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LNC is Part of the Furniture · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the large Ner Drunk Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with these always is
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  Speaker 1: the amazing Jolly Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: I solved today's crossword puzzle in eleven minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were about to say eleven seconds, but
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  Speaker 1: eleven minutes is still really impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's the New York Times crossword puzzle, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I have a subscription to The New York Times, so
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  Speaker 2: I play the crossword puzzle every day. Now. It's the
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  Speaker 2: way that I initially unwind and then gradually become very angry.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm really sad because they had the mini
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  Speaker 1: crossword that was free to play.
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  Speaker 2: Is it now part of the subscription thing? Yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: I played that one too, But because I'm subscribed, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know which ones are which I have.
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  Speaker 1: I have a different like I have a crossword app
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  Speaker 1: on my phone that pulls a bunch of them in
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  Speaker 1: and some of them are like big important crosswords, but
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  Speaker 1: it's it's too many a day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the New York Times also like I hadn't
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  Speaker 2: played the crossword since I was maybe a teenager, and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that they've added like additional rules and
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  Speaker 2: stuff to their crossword where you can have multiple letters
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  Speaker 2: in the same box. Oh yeah, so you'll be like
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  Speaker 2: You'll look at and you're like, huh, it's like seven
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  Speaker 2: letters long, and you're thinking, I can't think of any
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  Speaker 2: word that's seven letters long that fits that. And then
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  Speaker 2: you think, well, if I were doing a short phrase,
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  Speaker 2: it would be this, but that's like eleven letters. That's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be And then you find out, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's because one of those boxes has multiple letters in it,
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  Speaker 2: both for vertical and horizontal, so it might be something
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  Speaker 2: simple like and a recent one was the the the
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  Speaker 2: all the letters the multiple letters spelled out tree names,
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  Speaker 2: like there was palm and ash and oak, and like
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  Speaker 2: I said, they fit both horizontal and vertical. And then
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  Speaker 2: one of the questions was where you can find the
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  Speaker 2: prizes hints are in the multiple letters or above the circles,
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  Speaker 2: and it was under the tree because they were all
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  Speaker 2: tree names.
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  Speaker 1: So I like, I've played games like that. Whenever I
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  Speaker 1: go traveling, I get with like the big puzzle books
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  Speaker 1: that house all the different kinds of puzzles in it,
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  Speaker 1: and they definitely have the crosswords where you have to
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  Speaker 1: put multiple letters in each. I hate that because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just trying to figure out the words.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and they're not always clear that that's a
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  Speaker 2: thing that can Like the first time I had that,
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  Speaker 2: I encountered that, I was like, I had never seen
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  Speaker 2: it before, and there was nothing about the puzzle that
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  Speaker 2: indicated that that was something that could even happen. So
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  Speaker 2: I just sat there staring at it feeling stupid until
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  Speaker 2: I think I looked at a hint eventually, because I
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  Speaker 2: just I was like, I cannot crack this. Nothing I
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  Speaker 2: can think of fits this, And then when I saw it,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, no, wonder you're cheating.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I also don't. I also don't like the crosswords
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  Speaker 1: were like in the title, they're like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: being cheeky somehow, and then none of the answers actually
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  Speaker 1: match up with the clues in any logical way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had a couple of those too, where or
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  Speaker 2: like the cheeky thing is uh, yeah, some of the
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  Speaker 2: answers are there, but they're misspelled. I'm like, well, you
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  Speaker 2: can't do that. Yeah, the puzzle depends upon you knowing
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  Speaker 2: how the word is spelled so that you can salt.
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  Speaker 2: Oh anyway, I could go on for crossword about crosswords forever,
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  Speaker 2: but until we get Gilly and Jacobs on this podcast
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  Speaker 2: to be a guest, I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: Oh is Gillian Jacobs said?
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  Speaker 2: Huge? Huge? So there's a clip from a game show.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't know who Gillian Jacob says, she
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  Speaker 2: was Brita on Community.
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  Speaker 1: She's also the voice of Adam Adam's Eve on Invincible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so great actress. But she was on
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  Speaker 2: a game show I think, along with some of her
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  Speaker 2: other Community co stars, where it was it was one
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  Speaker 2: where you were trying to determine who was telling the
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  Speaker 2: truth and who was telling the lie. And they had
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  Speaker 2: two people up on the stand and they were both
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  Speaker 2: claiming to be the editor for the New York Times
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  Speaker 2: crossword puzzle, and so she said, can you say the
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  Speaker 2: following sentence? And she gives the sentence and each of
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  Speaker 2: them did, and she's like, all right, I know who
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  Speaker 2: it is. And everyone stares at her and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's because he's on NPR and he has a segment
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  Speaker 2: on mp are where he talks about the crossword every
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  Speaker 2: week and I'd never ever ever miss it.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing, it was very cute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, since we're talking about geeky things and geeky interests,
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  Speaker 2: it leads us to this week's question, which I wrote,
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  Speaker 2: which is what was a geeky thing that you wanted
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  Speaker 2: for Christmas as a child. It could be something that
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  Speaker 2: you got or something maybe that you never got.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't I don't fully remember what I asked
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  Speaker 1: for as a kid. Maybe I asked for a Nintendo
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, or a computer. I honestly don't remember,
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  Speaker 1: but I do remember some of the cooler gifts I got.
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  Speaker 1: I got one of those Fisher Price four and one
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  Speaker 1: three in one pool table, ping pong table, air hockey tables,
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  Speaker 1: and that did me a lot of good for many
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  Speaker 1: many years. I also got a bike, which was cool,
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  Speaker 1: and some nice lego sets which was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Oh maybe it was the creepy Crawler machine. So for
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  Speaker 1: anybody who's too young to note who listens like you,
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  Speaker 1: remember like easy bake ovens. Yeah, they also had one
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  Speaker 1: where you'd get like the metal the metal trays and
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  Speaker 1: you'd put like plasticcene in it, like different color plastic
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  Speaker 1: goose and create like squishy rubber like spiders and beetle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I seem to like. I The reason why
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  Speaker 2: Ariel's talking like this is because she saw me with
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  Speaker 2: a confused look on my face as I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out what she was talking about. But now
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  Speaker 2: as you describe it, I do remember those things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had that, and I also had the
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't an easy bake oven, but it was basically
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  Speaker 1: like a candy making set, kind of like that where
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  Speaker 1: you would melt down chocolate or gummy stuff and make
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  Speaker 1: like gummy bears and chocolates. And that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: started my whole love of like baking and candy making
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  Speaker 1: and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: So that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think those are maybe the things that I
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  Speaker 1: asked for that I got. I'm sure there were other
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  Speaker 1: geeky things, but I don't remember. My mom might be
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  Speaker 1: able to tell me. She may not remember either. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: the fans were that year, my Little Ponies, I loved
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  Speaker 1: my Little Ponies. I still have my My Little Ponies.
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  Speaker 2: And then they came back around a couple of times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: yeah for me, Well, I mean I got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of geeky stuff when I was a kid because my
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  Speaker 2: parents are both science fiction and fantasy fans, So like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, lots of years I would get stuff like
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars action figures or he Man action figures or
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  Speaker 2: playsets that kind of thing. But the thing I always wanted,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think I ever asked for it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember asking for it, but I wanted it because
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  Speaker 2: I saw the commercials. I was just like, Wow, that's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Was the tomy Omni bought two thousand. Oh Wow, had
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  Speaker 2: a little programmable robot that came out in nineteen eighty four,
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  Speaker 2: and it had a cassette tape so you could have
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  Speaker 2: it do different actions and record the commands on the
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  Speaker 2: cassette tape so that you could have it playback that
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  Speaker 2: specific sequence if you wanted to. But this thing cost
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  Speaker 2: a fortune, So keep in mind nineteen eighty four, the
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  Speaker 2: retail price for this thing was six hundred dollars, So
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  Speaker 2: if we would if we adjust for inflation, which I did,
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  Speaker 2: that would be around one thousand, eight hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: bucks today. So I never asked for this thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was just this astronomical price right, and both my
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  Speaker 2: parents were teachers, so there was no way they'd be
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  Speaker 2: able to afford it, So hopefully I didn't ask for it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember asking for it, that doesn't mean I didn't,
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  Speaker 2: especially when I was very little and didn't have a
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  Speaker 2: great appreciation for what money and cost it are. So
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, also turns out I don't tend to stick
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  Speaker 2: with stuff all the time. So my biggest fear is
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  Speaker 2: that they would have sacrificed a ridiculous amount to be
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  Speaker 2: able to give me this thing, only for me to
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  Speaker 2: abandon it like two weeks later. So I'm glad I
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  Speaker 2: never got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's also like, so one of
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  Speaker 1: my biggest shames is not really a big shame. I
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  Speaker 1: got a butt. I got rid of a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of toys when I moved down to Atlanta when I
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  Speaker 1: was seven, But I had a bunch of like Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars action figures that I'd play with. But I also
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  Speaker 1: was I had a really bad habit of chewing on everything.
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  Speaker 1: My teeth are paying for it now. I got a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of little microfractures from chewing on pencils and pens
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  Speaker 1: and those little plastic pacifiers that were cool in the
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  Speaker 1: nineties and two thousands and all that stuff. So I had,
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  Speaker 1: like I had like the layout with the helmet on
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  Speaker 1: from Return of the Jedi, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, where she was posing as a bounty hunter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I chewed that helmet all to heck and back,
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  Speaker 1: and like I was a kid, and I played with
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  Speaker 1: them and I enjoyed them so like they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: been mint condition, but man if I if I had
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  Speaker 1: held onto them or taken care of them, it'd be
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  Speaker 1: worth something I had.
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  Speaker 2: I had dozens of Star Wars figures. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you ever saw them, but they had like these
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  Speaker 2: big carrying cases that look like Darth Vader or C
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  Speaker 2: three Po and you would you know, they were probably
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, twenty four inches tall or so,
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  Speaker 2: maybe more, and you would open them and it'd be
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  Speaker 2: a case that you could fit figures into, and you
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  Speaker 2: could even put stickers with the figure names and stuff
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  Speaker 2: on there. I had Darth Theater and C three Po
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  Speaker 2: and they were both full on both sides. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: had so many figures and I played with them a lot,
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  Speaker 2: so fortunately those did get a lot of use. I
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  Speaker 2: also had several of the Star Wars vehicles, like I
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  Speaker 2: had the Millennium Falcon. I never got the standard tie Fighter,
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  Speaker 2: but I had the Taie Interceptor from Return of the Jedi.
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  Speaker 2: I had a snow Speeder from Empire Strikes Back. I
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  Speaker 2: had an X Wing. Yeah, I had a job of
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  Speaker 2: the huts little placet with a trapdoor and stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: really thought those toys were great, and like it was
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  Speaker 2: proof of George Lucas having genius as far as marketing
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  Speaker 2: and merchandising ghos, right, Like, you can argue that the
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  Speaker 2: quality of the films went down after Empire, and I
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  Speaker 2: would not argue against that. I would say, you're right,
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  Speaker 2: But he sure as heck knew how to create creatures
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  Speaker 2: and characters that would appeal to kids who wanted the
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  Speaker 2: toy for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think maybe I'd talked about this on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast before, Like I have a friend who had it, who, like,
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  Speaker 1: in the last ten years, introduced their kid to Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars right because their kid was getting old enough for it,
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  Speaker 1: and they started with the prequels, which by the time
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  Speaker 1: they came out, you know, you and I weren't super
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  Speaker 1: big fans of them, but for a kid getting into
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars. They work really well despite the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they're all political and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The first one's about trade disputes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So you're right, very good at appealing to kids,
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  Speaker 1: and it's always so interesting because when I watch back now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I like, I enjoy Star Wars. I enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: the original trilogy, but I watch it now and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed that as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean that the stuff that was made
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  Speaker 2: for children when we were kids tended to be less
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  Speaker 2: dumbed down and saccharin than a lot of stuff that's
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  Speaker 2: made today. That's not to say that everyone who makes
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  Speaker 2: children's programming is into the same traps, but it is common.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you look at like I look at
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I watched as a kid that was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in some stuff that got like a g rating or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and it's got more edge than a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: that come out today that have maybe PG or even
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  Speaker 2: PG thirteen. So we were a little less precious, both
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  Speaker 2: for good and for bad. Like I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say the stuff made for us was just inherently better,
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  Speaker 2: because there was plenty of really terrible stuff made for
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  Speaker 2: kids too. When we were growing up, Like again, I
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  Speaker 2: collected he Man characters. That cartoon was just a commercial
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  Speaker 2: for toys. It had no redeeming quality.
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  Speaker 1: The new Kevin Smith he Man's cartoon Both Seasons is
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  Speaker 1: quite fun. We actually just recently sold off all of
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  Speaker 1: our so we have this room in our house called
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  Speaker 1: the Sometimes it's called the Closet of Broken Dreams and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it's called the Closet of Childhood dream I prefer
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  Speaker 1: the latter, And it's where we keep all of like
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  Speaker 1: our old toys and stuff like that, and old computers
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  Speaker 1: and things like. We still have a Commodore sixty four
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  Speaker 1: because it just has It's not mine, it's Tony's, but
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  Speaker 1: that model of computer has a lot of sentiment to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I met my very best friend and who
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  Speaker 1: I've known since I was too And so we have
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  Speaker 1: this closet. He recently just sold all he got all
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  Speaker 1: of his he Man he Men stuff, he Men he.
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  Speaker 2: Man's Masters of the Universe.
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  Speaker 1: He got all of his Masters of the Universe stuff
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  Speaker 1: down from Pittsburgh and decided that there were other people
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  Speaker 1: who would enjoy playing with it more, and so just
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  Speaker 1: leaving it in the closet.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of how I was too. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I guess I could go
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  Speaker 2: to the whole eBay thing, but honestly, like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: really have an interest in that. It's also a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work, you know, just making sure you've got the
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  Speaker 2: right addresses and everything, all the trips of the post all,
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  Speaker 2: it's all that kind of stuff. And I would rather
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  Speaker 2: like donate to like a second hand shop, especially one
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  Speaker 2: there's one in our area where the profits go to
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  Speaker 2: animal rescue centers. So I'm like, well, if I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: donate anything, it's going to be there. Yeah, so that
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  Speaker 2: I know that not only might someone else be able
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  Speaker 2: to find something that they want, like either want for
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  Speaker 2: themselves or want to give to someone else and bring
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  Speaker 2: joy to that person's life, but also the profits go
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  Speaker 2: to help animals. I'm like, that's a win win win.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah. I have gotten rid of some stuff,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't have any of my barbies anymore, but
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  Speaker 1: I still have several of my stuffed animals from when
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid, just for sentimentality. I've got my
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  Speaker 1: lego and the better blocks that used to like flex
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  Speaker 1: and bend and like you can put them in a circle.
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  Speaker 1: I have all of the big green cases of the
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  Speaker 1: National Geographic Animal Cards. I have all of those. Still,
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  Speaker 1: I have some cuties, I have my my little ponies,
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  Speaker 1: I have all of my legos. So I have a
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  Speaker 1: harder time letting go of that sentimental stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I had to clear out a lot of space
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  Speaker 2: for all the laboo boos.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, it's fine, it's it's I just we've seen
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  Speaker 1: it before with beanie babies, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and with Cabbage Patch Kids. I'm old enough
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  Speaker 2: to remember when that was a big thing. Or Tickle
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  Speaker 2: Me Elmo, Like yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean like Cabbage Patch Kids and tickle Me Elmo. You
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  Speaker 1: can still get and there's still fun toys. I mean
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  Speaker 1: like the collect the collectibility of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We Cotch Patch Kids for a while was kind
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  Speaker 2: of viewed as collectibles because each one was unique and
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  Speaker 2: came with its own adoption certificate and everything. So you
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  Speaker 2: couldn't really collect collect because the idea was that no
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  Speaker 2: two would be the same, right, But you could have
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  Speaker 2: a collection of Cabbage Patch Kids.
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  Speaker 1: You've been to cabbage Patch Land, USA or whatever it is, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: to watch a Cabbage Pats to be born.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Oh gosh, why can I not remember the
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  Speaker 2: name of this now It's General something. Yeah, it's in
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  Speaker 2: It's it's up in North Georgia. Yes, I have been there.
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  Speaker 1: It is grip Babyland General, Babyland General.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I was like I knew that General was in there.
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  Speaker 2: So my dad used to teach at true at McConnell College,
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  Speaker 2: which is in the same general area of Cleveland, Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: which is where Babyland General is. So I have been
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  Speaker 2: to Babyland General multiple times. Not as an adult. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know if it's still open, but as a
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  Speaker 2: kid I went several times.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it is. I was never big into cabbage
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  Speaker 1: patch again. It was more care Bears, Rainbow Bright glow Worms,
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  Speaker 1: sure Storks, Teddy Rouxman. I loved Teddy Roxman. Babyland General
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  Speaker 1: is still open.
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  Speaker 2: What do you know? I honestly I did not know that,
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  Speaker 2: But now I kind of want to organize a group trip,
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  Speaker 2: not to and I would not want us to be disruptive,
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  Speaker 2: but just to take in the spectacle and the catch, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like I am not one of those people who's like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's all let's all go and act up at this
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  Speaker 2: place that we clearly don't really have an interest in
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  Speaker 2: because there are people there who are actually trying to
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  Speaker 2: enjoy themselves. Don't be a jerk.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I don't know if it would
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: hold up, but it is really interesting.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think as I think as a fifty year
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: old adult, I'd be walking around going you know, this
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: just doesn't live up to my expectations anymore. Man.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm tripping on yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, tripping would be the right word. Yes, yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But let's let's move on. We've spent like twenty minutes
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: talking about this, haven't even gotten into the stuff we've
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: watched this last time.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: But we don't have a listener reach out to us
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and share some of their Christmas music. By the way,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I am finishing putting finishing touches on a Christmas playlist.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I'm putting on a Spotify because that's what I've got
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: access to. But I'll try to make a list in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: case that's not the listening tool you use as well
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of all of jonathan My favorite kind of geeky fun
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: holiday songs, and I'll add the ones that people share
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: with us as well. But our listener who wrote in
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and shared their favorite songs. Also said they loved our
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: bands so excellent. We're good, We're good good.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one person at least is gonna be okay
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: with it. All right, Well, let's talk about the stuff
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: we've watched. This is the last time we recorded. I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and go first because it's pretty quick.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So I watched a little bit more of Superstore, but
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I have to take that slowly because the cringe element
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of it is so high that it hits my threshold
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: pretty fast. I'm still enjoying it, Like all the performances
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: are great, but man, they'll further I go the cringe
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: er that show gets watched several episodes of Stumble, which
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: is that cheerleader show that we had talked about about,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: kind of done the style of the Officer Parks and rec.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I think that Stumble is a funny show. I think
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: the performances are great. I think it is incredibly rushed,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Like the first episode takes place over six weeks in
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: one like half hour episode. Yeah, and so a lot
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of stuff happens in that one episode where they essentially
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: have to skip forward, and like I'm sitting there thinking, wow,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen how this came about.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Like there's a whole thing where the main character needs
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: to put together a cheerleading squad of ten and on
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: the first time, first day of tryouts, only one person
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: shows up. But instead of showing like how they gradually build,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: it'll be like skipping ahead two weeks and now they've
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: got six people on the team or whatever, And I'm like,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: but I wanted to see how each of these quirky
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: people came about to join the team. That kind of thing.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So I get the feeling that it's because it's a
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: short season, so in order to get from the point
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: where they start to where they wanted to be at
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the end of that season, they needed to take a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: bunch of shortcuts. But to me, like, that's a strike
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: against the show. I still enjoy a lot of the jokes,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: which are corny and silly, and that's why I like
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: him so much. So I'm not yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, no,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I would say it's much better than that. I mean,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: one of the dumb jokes, and I've told you this already, Ariel,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: is that the college where the coach used to work
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: before she gets fired is named Sammy Davis Senior Junior
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: College and the head of the school. His last name
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: is Martin, so he's Dean Martin of Sammy Davis Senior
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Junior College. And every time they would just rattle off
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Sammy Davis Junior College, I chuckled. I'm a simple man,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: so I'm not saying that that's great humor. I'm saying
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: it works for me. But anyway, I enjoy it. So
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I haven't finished the episodes that have already been launched,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: but the ones I've seen I've liked. And then I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: watched the first episode of Fallout season two, which I
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: also really enjoyed, but I'm not going to talk about
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: because I don't want to.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Give spoilers and not watched it yet.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: So I very much liked it, and I watched. I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: am one episode behind on plural Us, so you are
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: one episode ahead of me. But I did watch because
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: we're recording today on a Monday, because we had other
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: stuff going on at the end of the week, but
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: we didn't want to go too long without the episode,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and because of the holidays, it's really kind of making
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: things a little more complicated.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: You. So the last episode you saw, I had the Jungle.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the cap.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That was the last episode I saw was the Gap.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. I also watched Ploribus, so I did watch one
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: episode ahead. It is so you didn't watch a lot.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: We talked about this, and I'm sorry, I have been
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: running on a little sleep. I baked two hundred and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like sixty cookies over a day and a half.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was supposed some of those days she didn't
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: have a working oven.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Well that's the problem is it was supposed to be
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: over like three days and I didn't have a working oven.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And then I had to go get an oven Thursday morning,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: bring it into my house, install it, move the other
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of an out of fence are heavy, you guys to
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: bring up steps when you've got a bad back, especially,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And then I had to bake all the cookies between
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday so I could get them in the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: mail Saturday, so that like the people who like Tony
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: has several family members that we give them a big
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: batch of cookies for like their holiday parties, and we
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: do that whether we go to Pittsburgh or not. So
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that they got him in
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: time for Chris in Christmas Eve. So Saturday was like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the end all be all deadline, so my brain is
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: not fully here. But like in Lost, the first nine
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: episodes deal with the people who have crashed on the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: island and surviving on an island as a plane crash victim, right,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and then on the tenth episode, things get weird and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: interesting to me, Like the tenth episode is where things
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: really pick up. Porbus has been picking up all along.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Like the first episode was super interesting to me. The
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: second and third I had some friends who felt like
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it the plot didn't move quite enough for them, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I can see that. Though I quite enjoyed it, this
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: episode felt different in a good way, like it still
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: had the same vibe. It was still the same show.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like they took a hard left turn, but
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it definitely felt really cool and intriguing to me. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: don't want to oversell it because I don't want you
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: to be super excited for it, Jonathan and then to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is poop, But.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, like it's so it's on my list,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and you know, this is a show I watch with Becca,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: so I have to wait till we're both available and awake,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and it's hard to do because she has she has
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: late hours, so we just haven't had the time to
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: do it. But that's on my list. There's also Red
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Letter Media's Christmas Best of the Worst came out over
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the weekend, so that's on my list too. I love
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I love their Christmas episodes. They're always insane. I mean,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: not usually not as crazy as their Halloween episodes, because
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that's when, at least in the past twice people got
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: black out drunk. But the but the Christmas ones, they
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: usually have a gimmick like they'll have a whole bunch
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of different movies wrapped up and it'll either be a
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Christmas movie or something else. So like one year it
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: was Christmas or meaning that Canon pictures, so like Chuck
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Norris movies and all these like schlocky action films of
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: the eighties and early nineties were possible options. Or you
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: might get a really bad Christmas movie. Another one was
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Christmas or cats, one was Christmas or Crocodiles, or one
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: was kickmus or it was either going to be a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Christmas movie or a movie that on the cover has
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: someone kicking on it nice nice and they're like, oh,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: so it could be a kung Fu movie, or it
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: could be the Rockets.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I also watched mighty nine more of it, still way
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: behind on it, but I'm enjoying it more Task Master
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: New Zealand. Again, this is just it's been such a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: crazy year and especially a crazy last quarter. So like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: being able to just put on something dumb that is
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: both entertaining and new and doesn't take too much brain
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: power has been kind of our our go to.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I did watch Wake Up dead Man.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: What did you think?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed it. I was really impressed that I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: couldn't guess the plot.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: How it happened. Yeah, so you surprised? Were you surprised
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: at how long it took for Blanc to be part
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: of the story.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: No, because you told me it took him like a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: good portion of the movie and then all of a sudden,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: IM like, oh, he's already here. I was expecting him
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to come in much further because of what you had said.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: But I really I thought all of the performances were stellar.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: You know, it is it is a a movie that
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: deals with It takes place in a church, so a parish,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: so you know that can go a few ways, but
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I thought it they handled that topic very well.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I thought they were very respectful.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like so you know, as a person of faith,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: they there was a line in the movie. Sorry I'm
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: not going to get preachy here, but there was a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: line in the movie where someone's like, well, we need
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to we need to condemn the wicked or whatever and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and bring him to justice. And then the lead character, Judd,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: who's this guy who used to be like a fighter
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and is now a priest, is like, no, we need
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to serve the wicked and bring them to mercy. And
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: like so that kind of encapsulates a whole lot of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: what I feel, and you know, what my faith is about.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And going in, like, I fully expected it to completely
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: pan stuff, and you know, I just I just if
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I anticipate that, then it's not a shock, you know.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was handled very respectfully.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean specifically, you know, you know, Blanc is
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: an atheist, so and since he is like the smartest
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: man in whatever room he goes into, you figure, oh,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: so the whole movie is going to be saying his
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: point of view is the right one, right, Like, you
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: just assume that the movie is going to send you
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the message of whatever anyone else believes. Blanc is the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: one who's right. But this movie takes the issue of
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: faith in a very different direction, and Blanc himself sort
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: of washes his hands and backs out of that entire
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: conversation out of respect and like, to me, the moment
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: where Blanc makes that decision was probably the most powerful
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: moment in the movie.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It was really cool. It was really cool, and I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: think like it's a very regardless of if you believe
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: in a god or God's or whatever or not, a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: greater power in the universe, Like it isn't that this
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: movie actually had an important message, which is you have
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to love the other people around you. You have to.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it just felt it felt like treat
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: people with mercy and grace because you don't know where
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: they're coming from, and maybe you can help them.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I thought, to me,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: this one comes up probably right after Knives Out. I
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: still think Knives Out is my favorite of the three,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: but that largely is because of the joy of discovery.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the first time you get to see
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Blanc and see him in action, and so by the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: time you get to wake Up Dead Man, you kind
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of know Blanc's approach and it doesn't make it less good.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: But you know you're not discovering it, you already know it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And I thought the performances were all great. I thought
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the mystery itself was fun.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I thought everybody's motive was believable.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I thought the explanation for what happened with the mystery.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Not to give spoilers, but I thought the explanation made sense,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: which yeah, which I can't always say for like, Glass
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Onions still feels a bit like like it depends very
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: heavily on coincidence, whereas Knives Out and Wake Up dead
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Man both feel more grounded to me.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean glass Onion was ridiculous. I mean
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it's it's also harder to like relate to an island
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: full of rich people for me personally.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, same. I Also I also am not rich, So.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Not that people who are rich or unrelatable, but like
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: those are circumstances that I haven't outside of, I haven't
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: encountered outside of like daydreaming or role playing maybe like yeah,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So to to the to the point where like I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: was getting the cast of glass Onion and don't blink,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: uh mixed up, which don't blink was the Channing Tatum
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: one about a bunch of people going to a rich
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: guy's island.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Right, right right, I haven't seen that one. Did you
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: actually watch that or you just mix it up from
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the trailer.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I just mixed it up from the trailer because it
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: felt so similar from the trailer to me. And like
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, Channing Tatum was in Glass Idiot. No
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he wasn't. That was Ed Norton.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: But like, yeah, but I can see how because again,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: like you say, it's they both involve plots where a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: rich person is bringing people to a private island and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: nefarious things happen, like that's yeah, that's the end. So
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I could totally see how. And they both came out
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in pretty close proximity to each other, like, you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: within a year or so, so I can totally As
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: someone who mixes up names constantly, I totally get where
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you're coming from.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But I just I thought this was a really
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: strong It wasn't the one I was most excited for,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: but I very much enjoyed it. I just thought it
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: was a very well written movie. And then while I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: was baking cookies, I watched a whole bunch of Christmas stuff.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So when I put up my Christmas tree, I watched Scrooge,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and then over the course of my baking cookies, I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: watched National Lampoon. I watched em Otter's Jug Band Christmas.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I watched Charlie Brown Christmas, and then like the auto play,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: put on Red One, which is fine. I enjoyed that
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: movie last year, and I enjoyed it again this year,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and then it put on It's a Very Merry Muppet
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Christmas two thousand and two, which I had never seen before.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Is that the one with the letter to Santa One?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's Whoopi Goldberg. I think plays God.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I've seen this one.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: It's it's kind of It's a Wonderful Life m because
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I think Kermit says it would be better if the
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: theater is going under. They owe Joe and Cusack a
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: bunch of money, and she wants it on Christmas Eve,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and at one point, like Kermit keeps trying to fix
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: it and feels like everything keeps swalling apart, He's like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: they just be better without me, And so they get
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to go around and see what life would be like
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: for everyone without him, and David Arquette plays like his
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Little Angel who his little Francis Clarence Clarence, Thank you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Francis Clarence. But it was weird. At one point, Scooter
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: was cage dancing and I had no idea what was happening.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I have not seen this, and I'm not entirely convinced
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: it's real and that you didn't just have a cookie
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: stress induced hallucination.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you, but I did look it up.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, I watched the Fraggle Christmas one. We
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: talked about that one previously, and that was cute, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I've watched There are a couple of other Muppet Christmas specials,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: like there's one where there was one with John Denver
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: way back in the day that I loved as a child,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and then there was one where the gimmick is all
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the muppets are visiting Fozzy's mother's house, but Fozzie didn't
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: tell his mom and she's getting ready to go on
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: a tropical vacation. She's like, ah, I got a Christmas
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: to myself. I'm going to go. I'll spend it on
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: an island. And then all these muppets show up and
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: crash at her place, and so her plans are completely
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you know, waylaid. But that one's really cute too. And
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: then there was there's one that's about a letter to
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Santa that takes place like it starts off in a
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: post office or something. And I tried watching it, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: as much as I love the Muppets, I got maybe
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: seven or eight minutes into it and then I just bailed.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I dare you to try this one.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: This one sounds like a fever dream.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: It is a fever dream, you know, still on my list?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Or Gremlins fantastic movie. Not a Christmas movie. I mean
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: it happens at Christmas.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: It happens at Christmas, and it starts off with baby,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Please Come Home. So we might try A Big Christmas
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: which came out a couple of years ago but we
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: never watched. And then if I'm feeling really dumb, I
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: might try Dear Santa, which is the one where it
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: with Jack Black, where kid writes a letter to Santa
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: but misspells it to Satan.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I've heard that that's terrible though.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe I won't try that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Like, I've just heard lots of negative things, like not
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: even like terrible in a way that's entertaining, is what
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I've heard. But I say that as someone who has
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: not seen it, so.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I conceptually, conceptually, I find it amusing.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I think today, in our discussion of some
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of the stuff we're going to talk about, I think
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: there's at least one instance of a movie that, in
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: my opinion, is probably one of those that's best as
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: a concept, but that once it exists, people don't care
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: about it anymore. I' lah, Snakes on a Plane. Like
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: that's the perfect example, right, Everyone wanted Snakes on a
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Plane to exist. No one cared once it did because
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: it flopped.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, although it gave us some wonderful music.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did watch that movie, but me too. You
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: know again, I was like one of the few because
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: it was one of those things where everyone's like, oh,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: of course this should exist. No, I'm not gonna bother
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to actually watch it. Now.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I kind of checked out when there was a snake
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: on a Snake on a plane.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I got you, I know what you're talking about.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yep. That's when I checked out in that movie. But
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I still love the I'm.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Gonna leave that comment in its somewhat ambiguous place and
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: move on to thirty seconds or less. Sound good to you?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Sounds perfect?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, I believe I start? Am? I correct? Yes, okay,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: here we go. In the ongoing battle over who gets
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: to buy Warner Brothers Discovery, the wb D board officially
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: rejected Paramount's hostile takeover bid for the company. Now, Warner
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Brothers had already signed on to be Netflix's dance partner,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: and some analysts believe Warner Brothers rejected the Paramount bid
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: in order to push Paramount to make an even larger offer,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: which is understandable since if Warner Brothers does pull out
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: of the deal with Netflix, they will owe two point
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: eight billion dollars.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Whoof Okay, we have so Man of Tomorrow, which is
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the second Superman movie by James Gunn, is slated to
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: start filming in January in Atlanta, boop, and they have
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: just cast their brainiac. Lars Eidinger, will be playing Brainiac
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: in Man of Tomorrow. He has done a bunch of
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: stuff I haven't seen, including Babylon, Berlin, All the Light
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: We Cannot See and White Noise.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's great because I don't think he's
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: that well known in the US, which is almost like
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: casting an unknown for your film, and I much prefer
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that then watching a movie where the whole time I'm like, Wow,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that's Willem Dafoe all right.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Anyway, he looks kind of like, I can't remember the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: after's name, Sean Austin Green or Austin Sean Green or
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: something like that. Scot No, no, no, okay.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Well, but hasn't shared any concrete plans for Fallout five.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Development chief Todd Howard did say that the events of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Fallout the television series will be considered canon in game
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: War Movie forward, but he also said they don't know
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: where or when that game will actually take place, and
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: seeing how that seems to be fundamental information, I would
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: guess we're at least several years away from the next game.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: As kag Elephant wants, saying, there ain't no rest for
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the upstanding and right now this just we got, apparently
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: spoilers that Captain America's specifically Chris Evans as Captain America
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: is returning to Avengers Doomsday. I wanted to let them,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I wanted them to let him just retire. I thought
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: he wasn't coming back. I'm sad about it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I'll give you my theory about Doomsday once thirty seconds
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: or less is done if you remind me. All right, Okay,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: since we're in the realm of comic books, Archie is
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: getting another refresh. Archie Comics will partner with Onny Press
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: to release monthly comics in late twenty twenty six following
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the continuing adventures of Archie's Gang, plus Sabrina, the Teenage Witch,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Josie and the Pussycats, and more. Indie comic writers artists
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: will contribute, and one of the titles is Archie in Hell.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: So this should be pretty darn While.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Beauty in the Beast is doing their guest on live
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: action spinoff, which this is one of those villains that
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Jonathan and I both agree does not need an origin
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: story necessarily. I don't even think he's a character in
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the original Beauty and the Beast. He's a Disney original.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: It is being the latest draft is being written by
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Dave Callahan. Yeah that's it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, That's all it deserves in my opinion. Well,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: way back in June twenty twenty four, I mentioned a
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: developing spinoff of the Meghan sci fi horror series. This
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: one was called soul Mate, with the number eight in
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: there and it would be about a grieving man who
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: gets a companion android before things go wrong. Universal had
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: slated the film for release on January ninth of twenty
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: twenty six, but after the box office failure of Megan
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: two point zero, it appears the studio has lost all
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: confidence and has pulled the film, shopping it to other distributors. Ouch. H,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: we are.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Getting a lot boo boo movie. I believe that Paul
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: King is going to be directing it. He has previously
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: done Wonko, which I finally watched over the holidays over
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and it was okay. It was better than I anticipated,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't good, and Paddington, which is phenomenal, So
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what this movie will fall. He
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: is producing it with Department n M and WEX and
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: she and the only reason I think this is interesting
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: is because the late Ladder did Wish Dragon in a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, which feels right on point,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and the former did the Hand that Rocks the Cradle remake.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Wow. On February fourth, it'll be time to play the music.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: It'll be time to light the lights, because Disney Plus
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: will unveil a new The Muppet Show event special with
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: very special guest star Sabrina Carpenter. Yay. The show will
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: debut on The Muppet Show's fiftieth anniversary. And as someone
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: who watched the original series when it was on TV,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: all I can say is whoof, I'm.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Gonna have to get distant plus again, I guess to
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: watch that anyhow. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that hits you
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: in the fields. Last Samurai Comic Standing has been renewed.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: It's not a comedic show. Last Samurai Standing has been
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: renewed for a season two it Netflix. That's pretty cool.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched the first season. I really want to,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: but it takes a brain power to watch a show
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: with subtitles, and I don't know if it's dubbed.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the Battle Royale style samurai movie or series
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that came out well back in two thousand and seven,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Brian Fuller's creative and quirky series Pushing Daisies hit television screens.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: In that series, a sweet natured purveyor of pies has
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the magical ability to bring the dead back to life.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: But if a reanimated person is alive for more than
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a minute, some other life will extinguish to keep the balance. Also,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: there was singing in it. Anyway. It only lasted two seasons,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: but Fuller has recently said there are hopes for a
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: long delayed season three. I sure hope it happens.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: That's really cool. Remember like a few episodes ago, a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: handful of episodes ago, when you asked me what I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: would like to be turned into a Broadway play, a
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Broadway musical pushing Daisies, that would be good. Yep, Last
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: in the thirty Seconds or Last Sony, which already had
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: a share of Charlie Brown, has bought a lot more
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of Charlie Brown, to the tune of four hundred and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: sixty million dollars. That got them a forty one percent steak, which,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: including with their already owned steak in the property in
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the Peanuts property, get put them up to eighty percent,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: with the Schultz family owning twenty percent. Hope they treat
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: it right. Please don't more be a my snoopy.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just amazed that they spent nearly half a billion
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: dollars because I thought you could get it for peanuts.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your write up of Sody pays way more
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: than peanuts for Peanuts was pretty brilliant. I meant to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: mention it, but I really like the Peanuts I yeah, yeah, I.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Mean like a lot of the Charlie Brown. I read
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: the comic strip, but a lot of the Charlie Brown
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: specials are in my favorites too, Like I Charlie Brown
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Christmas is always going to be a classic, Like that's
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: just and Charlie Brown, Halloween, the Great Pumpkin. It's the
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, that one. Even the musical You're
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: a Good Man Charlie Brown is I still love that musical. Yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: it's I've got a soft spot in my heart for
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: the Peanuts property. All right, you want to hear my
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Avengers doomsday?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Gary, I had my fingers quat crossed to remember, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I was going to completely forget.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: So yes, okay, So have you seen Fantastic four?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: So you saw the stinger at the end of Fantastic four, Yes,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: which was not a surprise. There's going to be some
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: spoilers here, folks, So if you have not seen Fantastic four,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you might want to skip ahead, like a minute or two. Okay,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: So at the end of Fantastic four you get a
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: little shot where the Fantastic Four coming to their big
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: apartment area and they see that a Doctor Doom is
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: bent over the crib of Franklin, the baby of Sue
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and Reed Richards, and that's it, Like it's just a
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: it's a tease for Doctor Doom. And so in the
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: teaser that was shown before Ash and Fire Avatar ashen Fire,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you get a look at Chris Evans on a it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: like a motorcycle. Chris Evans is on it. He comes
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: inside this house. The same house is at the end
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: of Avengers End Game where they have the memorial for
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Tony Stark and he looks at his do it here?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I think, oh, never mind.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: He look says costume, but he closes it in a
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: chest so he's not picking it up, and then turns
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: around he picks up a babe. So you've got a
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: baby with Captain America. He got a baby with a
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Fantastic Four. You saw she Hulk, right, Yes, Hulk's got
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: a son.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: You've got two kids of Wanda's.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Running around young Avengers.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: No, no, Doctor Doom's going to be stealing hero babies.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, that might be possible. They also probably are setting
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: up for Planet Hulk and Young Avengers.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, further down the road. But but first, hero babies.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna have us. It's gonna have a circus
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: train full of hero babies, babies. It's gonna be a
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: reference a direct reference to Batman Returns where the Piguin
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: has all the babies in the in the circus cages.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: It's gonna we're gonna see doctor.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's also a great Christmas movie.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: That's true. It does take place during Christmas. Also got
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Christopher walking and that is a great character.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Christmas Christmas for walking. No, that is a very I
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: hope that happens, because that would be hilarious, especially if
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: they do like a look who's talking to kind of
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: a I.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Have a feeling hero babies are gonna take a be
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: part of it. I don't know for what to what end. Honestly,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I hope that's I hope I'm totally wrong about that theory.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I hope i am, because I don't feel that that's
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: big enough. Well, it needs to be like a threat
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: to people beyond just the heroes.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Well, also, several of those are not babies, so like
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Wanda's kids are not babies.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: That's true, not a bibit.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was hoping that you were going to say,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and then you were like, oh, and then he saw
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: his uniform, his costume, whatever it is, his out of it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It was like, oh, he's not really Captain America. He's
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: actually the Flame, the Flat, He's Johnny Storm of the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Human the Human Torch.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: He would he would most likely be no mad in
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: this if he was going to take up a hero
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: thing again, because that's what Steve Rogers did. Also, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: forgot four adopted a daughter in the last Thor movie.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like, lots of these Avengers characters
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: have kids now.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are setting up young Avengers and Kate
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Bishop is going to lead them.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: All, so I'm assuming they're still doing that. I don't know.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I honestly don't know where Marvel is going at this
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: point because I don't know. It feels to me like
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: they've lost a lot of their confidence. And part of
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: that is because like their plans got totally put sideways
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: with the whole Kang thing, Like, yeah, that was a
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: big issue. But another part, honestly, I think a big
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: part of it is that when they were building it,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the first time, Like originally with Iron Man and the
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Hulk and Captain America. When they were building it the
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: first time, it was not yet a huge success, and
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: they were taking their time and building up these characters
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and introducing them and giving them traits and letting the
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: audience know who these people are. Then those get really successful,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: you start getting the team movies, all that works great,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Then you essentially have disbanded the team at the end
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: of Avengers Endgame. What really needed to happen, I think
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: is essentially a repeat of what they had done to
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: begin with. But I felt like they were kind of
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: taking the shortcut with characters and stuff and just saying like, well,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: you loved everything else, you're gonna love this too. They didn't. Yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like they took the right steps, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: the ones that they did try and do just didn't
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: work for me. Like the Eternals just did not work
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: for me, even though like some of the elements of
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the Eternals still play out in the movies that follow up,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: like the last Captain America movie, the What If.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I liked that what If episode.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was mostly thinking of Captain America because
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: they had the celestial that had turned the stone in
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the ocean.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: It's hard to it's hard to ignore that. I you know,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I I'm glad that they're taking their time. I understand
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: that they've lost some of their confidence. I mean, even
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: when they were building up with the King before all that,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: before they let that actor go, they were still kind
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: of whiffin though. Because thor Love and Thunder didn't get
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: great reviews, the Multiverse of Madness didn't get great reviews.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Ant Man Quantum Mania did not get great reviews. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: watched them all. They were all enjoyable, but they definitely
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: were on the weaker side of the Marvel universe.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And I thought She Hulk was too just because they
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: made the episodes too short.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I think I don't think all the
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: series are great, like all the streaming series are great,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: but I think the great ones are better than the movies.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Post end game, like I think, you know, WandaVision is
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: better than any of the film's post end game. I
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: think Hawkeye is probably as good as the best post
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: end game.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I really like She Hulk. I know that's a divisive one,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: but I really liked it.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I liked it again, they just kept ending in a
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: place where it it felt too short and they felt
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: like not good cliffhangers for each episode.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I was okay with it, but I also you know,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I thought Falcon and the Winter Soldier ended pretty well,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: but I felt it was a fairly weak arc, and
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like it was explained well enough, Like
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I understood what was going on kind of, but I
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: felt like you needed to have a little bit more
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: reflection about what would happen to the world if half
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of its population just disappeared instantly, and like this whole
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: idea of people like, now there's enough space for everybody
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: who's left behind, but then what happens when those people
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: come back? You know? And then you know, there was
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of it was dealing with something pretty complicated
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: and also kind of relevant to certain areas of the world,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: but it was so light touch with it. It didn't
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: say anything interesting. Really.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Secret Invasion was a big miss.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't even I watched the beginning of it, Like
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: the very first part of the first episode I thought
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: was promising, but I didn't. I never watched beyond that
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: because it was just one of those things where I
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: had to stop for some reason and I never went back,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: and then everything I heard about it was negative.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I watched two episodes and had no interest in more.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I was just I can't care Echo. I really love
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the character. I feel like the series was I don't
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: know if written poorly is wrong, maybe disjointed or paced
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: poorly for what it was like, the pacing was weird.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed Moonnight. I know I'm in the less group.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I liked Moonnight a lot. Yeah, but I also felt
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: like that's going to be a one off that never
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: comes back, and.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: The new Daredevil series is fantastic.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: See, I have to I still have to watch all
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: the old stuff first, because I never I never watched
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: all the seasons of The Daredevil plus all the Defenders ones.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So you need to watch the first season of Daredevil,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the first season of Jessica Jones. Although Jessica Jones gets
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: pretty upsetting.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I have seen that one.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I have seen that one, the first season of Luke Cage,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the last the last five minutes of the second season
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: of Iron Fist, the last five minutes I've said this before,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: the last five minutes of the second season were what
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I wanted out of that show and then it ended.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: But it's not gonna tell me who he is.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: You don't really need to know.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: He's a guy who punches stuff hard.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: And the Defenders is okay, Like, yeah, the Daredevil series
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: does kind of pick up where Dary Devil left off.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: What about The Punisher? You left off the Punisher.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I watched the season of that, I didn't watch the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: second season, and I was completely able to follow what
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: happened in the New Daredevil without having watched the second
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: season of Punisher. And I really like John Barenthal.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: But it just.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: The second season. I don't know, it was just it
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: just didn't straight me.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because you weren't on set. If you've been
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: once that, you've been struck a lot of.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Times, why you got to rub it in, Jonathan.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I just know it's a very violent show as all.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I was just make a good joke about violence.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: No, it's true. Until I get my back fixed, I
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't do too heavy of stunts.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I would recommend against it. Well, we got tons of
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: stuff to talk about. We're almost up to an hour
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: all around. How about we're going to be a week episode? Yeah,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: and we're going to be like, I don't know if
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: we're going to be able to record. I should be
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: able to record. I think it's January twod is the Friday. Yeah,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I should be able to record then. But all right,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: let's let's talk about stuff what we shouldn't talk about,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: but we're gonna do it anyway. That's what we call
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: this section.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the first is for a movie called Breakdown
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: It's really more of a documentary series.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, documentary series. I So I wasn't alive in nineteen
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: seventy five, so that was the view.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: But then right, oh my gosh, okay, let me take over.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: So I was born in nineteen seventy five.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I did watch the trailer.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is it's a documentary that's about the
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: film industry in the mid seventies. It's honestly, it's not
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: just about nineteen seventy five, because they mentioned a couple
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: of movies that weren't released until seventy six. So that's
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: on you, documentary, But it's about how the film industry
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: was changing in the seventies. You started to get these
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: filmmaker tours. You also got the birth of the blockbuster
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: because Jaws was like the first big summer blockbuster came
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: out the same week I did. And then but you
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: had lots of other movies like One Flew Over the
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Cuckoo's Nest Tommy, like the film movie version of The
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Who's album. Barry Lindon The Man Who Would Be King
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: came out in seventy five. The Rocky Horror Picture Show
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: came out in nineteen seventy five. So this is a
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: documentary where you have a lot of talking heads, folks
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: that are like filmmakers, actors, comedians. Patton Oswald is one
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: of them who are seth rogen. Yeah, they're commenting on
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: the time, the political culture, all that kind of stuff,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: as well as what was going on in film. I
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: read a review about this and it sounds like Decider
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Road a review and on Decider, whomever it was that
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: wrote the review, I should have written down their name.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I apologize for that. But their biggest criticism was that
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: they don't really spend a lot of time on any
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: one talking point. It's one of those things where you're
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: hit by a lot of different stuff one after the other,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: so you get a lot of information, but it's pretty shallow.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: They're not diving deep, but they still said it's worth watching.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Just don't expect it to be like super insightful. It
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: might be more like, oh, here's a conversation starter or
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: something where you see something and you're like, oh, I
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: want to learn more about that. But you know, I
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: had to put it in here because it was it's
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: about nineteen seventy five. It's my birth year, and I
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: do think that films in the nineteen seventies took a
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: pretty big change. Like that was you know, you're talking
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: about the death of the studio system, which had been
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: dying for like a decade at that point, and this
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: idea of filmmakers who had a vision and were able
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: to execute it. That was a big thing. So I'm
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: interested in it. I have not yet watched it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I want to watch it too, because the topic is
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: important to me, even though I've not seen many of
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: those movies. I've never seen one that flew over the
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Cuckoo's nest.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: You've seen Jaws.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I have seen Jaws.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Had you watch it?
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I've seen Rocky Horror Picture Show. Yeah, it is. It
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: is interesting to see the way that life shapesy in
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the film and entertainment industry. And vice versa. It's just
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting. So yeah, I think it'll be one
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: of those things that I'll run across when I have
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: no time to be like, oh yeah, I wanted to
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: watch that, unlike the next thing, which I absolutely want
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: to watch, which is a biopic called Jimmy about Jimmy Stewart.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had to put this in for a friend
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: of the show, Shay Lee, because she's a huge Jimmy Stewart. Stan.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I watched this and kJ Appa is playing young Jimmy Stewart,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: specifically around the time of World War Two, where Jimmy
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Stewart is determined to enlist in the armed forces even
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: as people within the entertainment industry are calling for him
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: not to do that. Uh so, yeah, I want to
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: hear more about your your take on this because I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: don't want to I don't want to influence your your thoughts.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Uh. Just uh kJ Appa is uh he plays I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: think rich Archie in Riverdale.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Oh Diddy, maybe, Yeah, he plays Archie. I never watched Riverdale,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: so I am blissfully ignorant of that.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So he played Archie in Riverdale. So if you're
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: a CW geek, that's where you would know him from.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: So like, I I enjoy some Jimmy, you know, I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: enjoy Harvey. I enjoy it's a wonderful life stuff like that, Right.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: That's that's I think kJ Appa in the trailer does
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: a very good job of playing him. I I like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: there was there was a moment in the in the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: trailer where you know, everybody's trying to tell Jimmy not
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: to go to war, and he's like, but I play
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: these roles all the time, and I want to actually
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: do some good. That I just thought thought was really
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: moving and that's what made me want to see it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, I so I have a different opinion
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: or a different It hit me differently, but I'm happy
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: to hear that that's how you feel for me. I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: felt that it was a little more schmaltzy, a little
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: more saccharine, a little heavy handed. Now it is true,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Stewart did enlist in the armed Forces. He ended
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: up serving in the Air Corps. He uh was he
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: had to he had to go to great links to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: get to a point where he would be put on
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: the front lines because uh and he was really worried
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: that his celebrity was going to mean that they would
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: constantly just put him in like desk jobs or something
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: where he would never make any impact. And he went
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: to great links to get promoted to a point where
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: he had to be as put into action and he
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: flew several missions during World War Two, So he really
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: was determined to help serve for his country. He came
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: from a military family, so he saw it as a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: real you know, like an honor and a privilege and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: an obligation to some extent to do this. So all
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: of that is true. And like the the feel I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: get from the preview is that everyone's like trying to say, hey,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: you provide a great service. You end up bringing joy
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: to people and they need that in this time, and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: you're a source of entertainment and that's that's something that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: we can't dismiss, like that kind of thing. Whereas I'm thinking, like, no,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: those studio guys are going to go like money, you
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: make us money and.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: They're going to couch it in something more.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't like the trailer makes it come
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: across like that. That feels like that's supposed to be
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: the messaging all the way down, And I'm like, no,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I'm way too cynical. This is not working on me.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: This is one of those Christmas specials where they try
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: too hard and they lose me. So that's sort of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: my feel for it now that I'm glad to hear
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: it hits differently for you, because I think that's important.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: I think there should be people who really do take
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: this and they see it as something that will be
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: uplifting and informative and entertaining. I just it doesn't work
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: on me because I'm I have a heart of coal.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, you know, It's just
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I I didn't I honestly didn't know that Jimmy Steart
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: served in the military.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: He eventually he eventually reached the rank of brigadier general.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't know that much about him. I know
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed his acting. I think that's really cool.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like Bob Ross, you.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, or or sometimes apocryphal stories about Fred Rogers.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who did a lot of good. It was a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: really great guy.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but not a sniper. Yeah. Jimmy Stewart. This
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: this biopic of Jimmy Stewart, Jimmy comes out November sixth
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: of next year. So maybe we'll see another trailer and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I'll change my mind about my reaction here, But right
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: now I'm leaning toward, Uh, this looks a little too
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: sugarcoated for me, but again, I'm a cynical jerk.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got you. I mean I also was wondering if
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: it might have been because it's you know, it's definitely
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: playing the period piece, so it's got that very fifties
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: kind of black and white movie kind of The next
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: trailer we've got is for Normal. We're talking a lot
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: about these movies What not fit.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what not Fit do?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: But that's okay. Normal is uh far Fargo but with Bob.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Odenkirk, Yeah, or Nobody, but Bob Odenkirk is a sheriff
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: instead of a former like Black Ops, auditor.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Like Fargo, and Nobody had a baby.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, the team behind this is the same
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: team that did Nobody. In fact, this was a story
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: that I think they had started to put together before
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: the Nobody movies, and then the success of Nobody and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Nobody Too gave them the chance to be able to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: make this. But Bob Odenkirk plays a character named Ulysses,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: who is the interim sheriff. He's brought into normal Minnesota
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: and he discovers that they're the sleepy little town is
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: actually a hot bed for crime and apparently explosions.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels very same old you see, I'm amused
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: by it, but it feels very same same to me.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I'm amused by it because I'm still wondering who decided
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Bob Odenkirk should be the action movie star it is.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: But then I probably I felt the same way about
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Bruce Willis when die Hard first.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Came out, So I mean, yeah, I guess so like
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: die Hard was kind of my introduction to Bruce Willis.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I hadn't really Oh, I was a big Moonlighting fan,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: so I was thinking of him for the moon Lighting day.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, Honeymooner's I've never watched like
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: I have watched moonlight Lighting, but I don't think it
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: registered in my brain.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Well sure, if you weren't like a regular viewer or anything.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think Bob Odenkirk probably is like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I want to do action movies, and he's built up
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: enough of a reputation and uh a network in Hollywood
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: that would be my guess. I don't know, because he's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: also a good actor. I think, like better calls freaking.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I think I think he's a great I think he's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: a great actor. It's and he doesn't like in this trailer.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: It's not like he looks like he's Superman, right. He
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's just undefeatable or anything like that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: So I don't think of it as like a vanity project.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: You know, there's I mentioned Red Letter Media earlier. They
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: have this theory called the blank the black tank top theory,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: which is where you get someone who ends up being
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: like the writer, director, star of a low budget action movie,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: and they're always wearing a black tank top and they
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: make themselves out to be like the most capable, sexy,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: powerful character, right, and it's all just sort of juvenile
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: male power fantasy turned into a movie. I don't think
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: that's what Odin Kirk's doing. He doesn't come across like
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: that to me. This movie comes out April seventeenth, and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you the bit that makes me the most
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: excited is Henry Winkler plays the mayor.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is I mean the bit that made me
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: most excited by nobody was Christopher Lloyd playing like.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: The slash Grandpa.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I totally get that. I love Henry Winkler.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: He's so good.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, such a good actor, seems like it seems like
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: a super nice guy too.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. The next thing we've got is
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: a trailer for Ponies.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Yep, it's a series.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: It's not about horse girls.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: No, it is a series on peacock ponies. It's it's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: the pluralization of p O n I, which stands for
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: a person of no interest.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Is that like an actual term?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Well, po I is usually place of interest or person
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: of interest. I've never heard pony before. That was the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: first time I heard. Because you wouldn't use a name
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: for something you don't care about.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was asking. So the story is, uh,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: it's Amelia.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Clark and Hayley lou Richardson, Yes.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Our wives of agents who both presumably die in Moscow
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: in Russia, in Moscow. Yeah, and so the wives want
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: to take up the mantle and I wiltrate the KGB.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to investigate their respective husband's deaths. This
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: is also a period piece. It takes place in nineteen
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: seventy seven. It comes out January fifteenth, And I thought,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I thought it looked it looks entertaining, like there's I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: don't think of it as a comedy, but there is
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of humor in the trailer.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it looks interesting and fun. I will
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: give it a shot if I have Peacock at that time. Yes,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like the next.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Trailer, Oh, this was the one I was most excited about. Really, Yeah,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: this looks amazing.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, I can't tell if you're being genuine or not.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's going to be a rate movie,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: but I do think, like when I saw this trailer,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: I thought this might be the closest thing I have
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: seen to like performance art in film form in a
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: long time. It is super high concept, absurd, weird. And
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: it is a film titled by Design, b Why Design,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: And it stars Juliet Lewis, who plays a woman who
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: switches bodies with a chair.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: And everybody likes her better as a chair.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: And I mean, like, I get, I get what they're
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: saying about about how how women are perceived, right, but
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: it's so weird.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Juliet Lewis, while into a showroom, sees a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: chair thinks that she wants to buy that chair, but
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: then she somehow does a body swap where she is
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: the chair and the chair is her, so she her
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: body is now no longer walking around. It's just kind
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: of motionless. It's just sort of in her apartment, you know,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: bent over the bed, and that's where you know, the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: people in her life encounter her body and seem to
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: like her more this way than she was when she
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: was herself. And meanwhile, she her consciousness is embodied within
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: a chair that is subsequently purchased by a man who
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: becomes increasingly enamored of the chair. And it comes out
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: on February thirteenth, I actually have the here's the the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: log line that I took. I copied and pasted it directly.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Camille Juliette lewis a woman who's never been particularly jealous
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: of other women, upon a gorgeous chair in a show
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: room and realizes that she truly envies the life of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: a perfect piece of furniture. Camille in this chair exchange
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: forms and everyone likes her better as a chair. Yep,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: it's freaky Friday. If one of the characters was a chair.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: It's freakyse.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Shase Long.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Oh is it Long not Shay's lounge.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it's l O n g u e Long.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: I always said its lounge because you lounge on a shase.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: You are not the only one. Okay, yeah, this this
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: looks so high concept. I have read some reviews because
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: people have seen it at film festivals, and a lot
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: of the reviews I read were like kind of saying,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really stick the landing, but it is very
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: strange and interesting, and I just think, like, what a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: crazy swing for this to even be made.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: There is also a part of being so at one point,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: you know, there's this guy who falls in love with
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: the chair, right, so which is the person soul inside
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: the chair? I guess maybe he just fell in love.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: With you, or maybe it could just be these in
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: love with the piece of furniture.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at one point in time they show him
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: licking the chair, and there is a part of me
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: that goes that feels embarrassing to do, even as an actor.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which again is why I think it's interesting. Like
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: it's interesting doesn't mean good or bad, It just means huh,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: this isn't something I've seen before.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, I will, I will want to hear your opinion
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: of it when you watch it.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Sure comes out February thirteenth, so that sounds like a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: good time to me.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Very appropriate for Valentine's Day. We also got a trailer
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: for something called untitled Home Invasion Romance, which feels almost
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: on the order of like scary movie.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: But there it's a plot that I know I have
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: seen somewhere else before, but I can't quite remember what
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: it was. But the idea is that Jason Biggs plays
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: a character named Kevin. Kevin's marriage is falling apart. Kevin
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: and one of his friends come up with this idea
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: that his friend is going to play the part of
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: a home invader, and Kevin's going to come home and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: rescue his wife from this home invader, and that is
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: going to rekindle the love in their marriage. But Kevin
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: is kept from getting home in time. His car ends
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: up unable to get traction and so he can't He's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: not able to get home at the appointed time to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: stop the invasion. So his friend, moving forward as if
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: this is the plan, ends up encountering Kevin's wife, who
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: then kills the intruder because to her it's a home intruder.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Her life is in danger, and then there's an ensuing
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: investigation to find out who is this intruder, why, what
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: was the goal, all that kind of stuff. Was Kevin involved?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: And so it just becomes this escalating problem where Kevin's
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: trying to disentangle himself from the plot so that he's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: not implicated in what happened, and meanwhile still trying to,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: you know, win the love of his wife who is
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: sort of falling out of love with him. And again,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I am sure I've seen this plot before about someone
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: comes up with the idea of pretending to be a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: threat so that another person can be the hero. I
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: know I've seen that. I just can't put my finger
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: on what it was.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know offhand what I mean. It does
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: sound for it. It certainly sounds familiar, It looks entertaining enough,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: and it does have a geeky cast in it. So
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: it starts Jason Biggs from the American Pie movie Justin
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: h Men, who was in Umbrella Academy, Megan Rath who
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: was in Being Human, which was about a were wolf,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: a ghost in a vampire all living in a house,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: odd couple style. And Anna Conkle, who's stuck done a
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff, but I know her as Libibi from
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Murder bot Son Si Kiki Yeap.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: It comes to digital on January twenty seventh, so it
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't sound like this is getting a theatrical release. I
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: thought it was very funny that they settled on the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: title untitled Home Invasion Romance because it did have a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: different title, I think while it was in development, but
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: they decided it wasn't right, and I guess they just
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: never were able to come up with something better.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Next, we have a trailer for a series called The
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: nowhere Man, based off the book The nowhere Man. I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: have not read it.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: It looks like is it based off a book? Maybe
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: it is?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Well, either that or there is a book.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: There is a book called nowhere Man, but I think
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: it's a different story, is it. Yeah, because this this
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: is a series that came out in South Africa, and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: one of the things I read on Reddit was someone
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: who saw the series and was disappointed that it was
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: not an adaptation of the novel. Ah. Okay, There's been
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: like multiple things that have been called The nowhere Man,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: which makes us very confusing. But this was a series
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: that originally aired in South Africa and now on January
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: sixteenth is coming to Stars and it's six episodes.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it looks like an interesting So I'm sorry
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: I said it was about a book. The internet. The
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: quick Internet search led me wrong.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Totally understandable because like I had the same thought.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it looks like a good action thriller. It
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't look there's nothing exceptional that stands out to me
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, but it looks well done.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the basic premise is it's a guy who
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: was a former Special Forces soldier who's trying to lead
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: a quiet, you know, introspective life, but then gets pulled
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: into a violent lifestyle again when he helps a woman
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: who is being attacked by home invaders. He happens to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: be there and so he comes to her aid. Funny,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to put this back to back with
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: home Invasion Romance, but yeah, he comes to her aid
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: and then gets pulled into this whole kind of like
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: crime thing that's going on where it's very similar to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of other stories where you have extremely capable
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: hero getting reluctantly pulled into pulled back into a life
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: that they thought they had left behind. We've seen that
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: multiple times. So I agree with you, Ariel. I think
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: this looks like it's well done. But it also looks
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: like it's a well done story that we've seen multiple times.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also the story of our next trailer.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Now I'm kidding.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, The Traders. You know that series that Ellen Cumming
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: hosts where a bunch of former soldiers beat the crap
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: out of each other.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: No, it's it's a bunch of former celebrities uh ranks
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: on each other.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not even celebrities. Uh yeah, No, it's it's
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: it's this whole it's it's a game show essentially, kind
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: of a reality game show thing where you've got someone
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: who is a Trader and a bunch of other people
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: who are all supposedly working together toward goals. But uh,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I don't you know. I have never a full disclosure,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: I've never watched a series of The Traders, but this one.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: I watched the trailer and I thought, oh, I recognize
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: some of the people in this because they just looked familiar.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Most of them I didn't know who they were, because,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: like there are people who were in shows like Big
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Brother or Survivor or Dancing with the Stars, but I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: recognized Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski the the Olympics figure skaters.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: They're in it.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I saw Johnny wear I miss Tara Lipinski.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in it too, and as is Michael Rappaport,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: who I used to ep a show that he did,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: so I recognize them right away. But then also Travis
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Kelce's mother, Isn't it.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: And then the one person that I would actually watch
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: this for if I were to watch it, Ron funchs Yes,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Ron Funch's I also like Money Exchange. She's in it
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: as well. She does, but she did Dungeons and Dry
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Queens on draw.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Uh got you? Gotcha? Yeah? So yeah this, You know,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Alan Cumming is really camping it up in this I've
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: always seen in every single trailer I've ever seen for
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: The Traders, Alan Cumming just seems to be having the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: best time, being way over the top, and this trailer
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: is no exception.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: It's still weird. Most of the things that I watch
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: him in he doesn't have his Scottish accents soever. He's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: just talking in his Scottish accent. It always just takes
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: me a second.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: To It's kind of like David Tennant right, just.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, although David Tennant and all of a sudden
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I can't remember her name, huh, Donna noble red hair,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Catherine Tate, Catherine Tate. There there, I'm not botherid Skit
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: is still one of my favorite things ever. And he's
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: Scottish in that, so that helps.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But are you English though? Are you English though? Yeah? Uh?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: And next up we have something that Ariel added to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: at a point where I was unable to watch the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: trailer before we started recording. It is for the deb
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: and uh, the little bit I did see was something
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: so don't you tell me about the deb So.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: The deb is. It's a it's a musical movie directed
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: by Rebel Wilson. I'm just going to read the log
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: line for it. The high school outcast Taylor Simkins in
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: a small town farm is desperate to redefine herself at
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: the debutante ball the deb and gets help from her
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: cynical cousin city cousin mayve and circumvent expectations and find
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: self acceptance and all that stuff. It feels kind of
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: mean girls Heathers, but more in favor of the maybe
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: not popular kids. It's Australian, so it's very cheeky. Jonathan
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: got to a song that was f my life. I'm
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: editing for the sake of our podcast listeners. But the
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Collider liked it. Apparently it came out in twenty twenty
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: four in Australia, but it's coming to us now. It
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: looks like a fun afternoon.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: I would probably check it out. I like musicals, and
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest Rebel Wilson fan, but the bits
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: that were in the trailer were amusing to me. I
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: definitely feel like it isn't nearly as edgy as something
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: like Heathers Rights. It's nowhere close to as dark as
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: Heathers is, and.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: I maybe a little bit more grounded than Mean Girls.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not talking about Heathers the musical. I'm talking
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: about the original movie Heathers because I have yet to
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: see the musical.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: I've never watched the movie.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Oh it's it's a lot, Aeriel, it's a lot. I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: mean when not a writer is great in it, Christian
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Slater is creepy as all heck in it, there is
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: there's a lot. I don't know that I could recommend it.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: It's certainly I would say that it definitely has not
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: aged gracefully in some parts.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: For sure. For sure, I am aware of that. Okay, well, uh,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: let's go into some even scarier stuff.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: Ah, yes, let us open the door to John Boy's
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: horror Hutch. Oh good. That means I don't have to
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: find a sound effect. Ariel did it for me. So
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: first up, we've got a trailer for Hokum. I am
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: assuming you didn't watch any of these trailers.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: I watched Hokum and I watched Dracula.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Oh you watched Hokumb? What did you think?
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: I regret it.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: It's creepy, isn't it.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: It's scary. I was like it started off with a
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: very like Donnie Darko vibe and just went terrifying from there.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: I'm I I watched it. I'm pretty sure that I
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: disassociated it several points because it was terrifying.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: I think it looks amazing. I'm really I don't want
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: to overbuild this. I like the trailer a lot. I
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: thought it looked super creepy, and I really want to
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: see the movie. It stars Adam Scott. He plays a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: writer who is traveling to Ireland to spread the ashes
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: of his two parents and he.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: That's how much I disassociated. I didn't know it was
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Adam Scott.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Uh, I want to say. I want to say, Becca
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: when she saw it, thought it was David Tennant first,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: because because it doesn't like that, you only get like
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: a short shot of Adam Scott face on, so most
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: of the time you're seeing him from a distance or
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: in profile in this trailer. But yeah, it turns out
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: the place he rented may very well be haunted. And
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: you made the reference of Donnie Darko. The first thing
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: you see after you see you know, there's a shot
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: of him laying on his side on a bed, and
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a creepy establishing shot, and then there's
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: suddenly it's a cut to a a person with like
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: a distorted rabbit head staring into the camera, kind of
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: squatted down and very very unsettling shot, very unsettling visual
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: and to the point where friend of the show Shay
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Lee said, maybe it's supposed to be a poo cup,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: which is a typically a rabbit or hair like creature
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: in Irish folklore, which maybe it is, but there's also
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: witchcraft stuff going on. They mentioned witches in the trailer.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: They also mentioned that it's from the studio and producers
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: behind films like long Legs and Weapons. But I'll remind
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: everyone that's like studio level stuff, so don't take that
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: too seriously. But it does look pretty darn creepy. Comes
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: out May first, so I definitely am interested in this.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: It may be that subsequent trailers will change my mind,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: but initially, right now, I would totally go see this.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: It looks super super weird, it looks interesting and well done.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: It just looks way too scary for me.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for for really scary movie,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. We'll see. And then two movies
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: that I don't think looks scary, but I do want
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: to talk about briefly, Killer Whale and Grizzly Night. These
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: are two animal attack movies. So first up, Killer Whale
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: looks dumb. It starts off. The trailer starts off with
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: a group of young adults maybe maybe they're supposed to
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: be late teenager years, breaking into kind of like a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: SeaWorld type establishment, and while they're there, a janitor gets
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: all ate up by a killer whale in captivity and
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: then we scooch ahead where the young woman who is
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: part of that group is on a vacation in a
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: tropical destination and is convinced by her friend and the
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: guy she just met to go to a remote location
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: in the ocean and swim around and be all sexy
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: and stuff. But then the same killer way that wasn't
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: captivity at the beginning of the movie shows up and
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: totally eats the dude, and then the two women are like,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: they're not close to land, They're close to rocky outcrops,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: but not to a beach, so they go to the
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: rocky outcrops to try and stay safe from the whale,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: and it then becomes something similar to The Shallows, which
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: was not a good movie either. Anyway, I think this
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: film looks like it's made by The Asylum. It's not,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: but that's the feeling it gives me. Except it's clearly
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: on shot on better equipment, and the sound is captured
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: by better equipment than you would find in a film
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: from the Asylum. But the visual effects are pretty bad.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: There's lots and lots and lots of green screen stuff
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: going on and it is not well done. Now, maybe
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: that'll be improved by the time the film comes out
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: on January sixteenth, but I wouldn't count on it. Grizzly
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Night is slightly different. It is based off a true
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: story of a night in nineteen sixty seven at Glacier
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Park in Montana where there were two separate grizzly bear attacks,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: and it was two different bears, and two women died
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: as a result of those, one each. And that's about
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: as far as I can tell. The similarities go between
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: what really happened and what's going on in the movie
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: and the movie. It's at least in the trailer, the
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: bear attacks are presented almost more like a slasher movie
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: would be like a specifically a Friday the Thirteenth movie,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: because think of like Jason stalking campers in the woods.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: That's the feeling I get from this trailer, except instead
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: of Jason, it's a grizzly bear. If you are curious
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: about this actual event, there is a book titled Night
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: of the Grizzlies, which is no relation to the nineteen
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: sixty six film The Night of the Grizzly And there
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: was also a PBS documentary about this incident that came
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: out back in twenty ten. So yeah, this looks weird.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Comes out on video on demand on January thirty. If
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: I am not gonna watch this, I feel like, I
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: feel like it's a weird way to tell the story
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: because it definitely feels like they're leveraging a real life
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: tragedy into a slasher movie kind of entertainment feature, and
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: that just feels gross to me. Yeah, and then we
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: have the other trailer for Dracula, And we've talked about this.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: This is Luke Basson's Dracula picture. We've talked about this
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: a few times about how the initial trailers felt like
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: they were almost copied directly from Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: movie from the nineties. This trailer, I can at least say,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: doesn't look to be as much of a copy of
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Copola's Like we see some other stuff in this that
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: makes it look different from Coppola's film.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like just like, I want to reference another movie,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: but it's not a movie I've seen, so it's probably
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: an incorrect reference. It's gonna be like it's kind of
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: like the Notebook where Dracula and his love chase each
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: other across time.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: No, I mean you're not You're not entirely wrong there.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: I watched Notebooks.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Chris, there's a lot more of Christoph Waltz
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: in this trailer as well, and he's not Van Helsing.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: He's essentially a stand in for Van Helsing. They don't
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: have Van Helsing in this version of Dracula. It is
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: wild to me because this this tells me Luke Bassan
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: has never read Dracula. What Luke Bassan has done is
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: he's seen Nosferatu and he's seen Francis sport copelas Dracula,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: and he's like, why not both? And that's that's kind
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: of what this makes me think of. But it does
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: it is I would be shocked to hear that Bassan
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: ever read Dracula.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: I will say, Caleb Landry Jones, who plays Dracula, looks
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: creepy as all get out.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've read a lot of reviews of this as well,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: from people who have seen it at various either film
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: festivals or they saw it in France because it came
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: out in France already, and they said that it's not
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: very good, but his performance is possibly the best component
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: in the movie. It comes out February sixth. I will
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: not be seeing this because I don't want to support
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: Bisan in his work after I learned about him being terrible.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, which is always a shame when people
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: put in really good performances.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hate that other folks, like, you know,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: they put in good work, or they put in or
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: at least work, maybe not good work, but at least work.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: But you know, seeing as how it ultimately has Bisan's
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: name like attached to the movie, that's the problem.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, onto the things that actually fit though. Dracula kind
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: of fits in all areas, and some of this stuff
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: already did. That's always the case. We've finally got a trailer.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: I'm honestly kind of surprised we got it already for
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: the Odyssey.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we knew that there was gonna be like
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: IMAX versions of trailers and prologues and stuff shown at
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: screenings of Avatar, but for it to be released to
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: YouTube was kind of a surprise. What did you think
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: of the trailer?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: I really like Matt Damon playing Odysseus.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Is he playing Odysseus? I couldn't even tell it was him.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's the main character. Yeah, yes, yes, he's
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: playing Odysseus. I really you're right, it was hard to
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: tell it was him, but I also feel he's got
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: like the right amount of heart in his performances to
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: play that character. You sadly don't get to see a
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: lot of that in the trailer. Most of what you
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: see in the trailer is five hundred level like landscapes
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of people.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this this trailer was giving me like Zack Snyder vibes. Yeah,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: like Zack Snyder three hundred like I was. I was
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: starting to think like, oh, Christopher Nolan, is it Christopher Nolan?
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Please please don't be like Zack Snyder. Please don't make
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: this a movie where it just feels like someone smashing
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: action figures together over and over.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the story of the Odyssey. Albeit Clash
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: of the Titans is like my favorite.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Which is not which is not Odysseus.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: No, it's not Odysseus, but it's Perseus. Rant always complains
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: some I like the Odyssey. It's not epic, which is
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: the movie or the musical that was written on TikTok
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: about the Odyssey. Unfortunately, it's it's got a great cast.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: It Yeah, it feels not only does it feel kind
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: of Zack SNYDERY just made you be pretty I'm sure
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: we don't. We don't get to see a lot of
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: the acting, we don't get to see a lot of
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: the interaction.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: No, it's a lot of the big, the big like
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: spectacle shots, which again probably works great on IMAX but
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: less so on a YouTube screen.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: And any any sort of like mythological creature that you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: encounter in the Odyssey you don't really get to see
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: except for in shadow. And I think that's maybe smart,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: because yeah, you don't want to just give that away,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: but it also.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: You get like a silhouette of Polyphemus the Cyclops.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at the same time, I I kind of
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: feel like they made it seem like it was going
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: to be a boring plod.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: You know what, I don't disagree. I feel the same
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: way like as I watched it. So I have not
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: really been anticipating the Odyssey that much, Like I haven't
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: been looking forward to it because I've read the Odyssey.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: I had to read the Odyssey so many times in college,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: so as a literature major that I don't really have
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: any interest in seeing it told any other way. Like,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: it's just not something that ever resonated with me. And
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: I'm also one of the rare people who I'm like.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Greek mythology never really interested me as much as other
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: types of mythology. I learned about it, and I appreciated
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: some of it, but it just didn't It didn't grab me.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: I'm one of the few individuals out there who doesn't
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: think of the Roman Empire multiple times a day, in
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: case you were curious. In most days, I don't think
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: about it at all. This, however, it makes me think
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: Christopher Nolan thinks about Roman Empire a lot, even though
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: I know the Odyssey is Greek. If we want the
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Roman version, that would be called Ulysses, I know. But yeah,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: I it didn't do much for me. But again, I
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: think that's partly because I'm watching what are clearly meant
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: to be these impressive epic shots, but on a little
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: YouTube screen, so it doesn't you know, it's not going
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: to have that effect. And no one would say that too.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, no one shot this thing on imax, right,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: like that's this is meant to be experienced in a
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: totally different way. So I wish there had been some
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: more of those little like acting moments, because that's what
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: would work better on YouTube screen. Yeah, you know, whereas
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: you may not want a whole lot of acting moments
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: on IMAX because you're like, oh my god, Tom Holland's
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: face is five stories tall. I do think it's nice
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: that Tom Holland ends and Daya are both in it.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: That's cute.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is really nice. I bet, I bet
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: it was fun to work together on that.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they ever got a chance to
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: because she plays Athena and he plays Telemachus, So I
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: don't know that they share any scenes like they might.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: They might have been on set at the same time,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: maybe depending on what they were filming, which.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Days, maybe at least in the same country.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I do feel like the Odyssey is more
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: interesting than the Iliad personally.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, And I like I.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: Like the Odyssey. It was not a movie that I
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: was super like, Hi, I need to see this movie.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: There are parts of it that are dry, there are
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: parts of it that I absolutely love. I I hope
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: I think the acting will be phenomenal, and I hope
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: that they pace it well.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: It'll be rough because making Odysseus someone that you don't
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: absolutely detest, for the fact that he spends a full year,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: fullig around with Circi, and then seven years fully around
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: with Calypso before getting back to his home, like he's
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: gone for ten years. Eight of those years are him
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: messing around with women who are not his wife. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: she's doing her best to stave off all the suitors
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: who want to take her as a wife.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was going to be by his choice.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: Calypso less so Seriously, it's his crew who have to
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: convince him to leave. They're all like, hey, Odysseus, I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: understand why you're okay with all this, but the rest
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: of us don't have Cirrus, and we'd kind of like
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: to go home.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, this movie comes out June twelfth, and oh,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, July seventeenth, I was thinking I was looking
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: ahead at the wrong movie. July seventeenth is when it
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: comes out.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: I want to say, that feels so soon because we
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: didn't hear about it that long ago. But also like
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: used to be that we didn't hear about movies super
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: super Far in advance.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: Well it depended right, like, but yeah, with YouTube in general,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: we typically when we're getting trailers, it typically means that
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: we're like a month or two away from release. But
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: then look at Avengers Doomsday. We're a year from that
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: coming out and their first teaser has already been out.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: But I would argue, honestly, the other thing I should
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: have said about the whole teaser thing with Doomsday. I
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: suspect that them releasing the teasers is more to do
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: with them trying to get more people to go see
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Avatar than it is about actually building up anticipation for
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: Avengers Doomsday. And I think it's a shame that they
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: started with Chris Evans as Captain or well, maybe not as
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: Captain America, but you know, Steve Rogers of him being
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: in the film, I think it's a shame that they
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: revealed that. I think it would have been better if
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: it had been a surprise when you're watching the movie.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: You mean, like in Brave New World where they revealed
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: the Red Hulk immediately.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: Or like in The Phantom Menace where you see both
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: of Darth Maul's double bladed lightsaber in the trailer. Yeah,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: I think that that would have been a more powerful
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: reveal in the film itself. So I think it's a shame.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: I understand. I can't I can understand reasons for doing it,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: like one is that Marvel again is trying to right
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: the ship and wants people to get excited for this,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: and honestly, the build up has not been great. Like it.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: You don't feel the same sort of build up that
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: was heading into Avenger's Infinity War because they haven't. Doom
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: has only shown up in one film and only in
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: the post credits scene, so you haven't really seen him
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: or heard much about him. You haven't heard anything about him,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: You haven't, You've only seen him once. Yeah, so there's
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: they're they're trying to overcome a lot of challenges. So
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: I get that, Lowell, Let's pull out the big guns.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: We've got Robert Donney Junior coming back, so we're going
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: to do a teaser with Doom. And we've got Chris
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: him Worth coming back, so we're going to do a
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: teaser with Thor. So let's also do a teaser with
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Steve Rogers. But I would much prefer a teaser that
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: gives a hint as to what the frickin' movie's about
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking about big guns, and I might I might
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: say that we need to speed up a little bit
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: because we're gonna hit two hours and i'd probably need
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: to stop around then.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: I don't understand, Like, I'm fine, but then I've also
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: taken vacation toward today, so I.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Am working today and it's a little bit more flexible today,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: but I also have to get my husband to his car.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So we've got a trailer for the next Steven
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: Spielberg movie, Disclosure Day. It's a sci fi film and
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: it involves UFOs or aliens, et cetera. Why do you
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: think of this trailer? Because I thought it was also
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: kind of unsettling.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: It was unsettling, it was interesting. It gave me like
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: very Close Encounters of the Third kind kind of vibes
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: in like not really understanding what's going on. Yeah, but
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: that's the problem. I don't really follow the plot very well.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they haven't all over the place. They haven't
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: really said. Like the logline essentially is if you found
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: out that we are not alone in the universe, how
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: would that affect you? That's kind of what the movie
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: is exploring. But what we see in the trailer is
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: animals are acting in a peculiar way, as are meteorologists
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: or maybe just Emily Blunt. So animals and Emily Blunt
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: are acting weird?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: You call it Emily Blunt animal.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying that she's also acting weird. There's
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: she's playing a meteorologist in Kansas City, and apparently her
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: her weather report suddenly gets like based on the trailer,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: it looks like it gets transmitted around the world, and
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: she starts speaking, but then quickly is reduced to just
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: making these very weird clicking noises, which may or may
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: not be alien language. That's the part that was really
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: unsettling to me, Partly just the idea of someone. I mean,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: this has happened to me where I became incapable of
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: speech when I had my blood pressure issue. So part
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: of it is that it reminds me of that happening
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: to me. I wasn't making clicking noises. I was just
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: unable to speak. But also the I kind of have
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: mesophobia or mesophonia where I don't like mouth sounds, So
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: it really bothered me. Because I had my headphones on,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: It didn't bother me as much. I thought it was interesting,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: but I also like, I was like, is she the alien?
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: Is she just an antenna? Is she?
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I got the feeling that she was the more
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: like the antenna thing that I don't know. It's the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: movie's also got like Colin Firth and Coleman Domingo and
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Eve Houston and Josh O'Connor in it comes out June twelfth.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: I honestly did not even know Spielberg was directing a
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: movie this year, So that has me excited. And the
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: fact that he's going back to science fiction that's really cool.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was about to say, even though I
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: don't really know what's happening in this, this movie, like this,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: hearkens to all the things I love about him, and
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like a rehash of something else to me. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: so I am excited.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: We also got a trailer for The Artful Dodger season two.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: I remember I started watching the first season, but I
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: don't think i've maybe I only finished one episode.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: Didn't you say it was like darker and more serious
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: than you anticipated or something?
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, because it's it's Dodger has has sort of
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: cleaned up his act. Dodger's from Oliver Twist. He was
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: one of Fagan's thieves, but he's clear cleaned up his
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: act and become a surgeon working with the Royal Navy,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: and then he has posted to Australia. Fagan ends up
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: in Australia because he's a criminal and the English like
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: to they're criminals in Australia for a while, and Fagan
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: is still very much in the crime world and kind
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: of pulls Dodger back into it. Well, meanwhile, Doctor's trying
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: to make a respectable life for himself but finds himself
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: kind of unwillingly pulled into these criminal feats. Season two
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: is more of that. Fagan looks like like David Thulis,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: who's playing Fagan, looks like he's having the time of
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: his life, and I'm here for it. Like, I loved
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: the bits I saw of Fagan in this trailer because
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: he just Thullis seems like he's having the time of
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: his life playing this charming but reprehensible character. But apart
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: from that, I couldn't tell you what the heck is
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: going on. I read up on season one and Oliver
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: Twist shows up at the end of season one and
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, the world is huge. Australia by itself
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: is huge. How do these characters just run into each
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: other like this?
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that is interesting. Colin Firth is not in
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: The Artful Dodger, but he was gonna make good segue
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: and it didn't.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: It does come out February tenth, with all eight episodes
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: available upon launch, just in case you're curious.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I had a brain fart, so skipping the
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Artful Dodger. Colin Firth is you said in Disclosure Day? Yes,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: and he's also in Young Sherlock. Okay, I did it.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: I did it.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just had the leap frog over the one
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: I put in the middle.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, like the Artful Dodger looked interesting to me,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: then it feels like this trailer feels like a different vibe,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: but it still looks interesting. I just never got to
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: watching it.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what'd you think of the Young Sherlock trailer?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: This is done by Guy Ritchie, by the way, so
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: that would tell you that this version of Sherlock eventually
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: grows up to be Robert Donney Jr.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's also a Finds kind of vehicle because
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: there's Joseph Findes and Hero Finds. Tiffin are both in it,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: and they're both related to Ralph Fines Finds. I mean
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: it looked fun. It looked a little better than a
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: teeny bopper version of Sherlock Holmes to me, but not much.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: You know what, It looks better to me than Young
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: Sherlock Holmes, which is a movie that I did enjoy,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: often cited as one of the first films to feature
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: CGI animation in it, I think it looks better than that.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: But I agree with you. It feels It doesn't feel
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: like it's particularly special. It doesn't elevate outside of its
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: basic premise, and it does something that I despise, which
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: is that it makes Sherlock and Moriarty friends at the time,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: that they're both like young men, like coll aged men,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: and that I hate that so much. Like in the books,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: Moriarty is someone whom Charlock gradually becomes aware of. He
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: only shows up like twice in the Arthur Conan Doyle books.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: And because Watson is the one who's telling these stories,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: Watson's not close to Moriarty. He sees him from a distance,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: so you don't really learn much about him, but you
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: do get the feeling that he doesn't have a history
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: with Sherlock Holmes. So to do it this way where
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: it's like it's like Smallville where Clark and Lex Luthor
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: are friends and they keep making comments that are foreshadowing
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: that ultimately they're going to be antagonists to each other.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: It's very easy and cheap in my mind, so it
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't appeal to me. However, I'm a snob, so I
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: could just be a wet blanket here. I do know
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be eight episodes, just like Artful Dodger. All
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: eight drop on day one, which will be March fourth,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: So if it works, then you'll be able to binge
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: the whole series in you know, a couple of days. Nice.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: The next is a trailer for the Sheep Detectives.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: You sound thrilled.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I don't like animal movies.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: These are cgi they aren't even real animals.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: I still like. I watched it. I watched the trailer.
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  Speaker 1: I like Hugh Jackman, who plays briefly a shepherd.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so Ariel doesn't like animals. We've established this.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: She likes to stand outside of butcher shops and say,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: kill more of them.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: Just keep going.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hugh Jackman's a shepherd. He dies this. He first
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: of all, he reads murder mystery novels to his sheep
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: before going to bed and he doesn't know that the
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: sheep can understand him. They they can talk to each other.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: But this is not a movie where animals can talk
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: to humans. It's just that the animals are able to
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: understand one another, and they decide they want to find out.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: They assume that he's been murdered. They want to solve
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: his murder. It's also got Emma Thompson in it. I
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: think who's I think she's the lawyer who's reading out
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: his will. And it's got a whole bunch of famous
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: people who do voices of various sheeps. So you got
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: like Julia, Louis Dreyfus, Brian Cranston, Chris O'Dowd, Regina Hall,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: Patrick Stewart, Bella Ramsey, Brett Goldstein, and Rhys Darby. And
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: it comes out May eighth, and as we have established,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Ariel will not go see it unless she can be
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: assured that all of them will be turned to mutton
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: by the end of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: I I know, I know our listeners know that's not
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: the case. I don't want to see sheet Like. I
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: didn't even watch Wild Robot, which I hear is amazing,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: and those are cartoon animals. I don't like watching animals
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: in distress, real or fictional, unless.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: They are animals in debt dress.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, and animals in animals in clothing are
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: adorable unless those animals are creepy spider aliens that come
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: from the center of the earth, like in our next trailer,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: World Breaker.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So a rift opens up on the surface of
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: the earth, monsters crawl out. The monsters if they the
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: log line I read said that if they scratch or
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: bite a man, that man has the chance of becoming
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: a quote unquote hybrid, which sounds like they essentially become
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: under the control of the monsters. And so armies of
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: women formed to fight off the monsters. And also they
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: discover that the most effective way of killing them is
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: to decapitate them. So these armies of women are arming
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: themselves not just with like guns, but also swords. And
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: also Mila Jehovivic is billed as starring in this, but
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: from what I understand, she's in like two scenes.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I was watching on social media. A
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: director he auditions AI actors to show where the pitfalls
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: are in using AI models as actors, right, and he
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: does one with a woman for like an action movie
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: and the AI actor can't stop singing for some weird reason,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: and then he calls it Mila Jejoseovic and gives her
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: direction and she's phenomenal.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to know that she's a step above
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: AI for sure.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: For sure. Honestly, this looks like a I love that
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: she has been able to make a career out of fun,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: kitchy sci fi action type movies. A lot of them
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: are like B level to me and not things that
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: I necessarily seek out personally. This feels like a higher
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: quality level. It is done by Brad Anderson, who did
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: The Machinist, which got some high acclaim and also some
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: good horror. He did a psychological horror called Session nine
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: that I think, Yeah, I got a really good cult following.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one comes out January thirtieth. I am not
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: super optimistic about it, but you know, maybe I'm maybe
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just being again cynical sourpuss pants.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: It does look creepy to me.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Did you see that I put in
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: the trailer for the Beauty here?
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: I did?
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: I Like.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: This came up for me after Hamlet and I was like,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: is this AI?
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: It's weird? It's It's a series that's produced by Ryan Murphy,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: who's kind of anything trashy on television. Ryan Murphy is
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: part of it, essentially like the American Horror Story, American
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: Crime Story, all that stuff was it? The All's Fair.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: That one's also one of Ryan Murphy's. This one is
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: an adaptation of a comic book slash graphic novel about now.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: In the graphic novel, the story is there's a sexually
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: transmitted disease that makes you look more attractive if you
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: catch it, but then it also turns out it's deadly wampwomp.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: In this trailer, it looks like instead of it being
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: an STD, it's a drug manufactured by you know, a
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: soulless pharmaceutical company headed by Ashton Kutcher, and that the
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: drug makes you look attractive and younger, but also probably
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: kills you I'm guessing.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: And also maybe turns you into a spy. I don't know.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also an there's an a sad in this.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the assassin's gig is. Evan Peters
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: is in it, playing and a federal agent. But then
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: of course Evan Peters is in it. It's a Ryan
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: Murphy project.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: I think like Peters, I do Great Quicksilver.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: I like Evan Peters, I like Sarah Poulson. I just
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: wish they could find stuff besides Ryan Murphy projects to
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: be in.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: If I mean, honestly, this one kind of gives me
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: Sin City vibes.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the trailer definitely has that kind of feel
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: to it. I agree. Anthony Ramos is also in it.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: You know, he was in Washington in the Heights and Hamilton,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: but he's the assassin. He's the one eyed assassin in
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: the show. It comes out January twenty first. Uh, yeah,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know about this one, y'all. It's I mean,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: it's Ryan Murphy, I have he has such a huge
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: hill to climb in order for me to get on board.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: I'll wait for the reviews for sure.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh no, I was just going to say, next,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: we have another, you know, the final trailer for Anaconda.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: And really the reason I put this in here is
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: because it starts off spoofing the font for Avatar, So
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: it makes it seem like it's going to be, oh,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: this is going to be a trailer for Avatar, because look,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: it's talking about how there's one movie you need to
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: see this Christmas season. And then there's the rug pole
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: moment where it's Anaconda when Jack Black and Paul Rudd.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: Yes and surprise at the end of the trailer. Also
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: ice Cube, who is in the original Anti Conda.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: Which I feel was also meant to be a reveal
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: in the film that probably didn't need to be in
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: the trailer because it was meant to be a big like, oh,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: that's cool moment in the movie. But I also feel
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: that they probably have lost confidence that people will go
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: see it because this is the movie I was talking about,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: like Snakes on a Plane just so happens. It's also
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: another snake movie where I feel people thought the idea
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: of an Anaconda reboot was funny, but they won't necessarily
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: take the effort to go and see it.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, should I have not mentioned that that, Oh no.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: It's in the trailer. It's in the trailer. Yeah, it
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: would be like if you didn't mention Darth Maul's doubly
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: a lightsaber after the trailer of Phantom Menace, like that
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: was the one thing everyone talked about.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: Great. I don't know, I still might enjoy it.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Well, it comes up Christmas Day. So if you find
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: yourself with the lack of things to do, I will.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: Not have a lack of things to do over the holidays.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: There's always too much. But I might watch it. It may.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: I may not go to the theater for it, but
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: I might. I might watch it. Next we got a
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: trailer for glad Lands, which is the next Dimension twenty
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: D and D actual play. Actually, I don't know if
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: they're using D and D.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: They're using a home brew system.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, a home brew system. Glad Lands. It's nice Mad.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: Max, Yeah, Mad Max. If everyone was polite and helpful
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: to each other.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my friend worked on this one. I'm very excited for.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: It comes out January seventh. It looks very silly, and
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: of course they're going to find ways for it to
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: be action packed and everything, but the the basic premise
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: of imagine a post apocalypse but everyone's actually pretty nice
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: to each other. That's kind of a funny premise. I've
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: heard some people suspect that maybe this is an offshoot
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: of dad Lands and the maclroys will show up fighting
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: over a throne by the end of it.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: I would love that it also has uh, it has
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: Jacob Boiesaki, It's got Kimmia Bifora, who I love, Zach Yama,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: Zach Oyama with classic dad antics, Are You My Dad?
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: Alla?
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: Fantasy High just just a really great, a really great
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: cast of people. Ali Beardsley, I don't remember the other
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: player all of a sudden, oh, Vic Michalis. Yeah, it's
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: a good it's a good cast of people. I think
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: that group of people will do really well at playing
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: politely chaotic, so I think I think it's a perfect table.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like it'll be quite silly. So that'll
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: be on Dropout TV starting January seventh, and then finally
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: before just before we started recording, really, Ariel came across
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: this trailer for Hamlet. It's another take on the classic
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: Shakespearean tale of Hamlet, this one being a modern day
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: interpretation of it, with Riz Ahmed playing the title character.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: A lot of Indian English actors in this cast, so
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: it's got a lot of that cultural influence in it.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: Timothy Spall is playing Polonius. Small's been in like if
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: I were to list his his resume, we'd be here
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: for another two hours. But he's been tons of stuff.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: Geeks probably know him best as Peter Pettigrew slash worm
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: Tail in the Harry Potter movies. He's playing my favorite
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: character of all time, Polonius. And yeah, this trailer, I
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: thought it looked really interesting.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like. I like that the Hamlet family
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: is uh is South Asian. That's really yeah cool.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: I like that there is some uh Anti Elson or
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: graffiti on the wall at one point that made me laugh.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it it's it's modern. I will say. It gave
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: me like Romeo plush Juliet vibes in like kind of
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: the pacing, but a thousand bazillion times better, Like I'm
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: super interested.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's not not as frantically edited as Romeo
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: and Juliet was. Like Baz Laarman's editing style is such
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: that I have difficulty watching Bazz's films because they're there's
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: they feel disjointed to me because of all the quick edits.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: This didn't feel like that. But it definitely is stylish,
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: and it is you know. I don't know if they
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: are totally just using the original language or if it's
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: going to be a mixture, but everything I heard in
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: the trailer was something that was in the original play.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: I think there might be combining some characters though, because
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: it seemed to me like they had combined Horatio and Ophelia.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Yeah, Yeah, Well, so it says that Joe
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: Alwyn plays Horatio, and there's definitely an Ophelia character.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's as he's talking to her about his father,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: and it was it seemed like it was early enough
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: in the play where but maybe it was him supposed
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: to talk to Aphelia. It has been a it's been
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: a hot minute since I reread Hamlet, so I could
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: be just misremembering or mischaracterizing.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to say that that's that's a
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: huge nod to the at least the trailer of this
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: version of it, because it's also been a long time since,
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: Like the most recent thing of Hamlet I saw was
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, which is not you know,
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: ham Yeah, but I've seen Hamlet a lot. I've been
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: in Hamlet, so I haven't touched it in a long time.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: It doesn't normally excite me anymore, and this excited me.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: I very much want to see this. The performances look amazing.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll also say that just despite my fears when
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: I looked at the comments on this video. They were
• 2:03:22
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• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: I was worried I was going to see some of
• 2:03:27
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• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm very excited for it. When does it
• 2:03:33
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• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: Jonathan uh February sixth, Ariel, I'm excited. Yeah, not long.
• 2:03:39
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• 2:03:42
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