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Is It Panic Time As The Phillies Start To Struggle? (PST Episode 612) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast Show, the longest
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  Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, twelve
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  Speaker 1: years strong. As we are commemorating our twelve year anniversary
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  Speaker 1: here at the PSD podcast show, I'm Jeff Warren. Here
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  Speaker 1: are my buddy Eric Leonard. Hey doing man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. We're on video.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's scared. We're on video. What do I do?
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  Speaker 1: What do I do?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Dead air?
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  Speaker 2: Huh When it first comes up, I'm like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's right. Oh yeah, yes, everybody can see me this time. Yea,
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  Speaker 2: it's not just a faceless voice exactly, exactly. We're still
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  Speaker 2: on audio.
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  Speaker 1: We still got our audio podcast Apple Podcasts, Spotify, all
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  Speaker 1: major podcasting platforms, and of course over at Philadelphia Sports
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  Speaker 1: Table dot com. That's where you can get all of
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  Speaker 1: our podcasts. We have them uploaded over there, and we
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  Speaker 1: got a really good show this week. But first, before
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  Speaker 1: we even get into the topics, Eric, how is practice tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Was practice? All right for you? I know it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of a late practice for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just had a first tournament, didn't do so hot,
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  Speaker 2: so installing a new half court three to two trap
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  Speaker 2: off our defense? All right, Okay, it's in a new
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  Speaker 2: flex offense. So only five kids out of eight came
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  Speaker 2: tonight because I got some sick kids. Yeah, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for some ree the less kids you get, the more
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  Speaker 2: they don't pay attention or listen. So that was interesting
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of suicides.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, right, yeah, overall.
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  Speaker 2: Good group though, It's just that's what you said. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I think my wife from it's easter break. I
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  Speaker 2: think spring break, like, they're all going to Panama City soon,
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  Speaker 2: and you know they want to.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, Yeah, they gotta go down to Miami, Miami.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Panama City ninety eight before I graduated college.
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  Speaker 2: Worst week in my life. Really. I'm a dive bar guy.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, Jeff, you and I have hung out
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  Speaker 2: more than one in our lifetime. And uh, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: just clubs and dudes with cameras trying to get girls
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  Speaker 2: to show you know what. Yeah, yeah, but this isn't
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  Speaker 2: for me. This is awful. I hate everybody. Everybody decided me.
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  Speaker 1: I went out to the University of Indiana once on
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  Speaker 1: spring break. Boo. Yeah, it was wild time. It was
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  Speaker 1: crazy and wacky.
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  Speaker 2: Did you shuck some corn?
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  Speaker 1: I know, I was hanging out with John Mellencamp. You know,
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  Speaker 1: pretty pink houses for you and me right right, yes, crazy, Well,
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  Speaker 1: got a great show, folks. It's gonna be fun to
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  Speaker 1: get into some Philly sports history. You're gonna like what
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  Speaker 1: we were auditioned out right from the start with this show.
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  Speaker 1: And then we're gonna get into Jailen Hurts. I know
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft is coming up, but we've got a
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  Speaker 1: very special podcast in our feed, a PSD special where
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  Speaker 1: we talked to Matt Waldman from the Rookie Scouting Portfolio,
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  Speaker 1: specifically about prospects coming out offensive prospects coming out in
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  Speaker 1: this draft. You're not gonna want to miss that. Check
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  Speaker 1: it out in the feed, But we want to get
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  Speaker 1: into Jailen Hurts. Jalen Hurts was just named one of
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  Speaker 1: Time Magazine's most one hundred Influential People of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty amazing, actually, so we're gonna dive into that storyline
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  Speaker 1: and what Jalen Hurts really just means to the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: and to the city, and of course being named one
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  Speaker 1: of the most one hundred influential people of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: he's certainly making his mark in this world and from there,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some sixers talk, a lot more
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  Speaker 1: sixers talk. As this season has now ended, we have
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  Speaker 1: more awards. We dove into some awards last week, but
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  Speaker 1: we've got more. We've got more this week end of
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  Speaker 1: season awards, and from there we are also going to
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  Speaker 1: get into this Philadelphia Phillies team. And that's where we're
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  Speaker 1: thrown down on the table this week, everybody, We've got
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  Speaker 1: Destiny Legardo from Philliesnation dot com. She's gonna be joining
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  Speaker 1: us to talk about how this team is looking after
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stumbling quite frankly, and came out of
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  Speaker 1: the gate strong, a lot of stumbles, a lot of challenges.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, from an offensive perspective, what should our level
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  Speaker 1: of concern be for this Phillies team, if any? At
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  Speaker 1: this point it's early in the baseball season. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get started with some Philly sports history here, Eric and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention a few different moments in the world
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  Speaker 1: of Philly sports history. And I don't know if anything
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  Speaker 1: will stick out to you in terms of in terms
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  Speaker 1: of anything really really notable. We can go back to
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  Speaker 1: April thirteenth, nineteen forty eight, where the Baltimore Bullets. They
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  Speaker 1: overcame a twenty one point halftime deficit to defeat the
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Warriors sixty six to sixty six to sixty three
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  Speaker 1: in Game two of the BAA Finals, evening the series
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  Speaker 1: at one to one. And then you have April thirteenth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, Yes, nineteen eighty seven, where future Philly
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  Speaker 1: and Souderton native Jamie Moyer, then with the Chicago Cubs,
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  Speaker 1: he held the Phillies hit list for eight innings in
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  Speaker 1: a five to two Cubs victory. April fifteenth, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and four, the Philadelphia Phillies secured their very first victor
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  Speaker 1: at victory at Citizens Bank Park by defeating the Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: red six to four thanks to a four run eighth inning.
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  Speaker 1: And then, finally, this is only a a little over
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  Speaker 1: a year old, but on April thirteen, twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: the Flyers honored former player Wayne Simmons upon his retirement.
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  Speaker 1: He signed a one day contract to retire as a
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  Speaker 1: Flyer and was celebrated at the Wells Fargo Center. God,
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  Speaker 1: we'd love to have Wayne Simmons back on this Flyers
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  Speaker 1: team in the future for sure. But the Jamie Moyer
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  Speaker 1: piece of history when he was on the Chicago Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of stood out to me. Eric, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: did any of these stand out to you at all?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the first one just to score of the game, yes,
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  Speaker 2: is hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Sixty six to sixty three.
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  Speaker 2: Like I saw au games this past weekend, the higher
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  Speaker 2: scores totally didn't style of basketball. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 2: watched the Grizzlies Warriors last night, I think my final
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  Speaker 2: score was like one twenty to one sixteen. Yea, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: imagine like Hoosier style set jump shots, you know, yes,
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  Speaker 2: well Steph Curry's forty feet behind the three point lan.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's just weird to think about how basketball's
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  Speaker 2: it evolved. Did you know the this out long Jamie
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  Speaker 2: Moore has been around. I think his first start for
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs was against Steve Carlton for the Phillies.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how long he was. He pitched and I
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  Speaker 2: think he retired and went like twenty my god, like
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  Speaker 2: like twenty twelve something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was early twenty twenty ten's yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean Steve Carlton started in the sixties. For guy's sake. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that. That was his first opponent and the Flyers thing.
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  Speaker 2: That was when I was still watching the Flyers a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I was like, yeah, Dwayne Simmons fan, I
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  Speaker 2: love I love the tough guy thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And and I think I was. I was probably at
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  Speaker 2: that game, the first Phillies win they beat the Reds. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think they started their series against the Reds when
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  Speaker 2: they open up the ballpark.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was Wow, you were there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure I had. I had. I had like partial
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  Speaker 2: season tickets, yeah, like half half the season, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure I was there. I didn't have much going on,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was married, but I didn't have kids. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: at a dog yes, you know, I had to walk
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  Speaker 2: before I went down to the subway go to the game.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm sure it was there. Had a couple of
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  Speaker 2: beers and had fun. And yeah, it's we're getting old though,
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  Speaker 2: like that we are twenty one years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I know, dude. And you're right about Jamie Moyer too.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, he retired in twenty twelve a twenty
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  Speaker 1: five year career. He last pitched for the Colorado Rockies. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, when we talked to Jamie Moyer, we
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  Speaker 1: had the opportunity, and honestly, it was an honor to
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  Speaker 1: talk to him at the Redding Hot Stovers banquet that
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  Speaker 1: the PSD podcast show attends every year and just hearing
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  Speaker 1: about his career, his stories, and I referenced it every
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  Speaker 1: now and again on this show. He is the staple,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, for a professional athlete that over so
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  Speaker 1: many years had to change and alter aspects of their
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  Speaker 1: game to remain relevant in the sport that they played professionally.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he is again that staple and that
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  Speaker 1: individual that people can look tough to say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady may have had to do it in the
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  Speaker 1: world of professional football, but really I think it's Jamie
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  Speaker 1: Moyer who is the staple for that to have such
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  Speaker 1: a long career and to be as relevant as he
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  Speaker 1: was in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 2: I've always likend him because I'm an NBA guy. To
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  Speaker 2: a Ray Allen started. It was just an he was
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  Speaker 2: an athletic phenom. You know, he came into the league
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  Speaker 2: as he was in college and you know throughout the years.
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  Speaker 2: When he finally made it to the Heat in like
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  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen twenty fourteen season, the year they won the
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  Speaker 2: second title, that they won, and he hit probably the
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  Speaker 2: greatest shot in the history of the NBA. But he
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  Speaker 2: kind of nestled into like a jump shot artist but
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  Speaker 2: made huge shots. And just like Jamie Moyer started as
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  Speaker 2: a normal pitcher and then he's like, I'm never gonna
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  Speaker 2: be able to throw nine eight miles an hour. That's
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  Speaker 2: just not me. Right by far, my favorite guy to
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  Speaker 2: talk to in person at the reading Hot Stovers events.
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  Speaker 2: He A close second was Greg Leuzinski, who was a little, little,
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  Speaker 2: little tilty told great stories though, and I just couldn't
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  Speaker 2: stop staring at the a glass of Scotch in his
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  Speaker 2: hand and the giganic fingers.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And I say that to say this because like he
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  Speaker 2: looked like a baseball player I couldn't even relate to.
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  Speaker 2: We talked to Jamie Moore and I'm like, this guy
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  Speaker 2: he might have be in a cubicle next to me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: exactly twenty some years and then Major League baxaically, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he was super cool.
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  Speaker 1: Y yep. Absolutely, all right, Well that's gonna do it
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  Speaker 1: for this week in Philly sports history. Now we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: move on to a new news that came out this
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  Speaker 1: week in the world of Eagles Nation, and we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk for a moment about Jalen Hurts. As I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned at the top, he's named one of Time Magazine's
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  Speaker 1: most one hundred Influential People of twenty twenty five. Folks,
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  Speaker 1: as we know, this is a quarterback who was drafted
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  Speaker 1: in the second round of the twenty twenty NFL Draft
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  Speaker 1: while the Eagles already had their franchise quarterback of the
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  Speaker 1: future who later fizzled out completely. Where the Eagles had
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: to trade their franchise quarterback. Jalen Hurts comes in. We
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  Speaker 1: don't really know what to expect. A lot of folks saying,
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  Speaker 1: thank goodness, they drafted this quarterback in the second round.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what he Let's see what he's all about.
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  Speaker 1: Just the level of work, the level of perseverance that
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  Speaker 1: this gentleman has had over the years. Thank goodness for
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  Speaker 1: that pick, because without hesitation at all, Jalen Hurts picked
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  Speaker 1: up that leadership mantle for the Philadelphia Eagles and really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for an entire city, and now he's a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, one of Time's most one hundred Influential
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  Speaker 1: People of twenty twenty five. Eric I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: bring this up, you know, because it's not too often
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  Speaker 1: that we can say in the world of Philly sports
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  Speaker 1: that we have had such a relevant team year after
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  Speaker 1: year after year. The Eagles won the Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 1: beat the New England Patriots, you know, kind of at
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the height of their dynasty, and that
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  Speaker 1: dynasty started dying off after the Eagles beat them with
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  Speaker 1: the Nick Foles at the quarter position, and then we
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  Speaker 1: have this tumultuous time with the quarterback position where Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts is Then then the guy to just pick everything up,
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  Speaker 1: goes to a Super Bowl, loses to the Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: and then it meets them just a couple of years later,
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  Speaker 1: beats the Kansas City Chiefs again. An incredible career and like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just as an Eagles fan and somebody loves this
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  Speaker 1: team so much, just so grateful that we have this
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  Speaker 1: guy and for him to be noticed as one of
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  Speaker 1: the most influential people of twenty twenty five of this year,
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  Speaker 1: it really says something about again I use that word perseverance,
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  Speaker 1: that he has the type of individual I think that
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  Speaker 1: he really is. I don't know, I was just I
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  Speaker 1: don't get into the Hoki oh I feel so proud
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  Speaker 1: of my city and my team and stuff. I always
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  Speaker 1: happy when they win. I'm always happy when they're in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, doesn't matter what team it is. But I
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  Speaker 1: genuinely felt some sort of pride for some reason hearing
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  Speaker 1: about this story reading about it this past week. Here
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  Speaker 1: the fact that this guy who was able to get
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  Speaker 1: give this team another championship, and with his other teammates
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  Speaker 1: as well, it was It's just such a great story,
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  Speaker 1: and it leads me to believe that this Philadelphia Eagles
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  Speaker 1: team is going to be extremely relevant in the future
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  Speaker 1: because of who this guy is as a person. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop onontificating. I don't know what are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts when you heard this news, Buddy.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't shocked, because, you know, it's a great story.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like, he's won a super Bowl, he's been
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  Speaker 2: to two, he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars at
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  Speaker 2: this point. He wasn't a seventh round pick. He was
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  Speaker 2: a second round pick, you know. But honestly, it's an
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  Speaker 2: underdog story.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he was benched in the twenty eighteen National Championship.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been a death knell for some quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: that were kind of borderlined first, second, third rounders. The
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  Speaker 2: Eagles made that move, and I remember we watched it.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was that was the COVID one, right,
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  Speaker 2: We all watched it kind of together on FaceTime or
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  Speaker 2: whatever it was on zoom and all of us were
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  Speaker 2: just like, hmm, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Just freaking signed Carson Wentz. Why are they taking a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in the second round. Yeah, And that was before it.
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  Speaker 2: Turned in like this we're a quarterback factory whatever, right,
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  Speaker 2: but like thank god they did, and uh, it's it
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  Speaker 2: really is an underdog story because like, who's the last
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  Speaker 2: non first round quarterback to win a Super Bowl in
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  Speaker 2: the past however many years? Is it Nick Foles?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: If you think about it, it's I mean, Matt Stafford, Mahomes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, guys have made it to the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: weren't weren't first rounders, but like, nobody's won it. He's
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  Speaker 2: one of He's one of the first ones. He's also
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  Speaker 2: just on a on a on a on a local level.
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  Speaker 2: He's finally shed that entire narrative. Like even this past
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  Speaker 2: season a little bit, we were having conversations here and
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: there about like is he the guy games. He just look,
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  Speaker 2: it just doesn't look like he has it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and that is officially done. Like we can never have
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  Speaker 2: that conversation again. Brought a trophy home, And like I
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: talked a ton about the Eagles kicking the Chiefs ass defensively,
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  Speaker 2: Uh so did he He kicked their ass offensively. I
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  Speaker 2: mean he made some perfect throws. The dagger to the
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  Speaker 2: heart in the beginning of the third quarter, end of
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  Speaker 2: the entire game, they were done, and it was his
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  Speaker 2: pass and great catch, but you know, great catch, but
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: perfect pass. And like he's he's he's that guy. Now
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: he's he's he's right, Like he's gone past the McNabb
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  Speaker 2: conversation was like he's he's great, but just couldn't do
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  Speaker 2: it right right, and and and in subsequent quarterbacks, like
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  Speaker 2: even even Carson Wentz was probably gonna wind up being
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  Speaker 2: that guy, even though his team went to the Super Bowl,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: he didn't win it. So it's this is he's I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you see the best quarterback we've ever had.
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  Speaker 1: I would say yes, Yeah, I would absolutely say yes
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  Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, and he's not. Look, I think
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  Speaker 1: the point too here and you look at the list
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  Speaker 1: of one hundred most influential people or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: And you know athletes who have been on it in
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  Speaker 1: the past, like you know, Simone Biles has been on it.
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  Speaker 1: I think Derek Jeter may have been on it or
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  Speaker 1: so I could be mistaken about that, but like, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: he's not a douche. You know, you look at some
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  Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL over the years, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, I mean Tom Brady as well. There's some
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  Speaker 1: real douchey guys out there. You know. Jalen Hurts is
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: a very grounded individual, and that moniker of douche it's
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  Speaker 1: just that's not him at all. And it's it's so
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  Speaker 1: nice knowing that we're going to be going into future
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  Speaker 1: seasons with this type of guy. Yes, Ken, things change,
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  Speaker 1: Can attitudes change, Can folks change, you know as they're
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  Speaker 1: moving along with their career. Absolutely, people can alter themselves
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  Speaker 1: here and there in various ways. But I just don't
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  Speaker 1: see it happening with Jalen Hurts, Like he is the
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  Speaker 1: real deal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had heard prior to the Super Bowl victory,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: prior to the season he could be a little preachy
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  Speaker 2: at times in like in interviews and press conferences, But
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  Speaker 2: if you win a super Bowl, you can preach as
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  Speaker 2: much as you want to because he's real. It's not
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  Speaker 2: fake preaching like Russell Wilson is a fake preachy guy,
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  Speaker 2: like he got famous, he got the money, got the
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  Speaker 2: famous girlfriend, and after he stopped winning, that preachiness like
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  Speaker 2: rubs everyone in the wrong way, including his teammates. That's
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  Speaker 2: why he's on the freaking Giants now and probably the
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: last stop in the NFL. Can't see that happening with
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: this guy, who's far more talented than Russell Wilson ever was,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, And because he can do it with
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: his legs too, and has the Super Bowl ring, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: there's a good damn chance he's going to get one
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: or two more. I mean, if you look at the
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: NFL landscape, we're still young. He's one of the best
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league, top three, I would say, And
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: he just shoved it up Pat Mahomes asses. Pat Mahomes
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: as my national TV So I got ye. If I
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: had to make a bet, if I had to make
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: a wager that he's gonna win another one, I would
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: absolutely take ring number two. At some point, I.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Think it could happen for sure, absolutely deserves also to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: be on Times one hundred Most Influential Individuals of twenty
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: twenty five. So that's going to do it for us
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: here during our first segment, we are getting ready to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: take a break here, but make sure you are following
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• 19:02
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• 19:04
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• 19:07
  Speaker 1: a ton a ton of Sixers talk and Phillies talk.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Stick with us. We will be back in just a bit.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back. It is good to be
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: talking about the end of this sixer season. Finally, Eric,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: good to be talking about it. We had some awards
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and trophies last week that we were given out, and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: this week, folks, we're gonna be given out more awards
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and trophies as the season has ended for this Philadelphia
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: seventy six ers team. Eric, I know, I think you
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: have more than I do, more trophies. I have three
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: trophies that I'm gonna be giving out. I know you've
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: got a few more, So why don't you? Why don't
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: we get started on the end of the season awards
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and trophies here for this just absolutely dog crap of
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: a season here.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, horrible, And I thought about it right now. My
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: awards these are so much more fun when the team
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: sucks us. They're good like, yes, the you scored a
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: lot points award, Yes, it cares.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've got some hokey ones. I've got some hokey
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: ones coming. I'm just letting everybody know, letting you know
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, mine are all bad. And some of
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the references I'll probably have to explain nice okay, sounds good. Yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: because we you know, we are older and maybe they're
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: older references. Maybe I don't know. And we've got summer older,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: some are personal are okay, yeah, yeah, all right, we'll
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: get us started here, buddy, Let's let's do our first
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: sixers trophy here. Who are we going to be given
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: this one to.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: The first one is the PIP Award that stands for
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a performance improvement plan if you've ever been bad at
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: work and you need to be put on a PIP.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: This goes up to Nick Nurse. Ah, you were really
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: good last season as far as I could tell. Yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and even though the season fell apart, even before I
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: was falling apart, I was not getting a good sense
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that you're a good coach anymore.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So when when Daryl Morey announced that he was coming
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: back for sure, but there'd have to be some changes,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, he was on a pick. Now
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: he's one. He's got one season. They make this thing work.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: If everyone comes back healthy and they keep their pick,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and he can't make it work, he's gonna have to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to walk. So yeah, he's got one shot.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: He's done.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think he's gonna end up sticking around, honestly,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: because I don't think you can take what this season
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: was and yes, even though there was a lot of
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: questionable coaching type of decisions he would make here and there,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: there was also a lot of experimentation with some of
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the younger guys that we saw, especially towards the latter
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: part of the year and basically since well basically since February,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you know it. We just saw a lot of experimentation,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of line up issues. Part of me felt
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: bad for the guy being put in that situation. It's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: tough to feel bad for somebody who's an NBA coach.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You know, there's only there's only so many in this world,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and and make it all all that money, but when
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you are dealt with this team was dealt this year,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it's really tough to be like, oh, you're the worst
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: coach in the world. I don't know, that's how I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: see him.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I felt bad from near the end of the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: year because it's like, what do you want me to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: do at this point?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, just just lose, don't don't screw this. Right,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But when when there was a glimmer of hope when
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: they were like five hundred, like fifteen and fifteen, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Maxi was playing well and Paul George was playing okay,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and b was like kind of filling in in spots. Yeah,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's like you were you were losing to the Bulls
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and the Kings. Yeah, and it was like and you
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: were losing the team when you still kind of had
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: a chance, Like yeah, that's where I was like, all right,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: embid running this team and Nick Nurse has just lost
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: all control. Right, that's the one aspect of the year.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe you shouldn't come back next year. That's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: why he's on a pit jet one year to make
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: this work.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: There you go, okay, sounds good. I like that a lot.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: What's your next Want you do another one? And then
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'll do I'll do one of the trophies. Okay, here's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the next trophy here that we're gonna be audition out.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Who's this going to? Eric?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: This is the George Costanza. It's not you, it's me, Award.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I've asked Joel and Beat out to lunch because I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: have to break up with him. It's been such a tough,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: tumultuous road with this guy and I just finally have
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: to do it. And I dropped him the line it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: not you, it's me, and he turns it George castansand goes,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm the inventor. If it's not you, it's not you,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: it's me. Yes, Oh it's me, buddy. I'm the one
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that fucked this whole season. They gave me the extension.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I went to the Olympics regardless. I wasn't healthy. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: came in out of shape like I do every fucking year.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to swear a little bit because I'm sick
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: of this guy right now. He just had his eighth
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: knee surgery or some shit, and I want to break
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: up with you so bad. But it is you, Joel.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: It's not me, it's you, right, This is it, Like
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: there's no more pointing fingers, no more to blame. You're
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the only guy left from your your call himself the process, right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: that's your nickname. Was no one else here, You're the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: only one. So this dumpster fire is on your shoulders. Eric.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Last week, after we recorded, and I then talked to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Sean Bernard from Fox Sports Phillies the Gambler, I said,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it's astonishing where Joel Embiid was just two years ago
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the MVP of the league, and the year prior to that,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: he was the perennial runner up, and where we are
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: now just two years later. It is an astonishing fall
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: from Grace and I and we don't know who we're
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: gonna get next year. I have a feeling, I mean,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: we're never gonna get two years ago Joel Embiid again,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen. And I think if you're a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Sixers fan, you're a basketball fan, you understand that. However,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like he's still going to be, I think, a very
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: good NBA player, But it's still your award here is perfect.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: It still doesn't mean that he hasn't screwed things up here.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: In these past two years. There have been major screw ups.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I love the it's not you, it's me thing. I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: absolutely love it. I think it's I think it's great.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Well you just wanted to take some blame here and there, Yeah,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: he just never has. Yeah, Like it just drives you crazy.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, very good? All right. So I am
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: going to get into mine here, my hokey awards, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: my first one is this award is going to be
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: going to the guy who is most likely to be
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: mistaken for a ghost, and this is going to be
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Paul George of Coat he had sixteen He averaged sixteen
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: point two points per game in twenty seven games I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: believe it was twenty seven games this season, and then
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: completely vanished from the lineup. He was a ghost. He
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: was a ghost. He was Casper. He was absolutely a
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: non factor this season. And and he is getting and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it up on the screen for those
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: watching on video. He is getting this trophy from me
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: right now. Again, the most likely seventy six are to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: be mistaken for a ghost this season. That's what I have.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: That's my hokey award.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: As the technology gets better, can we have a ghost
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: like fly past the trophy?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I really wish I had time today to make that up.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't eat my dinner tonight, told like nine to fifteen.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Same are So Can I just give out my Paul
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: George Award? Now?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Do it?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Which one is it? Yeah? Go ahead, It's the.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Deep Throat Award to Paul George. Who are you? Who?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Where are you from? Where have you come from? Where
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: are you going? Yes, no one knows who you are anymore.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You were phenomenal with the Clippers for the previous two seasons.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Really great. Three years ago in the playoffs. I don't
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: know what the fuck happened to that guy. I never,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I never, I never. I never thought he was like
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a problem in the locker room, yeah, or in press conferences.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: He always seem like a stand up dude.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: He enjoys podcasting. I enjoy it too, you know, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: understand I do too.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But I also have a job and have you know
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: kids that to take care of all, you know, that
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, life stuff. Yeah, my job, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I get paid. Yeah. It's again, I don't know who
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you are. If he comes in, he might come out
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: next year and everyone's healthy and he's just killing it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: He had a year off to rest and he might
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: be awesome. But right now, I don't know who you are.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Look, I am absolutely with you on this,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and I know it's gonna sound like I'm making excuses
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for the guy. But when you're getting injections, a number
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of injections continuously into your body over the course of
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: so many months of a season of doing professional sports,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: oh man, you know there's something one definitely wrong there.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: But it lends itself, of course to this award, the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: deep throat award that you just said. You know who
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: are you Where are you going? Like, what's what's happening here?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I love it?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: That's a great award for sure. All Right, why don't
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you do another one? Because I know you got a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you got a few more. I've got two more. Why
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: don't you do another one here?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: All right? This one's a little obscure if you know
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the movie High Fidelity Okay came out in two thousand
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: John Cusic Yep, the Rob Gordon Award. Oh character, yes,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: and that goes out to Jimmy Butler. Oh, I know
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: he's on the sixers when I watched him annihilate the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Grizzly Grizzlies last night and helped the Warriors make it
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: to the seventh the seventh hole in the playoffs out
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in the West. Yep. And you know there's there's there's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a fifteen minute part in that movie where Rob he
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: breaks up with his girlfriend or she breaks up with him,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and he goes to past girlfriends and tries to figure
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: out why did you break up with me?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with me?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And I want to go to Jimmy Butler and just
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: be like, what what happened back? Why?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Why did you? Why did you leave? Like, what what
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: was the reaon come back to our city? Come back please?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Like even at thirty four years old last night, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: he's making too much money for what he does. But
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, this guy has a set of balls
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: on him. And he scored thirty points in a huge
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: game and he not just that, he made like twelve
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: free throws and he had ten assists. I was just like,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: this is the exact guy they needed all these years. Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and they picked they they picked Ben Simmons over him, yep,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to buy his hairs over him, and he was the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: guy and I just want to I just want to
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: take him a siege. Jimmy, I'm so sorry, Like what happened?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Tell me? I need to know because I need to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: be better as a person going forward, and you're the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: only can help me.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: It's not just from an on the court perspective either,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Like he was so good in the locker room. Just
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: his energy that he had that's been missing so so
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: much from this team.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's a dick. They needed a dick all these years
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to take and be de side when he was being
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: yes superstar and be like hey, asshole, I want to
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: win a ring. You're my ticket.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: That that Simmons, the Australian kid. Fuck him, he ain't it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: He would have been that guy to draw that line
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: in the sand. And we just we just I still
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: want to know what happened, Jimmy.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I like it a lot. I like that award. All right.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: My next award here, this trophy, folks, here is going
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to be going out to the Sixers player who is
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: most likely to be mistaken as a VET. Award. That
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that's what this award is and that and that's going
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to go to one Jared McCain, a rookie who before
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: his injury was averaging fifteen point three points per game,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: forty six percent field goal percentage. There again, the Sixers
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: player most likely to be mistaken as a VET. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: cannot wait to see. And this is where this is positive.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: This is actually a positive award here. I can't wait
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to see what he's gonna do next year, how he's
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: gonna fit in this team, of course, what the team
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: is going to look like, and if everybody is able
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to stay healthy, Jared McCain is going to be a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: key piece I think moving forward, and if he has
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: any semblance of of of common sense and in wanting
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to develop and learn the game. I hope he has
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a great relationship with Tyrese Maxey during the off season.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: They're talking a lot, and Tyree's can really be that
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: foundation for him moving forward because how many how many
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: years were we saying, oh my gosh, Maxy's still developing,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: He's still developing. We never saw this coming with I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: see some Jared McCain attributes in terms of, you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: if he's looking at a mirror, Tyrese Maxey could be
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: right there as well. So I'm that that's my award
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that I'm given out to Jared McCain again, Sixers player
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: most likely to be mistaken as a VET because he
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: really was playing like it a lot this season.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: When he was on the court, he looked great. And
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I'll just go to my next award here quick, because
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: he's part of it. This is in honor of one
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: of the mothers of the show. Okay, all right, this
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: is the Paula Hunsicker Award.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, Paula Hunt Len's mom. An amazing, wonderful lady.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, the best part of Len. Yes far no, no,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: no disrespect to Lens Senior, but she is by far.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: She is the number one all time of come into
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: my house, greeting you with open arms and love and food.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I love you, have you been kisses on the cheek exactly?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: The greatest greeter, the greatest welcomer I've ever I've ever
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: experienced my life as someone's home. This goes out to
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Tyres Maxi, Jeed McCain, and the fifth pick of the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: draft this year, which we're going to get by the way, Yes,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: welcome back boys, come on in what a tumultuous, ugly
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: crap season where we finished this season with the wh
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Award winner Colin Castleton from last week, not to mention
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: some other guys that might come in. I might give
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: awards to you to here a little later. But like
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I want players, I want positivity. We have to get
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: out of whatever this season turned into. Yeah, ugly breakups
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: with Joel Embiid. Paul George is a mystery. I don't
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: know who he is. Jimmy Butler's winning games. We need
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you three to come back and and just live the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: things up so well with open arms, whatever food you want,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: if you want me to kisch on the cheek too,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: like what we're drinking. Need Yeah, come on in, come
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: back please.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love the Paula Hunsicker Award. I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: mean I remember the first time, back when we were
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: in college. I walk in Len's house and I was
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: staying over for a night. We're going to be hanging
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: out in Norristown in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. And I walk
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: in and just a big hug, a big hug from
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: paul Huntsicker. I'd never met her before. I was like,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do I know you from someplace? You're
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: just like you said, welcoming with open arms, and uh,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: we need that. We need that from the Sixers team desperately, man, desperately. Yep,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you want to do your next award? Yeah, I can
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: do my last one if you want. So my last one.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: This one's really hokey. This one's really hokey. It's the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: most like the award for the guy most likely to
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: be a Dad in the Locker Room Award, and that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: going to Gershan Yabuselli. Why because he's steady, he's calm,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and he's slightly disappointed, like at the end of the day.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: So that the most Likely to be a Dad in
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the Locker Room Award goes to Gershon Yabaselli.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, well I have two more awards. One of them
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: is for him. I was going to give him the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Award for a decent Frenchman and that was in honor
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: of Len. For years. You know, you would see here
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: a French name and Len if you're watching TV, always going.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: To this day, he'll still do that's all they do.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Hell of a player.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what financially they're gonna do.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, bring him back, but he's he's gonna
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: he's gonna command some money on the market. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I mean if you go big at your fifth pick,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: if they keep the pick, then maybe he walks and
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: now suck. But like, yeah, I hope they can bring
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: him back.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, very good. Well what's what's your life?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You have one more?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: One more? Okay, give us a shot here right here
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: we go. Okay, and this is this is Philadelphia related.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get this trophy out here, let's get it
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: going here, here we go.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is the Billy Ray Valentine Award.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: It was still a little muffled. It was a little muffled.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I tried, man, Okay, next time.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Well, well next time, Well, next time we'll actually get
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the MP three to actually be able to play it here.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Oh man, is that better? That was a little bit better.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: That was a little bit better. I mean, I can,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I can do this. Hold on, I'm just kidding. Car
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: crash beforehand. Have technology at our hands now. No, that
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: is the BILLI Array Valentine Get the fuck out award.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's Eddie Murphy's character from Trading Places, which took
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: place in Philadelphia. And that goes out to five five
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: six Ers, Kyle Lowry, Eric Gordon, oh, Jeff Dalton, Jared Butler,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hood, Schaffino, get the fuck out. You don't need you.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: You did what you had to do to get us
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to possibly hopefully get the fifth pick. Your service has
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: been fulfilled. Don't let the door hitch in the ass,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: all five of I'm sure there's more.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: If I don't see Kyle Lowry again in a Sixers uniform.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my, he gave us nothing this year.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Zero.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I wanted to put Monnie Walker on here, but he's
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: a reading boy. I hope they bring him back for
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a cheap deal. But those five in particular, get the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: fuck out.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But I mean that they, like you said, they helped
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: us get the possibly the fifth pick at this point.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: You know who knows we I would be looking at
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the fourth pick.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great, you get some free tickets next year. Yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I'm watch a good team.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Great awards here, Eric, God, I loved him. That was
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a fun segment. But folks, we still want to talk
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: about this Sixers team just a little bit here, quick
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: discussion about how bad are the six I'm being serious
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: when I asked this, Like, how bad are the Sixers
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: going to get screwed by Adam Silver in the front
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: office leading up to the NBA Draft? We know that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the NBA front offices, Eric, have been investigating the seventy
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: six Ers for the tanking crap and nonsense, And I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: just I don't know what's going to happen, but I
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: have a feeling Adam Silver is going to try something
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to screw this team and front office over so bad
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft because of the amazing
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: tank job that they did. And maybe I'm just being
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: conspiratorial about it right now. Maybe I should get a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: tinfoil hat and put it on here. I'm gonna need
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: to get one of those. I'm gonna need to get
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: one because now we have the visual, I'm gonna need
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to get a tin foil hat. So I'm concerned, man,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I really am concerned that the NBA is really going
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to try to screw the Sixers in terms of the draft.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: If I didn't have amazing hair, I join you. That's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: what people are tuning in for.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, You're olive skin, blue eyes and amazing hair. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, if, okay, if you want to investigate us
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: for tanking, Who's who's who's on the trail who's the
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: pink panther on the trail of our Clouseau on the
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: trail of the Wizard right or the Hornets for the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: past ten fucking years? And man, come on, like Utah
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: hasn't tried to win in like five seasons now, it's ridiculous.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, if if I'll go the opposite way with
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the tin hat thing, like I think to keep the
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: like the six Ers narrative is like messed up as
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: it is. They're also one of the biggest markets in basketball. Yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: like maybe you push them up to like one, two
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: or three and give them a like a top player
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that's actually yeah, I don't know. I don't know, because like, okay,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: you want your top three players going to Charlotte, Utah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and Washington.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: That sounds fun. Yeah, you know, I can see Cooper
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Flag play a primetime game in like three years if exactly.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: That like that'll be good for the markets, you know.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: And then the fourth team is the Pelicans. Yeah, that's
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: they're one of the worst markets in basketball, and the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Sixers number five, and they're like the one of the
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: top four or five markets and basketball. I don't think
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a screw job if if anything, if
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: they really want to like mess with the Sixers because
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: of Darryl for for whatever reason and his like controversies
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: with China and that kind of stuff, then you would give, okay,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: see the seventh pick and the Sixers get screwed completely.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: And this whole season was like worse than a dumpster fire.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: It's a it's just a beached whale filled with shit.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: It explodes, it's just it's just got on my then
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: it catches fire, like like I can't get word that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: That's the worst case scenario.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And then we're waiting twenty years for a possible championship,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: if that ever comes in our lifetime again.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: You know twenty My god, it's been thirty two, right,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, I mean more maybe.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I have another two I don't know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: if I have another forty two years in me, you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: don't exactly. I don't know. If I have two years
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in me, I'll be ninety.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my son, VINEO have to like, you'll stuff me
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: and I'll take me out of the parade. It'll just
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: be like a.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Just a weekend at Bernie's, my.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Poor son and his friend Mason, my dead corp, dragging
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: me down street, Yeah, down road street.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm just hoping just just keep the five. This
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: is a really high end draft. Yeah, there's like five
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: or six really damn good ballplayers. If they can just
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: get a top five pick, whoever they take is gonna
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: help next year.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right, very good. That's gonna do it
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: for our sixers. Talk here this week, before we get
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to what we were thrown down on the table, We've
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: got a great interview with Destiny Legardo from Phillies Nation
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: dot Com. We wanted to talk about this Phillies team because, gosh, Eric,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: they started the season strong man. They came out hot,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: they won their first three series. We were talking about
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: them just last week, how they are able to contend
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: with a team like the Dodgers, and now all of
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: a sudden, holy crap, within the past week, this Phillies
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: team is having so much trouble from an offensive perspective
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: at this point with runners in scoring position, I think
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: they're like batting around one ninety nine, one ninety seven
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: somewhere around there. It's pathetic what's happening. Brandon marsh is
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: having major issues. Alec Bahoma is having major issue. Pretty sure,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be getting into that with Destiny Legardo in
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: just a bit too. But I mean, I'm talking about
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: as much as I love them, Harper and Turner, these
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: guys really need to start stepping up big time. And
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: you know, these huge contracts. You know, it's I feel
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: like it's an albatross from a storyline perspective. You know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: they are making hundreds of millions of dollars with this
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: organization over the course of so many years. And we
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: always go to that, We always say, you know what,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: they got these big contracts, so they should be doing it. Yes,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: it's the game of baseball. There are ups and downs.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: There are guys who go through various type of streaks
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: during the course of a season, but these are veteran
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: guys who've been playing baseball now for a long time.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: And what we are seeing, and again I'm gonna mention
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: it to Destiny too, is like, I just feel like
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: we're at towards the end of the twenty twenty four season.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: You know that we're seeing the same type of stuff.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: We're seeing the same type of garbage. They're chasing garbage,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they're just trying. They're in their heads so much, trying
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: too hard that they're not playing the game of baseball
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: in an intelligent way. Quite frankly, it's been really enraging
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to see where this team has gone within a week.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: A week, man, it's it's pretty enraging.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Well, the good thing about baseball is, yeah, like last
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: week we were we're kissing their asses, and this week
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, they look like shit. Yeah, it can
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: turn around next week. But some of the some of
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the real fears that you have, you know, the your
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: top three ops guys right now are schwarber sosen Castianos,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: like and we know how up and down Schwarburn Castianos
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: can be like it is they are, They are not
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: steady whatsoever. Harper's Harper's kind of leveling. He's kind of
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: you know, he's bat in two seventy eight, seventy three ops.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: But like Stott's been hot lately. But where where you're
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: really scared is your younger guys like Alec Baum is
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: just having a ridiculously bad starting season. Cratered that this
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: should be where he starts to take the mantle a
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: little bit from the older guys, not completely, but like
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: he should be like right there with them. We talked
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: about Brandon marsh Earley this year, like is he going
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: to secure the center field spot? It's gonna get a
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: big contract.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I was so high on him too when we were
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: doing our Philly season preview, Buddy, I was like, I
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: was really high on him, Like, yeah, let him be
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the everyday center field or whoa boy.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Listen, the Mendoza line, if you're a baseball historian, is
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: two hundred. He's batting ninety five.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's whatever.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: The one hundred line is. He's belowed that right, So
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: that doesn't get much worse than that, and you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and you can't expect much from from Max Kepler and
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: even even real Muto offensively just because you know, you
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: brought Kepler in as kind of a small gamble. And
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: if he's bad, he's doing what exactly you'd expect me
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: to do, I think, Yeah, and real Muto's gonna get hurt.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Trey Turner is just the man. He's slowly becoming that
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: top in top twenty turn into punk punch bowl, big,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: big time Philly athlete. You're like, yeah, how much money
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: we give this guy? Yeah, he's batting two twenty two. Yeah, Like,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: what the hell we like he is? Yeah? If you
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: look at the I don't always like love to look
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: at the war, you know, stat Yeah, but I mean
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: they got they got one guy that's over one on offense.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Do they really? I actually haven't looked at the Winds
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: above replacements my Schwarber, and that's it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Everyone else is like, yeah, you're pretty average. Yeah, wow,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Marsh you're actually worse than average pitching wise. It's it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: it's not like Wheelers had some shaky starts.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Raise over four.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Noah's almost at seven. Yeah, thank god for Lozardo and Sanchez,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: they've pitched pretty well, be really really nice when they
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: get God helped me out and Paynter well, no, I
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: mean when he if he comes up, yeah Suarez when
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: yeah back?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it should be soon.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: And and kind of in their defense, I did go
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: back and look at some of the pitching matchups or
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: some of the pitchers they faced against the Cardinals and
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the Giants, and we just kind of we just kind
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of ran up against their best pitchers, like Robbie Ray
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: tonight kicked the shit out of them. Absolutely every Cardinals
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: pitcher had a pretty good outing against them. I forget
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: who pitched the Game one against the Giants, but I
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: mean Justin Burliander pitched last night against the Phillies. Yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is it two thousand and set again? I
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: know he's still in the league, I'll be honest with you,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: but but like they've had some tough pitching matchups, but
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: that doesn't excuse like, you know, having a ninety five
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: batting average exactly.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's look, I'm not
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: panicking at all at this point. Like I'm not. There's
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: no panic because there's still a lot of season left.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: It's like, get the crap out right now, get the
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: garbage baseball play out now, so that comes summertime, you know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: this team is hopefully to be clicking on all cylinders.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: So that being said, Buddy, I'm gonna let you go
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna bring Destiny Legardo on from Phillies
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Nation dot com. You got any final thoughts man before
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: we head out?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I'm tired, you t.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I'm tired too. All right, Well, why don't we go
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to a break here and when we come back, we're
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be hanging out with Destiny Legardo. Let's take that
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: break right now and now on the table, joining us
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: this week, coming to us from Phillies Nation dot com.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: She and her colleagues over there do a fantastic job
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: of reporting on this Philadelphia Phillies team, and we got
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: a lot to get into when it comes to the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies. Eric and I were just talking about this
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: team and the lack of offense. We're gonna dive into
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: it even more with our guests. Again from Philliesnation dot com.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: She runs the ship over there, Miss Destiny Legardo. Destiny,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Jeff, Yes, I do run the
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: ship now.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a fun time in the world of Phillies Nation.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Here I say a fun time because there's always ups
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and downs when it comes to this team. I mean,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: it's amazing what we've seen thus far. I think with
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: this Phillies team, because they come out of the gate
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: really strong to start the season, we are all on
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: a high and now they are just in a tough
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: spot not being able to really score runs. In fact,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I think they're batting like one ninety seven with runners
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: and scoring position as of us recording this on April sixteenth.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Here this week. Look, I'm not going to panic as
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a fan since we still have a lot more baseball
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to watch from this team. We know how major League
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: baseball works, we know how the ins and outs of
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: players work. But there are definitely some things that we're
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: seeing right now that are very concerning with this team,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and it's basically destiny. I'm thinking, like the kind of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: stumbling that we saw during the last couple of months
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four season and recently Trey Turner
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: he said, it's just a matter of time before the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: offense starts coming around. Thank you, Trey, Please make it
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: so Destiny. What do you think we should be most
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: concerned about when it comes to the batting with this
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Phillies team here in April.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there are some disappointing stories early on,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: particularly when we're talking about Alec Bohum and Brandon Marsh.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Really with Alec Bohm, you like the quality of contact.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: What you don't like is him sulky in some of
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: his failures. And I know in spray trading, the team
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: talked him up and said, like, oh, he's a new guy.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: He's got a positive spirit even after an off season
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: of trade rumors, and we kind of saw the same thing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: But I do think Boum is starting to get out
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: of it a little bit, and hopefully he's learning from
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: just going through a bad slump and learning from the
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: idea that you don't have to kind of take every
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: bad result in and you could kind of be resilient
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: that way. And then with Marsh, it's just like it
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: feels like he's putting a lot of pressure on himself
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: and you kind of understand that just because he came
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: into this season with this idea that he's gonna, you know,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: prove to the team that he is the everyday center fielder.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: And I think as a result he is putting too
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: much pressure on himself. I know he talked about last
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: night he was just a little bit still in the
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: box and not feeling himself, and after a couple of
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: days of work he does feel a little bit better.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: As of right now, he's still over twenty nine, so
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: at some point, like he's he's going to get a hit.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: But it's been a pretty brutal slump for him early on,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: and it's it's definitely hit his confidence, but it's you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: everybody goes through this, right Its slumps are inevitable. So
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: these guys are going to get out of it, and
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: other guys are going to go into slumps, and then
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: we're gonna be freaking out about other players. It's just
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: a repetitive cycle of watching baseball. But I guess like
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: the biggest concern and I totally understand where people are
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: coming from, just because we've seen a lot of this
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. I think the angst
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: of the results of the last two playoffs where they
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: stopped hitting kind of seeps into this year, and whenever
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: you see signs of that coming into play, of course,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: like people are are going to be freaking out. So
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I think in general this year, like the bats have
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: been better runners in scoring position. I can't really say
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: the same thing. I just feel like there's a lack
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: of you know, execution and sometimes a lack of recognizing
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: the situation definitely.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, when it comes to to you.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Know, runners in scoring position, like it's such a fickle
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: stat like it's it's gonna change. Sometimes there's years like
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I think of the Atlanta Braves last year, like they
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: just never hit with runners in scoring positions. You just
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: hope that that's not the case. But I think that's
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: that's something that's gonna, you know, trend in a more
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: positive direction. But I do understand a lot of the
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: fan concern Early on. I'll tell people like, you know,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: this is the same thing. It happens every year. Guys
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: go into slumps and then they come out of it.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: You just have to be a little bit patient.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have to be patient. I mean, I'm
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: hoping Brandon Marsh doesn't wait until June to get that
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: next hit that we are so needing from him. And
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: in the same with Alec Bohm. I mean, just you know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: there's something to be said for sports psychology. The mental
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: aspects of the game of baseball. And I mean I
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: would imagine and I don't know, maybe it's something you
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: can ask, honestly, destiny when you are behind the scenes
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and when you are reporting, like how the sports psychology
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: has been going for this team. Do they have the
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: resources at Citizens Bank Park and within the club for
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: these guys to help them? Because what you're talking about,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and you said it, it's mental, I mean, this is
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: mental what is happening with this team? And hopefully from
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a sports psychology standpoint, it's tough to just work these
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: things out on a whim, like taking you know, just
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: at the snap of a finger. It takes time, and
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I think we need to understand that as fans. So
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: who knows me, Maybe maybe you want to ask about that.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you how to do your job.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I mean I could say I know that, like the
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Phillies are a team that, you know, pour the resources
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: into everything that could possibly be an advantage for them,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: and one of them is definitely, you know, the mental skills.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Like you'll see all these people behind the scenes, and
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: I think a big part of it not just you know,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: the people that are the specialists, but I think a
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: lot of the veterans, like I think of Kyle Schwarber
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: and even Bryce as like guys that you could lean
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: on if you are going through something like a slump
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: that's just kind of weighing you down mentally. I especially
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: think like guys like Kyle and Bryce could be like
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: a huge asset to the younger players. Yeah, but yeah,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: like it's just a matter of it's really hard to
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: talk about this stuff too, just because I've like the
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: fan and the media person like we've never experienced anything
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: like this where you're trying hard as you possibly can
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: to do the right thing and get the result, but
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: it's just not happening, and how do you deal with that?
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: And honestly, like I'm always amazed at how well these
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: guys can deal with failure. So it's a little bit
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: it's strange to see like someone like Boem who obviously
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: is having a hard time with it, like you empathize
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: with that because you can't really imagine yourself being in
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: that same situation. But I guess that's part of being
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: a professional baseball player, is that you have to be
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: able to deal with the failures and then also you know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: congratulate yourself when you're doing well.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: So absolutely there's a balance.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: It's a great question though, Yeah, there's a.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Balance for sure. Well. As we're moving along here, the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: offensive approach hasn't really changed too too much as we
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: know from last year to this year. And as a
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: fan destiny, as someone who understands baseball, I don't again
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: want to overreact to what we are seeing on the field.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: But there have been a lot of lineup changes already
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: this year and I'm I'm gonna be getting into the
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: leadoff spot in just a bit with our conversation, But
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you know, what should we be making of all the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: lineup changes that we've seen thus far? And is this
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: a reflection of maybe the team possibly losing some confidence
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: in themselves, maybe trying to find themselves because I feel
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: like there there's some urgency here that we're seeing early
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: in this season. And I guess also to follow up too,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: if you know, if this means that Kevin Long as
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the hitting coach, might his job be in jeopardy here?
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what do we make of all
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: these lineup changes? And you know, is Kevin Long could
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: he be possibly on the chopping block here?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the lineup changes are super interesting to me, just
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: because the way Rob Thompson has worked these last few
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: years is that he would kind of stick with a
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: certain lineup and show trust in certain guys, and then
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: when he does change the lineup, it's kind of a
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: side move. And then now, like, I feel like they're
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: just trying to find the right combination and get guys
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: used to being in different spots. And I don't think
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: that's a matter of panicking. I think it's I think
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: part of it too, is narrative because we talk so
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: much about the lineup and you know, what's the best
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: combination of guys. It's like if you change the lineup
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: every day, that we're a bit exhausted by this conversation
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: and it's kind of rendered meaningless. So that's my like
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: conspiracy theory when it comes to the lineup. This is
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: something that I actually really want to ask Rob about,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: just because he is known for thinking about his lineup,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: stays in advance, and then when he does make a change,
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: it doesn't look like he's being reactionary or panicky. So
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: I wonder if that change that has changed at all
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: this year. Yeah, you know, I'm sure like it's a
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: matter of like he knows three days in advance who's playing,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: and then it's a matter of like figuring out the
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: lineup combination. You know, I'll figure that out later. But
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: you know, as far as Kevin Long goes, I think
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: that this is more of like a evaluate the situation
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: after the playoffs, right, because Kevin.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Long has been doing a pretty good job as a
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: hitting coach now for some time here.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's been some success stories. Like I think
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: about like Brandon marsh when he came here. I know,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: like we're talking about him struggling. I even think about
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: like the changes he should suggested the Max Kepler and
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: how they they panned out in spring training. I know
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: it's been a bit of an uneven start for him,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: but I think that'll turn into another Kevin Long success story.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: And you know, all the guys like him, and there
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, a valid conversation whether they should
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: move on or not after you know, the same thing
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: happening in the playoffs last year, And I think if
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: if it happens again a third time, then I think
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: the move is obvious. But I don't see like in
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: in season change the way, you know, I think back
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: to twenty nineteen where they inserted Charlie Manuel right just
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: to kind of get everybody to clear their head, Like,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I don't see that as something that's gonna happen this year,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: but yeah, you're right, like they're gonna have to and
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: this is you know, it's October, so like we're months
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: away from kind of dealing with that conversation. But they're
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: gonna have to. Uh there's going to be a have
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: to be a different result for him to keep his
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: job next year.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I can agree with that absolutely. Yeah, some some reevaluation
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: for sure. And I mentioned the leadoff spot to you,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: and I was I was really wondering at the start
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: of the season, Destiny what we should be making of
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the leadoff spot with with that particular storyline, because there
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: was some juice to whether or not there were going
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: to be different players and and different strategies or just
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to throw something against the wall and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: see what sticks with regard to the leadoff spot. And uh,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I was coming into this season season thinking
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: that we would see some experiment and other folks are
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: kind of like, ah, it's really not gonna happen. It's
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be Coylle war berh blah blah blah. But we
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: are definitely seeing some changes every now and then to
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the leadoff spot. What should we be making of this here? Ed,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: What have you been thinking about this?
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: I think this is super interesting too. And you know,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: we just talked about the lineup as a whole. But
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: I know in spring training Rob was asked about Brice
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: and stodd as a leadoff guy and he was just like,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: you know, the way the lefty heavy lineup is just
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: not gonna happen. And then lo and behold, Like in
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: the middle of April, he's kidding lead off against right
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: handed starters. And the big storyline in spring training too
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: is that they're gonna move Trey Turner to the lead
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: off spot to kind of nudge him into thinking of
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: a different approach and thinking about getting on base and
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: going the other way. And then now he's just the
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: leadoff hitter against lefties. And then pow Shoreward, it's like
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: who cares where he hits? Like he's gonna hit no
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: matter where you put him. So yeah, Like, I mean,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to see how the Bryson Stott lead off
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: experiment goes. Like I'm more of a proponent of like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: your three best hitters have to hit one, two, three,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: and I'm not quite there as far as like Bryson
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: stopped being one of their three best hitters. Like to me,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: it's obviously like Schwarber, Bryce and Trey. I'm more interested
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: in seeing if Rob continues with stacking the lefties. It's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: a little bit easier for this series. And when I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: mean stacking the lefties, I mean hitting Schwarber and Harper
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: back to back, or Harper and Shorter back to back.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit easier for the Giants here. It's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: just because they only have one lefty in the bullpen.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: But I think a massive flaw in the way they've
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: constructed lineups in the last few years is the lack
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: of shrikes Bryce is seen in the shrike zone, and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: that it's a big part of you know, they've had
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Boem and Costianos behind him as the protection. I think
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: that's a big reason why that Harper's not seeing a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: lot of strike So having Schreber theoretically behind him is
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: hopefully going to help. So I'm curious to see if
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: that continues and if like we actually see Bryce getting
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: more strikes in the zone. And as a result, you know,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: having better numbers. It's it's it's crazy because like Bryce,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: you know, he has great numbers anyway, but like he's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: doing this without like seeing like the least amount of
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: strikes as any other hitter in baseball.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: But yeah, like as I said before, like the whole
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: lineup conversation, I know, like people like to poop poo
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: it and say like in the end, it really doesn't matter.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: But like the fact that we're continuing to talk about
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: it it does matter. Does it also matters too?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, absolutely it does. I don't yeah that that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: that that whole narrative of that it really doesn't matter
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: in the end. I don't buy it. I really don't.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: So glad, I'm glad we're on the same page.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: That's my anti analytics take. As you think lineups actually matter,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: it's not just a matter of like it like a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: difference of like four runs over the course of the season.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, Well, as we're moving along with a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: conversation here Destiny, you know, we were talking about Brandon
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: marsh here, and I had so much hope for him
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: coming into this season. I really thought that he would
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: be able to seize the moment with his starts and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: also how he would be performing against lefties. I was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: a big proponent for him being that every day center
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: fielder here, but of course, as we know, he's been
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: disappointing to say the least, and it's just bench basically.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: A few days ago here, I just you know, we
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: talked about sports psychology. We talked about, you know, how
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: players in general try to get out of the slumps
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: that they get into during the course of seasons. Is
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: there anything Rob Thompson you think and the coaching staff
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: can be doing more to possibly help him at this point?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: And this really transcends to the team too, because, like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, this is gonna happen to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe just about everybody because everybody does go through
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: slumps here. Can Rob Thompson and company be doing anything more?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Do you think?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think they're They're doing a lot already, especially
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Kevin Long behind the scenes, just trying to get him
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: mechanically right. And I think I mentioned this before, like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: he he thought he was too still in his mechanics
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: and he has to kind of get back to his
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: bounty self. But I think the thing that Brandon marsh
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: could lean on. And this is kind of different than
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Boem is that he's a positive spirit and a guy
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: that could not only uplift others, but uplift himself. So
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously, like when you see you know for
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: twenty nine, you're going to be down yourself. But I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: think he can rely on his ability to kind of
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: put the past in the past and kind of focus on,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: you know, not only getting good results for himself, but
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: he's also a very team oriented guy, and he's hitting
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: at the bottom of the lineup, so he's not expected
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: to carry the team, right, so you know, he could
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: kind of take soul list in the fact that he
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: gave a good at beat and then that kind of
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: led to the top of the lineup doing something you know,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: a little bit later. So yeah, I just I mean,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: I feel pretty confident in Brandon marsh getting out of it.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think it's a matter of like, you know,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: the manager, the hitting coach helping him out too much.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Like I think he kind of has the tools within
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: himself to you know, kind of lift himself out of
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: the slump.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, as we're moving along with the
• 1:04:31
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• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:38
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:45
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• 1:04:49
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• 1:04:51
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• 1:04:53
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm still on X. Honestly, I'm not as
• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:31
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:35
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:54
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• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I will say I will say this too, And I
• 1:06:00
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• 1:06:04
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• 1:06:08
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• 1:06:13
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• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:28
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:33
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• 1:06:37
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• 1:06:41
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• 1:06:43
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• 1:06:47
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• 1:06:50
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• 1:06:51
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• 1:06:53
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• 1:06:56
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• 1:06:59
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• 1:07:02
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• 1:07:04
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• 1:07:06
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• 1:07:09
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• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: a reporter. And what I found is that I find
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: the job to be like so fulfilling that it's it's
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  Speaker 3: been a very easy transition. I would say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the harder part about it is like if I'm around
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  Speaker 3: the team and like I really like everybody in the
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  Speaker 3: Phillies organization, Like there's honestly like no bad apples that
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  Speaker 3: I've met. It's hard to criticize someone that you personally like,
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  Speaker 3: because I find that to be like the difficult part
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  Speaker 3: of the job, not not even like the you know,
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  Speaker 3: I like, I want the Phillies to do well for
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  Speaker 3: the sake of like, you know, the people that I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: know that are still Phillies fans in the city, but
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  Speaker 3: I also want like I see like kind of what
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  Speaker 3: goes goes in the work of the everyday base.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you see how the sausage. Yeah, you see
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  Speaker 1: how that sausage is made, for sure, and you really
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  Speaker 1: do have a great balance with it, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons I love following you and what
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  Speaker 1: you what you are specifically doing from a reporting spective
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  Speaker 1: and as a fan. So well, look, as we're moving
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  Speaker 1: along here, I wanted to get into some pitching with you,
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  Speaker 1: Destiny and specifically the good news coming from this Phillies
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  Speaker 1: organization in terms of Andrew Painter is officially on the
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  Speaker 1: mound down in clear Water. He's been on a pitch
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  Speaker 1: limit for sure in Florida before he starts making his
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  Speaker 1: way hopefully to the majors and to Philadelphia and just
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  Speaker 1: a couple to a few months, that's the hope for sure.
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  Speaker 1: What do us fans need to keep seeing from Andrew Painter?
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  Speaker 1: You know where he is at right now where we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be confident in him joining this Phillies team
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  Speaker 1: later this season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's all about health obviously, Like he
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  Speaker 3: can't pitch if he's not healthy, and you know, we're
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  Speaker 3: one started and so far, so good. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to take too much from these,
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  Speaker 3: you know, rehab. I don't know if he could even
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  Speaker 3: call it rehab, just because he's technically not even like
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  Speaker 3: on the injured list, but he's just slowly building up,
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  Speaker 3: and the Phillies want to conserve his inning. So I
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  Speaker 3: do think, you know that the interesting thing about like
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  Speaker 3: the Andrew Payter conversation is that I don't think the
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  Speaker 3: collective Phillies fan understands how good he can be, because
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  Speaker 3: I do think when it comes to these top prospects,
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  Speaker 3: we always have this you know, air of skepticism. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, Andrew Painter, I believe he's like the seventh
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  Speaker 3: rank prospect in baseball when he comes up like he
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  Speaker 3: is going to make an impact. It's a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a strained situation too, just because he's a starting
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  Speaker 3: pitcher and their biggest strength is the starting rotation and
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  Speaker 3: also the fact that they're very good at keeping their
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  Speaker 3: startup healthy. So you know, once this becomes more of
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  Speaker 3: a prominent conversation, it's like, where is he going to go? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've read a Todd's Lucky. Talked to David
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  Speaker 3: Browski recently and he said that they don't see him
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  Speaker 3: as a bullpen arm just because of they don't want
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  Speaker 3: to change his role and they want to kind of
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  Speaker 3: keep him healthy and on the same path. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: very interested to see what happens. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: would say is like the collective, you know, Philly's view
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  Speaker 3: where we've been very lucky as to the like amount
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  Speaker 3: of starting pictures that have stayed healthy. So you never
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  Speaker 3: really know what's going to come up in the next
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  Speaker 3: couple of months. Maybe in June, like we're having a
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  Speaker 3: conversation of like, oh, they're down two or three starting pictures.
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  Speaker 3: They need Andrew Paynter. Maybe Andrew Paynter's looked at more
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  Speaker 3: as a luxury. Maybe the plan changes and they do
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  Speaker 3: put him in the bullpen, like he knows. But it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be it's going to be a very exciting storyline,
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  Speaker 3: just because we've been anticipating this for the last two years.
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  Speaker 3: They really needed him a twenty three and then you
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  Speaker 3: know his arm unfortunately gave out. But yep, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: just it's something to look forward to.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait to see
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  Speaker 1: what he's going to do when he gets up to
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  Speaker 1: the bigs and even going through the farm system too.
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  Speaker 1: As somebody who you know keeps tabs on what happens
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  Speaker 1: in reading what happens in Lehigh Valley, can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: see what Andrew Paynter is going to do. So to
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  Speaker 1: close us out here destiny and sticking with the pitching here,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about Zach Wheeler. Zach Wheeler currently
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  Speaker 1: as of us recording this again on April sixteenth here
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, has a four point zero seven ERA,
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  Speaker 1: one win, one loss, not a great era by any
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  Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination by Zach Wheeler standards here, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Tywan Walker at this point has a better ra than Wheeler.
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  Speaker 1: At the moment, I'm wondering what should our level of
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  Speaker 1: concern be for the ace pitcher on this Phillies team
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  Speaker 1: right now? Like, are you concerned at all? Should we
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  Speaker 1: be concerned as a fan base? What are your thoughts here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I'm not concerned until I really see
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  Speaker 3: something that allows me to be concerned. Like the thing
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  Speaker 3: with me with April Break Baseball, It's just so weird,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: like the weather's bad, weird things happen, you know, bad
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  Speaker 3: teams end up at the top of the standings, and
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  Speaker 3: then a picture like Zack Wheeler has a four yra
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it just hasn't been like quite as sharp
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  Speaker 3: as a start to the season as you would imagine
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  Speaker 3: for Zack Wheeler just feels like he has those bad innings.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a story that we talk about with a
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  Speaker 3: lot of starting pictures, like they're cruising through three talk
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  Speaker 3: about this a lot with Aaron Nola, and then they
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  Speaker 3: kind of just lose their command and then they have
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  Speaker 3: a long inning and then that kind of ruins their line.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, the era, like I think back to
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  Speaker 3: that start in Atlanta, Johann Ross catches that ball, and
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  Speaker 3: the story is probably a lot different. Yeah, absolutely, so
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  Speaker 3: I think with Zach Wheeler, it's just, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: I said before with Andrew Paynter, like health is the
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  Speaker 3: biggest thing. Like if he's making every start, then you
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  Speaker 3: feel pretty good. Even if he's kind of not at
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  Speaker 3: his best right now. It's hard to take for granted.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Zack Wheeler's been so good, he's also been
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  Speaker 3: so healthy, so like to kind of see him at
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  Speaker 3: a point of season where is eras like that, Like,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little bit strange, but I feel good that
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  Speaker 3: Zac Wheeler is going to bounce back at some point.
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  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good again. She is Destiny Legardo. Folks
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