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Happy, Happy, Happy | a conversation with Alli Worthington · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: Hi friends, welcome back to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_01: And if you are new here, I'm so glad you joined us.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_01: Here at Simply Wholehearted, we are sharing our journey as we discover how to better love the Lord with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength.
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  SPEAKER_01: And even though you might be surrounded by a world of half-heartedness, we hope to inspire you to living wholeheartedly as our friends share their stories and simple ideas of how they practice reached over perfection in their everyday.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Besides getting to hear from today's guest, who happens to be one of our past favorites, I'm going to answer more of your Aneagram questions and share some meaningful minute inspiration.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: You'll want to stay tuned to hear after our conversation.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: When Allie joined us on the podcast last winter, she hinted at another book that might come out this year.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Allie is amazing, and sure enough, she just last week released her new book, A Year of Living Happy.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: When I first got wind of this, of course I was happy to join the launch team.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I was even more thrilled she was excited to give us another conversation beyond the pages.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: If you follow Allie, you know she's an Anneagram7 who can't help but share her excitement about life.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Plus, she shared some tips about how to organize all the details and what she's doing right now for SoulCare.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's so yeah, no, you sound great.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: You're awesome.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like how are you doing?
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Rockstar.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really tired.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you hanging in there?
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're just like this year, 2018 banner year.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: I I did I I two books in a year is intense.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: We'll put it that way.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's really intense.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, why?
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like what what happened that create I mean, because that's really unusual.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, how did it happen?
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: I guess.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: Fierce Faith was done in 20 early 2017.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, they're done a long time ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the year of Living Happy, I wrapped up last fall.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they weren't written, they weren't written in the same year.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sort of.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was done at the end of 2016 with Fierce Face.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's so then I did The Year of Living Happy the next year, but they just happened to come out in the same year.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which is crazy.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: It is crazy.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's kind of fun.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: So when okay, because I'm always I know the book process, I'm in the middle of it myself.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: It fascinates me because it's so different for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's such a process.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: A people process.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes for some of us.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, me.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so how did did you like propose both of them at the same time?
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: How did that end up happening?
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: I had a two-book deal with my publisher.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I knew going into writing Breaking Busy that I was going to write another book.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just didn't know what that book was at the time.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: But then when I finished Breaking Busy, the Lord gave me the word fear for the next book.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then after I finished Fierce Faith, he kept giving me the word happy, which I thought was ridiculous because I had been in such a dark state learning to overcome fear.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the publisher came to me and said, Have you considered doing a devotional?
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Yes, I'd love to do one on worry.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: And they said, We really would like it if you would do one on happiness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I called my agent and I said, I think my next book is on happiness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if I do a devotional, can I still do a book on happiness?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, Allie, this is a book.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is confirmation of what the Lord had been saying about happiness.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I went, Well, I guess that is confirmation.
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  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: An elaborate word study.
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  SPEAKER_01: So did you A Year of Happy is what it's called.
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  SPEAKER_01: So did you write it with the idea that someone would do a journey in a year?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or this was your experience of a year in happy?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: It was my experience.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: What I have been doing on my website is I created this free gift that people could could have via email.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was 52 weeks to a happier, healthier life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where I it wasn't coming from a Christian perspective, it was coming straight from research.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what did all the researchers say from studies that took 20 years and 50 years?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what actually made for a happier life?
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd send people, it's just a few sentences that they get in their email every Sunday afternoon, and the publisher had seen that and said, We think that there's something to it.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because so I had been spending a year studying it.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I knew everything that science said about happiness.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: And then I went went also went on this journey of going, well, what is what does the Lord say about happiness?
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because in our Christian culture right now, seeking happiness isn't a thing that is looked upon well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, talk about that because they're it we're supposed to be joyful.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Is happy the same thing?
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  SPEAKER_01: Does it go hand in hand?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it kind of makes me it's kind of a squirmy thing for whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is and it shouldn't be.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the original languages of most of the books of the Bible, Greek and Hebrew, there's a couple in Aramaic, but that's not really relevant to this topic.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in Greek and Hebrew, there is there was no differentiation between joy and happiness.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing in scripture that differentiates between joy and happiness.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, a lot of the original words that are translated now to blessed actually mean happy.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: But we have translated them to blessed.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, getting really nerdy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hundreds of years ago, when the King James translated Asher to blessed, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Blessed culturally at that time meant happy.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: But we now use blessed in a different way than happy.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: Totally different.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there like if you think about the Puritans, you don't think about the Puritans as especially happy people, but look at Puritan Christian writing, they talk about happiness all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like we would we would read the Puritan Christian writings and be like, what these people are not keep explaining.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't until about a hundred and twenty-ish years ago, Oswald Chambers, who I have great respect for, Oswald Chambers is the one who developed this initial concept that joy was holy and happiness was fleeting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it just caught on this idea, but all throughout Christian history, that had never been an acceptable idea.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: But he came up with it, it caught on to our popular culture, and we've carried it for the past hundred years.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: I and I think that it actually hurts our ability to spread the gospel when we say, Oh, happiness is of the world to people, but we're joyful.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, we don't look happy or joyful.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because God gave us the desire to be happy, and we are told hundreds of different times in scripture to be happy, rejoice, give thanks, be of good cheer, be happy.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: It just depends on which translation you're reading.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um God is completely invested in us finding our happiness in Him and us being happy in Him, because we can see all the things that the world says make us happy.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: Look at any celebrity, they get them and then they fall apart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, totally.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that if we as Christians, especially as Christian women, can embrace this concept that I like to call holy happiness, yeah, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can not only change our lives, but change our families and our communities and change the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we have to understand that God made us for this.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, what do you say to the woman who's like happiness is the furthest description from me, like right now, whatever season, or maybe they just wouldn't ever identify with that word.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Is that for them as well?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh there are certain seasons that we all go through where we definitely don't feel any joy or happiness whatsoever.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: I've gone through two different seasons of depression in my life, and if somebody had said, just make the decision to be happy, I would have wanted to kick them in the face.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: I totally get that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but I think that we think of happiness as this like crazy ecstatic feeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I define happiness as the quality of our relationships or our connectedness and our contentment.
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  SPEAKER_00: So no matter what's going on around us, we find peace and happiness through our relationships with the Lord and our relationships with the people that we love.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then as Paul wrote, you know, we learn to be content in anything that's happening to us.
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  SPEAKER_00: So no matter what's going on in the world, we can go, you know what, it's it's okay.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: The contentedness or the joy that surpasses the circumstances and the current understanding of what we can see in front of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And by waking up every day and going, I'm going to invest in connectedness with my God and my people, and contentedness, normally through gratitude and through just being mindful of everything that God's given us, we will become happier every day.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in your own struggle to do you write from that place of struggling to find it, what you've learned from those seasons?
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: Because, like you I think last time we talked, you said you were Enneagram 7.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: It seems like Enneagram 7s have an easier time being happy and joyful.
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  SPEAKER_01: They often bring it to others, but you experience some of those low points.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Do you feel like oh yeah?
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I am I think I am not naturally happy, even though I'm an Enneagram 7.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I'm naturally positive.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I will naturally go because I think if I was left to my own devices, I would be more naturally, I would naturally tend to being more depressed.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: And through the years, I have taught myself to now become naturally more positive and naturally happier.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because here's the thing: so much of our life, we think that we have to move hell and high water just to make changes in our life.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: But most of the changes in our lives come from the simplest like mindset shifts and changes in our behavior and changes of how we spend our time.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: That changes everything.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it can be something as simple as you know getting out and going on a walk three times a week because that boosts your endorphins and makes you feel better.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: It can be, you know, turning off the TV and spending time with people.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: It can be counting your blessings and and focusing in on what you're grateful for, just very simple things.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: And the things that we can control too, right?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: The things that we actually have the power to carry out, you know, in most circumstances, in spite of most circumstances.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: And there's fun little things that I learned in research that, okay, so we know money doesn't buy happiness.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: However, one thing that research proves is that if there's something we really hate to do, like the drudgery of work, whether it's weeding our flower beds or cleaning our house or, you know, whatever it is, if we have the ability financially to hire that out, I like to call it delegating the drudgery.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Science has shown that actually makes us much happier.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: And you are helping the economy, you are spreading the wealth and the joy along with it.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I tell parents, if you can't afford it, which I get, which we don't have we don't hire anybody to do like housekeeping.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have sons and they are just earning their keep.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and their future wives, thank you so much right now.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: They're doing the dishes, they're doing the laundry, they're mowing the lawn, and you know, that means you put the glass away and you buy like BPA-free glasses on Amazon real cheap.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: But it it does make mine and my husband's life much better to not be doing all the housework.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Totally does.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I I have this whole certification routine with my kids, and they all can do the laundry and you know, just some of those things that exactly that you, you know, dread our, you know, mounds up really quickly.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that they can do it actually brings them a lot of joy and satisfaction.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: I've come to find out.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: They actually are a little bit delighted that they can go start their own load of laundry instead of waiting for me to get around to it.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: There was a great article in the New York Times just a couple of months ago called Happier Children Do Chores.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: No kidding.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because there's something to be said for personal responsibility since you're growing up.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I yeah, we could talk about that all day long.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure you've personally experienced that.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: And with all those boys, you gotta get some help.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously, I couldn't do it on my own.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be grumpy every day.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: I used to be when they were little before they could help.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I will say it has brought a measure of happiness.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, kind of expand on that a little bit.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: I because a friend and I were talking about the that very specific quote, you know, money doesn't buy happiness.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, at 15 years into marriage, money looks different than when, you know, it did when we first started.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that we have some freedom with our finances, and we've both been very like we've done it the Dave Ramsey way, and you know, we've we've really walked in that financial piece, but along with that piece comes happiness because we're not worried about paying our bills, and it's not because we have so much more, but because there's margin there and we have more to give away.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: So talk more about that.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: Money doesn't buy happiness.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe there's some truth to that.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it definitely doesn't buy happiness, but it does take away the stress of wondering how you're gonna pay your bills, like you said.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and that is that is such a stressor for people.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and for us, it's important to realize that money is just a tool.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: And for having having enough to be okay is basically your set.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: So they've science has done all these studies saying that um about$75,000 a year will will help you, you know, make sure your bills are covered and you'll feel okay.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: But whether you make$75,000 or$750,000, you don't get any happier.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's fascinating.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because you just need enough to make sure you're okay.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: But even in excess, sometimes in excess of money or power or whatever it is, it will almost just bring out the worst in you.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: More stresses, maybe more delicate.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: And um especially you look at celebrities and people who get a lot of fame, like I mentioned before, they have everything in the world at their fingertips, and normally it's it's they self-destruct, you know, they can't stay married, they you know, get into problems with this or that, because it is so depressing for so many people to realize, oh, everything I thought would bring me happiness.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's it's why the the search for happiness and the desire for happiness, I believe it's God given.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think that there is a misbelief that at the fall we started seeking happiness.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: But seeking happiness is something God gave us.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: The fall just misdirected happiness to things of ourselves or things out in the world.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, but you know, by biting this fruit, you'll have the secret to everything, then you'll be happy.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: God's trying to keep happiness from you.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: But the desire to be happy is something that is God given, but we only find it when we seek Him and our life can align with Him because all of God's commands are a recipe for happiness.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: And in there we'll bring contentedness and peace and all the things that follow.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's really good.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: So in your book, I've only seen, gotten to read the first, you know, free seven chapters, pre-ordered your book.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I was excited.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: I you had talked about it when we last did the podcast, but I had no idea it would be like six months later.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, ah, because you also started a podcast and yeah, and a coaching business, which you had kind of going, but you you know, doing that full time.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: So you're doing a lot of stuff, and we'll go back to that.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: But um, did you kind of do you take people like on a journey?
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: What was kind of your idea as you, you know, wrote out and had, you know, have your friends read through the book and go on this journey with you of finding happiness?
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, instead of um a classic like trade book where I'm going through, you know, the beginning stories and then middle and then working up to it.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: This is we're not calling it a devotion because it's not a classic devotion, okay, but it's a it's a hundred entries that are super short, like you would have in a devotion with some journaling space and action steps.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so I have 12 different sections about 12 different aspects of happiness.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: So there's happiness, a lot of our happiness is based in our thought life.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a whole section on finding your happy thought, but then there's also a whole section on um when happiness is hard because you can't write a book on happiness without going.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes finding happiness is really hard when we're not feeling it, when we're struggling, what does it look like to strive for happiness?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: What does it look like to still invest in ourselves and go for it?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted each of those different sections to focus on a different aspect of happiness.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: And there's 12 sections.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: So say a group of women wanted to read it together over a whole year.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you read a section every month, but you can also read the whole thing in a hundred days.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: So it just depends on what works for for women's lives.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: But I wanted to make something short and quick because my goal with this was to take the truth of scripture plus all of the information that I learned from studying all the really boring research over the past year.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: But that makes you so much smarter now than the rest of us.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, originally I was gonna like I reference in footnotes the the research, and originally I was gonna put in some research, and the editors were like, that is so boring.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: You just share what you've learned, but we don't we don't need to know.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, yeah, the the back index is like, you know, three chapters worth of references.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's awesome.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, how is the podcast going?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Are you liking it?
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: How's that work?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: I love the podcast.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I never had any plan to do a podcast until I did the Fierce Faith Summit for the launch of Fierce Faith, which if anybody's listening, you can still watch that on my website.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I interviewed 18 friends about how they've overcome fear.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I was so personally blessed by it.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I cried on some of the interviews and learned so much.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, I'm totally doing a podcast because just selfishly.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the premise of the podcast is I invite on people.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: So far, it's everyone that I know.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I have rapport with them and I believe in them and love them and want to learn something from them.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I do that for the first 30 minutes, and then the second 30 minutes, I have coaching time so people can write in and ask me a question about life, faith, or business.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I answer some crazy questions like, can Christians drink?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: I've I had to do that one recently.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I didn't hear that one yet.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: It was really hard.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: And like I answer parenting questions or business questions, but I get some really tough ones.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's some question that I just answered the other day.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: It hasn't aired yet, and it was very, very hard.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, um, why why are Christians why do people say they love Jesus when there's such horrible people?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, okay, I gotta answer this one.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: So the podcast is just amazing.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad that I do it, but it is so much work.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: It probably takes a good eight to ten hours a week.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Plus, I edit mine myself.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Same here.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's just there's no way I could send it out and have somebody else know my heart for it and what I wanted.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: How about you?
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Is it so much work?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: It is, it's so much work.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think that's the thing that surprised me.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: And it still is.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm moving towards the direction of batching where I'm just interviewing like in one week, you know, and then trying to edit them all in one week.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm still figuring that out.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: And to, you know, because I'm trying to, and then, you know, try because I feel like some of that creativity um that I need for my for what I think I'm supposed to do is kind of stop and go if I'm doing a new podcast every week.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: And whether it's the conversation piece or the editing piece or the uploading and the copy and all the things, and so anyway, I love it and it's so worth it.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm I'm almost two years in.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I think it's like the one thing that I'm like, the Lord seems to solidify this, and I know I really love it, and I I think other people are, and it's kind of the same thing where selfishly there was just some great people I knew, and I wanted to help share their story, and not all of them had a book or you know performed worship music or anything like that.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: There were some were just really great stories that I felt burdened to share.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: So I have loved that part of it, and then of course getting to meet you and you know, continuing the conversation through email and you know, just and I personally listen to the business coaching side of stuff.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm you know, always like listening for that.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I know you've got a great coaching program that now you open that a couple times a year.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is that the case?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is it specifically for business, women in business?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it is.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what I do is I work with women long term.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't work with any contracts, but normally it's six months.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: But I've had clients that I've had for years.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's not a group program in terms of I I bring in a big group of people and then I talk to everybody.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: For me, it's all one-on-one.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: So that looks like helping people who are just starting a business grow it or women who own their own companies, be better leaders, executives, learn how to lead better.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, it's really just when I have space.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll make a mention about that you have a ton of space.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I love doing it.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so funny because my husband will my husband will sometimes tease me and go, You're because I I just took in a new client yesterday and he said, I didn't think you were taking on any clients.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I love her.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I love her business.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: And how can I not help?
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, yeah, it's it's fun.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really I I love that I have this career that lets half of it be ministry and half of it be business.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, because it's rare.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think we're the first generation of women really that have ever had the opportunity to make our own way.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Totally, totally.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Have you always been out of the state of the state?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: And to be women who well, I was, except for almost four years, I built and launched Propel with Chris Kane.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: So she came to Nashville, asked me to do it.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: I said no, that uh I'm not the kind of woman to have a job.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: And she told me again I was gonna do it, and I did it.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was great.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: But then after about three years, the Lord was telling me that my my time there was up and it was time to go back out on my own.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: That you know, and Propel's doing great.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it's fun to cheat on Propel from from afar.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: And to have those relationships.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know you know, you and Chris, like that's gotta be such a blessing.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: I know she's been instrumental to speak some of God's truth in your life, they're really strategic moments.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: So that's awesome.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so now you get to now.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: Did she approach you because she saw you do some other business building things that she was like, oh, I know that Allie's really?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: She just felt basically the Lord the Lord told her it was me.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: We we were both at an if gathering and we're randomly at the same restaurant in on a lunch break.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it was a table of maybe 20 people.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: I was just, I was there with my literary agent, and we we couldn't find anywhere to sit.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: So we just added it onto this big table.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: She was at one end of it at the head of it.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was on the other end, not where we could even speak to each other.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: And at the end of that lunch, she got up from the table, walked around the table, and looked at me and said, I think you're who I need to talk to about what I'm building next.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I, of course, as a consultant, said, Yes, I am.
• 24:45
  unknown: That's awesome.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so she took down my phone number and we started talking.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I had no idea that she had any plans to bring me on.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: I just was thought I was giving her advice.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then her and her husband came to Nashville to tell me that I needed to, you know, build it and run it.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, absolutely not.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: I have seen my disc profile.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: I would make a terrible employee.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but she was great.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: She said, you know, you and your husband have five sons.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: You've always run your own business.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: You have um you have a home office, you can just do everything from home.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like she she knew all my objections and she met him up front, and it was really fun.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: And the Lord's so funny.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: He in 2012, I used to run a large business conference, social media blogging business called Blistem.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: And in 2012, he told me very clearly to walk away from it, shut it down.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't allowed to sell it, I wasn't allowed to get any money from it.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: I was just walking away.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I walked away from that in 2013.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then in 2014 is when Chris approached me.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: And had I not obeyed the Lord when it didn't make sense.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: I would have never been able to say yes to Chris.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: And the the opportunity for me to be able to run propel with her was just so life-changing.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: Just the work it did personally in me that I'm so blessed by it.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it was just the Lord, the Lord knows what he's doing because he's God.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he does.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's so hard though sometimes because we the scarcity mindset or whatever fear, the things that we struggled with, it's hard to say no to good things because sometimes we don't know what the greater thing is that might come along and where our yes is really gonna matter.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean that's a classic story where you were faithful to say no and step away, and then the Lord brought something really great.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm afraid I'm one who hangs on way too long.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I hung on for a whole year.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: And he would send all different people to me to basically tell me the same thing.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like he he's not subtle.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, that is true.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: That is true.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I still go through that.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: There's still things that he challenges me to do, and I go, Oh, no, I'm not doing that.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, and I drag my feet and I say, Oh, I'll obey, but I'm all obey yet.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, I think I think being having a shaky bravery, as I like to call it, is is just my norm.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I may not ever change.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, people think just because I wrote a book on how to break out of busyness or overcome fear or how to live happy that I don't ever struggle with those things.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: I still struggle with it, but because I've done the hard work of developing the action plans and the battle plans for how to overcome it, I know how to get out of it.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I still get I still will get stuck in it all the time and go, oh, good thing I know how to get out, because this is just life.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're gonna be busy, we're gonna be afraid, we're not gonna feel happy.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: We have to fight for those things.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why we write it down too.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean that's the part I do have to like I I kind of in the same thing again recently talking with another friend, and we were talking about dealing with what seems like Christianity 101, like just some core issues, and we're like, how can we be the age we are and still deal this?
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: And this age we are in our faith, and and it's just you know, realizing that sometimes we're going around that mountain, going up a little bit higher, but that's also why we write down those moments and put those stakes in the ground so we could go back to that, okay.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: What did God teach us then?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's still true today.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: I just need to be reminded of it and go back to that word and don't let me forget.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: Don't let me forget.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: So for you, because you're probably the busiest that you have ever been, um, and you wrote about it.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: What is working for you right now when it comes to managing your time?
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: You've got the five boys, husband, all these different jobs.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: You're amazing.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: How are you doing it?
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: Give us some tips.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think one thing to remember in terms of life is everything happens in seasons.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: So and summer was very slow.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't traveling, I wasn't writing, I was just enjoying the family and coaching.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's all I was doing.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, now this season right now, fall, super, super intense.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: So probably the busiest I've ever been.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it will continue this way until middle of November.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I just know this is the season I'm in and it will end.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Middle of November and December is going to be very slow.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just I go into it knowing this is the season that I'm called to.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just going to manage it.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: But just about every 30-minute chunk of my day from 7.30 in the morning till maybe 4:30 in the afternoon is scheduled.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: Highly, highly scheduled.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then in the evenings, if it's not um, if there's not a practice or church, yeah, I was gonna say you're probably driving the boys everywhere, football and all the fossil.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: My husband does that.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: If my husband didn't do that, I'd be in big trouble.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, it's awesome.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: But but then um even Saturdays now.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: So totally Saturdays, I'm because I'm normally on a Friday night or Saturday, I am speaking somewhere.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I know it's just it's just busy season.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: Even on the airplane, my 30-minute chunks are scheduled because there's just a lot I'm getting done.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: So for you, it's really using every little minute well and scheduling everything.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I got a post from you recently, and I've heard about Evernote before.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a little resistant because I'm a paper and pen.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: I always have my like, you know, paper calendar.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me, convince me a little bit more about Evernote because I think there there might be some people that they're like, oh, that's the secret.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: That will help me figure out my life better.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I have an interesting system because I'm a paper and pen girl, but not for my calendar.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: So for my calendar, it's a G-Cal because it it syncs to everything.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I take all my notes, I write my books, I take my notes for my coaching clients.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's all paper.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: So every like I have a giant three-ring binder with tabs like my kids have for different classes with people's names on it.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: And that's how that's how I keep up with all my clients.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: So if I'm on the phone with a client, I'm just writing notes.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's a great idea.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so because they're they're my work, you know, like the kids have the three-ring binder for school, I have my client binder.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: If my house burned down, I would grab that video and my client binder.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but Evernote is great because Evernote essentially is a second brain.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: Anything we want to keep, we keep in Evernote.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's a there's a thing called the Evernote Web Clipper.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're reading an article, you can just clip the web clipper, it'll take off all the junk on the page, save the article for you so you can keep it as research.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I do all my documents go in Evernote.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that I'm reading, and I want to study book ideas, go in Evernote.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: And the great on Sunday mornings, I use my Evernote app and I open up a new document, turn on the microphone.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: So the sermon is recorded in the document, and I take notes on the document.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I have sermon notes for years and years and years.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's brilliant.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: Anything and everything.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: I have a post on my website all about Evernote.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: And if you just search like Ali Worthington, comma, Evernote, it'll take you through how to use it to completely organize and transform your life.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yep, that tab is actually open on my browser and I keep it.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna love it.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna love it.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta do, I think I gotta do this because I what you said is I need a second brain, and my post it notes everywhere aren't cutting it.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: So a time to move on.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: And because I do write things down, this is what's really impressive.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: I write things down on a piece of paper.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: If I take a picture and then put it in Evernote, Evernote can still search my handwriting.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: So say I wrote your name down on a piece of paper, took a picture of it, and just put it in, you know, just with the app, put it in Evernote, and then I typed your name in a search bar, it would find it.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, that is so cool.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: I know that may have been the final push.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: I need to have it.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: I can do that because I still, yeah, I don't know what it is.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: The whole hand to pin to paper connection.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: I still will always do it, I think.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because I'm super nerdy, I know research, and research shows that we learn better when we write, that we take in information and we remember information better if we write it than when we type it.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Which I think will have great implications for our kids doing everything on computers right now.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think in five or ten years, the research will show that they're better off staying away from electronics as long as possible.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it'll be interesting to see how that shakes out.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll be definitely sharing that piece of information.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: I believe it, uh, hands down for sure, because that's what I remember.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, in line of the whole being busy, you know, those are some of the techniques you use.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: How about for you, for your soul care?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Do you even find space for that in this really busy time, or do you just go come middle of November, Thanksgiving, I can give some more time to myself?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: What does that look like?
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, lots of little pockets.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: For me, I'm a big worshiper.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I make time not only to pray and be in scripture every day, but to worship.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Even if it's as little as putting on my earbuds and while I'm doing laundry, listen to work worship music.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: I have this playlist on Spotify called Worship for Fierce Faith.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: And there's like 160 songs.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I was just on it this morning and there's like 1800 followers.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Where I just think 1800 people are worshiping and it's amazing.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm in the middle of just, you know, putting in a load of laundry and a song comes on, and the Lord will speak to me through it and just wreck me.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: And that's for me, that's the best thing for my soul.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, also, I have really bad scoliosis.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: So if I can sneak away, yeah, it's so it just means my back hurts all the time.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: So if I can sneak away and get a massage, oh yeah, that's great self-care.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: But also, if you ever see me in any airport, I'm in a massage chair.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a good thing.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I have like a$20 massage pillow that you lean on and it massages your back.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: So like last night I watched This Is Us and sat with a massage pillow and felt like a new woman.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: So just a little thing.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you can't, this one's kind of big and you have to plug it in.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and it has like these two balls that you know she has to roll over.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I use it on the couch every night and it's amazing.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's such a great idea.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: And you always love talking about the movies you watch.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: Does is that for you like a good soul care?
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, it's me watching movies started because my second oldest son, who's now 17, Jack, if we have the hashtag on Instagram, Jack, our Ally and Jack movie reviews.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's he was kind of a mean kid.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: And he'll even talk about it now.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm so sorry, I was so mean to you all those years.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: He was just mean.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: I got one of those.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I just I remember thinking we're never gonna have a relationship.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever I do, he's so mean.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: When he was about 11 or 12, because he loved movies, uh-huh.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: I started watching movies with him.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was something we could connect on, and of course, and now we're best friends.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: And he's just like, I'm so sorry I was ever that we just needed a connection point.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something that he could through that connection point, I fell in love with movies.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's and movies are our thing, but I love them on my own now.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like he was away last weekend and I'm texting him, like, I'm gonna watch this.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Is it good?
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: What should I watch?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Getting his input.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: But um, I'm not a big TV person except for This Is Us.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love that one.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's the only show I watch.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, give me movies all day long.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: I love and I'll watch them at home, but there's something about getting away from life and going to a movie theater.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: And Jack has popcorn.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: I sneak in snacks in my purse.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Healthy ones, of course.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Some Kelsey snacks.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, vegan snack my vegan bites from uh Publix.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: But there's something about just the lights going down and losing yourself in a movie.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's so fun.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I I think that's my thing.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: If we're watching it at home, then I'm working.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not quite the same as just uh yeah, because I I think for me, I fall asleep if I'm sitting on the couch watching a movie, so it has to be this experience that I do for sure.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I get on my phone and then I realize I haven't watched the movie at all because I'm answering email.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah, exactly.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Doing all the different stuff and and then we also don't connect.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: Then the people with us, I mean the kids definitely make it known that they're like, but you didn't experience it with us, and they do, they they see that so funny.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: I try to h I try to be subtle and hide my phone.
• 37:49
  unknown: Right.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's down next to my leg and I'm just casually looking.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: They know they do, they totally know when we're disengaged.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's for sure.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Allie, thank you.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for another conversation.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm so excited to get your new book in my hands, and I know that so many people are gonna be blessed and encouraged, and even I think just the it's thought-provoking to go to challenge our happiness mindset and how we how we see that as Christians, and I think it's gonna have a great reach.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: So, way to go.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm honored to be back on the show.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, you're amazing.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: Have an awesome day.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: You too.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't she just great?
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: She is the real deal.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: And what little I know behind the scenes, I do see consistency of character in all that she does.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you aren't are already And if you aren't already following Allie on the socials, you'll want to fix that right now.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, you can get her newest book, A Year of Living Happy, at all the places books are sold.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: And you might want to add her weekly podcast to your listening rotation.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: This week's Meaningful Minutes are about living a little more happy.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, that was easy, right?
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: We will focus on building our spirit by giving ourselves five minutes to think about or asking those close by us, what makes you happier?
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: Now, we can't all go to our favorite destination every day.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: But what are a few things you do right now, or would like to do more often, which make you genuinely happy?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think you'll be surprised by how it's the simple things which bring a lot more happiness than you've maybe thought about before.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, next one.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever started a gratitude journal?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know, we've heard about this forever.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: But for building our mind and helping ourselves live a little more happy, maybe you should at least think about getting that gratitude journal finally started.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: Or maybe a journal feels too formal and daunting.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: How about creating a notes list on your phone?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: You can write and voice text a memo of gratefulness whenever it pops in your mind.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: If you've had a more difficult time thinking about what makes you happy, I bet this practice might help you discover a few things in your everyday.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: The power of practicing gratefulness can radically shift our mindset and bring a little more happy into your day.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_01: For Body, we're gonna talk about habits.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Now I just finished reading a fascinating book by Gretchen Rubin and the Power of Habits.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'll put a look in the show notes if you're curious to know more.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: Now, we all have strong feelings about habits, and we each have unique reasons for maintaining them or quitting them.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, I'm sure I'm gonna try to figure out sometime to relate this to the anneagram, but we all have habits.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Some with positive consequences and some with negative.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: So, what is one habit you would like to begin, or what is one habit you would like to quit?
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: The key is making small changes.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: So today, choose one thing you'd like to begin or end, and give yourself 30 days to work on that habit.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: A helpful idea I learned to kick or begin habits are to pair it with another activity or replace it with something beneficial.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: So, if it's exercise you want to do more, treat yourself with getting to watch a show or listen to your favorite podcast while you work out, and only enjoy the activity, that specific one you chose while you work out.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if it's quitting something, maybe something that costs money or time, use the resource you would have normally spent on the habit that you are now gonna kick and use it to get yourself something or do something for yourself with the resource you saved.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: Are you starting to get what I'm saying?
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think your options are unlimited, and it could be pretty exciting when you start that new habit or kick that bad one.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'd love to know if you try any one of these and what you thought of the process.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: Tag us on Instagram or Facebook or jot us a note.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: We always love hearing from you.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: Now we're gonna answer one of your Anneagram coaching questions.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: You can still submit your questions and ideas through our link in the show notes, or just reach out to simply wholehearted or me, Amy Wicks, on the socials.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Today's question is, what are some of your favorite Anneagram resources?
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there are so many out there, it's hard to know where to begin.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: But if you enjoy the process of learning about this incredibly insightful tool, I'd love to share my list with you.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because when I'm listening to your podcast, I'm always doing something else and not just sitting around with a pen and paper.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: I thought I'd create a download for you and have it sent to your inbox and have it handy for ordering books off Amazon or at your local library when you have a few minutes to look at some of the websites.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, the key to understanding the Aneagram is story, hearing about the traits, asking yourself honest questions, and relating your responses within the framework of research already done for you.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: A test can help you narrow down your numbers, but as you read, I think you'll begin to determine pretty quickly what you might be and what you are not.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: And a quick tip.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: If you think you are all the numbers, look a little closer at the information on the nines and the sixes.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: And if you think there's no way the Enneagram can box you in, look closely at the information on fours and eights.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: And one more tip, most Christian women read the two on the Enneagram and closely identify and even test as a two.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of reasons for this that I won't expand on today, but my recommendation is don't bank on that result.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: Give yourself more time to explore the other numbers.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: And if you took a test, look closely at the other numbers you may have scored high in.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: Next week, I'll be back with your coaching questions about the Enneagram.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: So keep those great questions coming.
• 43:56
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• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: You can share conversations, meaningful minutes, and helpful resources to all your friends and family.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: We love it when you share.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: So until next week, join us on the socials as we continue our journey to living simply, wholehearted.