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One thing nearly half of people are starting to understand | HBR Talk 258 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome Tuesday technical difficulties. Uh. Now, this is HBr
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  Talk two fifty eight. One thing. Nearly half of people are starting to
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  understand. And obviously there's there's going to be more to the article than that
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  which you can you can see in the background. Um that you know this
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  this article is is a little bit complicated in terms of the title. But
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  before we get into that, why did my page just disappeared? God damn
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  it. Welcome Tuesday technical difficulties with the Badgers. Uh but yeah, well,
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  like like anybody who was listening before the show got to hear if anything,
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  if anything else goes wrong today. Like that's enough things going wrong today.
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  I have had technical difficulties all fucking day. Um, but I'm your
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  host, Hannah Wallen here with Nonsense Anniali, Lauren Brooks and the Personification of
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  Perceptivity, Mike Stevenson, And tonight we're going to take a look at an
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  article by doctor John Barry for the Center for Male Psychology in which he highlights
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  some issues and an area of progress and asks, as you can see in
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  the title, a very important question. Cute brother soul Star gave us two
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  dollars us and asked also a very important question, So did you guys hear
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  about Caroline Bryant? And yes, I did, about twenty minutes before I
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  started the show, and maybe maybe less than that. Almost almost changed the
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  show topic. But I figured I'd hand it off to to Brian and let
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  him decide if he wants to make it a topic for the news show,
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  because that's news. So yeah, the accuser whose accusation led to Emmett Till's
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  death at the hands of an angry mob whose petty accusation. By the way,
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  all she accused him of was a wolf whistle. It's just that racism
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  played a part, and misentry played a part. Um, and and that
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  she passed away from cancer if I understand right. Um, but that that
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  incident. If you haven't learned about that bit of history, that bit of
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  American history, look up Emmett Till and read about it. But fair warning
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  that for anybody who's never heard that history before, it is heartbreaking, gut
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  wrenching and enraging. Yeah. Um, he was. He was beaten to
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  death. Um that he was. He was tortured to death essentially, and
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  it his body was unrecognizable when it was over. Um, It's just there's
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  no two ways about it. This was an absolute atrocity over being accused of
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  wolf whistling. So there's your history. Um, that was I'm not I'm
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  not going to make the show about that topic. But yeah, um you
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  know it's I ain't rest in hell trended on Twitter. Um. Yeah.
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  And and incidentally, his body was recognizable depending on how advanced your understanding is
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  of recognizable skeletal remains, Yeah, you could. I'm if if if you
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  have a rudimentary understanding of skelet remains, you could um identify his remains as
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  um, I won't say African American, but Africa. But if if you
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  have even a basic understanding of skelet remains, you could recognize that he was
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  male, which which um, which which would demonstrate that Emmettil was lynched partially
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  because he was black, but principally because he was male. And this is
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  what's so difficult to get across to people. No. Yeah, I mean,
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  I mean, nobody gets nobody gets criticized for wolf whistling if they're female,
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  right, and it's in for what they did to him. It's not
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  even like it was a rape accusation. It was hay, lady, you
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  look nice today, or whatever the hell it was. You know, it's
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  the equivalent of that whatever that was. It's just infuriating. But you know
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  again, like you said, well, we'll leave that, Yeah, where
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  that is, because the story is just it's it's there's there's so much.
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  We probably ought to discuss the phenomenon in conjunction with the modern discussion on um
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  quote unquote street harassment. Yeah, which I object to the idea of street
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  harassment, because we were pretty much every woman who makes that allegation, it
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  would be her, Carolyn. It would be very informative to discover the last
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  time a woman was lynched in any given country on as a result of her
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  seducing a male fiction. Yeah, I don't think that's ever happened. I
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  guess ever happened, does it? I really don't. We don't even always
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  get recognition from society that the victim is a victim when a woman genuinely victimizes
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  someone, like when he's underage, or when she uses a drug, or
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  when she doesn't get what she wants and she leverages a false allegation to punish
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  him for refusing her, you know, which all of those things are abuse,
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  but not all of those get recognized as abuse, not even not a
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  child support if he's underage, not even in the in the in the event
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  of a lower class of working class woman seducing an upper class man into the
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  things to which um Emmettell was accused of seducing an upper class woman. I
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  mean, we've been trying to get this thing across for a long time.
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  Yeah, Like it's for everything you can say about this being racially skewed,
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  Like imagine if you if you could put that across in the same way as
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  being racially secwed, even all the way going back to the time before the
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  the United States of America even existed. But it's it's always been a thing
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  for men of any class to be accused of quote unquote seducing a woman of
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  any class. Yeah, and I say seducing, but it's it becomes rape
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  when a man does it to a woman, and it's just called seducing when
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  a woman does it to a man. Like the seduction used to be actually
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  a kind of a crime when men did it to women, but not when
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  women did it to men. In and of itself. It's still called seducing
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  to this day. When a woman does it to a man, When when
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  a woman of thirty does it to a man of fourteen or whatever, you
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  can call a man. That's and that's partially the problem. Yeah, like
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  a man of any age is called what whatever it needs to be called to
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  make to make it so that the woman who raped him can be can be
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  called you know, it can just be called a woman having a sexual relation.
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  She merely seduced him. Yeah, ye, in the same way that
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  if if the genders were reversed, it would be called rape. So what
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  I will point out is that this actually kind of is touched on in the
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  article that I picked out for us to look at today, and we probably
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  should get into that because it's something that, um there there's a positivity and
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  negativity in it. The topic we've been talking about. Like again, I
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  want to make I want to leave room for that to be a news topic
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  because I think Brian's gonna want to talk about it. Um, But this
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  article is great. This was written by doctor John Barry. Um. I
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  think any anybody that's been at ICMI has probably met him. But in any
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  case, I will get into the article just because, um, you know
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  this, like I said, this is this is kind of part of it,
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  even though it doesn't necessarily mention this specific um subtopic. The the incident
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  of Emmett Till's murder, and you know the death of his accuser, and
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  you know, honestly, I think it's probably could have, but it wouldn't
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  really need to, so, he writes. In a paper published a few
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  days ago, it was found that people, especially women, are more willing
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  to accept men being harmed than women being harmed. Many people won't be surprised
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  by this, They might even find it obvious, and lots of people will
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  think there's nothing wrong with it. After all, men are traditionally the protectors
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  of others, even said to be more disposable than women and children. And
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  although these are painful ideas for some people, a long history of nature and
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  nurture seems to underline this point. Even today, we see that even though
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  men make up at least a third of victims of domestic violence, and that's
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  at least because we don't really know if you know, like that, Just
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  as side to the article, it's harder for men to report, and it's
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  harder for men to be taken seriously when they report, so we don't know
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  how many men aren't being counted as opposed to like women. We know that
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  women have all kinds of organizations to help them, and we don't know how
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  many false accusers are being counted among women. So the minimum men make up
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  is a third. Men are probably in my opinion, just from reading the
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  statistics on self reported behavior and on reported behavior reported experiences, and also the
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  social tolerance for female perpetrated abuse, I would suspect that men are more like
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  seventy of domestic violence victims. It's just that there are things that men don't
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  complain about that women complain about, and then there are complaints that men could
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  make that don't get taken seriously unless the complaint is coming from a woman and
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  is about the behavior of a man. Just just a caveat there. But
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  and he said, the male victims often go unrecognized and unsupported, as demonstrated
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  by the UK government, which categorizes violence against women and girls as a national
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  threat but struggles to even compile the most basic statistics on male victims. A
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  national threat a national threat. Half of the country is under attack, everybody,
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  it's a national threat. Like this is not even close reality. This
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  is gaslighting on like of the highest order, you know, just to try
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  to get people to support this stupid fucking measure. And I want to point
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  out when we use the phrase domestic violence or partner violence and meant partner violence
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  in the United States, what is being talked about in terms of how the
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  domestic violence victims advocacy industry treats it is anything from like the stereotypical beating on
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  each other with fists, using weapons, threatening to kill, things like that,
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  to controlling each other's finances, cheating, bad mouthing each other. Domestic
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  violence can be entirely verbal and still be considered domestic violence. I meant partner
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  violence, and um, who's not muted that needs to be muted, like
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  Chad's mentioning it. Oh, it might be as probably you Lauren, Yeah,
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  I think so. Yeah, I can see it in discord. There
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  we go. But but yeah, when you look at this, like,
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  we're not talking about just necessarily what you would consider violence. If you hear
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  the word violence, you think of physical action against another person. A woman
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  who doesn't have a job chooses not to have a job and then is told
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  that she cannot spend more money on credit than the husband makes can file a
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  complaint that she's being abused by her husband. If a husband tells his wife
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  that she's not pretty anymore, right, that that can be considered abuse.
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  And these are things like especially if he says it a lot right, Well,
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  you used to be really hot, but now you're fat and ugly,
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  like pretty much all of the verbal exchanges in the TV show Married with Children,
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  for those in the United States would constitute domestic violence under the way domestic
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  violence is measured. But the organizations that do that would only consider al Bundy's
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  words to be domestic violence. They wouldn't treat everything that Peggy says that's just
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  as mean, that's just as as caustic and venomous toward her husband. I
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  believe that domestic violence. I believe the active adjective is proxy. A lot
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  of this is called proxy violence. And yet it never occurs to anyone that
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  the idea of proxy should perhaps be reduced because what is this proxy exactly?
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  The proxy is the government. That is, if a woman wants to enact
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  violence on a man, she does it through the proxy of the police,
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  of the government. And none of the people who are calling for the defunding
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  of the police, Well, we'll ever do it in light of the way
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  that women enact violence on men via the proxy of the government. And see,
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  that's another thing that's a domestic violence that women don't generally face. You
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  don't see hordes of men accusing women of violence they didn't engage in, because
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  why would they. Nobody's going to listen. And the motivation behind making a
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  false allegation of domestic violence or partner sexual violence and includes the expectation that one
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  will be believed and the action will be taken on the basis of the allegation.
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  Will men don't have those two factors, right, They can't count on
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  that, So accusing the woman of violence when she didn't engage in it would
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  be more risk than anything for a guy. So it's it's almost, um,
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  it's fair to say that it's probably, if not a completely unique experience
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  to men. It's at least incredibly rare that women are subjected to this by
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  male partners, and especially in regard to community action like involving police or organizations.
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  So again, you know, we're looking at a situation where even with
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  all of those factors, we know from the incidents of domestic violence that these
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  organizations cannot ignore when men experience it, and that that police can't just dismiss,
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  and the courts can't just dismiss. We know that they make up at
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  least a third of victims. But you know, statistics or statistically, in
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  terms of perpetration, women initiate about seventy percent of the time when only one
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  person is initiating violence, and we know that about two thirds of violence,
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  about fifty seven percent is is two way, and it's unlikely that those women
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  are dramatically different from other women. It's it's more likely that women are initiating
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  in that instance at about seventy percent as well. And one of the other
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  factors, like when we hear about the stereotypical domestic violence where the man injures
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  the woman, that's that's usually a situation. The biggest predictor of that happening
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  is actually the woman's perpetration, her initiating violence. And so I mean,
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  if you if you back somebody in a corner and you continue to engage in
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  violence against that person until they have to try to escape you, or they
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  snap and can no longer control their impulse to defend themselves, they're going to
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  be a lot more violent than they would be in that moment because they're they're
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  going to be panicked, or they're going to be enraged, or you know,
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  they're gonna snap, Like they're going to be a lot more violent in
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  that moment than they would be if they just got angry and initiated violence,
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  or if you know that this was a more calm situation. And I don't
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  think people understand when we're talking about two way domestic violence where the woman initiates
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  violence, but then she's the one that gets injured. We could a lot
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  of feminists will respond to discussion of that as if we're talking about it like
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  it's fair. Well, it doesn't really matter whether it's fair or not.
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  It's realistic. It's not fair that your whole house burns down because you didn't
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  pay attention for a minute when you were frying something on the stove. I
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  mean, your attention only lapsed for a minute. Like, it's not fair
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  to lose your whole house because of that. But it's possible, and it's
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  possible because a series of unfortunate events can happen. The fire can catch onto
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  something like the curtains and you know, in the window, or you may
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  have grease in your grease trap that you didn't realize was was thick and flammable.
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  You know, you may panic yourself and accidentally throw the pan, which
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  happened one time when I was in the room. Thank goodness that I actually
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  had the baking soda in my hand at the moment. Wow. Like yeah,
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  I had one friend who was very jumpy and we were we were cooking,
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  and she set the kitchen on fire. Um. She just turned away
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  a minute for a minute, turned back and there's a pan and the only
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  thing that stopped the fire was like I just in without even thinking about it,
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  just turned around and you know, through baking powder or baking soda.
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  Sorry, not powder that would be flammable, but baking soda all over the
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  fire. Um, don't do that, by the way, don't test that
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  it's not safe. Yeah no um gin bottle in the chat, says doctor,
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  or a heavy frying pan. And that's a very good point. Yeah,
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  as as I think I I got across at some point in some other
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  show, um them the great equalizer. Um. When it comes to men
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  and women in relationships, people like to say if God made man um Sam
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  cult made man equal because of the mention of the gun. But when it
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  comes to the relationship between men and women, they were already equal long before
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  the invention of Sam Cult's revolver, because if you're sleeping next to someone,
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  then you didn't even need the gun to be the great equalizer. Anything can
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  be the great equalizer between two people who are sleeping next to each other,
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  which has always been the case with men and women. A frying pan can
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  indeed be the great equalizer. A large rock can be the great equalizer between
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  two people who are sleeping with each other, which which throws a big old
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  wrench into this whole idea that men have always had the upper hand physically over
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  women. No, they haven't, because men and women have always had this
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  relationship where where they are so intrinsically interlocked together in terms of relationships that they
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  sleep next to each other. They necessarily sleep next to each other, and
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  so neither of them has the upper hand over the other, because if either
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  of them feels like picking up a large rock and smashing it over the head
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  of the other, then then they have the upper hand, and so neither
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  has the upper hand because they go together. Yeah, intrinsically. In fact,
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  you don't even have to have strength. Depah Ponti has has actually got
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  men's stories up on her YouTube channel. She did the most extensive research that's
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  been done to date worldwide on men's experience of coercive control, and a coercive
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  control is often supported by violence or threats of violence. And like she head,
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  she had one respondent in her survey that explained to her that his wife
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  had poured boiling water on him while he slept. Um. So, I
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  mean we're talking anything anything that will do harm. Women use poison, um,
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  women have killed with rat poison. Um. Then look, then you
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  get caught with rat poison, thank god. But lorraina Bobbit cut off her
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  husband's johnson while he was asleep. I mean, there's there's no telling what
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  to do that, right, No, you know, there's no There's a
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  number of things that you can do to someone when they are unconscious. It
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  is really difficult to cut out a woman's vagina while she sleeps, really,
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  I mean, I mean, like there's there's a lot of nerves down there.
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  Um. But and the thing is it's not something you could do quickly
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  either, right. This is this was something she was able to do quickly,
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  and like that could have killed him. There's a lot of blood vessels
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  there, Um that that could have been deadly, that could have he would
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  have bled out. But there's there's a lot of different ways that women do
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  harm that don't require them to be bigger, stronger, faster even, don't
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  require them necessarily to be smarter than men, just meaner m hm, you
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  know, and uh so yeah, um and and a lot of things like
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  I've I've used this example now I think a million times. But if you
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  take the gender out of it, you talk about two people in a public
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  place, like at a bus stop, and and one of them says something
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  rude and uh, disrespectful. You may be degrading, you know, sexually
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  explicit. Whatever. One says something like that to the other one, and
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  the other one hauls off, you know, A says says that B hauls
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  off and slaps A for the offense. Right, if they're both men,
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  everybody recognizes that, Well, he's an asshole, and B can't take getting
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  ribbed, so he's violent. He has he has a hair trigger temper.
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  Right, they both did something wrong. One was abusive, the other one
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  escalated from verbal abuse to violence and easy to easy to recognize. The same
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  thing with women. You know, Um, if if one woman is shouting
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  insults and another woman hauls off and hits her, you know, people are
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  like, well you lost your composure, right, But as soon as they're
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  opposite sex, if the person who says something degrading is male, that gets
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  treated like it's bigger than the violence that the woman reacts with, like she
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  can slap the shit out of him, and people are going to be making
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  excuses. Well, look, listen to what he said. I would slap
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  him too if I was her, Like, that's that's the way they respond.
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  But turn it around the other way. What if the person who said
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  something degrading and sexually explicit was the woman? You know? And it could
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  even be the same. Your your genitals smell terrible. I can smell your
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  genitals from here. You haven't taken a bath in months? What's wrong with
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  you? Right? Just something along those lines, Right, it doesn't matter
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  male or female. You just don't say that to a stranger. It's rude,
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  But you don't necessarily slap someone for saying that, Like, that's not
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  they're not violent, they're not chasing you. You can walk away from that
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  you can say, God, that was rude. You know, that's just
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  disgusting. Why would you say something like that to a stranger? But you
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  don't have to react to that because it's just words. If a man react
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  by slapping a woman for saying something like that, all hell breaks loose.
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  The nearest other guys are going to beat the hell out of him for it
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  because he hit a woman. Other women are going to treat her like a
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  victim and support her because you know, a man hit her like either way,
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  a woman can get away with whatever she does on either side of that
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  engagement, and no matter what part of it the man is involved in,
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  his behavior is viewed as worse than hers. And that's that's basically why we
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  are in this situation where we see we see more statistics on women and girls
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  reporting domestic violence and fewer statistics on male victims. We don't even always recognize
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  when a man has been abused, so but he goes on. The new
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  paper by doctor Tanya Reynolds University of New Mexico and colleagues was based done a
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  series of three experiments involving over six hundred participants. The findings lend support to
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  what we already know about the gender empathy gap, gamma bias, and the
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  sex difference in in group bias. So the empathy gap is basically in that
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  scenario I explained before, people will recognize that the woman is insulted when the
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  man says something rude. They'll recognize that it might hurt her feelings or embarrass
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  her, and they'll treat that as something she shouldn't have to experience, whereas
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  they won't necessarily when a man is the one being insulted, they'll they'll be
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  like, aren't you man enough to take that? I mean, she she
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  just said something rude to you. Get over it and move on, you
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  know. In reverse, if she is hit, people will consider her pain
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  and suffering and her fear they'll consider they'll consider it part of a collective experience
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  among women. And if he's the one that gets hit, people will just
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  say that he deserved it, right. They won't treat it as something they
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  won't consider his pain and suffering, or if they do, they'll they'll tell
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  him, you know, if you don't want to experience that, don't be
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  a rude asshole. Nobody will tell a woman that that's the empathy game,
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  right. The game of bias is the fact that people have that attitude toward
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  women. They're going to care about her welfare, they're going to care about
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  her experiences, and they're going to care about her as a member of a
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  demographic, not just her personally. But they'll care about her vulnerability and she'll
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  he'll she'll be visible in terms of her vulnerability, her experiences, her reactions,
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  her emotions, any injury she might suffer, um and so on.
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  Because she's female. Men do not receive that. Yeah, I was gonna
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  ask you what the game of biases, but I think you explained it beautifully
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  and now it's it's essentially um a, it's it's kind of centrism. Mm
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  hmmm um. And and then the in group bias, the different sex difference
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  and in group bias women have in group bias men don't. That's that's the
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  first thing. Not as a gender. Men will have in group bias for
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  their team against another team, but they don't make their gender their team,
• 31:40
  right, women do so I guess that's the best way to describe the sex
• 31:47
  difference in in group bias. Um. If this female favoring phenomenon is a
• 31:51
  hint that mother nature protects population growth by making the lives of men less valuable
• 31:56
  than women. Then it's grim news for me and explains why people would care
• 32:00
  less about men. So I want to point something out in regard to that.
• 32:05
  Um, we hear a lot in the men's rights movement about something called
• 32:09
  natural guinna centrism, and I have a theory about that. You think every
• 32:15
  everybody explains the idea of natural gyna centrism the same way. Right. The
• 32:22
  explanation that for why guyna centrism is natural and inevitable is you have to protect
• 32:30
  the mothers of society's children, right, You have to make sure that women
• 32:35
  are able to continue to have babies and raise those babies. That makes women
• 32:42
  important, not because they're women, but because they have babies. So that's
• 32:47
  I don't think that's gind of centrism. I think that's gene centric. I
• 32:52
  think, you know, in in terms of you know, passing on your
• 32:54
  DNA, and I think it's child centric because we do protect children they are
• 32:59
  vulnerable. What we see in dinocentrism today the idea of women deserving more compassion
• 33:07
  and more recognition of their experiences because they're female, just because they're female,
• 33:16
  like, there's nothing in nature that makes that normal or necessary. And if
• 33:23
  you look at like, I can't think of the name of the movie it
• 33:30
  has. I think Peers Braston as a scientist or something. It was a
• 33:37
  movie about a volcano that was erupting, and this family is trying to get
• 33:42
  away from the lava flow and the disaster basically, and there's a grandmother with
• 33:52
  them. It's been years since I've seen this, so I don't know.
• 33:54
  The movie might even have been called Volcano or Dante's Peak or something like that.
• 34:00
  Um. But they get to this point where they have to cross a
• 34:04
  body of water to get away from it, and they get into a boat
• 34:07
  and they start across and it turns out that this water has been subjected to
• 34:13
  one of the phenomena that happens with volcanoes. Um. Okay, night motorcyclist
• 34:17
  says Volcano was Tommy Lee Jones, So I'm pretty sure I think Dante's Peak
• 34:22
  is the one. Um Q brother Soul Star confirms. But and and they're
• 34:29
  they're they're trying to get away. Yes, Pierce Brosnan was in Dante's Peak.
• 34:34
  Um, They're trying to get away. They get into this water in
• 34:36
  this boat. The water starts eating through the boat because um substance is leaking
• 34:42
  sulfur. I think leaking into the water from underground has made it acidic.
• 34:47
  And they're not going to make it across. And either they're gonna sink and
• 34:52
  everybody in the boat is going to be severely injured and die, or somebody
• 34:57
  is going to have to get out and push Um they can't propelled themselves fast
• 35:00
  enough to get across, or they've lost there, or something along those lines
• 35:05
  has happened. And the grandmother gets out and pushes. He doesn't. She
• 35:09
  does. And the reason that she makes this decision is because she's lived her
• 35:16
  life. She doesn't need to have babies anymore. She doesn't need to raise
• 35:21
  babies anymore. She became more disposable than the young man because he is needed.
• 35:28
  The family depends on him. So natural guyna centrism is kind of bullshit,
• 35:35
  Like that makes sense in that movie, and it fits in that movie
• 35:39
  because guya centrism historically has been based on women's utilitarian service to children, not
• 35:53
  women just being special because female. So in terms of this, if the
• 36:02
  female favoring phenomenon is a hint that mother nature protects population growth by making the
• 36:07
  lives of men less valuable than women. Then it's grim news for men and
• 36:10
  explains why people would care less about men that kind of I would say,
• 36:22
  we do have a belief in terms of that, we do have a belief
• 36:25
  that this is the case, and I think we have a society wide belief
• 36:29
  right now that this is the case. But I don't think it's natural.
• 36:31
  I don't think it's inevitable. And I think we can recover from that.
• 36:36
  We can get our society if we use logic and reason. We can get
• 36:40
  our society back to a point where we recognize that human life is valuable regardless
• 36:46
  of the sex of the human life, and that we should not take away
• 36:52
  people's rights because somebody else is considered more human on the basis of their sex.
• 37:00
  But that's that's that's just that's my take on it, and it's it's
• 37:05
  something that I recently began talking about with Peter Wright, and we're sort of
• 37:09
  expanding on it in a couple of locations. One is, uh, the
• 37:20
  Wikipedia for men, I can't remember what it's called Wikimania, and the other
• 37:23
  ones on his blog. So but um, this article goes on and makes
• 37:31
  a similar point, let's not get too gloomy. And this is a part
• 37:35
  that I really am excited about. UM A survey of twenty two thousand,
• 37:42
  two hundred and eight adults in thirty two countries. So this is a big
• 37:46
  wide survey, lots of people, lots of countries. UM, very big
• 37:52
  sample, not something that should be easily dismissed. Suggest that a large number
• 37:57
  of people do care about men's well being after all. The survey published by
• 38:00
  the Global Institute for Women's Leadership on March eighth, International Women's Day, found
• 38:07
  that, on average, across all countries and age groups, forty eight percent
• 38:13
  of participants agreed somewhat or strongly that we have gone so far in promoting women's
• 38:19
  equality that we are discriminating against men. Wow. Forty eight percent of people
• 38:28
  in a five digits large sample size that is a worldwide sample size, recognized
• 38:40
  that we have gone so far in promoting women's equality that we are discriminating against
• 38:45
  men. Can we even call it women's equality? Of this point? What
• 38:52
  point can that majority of people come to acknowledge that what we are talking about
• 39:00
  is not women's equality. That's going to be a tougher one it's something else.
• 39:06
  I wonder if anyone can perhaps describe it for me. Yeah, well,
• 39:12
  when you have um all of the privileges that go along with your civil
• 39:17
  rights being respected, but none of the responsibilities that go along with it,
• 39:22
  I would say that's considered supremacy. It makes you an aristocracy, right,
• 39:28
  But it's not. It's not. It's not even women's supremacy. It's men's
• 39:31
  inferiority. Yeah. I mean you might say that that necessarily um uh denotes
• 39:42
  women's supremacy, but it's not even that. It's it's it's men's um inferiority.
• 39:52
  They're they're not even prepared to confirm that that means women are superior.
• 40:00
  They're far more interesting, they're far more interested in in confirming that men are
• 40:06
  inferior um. I think with supremacy, though, I don't think that they're
• 40:10
  necessarily um interchangeable supremacy and superiority, because when you look at supremacy movements,
• 40:17
  it's usually people demanding privilege without accountability, or demanding special treatment that isn't offered
• 40:25
  to everybody else. Um. But yeah, that's that's what I mean.
• 40:30
  It's it's it's not it's not even a female's supremacy movement. It's it's a
• 40:37
  movement that um that means men need to do everything women tell them to do.
• 40:45
  So it's not even supremacy versus inferiority. It's there aren't even words that
• 40:52
  can express what this is about. It's that men need to do everything that
• 40:58
  women tell them, which isn't yes, supremacy and inferiority. It's I mean,
• 41:08
  the closest with aristocracy. It's something too with our It's like it's like
• 41:15
  a safe trade. I mean, can I say that? Can I even
• 41:21
  say that, well, you went to be alone? A lot of us
• 41:23
  have said have made the comparison, especially in terms of the male provider role
• 41:30
  and how that is enforced in say custody and child support laws and alimony laws.
• 41:37
  When what else would you call having a court order somebody to labor in
• 41:44
  exchange for resources that are going to be provided to somebody else and not theirs
• 41:50
  to spend. That's that's slavery. That's what slavery is where where a person
• 41:54
  is forced because the court, when a court orders something like that, um,
• 42:00
  the punishment if you fail to abide by the ruling and do what the
• 42:05
  court ordered you to do is jail, and jail is men and women coming
• 42:12
  to force you into the back of a car. You go to a hearing,
• 42:15
  and then men and women force you into a cell a cage, right,
• 42:22
  So that's that's force, That's that's violence. Putting someone in jail is
• 42:27
  violence. So under threat of violence and men are ordered to labor for the
• 42:34
  financial benefit of someone other than themselves, that's slavery. What else would you
• 42:42
  call it? There is no other name for that. But we can't call
• 42:45
  it slavery because it's so normal while we outlawed it, so of course we
• 42:51
  can't call it slavery. Silly to say slavery used to be pretty normal.
• 42:55
  It's just instead of it used to involve some sort of conquering. Women don't
• 43:00
  even have to conquer men for that. All I have to do is get
• 43:02
  other people to do it. Uh. And for for the longest time,
• 43:07
  there were not female police officers. They were just male police officers. But
• 43:10
  I mean, now you know, you can get thrown in jail by an
• 43:15
  egalitarian police force that might all be fucking each other. When when when the
• 43:21
  department is you know, closed for the night, Um, like we don't
• 43:24
  we don't know there's been some new stories that came out recently about that.
• 43:30
  But yeah, like that, that's that's slavery. There's there's no better way
• 43:36
  to describe that. And women are entitled to mail labor man man Man put
• 43:42
  it very very simply. There under the law, if she has your baby,
• 43:49
  or if you've been married for ten years, she's entitled to your labor.
• 43:52
  Yeah, and for some reason, I would I would consider men who
• 44:01
  are subject to child support orders to be oppressed. That's oppression. Slavery is
• 44:07
  oppression, right, Men who are falsely accused and go through false allegation ordeals,
• 44:13
  those men are oppressed. They're they're suffering systemic violence. And all that
• 44:21
  it takes to create that violence, to cause that violence is for a woman
• 44:27
  to say a few words. They have to defend peacefully while at a disadvantage
• 44:35
  against that violence. So that's but I would say, just the average guy
• 44:37
  walking down the street, I don't. I won't turn into a feminist.
• 44:42
  Feminist will say I'm oppressed because I'm female. I'm clearly not like I'm doing
• 44:47
  something because I want to do it. I'm doing the job I want to
• 44:53
  do, and I don't if there isn't anybody doing anything like that to me.
• 45:00
  Right, nobody's forcing me to do anything. I could switch what I'm
• 45:02
  doing right now. I could turn on the movement and I would find a
• 45:07
  place in another movement. Nobody would like. Obviously, people within the movement
• 45:12
  would recognize that that was a betrayal and it would be horrible, you know,
• 45:16
  an awful thing for me to do. But I would immediately get support
• 45:22
  from feminists, and feminist media would immediately start using my story against the movement
• 45:29
  like that kind of thing. You can't consider someone oppressed who has that kind
• 45:32
  of power, right, That's that's bullshit. Needless to say, I sorry,
• 45:42
  I will try to say this without slurring. Needless to say, I
• 45:50
  could. I could opt out of this whole system. I could call myself
• 46:02
  an MRI or a maketow. Either way, UM, I don't see how
• 46:13
  any of this helps me. It doesn't matter what I call myself. But
• 46:20
  I suppose if I opt out out of all of this, I could call
• 46:25
  myself a maketow. And it's only a matter of time before the government under
• 46:34
  which I live, that's grammatically correct, under which I live it's not going
• 46:43
  to help me, because sooner or later the government under which I live is
• 46:50
  going to tell me that being a maketow is some kind of hate group,
• 46:59
  or being being an mra is some kind of hate group. So it doesn't
• 47:04
  matter what I call myself. If if if I don't go along with just
• 47:13
  go ahead and marry a woman, And if you're not able to marry a
• 47:17
  woman, or if you don't want to marry a woman, then the government
• 47:24
  under which you live, it's sooner or later going to figure out that you're
• 47:30
  so kind of terrorist. Well if they'll figure out a way to tax you
• 47:37
  even more than they already do. See, that's the thing. If you
• 47:42
  don't get married and you're not supporting an individual woman and children financially, you
• 47:47
  pay more taxes and you pay for the welfare that is received by women who
• 47:57
  have babies with men who aren't going to support them. Yep, and uh,
• 48:02
  you know that's like that's that's the bottom line. The government will figure
• 48:07
  out a way to make you pay. And then on top of that,
• 48:12
  on top of finding a way to make you pay, then they also demonize
• 48:16
  you as a terrorist. Yeah, one way or another, you could try
• 48:23
  to get off the grid. God, you know you will not be able
• 48:32
  to get off the grid. About about ten years ago, I was in
• 48:37
  an argument I swear it was on Facebook um about this with some some friends
• 48:45
  like more local than you know, not necessarily MRA's um about the level of
• 48:53
  freedom that we have in the United States, And no, it was on
• 48:58
  it was it was on gather dot com and it was more than ten years
• 49:01
  But basically, like there's a whole movement for off grid living here of especially
• 49:08
  if you go out west, there's a whole movement of people living without grid
• 49:15
  water and without grid electricity, without grid gas. They just they have passive
• 49:23
  heat, they have solar power, they have wind power, they have some
• 49:27
  of them have geothermal heat. Some of them have water power like and they
• 49:34
  don't. They're more minimalist. A lot of them are homesteaders. They don't
• 49:37
  necessarily get most of their food from the grocery store. A lot of them
• 49:40
  are hunters, and in a area that's more sparsely populated, they've been able
• 49:47
  to do that for years. But a lady tried to do the same thing
• 49:52
  in Florida where she was going to go off grid in terms of water,
• 49:58
  and she created her own water treatments them and she had clean water, she
• 50:02
  was capable of creating clean water, and they went after her, condemned her
• 50:07
  property because she didn't have she didn't have a way to receive city water,
• 50:15
  and basically evicted her, made her homeless and if I remember right, prosecuted
• 50:21
  her for stealing rainwater. Yeah, I was just about to say that I
• 50:28
  don't understand that there's there's states that you cannot collect rainwater like California. Who
• 50:36
  are they seem to perennially be going through these droughts right, but yet and
• 50:42
  still when they have like massive downpours like they just had, they're not allowed
• 50:49
  to collect the rainwater. I don't and I understand what it is. It's
• 50:53
  big corporation, specifically Nestly that owns um. I forget what the water source
• 51:00
  it is. That's it's like right there. They they won't let California use
• 51:07
  the water. Instead, instead Nestley owns the water source. They bottle it
• 51:12
  and sell it instead. It's it's oh my god. The motivations behind so
• 51:20
  many laws are just completely fucking backwards and and only really exists to benefit like
• 51:29
  big corporations like Nestley for the government or the government. Like when your water
• 51:36
  rights are controlled by the government. You you pretty much are are screwed.
• 51:39
  You can't live without water? Yeah, um, and and that's into right,
• 51:45
  It isn't isn't that on the list of like basic human rights? Like,
• 51:51
  isn't that something that I don't have to read the UN's charter. You
• 51:55
  know what they're what they're about, what they stand for. But I'm pretty
• 52:00
  sure when there's no water in Africa or there's like a water there's a shortage
• 52:05
  of clean water, the UN sure shit steps into try to solve that problem.
• 52:12
  Right, But we're not allowed to collect the thing that falls from the
• 52:17
  sky. Oh my god, it just drives me mad, It drives me
• 52:24
  insane, all right, And that that's that's pretty much government in a nutshell.
• 52:30
  Yeah, you know this, this nobody produces this. It is part
• 52:35
  of the environment. It falls from the sky and lands on your property,
• 52:37
  but it belongs to us, right, you can't touch it, right,
• 52:42
  even if their reservoirs are full, even if they can't do anything with it,
• 52:45
  doesn't matter. Mum. So yeah, Now, granted there are places
• 52:51
  where you should not catch water and a rain barrel and just leave it because
• 52:55
  you get mosquitoes and mosquitoes carry West Nile and West Nile can be deadly,
• 53:00
  but that's a whole different story. That's not why you're being limited. It's
• 53:05
  they don't accuse you of stealing something to prevent that you get told this is
• 53:10
  a bad idea, and there are things you can do. You can treat
• 53:13
  your water to prevent mosquitoes from hatching in it. So there's all that.
• 53:19
  But yeah, in terms of recognition here that you know we've gone, we've
• 53:25
  gone so far in promoting women's interests, which is what really has happened.
• 53:31
  Granted, the survey came from a women's group, so they're not going to
• 53:37
  say that, but we've gone so far in promoting women's interests as defined by
• 53:44
  feminism that we are discriminating against men. And if people recognize that now that
• 53:52
  I would say, in instances where that discrimination is obvious and the damage that
• 53:59
  it does to society and not just the individual man that it's happening to,
• 54:04
  is obvious, we may be able to see more public support for initiatives to
• 54:09
  change right. For instance, if there is recognition, widespread recognition fathers are
• 54:19
  being discriminated against, and there is widespread recognition that not only does this harm
• 54:23
  the father who faces that discrimination and that it takes away a relationship that is
• 54:30
  a focus of his life purpose and may lead to suicide, but also that
• 54:37
  it's damaging to the child who loses that relationship with father, that mentorship and
• 54:43
  that love and care and dedication and provision and protection. That will result in
• 54:52
  more widespread support for protection of paternal custody and so more widespread support for fifty
• 54:58
  fifty shared parenting. And people I've I've been in conversations with people where you
• 55:04
  know, I've talked about father's rights, and one of the first things they
• 55:07
  say back to me when I explain what father's rights positions are is that,
• 55:15
  you know, feminists want women to have full custody. Feminists are fighting to
• 55:17
  exclude fathers from children's lives but still collect money from the father. All father's
• 55:24
  rights activists men's rights activists are looking for is fifty fifty shared custody and to
• 55:32
  have child support be fair. Like most men's rights activists aren't even trying to
• 55:38
  eliminate child support. I think it should be eliminated. I don't think it's
• 55:44
  necessarily beneficial to the child, but but most people aren't trying to make the
• 55:54
  government stop forcing men to pay child support. Most people aren't in the movement,
• 56:00
  aren't trying to have those laws repealed. They're looking for reform that would
• 56:08
  reduce the amount to a reasonable level so that the father's not made homeless,
• 56:14
  and that would hold the woman accountable, the mother accountable for how she spends
• 56:19
  it so that she's not getting the child support and then going out and buying
• 56:23
  frivolous things and then coming back and saying she's not getting enough because she can't
• 56:27
  afford things for the child. Yeah, and then there's there's plenty of other
• 56:31
  things that need to be corrected or repealed and amended. I mean, I
• 56:37
  mean, just the idea is that if you're late or behind on your payments,
• 56:40
  then you could lose your driver's license and therefore your ability to even earn
• 56:45
  an income. Yeah, to push you for failing to pay your child support
• 56:52
  on time, we're gonna make it harder for you to pay it at all.
• 56:55
  Right, it's just brilliant. So heys on the head backwards like I
• 57:01
  just don't get it, and you know, it only makes sense because it
• 57:07
  comes from the government. Right. But they will never they will never give
• 57:14
  up the power that they have, especially because as we all know, they
• 57:19
  get kick back for it every child that goes into the system. The that
• 57:24
  the state government of that state, they get money for every child that gets
• 57:30
  put into that system. They will not let that revenue go, you know's
• 57:37
  it's yeah, we have to break down, um, the system quite a
• 57:40
  bit in order to fix this problem. That's that's evident. That's a big
• 57:46
  issue. But uh and yeah, there's a title four d um. That's
• 57:53
  it. It's it's the uh, it's part of the Contract for America.
• 58:02
  So this was this was a Republican gig. This was a right wing thing,
• 58:07
  I think. But they basically incentivized collection of child support by the states
• 58:15
  by reimbursing the state for every dollars spent in the course of collecting child support.
• 58:24
  Now, Republicans in Ohio knew this was coming. They like they knew
• 58:29
  Bush was going to get elected, They knew the Congress was going to be
• 58:32
  mostly Republican. They knew the contract from America that Newt Gingrich was talking about
• 58:38
  at that time was going to be put into place. And in preparation for
• 58:44
  all of that, they the state of Ohio mandated that men who pay child
• 58:51
  support have to pay through the state. They can't just pay directly to the
• 58:54
  mother. You can't write or a check and put child support in the menu
• 58:58
  or memo and it counts. You have to pay through the child support enforce
• 59:04
  them meant agency through wage garnishment, and by doing that, they made all
• 59:10
  child support payments eligible for federal reimbursement. So if you live in a state
• 59:17
  that has a low divorce rate and you're having the shit tax out of you
• 59:21
  because you maybe are not married, you you know, don't don't support a
• 59:27
  family, and so you don't get the child tax credit, make more than
• 59:32
  a poverty wage. You're paying the state of Ohio to pretend that they have
• 59:43
  to collect child support from every non custodial father in the state or they won't
• 59:50
  pay it. It's not really necessary, but you're still paying for that,
• 59:58
  Yeah, through the federal gu Just just so you know, um, we
• 1:00:02
  have a couple of those super chats. Iron Maiden gave us five dollars and
• 1:00:07
  then two dollars with a type of correction, So I'm just going to combine
• 1:00:10
  this in the once we gave us seven dollars. USD said, can you
• 1:00:15
  sue Nestle if their water falls on your property, which sorry, then I
• 1:00:22
  love that. Can you sue Nestle if their water falls on your property or
• 1:00:27
  if the hail um because hail is made of water, damage is your car,
• 1:00:35
  that's that's great. And if you have a leaky roof and it rains
• 1:00:40
  and it's Nestle's water and your house is damaged, your water landed on my
• 1:00:46
  roof, stop that from happening. You think that's your roof you're breathing.
• 1:00:54
  It belongs to the bank. By the way, your roof belongs to the
• 1:00:58
  bank, just so you know. Oh, and the county or the state
• 1:01:02
  where you're paying your your property taxes. But so the state, the state
• 1:01:09
  you live in, should sue nest Lee in the bank should sue Nestley for
• 1:01:15
  damaging their property that you live on, that you paid for. And so
• 1:01:21
  you know the mean, Yes, it's not really a meme because this is
• 1:01:25
  kind of what they want. You will own nothing and be happy. Well,
• 1:01:30
  we were like almost halfway there, because you really don't own anything.
• 1:01:37
  You get taxed on everything. Yes, I'll understand why I'm an a cap
• 1:01:42
  now ya. See in the movie Popeye with Robin Williams with the tax collector
• 1:01:50
  that that's running around taxing the shit out of everything, and at one point
• 1:01:53
  he charges thumb tax. No, like, that's that's not an exaggeration.
• 1:02:02
  That's what life is really like. It's just not um it's just not funny
• 1:02:07
  in reality. Yeah, well not funny ha ha. It's more funny like
• 1:02:13
  how George Thorogood means it when he when he says, now you're funny too
• 1:02:16
  in the song one Bourbon, one Scotch, and one beer. But yeah,
• 1:02:24
  perhaps we could try um Ron Paul's idea. I mean, I know
• 1:02:31
  Ron Paul's fucking practicularly dead at this point, but maybe given how often Ron
• 1:02:38
  Paul has been breed, right, maybe maybe we could elect some kind of
• 1:02:45
  candidate somewhere in the world along the lines of what Ron Paul was talking about,
• 1:02:53
  Like, maybe we could like fuck the Democrat Party, fuck the Republican
• 1:02:58
  Party. May maybe we could just not do all Maybe maybe we could actually
• 1:03:06
  uh defund all all of these unelected bureaucracies. Yeah, making everyone's lives worse?
• 1:03:17
  Maybe can we not? Can we not? Even? Is there anyone
• 1:03:22
  here we can elect who can do that for us? I guess not.
• 1:03:28
  No, they're all on the take, man, they're all they're all in
• 1:03:32
  the uniparty we did. If we did the federal government's immune system, the
• 1:03:38
  immune system controlled by the bureaucratic mind virus. Right, the walk mind virus
• 1:03:46
  is an outreach of the bureaucratic mind virus. Um would would just react to
• 1:03:52
  it like an immune system does. The person would be under attack constantly.
• 1:03:57
  They would have a full tenure year in office of getting accused of one thing
• 1:04:02
  after another. There would be legal action taking again, taking against them,
• 1:04:06
  over and over again. There would be action taken to try to remove them
• 1:04:10
  from office. Then the entire news media, the whole establishment news media,
• 1:04:15
  would demonize them and simultaneously ridicule them. M Oh wait, we had that.
• 1:04:23
  We had a candidate that just went through that, a politician in office
• 1:04:29
  that really wasn't a politician until he ran for president, that just went through
• 1:04:33
  that. But I don't He wasn't even going to break down the whole government.
• 1:04:38
  He was just going to hold the Justice Department accountable counter and make some
• 1:04:43
  reforms in the Education Department, in the tax department, they were still going
• 1:04:46
  to be there. Imagine if somebody like me wanted to be president. Well,
• 1:04:53
  what's what's your what's your platform? Well, I'm running on a platform
• 1:04:56
  of getting rid of most of the federal government, Like all these apartments that
• 1:05:01
  create policy that gets treated as law without ever being voted on by anybody that
• 1:05:08
  you voted for or against. Um, they're gone. Like, we don't
• 1:05:12
  need the federal Department of Education. We don't need a your Internal Revenue Service,
• 1:05:16
  We really don't need any of that. We don't need a federal environmental
• 1:05:21
  agency all that. Like, if I ran for president, they would kill
• 1:05:27
  me. Oh my god, so many people would be out of jobs.
• 1:05:31
  I wouldn't win. I'm serious. If I announced and I ran on the
• 1:05:35
  platform that I would run on, let's let's just they would kill you would
• 1:05:40
  Let's let's let's imagine a world would yes, yeah, I would like that
• 1:05:49
  plays a whole lot better. Hello, Hello, Bret Bong here you you'll
• 1:05:56
  you'll enacted a fucking civil war of not buying tea by all means, don't
• 1:06:05
  buy tea. I don't even like tea. Fucking fucking enact another civil war
• 1:06:12
  over not buying the fucking Federal Reserve or whatever it is, buying whatever it
• 1:06:19
  is, Like, Yeah, I can't I I can't even say what it
• 1:06:28
  is. But you're fucking bloody, bustard, You're bloody and fucking given how
• 1:06:38
  much tea you threw into the fucking Boston harbor, throw all of throw all
• 1:06:44
  of them. And I can't think of an analogy as as to what kind
• 1:06:50
  of chemicals you're gonna throw into the Boston Harbor. There's probably enough chemicals in
• 1:06:56
  there now. And to be honest, but no, what what we're paying
• 1:07:00
  for, what we're paying for and when we when we pay for the government
• 1:07:03
  that we have now in the United States is the illusion of safety, which
• 1:07:10
  is what most safety nets really are, right, the illusion of safety that
• 1:07:15
  is uh, that is that is pretty much it. So we would have
• 1:07:20
  to throw our our illusion of safety in Boston Harbor, which would probably end
• 1:07:27
  up killing all the fish. So but Q brother Soulstar gave us two dollars
• 1:07:32
  USD and wants to know would they kill you if your VP was Tate?
• 1:07:39
  Andrew Tate? Is he from the United States? I don't know if he
• 1:07:42
  could actually run if he's not, No, he's British now, he wouldn't
• 1:07:46
  be eligible affecting an American accent like I, well, you know, I
• 1:07:51
  haven't listened to him talk enough to be well, I don't know. There's
• 1:07:56
  like five thousand American accents, Like there are parts of America where if you
• 1:08:00
  cross town the accent changes. Um yeah, so I mean it's like that
• 1:08:05
  in other countries too. It's just America's very large. So yeah, um
• 1:08:14
  but yeah, I just no, they I can't go into politics because,
• 1:08:18
  like I said, they would kill me. I would not survive. I
• 1:08:21
  would not survive, like the first month of campaigning after I came out with
• 1:08:26
  a platform of actually completely dismantling whole departments of the federal government. Um.
• 1:08:34
  Like, so like when people ask me, you know, why why haven't
• 1:08:38
  you run for office because I don't want to die? Well, well,
• 1:08:44
  I mean see, if you get elected, then you have secret service for
• 1:08:47
  life. Yeah that's true, but then you have to get elected, and
• 1:08:54
  I don't know the otherwise, you're just seen as the guy that lost to
• 1:08:59
  whatever bigger loser there is. But um yeah, I don't know how many
• 1:09:05
  people would be comfortable with what I would be proposing anyway. I think a
• 1:09:09
  lot of people would not go for that idea yet. Yeah. No,
• 1:09:13
  And the idea of Andrew Tay being VP is I think, probably more unpopular
• 1:09:18
  than Kanye actually becoming the president. Yeah, I honestly like, I will
• 1:09:26
  support the man's right to free speech to have the ideas that he has there,
• 1:09:31
  his ideas, it's his brain. He's allowed to put whatever ideas in
• 1:09:34
  there he wants. Yeah, that's that's his right right to maintain his freedom
• 1:09:41
  in that cause. Not not obviously, if he's actually broken laws in a
• 1:09:45
  country where he you know, he's he's less likely to do process than that
• 1:09:50
  was pretty fucking stupid. Um. But I mean that's a different story in
• 1:09:56
  terms of um he can be. I've even said you, I have the
• 1:10:00
  right to be a misogynist. It's a shocking thing to say in some countries
• 1:10:04
  because they've just tried to make misogyny illegal. I think that failed, thank
• 1:10:10
  goodness, but they just tried to make misogyny illegal. You have the right
• 1:10:15
  to be a misogynist. Will I necessarily agree with you? Maybe not one
• 1:10:19
  hundred but but you still have that right, and I would defend that right
• 1:10:28
  regardless. You have that right. You have a right to your own thoughts,
• 1:10:32
  You have the right to your own opinion. You even have the right
• 1:10:33
  to express them. Yep. That's a natural right. Over the course of
• 1:10:40
  the last couple of years, some people have talked about maybe Tucker Carson could
• 1:10:45
  be a nominee for the president, And until very recently I've been like,
• 1:10:51
  nah, nah no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:10:55
  no no, because he's associated with the fucking mainstream media. But at this
• 1:11:00
  point I'm like, okay, okay, things have changed. Yea. Although
• 1:11:09
  there are things I like about Tucker Carlson, but he is an authoritarian conservative
• 1:11:14
  like he is to be libertarian, and he grew out of it. That
• 1:11:17
  bothers me. Yeah, And while he was under the thumb of Fox News,
• 1:11:23
  yeah, I didn't trust him at all. But like I say,
• 1:11:27
  things have changed. We have to listen to what he says about drugs because
• 1:11:30
  I don't think he's saying what he's told to say there. I think that's
• 1:11:34
  his real opinions. Yeah. And then also there was an interview that I
• 1:11:40
  heard him do and he was saying, how, you know, in his
• 1:11:43
  how in his personal life, he's not really a political person, and I'm
• 1:11:46
  like, what that doesn't really kind of hold water. How are you?
• 1:11:50
  How do you have this intensely political job. I mean, of course it's
• 1:11:58
  adjacent to politics. You're a newscaster, right, a broadcast or whatever.
• 1:12:01
  But how do you not have an opinion one way or the other? And
• 1:12:06
  I don't. I'm not saying that that's what the I'm not saying that that's
• 1:12:11
  what he was saying about himself, that he doesn't have an opinion one way
• 1:12:15
  or the other. But he he was really trying to say how this is
• 1:12:18
  not really a big part of his life. And you know, when we
• 1:12:23
  got home, we don't talk about politics. And that's probably true because I
• 1:12:26
  think he has something like five or six kids. You know, my husband
• 1:12:30
  and I don't talk politics all that much. I don't really talk politics a
• 1:12:33
  lot with my daughters either, my son I do. I never talk politics
• 1:12:39
  with my family. One doesn't tend to talk politics with one's family because one
• 1:12:44
  one's family tends to be, you know, the different one's family, even
• 1:12:54
  if you're in the in the small square in which all of us are,
• 1:13:03
  your once family tends to be normals. And once once family tends to get
• 1:13:10
  all their information from the television. And and they're of the opinion that you
• 1:13:17
  have to get your information from the television because what's the alternative the internet?
• 1:13:23
  And you can't trust anything you get from the internet. See, that's that's
• 1:13:27
  one of the things that has benefited me. I was, I was not
• 1:13:30
  raised by normies. I was raised by nerds, um but and I was
• 1:13:36
  the nerds I was. I was raised by to this day get all their
• 1:13:41
  information from the Internet. And that's that's why, that's why my whole family
• 1:13:49
  is gonna die from the fucking coushots. Anyway. Yeah, my my my
• 1:13:57
  parents. When I was growing up. You know how little kids always ask
• 1:14:02
  questions like that. That was not an opportunity to answer kids questions when I
• 1:14:10
  was a kid. And it wasn't a moment where they're like, you're asking
• 1:14:13
  too many questions, shut up, you know. No, it was let's
• 1:14:16
  find out and then the next step was to start looking at different sources of
• 1:14:23
  information or if the question was something of what would happen if we do this,
• 1:14:29
  and there was a way to do that safely, that's what we did.
• 1:14:34
  And like that's the way my family was. My parents were teachers.
• 1:14:39
  They weren't teachers like you have today. They were teachers. They were educators,
• 1:14:44
  which means they assisted children in educating themselves and provided children in with mentoring
• 1:14:53
  in how to better access the tools they needed to educate themselves and how to
• 1:15:00
  make use of those tools. Like, that's not what teachers today do.
• 1:15:03
  They spoon feed you things they want you to believe. But yeah, And
• 1:15:08
  in regard to Tucker Carlson, like I fully believe that they don't talk politics
• 1:15:15
  at his house. I'll bet his wife doesn't even watch him on TV.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah, um, Like she's probably pretty busy if they have a lot of
• 1:15:25
  kids. But and he seems to be more of an outdoorsman where he likes
• 1:15:29
  to go be, you know, on Walden pawn or something. He doesn't
• 1:15:34
  seem like the kind of guy that spends a lot of time just immersed in
• 1:15:39
  this stuff. He does his research on the things he's going to talk about,
• 1:15:43
  but because of that, he's gonna filter everything through his ideology. And
• 1:15:49
  that's why his take on drugs is so bad. You can't cure drug use
• 1:15:57
  by outlining it because many people have they don't believe necessarily that it's dangerous or
• 1:16:02
  damaging or there's a valid reason for outlawing it. And there are a lot
• 1:16:08
  of people, especially in the United States, that if you outlaw something and
• 1:16:12
  they don't consider there to be a valid reason for it to be outlawed.
• 1:16:16
  They're going to do everything they can to get around your laws exactly outlawing it.
• 1:16:24
  It only makes it more dangerous and more expensive for people. I mean,
• 1:16:28
  you see it. You saw that with prohibition, you see that with
• 1:16:31
  gun laws, you see that with piracy, any kind of blue laws,
• 1:16:36
  basically prostitution. Right, it's pointless to outlaw that stuff. And if you
• 1:16:44
  really wanted, for instance, to make the next generation not use certain drugs,
• 1:16:53
  the best way to do that is without letting it look like old people
• 1:16:59
  came up with the eye idea and promoted the idea. Just make using that
• 1:17:04
  drug look ridiculous and cringe worthy. Do it in a way that the kids
• 1:17:11
  are going to see it that way, and you know you need young people
• 1:17:15
  for that. That's the only way to get rid of the dangerous drugs out
• 1:17:18
  there. And like his stance on it is that you have to have laws
• 1:17:26
  and punishment and stuff like that, and there shouldn't be medical marijuana and all
• 1:17:29
  that. And I'm just that bothers me about him. I'm not. I
• 1:17:32
  don't know that I would vote for him for president, but I do like
• 1:17:35
  listening to him talk about stuff. I don't have to agree with everything he
• 1:17:40
  says to like the fact that he tries to apply logic and reason and prefers
• 1:17:46
  to disseminate information that he believes to be true and not light of people.
• 1:17:55
  You Like, if he's wrong about something, he's going to be wrong about
• 1:17:57
  it. But that's not the same as lying. Lying is deliberate, right.
• 1:18:01
  But but in any case, yeah, I you know, that's another
• 1:18:05
  one where like people who would support Carlson wouldn't necessarily support me because I don't
• 1:18:12
  think we need a food and drug administration either. Yeah, I don't think
• 1:18:17
  a federal government should be doing that. There's a whole laundry list of Alphavett
• 1:18:23
  agencies that we could just toss in the bin right now and be much happier.
• 1:18:29
  We could save so much money. One of the biggest mistakes we ever
• 1:18:33
  made in this country was giving government authority over what we consume, what we
• 1:18:43
  ingest. Yep, bullshit. I mean, surely this was the whole fucking
• 1:18:47
  point of the constitution, right right, Like it's that's it's absolutely bullshit.
• 1:18:54
  Should not be a thing, should not exist, right, But in any
• 1:19:00
  case, like where that that that takes this pretty far off topic. Um,
• 1:19:03
  although I like to to connect it. I mean, if you look
• 1:19:08
  at most of the arrests that take place in regard to things like um,
• 1:19:15
  drugs and and while we're at you know, on the topic of things that
• 1:19:18
  are illegal, raw milk, yeah, right, Like men are the ones
• 1:19:26
  that get get targeted, not women. Yeah, and raw milk, like
• 1:19:31
  you should be able to make that decision for yourself. No, nobody,
• 1:19:36
  nobody had a big glass of raw milk and then went out and robbed a
• 1:19:41
  liquor store because we're feeling the effects man like Jones and for some goat cheese,
• 1:19:48
  I gotta go, I gotta go get some extra cash, about to
• 1:19:51
  hold up a convenience store for the no, come on right right Okay?
• 1:20:01
  But yeah, so like men, men get targeted with stuff like that.
• 1:20:04
  Um, men, men are the ones that really that who's whose shoulders that
• 1:20:08
  falls on? And in my opinion, I think, um, one of
• 1:20:13
  the biggest issues facing the men's rights movement today is that we have allowed because
• 1:20:19
  women need safety nets, we have federalized things that shouldn't even be governed.
• 1:20:28
  Yeah, like that's that's basically my my my little soap box there. But
• 1:20:32
  yeah, so we've gone so far in promoting women's interests. Um just to
• 1:20:39
  to correct what the Women Women's Organization there how they worded their survey, we've
• 1:20:46
  gone so far in promoting women's interests that we are discriminating against men on a
• 1:20:54
  level that the public can't condone anymore, because we've always discriminated against men.
• 1:20:59
  Right when you look at family law, even when men had custody, they
• 1:21:05
  still had to support if if wife left her husband and didn't divorce him,
• 1:21:12
  if he divorced her, he would have to support her. And if she
• 1:21:17
  didn't divorce him, he couldn't remarry and he had to continue to support her
• 1:21:24
  financially even if she lived chose to live somewhere else. That's discrimination. Nobody
• 1:21:30
  did that to women, So like that's but yeah, now now people are
• 1:21:36
  able to see that the discrimination is discrimination. They're they're recognizing it for what
• 1:21:42
  it is now. By comparison, forty three percent or five percent less disagreed
• 1:21:49
  somewhat or strongly with that statement. So just two percent two percent, shy
• 1:21:55
  of half of the population recognizes this discrimination. Just three percent more than two
• 1:22:06
  fifths, doesn't recognize it very well. Disagreeing somewhat still allows for recognition of
• 1:22:17
  discrimination. So it'd be interesting to see how many disagreed strongly versus disagreeing Somewhat.
• 1:22:27
  I was gonna say, I was looking at this chart as as you
• 1:22:30
  know, we were talking about this, and for as many countries as there
• 1:22:34
  are that there are people that actually agree that you see the percentage of those
• 1:22:43
  that disagree, And I was wondering the same thing, how many of those
• 1:22:46
  disagree strongly? Like, because somewhere about halfway a little bit a little bit
• 1:22:55
  about halfway towards the through the chart, it becomes equalized. There's more,
• 1:23:01
  it's like the same number that agree that also disagree. So you know,
• 1:23:08
  there's there's a lot of room for for for exactly that the people that really
• 1:23:18
  really don't agree. And it doesn't really break it down enough for me.
• 1:23:24
  I mean, the number sound they look good, right, like, oh
• 1:23:27
  my god, look at all these people that agree in all of these countries.
• 1:23:30
  But the number of the percentage of people who disagree is also a little
• 1:23:35
  bit worrying, um, because it seems like there's just a well, of
• 1:23:43
  course, we know there's a disconnect with people when it comes to these things,
• 1:23:48
  right when when it comes to talking about the the the issues that we
• 1:23:55
  are here to discuss the issues that affect men and boys specifically. Right,
• 1:24:02
  Yeah, there are people who just have blinders on and they will never ever
• 1:24:09
  ever see it in any other way. But the women, But the women,
• 1:24:14
  But what about the women? But the women are the most that it's
• 1:24:19
  disheartening, you know, it really just I don't know what's what it's gonna
• 1:24:25
  say. This is encouraging, I like this, but um, I think
• 1:24:32
  this kind of shows that there's a lot more work left to do. Oh,
• 1:24:36
  there is. There is. In fact, if you look at this
• 1:24:40
  chartum, you'll notice and I've I've opened it up in another screen because it's
• 1:24:45
  it didn't want to. I couldn't get it to just open up in any
• 1:24:49
  tab, so I opened up the power point that's linked. The global average
• 1:24:55
  is forty forty eight percent agreeing somewhat or strongly. Um, and and the
• 1:25:01
  global averages forty three percent disagreeing or strongly. But if you look at which
• 1:25:06
  countries and what percentages they were at forty eight or above, you've got quite
• 1:25:15
  a bit of uh, like Middle Eastern South American nations, Eastern nations,
• 1:25:28
  you know, not necessarily Western nations. And then as you get more towards
• 1:25:32
  the bottom where you see um, actually forty six percent and below you're seeing
• 1:25:40
  more Western or westernized nations listed. And now that might change partly due to
• 1:25:48
  migration. Um, but let me make sure I've got this is the one.
• 1:25:59
  Almost half agree that we are discriminating against men. So yeah, that's
• 1:26:01
  this, that's the the question there. And the United States is in the
• 1:26:08
  in the lower part right somewhere in here if I remember it, because I
• 1:26:12
  looked earlier, and forty seven percent, so forty percent of people in the
• 1:26:16
  US, which is higher than I would have expected, recognize discrimination against men,
• 1:26:23
  whereas if you are in Thailand, seventy eight percent recognize discrimination against men.
• 1:26:30
  If you are in India, that's wild. Well in India, the
• 1:26:35
  um, the law, the domestic violence law in India is yeah, it
• 1:26:41
  really messed up. It's oh my god. You guys have heard the seven
• 1:26:46
  years in hell story at nauseum, right. You've heard about all the false
• 1:26:49
  allegations he faced. You've heard about, you know, um, child child
• 1:26:55
  Protective Services coming to their door to investigate allegations that his wife, who was
• 1:27:00
  an adult, was abused made by his ex wife. That's one one person
• 1:27:08
  going through the overwhelming majority. He's the only person who was ever taken in
• 1:27:13
  for questioning and then thrown in jail like he was arrested for twelve hours,
• 1:27:16
  denied food and water, and had his medicines lost by the department. Nobody
• 1:27:23
  arrested his kid, Nobody arrested his wife, Nobody arrested his witnesses. Right,
• 1:27:28
  but if you're in India and your wife makes a dowry allegation, dowry
• 1:27:35
  abuse allegation, she can accuse your entire family. There have been instances where
• 1:27:40
  people the cops have arrested extended family living in a household. So they have
• 1:27:48
  the husband, the husband's siblings, the husband's parents, the husband's nieces and
• 1:27:56
  nephews, and possibly the husband's aunt or uncle if they're old and disabled and
• 1:28:02
  he's taking care of them in his household, depending on you know what,
• 1:28:05
  what level of income he has. And so there have been situations where infants
• 1:28:13
  have been put in jail with their families in India on a dowry abuse allegation
• 1:28:19
  because the infant was accused of dowry abuse. An infant not old enough to
• 1:28:28
  even speak. Infants, yes, yeah, they don't care they're coming after
• 1:28:34
  the whole family. So it doesn't surprise me at all that India has a
• 1:28:42
  high percentage of recognition that men are being discriminated against. My guess is that
• 1:28:45
  there are probably way more people in India who have experienced this phenomenon, either
• 1:28:55
  through being arrested or seeing it happened to a friend, family member, a
• 1:29:01
  co worker, being inconvenienced because someone can't come to work because they've been arrested
• 1:29:08
  on a false charge. And that's just that one issue. Then there is
• 1:29:13
  the tendency of sexual violence allegations in India. Women can accuse men of rape
• 1:29:20
  in India if they have breached a promise to marry. So you get engaged,
• 1:29:28
  engagement doesn't work out, but you had sex while you were engaged,
• 1:29:32
  Right, all of a sudden, you get accused of rape. And if
• 1:29:38
  the allegation doesn't pan out for her, she doesn't follow up on it.
• 1:29:42
  Whatever, No no recourse, there's no consequence for her for making that allegation.
• 1:29:49
  Jes right, So I bet most of India is aware of this.
• 1:29:58
  That's that's my My suspicion is that there there there will be legislative changes in
• 1:30:05
  India because it's the kind of system that had feminists in India have created.
• 1:30:12
  Isn't just unsustainable, it's not just unconscionable, it's intolerable. Yeah, it's
• 1:30:18
  a situation where it's it will change or the population will decline exactly, and
• 1:30:28
  their culture will change. They won't have marriage. Um, you know that
• 1:30:32
  that'll be it Saudi Arabia. Same thing. Um, If a man abuses
• 1:30:40
  his wife, she has recourse. If she beats him, he doesn't have
• 1:30:45
  recourse. Right. If if a guy is accused of a sex crime and
• 1:30:53
  that that allegation is proved, he will hang. He doesn't go to jail,
• 1:31:02
  He hangs if he's falsely accused and she gets her four witnesses, even
• 1:31:10
  if they're lying, it's going to be too late to appeal because he's dead
• 1:31:17
  right, And I mean that's that's not the only thing, you know.
• 1:31:20
  Guardianship feminists talk about the discriminatory aspects of guardianship as if they only affect women.
• 1:31:29
  A woman not being able to drive herself, which that's changed. Women
• 1:31:32
  can drive now, but a woman not being able to drive herself around means
• 1:31:35
  if she needs something, if she wants to go somewhere, her husband has
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  to take her right. So he's he's pretty much stuck in that role of
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  chauffeur, you know, he's he's sort of stuck in that she's dependent on
• 1:31:51
  him. Like these are for everything that we point to as a means of
• 1:31:59
  discrimination against women. Men have something and I looked into because there was a
• 1:32:05
  story that got passed around a while back about a woman who got stone to
• 1:32:11
  death for being raped, and you know, I looked into the story.
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  And of course, Saudi Arabia has very strict laws in regard to sexual relations,
• 1:32:20
  and they're very very different from Western laws. Their whole culture is very
• 1:32:27
  very different from Western culture. And I'm not going to make comments on whether
• 1:32:31
  those laws are right or wrong. The people who live under them are aware
• 1:32:35
  of them. Those are the laws they live under, and you have control
• 1:32:43
  over whether or not you engage in a behavior that violates that law. It's
• 1:32:46
  the same thing of like if you buy cocaine here in the United States.
• 1:32:53
  I have absolute sympathy for your right to make that decision yourself. I think
• 1:32:58
  it's wrong that we have a law that says you shouldn't be able to do
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  that. I think it's stupid. I wouldn't recommend it. You know,
• 1:33:05
  I've given my kids all the information about you know why they shouldn't do that,
• 1:33:10
  But I don't think the law should address it. But it does.
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  And I'm not going to feel sorry for you going to jail because you know
• 1:33:17
  that. Yeah, right, you get caught, you go to jail.
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  Now. In Saudi Arabia, if you get caught engaging in fornication, which
• 1:33:28
  under their law that's sex before marriage, or adultery, which is sex outside
• 1:33:32
  of an existing marriage. That's cheating. Right, there's a punishment. Fornication
• 1:33:39
  gets lashes or caning or something, and adultery is punishable by death. So
• 1:33:46
  when I looked into this case, this woman had been accused of an affair
• 1:33:54
  with a man and her claim was the so called affair was not consensual,
• 1:34:00
  she was raped. Well, we don't know if that was true or not,
• 1:34:04
  but the court did not find it to be true. And because the
• 1:34:09
  court did not find it to be true, but she admitted to the relationship,
• 1:34:14
  then she was found guilty of adultery. So she wasn't stone to death
• 1:34:17
  for being rape or for fraud, or for being female or any of that.
• 1:34:25
  He and she were both executed for adultery, and the fact of the
• 1:34:32
  matter is it's a harsh law. I'm not gonna say that I agree with
• 1:34:36
  that. I'm not going to say that it's my place to determine the laws
• 1:34:43
  of that country because it's not my country. Right, I'm not going to
• 1:34:46
  move there. That's not why. But I'm not going to move there,
• 1:34:53
  all right. But but it's not realistic to say that she was discriminate and
• 1:35:00
  it against because she was a woman, yeah, you know, And it's
• 1:35:02
  very possible that she made that allegation because regardless of the situation, the guy's
• 1:35:10
  dead in that situation, if the if it's proved that there was contact like
• 1:35:15
  that sexual contact, he's either going to be guilty of rape or adultery,
• 1:35:19
  so he either gets hanged or stoned. One or the other's going to happen
• 1:35:24
  to him no matter what. She can save her ass by claiming to be
• 1:35:29
  raped. And if if it was a fornication situation instead of adultery, then
• 1:35:40
  you have, you know, even more incentive to claim right because you can
• 1:35:44
  just get married after that. And the guy in particular, like he's not
• 1:35:49
  out. If he gets married, he can have more than one wife,
• 1:35:53
  right, And if she marries him, she's got the man to support her.
• 1:35:59
  So there's actually incentive in that country to make false allegations. Now I'm
• 1:36:05
  not going to necessarily say that that proves any kind of statistic, Like I
• 1:36:13
  can't say, well, there's this many false allegations in Saudi Arabia because I
• 1:36:16
  don't have that information, but logically I would expect there to be some because
• 1:36:23
  of that situation. Yeah, there's incentive. Yeah, if you're if you're
• 1:36:28
  gonna and I'm gonna piss off a lot of people, possibly including the people
• 1:36:34
  in this stream, but one of them. One of the most ubiquitous problems
• 1:36:43
  in global politics is the problem of overpopulation. And and I'm not saying whether
• 1:36:51
  or not it is a problem or it isn't. I mean, to some
• 1:36:55
  degree, maybe is some degree, maybe isn't, depending on what country you'll
• 1:37:00
  live in, depending on where all of this overflow is coming from. But
• 1:37:06
  you're not going to fix the problem by letting women do whatever they want and
• 1:37:13
  making men, making men foot the bill for whatever's going on. They've tried
• 1:37:20
  this in all kind of countries all over the world, including in my country,
• 1:37:26
  including in your country, and so on and so forth, and it's
• 1:37:31
  just such cosmic irony that the first, the first countries to I guess,
• 1:37:42
  discover the problem where the first countries to go, Okay, well, let's
• 1:37:46
  let's let women be in unilaterally in control of how many children they have.
• 1:37:58
  And listen, let's not let men be involved in any of these things.
• 1:38:02
  Let's just let's just let women be in charge of how many children they have,
• 1:38:09
  and then we won't have this overpopulation problem, which it's in some place
• 1:38:17
  in some ways sounds intuitive once you look into it, it's is kind of
• 1:38:26
  counteratuative because so many people have this um, so many people ascribe to this
• 1:38:34
  notion of patriarchy, that then that the only reason people have so many children
• 1:38:42
  is because of patriarchy, because men want so many children and therefore they force
• 1:38:46
  women to have children. But the let's call it the Norwegian gender paradox.
• 1:38:55
  Right, when you when you let men and women are like have as many
• 1:39:01
  children and um and and as ascribe themselves to the um to whatever they want
• 1:39:12
  to do, it turns out women want to have children. Women want to
• 1:39:16
  have as many children as possible, and and then want to work. They
• 1:39:26
  want to do, you know, um, do whatever they can in it
• 1:39:32
  in a non child raising responsibility to the to the degree that they can.
• 1:39:42
  And this doesn't make sense given the Norwegian gender paradox that people in Iran and
• 1:39:51
  all these other countries when when when they are given the option of doing whatever
• 1:40:00
  job they want, women tend to do any job they want. And it's
• 1:40:06
  it's it's only. It's only because in such Middle Eastern and Dara say Eastern
• 1:40:15
  countries, the only the only reason they have so many children is because they're
• 1:40:20
  given the option of doing of of not to because they're not given the option
• 1:40:27
  of doing whatever they want. Yeah, and and Okay, I'm going to
• 1:40:32
  try and bring this around to what I'm saying. The problem of overpopulation exists
• 1:40:41
  because um no, I lost it. I think I can finish it.
• 1:40:48
  And my example is going to be single moms. In the United States,
• 1:40:53
  right, we allow women to do whatever they want in terms of childbirth and
• 1:41:00
  child rearing. They have we have in the United States. We have a
• 1:41:04
  plethora of just different types of birth control available to us. We have total
• 1:41:10
  control over whether or not we get pregnant. And we hear all the time,
• 1:41:15
  well, accidents accidents, all right, An accident happens because you were
• 1:41:18
  careless, right right, And that's there are no accidents that that happened without
• 1:41:25
  somebody being careless. It's not lightning doesn't strike you and you get pregnant.
• 1:41:30
  The knock up ferry does not exist. You didn't slip on the street and
• 1:41:33
  fall on a puddle of pregnancy. You did like I. You know,
• 1:41:39
  I got. I got. I intended to get pregnant, just not when
• 1:41:42
  it happened. My intention was to get some things done first that would have
• 1:41:45
  made things easier for our family and more advantageous to our children. But I
• 1:41:53
  screwed up timing on birth control pills because I didn't follow instructions that I didn't
• 1:41:57
  read, and so I gave birth to my son a few years earlier than
• 1:42:02
  I intended to, and it fucked everything up for the whole family, and
• 1:42:08
  it fucked up our finances. It put my husband in a really rough situation,
• 1:42:14
  and it put me in a rough situation because I had to confront the
• 1:42:18
  fact that I had done that to my family. Most people don't have to
• 1:42:23
  confront Most women don't have to confront that fact, right they like they get
• 1:42:28
  every safety net in the world. I was really lucky. I at least
• 1:42:30
  I feel like I was really lucky in that my parents didn't let me off
• 1:42:33
  the hook for that. Now, what are you going to do? You
• 1:42:36
  have created this situation for your child and your family. What's your next steps?
• 1:42:44
  And I got all kinds of advice, and I took some of it
• 1:42:48
  and I rejected some of it, and I scrambled and worked really hard to
• 1:42:53
  mitigate the fallout that my kids and my husband experienced from my failure to do
• 1:43:00
  what I should have done right, because that's what you're supposed to do.
• 1:43:04
  But what the overwhelming majority of women do is ask for somebody else to deal
• 1:43:11
  with the problem. I need a government stipend. I need child support from
• 1:43:16
  that man. I need this, I need that. And Richard Bierre,
• 1:43:21
  you're you're right. If I didn't conceive, then I wouldn't have the son
• 1:43:26
  that I have today. Because and this story doesn't excuse my fuck up at
• 1:43:31
  all, But while I was pregnant, I went for the torture test that
• 1:43:40
  they where they go splunking in your nethers for the first time in about seven
• 1:43:45
  years, and they found cancers cells on my cervix and they took them all
• 1:43:50
  off with a biopsy. This was so tiny like smaller than a sweet pea,
• 1:43:58
  but it was there, and they evaluated them, they analyzed them,
• 1:44:03
  and there's there's two basic categories of cervical cancer. One moves kind of slow,
• 1:44:11
  you have time to find it and treat it, and it's not incredibly
• 1:44:16
  dangerous, but it's still cancer and it's still bad. The other one starts
• 1:44:21
  out like that, a little tiny size of a sweet pea, and then
• 1:44:26
  just blows up really fast and kills you before like you get to the stage
• 1:44:30
  where there's nothing you can do about it, before you have any symptoms.
• 1:44:34
  And that's the one I had. And so if I want to be really
• 1:44:42
  honest about it, my son saved my life. It's one of the million
• 1:44:45
  times I almost died. Didn't almost die from that, really, but you're
• 1:44:50
  right, I wouldn't have. And no, I don't have HPV. I've
• 1:44:55
  been I went back and got tested over and over again because I was sure,
• 1:45:00
  you know, like I've been, I've been through some things that could
• 1:45:01
  have led to that, right. And then the ex wife was one of
• 1:45:08
  those women that well we'll just say she was a very popular girl. Um.
• 1:45:15
  But in any case, yeah, I every every single time, you
• 1:45:20
  know, I've come back with no, No, you don't have any reason
• 1:45:25
  to suspect this. There's there's it's testing as negative. You don't have any
• 1:45:29
  signs of it, no symptoms of it. And I have never since then
• 1:45:33
  had any sign of cancer either. It was just that one moment, that
• 1:45:36
  one um one tumor, like you know that, that's it. So yeah,
• 1:45:45
  I wouldn't have had a son because I wouldn't have survived. Yeah,
• 1:45:49
  but but there you go. Um, and he's the only one because I
• 1:45:57
  wasn't built too for making babies. Really, there's the opposite of the um
• 1:46:02
  female character in one of the early Coney and the Barbarian novels that said her
• 1:46:06
  dad used to say she was built to have bear many children and nurse all
• 1:46:11
  of them. Um, I have no curves, none, so um,
• 1:46:15
  except in their own direction sometimes well, but yeah, you had one,
• 1:46:20
  I have, I've got the curves. I got no goddamn kids there.
• 1:46:25
  I think I like it that way, but yeah, and I like if
• 1:46:30
  I hadn't screwed that up, I probably would have had more. But we
• 1:46:33
  never got into a financial position where that was a good idea. The thing
• 1:46:38
  about women in the United States and their reason, um that we we don't
• 1:46:44
  have an overpopulation in the in the United States. The population problem we have
• 1:46:48
  in the United States is an unfunded population, and it's unfunded by itself.
• 1:46:56
  It's funded by the government instead, and that's bad. Being funded by the
• 1:47:00
  government means you are always going to be poor. Nobody as a citizen that
• 1:47:05
  isn't in a position of elite authority that where they can exploit their their power
• 1:47:14
  and their knowledge and do things that are unfair to everybody else. Nobody gets
• 1:47:18
  rich being just supported by the government. Most of your life you live in
• 1:47:25
  poverty, and women settle for that that safety net that strangles them in their
• 1:47:31
  children and their children's children clear onto the generation that finally figures out. You
• 1:47:38
  know, living dependent like this really sucks, and we're going to try to
• 1:47:42
  get something better for ourselves. And the only way for us to do it
• 1:47:45
  is work for it. That's that's why there's a population problem. And every
• 1:47:51
  country you have one of two things going on. Either the government wants lots
• 1:48:00
  of babies and then uses them for for fodder, cannon fodder, work fodder,
• 1:48:05
  and things like that. Or women have no accountability. They have all
• 1:48:11
  the sexual rights they want, but no accountability for their sexual choices. It's
• 1:48:15
  not an awe situation. Well, like Saudi Arabia, women can't just go
• 1:48:21
  fuck everything that moves, right in the United States, that women can go
• 1:48:25
  fuck everything that moves. If she has babies with with you know, eight
• 1:48:30
  different baby daddies, the government will go after those baby daddies and the government
• 1:48:33
  will give her money and feminists will defend her right to live free of criticism
• 1:48:40
  from for engaging in that behavior. In Saudi Arabia, she'll get canned or
• 1:48:45
  stoned or whatever. Um, they'll take care of her, and then they'll
• 1:48:49
  take her kids and they'll strap bombs to their chest and send them out to
• 1:48:54
  die someplace. Um bombing someplace right, or they'll they'll put them in a
• 1:48:59
  military and have them do something else. They they'll be um, you know,
• 1:49:03
  grunt workers somewhere, or they won't have any advantages. But it's it's
• 1:49:11
  so it's not the same, but the problem, the result is the same.
• 1:49:15
  They don't have the same Their lack of accountability is different, right,
• 1:49:23
  Um, and that that creates a different problem. You know, I'm not
• 1:49:30
  going to say the United States isn't using our our boys for cannon fodder because
• 1:49:34
  hell, they're talking about reenacting the draft right now to send them to Ukraine.
• 1:49:40
  But it's it's still not that it's more moral when it happens here,
• 1:49:49
  but people are given a different moral story, and people are given them different
• 1:49:55
  moral story about sex here, right. We I had from the view that
• 1:50:01
  American Christians are just as bad as the Taliban. Yeah, well, as
• 1:50:09
  bad as right, as bad as we were told the Taliban is I and
• 1:50:13
  as bad as the murderer the obviously that part of it, yeah, definitely,
• 1:50:20
  But I think there are things that we've been told about the Taliban that
• 1:50:24
  aren't entirely true either. And by the way, by the way, and
• 1:50:29
  I'm not saying don't object to the Taliban, because obviously there there's still a
• 1:50:33
  gang, right and there's still every government is a gang. These guys are
• 1:50:40
  just a more violent gang than some directly violent to their own people gang than
• 1:50:43
  some of the other governments. That's the biggest difference between the Taliban and say,
• 1:50:47
  the United States government, is that the Taliban has more visible violence toward
• 1:50:54
  their own people. In the United States, if the government wants to kill
• 1:50:57
  you, they take you away and put you in a cell and leave you
• 1:50:59
  there. For about a decade before they kill you. And if the Taliban
• 1:51:03
  wants to kill you, they just drag you out in the street and shoot
• 1:51:06
  you in the head right then and there. Right, that's the only real
• 1:51:10
  difference, right, Um, they might have different reasons. In the United
• 1:51:14
  States, you have certain crimes you have to commit or be convicted of committing
• 1:51:18
  that are violence against other people. Um, the Taliban will shoot you for
• 1:51:23
  singing. But at the same time, you know, we we we're we're
• 1:51:30
  still looking at um an organization that exists because of a proxy war between the
• 1:51:36
  United States and Russia in a foreign country. That sounds kind of familiar right
• 1:51:43
  now. Yeah, the the FBI will, um, but you and Granton
• 1:51:46
  know for singing the wrong thing? True, Um a place. I guess
• 1:51:57
  the difference is, Um, the US government won't won't put you in Grantanamo
• 1:52:04
  for singing about for singing Christian hymns in the same way the Taliban will torture
• 1:52:14
  you for singing something that isn't Yeah, I love Allah and stuff. The
• 1:52:23
  f the FBI will tature you for singing how do I finish this sentence?
• 1:52:31
  The FBI will torture you for singing the Star spangled banner exactly. Will they
• 1:52:41
  will torture you for singing anything that is against the rainbow flag. M hm.
• 1:52:48
  They'll torture you for singing My country tis of thee. They'll torture you
• 1:52:53
  for singing Yankee doodle. My currency tis of thee is is a reevaluation.
• 1:52:59
  Yeah, of of of um uh the the British national anthem. By the
• 1:53:05
  way, Yeah, I country tis of the Yeah we Our next line is
• 1:53:13
  sweet Land of Liberty. Yes, oh yeah, Like I know the whole
• 1:53:18
  song I was singing landoled pop Girls Ride from every Mountains I Leftedom, and
• 1:53:30
  I don't know the second verse. That's what I'll just say. It sounds
• 1:53:32
  way better when you sing than when I sing, um, especially right now,
• 1:53:38
  Like right now, I've got niagara falls going down the back of my
• 1:53:40
  throat. Oh it's bad. Um. I have four three bottles of water
• 1:53:46
  and a bottle of body armor in front of me because of that. But
• 1:53:53
  yeah, so, I mean, but when you look at this, so
• 1:53:56
  I look at these countries like Thailand, I don't know what's going on Thailand.
• 1:53:59
  I need to research that and learn more about that, because clearly there
• 1:54:01
  are things going on there that would um you know, put put the United
• 1:54:10
  States system, make the United States system look reasonable. Otherwise people wouldn't people
• 1:54:15
  only recognize discrimination against men when it's an extreme situation. They'll send you to
• 1:54:20
  jail for saying anything bad about that. The tie royal family, well they
• 1:54:27
  still have a royal family, by the way. That that tells you something
• 1:54:30
  right there. But I mean there has to be they must. There must
• 1:54:33
  be a very guynocentricum federal court system. They're very family court system. Sorry,
• 1:54:41
  not federal, but yeah, there must be a very gynocentric family court
• 1:54:45
  system there, because that's that's the most likely reason. They probably also have
• 1:54:51
  discriminatory DV law. My my guests would be, um, they don't recognize
• 1:54:58
  abuse when women does it, and they exaggerate it when the man does it.
• 1:55:02
  Because the number seventy eight percent of people agreed at least somewhat or strongly
• 1:55:13
  that we are now discriminating against men, all right, that's that's pretty high.
• 1:55:18
  Only sixteen percent disagreed. And in Saudi Arabia they had seventy four percent
• 1:55:26
  versus seventeen percent, so those were that's some pretty extreme numbers there. Um.
• 1:55:32
  And and you see this United Arab Emirates, very high agreement that men
• 1:55:41
  are discriminated against. UM. And you know, if you see the way
• 1:55:45
  war is done in Middle Eastern countries, men are just cannon fodder, all
• 1:55:49
  right, They're really just cannon fodder. Like not every um, Middle Eastern
• 1:55:57
  country does the suicide bomber with a bomb strap to his chest. But they
• 1:56:01
  are engaged in direct combat with each other. There's they're not. There's not
• 1:56:06
  somebody with a computer guiding a drone. That's it. There's there's men with
• 1:56:13
  guns pointed at each other. So I'm sure that they probably, um,
• 1:56:19
  they probably recognize pretty well that that's discrimination. Men are the ones that are
• 1:56:24
  obligated to do that. UM. And you know you see this South Africa.
• 1:56:29
  That doesn't surprise me either. Um, it's not as dramatic um Argentina,
• 1:56:35
  I don't know enough about. But when you get into the South American
• 1:56:40
  countries, UM. And and Spain, like well, Spain is very guynes
• 1:56:46
  centric right now, UM, there's a huge like their laws or centric.
• 1:56:51
  It's they did, if I remember right, make misogyny illegal. Um.
• 1:56:57
  Their their domestic violence laws are dreamily gynocentric, their family laws extremely gynocentric.
• 1:57:03
  Their term for toxic masculinity. I think it's machismo and it's demonized, really
• 1:57:14
  demonized, and so yeah that that that doesn't surprise me, but they have
• 1:57:18
  that recognition. I think the biggest one that um surprises me is the Japan's
• 1:57:28
  not noticing it because, Yeah, they have so many false allegations of groping
• 1:57:35
  in public places that they had to create a trained system for women the Yeah,
• 1:57:45
  allegedly to protect them from from groping, But I think it's just as
• 1:57:47
  much am a protection of men from being falsely accused, because they do have
• 1:57:55
  an honor culture in which if a man is accused of something like that,
• 1:58:00
  it's it's the end of his career. His family may reject him, he
• 1:58:04
  may even commit suicide over it. Now, I wonder how a country like
• 1:58:10
  Japan would treat the transgender community. Well, it's how dare you say that
• 1:58:19
  that blowgain of guy, that dude ain't a lady. Let's let's take Germany
• 1:58:26
  and Japan, two countries that are not allowed to have nuclear weapons. Yeah,
• 1:58:34
  because of the World War that they recently lost, and so they have
• 1:58:41
  nothing left except this kind of centric idea that all they can do in the
• 1:58:47
  event of the war is throw men of the problem. And it's it's not
• 1:58:55
  as though they're alone in that paradigm. The rest of the Western world,
• 1:59:00
  the rest of the entire world, it still has the option of throwing men
• 1:59:06
  at the problem in the event of a war. But because Germany and Japan
• 1:59:15
  have no nuclear option, they're not allowed to have nuclear weapons because of what
• 1:59:18
  happened in the Second World War, the only option they have is throwing men
• 1:59:23
  at the problem. But again, like I said, the rest of the
• 1:59:28
  world, even though they have the nuclear option, they also still have the
• 1:59:33
  option of throwing men at the problem. Yeah, yeah, well, and
• 1:59:40
  so yeah, they're also there. Now. Things very well could have changed
• 1:59:45
  dramatically since I was there. But one of the things that I noticed when
• 1:59:48
  I was there was the men that were around our group. I was there
• 1:59:57
  as part of a sister cities exchange with my mom when she was president of
• 2:00:04
  my little small communities city council. And actually the city that was our sister
• 2:00:11
  city isn't a city anymore. They merged with another community. But we went
• 2:00:15
  to a place that at the time was called Hokadan Cho and they took us
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  to Tokyo and we spent time in Tokyo. We met a couple of groups
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  of people in Tokyo, and we spent a week in hokad on Cho and
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  met more groups of people in hokadan Cho and everywhere I went, the men
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  took care of the women. They were protective, they were accommodating. They
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  were like the epitome of what you would think of as gentlemanly. They were
• 2:00:45
  always looking after whether we were comfortable, whether we had everything, we needed
• 2:00:50
  everything, And it wasn't solicitous. It was just like an automatic, if
• 2:00:58
  you like, when I take care of a person with disabilities that has a
• 2:01:02
  mobility challenge and they have to wear a gate belt and we walk. I
• 2:01:08
  have so frequently worked with this type of mobility difficulty where someone a gate belt
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  is a belt that you wear around your abdominal area to allow another person to
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  assist you in maintaining your balance while you're walking. Your walk is your gate
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  so it's ga I T right, and you get used to having a level
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  of looseness in how you hold onto that belt but not taking your hand off
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  of it, or with some people having your hand close in case you need
• 2:01:45
  to get ahold of the belt, and with other people you have directional pressure
• 2:01:50
  just to counteract a lack of balance that a person consistently has. Right,
• 2:01:56
  those those become second nature. You don't necessarily appear to be thinking about doing
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  it. It's just a thing that is. It's as second nature as you
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  know, if you have really long hair, getting your hair out of the
• 2:02:13
  way before you sit down so you don't sit on it, yeah, which
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  I've done. Or if you are wearing a skirt a lot of times you
• 2:02:21
  might push your skirt under your legs or kilt, push your kilt under your
• 2:02:27
  legs when you're sitting down so that it doesn't bunch up underneath you. That
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  caregiving that I saw men doing in Japan when I was there was that kind
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  of second nature. There didn't appear to be any They weren't thinking consciously about
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  it, they weren't asking about it. They just did it. That's pretty
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  gynacentric. So I part of me I look at this and I'm like,
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  they're not realizing it. There's probably a great deal of discrimination that the men
• 2:03:01
  in Japan are overlooking because they are so accustomed to their role as like,
• 2:03:12
  the true alpha takes care of the people around them, right, the true
• 2:03:15
  alpha tries to make sure anybody under them, anybody they're responsible for, is
• 2:03:23
  safe and comfortable and happy. And that's basically like the men around us made
• 2:03:33
  themselves responsible for us without even asking or being asked if they had to do
• 2:03:40
  that, it just was automatic. So I think they may take on a
• 2:03:45
  lot of responsibility and allow a lot of responsibility to be imposed on them without
• 2:03:54
  considering do people have a right to do this to me? Are my rights
• 2:03:59
  being violated when they do this to me? Is this unfair to me?
• 2:04:02
  Because they're not considering themselves, They're considering everybody else first, right, So
• 2:04:13
  that's like, that's my my primary explanation for that. Now, I don't
• 2:04:16
  know, like I said, I mean, nineteen ninety four was a long
• 2:04:19
  time ago, so things may have changed. There may be an entirely different
• 2:04:26
  culture. But but I don't know the fact that they have those women only
• 2:04:30
  trains and the stated reason is allegations of men groping, when like a lot
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  of times, um, the situation is the train is so crowded that there's
• 2:04:41
  no space between people, you know, Like, that's not groping, that's
• 2:04:45
  that's no sure, And there's no such thing as women groping men right,
• 2:04:50
  um, you know, or or false allegations like I would I would bet
• 2:04:58
  that it's just that in in Japan are so tolerant of the discrimination they're experiencing
• 2:05:05
  that they're not noticing it. They're not aware of it. Yeah, it's
• 2:05:13
  kind of like white noise or whatever. Yeah, pretty much. And it's
• 2:05:16
  because they were so instantaneously colonized by the West and not not to um no,
• 2:05:28
  not to pause, so much shit on the West as we call it.
• 2:05:32
  But I'm the overriding ideology of the West is decentrism, yeah, which
• 2:05:44
  which suggests that um, Japan was forced into this guide eccentric ideology. Yeah,
• 2:05:54
  I think they may have had a great deal more balance between the sectors
• 2:05:57
  and their culture before they were or westernized. Yeah. And and men had
• 2:06:02
  responsibilities and women had responsibilities, men had rights and women had rights. But
• 2:06:09
  um, but maybe there's a lot to be said, well for the for
• 2:06:15
  the idea that a culture that puts all all of these restrictions on men and
• 2:06:23
  not on women, yea, and creates creates a culture in which men are
• 2:06:29
  sort of restricted to doing what they do best well, while women set around
• 2:06:39
  forcing men to do what they do best. And maybe that was what turned
• 2:06:44
  Japan into such an industrious culture, and maybe it's what turned Japan certain u
• 2:06:50
  Germany into such industrious culture. Yeah, it didn't work out for the Germany
• 2:06:57
  in the same way it worked out for Japan. But Japan in the late
• 2:07:00
  twentieth century, we doubt it's quite an industrious culture. You may have noticed
• 2:07:09
  how much you'all love video games. Yeah, and how much this was because
• 2:07:15
  of how industrious Japan turned out to be as a culture. Hey, yeah,
• 2:07:21
  I do want to point out because I've got someone in the chat that's
• 2:07:25
  that's added some information here meo of miao off for I don't even know how
• 2:07:30
  to pronunce this me woe me wa for sina, I've just butchered that.
• 2:07:39
  I'm very sorry, but pointed out in Japan is gruesome when it comes to
• 2:07:42
  male female relations. It's the country known for people working themselves into a grave
• 2:07:45
  to the point where they have a word for it, um yep. And
• 2:07:48
  they also have words for people that reject that and they're not very well right,
• 2:07:56
  and it's uh uh karoshi they call it um. And women absolutely refuse
• 2:08:05
  to marry and want anyone unless they make an obnoxious amount of money, even
• 2:08:09
  working women who intend to get married and then just quit their job. So
• 2:08:13
  that does kind of seem like me out of Foresina. There we go.
• 2:08:16
  Okay, it's probably from an anime that I haven't seen yet, UM,
• 2:08:22
  which I probably would like. I haven't run into very many that I don't
• 2:08:26
  UM. Or a video game. Maybe that again, I haven't run into
• 2:08:31
  very many that I don't like. UM. But in any case, Yeah,
• 2:08:35
  that's so that that kind of confirms like I was saying, men are
• 2:08:39
  so acclimated to this that where they they aren't necessarily answering that they're being discriminated
• 2:08:46
  against it. Of course women aren't going to admit it. It doesn't mean
• 2:08:50
  they're not. It means they're so used to it that they don't even see
• 2:08:54
  it. And and it goes on. And Japan is pretty big on transformism
• 2:09:01
  in a number of cultures. They just don't see it through the rainbow amiba
• 2:09:05
  glasses. Yeah, if you look at the way it's handled in the media
• 2:09:13
  that makes its way out of Japan, it doesn't look anything like Western It's
• 2:09:20
  not gay rights anymore, it's it's the Western woke culture has completely destroyed understanding
• 2:09:30
  people's nuance but then one more comment I'm going to go through. This is
• 2:09:35
  hogwash, Miss Hannah. You probably haven't seen the male female characters for starters.
• 2:09:39
  They aren't male female, they are have female carriages and mixed carriages.
• 2:09:43
  I kind of expected that, and that's always the way it is, too,
• 2:09:48
  isn't it right? Women claim to be afraid and then they have to
• 2:09:54
  have their own space, But that doesn't mean they don't stop, or that
• 2:09:58
  doesn't mean they stop using the space that they consider men's space. It's ours
• 2:10:05
  in mine, not yours and mine. And then guests, which ones are
• 2:10:11
  packed? My bet dimes to dollars, my bet would would absolutely be the
• 2:10:18
  mixed and not the female only, right. I'll bet they get upset if
• 2:10:24
  somebody accidentally steps on the wrong one, though a male accidentally steps on the
• 2:10:28
  wrong one. But I mean, that's what it is with bathrooms here in
• 2:10:33
  the United States. Minten have men's bathrooms. Women will just barge right in.
• 2:10:43
  And women never cared about that, Women never objected that, Women never
• 2:10:48
  said a word about that, right until they wanted to label trans women men,
• 2:10:56
  and regardless of how you feel about that part of the issue, then
• 2:10:58
  they wanted to object to them. Being in the women's room because there are
• 2:11:01
  men and call them dangerous because they're men, right, you know, I'm
• 2:11:07
  calling bullshit, Like I don't believe these carriages exist, these these trains exist
• 2:11:13
  because women are in mask getting groped by Japanese men. I think they are.
• 2:11:18
  They exist because women are in mass doing exactly the same thing that women
• 2:11:20
  in the United States do. They exaggerate shit, they take offensive shit that
• 2:11:26
  isn't offensive, They make shit up, They take things as being sexual when
• 2:11:31
  they're not. A woman will hear you say something innocuous, and if there
• 2:11:37
  is a dirty minded interpretation of it, she'll accuse you of sexually harassing her
• 2:11:41
  by using loaded language that you didn't load right. So I would bet that
• 2:11:52
  this is not due to harassment. I would bet that this is due to
• 2:11:56
  the tendency of women to sieve or treat things as harassment because it is to
• 2:12:03
  their advantage, or because it makes them feel wanted, or because it gets
• 2:12:07
  them um special treatment that they wouldn't receive if they weren't playing victim. It's
• 2:12:15
  just my my guest, and I would bet that, just just off hand,
• 2:12:22
  Japanese men are so used to putting up with that and and they are
• 2:12:26
  so guyna centric UM as a population, especially the older Japanese men, that
• 2:12:33
  they they just tolerate it and they don't necessarily view it as victimization of them
• 2:12:39
  or inappropriate treatment of them. Oh okay, so it's Pokemon mewtwo, mew
• 2:12:46
  like mewtwo, of course, that's It's one that I h I like,
• 2:12:52
  but I've never really learned enough about. My son would laugh at me though.
• 2:12:56
  UM. Oh yeah. The vote of the dollar choke. Dongle gate
• 2:13:01
  was for for people who are UM less than you know. Ten years in
• 2:13:09
  the movement. UM dongle gate was a situation at Pikon I think it was
• 2:13:13
  Pikon where there was a a speaker on a stage. There were a couple
• 2:13:20
  of guys, a couple of texts UM at the event that were UM sitting
• 2:13:26
  in the audience and talking. And one of them said, I noticed the
• 2:13:33
  size of a dongle dongle he had attached to one of his devices, and
• 2:13:39
  said, you know, oh, that's a big dongle. And and then
• 2:13:43
  uh, one of them said something about I can't remember the way it is,
• 2:13:48
  was forking UM, forking your code. I'd like to fork his code,
• 2:13:54
  UM, which was explained to me as basically, if you have written
• 2:14:03
  a program and there's um a function that it does that, somebody wants to
• 2:14:09
  create something that uses that function to do something else, So they create code
• 2:14:13
  that starts at that point and moves forward to describe dex that's forking off,
• 2:14:20
  which makes sense. But there was a woman sitting in front of him that
• 2:14:26
  took this, oh, repo, I'd fork his repo. That took this
• 2:14:31
  in a sexual way, which it doesn't matter. It might have been,
• 2:14:35
  but it doesn't really matter because they weren't conversing with her. She just overheard
• 2:14:39
  it and she got upset and she tweeted about it, and her tweet went
• 2:14:43
  viral and they got fired. Oh my god, and then she got canceled,
• 2:14:48
  and she played a victim at getting canceled. And yeah. Humungus was
• 2:14:52
  another one. Humungus was a guy that went to ask a question at a
• 2:15:00
  at an incident or event, and though his question offended the woman running the
• 2:15:05
  event, she demanded to know his name. She went full care on him,
• 2:15:09
  started asking him all kinds of personal questions and yelling at him and everything.
• 2:15:13
  So he told her his name was Hugh, and she said Hugh what
• 2:15:16
  and he says, Hugh Mongus And he patted his belly and not anything else.
• 2:15:22
  It was definitely not a sexual reference, you know, unless like you
• 2:15:30
  have a fetish for belly buttons or something. But he patted his belly and
• 2:15:33
  she just went ballistic. Humongus what Hughmongus what she called security on him and
• 2:15:39
  everything like it just like went ballistic on him. Um docked him yep.
• 2:15:46
  And Varna Joshi say her name, yeah, and it or something like that.
• 2:15:52
  I can never remember. She was, but she was very upset and
• 2:15:56
  oh yeah, she did that to herself, like she made herself upset,
• 2:16:00
  you know, and that and that tendency that behavior is he did he put
• 2:16:05
  his hand on his belly, Um when it was it was it was definitely
• 2:16:09
  a joke about being fat. He made a fat joke about himself, and
• 2:16:13
  she took it in a sexual way. Right. And even even if he
• 2:16:16
  knew that there was a double entendre there, you know, he she would
• 2:16:24
  have to know, she would have to have the men's rea, She would
• 2:16:28
  have to know his mind, have to know what he was thinking right now.
• 2:16:33
  Even if there was m it wouldn't have been a big deal. I
• 2:16:37
  mean, like, right, he didn't he didn't do anything to her.
• 2:16:39
  He didn't, right, he didn't violate anybody's right. He just made he
• 2:16:45
  responded to you in a way that you didn't like. Well, lady,
• 2:16:48
  who are you She was acting like a psychohos beast already. She absolutely absolutely
• 2:16:54
  and would not let up and demanded the man did that that other men,
• 2:17:01
  the security officers get involved to come around and help save her. Oh my
• 2:17:09
  god, because this man with a sense of humor, right that said words
• 2:17:13
  that offended my earballs. Oh my god. Yeah, it's just a but
• 2:17:20
  And this is the United States of America, and this is what women are
• 2:17:24
  allowed to get away with. This is so much bigger than the United to
• 2:17:30
  say, is everywhere? Is everywhere? She, as an Eastern person,
• 2:17:37
  did it on behalf of the European accent she had in order in order to
• 2:17:45
  get across to the western and I mean American sensibilities to whom she was patndaring
• 2:17:54
  like this. This goes all the way from this goes all the way from
• 2:18:00
  the east to the west, all the way from as far east as Japan
• 2:18:05
  to the far west as fucking Hollywood. Yeah, you know, and men
• 2:18:13
  don't have the same capability with regard to that, like and I've experienced this.
• 2:18:18
  Um. You know, we've heard me talk about God evolves and his
• 2:18:22
  efforts at getting meat banned, which resulted in him getting banned, which was
• 2:18:26
  great. But one of the things that he did was he went back,
• 2:18:31
  he scrolled back through my Twitter feed trying to find something to report me for.
• 2:18:35
  And the only thing he found that he could can he could treat it
• 2:18:41
  like it was something objectionable, was an image I posted. Walmart has these
• 2:18:48
  nice little buns that it's funny. They're shaped like a pair of lips.
• 2:18:54
  Either end. You can visualize either end and you'll be fairly correct. They
• 2:18:58
  don't have all the rinkles or the bottom end, but you know, if
• 2:19:01
  you have an imagination, but they look like a mouse. Um. And
• 2:19:05
  they it's basically just a football shaped thing that they've split before they cooked it
• 2:19:13
  so that it has an indentation in the middle when when they cook it,
• 2:19:16
  and they sell them unsweetened, and they're just puffy, and they sell them
• 2:19:22
  sweetened. And the way they sweeten them is the same way they um glazed
• 2:19:26
  donuts. They dip them in a vat of hot sugar that is liquefied and
• 2:19:33
  it coats them and it's like sugar and butter and and I think maybe water
• 2:19:39
  UM makes this glaze. Well, they they kind of shrivel up. So
• 2:19:45
  I put I posted it on Twitter with some texts. I put a fat
• 2:19:50
  text with the puffy ones that said before and a skinny text with the shriveled
• 2:19:56
  ones that said after. Didn't give any you know, any further description.
• 2:20:03
  I mean, you could view it as inn window. You could. You
• 2:20:05
  could view it as just look what happens, how they shrivel up when you
• 2:20:09
  glaze them. You know, could have been completely innocent. It wasn't,
• 2:20:13
  but it could have been UM, but he was. He was deeply offended
• 2:20:18
  by this and decided to make it a statement about UM the ruination of the
• 2:20:26
  genitalia of women who have had sex, and tried really hard to shame me
• 2:20:31
  for it, and it resulted in him getting laughed at roundly by everyone in
• 2:20:39
  the conversation, including the other feminists. UM. I think Tecla even called
• 2:20:46
  him out on that. And a male feminist gen Bottle, not a not
• 2:20:50
  a regular male UM, but yeah, and and that that just like I
• 2:20:56
  ended up making a meme out of it where I screenshot his comments and put
• 2:21:01
  red text, you know, on the meme that didn't hide his comments that
• 2:21:05
  said you got triggered by bread, And then I just used that as my
• 2:21:09
  replies to him after that, because how can you take somebody seriously after they
• 2:21:15
  got triggered by bread? You know? But that's what happens when a guy
• 2:21:20
  tries to do it right. When a guy tries to do it, he
• 2:21:24
  gets made fun of, he gets shamed by his friends, he becomes ineffective
• 2:21:31
  in any further criticism. That's the end of it. Like there was,
• 2:21:33
  he lost the moment he did that, the whole conflict between him and me
• 2:21:37
  he lost. For the whole rest of the conflict, he had no power.
• 2:21:43
  But if if it had been the other way around, if I'd have
• 2:21:46
  been a dude, right and he'd have been a lady, then he would
• 2:21:52
  have been able to use it against me. Then it would have been inappropriate.
• 2:21:56
  Somebody would have been looking up my employer. I would have been accused
• 2:22:01
  of harassing her, right, it would have been a whole big thing,
• 2:22:05
  totally different response. Right, But with that, I think we're gonna have
• 2:22:11
  to continue this article next week because there's there's quite a bit more here,
• 2:22:16
  and also, you know, probably want to look a little more at that
• 2:22:20
  graph, but I do want to read the rest of this, But it
• 2:22:24
  is nine fifty three, and I want to point out that, you know,
• 2:22:28
  there's one hundred and ninety five countries globally, and these are the only
• 2:22:33
  thirty two that they're looking at. So that might be something else to kind
• 2:22:37
  of dig into, but those are the ones that we're publishing the report.
• 2:22:41
  Um yeah, thirty two countries. I don't know if maybe they couldn't get
• 2:22:46
  responses from some of the other countries, but um yeah, who knows.
• 2:22:54
  Like the chart kind of makes it. You want to feel good about the
• 2:23:03
  numbers that they're putting in the chart, but I'm looking at what's not there.
• 2:23:07
  Yeah. If I had to make a bet and it put money on,
• 2:23:11
  why I would my money would be on the organization. Let's see,
• 2:23:15
  the organization's name is the Global Institute for Women's Leadership. I will bet there
• 2:23:24
  are probably chapters or offices for this organization in all of those countries. They
• 2:23:33
  may be established in academia in all of those countries, but they're not established
• 2:23:37
  in the countries that are omitted and that's probably why these countries were included.
• 2:23:45
  And if you notice these are these are countries that are more financially active,
• 2:23:56
  well, South Africa, it might not be the financial partner with the rest
• 2:24:01
  of the world might be. I don't know enough about that one. But
• 2:24:05
  a lot of these countries or countries where I'm not necessarily going to say they're
• 2:24:11
  all there, it's fair to say they're probably all first world, have mostly
• 2:24:18
  first world characteristics or have a first world financial relationship with other countries in the
• 2:24:24
  world. Yea, and yeah, so because feminism is a first world thing,
• 2:24:28
  like, you don't see feminism in as so much taking hold in countries
• 2:24:35
  where the the biggest problem is that the water is too dirty for anybody to
• 2:24:41
  drink it. Right. Feminists will talk about those areas and they'll claim ownership
• 2:24:46
  of those areas, and they'll tell everybody how hard women have it in those
• 2:24:50
  areas. But they don't do as much in those areas unless there is a
• 2:24:56
  governing body that provides money for it, right that they get if they can
• 2:25:01
  grift the un or grift then the country's government to give them money to serve
• 2:25:09
  women in that country than they will. And I think first world countries give
• 2:25:13
  them a lot more opportunity that you know, countries where the biggest problem is
• 2:25:16
  um, whether the dress is what was it blue or silver or blue or
• 2:25:20
  white? I don't know, I've never really got it. That controversy that
• 2:25:24
  on, like yeah, supposedly took the Internet by storm. Like those countries
• 2:25:30
  are where feminism really does most of what it's doing because it spends all you
• 2:25:33
  know, it gets all that money from governments that are overtaxing their people and
• 2:25:37
  then spending it on stuff like feminism. Yeah, and that that's like especially
• 2:25:46
  you know you see, um, Canada, Britain, US, you know,
• 2:25:50
  Germany, France, Belgium, like these countries all have and they're they're
• 2:25:56
  they're funding feminism in the country. India spends a lot of money on feminism.
• 2:26:03
  I'm not so sure Saudi Arabia is funding feminism, but I will bet
• 2:26:07
  that there are foreign nations funding feminism in Saudi Arabia. Hence they're all arguing
• 2:26:13
  of the question of what is a woman? Yeah, it is either the
• 2:26:18
  tough evaluation of what is a woman? Or is the what's the word um
• 2:26:33
  that that other thing oh um session interessional, intercessional interpretation of what is a
• 2:26:41
  woman. That's like the blue and black versus gold and white interpretation of what
• 2:26:48
  is a woman? That's whatever one of the world is doing now, it's
• 2:26:52
  just two different versions of feminism. Yeah, that's a version now that that's
• 2:27:00
  how we colonize the world. Is it this color of feminism or this other
• 2:27:05
  color of feminism? Yeah, one way or another, we're going to colonize
• 2:27:11
  all of you. That's that's what it takes. It's it's not about whatever
• 2:27:18
  color of uniform your soldiers are wearing. It's whatever color of uniform your feminists
• 2:27:26
  are wearing. One way or another, We're going to colonize all of you.
• 2:27:30
  So that so that you conform to our version of gandacentrism, which is
• 2:27:37
  whatever version of gand decentrism will colonize you. Good luck the world. Yeah,
• 2:27:46
  you know, I kind of wish I had been asked that question um
• 2:27:50
  as part of that video, because I would have pissed everybody off, except
• 2:27:54
  for UM people who who already like this show. If somebody to me,
• 2:28:00
  what is a woman, my answer would be a person who has less responsibility,
• 2:28:07
  less accountability, and less obligation than a man, but still demands all
• 2:28:11
  the same rights. Yep. And that's all I would say. I wouldn't
• 2:28:16
  say anything about biology, wouldn't say anything about trans this or or biological gender
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  that secs that nothing. I mean, you really don't need to. You
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  really don't need to, because that is the axis on which we're actually playing,
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  that is the fuel that we're actually playing on. It's not about your
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  chromosomes or anything. It's about rights and responsibilities. And we can say it's
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  clearly a black and yellow issue, and we cannot We can definitively say on
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  this show on a basis of that definition, that trans women are not recognized
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  in modern society as women because they are not treated as if they have less
• 2:29:09
  obligation than men. They are not treated as though they have less accountability than
• 2:29:13
  men or less less responsibility than men. They can be treated as responsible for
• 2:29:20
  things that other trans women or other people claiming to be trans women have done.
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  Right, So they're still getting treated like men. There you go,
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  that's the problem. That's the crux of the issue is trans women are getting
• 2:29:39
  treated like men, and people are objecting to them going into women's restroom,
• 2:29:46
  not because they're necessarily all dangerous, but because those people are prejudiced against men,
• 2:29:56
  and they presume them that way because they are men. Dare you people,
• 2:30:01
  I'm prejudiced against women? Dare you? I dare I dare um?
• 2:30:07
  And and I dare to call the end of the show. So I think
• 2:30:11
  I've kept up with the super chats. I don't think there's any that I've
• 2:30:18
  missed. I hope I haven't missed any. Um. I did miss last
• 2:30:22
  week a super Chow, So before I read this week's super Chows, I'm
• 2:30:28
  gonna scroll up here through all the different shows we did. I remember showing
• 2:30:35
  you guys the Chad. That was cool. But Meredith, she sent us
• 2:30:39
  a super chow and I didn't see it or it didn't show one or the
• 2:30:46
  other. In either way, I didn't read it. She said it gave
• 2:30:52
  us five dollars and said thanks for the conversation. I've been at office jobs
• 2:30:56
  for over twenty years, and I have found that trashing the bathroom has become,
• 2:31:00
  I'm an increasing problem in the last ten years. Was it a problem
• 2:31:03
  when I got out of college. As the number of women increased in bathroom,
• 2:31:05
  the bathroom cleanliness decreased, and I, you know, like that's that's
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  a fair notice, a fair assessment, because that's a consistent problem everywhere I've
• 2:31:16
  worked. If you if there are gendered bathrooms, the women's room is terrible.
• 2:31:26
  And the worst story I heard was my dad when he retired. I
• 2:31:33
  take after my dad when I've said I'm never going to retire. It's you
• 2:31:37
  know, I watched my dad like when he couldn't work, his health deteriorated
• 2:31:46
  rapidly, and it's I I think I'm the same way. If I don't
• 2:31:52
  have work to do, um, my health deteriorates. And so he took
• 2:31:58
  a job at a retail establishment for for makers, hobbyists and stuff that one
• 2:32:09
  of the departments that that establishment was was frames and framing of artistic work,
• 2:32:16
  and he had experience in that as a photographer, right, So he was
• 2:32:20
  there for I guess until pretty close to the COVID crisis before he really couldn't
• 2:32:28
  do that anymore. And one night, you know, I was talking to
• 2:32:35
  him about my experiences at the gas station with the gas station bathrooms, and
• 2:32:39
  he's like, yeah, there's a kid whose responsibility it was to sweep out
• 2:32:43
  the bathrooms and I don't know what was going on in the women's room.
• 2:32:46
  He said, but one night he came running out of there, went straight
• 2:32:50
  to the mop bucket and just vomited. Oh I'm like, yeah, I'm
• 2:32:56
  I'm betting that that was that was either poop or period, because probably it
• 2:33:05
  might have been both. Um. Yes, like women will have a battle
• 2:33:09
  problem and they will abuse a public bathroom, like just really abuse a public
• 2:33:16
  bathroom. So yeah, um, that makes sense. It fits. At
• 2:33:20
  least they don't require ire in your tires. Yeah, you know you got
• 2:33:24
  ire ire in your tars. Yes, yes, we've we've had that story.
• 2:33:31
  You got to say the accent, right, it's ire in your tars,
• 2:33:35
  are you know? And that's that's after you buy the owl for your
• 2:33:41
  earl. Oh well, that that particular um accent probably is all. It's
• 2:33:46
  all an ire. Yeah, but there are places in the US where it's
• 2:33:52
  earl. You buy earl for your car, an buy earl for your car.
• 2:33:56
  Um. But yeah, so we had that one. So that's the
• 2:34:01
  only one I missed before Um Meredith g gave us five dollars. Yeah,
• 2:34:07
  it's all Ohio, that's right, unless you're from the northern part of it,
• 2:34:11
  then it's uh, well that's when it's Ohio. If you're from the
• 2:34:13
  southern part of it. It's Ohio. Um, but and that's that's not
• 2:34:20
  it's more south than north, like more than the northern half is Ohio.
• 2:34:28
  Your country is too big, you just Ohio. Ohio is big enough.
• 2:34:37
  That part of the thing that led me being a men's rights activist was when
• 2:34:43
  my husband and I got married. Um the ex wife had such an objection
• 2:34:50
  to um him moving on and still being part of his children's lives that she,
• 2:34:56
  without leaving the state of Ohio, moved a four hour drive away.
• 2:35:03
  And we're not the biggest state, Like California takes up half or more than
• 2:35:07
  half of the It's like three quarters of the West coast is one state.
• 2:35:13
  It's like if if you moved from northern California to southern California, that's more
• 2:35:18
  than a four hour drive away. But yeah, so you know, like
• 2:35:22
  anyway, Meredith, that's our that's our situation. But Meredith gave us five
• 2:35:26
  dollars and said, honey for the Badgers, thanks for highlighting the invisible victims
• 2:35:31
  of IPD. And then Michael Emerich Windberg gave us five dollars and said,
• 2:35:37
  it's at times like this that I remember Dick Masterson's words, all women are
• 2:35:41
  good for us having children, but they're not very good at raising them.
• 2:35:45
  And that's that's you know true if you look at the situation with single moms.
• 2:35:50
  The current child custody support system works on that paradigm that men are able
• 2:35:54
  to raise their kids on their own, but women are not able to do
• 2:35:58
  so without either the state or a man. And I would I would actually
• 2:36:01
  argue even further than that. Um, even with the state or the money
• 2:36:09
  a man can provide, women are still not raising their kids. Um.
• 2:36:15
  And I honestly wouldn't have wanted to be a single mom. Um. I
• 2:36:20
  don't think the kids would have been okay if it had been just me either,
• 2:36:24
  And that's with me being more red pilled. Um. I still don't
• 2:36:31
  think I would have done well enough to raise the kids without my husband.
• 2:36:37
  I mean, there's a thing, is there's nervous thing? Is a single
• 2:36:41
  mom? Oh? Really, there's not. She has the state as the
• 2:36:46
  alpha male in her relationship, and that's the problem. Yeah, there are
• 2:36:52
  community moms, not moms of the community. Moms that exploit the community.
• 2:36:58
  Yeah. Um. And then Michael gave us another five dollars and said you
• 2:37:03
  think that's air you're breathing. You're mind me of my mother's words. She
• 2:37:07
  often says, even though she never realized the irony of it in the past
• 2:37:09
  three years, that if the government could tax our air, they would,
• 2:37:16
  Well, what do you call forbidding you to even breathe outside your home without
• 2:37:18
  constantly buying disposable masks and paying the the vat that comes attached to them.
• 2:37:26
  And that's a good point, Like you were forbidden to breathe the government's air
• 2:37:33
  for for three years, right, Um, Then we got another comment from
• 2:37:41
  Michael Windberg. Michael Imrich wind Windberg gave us five dollars this stupid uh pop
• 2:37:50
  up coming from um discord once to sell me something like shut up discord um
• 2:37:56
  David's five dollars and said, I'm sorry, but I can't see those results
• 2:37:58
  as all that I'm saying. Survey is similar to how less than ten percent
• 2:38:03
  of women identify as feminists in the sense that they may pay lip service that
• 2:38:07
  women's equality has gone too far, but their main gripe is that men no
• 2:38:11
  longer are no longer fulfilling whatever needs they have, no more real men,
• 2:38:15
  etc. And would not for anything in the world support any policy change that
• 2:38:18
  would benefit the rights of men over the privileges of women. And it's a
• 2:38:22
  good point. It's a very good point. He's out of line, but
• 2:38:26
  he's not wrong. Well, he's not even out of line. Here's the
• 2:38:28
  thing I think when this survey gets done, they're probably getting answers from both
• 2:38:35
  sexes. When women recognize that men are discriminated against, it is often because
• 2:38:41
  of circumstances, like in India where they have dowry laws that almost necessitated abuse.
• 2:38:52
  Women are getting arrested with their with their sons and their brothers or their
• 2:38:58
  dads, and that's that's they're probably noticing the discrimination against him because of the
• 2:39:05
  consequences they're experiencing. I've met a lot of women who are second wives,
• 2:39:11
  like like me, that only care about the discrimination against men in the family
• 2:39:20
  court system because it has impacted them. And I mean, I've experienced that
• 2:39:24
  impact in everything. But it's it's that's not what makes it unfair, Like
• 2:39:31
  men are committing suicide. Men are dying over this. Even if they weren't
• 2:39:37
  dying over this, they shouldn't have to die for people to recognize that.
• 2:39:41
  If you're forced to labor for someone else's financial benefit forced at gun point,
• 2:39:48
  essentially, because when you are arrested, you are arrested by people with guns.
• 2:39:54
  Cops always have guns. They always have guns, and they always have
• 2:39:56
  tasers. And the current pattern of news definitely should make people aware that they're
• 2:40:03
  not always wise in their use or careful in their use of either, you
• 2:40:11
  know. So it's it's fair to say that men are enslaved, right,
• 2:40:16
  But when it comes to women recognizing that, I think it is true that
• 2:40:22
  most women who recognize that recognize it because they have been disadvantaged as a result
• 2:40:28
  of the discrimination against a man in their lives, not because he was disadvantaged
• 2:40:33
  by it. So there's that I think men might have the same problem.
• 2:40:43
  Some men might have the same problem because men get very distressed when bad things
• 2:40:46
  happen to the people that they take care of. Right, But at the
• 2:40:52
  same time, ten years ago, if this survey was done, I would
• 2:40:58
  bet that none of these countries numbers would be as high as they are now
• 2:41:03
  in recognizing that men faced discrimination. So it is a toe in the door,
• 2:41:07
  not a whole foot, but a toe in the door of getting people
• 2:41:11
  to understand that discrimination against men is happening. And that it is an injustice.
• 2:41:18
  We need to get people to recognize that our society has a responsibility to
• 2:41:26
  as as a society that recognizes human rights, to respect men's human rights just
• 2:41:31
  as much as women's, and to not allow discrimination that results in disadvantage for
• 2:41:39
  men. Right, But that's a next step and a next so I consider
• 2:41:46
  this a baby step. It is still a positive. It doesn't have to
• 2:41:50
  be a giant step forward to be happy about it. It's a beginning of
• 2:41:58
  momentum. But it only works that way if we pick it up and move
• 2:42:03
  with it. Right. See, Yeah, that's the super chows. I'm
• 2:42:09
  going to keep that open. Look and see if we have where is rumbull?
• 2:42:16
  There we go comments on rumble? Why the hell won't the paid show?
• 2:42:26
  You know, this is something that my computers have all started doing in
• 2:42:28
  the last year that I swear to you they didn't do before. If I
• 2:42:33
  have one tab open and I'm looking at that tab and then I moved to
• 2:42:35
  another tab and I minimize or put Like if I have windows open with tabs
• 2:42:46
  and I put one window in front of another window, my computer ditches the
• 2:42:50
  information from the tab I was looking at before, and it has to reload,
• 2:42:56
  and I don't know what changed, but let's see here where is that's
• 2:43:01
  the wrong tab? So now I can find the right tab. Here we
• 2:43:05
  go, all right, and and we'll actually have a pretty active life chat
• 2:43:11
  this time. I usually see like four or five comments and there's like thirty
• 2:43:16
  here. Um, but let's see and then everybody enjoyed. Humongous um going
• 2:43:24
  backwards. Yeah, occupying forty two pointed out in regard to um the the
• 2:43:35
  beginning discussion, I'd be willing to bet that at the time, if a
• 2:43:39
  white woman whistled at a black man, a man would have seen some consequences.
• 2:43:43
  Yeah, Lauren, what are you gonna say? I was gonna say.
• 2:43:48
  I don't know if Neat is still in the chat, but the last
• 2:43:52
  stream she was talking about Rumble, because um, you know this this the
• 2:43:58
  push to get everybody over to Rumble. And my biggest problem was that within
• 2:44:03
  the mobile app there's no live chat, and so I updated the app and
• 2:44:09
  I think that they actually fixed that. So um, thank you Neat,
• 2:44:15
  because yeah, I definitely want to move over there, and uh, you
• 2:44:20
  know, let's let's yeah get away from YouTube. They suck. I wish
• 2:44:26
  a restream would get on board with that, like restream has, it gives
• 2:44:31
  me a one chat and that I can read. Um, I can see
• 2:44:37
  comments from um, Facebook, I can see comments from Twitch, I can
• 2:44:45
  see comments from YouTube. UM. I think that's actually it as far as
• 2:44:50
  what we're getting on and most of them are of course from from YouTube,
• 2:44:56
  but we do have some people watching on Twitch because as I see comments in
• 2:45:01
  the chat on Twitch. Um. But I would love to see it integrate
• 2:45:09
  with Rumble so that live comments on Rumble would also show in the chat.
• 2:45:15
  That would make my life easier. UM. Yeah, we don't have any
• 2:45:18
  paid Rumble rants, but but that was an interesting point. Um. And
• 2:45:26
  and yeah, um, if we threw the bureaucracy in the harbor, the
• 2:45:31
  best analogy would be throwing leeches in Yeah, that's perfect. That is absolutely
• 2:45:37
  perfect. Um. So so there we go. That is that is all
• 2:45:41
  of our chats that I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and read. I'm not
• 2:45:45
  gonna read um all of the comments. But h and also they did notice,
• 2:45:52
  um they did get the title uh correct in Dante's peak. Um.
• 2:45:58
  So there we go. But with that, I'm going to thank everybody for
• 2:46:01
  listening. This was a little bit of an extra long sausage, and we're
• 2:46:05
  not done. I would like to thank everyone who didn't turn up to our
• 2:46:13
  YouTube chat, who usually does an account of how much they hate us.
• 2:46:20
  I'd like to think. I'd like to think I was part of why they
• 2:46:24
  didn't persist. There you go, because they hate me more than hate than
• 2:46:28
  they hate anyone else. Thanks everyone for thinning the herd into the people who
• 2:46:37
  love us. By those who shall not be named, you have to deserve
• 2:46:43
  to be named, you know. And no, I'm not running for president
• 2:46:48
  like I was it for president they chat. Don't do that. I do
• 2:46:52
  not want the job. Um can't do the job with a gate belt,
• 2:46:56
  right unless you know Aiden is still there and he might need one. But
• 2:47:03
  anyway, thanks everybody for listening. Thanks you guys for sticking out the long
• 2:47:05
  sausage with me and talking about this. And you know, I gotta say
• 2:47:09
  thanks to doctor John Barry for writing this article. It's really fascinating article.
• 2:47:15
  And yeah, of course thanks to everybody who works in the background to make
• 2:47:18
  HBr talk happen. Good night all, good night, y'all.