, they made another just all right one done.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Well it's because the rights though, that's well, yeah, also
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: because of the rights. But I think I think deep
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: down a lot of people like, all right, where we
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: don't need another one?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we really don't. I really like the remake just
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: because it really incorporated a lot from a lot of
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the movies. And yeah, the kills were good. They still
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: use a lot of practical effects. But I mean, yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: what I like another one? Yeah, It's like it's like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a movie I want every so often, I don't want
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you to start. I don't need another trilogy. Just make
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: one off Friday the Thirteenth movies. You don't have to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: make a whole fucking series.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Just yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And I've seen these all over the place, but I've
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: never watched them. But those, uh, those never Never Hike
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Alone little mini movies that have that fans have made
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: about Jason Vorhees. There's two of them. It's Never Hike
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Alone and Never Hike Alone in the Snow. They're like
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: thirty minute.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: YouTube of like I haven't seen those.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fan made like movies essentially, which I need
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to watch. They're on YouTube. But that's pretty much what
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: we've gotten since two thousand and nine. You know, you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: hear rumors like I saw something the other day about
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: how we might be getting a Friday the thirteenth next
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: year because the rights seem to finally be finding their
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: way or whatever. Just like at this point, it would
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: be nice just to get another one because it's been
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: fourteen years or it's been thirteen years, yeah, since two
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine, so it would be cool to see
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: somebody return and do something different or even just I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: don't care, just give me a guy in a hockey
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: mask killing people. Fuck the story at that point, just
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: like go have fun, because I think that's what the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: remake tried to do a lot of too, is it,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you know, tried to establish itself as its own thing
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: reference the old ones. So it was like, you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: but I mean, I'm on board for another one. I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: just don't need a fucking trilogy like David Gordon Green
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: is doing with The Exorcist now too. He's doing a trilogy,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't need a trilogy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's giving one, and like I'm I'm still torn
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: on that to begin, Yeah, because yeah, is it gonna
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: be like quality? Very likely, it's it's for all intent's purpose.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Is probably gonna be a really damn good movie, like.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Although Halloweens are their quality, but not necessarily.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But it's one of those things that it's like, man,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: are you doing this for like respect of the movie
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and because like you believe that you can add something
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to it or are you doing this on name recognition? Yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and if you're doing it on name recognition, it loses
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of it's magic to me.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And I just damn if David Gordon Green can do
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: what he did with Halloween twenty eighteen. For the first Exorcist, great,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: just do please, for the love of God, if you're
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: doing three, just do them different than kills and ends,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: because you know, I wasn't big on kills, and everyone's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: mixed on that one. And for the consensus I'm getting
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: now is everyone hates ends, like I was cool with
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: one Exorcist remake because no one has done it. They've
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: done the TV show, yeah, which was really good. Actually
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I watched the seen the first season or two and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it's really fucking good show. Uh, and then we've had
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Exorcists two and three. I think that's it. I think
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: we've had three movies in the TV show. I don't
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: think there's been anything else, but I could be wrong.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. So it's like I'm ready for
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a remake, you know, David Gordon Green cool? But a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: trilogy is why are we doing trilogies of everything? It's
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: just not necessary.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Well, now, see, the only way I will accept this
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: as a trilogy is if the first movie is literally
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: only about Father what's his faces Exorcism in Morocco where
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: he went up against Bazuzu the first time. That would
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: be great. That's the only way that you can justifiably
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: get from Exorcist one and three kind of into three
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: movies about the one incident.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm also wondering, are they gonna pull a Halloween
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: where it's, like, you know, directly from the first one
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: is three involved. Are they starting a whole new timeline?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Like, I think the only acceptable way to do it
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: is you're gonna have to start a whole whole new timeline. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: because I mean if you just look at like the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: social structure of the parties, the party scenes rather in
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the in the Exorcist one like that, that wouldn't fly today.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So you you've got that already that you just can't do.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think they're gonna have to go like
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: a whole new timeline and figure out what they're gonna.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Do, what to do, Yeah, especially if they're doing three.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I would love to see what you said though, that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: would be great, even if even if that was like
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the second movie in this trilogy and it was a prequel, whatever,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that's gotta be in there, because you're right that that's
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: kind of a big important piece of the story, speaking.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Of why does everything have to be a trilogy. Why
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: can't y'all release them in fucking order? Just put the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: damn order that's supposed to be seen. I'm sick of
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: watching two movies and then like four years later they go, oh,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: remember those two awesome movies. Here's the prequel that we
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: wanted to release originally, but for whatever reason, fuck you.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, uh, it's like Paranormal Activity. Okay, we're
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: gonna release one, all right, This one's a prequel, all right,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: This one's a prequel, all right. Four is the sequel
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to one. And you're like why yeah, whychol It goes
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: one and then two and then three. Yeah, and you
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: know what comes after three, four, four, But we don't
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: need four because we're just doing a trilogy and we
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: don't even need a trilogy.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Just got fuck it, Just do one.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Just do one where you explain everything.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this? How about you keep the same
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: run time of the director's cut original and just put
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: all your information in there.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Cut it into three chapters, the President, the Pass, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the future. Boom, done, nailed it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: The director's cot is like two hours and ten minutes,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, if you cannot fit all of your
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: movie of the original movie being the same leg you
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: fucked up, you fucked up, stop it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: All I hope for this new entry is lit. They
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: got to use as much practical effects as they can
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: because that's what that's what the you know, original has
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: going for it is all the practical effects and all
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the crazy shit they did. So keep that. I think
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: we'll be happy. I mean, most of the stuff and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the new Halloweens is practical, like they were, like, they've
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: smashed a couple of heads in this series and it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: been Look, you know, it's practical. It goops out like
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: pumpkin guts, so it's like cool. So keep the practical
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: effects alive. Try not to use cg make it a
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: good story. Hopefully it'll be good. David Gordon Green, I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: kind of have faith in you. You did so good
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: with twenty eighteen Halloween. Just bring that energy to the Exorcist.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: That's what we need right now. Yes, that's what we need.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Anything else interesting, any anecdotes, anything you got not really? No,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this movie. Then. I've got
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun facts on this one, and it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: mainly pointing out all the nods that they give to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: other movies like it's a lot.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: All right, So every time they introduced a new characters like.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Aha, yeah, listen, listen to that name, I know that
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: last name?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Uh so? Yes.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, welcome to episode one hundred and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: sixty two. I'm your host, Austin Proctor. That is your
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: co host, Corey Johnson. Hey, yes, forty minutes in love it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: We're talking about Behind the Mask. The Rise of Leslie
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: vernon Today from two thousand and six. This movie was
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: released on March sixteenth in two thousand and seven as
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a limited run, and then premiered on DVD June twenty sixth,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: two thousand and seven in the USA. Rated R for
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: moderate sex and nudity of severe violence and gore, moderate profanity.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: We've got twenty fucks, mild alcohol, drugs and smoking, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: mild frightening and intense scenes. Runtime of an hour and
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: thirty two minutes. Perfect runtime.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Oh it is fantastic, best run time. Screaming, Just yeah,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: just screams right by.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Listed as a comedy horror thriller Where's My I don't
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: have my mouth?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: That's fine?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Directed by Scott Glosterman. This man has four acting or
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: directing credits. I didn't see anything else that I recognized.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: It's also written by Scott Glossterman two writing credits. The
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: only other thing he's written is something that has been announced.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: The other writers David J. Steve Stive who has four
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: writing credits, also nothing major that he's done. Gordy Hobb
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: did the music for this sixty two composer credits. He
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: also did a bunch of Star Wars and Halo War
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: game soundtracks and then cinematography by Jason precant Or President
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: twenty eight cinematographer credits. Nothing else major to note, which
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: is it always baffles me when we get these movies
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: because it's like all these people who haven't really done
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: much in the way of like noticeable movies make this
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: fucking little gem.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Why aren't you doing more things? That's that's called the industry,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: My god, so weird. You float around where you can
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: get jobs, and so sometimes you're throwing dirt on victim
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: number two in fucking Law and Order SVU, and sometimes
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: you're doing shit like this.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I know. It's just funny how it works, because it's like, man,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I I'd love to see more from these guys, because
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: even the actors really you know, besides a couple that
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: we'll get into real quick. But we've got the lead guy,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Nathan Bazil as Leslie Vernon eighteen acting credits, only really
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: done like TV shows like One Off Here.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: So funny because he is the strangest combination of Jim
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Carrey and Sean Williams Scott. I have ever seen. That's
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: what it is.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. I'm like, you give You're giving
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: me off, like all this energy. That's exactly what it is.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, he enunciates like Jim Carrey and
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: looks like Sean Wiiams.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: It kind of has the doofy little faces that Sean
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: william Scott has.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: God, it was driving me crazy because when I looked
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: up Hiss and I saw that was nothing, and I'm like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: who are you? I know you from something? No, I'm
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: just mashing two people together in my head. Goodness. Then
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: we've got Angela Goethals as Taylor Gentry twenty seven acting
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: credits all she was also in Home Alone as Lenny.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I think that was one of the kids. I can't remember.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And then Jerry maguire is Kathy Sanders and Spanglish as
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Gwen So she's done some things. And then we've got
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Zelda Rubinstein as Missus Colin Wood, most notably Tangina from Poltergeist.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: You know this, this house is clear.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: That's her.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: She's awesome. This is actually her last movie. Sadly she
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: passed away I believe the same year of the year
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: after something like that. And then we've got Robert England
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: as Doc Hallerin, not Dick Hallerin. We'll get there, don't worry.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And it should really go without mentioning who this is
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: because it's a pretty big powerhouse name and the horror Yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And I was telling you earlier. Fuck it. I love
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Robert England because as long as it as long as
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: it has something to do like respectfully at the horror genre.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, I'm in you want my help? Yeah.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: He had like a five second scene and I think
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: was either Hatchet or Hatchett too, where he was in
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the canoe at the beginning and just like there's Robert England.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, bye, we don't see him for the rest
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: of the movies.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I love Robert England. He's so great. So, yeah, he's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: in this, He's in I don't know, maybe like five
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: ten minutes of the movie. And then last but not least,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: we've got Scott Wilson, his Eugene, who was most notably
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Herschel Green and The Walking Dead. He popped up and
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, I forgot this old son of a
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: bitches in this movie. Love him, He's such a great actor.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything on budget because this was probably
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: an indie film, I would assue, but it did gross
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: about seventy K at the box office, probably you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the limited release in.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: America, which is really cool.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: This was filmed in various parts all over Oregon, Wayne, Maine,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: which is a fun place to live, and then of
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: course Los Angeles, California. You can watch this on AMC Plus.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: You can rent it on Amazon for three ninety nine
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: or buy it for twelve ninety nine. There's also a
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Scream Factory Blue ray that you can buy for twenty dollars,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: so there's plenty of ways to watch this.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: How did you watch it? Uh? I rented it. Yeah,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: it did not show up on my AMC Plus.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, it's what is said on IMDb, so maybe
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: that's that could be false.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I don't have AMC plus, so I'm.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: More than happy for a three nine rental.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, three ninety nine is nothing. Oh, I didn't do
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the movies that came out around the same time. Well
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: that's The Son of a Bitch. Wow, fuck you? Uh yeah,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: fuck that apparently, So I guess let's go to favorite.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Did you have a specific horror moment? There's really not anyway.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: So the specific horror moment is technically my favorite kill.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Also, is it a spoiler? Is it a spoiler? Is
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: it like the last kill?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: No? Oh, with the post hole digger? Oh? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: that's that's my favorite horror moment.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: And slash kill Okay, my horror moment and kill is
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: kind of a spoiler, so I won't say anything on that.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Let me pull up my notes here though. Did you
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: have okay, that's your favorite kill? Did you have a
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: favorite character?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Eugene, Eugene.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, Herschel, Yeah yeah, yeah, Herschel's awesome. My favorite is Leslie.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: He's just a fucking silly and oh yeah, he is hilarious.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It was a close running, but I had to give
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: it to Eugene. Yeah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I really love how kind of meta the ship gets
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: to and obviously we'll we'll get into that here in
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: just a little bit. Did you have a did you
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: have a favorite least favorite character? Sorry, least favorite character.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Probably Taylor Taylor.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was kind of yeah, all over the place.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't really have I didn't really
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: not like anybody, So yeah, I didn't really have someone
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I like the least to put on the list. Did
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you have a favorite line?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: So it's a mini monologue, may I read it? Oh?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Fuck, absolutely? Of course.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: The answer is simple, run like a motherfucker and don't
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: stop till the sun comes up. Pardon the French, but
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: there it is. And don't try and hide. We'll find you.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Don't try and be a hero and fight us. You'll lose. Now,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: pick out a clear spot ahead of you and run
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: as far away as possible and run straight. Don't ever
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: look back because you won't like what you see. I
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: promise you that. Yeah. I was like, oh, it's so
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: fucking cold.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: That was a good old herschel there.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Yep, it was such a good little bit. And I
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, that's what every killer is gonna
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: say to you, And it just kind of cements in
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: all of what's going on.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was pretty good. And like I said, I
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: really do enjoy Scott Wilson. I don't really haven't really
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: seen him in much besides Walking Dead. Uh.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: You you actually probably.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Have, That's the thing I probably have. I just don't know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: you know what.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I will hang on, uh fill some space while I
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: fucking look him up real quick.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you. But no, I'm just kidding.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I have a favorite line. It was really quick one
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: off thing that Leslie Vernon said, or at least I
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: think he said it. You can correct me if I
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: was wrong, but I believe. When he's talking to his
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: turtles at the beginning of the movie, he says something
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: along the lines of I only keep animals that I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: can eat.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I only keep pets that I can I only.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Keep pets that I can eat. And I was like,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: that's fucking morbid. He's like, yeah, I haven't ft these
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: guys in weeks. I don't know how they're so alive.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, then sol right, he.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Was in the host the host like the bong Yeah
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: that yeah, he's Douglas. What the fuck? How do you
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: forget that. He was in the Last Samurai with Tom
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Cruise Ship.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: In Away. He was in Monster with Charlie's theirn about
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: what's her face? The serial? Yeah, he was in The
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Animal with Rob Schneider.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: The Animal, I forgot about that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: He was in Shiloh two, shilohs Oh boy. He was
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: in g I Jane.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, so he's done things. Yeah, he was in Judge
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Dread Oh shit, Okay, Yeah, see.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: The original Judge Dreads.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Like I have. You know, It's like I see him
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: every now and again, and I'm always like, I love
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: this guy, like this, this guy needs to be around more.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately he he did. I think he passed away
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: a few years ago. But yeah, he's always He's always
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: fun to watch on screen.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: And you saw a ninth configuration right, No, I didn't know.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Is that any good? Uh? Yeah, it's it's we are
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: like religious horror, psychological thriller, people in an asylum during
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: war type shit.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I did pull up the movies that came out
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: around the same time. We'll go off of the theatrical
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: limited release from March sixteenth, two thousand and seven, so
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: in that we've got ghost Rider on the original one.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: The one with Nick Cage. Yeah, but like ghost Rider one,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: just ghost Rider.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh fustraight, that one's good. And then We've got
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I just saw the Number twenty three, which I actually
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: quite enjoy.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I need to rewatch that, Yeah, because when I saw
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: it for the first time, I was like, this is stupid.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I enjoy.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I give it another watch.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: We've Got Wild Hogs, which I know is a terrible movie,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: but I fucking love it. Got three hundred, which is
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: crazy dead, Silence which is a good one. Hell's Have
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Eyes two TM and T. I assume that's the first
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: one with Megan Fox Maybe, I don't know. Blade of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Glory like that one. Gabby is a big fan of
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: that one. Are We Done Yet? Oh that's the movie
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I was talking about last time with Ice.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Are we there yet?
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: We came up on a previous episode. I was like, yeah,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it's this. He also did are We Done Yet? Or
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: where are we? Or something like that. Grindhouse, which is awesome, Dysturbia,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: perfect Stranger and Hot Fuzzs. So a lot of good
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: shit around that time, maybe two thousand and sevens let's
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: get into this review here, IMDb summary. The Great The
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Next Great Psycho horror slasher has given a documentary career
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: exclusive access to his life as he plans his reign
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: of terror over the sleepy town of Glen Echo. We
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: don't really have to talk about this linearly, but you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: of course I have plenty of notes on this stuff exactly.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: But I'll just set up the basics and then we
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: could just talk about everything we liked, because it is
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun, and.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: This is a movie that you kind of you can't
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: really give away very much watch it all because if
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: after the first like fifteen minutes, if you're paying any
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: kind of attention, and you know horror movies, you figured
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: out the movie. Yeah, so letting go any of like
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the crucial lines or anything. I'll just give away the
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: entire movie.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Oh then, how far did you want to take? I
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: should probably should have asked this before.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I would say that we kind of just go over
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: more like interesting bits sort of as they come, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: then because like I, I more want to gush on
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: like the process.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah that they show.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: That's fine because that's like ninety percent of the movie anyway,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: So that's fine.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I'll just set it up because it opens with, uh,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: it's really weird because so this is this movie is
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: film found footage style POV style, but then there are
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: also shots that are not POV, and usually I can't
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: stand that. I really wish, you know, film makers would
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: pick one or the other. But in this one it
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: works because there are times where the cameras set down
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and they stop filming and then it goes to like
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: normal like production style. So it works in this one,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and I don't usually hate it as much because typically
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I can't sim.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: So I have an idea of why that is. So
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the whole premise of this of this movie is this
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: is a world where slashers from the movies are real people. Yeah.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: They literally mentioned Jason, Michael and Freddy and like the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: first five minutes of the movie like they established them
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: as real people.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: So this is a movie about a movie crew. Yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: so there, like the found footage is them like making
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: the horror movie.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: So like the whole.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Premise is the shit from Friday the Thirteenth, Camp Crystal Lake,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Like those movies are not movies, they're documentaries of what
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: was happening.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are real events that have happened.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: So this is the movie about the documentary crew filming
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: the next Jason or the next Freddy. So it it
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: kind of makes a little bit of sense that they
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: give you most of what they're seeing through POV. Yeah,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: but then when they do set it down, it makes
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: sense as to why we are seeing it because from
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: like a universal rules perspective, it at least flows correct.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's one point where they are literally talking
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: about Leslie Vernon's plan on you know, trapping all the kids,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: and it goes.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: To like.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Not a narration what's it called when a voiceover of
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you know, Taylor and Leslie talking while things are enacted
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: on screen, and like, yo, this is how the plan's
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: gonna go, like the you know, the Virgin's gonna do this,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and then you see it on the screen and they'll
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: like no, no, no, stop, pause, and then they'll go back.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So in that instance, it makes sense, and it does flow,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: It flows very well, but it's it's it's nice to
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: see it done properly because typically I'm like paranormal activity
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: next of Kin, they literally don't establish there's more than
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: one camera, and if they do, they say it. But
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: like there's times where there's like multiple camera angles and
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are you sound footage or you're not fund
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: footage like that mystery camera fucking drives me insane. So
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: they do it very well in this and uh I
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: find it very entertaining.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: So for the argument for Next of kin that that
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: extra footage is when they reveal the whole big reveal
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: at the end of why It's happening. Yeah, those shots
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: are implied to be how they found Homegirl in the
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: first place because they have cameras everywhere watching everything interesting.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: It's it's dumb and they don't say it out loud
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: to fuck them.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck them for that. Uh So that's what the
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: basic premise is. And and how it starts off is
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: really weird because it doesn't start off with POV. It
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: literally starts out with this waitress taking out trash and
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: then we see, you know, the mask behind her door
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: shuts behind her, and then she turns around you know,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: there's no one behind her, and then she goes running
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: away or something like that. It's very weird. And then
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: the title guard pops up and you're like, Okay, that's weird.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: But then we get introduced to Taylor and she's reporting
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: on a place called Glen Echo, which is like a
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: picture postcard community, like thousands of small places all over
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the country, and she's talking about evil creeping into areas
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: like this, mentions Jason Voorhi's a camp, Crystal Lake, mentions
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Elm Street, and Freddie mentions Myers and Haddenfield, and she's
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out the connection between all these.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Little towns in Glen Echo.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: And then she goes on to say that twenty years ago,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: boy was possessed or sorry sorry, a possessed boy by
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: evil was taken and thrown out of his home by
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: a frenzied mob over a waterfall, and then the boy drowned.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: His name is Leslie Vernon, and he's going to seek
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: revenge on the people for you know, for wronging him.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: And this crew is following him around because he's about
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: to come back after these twenty years and reign terror
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: and seek out vengeance. So that's when you and like
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: that's the setup of the movie. You're like, this is
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the most a rich movie I've seen, and this is
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: few and six, this is sixteen years old, and it's
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: so it's such a fresh take because that's really wasn't
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: pelv wasn't even like huge in.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Two thousand and six.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: No, paranormal activity really kicked it off in like two
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven, two thousand and eight. That's really when
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: found footage started being at the forefront of you know,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Quarantine was like two thousand and eight. Yeah, Cloverfield of
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, So this was before all that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: So to have a movie that old be this fresh
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: is just it's so nice because you're like, oh, we're
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: we're gonna follow my documentary crew about a real saver
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: coilor like that's interesting. Yeah, I find that's super awesome.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: And the establishment of oh slashers are real so right
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: away too. So anything hooky spooky that goes on, fuck you,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: it's just how the world works.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. This is real life. This is
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: not fiction.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: No, and it's and it it allows them to just
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: be so fucking tongue and she through the entire thing. Yeah,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: because most of the movie is the setup for how
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: the climax is going to.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Happen, which is so perfect.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: They give you the old ari aster, but instead of
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: showing it in like the panning two minute shot at
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the beginning, they spend the entire movie saying, Okay, I
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: am the killer, this is the person I'm going after,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: and here's how I'm gonna do it. Yeah, and then
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: they just they they go and do this. They set
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: it up, and it's really funny because he goes, oh, yeah,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna do this, and then I'm gonna
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: cut the power and then they're gonna go do this
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: if everything works out properly. And then when they do this,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: it's gonna and you're sitting there you're like, all right,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: this is actually really fucking smart. And then it allows
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: you to kind of move over to other horror movies
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, so if this happened, this is
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: how it would happen, and yeah, they literally break it
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: down in terms of reality on how it would well.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: And then they give you like the whole horror movie
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: formula and you're like, God damn it, this is exactly
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: what happens in every horror movie. And then it's it's
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: almost insulting for a second because you're like, am I
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: that fucking stupid that? I like, fuck you movie, You're
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: too smart for your own good. Yeah, I just love
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: how they literally spent the whole movie is setting up
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: the climax, and you don't get it POV style, you
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: get it like normal movie style, which.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Is yeah, which is such a it's such a clever
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: way to do that because they put the camera down
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: at one point they're like, we have to, like we've
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: got to stop him, and then it's like regular camera
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: and then and then the rest of it is trying
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to undo what they what they've spent this entire movie doing.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: And it's such a weird juxposition. You're like this, the
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: tone is changing on this movie all over the place.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's funny because toward the end, uh, Leslie
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: just starts being fucking like Jesus prophesying and uh so, uh,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: they're they're in the middle of doing something, and then
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Leslie pulls Taylor out of the house and goes and
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Taylor's like, what why'd we leave?
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Why'd we leave?
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: And and Leslie goes, it's because you had this. I
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: can't just stand by and watch this happen. Look on
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: your feet, and then Leslie walks away, and then Taylor
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: looks at everybody and goes, we can't just stand here
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: and watch this happen. And the two guys are like,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: didn't didn't Leslie just say you were gonna say that
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: and she's like.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Shut up. It's like, so it's so meta and the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: fact of making everything real and talking about Jay like
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: real people. But then it's meta in its own way
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and it's in it's in itself and it's just so
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: so much utter fun, especially when they're you know, he's
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: just talking to them about his process and like how
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: he picks people out and oh have you like you
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: know he's been doing research, Like no, I already have
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: the girl picked out. He's like, that takes a lot
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: of time. I wouldn't waste your time by not having anybody.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: So he's got this girl picked out, and I guess
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: like the group of friends because I think it has
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: started on a dare where someone dared one of the
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: someone to stay at Leslie's like what was it family
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: house or something like that old farmhouse, old farmhouse, and
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: every year people get to stay there. So that's what
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: that's the plan is that on the night of his
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: anniversary of his death, he's going to reappear at that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: house and just murder the shit out of everyone. So
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: that's the setup, and you're just like, this is so
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: wildly awesome to watch. You don't usually see this side
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: of the movie. You just see the outcome. So spending
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: the whole time setting up the climax is great. And
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: especially when they meet him for the first time. He's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: doing interviews and you get a sense of who this
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: guy is and what makes him tick. You're like, because
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I've never also seen a movie where they
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: sit down and interview the killer. Besides, like you know,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: like the Jeffrey Dahmer tapes, but or whatever. But that's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: not not even kind of the same thing.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: And it's very apparent that while he seems very put together,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: he's just completely unhinged the entire time.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's got a plan of action and he
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: knows what he wants to do, but he's totally unhinged
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. You can see it in his eyes and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: how he laughs and how he giggles. It's like there
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: is some madness behind those eyes. Or I don't like that.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Or when he gets all giddy when he's about to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: go do the first killing the library and he's just
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: jumping up and down and gagling, I'm like, man, like
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: you are you are way too happy for what's going
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: on right now.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Way too happy. Uh yeah, he's a joke. So he's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: always fucking with the crew as well. And uh there's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: a there's a moment too when he's talking them to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the camera about uh, you know, working.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Out and stuff like that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: He's like, didn't say how much cardio I have to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: do because it's like all the running man, and then
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta do that thing where you're walking and everyone
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: else is running. It takes a lot of energy. I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: was like, that is fucking so brilliant because it's just
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: like they're making a joke out of that, Like they're
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: literally making fun of Slashers on how they walk everywhere
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and somehow managed to keep up with everyone else. Like
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: that is such And then I'm like fifteen minutes later,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: he's describing the apple orchard in the middle of the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: night and he starts freaking out and he just looks
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: at the camera and he goes, I'm fucking with you.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I was like, ah, that's so good.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it gets all quiet and serious and you're like,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: oh shit, okay.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Well because he starts off as they're walking there with
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: going yeah, we gotta go to the we got to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: find the base for my legend.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like Okay, he's got everything for his process
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: ready to go. And then yeah, he always talks about
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: how the you know, the he explains final girls a
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: little bit. They all have to be virgins, and she's like,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: how do you know that he's a virgins? Like, just
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: look at her, she's a virgin. Yeah, and that ends
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: up coming to be uh come back around towards the end,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: which is which is really funny. I don't want to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: give that away, but uh yeah, and then we see
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: them actually set up the opening shot of the movie
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: where they go mess with the waitress because that's, you know,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Kelly is.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: The girl he's trying to Kelly is the final girl.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Kelly is the final girl, and he's like messing with her.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: So he goes and does that thing at her job,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and then he goes to the library and like sets
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: up this article for her to find because she'll find
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the article and they won't have it, so she'll have
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: to go to the micro films and like look up
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: all that and it's all fake too.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: It makes the entire mics.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Goes and replaces it at the library and you're like,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: this is so fucking ridiculous. This is a lot of
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: work and see if this is what serial killers are
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: out there doing, Oh my god. And then it's funny
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: too because when he goes and sets up that whole
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: scene at the library is cool when he sets everything up,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: because that's when fucking Robert England comes out of nowhere
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: because he's in his get up, you know, trying to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: scare the shit out of Kelly. And then you know,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Robert England shows up Sam Loomis style, Yeah, just exactly
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: like Sam Loomis and he's like Leslie and then he
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: shoots him in the shoulder. He runs away, and so
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: that you know, Doc Hollerin comes over it just like
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: consoles Kelly. I just thought it was so funny. There's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: trivia about that I'll read because there's a whole bunch
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: of it. But it's just like, yeah, Robert England literally
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: shows am out of nowhere. And I love how they
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: explain him too, because Leslie's like, yeah, that was my
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: psychiatrist as a kid. He came and visited me when
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I was younger, and he just always knew that I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: would come back. And I'm like, that doesn't make sense,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: but we'll go with it for the story and then
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: you find out do we want to reveal the now?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: No? Kay, I, I would say, because half of the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: fun of this movie is just watching the plot points
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: be overturned and be like, oh, so that's how they're
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: gonna do that. Oh huh, so that's how they're gonna
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: explain that one. Okay, that's that's half the fun of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: this movie. Because I had the movie figured out and
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: then it was getting into like the last fifteen to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes and I was like, maybe I didn't have
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: this movie figured out, and then they give the like
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: final final reveal and I was like, oh, okay, I
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: was right. I just wasn't right about the process.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, So then we won't to say that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I would like to talk about. Then we'll talk about
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: what's his face Eugene, Because at some point Leslie takes
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the crew. They go to meet his Eugene and his wife,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: and I didn't get what was going on in the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: beginning because he was in a separate or sensory deprivation
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: tank that was just fucking buried in the ground, and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the yeah, he just goes and digs him up, and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: it's been like three days that he's been in there.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what, So, what was that supposed to be?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: So it's so you can train your body to stalk
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: for hours on end and never have to.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Eat sleep or oh he did say that. Okay, I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: thought I didn't think he was referencing. Okay, I must
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: have missed the connection there. That makes sense. Well, it
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: turns out that Eugene is a retired serial killer, and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: the crew interviews him about his time, and he mentions
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: how Jason, Freddie and Mike they changed the game forever
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: by coming back over and over and over again. And
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: then the term red Herring's brought up at one point,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: so Leslie explains what red herring is. And I just
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: love that they're just handing you all these breadcrumbs for
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: this movie, just like all these little things that we
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: know are tropes, but they're giving them to you, like
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: right in front of your face instead of beating around
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the bunch. So I find that very a very fun
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: way to tell the story. Already got to the phony
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: news article blah blah blah. Yeah, and then oh, so
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: the librarian is Zelda, by the way, she's a little
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: lady that comes out she I love the backstory she
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: goes in for Kelly. Oh yeah, because Kelly figures out
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: like some information on that thing that's you know, it's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: all faked. But then you know, Zelda goes into this
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: long backstory on how he'd you know, how Leslie Vernon
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: died and how he was treated and blah blah blah.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: And I was like, that was a good monologue right there.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Well, and what's really funny about that is earlier in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: the scene, Leslie was asking Taylor, oh, have you met
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: any weird homeless people recently, which is a reference to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: what they call in Cabin in the Woods the harbinger,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: the creepy old person that like delivers the story or
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: the turn back. Now. Wow, so they made Zelda the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: harbinger and they like directly referenced it before that scene happened.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Oh nice, Okay, yeah it was. I was like, oh,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: that's fun.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just it's just an all around fun movie.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love, I love just the whole premise
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: of interviewing serial Killer because at one point, you know this,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the murders start to happen and people get upset,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: like it's almost like they didn't think that he was
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: gonna do that, you know. Yeah, it's like this is
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: what the whole movie has been about, and they get
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: like upset and then there's like this weird struggle that
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: you'll see. But it's really funny to just watch the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: whole The whole thing gets set up into the end,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: and then the ending is just so satisfying and well.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: And the thing that I like the most is they
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: watch what is it three separate people get killed before
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: they have a problem with what's going with, Like, so
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: it was they get what the librarian, one other person,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: and then they freak out about the two kills in
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: the bedroom, like why did you allow two other people
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: to die beforehand? Did they die? I thought the I didn't.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't, I don't.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the librarian dying. Did she die?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, oh weird. So why why is it
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: now in the house that you have a problem with
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: what's going on and not the two kills prior? Interesting?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't notice that, but yeah, it's it is
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: kind of funny when that happens.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: There's a whole power struggle.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Then the tone changes and then the story changes, and
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: it's very interesting how quickly this movie can turn Oh
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's a lot of fun.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we had to tell it had to be
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: kind of vague about this one, because going along with
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: the story and finding out everything as it's happening is
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And uh, it's just one of
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: these movies that I feel is not talked about enough.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I like, you know, and you hadn't even seen it.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it. We had talked about it like
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: a while years ago, and it's always been one of
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: those ones. And I'm like, yeah, I'll get to it.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: But the name makes it sound so fucking corny.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: And it also sounds like a documentary almost, yeah, and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: which I mean it is.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: And then Leslie Vernon, like you think it's gonna be
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Scott Watson being who's Leslie vernonau is such an old
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: man name. Yeah, So it's one of those things that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: it's like so unassuming and it doesn't even give itself
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: enough credit for what it's doing, which which is the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: other thing that makes this movie so good is it
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: does all of this without ever like stepping on its
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: own toes because it thinks it's that funny or that good. Exactly,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: it was like a bunch of college dudes got together
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: and was like, Hey, you want to make a fucking
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Monty Python style horror movie, super meta movie, Like we're
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: we're we're just gonna make all these jokes that only
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: people in our community you're gonna get. Yeah, it will
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: alienate anyone else that decides to watch it like it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah. Like this is a movie that if
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: you if if somebody's been bugging you to watch horror
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: movies with them and you're like, I don't want to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: watch movies with this person because they've never seen any
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: you put on this movie and they're go, eh, I'm good.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, So we'll just leave it there.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: This is one just to check out. You gotta just
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: watch this one. It's so much fun, especially if you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: enjoy found footage style of movies. Do you know mockumentaries
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: U There is a not really a mid or post
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: credits scene, but there is a scene that plays behind
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: the credits that goes all the way through, So stay
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and watch that. It's pretty cool. Taglines there was only one,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and it's perfect. Jason Freddie Myers. We all need someone
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: to look up to. I think that's perfect, right, on
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: point and then let me just give you all the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: references that are in this movie that I could find,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and that we're in the trivia. So at the beginning,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Taylor is standing in front of the Red Rabbit Pub.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: This is a reference to the Red Rabbit matchbook found
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: by doctor Loomison Halloween nineteen seventy eight. The first time
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Taylor interviews Eugene and his wife, a Lament configuration puzzle
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: box from hell Raiser can be seen sitting on the table.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: I missed that one.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I missed that one too, but apparently it was there
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: and I got that one from IMDb. When Leslie and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: the graduate students are scoping out potential victims at the school,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: he makes eye contact with a young woman. As this happens,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: three girls can be spotted playing jump rope in the background,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: and this is a reference to a nightmare on Elm Street.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: When Leslie first shows up the crew to his home,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: he introduces his pet Turtles, Church and Zoe. These are
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: the names of the resurrected pets from Pet Cemetery, Church
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: being being the cat from Pet Cemetery nineteen eighty nine
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: and Zoe being the dog from Pet Cemetery too. When
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Leslie first takes Taylor to Me and her to meet
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Eugene and his wife. The car parked in Eugene's driveway
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: is the same color making model as the car scene
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: and director Sam Raimi's movies. It's that yellow old mobile.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: A boy, which is Sam Ramis car, real car. Yeah,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: real life still drives that bitch too. Oh yeah.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Doc Hallarin's wardrobe and beard is nearly identical to that
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: of Donald Pleasant Doctor Loomis from the Halloween film franchise,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense that's what they were
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: going for. There are several character names that are references
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: to classic horror films. For entrance, Doc Hallarin is a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: mashup of Danny's nickname Doc and Dick Hallarin from The
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Shining So it's Doc Halarin and Jamie being a reference
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: to Jamie Lee Curtis, who is this final girl in
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: several slasher movies such as Halloween and prom Night. Leslie's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I won't say that one because that's actually a yeah,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I won't give away that one.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: That's actually kind of a spoiler.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: When Leslie is applying makeup being interviewed about his target,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the song playing in the background is the same as
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: that is heard at the end of the Shining where
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Jack Torrance appears in the photo Midnight the Stars in You,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: sung by Al Bowley. The character Kelly Curtis is a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: reference to screen Queen Scream Queen Jamie Lee Curtis, who
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: happens to have his sister named Kelly Curtis. When Taylor
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: is interviewing Leslie in the shed before the murders take place,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: herd mittens have the same moose pattern as Kevin McAllister's
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: hat and home alone, the movie contains a subtle reference
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: to the Blair Witch Project. Glen Echo, Maryland, is a
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: real town in Montgomery County, Maryland. Seneca Creek State Park
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: and the town of Burkettsville, the two main shooting locations
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: for the Blair Witch Project, are also located in Montgomery County.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Glen Echo is about a one hour drive from the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: town of Burkettsville, in less than half an hour from
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Seneca Creek State Park, So that's pretty cool. And then
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of goofs. At the beginning of the film,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: the title says Glen Echo, Maryland. Later a microfish copy
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: of the local newspaper says Glen Echo Oregon. When Taylor
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Gentry is running into the apple orchard, you can see
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: set lights at the top of the screen and the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: opening credit stating or state introducing Nathan Basel. But he
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: has had three previous tell Vision credits, including a major
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: role in a mini series Invasion, So not introducing that
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: was kind of weird. Rated six point seven out of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: ten on IMDb, three point five out of five on Letterbox,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: which three point five out of five is huge for
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: found footage. That is a massively good score. I still okay.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: So when I originally rated this at three to five,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: that film, it's obviously higher.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Now I don't know.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't get it the first time.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I'm stuck between a four and four five. I cannot
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: actually pick. I'm yeah, that's fair.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: What are you at? So I'm out of three to
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: five only because there was a lot of missed opportunity
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: for practical gore on screen.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Most kills were off screen or just out of frame.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I feel it's probably because there wasn't a high budget,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, one hundred percent that's why
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I totally get it. But if you would
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: have given me two more quality on screen kills.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two more good ones.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: You would have gotten a four to five.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: All right, I will since you're giving it a three five.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: I liked it more than I did the last time,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: so I will give it a four because, yeah, I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. It's super meta, it's super funny. I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: just enjoyed it all around. Okay, so I'll give it
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: a four. You gave it a three five, and yeah,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: if you have AMC plus. Maybe I don't know's it
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: wasn't there for him, but maybe it's hidden somewhere. Maybe
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: that's wrong. Rent it by it, do whatever, test your look.
• 1:14:25
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• 1:14:43
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• 1:14:47
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• 1:14:52
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• 1:14:55
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• 1:14:59
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• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Factory should be a lot of fun. I've never seen it.
• 1:15:05
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• 1:15:18
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• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: actually enjoyed a lot more than I thought I did.
• 1:15:23
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• 1:15:31
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