Latest / The Occult Rejects / Universe Unveiled with The Occult Rejects

Transcript

Universe Unveiled with The Occult Rejects · The Occult Rejects

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: What?
• 0:09
  Speaker 3: What's going to happen?
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: What?
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Occult Rejects today. We've got two
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: returning guests. They haven't been on in a minute, so
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: it'll be nice to catch up with them and see
• 0:33
  Speaker 3: what they've been up to. And I know they've been
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: very very busy lately, so I see a lot of them,
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of their videos going out, so they must
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: be doing something. We got Sarah and Jacqueline from Universe Unveiled.
• 0:45
  Speaker 3: I guess Jacqueline, we'll have you kind of go first
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: and give a little bit of an intro.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: I'll go first.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Well, there is no meeting without Sarah, so we're kind
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: of a it's a duo, right, So.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: I'm the co host.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, twin remember Nicholas, I'm the co host with Sarah
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: of Universe on Veils. I'm also a board member and
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: the director of Cultural Preservation at Institute for Natural Philosophy.
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: Nice, very nice, Thank you very much, and salad and shot. Sarah,
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: I know you probably have a position you can you
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: can let everybody know about to weren't you getting promoted
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: the last time your own.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the director of public relations.
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: That sounds important.
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: Someone actually, a whole board of people decided that I
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: would be the best person to determine, you know, how
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: we come across to people and how we deal with
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: people and our relations with people, and look at probably
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: probably a huge mistake for them, because I will throw
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: my shoe at you, But in any case, that's that's me.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: That's what I do. You know, I'm co host a
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Universe Unveiled podcast and then I have an admin position
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: on the board.
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, how long have you guys been podcasting now?
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: For it's been a minute actually.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: Not right, one year or one year birthday.
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: I was assuming it was neither that or just a
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: little bit over it.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: One year. Yeah, it's like an eternity and about five
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: minutes at the same time.
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, straight up, straight up.
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: You see a huge difference from how it was from
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: the beginning till now.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, completely different.
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: You have like an idea now what you're doing right now?
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: A little bit like we first start, You're like, yeah,
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do this, but I
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: mean it's a learning process. Hey, Sarah, Like we just
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: every week, every episode, every every day, we're like okay,
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: like we're learning lessons and changing the way we do
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: things and just perfecting the craft is as we go.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: We're just making this up as we go along.
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: We really are. I just know that the first time
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: we were on Occult Rechicks, it was you know, probably
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: nine or so, nine ten months. It was early on.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: We were so clammed up and we were worried about
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: talking over each other, and you.
• 3:07
  Speaker 3: Were nervous as hell. They even come on, I think
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: if I remember correct, yeah.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you had the whole damn panel of
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: people like no pressure, right, there's start and like articulate
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: and everyone's so knowledgeable, and it's like, who the hell
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: are we nobody yet and so but we're still here.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: Most podcasts don't survive a year, so we're very proud
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: to still be standing.
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: That is very true. I honestly do think it's like,
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: as long as your ship isn't like totally whacked. I
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: think as long as you stay out and keep going.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: Even if your ship is totally wacked.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah you'll get a following your whacked people who like
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: that ship. Yeah, totally.
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: But we're relentless if nothing else, so we're not going anywhere.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Good y'all got to deal with.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: Us lives regularly now.
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: I know. I like that. I like that. Yeah, I
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: remember that. I remember when you guys were afraid to
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: even do that shit. That's so funny. It's so funny
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: I prefer I feel in the pit of your stomach
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: when you're about to go live and you're just like,
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: can we just go back to bed? Am I sure?
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: I want to be a podcaster. I prefer live because, like,
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna screw everything up, like just let like
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: we're just normal people, you know what I mean.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Like life is not scripted. It's not it's not perfected.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: Like that's not.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: Really that's not real to me, and I prefer real.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: So it feels good. It feels good to go alive.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: I actually get asked, Sarah, I actually get more nervous
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: when we're doing a pre recording and I have some
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: sort of stupid script I have to follow. Well, I
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: almost always mess it up, right, almost always I will
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: mess it up, but I can just like, yeah.
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: I have noticed it does feel different when I don't
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: go live. Now, it's like almost uncomfortable because I'm a
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: little bit Yeah, Microscope, it easy for you when you
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: guys go live because then you don't have to edit
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: the more. You don't have to edit the video to
• 5:04
  Speaker 3: release it. Right.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: It's such a big load off of me, Like I
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: was drowning kind of in the editing and trying to
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: get the news out every Sunday and just record it
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: and then cut out all the parts where we fucked
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: it up and which were plenty. There's a whole blooper
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: reel on our page of us just fucking up. Pretty cute. Actually,
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go check that out.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's that's that's a Nie slapper, But I
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's It's so much easier now I can
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: focus on the information and learning and growing and finding
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: out interesting things, because at one point I was sitting
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: in the editor and I was just like this is
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: not what I signed up for, and I don't want
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: to be doing this all day, Like I got other
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: shit I want to do, and like I'm not learning
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: anything anymore because I'm just editing all the fucking time.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: And so doing live has really helped me to shift
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: my focus to to where I want to be. So
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: we like doing live.
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: We like to do like if our schedules were more
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: open I would just do everything live just for that
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: soul fact. So Sarah's not like change to her computer
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: all the time trying to edit the next thing that's
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: supposed to come out, like because we you know, when
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: you got so much you know, Nick, you got so
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: much stuff coming out all the time, like all that stuff.
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: That's like, I don't think anybody is just gonna be like, oh,
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: that's my favorite part of podcasting. It sucks.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: It's the worst part.
• 6:22
  Speaker 3: Oh it's so tedious.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: And you see the people who are making good money,
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: those people do not edit.
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: The people do it for yeah, yeah for sure, yeah yeah, yeah, no,
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah, it's a it's a drag. Honestly, it's like, oh,
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: I don't even want to hear myself, Like I find
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: it weird. It's like I got myself as an editing
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: fun it is to me, that's what I sound sound
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: like a oh I said, oh no, all right. It
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: just lost followers.
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: But Nick, what even up to You know?
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: People? May I know this, but I read a lot
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: of books.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: You know that. That doesn't mean you know shit about nothing.
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: You know that they got tabs.
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: Lass it.
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, everybody's like, yo, what's so funny because this
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: is so old. Yeah, it's an inside joke you gave
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: nobody got it.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: You don't know anything.
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: One thing I did want to ask because it's I'm really.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: Glad you brought that up, because you know why, I
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: don't know something about me. I'm just gonna talk about me.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that.
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: You got so pointing at the board in the back
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: and oh what an experience. Oh yeah, since since it's
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: been a while and I do have a lot more
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: listeners than the last time you guys are on, how
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: did you guys start up? If you don't want me,
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: you know, having to repeat that, because I'm pretty sure
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: you guys covered that the first time you're here, Like,
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: how did the podcast even begin to become a podcast?
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: Sarah?
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: You tell your sign you start?
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I found someone who worked for the Institute for
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: Natural Philosophy, and I started, you know, helping out with that,
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: and the president, Ricardo President, Ricardo the Padre. He said
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: that he wanted to start a podcast with like a
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: goddess theme and have like a female representation of the institute.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: And you know, I had said previously that it was
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: kind of a sausage fest in there and it was
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: like I was the only girl, and I'm guessing at
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: that same time they were in talks with Jacqueline. So
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: eventually Ricardo asked us if we both wanted to do
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: a podcast, and like, I pretended that I didn't see
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: the message for a little while, and then I was
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: just like, well, like I was having a yes man
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: moment where I was just like are you about this
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: or not? And I was just like, okay, like I'll
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: try it. Whatever. All I gotta do is talk and
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: He's like, all you gotta do is talk And that
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: was not the case. I had to edit a bunch
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: of ship. Yeah, that was some bullshit, do a bunch
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: of stuff and it's very little time just talking and
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: asking people questions. But you know, it's been fun. So
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: he's like we call him the sorting hat where he
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: just kind of he can really zero in on what
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: what people's strengths are and where they could best be
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: utilized within our institute. So, yeah, I ended up here
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: a year ago.
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: I remember, I remember when it was. I remember hearing
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: Ricardo talk about this podcast before it was even before born. Yeah, yeah,
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: I knew what it was before I even knew who Saren.
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: Jacqueline was like, I knew this this thing was going
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: to start. I just didn't know what was being on.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: And when he when he asked me, he just we
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: had like, you know, you do the tele like the
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: video interview with him when you're onboarding Institute day, Sarah,
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: so we have that, we have that talk and he
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: just kind of threw it in at the last and
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: he had already thrown like a lot of information at
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: me and I was writing it down, and he had
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: given me your name and that you and I should
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: kind of hook up and then and then he kind
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: of said, you know, I have this idea about a podcast,
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, yeah, okay, that sounds good.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: And then afterwards I was like, what the heck did
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: I agree to.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: Say? Oh shit? Yeah.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: But the story, the infamous story, is that we actually
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: hooked up a couple of weeks later on Discord and
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: it was like the cat's ass, like we could We
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: just got along so well right away, So yeah, nice
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: just hit hit the ground running, and we just kind
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: of leaned on each other, like neither of us knew
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: what the hell we were doing, but we both had
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: been consuming podcast material almost exclusively, right, for years, like
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: I don't watch the TV, I watch you Tube, I
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: watched other readers I watch, you know, like independent researchers
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: and stuff. So kind of had an idea of what
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: we wanted or we're gonna need to do, and then
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: the last year has kind of been us honing what
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: we want to do.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: That's more accurate for sure.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. I'm sure you've probably must have been
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: this last year, probably had an experience with just the
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: people that you met and got the interview, right.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you meet all kinds.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: And you know what I even like, no matter if
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: it's like conspiracy, witchcrafts are ceremonial magic or even like
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you would really call like your
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: kind of area, just fucking weirdos everywhere.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Sure I even love some of those weirdos.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course, I mean one of them, I
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: guess anyway, but like yeah, yeah, but no, I mean
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: definitely meet some fun and characters no matter what what
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: you do in this field, for sure.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, God, that's so true. Like I know, we came
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: on here for I came on for Dan richards and
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: then we had Dan Richards on our show, and that
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: was when we met probably the weirdest people that we've
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: met so far, and that was after the fact. Yeah,
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: that was a complete surprise, like just for like I've
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: never seen people so mad just for like us talking
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: us talking to someone, so like we had this mob
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: of archaeologists after us for weeks, for weeks after we
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: interviewed Dan Richards, Like I had no we knew it
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: was mad, but like, we had no idea that they
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: would come for us like that, and they did.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Like it was just like we had Dan Richards on
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: like I like for a few years, Right, he's on
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: my show. So I spoke my mind and I said
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: the things I wanted to say and had the conversation
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: I wanted to have with him, do you know what
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: I mean? And they didn't like that. They did not
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, we did have a little something to.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: Deal with there.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Sarah got her first foray into public relations.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah don't Yeah, didn't somebody have like a have like
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: a comment to say about you guys having the want
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: on some shit?
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: Dude? They were in the comments tattletale and on all
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: the weird and fucked up shit that Dan Richards has
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: said ever like copy and paste and things he said
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: to them, and I'm just like, y'all are completely missing,
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Like what I've what I've offered here is a proposal
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: for peace between mainstream academics and all these independent researchers,
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: people like Dan Richards. Now, apparently Dan Richards was just
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: not the right person to try and make this proposal
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: because they hate they hate his guts so much, and
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: they just they kept they just kept coming. I mean
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: like I had to just mute all of the posts
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: about it because just every ten minutes or so, one
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: of them. Then there's like twelve of them. And then
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: they have this other group on Facebook called Archaeology Wall
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: of Shame or something like that. So they're organized in
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: a way, and they're coming at us, just us, and
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: so like I'm running our ex page and so it's
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: just me and I'm just like I'm not doing this,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: like I'm out numbered.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Just whenever. Yeah, when I realized what happened, I was like,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: oh shit, Like I had to get in there. I
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: had to like try to help her because they were
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: they were pretty relentless. It was pretty intensive over the
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: first i don't know, like three or four days after
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: they realized that we had and we aired that podcast. Yeah,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: they were over blood the just terrible, terrible people.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: You know, I've seen a lot of people go through
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of shit with podcasts and kind of like
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: you know, dealing with stuff like that. And I'll be
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: totally honest, there's been times I've like wondered, like, you know,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: like we don't what am I doing wrong? Or you know,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like no, no. The thing is sometimes they look
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: at it like considering what comes out of my mouth
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: and other people's mouths on here on this show hackm
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: nobody ever really comes and busts our bulls or Nervis
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: says anything. And then I was thinking, I was like,
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: depending on how people view the ship that we're into,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: you may think twice about starting to talk shit to
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: five or six occultists. So I've actually wanted has that
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: ever kind of intimidated people to be opinionated because I've
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: never looked at it like that because I don't look
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: at it the magic or a cult bad. But somebody
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: who does might be like, I ain'm fucking saying anything
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: to those crazy motherfuckers.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: You're gonna put a curse out?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahs and raise the Blades next week.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're like this like Freshy podcast, two chicks,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're like, oh we could shot on them.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can come from them and eat them up.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: It could be Keyboard Warriors now.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah we look.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, I know exactly. That's actually real pathetic.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is, because I think that the the key
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: takeaway from me was like, I just officially want everyone
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: to know, like you, I can say whatever the hell
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I want, and so can you. It doesn't mean I
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: give a shit, you know what I mean. It does
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: not mean that I care about your opinion. If you're disrespectful,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: then that's you just kind of go into the fucking pile,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you can't reach out
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: and connect with me in a respectful way, or Sarah
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: or or anyone for that matter, Like what are you
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: doing on the internet, like shitting on a couple of
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: chicks with a podcast. Yeah, it's brutal. People are brutal.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I'm a master at pretending people are dead while they're
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: still alive. So there's that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Well, you're so busy, you're so busy editing, you couldn't
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: pay attention anyway.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like I got stuff to do.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just and then i'd get on X and be like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: oh look we have some notifications. Oh joy. You know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: it's just a screenshot of something that Dan said to someone.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And mind you, Dan's mouth is like some of his
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: insults are just so beautiful, like they're just they're excellent roasts. Yeah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: they're so well thought out and they have such a
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: burn on the end of them that I'm just like
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: that damn. Yeah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: But he's just so for shits, right, Like he knows
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that it irritates them, so he just that's what he does.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: He's just inflammatory for the sake of which I find hilarious.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But they take that shit to heart and you know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: put it in the bank, take the screen shot, keep
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: it saved with a timestamp, Like they're just insane.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they save those screenshots and they keep them
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: and they hold them to them and they just get
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: mad about them randomly sometimes like imagine.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Imagine, give I wish I had all that time?
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, please please, half that time, you're for real and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: half that time for.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Real we were talking earlier. That's just what this is funny.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: For real, We're talking earlier about it. Someone who used
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: to be on the show that spends way too much
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: of the time ranting and raving on Twitter. And sometimes
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: there was a few times I'd see that shit, I'd
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: be like, yo, I wish I had the fucking time
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: to actually be bitching twenty four to seven on Twitter, right, Like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I don't even have the time to give half the
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: fund does right now. Yeah. I used to look at
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: it like what the fuck am I doing? Yeah, I
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: guess that's the difference between somebody creates content and somebody doesn't.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: They don't have the time.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Sure, content creation is like that is some time consuming shit.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: And there's a few people that I know that are
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: in this too that are like, like, all right, Library
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: of the un Told, he like does all his shit himself.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: That guy has no social media presence because he's so
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: fucking busy. Yeah, you know, he might post his ship,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: but he's not out there like talking or getting involved
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: or arguing and doing this and that. The fucking guy
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: every day is like fucking working on his ship. You
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: can't be ball and arguing with fucking people on the internet. Yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: it's like I'm too focused on what I'm writing now.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: What somebody else is believing.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: That's true. Take it or leave it, right, take it
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: or leave it.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I mean there's something to be said about not paying
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: attention to what anyone says, although I quite enjoy it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Actually I like watching it, watching, like seeing how people
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: engage with you. Not only that, Like, we have a
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: ton of really nice, awesome, you know, loyal people that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: hang out with us. They hang out with us in
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: our lives, they leave comments, they share our stuff. So
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like the that's where I like to focus my engagement
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: is on the people who appreciate or have something to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: contribute or you know, hey, you guys talked about this,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and here's a picture of something that relates to that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Like people like that. Those are the people that I'm
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: here for. I mean, that's the whole reason why I'm
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: doing it. So, I mean, there's gonna be haters, but
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I actually don't care. It
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: tickles me a little bit.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Last thing I will do is sit here and care
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: about what you think about me. I don't do that
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: in my day to day life.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure ship, I'm not going to be doing
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it over some stranger on the internet. You know. Yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the worst. I will tell you the worst situation, which
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: is actually like the best situation the number. So, the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: lead archaeologist of just the most important archaeological site in
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the world actually commented on the thread, this is.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: What I was trying to get at.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, and he he, he had a couple of
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: words about us, and he mentioned the institute and it
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: was like the most perfect, unintentional promotion of all time.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: We actually put it on our on our extra banner.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's in our banner on X.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: No. You know what I was even thinking, like, yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: like even what he said, wasn't it was kind of
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: like almost a promotion in a sense because it wasn't
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: like too bad to where I could see people like, oh,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: let me go check that out.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: It wasn't horrible.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, I mean it wasn't. It wasn't
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the best either, but I can see I would take
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: that as like, that's kind of a wind still.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I just find it so hilarious that this person who
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: is in charge of overseeing literally the most significant archaeological
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: site that we have found to date, had time to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: watch the clip. Sarah and I talking to Dan Richards
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and felt the need to let the world know that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: he thought that we were abhorrent.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in that group of our and that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: wasn't the worst thing he said. He said that we
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: were straight up abhorrent was the word, yeah, that he used.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: But the other one I was like, this is great
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: pr And so.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: He said say to the effect like what is this
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Institute for Natural Philosophy? Are they like toting that name
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: just for like to give us credit? Basically like he's like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: who are these girls? What is this institute? Like? Literally,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: did I miss something?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah? You missed the whole thing.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: You fucking missed it all.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was perfect.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I think that was the moment when I was like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you know what, I love this shit, Like this is
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: exactly why I'm doing this shit because of people like
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: that who are supposed to be someone who stands above
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: like have have some diplomacy, have some tact.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: The job that you hold is supposed.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: To connect humanity, and you are the least qualified for that,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, you're out there discovering pardon,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: isn't he supposed to be digging in the dirt. He's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: watching some people dig Like you're right there trying to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: discover things. That are meant to inform the public about
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: who we are, what we are, where we came from,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Like those are That's a community building job and you
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: literally failed at it, Like you you spend so much
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: time on the internet being a jackass, Like how do
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you possibly are you worth what they're paying you?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Like, I just I don't get it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It was attention, Yeah, Haley, Hey, doctor Claire.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Well, because you know what you think, like like what
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: you were saying, like kind of the field that you're in,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: there is a lot of people that are in the position,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: you know, normal regular human beings that are in the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: position that are just fucking shit up by the way
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: they look at shit. You look at a conspiracy theorist.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It's like, way you gotta get George Soros to fucking
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: acknowledge your existence to like, you know, think you made
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: a difference. No, you know what I'm getting at, Like
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: you actually got somebody who's in your sphere. That's kind
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: of the problem. Yeah, actually acknowledge your existence.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Like if we had a set of trap for one
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of them to fall into, it wouldn't have worked out
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: more perfectly, you know what I mean.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: It really boosted the visibility of that episode. I will
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: say that it did.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: It is It's like Tom Hanks retweeting somebody saying this
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: motherfucker and pizza gate again. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly like that. Yeah. My problem with them though, is like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: if you're passionate about something, you know, you're an archaeologist,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: or let's let's change it from archaeology. Let's say you're
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: a chef and you went to some elite chef school
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: or whatever, and some younger generation comes to you and says,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking about making my eggs this way.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: You know, what do you think about that? And if
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: you respond with that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Why would you make eggs that way? What a fucking moron?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Like really really like, that's just you don't do that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: You take and you show you know this, this and this,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and it just.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Doesn't make It's so prevalent in this like class, like
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the elite educative class, which is where they feel that
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: they are because they read some books. Nicholas, They've read
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: some books, yes.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I will say I have. Like when I was at
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Cosmic Summit, I definitely saw the difference between adults debating
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: and childish behavior.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean you can find that everywhere, especially online, right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And the point I would like to make is that
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: this is a small fraction of people, right, So it's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: not representative of everybody in the field. Most of these people,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like I can't speak for other fields of academia. I'm
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: an anthropological student. This is the corner of the internet
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that I pay attention to. But most of the people
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: who are credentialed are out in the world doing research,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: doing good work, you know what I mean. They're not
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: all like that. So it's I think it's disingenuous to
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: stand up and say, oh, all of academia is this way,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: because that's not true. We've spoken to lots of academics
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and had people on the show who are just normal
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: people who are just as excited about find new things
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and discovering new things or you know, incorporating new ideas
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: or entertaining theories as we are. So it's not to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: say that all people are that way. But the few
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: little yappy dogs as they've been called, like, they make
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a big loud noise, and it's but they don't represent everybody,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: They don't so I think that's important to remember.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Like we wide.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Sweepingly say, oh, oh, the academia, but that's not necessarily true.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's not true.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Oh like over in Egypt, what's that guy's name? I
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: feel like that's the guy that's not the it's like
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the only asshole in the way of anybody getting anything
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: else done. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. People like.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: There's big money and bureaucracy and bullshit, Like there's a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff that goes into a position being held
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: by someone like him for as long as he has
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: held it, and you can put a spotlight on something
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: like that. But but most people right are outworking in
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: research centers and on sites and are doing really really
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: good work. When I have to go look for my
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: news every week because we do our news report every Sunday,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: there are papers being published every week about maybe not
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: really really exciting things, But there's people out they're researching
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and doing the work, you know what I mean. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: those people don't get any attention because they're busy working,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: they're busy discovering, they're busy doing their job, and we
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: need to be grateful.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of science stuff going on right now,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: even on this show a lot, I've been covering stuff
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: like trying to show like how I think, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of science behind magic, and there's a
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: lot of topics that I'm even saying, like studies done
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: in twenty four, twenty five, one idea I'm recording now
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: there's a study already done in twenty six. Like, there's
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff coming out now that seems to
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: really entertain what would have been considered woo woo many
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: years ago, which is exciting, and they're getting results which
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: is going to make themselves looking even more.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bridge there that needs to be made.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And I agree wholeheartedly because I'm not even a history person.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like history, but I'm not like the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: people that I'm surrounded by who just they can tell
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you all this, you know, elaborate history and dates, and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not that person. Like I came in through the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: wu woo door, and if you also came in through
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the wu woo door, you know you won't be there
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: long before you have to start digging into ancient history
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: because and you said it yesterday on Magis in the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Media Brandon Lee's show that these ancient cultures, like they
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: knew all about this stuff. It was common knowledge to them,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Like yes, they didn't even need to explain it or
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: least you too much of our record. They knew. And
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: there's a bridge there that needs to be made. It's
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: not magic. It's some type of science that we're just
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: not on board with yet. So we have this, we
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: have this dynamic that I think is unique where Jacqueline,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: you know, she's she's very well versed historically. But then
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I can look at it through like a woo woo
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: eye and we can we can cross that vision over
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and see how things fit together. And it didn't start
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that way. That wasn't our intention. It just kind of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: told us that that's what it was. This is how
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it's going to be. It worked, It just worked, oh perfectly.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: We actually didn't have to self adjust in any way
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: for us to be like like the perfect duo, Like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: where I fall short, she fills in the space, so
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: vice versas, like.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: The conversations that we're a part of, Like my goal
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: is to make sure that magic is included in those
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: conversations because I think that it has a space there
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: for sure. So that's why I love the occult rejects
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and everything you guys are always talking about. And I
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: try to follow be as many of you as as
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I can, and I can't either because all the there's
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of y'all and there's you know, a lot
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: of ground to cover, and there is such a thing
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I found as information overload, where you're just unable to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: process another damn thing until you just sit and let
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: your engines cool off. So I want to get I
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: want to try to get Brandon on our We're due
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: for a woo woo episode anyway.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Brandon would be good though, because he ties into science,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: to the nervous system. He gets into he actually leto Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: you know, he'd be a really good guest for you guys.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, that's what I'm interested in. And you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: we do our news every Sunday, and I try to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: keep it like kind of consciousness related and what have
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: we learned in the past week about like consciousness and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: how the brain works, And like, I've really been enjoying
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: your your cranial nerves episodes and stuff like that because
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: that helps me in my own journey, which is the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: point of all of this is to grow as a person.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: In my own journey.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why, that's why we're here, right, and
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and that's definitely a.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Grass journey for sure. Podcast. Yeah. I mean even even
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I would say, like, you know, at first, when you
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: say growing journey, I was thinking about all the stuff
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: that I've learned. And it's funny not talking about the
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: books and the book joke, but no, just even the
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: stuff that I've learned to come across or just the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: people I've met, Like how much ship that I was brought.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: In my talking to people and listening to other people's
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: ideas and you know, even if someone's theory or thought
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: is like coming in sideways and you're like, what inn
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the fuck is this one about? Like if you just
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: take the time to listen, and.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: That's happened to me, I've I've realized and was like, hmmm, yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: you know, my ego was in the way at first.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I think we've all we've all been.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Later, when I was just going down a rabbit hole,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait, let me entertain that idea now. Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Or someone says some ship and you're like that's fucking weird,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and then down the road you're like, god, damn, that
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: is what so and so was talking about, you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and you start to see a connection. So it's important.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: We have to we have to form community, we have
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to hang out with each other, we have to talk,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: we have to be you have to be open, not
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: just to share, but to learn and then to reciprocate
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and communicate. Right, So that's the whole point. That's the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: whole point of the institute completely, one hundred percent. When
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I first found out about the Institute and read about it,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: read about the mission like you know, the got the
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Ten Commandments if you will, from from Ricardo, like this
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: is what we're doing, this is why we're doing it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I was sold, like directly right away. I'm like, all right,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: because even if it's not what in the beginning I thought,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: even if this isn't what they say it is, it's
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: worth looking into because it sounds a lot different than
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: almost everywhere else that I've been online, like looking for
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a place to kind of like rest my head, right
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: so I could look into the things I want to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: look into and learn about the things I want to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: learn about. I've been all around, you know what I mean.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I've grew up on the internet, and I had never
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: really heard of a place specifically like the Institute. So
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that's why I jumped in with two feet, like, Okay,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: let's go. Even if it ends up not being what
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: it says it is, it's worth a shot. So and
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it's all about community. It's all about community and preservation
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and sharing, and not just of history, not just of
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: ancient history. But once you get into it, and anyone
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: who's in our in our little corner knows, it's not
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: just history, it's science. Like everything is so connected, you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Everything's connected.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I think the same thing with the occult. There's so
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: much layers of it. It's not even like I think
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: with the stuff that you guys are into, I think
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: magic fits in there as well. You know what I
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: love about Dan Riches is that I've noticed him actually
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: entertaining them more recently too, right, I've noticed since he's
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: even been on the show, he's been more open to
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: actually thinking like maybe there was like a magical rituals
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: going on here when he wasn't too quick for shit,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Like it's inevitable.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Though, the longer you look and the more you listen,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you realize, like it isn't just this, It isn't just
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that it's about the human experience, so that encompasses everything
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: that we're capable of.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's this huge puzzle. And it became apparent
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: to me very quickly that this puzzle is too big
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: for me to put together by myself. Here's no way,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: there's no way that you can track all of it
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and know all of it. And so, you know, I'm
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: happy to humbly stand before you all and say I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: don't have any answers, right like, I'm expecting us to
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: all put our heads together and kind of explore those
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and make up our minds for ourselfs. And this gives
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: me a place that I can do that. You know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Jacqueline can share the history. I can look at it
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: with you know, my third eye or however you wanted
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: to charmatology. There, I can look at it through a
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: woo woo lens and see what I think about it,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: and a lot of things I see and I'm like,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I think I understand what's going on there.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I think I know what they were doing. This was
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: some type of spiritual thing, or of course it was.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Of course, it was before before we had science and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: we understood what that was as like a like a
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: concrete method. We were spiritual species, you know what I mean,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: That's how we conducted ourselves. So of course that shit
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: has to do with each other. It's completely interwoven. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: like you said, Nick, I also agree. I on the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: daily see you know this study or that study relating
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to this or that which is completely correlated with magic
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and ritual and spirituality.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally right. Even you were saying before, And
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: it's something that I've been trying to kind of hammer
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: on with some of my shows that I've been doing
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: my solo stuff. Is even when you were seeing like
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: kind of not to be biased when it comes to
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: the human mind expectation, will mind fuck you so much?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Ye to where that if you already have a frame
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: of mind of what you're going in to do, that's
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: already gonna put your out what you're gonna get out
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: of it's already it's already been put in a box.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: So if you go in with less bias, why, yes, exactly,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: if you go in with like less of an expectation
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: and less biased, I think you'll see so much more.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking Sarah and I I don't even
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: know if we were on camera. Sarah's probably like after
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a live or some something we were just talking about, like,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you know what, it's all right to change your damn mind.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: The problem is most people can't do that because ego
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: first of all, but even beyond that, once they think
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: they know something, let's say you shut that shit down,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it gets filed away and it becomes a fact instead
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: of like a like a jumping point, you know what
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I mean. So most people can't say, you know what,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know shit about shit and what this
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: person is now putting in front of me, even though
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: it's not what I believe or what I think might
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: be true. They can't even listen to it because they
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: already know, do you what I mean?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was saying about that moment that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you form an opinion, you lose the ability to understand
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: it in its entirety. And I've lost itself from that. Yes, yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I read that somewhere and it's just been like heavy
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: on my mind lately, and so I try to keep
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: that wide net open. That way I don't get bogged
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: down in my own you know, fantasy beliefs or you
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: know whatever. That's very easy to do as you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: any any magician would know. So, I don't know. It's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: just a fun journey. It's fun to sit down and
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: hash it out with all these people from different walks
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: of life, and everyone has a different piece of the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: puzzle and we're just turning the pieces trying to see
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: how they fit together. That's that's what we do. That's
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: what we do at the Institute.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a game changer for me in my life.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: It's not only like for access and potential of information
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and sharing and community, but it has changed me as
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: a person, right because the caliber of people that I'm
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: hanging out with.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Is like, no, I do you know what I mean?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Like the caliber I'm like, all right, Like I these
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you have to take responsibility for yourself and hold yourself
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to a higher standard of openness.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I've tried to do that with the show.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so similar, you know what I mean, Like it
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: changes you as a person.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: No, No, I've let that. Yeah, I've seen that happen
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: with myself and the show over the last year.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yet we look at the community that you're building and
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, that's the way. That is the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: way to bring all these different researchers together and let
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: them put their heads together and let people in the chat,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you know, chime in it like this is the way
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: it was meant to be done.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: And people just hung out around and seize and through
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: ideas around and just trying to figure it out together
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: instead of everybody who's like, oh, I'm right in your room.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Right. The difference is I remember, like remember back in
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: like the nineties, early two thousands, you'd be sitting around
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the couch like smoking joints with your friends, you right,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I get to do that online, Like it's the exact
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, especially you're not stuck with bro from next door.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: You get to pick and choose, like you know what
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I mean. You get to pick and choose the caliber
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: of people, and you get to have like such a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: wide variety of people that you can listen to.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I even think just because of the way
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I've changed my show, that's the only reason I got
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: to speak to some of the guests I've had on.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's some people that you know, for me,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: was very I guess impressive or like just like I
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: cannot believe this occultist knows they exist right.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Same thing for us. We've had those moments where like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: oh my god, you know, we get to talk to
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: so and so, Like I've been watching this motherfucker online
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: for the last you know, X amount of years, and
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: now he's gonna be on my show or she's gonna
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you know. It's it's it's such a it's just a
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: cool opportunity. It's a really cool opportunity that I don't
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: take for granted.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: And sure, yeah, I mean to me, it's like again,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: like even to have David Shoemaker or David Ranking on
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: because I was so much into their practices and their
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: books that it was just like, holy shit, like you too,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: like hugely shaped my practice, and it was just wild
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: to be able to talk to them. Yeah, you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: to talk to so many people that I knew from
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: the occult community when I first got into it. It's like,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: not like trying to sound cocky or anything, but I
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: was like, oh a fuck, none of these people know
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: who I am now, like moment I ever imagined that
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: ten years ago.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Sure, but it's not cocky, it's not ego. It's more
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: like what the it's you recognizing your own contribution has
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: made a difference to other people, right, Yes, so it's
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: like a weird thing.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're looking at it from like the out side,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: like you know, like what the fuck has happened? Because
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: you're still the guy that found those people and started
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: reading or watching their stuff and getting influenced by it
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and feeling excited about the things that you were learning
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: from them. You're still that guy, you know what I mean.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: It's just it's down the road and now you have,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: in turn, because of what you learn from them, maybe
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you have given that to someone else. Right, So it's
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: a full circle moment. Those ones are weird to deal with.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: It's very surreal for sure. Yeah. I remember when I
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: had David Shoemaker when I was just like, holy fuck,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I have this guy on my show
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: That's how Will Scott Walter. It was our first episode
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm going big, I'm going, I'm going.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I've been watching Scott Walter's America.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I've been wanting to get him on, man, I can't
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: for for years.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: He's real, he's busy.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I can just call his phone and he's like hey Sarah, Yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Like what.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: The is that? I mean I met him at Mount Pilot.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I mean the guy took pictures with me and everything
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: and talked to me for a while, and I was,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe just when he saw the podcast.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: May maybe a little lego. I don't know. I don't
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: think timmyth Hogan told me a cosmic summer. Yeah, I'll
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: come on. I was all excited. The guy reads my
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: d ms and just doesn't answer me. I'm like, oh, thanks,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: you're not excited.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Now, I'll see if I can talk to Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know. Some people in the eco community
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: just don't like the show for some reason. It's okay.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: You know, there's people in the Thilema community that will
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: not come on, like they just don't like me. So
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I get it. It's okay.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Scott could pretty much go on anybody's podcast. He just
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: got to catch him when he's not very Oh well, yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: You can see from the videos the guy isn't home
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: two of it. Guy's going places and shit. You know, yeah, yeah,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: he's busy.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: He's a busy guy.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: He was a cool motherfucker though. When I met him.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: He's very He's really nice, really really, you.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Know, it was funny. I was like totally surprised. He
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: was even coming out and saying, well, I don't think
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: it was somebody that he was competing with, but like
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: he was going he did mention the fact how there
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: are shows that those things are fucking scripted.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I was like, wow he just said that.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally totally.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, I figured that's like the hush hushing,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: the whole fucking you know, part of the job. This
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: guy's like, oh no, this show is a fucking scripted. Man,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: if that shit ain't.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: At this point though, can they even deny that?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I what you say?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, He'll just level with you and
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: just it's just a regular person. I know that sounds
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like duh, but he's just a regular person like you
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and me, And like it's a good conversation. He's got
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: some you know, whether you believe his stuff or not,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: it's good stories and it's good food for thought, and
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: like there's plenty, there's plenty to get off of it.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, we went big or went home
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: with that. That was our first episode.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh shit, all right, here we go.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: You know, he's pretty with nassism too. You could even
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: talk to him about the occult and he can kick
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: it on that too. Summit he's pretty good with Even
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: though Timothy Hogan covered the gnosticism, he was right there
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: with him. He could. I mean, the guy just you.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Know, I would say he's a pretty prolific researcher. Like
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: if you look at the books that he's oh.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. I was looking at his ship
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: at Cosmic Summit, some of the books he did. I
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: was kind of impressed on what he was working on.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, and you don't research those particular topics. Yeah,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that's what I running into, Like the ocaul that's exactly.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was looking at it like, oh, okay, this
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: guy knows what's up.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love what he guys on a rant
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: about the Lagina Brothers, the yeah he hates them.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was another I'm not going to say this show,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: but he was. He was telling us how some show
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: contacted him and wanted him on it, and he was like, no,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: because you're scripted. Yeah, Like I think he said yes
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: at first, and then they like started getting into it.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: He's like, forget about I can't do this. He's like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: this isn't real. This is a script yeah, he totally
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: threw to the bus. When he was hanging out with
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: this at Mountain Pilot, I was like, oh fuck, I
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: knew the show too. I was like, oh, I thought
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: that shit was bullshit.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm hilarious. He gets so mad. It's hilarious. Like
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: he's got that Irish race. Oh yeah, I love that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I love an angry irishman.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Magus made it Magus in the House. But uh, one
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: thing I did want to ask you, ladies, from your
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I guess from things that you've looked into when you
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: start looking at I guess like at these old archaeological
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: spots and stuff, or these monuments or buildings whatever you
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: want to call them, these things that have been built, pyramids, whatever,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: What is that kind of the more impressive, like weirdest
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: one that or that captivates you the most, that makes
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: you just think, like, what the fuck.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: For you?
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Jacqueline.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna have to say I mean, I feel
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: like everyone picks us one now, but I'm gonna to say,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: go Beckley Tepping because it's.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Right like you said, everybody's going to be. When you
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: said that, I was like, I was just going to
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: say this because it's.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Because I mean, it's the one with the most significant
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: facts attached to it, not the most, but probably the
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: most shocking for most people in terms of age, first
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: of all, origin, we have no fucking clue how or
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: why or who specifically, Like it's all up in the air, right,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: And it's the most significant site with the least amount
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of research done on it and the least amount of
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: like actual archaeological work done on it, like that ship
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: is mostly buried, you know what I mean?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Because oh, boy is too busy.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Boy's busy on the internet, and if you pay any
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: attention to like the like Dan Richards has lots of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: information about this, lots of people speak on it. Jimmy
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Corsetti throws it out there too, But you can actually
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: just find the documents online about the plan for excavation
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: at go Beckley Teppe, which is basically nilche Like they
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: do not plan on really uncovering much of it, and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: they cite the reason is being, oh, we want to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: save some digging for future generations, which is like some
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of the largest bullshit I've ever heard in my life.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: So I would say for all of the controversy that's
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: kind of attached to it, that's the one that fascinates
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: me the most. Like we were talking about Stonehenge on
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: our news on Sunday, Like they're all fascinating, do you
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Like this shit is heavy as fuck.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: They carried it a long distance, and Okay, let's get
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: our heads around the logistics of it first of all.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Let's get our heads around the everything, the manpower, the planning,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: all of that. At the end of the day, even
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: if you can get down with all the reasons how
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: it happened, motherfucker, why why, Like we can do that
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: shit today, but we don't, Like I said to Sarah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: like it takes a work crew with electric and with
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: machinery and you know all the modern amenities that we
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: have that make that sort of work happen faster, easier
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: for us. It takes a work crew to build a bridge,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: not the entire fucking town. Right, we don't do that
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: stuff anymore. We just don't build like that anymore. So
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: why that's the most important factor for me? And I
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: think that that's why I would answer, go Beckley Teppe,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: because we have no clue.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: We have no clue why.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: They talk a lot, they throw a lot of spitballing
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: out there, and they talk about like hunter gatherer. They
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: do that like it's all up in the air as
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, Like archaeology is real good at
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: just making some shit up when they don't know, because
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: they're expected to come up with something, do you know
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: what I mean? So they say, well, this kind of
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: looks like this, so it must be like something else,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: which is I don't think. I think that's bullshit first
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of all. And yeah, so I would say go Backley's happy. Sarah.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not so much into sights. As I said, I'm
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: not the history person, but I'm into like cave drawings
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and stuff specifically like early early on when I first
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: started getting into this stuff. And I've talked a little
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: bit about my background with it and how you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: everything that happened with me magically was spontaneous, so seeing
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: things like for example, the one Gina, the dream Time
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: one Gina from Australia, those figures with the halo and
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: their white faces or what. And you guys were talking
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: about it yesterday on Brandon Show about scrying and the
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: things that you see and the flickering light and that
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: causing you do whether that's hallucinations or what process is
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: going on. I don't know have the answers on that.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: But when I first saw the one Gina, I was like,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I recognize them. I've seen that, like you see faces
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: and figures and stuff like, I've seen those faces before.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I know those like, I know what those faces are.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I think at least that's what's interesting to me, is
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: to see like cave art and things that they took
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the time to chisel on walls and stuff like that,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: and to see if it sparks anything in me.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Do it?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Do I remember that from my dream? Do I remember
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: that from you know, when I was just zoned out
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: looking into nothing and didn't realize it. Like, That's what
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I like to do. I like to see, you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: what makes sense to me, with no real background in history,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: what makes sense? And I like to find things that
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: stick out to me that I recognize from my own
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: experiences and stuff. The ancient cultures knew all about this stuff.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: They knew all about it, and we just don't know now.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: So that's just why to me. So I'm just trying
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: to figure that out myself.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is something I was going to bring up too,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: you know, It's great how you kind of like even
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: looked at it into two different angles with the way
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: that like, like you're saying, maybe that they understood this
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: stuff and obviously to build a shit that they build,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: they must have done like you know, somehow doing it differently,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: you think, I mean my opinion, I mean, maybe the
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: world looked different, but I think in some ways we're
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: definitely more technologically advanced, and I think that might have
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: been due to spirituality maybe. But do you think that
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: like they actually truly understood this stuff back then?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, yes, you know what I'm saying,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Like we don't do some we do not like think
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: about like that's what my point of the why was,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Like think about the concentrated effort of a community of
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: people to achieve things like I mean, I used to,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: well you use any site as an example the concentrated
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: effort of a people to do that. Do you know
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Of course they understood it. Like they
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: weren't doing it because they had a couple of free
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: hours on a Sunday, right, they were doing it because
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: it was the most important or among the most besides
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: like looking after themselves, feeding themselves, eating, you know, resources,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: raising their children, housing, all of those things. They did
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: it because it was the most important thing, among the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: most important things that they were actually doing. So of
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: course they understood it, do you know what I mean?
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: They understood all of that. So the methodology and or
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the spiritual factor behind that, which is completely lost to
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: us obviously, you know, Yeah, of course they understood it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I always get I always get like a little bit
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: fussed up. My ears perk up when Sarah. Do you
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: remember when Sarah Brayley said that she spoke with a
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Native American about the Stone Chambers in New York and
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he said, listen, this has everything to do with things
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that our society do not understand anymore. We're not ready
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: for it. I was like, huh, Like that's the kind
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: of stuff that that like gets me jazzed up, because
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: all right, like someone knew about it, someone talked about it,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: someone still tells the story, someone wrote it down. We
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: just haven't founded or interpreted it yet, you know what
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I mean. Like, it's just there's a disconnect between the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: spirituality of our past and our present. Definitely, Yeah, Because
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: what happened to me and my magical experience that I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: fell backwards into was just.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: What it's. It's like they describe as like a Native
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: American vision quist, like where you go out into the
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: woods and you starve, and you just started just in
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: such a bad way that all of a sudden you
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: come out a different person with all this insight and
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: all these you know, maybe a prophecy or two or
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: some things you didn't know before.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of mushrooms.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe a couple shrooms, like, but in any case, it's
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: the same process. You go out, you suffer, you come back,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: you you've grown, you, you hit the next level in
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: some way. And so like that's where I've been finding
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the most information about my own situation is through you know,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: ancient practices like the vision quest and what she's describing
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: as they would send these people into these chambers to
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: go become m h. And I'm like, I know exactly
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: what she's talking about. Yep, I know. I know what
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: they were doing in there, like straight up.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: The right of passage, the flow chamber shit, or even
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: like going in the like you know, because I've even
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: been involved in initiations where the room is completely dark,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: almost just one candle, so they doing the stand that
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: darkness can play like a role and stuff. And when
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: you know, when I looked into it and eventually covered it.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: You know that being put in a chamber or a
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: dark room, your your brain will start losing a almost
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: start being like, I'm not exactly sure where the body
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: ends now because I can't see.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Right, right, I'm gonna make it up as that.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's your brain starts making up a
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: lot of ship as it goes.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: It does. But it's like it's your.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Nervous system starts working differently.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Right, It's like being not lost, but completely immersed in
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: that presence in that in that elevation of yourself, like
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: everything else gets taken away, right. So yeah, but that's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: like think about how our society is structured and how
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: that is so ridiculously frowned upon.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Right. They do this main thing though, in the military,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Like they send you to boot camp. It's the worst.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: It's the worst time you've ever had. They're yelling at
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you the whole time, and like there's all these things.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: They tie you up and make you jump in a
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: pool and tread water and all this crazy. I don't
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: know what they do anymore. It's to break you, it's
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: to bring you down to your lowest point in your life,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: so they can, though you can put it back together
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: in a way that is beneficial to them. They're still
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: using this technology, if you will. They still use it today.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: It's not forgotten. Somebody knows because we're still using it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean we get reprogrammed from lots of
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: different things and lots of different directions, right, exactly, yeah, exactly.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I've even said, you know, just talking about the dark.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: I think I said it on Brandon's show, and I
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: said it on something I covered recently. Even if you
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: want to go back a few hundred years ago when
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: all we had was like candles and fires, like without
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: all this uh you know, fake light. What do you
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: think it looked like at night? Fucking dark man? It
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: will be dark, but real dark you use. The moonlight
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: was the moonlight.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And I mean I've spent time in complete darkness at
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: night in the woods for long periods of time, and
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you become a different animal.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Over there, you know what I mean.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: You can see better, your senses are heightened, you can
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: hear things, sense things before you hear them, and you
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: can definitely see better in the dark.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: So the.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: People that preceded us, like ten thousand years ago. They
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: were us. They had the same mental capacity that we have,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: They had the same brain, they had the same functionality,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: they had everything like for the last three hundred thousand
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: years we've been this, you know, but they were living
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: in an environment that served their spirituality much better than
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: the one that we're living in now. Yeah, So all
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of those extra sensory things that we make it seem
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: like they're something beyond that we can't reach or it's
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: not normal to feel those things that I believe it
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: was completely normal back then to feel those things like
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: you know it when you encounter it. Now most people,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: probably by accident, some people because they have put themselves
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: in a position to seek it out or to connect
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: with it. But it's like you only get it for
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: a minute, you only grasp it for a moment. It
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't last because our environment, our society is not conducive
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: to developing that portion of our brain, do you know
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: what I mean? So, like, I think that's probably like
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: square one where the disconnect is why we can't understand
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: are what our spiritual being really is. And like when
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you like that innate feeling that every person in the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: modern world feels I don't. Some people pretend like they
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: don't because it's easier to just get through life and
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: pretend that you don't where you're like, this bullshit is
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: not what I'm supposed to be doing. This does not
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: feel right to me, like that existential crisis that you
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: go through, like in these little micro moments throughout every
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: single day. Every morning, I'll wake up and I'm supposed
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: to go to work. I even half ass like my job,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: but I still feel like, fuck, why do I have
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: to do this?
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I would gotta be more. There's got to be more.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be putting on my hike and shoes and
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: going for a walk with a book, you know what
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, have a little mushy snack on my way,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Like that's what I want to fucking do every.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Day because I don't.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I feel I'm disconnected from my being my person.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: So I think I was just I was just telling
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Jacqueline that last night that I don't know if any
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: has anyone in the chat ever seen that show Yellowjackets.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: For these girls they crash on a plane and then
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: they end up lost in the woods and no one
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: can find them, and a year goes by they're still
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: in the woods and they revert back to like the solstice,
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: and like they make it through this winter, and it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: seems like it goes on forever. It's this harsh ass
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: winter and people die and all this stuff, and then
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: then spring comes and all of a sudden, they're, you know,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: celebrating all this and you know, the rebirth and the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: red and it really did feel like a rebirth. You
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: could feel it watching the show, and you could see how,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: you know, we don't react that way. Now we sit
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: inside in our heat and we've got plenty of food
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: and stuff. But back then, when they didn't have all
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: this stuff, it really truly was like we made it
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: through that, y'all right, we made it through like it's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: a rebirth. And they were they're connected, so you know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: of course they painted it in a Hollywood light where
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: it's the devil or whatever, but I could do without that.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: But it's it's there's some insight in it that I've
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: been enjoying. So if anyone seen Yellowjackets, I put it
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: on my too watch list. Girl. Yeah, like it's got
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: some good insight on that. That whole process. They went
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: crazy not to spoil anything. It shows the fine line
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: there too, between like letting this consume you and keeping
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: a clear head, because you can go crazy looking into
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: this stuff. Straight up. We all know that, we all
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: know those crazy people that are just saying this outlandish stuff,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, bud dialing just a little. You know,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: there's a tight rope walk that you have to do
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: so that you don't lose your mind, like you still
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: have to blend with society, you know, but so like
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: it's a like a tug of war going on in there.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Mhm, Sarah, Well, did you bring the link for the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: institute page?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Yea.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't drop in there, put in the chat
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: and I'll drop it. It should show up. Yeah what uh?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: I was going to say something.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what this button do? What's this button?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Dew give it a world girl.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: What do you guys? I've noticed you guys have been
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: big on the Mars thing lately.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've been collaborating with the Multiverse for
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the Mars panel that's got Brian, Corey Dobbs and Jean Ward.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: They're too well. Brian says he's not a researcher, he's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: a filmmaker, but he is a researcher, and John Ward's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: research is top notch, Like he's got a lot of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: stuff on Mars and you know, figuring out that whole
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: conundrum with Mars and going there and life on Mars
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: and whether or not we originated there and think remote
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: We did remote viewing on Mars this past Sunday, so
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: that was pretty interesting, like remote viewers and people who
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: were saying that they remote viewed Mars and there was
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: life there and things like that. So he's starting to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: dabble into the into the spiritual side, and I think
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: that that's great. He's in for a wild ride.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do the Mars Panel. It's hosted by Dave's Multiverse.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: They do it every second Sunday at about like what
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: is it three o'clocks ERA three, three four o'clock for
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Eastern Okay, And yeah, it's really good, really good. You
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Shaman Ricardo's there, Olek David.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Meghan.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a big panel, but it's a great
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: panel because it really honestly covers. It covers all the bases, right,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: all the perspectives are kind of represented, and so what
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you end up with is a really well rounded discussion
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: of people who have a genuine interest in the everything
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Mars and Brian Corey Dobbs. He did Blue Planet Red,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: so he did a documentary on Mars and this is
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: what kind of set all that off.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I had him on.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: He was a nice guy. I met him my cousin.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: He is a nice guy.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I thought he was gonna maybe he's taken
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: a back seat to it, but I thought when he
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: was on the show he said he was going to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: get into the Gateway stuff soon, but maybe it seems
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: like he's still stuck on the Mars stuff.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Well, his documentary. When the documentary come out, Sarah, not long.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Ago, I don't remember. It's been some months at.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Least, maybe early promise. Yea, it is on Prime. Yeah,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: it's really good.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he sent he sent me a I watched the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: free copy of it what he sent me before. Yeah,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: that was actually kind of impressed. It was very well done.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: I thought, m h, his Mars excursion and the Gateway
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: stuff is all fixing across each other and Brian's.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Well that is it. Yeah, because you know, I was
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: actually gonna say it, I totally forgot. I don't know
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: if it was Joseph mcmonagall, if that's the guy's name.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: But there was somebody in the Gateway project that supposedly
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: went to Mars, right, I think, oh yeah, yeah, so
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: I could see how it would tie over. Yeah, somebody
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: says that they supposedly neither Astral traveled or went to Marsh. Yeah,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: so I could see the connection right there.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's worth exploring for sure, I think.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I know one person that I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: think they focused on in those Gateway papers was Joseph mcmonagall.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: I think that's his name or something close to that.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was him, but I know
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: somebody supposedly there was mentioned. I'm pretty sure of going
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: to Mars like a fucked ton, like a long time ago.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: It was even like crazy in the past, crazy amount
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: of time in the past. Yeah, I was like, oh, okay,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: that's interesting.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when Earth was still not habitable. Yeah, like before Earth,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Mars was the Earth like planet in our solar systems
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: and all this stuff. Yeah, And I mean, I'm oupen
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: to explore it. I'm not one hundred percent sold on
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: any of it, because, like I said, once you form
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: a concrete opinion about something you can't see past it.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: So none of us have the answers. And we say
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: this all the time, none of us know. Anyone in
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: the chat say I know that's bullshit, blah blah. You
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: don't know either, Shut up, I don't know. You don't
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: have all the answers and I don't have all the answers.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: We're equals, bucko.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we just joy. You can still be Arizona for
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: all we know.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, we don't know, and we don't you know what
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: we don't know?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I will say because we had Brian on to do
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: an episode, I will say that until he showed me
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: and walked me through the evidence, like the organic evidence,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: fossilized evidence, I was like, okay, like, oh this is fun,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm being dead honest, I was.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I'll entertain anyone's theories, talk about anything. But until he
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: showed me that. After that, I was like, okay, like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: this is something.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's what I thought. I did find that
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: impressive because I will say, I'm not even sure if
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: I believe the planets are real. So I still had
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: them on though, because I was interested in what he said,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: and when I watched his video idea was new shit
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: that I thought, at least I haven't heard it brought
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: to the table, and it was that stuff because I'll
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: keep it real. I mean this pyramid in the face,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: I mean that, you know, I saw that shit twenty
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: years ago. You know, it's not new.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are like the more popular paradolia, is right,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: the paradolias. But there's lots of things.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, there's other things that he showed and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: this and the stuff that got you know whatever that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: you mentioned that I thought it was really interesting and weird.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. We go over new artifacts every
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: time we're on there, so of course we started with
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: the face and the pyramid, but there's other pyramid like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: structures and other artifacts and you know a lot of people. Yeah,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: certain shapes that are not uniform with the areas around it,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: and you know, could it be things that fell off
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: of a rover. I don't know, Like, but we have
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: one up there, so like maybe send it over there
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: and go look at it, Like it'd be so easy
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: to do, Like why won't you do it? Just do it?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: You're like you're already over there, you got the picture,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Like you couldn't get it.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: You're already there, like you're passing the store on the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: way home. Stop ground That's all I'm asking them to do.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: There's not anything groundbreaking here. Just ride by and pick
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: them up for me.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Hard hard, snap a shot, and keep keep it moving.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, was that?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Did he even have stuff where it looked like there
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: was like stuff like almost like holes in the wall
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: and stuff like in wolves.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, like there's everything old gambit of of of evidence,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: which some of it I'm gonna be honest, I'm kind
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: of like, okay, like that's but some of it is
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: really compelled.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Some of it.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of it's very compelling, Like every
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: single thing can't be paradolia, you know what I mean.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: I even think like even depending on how you look
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: at it, it's like, all right, either you know this
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: place is real or they fucked up giving us propaganda photos,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: and this is proving that you know, this is actually
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: fake because there's real shit in this picture. Even either
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: way you can prove a point with that stuff.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: That's right either way, either way, it deserves attention.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like either like that's a soda can and
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: an Arizona you know, look for Utah. Yeah, and we
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: threw a va Yeah, some kind of like you know,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: orange tint to it now and you can't tell it
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: was a you know, die coke right right, and we're
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: thinking it's like a cylinder, a part of a rover,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: you know, somebody's bud light can Yeah, yeah, exactly, a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: natural light even worse. Oh god, Yeah, I remember those ships,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: you know, when I was young, you got like a
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: twelve pack for five bucks.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: You were like score high school score. Yeah, it's cheat
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: and it works.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got that.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know did you guys have in Canada. We
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of those ones you were talking about,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: but we had Cold forty five.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah I remember that. Yeah, yeah, crazy horse Oldie.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Cold forty five was the one and two zig zags.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: There you go, just like the song of our people.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the high school recipe, the junior high school
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: recipe where I come from.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: I had that.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Mister Boston Vodka was like seven dollars a bottle straight gasoline.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Worst hangover you've ever had.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We bought the chief Ship when we were younger
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: and found out why it was cheap. Yeah, destroy your liver.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Stel Reserve.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, God, red Dog yep o good. Yeah, Yeah, that's funny.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Oh man, So what's what's new for you guys, Like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: anything that you got like kind of coming up that
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: you're interested in or that you might be like, or
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: guests such are shooting for or topics that you want
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: to kind of cover on the show.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to go over We do have uh,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Sarah Brayley's episode premiering tomorrow at tomorrown pm Eastern, and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: we'll be in the live chat. Sarah will be in
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: the live chat as well, answering questions, and then after
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: that we have George Howard's episode coming out, so that'll
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: be like two weeks from now. So but our next
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: episode is tomorrow at seven pm. But I wanted to
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: kind of go over a little bit if we have time,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: what the Institute's got going on, and just kind of
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: where we're at right now.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: This is a busy, busy, busy. Yeah, we having all
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: kinds all kinds of fun stuff coming up.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: That's why I pulled up my document here, like I
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: went through these and tapped key people and was like,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: is there anything that you want me to mention to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: my is there anything you don't want me to mention?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: And so this is what we came up with. So
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: we have the website. We just revamped our website and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: it's brand new and on that you can find like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: applications to become a member, so all the stuff that
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: we're researching, like, we're actively taking applications to like join forces.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: So we're trying to organize like an alliance between academics
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: and allt history people are all science people. So we're
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: trying to have like a coming together of everyone so
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: that we can all put the puzzle together. And you
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: can apply for any of those positions on our website
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: if you go in there and click become a member,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: and everyone's capable. You know, I know everyone doesn't have
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: the time. It doesn't take up all of your time,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: but you know, we're looking for like tour guys, if
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: you have a site in your area and you want
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: to like sign up to host tours there and teach
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: people about it. We're trying to get the knowledge out
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: to everyone in a way that's not affected by this
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: small group of assholes that want to hold up all
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: the history and science and tell us that you know,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: we don't get to think we're not qualified to think
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So we're trying to put together a group
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: of people that can look into all this stuff in
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: a serious capacity. And I think that it's long been needed.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: We're all just kind of trying to put our own
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: puzzles together. And yes, that's great for like our personal
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: being and our personal growth. But there's a bridge here
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: that needs to be made, and on a grander scale
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: than that, I think, so that we can kind of
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: take back our history and maybe get somewhere for a change.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: So on our website you can find the applications for
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: all of that. You can submit to like an article.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: We have a magazine called Pharaoh's Magazine. You can also
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: read a digital copy of that on our website. You
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: can submit an article to it. We have an application
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: process for that if anyone wants to submit their research papers.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: We love to read that stuff. We love to add
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: it to you know, our our ever growing tub of stuff,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: our top stuff, our tub of stuff, and our information
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: and our research that.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget the interdisciplinary research team where you could
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: apply to be on the inter interdisciplinary research team. And
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: also if you are someone who is an independent research
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: researcher who has a mind or have already written a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: paper and you don't know what to do with it
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: or how to get it pure reviewed. You can reach
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: out to us and we can help you with that.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, and we wanted to shout out to Gee, who
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: made our new website and he made it look so fantastic.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Gee is a founding board member. And then Jeffrey is
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: in charge of the magazine and he does a beautiful
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: job with them, and like he made our logos too,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: yoh yeah, Jeffrey made our logo for our podcast.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Gee's position I always like to say this. His position
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: in the institute is system architect, which I just love them.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: He's the system architect.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: He's designed the website and he takes.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Care of all of our it stuff. Yes, and then
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: what we're doing right now is we're finalizing the details
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: of like our admin positions. So all the people that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: are like we had, I know, people think it's just
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: the four of us, you know, me and Jacqueline and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Shaman and Ricardo, but there's actually a whole Like we're
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: a nonprofit organization, we have like a whole board and
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: board meetings and all this stuff. We're going over the
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: admin positions and finding out like how many people we're
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: gonna need to make this work, So like we would
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: have managers and then sub managers under them, and we're
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: gonna need a lot.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Of helping to be huge, We're gonna need a lot
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: of at Yeah. Yeah, So if you you think that
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: you don't have anything to contribute, I assure.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: You you actually do. I thought that too, me too. Yeah. So,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: but we are within the past week and I can't
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: say a lot about it, but we are. There are
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: floor plans being made, so floor plans for a physical location,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: so I can't say what it's for, but that is
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: in the works.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: So that's a little extra juicy tidbit.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: And I can only say that because someone Ricardo already
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: gave it away. Yeah, no one was supposed to save
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: in that and then Ricardo let it slip. So I
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: just want to throw him under the bus one time
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Nice. That is awesome.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: We got a lot that's going on.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: That's really all I have. We're looking for course creators
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: for our educational center. You can all of this. You
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: can fill out on our website if you go to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: become a member it'll allow out everything we've got going on,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: everything that's open. See what fits with you. You know, if
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: you're an animator and just you don't know what we need,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: go look at it.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Like Sarah and I do a podcast, and that's like
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: that's what everyone sees, and that's where they often hear
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: information of both the institute, Jason and Ricardo. They do
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: their podcast and so it's like Sarah said, it's not
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: just the four of us. There's a huge team of people,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: like a whole operational board, and there's a lot of stuff.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Most of the stuff that happens happens behind the podcast premiere, right.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: So like our.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Director of operations, Steve, like this man works like twenty
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: four hours a day. He is a top of Yeah,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: he doesn't stop. So there's always like there's a lot
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: of stuff that's gonna happen, and we have been had
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: to gatekeep a little bit because we can't let the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: cat out of the bag until it's ready, you know,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: we can't let the kittens out until they're ready to
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: go to new homes. But we're looking for anyone and everyone,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: like if you're into this, if you're an independent researcher
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: or you have a mind that you have something to contribute,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: and even if you think you don't, I guarantee you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: you visit the web site and I think you will
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: find that there is something. There's something there for everyone.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: And we're all about giving people the opportunity to contribute
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: in the way that they want to or feel is meaningful. Right,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: And because we're a nonprofit like that is very important
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: to us that you are able to do something that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: you feel not only comfortable doing, but that you'll feel
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: fulfilled doing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, So
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: we want to hub of alternative researchers and people who
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: support alternative theories, philosophy, like any idea outside of academia,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: because like I always say, just because someone has letters
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: after their name doesn't mean that they know any better
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: than someone who has been passionately researching something like you
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: go to school for like even if you went to
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: school and got your PhD, in some cases you're there
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: for twelve years. Well, you know what, I know a
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: ton of people who've been researching the things that they're
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: passionate about for twenty four years, right, and they ain't
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: got no PhD. And they also have no limitation in
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: the avenues that they can use to research. So they
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: didn't go to school and get told you're not allowed
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: to look into that because it doesn't you're not going
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: to get any grant funding talking like that, and you
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: can't say those words, and you can't bring that topic up,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: and you can't correlate these things. So we're looking for
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: people who are passionate about anything. What's your theory, what
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: is the thing you've been working on. We want all
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: those people. And like we have reiterated over and over
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: again in this episode, like it doesn't have to be
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: just about ancient civilizations. It doesn't have to be just
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: about one thing or another, because it's all correlated, you know, science, philosophy, spirituality, history,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: like all of these things are interconnected, and in order
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: for us to discover and embrace our human story, they
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: all have to be allowed to come back together again.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: So that's what we do at the Institute Culture, Heritage, History, Science.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: It's all part of our story, and that story belongs
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: to us. It doesn't belong to people who went to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred fifty thousand dollars into debt just to get
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: a piece of paper to say that they could be
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: the boss of that info. Those people are important too,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: because everyone's entitled to their opinion. But we want to
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: be like a home and a hub for people who
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: are outside of that very gatekeeped gate KEPTU.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: How do you say it?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking just for normal, everyday people right who
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: have passion and about their research topic.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: So coming back also, I wanted to mention real quick though,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: if you can't help us, we also may be able
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: to help you because we offer some services, like we
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: can pull research papers if you're looking for a specific paper,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: that's something we can find. And also old books on demand,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: so like I can see where this might come in
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: handy for like occult practices and maybe manuscripts and things
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: like that. If you need something, we can get those.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: He was showing me stuff he has a he does
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: so much shit that I was like, oh my god, dude.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can hunt down information that's elusive or difficult
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: to find. We can usually make that happen. Yeah, So
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: like that's another thing. Even if you can't help us,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: we're happy to help you. Doesn't have to be transactional
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: at all. We're here for the underdog because we are
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: the underdog, and there's just way less red tape, this way,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: and this has just been something that's been needed, I
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: feel like for a long time. So I think I
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: know others feel that way too.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot of people who were out
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: there that are like exhausted by this landscape of us
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: against them, you know what I mean. And it doesn't
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: need to be that way. Just walk over that hurdle
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: and you can hang out with people you know you can.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: There's a place for you to come and rest your head,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: is all we're saying, you know what I mean. It
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: don't give up on the things that you've been passionate
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: about because you're constantly getting shit on online or turned
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: away or doors closed because maybe you're just looking in
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the wrong places.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and no one's gonna call you a retard for
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: your theory. So that's how we don't get down like that.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Nothing good comes from that. That's just not constructive and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: it's just not helping anybody. So yeah, but if you're
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: getting ready to wrap it up, I wanted to close.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: We did a segment on our show for the first
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: year and we've kind of backed off of it now
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: because the list is getting too young, too long. Called
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: universal truth, And do you remember yours? Nick? You remember yours?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: What do you mean? Was that a question?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Ni?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: Universal?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Is that a question? No? No?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Like? Is that something you asked me in the past?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: And I've answered yea, yeah, yeah we did. And Nick's
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: universal truth was that the most important thing is to
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: have an experience with God. Because I remember everybody's universal truth,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: but I never got to say one. So I was
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: gonna close with a universal truth.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: If that's okay, you do it.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm here for this came to me the other day
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: and I just wrote it down and I feel like
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: it goes here. So know when you're dealing with an
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: asshole and that all bets are off because that is
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: the highest actionable position. That is an opportunity to be creative,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: and what you do next is your true character.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, preach universe. You better add that to the list. Girl,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I got it, I got it.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: I like that. So that was really good.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Actually, mm hmm. Live your life and if all else fails,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: you just send Dolly with the slipper throw a flip
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: flop at him. I'm gonna send Dolly over to fuck
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: you up with a slipper. I'm gonna tell Sarah. That's
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: what I say to people. I've said it to Ricardo, I've.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Said it to Steve.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna tell Sarah.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, said, I don't know why y'all think I'm
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: all hurt child. She's a beautiful soul. She's a beautiful soul.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: I will hurt child.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you both for coming on. That was a blast.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having us.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: We missed you.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that was great for sure. For sure.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: I wish maybe some other time when we can do it,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: like maybe later in the day I could get more
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: of the people along. Just unfortunately during the day it's
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: hard to kind of pull other people on the show
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: in the day. No, I get that. Yes, no, I
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: totally understand, so I totally get it. But yeah, no,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: that was a blast. It was really great catching up
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: with you girls. That was fun. Yeah, that was really
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: fun actually.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Too, because I hope you don't get mad because we
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: call you cousin Nicholas.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's all right, that's right. I'll let
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: you guys get away with calling me Nicholas.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: It's quite fun when you get a nickname.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're good. You're good. Do you guys
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: want to plug a you guys want to plug the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: show again. And then just everything else too, just real quick,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: even though you were talking about it, just let everybody know.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, you can find us everywhere that you
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: can find everyone else, right, Like, if you're out here,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: you know where to look obviously, YouTube, x Universe, Unveiled.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Sarah and I also have our personal accounts on x Sahara,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Cosmos and at Jacoline Small and you can find the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Institute all the regular places. We do our long form
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: every second Wednesday, we do an episode usually at seven pm.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: And we also do our Sweet Sunday News, which is
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: my favorite. We do that every Sunday live at one
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: o'clock up. Yeah, that's where you get the web taste, right, Yeah,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: that's pure unfiltered Sarah and Jacqueline.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Someone was asking what the website was. It is Institute
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: for Natural Philosophy dot org m H easy to Everything
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: we just talked about can be found there.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, nice, yeah, send me, just send me the
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: links and I'll throw it inside the inside the shows.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Perfect perfect surprise. Steve didn't put it in the chat.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Come on, Steve, you yeah, you know what I think.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Only mods or I can actually put links.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: In the Okay, yeah.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: Sorry about that A good unless I can change it.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: I'll look into that actually, but uh, thank you show.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: Is there anything else that you wanted to kind of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: plug or anything.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to shout out our other podcasts that
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: are I f n P backed podcasts, and that is
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: The Shaman and the Philosopher that is and Jason Huffman's podcast,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Our Brethren podcast. To check them out as well. You
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: can find them on our X page. We share them
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: all the time. We're all connected. If you find one
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: of us, you'll find all of us.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and the Shaman does this singular podcast
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: where he's on finding things within him without the Guys. Also, honestly,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: this is my favorite podcast. The Guys also host on
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Saturday's one called The Roundtable Chronicles. So specifically, if you
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: are into like hidden unheard of American history, this is
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: where you want to hang out because they have a fellow.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: His name is Vince Barrows. He's affiliated with the Institute.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: He yeah, he is a prolific researcher and he comes.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: He doesn't come with receipts.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: He comes with fucking.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: Posters like he is.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: There, he's ready with information pictures, slideshows. Yeah, he's a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: very prolific researcher.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: He's on the board now, yes he is.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: And and also Rick Rick is on the road right now.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: He's in his r V traveling around. Yeah, so they
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: and and they're all connected through the Lost America series,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: which you can find on Patreon, which is I think
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: it's twelve episodes of like Lost American History and it is.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: It's phenomenal if you're into anything like that.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: I have no idea that's what that show was. I've
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: seen it on Twitter, and.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lost America. It's uh information in that series. Like
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm there with like a pencil like writing down, like
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: because every single thing that they talk about, I'm like, god, damn,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: it's another side quest.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know. So yeah, we're busy. Busy. Everyone's
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: really busy.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: I have noticed that, especially with Ricardo and Shaman. Well,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: plus you guys have any extra thing on Sundays, a
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: lot of you seem to like really step it up
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: and be more active or maybe I'm just seeing it more.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Well, the Institute is getting ready to let all the
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: cats out of the bag, right, So yeah, we're really
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: all trying to put in as much time and effort
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: as we can to get in the word out there,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: reach as many people as we can.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: See you guys being a lot more active and showing
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: up in social media.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if anyone's interested, if you are a researcher,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: if you're interested in any of our research, let me
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: find it here. There's untia million notifications coming through my discord. Yeah,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: so you can find the Institute for Natural Philosophy on discord, yes,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: or reach out to any of us on social media
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: and we can onboard you into that. That's where everyone
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: hangs out. Maybe not all the time, but that's where
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of the independent research is getting posted, pictures, links,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: And Cardinal Steve says a live event is coming up soon,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: so that's where we will make our announcement. That's where
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: all the cats come out of the bag.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Still in this is still in its infancy, like we're
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: just starting to get lyft off, So like now is
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: the time to get involved with us. We need people,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: We need lots of people. There's power in numbers and
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: we're all stronger together. So if you're not doing anything.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: And I mean not not to not to put like
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: the emotional aspect into it, but like I can be
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: a crusty person, let me be the testament to tell
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: you that these are the finest people I have ever known.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: Just good people doing good work, honest hearts.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they're good people.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Yea.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: I've met some of them personally, and I've had some
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: of them on my show. Yeah, actually very genuine people.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a nonprofit, right, so until until we go
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: official and we start getting some of that funding, all
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: of this is just coming out with the love of
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: our hearts.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: So yeah, well, in my opinion, you can even see it,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: and the people that are doing the work, you can
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: just tell, like, again, you get Vince, You're not going
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: to be doing that unless you're obsessed in love with
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: the work you're doing, right, Yeah, Ricardo and Shaanan does.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: You could see there's something in their eyes when they're
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: talking about this ship that this is a passion.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: The other night I was watching the Round Table Chronicles
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: and Vince had his screen share up and he was
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: like scrolling down through his scribe and it was just
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: like like all these articles and folders and I was
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: just like, wow, I'd love to spend a day just
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, he's like me, Sarah. He collects and
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: hordes information in all these like little organized files. It's beautiful.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: I love it. We love to see it.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick, thank you so much for.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: Morsonll No, that was a blessed. Definitely have to get
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: on again sooner. Yeah. Yeah, bring you on in Shaman,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: so it instead of being in the chat, he could
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: just jump on with us.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see Shaman in the chat. He's been in there
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: the whole time. That's bro.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: That's broyeah.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a cool motherfucker.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: We don't have each other's back.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a blast with him at a at
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: that Wandering Wolf thing that we went to. I can't
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: I can never remember the name of that event. It's
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: so horrible. I'm like the worst promoter.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: I don't remember either.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: It was like something in search of Ancient Civilization or
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Keep calling him Michael Collins things.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: That's what I want to see, Michael Collins. That Wandering
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: Wolf event I went to an Arizona. Yeah, that was
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: a blast, man.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need a well, you will need an
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: invite to the discord. But if you want to find
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: us on social media, I'm at Jacqueline Small. If you
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: hook me up, send me a d M.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: If you have a problem finding them, you can even
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: hit me up and I'll send you there there there.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give you the link.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, definitely. But yeah, no, thanks for coming
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: on again. We'll have to do it again in the future.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: Everybody in the chat, thank you very much. Looked like
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: everybody was having a blast. Everybody seemed to love you ladies,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: so it looked like a good time at least. You know,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: I have fun regardless, appreciate it and thank you everybody
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: in the chat. Yeah. No, of course, of course, and
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: thank you everybody in the chat. That was again, it
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: was a blast. I love all the comments. I like
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: all the stuff being said, and that's why I go live.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: And until the next one, everybody be well. Lada.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Hi