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From Stadiums to Studios: The Journey of a Gospel Artist · Music Explored Podcast

• 0:00
  Amazing
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  experience.
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  Going
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  to
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  South
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  Korea
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  to
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  sing
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  before,
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  I
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  think
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  it
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  was
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  about
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  a
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  stadium
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  of
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  25,000
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  people.
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  That
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  was
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  amazing,
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  too.
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  And
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  traveling
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  to
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  different
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  places
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  like
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  Nigeria
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  and
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  all
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  of
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  that.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  was
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  with
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  the
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  label
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  for
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  a
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  time
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  and
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  then
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  I.
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  I
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  got
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  dropped
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  from
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  the
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  label.
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  Got
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  dropped
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  from
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  the
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  label.
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  A
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  back
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  then
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  actually
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  got
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  dropped.
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  So
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  I
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  don't
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  feel
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  too
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  bad
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  about
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  it
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  because
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  when
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  you
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  have
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  people
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  like
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  Karen
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  Clark
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  getting
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  dropped,
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  and
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  I'm
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  like,
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  okay,
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  I'm
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  good,
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  you
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  know,
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  So,
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  I
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  mean,
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  lady,
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  if
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  you're
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  getting
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  dropped,
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  that
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  I
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  don't
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  feel
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  too
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  bad.
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  You
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  know
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  what
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  I'm
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  saying?
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  And
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  I
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  think.
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  back
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  then
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  there
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  was
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  just
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  an
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  issue
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  with
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  record
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  labels
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  on
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  a
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  whole.
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  if
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  it's
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  gotten
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  better.
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  I
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  think
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  there's
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  labels
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  that.
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  Right.
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  That
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  have
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  been
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  shutting
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  down
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  and
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  so
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  on.
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  And
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  so
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  back
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  then,
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  if.
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  I
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  mean,
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  if
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  you
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  weren't
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  doing
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  sales
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  like
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  Kirk
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  Franklin
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  at
• 1:00
  the
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  time
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  with
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  Stomp,
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  then
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  you
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  just
• 1:03
  weren't
• 1:03
  staying.
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  You
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  just
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  weren't
• 1:06
  staying
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  on
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  a
• 1:07
  label.
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  They
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  just
• 1:08
  didn't.
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  They
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  didn't
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  see
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  you
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  as
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  a
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  real
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  asset.
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  Like,
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  you
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  needed
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  to
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  be
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  selling
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  like
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  X
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  amount
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  of
• 1:15
  units
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  at
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  a
• 1:16
  time.
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  So
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  I
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  don't
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  have
• 1:19
  any
• 1:19
  hate
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  towards
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  them,
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  though.
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  They
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  really
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  did
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  an
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  excellent
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  job
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  introducing
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  me
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  to
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  the
• 1:24
  industry.
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  I
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  got
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  known
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  by
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  because
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  of
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  that
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  album
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  and
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  stuff,
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  so
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  I'm
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  grateful
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  to
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  them,
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  actually.
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  I
• 1:30
  really
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  have
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  nothing
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  bad
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  to
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  say.
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  And
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  it
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  was
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  a
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  great
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  opportunity
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  for
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  me
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  and
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  it
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  was
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  the
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  opening
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  door
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  to
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  where
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  I
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  am
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  now.
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  So
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  I've
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  recorded.
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  Recorded
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  that
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  album.
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  I
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  recorded
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  great
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  Things,
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  which
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  was
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  Live
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  Back
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  in.
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  It
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  was
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  either
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  2010
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  or
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  2011,
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  and
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  I've
• 1:50
  done
• 1:50
  singles
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  in
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  between.
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  And
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  right
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  now
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  I'm
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  working
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  on
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  my
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  next
• 1:54
  project,
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  which
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  is
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  soon
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  to
• 1:58
  be
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  released
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  this
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  fall.
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  This
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  fall?
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  Throughout
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  next
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  year.
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  Yeah,
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  a
• 2:02
  bunch
• 2:02
  of
• 2:03
  tracks
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  will
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  be
• 2:03
  released.
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  So.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Wow.
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  Yes.
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  You
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  just
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  took
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  us.
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  You
• 2:07
  took
• 2:07
  us
• 2:07
  through
• 2:07
  your
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  whole
• 2:08
  career
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  in
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  a
• 2:09
  bit
• 2:09
  of
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  a
• 2:09
  nutshell
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  there.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I
• 2:12
  mean,
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  congratulations
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  on
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  your
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  success
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  so
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  far.
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  You've
• 2:15
  done
• 2:15
  a
• 2:15
  lot
• 2:15
  of
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  really
• 2:16
  amazing.
• 2:16
  You've
• 2:16
  been
• 2:17
  in
• 2:17
  some
• 2:17
  movies,
• 2:17
  too.
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  It's
• 2:18
  been
• 2:18
  good.
• 2:19
  You've
• 2:19
  been
• 2:19
  doing
• 2:20
  some
• 2:20
  acting.
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  Yeah.
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  Done
• 2:22
  a
• 2:22
  lot.
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  Done
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  a
• 2:23
  lot.
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  Done.
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  Is
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  that
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  something
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  that
• 2:24
  you
• 2:24
  always
• 2:24
  wanted
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  to
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  do,
• 2:25
  acting,
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  or
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  is
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  that
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  just
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  like.
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  I,
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  you
• 2:27
  know,
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  I
• 2:27
  didn't
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  know
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  that
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  wanted
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  to
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  do
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  it.
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  I
• 2:30
  didn't
• 2:30
  know
• 2:30
  I
• 2:30
  got
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  the
• 2:31
  opportunity
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  came
• 2:32
  and
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  I
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  said,
• 2:33
  okay,
• 2:33
  let's
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  try
• 2:34
  it.
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  And
• 2:34
  it
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  was
• 2:35
  fun.
• 2:35
  I
• 2:35
  loved
• 2:36
  it.
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  So,
• 2:37
  yeah,
• 2:37
  it's
• 2:37
  something
• 2:37
  that
• 2:38
  I
• 2:38
  would
• 2:38
  love
• 2:38
  to
• 2:38
  continue
• 2:39
  to
• 2:39
  do
• 2:39
  wherever
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  the
• 2:40
  opportunity
• 2:40
  presents
• 2:41
  itself.
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  Okay,
• 2:42
  you
• 2:42
  heard
• 2:42
  that,
• 2:43
  folks.
• 2:46
  Heard
• 2:46
  it
• 2:46
  here.
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  First.
• 2:50
  I
• 2:50
  have
• 2:50
  a
• 2:50
  question
• 2:51
  about
• 2:51
  your
• 2:52
  time
• 2:53
  with
• 2:53
  the
• 2:53
  record
• 2:54
  label.
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  Was
• 2:55
  there
• 2:56
  anything
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  in
• 2:57
  that
• 2:57
  time
• 2:57
  going
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  on
• 2:58
  in
• 2:58
  Canada
• 2:59
  in
• 2:59
  terms
• 2:59
  of
• 2:59
  just
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  any
• 3:00
  record
• 3:01
  labels
• 3:02
  interested
• 3:02
  in
• 3:02
  gospel
• 3:03
  music
• 3:03
  at
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  time?
• 3:04
  No.
• 3:05
  Yeah.
• 3:05
  And
• 3:05
  because
• 3:06
  I.
• 3:06
  I
• 3:06
  know
• 3:06
  that
• 3:06
  R
• 3:07
  B
• 3:07
  had
• 3:07
  a
• 3:07
  hard
• 3:07
  time,
• 3:08
  so
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  could
• 3:08
  imagine
• 3:09
  that
• 3:09
  gospel
• 3:09
  had
• 3:10
  even
• 3:10
  a
• 3:10
  harder
• 3:10
  time,
• 3:11
  you
• 3:11
  know?
• 3:11
  Right,
• 3:12
  right,
• 3:12
  right.
• 3:12
  I'm
• 3:13
  always
• 3:13
  curious
• 3:13
  as
• 3:14
  to
• 3:14
  why
• 3:14
  as
• 3:15
  a
• 3:15
  collective,
• 3:15
  we
• 3:16
  could
• 3:16
  never.
• 3:17
  Or
• 3:17
  the
• 3:17
  city
• 3:18
  or
• 3:18
  a
• 3:19
  group
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  people
• 3:19
  could
• 3:19
  never
• 3:20
  come
• 3:20
  together
• 3:20
  to
• 3:21
  form
• 3:21
  something
• 3:22
  that
• 3:22
  could
• 3:22
  help
• 3:23
  put
• 3:23
  specifically
• 3:24
  Toronto.
• 3:25
  Canada,
• 3:25
  on
• 3:25
  the
• 3:25
  map.
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  And
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  I
• 3:27
  wonder
• 3:28
  if
• 3:28
  you
• 3:28
  have
• 3:28
  any
• 3:29
  insight
• 3:29
  as
• 3:29
  to
• 3:29
  why.
• 3:30
  I
• 3:30
  think
• 3:31
  it's
• 3:31
  the
• 3:32
  all
• 3:33
  chefs,
• 3:33
  no
• 3:34
  cooks
• 3:34
  mentality
• 3:35
  that
• 3:35
  happens
• 3:36
  a
• 3:36
  lot
• 3:36
  in
• 3:36
  our
• 3:37
  community
• 3:37
  that
• 3:37
  is
• 3:40
  support
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  it.
• 3:41
  So
• 3:41
  it's
• 3:42
  sad
• 3:42
  and
• 3:42
  unfortunate
• 3:43
  that
• 3:43
  another
• 3:43
  Canadian
• 3:44
  talent
• 3:44
  had
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  go
• 3:45
  to
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  US
• 3:46
  to
• 3:46
  pop
• 3:47
  off
• 3:47
  and
• 3:47
  really
• 3:47
  make
• 3:48
  a
• 3:48
  name
• 3:48
  for
• 3:48
  herself.
• 3:48
  And
• 3:49
  Nashville.
• 3:49
  Yeah,
• 3:50
  I
• 3:50
  would
• 3:50
  never
• 3:50
  have
• 3:50
  guessed
• 3:51
  was
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  hub.
• 3:52
  I
• 3:52
  mean,
• 3:52
  now
• 3:53
  it
• 3:53
  makes
• 3:53
  sense,
• 3:54
  but
• 3:54
  back
• 3:54
  then,
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  would
• 3:54
  never
• 3:55
  guess
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  place
• 3:56
  to
• 3:56
  go
• 3:56
  for
• 3:57
  gospel
• 3:57
  music.
• 3:59
  Now
• 4:00
  when
• 4:00
  you're
• 4:00
  creating
• 4:00
  an
• 4:01
  album
• 4:01
  as
• 4:01
  like
• 4:01
  a
• 4:02
  secular
• 4:02
  artist,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:03
  have.
• 4:03
  You
• 4:04
  sit
• 4:04
  down
• 4:04
  and
• 4:04
  sometimes
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  come
• 4:05
  up
• 4:05
  with
• 4:05
  themes
• 4:06
  for
• 4:06
  singles,
• 4:07
  but
• 4:07
  with
• 4:08
  gospel,
• 4:08
  obviously,
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  theme
• 4:09
  is
• 4:09
  going
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  pretty
• 4:10
  much
• 4:11
  be
• 4:12
  consistent
• 4:12
  throughout.
• 4:14
  So
• 4:15
  with
• 4:15
  this
• 4:15
  new
• 4:15
  project,
• 4:16
  do
• 4:16
  you
• 4:16
  have
• 4:16
  any
• 4:17
  kind
• 4:17
  of
• 4:19
  themes
• 4:19
  or
• 4:20
  any
• 4:20
  types
• 4:20
  of
• 4:20
  subject
• 4:21
  matter
• 4:21
  that
• 4:21
  you
• 4:21
  might
• 4:22
  want
• 4:22
  to
• 4:22
  touch,
• 4:22
  or
• 4:22
  do
• 4:22
  you
• 4:22
  just
• 4:23
  go
• 4:23
  in
• 4:23
  and
• 4:24
  whatever
• 4:24
  you
• 4:24
  feel
• 4:25
  at
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  moment,
• 4:25
  you
• 4:25
  kind
• 4:25
  of
• 4:26
  just
• 4:26
  create?
• 4:27
  Mm.
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  would
• 4:28
  say
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  latter.
• 4:30
  Not
• 4:30
  that
• 4:31
  you
• 4:31
  can't
• 4:31
  have
• 4:31
  a
• 4:31
  theme.
• 4:32
  Of
• 4:32
  course
• 4:32
  you
• 4:32
  can.
• 4:33
  Of
• 4:33
  course.
• 4:34
  But
• 4:34
  with
• 4:35
  me,
• 4:35
  it's
• 4:36
  always
• 4:36
  been
• 4:39
  the
• 4:40
  latter.
• 4:41
  Where.
• 4:42
  Especially
• 4:42
  with
• 4:42
  this
• 4:43
  project,
• 4:43
  what
• 4:44
  happened
• 4:44
  was.
• 4:45
  Are
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  familiar
• 4:46
  with
• 4:46
  gospel
• 4:46
  music?
• 4:47
  Yes,
• 4:47
  ma'am.
• 4:48
  Okay.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:49
  Christian
• 4:50
  music.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:50
  ccm,
• 4:52
  not
• 4:52
  so
• 4:52
  much
• 4:53
  favorite
• 4:53
  stuff.
• 4:53
  Not
• 4:53
  so
• 4:54
  much
• 4:54
  ccm.
• 4:54
  I
• 4:54
  don't
• 4:55
  want
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  get.
• 4:56
  I'm
• 4:56
  familiar
• 4:56
  with
• 4:56
  them.
• 4:57
  Okay.
• 4:58
  So
• 4:58
  the
• 4:58
  only
• 4:58
  reason
• 4:59
  why
• 4:59
  I
• 4:59
  ask
• 4:59
  is
• 5:00
  because
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  person
• 5:00
  that
• 5:00
  I
• 5:01
  worked
• 5:01
  with.
• 5:02
  So
• 5:03
  for
• 5:03
  this,
• 5:04
  for
• 5:04
  these
• 5:04
  songs,
• 5:05
  the
• 5:06
  person
• 5:06
  that
• 5:06
  we
• 5:07
  called
• 5:07
  on
• 5:08
  to
• 5:08
  do
• 5:08
  actually
• 5:09
  a
• 5:09
  songwriting
• 5:10
  session,
• 5:10
  a
• 5:10
  songwriting
• 5:10
  camp,
• 5:11
  which
• 5:11
  I've
• 5:11
  never
• 5:11
  done
• 5:12
  before.
• 5:12
  Right.
• 5:12
  Usually
• 5:13
  if
• 5:13
  I'm
• 5:13
  going
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  write
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  song,
• 5:14
  I
• 5:14
  do
• 5:14
  it
• 5:14
  by
• 5:14
  myself.
• 5:15
  Got.
• 5:15
  I
• 5:15
  learned
• 5:16
  so
• 5:16
  much
• 5:16
  from
• 5:16
  doing
• 5:16
  a
• 5:17
  songwriting
• 5:17
  camp
• 5:19
  that
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  fact
• 5:20
  that
• 5:20
  you
• 5:20
  get
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  collaborate
• 5:21
  with
• 5:21
  different
• 5:22
  songwriters
• 5:22
  and
• 5:22
  come
• 5:22
  up
• 5:23
  with
• 5:23
  a
• 5:23
  song
• 5:23
  together
• 5:24
  is
• 5:24
  just
• 5:25
  fantastic.
• 5:26
  Like,
• 5:26
  why
• 5:26
  aren't
• 5:27
  we
• 5:27
  doing
• 5:27
  that?
• 5:29
  Right.
• 5:29
  Cuz
• 5:29
  sometimes
• 5:30
  you
• 5:30
  get
• 5:30
  songwriters
• 5:31
  block,
• 5:31
  you
• 5:31
  get
• 5:31
  writers
• 5:32
  block,
• 5:32
  and
• 5:32
  you
• 5:33
  can't
• 5:33
  think
• 5:33
  of
• 5:34
  what
• 5:34
  to.
• 5:34
  But
• 5:34
  there's
• 5:34
  somebody
• 5:35
  right
• 5:35
  there.
• 5:35
  Oh,
• 5:36
  how
• 5:36
  about
• 5:36
  this?
• 5:37
  How
• 5:37
  about
• 5:37
  that?
• 5:38
  How
• 5:38
  about
• 5:38
  this
• 5:39
  melody?
• 5:40
  Yeah.
• 5:41
  Like
• 5:41
  it.
• 5:41
  It
• 5:41
  just.
• 5:42
  And
• 5:42
  you.
• 5:42
  It
• 5:43
  flows
• 5:43
  so
• 5:43
  nicely.
• 5:45
  And
• 5:45
  I'm
• 5:46
  so
• 5:46
  grateful
• 5:47
  for
• 5:48
  what
• 5:48
  we
• 5:49
  came
• 5:49
  up
• 5:49
  with
• 5:49
  because
• 5:50
  it's.
• 5:50
  It's
• 5:50
  something
• 5:50
  that
• 5:51
  I
• 5:51
  wouldn't
• 5:51
  have
• 5:51
  come
• 5:51
  up
• 5:51
  with
• 5:51
  by
• 5:52
  myself.
• 5:52
  I
• 5:52
  just
• 5:53
  wouldn't.
• 5:54
  The
• 5:54
  lyrics
• 5:55
  are
• 5:55
  more
• 5:55
  in
• 5:55
  depth.
• 5:57
  And
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  person
• 5:58
  that
• 5:58
  I
• 5:58
  worked
• 5:59
  with,
• 5:59
  his
• 5:59
  name
• 5:59
  is
• 5:59
  LJ
• 6:00
  Mitchell.
• 6:01
  He's
• 6:01
  actually
• 6:01
  originally
• 6:03
  lj.
• 6:04
  Okay.
• 6:05
  So
• 6:05
  you
• 6:05
  know
• 6:05
  him?
• 6:06
  We
• 6:06
  had
• 6:07
  him
• 6:07
  on
• 6:07
  here.
• 6:07
  Okay,
• 6:08
  awesome.
• 6:09
  So
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  know
• 6:10
  he's
• 6:10
  with
• 6:10
  Elevation
• 6:10
  now.
• 6:11
  Yeah.
• 6:11
  Yes,
• 6:12
  yes.
• 6:12
  Right.
• 6:13
  So
• 6:13
  we
• 6:13
  called
• 6:13
  on
• 6:14
  him
• 6:14
  and
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  said,
• 6:14
  yo,
• 6:15
  we
• 6:15
  want
• 6:15
  you
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  come
• 6:16
  down
• 6:16
  here
• 6:16
  and
• 6:17
  let's
• 6:17
  do
• 6:17
  some
• 6:18
  writing.
• 6:18
  Because
• 6:18
  he's
• 6:19
  worked
• 6:19
  with
• 6:19
  Elevation.
• 6:20
  And
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  wanted
• 6:21
  something
• 6:22
  more
• 6:23
  than
• 6:23
  just.
• 6:23
  Even
• 6:24
  though
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
  say,
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
  know,
• 6:25
  when
• 6:25
  it
• 6:25
  comes
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  gospel,
• 6:26
  you
• 6:27
  know,
• 6:27
  there's
• 6:27
  a
• 6:27
  particular
• 6:28
  theme
• 6:28
  when
• 6:28
  it
• 6:28
  comes
• 6:29
  to
• 6:29
  gospel,
• 6:30
  but
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  didn't
• 6:30
  want
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  lyrics
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  just
• 6:32
  be
• 6:32
  churchy
• 6:32
  lyrics.
• 6:33
  Right,
• 6:34
  Got
• 6:34
  it.
• 6:34
  Yeah.
• 6:34
  I
• 6:35
  wanted
• 6:35
  them.
• 6:36
  I
• 6:36
  wanted
• 6:36
  to
• 6:36
  them
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  be
• 6:37
  more
• 6:37
  in
• 6:37
  depth,
• 6:38
  which
• 6:38
  is
• 6:38
  something
• 6:38
  that
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  appreciate
• 6:40
  about
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  CCM
• 6:41
  side
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  Christian
• 6:42
  music.
• 6:43
  You
• 6:43
  know
• 6:43
  what
• 6:43
  I'm
• 6:44
  saying?
• 6:44
  They.
• 6:45
  You
• 6:45
  know,
• 6:45
  people
• 6:45
  will
• 6:45
  complain
• 6:46
  and
• 6:46
  say,
• 6:46
  your
• 6:46
  songs
• 6:47
  are
• 6:47
  too
• 6:47
  wordy.
• 6:47
  Your
• 6:48
  songs
• 6:48
  are
• 6:48
  too.
• 6:48
  I
• 6:49
  shut
• 6:49
  that
• 6:49
  down.
• 6:49
  Like,
• 6:50
  I.
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  think
• 6:50
  that's
• 6:51
  something
• 6:51
  that
• 6:51
  we
• 6:51
  need
• 6:51
  to
• 6:51
  shut
• 6:52
  down.
• 6:52
  Because
• 6:52
  if
• 6:53
  you
• 6:53
  love
• 6:53
  hymns,
• 6:54
  then
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  have
• 6:55
  no
• 6:55
  problem
• 6:55
  learning
• 6:55
  the
• 6:55
  songs
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  CCM
• 6:56
  music.
• 6:57
  Yeah.
• 6:58
  Because
• 6:58
  hymns
• 6:59
  are
• 6:59
  just
• 6:59
  as
• 7:00
  wordy.
• 7:00
  Right.
• 7:01
  You
• 7:01
  know
• 7:01
  what
• 7:01
  I'm
• 7:02
  saying?
• 7:02
  And
• 7:02
  the
• 7:03
  reason
• 7:03
  why
• 7:03
  we
• 7:04
  know
• 7:04
  hymns
• 7:04
  is
• 7:05
  because
• 7:05
  we
• 7:05
  sang
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  same
• 7:06
  hymns
• 7:06
  over
• 7:06
  and
• 7:07
  over
• 7:07
  almost
• 7:07
  every
• 7:07
  Sunday.
• 7:08
  Exactly.
• 7:08
  That's
• 7:09
  right.
• 7:09
  Yeah.
• 7:09
  You
• 7:09
  know
• 7:10
  what
• 7:10
  I'm
• 7:10
  saying?
• 7:10
  So.
• 7:10
  Because
• 7:11
  it
• 7:11
  was
• 7:11
  sung
• 7:11
  over
• 7:12
  and
• 7:12
  over
• 7:12
  and
• 7:12
  now
• 7:13
  it
• 7:13
  gets
• 7:13
  in
• 7:13
  your
• 7:13
  mind
• 7:14
  and
• 7:14
  now
• 7:14
  you
• 7:14
  know
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  hymns
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  they're
• 7:15
  with
• 7:15
  you
• 7:15
  for
• 7:16
  life.
• 7:16
  No
• 7:16
  different
• 7:17
  from
• 7:17
  these
• 7:17
  songs.
• 7:18
  They're.
• 7:18
  They're
• 7:18
  just
• 7:18
  as
• 7:19
  wordy,
• 7:19
  but
• 7:19
  they're
• 7:20
  just
• 7:20
  as
• 7:20
  powerful,
• 7:21
  too,
• 7:21
  and
• 7:22
  speak
• 7:22
  to
• 7:24
  life
• 7:24
  situations
• 7:25
  and.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:26
  things
• 7:26
  that
• 7:27
  are
• 7:27
  relatable.
• 7:28
  Just
• 7:29
  like
• 7:29
  those
• 7:29
  songs
• 7:29
  were
• 7:30
  relatable
• 7:30
  to
• 7:31
  everyday
• 7:32
  life,
• 7:33
  you
• 7:33
  know,
• 7:33
  but
• 7:33
  not
• 7:33
  leaving
• 7:34
  out
• 7:34
  Jesus
• 7:34
  out
• 7:34
  of
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  equation.
• 7:35
  You
• 7:35
  can't
• 7:35
  do
• 7:36
  that
• 7:36
  if
• 7:36
  you're
• 7:36
  going
• 7:37
  to
• 7:37
  talk
• 7:37
  about
• 7:37
  Christian
• 7:37
  music.
• 7:38
  So
• 7:39
  that's
• 7:39
  what
• 7:40
  we
• 7:40
  did.
• 7:40
  And
• 7:40
  I.
• 7:41
  And
• 7:41
  actually
• 7:42
  with
• 7:42
  one
• 7:42
  of
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  songs,
• 7:43
  one
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  songs
• 7:44
  that
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  recorded
• 7:45
  is
• 7:45
  called
• 7:45
  Been
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  Long
• 7:46
  Time
• 7:46
  Coming.
• 7:47
  Okay.
• 7:48
  And
• 7:49
  what
• 7:49
  happened
• 7:49
  was
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  first
• 7:51
  writing
• 7:51
  session,
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  opened
• 7:52
  it
• 7:53
  with
• 7:53
  prayer.
• 7:53
  Like,
• 7:53
  we
• 7:53
  were
• 7:53
  talking.
• 7:54
  There
• 7:54
  was
• 7:54
  three
• 7:54
  of
• 7:54
  us,
• 7:55
  Karroy
• 7:56
  Williams,
• 7:56
  who's
• 7:56
  actually
• 7:57
  one
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  my
• 7:57
  BGVs,
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  then
• 7:58
  LJ
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  myself.
• 8:00
  And
• 8:00
  we
• 8:00
  were
• 8:00
  just
• 8:01
  talking
• 8:01
  about
• 8:01
  how,
• 8:02
  you
• 8:02
  know,
• 8:02
  they
• 8:03
  were
• 8:03
  LJ
• 8:03
  was
• 8:04
  asking
• 8:04
  me,
• 8:04
  you
• 8:04
  know,
• 8:04
  Londa,
• 8:05
  what
• 8:05
  is
• 8:05
  it
• 8:05
  that
• 8:05
  you
• 8:05
  want
• 8:05
  to
• 8:06
  come
• 8:06
  out
• 8:06
  of
• 8:06
  this
• 8:06
  session?
• 8:07
  What
• 8:07
  do
• 8:07
  you
• 8:07
  want
• 8:07
  to
• 8:07
  write
• 8:08
  about?
• 8:08
  Blah,
• 8:08
  blah,
• 8:08
  blah.
• 8:09
  And
• 8:09
  then
• 8:09
  we
• 8:09
  were
• 8:09
  talking
• 8:10
  about
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  whole
• 8:10
  bunch
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  stuff,
• 8:10
  like
• 8:11
  what
• 8:11
  we're
• 8:11
  talking
• 8:11
  about
• 8:11
  now,
• 8:12
  industry
• 8:12
  things
• 8:12
  and
• 8:13
  all
• 8:13
  that
• 8:13
  stuff.
• 8:14
  But
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  way
• 8:15
  that
• 8:15
  the.
• 8:15
  The.
• 8:16
  The
• 8:16
  conversation
• 8:16
  was
• 8:17
  going,
• 8:17
  I
• 8:18
  started
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  feel
• 8:18
  the
• 8:19
  Holy
• 8:19
  Ghost
• 8:19
  in
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  room,
• 8:19
  sir.
• 8:20
  And
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  said.
• 8:21
  I
• 8:22
  said,
• 8:22
  it's
• 8:22
  time
• 8:23
  for
• 8:23
  us
• 8:23
  to.
• 8:24
  Before
• 8:24
  we
• 8:24
  go
• 8:25
  any
• 8:25
  further,
• 8:25
  I
• 8:26
  need
• 8:26
  us
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  just
• 8:26
  open
• 8:26
  up
• 8:27
  in
• 8:27
  prayer.
• 8:27
  So
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  opened
• 8:28
  up
• 8:28
  in
• 8:29
  prayer,
• 8:29
  and
• 8:29
  in
• 8:30
  my
• 8:30
  prayer,
• 8:31
  you
• 8:31
  know,
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  was
• 8:31
  just
• 8:31
  giving
• 8:31
  God
• 8:32
  thanks
• 8:32
  for
• 8:32
  this
• 8:33
  opportunity
• 8:33
  to
• 8:33
  be.
• 8:33
  Even
• 8:34
  be
• 8:34
  working
• 8:34
  with
• 8:34
  LJ
• 8:36
  and
• 8:36
  my
• 8:37
  BG
• 8:37
  Beat
• 8:37
  for
• 8:37
  him
• 8:38
  to
• 8:38
  come
• 8:38
  and
• 8:39
  be
• 8:39
  willing
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  do.
• 8:39
  And
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  was
• 8:40
  like,
• 8:40
  God,
• 8:40
  you
• 8:40
  know,
• 8:40
  it's
• 8:41
  been
• 8:41
  a
• 8:41
  long
• 8:41
  time
• 8:41
  coming
• 8:42
  because
• 8:42
  I've
• 8:42
  been
• 8:42
  wanting
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  work
• 8:43
  on
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  new
• 8:45
  music
• 8:45
  and
• 8:46
  so
• 8:46
  on.
• 8:46
  And
• 8:47
  lj,
• 8:48
  as
• 8:49
  soon
• 8:49
  as
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  was
• 8:49
  done,
• 8:50
  he's
• 8:50
  like,
• 8:51
  londa,
• 8:51
  that
• 8:51
  prayer.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:52
  he
• 8:53
  just
• 8:53
  automatically
• 8:54
  started
• 8:54
  playing
• 8:56
  a
• 8:56
  melody
• 8:57
  to
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  words.
• 8:58
  Been
• 8:58
  a
• 8:58
  long
• 8:59
  time
• 8:59
  coming
• 9:01
  it's
• 9:02
  been
• 9:02
  a
• 9:02
  long
• 9:03
  time
• 9:03
  coming
• 9:05
  along
• 9:06
  Been
• 9:06
  a
• 9:06
  long
• 9:07
  time
• 9:07
  coming
• 9:08
  And
• 9:08
  I
• 9:09
  was
• 9:09
  like,
• 9:09
  jesus,
• 9:11
  what
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  going
• 9:12
  on
• 9:12
  here?
• 9:13
  It
• 9:13
  was
• 9:13
  so
• 9:14
  sweet.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:16
  we
• 9:16
  just
• 9:17
  started
• 9:17
  writing
• 9:17
  on
• 9:17
  top
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  that.
• 9:19
  And
• 9:19
  so.
• 9:20
  And
• 9:20
  now
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  song.
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  mean,
• 9:21
  it's
• 9:22
  my
• 9:22
  favorite
• 9:22
  song.
• 9:23
  One
• 9:23
  of.
• 9:24
  Right.
• 9:24
  Like,
• 9:24
  all
• 9:24
  the
• 9:25
  songs
• 9:25
  are
• 9:25
  powerful,
• 9:26
  but
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  one
• 9:27
  is
• 9:27
  one.
• 9:28
  And
• 9:28
  so
• 9:28
  we're
• 9:28
  like,
• 9:29
  londy,
• 9:29
  he
• 9:30
  said,
• 9:30
  london,
• 9:30
  every
• 9:31
  session
• 9:31
  we
• 9:31
  have,
• 9:31
  you're
• 9:31
  gonna
• 9:32
  open
• 9:32
  up
• 9:32
  in
• 9:32
  prayer,
• 9:33
  because,
• 9:33
  woman,
• 9:33
  you
• 9:33
  can
• 9:33
  pray
• 9:35
  and
• 9:36
  something
• 9:36
  out
• 9:36
  of
• 9:36
  your
• 9:36
  prayer.
• 9:37
  Yeah.
• 9:38
  So
• 9:39
  that.
• 9:39
  That.
• 9:40
  That.
• 9:40
  That
• 9:40
  was
• 9:41
  awesome.
• 9:41
  That
• 9:41
  was
• 9:42
  awesome.
• 9:42
  Amazing.
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  guess
• 9:43
  that
• 9:43
  really
• 9:43
  answers
• 9:44
  your
• 9:44
  question
• 9:44
  about
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  inspiration,
• 9:45
  too.
• 9:45
  Where
• 9:45
  it
• 9:46
  comes.
• 9:46
  Yes.