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Home Depot Dad would not approve of you being a lying, lazy 304 | Rantzerker 234 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Coming to you live from deep within an icy and
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  Speaker 1: very disorganized, radioactive wasteland. We are the survivors of the
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  Speaker 1: alt right keck Apocalypse once more, waiting into battle against
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  Speaker 1: the lying, absolutely lying Barbie zombie hordes with rant Zurker
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  Speaker 1: uhh through two three four Home Deepot Home, Deepot Home
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  Speaker 1: Depot Dad would not approve of you being a lying
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  Speaker 1: lazy three oh four. I am your host, Alison, and
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  Speaker 1: with me is Hannah and Brian's we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: ranting with Hannah today, not Karen. And yeah, so let's
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  Speaker 1: uh should we just should we just.
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  Speaker 2: Dive right in?
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  Speaker 1: I hate to tell you, guys, it's more Manifestel more Manifestel.
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  Speaker 3: No really, I don't know manifestel. So this is you guys,
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  Speaker 3: get to see me learn about this person live.
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  Speaker 1: Knda is a complete virgin to manifesto, to Manifestel. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so it's it's it's like it's a combination of reacting
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  Speaker 1: to Manifestel and then you get to see Hannah respond
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  Speaker 1: to this.
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  Speaker 2: Entity for the very first time.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like this woman that we're seeing here.
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  Speaker 2: Her, Yes, this this is she.
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  Speaker 3: Did she do that to her eyebrows on purpose?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? Oh? Oh, I feel like we're being this is
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  Speaker 4: already petty.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, but okay, guys like I have done nothing to
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  Speaker 3: my eyebrows. You can see the great hairs, Like I,
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  Speaker 3: I have opinions about that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Hannah was an eyebrow purist.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, well yeah, I don't like. I don't like.
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  Speaker 3: I never would have dated gals that did that to
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  Speaker 3: their face.
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  Speaker 1: I just just to be, yeah, this is petty, But
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  Speaker 1: why did she shove her head into a bucket of
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  Speaker 1: fried chicken before going on.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's it's not that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So here's here's what it gets.
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  Speaker 3: Me about it, And I'm gonna I'm gonna be blunt
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  Speaker 3: about this, all right. There's trying to look nice, and
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  Speaker 3: then there's trying to look sculpted. And a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people try to look nice because they want to be
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  Speaker 3: pleasant around other people. I know that there are women
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  Speaker 3: that wear makeup that's that's just like minimal or uh
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  Speaker 3: shape emphasizes the shape of their features and everything. But
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  Speaker 3: the minute that you try to look like she's trying,
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  Speaker 3: she's going for the high toned bitch look. Yes, and she.
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  Speaker 4: Just lifestyle and that.
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  Speaker 3: I know what I'm expecting I said, I'm gonna It's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see if the impression that that
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  Speaker 3: causes pans out just saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, don't don't, don't, don't spoil it for her.
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  Speaker 1: Brian based on purely on physical presentation. Hannah has said
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  Speaker 1: that Manifestel is going for what was it, high high
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  Speaker 1: tone bitch.
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  Speaker 3: Look the basically, the bitch is that woman that walks in,
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  Speaker 3: you know, sticks her tits out like and walks in
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  Speaker 3: like she owns the place and bosses everybody around and
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  Speaker 3: is more important than everybody, and and her opinion is
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  Speaker 3: more important than everybody, and whatever she's sympathetic to is
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  Speaker 3: more important than what you're sympathetic to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well we'll find out if that is accurate.
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  Speaker 1: this is Manifestel once again. We're doing sort of a
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  Speaker 1: Manifestel pot porie. So it's gonna be we're gonna tempt
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  Speaker 1: the longest Manifestel response in HBr has. We are going
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  Speaker 1: to do attempt four of her videos, all of which
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  Speaker 1: are requests by none other than the ineffable Richard Bierre.
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  Speaker 1: And starting with her video on home Depot.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I thought we'd watch this if you have daddy issues.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's.
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  Speaker 2: That's the Home Depot Dad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in which she blames fatherless behavior on men.
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  Speaker 4: Men.
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  Speaker 2: Yes men.
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  Speaker 4: She also doesn't she also doesn't like the term fatherless
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  Speaker 4: behavior when it's directed at women because it's accurate. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it criticizes women accurately. That's why she doesn't like it.
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  Speaker 4: Women should never be criticized ever, So all right, should
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  Speaker 4: I play the intro and then jump into the bit
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  Speaker 4: about how this is actually misogyny when women have daddy issues.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just hump into the bart where she just basically
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  Speaker 4: blames misogyny.
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  Speaker 2: You know what.
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  Speaker 1: I think that if I can actually locate it, because
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  Speaker 1: my computer is not my various tabs are not participating.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if they actually wait, wrong computer. My god,
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  Speaker 2: that was really dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So I wanted to just read the summary of
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  Speaker 1: this if that, if I may, just to set the tone,
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right. In this episode of the Spoilt
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  Speaker 1: Girly Support Group podcast, host Manifestel discusses the impact of
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  Speaker 1: lacking a father figure on women's self esteem and boundaries.
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  Speaker 1: She addresses the misogynoust notion of fatherless behavior and emphasizes
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  Speaker 1: that women should not be blamed for the actions of men.
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  Speaker 2: Elle A.
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  Speaker 1: Manifestel introduces the concept of the home depot dad as
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  Speaker 1: an archetype of a supportive father figure, encouraging women to
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  Speaker 1: envision how such a father would treat them and recognize
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  Speaker 1: their inherent value. The conversation culminates in a call for
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  Speaker 1: women to embrace their power and worth, shaping a future
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  Speaker 1: built on love and respect, soft love and respect of
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  Speaker 1: what they're worst selves. I guess so Manifestel is essentially
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  Speaker 1: saying that women should manifest the home Depot Dad in
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  Speaker 1: their own mind, which sort of it sounds a little
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  Speaker 1: bit like Guy Smiley's affirmations. It's going to be pretty meaningless,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, because one of the most important things
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  Speaker 1: that dad dos Dad does dads do is set boundaries,
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  Speaker 1: and I imagine this home Depot Dad that Manifestel has
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  Speaker 1: manifested won't be setting any boundaries, won't be acting as
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  Speaker 1: an actual parental figure telling Manifestel, yeah, you look like crap,
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  Speaker 1: don't wear that, don't act like that. You're being your
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  Speaker 1: worst self instead of aiming to be your best self. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that home Depot Dad, I'm sure I
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  Speaker 1: might I'll be wrong. Home Depot Dad is just going
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  Speaker 1: to sign off and kiss her ass on everything she does.
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  Speaker 3: Probably, what do you want.
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  Speaker 4: Me to start with? You want you want to start
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  Speaker 4: depot dad, because that's okay. The home depot dad, We'll
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  Speaker 4: go right here.
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  Speaker 5: But the home depot dad, okay, The home depot dad
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  Speaker 5: is the archetype of a dad who is always there
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  Speaker 5: for his children. He's the dad who builds things in
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  Speaker 5: the home, the dad who will drive to you no
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  Speaker 5: matter how far you are, the dad who will take
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  Speaker 5: you out of sketchy situations and situationships that you like.
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  Speaker 2: Why would your dad do any of that?
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  Speaker 1: Like you want your So essentially, actually this is an
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  Speaker 1: interesting twist. I didn't predict this. So essentially, the home
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  Speaker 1: depot dad is the Victorian dad who has that much
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  Speaker 1: authority over your life.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's it's not though. She's not describing authority. She's
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  Speaker 3: describing ride or Die. And I'm sorry, but if my
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  Speaker 3: dad had been ride or Die, I'd be dead now. Like,
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  Speaker 3: my dad wasn't authoritarian, although I'm sure I had friends
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  Speaker 3: who really thought he was. But he was definitely not
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  Speaker 3: Ride or Die. Like he gave me guidance. He did
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  Speaker 3: things like telling guys, no, my daughter's not coming out
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  Speaker 3: to meet you. She's not going out with you tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Go home. And he did that more than once because
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  Speaker 3: when I was a teenager, I had shit for brains
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  Speaker 3: when it came especially to dating for a while. And
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  Speaker 3: so what she's describing doesn't really. She thinks she's describing
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  Speaker 3: a good father, but there aren't really a lot of
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  Speaker 3: guys that are going to do thatccountable. They recognize danger,
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  Speaker 3: they recognize dumb ideas, and they try to instill in
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  Speaker 3: their children. Don't just do whatever you feel like. Evaluate
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  Speaker 3: your ideas to see if they're good ideas or bad ideas.
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  Speaker 3: And if they're bad ideas, especially if they're dumb ideas,
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  Speaker 3: don't do those things right. This is not what she's describing.
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  Speaker 3: Treats you like a princess. That's a there's an example
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  Speaker 3: right there. So my grandfather treated me like a princess.
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  Speaker 3: He wanted me to be very ladylike, and so I
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  Speaker 3: kind of got the my fair lady treatment a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: not the rude version of it. But he really tried,
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  Speaker 3: and I really didn't have all that inclination. I can
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  Speaker 3: do it when I work really hard. But he also
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  Speaker 3: pampered me like a princess, and he called me princess.
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  Speaker 3: That was his nickname for me. And my dad made
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  Speaker 3: sure that I would aware that in real life, in
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  Speaker 3: real kingdoms, real princesses have responsibilities, and they don't always
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  Speaker 3: get to decide to do everything they want, and they're
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  Speaker 3: actually responsible for all of the people around them because
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  Speaker 3: they have authority. When you have authority, you're responsible for
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  Speaker 3: the people around you. It's, you know, the whole with
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  Speaker 3: great power comes great responsibility talk except without quoting Spider Man,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think that this woman understands any of that.
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  Speaker 3: What she's describing is a simp for a dad.
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  Speaker 2: She's describing an enabler. Yeah, essentially, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: So essentially her father just comes by and cleans up
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  Speaker 1: our messes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's nout suggesting that maybe here's ways to not
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  Speaker 3: make that mess the next time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, so I think you got the
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  Speaker 1: picture here? Is there is there more to the particular showing.
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  Speaker 4: There's a little bit more that to the time code,
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  Speaker 4: like another like thirty seconds or so good, go ahead,
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  Speaker 4: let's do.
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  Speaker 5: It, okay, princess, like you have never known any other
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  Speaker 5: type of treatment because this is your dad. Okay, he's
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  Speaker 5: the dad who sets the bar so high that very
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  Speaker 5: few men can compare. The dad who just shows you
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  Speaker 5: through his actions.
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  Speaker 4: She submitted something, well, let me finish the clip here.
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  Speaker 3: Well okay, but.
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  Speaker 4: All right, just I don't think she's I just want to.
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  Speaker 6: Let her loved and can be loved.
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  Speaker 5: And it is such a privilege to have such a father.
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  Speaker 5: And like I said, we have zero control over who
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  Speaker 5: our parents are, who our fathers are. Like if we
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  Speaker 5: could choose, we would pick and choose the home Depot
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  Speaker 5: dad package every single time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's uh, yeah, it wasn't really adding much,
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  Speaker 1: but okay, yeah, Well.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure that she said everything she
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  Speaker 4: was going to say.
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  Speaker 2: You want to be you want to present integrity.
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  Speaker 3: That's good, right, what she admitted there was in her
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  Speaker 3: search for a partner. She's not looking for a partner.
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  Speaker 3: She's looking to replace her childhood daddy with her grown
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  Speaker 3: up daddy.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, when I listen to her, I can almost hear
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  Speaker 1: some Asian father screaming in the background.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's not that it's her childhood daddy image, whatever
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  Speaker 3: her real dad was. Like her childhood daddy image is
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  Speaker 3: daddy does everything for daughter, whether it's daddy Pamper's daughter,
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  Speaker 3: daddy teaches daughter, Daddy does everything right, daddy does everything
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  Speaker 3: wrong when she's looking for a partner in adulthood the
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  Speaker 3: way she described the home depot dad and then said
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  Speaker 3: he sets the bar so high that other men can't compare.
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  Speaker 3: She's describing a simp who enables her or enables her,
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  Speaker 3: and who financially pampers her, who does everything to cater
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  Speaker 3: to her whims and wishes. Who right. She's not looking
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  Speaker 3: for someone to mud and even a role model like
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  Speaker 3: that would be a step up. She's looking for someone
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  Speaker 3: to serve her and to take the blame for everything
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  Speaker 3: that goes wrong in her life.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit of a theme with Manifestel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's looking for somebody to be the responsible party
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  Speaker 3: in the relationship because she doesn't plan on doing that
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  Speaker 3: as part of her end of their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I can I can only imagine if she actually
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  Speaker 1: has an actual dad one of two reactions. I could
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  Speaker 1: imagine either he is just disgusted with her, or he's
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  Speaker 1: proud of her for making so much money off of
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  Speaker 1: idiots like uh, I mean, it depends how much of
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  Speaker 1: an ethical core if she has a dad. But as
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  Speaker 1: a person who also had a dad, an involved dad,
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  Speaker 1: what she's describing is not a father who cares in
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  Speaker 1: a true way, because a father who truly cares equips
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  Speaker 1: his children with the ability, the means, and the the
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  Speaker 1: skills and the virtues and the ethical basis to navigate life.
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  Speaker 2: Why were you in.
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  Speaker 1: Situationships in the first place? Yeah? Is it because you
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  Speaker 1: are shooting? You're punching above your weight. I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: a dad, like my dad would probably have said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're punching above your weight, you know, like, recognize that
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  Speaker 1: you're not a perfect ten, moderate your freaking expectations and
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  Speaker 1: go after something reasonable. But you know, he's also Dutch,
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  Speaker 1: so I mean, very blunt human being.
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  Speaker 2: But he don't. He wouldn't, he wouldn't like.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is that the more I get older,
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  Speaker 1: the more I realize how much that's been helpful in
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  Speaker 1: my life to not be in love with the idea
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  Speaker 1: of myself, shall we say, and how that's actually helped
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  Speaker 1: me navigate the world in a much better way than
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the women.
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  Speaker 2: That I see.
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  Speaker 1: Because the women that I've seen who follow the manifestel path,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as they can no longer like, they hit
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  Speaker 1: the wall, and then they can no longer manufacture the
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  Speaker 1: image that they haven't their lives creter. And it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of the times it almost seems like
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  Speaker 1: they don't even recognize how isolated they are, how much
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  Speaker 1: they've pushed everyone away with their behavior, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: how they've missed every opportunity simply because of fear of
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  Speaker 1: missing out. If I, if I actually grab onto this opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: Oh there could be something even better. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: imagine this better thing instead of just swallowing your pride
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  Speaker 1: and saying this is mine, let's get on with it.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, like a I think a real dad
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  Speaker 1: will would teach you when to cut, you know, like when.
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  Speaker 2: To fold them.
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  Speaker 3: It was already stuck in my head when you said that, Yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 1: What a dad would teach you. When a good like
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  Speaker 1: a good dad, when to hold him, when to fold them,
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  Speaker 1: when to cut and run, you know, when to be
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  Speaker 1: just like you don't. This is the best deal I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get. Let's go forward with it. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that she invites women and this home, Deepot, this home, Deepot,
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  Speaker 1: you know, actually I will call it home Deepot, this home.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder when she came up with this home Deepot,
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  Speaker 1: Dad that she's it's home deepot.
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  Speaker 2: It's the it's the.
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  Speaker 1: Dollar bin version of home depot, the home Depot Dad
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  Speaker 1: just like basically signs off on it.
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  Speaker 3: And really that compulsive.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is that it's it's this is a kind
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  Speaker 1: of weird codependence. She's constructed where the men she wants
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  Speaker 1: to be with taken identity from constantly cleaning up after her.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of facilitating her learning some level of self reliance
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  Speaker 1: and independence. She wants these men to do everything for her.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you are a spoilt goally and you've you've constructed
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  Speaker 1: your entire mentality around men doing shit for you, what
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  Speaker 1: happens when you don't get a man, because you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to like this woman is not gonna get you
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  Speaker 1: a man. She's just gonna keep telling you that you
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  Speaker 1: are owed a man who's gonna fix everything in your life.
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  Speaker 1: He's she's he's gonna fix fix your stickgmatism. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: fix your weak left ventricle. He's gonna fix your inability
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  Speaker 1: to just pee out that last tea spoon.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna fix. He's gonna fix the cats.
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  Speaker 1: Shoving her freaking tail in your face. She's gonna fix
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  Speaker 1: everything in your life. Right, That's what Manifestella is saying.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta hold out for the man who's gonna fix everything.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta demand that the man fix everything. She breathes
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  Speaker 1: and poops and eats for you. He's your life support system,
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  Speaker 1: and you only exist is a mere thought, a mere fart,
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  Speaker 1: mental fart.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing else. Yeah, I mean, exists is a mental fart,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: But you imagine, imagine in every way, you should deny
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  Speaker 1: your own ability because any any time that you have
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  Speaker 1: to take a least amount of responsibility or effort for yourself,
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  Speaker 1: that is some man making it of life unfair for you.
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  Speaker 1: And then she invites women to live in that state,
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  Speaker 1: and she gives them the opposite of tools to find
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  Speaker 1: that life support system that she then makes almost critical
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  Speaker 1: for them for their own existence. You see what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: She's constructing absolute need in women and this kind of
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  Speaker 1: self righteous belief of denying your own ability to affect
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  Speaker 1: any kind of positive outcome in your life.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: That you need.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: That you are owed all of this, You are owed
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a life support system, and then she gives them no
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: ability to get one. So what happens when you listen
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to manifestel. You incorporate all of this into you, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: no man comes to save you. You have become the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: human equivalent of protoplasm. Okay, I will shut up now.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Oh it just makes me think of that hobbling scene
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: from Misery. That's basically what she's doing. Imagine being someone
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: who say, what a problem comes up in your life,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: something something sucks, and you know you have the beebest
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: moment this sucks, change it, and you're not the person
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: who steps up and actually does that. You have to
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: wait because you're a woman, and you can't fix it
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: because women don't fix their own stuff. You wait for
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a dude to come along and fix it for you,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: and if you're not satisfied with it, you just have
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: to deal with it or whine it him until he
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: changes the way he's doing it. So you can't you
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: get a second job and pay your own bills. You
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: can't learn to fix your car, you can't stop talking
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: to somebody who's an asshole to you because you have
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: to have a guy fix it for you. And you
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: have that in every aspect of your life, but most
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: of all in your relationships. So you can't get into
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: a relationship with a guy unless somebody comes along and
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: fixes it for you. You can't pick mister Wright unless somebody
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: tells you who to date and what qualities to look for,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and then he has to be responsible for your happiness.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: You can't make yourself happy. That would be the most
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: miserable existence I could possibly imagine. I would rather die.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Do you get that feeling when you listen to these women,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: don't you? Although I mean, like I said, manifest del's
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: making bank.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: No, she is making bank, but promoting misery.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I wonder if she's selling other people a bill of
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: goods that she doesn't believe in, like you know, the
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: drug dealer that doesn't use their own supply, or if
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: she's more like the drug dealer that sells to support
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: their habit.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Mmm, don't know.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I mean she at the camera could stop roll and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: she pulls off the face and it's just some wholesome
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you know, uh Asian WIFEU with a husband and five children.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's But I honestly, I honestly wonder, and I
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: think if she I think if it was an act,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: she'd have eyebrows. I'm going to go back to this
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: because so far she's she's kind of confirming my suspicions.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: She doesn't care about what what like what she's talking about.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: You notice that she hasn't said anything about dads or
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: partners in any way that you know. I looked for
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: a guy that I wanted to take care of, not baby,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: but you know when I was dating, I wanted a
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: partner that I would be mutually invested in, is invested
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: in his welfare as he would be in mind.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And I don't think she mentioned anything like that. She
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: just everything was about what what can you do for me?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Not you know, what can we do for each other?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: What can we be to each other?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Well, fair enough, but she has been just talking about
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a dad. The thing is that the thing is that
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: she fails to recognize that the most critical part of
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a father is the boundaries that you learn from him,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: not the gifts that you get from him, but boundaries.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: And care other characteristics Like your dad teaches you responsibility
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and accountability. Your dad teaches you sportsmanship. Your dad teaches
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: you try again over and over again until you get
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: it done or get it right. You know, there's a
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: lot of things your dad, those are gifts.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: That teaches you how to take criticism.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like a lot of a lot of
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: gals will sit around and talk about things their dad
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: gave them. I don't think so much of objects and wealth,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: physical wealth, material wealth. That my dad did what he
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: could and it was great, you know, and everything, and
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I really appreciate everything he did. But the things I
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: appreciate the most were those things where I learned life
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: skills and character, things that would help me be a
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: better person and do better in my life and do
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: better in my relationships. Like those are the most important things.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, So do we have another timecode for this one?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Brian?
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Do you want me to just go to the next one.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, she does talk about how to make your
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: own home Depot Dad, And then there's a section called
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: man how to make your own home Depot Dad.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, and then there's a section starting with adopting some
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: old guy that doesn't know you.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: No. I think it's about like either trying to change
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: your father into someone that is essentially gonna help you
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: get that bag while also securing your own bag, or
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: it's about how to train the men in your life
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: to be like that so that when you have children
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: with them. Because she did start this section by saying, A,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: you know, you can't choose your father, right, But the
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: truth is that your mother did choose your father. So
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: are you attacking your mom when you criticize like the
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: dad's because that I mean obviously not they they didn't
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: know that it's patriarchy covered their eyes.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like it's it's starting to feel like you
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: do know, I mean, if the guy has two other
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: baby mamas, you pretty much.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: To the obviously yes, obviously, but she won't do that. Instead,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: we're just gonna say that, you know, dead beat men
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: are the problem, and not that women choose to sleep
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: with dead beat men or have kids with dead beat men,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: but just the fact that they exist. And yet when
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: women reward dead beat men by having kids with them,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: then other dead beat men will be like, well, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: guess we're just gonna get laid now. Because they're not
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: picking based on their values or whether or not they're
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: gonna stick around. They're picking based on fifees and like, oh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I like the way he makes me tingle, I'm gonna
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: have sex with him unprotected, and if I have a kid,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the government cover it. There's no there's no consequences, So
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: they're Yeah, the women are creating the problem. They're creating
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: the problem, and they're perpetuating the problem, and they're just
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: blaming men. And it's like there's plenty of men who
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: are like, well, look, I don't want to do any
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: of that, but I can't get the time of day.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: But the men who are perpetuating that, they have no
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: reason to stop or change their behavior. Why would they
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: They literally don't have to do it. So yeah, I mean,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know. People are not gonna learn as I mean,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: that's all I can say. They're not gonna learn.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: No, they're not gonna learn.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And part of fatherlessness behavior is a lack of impulse control. Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and and that's unfortunate.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would bet that it's multi generational. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: would bet that girls would fatherless behavior have mothers who
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: also exhibited fatherless behavior. And and I'm and I would
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: think that with Ldren exactly. So like this is but
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: we'll never address it because we don't want to hurt
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: women's feelings. So you know, but anyway, let's uh, do
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: you want to do you want to get.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: You want to hurt women's feelings?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: We just want them to be hurt.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, instead of actually criticizing women, we'll just let them
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: fall off the cliff and dash themselves in the rocks below.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's the better outcome. That's the outcome that means you
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: care about women. Yeah, okay, all right, let's let's just continue.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna play the men hate good men's section.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: And I know that obviously a mother's love is also
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: important and powerful. But we live in a world, in
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: a society where young girls and women absolutely look to men,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: father figures, fathers for validation, for reinforcement, for love and affection,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: especially if these young girls grow up to be women
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: who date men. You know, like, there's this thing she's
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: not wrong, no no.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: No, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: wait what did she leave out? What did she leave out?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Let's go back again. I want you to listen to this.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: I want you to listen to this. Okay, what is
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: it she's expecting men are supposed to give to women?
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Where young girls and women absolutely look to men, father figures,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: fathers for validation for reinforcement, for love and affection.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: So that's been mention any kind of guidance. And that's
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the thing, Like I I don't think I ever looked
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: to my dad for validation. I looked for it, look
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: to him for guidance. And sometimes that guidance came in
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: the form of, Okay, you got it now. But it's
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: not you're a good person, you're the best, you're the smartest,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: you're the prettiest, whatever. You know. Women and girls look
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: to their dads for validation about it was I'm satisfied
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: with what you've done, you know, or I'm particularly happy
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: with what you've done. I'm glad that you got it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if you have to have validation
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: from other people all the time. It's not a sign
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: that you're trying to do the right thing. It's a
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: sign that you're insecure. It's a difference between it's vanity,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: differ between taking satisfaction and a job well done because
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: you know that the effect that the job was created
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to have is going to take place. And I always
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: use the same thing when I talk about this cleaning
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: up toilet right, because people think about jobs that are prestigious,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and they think about jobs that are high paying and stuff.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: When you clean a toilet, like I clean toilets as
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: part of my job, and I do it the absolute
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: best I can when I get done, it's it's clean,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: it's shiny, and it doesn't stink, it doesn't have germs
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: all over it. The next person who sits down isn't
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: going to be thinking, gosh, I wish I didn't have
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to do this here. Right then they won't have to
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: think about the toilet. And that's pretty much my goal.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want somebody to come in and say, oh, look,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: how beautiful the toilet is. Hanna did such a great job.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want them to have to think about the toilet.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: And if your goal in life is to make yourself
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: instead of the job, the effects that the job you're
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: doing are supposed to have the important thing, the center
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: and the thing that people think about the whole time.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, you're a failure. You know, unless the
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: job is entertaining people and getting them talking about you,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: like I would exclude, you know, entertainers that are maybe
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: well gosh, even singers. It's more about your voice. Instrument players,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: it's more about your instrument actors. It's more about the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: role you play. But the goal there has you have
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: to have that for pr right, but for the most part,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: for most jobs, the goal is to have people be
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: satisfied with what you did. And I think women miss
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: out a lot on that sense of satisfaction in their life,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: and they've replaced it with this narcissism where validation is
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: important to them because they don't have that satisfaction and
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: it really holds them back, right back to the misery
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: cripple moment, you know, where she breaks his leg or
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: cuts it off or whatever. I didn't watch the movie
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: because I had read part of the book and it
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: just it's one of the few books I couldn't stumb.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, miserly is literally like what tumbl arenas that
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: we write books. Yeah, like, that's literally the main villain
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: of that story. But anyway, I'm sorry, Alison, go ahead, No.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: It's okay. That's what I was thinking. And validation, now,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I think she's right. Women do look for men for validation.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: The problem is that I think what they're looking for
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: is validation not in terms of you've done a good job,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you know, or this is this is this is well done,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: or these skills are up to snuff that kind of thing.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: They're looking for validation the way they look for validation
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: from women, which is we are all good right now,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: having done nothing.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: We're all we're all wonderful.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And maybe part of the reason why women feel that
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: men are cold is because I don't think men do
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: validation like that, that, oh, we're all fine, we're all great,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: we're all we're all perfect tens, we're all beautiful, we're
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: all sparkly. You know, they don't do that kind of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: like lukewarm, frankly meaningless. In my opinion, maybe it isn't.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe there's something about that development of like a this
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: kind of warm sociality that is important. I don't quite
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: see it, but then I'm an autist, so don't quote
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: me on that.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: But you know it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: But you're probably not going to get it from men
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: because I think you listen to Brian and I don't think.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I think men are inherently disgusted by it. And it's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: because it doesn't have that component of earning like they.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: You have to earn it. You have to develop a skill,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you have to demonstrate a skill, you have to be
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: good at something to have earned that sense of personal worth.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And it's like, when we look at this woman, you
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: have to realize that that entire avenue for developing personal
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: worth is gone for her like gone. And the other
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: thing is that she relies for personal worth on a
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: source that will inevitably fail her. That's why we call
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it hitting the wall. Right, she will at one point
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: have no source of personal worth, and she will have
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: constructed a persona very much reliant on it, very much
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: about denying learning any kind of self reliance. So, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: that's the thing, Like you base your personal worth on
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: this kind of fatuous praise. You get that fatuous praise
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: because you are attractive and young and you're a woman.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: When that ends, what's left?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: And she is encouraging women to only base their self
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: worth on this kind of fatuous praise and what they
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: can get men to do for them, not what they
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: can do for themselves. So when they hit that moment
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: when it no longer works, what then? And she doesn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: like she either? Maybe she does recognize this and she
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: actually develops that secondary engine secretly without telling her her
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: viewership about her about it. But that makes her it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: effectively a con artist, right, or she hasn't developed that
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: second engine.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: But what then?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: What happens when Manifestel looks like an Asian grandma? All right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and she has developed no skills, no abilities, no virtues,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: no wisdom, nothing. She's just an old, wrinkly woman with
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: this attitude.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: She's going to be she is going to be.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because people talk about in cells,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: But I guess a woman in this kind of society
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: where everything is very atomized, who develops absolutely nothing, no
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: other value proposition than her looks, what happens to her
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: when those looks fade?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: That sounds to me like it's the inverse of an insuell.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And that is her future, and that's the future of
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: all the women that listen to her. That's your future.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You're gonna be.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Alone, You're gonna be ugly, and you're gonna have nothing,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and you will have pushed away everyone in your life,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: including the women.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: All Right, all right, I.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Got a superchow from Zaranks for five dollars. He says,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: if women receive guidance, does it look like said guidance took?
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I keep remarking about how much worse so many women
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: are compared to the girls they used to be when
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: they would be grounded or lose privileges. It's like they
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: bided their time to when they aren't held by the
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: rules of their fathers.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: That may be because they didn't have dads, or it
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: may be because their moms undermine their dads. And there's
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: two ways that I see that happening among other women.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: And I've seen it happening growing up as a kid
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: among the mothers of my friends. You know, like my mom,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: if my dad put his foot down on something, if
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I went whining to my mom, she would add a
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: punishment on top of that for me trying to go
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: behind his back. You know, your dad told you this.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: You tried to come and turn me against your father
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: on this. No, now you're gonna, you know, scrub the
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: kitchen floor like you cannot do that. And there are
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of times where women will just treat their
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: husband like he's too harsh. You know you've been your
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: punishment's too harsh. You don't do that in front of
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: your kid. If you really disagree with them and you
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: have something to say, you wait until the kids are away,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: and you ask questions and make suggestions, and then you
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: let it stand. If he doesn't change his mind, you
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: let it stand because if you don't, you teach your
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: daughter the authority doesn't matter, and that when she encounters
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: consequences for her actions. There's going to be a rescue
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: and it's really a bad thing to teach a kid.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: And like, you can't do that to a girl if
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: you want her to grow up and be able to
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: live her life without essentially facing a bunch of consequences
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: that she can't escape because she expects to be able
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: to escape them and does stupid things. It's really dangerous
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: to do that, you know. And it's like I noticed
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: somebody in one of our chats talking about, you know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: his daughter or as heroes, and the first thing I
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: thought is, God, I hope they're adults. And it looks
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: like they are because ones and the are nurse and
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the other one started her own business. So okay, you
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: can call him that as adults. That's that's one thing.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: But when you say that to your six year old
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: who hasn't done anything yet, what you're telling her is
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: she doesn't have to have any character in order to
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: get credit for having character. She doesn't have to learn
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: math in order to get an A in math. She
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to, you know, become a nice person in
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: order for people to have to treat her like she's
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: a nice person. You can be somebody's hero without doing
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: anything heroic, and therefore you know you don't have to
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: put in any effort. And it's the worst thing you
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: can teach a girl, because you know, you teach a
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: boy that, as he's growing up, the world outside of
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: your home is going to knock him on his ass
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: enough times, he's still going to learn the right lesson.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: But if you teach a girl that, every time world
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: outside tries to do that to her, she's going to
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: get somebody else in trouble for it. And so she's
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: going to run around as a bull in a china
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: shop in other people's lives, and she will never learn,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: and she will make herself miserable, and then she will
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: make everyone else around her miserable. And then she will
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: get to be my age, and she'll be single, have
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: no children, have twenty seven cats, and wonder why she's
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: not happy, yeap.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Most freest generation of women in human history, most miserable
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: generation of women in human history.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: You know, we freed women.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: We forgot to tell them that you need to take
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: responsibility for your own choices because you're the only one
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: who can, all right, So you know what, I just
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: put this naddie Kadaffi in like a time out. She's like,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: she's being very insulting and I for some reason, YouTube
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: just deleted her messages, which was really unintentional. I don't
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: know why the YouTube would do that, Like, just why
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: not just allow your people to moderate but not delete
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: their messages.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose it's a blanket thing. They assume if
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: you stop somebody from commenting, they must have said something
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: really inappropriate.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: I got another I got another superchow from Urushima who
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: gave us ten dollars and said, hey, finally a stream
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I can catch live too bad. It's about this absolute
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: waste of perfectly good carbon atoms. I wonder what her
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: relationship status is. We don't know, but we assume that
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: she does have a man. So again, I wouldn't.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Why do we assume that, Well, I wouldn't assume that,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: But if if she does, I would wonder if she's
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: emotionally abusing him.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's possible, but the thing is, like men
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: will put up with a lot of bullshit in a relationship. So,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: like I'm saying, let's not presume that she is uncapable
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: or capable of being in a relationship or or like,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: we don't know, we can only speculate. So what I'm
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: saying is she might be she's not interested, like she
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: doesn't have a ring. But that's like she doesn't seem
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: like the type that wants to get married until the
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: man is absolutely perfect. Like this is she's basically from
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: the school of thought as the female dating strategy. Okay,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: so this is as cutthroat and mercenary as it gets.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: This doesn't mean that she doesn't have a man, because
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: there is a simp born every minute, and there is
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: probably she's probably got more than one man. She's probably
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: got orbiters taking her out on dates, buying her stuff,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: you know, treating her to the town. And of course
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: they think that she's the prize because she has so
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: many options and they want to win. So let I mean,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: that's possible, so let's not let's not engage in. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: guess it's like speculative, you know, assumcity about her like
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: being alone and angry and gonna end up with cats
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: because honestly, evil people win all the time. So she
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: could end up and have a really great life and
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: just be this absolute bitch too. I mean, it's entirely possible.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: So do not underestimate simps full stop.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: And I mean one of the things that needs to
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: change dramatically. You know, men talk about, you know, how
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: can we fix women? How can we fix women? And
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I just I just went on a rant about that
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: on X yesterday or day before some sometime recently. You can't.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: You can't fix women. Okay. Women's problems are not caused
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: by external factors. Women's problems are internal. Women are safety
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: and not addicted, and they are entitlement entitlement addicted, and
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of it is that, you know, yeah, they
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: haven't ever learned to be different than that. A lot
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: of them have never grown up, They've never matured. Maybe
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: they didn't have the upbringing that you had. In fact,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: if you're male, they definitely had nothing like the upbringing
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: that you had. And they don't have any reason to
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: understand life the way that you understand life. And so
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: if you try to fix women, all you're going to
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: do is get spat on and stepped on and treated
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: like a threat. Women have to fix themselves, and the
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: only way to deal with that, to allow that to happen,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: is to do the same thing that you have to
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: do with a drug addict right, Stop paying women to
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: make stupid choices, stop paying their bills, stop enabling them,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: step back and give women the space they need to
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: fall on their asses, and then have to sit there
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: and think about how did this happen? How did I
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: end up here? What do I do now? And figure
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: out that they need to do better themselves, that they
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: can't just rely on entitlements and safety nets, that they
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: have to act like adults, and it's going to be generational.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: It's going to take more than a whole generation for
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: women to go anywhere near back to being the kind
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: of partners that they were before feminism, before the level
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: of kind of centrism that we see now. You know,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: if you've got daughters, raise them like their sons in
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: every way that matters, every way that develops character. You know,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: you still have to raise them like they're the ones
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: that have the keys to the uterus, right, but raise
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: them like a boy that has the keys to the uterus.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: It's responsible for guarding it and not the person who's
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: vulnerable to having it used against their will, right, the
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: keys to the castle where the children are living. Because
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: that's what women used to be and women can be
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: that again, but you can't make it happen. Women have
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: to do that. Women have to be responsible for themselves.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I think that we're starting to see that more and
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: more with the number of men who are just opting
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: out of dating entirely. And I mean, that's just going
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: to get worse. And the thing is that it's it's
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: almost like it's self correcting. Is women like Manifestel go
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: on YouTube and promote her attitude, there are more men
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: like I guarantee that Manifestel has ensured that a good
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: percentage of the female population will remain single because men
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: look at this and they say, no, I don't want
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: it at all.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: So should we move on, yeah, the next video, because we.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Were going you don't want to do Yeah, I guess so,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I guess so. So there's no other.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Time coaching, mean, there there could be, but I mean,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: we got three other videos, and you guys chattered quite
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: a bit on this, just a little bit of this video,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: so I don't know how much time we can get
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: to the other parts.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, all right, yeah, y'all knew how verbos I
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: was before you asked me to come on and do this,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: so I know how.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Verbos you are. But Alison is the one that said,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: let's do four videos. Fuck it, fuck it, Let's just
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: do like the Lord of the Rings trilogy of videos,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fine, we'll go to the next what
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: is time.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, which I don't have.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: The next one, let me let me pull it up.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: So we got Women's hold some obsession with sex workers,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: the village disappeared, now what, and I married a monster.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Let's go to women's.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Obsession with wholesome obsession with sex workers.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, this one is also pretty cringe. So
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I'll read the summary and well, we'll see, we'll like
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: go to a Okay, I just wanted to find the
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: timecodes too, so because this one doesn't have chapters, she's
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: a little inconsistent on putting chapters in. So the summary
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: is this conversation explores the use the rise of three
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: oh four talk, which is talk is in TikTok and
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: three four is in hoe. I don't know why people
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: don't want to just be direct and say the thing
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: that we're talking about. Instead they talk around it, like
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: why are we doing that? It's like saying the N word.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: You're putting the word in my mind when you say that, So, like,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: what do we even pretending to do? But anyway, the
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: normalization of sex work in contemporary culture, particularly through platforms
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: like TikTok, The discussion delves into the complexities of empowerment
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: versus exploitation within the sex work industry, examining historical contexts,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: cultural perceptions, and the intersectionality of experiences among workers. The
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: host emphasizes the importance of recognizing shared experiences among women
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: because that's what it's always about, regardless of their roles
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: and challenges societal stigma surrounding sex work.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Before we get into this, I just want
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: to point out that I believe Manifestel was one of
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: the people who piled on that homemaker because of the
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: egg apron.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah you remember that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: So this man there was a.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Homemaker egg apron gate. I'll explain it to you, Hannah.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: There is a homesteading woman who used to be a ballerina,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: and she left being a ballerina to be to stay
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: at home to create a farm, to raise children.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Start a family like a farm.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And her husband for her birthday got her
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: an egg apron and she was thrilled to get this
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: egg apron and manifestel and all of her and that
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the host of harpies descended on this woman and her
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: egg apron and said it was a sign of oppression
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that her husband got her a practical item related to
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: her chosen vocation, which was homesteading, right because she wants
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to pick eggs for her family's breakfasts.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't even like just a random egg just
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: she he just threw it in a car.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: He actually found this egg apron in like Europe, so
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it was a very specific and even referred to it
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: as your egg apron. So this obviously was something that
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: she wanted that she expressed at some point that he
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: picked up on and got it to her for her birthday.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Despite all that, this woman said that that was a
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: sign of oppression. And now we're going into talking about
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: how sex were is like that what was bad? But
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: sex work? You know that we're we're we we were
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be okay with that.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: I just have to point out buying her that egg
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: apron wasn't just getting her something she liked. It wasn't
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: even giving her something really special or expensive that she liked.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: It was I support the choice that you've made. Yes,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: it is exactly the thing that she just said that
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: was validation, and she couldn't recognize it because what was
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: being validated was work.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, her husband recognized that this was an important job
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to her, recognized that there was a specific tool she
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to use that job, remembered all that and got
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it for her on her birthday, and she couldn't. The
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: crowd of harpies couldn't understand it at all. But now
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go in and not just that, we're gonna
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: talk about how sex work is somehow less less exploitative
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: than that man getting his wife an egg apron.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I'm just pointing that out.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out where we're at here with this nonsense,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: with this freaking conversation.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: All of feminism is basically, you justify any decision that
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: a woman makes as long as it does not involve
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: men or family, and you justify it, and then you
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: have to work backwards to actually rationalize it. That's all
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: it is. That's what she's doing.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: And everything men do has to be wrong.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everything men is bad, great, all of.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: That, there has to be something wrong with it. Wow,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: you just scream to the heavens. I want validation. I
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: want validation. Okay, here's your validation.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: You validated the wrong thing, the validation. How dare you
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: think I need your validation? It's it's endless this Who
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: is this Natty Kidaffy.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: It's Natty Alison?
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, because I was thinking she doesn't have much in
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: terms of the terms of staying powder. It's but her
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: name is Natty Nato.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: It's fucking Natty Allison. And you and when you blocked her,
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: you just validated her. By the way, she's going to
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: basically like champion on the streets. But she just left
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: it up and just left her alone.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: But yeah, your time out because she was just con
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: She's coming in with constant, like two insults in a row,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Like I would undo it, but I don't know how
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: because YouTube is being a dick, like.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Okay this because I'm watching the chats, but YouTube keeps
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: I have it on live live chat, and then after
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: a period of time, YouTube switches it back to top chat.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Like if that's what I wanted, that's what I would
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: have selected.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, so I got a super chow from mister
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: playlist Man, who gave us fifty dollars. Thank you, mister
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: playlist man, really appreciate it. He says, Hello, badgers, I
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: sent this message to a home math stream and want
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: to know your thoughts. I got situation. A friend of
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: mine was taken advantage of graped because her drink was spiked.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: She refuses to report the name of the guide to authorities,
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: saying they won't believe her. Feminists talk plenty about grape culture.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: I noticed her reasons not to report were they're talking
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: points a decade ago. This seems to help the rapist.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, rape Okay, this is like really annoying.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm I'm an eleven year old. Do
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: you think they were aware that their activism would actually
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: enable victimizers to get away more frequently? Well, yeah, I
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: think that it is because they want to perpetuate it
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: so that they can claim that it exists. So yeah,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: that's on purpose. Like the people who put these policies
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: and these studies out here and all this like bullshit
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: propaganda funded by the fucking CIA, by the way, they
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: do that on purpose because it creates more instances so
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: they can further justify doing more of this shit and
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: getting more money. So yeah, it's totally by design. They're
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: not they're safe from this stuff. By the way, it's
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: not going to happen to them.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I need to answer to this, okay, because this is
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: something that I I that have the okay, yes, and
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: in fact, feminists have specifically chosen to increase or maintain
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: the rate of rape in order to promote their ideology.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: And I will say that outright. There was a time
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: in the eighties where the the like the the work
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: into this field was more in psychology and sociology. It
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't dominated by feminists, and feminists had a discussion over
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: whether or not to promote interventions which would would potentially
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: reduce the rate of rape but ran counter to their ideology,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and of course the ideology one, so they literally blocked
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and refused to support or promote interventions that would have
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: reduced the rate at which women were raped because it
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: didn't fall in line with their ideology. They put their
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: ideology first ahead of women. And when I realized this,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and then there was another piece that fell into place
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: after the Amber Herd trial, when there was a feminist
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: director of an NGO who said that the trial was
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: a bad trial because they didn't get in the funds
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: that they wanted. And I realized that all of this
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: is to promote their ideology and promote their ability to
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: make money and have clout as a result of that ideology.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: And furthermore, I can speak specifically to the situation that
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: your friend is in. No the authorities will take it seriously.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: And in fact, rape in the US is prosecuted and
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: ends in a conviction eight times more than any other
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: violent crime. Eight times so other violent crimes and in
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: conviction two percent. Like I mean, in the process, the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: process is difficult, right, It's not going to be easy,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: and maybe that's one of the things that are pushing away.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: But the idea that she is not going to get
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a conviction is ridiculous. Of course, the window has closed
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: to find out whether or not she was indeed subject
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to a date rape drug, So I'm it's going to
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: be difficult now. But the idea that women cannot get
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: convictions for sexual assault is an unbelievably nasty feminist fiction.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: If you report, and if it is credible, and if
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it is actually a crime, you are more likely to
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: get a conviction for sexual assault than any other crime
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: in the UK and in the US BAM, So don't
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: listen to the feminists. Do indeed report it, and do
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: not listen to any men who say, oh, well, it's
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: just I'm just doing what all.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Men you No bullshit.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Rapists know what they are and they are specifically looking
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: for rape.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: If you don't want.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: To do it for yourself, do it for the next
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: woman or man, because a lot of rapists are indiscriminate. Right,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: So this is this is absolute, but this is pernicious bullshit.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: The feminists, in their pursuit of power and money, have
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: made the world worse for women, And just that just
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: blew my flip in mind. When I realized it, I'm like,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: it's one thing for feminists not to advocate for men. Yeah,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's horrible, of course, because I am a
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: men's issues advocate. But at the same time, if they
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: want to specialize, so be it. But then I realized
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: the only realizing the only reason why they specialize in
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: women is because women make a tasty steak when they're slaughtered.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: That's it. They specialize in women because women make money
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: They're freaking.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Pimps. It's unfreaking believable. That the idea that they don't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: even care about women are fine. They don't care about men,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: that's par for the course.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: But they don't even care about women.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: They use women and women's causes to make money for themselves.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I also have something to say about this,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: and it's probably not gonna be very popular, but there
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: have been a couple of studies into the whole date
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: rape drug phenomenon, and the overwhelming majority of the time
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: when a gal thinks that she has been subjected to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: a date rape drug, she actually just drank more than
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: she realized or paid attention to and did something she
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have done and is now blaming it on a guy.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: And it's not that it's wise to have sex with
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: somebody who's been drinking, and frankly, I would advise hookup
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: culture at all. But don't you know, unless you really know,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: like somebody saw this girl get drugged and then somebody else,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: you know, another witness, can attest to the fact that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: the rape happened and that it was somebody taking advantage
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: of her and being incapacitated. Because if you if you
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: had the experience that I have, like I grew up
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: in an area where drinking was very frequent and common
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: among young people, like you've you've heard probably of this
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Steubenville case from back in twenty twelve where Anonymous got involved.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: I grew up in northwest Ohio, not northeast Ohio, but
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: that whole area of the state, and probably the southern
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: part of the state as well. It's very largely a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: teen drinking culture and has been for decade. And I've
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: seen lots of gals who will have a few beers
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: or several and then grabbed the nearest guy by the shirt,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: drag him off to another room and fuck him. And
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: I hate to be that blunt, but that's the fact.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: And you know, some of the gals I went to
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: college with behaved that way for a few years and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: then took gender studies and then came out of it
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: and went, oh my god, I've been ripped like thirty
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: seven times. No, you haven't. If it was your idea
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: and you grabbed that guy by the shirt and dragged
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: him off into a room and fucked him, he didn't
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: do something to you. Your actions still matter even if
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: you're drunk. That's not just a standard that applies to men.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: So I don't want to hear this chick is a
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: victim until there's evidence, and if she took measures to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: avoid the evidence, waited until it was too late, refuse
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: to go to the cops, to me, that indicates that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: the evidence doesn't support what she's saying. And I don't
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: know your friend. You know your friend, you know whether
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: you can trust her or not, And I don't. But
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I do know that most of the Galles that I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: have had experience with, I wouldn't believe them. If they
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: told me that story. I would think maybe they believed it,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: but it might not necessarily be true. And a lot
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: of times they believe it because, like Alison talked about,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: that's that narrative that feminists give them. Yeah, they don't
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: necessarily believe it because that's what happened.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: There's that, But then there's also the possibility because sometimes.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: It is sometimes it is what happened, but it.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Is what happened. And now.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: There's no way to determine that because they didn't go
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: to the police because feminists told her that she won't
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: get a fair shake.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Just from my perspective, in an unknown case, like say,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I know absolutely nothing else about the case, I know
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: nothing about the gal I know nothing about people involved.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: There's that there's a much larger chance that it's a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: situation where there was no rape and you know, maybe
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: there wasn't even any sex.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually a full of.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Instances where gals have thought that they had been sexually
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: assaulted when nobody touched them and it's just you know,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: they woke up next to a guy who was also
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: passed out.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Hmmm.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: So mister playlist man has sent a few more super chowds.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should read them.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: I'd like to read those. Okay, So mister playlist man
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: sent a super chat for ten and said send a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: superchow appreciate you guys. That was the one we just
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: read and responded to, And then he sent another super
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: chat that says thanks Alison. I tried to make the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: same arguments with helping slash saving the next victim, but
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: she couldn't bring herself to go and our relationship ended
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: because of it. Well, that sounds like she doesn't really
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: care about other victims then, Because what, at the very least,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: you should report based on the fact that you don't
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: want this person to harm somebody else in the future.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: But if you don't report because feminists are convinced. They've
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: convinced you that it's pointless. That seems like you are
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: so concerned that you'll look bad because you may have,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: you know, filed a report pointlessly, which is basically just
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: you protecting your own ego instead of protecting somebody else.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Assuming that this is all legit and you're not just
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: full of shit, or you have not somehow convinced yourself
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: that something happened that may not have happened. I don't know.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying, at the end of the day,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: put your ego aside and do the right thing. That's
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: what you have to do. If you don't do that,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: then I don't have a lot of sympathy. So anyway,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Then he gets a another super chat for five and says,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: for context, she used to be an ex and it
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: happened two months after I moved out. Okay, thank you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: for that. I don't know if there's anything else here,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: super Chow.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: No, I went to her ex and said, oh I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: was raped. That's that's what that sounds like.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe they were friends forwards or whatever.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: But if that that can be a situation where the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: woman is trying to get him to White Knight for
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: her and come back because he feels like the night
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: shining armor that's coming down. This rescue her from the
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: terrible situation. It's not always the same like some Sometimes
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: I can still be legitimate, you know, if you stayed
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: friends and you know you were. But there's another aspect
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: to this that I'm going to point out. So feminists
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: have been saying for at least seventy years that girls
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: who go get drunk at parties, this happens to them,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: and nobody cares. All right, So when I was growing
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: up and I was in school, even though I was
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: stupid about which guys I dated, I didn't go get
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: drunk at parties, right, I hung out with gals, it did,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: and I even went to a couple of parties, But
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't go get drunk at parties. And I didn't
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: go as a single gal either, because you know, you
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: get told that you go get drunk at a party,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: this might happen to you. If you don't want that
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: to happen to you, then you don't go get drunk
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: at a party. That's if you know you're at risk.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Just like if I thought a high percentage of people
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: who got on a bicycle broke their neck. I'd never
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: ride a bicycle. I don't ride a motorcycle because of
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: the number of accidents that happen with motorcycles that are
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: fatal or well. Well, I've worked in healthcare and I've
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: taken care of some people that have had catastrophic motorcycle accidents,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: and you couldn't pay me to get on one of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: those things, especially not in city traffic. But in any case,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: that's that's the way that I figure I would act.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not going to do this because it's
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: it's too risky. So when women hear all their lives,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: if you go into this environment and you behave this
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: specific way, it creates a high risk that you're going
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: to get hurt. And then they go into that environment
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: and they behave that way. It's not proof that they
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: wanted to get hurt, but it's just about the stupidest
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: and most careless thing you can do. And it goes
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: right back to my statement about stop paying women to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: make stupid choices, right, Stop cleaning up after girls, stop
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: coddling them, raise them to make better choices. If you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: love your daughters, if you love your sister, if you
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: love your female friends, teach them to make better choices,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: show an expectation that they make better choices, Encourage them
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: to not get hurt instead of cleaning up the mess
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: all the time.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this we've sort of derailed this into like
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: the I mean not It's not a bad thing at all,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: because this is stuff that needs to be taken. Although
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I think one of the other videos is more topical
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: to this particular super chat. I think that this what's happening,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: mister playlist man is a little sketch. I'm not what
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I'm actually curious what home Math said about it. If
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: you want, you can just send a message in the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: in the in the in the chat window.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: I I I think we should finish off this video
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: because we're gonna be here forever.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, So all right, this is about the sex work.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: So she is basically saying women who are not sex workers,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: and she includes herself in this, are just like all
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: about this three h four talk where sex workers talk
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: about like how you know how much money they're making
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: So and I think we are getting to the part
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: of a weakening where we are seeing that as women,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: we are no different than the quote unquote three oh
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: fours who participate in S work or fs work because
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: under patriarchy, we are all women, we are all housewives,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: and we are all s workers. In a world where
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: in general men sexualized women at every interaction, it goes
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: to show.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: That, actually, manifest you can solve this problem easily. Just
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: pay for the men. Yeah, just pay for the man's time.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Have a house husband, you know, get get yourself a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: younger man who will appreciate you paying for his hobbies
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: and his food, you know, in his in his entertainment.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: There. Now, you're not a sex worker, I'm guessing I don't.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: But she doesn't. She doesn't want to fix any problems.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: She's not going.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: To tolerate the fix She doesn't she doesn't recognize the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: agency in the situation. All Right, men don't sexualize women.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Very very very few men in the world ever sexualized women.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Men respond when women sexualize themselves. Women sexualize themselves all
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: the time. Right, It's it's a constant process, and it's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: some of it's instinctive, and some of it's a response
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: to liking the attention they get, right, and some of
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: it is just women like sex too, and women should
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: be allowed to make those choices for themselves, all right,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: But if you're going to make those choices for yourself,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: you don't get to blame somebody else when you don't
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: like the outcome. So, if you're not cut out to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: be a sex worker, don't complain when you get when
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: you act like a sex worker and you get treated
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: like a sex worker.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: And then at the same time, if you're not a
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: sex worker and you're living vicariously through one, Oh, look
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: at all the attention this woman gets. I would love
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: to have that same attention. I don't have the constitution
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: or the stoicism to do that job and get that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: attention and enjoy that reward. I would be miserable. And
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: that's like I wouldn't want to do that job. I
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: would be miserable. Okay, So I haven't tried it, and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not obsessed with doing that job because of that.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: I think most people are not cut not cut out
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: to do that job. I think most people that do
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: that job are not cut out to do that job.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: And so you don't get to live vicariously through them
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: and then call them victims. You don't get to live
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: vicariously through them and then play victim of their lives. Right,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: you be who you are and you enjoy your life,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: and you let them be who they are and make
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: their own decisions and deal with the consequences or get
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: the rewards or whatever and leave it at that. But
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: she doesn't understand any of that agency, and instead she
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: has to create a victim narrative and then blame men
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: for women's choices. Everything she's talking about there is women
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: making decisions what to do with their own bodies, right,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Women making decisions what to do in terms of their
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: own relationships, and women making choices in what kind of
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: work they're going to do, how they're going to earn
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: their money. Nothing in that is men's fault. Nobody hooked
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: you around the neck and forced you to become a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: porn star. Right, You either do it or you don't.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: Don't be jealous if somebody else does it, and don't
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: be treating men like there to blame for some victimy
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: experience if somebody else does it.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Some victimy victim, victim.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Victim yeah, victim victimitis, yeah, victim, it's a victimhood.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: What I think she's doing is again, this is the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: same thing deploy feminist logic then work backwards to justify it.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: So essentially, sex work is real work. This is what
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: her claim is. Therefore, because it's women that are involved,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: we must support them, even if we ourselves wouldn't do it.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: How do we do that, Well, we have to make
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: them relatable. How do we make them relatable to? You know,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: how do we make prostitutes let's just call it what
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: it is. How do we make prostitutes relatable to regular
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: women like mothers and like regular women that don't want
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: to engage in that? Oh, I know, we'll say they're
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: all the same under patriarchy. Well, how does that work?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: One of them is chosen to be a wife and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: a mother and the other one's chosen to be a
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: hoe bag. Well, why don't we just say that all
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: wives and mothers are actually hose as well, and that
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: all hoes are mothers in some way, And then we'll
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: say we're all the same because men. So this is
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: what she is trying to do. This is basically the
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: the we're all in the sisterhood. Guys. No woman makes
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: a bad choice, unless, of course, she's a pick me,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: in which case she is, you know, exiled from the sisterhood.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: But you can do all the other things. You can
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: be a complete you know, prostitute, make lots of money
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: off of men. That means you're exploiting them, but also
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: you're a victim of them because of reasons. She goes
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: into like things like why you know it should be
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: like legalized so that women don't get pimped out or whatever.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: The criminalization is victimizing the women and all this other stuff.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: And yeah, so like that's basically the concept. The concept
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: is all women are the same no matter what their
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: job is because patriarchy. That's her that's her argument. I'm
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: not making that argument. I'm explaining her position. I'm explaining
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: feminist life.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I just want to point something out here.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: All right, So you have all of these women like
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: that manifeste represents saying that all these women they're sitting
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: in this I don't know, puddle of shit, just sitting
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: there in the puddle of ship, basting in their puddle
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: of shit, which is apparently sex work, which is the
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: exchange of their sex for stuff from men.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: And then you have pigmies like me.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Who are like, well, why would why don't you just
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: get out of the puddle of shit and just have
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: an equal exchange with a man. Therefore, you're not engaging
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: in sex work. You're actually creating a relationship. Or god forbid,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: maybe you spend more on a man than he spends
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: on you. Then they're Therefore, you're not in your puddle
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: of ship. You're not basting in your pile of shit,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you're not spreading manure all over you. Because you guys
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: are saying, oh, this is such exploitation. I'm so exploited
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: as you smear the ship yourselves by choice. Just get
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: out of the shit pile, all right, Just just have
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: some integrity, split things down the middle, go dutch, you know,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: pay for your own bills. Then you're not in the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: shit pile. And then and then you're just standing there
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: watching this and you're like, well, just get out of
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: the sh and they call you a pick me. Well,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: but you're the ones saying that you're in a pile
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: of shit, Like I don't get that. It's like you're
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: in your your I'm this is a pile of shit.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I'm so horrible. I can't believe I'm just in this shit.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: So just get out of it.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Then, like, don't you're saying, oh, it's it's so exploitative. Well,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: then just don't engage with men in that way. I'm
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: pretty sure you can find a man who's happy to
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: just go Dutch. Just split everything fifty to fifty, and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: then you're not a sex worker the end. Get out
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: of your pile of shit, and that's the only And
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: then they just sit there in their pile of shit
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: and call me a pick me for choosing not to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: get in the pile of shit that they say is
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: a pile shit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand this behavior.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Perhaps I was I had too much testosterone in the womb.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably what's going on here.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: Well, you weren't raised to make the mistakes that would
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: make someone believe that this behavior is understandable. And with
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: her it's even worse because she's not in the pile
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: of shit. She's pointing to women who are doing a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: job that she doesn't do and assuming that for them
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: it's being in a pile of shit. But you don't
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: know that. Some women get very upset if you accuse
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: them of being victimized because they are then it is
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: an accusation, by the way, because they're sex workers. Some
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: women will tell you that they do that job because
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: they like the attention and they're exhibitionists, and they make
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: money at it, and then they consider it a win win,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: and that's their business. It doesn't matter whether other people
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: approve of it or not. It's a transaction between them
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: and the people who buy their services or products or whatever.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: And that's that goes across porn, that goes across actual
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: intimacy that everything. I've run into that with escorts that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: I've talked to, I've run into that with women who
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: are porn stars. I've run into that with women who
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: think of their commitments as more artistic. And it's not
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: it's not a matter, you know, in regard to what
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: she's talking about. It matters, not right. What matters is
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: she's defining their experience for them based on her sensibilities. Oh,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: these poor women that are stuck doing this, and so
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: she's not making them, she's not making them relatable, she's relating,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: she's refusing to relate to them and relating instead to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: what she's comfortable relating to and then bending her perception
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: of them around it. And it'd be similar to you know,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: how communists treat retail workers, And when I've had conversations
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: with communists about my time in retail, because I have
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: about twenty five years in retail before I went back
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: into healthcare, and it was a lot of it was
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: unpleasant and a lot of it was pleasant. But I've
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: had people try to convince me that that whole time
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: I was getting paid to do a job that I
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: went and applied for so that I could work in
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: that environment and make that money, that I was enslaved.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: You know, Nobody chained me to the cash register or
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: the turbo chef oven, you know, and the various other
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: things that nobody chained me to that Nobody came to
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: my house, dragged me out of my bed, said get
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: over to this gas station and wait on these people. Right.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: I went in and did that by choice, and then
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: get called a slave. That's very demeaning. And I would
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: never do that to people who are in sex work either.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: If they want out and they don't like it, there
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: are lots of organizations out there to help. And if
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: they remain in and they like the job and they
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: want to do it, it would be it would be
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: really arrogant to turn around and say, well, these people
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: are victims, you know, and they just don't realize it.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: They're enslaved, they're making choices, you know, stop belittling them
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: like that. And that's this woman is belittling other women
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: for not womaning right and she doesn't even realize it.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: While that maybe not or maybe she does. Maybe this
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: is like fifth five D manifestel Chess.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think she's stupid. I think she knows she's lying.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get the sense that she's stupid either.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: But it's just really, if you don't want to be
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a sex worker, if you don't want to extort stuff
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: from men, just deal with them honestly. And I guarantee
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: not only The thing is that what's keeping them in
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the shit pile is their own choice. And if they
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: ever chose to say, hey, you know what, I stink
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: as shit, maybe I'll get out and wash myself off
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: and just deal fairly with men.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: We'll just split it down the middle. If we jibe, then.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I'll we'll try to start a life, you know, make
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: it easy. And they would probably have, they would probably
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: be They would probably get them in much quicker than
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: basting in a pile of pig shit. We'll get them
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: a man, no offense, ladies, just have you considered not
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: doing that? And so I can't see how men are
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: applying the pig shit pressure for women. I just I
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: just don't see it. But anyway, is there another good
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: time code.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: In this one?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: Well, let me see so three, I mean she goes
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: to the history of sex work. I don't think it
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: really matters much. Let's go to the intersectionality. That's like
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: they let's get into the real comy gobbledgook eleven forty
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: maybe right about here.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: And broader reach.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: And so this history section gets us into the debate
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: of whether S work is empowering or exploitative.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: And honestly, it's complicated.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: People who arguing it's a false economy. Actually, something doesn't
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: have to be empowering because it's not exploitative. It could
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: be just neither.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: It's like asking if well, working as a sewer maintenance
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: worker is empowering or exploitative. It's a job.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's let's keep going.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: To these reasons. Number one is autonomy and agency. So
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: people who say that S work can be a form
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: of personal empowerment, they believe that S work allows individuals
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: to exercise agency over their own bodies and how they
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: choose to earn a living. And I want to emphasize
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: the word.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: Every job does that this being a freaking home.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: How is it that being a homemaker is exploitation but sex?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: Again feminist logic. Okay, according to feminist logic, sex work
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: you get paid for it. House work you don't get
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: paid for it, even though you're getting a home and
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: a family. And yeah, but yeah, but again that let's
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: let's not explain the thing that they're lying about, as
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: though they're gonna say, oh shit, I never considered that.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: No ob, they know they're lying. But the claim is,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: or it's built on this false idea that a woman
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: who is married to a man is being exploited by
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: her man, if if she's even engaging in like, you know,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: wifely duties, which is not really a thing that we
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: see most of the time. People just share in the
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: you know, the chores, and if you lived alone as
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: a woman, you'd have to do those chores anyways, so
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: it's not like a man magically creates work for you
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: to do. But that's not the point. A point is
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: that she's lying. So we have to accept that this
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: is a lie, and I'm gonna say that instead of
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: calling her stupid, because I think calling her stupid is
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: number one, it gives her an out, and number two,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: it's it's a bit insulting when you call her a liar.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: I think you're being more precise. So I'm just gonna
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: go with lie. And that's bab yes, obviously. And she's
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: also sort of like she is technically describing what pro
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: sex feminists say, but she's not really disagreeing with them,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: so she's presenting it like, well, this isn't my opinion,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: but I don't have a problem with it, right, So
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: it's it's like giving her a bit of plausible deniability
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: as well, because she does acknowledge it.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Again, what she's doing right there, it is kind of it.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: She's implying that you're only making a decision about what
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: to do with your own body if the decision is
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: in regard to sexual behavior. So when I choose to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: take a job, and one of the tasks in that job,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: let's go back to toilet scrubbing, right involves taking cleaner
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: and towels and paper towels and a scrub brush and
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: going to town on a toilet that's that's me choosing
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: what to do with my own body. Right, I'm exposing
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: myself to germs, I'm exposing myself to smells and grossness,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: and I'm doing manual labor. That's a choice. That's all choices.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: I don't have to take that job. I have done
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of different jobs. I've worked in a bakery.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: I've worked in other retail areas. I've worked in other
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: healthcare areas. You know right now, I'm a direct support
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: professional for intellectually disabled adults, so I do housekeeping as
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: part of my job, right, But I've done healthcare where
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: you don't do housekeeping, and all of that. You can
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: choose from an unending supply of jobs. You can create
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: your own job. I used to crochet jewelry and sell
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: it to other women, stuff that I wouldn't wear because
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: it was too frivolous that other women would pay eighty
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: bucks for and wear. And you know, you just you
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: do what you do and you make those choices. Every
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: single one of those things is a choice what to
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: do with your own body. But if feminists only talk
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: about it that way when they're talking about sex, so
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: they're elevating sex and separating sex outs as a thing
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: that when women make those choices there's somehow much more
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: agency or empowerment or whatever they want to call it,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: you know, or exploitation at the other end of it,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: that it's not a choice when they do that. Right,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: If I choose to do a job where I'm scrubbing
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: toilets as opposed to a job where I was giving blowjobs,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: that's a choice, but the other one isn't right, And
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: it's just compartmentalism for the sake of justifying attitudes and
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: behaviors that are maybe not otherwise justifiable.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I think that they understand their value proposition. They understand
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: that their sexuality is their value proposition, and they're just
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: going to lean into it as much as possible. And
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I think they're also cumbrained. Let's be honest. Yeah, this
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: is a lot of cumbrain bullshit. That the thing is
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: that women's coombrain doesn't look like men's coom brain. Women's
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: coombrain is true crime, women's coumbrain is grape. You know,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: it's it's this obsession with their sexuality.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: Rape romance novels.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so this is this is a combination of
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: these women do not conceive and this is fatherlessness behavior.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: They don't conceive of having a value outside of their sexuality.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: I mean that really, let's get it down to it.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: A father is a man who models you developing a
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: value outside of your sex because he doesn't value you
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: for that for obvious reasons, and he helps you to
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: learn how your actions relate to your value. Okay, that's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: that's literally what fathers do. So this is fatherless behavior.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Is this reducing everything back to sex, reducing everything back
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: to your sexual value or your loss of sexual value.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Fatherlessness behavior, your inability to recognize your value in terms
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: of your actions. Fatherlessness behavior. So like, that's why I
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to start with the home deepot dad uh a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: theory that he that the home Deepot her perfect dad
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: validates everything about her and cleans up all of her messes,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: but does not teach her to value herself.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: Through her actions.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Because if if she had that conception, or if she
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't lying about the existence of that conception, she wouldn't
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: be reducing everything down to sex work, and feminists wouldn't
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: be reducing everything down to sex work, everything down to
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: women's sexual value, which you know, half of a woman's life,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: she has none she can do then all right, Like
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: it's just like does your life just ceased to think
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: that's it menopause, you're over. I mean, i'd I'd rather
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: listen to like the old rural women and how they
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: managed to age into that situation and what they did
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: with themselves instead of manifestel because like, half your life
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: is going to be people not valuing you for sex, ladies,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: what happens?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: Then?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: With this video.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, like that'll come up later.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: The second reason is being able to challenge social norms
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: as a form of empowerment.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Like Okay, I'm sorry, I'm gonna make your stuff there
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: just for a minute, all right, So challenging social norms.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: They talk about challenging social norms all the time. Feminists,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Oh we get a challenge social Why a social norms
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: because they make peopeople's lives better, Like, it's a social norm.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: It's not a lot, it's not a rule, but it's
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: a social norm that in countries where when you drive
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: your car you drive on the right side of the road,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: if you go into a grocery store, you'll see most
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: people have their shopping carts on the right side of
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: the aisle, and if you walk up and down the street,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: you'll see that. When people are going both directions on
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: a sidewalk, the social norm is you move to the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: right in the direction that you're going. And a lot
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: of times that's just so that you're not running over
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: each other, being rude to each other, getting into conflicts
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: with each other over this is my space, this is
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: your space, and so on. And it's a social norm
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: that exists to facilitate peaceful relationships between strangers. You have
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: a relationship in that moment, we're going to share this
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: space for a minute. I want to get the beans.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: I'm going to wait till you go by, and then
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: I'll cross the aisle and grab them. And it's politeness
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: is a social norm, right. A lot of social norms
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: exist because they are good. They exist because they help
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: people being be able to live among each other. Sometimes
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: there are social norms that need to be challenged, right,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: guynes Centrism is a social norm that needs to be challenged.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: I'll bet feminists don't want to do that.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: I would guess not challenging social norms is another way
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: of saying destroying the social trust. That's it. It's just destruction.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: And how is it necessarily even empowering.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: Because because feminists take pleasure in destroying things because they
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: can say I did that, so that's how they feel empowered.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: Empowerment is self idolatry. It is basically, I am the
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: most important thing in the room. I did that. And
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: even if that thing is destruction, they take pleasure in that.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: They call it empowering. They upset people, you know, like
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: they make they make what was that director of that
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: Star Wars thing, She was like, I like to make
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: men very uncomfortable. This has nothing to do about creating
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: anything it's about. It's just destruction. That's it. It's destruction.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: That's what it is. Let's just call it what it is.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: They just want to destroy. It's social challenging social norms
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: another way of saying, destroying the social trust and that
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: and they have done that. By the way, we live
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: in a pretty low trust society compared to what it
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: once was thanks to feminist destruction of social norms. Oh,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Challenging social norms.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I challenge a social norm, the social norm of
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: not giving a crap about men.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like social norms. So you do it, and
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: it's not just for the sake of challenging social norms.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: It's because that one is dysfunctional.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair enough, but you're right, it's not it's
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: not a The thing is that challenging social norms is
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: not a good in and of itself. I think that's
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: what Brian is getting.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: At, right, Well, it's what I was getting at. It's
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: it's morally neutral, and there's a lot of times where
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: it's the opposite. It's actually something bad m especially if
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: you're doing it just for its own sake and not
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: to accomplish something to benefit other people.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's finish this timecode, because we have.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: This is this long.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: Stream against the moral policing of women's bodies. And the
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: third reason is economic opportunity. So for individuals with limited
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: economic options s, work can offer a viable livelihood, particularly
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: in context where other employment opportunities are scarce or inaccessible.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Or they could be homemakerforms like.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: No, but that's work and and and that's labor and
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: they don't get paid, and that's oppress.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: And I feel like this is this might be a
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: this might be some gay ops going on. With this woman.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: Absolute that I've been saying this for years. Manifestel is
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: obviously she is. She is an op. This is.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at so well. She doesn't go ten words
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: without saying something that is absolute bullshit, like the idea
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: she talks about women's bodies being policed like men's bodies
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: are not policed. So I can't I don't remember her name,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: but the chick that is currently with Kanye West just
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: went to some award show. And I don't pay attention
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: to the award shows or anything, but that picture was
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: like everywhere and you couldn't avoid it if you wanted to.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: It was all over x Facebook Yah, like all the
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: things completely. Her outfit revealed everything right, And there's this
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: big discussion over whether it's policing women's bodies to object
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: to that and blah blah blah. If a man did that,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: the discussion would be how many people did he victimized
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: with that sexual assault? It would not be this woman
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: has a right to behave this way. This woman is
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: victimizing herself. This woman is. What she did was in
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: a front. It's not Kim Kardashian that demon or the
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: demon Foxy I that was an old relationship. This is
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: the person who replaced her the new model. But in
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: any case, the whole relation, yeah, the whole reaction would
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: have been different. It was a dude, right. And it's
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: not just because you know, women have everything up inside
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: and underneath and men have it all hanging out. It's because,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: in comparison to women, men's bodies are highly policed. If
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: you really want to complain, you know, whether it's good
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: or bad for people's bodies to be policed. Women do
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: not suffer from that anyway near on the level that
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: men do. A man can be treated as a lifelong
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: criminal because he had to go to the bathroom and
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: was nowhere near one, and you know, took a leak
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: in an alley behind a bar, and somebody came around
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: and saw him and called the cops.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: This woman went to a highly publicized event where pictures
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: of her were going to be plastered all over the internet,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: where she was going to be on media everywhere where.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: The people there there were people who were there to work,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: it was their job to be there. They could not
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: avoid her and plastered her nudity in front of everybody
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: all over the place. Right, That isn't a sexual assault,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: but happening to be in a back alley urinating on
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: the wall when somebody comes around the corner. Is you know,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: tell me that women are more police than men. Try.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: I beg you to try, because I'm calling bullshit every
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: second of that. And yet that's something that she spouted
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: a minute ago.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, honestly, men are definitely more police when
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: it comes to their clothing.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: If they exit the.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: House in without wearing one of like what six approved
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: uniforms based on the activity that they're engaging with, they
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: will be harassed. And and of course feminists will call
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: that misogyny. I know, you know, it's it's it is
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: what it is. I'm not going to say that men
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: should go out looking like Elton John, although that would
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: be amusing.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: You just imagine, Actually, life would be a lot more
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: fun if half the men in the world dressed like
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: Elton John and Liberaci. Yeah, it would make their lives
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: difficult because there's a lot of things men do that
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: they just can't subject those kind of outfits to that
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: and then still maintaining.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Exactly because the idea behind the outfit is that you
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: are focusing on your physical appearance, your performance, your the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: attraction of people's attention as opposed to what you do
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: with your actions. And our society is really really hyper
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: focused on making men conformed to that pure sense of action.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you go back a century and men's
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: and men's outfits were more interesting, go back to centuries,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: you start to get more and more like they're they're
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: more like, more creative, more about drawing attention, more about
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: showing yourself as and then and there was even a
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: component of that kind of flamboyantness was associated with a
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: warrior class. And if you even look like the Comanche
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: and what they went to war and was all this pageantry,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: and all that's gone. Now men are about utility and
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: men can't have any pageantry because it's all about action
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: and that's it it and you know, that's that's that's policing.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: That's a change in how men present themselves.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: And it relates also.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: To how men are policed in terms of their uh,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: you know, their their physical presentation with others.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: They're not supposed to take up space.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: They're not supposed to be loud, they're not supposed to
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: draw the eye. They're supposed to be quiet and inobtrusive
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: like rumba in the corner, you know what I mean,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: And they and they do their thing, and then they
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: just go and just be as quiet and inobtrusive like
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: a butler. Just you don't you don't want to see
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: the butler. You don't even want to know that he exists.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: You don't want him to breathe in your in your world.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: He should just look like he's part of the furniture.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: That's the that's the aim that men are. It's all policing.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: It's all women saying to men. We don't want to
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: you don't want you.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: To be flamboyant. We're gonna be a faggot. Oops. Ship,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: I just we might just lose.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: Earch times, so don't worry.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we don't want that. We want you to
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: be in a true so we just want you to
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: be an objective service. That's all policing, right, So don't
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: give me this crap that men's bodies are policed. And
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: then also speaking of objects of service.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: They're forced into conscription. That's policing.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: If a man is raped, legal precedent is that he
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: is one obligated to responsibilities to result in child that's policing.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Karen. Karen, You're absolutely right.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: Other Karen were interchangeable. The two of us, we're both
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: were both, we're both lad mouths.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: We both know.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: No, she does not have better manners than you. It's
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: always nice bringing you on because I get a break
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: from being insulted. But the the whole uh Like, you're
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: absolutely right. There's all kinds of constant policing, yeah, involved
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: in this, and it's so much policing that it's become
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: invisible and comp invisible to women. They don't know how,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: They don't even notice how much pressure is put on
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: men to solely exist as an objective service while drawing
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: absolutely no attention to oneself.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: They don't.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: She doesn't even she can't, she can't even comprehend it
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: because she doesn't even know it exists. And she is
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: in fact part of that pressure because what does she do?
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: What is her demands? Men be an object of service
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: to me and impact to me as little as possible.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: She would be the person who, in my workplace, you know,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: would have to tell everybody every day, don't mess up
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: that toilet. I just cleaned it, right. They don't, you
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: know my goal is you don't have to think about
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: the toilet. Her goal would be that's my toilet. Everybody
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: needs to pay attention to me because I did a
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: good job. And that's that's, you know, an issue that
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: makes you miserable when you're in that situation. If I
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: don't hear about my tasks, if somebody doesn't come to
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: me and say there's a problem, I'm happy. I don't
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: have to hear you did a great job. In fact,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: if somebody comes to me and was like, wow, the
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: bathroom was fabulous, you did a great job. Okay, thinks
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: you know. I know. I don't want to I don't
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: want to talk about it. I just want to get
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: it done. And yeah, Unfortunately, when you're in that situation
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: where everything you think about is like the women's bodies
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: being policed, comment is a meme, my my, I I
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: attitude right, it's it's not women are held to a
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: degree of the account that men are held to, and
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: in terms of the impact of their visibility on the public,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: it's how dare you make me feel bad about anything?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: And and you can decide how I feel. And because
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about what you think of me, and
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about the response I'm getting from you.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: I'm never thinking about the impact I have on you.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: And that's basically what she's done this whole conversation, and
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: the second half of that, you know, her not going
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: ten words without pissing me off. Is this economic thing,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: all right? It's not that there's a shortage of jobs.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: That's not why sex work exists. Right, there's a shortage
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: of jobs that are as easy and fun as sex
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: work can be when you have the ideal sex work
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: situation versus jobs that involve things like scrubbing a toilet. Right,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: And when we talk about sex work, including things like creating,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: creating still image porn and creating porn where you work
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: with a partner that you would be having sex with anyway.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of husband and wife teams. Right,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: that's a lot more fun job for some people than
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: Like I told you, I was gonna be late because
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: my workplace was impacted with a couple of illnesses and
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: one of them was gatstrahinteritis. I spent the last couple
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: of weeks cleaning up puke on a regular basis, a
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: lot of it, and then worked extra hours because it
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: went through all of US. I had my two days
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: off and that's when I got sick, so I didn't
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: miss any shifts, but all of my coworkers got sick
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: when they were scheduled to work. So, you know, these
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: are things that you do because you have a dedication
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: to your job. It's not fun to clean up puke, right,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: but you care about the person that you're there to
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: take care of in the environment that you're there to create,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: so you do it. And then you're satisfied that you
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: did what needed to be done for that job, and
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: you've taken care of the individual, and you've taken care
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: of the environment, and when you leave and the next
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: shift comes in, things are as they should be, and
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: that's highly satisfied. Even if the work includes aspects that
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: really suck, you know that they're not fun. Women don't
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: go into sex work because they can't find another job.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: They go into a sex work because it pays more
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: than another job, or because they don't want to clean
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: up shit and puke, or sell people things, or be
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: someone's secretary and take dictation, or get an education and
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: work in a lab, you know, become a doctor, lawyer
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: or whatever, or because they're addicted to drugs and they
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: don't take care of themselves. You know, some sex workers
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: they're not necessarily victims, but they're in a bad situation
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: and they're continuing to make bad choices because of it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: All right, But that's this idea that women go into
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: sex work because they can't get other jobs is bullshit.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: Sy I just her she doesn't understand the agency again,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: the agency involved in this.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: Uh, I'm just gonna say she's lying again. Y's she lies.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: That's it. She's a liar, and women buy it because
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: they want to. They really want to believe it, so
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: they believe it. It's so easy, it's so easy, you can
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: make like so much money if you just like played
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: into the victimhood narrative. Not that I suggest it, because
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: it's lying and I think that's immoral, but that is
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: what she's doing. All right. So we've been going for
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: like almost two hours now, So should I move on
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: to the next thing? Yes, all right? Which one you
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: want to do? I married a monster? Or the village disappeared?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: The village disappeared.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe the village disappeared because women are no longer held
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: to any standard, Like why should women?
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe they just didn't want to be around her because
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: she was amit.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: Do you know what is meant by the village in
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: this context? Do you know what they're what the context
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: of the village disappeared? Do you know what the village is?
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, tell me, Well, let's.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: Let's jump to the time cup. We'll let her tell you. So, uh,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: this is the tricky one in a way, So we're
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: gonna go. Let me see the beginning.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 5: I guess like a forgotten species in our modern day society.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: The job of being a mother it feels a lot
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: for one person because it was never meant to be
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: for one person. It was meant for Oh god, it's
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: the it takes a village narrative.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's the it takes a village narrative, which is literally,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: calmy shit, by the way, the village is. Well, let's
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: let me, let's finish the sound bite.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: Here, hold lot, it's nobody helping co raise my kids
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: with me, like we.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: Used to say, bestie, Oh my god, what is she wearing?
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: All right? So the village this is, this is important
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: for you guys to pay attention to. And this is
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: like across most of this kind of content. What the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: left does is they marry a a kernel of truth
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: to a much larger lie so that it's harder for
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: you to debunk it. Okay, So the village is this idea,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: and I know that Natty has actually co signed on this,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: and that's how I know she's been hoodwinked by this
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: COMMI gobbly gook nonsense. The idea is that Hillary Clinton,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: like you said, she used to say it takes a
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 4: village to raise a child. And that sounds right, okay,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: it feels like, oh, okay, I get it. Like if
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: you have a community and everyone is looking out for
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: each other and they're all like, you know, involved with
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: each other's families and you so you know the neighbor's
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: kids and they know your kids, and like we can
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: all help out that that's what it sounds like. Sounds
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: really good, okay, But that's not what they really mean.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: And I'll give you another example of a group that
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: brings up the village as well, and that is Black
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 4: Lives Matter, the group the organization on their website, which
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: they've since taken it down or changed, but it remains,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: you know, the internet's forever. You can probably still find it.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: They said that they disrupt the traditional nuclear family by
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: you know, basically, disrupting is sort of like challenging norms
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: like the family, which means destroying it ultimately and replacing
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: like the family as it exists with. I believe they
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: actually use every word except father, like mothers, aunts, grandmothers,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: and parents, which is just like whatever the hell that means.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: And BLM was run by some you know, a couple
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: of black, fat, black lesbians, so they were literally about
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 4: destroying the family. And when people agree, when they talk
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: about their that they agree with the you know, this
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: concept of the village, or they don't like the term
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: nuclear family because it implies that it's only mom, dad
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: and the kids. That's a lie as well. The nuclear
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: means the nucleus of a much broader network which includes
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: your community but also your extended family. That's not communist.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: But this idea of the village is because ultimately it's
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: about removing the father and creating a system where there
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: is there will There will at first have to be
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: a state that essentially like you know, runs the family,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of like our welfare state does. And
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: then the once the the people have gotten accustomed to
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: a situation where they're they're communes are run by the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: women and the the well basically the women, because the
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: men aren't allowed to have any authority.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: Then they will finally find like they've made the perfect
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: social man or the socialist man, and then they can,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: like supposedly, the state will just melt away because everyone
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: will be on the same page, and then we'll have
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: your utopia. This all lies, But I'm just pointing out
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: when she says the village disappeared, she is not. She
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: is not advocating for a family with a father present.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: She is not advocating for that. She is not even
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: advocating for like an organically formed community, because if you
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: lived like I live in a town, and there are
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: lots of people here that have kids, and they're married
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: and they've been together a long time, and there is
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: not really gonna be an issue of divorce, is not
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: really a problem around here, and the people do know
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: each other and they have parties when somebody has a birthday.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: Everyone attends that that thing that she's saying is disappearing.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: It's not. It's just that where you know where she's
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: getting her info is social media. So there are women
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: on social media who probably are not doing their due diligence,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: and they're lazy, and they don't want people participating in
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: you know, like they don't want to be a part
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: of like raising children. They just want other people to
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 4: do it for them. And so they complain that there's
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: no village action happening, but that's just not true. So
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: that I wanted to make sure that you guys have
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: to understand that when these people, when communists start using
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: language like social and village, they are lying. They're trying
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: to get you to believe something that's not real. They're
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: trying to like they're using words in a very very
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: dishonest way. People already can form communities, which start from
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: families and often are based in some kind of faith
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: that keeps people together. But of course Manifesto, who claims
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: to be a Catholic, which is clearly another lie, she
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: doesn't believe in that, and and her concept of the
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 4: village is basically like, you know, if men are present,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: they're just keeping their heads down and doing the work
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: that women don't want to do. But they don't like mormony.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: Like the Church of or the one the Seven Day
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: adventis the one that's like the the crazy Mormons that
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: all the other Mormons are like, We're not like that
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: that that sounds like that community. Yeah, the sister wives,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: it sounds like that community. The men are forced into,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: like they have to conform to the most strict moral standards,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: they're told who their wives are, you know, and the
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: wives themselves construct these communities. And then the other thing
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: is that what they're finding is difficult getting rid of
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: these Mormon, like specifically the Mormon polygamous communities, is that
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: they'll get rid of the guy, the supposed headman, and
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: then suddenly another one pops up, because the women are
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: the ones driving these communities. It's what they find with
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: the terrorist communities.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: It's there keeping the.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: Continuity of these communities, and they get rid of the men,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: and the women will just swoop together and then birth
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: more men to lead the community and go out and
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: be violent. And they have and the the authorities actually
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: recognize this, and they recognize that it's almost impossible to
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: get rid of these kind of culty communities.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: Like there was this one community.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Like Christian, was not really Christian, but it was like
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: almost this very strange, sexually abusive cult, and the head
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: guy disappeared and now one of his wives controls it.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: It's like you, you can't get rid of these communities
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: until you recognize the power that these women have to
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: continue them by instilling the values of these communities into
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: their children.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: The men are.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: Literally architects of the thing they are claiming is their
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: own undoing right. They are the architects. And there's a
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: couple of ways in which they are the architects. Like,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: first of all, like Brian said, the actual community around
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: child rearing, within families and neighborhoods and towns and cities
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: and stuff that's not disappearing. That's that's alive and well
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: and thriving in households and neighborhoods, in large communities, in
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: small communities, in schools, in churches, it's everywhere. Right, What
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: she's wanting is for it to be controlled by women
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: and run by women. And when that happens, women don't
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: get along. They alienate the hell out of each other.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: They can't agree on what the standards are, and they
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 3: don't show any accountability in regard to doing this task.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: So when you cut out all the men, you cut
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: the backbone out of the body that is the village.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: And now all you have is people who are doing
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: it for their own image, people who are looking to
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: get something out of it but not necessarily give anything
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: into it, people who are not trying to be role
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: models for the children, people who are not invested in
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: the welfare of the children, that are invested in their
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: own welfare. Or empowerment, which, in my professional experience, the
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: term empowerment means something entirely different than the way feminists
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: use it. Right, Empowerment is if you have somebody that
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: on their own they can't maybe walk very well, but
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: you give them a mobility device, and now they don't
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: need somebody else's permission to get up and go to
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: the bathroom. That's empowerment, right. Feminists don't do that. For feminists,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: it's more you're able to put your debauchery on display
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: and people aren't allowed to criticize you for it. That's
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: their idea of empowerment. So when you take this notion
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: of the village and you put other feminist values in
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: around it and everything, what you're basically creating is a zoo,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: a circus, not a village. These women are not having
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 3: difficulty finding what they're looking for. They're looking for something
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 3: that was never the way children were raised, because if
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: humanity tried to do it that way, we would have
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: died out as a species.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 4: Eon to go, yeah, well, yeah, I think that. Uh,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 4: it's just important that we like, we understand what's going
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 4: on here with this language and they are It's funny
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: because manifestel will make references to other feminist work to
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 4: justify her claims, which is like basically the snake eating
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 4: its own tail, like it's they they they reference each
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: other and they call it the truth, but there's no
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 4: root from which it spawns that actually proves anything. So
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 4: it's all like self referential, you know, like AI art.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: But anyway, let's let's listen to another clip because I'm
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 4: you know, we've been going for a long time here.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: So it is of the significance of children being raised
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 5: by a village. Why did society dynamics shift, like why
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 5: did the village disappear? Okay, And to answer this question
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 5: we need to look at it few distinct shifts in society.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: And as we mentioned earlier, pre industrialization, villages were self
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: sufficient economic units with families collectively getting their back Okay,
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: they're getting their back together. It's always like a family
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 5: business of some sort, craft making tasks, agricultural work. But
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: when industrialization came, it brought about an economic shift where
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 5: it dissolved these structures where people were collectively getting their bag,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 5: and instead everyone was individually getting their bag. They had
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 5: to get a job individually, like factories are not hiring families,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 5: they're hiring one person.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, so there's not that wrong. Actually, that's not how
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: that happened. In fact, whole families went to work for
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: the same factory, including the children. Whole families went to
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: work in the coal mines, including the women and children,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: until rich women decided that women didn't belong in the
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 3: coal mines didn't object to the children being there though,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 3: Like whole families worked for a wealthy family, where the
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: wife might work in a kitchen as a cook, or
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: she might be a maid. The husband might be security,
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: he might be something along the lines of a butler,
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: he might be have janitorial duties and things like that,
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: and the children did work for many many years, many
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: many decades and a few centuries. In fact, during the
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: industrial aids age, as people became less likely to do
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: crafting type work or do any other type work that's
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: replaced by the industrial complex. Whole families did go to
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 3: work for the same entity. It was not unusual at all.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, she's basically saying that industrialization led to individualism.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: Let's play some more.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 5: And it led to a shift from rural and urban living,
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 5: and it just completely changed family structures. And here we
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: see nuclear families replacing the extended family as the primary
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 5: social unit because of you know, industrialization. So one of
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 5: the changes is that.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want to play too much because this
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 4: has gone really long.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: But what she didn't cause that medicine caused that?
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: Just just well but but what is that that was caused? Like, like,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 4: were people just not able to like live within extended
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 4: families because there was a factory somewhere. Like this is
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 4: like complaining about the sun coming up, Like we live
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 4: in an industrial society. It was inevitable. So what now,
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: what what are you gonna do about it? Like change
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 4: your lifestyle you don't like it, go move in with
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 4: your mom, like women.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: Can do that.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: What are we gonna do about it?
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 4: We should just destroy the family because I don't like that.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 4: But I'm also not liking that. While I'm sitting on
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 4: the internet, talking into a fucking microphone at the world,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 4: which was a product of industrialization. So like you're you're
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 4: you're you're basically attacking the thing that you're using to
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 4: attack it, and you're not offering anything as a as
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 4: an actual solution. Like if you want to live within
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 4: an extended family, then live within an extended family. Make
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 4: it a priority. The Mormons do it, the homage to it.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: The Mormons still take advantage of technology. They're not like,
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I have to choose between transhumanism and
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: the Handmaid's Tale. No, they just live in a society
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 4: with each other. They do it well, it's not an
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 4: inevitable thing that you're just you're just complaining that the
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 4: sun rises.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: At this point, complaining about she's not she sees a
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: benefit and she's not getting it. She doesn't see how
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: the women involved in these communities are actually constructing the
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: benefit for themselves. This is what's dangerous about women like
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: this towards other women.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 3: People have choices. She can't see how not getting a
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: benefit she sees, she's complaining becase because other people have choices.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 3: People don't fail to live in an extended family because
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 3: you go to work in different places. People don't live
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: in an extended family because their parents move into a
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 3: nursing home or kids are putting their parents into a
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: nursing home. Right, people don't live in an extended family
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 3: because people choose to live apart. She's complaining about other
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: people having choices.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, but also those choices can be considered a benefit
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: that she doesn't have.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: But she doesn't.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: But the danger is that she doesn't recognize that the
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: women in those communities, the actions of the women in
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: those communities, are in part what creates those women's choices
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: and benefits. So what I'm getting at is women like
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: this will look at something that you have built for yourself,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: or you have built for yourself in community with other women,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: and say it's unfair because they can't recognize that your
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: actions constructed that thing, that you have an unfair resource.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: Destroy it.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: They'll attempt to destroy it because they think that you
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: got it unfairly, even though you got it by virtue
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: of your choices and actions.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: Right, And that's the thing. She she has the same
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: choices as those other women. Yes, it's just that she's
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 3: alienated the people around her to the degree that they
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 3: don't want to live with her.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: Or you know.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of fragmentation going. But she's
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: definitely not She's not talking about the values that would
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: lead to a woman having a community like she's. The
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: thing is, she talks about adamization, but everything about out
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: of her mouth is envy and competition and get your
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: bag and secure, secure your bag while getting his bag.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: It's like that these are not the choices or the
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: the these are not the things that you aim for
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: if you want to be part of a community of
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: like minded people helping you.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: It's what I'm getting at.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: So so she is, it's like the whole sitting in
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: a pile of shit thing. She's choosing to sit in
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: a pile of shit, and she's not recognizing that her
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: choices are putting her there. I know somebody in the
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: chat said that she thinks that women should be public
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: property instead of private property. How about not being property?
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: Get out of the pile of shit. And the way
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: that you do that is stop being addicted to have
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: being value for nothing, Like the only things that have
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: value for nothing are objects. People should have value for
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: what they do and they're their wisdom, you know, what
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: they've build for themselves, right, And this is like, this
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: is the thing, This is the thing that women have
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: to navigate, is that for a brief time in their life,
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: less than possibly even less than half their life, they
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: get a lot of value for virtue just existing, a
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: lot of sexual value. But then for the rest of
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: their life they don't. Right, it's gone goodbye. What do
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: you do then? And and like I said, if they
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to be sex objects, if they don't want
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: to sit in the pile of shit, get out of it.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: You have to choose to get out of the pile
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: of shit. Stop complaining about the pile of shit when
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: you're choosing to sit in it.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of it, all right.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 3: All right, she's saying really quick, because I think she's
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: about to reverse cause and effect here.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 5: Let's see, urban homes they can no longer accommodate extended families.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 3: And yeah, see, okay, growth of the factory. So she's
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: she says, one of the reasons that that people don't
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: live in extended families is that urban homes don't accommodate
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: extended families. Right, that's back bass ackwards. One of the
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 3: reasons that urban homes don't accommodate extended families is because
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: of how long it has been common for people to
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 3: choose to not live in extended families. If you don't
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 3: have to have room for your parents to live with you,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: because they're going to go into nursing care in a
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: building full of people their age that are in nursing care,
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: you don't need a home that is designed to accommodate
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 3: an extended family. Like That's just the way that it is.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: And so the market follows the needs of the consumer.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: The market follows what people will pay for. And if
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: people aren't buying extended family homes because parents are going
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 3: to live in nursing homes, siblings are making their own homes.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: People are moving hundreds of miles apart from each other.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 3: I live a thousand miles away from my brother and
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: his family, for instance. They move to Florida, you know,
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: for their health, actually, because Ohio is not a very
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 3: healthy place to live. Like, we're actually the reason the
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 3: EPA exists. But I'm not kidding. I actually looked it up.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 3: There's quite a bit of truth to that. But in
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 3: any case, yeah, this thing of oh people can't have
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 3: extended families because apartments exist bullshit. If you want to
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 3: have an extended family you don't go live in an
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 3: urban area. You know, if you want to live in
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: an extended family home, you move to the country. You
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: pull your resources, you buy a farmhouse. You have plenty
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 3: of room for an extended family home. You go to
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: a small community, you go to a suburb, you go
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 3: to a rural town instead of an urban community. You
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 3: do what it takes to find the space that you need.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: But most people aren't. It's not their goal to do that,
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't have to be. And so, yeah, she
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: really did reverse cause and effect there, and I'm sure
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: she's doing that with quite a number of other things
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 3: because she's female and women do not. I'm sorry, but
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be sexist about this, all right. Women
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: do not identify cause and effect very well in circumstances
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 3: like this. They don't think of it as problem evaluation,
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: identification of solution, and then effort towards solution. It's problem. Okay,
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: Who do I blame for this?
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: And that is it's not a masculine behavior, it's feminine behavior.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 3: And she's doing it.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's like they look at something and
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: they can't see their own actions. It's like this gigantic
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: blind spot in their thinking. And it's really interesting because again,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: you're going to spend half of your life in that
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: blind spot. Ladies, you might as well figure out what's
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: You end your whole life looking at the world around
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 3: you and you never consider, all right, how does this work?
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 3: Why is it like that? And instead all you're considering is,
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: you know, how does this affect me? And whose fault
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 3: is it? Then you reverse cause and effect like that
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: all the time, and I will it's because she's female.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 3: She never has to really live like that. She never
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: really has to make it a focus of her life
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 3: to understand, you know, how does this work and why
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: is it that way? In order to determine what she's
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: going to do, she only has to determine who to
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 3: call for help.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, you go, okay, all right? So I think we've
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: have we exhausted this or was there any other point
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: in this one that was Salient's exhausting? She is exhausting,
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: all right, Let's let's go to the last one.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: This is the one that literally made me rage.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 4: I So it's called I married a monster, and it's
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 4: basically about domestic violence, and of course it's always it's
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 4: just men. We're just talk about men, guys.
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 3: So the thirteen percent of domestic violence, that that sort
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 3: of looks like the way feminist portray it.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: Thirteen percent, guys, the vast minority of domestic violence. That's
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: where we're gonna look at because that's the that's the part,
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: that's the part that makes money.
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're eighty seven percent, that's not like that.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And we're just going to focus on the thirteen percent.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: And when we do that, we're of course going to
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: end up with a solution to this social problem. No,
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: why would actually know what why would we ever want.
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  Speaker 2: To solve it?
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: Because the thirteen percent gets us so much money in clout.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, all.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 4: Right, So do you have a I mean, if you
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 4: have a specific time code of mind. I jumped ahead
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: to the.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately my cat understanding.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 4: The role of socioeconomic status.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 5: Let's look at just this this Journal of Epidemiology and Community.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 4: Health epitioology, you mean apedium.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 5: Systematic review published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 5: Health found that lower childhood socio economic position is associated.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 3: With a greater risk of the study epademic experiences. What
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: they study epidemics?
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 5: In CSA, and the study emphasizes that any policy approach
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 5: ignoring the socio economic context of acees is flawed. And
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 5: this is why I don't mince words when it comes
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 5: to women getting their bags, securing their own bag, having
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 5: their own financial independence, financial knowledge, financial security, stability, because
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 5: if women had the resources to leave these situations, the
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 5: chances of these bad things happening to them creases.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: So these tho, you never have to tell men to
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 3: do that, right, You don't have to tell boys be
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: prepared to get your bag, secure your financial Nobody has
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: to tell guys to do that because they grow up
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: knowing that that's going to be expected them. They don't
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: have an option to not do that and let somebody
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: else pay their way through life.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 4: I'm also gonna I want to point out where she says, uh,
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 4: this this right here, so lower childhood SBC. Okay, So
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 4: she says, any policy this is according to a paper
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 4: which is feminist. Let's just let's just understand that. Like
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 4: when you talk about academic studies or papers or reports
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 4: or whatever, any data that's coming out of some official
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 4: source it is most likely a feminist thing that that
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 4: already comes with its own bias packed in it, says.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 4: Any policy approach that ignores the socioeconomic context the ACEES
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 4: is therefore law. That is them saying you can't use
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 4: data on its own without including our bias slanted input.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 4: Any policy approach that ignores the socioeconomic context i e.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 4: Communist language to ACEES is therefore flawed. I'm just telling
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 4: you that's the there, right there, that's the trap because
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 4: from now on, if you if you accept this, if
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 4: you accept this, then you have to accept whatever bullshit
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 4: comes with it. And you can't look at anything objectively
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 4: because must socioeconomic context. And you don't know what that
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 4: is because it can't be pinned down as anything like
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 4: you know, like actually like solid or objective, because it's
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 4: all it's all context. So like if two men like
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 4: beat each other up and one of them is like,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 4: you know, killed or raped or something, socioeconomic context suggests what, well,
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 4: which one of them is white, which one of them
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 4: is black, Which one of them has more money than
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 4: the other one, Which one of them is gay, which
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 4: one of them is straight? It is nothing to do
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 4: with whatever actually fucking happened because you have to include
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 4: all this intersectional shit. So I'm just pointing out that
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 4: right there, that right there, that's the important detail that
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 4: she just glossed over, like, well, the official sources from
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 4: the from these people who are really smart, and you
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 4: just have to believe they said this, so believe it.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 4: And those people are her people. They make appeals to
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 4: their authorities and they call it fact that. It's like
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 4: lightning struck the tablets and they're come down from the
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 4: mountain and they're like, behold, I bring you the ten
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 4: Commandments of feminism. It's always men's fault. Actually it's only
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 4: one commandment, you know. So that's what this is. I
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 4: just want to point that out.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: So you guys, yeah, okay.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: Now, backing this up a bit, relationship between socio childhood,
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: socioeconomic position, and adverse childhood experiences. It's essentially just saying
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: that poor kids experience worse outcomes. Now, the policy implications,
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: which there no doubt will be, is I don't know,
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: universal basic income or something. They usually go into this
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: kind of this kind of thing. But the thing is
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: that they may have inverse causality. It may be that
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: these behaviors create poverty, rather than poverty creating these behaviors.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 4: But yeah, go ahead.
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: I'd also like to point out that looking at economic
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: factors sorta is in contradiction to let's blame men. Okay,
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: but let's keep But what I think what she's saying
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: is that in order to prevent this from happening, women
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: need to be able to pay for their own bills
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: and work and everything. But then she'll also say that
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: doing that is an unfair imposition on women. Honestly, I
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: think this might be a mouthpiece for UBI eventually that
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: she's going to be saying that women deserve to get
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: a certain amount from.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 4: The covert UBI. It is universal. It's not even that
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 4: it's women BI.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, women basic income.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 3: And I want to point out one other thing. It's
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: it's not necessarily that poverty. Either poverty causes violence or
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 3: violence causes poverty. I think the characteristics or flaws or
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 3: failures and development that lead to a tendency toward violence
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: instead of better solutions to one's problems also lead to
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 3: poverty because they lead to people not taking the steps
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 3: that they need to take in order to not be poor.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 4: That yeah, no, I mean it yes, So I'm gonna
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 4: jump to the next thing here, the role of socioeconomic status.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 5: Uh eighteen, so here the financial responsibility and the financial knowledge.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 5: You better have your own finances in order, like your
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 5: finances and your family finances. They have to be separate,
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 5: Like you can have your own and also be part
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 5: of the family finances.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: Like the only women to get this opportunity to do
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 3: that too. That's all I wanted to say about that. Yeah,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 3: for sure don't get to do that.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't deserve it. They're the reason why the
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 4: woman needs to save up in the first place.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 5: Observation in the spoilual support group, I feel like this
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 5: is a call in for us. I make money management
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 5: videos here and there, but tell me why they always bomb.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 6: They always underperformed.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: No one watches them because women are responsible.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 5: It's just not a conversation that a lot of us
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 5: are interested in. And that's because I feel like it's
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 5: a cool. Part of being a spoiled girly is spoiling
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 5: yourself with the knowledge, with the stability, with a security.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 6: Like you're a spoiled girly because you spoil yourself.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: The bomb for a younger girl.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: Because I'm let me give you an information that there
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: you're b They bomb because they require the women in
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: your audience to take responsibility for something.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 4: Lady.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: It's funny because now I wonder if she's not a
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: victim of her audience because she has to literally tell
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: her audience this constant, fatuous bullshit, and anytime she actually says, hey,
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: I have a skill that you might benefit from learning,
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: they're like, boo, bitch, shut up and test.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 2: Just blow smoke up our twatts. That's all you're here for.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that must.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: Be hell, Like, I have a skill that I've cultivated.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: Shut up, bitch, it's unfair you have that. That's just
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 1: a resource. Give us our bag? Like, god, Lord, well, I.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 4: Mean we don't, we don't. We don't really know that
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 4: most of her supposed financial advice videos are just more
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 4: creative ways for women to extract money from men. So yes,
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 4: maybe they just maybe they just didn't implement them or
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 4: they're afraid to.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: If they were, they'd probably be doing better with their audience,
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: let's be fair.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it was.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty like, if it's not doing well with their audience,
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: I would lay odds that she's actually trying to offer
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: them some way of improving their recognizing how their actions
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: affect negative consequences and inviting them to improve those actions,
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: because I'm guessing that that's what's bombing with their audience.
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 3: Draco nailed it. This is I don't know which one this,
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 3: which one is which here? But uh, it's not showing
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 3: in the restream chat, so I think it's the vertical,
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 3: he said. She is saying that a woman should always
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 3: prepare to exit a family. Mm hmmm, why the hell
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 3: that is? That is really that's what she's saying. Yeah,
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: you know, and that's why men don't get to do that,
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 3: because you can have a separate You could build a
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 3: separate financial entity for yourself if you wanted to write,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: if you had the selfishness and didn't, you know, want
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 3: to provide for your family and take care of your
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: children that women have. The thing is, even if everything
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: was in your name and not hers, and you kept
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 3: it separate and you didn't make it part of the
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: marital property, if you actually decided to exit the family,
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 3: the court would still give it to her. They would
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 3: take it from you if she knew about it. If
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 3: if In fact, if you don't tell the court about it,
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: in some places you can go to jail for that.
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah right. I think there's a bit more
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 4: of this.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 5: So sure, because you love yourself most okay, so you
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 5: love yourself, you truly want to empower yourself and other women.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 5: Please learn about money.
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 5: You don't need to be rich, but you need to
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 5: be secure. Moving on, here's a little detail that I
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 5: didn't see people talk about, and it's about how the
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 5: mother claimed that the man presented himself as a quote
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 5: unquote good Christian man. And we've done a class on
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 5: good religious men, good Christian men, good Mormon men. And
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 5: one thing about these people who use their religion or
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 5: ideological affiliation as proxy for being an actual good person.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 4: You mean like you do when you yeah, or when
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 4: you yeah, when feminist playing they care about women. I'm
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 4: sorry that that's not uh steps to protect children from harm.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 4: I think that's like the last thing I got here.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 4: So she goes on the I want to point out
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 4: that she is a fake period, just a fake. Okay.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's the mass biological daughter. The Mass does
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 5: it to his own children. You can do everything right,
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 5: and these things still happen, but the best we can
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 5: do as a community, as a society is to arm
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 5: ourselves with knowledge so that we can prevent this from happening.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 5: Speaking of arming ourselves with knowledge, Darkness to Light, the
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 5: charitable organization that we are fundraising, created the five Steps
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 5: to protecting Children, and here's a quote from their website.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 5: One in ten children in the US will be essayed
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 5: before the age of eighteen. Darkness to Light believes that
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 5: adults are responsible for the safety of children and that
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 5: adults should be taking proactive steps to protect children from essay,
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 5: it is unrealistic to.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 4: Keep mean sexual assault, but she's afraid to say it.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 5: That a child should be responsible for kinding off such
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 5: advances by an adult. And Step one is learned the facts,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 5: understand the prevalence and realities of CSA, and recognize that
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 5: it can happen in any community and that most harmers
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 5: are known to the child. Step two is minimize opportunity.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 5: Reduce situations where a child is alone with an adult
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 5: or older youth. Implement policies that promote group activities and
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 5: open environments. Step three is talk about it.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're already she's making a mistake.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 3: Most people, the vast overwhelming majority of people, as in,
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 3: you could be in a room with hundreds of people
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 3: and they're not be a single perpetrator in that room.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 3: Most people are not perpetrators, right. The people who are
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 3: perpetrators do it over and over again. They do it
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 3: to multiple people, not just one, and they do it
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 3: until they are caught and stopped so throughout their entire
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 3: lives because they have something that went wrong during their
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 3: development and never got corrected, and they do have behaviors
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 3: that can be recognized by the people around them. And
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 3: it is more likely for somebody to get sexually assaulted
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 3: as a child raped, whatever form of sexual assault takes
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 3: place by an adult that is being tolerated because people
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 3: are afraid to criticize that adult's behavior for some reason
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 3: or another. And I guess the best way to put
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 3: it is the largest group of adults for whom the
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 3: protection exists of political incorrectness involving criticizing them is women. Right.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: One of the largest groups of sexual assailants is women
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 3: within systems that children are put into because the state
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 3: says you have to. And that's not just the school system,
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 3: but that is one of them. But the other one
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: is juvenile justice system. And you look at the juvenile
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 3: justice system, the majority of victims of sexual misconduct were
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 3: victimized by staff. The majority that were victimized by staff,
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 3: despite the fact that women were less than half of
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 3: staff were victimized by women, and the majority was boys.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 3: It's because the majority of people that get put into
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 3: the juvenile justice system are boys. And it doesn't matter
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: whether it's because they actually did something they shouldn't do
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 3: and are in there as a punishment, or that it's
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 3: wrong to put them in there. The fact that the
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 3: majority that are assaulted in there sexually assaulted, are being
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 3: assaulted by a minority within a minority of the employees
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 3: women tells you something. People are always looking out. Oh
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 3: there's a man going to be alone with our children,
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 3: he must be dangerous. Watch out for both sexes, watch
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 3: out for creepy behavior, watch out for people who feel
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 3: entitled to get between you and your children, and watch
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 3: out for people who use You can't criticize me because
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 3: it's politically incorrect to suggest this, okay, and stop just
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 3: trying to blame men, all right.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: So I think what we were getting into was she
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 1: was reading off a website who deals with sexual abuse
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: of kids.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 4: Darkness light.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that I would get away from
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: that because I haven't actually looked very deeply into this.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: Let's just go with what she's asserting, because she proceeds
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: to assert a whole bunch of very destructive well, I.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 4: Want to yeah, I jumped back to earlier in the
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 4: video because interesting, Well that that's where I jumped to.
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 4: This will be the last time code. But this is
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 4: like the money This is like the money shot. This
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 4: is the delivery right here where she uses the data
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 4: from darkness to light to make a slightly This is
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 4: again marrying a truth to a lie to make a
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 4: different point. So let's let her say this, and then
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn my microphone off and you guys can
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 4: say whatever you want.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 5: Okay, Parents, I always get pushback whenever I uphold the
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 5: two parent household set up for children. But the numbers
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 5: don't lie. Every time a deadbeat father walks out on
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 5: his children, every time a marriage dissolves, the children are
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 5: not only subjected to a greater risk of poverty, which
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 5: is trauma in and of itself, but the harsh reality
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 5: that now they are significantly statistically eight to ten times
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 5: more unsafe than they have ever been. Okay, like obviously
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 5: with Nuance Nelly, obviously things are outside of our control.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 5: But these are the steaks. Okay, these are the steaks.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 5: This is what's on the line, Okay, and I hope
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 5: you all take it seriously. So think twice about who
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 5: you have children with. And it's also important to note that.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 3: Man, that's good advice, but she's wrong about the be
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 3: dad thing because most of the time, when there's not
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 3: a dad in a home, that was the mother's choice,
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 3: just saying.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: And also it's the mother's choice to have you know,
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: a baby dad or baby mommy number two with the
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 1: guys obviously not a good idea, like who gives the
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: tingles but doesn't have any kind of stable employment or
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: these guys are not like they throw out red flags
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: like crazy. I don't understand why feminists can't see these
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: red flags, Like honestly, I mean, okay, let's let's keep
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: no no, no, don't don't go, don't don't skip that
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 1: because this is the money shot. But yeah, she's right.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: Women need to be women need to be.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: More careful or actually recognize the red flags recognize that
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: as a woman, you are going to be attracted to
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: sociopaths over regular guys.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: Now, we used to have a whole What I.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 4: Was gonna say, though, here's the problem with that. If
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 4: all men are trash, then how can women possibly pick
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 4: a good man? What is the point in discerning when
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 4: all men are garbage? So if feminists tell women that
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 4: all men are trash, then women can't discern a good
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 4: man because there are no good men. So whenever she
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 4: picks a man, she just it's just it can be
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 4: based on values. Because men don't have values. They're not
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 4: worth anything, so they will pick bad men because they're not.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 4: They're told that there are no good men, and that
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 4: is good because when things go sour, then feminists can
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 4: step up and say, see, men are bad. So like
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 4: they don't want to solve your problem.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: It's like a song. It's like they say in a song,
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 3: or like that guy says in the song, there's no
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 3: good men, but you bitches stay pregnant.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, But you're absolutely right, Brian, because she then segues
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: into this, and it's not just here, it's also later
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 1: on I sent you the link as well. Later on
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: she just goes on and on and on and on
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: about how bad men are.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: You know, and she puts up a statement that's probably
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 3: from that website that's based on criminal allegations or crime
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 3: statistics that are a result of not counting it as
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 3: rape when women do it. So if you say, if
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 3: you define bank robbing as only black people coming in
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 3: with a gun and holding up a teller and anybody
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 3: else that comes in with a gun and holds up
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 3: a teller, it's not bank robbery. You call it something else,
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 3: then of course the outcome, you know, the stats you're
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 3: going to get are, well, you know, one hundred percent
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 3: of bank robberies are committed by black people because you
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 3: defined everyone else out of it. Nobody would tolerate that
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 3: because it would be obvious prejudice.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: But if you.
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 3: Define rape to exclude being forced to penetrate or being
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 3: forcibly enveloped by your rapist, right, then you exclude female
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 3: perpetration against men and boys. And then when you set
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 3: up statistics, when you when you exclude that, and then
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 3: you count the statistics on who gets convicted, of course
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 3: you're going to get well, almost exclusively men do this,
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 3: when in fact, quite a number of women do it.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's get into these stats. Listen what she
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: says about.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 5: That, So think twice about who you have children with.
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 5: And it's also important to note that men are responsible
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 5: for ninety to ninety five percent of all reported cases.
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 1: That's not even reported, that's not even reported, that's convicted, convicted,
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: that doesn't That actually doesn't reflect who is engaging in
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: sexual assault. It reflects who are society chooses to punish
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: for it. This is completely misleading and if you want
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: to use this, then something like ninety percent of all
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 1: sexual assault allegations are false allegations. If only convictions matter,
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: if only convictions matter, rape and sexual assault is very rare,
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: and also false accusations absolutely dwarf if only convictions matter,
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely dwarfed by false accusations, because the only rapes that happen,
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: the only grapes that happen, are the ones that are convicted.
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: So every time a woman reports a grape and it
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't result in a conviction, that's obviously a false accusation.
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 1: Like this is the bullshit that comes out of their mouths.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: It's absolute crap. If you look at the surveys of
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 1: people reporting on these kinds of actions taken against them.
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: It's equal in the last year. It's been found to
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 1: be equal for like four years in a row with
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 1: the SA except for sixteen seventeen, where they changed their
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: methodology and we're still trying to figure out what they did. Well,
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: whatever they did to change their methodology resulted in a
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 1: non response rate that was insane, Like I don't know
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 1: what the feminists did to that particular survey, but people
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: were starting to no sail it.
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 2: At an unbelievable rate.
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 1: Who knows what kind of intrusive bullshit they were needling
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 1: in to try to get the results they wanted. But anyway,
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 1: for several years in a row, they found that in
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: the last year, equal numbers of men and women reported
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: sexual assault like penetrative sexual assault or invelipative however you
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to find that. And the other thing is that
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: boys report more sexual assault around the world than girls.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: Boys are at six percent or night was at six
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 1: percent and girls are at something like four percent. Like,
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: so boys are being sexually assaulted more. There is now
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: more and more evidence that a lot of that sexual
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: assault is being done by women and girls.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 2: And then the.
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 1: Other thing is is that there are huge rates of
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: sexual assault by women in the histories of male grapists.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: And there's also a longitudinal study that looked at this
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 1: and found that being assaulted by women is the single
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 1: largest causal factor. Now, the largest dual factor is being
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: assaulted in neglect. The single largest causal factor is being
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: assaulted by women for a boy to go on to
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 1: assault others. And that's just a minority, by the way,
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 1: So bullshit that this is some sort of thing about men.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: This is infuriating and they always hyper focus on sexual
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: assault because there's.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: A confluence of social, legal.
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 1: Political factors, custom factors that lead to only the sexual
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 1: assault done by men and boys being reported, while the
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: sexual assault done by women and girls are poo pooed.
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: Oh that's oh that you should be grateful for that,
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: you know, that's that's just that's just the cost of
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: doing business.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: This is we are not at the point as a
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 1: society yet.
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 3: When it comes down to it, recently.
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: Recognize that women's sexually assault. It's going to take a
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: while before we really understand the prevalence, and there is
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: significant evidence that it is high.
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 3: So this is not down to it. If you really
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 3: want to protect your children from being sexually assaulted. Besides
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 3: the fact that you're going to teach them about boundaries,
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 3: You're going to teach them to stand up for themselves.
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 3: You're going to pay attention to the people that you
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 3: allow them to be alone with, and you're going to
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 3: make sure that you have a good close relationship with
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 3: your children so that they can come and tell you
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 3: if they're uncomfortable around an adult or something happens that
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 3: you should be concerned about. You all show also should
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 3: be prepared to believe them if they say something politically
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 3: incorrect about a woman, or somebody who is an alternative sexuality,
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 3: or somebody who is a minority race, or any other
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 3: reason that somebody might be able to use their identity
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 3: status as a shield against criticism of their behavior. You
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 3: have to be prepared to say, no, fuck that, you
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 3: still can't behave this way or my child, I don't
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 3: care if I'm going to look like an asshole or
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 3: a bigot or whatever for criticizing you. You can't do that.
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't put up with it. If you know my
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 3: brother or sister did it, I'm not going to put
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 3: up with it if you do it. And that's it.
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 3: You can't let those things be a shield. And you
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 3: can't you can't let your kids be naive. You know,
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 3: the teenager who raped me when I was a kid,
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 3: was brutally raped and beaten by his mother. It was
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 3: it wasn't even a statistic, Oh, he's more likely.
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 2: To do this.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 3: It was a step and another step, right. She taught
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 3: him to be that way. It wasn't an increase in risk.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 3: It was a direct change in his behavior because of
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 3: what he learned from his parents growing up and the
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 3: people who took him out of that home and put
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 3: him into the foster home where I ran into him,
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 3: not as a foster kid, but as a family member
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 3: of the foster parents. They didn't care about his potential
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 3: trauma from the sexual assault. They didn't really care about
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 3: his potential trauma from being beaten. They just cared that
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 3: they had taken him out of the home and they
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 3: were getting child support for him. Right. They didn't tell
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 3: the foster parents everything he had been through. I know
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 3: that happened to him because he told me, and he
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 3: let me feel the scars on his scalp, on his
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 3: head from where she hit him with a baseball bat.
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 3: Women can be absolutely evil just like men. Men can
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 3: be absolutely evil just like women. The difference is women
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: can use being a woman to get away with it.
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 3: Men cannot use being a man to get away with it.
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 3: And when women can use being a woman to get
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 3: away with it, that means that the effects of their
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 3: evil acts can have echoes from the person they impacted
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 3: to the people that are impacted by that person, and
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 3: so on without any steps being taken to stop the cycle.
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 3: Because you can't acknowledge the cycle because a woman started it.
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 3: That's evil.
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, what's next? Alison? Are you there? Are you trying
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 4: to talk because we can't hear you.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's talk.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 4: I can't hear you. Fix your shit, I was muted.
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: I think the final conclusion of all this is manifestol
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: is evil. I'm not sure we can top that. I mean,
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: there's this. She goes on to talk about how let
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: me just read it out so we don't have to
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 1: look at it.
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 2: She goes on to talk about how.
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: Show the mother detailed, this is the case study that
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 1: she had. The mother detailed how she got married to
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 1: this man quickly because she's a good Christian man, and
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: she can't. He can't be living with someone who is
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 1: in his wife. And this probably sounds like.
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 2: A romance novel.
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 1: No, like the man sweeps the woman off her feet,
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: solves her problems, gives her and her children housing. Wait wait, okay,
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: they get married within a week. What like it sounds
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 1: like a fairy tale. No, it sounds like an idiot.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 3: And it's not a real fairy tale.
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we have a live in reality Like this
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: whole situation is giving red fag central. Yes, so why
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: are you using it as an example of anything like, oh,
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: you have to be prepared to exit your relationship at
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 1: any moment. Yeah, sure, if you get into them once
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: a week, Like like, you need to be wary of
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: people who use identification with certain religion. Okay, yeah, we've
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: already done that. Putting the blame. I also wanted to
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: get into the misogyny of all placing the heavy blame
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 1: on the mother for not protecting her daughters when it's
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 1: the father who did the harming. Yeah so yes, but the.
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: Well I know that.
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 3: Either or thing is bullshit? All right? If the father
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 3: did the harming and the mother knew that she had
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 3: taken their risk that she was with a bad guy,
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 3: and she stayed with them until her daughters got hurt.
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 3: They are both at fault, that's both of them. She's
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 3: not innocent just because what he did was bad, and
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 3: he's at fault for what he did. She's not innocent
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 3: of failing to protect her daughters just because the person
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 3: who hurt them was someone she decided to fuck.
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 2: M Well, apparently he did.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: He actually sexually assaulted their biological daughters. So they got
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 1: together within a week. I guess she had other children,
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 1: and then they had more children, and then he assaulted them.
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 2: It's, uh, it's a bit of a mess.
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what she's really trying to say ultimately
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 1: about the well, obviously man bad. We can go to
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty. Let's go to twenty thirty and play there.
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 5: Capathic men, narcissistic men, harmful men like this. They can
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 5: be very charismatic. They're so good at making you feel
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 5: like you're high on cloud nine about yourself, and then.
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 3: They make you that only works vulnerable.
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 6: Okay, so you overlook everything, you know.
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 1: Actually, she's right, like psychopathic men have a personality style that,
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, women find deeply attractive.
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 3: Not for whatever reason. It's because women are largely narcissistic.
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 3: Women are vulnerable to this because women's primary means of
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 3: finding any satisfaction in life is what that guy is feeding.
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 3: If their primary means of finding satisfaction in life was
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 3: doing things to have an impact on their community that
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 3: is positive for other people, there is no amount of
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 3: flattery somebody could engage in, no matter how under the
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 3: radar it might fly, that that would do this, that
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 3: would result in this, because there wouldn't be a vulnerability
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 3: to it that it wouldn't be a means of tricking them.
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 3: They would see right through. It just wouldn't be persuasive.
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't matter.
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 1: But it's something that women have a problem with generally.
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 3: In this way, if you offered me a million dollars
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 3: in monopoly money, would I sell you anything for that?
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 2: Hmm probably not?
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 3: No, Right, And it's the same thing. They aren't. They're
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 3: accepting a currency that is worthless. Well, yeah, they're vulnerable.
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 2: But they're looking at that.
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: Well, specifically, the researchers that looked into it looked at
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 1: it as a potential evolutionary adaptation. So that's psychopaths Essentially,
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 1: it's a reproductive strategy to be more initially attractive to women. Now,
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 1: I know that's evolutions and lots of people don't like it.
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 2: But what I'm getting at.
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 1: Is, as a woman, if you know that this shit
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: is true and Manifestela is pointing it out, so she's
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 1: like Brian is saying, a colonel of truth attached to
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 1: a whole mountain of bullshit, pig shit. But if you
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: know that, then maybe taken effort to be suspicious when
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 1: you find this emotion engaged, when you start to when
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 1: they start to do this thing. And I don't even
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 1: think that that psychopaths necessarily love bomb. They just engage
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 1: in behavior that women find attractive. It's probably nagging and
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: all of that other stuff that pickup artists used to
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 1: teach men to engage.
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 3: In, normally manipulation of the ego, right.
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 1: The manipulation of the ego. But they would teach normal
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 1: men to become attractive in that way. But that was
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 1: all wrong because only sociopaths attractive to women.
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 3: So Dad's in the audience. If you want to arm
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 3: your daughters specifically against this type of man, then raise
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 3: them to not be narcissistic. Raise them to be humble.
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, raise them to to actually be okay, to have
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 1: a more positive relationship with criticism. So the thing is
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 1: that what I've noticed about myself is that when someone
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 1: comes in hard with the flattery, I'm just like, what,
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 1: what's your game? What's your angle?
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 1: It immediately gets my hackles up. And this is and
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 1: even if somebody comes in with like the insults, it's
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 1: usually it's it's this this kind of energy that they
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 1: give off that it's very manipulative, and it's it's fairly obvious,
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 1: and I don't know it just it's just.
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 2: I think you're right.
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 1: It's like, don't teach your daughters to be addicted to
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 1: fatuous praise or be vulnerable to to nagging. Like just
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 1: and and if you're a woman, this is what home
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 1: depot dad would tell you rather than home depot dad.
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 1: Don't like, don't don't be addicted to flattery, learn to
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 1: manage reasonable criticism. Like probably the best thing that a
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 1: father could do to protect his daughter from sociopaths is
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 1: to teach her to handle her criticism so that she
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 1: is not addicted to empty, empty flattery and she's not
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 1: vulnerable to negging. But you know, like, if that can't
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 1: be done, then maybe we should also teach men normal emotionally,
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 1: men who can emostly regulate, they have conscientiousness. There, they'd
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 1: be good providers. Maybe we would teach them the skills
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 1: to make themselves attractive to women as well. Just sort
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 1: of meet in the middle here. That would be a
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 1: benefit to everyone, wouldn't it.
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 2: Possibly?
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 1: Possibly we've had traditions that did that, that promoted men
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 1: and women sort of meeting in the middle. Maybe we
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have thrown them out under the guise of throwing
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 1: out all tradition means being a benefit. All right, listen
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 1: this timecode and then we'll move on to the next one.
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 5: It will be done and praising you, liking you, him
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 5: loving you. But can't you see like you are blinded
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 5: by the validation, by the love for yourself.
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 1: So maybe scharship of that promoting women's socialization to focus
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 1: so much on the validation, Like this is your entire channel, manifesto.
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't constantly stap my ass with validation, he's
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 1: not worth it.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 7: Her advice, Oh my god, read what it says on
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 7: the screen. Her fucking advice to women who are vulnerable
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 7: to psychopathic men's emotional manipulation because of how narcissistic they
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 7: are is to be so narcissistic that they can't be manipulated.
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 7: There is no such thing.
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 3: The more narcissistic you get, the more it bothers you
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 3: when people don't approve.
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the more you'll be responding to naggs, the more
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 1: you'll be responding to the sociopathic personality. This this channel
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 1: is women. Do you want to die alone with children?
• 2:50:05
  Speaker 1: Do you want a baby daddy and not a husband?
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  Speaker 1: Listen to me manifestel. I'll make sure all of your
• 2:50:11
  Speaker 1: nightmares come true for you, like literally, Get off the
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  Speaker 1: narcissism drug. Learn to take criticism, learn to make mistakes
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 1: and recognize them. Learn to see yourself in terms of
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 1: your actions. You don't want to end up with the
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  Speaker 1: freaking sociopath.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you do.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 1: When you do that. Sociopaths light up like glowies. They
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 1: become insuantaneously obvious and hilarious at the same time because
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 1: they're so easy to just poke, and you know, you
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 1: make them do funny things, and it's like they're just
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 1: not attractive anymore.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you do.
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  Speaker 1: But but Manifestel is giving you the recipe for a
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  Speaker 1: nightmare life misery. All right, speaking of misery, let's finish
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  Speaker 1: this some all right.
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  Speaker 4: I got a super chat I should read really quick
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  Speaker 4: from mister playlist Man for five dollars. He says, Allison,
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  Speaker 4: what was the solution that feminists rejected that would help
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  Speaker 4: with rape statistics? Okay, that's it. I don't know the
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  Speaker 4: answer to that.
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  Speaker 1: But psychological interventions therapies for rapists, so looking at it
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  Speaker 1: in terms of a psychological issue that can be an
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: individual psychological issue. So recognizing the trauma that a man
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 1: had experienced and resolving it in terms of therapy, like
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: various forms of therapy. That's what they didn't want, those interventions.
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 1: I actually have a recording from a radio in the
• 2:51:35
  Speaker 1: nineties where they talked about these kinds of interventions with
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 1: at risk youth. So they were doing it, and what
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 1: they would do is they try to get in there
• 2:51:45
  Speaker 1: help deal with the trauma because a lot and I
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  Speaker 1: believe that the woman who was part of this program
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. These these young men have tremendous amounts
• 2:51:55
  Speaker 1: of physical, sexual, and neglect based trauma. So you'd get
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: in you'd work with to overcome that, and then you'd
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 1: also model appropriate consent based behaviors, and you would also
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 1: like model a platonic relationship with an adult woman and
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 1: that adult man, and that kind of stuff that doesn't
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 1: involve mediating through sexuality, and then you would you would
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 1: build them into somebody who could understand appropriate sexual behavior
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 1: and appropriate sexual boundaries in the greater world. By recognizing
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 1: that they were at risk specifically because of abuse, specifically
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 1: specifically because of sexual abuse. Feminists got in there and said,
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't support our ideology that men use sexual
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 1: violence generally to enforce patriarchy, so we should oppose these
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 1: things because they don't help us control the narrative. So
• 2:52:53
  Speaker 1: they basically they basically oppose these kinds of interventions. It's
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 1: why they existed in the nineties and then suddenly we
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 1: had a huge like crater of nothing not doing that stuff,
• 2:53:10
  Speaker 1: and it's why there's a lot of people who are
• 2:53:12
  Speaker 1: involved in these kinds of social services that absolutely despise
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 1: feminists because they're destroying that the evidence and science based
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 1: interventions that they were trying to develop to help people,
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 1: and they were destroying them specifically to advance their ideology
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 1: for money and also cloud because that's what it's there for.
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 1: So like, I don't when I started this, I didn't
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 1: want to think feminism was as absolutely vile and evil
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 1: as it.
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  Speaker 2: Ended up being.
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: But it's really vile and evil. Like, it's really vile
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 1: and evil, it's all. There's almost no excuse. I can't
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 1: make an excuse for this anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, all right, So what's the next time code? Or
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 4: am I just playing more of this?
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 1: So egregious Charles says, I currently know a woman in
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 1: a relationship with the controlling, abusive man and he's all
• 2:54:10
  Speaker 1: about the nagging and praising rarely if ever. Yeah, that's
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 1: the nagging also plays on the ego because you now
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 1: want to get that supply for your self identity. It's
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 1: almost like that becomes the carrot and they just pull
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 1: it along. But you know, like both the nigging and
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 1: the love bombing, the positive, the fatuous praise, they're both
• 2:54:35
  Speaker 1: part of the same hook. It's like handing your identity
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 1: to the praise of another person rather than basing it
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 1: on your perception of your vert like what you see
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 1: as your ethical system. And you're developing your skills. So
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 1: one is based on the outcome of your actions in
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 1: the greater world, and the other is someone else's perception
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 1: of you. And home depot Dad makes his daughter addicted
• 2:55:07
  Speaker 1: to other people's perceptions of them, rather than developing her
• 2:55:11
  Speaker 1: skills in seeing herself in terms of her the ethics
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 1: that she embodies and the skills that she develops. All right, okay,
• 2:55:21
  Speaker 1: let's keep going something. We're losing audience for yourself.
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  Speaker 5: No one can ever control you, no one can ever
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 5: blind you. Okay, Like people with bad intentions, they hate
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 5: to see a truly free woman, a truly liberated woman,
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 5: a woman with.
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  Speaker 1: High manifestel, Satan tells on herself. Oh, I mean, because
• 2:55:45
  Speaker 1: this is what do you panel? But just fatuous praise,
• 2:55:47
  Speaker 1: an addiction to fatuous praise, which the corresponding downside is
• 2:55:54
  Speaker 1: you are going to be controlled by anybody who withdraws praise.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, in putting manifestel. All right, let's keep okay.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, can we go to fifteen thirty nine so that
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  Speaker 1: that's the end of it.
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  Speaker 2: I promise.
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 1: Fifteen thirty nine, fifteen thirty nine, there we go.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, At least for reported cases, this argument that men
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 5: who have resources are way more likely to control you
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 5: and hurt you and do bad things to you and
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 5: your children. People literally foaming at the mouth to give
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 5: their twenty second think piece on a woman who just
• 2:56:29
  Speaker 5: wanted better for her children, using this god awful situation
• 2:56:32
  Speaker 5: as a gotcha, as a see I told you so,
• 2:56:35
  Speaker 5: this is what happens when you're about dating rich Manala.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it is, like, look happen at her.
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 6: It's just not accurate.
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 5: All these studies on childhood adverse experiences. Isn't just a
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 5: conspiracy of people who don't have anything better to do, Okay,
• 2:56:48
  Speaker 5: it's people who have been in the trenches helping children
• 2:56:51
  Speaker 5: and their families.
• 2:56:51
  Speaker 1: Whenever you'res this is actually stolen valor that she's using
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 1: from people who are trying to help children. She's stealing
• 2:56:58
  Speaker 1: valor from them to sent this.
• 2:57:01
  Speaker 2: What is her conclusion. Let's keep going.
• 2:57:03
  Speaker 5: Adverse childhood experiences, including essay, happens in lower socio economic
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 5: status situations. And this isn't to uphold high sees families
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 5: and men rich men, provider men, men with resources, because
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 5: these studies really only feature reported cases. So in the
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 5: event that these cases are under now now it's important.
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 1: It's important to emphasize that there's a lot of cases
• 2:57:27
  Speaker 1: that aren't reported. Hey, man, I tell you want to
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 1: do some stats on those unreported cases or the not
• 2:57:32
  Speaker 1: reported to the police but actually reported on surveys, because
• 2:57:36
  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find you're gonna have to recognize
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 1: something pretty intense, the sheer rate at which women perpetuate
• 2:57:44
  Speaker 1: sexual assault.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's even more obvious when women tell on themselves.
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 3: And I actually put a graphic in and I thought
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 3: I had the book next to me so I could
• 2:57:55
  Speaker 3: tell you which book it was from. And I think
• 2:57:59
  Speaker 3: I am wrong, and I don't have the book next
• 2:58:02
  Speaker 3: to me, But yeah, no, that's not the book that
• 2:58:06
  Speaker 3: I was thinking it was. But in any case, Yeah,
• 2:58:13
  Speaker 3: in a survey that was done where women were asked
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  Speaker 3: about motives for sexual aggression on it on a scale
• 2:58:20
  Speaker 3: from total consent to using a weapon to threaten somebody
• 2:58:26
  Speaker 3: to make them have sex with you, you have a
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 3: whole set of different So if you look at that, like, yeah,
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 3: I sent him that that if you look at the
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 3: first set of that, like the first one is obviously
• 2:58:40
  Speaker 3: that's consent, that's not aggression, right, And and you initiated
• 2:58:44
  Speaker 3: contact is just assertiveness. You overestimated your partner's desire, So
• 2:58:50
  Speaker 3: that doesn't necessarily indicate that the individual acted inappropriately. But
• 2:58:56
  Speaker 3: when amandas that, it's presumed that he's predatory. So from
• 2:59:03
  Speaker 3: there on down, everything else in that list is stuff
• 2:59:08
  Speaker 3: that men get accused of being predatory for doing right.
• 2:59:12
  Speaker 3: And this is people will look at this and say, oh,
• 2:59:15
  Speaker 3: it's such a tiny little sample size, but they've made
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 3: allegations gender wide against men based on studies with smaller
• 2:59:26
  Speaker 3: sample sizes that had less straightforward questions and then were interpreted.
• 2:59:32
  Speaker 3: You attempted to arouse your partner, right, using my biology
• 2:59:36
  Speaker 3: against me. You threatened to end the relationship. Okay, that's manipulation.
• 2:59:43
  Speaker 3: You said things you did not mean. That's where feminists
• 2:59:46
  Speaker 3: start accusing men of rape behavior. Oh, you lied to
• 2:59:49
  Speaker 3: get sex, that's rape, right, You pressured with verbal arguments,
• 2:59:54
  Speaker 3: they call that rape. You questioned your partner's sexuality, that's abusive.
• 3:00:00
  Speaker 3: That's genuinely abusive, and they would consider that rape. Right,
• 3:00:04
  Speaker 3: So we're looking at, you know, from you questioned your
• 3:00:08
  Speaker 3: partner's sexuality down from from beneath that, we're looking at
• 3:00:13
  Speaker 3: things that are abusive ways to use sex. You had
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 3: sex to make someone else jealous, that's abusive. You had
• 3:00:20
  Speaker 3: sex to hurt someone, you had sex to end another relationship.
• 3:00:24
  Speaker 3: And you're seeing these percentages are all you know, this
• 3:00:27
  Speaker 3: is more than one in five women for every single
• 3:00:30
  Speaker 3: one of these. More until you get down to gain
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 3: something from a person in power, Then you're at one
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 3: in four to express your anger at your partner, to
• 3:00:43
  Speaker 3: retaliate against your partner for whatever, to gain power or
• 3:00:48
  Speaker 3: control over your partner. Right, and then number fifteen feminists
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  Speaker 3: call that rape while he was drunk or stoned. Number
• 3:00:57
  Speaker 3: number sorry, number sixteen seventeen. By getting him drunk or stoned, right,
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 3: that becomes actual substance, facilitated rape while he was a miner,
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 3: and you were not twenty nine point three percent, all right,
• 3:01:12
  Speaker 3: that is three and ten. That is just shy of
• 3:01:15
  Speaker 3: one in three. So a third, a third of women
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  Speaker 3: in this survey admitted to statutory rape. And we're looking
• 3:01:29
  Speaker 3: at you know, this woman talking about this as something
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 3: that men do. Yeah, something that men do to little girls. Yep,
• 3:01:38
  Speaker 3: a third of women admitted to statutory rape.
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  Speaker 2: Did you want to go further down?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just I wanted to emphasize that because
• 3:01:48
  Speaker 3: this is something that we hear all that oh most
• 3:01:51
  Speaker 3: most most statutory rape, most molestation, it's it's male perpetrated,
• 3:01:57
  Speaker 3: not according to women's own admissions. All right, by using
• 3:02:00
  Speaker 3: your position of power and authority, one in four, By
• 3:02:05
  Speaker 3: taking advantage of a compromising position, right, thirty percent, so
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 3: three in ten. By threatening to use physical force almost
• 3:02:16
  Speaker 3: thirty percent. That's twenty seven point eight real, close to
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 3: thirty percent, so almost three inten more than four and
• 3:02:22
  Speaker 3: four inten right, by using physical force one in five.
• 3:02:28
  Speaker 3: One in five women has used physical force to make
• 3:02:32
  Speaker 3: a man or a boy have sex with them. That
• 3:02:36
  Speaker 3: is the definition of forcible rape. One in five women
• 3:02:41
  Speaker 3: in this survey directly admitted to committing forcible rape. And
• 3:02:50
  Speaker 3: then we have by threatening self harm and eight point
• 3:02:55
  Speaker 3: nine percent admitted to using a weapon like machete.
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  Speaker 1: Girl.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember that story so well.
• 3:03:03
  Speaker 1: Presumably a girl threatened a man with a machete in
• 3:03:06
  Speaker 1: order to have sex of them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she threatened him with a machete. He
• 3:03:11
  Speaker 3: managed to, I think, survive this situation un physically, unharmed.
• 3:03:17
  Speaker 3: She didn't actually cut him, but you know, obviously he's traumatized.
• 3:03:23
  Speaker 3: You would be traumatized just by the threat with a machete,
• 3:03:26
  Speaker 3: because can you've seen them. You imagine the damage something
• 3:03:29
  Speaker 3: like that would do. Even if somebody that wasn't that
• 3:03:31
  Speaker 3: strong hit you with ed machete right and all over
• 3:03:38
  Speaker 3: your body. It doesn't take that deep of a cut
• 3:03:40
  Speaker 3: to kill someone. It just takes it to be placed
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 3: in the right situation, the right spot. You don't have
• 3:03:46
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of space, for instance, on your arm,
• 3:03:49
  Speaker 3: on the inside of your arm, where a good deep
• 3:03:53
  Speaker 3: cut maybe half an inch or more wouldn't be seriously
• 3:03:57
  Speaker 3: life threatening, And you're gonna get that deep with a
• 3:04:02
  Speaker 3: machete the way that you swing it, right, So that
• 3:04:05
  Speaker 3: had to be absolutely terrifying for that guy, Right, She
• 3:04:08
  Speaker 3: wasn't convicted of rape. She forced him to have sex
• 3:04:13
  Speaker 3: at machete point, wasn't convicted of rape. She was treated
• 3:04:18
  Speaker 3: as a mentally ill person, which, yeah, that's mentally ill
• 3:04:23
  Speaker 3: person type behavior. But if she'd have been a man,
• 3:04:25
  Speaker 3: she'd just been imprisoned as a rapist.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 3:04:30
  Speaker 3: So we see this and women admitting to these things,
• 3:04:34
  Speaker 3: and there are news stories like that where women have
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 3: been they've made the news for doing these type of
• 3:04:39
  Speaker 3: things right, and they don't make the statistics because instead
• 3:04:44
  Speaker 3: of recognizing, you know, that's forcible rape. That is the
• 3:04:47
  Speaker 3: definition of forcible rape. Oh, she's mentally ill. We're gonna
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 3: put her in an institution and she's gonna get treatment,
• 3:04:52
  Speaker 3: but we're not gonna call it rape because it's not
• 3:04:55
  Speaker 3: fair to call it rape if she's mentally ill. Every
• 3:04:57
  Speaker 3: rapist is mentally ill. There is no such thing as
• 3:05:01
  Speaker 3: a mentally healthy rapist. Rape is a mentally unhealthy behavior.
• 3:05:07
  Speaker 3: Nobody does that unless there's something wrong with them. It's
• 3:05:13
  Speaker 3: not how you achieve intimacy. So the idea that women
• 3:05:18
  Speaker 3: don't do this and it's only a male behavior is
• 3:05:22
  Speaker 3: based on ignoring information like this, or excusing information like this,
• 3:05:27
  Speaker 3: or shuffling it off to the side. Well it's too small.
• 3:05:29
  Speaker 3: This there might have been flaws with the study. We're
• 3:05:31
  Speaker 3: not going to pay attention to what women said about
• 3:05:33
  Speaker 3: themselves and taking cases like that and compartmentalizing them by
• 3:05:38
  Speaker 3: not acknowledging the fact that something can be a manifestation
• 3:05:42
  Speaker 3: of mentally unhealthy conditions and still be a crime.
• 3:05:49
  Speaker 1: M Now, and this particular, I guess we're gonna have
• 3:05:55
  Speaker 1: to figure out how to be able to show these
• 3:05:57
  Speaker 1: kinds of documents on.
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  Speaker 3: The I know you can't see the whole things, Gania.
• 3:06:01
  Speaker 4: No, the vertical it's really small because there's a lot
• 3:06:05
  Speaker 4: of space to work with.
• 3:06:06
  Speaker 2: So well, maybe what.
• 3:06:07
  Speaker 1: We could do in the future is just change it
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 1: to a to something that shows the document and maybe
• 3:06:13
  Speaker 1: the person talking about it. But that's that's that requires
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 1: a bit of discipline, I know on the part of
• 3:06:19
  Speaker 1: the the part of your panel, Brian, That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But the the other thing is that this isn't isolated.
• 3:06:27
  Speaker 1: You know, when you actually define women forcing men to
• 3:06:31
  Speaker 1: have sex as as a physical sexual assault, or you
• 3:06:35
  Speaker 1: actually capture that activity and you don't like the National
• 3:06:40
  Speaker 1: Violence Against Women's Survey actually doesn't capture women forcing men
• 3:06:45
  Speaker 1: to have sex using their vaginas as rape. But when
• 3:06:50
  Speaker 1: you do, when you actually ask questions related to that activity,
• 3:06:54
  Speaker 1: when you reduce the memory errors by restricting it to
• 3:06:57
  Speaker 1: the last six months or year, you start to find
• 3:07:03
  Speaker 1: a huge rate of sexual assault by men of men
• 3:07:07
  Speaker 1: by women. And there's more stata, there's more, there's more
• 3:07:13
  Speaker 1: studies that find this than just the one that we've
• 3:07:15
  Speaker 1: been talking about. So what I want to point out
• 3:07:19
  Speaker 1: two things. One, what Brian talked about, how actually it's
• 3:07:23
  Speaker 1: all men. That's what she's saying here, it's all men.
• 3:07:26
  Speaker 1: And she's specifically using the statistic on sexual assault to
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 1: justify a combatative relationship with men. So this is a
• 3:07:37
  Speaker 1: really critical statistic to start deconstructing, to start disassembling, to
• 3:07:43
  Speaker 1: get the truth about. And the truth is that humans
• 3:07:48
  Speaker 1: be rapio and that's both men and women. And actually
• 3:07:52
  Speaker 1: we're not really that rapia. I mean, there's some species
• 3:07:54
  Speaker 1: that's basically all they do, like ducks and porpoises, But
• 3:07:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like this is not a male thing. And
• 3:08:03
  Speaker 1: this is this is the key stone. This is the
• 3:08:07
  Speaker 1: this is the Resetta stone. This is the holy grail
• 3:08:10
  Speaker 1: for female self righteousness, the stats around sexual assault, because.
• 3:08:17
  Speaker 2: No matter what, no matter what argument is.
• 3:08:19
  Speaker 1: Made, they can always come back to this one and say,
• 3:08:22
  Speaker 1: see where superior, where morally superior? Therefore you need to
• 3:08:27
  Speaker 1: submit to us. You need to open up your locker
• 3:08:31
  Speaker 1: rooms and your boys clubs and your boys scouts. You
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 1: need to let us in then give us oversight over
• 3:08:37
  Speaker 1: you because you are rape.
• 3:08:40
  Speaker 2: This is their one.
• 3:08:41
  Speaker 1: This is the big Kahuna of arguments. It's why I
• 3:08:45
  Speaker 1: always go back to it and I say, we need
• 3:08:47
  Speaker 1: to break this one. We need to break it, we
• 3:08:51
  Speaker 1: need to annihilate it as an argument. If you're listening
• 3:08:54
  Speaker 1: to me, your man, it's as uncomfortable as it is
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 1: to recognize you are as vulnerable to sexual assault from
• 3:09:05
  Speaker 1: women as women are from men. And that's because human
• 3:09:09
  Speaker 1: beings are very clever. They use weapons. This is what
• 3:09:14
  Speaker 1: these things are here for, is to use weapons. So
• 3:09:17
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that men are stronger, because women will
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 1: use coercion. They'll use threats of false accusations. Well, they'll
• 3:09:27
  Speaker 1: use course of situations like if you don't do this,
• 3:09:31
  Speaker 1: I'll get some guy to beat you up or something
• 3:09:32
  Speaker 1: like that, or I'll get you kidnapped by the state
• 3:09:36
  Speaker 1: in a false accusation, or they use weapons or credible
• 3:09:40
  Speaker 1: threats like a violence.
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  Speaker 3: There's something else that I need to point out about
• 3:09:45
  Speaker 3: this image, and it's something that I think is very
• 3:09:47
  Speaker 3: relevant in the discussion of sexual misconduct in general, because
• 3:09:53
  Speaker 3: it is a form of violence. These are forms of
• 3:09:56
  Speaker 3: violence or forms of predatory behavior. This survey was a
• 3:10:02
  Speaker 3: survey of college age women, and a lot of the
• 3:10:05
  Speaker 3: surveys where feminists get answers from men that have a
• 3:10:11
  Speaker 3: higher prevalence than you would expect of yes answers for
• 3:10:16
  Speaker 3: sexually aggressive behaviors and sexually predative predatory behaviors are college
• 3:10:22
  Speaker 3: age men, and as you get into older ages, you
• 3:10:26
  Speaker 3: see less and less of this. Similarly to how you
• 3:10:30
  Speaker 3: would see, you know, when was the last time you
• 3:10:31
  Speaker 3: got into a bar fight, and you ask people just
• 3:10:34
  Speaker 3: that question straightforward, you're going to get a lot more
• 3:10:37
  Speaker 3: recent answers among the younger crowd than you will among
• 3:10:41
  Speaker 3: the older crowd. And the reason is violence is an
• 3:10:46
  Speaker 3: immature behavior. Aggression is an immature behavior in general, because
• 3:10:53
  Speaker 3: people as they age and as they mature, they learn
• 3:10:58
  Speaker 3: better ways of handling confects of interest between themselves and
• 3:11:01
  Speaker 3: other people, and they learn better ways of gaining what
• 3:11:06
  Speaker 3: they crave from other people, and they learn that aggressive
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 3: means of obtaining innimacy may get you sex, but it
• 3:11:15
  Speaker 3: doesn't get you intimacy because the other person is not
• 3:11:18
  Speaker 3: participating in an intimate manner. They're not on board with you,
• 3:11:23
  Speaker 3: and so you don't get that experience when you engage
• 3:11:27
  Speaker 3: in an aggressive behavior sexually unless the other person is
• 3:11:31
  Speaker 3: into that, which does happen on occasion. But so you
• 3:11:36
  Speaker 3: see like if you parent children, you see a huge
• 3:11:41
  Speaker 3: amount of physical aggression in toddlers. Infants can't be aggressive
• 3:11:45
  Speaker 3: because they don't have the physical bodily control. As soon
• 3:11:49
  Speaker 3: as they start gaining physical bodily control. If you have
• 3:11:53
  Speaker 3: children that are close in age, like less than three
• 3:11:57
  Speaker 3: years apart, the older one will start beating on the
• 3:12:00
  Speaker 3: younger one until you teach them not to do that.
• 3:12:03
  Speaker 3: And you have to instill a sense of love and
• 3:12:08
  Speaker 3: consideration and compassion for the other sibling or they don't
• 3:12:12
  Speaker 3: develop a sense of guilt over hurting the other sibling,
• 3:12:16
  Speaker 3: and these types of things as you raise your children,
• 3:12:21
  Speaker 3: and you instill those values in your children, and you
• 3:12:24
  Speaker 3: let them hash out their conflicts with each other and
• 3:12:28
  Speaker 3: learn the benefits of negotiation and cooperation and compromise and
• 3:12:33
  Speaker 3: things like that over using aggression to get what they want.
• 3:12:37
  Speaker 3: You see their behavior change over time. Some people take
• 3:12:40
  Speaker 3: longer than others, and so you end up with somebody
• 3:12:43
  Speaker 3: that into their twenties and maybe their thirties even uses
• 3:12:47
  Speaker 3: aggression and manipulation and other forms of non cooperative behavior
• 3:12:55
  Speaker 3: to get what they want from other people, and as
• 3:12:59
  Speaker 3: a result, they're miserable and they make other people miserable
• 3:13:02
  Speaker 3: and this is kind of a reflection of that. And
• 3:13:06
  Speaker 3: I would put money on it that if you ask
• 3:13:10
  Speaker 3: exactly the same questions between men and women, and you
• 3:13:15
  Speaker 3: do it in a way where they don't think they're
• 3:13:17
  Speaker 3: admitting to a sex crime when they answer the questions,
• 3:13:22
  Speaker 3: you will get more yes answers from women at the
• 3:13:24
  Speaker 3: sage same age group, in like college age, and in
• 3:13:28
  Speaker 3: their twenties and in their thirties on this particular subject
• 3:13:33
  Speaker 3: because they're less likely to have learned those cooperation skills,
• 3:13:38
  Speaker 3: those negotiation skills, the value of everything else that's not
• 3:13:44
  Speaker 3: aggression and manipulation as a means of connecting with other
• 3:13:49
  Speaker 3: people and getting the result you want in your encounters
• 3:13:53
  Speaker 3: with other people. They don't have the same consequences growing up,
• 3:13:57
  Speaker 3: so they don't learn the same lessons, whereas boys do
• 3:14:01
  Speaker 3: have those consequences, and they do learn those lessons, they
• 3:14:04
  Speaker 3: do learn that they're not going to be able to
• 3:14:07
  Speaker 3: get away with that, and they also learn that they're
• 3:14:09
  Speaker 3: not getting the result they want.
• 3:14:11
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 3:14:12
  Speaker 3: So I thought that was important to point out. And
• 3:14:14
  Speaker 3: then I will also say I hope I can pronounce
• 3:14:18
  Speaker 3: this last name pepito. Uh says Sez says Gootypez A
• 3:14:25
  Speaker 3: goody yeah pointed out, Uh the uh, this is the
• 3:14:31
  Speaker 3: correct title. This is from Anderson PB. Nineteen ninety eight.
• 3:14:34
  Speaker 3: Women's Motives for Sexual Initiation and Aggression PEB. Anderson and
• 3:14:38
  Speaker 3: see Struckman Johnson eds Sexually Aggressive Women, Current current Perspectives
• 3:14:43
  Speaker 3: and Controversies. And I have that book around here somewhere,
• 3:14:47
  Speaker 3: so do I. Yeah, it's all right, It's an important
• 3:14:50
  Speaker 3: book if you want to understand that that particular subject.
• 3:14:55
  Speaker 1: So okay, So let's finish this time code because it
• 3:14:59
  Speaker 1: ultimately it's her Manifestelle talking about how it's all men.
• 3:15:02
  Speaker 3: Incidentally, it's not all after her video age and sexual.
• 3:15:06
  Speaker 1: Assault are of a tiny minority. They are genetically distinct
• 3:15:11
  Speaker 1: from normal men. I keep saying this. I need to
• 3:15:13
  Speaker 1: harp on this. They're more distinct from normal men than
• 3:15:17
  Speaker 1: gay men are from straight So they are a tiny
• 3:15:21
  Speaker 1: disturbed minority. And so let's finish this off.
• 3:15:28
  Speaker 5: In a high se s contexts. I think the bottom
• 3:15:31
  Speaker 5: line is rich men, poor average men. At the end
• 3:15:34
  Speaker 5: of the day, they're all men. Okay, So, like the
• 3:15:38
  Speaker 5: people literally told me.
• 3:15:40
  Speaker 3: Fucking piece of Yeah, there's the Dooper's delight. Grin imagine
• 3:15:48
  Speaker 3: being happy about thinking that all men were rapists, Like, wouldn't.
• 3:15:52
  Speaker 2: You be terrible about lying about this ship?
• 3:15:56
  Speaker 1: She knows, she knows that this is a manifest lie.
• 3:16:00
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you're right, you're right. Why don't you choose
• 3:16:06
  Speaker 2: a good man?
• 3:16:07
  Speaker 1: And it ends with no, men are good? So how
• 3:16:10
  Speaker 1: do you choose a good man? Like Brian called it
• 3:16:13
  Speaker 1: from the beginning, probably because he's been on every step
• 3:16:16
  Speaker 1: of the journey into this woman's And the thing is
• 3:16:20
  Speaker 1: that look at.
• 3:16:21
  Speaker 2: Her channel.
• 3:16:24
  Speaker 1: Huge Yeah, no, no, her and the other famous female
• 3:16:29
  Speaker 1: dating strategy women, gigantic women love this.
• 3:16:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, she's female dating strategy.
• 3:16:40
  Speaker 1: She's spoilt, girly, she is one of them, and it's huge,
• 3:16:45
  Speaker 1: Like this is a huge marketplace telling women that they're right,
• 3:16:50
  Speaker 1: blowing fatuous praise up their ass and then yes, and
• 3:16:56
  Speaker 1: it's like and if men don't do this for you,
• 3:16:58
  Speaker 1: then gick them to the curb. Well okay, that's not
• 3:17:02
  Speaker 1: how it works, but regardless, absolutely terrible advice for women,
• 3:17:07
  Speaker 1: Terrible life advice, the kind of life advice you're going
• 3:17:10
  Speaker 1: to end up living in a nightmare if you follow.
• 3:17:13
  Speaker 1: But it tells you everything you want to hear. She
• 3:17:16
  Speaker 1: tells women everything they want to hear, and it's just
• 3:17:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's mind boggling. I mean, I just got shipped
• 3:17:24
  Speaker 1: from a woman in the comments of one of the videos.
• 3:17:27
  Speaker 1: You remember the video that we just did Brian about
• 3:17:30
  Speaker 1: the woman who's sex sex trafficked allegedly.
• 3:17:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I said, well, I mean it's probably true,
• 3:17:38
  Speaker 4: but like I don't know, maybe yeah, but go out
• 3:17:43
  Speaker 4: comment regardless.
• 3:17:44
  Speaker 1: I said, have you considered that you've been exploiting men,
• 3:17:51
  Speaker 1: specifically the men who have who come to you because
• 3:17:55
  Speaker 1: they have emotional needs that are not being met and
• 3:17:59
  Speaker 1: you are exploiting them like this. You're giving them the
• 3:18:03
  Speaker 1: facsimile of this kind of an emotional acceptance or whatever,
• 3:18:08
  Speaker 1: and that is itself an exploitation because and it was
• 3:18:11
  Speaker 1: in response to her saying, well, I heard some of
• 3:18:14
  Speaker 1: the guys that I had sex with were cheating on
• 3:18:16
  Speaker 1: their wives, and I felt bad for their wives, you know,
• 3:18:19
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was exploiting their wives or whatever.
• 3:18:22
  Speaker 1: And so I pointed out, Hey, what about the men
• 3:18:25
  Speaker 1: who were emotionally vulnerable and you were exploiting that for money?
• 3:18:29
  Speaker 2: And then this woman.
• 3:18:32
  Speaker 3: She was sex trafficked. Was she saying that someone forced
• 3:18:36
  Speaker 3: her to do this against her will.
• 3:18:38
  Speaker 4: We didn't go into that part, so we don't know
• 3:18:40
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 3:18:42
  Speaker 3: That's what being sex traffic is.
• 3:18:44
  Speaker 1: It's probably not a good idea to speculate, and let's
• 3:18:46
  Speaker 1: just assume it.
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 1: So one one, Heavenly Lea Sky says, whoa, You're saying
• 3:18:53
  Speaker 1: that she's exploiting men while she's being sex trafficked. Dude,
• 3:18:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not about that. Believe all women sheet, but think
• 3:18:59
  Speaker 1: about what you are implying here, Alison. Yeah, but you
• 3:19:04
  Speaker 1: can actually be a victimizer as you're a victim as well.
• 3:19:10
  Speaker 1: My gods, you have such a chip on your shoulder.
• 3:19:12
  Speaker 1: All of your arguments are so hollow and surface level.
• 3:19:15
  Speaker 1: After all my years listening to Karen and Mike's sorry, Hun,
• 3:19:18
  Speaker 1: but you're not why I come to these discussions. Yes,
• 3:19:21
  Speaker 1: I am the one who has a surface level argument.
• 3:19:26
  Speaker 2: Well, she you.
• 3:19:27
  Speaker 3: You responded though, to her saying that she felt like
• 3:19:30
  Speaker 3: she was exploiting their wives, right, Yes.
• 3:19:32
  Speaker 1: And I said, what about the men who come to
• 3:19:35
  Speaker 1: you because they have these emotional needs and you are
• 3:19:38
  Speaker 1: using that to make money? I mean, truth be told,
• 3:19:42
  Speaker 1: I guess they're getting something out of it and their
• 3:19:43
  Speaker 1: wives are getting nothing out of it, or these.
• 3:19:45
  Speaker 3: Others interacting with their wives. They basically bypassed the men,
• 3:19:51
  Speaker 3: and these people got mad at you for pointing out
• 3:19:54
  Speaker 3: that the men were bypassed.
• 3:19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were pulled into a a situation where
• 3:20:01
  Speaker 1: people are exploiting people and you're part of that, you're
• 3:20:04
  Speaker 1: still even if you are being exploited, you're also engaging
• 3:20:07
  Speaker 1: in exploiting others. Right, that's yes, she says she was
• 3:20:14
  Speaker 1: sex trafficked. I don't know if she was exploiting those
• 3:20:17
  Speaker 1: men when she was being sex trafficked, if the sex
• 3:20:19
  Speaker 1: trafficking was separate from this activity. But if you're in
• 3:20:23
  Speaker 1: an exploitative circumstance in which you are exploiting others and
• 3:20:27
  Speaker 1: being exploited, that doesn't change the fact that you are
• 3:20:30
  Speaker 1: exploiting others.
• 3:20:31
  Speaker 3: And it actually happens a lot. In fact, it's not
• 3:20:35
  Speaker 3: just with regard to sex trafficking. That happens in the
• 3:20:38
  Speaker 3: drug world as well.
• 3:20:40
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 3:20:40
  Speaker 3: Not everybody who hands over a set of doses of
• 3:20:47
  Speaker 3: various types of doses of drugs for currency is doing
• 3:20:52
  Speaker 3: so because that's the job they wanted to do. Some
• 3:20:55
  Speaker 3: of them are doing that because in their neighborhood, if
• 3:20:58
  Speaker 3: they don't join their gang and do that, they will
• 3:21:02
  Speaker 3: get killed by the gang members. Like that's that's the
• 3:21:05
  Speaker 3: reality for a lot of young men in urban areas
• 3:21:09
  Speaker 3: in the United States, in Mexico, probably in Canada, probably
• 3:21:14
  Speaker 3: in the UK. At pretty much every nation that has
• 3:21:17
  Speaker 3: drug problems, that happens, and it's mostly specific to men.
• 3:21:22
  Speaker 3: There are there are women that get involved in that
• 3:21:24
  Speaker 3: as well and do the same thing, but when it
• 3:21:28
  Speaker 3: comes to the risk taking end of it, like that,
• 3:21:31
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of its men. The teenagers that I
• 3:21:35
  Speaker 3: hung out with that were selling drugs were content to
• 3:21:37
  Speaker 3: it by adults who were part of a crime syndicate.
• 3:21:42
  Speaker 3: Like they ended up behaving as badly as the adults.
• 3:21:47
  Speaker 3: But the agency that they had as teenagers was nothing
• 3:21:52
  Speaker 3: like the agency that you know, a fifty year old has,
• 3:21:57
  Speaker 3: And so there's there's a lot of exploitation that takes place,
• 3:22:01
  Speaker 3: and then those guys roped other guys into it, and
• 3:22:04
  Speaker 3: of course some of them thought they really had a
• 3:22:06
  Speaker 3: good deal because they had more money than the guys
• 3:22:09
  Speaker 3: that were working at McDonald's, right, and you did have
• 3:22:13
  Speaker 3: quite a bit of well, yeah, that boy is being exploited,
• 3:22:19
  Speaker 3: but he just got four of his buddies involved. It's
• 3:22:22
  Speaker 3: not just sex trafficking, and people care a lot about
• 3:22:27
  Speaker 3: it when it's women, and would never ever criticize them
• 3:22:32
  Speaker 3: for roping other women into it, even though a lot
• 3:22:35
  Speaker 3: of sex traffickers are women who may themselves have been trafficked,
• 3:22:40
  Speaker 3: but then they rope other women into it. But they
• 3:22:44
  Speaker 3: would absolutely criticize those guys. So I think a lot
• 3:22:48
  Speaker 3: of times when you have something going on like this
• 3:22:50
  Speaker 3: and you get criticized, it's it's not compassion for the
• 3:22:55
  Speaker 3: trafficking and the exploitation the circumstances the person you're criticizing
• 3:23:01
  Speaker 3: are under. It's the fact that she's female, and they're
• 3:23:06
  Speaker 3: a bit guynescentric. So therefore, if she is suffering adversity,
• 3:23:12
  Speaker 3: it reduces her accountability in the situation in their eyes,
• 3:23:15
  Speaker 3: farther than it would if she was male.
• 3:23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's infuriating. So I responded with, oh goodness,
• 3:23:26
  Speaker 1: things are not popping up. Never mind, doesn't matter how
• 3:23:28
  Speaker 1: I respond. And I basically said, well, why can't we
• 3:23:30
  Speaker 1: talk about that?
• 3:23:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, she already brought up.
• 3:23:33
  Speaker 1: This idea of her negative effect on the women. Why
• 3:23:37
  Speaker 1: can't we talk about the negative effect.
• 3:23:38
  Speaker 2: On the men?
• 3:23:39
  Speaker 1: What's the block. All right, So yeah, ginocentrism. There was
• 3:23:46
  Speaker 1: one other chat that I wanted to bring up. So
• 3:23:49
  Speaker 1: Christopher Adkins says, I'm struggling with whether to come forward
• 3:23:52
  Speaker 1: or not. I've experienced female sexual assault and considered reporting
• 3:23:55
  Speaker 1: it and ultimately never did well. Depending on how late
• 3:23:58
  Speaker 1: it is after you, it may be just too late.
• 3:24:04
  Speaker 1: If you are in that situation, do it immediately and
• 3:24:09
  Speaker 1: don't let the police give you bullshit. I mean, I
• 3:24:11
  Speaker 1: think they're more and more or less likely to do
• 3:24:13
  Speaker 1: that now and to actually take these claims seriously. I mean,
• 3:24:19
  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of places where they won't,
• 3:24:21
  Speaker 1: so you might get some secondary trauma from that. But honestly,
• 3:24:26
  Speaker 1: we need to start holding women to account for their
• 3:24:29
  Speaker 1: sexual crimes because it's the only way that we're going
• 3:24:32
  Speaker 1: to take, first of all, that we're going to start
• 3:24:36
  Speaker 1: seeing an overall reduction in this problem generally.
• 3:24:41
  Speaker 2: But also.
• 3:24:44
  Speaker 1: Women don't deserve to be able to use this as
• 3:24:47
  Speaker 1: some kind of bludgeon against men socially, like this is
• 3:24:52
  Speaker 1: this is this is the thing they always go back to,
• 3:24:55
  Speaker 1: like manifestel, this is her excuse for why she gets
• 3:24:59
  Speaker 1: to treat her relationships as men as battle grounds. This
• 3:25:03
  Speaker 1: is it, and yet it is a lie. And you
• 3:25:06
  Speaker 1: can even see on her face that she must know
• 3:25:10
  Speaker 1: that this is a lie, that is not an honest face,
• 3:25:14
  Speaker 1: that is not a face you trust. All right, So
• 3:25:18
  Speaker 1: I think we have a super chat sort of wake
• 3:25:21
  Speaker 1: you up there.
• 3:25:23
  Speaker 4: Zaraenx gives us five dollars and says it's not like
• 3:25:26
  Speaker 4: the nx IVM case, where a woman who was said
• 3:25:29
  Speaker 4: to have spurred on branding people is also considered a victim.
• 3:25:33
  Speaker 4: Allison can't happen slash s and sarcasm. The nx IVM
• 3:25:38
  Speaker 4: is like a sex cult. They were sex trafficking or something.
• 3:25:42
  Speaker 4: And one of the women, I think the one he's
• 3:25:44
  Speaker 4: talking about was I can't remember her name, but she
• 3:25:46
  Speaker 4: was on like a she was an actress on a
• 3:25:49
  Speaker 4: show called Smallville, Alison Mack I believe her name is.
• 3:25:54
  Speaker 4: And yeah, they were like branding people and stuff. I mean,
• 3:25:58
  Speaker 4: there's there. Would you guys noticed, But Hollywood has a
• 3:26:03
  Speaker 4: problem with sex cults that that keeps coming up and
• 3:26:08
  Speaker 4: getting ex closed And no, I'm but yeah, I would.
• 3:26:12
  Speaker 3: I would put money on Hollywood disproportionately impacting these statistics
• 3:26:19
  Speaker 3: in the United States on all your manifestation of mental
• 3:26:23
  Speaker 3: illness that that can be measured in.
• 3:26:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the woman, I believe, Alison mac was framed
• 3:26:31
  Speaker 4: as a victim by the media, but oh yeah, she
• 3:26:34
  Speaker 4: was definitely participating in that way we reported on the show.
• 3:26:38
  Speaker 1: So I didn't even notice these these these uh, these
• 3:26:41
  Speaker 1: comments now have likes to the comment and this.
• 3:26:44
  Speaker 2: One seems to be between.
• 3:26:46
  Speaker 1: Four and six for some strange reason. Hey, could you
• 3:26:49
  Speaker 1: decide to like it or not like it?
• 3:26:51
  Speaker 2: Who are clicking that? All right?
• 3:26:53
  Speaker 3: So it might not be the person. It might be
• 3:26:55
  Speaker 3: the system. That happened to me too, I like something
• 3:26:58
  Speaker 3: and then a few minutes later or I look and
• 3:27:00
  Speaker 3: it's it's disappeared.
• 3:27:03
  Speaker 1: Ah, so we're just seeing censorship in real time. That's fascinating.
• 3:27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, rejection of your privacy settings can up to yeah, you.
• 3:27:15
  Speaker 1: Know, take take the take the thumb off a bit there,
• 3:27:19
  Speaker 1: c I A, you're you're really triggering my ass, all right.
• 3:27:25
  Speaker 2: So I think that's good. I mean I think we've
• 3:27:29
  Speaker 2: pretty much.
• 3:27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was thorough also unrelated. Richard Bierre put
• 3:27:39
  Speaker 1: in two thousand dollars, So thank you, Richard Bierre.
• 3:27:44
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Richard, Yes.
• 3:27:51
  Speaker 2: Again, very much appreciated, very much.
• 3:27:52
  Speaker 1: Appreciated to help us out with that, and again, if
• 3:27:55
  Speaker 1: you want to help feed the Badger dot com slash support. Uh.
• 3:28:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like although Manifestel is a distressing topic and
• 3:28:07
  Speaker 1: I would invite beer to Richard to maybe find someone else,
• 3:28:14
  Speaker 1: I do think that it's important to address it because
• 3:28:17
  Speaker 1: this is this is like the nerve center. Sorry, guys,
• 3:28:19
  Speaker 1: this is the nerve center of the bullshit.
• 3:28:23
  Speaker 3: She has a lot of women listening to what she
• 3:28:25
  Speaker 3: has to say, so that.
• 3:28:26
  Speaker 1: We are looking at the ID. We are looking at
• 3:28:30
  Speaker 1: the monsters from the ID, a monster from the ID
• 3:28:33
  Speaker 1: right here, right here, in this person, and she must
• 3:28:36
  Speaker 1: be addressed and dealt with or at least discredited. And yeah, no,
• 3:28:43
  Speaker 1: she's full, she's full of ship.
• 3:28:45
  Speaker 3: And this is the consider my initial impression confirmed.
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  Speaker 2: M there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Hannah was a complete virgin to the issue of Manifestel
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  Speaker 1: and she she picked up the red flag right.
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  Speaker 2: Off the pat. Okay there, I mean the eyebrows.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's not phrenology, it's eyebrow ology.
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  Speaker 3: Or it's not necessarily every that way with every woman
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  Speaker 3: with thin eyebrows, but it really is a red flag,
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  Speaker 3: especially if it's put on like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, somebody's asked me if we could do the view
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  Speaker 1: at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good lord, that's like the crack.
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  Speaker 3: That's gonna have to do that way, Like the hell, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna have to do that when it's not cold
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  Speaker 3: and flu season. Okay, because I haven't had a day
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  Speaker 3: gonna have a day off until mhm after the twenty first.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we won't do that anytime soon, and it
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  Speaker 4: We almost did three hours. That's a bit insane. No wait, eleven, yeah, eleven, twelve,
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