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- 0:07Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
- 0:08Speaker 2: You can see your breath.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Out in the lake effect, breaking tables like guitartry, Where's
- 0:19Speaker 3: would you have to be?
- 0:21Speaker 2: And to Ron Elvis in the ley Panche the members.
- 0:26Speaker 3: That you need to know.
- 0:28Speaker 2: I sut you out here now, your family?
- 0:32Speaker 1: Where's would you have be?
- 0:37Speaker 2: Where's would you have be? Welcome into the Nicol City Crew.
- 0:42Speaker 2: I am your host, Rob Crippen.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Please like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram
- 0:47Speaker 3: and Twitter at Nickel City Crew. This episode, along with
- 0:50Speaker 3: all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen Legacy Entertainment
- 0:53Speaker 3: here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so glad that
- 0:56Speaker 3: you're joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills and
- 0:58Speaker 3: NFL content again today, and as always, these are my
- 1:02Speaker 3: Bill's thoughts set out loud.
- 1:06Speaker 2: I'm so ridiculous. Eighty three was six the show I
- 1:13Speaker 2: can let us? Where's would you like to be? All right,
- 1:20Speaker 2: let's get straight to it.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Really really excited for tonight's episode, the season five premiere
- 1:27Speaker 3: episode for Nichol City Crew.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Here.
- 1:30Speaker 3: It's really crazy because I just I feel so blessed,
- 1:33Speaker 3: because I mean I started this thing literally five seasons ago,
- 1:37Speaker 3: right before Perfection in the park. I was by myself
- 1:39Speaker 3: and I did some reflecting last night, and I was
- 1:42Speaker 3: listening to old episodes and I was like, when did
- 1:43Speaker 3: DT join us? And it was season two episode two.
- 1:46Speaker 3: He became like my co host. I am so excited
- 1:50Speaker 3: for season five. I could not be doing this without
- 1:52Speaker 3: him joining me for the season five premiere episode as
- 1:56Speaker 3: always my co host writing shotgun Adam dump truck Reps.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Check him out on Instagram and Twitter at Adam Rupsick.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Are you c is z y K holla at the crew?
- 2:06Speaker 2: DT? What's good? What's good?
- 2:11Speaker 1: Baby? What's up up? Nickel City?
- 2:14Speaker 4: Happy Friday, Rod Taylor, Happy Trent Edwards five.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it.
- 2:22Speaker 1: This is it's it's flowing by. We've we've come.
- 2:26Speaker 4: So you know, we always joke about listening to those
- 2:29Speaker 4: first episodes and and I'll listen to this and here
- 2:32Speaker 4: we are, baby, Season five about to take off in
- 2:35Speaker 4: the prime of seventeen, in our super Bowl era. We
- 2:38Speaker 4: will have a prayed during Nickel City Crew. We will
- 2:41Speaker 4: have a prayed during Nickel City Crew. And it's a
- 2:43Speaker 4: pleasure to be background. I love you, man, and happy
- 2:46Speaker 4: to be back. Mischief, miss your face dude, how you doing?
- 2:49Speaker 2: How you doing? Oh?
- 2:50Speaker 3: Man, I can't complain. God is good, man. I can't complain.
- 2:53Speaker 3: The little one, uh is getting really big. You already
- 2:55Speaker 3: know princess Ivey's in the building. She will be six
- 2:58Speaker 3: months next week, and it's like, what in the ham
- 3:01Speaker 3: Sandwing's going on? I felt like I just brought her
- 3:03Speaker 3: home from the hospital. So it's been going crazy. Man,
- 3:06Speaker 3: new job going really well. So things are going well
- 3:08Speaker 3: for me. Man, So I cannot complain. As I said,
- 3:11Speaker 3: God is good man. I just want to give a
- 3:12Speaker 3: couple of shout outs before we get started for season five,
- 3:15Speaker 3: because instead of doing at the end of the show,
- 3:17Speaker 3: I just wanted to do at the beginning and just
- 3:19Speaker 3: give honor words due Listen, big, big time shout out
- 3:22Speaker 3: to our creative director Olivia Nageles. She makes us look
- 3:26Speaker 3: so good. She gave literally gave me chills. The other
- 3:29Speaker 3: day when she did our promo. I said, listen, Olivia,
- 3:32Speaker 3: remind everybody that season five start. We're coming back on Friday,
- 3:35Speaker 3: TGIF and I was like, maybe a little bit of mace,
- 3:37Speaker 3: a little bit of welcome back action, and she just,
- 3:40Speaker 3: I mean, she knocked it out of the Parker home
- 3:42Speaker 3: run like she always does.
- 3:43Speaker 2: So shout out to Olivia Nagels.
- 3:44Speaker 3: She really makes us look great and we really appreciate
- 3:47Speaker 3: her support and her help making us look good because,
- 3:49Speaker 3: as you guys know, nicol City Crew, I have no
- 3:52Speaker 3: FN clue what I'm doing on social media, so I
- 3:54Speaker 3: really appreciate her, and also shout out Queen City Vintage.
- 3:58Speaker 3: They will be our sponsor again once the games start
- 4:00Speaker 3: this September, so we really appreciate Nick and his crew
- 4:03Speaker 3: over there again. Check them out Queen City Vintage on
- 4:06Speaker 3: em would ab across from forty Thieves.
- 4:08Speaker 2: I think that I just saw on Instagram a couple of.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Weeks ago they had like a big party or something
- 4:12Speaker 3: like that, and people were just flowing in out of store.
- 4:14Speaker 3: There was a line around the corner and that was
- 4:16Speaker 3: really cool. So we reappreciate their support again. They'll be
- 4:19Speaker 3: coming back season five. They'll be our sponsor when the
- 4:21Speaker 3: games start. We'll be doing giveaways each and every week.
- 4:24Speaker 3: You guys already know the drill there.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Just hashtag or.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Whatever whatever Olivia tells y'all to do on nicol City Crew,
- 4:31Speaker 3: y'all do it. Join the giveaways and we will be
- 4:33Speaker 3: giving out some cool stuff this season, DT, we ready
- 4:37Speaker 3: to go.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Man.
- 4:37Speaker 3: Listen, It's funny because the draft is coming up right
- 4:40Speaker 3: around the corner.
- 4:40Speaker 2: So now we got our shout outs out of the way.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Season five is under the way for a Nickel City crew,
- 4:45Speaker 3: and you know, the draft is so close that I
- 4:48Speaker 3: was like, well, it's time for us to get back, DT,
- 4:49Speaker 3: it's time for us to get back. And I know
- 4:51Speaker 3: I called you a couple of weeks ago. I wanted
- 4:53Speaker 3: to just kind of go through it, just kick back
- 4:56Speaker 3: a nice little chill episode. We don't have to do
- 4:58Speaker 3: a long one tonight and just kind of go through
- 5:00Speaker 3: a Brandon Bean is done. Obviously, Season four ended for
- 5:04Speaker 3: a Nickel City crew with you know, just the way
- 5:06Speaker 3: that it was.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Man.
- 5:07Speaker 3: I listened to them so the other day DT and
- 5:09Speaker 3: Little Brother and it was like, man, that same familiar feeling.
- 5:12Speaker 3: But it's something about the new season DT that always
- 5:15Speaker 3: just brings back a little bit of just renewal, a
- 5:17Speaker 3: little bit of juice to start flowing and you get
- 5:19Speaker 3: that optimism again.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Man. It's it's hard to do it. It's hard to
- 5:23Speaker 2: ignore it, man.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they we go through the way the
- 5:28Speaker 4: season ended to you know it was football. I was
- 5:31Speaker 4: good to chill on football for a little bit, and
- 5:33Speaker 4: I had to watch the Super Bowl. A lot of
- 5:35Speaker 4: people are saying they were boycotting it or whatever. The
- 5:37Speaker 4: days you got to watch the ball Kendrick, see the
- 5:41Speaker 4: commercials from and we.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Got to see the Chiefs get their ass kicks. So
- 5:45Speaker 1: we'll take that. But then after that, I was I
- 5:47Speaker 1: was very cool to just kind of chill with ball
- 5:49Speaker 1: for a while.
- 5:51Speaker 4: But it doesn't take long that free agency. It's the
- 5:53Speaker 4: NFL knows what they're doing. Rob they know what they're doing.
- 5:55Speaker 4: The entertainment business the best in the world.
- 5:58Speaker 1: They know how they know how to get you hooked.
- 6:00Speaker 4: They know not to give you too much and just
- 6:02Speaker 4: give you a little bit when you're when you're craving them,
- 6:05Speaker 4: and they do. I found myself watching that bullshit UFL
- 6:08Speaker 4: last week.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Just to see some pads clank.
- 6:12Speaker 4: You know, they get going. But it'll be here before
- 6:16Speaker 4: we know it. Training camp will start rattling off, will
- 6:19Speaker 4: start counting down the weeks. We'll do our the schedule
- 6:22Speaker 4: be out a few weeks after after the draft, and
- 6:25Speaker 4: you know it'll it'll be week one when we'll be
- 6:27Speaker 4: out at the at the Club dub we're calling it
- 6:30Speaker 4: now at the at the tailgate club Crew, and they
- 6:34Speaker 4: get after it for another season and another another journey,
- 6:37Speaker 4: the last one in the route.
- 6:38Speaker 1: So I'm pumped up.
- 6:40Speaker 4: Uh, we got to contain it because we still got
- 6:42Speaker 4: a hell of a long way. But then if I
- 6:45Speaker 4: knows what they're doing, I had just enough break. Now
- 6:47Speaker 4: I'm ready to get hyped. Get back in it. Nickel
- 6:50Speaker 4: City Crew, We're ready for you, baby.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Let's go. Yeah, I'm really excited as well. DT. You
- 6:54Speaker 2: absolutely right.
- 6:54Speaker 3: And it's funny because when you look at it and
- 6:56Speaker 3: you kind of look, this is the other part of
- 6:59Speaker 3: the job, the team building. And it's funny because when
- 7:01Speaker 3: I was growing up, I used to love that kind
- 7:03Speaker 3: of part, you know, throwing NBA Live that's you know,
- 7:06Speaker 3: that's the equivalent to NBA two K for you young
- 7:08Speaker 3: is out there. NBA Live was the video game, was
- 7:10Speaker 3: the premiere one, and then you'd go and I'd build
- 7:12Speaker 3: in my rosters and making sure all my teams were straightened,
- 7:15Speaker 3: different things like that.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Then you had the college football and stuff like that.
- 7:17Speaker 3: So I have a definite appreciation for Brandon, meaning his
- 7:21Speaker 3: job and what he has to do and respects to
- 7:22Speaker 3: team building, and it can be harder in some cases
- 7:26Speaker 3: than other years.
- 7:26Speaker 2: But DT, there's not too much there's not too many
- 7:29Speaker 2: holes to fill it.
- 7:30Speaker 3: I know that we'll do our draft preview episode next week,
- 7:33Speaker 3: but there's not a lot of issues and areas to address.
- 7:37Speaker 3: One of the things that we definitely want to see,
- 7:39Speaker 3: and we know that we talked about it at the
- 7:41Speaker 3: end of season four was that we need some more
- 7:42Speaker 3: blue chip talent. So I don't know really what Brandon
- 7:45Speaker 3: is going to do to address that. The draft is
- 7:47Speaker 3: sometimes harder when you're drafting as low as the Bills are,
- 7:49Speaker 3: but we'll talk about that more next week.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Things that Brandon has done this year DT, and just
- 7:54Speaker 3: go through it real quick and kind of comb through it.
- 7:57Speaker 3: They start off free agency, the Bills do DT, Nicol
- 8:00Speaker 3: City Crew, Bill's Mafia signing Joshua Palmer josh Palmer from
- 8:04Speaker 3: the LA Chargers, and.
- 8:06Speaker 2: I watched some of his tape DT.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Yeah five, look at that season five, Look at that
- 8:11Speaker 3: everything works together. I've watched some of his tape DT,
- 8:14Speaker 3: and this is a Canadian kid, I guess right over
- 8:16Speaker 3: the border, and you know, I don't know.
- 8:18Speaker 2: Some people were kind of down on him and not.
- 8:20Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't think that he's getting
- 8:22Speaker 3: ready to come in and be a young Amari Cooper
- 8:25Speaker 3: or anything like that.
- 8:25Speaker 2: But I like the signing.
- 8:27Speaker 3: I thought that this was a guy that was a
- 8:28Speaker 3: little bit underutilized obviously with Harbaugh coming in last year
- 8:31Speaker 3: to the Chargers. He's a run heavy guy, just like
- 8:33Speaker 3: he was at Michigan and San Francisco. I like the
- 8:36Speaker 3: kid man like, I don't have any problem with it.
- 8:38Speaker 3: I don't have any problem with it.
- 8:40Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what they kind of thought about
- 8:42Speaker 4: thirteen and Matt Collins and if they thought.
- 8:45Speaker 2: You know, he was kind of thought. I think they thought.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Trying to get him back. I don't know if you
- 8:48Speaker 4: know this situation. I don't know if this had anything
- 8:50Speaker 4: to do with that future thought. But yeah, you know,
- 8:53Speaker 4: it's not a bad signing at all. I'm not knocking like, yeah,
- 8:59Speaker 4: you know, Justinerent or something like that. But we're gonna
- 9:02Speaker 4: be We're gonna be glass half full and a guy
- 9:05Speaker 4: with a kind of a chains of scenery what I like.
- 9:07Speaker 4: It's a multi year deal, you know, being being usually
- 9:10Speaker 4: a one year deal. If it's kind of wishy washy
- 9:13Speaker 4: and whatnot. He goes multiple year deal on this Now
- 9:16Speaker 4: Devil's advocate will argue Curtis Samuel last year on a
- 9:20Speaker 4: multiple year deal, But we'll get there. I think this
- 9:23Speaker 4: offseason of I'm not writing off one yet in Curtis Samuel.
- 9:26Speaker 4: I think the injuries and stuff had a lot to
- 9:28Speaker 4: do with it.
- 9:28Speaker 1: In the NFL.
- 9:30Speaker 4: The NFL isn't a isn't a game, you know, it's
- 9:32Speaker 4: so talented nowadays, it's not a game where you can
- 9:35Speaker 4: just roll up and jump in. You need weeks and
- 9:38Speaker 4: weeks of practice.
- 9:39Speaker 1: You need.
- 9:39Speaker 4: We've seen all pros and all stars not being a
- 9:43Speaker 4: familiar situation, not be able to get on the field.
- 9:46Speaker 4: So it takes a long time to get acclimated. So
- 9:48Speaker 4: I'm still I'm not writing off Curtis Samuel, but this
- 9:51Speaker 4: is a kind of similar vibe. He's a similar not
- 9:53Speaker 4: a similar player, but a similar in the hierarchy of
- 9:56Speaker 4: wide receivers.
- 9:57Speaker 1: I think coming over as some.
- 9:59Speaker 4: Potential have a lot of craziness, but the floor is
- 10:02Speaker 4: also not very low either, you know, so it's a
- 10:04Speaker 4: safe signing. I think, you know his what do they
- 10:08Speaker 4: say he's he gets open. Right, he gets separation. And
- 10:11Speaker 4: what if we here all last year, Rob, we'd have
- 10:13Speaker 4: no separation. We got no separation, So all right, now
- 10:17Speaker 4: we got a little separation. We'll see what happens. Seventeen's
- 10:20Speaker 4: gonna find you if he wants to. He just got
- 10:22Speaker 4: to catch the ball. And you know, I think i'd
- 10:24Speaker 4: like he's no little boy, he's a he's he's got
- 10:26Speaker 4: some got some meat on him. He can get up
- 10:29Speaker 4: and go a little bit. Get that separation going. Not
- 10:31Speaker 4: moving the needle one hundred percent for me. But I
- 10:34Speaker 4: definitely don't have any issues with the signing and Brandon
- 10:36Speaker 4: Bean putting a multi year deal on it means he
- 10:39Speaker 4: sees some sort of framework and some sort of this
- 10:41Speaker 4: dude isn't coming here to sit the bench. He's coming
- 10:43Speaker 4: here to get minutes and you know, and be fill
- 10:46Speaker 4: that void of eighteen and thirteen. I still think we
- 10:49Speaker 4: still need to get another wide receiver, and we'll get
- 10:51Speaker 4: into that obviously through the draft and offseason whatever. But
- 10:55Speaker 4: he fills whatever role that was. I think, younger, clean,
- 11:00Speaker 4: and a lot of potential.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Coming out of it. Yeah, I agree with you. I
- 11:04Speaker 2: liked his tape.
- 11:04Speaker 3: I like some of the stuff that I saw from
- 11:06Speaker 3: him and exactly what you were talking about going up
- 11:07Speaker 3: and to getting the ball contested catches creating separation.
- 11:11Speaker 2: He was definitely heralded for that, So I do like it.
- 11:14Speaker 3: It's funny because DT when you know when the next
- 11:17Speaker 3: signings were happening, and I'm going in chronological order. It
- 11:20Speaker 3: was funny because you know, Michael Hoyt gets signed by
- 11:23Speaker 3: the Bills to another three year deal by Bean and
- 11:25Speaker 3: then I put it in the notes. I was like, well,
- 11:27Speaker 3: it's Maguire and Sosa after we find out the issue
- 11:31Speaker 3: with Ogunjobi. It's funny because listen, listen, here's what I'll
- 11:35Speaker 3: say about it. And it's funny because it for Bill's
- 11:37Speaker 3: mafia that doesn't know. I don't know if if you're
- 11:40Speaker 3: living under a rock or not, but even if you
- 11:41Speaker 3: haven't been paying too much of attention to the offseason,
- 11:44Speaker 3: the Bills signed Michael Hoyt. He was a defensive end linebacker,
- 11:48Speaker 3: a little like a harbrid guy from the where.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Was he from? He played for the Rams.
- 11:54Speaker 3: He's playing for the Rams and and he's got a
- 11:57Speaker 3: lot of positional versatility. And then a couple of days
- 12:00Speaker 3: later they signed Larry Ogajobe and then we find out
- 12:02Speaker 3: at the signing day that you know, Larry had had
- 12:05Speaker 3: a little bit of an issue. And it is funny
- 12:07Speaker 3: because Brandon Bean is a smooth mother. I mean, he
- 12:10Speaker 3: is a smooth criminal, and he kind of slips it
- 12:12Speaker 3: in there and he's like, oh, why we're talking about
- 12:14Speaker 3: these guys?
- 12:14Speaker 2: Uh, real quick, They're.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Gonna be suspended for the first six games, and you know,
- 12:17Speaker 3: everybody's like, you know, what the heck is a Friday,
- 12:19Speaker 3: and everybody was joking that it was a media dump
- 12:21Speaker 3: and he was trying to sneak it through.
- 12:23Speaker 2: But they will be suspended for peds.
- 12:26Speaker 3: It's funny because I think that Larry Ogunjobe is a
- 12:31Speaker 3: it's a it's a state of how the.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Bills really run their program.
- 12:33Speaker 3: And I think that that kind of states and it
- 12:35Speaker 3: shows how far we have come from the drought.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Bills.
- 12:38Speaker 3: They're a well run organization, are highly respected and I
- 12:41Speaker 3: think that you know, Ogajobe's representatives just worked out a
- 12:44Speaker 3: deal and then we're upfront about it after they got
- 12:47Speaker 3: ready to go ahead and sign the paper and agree
- 12:48Speaker 3: to the framework.
- 12:49Speaker 2: And by that time, Brandon doesn't want to look like
- 12:51Speaker 2: an ass.
- 12:51Speaker 3: He doesn't want to look like a bad guy by
- 12:53Speaker 3: just saying, Okay, well we're just gonna cut up the contract.
- 12:55Speaker 3: And he kind of just fulfills his promise because this guy,
- 12:58Speaker 3: as he stated, had never been in any trouble before.
- 13:00Speaker 3: And Nokajobi's down here in Charlotte where I'm where I'm
- 13:02Speaker 3: living DT. He played at the University of Charlotte. So listen,
- 13:06Speaker 3: I think that it just it actually speaks positive for
- 13:08Speaker 3: the Bills that he didn't Brandon Bean, didn't huff him puff,
- 13:11Speaker 3: he didn't make the Bills look bad or anything like that.
- 13:13Speaker 3: They had agreed to something and then he follows through
- 13:16Speaker 3: on it, you know, after you know, the guy was upfront.
- 13:18Speaker 3: So hey, the bashed brothers ay, you know, you gotta
- 13:21Speaker 3: you gotta deal with it.
- 13:23Speaker 4: Well, and it was like fifty to fifty, right they
- 13:25Speaker 4: Hoyt seemed a little more like.
- 13:27Speaker 3: We told them. Toy told them ahead of time. Then
- 13:29Speaker 3: then Larry told them, you know, after he was coming
- 13:31Speaker 3: in the.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Summer and both you know, just just fillers.
- 13:35Speaker 4: We if there's holes on this roster, it is defensive line, obviously,
- 13:38Speaker 4: defensive backfield, whatever, but you know, we gotta we gotta
- 13:42Speaker 4: start filling them. We had some people out. We got
- 13:44Speaker 4: to fill those roles. And who knows, there's the rotational
- 13:47Speaker 4: based on this defensive line.
- 13:48Speaker 1: We need bodies.
- 13:50Speaker 4: I like the opportunity for both these guys coming in.
- 13:52Speaker 4: I mean Hoyt coming in literally has played defensive end,
- 13:56Speaker 4: defensive tackle, linebacker, slock corners.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird. I saw a couple of highlights. Yeah,
- 14:02Speaker 2: it's great.
- 14:03Speaker 4: He's been on game day rosters at two hundred and
- 14:06Speaker 4: thirty pounds and he has been on game day rosters
- 14:08Speaker 4: at three hundred and ten pounds. Yes, that is like, man,
- 14:11Speaker 4: I need to get I need to get down to
- 14:13Speaker 4: the plane. The ind of the two is to the
- 14:15Speaker 4: playing way and then back up, back up to my
- 14:18Speaker 4: defensive tackle, wait for the.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Winner to hibernate.
- 14:20Speaker 4: But that's you know that, So that the versatility, and
- 14:23Speaker 4: that's kind of what the Bills liked, you know, kind
- 14:25Speaker 4: of all over the field. And we see guys like
- 14:27Speaker 4: Greg Russou going and playing the interior sometimes of that
- 14:30Speaker 4: defensive line, and I think that's what this white guy's
- 14:32Speaker 4: going to be about. Okay, oh why okay, job job.
- 14:36Speaker 4: It just takes that that Rick Ross on box Chevy I'm.
- 14:40Speaker 1: I'm made millions with that show. So he's he's a
- 14:47Speaker 1: big boy.
- 14:48Speaker 4: Put some good minutes in for the Steelers, you know,
- 14:51Speaker 4: just just bil guys. I would love for them not
- 14:53Speaker 4: to be suspended for six games, you know, because this
- 14:56Speaker 4: is what I'm nervous about, is what how does train.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Camp and stuff look for this type of situation.
- 15:02Speaker 2: You know, they goes, they're allowed to practice, but that's
- 15:05Speaker 2: you know, that's.
- 15:06Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
- 15:07Speaker 4: So this isn't going to be a defense where there's
- 15:09Speaker 4: some core guys that are going to be the starters,
- 15:11Speaker 4: but there's gonna be a lot of competition. And we
- 15:13Speaker 4: talked about it a little last year on competition and
- 15:16Speaker 4: kind to roll the ball out. The dogs will stand up,
- 15:18Speaker 4: the dogs will make this team. The dogs will play.
- 15:21Speaker 1: And you go into, uh, you know, a training camp
- 15:25Speaker 1: and these guys come in and what if they they're
- 15:26Speaker 1: good and they start fitting in and they start producing,
- 15:29Speaker 1: and then you kind of got to pull them off
- 15:30Speaker 1: for the first six weeks. And that's what I'm a
- 15:32Speaker 1: little afraid of, you know, that that kind of ramp
- 15:35Speaker 1: up and then it's like, damn, it was a good signing.
- 15:37Speaker 4: These dudes are legit and then they can't play right,
- 15:40Speaker 4: So then that's a little concerning to see. But we
- 15:43Speaker 4: need the bodies, we need, we need the numbers, and
- 15:45Speaker 4: they're still appealing, right, So this isn't confirmed that they're
- 15:48Speaker 4: they're missing out on six.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I know Ogunjobi is not appealing, and I'm
- 15:53Speaker 3: not sure about Hoyt. I think Hoyt is also not
- 15:55Speaker 3: appealing because I think that he was under the impression
- 15:57Speaker 3: that he was just taking responsibility what he did.
- 16:00Speaker 1: And I mean all these like these guys are on
- 16:03Speaker 1: like they're not all on steroids. I'm not saying that
- 16:06Speaker 1: they're they're on.
- 16:06Speaker 4: Every every one of these players, you know, from a
- 16:09Speaker 4: supplement to the punter, is on some sort of supplement.
- 16:12Speaker 4: They have to be their world cast athletes. They have
- 16:14Speaker 4: to be in the best shape possible, and sometimes it
- 16:17Speaker 4: gets a little sketch and these things happen, and the
- 16:19Speaker 4: NFL is obviously very strict, and I don't think they
- 16:22Speaker 4: were openly saying, oh, I'm doing this just to you know,
- 16:25Speaker 4: get big and I won't get in trouble. It just
- 16:28Speaker 4: was a thing of the thing, just like the what's
- 16:31Speaker 4: an a rod with a guerrera? You know their bodies.
- 16:38Speaker 4: I like the potential on them, but it's I just
- 16:41Speaker 4: I'm a little nervous about them ramping up and getting
- 16:44Speaker 4: acclimated with this team and then being a good fit
- 16:46Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, we don't see them
- 16:48Speaker 4: until Thanksgiving, you know.
- 16:49Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's interesting.
- 16:52Speaker 3: You're absolute right, that's a that's a point that I
- 16:54Speaker 3: hadn't really thought about it obviously, Yes, if it geils
- 16:56Speaker 3: and it looks great, and then you got to come
- 16:58Speaker 3: up with the plan B. So it'll be on incumbent
- 17:00Speaker 3: On McDermott and Bobby Babbage to figure that out and
- 17:03Speaker 3: make sure that they sprinkle in, whether it be those
- 17:05Speaker 3: draft picks or Javon Solomon, all those other guys, make
- 17:07Speaker 3: sure that they're getting those guys their reps as well,
- 17:10Speaker 3: because you know, at the beginning of the season you
- 17:12Speaker 3: won't have those guys now going again in chronological order.
- 17:15Speaker 3: It's funny because you know, we're gonna get ready to
- 17:17Speaker 3: talk about a particular running back that I know everybody
- 17:19Speaker 3: is hot on, and we got a topic to fill
- 17:23Speaker 3: with him. But his backup, one of his backups, Ti Johnson,
- 17:26Speaker 3: was signed to a two year deal. I like Tdy
- 17:27Speaker 3: Johnson a lot. I've been singing his praises for the
- 17:29Speaker 3: last few years. I like his versatility and respects and
- 17:32Speaker 3: how he can catch the ball. I like how he
- 17:35Speaker 3: can spell Cook and how he can He's definitely different
- 17:37Speaker 3: than Ray Davis as well.
- 17:39Speaker 2: And obviously he had that highlight last year with that.
- 17:41Speaker 3: Touchdown in the back of the end zone sliding around
- 17:43Speaker 3: and catching the ball, So he's got some great receiving skills.
- 17:45Speaker 2: I like Ty Johnson personally.
- 17:47Speaker 3: I think that he is a good fit and I
- 17:49Speaker 3: was happy that the Bills brought him back DT because
- 17:51Speaker 3: I think that and we'll get to it in a
- 17:53Speaker 3: minute for James Cook, but I think that he fits
- 17:55Speaker 3: in the room in respects to the way that he's
- 17:59Speaker 3: just different. He's different than Cook, He's not Cook, and
- 18:01Speaker 3: he's definitely different than Ray Davis. I like the what
- 18:03Speaker 3: he brings to the team.
- 18:05Speaker 4: Yeah, the touchdowns and the catches were what everyone sees
- 18:09Speaker 4: and what everyone notices. But right the biggest, the biggest point,
- 18:12Speaker 4: I thought he was a non negotiable to bring back.
- 18:14Speaker 4: I thought we needed him back no matter what. Okay's
- 18:17Speaker 4: that pass blocking Techniquely, we talk about it all the time. Yeah,
- 18:21Speaker 4: number one priority protect the goods, and the goods is
- 18:24Speaker 4: number seventeen and that is a serious situation in the NFL.
- 18:28Speaker 4: You need a running back that can can lay a
- 18:30Speaker 4: block and hold it. And Josh doesn't need much. Josh,
- 18:33Speaker 4: he's a little just needs to slow that guy down
- 18:36Speaker 4: a little bit and Ty Johnson does more than that.
- 18:38Speaker 4: And so that's what I've really wanted him back for. Yes,
- 18:41Speaker 4: the touchdowns, his catches are great. You know, pressure is
- 18:44Speaker 4: a privilege, and he gets the privilege of pressure because
- 18:47Speaker 4: he's earned it and Josh likes him and throws to him.
- 18:50Speaker 4: But where he really earns his money and why I
- 18:52Speaker 4: think he was a non negotiable to come back this
- 18:54Speaker 4: year was that pass blocking and I think that's huge.
- 18:57Speaker 4: You gotta keep seventeen upright, especially as he gets older.
- 19:00Speaker 4: He's gonna start getting you know, everything is going to
- 19:03Speaker 4: be a little.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Less as years ago, as years ago, and you got
- 19:06Speaker 1: to you gotta keep him up right and protect him.
- 19:08Speaker 4: So good signing there. I hope he still catches a
- 19:11Speaker 4: bunch of touchdowns. He's a nice little anytime touchdown beat
- 19:14Speaker 4: because he's always great, great odds every Sunday and kind
- 19:18Speaker 4: of sprinkle it in and he's electric. You know, he
- 19:20Speaker 4: gets the people going and with his with his with
- 19:22Speaker 4: his touchdowns, and but he does his job and he
- 19:25Speaker 4: goes in and any blocks or seventeen when he has to.
- 19:27Speaker 4: And I thought it was a non negotiable to bring
- 19:29Speaker 4: him back. I didn't even really think of a time
- 19:31Speaker 4: where we wouldn't bring him back. I thought it was
- 19:33Speaker 4: a brainer. Uh, you know, twenty six.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Back on the squad.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it, you know, I I do like him.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Like I said, I've been singing his praises for the
- 19:40Speaker 3: last few years. So I'm in agreement with you on
- 19:42Speaker 3: everything that you said. Now, the splashiest chronological order, the splashiest,
- 19:47Speaker 3: the biggest name that we pulled in. It's interesting because
- 19:50Speaker 3: I don't know necessarily, you know. I heard some people
- 19:53Speaker 3: talk about this player and you know, and the risk
- 19:56Speaker 3: involved and things like that, and I was on Twitter.
- 19:58Speaker 3: I was like, listen, then the money that he gave
- 20:00Speaker 3: Joey Bosa, I'm like, listen, there's no real risk, Like
- 20:04Speaker 3: he's not. If he wasn't as hurt as he always is,
- 20:06Speaker 3: he would have commanded way more than the twelve million
- 20:09Speaker 3: that they're giving him. So because of that the Bills
- 20:11Speaker 3: have already built in and already baked in that kind
- 20:14Speaker 3: of that mitigated risk.
- 20:15Speaker 2: They know that this guy is not always healthy. They
- 20:17Speaker 2: understand that.
- 20:18Speaker 3: But the biggest fish that the Bills have brought in
- 20:20Speaker 3: in respects to name recognition is the former All Pro
- 20:22Speaker 3: Joey Bosa were released by the Chargers, a longtime Charger lifer,
- 20:26Speaker 3: obviously the older brother of Nick Bosa out there in
- 20:29Speaker 3: San Francisco.
- 20:29Speaker 2: And one thing I can say about him is that
- 20:32Speaker 2: the dude is a baller. When he went right, he's
- 20:34Speaker 2: a baller.
- 20:35Speaker 3: He's one of the best pass rushers of the league,
- 20:37Speaker 3: including with his brother, including Watt, including Miles Garrett. Now
- 20:41Speaker 3: he's getting a little bit longer in the tooth. I'm
- 20:43Speaker 3: not exactly sure why the Chargers dropped him. I know
- 20:47Speaker 3: this had to be, you know, financially motivated as well.
- 20:49Speaker 3: But at twenty nine years old, if you can find
- 20:52Speaker 3: a way to get this guy ready to go for November,
- 20:56Speaker 3: December and January, I see no really risk with this
- 21:00Speaker 3: whole move.
- 21:00Speaker 2: DT.
- 21:01Speaker 3: Where's your thought on Joey Bosa, because I know a
- 21:02Speaker 3: lot of people on Twitter went back and forth and
- 21:04Speaker 3: these guys always injured, and you know, congratulations signing a
- 21:07Speaker 3: guy who's going to play seven games and different things
- 21:09Speaker 3: like that.
- 21:09Speaker 2: I looked up, you know, the statsu hereed on WGR.
- 21:11Speaker 3: His past was written win rate excuse me, was like
- 21:14Speaker 3: seventh among defensive ends last year when he was playing,
- 21:17Speaker 3: he had a pretty productive season last year. I look
- 21:20Speaker 3: at him as an upgrade over what Von was. Vin
- 21:22Speaker 3: was a shell of himself. We have to be honest
- 21:24Speaker 3: with ourselves about that. Once that injury happened with the
- 21:26Speaker 3: ACL It's unfortunate, but he was never the same player again.
- 21:29Speaker 2: He was on track.
- 21:30Speaker 3: It was looking like a great investment for Brandon Bean
- 21:32Speaker 3: that first season. Then he goes down to Detroit on
- 21:34Speaker 3: Thanksgiving and that was really the end of Vin. This
- 21:37Speaker 3: is to me, this is an upgrade over Von Miller,
- 21:39Speaker 3: and I just don't see too much downside. Yes, obviously
- 21:42Speaker 3: we'll be pissed off if he misses five games, but
- 21:45Speaker 3: as long as he's ready for like November deceverage Anuary,
- 21:48Speaker 3: I really I really could care less. I want him
- 21:51Speaker 3: harassing the quarterbacks late in the Season's that's really what
- 21:53Speaker 3: you sign him for.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Well, it's part of the script. It's the same thing
- 21:56Speaker 1: as von Miller.
- 21:57Speaker 4: We bring in a season finisher, right the season finisher,
- 22:01Speaker 4: and I think we were in on Miles Garrett. I
- 22:04Speaker 4: think we were in on you know, some other guys.
- 22:06Speaker 4: I believe that fully. I think I think the proof
- 22:09Speaker 4: was in the pudding last year. Seventeen can get it done.
- 22:12Speaker 4: The offensive line looks good, everything, everything's doable. If we
- 22:16Speaker 4: have a dominant pass rusher, it you might you know,
- 22:18Speaker 4: Lombardi is a lot more probable, and they was part
- 22:22Speaker 4: of that. That's why they did it with von Miller
- 22:23Speaker 4: two years ago. And this, you know, this is the
- 22:26Speaker 4: same exact reasoning they're doing it with Bosa here.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Bosa, like you said, he was healthy, Khalil Mack and
- 22:33Speaker 1: older Khalil Mack got got.
- 22:34Speaker 4: Twenty million dollars a year and stayed with the Chargers.
- 22:37Speaker 4: So I think the Chargers let him go. We're like, okay,
- 22:39Speaker 4: we we're not paying.
- 22:41Speaker 1: We're not paying two thirty plus year old pass rushers,
- 22:44Speaker 1: you know, multiple millions of dollars.
- 22:45Speaker 2: I get that.
- 22:46Speaker 1: So we take advantage.
- 22:47Speaker 4: We move in and get them a big, dominant player
- 22:50Speaker 4: when he is good and in his injuries. I again,
- 22:55Speaker 4: this is very biased and half full and very homer
- 22:58Speaker 4: of me to say, but going through is injuries. There's
- 23:00Speaker 4: nothing structural, there's nothing acl there's nothing, you know, it's all.
- 23:06Speaker 1: It's all bone, bruises and foot.
- 23:08Speaker 2: And footstocking football.
- 23:11Speaker 1: He's getting banged up, right, And granted that deck gets
- 23:14Speaker 1: worse as you get oiler soft tissue is tough, and
- 23:17Speaker 1: we see it all the time. But we didn't it's
- 23:19Speaker 1: one year deal. We didn't spend that much on him
- 23:21Speaker 1: for for that type of caliber player. For you know
- 23:24Speaker 1: that that money is very doable, and he's still in
- 23:27Speaker 1: a position where he's young enough he can go out
- 23:31Speaker 1: and get that get that bag again. He can get
- 23:33Speaker 1: another two to three year contract at twenty to twenty
- 23:36Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, and that's that's one hundred
- 23:39Speaker 1: percent right this year on the prove it deal. If
- 23:42Speaker 1: he sucks, we say see you. If he's great, he's
- 23:45Speaker 1: gonna go.
- 23:46Speaker 4: He he knows all he has to do is get
- 23:48Speaker 4: ten sacks this year and he's gonna get twenty twenty
- 23:51Speaker 4: five million for the next two years. So this is
- 23:53Speaker 4: the rest of his life right now. We're just trying
- 23:56Speaker 4: to fill that piece to an the Lombardi. This is
- 23:58Speaker 4: the rest of his life and his legacy. He's made
- 24:00Speaker 4: a lot of money, but this can really put the
- 24:02Speaker 4: cherry on top and give him that second bag, you
- 24:04Speaker 4: know that for the next couple of years to kind
- 24:06Speaker 4: of end his career. So I like the strategic strategy
- 24:09Speaker 4: of this move to really pump this up. And hey,
- 24:12Speaker 4: if you stink it's it's really no skin off our back.
- 24:15Speaker 4: And if we're good, it only helps you and helps us.
- 24:18Speaker 4: So all around good signing. He's a he's a dog,
- 24:20Speaker 4: he's a beast. I mean, he's got to stay on
- 24:24Speaker 4: the field. I love that family, Nick Posa, Joey Boza,
- 24:27Speaker 4: like talk about like the jeans, Like holy shit, right,
- 24:31Speaker 4: I would have maybe like to see some of the
- 24:34Speaker 4: like you see sweat out there was available. I mean,
- 24:37Speaker 4: Hendrickston still available, things like that. I thought we'd be
- 24:39Speaker 4: a little more aggressive, but I think maybe we put
- 24:41Speaker 4: our eggs into Miles Garrett realized it wasn't possible, went
- 24:44Speaker 4: with the bargain, made it good for the team, and
- 24:47Speaker 4: there's no really no skin. If he stinks it's the same,
- 24:51Speaker 4: it's it's von Miller. The past two years of literally
- 24:54Speaker 4: doing nothing and we're still we're still in the ANC
- 24:58Speaker 4: championship with with a chance to do it. So a
- 25:00Speaker 4: good strategic move by being if it's he knows he's
- 25:04Speaker 4: got to come in and ball out. I think this
- 25:06Speaker 4: gives him a little sense of like, Okay, I'm coming
- 25:08Speaker 4: back to a situation.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Where we can do it. And I love that that
- 25:11Speaker 1: line of when.
- 25:13Speaker 4: Josh texted him and it's like, yo, like I don't
- 25:16Speaker 4: think you realize, like if we do this, like we'll
- 25:19Speaker 4: be mobilized, Like you.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Will forever be a mortal in this town. And that's
- 25:25Speaker 1: that's dead ass.
- 25:26Speaker 4: I mean, Joey Bose is gonna it's gonna feel like
- 25:28Speaker 4: he's been here for forty years if he comes in
- 25:30Speaker 4: and rips off twelve sacks and win the Lombardy.
- 25:32Speaker 1: This year, Joey Bose is a hero.
- 25:35Speaker 2: So sign the next day.
- 25:37Speaker 4: Ohio State knows how to win. I think he's got
- 25:39Speaker 4: a natty out there. I think he was a team
- 25:41Speaker 4: with twelve and uh, you know big nets in the
- 25:45Speaker 4: Bosa family, big nets.
- 25:48Speaker 2: I love it.
- 25:49Speaker 3: I love it absolutely as him and his brother follow
- 25:51Speaker 3: after his father, who I think his dad was a
- 25:53Speaker 3: dolphin back in the day, So yeah, absolutely. As we
- 25:56Speaker 3: round out free agency, the Bills pick up Derrick Forrest.
- 25:59Speaker 3: He's a he's a depth safety. He played for Washington
- 26:03Speaker 3: last year. Makes some big plays actually when he got
- 26:05Speaker 3: in the game. He doesn't play too too much, but
- 26:07Speaker 3: he has some starts. I think he had like seventeen
- 26:09Speaker 3: starts over four years. He's again, he's rotational and some depth.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Kendrick Green was a guard. We all know the Bills
- 26:16Speaker 3: offense line one of the best in the league. The
- 26:18Speaker 3: same five will be back for our beloved Buffalo Bills
- 26:21Speaker 3: next season. And then the final one was Dame Jackson
- 26:23Speaker 3: brought back. We'll talk about it more next week. I
- 26:26Speaker 3: think he was brought back as insurance based on what
- 26:28Speaker 3: goes on in this draft in a couple of weeks
- 26:30Speaker 3: and if shit kind of hits the fan and they
- 26:31Speaker 3: can't get the guy that they want at thirty or
- 26:34Speaker 3: they decided to go in a different direction. I think
- 26:36Speaker 3: that you know, Benford, excuse me, Dang Jackson's here to
- 26:40Speaker 3: kind of mitigate the rookie, whether he's a first rounder
- 26:43Speaker 3: or a second rounder. And we'll talk about that more
- 26:44Speaker 3: next week. I think that Dame Jackson is not your
- 26:47Speaker 3: cornerback too, so don't worry. Bill's Bobby he's I don't
- 26:50Speaker 3: think that this is their plan for Cornerback two. I
- 26:51Speaker 3: think they still want to go ahead and get a
- 26:53Speaker 3: young guy to come in there. But if things don't
- 26:55Speaker 3: go the way that they want them to go, on
- 26:56Speaker 3: the board doesn't fall a certain way, Dame Jackson insurance.
- 27:00Speaker 3: See they're familiar with him. Now as we transition from
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- 27:34Speaker 2: that you did. DT.
- 27:36Speaker 3: We kind of alluded to it extensions galore. It's funny
- 27:41Speaker 3: because you know, Brandon Bean, what do they love to
- 27:45Speaker 3: tell you? They love to say that we love to.
- 27:46Speaker 2: Draft, develop and pay our own draft, develop, pay our own.
- 27:50Speaker 3: Well, he sure as hell did that, and four guys
- 27:53Speaker 3: get four Buffalo Bills get extensions this offseason. Khalishakir terrelll Bernard,
- 27:59Speaker 3: Greg Russo, and Christian Benford the other day, a couple
- 28:02Speaker 3: of weeks ago getting that life changing money, DT. Give
- 28:04Speaker 3: me your thoughts on it before we get ready to
- 28:06Speaker 3: talk about who was left out.
- 28:08Speaker 2: You know, Khalil, I like him.
- 28:10Speaker 3: You know, he's not spectacular to me, but but he
- 28:14Speaker 3: does his job and I think that he does his
- 28:15Speaker 3: job well. I think he's the perfect slots receiver for Josh.
- 28:18Speaker 3: I think he's actually like a souped up Cole Beasley
- 28:21Speaker 3: in my opinion. I like Benford. I think that I
- 28:25Speaker 3: don't think that he's you know, game he's not Patrick Willis,
- 28:28Speaker 3: He's not you know what I mean, He's nothing.
- 28:29Speaker 2: He's not He's not.
- 28:30Speaker 3: Game changing out there, but he does make big plays.
- 28:33Speaker 3: I think you saw the other side of that coin
- 28:35Speaker 3: last year, DT. When you don't get the turnovers, what
- 28:37Speaker 3: kind of linebacker you have? But still a leader, a
- 28:39Speaker 3: guy One of the two captains named on the team
- 28:41Speaker 3: by their Peers last year along with Josh Allen. I
- 28:44Speaker 3: think that he's somebody that you wanted to keep in
- 28:45Speaker 3: the room for sure. He's earned his stripes, I think.
- 28:48Speaker 3: I mean, one of the biggest players of the season
- 28:49Speaker 3: obviously against Baltimore Force and that fumble A great a
- 28:52Speaker 3: good player, good to great player, and that's somebody that
- 28:55Speaker 3: I like.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Around Rousseau, I'm.
- 28:56Speaker 3: A little bit more. I'm not on the Twitter space.
- 28:59Speaker 3: I'm you know, okay. I mean, I think he's good.
- 29:02Speaker 3: He hasn't really shown me that he's great yet. He
- 29:04Speaker 3: started last year with his hair on fire and kind
- 29:07Speaker 3: of sizzled and fills it off by the end of
- 29:09Speaker 3: the year, so I wasn't really too impressed by the
- 29:11Speaker 3: time it came AFC Championship time DT and then Christian Benford,
- 29:15Speaker 3: who doesn't love a story like him, I mean, worked
- 29:17Speaker 3: his ass off, beat out the number, the first round pick,
- 29:21Speaker 3: starts out of training camp and then goes on and
- 29:23Speaker 3: has a couple of good seasons and last year was
- 29:25Speaker 3: his best season.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Then he gets rewarded.
- 29:27Speaker 3: You know, who doesn't love an awesome story like that
- 29:29Speaker 3: young guy from Villanova from Philly.
- 29:31Speaker 2: They do.
- 29:31Speaker 3: I don't even know that they played football at Villanova
- 29:33Speaker 3: until I heard about him. So DT, give me your
- 29:35Speaker 3: thoughts on the four extensions before we head to the
- 29:38Speaker 3: one guy that was left out.
- 29:40Speaker 4: Well, it was opposite of last year. Right, last year
- 29:43Speaker 4: we got rid of everybody, and now, I mean this
- 29:46Speaker 4: was kind of necessity. You know, whether whether you love
- 29:49Speaker 4: these guys or not, we had to do this. You know,
- 29:52Speaker 4: you can't build a brand new team every year and
- 29:54Speaker 4: build up the all fifty three around around seventeen. Granted
- 29:58Speaker 4: we're blessed with the offensive line. We did a good
- 30:00Speaker 4: job of kind of paying them before they got good,
- 30:03Speaker 4: so they're not going to kill it, yes, and we
- 30:06Speaker 4: can kind of keep them intact.
- 30:08Speaker 1: But you can't just pay You can't just get a
- 30:10Speaker 1: new roster every year. So this is something that was necessary,
- 30:14Speaker 1: I think, And and credit to Vandon Be for having
- 30:17Speaker 1: a couple of years of those draft picks that were,
- 30:19Speaker 1: you know, startable players to go in and we got
- 30:22Speaker 1: to have you know, the core, Like, none of these
- 30:24Speaker 1: guys are first team All pros. Hopefully one of.
- 30:26Speaker 4: Them becomes one sooner or later and gets you know,
- 30:29Speaker 4: but we didn't overpay. I don't think for anybody. It
- 30:32Speaker 4: wasn't like ground shattering money. We moved around. For any
- 30:35Speaker 4: of these guys, it was fair all the way around,
- 30:38Speaker 4: around average, a little above average, and that's what these
- 30:40Speaker 4: guys aren't. I have a little more pop on forty three.
- 30:44Speaker 4: I think Bernardi is a playmaker.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Well, let's let's go in order. Who What are your
- 30:48Speaker 2: thoughts of Shakiir? What do you think about him? I
- 30:50Speaker 2: think I say.
- 30:50Speaker 4: Sometimes that was more of a he catches everything, you know,
- 30:55Speaker 4: and it's a souped up cold Beasley's a good way
- 30:57Speaker 4: to put it.
- 30:57Speaker 1: But that was a necessity. We have no receivers kind
- 31:00Speaker 1: of in that window of the next couple of years.
- 31:03Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of filling it up. Who who
- 31:05Speaker 1: can we.
- 31:05Speaker 4: Bring in as a group and one here, one there. Yeah,
- 31:08Speaker 4: now we have Josh Palmer, but we have no idea
- 31:10Speaker 4: what he's going to be about. We got Curtis Samuel
- 31:12Speaker 4: who really did nothing and that's that's really it. So
- 31:15Speaker 4: we had we had to get somebody in here, you know,
- 31:19Speaker 4: for for the future, yes, but in that necessity to
- 31:23Speaker 4: build around and he he's earned it.
- 31:25Speaker 1: I mean each year it's a perfect progression, like exactly
- 31:28Speaker 1: what you want to see as a player. In the
- 31:31Speaker 1: third or what a fourth round, fourth.
- 31:32Speaker 4: Round guy, Yeah, fourth round guy. You're not gonna expect
- 31:36Speaker 4: him to come in and be killer first year, and
- 31:37Speaker 4: he wasn't. He was opportunistic. He came in and did
- 31:39Speaker 4: this thing. The next year, get a few more catches,
- 31:42Speaker 4: kind of came on the scene, and then this year
- 31:44Speaker 4: when we had to rely on him a little bit,
- 31:46Speaker 4: he came to play in the end of the year.
- 31:48Speaker 4: He wasn't there as much. He wasn't there as much
- 31:54Speaker 4: as maybe I wanted to say. But but that's also
- 31:58Speaker 4: not one hundred on him either. If he's not getting
- 32:01Speaker 4: the ball thrown to him, you know what, that's that's that.
- 32:03Speaker 4: But but I'd like to see him a little more,
- 32:06Speaker 4: you know when now he is our primo guy, So
- 32:10Speaker 4: I'd like to see him a little more down the
- 32:11Speaker 4: stretch and clutch situations. And that's the next step he
- 32:14Speaker 4: has to take, is that rise of you know, progression,
- 32:17Speaker 4: And I think he's done a good job with that.
- 32:19Speaker 4: He catches everything, well what else, you know, what else?
- 32:21Speaker 4: What else can he ask? He's slippery as hell, he
- 32:23Speaker 4: never goes down. He catches everything. I'd like to see
- 32:26Speaker 4: him a little later in the year but we needed
- 32:28Speaker 4: to do it on the other side of the ball.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Forty three makes plays every week he does. I'm a
- 32:36Speaker 4: believer of him staying on the field. He is a
- 32:38Speaker 4: core of that defense. He makes, he causes turnovers, he
- 32:41Speaker 4: lays hits, He's all over the field for kind of
- 32:44Speaker 4: being a little undersize. So I'd like forty three out
- 32:46Speaker 4: of all these signings for Bernard's my number one.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Like him on our defense. He's heart and soul of that.
- 32:54Speaker 4: Rousseau kind of falls into the same category as Shakir
- 32:57Speaker 4: and like you had to, you know, like he needed
- 33:00Speaker 4: some defensive we had.
- 33:02Speaker 2: We had to.
- 33:04Speaker 1: I mean, who if we weren't gonna get sweat or
- 33:07Speaker 1: somebody like that.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess. Yeah. I just so not.
- 33:12Speaker 2: I'm just not as in pressed.
- 33:14Speaker 3: And then I don't think that it's a consensus across
- 33:16Speaker 3: Bill's mafia that he's some generational guy or anything like that.
- 33:19Speaker 3: But I think that I think that the start of
- 33:21Speaker 3: the season last year got everybody all excited and like,
- 33:23Speaker 3: oh my gosh, he's starting to come into his own.
- 33:24Speaker 2: He's starting to be this guy. And you know, I
- 33:27Speaker 2: just I haven't really seen it.
- 33:28Speaker 3: I mean by the by the end of the year,
- 33:30Speaker 3: he really wasn't making he wasn't he was quiet as
- 33:33Speaker 3: a mouse side.
- 33:33Speaker 2: I don't know, but maybe maybe right maybe we had to.
- 33:36Speaker 4: And and Benford's in the in the same boat. I mean,
- 33:39Speaker 4: we don't literally have another corner other than Taron Johnson,
- 33:41Speaker 4: who but old, you know, and it doesn't look like
- 33:44Speaker 4: we're bringing a school back. So Dame Jackson, we had
- 33:47Speaker 4: to get Christian Bedford. And it's smart because if he
- 33:50Speaker 4: does go and and ball out this year, he is
- 33:53Speaker 4: gonna get high cornerback one premium. He's gonna get one
- 33:57Speaker 4: hundred milion.
- 33:58Speaker 2: It's a bargain. It's a bargain right now, were.
- 34:00Speaker 3: Years one hundred mili and we saw who who got
- 34:03Speaker 3: JC Horn down here in Charlotte with the Panthers got
- 34:06Speaker 3: like one hundred million.
- 34:07Speaker 4: It's Kristan Benzer just as good as him, and he
- 34:10Speaker 4: got that primo. So if he goes out and has
- 34:12Speaker 4: another solid year, we're gonna need to pay him one
- 34:14Speaker 4: hundred and twenty million dollars, right, So got in I
- 34:18Speaker 4: think at the right time with him, and we needed
- 34:20Speaker 4: to Brousseau. I'd like to see he's the biggest athletic specimen,
- 34:24Speaker 4: the first round pick. No, we need we need him
- 34:28Speaker 4: to start producing and be that guy and be the
- 34:30Speaker 4: Ying and Yang too.
- 34:31Speaker 1: You know we we can't. We're not getting fifteen sacks
- 34:34Speaker 1: out of Joey Bosa, so we need our ten from
- 34:37Speaker 1: Rousseau and got the money now you got.
- 34:39Speaker 2: To go get it. Yeah, I agree.
- 34:41Speaker 3: As we begin to wrap up tonight, you know, it's
- 34:43Speaker 3: funny because I saw a lot of stuff on.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Twitter after after Benford.
- 34:47Speaker 3: I mean it was going on all throughout those four signings,
- 34:50Speaker 3: but then once ben for signed, it was funny.
- 34:52Speaker 2: It was this Kat Williams a little gift whatever.
- 34:55Speaker 3: He was like, you shouldn't have been talking shit, you know,
- 34:57Speaker 3: from one of his stand ups, and it was funny
- 34:59Speaker 3: as hell, and they were obviously aiming it that James Cook.
- 35:01Speaker 3: As we wrap up tonight, James Cook, you know, he
- 35:04Speaker 3: goes on Twitter, puts the fifteen million dollars, the ie
- 35:07Speaker 3: Google emojis, and then he doesn't end up getting paid.
- 35:11Speaker 2: Now, obviously I would hope that somebody close to.
- 35:13Speaker 3: Him, whether it be his older brother Dalvin or his agent,
- 35:16Speaker 3: told this man that he should not expect fifteen million
- 35:20Speaker 3: dollars from the Buffalo Bills. I would hope that now, obviously,
- 35:23Speaker 3: what do you say, You shoot high and he aim
- 35:25Speaker 3: for the stars, and then obviously you come back to
- 35:26Speaker 3: a more reasonable number.
- 35:28Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that there is a reasonable number that
- 35:30Speaker 2: he's willing to accept. DT. He's the one left out.
- 35:33Speaker 3: Brandon Bean the last time that he addressed the media
- 35:36Speaker 3: said that, listen man, we moved on from him because
- 35:38Speaker 3: we weren't close. We signed the guys that we thought
- 35:40Speaker 3: we were closer with, and he said he doesn't see
- 35:43Speaker 3: anything in the near future. I just heard a report
- 35:46Speaker 3: earlier last week that I guess maybe he's not going to,
- 35:50Speaker 3: you know, cause any problems or anything like that, and
- 35:51Speaker 3: he plans to report and YadA, YadA, YadA. What's your
- 35:55Speaker 3: initial reaction to James cook his ask of the money
- 35:59Speaker 3: as we begin to wrap up tonight, DT, because I
- 36:01Speaker 3: know you've got a bounce, But what did you think
- 36:03Speaker 3: about the whole saga?
- 36:04Speaker 2: Did you think he went about it the wrong way?
- 36:05Speaker 3: I personally don't know if the social media shit really
- 36:08Speaker 3: doesn't I don't think that Brandon Bean is really moved
- 36:10Speaker 3: by that stuff. That was when I was always yelling
- 36:12Speaker 3: and screaming about Stefan Diggs. Like, I don't think that
- 36:14Speaker 3: Brandon Bean even cares about that stuff. He cares about
- 36:16Speaker 3: the player and the agent. Like what you call me,
- 36:19Speaker 3: you have my number, you tell me what's going on.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Somebody had to tell James Cook that he's not going
- 36:25Speaker 3: to get fifteen million dollars, right, I mean he he
- 36:27Speaker 3: knows that, right. I know his brother got the bag
- 36:29Speaker 3: for Minnesota, but he knows that, right.
- 36:31Speaker 4: I'd like to right, I'd like to know the full
- 36:35Speaker 4: story here, and we'll never know, right, But like did
- 36:38Speaker 4: he come after the season and say, hey, like I
- 36:41Speaker 4: just put.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Up big numbers, I want some money and then being
- 36:44Speaker 1: in that more like m.
- 36:47Speaker 4: Then and then so he then he started the social
- 36:50Speaker 4: media stuff to kind of like spark it, and like
- 36:52Speaker 4: maybe that was his way to negotiate.
- 36:54Speaker 1: I don't know if that was the case. That's a
- 36:56Speaker 1: little more messy.
- 36:57Speaker 4: I hope he just kind of came out and said,
- 37:00Speaker 4: you know, then said the stuff to kind of get
- 37:02Speaker 4: some attention and see what would happen.
- 37:04Speaker 1: But I don't blame him. I mean, this dude in
- 37:07Speaker 1: a league where running backs are disrespected every year, you know,
- 37:12Speaker 1: and he comes off a career year sixteen touchdowns. He
- 37:17Speaker 1: knows if next year, in a contract year, if he
- 37:19Speaker 1: doesn't get sixteen touchdowns, he's not gonna get what he
- 37:22Speaker 1: could get technically this year. Hurt. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 37:26Speaker 4: So it's a it's a business move on his part
- 37:29Speaker 4: to kind of like, hey, I'm at my highest value,
- 37:31Speaker 4: like I want to get paid. Like it is smart
- 37:33Speaker 4: in a way, but also you can't expect the bills
- 37:36Speaker 4: to just say, oh, yeah, you're right. So I don't
- 37:40Speaker 4: think he thinks he's getting fifteen I wish you were
- 37:44Speaker 4: a little quieter about it. And Beans kind of says
- 37:46Speaker 4: that too, and but being also said, it's like, hey,
- 37:49Speaker 4: James cook is a man. He's gonna handle how he
- 37:51Speaker 4: wants to handle it. And like what you were saying about,
- 37:53Speaker 4: I don't think he really cares about the outside stuff.
- 37:55Speaker 4: It's him talking to the James Cooking and the agency. Yeah,
- 38:00Speaker 4: it's I don't.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Think it's to a point where this dude's gonna hold
- 38:02Speaker 1: out or anything.
- 38:03Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask you, do you think it
- 38:04Speaker 2: gets messy this summer?
- 38:05Speaker 1: No.
- 38:06Speaker 4: I think I think he you know, he knows that
- 38:10Speaker 4: this team is one of the best in the league.
- 38:12Speaker 4: And he's a crucial asset to that.
- 38:14Speaker 2: But the most explosive player. Besides that, he's gonna, you know.
- 38:17Speaker 4: To give him some wisdom on the business side of things.
- 38:20Speaker 4: His brother Delvin, you know, his brother Delvin super successful career,
- 38:23Speaker 4: got paid, got a few different contracts, and then you know,
- 38:26Speaker 4: kind of falls off and James Cook is just trying
- 38:28Speaker 4: to get his bag. And it's a business and he
- 38:29Speaker 4: doesn't know how long he's gonna be ready to go.
- 38:32Speaker 4: In a league where the average player plays three years,
- 38:36Speaker 4: this is in. It could happen. He's not that big,
- 38:39Speaker 4: he runs the ball, you know, they bad things could happen.
- 38:41Speaker 4: So I don't blame him from out the money. He
- 38:43Speaker 4: had a career year. He had sixteen touchdowns and if
- 38:46Speaker 4: he's not on the team, we got to fill sixteen touchdowns,
- 38:49Speaker 4: right And but I also don't think he is in
- 38:52Speaker 4: a position where he's just gonna hold out and you know,
- 38:55Speaker 4: and try to try to get it done. I think
- 38:57Speaker 4: the Bills are gonna let it roll. If he has
- 38:59Speaker 4: another I will be the first one to get on
- 39:02Speaker 4: and say pay him. Hearned it, pay him. If he
- 39:06Speaker 4: has a mediocre season, I still say keep him on.
- 39:08Speaker 1: The team pay him.
- 39:09Speaker 4: I think he's a great asset of the offense, but
- 39:12Speaker 4: not now. He's fine, He's gonna play. He's not gonna
- 39:16Speaker 4: hold out.
- 39:17Speaker 2: He's not gonna lose checks man on a rookie contract.
- 39:19Speaker 3: I mean, Bill's mafi. You got to remember that these
- 39:21Speaker 3: guys are making eye. He's he's the final year of
- 39:23Speaker 3: his lookie deal. He's about to make five million. But
- 39:26Speaker 3: you know, you see stuff and he puts his house
- 39:28Speaker 3: on the market and stuff like that. I'm like, listen, y'all,
- 39:30Speaker 3: he's doing that shit for y'all. Like he's not doing
- 39:32Speaker 3: that for the Bills. Like, listen, He's about to make
- 39:35Speaker 3: five million dollars next year. It'll be the most money
- 39:38Speaker 3: he's ever made in his life. And you know, I
- 39:40Speaker 3: just think that it's a situation where the Bills I
- 39:42Speaker 3: don't think that they want to pay him early.
- 39:44Speaker 2: Basically, they might have.
- 39:45Speaker 3: Maybe James Cook, like, you're right, he came to him
- 39:47Speaker 3: and said, hey, listen, I want fifteen and they say,
- 39:49Speaker 3: hell no. He's like, okay, I'll take twelve. And then
- 39:51Speaker 3: that Brandon was still like hell no, you know what
- 39:53Speaker 3: I mean. And then you know, you just got to
- 39:54Speaker 3: you got to play it out. He's not going to
- 39:56Speaker 3: lose checks and he's not going to lose money, and
- 39:59Speaker 3: I just think that's sometimes we lose sight of that
- 40:01Speaker 3: these guys don't like losing money. He's not in a
- 40:03Speaker 3: position where he's banked enough money to lose money. He's
- 40:06Speaker 3: going to come to work in the summer.
- 40:08Speaker 2: I really do think that.
- 40:09Speaker 1: I think it was a situation of well it, you know,
- 40:12Speaker 1: you don't know until you ask, you.
- 40:14Speaker 2: Know, closed mouth, don't get that if I ask.
- 40:17Speaker 1: For fifty million, they give me fifty million nights. So
- 40:20Speaker 1: I think it was one of those type of deals.
- 40:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I absolutely I agree. I think he will come
- 40:25Speaker 3: to work this offseason. Well, you know, it's funny because
- 40:28Speaker 3: I've really really enjoyed the off season in respects to
- 40:31Speaker 3: some of the moves that brain to be made. I
- 40:33Speaker 3: don't think that there was anything too splashy, and I
- 40:35Speaker 3: really didn't expect anything too splashy. But as we begin
- 40:37Speaker 3: to wrap up tonight DT, I'm looking forward to next week.
- 40:40Speaker 3: We'll have our draft preview episode next week, and then
- 40:43Speaker 3: in a couple weeks we'll actually be doing a Buffalo
- 40:45Speaker 3: fan base like podcast simal cast. Well all of us
- 40:47Speaker 3: will be together and you get a chance to see
- 40:49Speaker 3: DT and I with some of the great content creators.
- 40:52Speaker 2: I'm over at Buffalo fan Base, DT. I'm excited for
- 40:55Speaker 2: the draft.
- 40:55Speaker 3: I can't wait to talk to you next week about
- 40:57Speaker 3: it and get some more in depth ideas that you
- 41:00Speaker 3: you've got. I always love the draft. I'm just not
- 41:02Speaker 3: a draft nerd, so I'm not doing mox all day
- 41:04Speaker 3: and stuff like that. That doesn't really move me.
- 41:06Speaker 2: When do we pick? What time are we picking?
- 41:08Speaker 3: And who are the best players on the board, and
- 41:10Speaker 3: then and obviously what our needs are are the things
- 41:13Speaker 3: that I focus on. But I am excited about the
- 41:14Speaker 3: draft coming up in a couple of weeks and H
- 41:17Speaker 3: and DT, listen, enjoy your weekend.
- 41:20Speaker 2: Man, what do you got? I know we don't have
- 41:21Speaker 2: a tailgate report, but I know you've got something going
- 41:23Speaker 2: on right now? What what? What are you headed to?
- 41:25Speaker 2: Shout out over six hundred people watching tonight. We really
- 41:27Speaker 2: appreciate you guys.
- 41:28Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, great. We kind of had it going
- 41:30Speaker 1: to Kelsey Ballerini tonight. I found out who she was
- 41:35Speaker 1: about two days ago.
- 41:38Speaker 4: It was a rescheduled concert at key Bank, so on
- 41:43Speaker 4: the reschedule, some people couldn't make it from the previous
- 41:47Speaker 4: tickets to the new tickets, So I don't know why
- 41:49Speaker 4: I was the the person to fill that spot. But
- 41:53Speaker 4: you know, here here we are going to that getting downtown.
- 41:56Speaker 4: You know, old older DT don't get out as much
- 41:59Speaker 4: as he used to. So it's good to get out
- 42:01Speaker 4: on the town. And it's been a it's been a
- 42:03Speaker 4: long cold winter. It still is cold up here. It's yeah,
- 42:06Speaker 4: but I got that going tonight. Maybe see uh see
- 42:09Speaker 4: the nephew and sister and brother in law this weekend
- 42:13Speaker 4: and then Master Sunday.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Man the Masters. We're all about the Masters.
- 42:17Speaker 4: You get the jacket, see the golf, and that kind
- 42:20Speaker 4: of gets you in the mood for spring. And the
- 42:21Speaker 4: azalea's down in Georgia and and you look out and
- 42:24Speaker 4: it's snowing and raining here. But uh yeah, it'll be
- 42:27Speaker 4: it'll be a good weekend. Looking forward to it. Uh
- 42:30Speaker 4: you know, just just to be up, be out and
- 42:32Speaker 4: about what about you?
- 42:33Speaker 3: Yeah, man chillum. And I've got Bobby and Nat are
- 42:36Speaker 3: on a cruise. They went on a cruise with their mom,
- 42:37Speaker 3: their first cruise, so they'll be back I think Sunday
- 42:40Speaker 3: or Monday, So that's been cool to hear the updates
- 42:42Speaker 3: about how much fun they've been having. So I've been
- 42:44Speaker 3: having the little ones around, Quincy in the house, flowing
- 42:47Speaker 3: the house, and Ivy doing her thing, rolling over everywhere.
- 42:49Speaker 3: So we've been having a good time here, Loki. The
- 42:53Speaker 3: weather finally started to break down here in Charlotte, which
- 42:55Speaker 3: is really cool. It's raining today, but it has broken
- 42:58Speaker 3: and it's definitely starting to warm up, so that's good thing.
- 43:00Speaker 3: But yeah, man, just slow motion, man, off season. You
- 43:03Speaker 3: already know we DT. I'm slow motion. Make sure the
- 43:06Speaker 3: kids don't break nothing, nobody's bleeding, and we'll get or
- 43:09Speaker 3: just trying to get to September.
- 43:10Speaker 2: That's it.
- 43:10Speaker 3: I'm trying to get back to you, baby, get back
- 43:12Speaker 3: to the Ralph, and I'm really excited about that.
- 43:14Speaker 2: But we will talk next week. DT.
- 43:16Speaker 3: Listen, Nicol City Crew, Bill's Mafia. We appreciate you guys.
- 43:19Speaker 3: Over six hundred people watching for our season five premiere,
- 43:22Speaker 3: We really appreciate it. Again, I feel so blessed. I
- 43:25Speaker 3: know DT feels the same way we've been with you
- 43:27Speaker 3: guys now five seasons. This one will be our best
- 43:30Speaker 3: one yet and as always, we hope it's going to
- 43:32Speaker 3: end with the parade. Listen, DT, you enjoy your weekend,
- 43:37Speaker 3: Enjoy whoever the hell you're talking about. I have no
- 43:39Speaker 3: idea who that lady is, but you enjoy the concert
- 43:42Speaker 3: and enjoy downtown DT. Listen out there, spread love not hate.
- 43:48Speaker 3: These were my bills, thoughts said out loud.
- 43:50Speaker 2: Hit them with to go bills. DT. Season five is underway, baby.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Season five. Let's go bills, Go bills.
- 43:58Speaker 2: I love it, fith I love it.