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Vikings Reset at QB, Flores' Defense Shines, and Miami Must-Win Preview · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Project Sports Network, I am your host Bubba Starts, and you are here tonight for Tailgate
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  Tuesday.
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  I'm gonna bring in my cohost, Big b.
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  B, what's shaking tonight, buddy?
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  Not much.
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  Tuesday night, we got a couple topics to talk about for football, especially for the Vikings,
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  but, hey.
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  You know what?
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  I wish there was some I wish there was some news we could share tonight.
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  But, you know Yeah.
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  There's definitely some news in the league.
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  We're we're three and o and riding high, so let's keep it going.
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  Yeah.
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  Riding high, I I think that depends on who you talk to.
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  Well, let's get coach in here.
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  Coach coach about riding high.
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  How are you doing, fellas?
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  Man, we we are good, brother.
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  We are good.
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  Great to see you guys.
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  Had a great pregame show on Sunday.
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  I think that game went I I pretty much how I expected, especially from the defensive side.
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  Obviously, I think we all expect the offense to be better.
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  I think it has it has a chance to be better because the bar is so low right now that it's
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  hard to envision it being any worse.
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  Mhmm.
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  But we are we are really excited about the show today.
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  I'm excited because I'm headed back to Minnesota this weekend.
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  I don't know if I'll be going into the stadium this time or not, but tickets are way cheaper
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  for this Miami game and even cheaper for some of the future games.
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  So I'm keeping my eye on some things.
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  If I can get in for, like, a $110, it's kinda hard to say no, but we'll see.
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  What's happening?
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  Barber, our guy, three and o, cool Kev, what is happening?
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  Got the basketball on there.
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  We're gonna have some big announcements with that.
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  We're gonna start a new basketball show tomorrow.
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  Our guy, Selly, who was on with us last week, He's gonna be our new cohost of the rim report
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  here on SPSN.
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  We'll see if we get Cody to come in, talk some wolves with us.
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  I know he's a big basketball fan as well, but we are here tonight to talk about this
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  Minnesota Vikings team.
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  We're gonna touch on the JJ McCarthy trade.
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  Not gonna spend a lot of time on that.
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  We have a ton of other news and and things to talk about.
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  Speaking of our guy, Selly, I'm a let him get settled in a little bit, and we're we're gonna
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  bring him tonight too.
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  Just saw him jump backstage.
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  So excited to have him with us, a great contributor to this project.
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  Let's get thoughts.
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  Let's just throw the JJ McCarthy stuff around real quick.
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  A fifth round pick, Obviously, if you haven't heard the news yet, you've been living under a
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  rock.
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  JJ McCarthy to the New York Giants.
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  Fifth round pick in return, a massive, black eye for the Vikings organization, as a whole.
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  It's really, you know, you you trade it up.
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  You know, a fourth and a fifth, you let go.
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  I know they got the seventh back.
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  You let a first round pick go less than three years after you make the selection.
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  Massive black eye for your former GM.
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  I think the coaching staff bears some weight in here.
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  The player bears some weight of that as well in JJ McCarthy not being able to stay healthy.
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  Lot of talk about timelines and and, you know, just a a vision for the development that they
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  had for JJ McCarthy and just time on task not being there to accomplish what they wanted to.
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  So, I I mean, at the end of the day, that that chapter is now closed on this season.
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  It is Kyler Murray until it's not possibly, and then it's Carson Wentz.
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  And we'll we'll see if there's more help possibly coming.
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  Who knows?
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  Right?
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  There are a couple of quarterbacks that we've talked about for the last couple of years that
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  are kind of in the wings and always in conversations like that.
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  Nolan Teasley in his press conference eluded a little bit to look.
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  This fifth round pick is an asset.
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  We have 11 picks in the 2027 draft, which is going to be, from all, you know, all the
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  analysts that I I've heard that it's gonna be a historically deep draft and a very talented
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  draft.
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  So a fifth round pick in most years isn't worth much, but maybe worth a little bit more value
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  right now.
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  Is there another QB that may be coming in, on the trade market?
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  I had b look up the, you know, available free agents for next year.
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  I don't know if we'll get to that, you know, right away here, but we may kind of address
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  that towards the end of the show.
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  Quick thoughts here, b and Cody, and then we're gonna get Selly in here and start talking
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  about, what Minnesota needs to kinda do, you know, what they did in what they did in Tampa
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  Bay, and then moving forward into this game against Miami.
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  So, Bea, let's start with you.
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  You know, we we've talked a lot about, obviously, JJ McCarthy on this show since its
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  inception.
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  Mhmm.
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  You know, a a young player that just never couldn't stay healthy enough to ever really see
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  that potential that maybe you had when when the he was selected at 10 overall.
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  So, you know, your quick thoughts on, you know, the return and now moving on and having the,
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  you know, Max Brosmer as QB three, Carson as QB two, and Kyler Murray as QB one.
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  Well, what can you say?
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  You got a first rounder two years ago, you end up trading them because it wasn't working out
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  for whatever reasons here, either not getting a chance, not staying healthy, not producing.
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  And then you go and trade for a fifth round pick to a a team that, you know, now they got
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  to worry about it.
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  They got two young quarterbacks that can't stay healthy, but not our problem anymore.
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  So my first thought was, wow.
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  We actually traded them.
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  My second thought is maybe KLC should have been walked out right behind him because he's pretty
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  much the last piece to that that draft pick.
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  I mean, the GM's gone.
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  Now the coach is the only one here.
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  And typically, the coaches are tied to the quarterback.
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  So we'll see what happens.
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  But now we are 100% reliant on Kyle and Murray to stay healthy and produce.
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  And what we saw against the Bears or the Bucks doesn't leave me high hopes right now.
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  So I I'd rather see Wentz go back to that starting role here.
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  If things don't get moving along, heck, maybe even I know Brosner did do good last year, but,
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  you know, that's our third option unless we It was make painful.
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  It was painful.
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  Was blazing.
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  Blazing that Max Brozmer I mean
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  was getting from KOC in his press
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  conference yesterday.
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  Just like that.
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  Is if if Murray goes down, Wentz, you got Brozness, and now we gotta worry about, okay.
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  If Wentz stays healthy or gets hurt, Brozner, we saw what he did last year.
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  We gotta go out and get somebody.
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  So I think the Vikings are working the phones here and there just to kinda see what's out
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  there.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, we're gonna take a look at that later on and and kind of assess this quarterback
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  situation.
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  Now we don't know if they're gonna make a move before the season.
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  I I think Kyler Murray would have to look really bad for something like that to happen
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  before the trade deadline.
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  But looking ahead, you know, you don't have a quarterback under contract now for next year.
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  Maybe Max is.
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  I don't know what those kind of ungrafted free agent contracts look like, but you're not
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  relying on, you know, a guy that's QB three right now and looked pretty pretty raw in the
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  few games that he had to start last year as like, oh, that's the guy moving into, you know,
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  2027.
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  So, coach, your thoughts on kind of, you know, moving on.
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  You know, a a lot of talk today was about, oh, well, he was a problem in the locker room, and
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  I I guess I it was really hard to see from the outside that that was.
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  Now could he be a little bit disgruntled, I guess?
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  I I didn't see it as far as the players and what you saw on video.
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  Now we don't know what goes on inside of that building, but hard for a young player who, you
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  know, did start 10 games last year to not be a little disappointed with how things have played
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  out over the last six months.
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  Right?
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  I think a lot of us thought that JJ McCarthy would be gone off of this team before this
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  week.
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  A lot of people predicting it happening before the season even started.
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  I think the team, themselves kind of tanked his value to the point where if they were gonna
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  wanna get rid of him, they were gonna have to cut him.
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  You got lucky, I wanna say, that a Jackson Dart does get hurt.
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  Maybe you got, you know, Jim Harbaugh whispering in brother John's ear and saying,
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  hey.
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  Like, go get this guy.
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  A fifth round ain't much.
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  Who knows what to what the guys do.
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  But
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, you know, when the team trades up for you, picks you, you know, a high first round
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  pick, you gotta produce.
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  You gotta stay healthy.
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  He just couldn't do that.
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  NFL stands for not for long.
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  And, you know, I mean, if he doesn't produce, you know, over in New York, he probably won't
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  be in the league long.
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  But, you know, my first, initial reaction, I thought we could have gotten a little bit more,
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  at least a fourth.
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  But, you know, considering the draft is a deep one, with a lot of talent, This fifth is
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  basically a fourth, so I'm alright with that.
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  But, you know, we probably should be looking for a backup option, a third option just in
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  case because, like you said, we saw what Brozmer can do.
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  You know, KOC loves him.
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  Sees
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  He made that clear.
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  You
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  know?
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  But, yeah, if Kyler can't stay healthy and wets goes down, then, you know, this season turns
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  around real quick.
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  I think KLC only likes Brother because he's a Minnesota boy.
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  I think that's
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  Well, you know what?
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  He he liked he liked JJ too.
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  And a lot of the same things that he was saying about JJ, you know, last year, he's saying
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  about Kyler Murray now.
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  So at
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  the end of the day, you can't really take a a lot.
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  You have to trust their actions more so than what what they're saying out there on on a
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  daily basis, especially in a press conference like that.
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  I don't know that we'll ever get to hear.
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  And that's the thing, coach, you can you know, if you get interviewed by a newspaper or after
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  game and you find out one of your players are leaving, I mean, you're gonna say good things
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  about him.
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  You're not gonna say, well, good riddance.
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  The guy wasn't a dick in the locker room stuff.
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  You're gonna just praise him as much as possible.
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  So, I mean, what else are they gonna say?
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  I mean
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  I'm I'm more interested to see if JJ McCarthy comes out and says anything about his former
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  coach and the situation as time goes on.
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  I don't think it's gonna be soon, but not no.
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  Steve, we love you, dude.
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  We'll never ban you.
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  Oh, get out of here.
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  We ain't like that.
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  What up, Steve?
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  Man, it's all in good fun, brother.
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  And it's all in good fun, and we kick the shit out of you guys with our backup quarterback on
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  opening day.
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  We're gonna do it again.
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  We ain't worried about you.
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  We ain't worried about you.
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  We love you.
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  Gonna you're being the eighties, you know that I would be a Packers fan.
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  Oh, good stuff.
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  Well, I mean, that kinda closes the chapter on the JJ McCarthy era here in Minnesota.
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  I really don't care what he does in New York.
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  It didn't matter to me much.
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  I wish him all the best.
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  I'm not one of those people that are like, oh, I hope he goes and lights it up there.
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  Hell no.
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  I don't give a I don't one, I don't care what he does, and I would never hope for someone to
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  come back and beat my team in the like, you're not a fan, and you're not a like, yeah.
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  That's just that's crazy.
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  Some fans are so tied to a player.
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  We're tied to the uniform.
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  Right?
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  And ultimately, at the end of the day, that's what it has to be here.
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  And, you know, we can wish him the best today and tomorrow.
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  Completely forget about him.
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  We got our own problems.
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  And I wanna go ahead and get, Selly in here.
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  Angelo, thanks for thanks for popping in, man.
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  Appreciate you.
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  Rap must not have gone live tonight.
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  That that's what I I can see all the boys in here hanging out.
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  We appreciate y'all.
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  Let's get our guy Selly in the building.
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  What's happening, Selly?
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  How you doing, brother?
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  What's up, guys?
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  How you doing?
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  What's good, man?
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  Man, we're here.
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  Yes, sweetie.
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  Three and o, baby.
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  That.
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  What'd you think of the game?
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  It was a it was a rough watch, kinda.
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  Like, offensively, both offenses really struggled.
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  Not really, we can't really blame the weather this week in sunny Florida.
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  No.
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  And sorry.
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  I had to fill up my water.
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  I realized it was empty, just now.
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  But, yeah, she had just a a brutal game to watch if you like offensive football.
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  It it was truly just you know?
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  And it was actually it was worse on the Tampa Bay side to watch.
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  I I kinda feel bad for that fan base.
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  My mom's my mom's husband is a Bucks fan, so we haven't spoken yet this week.
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  I was letting it simmer, not rubbing any salt.
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  Just I mean, you guys know my family are all bears fans too.
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  I I haven't even reached out all week.
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  Bears obviously got a big win with Case Keenum.
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  Shout out to Case.
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  Getting a win against Philly last night on Monday Night Football.
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  Thought a really cool story from that is that, you know, guy's 38 years old, been in the
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  league a long time, and his kids have never got to see him play in a game.
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  Right?
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  That this journeyman backup QB, and now he gets to, you know, go out, perform on a, you know,
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  on the biggest of stages.
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  Right?
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  A a prime time game in front of his kids and just a really cool.
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  Cool story.
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  Good for them.
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  Fuck the bears, but good for Case and all good.
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  So but, yeah, Selly, you you nailed it, man.
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  The the the game on Sunday between the Vikings and the Bucks, just brutal.
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  I mean, we expected the Bucks offense to to sputter because this defense of the Vikings is
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  so strong.
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  But I I think we can all kinda speak to the fact that we wanted it to be better.
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  You lose Jefferson.
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  You do have some good moments and things happen.
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  The long, you know, touchdown to Addison, thought it was really good to see him get
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  going.
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  Still don't think he's, you know, the the player that a lot of people in Vikings nation
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  believe he is.
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  I think you saw why he's not a number one.
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  As some people have said, I don't even know if he's a super effective second option.
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  A lot of times, he pretty much a one trick pony.
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  I'm gonna run as fast as I can straight down the field and burn you.
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  And that's kind of the the whole game plan there, but he stepped up.
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  He he made a couple of big catches for the team.
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  He also had a huge drop on another one, and it was, yeah, just tough.
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  Really tough with no running game getting going.
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  Aaron Jones looking a little tired, not necessarily, you know, showing the age, showing
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  the wear and tear of all the carries over the last few weeks that he's had to endure.
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  And, you know, the exactly the reason why they go out and sign a running back off the street
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  today and to have someone in there.
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  So, Selly, were you surprised that the Vikings defense kind of went out and did what they did
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  against the Bucks who I think are you know, you didn't have the advantage of a sloppy field
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  like you did against Chicago.
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  For you kind of looking a a little bit from the outside here, you know, not being as deep
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  Vikings nation as we are.
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  What do you think about that, you know, that that defense of the Vikings?
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  I I think it's the best defense in the league.
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  I think I'm really hoping Brian Flores gets a job after this year because this dude is
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  You shut your mouth, unless it's with the Vikings.
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  This dude has just been brilliant.
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  Like, shutting shutting defend offensives down, just doing his thing, confusing elite
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  quarterbacks.
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  Like, Dominique Foxworth said he's doing sorcery out there.
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  Just QBs are seeing averages they've never seen before.
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  So, like, I I've just I'm really hope I know, like, he's had, like, problems in the past
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  with, like, the legal stuff suing the league.
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  But, like, I really hope the way this defense is playing, playing, he's proven overtime now
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  that he is a good coach.
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  He's a great coach, and he should get another shot.
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  But, like, six sacks on the day just forcing another I just think the chaos they the chaos
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  they show on defense just it's just, like, on another level.
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  Even, like, better than the Texans last year, the Seahawks, it's just different coverages
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  that, like, people have never seen.
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  Coach, is that chaos and live by the blitz, die by the blitz, do you think that's sustainable
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  over the course of a 17 game season when we know that injuries are going to pile up
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  eventually?
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  You you don't avoid it forever.
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  So is it sustainable?
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  It's working really well right now while everyone's healthy and operating at a high
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  level.
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  But especially with the offense, not being able to sustain drives and and really keep the
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  defense fresh on the sideline.
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  I don't even know how many possessions there were last game, and thank goodness that they
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  were forcing the three and outs they were and not having to endure long drives on the
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  defense.
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  But is this a sustainable way for this team to continue playing?
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  I mean, I think so.
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  I think it you know?
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  Yeah.
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  Our offense obviously has to pick it up.
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  We have to find our rhythm and, momentum, and we will.
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  It's weird to talk about a three and o team, that, you know, doesn't really have an offense,
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  you know, other than a kicker.
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  I I think it's sustainable even if we have injuries.
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  You know, that's why you have backups.
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  So you don't have backups just for fun.
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  You have them because, you know, you think you might need them, and it's gonna be next man up.
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  But this defense, it's exciting, and I think, you know, that just gives an extra energy to
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  these players because they're balling out right now.
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  They're flying around like dogs.
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  B, we talked a lot about it in the off season, the emergence of Dallas Turner.
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  He continues to excel in every way.
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  But now we have some other guys that are stepping up as well and not just the rookies in
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  the middle.
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  I I thought that, you know, I we didn't really hear Big Citrus' name a lot during that, but
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  you definitely saw, you know, the first round pick, Kayla Banks, getting into the backfield.
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  You're seeing the, you know, kind of athletic ability that he has to really force that.
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  But you have veterans that you signed in in training camp with Kyle Vannoy who came in and
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  had a sack and a half yesterday, really adding some, some savvy, I guess, to it coming in on a
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  couple of stunts and creating a bit in it.
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  He may not be able to chase down a Baker Mayfield in the open field, Right?
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  But he's going to be able to I mean, everyone had trouble catching Baker.
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  The the man is a phenomenal athlete.
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  Really sorry to see him dislocate the thumb there on Cashman's hand at the end.
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  That was pretty tough to sit and listen to him screaming on the sideline.
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  I don't think you ever like to see a player like that getting injured.
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  And, I mean, the Bucks are now reeling and looking at, you know, maybe do we just try to
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  lose the rest of the season and put ourselves up at the top of a a great a great draft this
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  year.
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  B, what are your thoughts?
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  No.
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  This defense right now is playing all out.
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  I mean, the blitzes are working.
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  Yeah.
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  Maybe a little bit blitzing too much, which we've seen the teams are the opponents catch us
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  off guard once a while.
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  But when when the blitz is on, that team is doing phenomenal job.
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  I mean, Dallas Turner, you know, Big Scissors.
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  I mean, Cash was probably the only one that got to Baker could've got to Baker on that run.
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  Again, yeah, sorry for the dislocated thumb, but, you know, this deep edge, you know, like,
• 21:51
  so I said, it's probably top notch.
• 21:54
  At least top five right now.
• 21:57
  I mean
• 21:59
  Yeah.
• 22:00
  I I it I I have to agree with Sully.
• 22:02
  This is the best defense in the league.
• 22:05
  I don't know if it's statistically for me, I'm saying best.
• 22:08
  I they are most feared by far.
• 22:11
  I don't think any offensive coordinator wants to plan for going up against this team.
• 22:15
  I don't think any quarterback wants to go out against this team.
• 22:20
  And because you know even though you know they're gonna blitz, and at this point, it's
• 22:25
  75% of the time.
• 22:26
  It's just it's crazy to think about that.
• 22:29
  And sometimes it's one extra guy, and sometimes it's three or four.
• 22:35
  And and you never know
• 22:36
  what it's going to be.
• 22:38
  And that's the scary part, and even other players have said it too.
• 22:42
  Yeah.
• 22:42
  This defense is scary because you don't know if they're gonna blitz one, they're gonna blitz
• 22:46
  two, they're gonna blitz five,
• 22:49
  eight.
• 22:49
  Or they're gonna drop everybody.
• 22:51
  They're gonna drop everybody.
• 22:52
  I mean, they don't know what's going on.
• 22:54
  So that's the scary part.
• 22:56
  Yeah.
• 22:56
  I would just look at the bears last night.
• 22:58
  I mean, we've had three weeks of football, and the bears, two weeks, they didn't play the
• 23:02
  vikings, looked great on offense.
• 23:05
  Yeah.
• 23:06
  I mean, you know, when you we always hear it.
• 23:09
  Veteran quarterbacks are like, you know, I we've seen every defense, every coverage out
• 23:14
  there, but Flores is able to make these veterans, you know, look foolish and just,
• 23:22
  skittish and uncomfortable.
• 23:24
  And it's it's amazing to see.
• 23:26
  It's like Flores has a personal vendetta out.
• 23:29
  He's like, hey.
• 23:30
  You guys didn't wanna give me this job.
• 23:32
  I had to, you know,
• 23:33
  do some legal stuff against you.
• 23:34
  Now I'm gonna come at you with everything every week.
• 23:41
  Every single week.
• 23:42
  It was pretty awesome to watch, and the special teams continues to be another highlight of this
• 23:49
  team.
• 23:50
  The kicking game has been automatic for a couple of years now.
• 23:54
  Will Rykard just continues to to instill confidence, not only in his team, but in the
• 24:00
  fan base.
• 24:01
  I wasn't worried at all about the 56 yarder, you know, kind of there to push the game to a
• 24:06
  four point game and force the Bucks to have to score a touchdown there at the end.
• 24:12
  He he he does like to cut it close.
• 24:15
  Not all of them go, you know, right down the middle.
• 24:18
  He definitely hugs that post quite a bit, but they all go in.
• 24:23
  And right now, riding high on that.
• 24:25
  And you had Miles Price again show up and be a factor in another game.
• 24:30
  He had the big return in week one that set up a score and kinda got a little bit of juices
• 24:35
  flowing for the offense.
• 24:37
  And then this week, just taking it himself and taking the punt return all the way to the
• 24:41
  house.
• 24:41
  Really exciting to see at least two phases of this team looking really good through three
• 24:47
  weeks of football.
• 24:49
  So I do have the defensive stats here where they rank.
• 24:54
  In total offense, they ranked twelfth.
• 24:58
  In passing, they're about twentieth.
• 25:02
  Rushing, they are they are fourth in rushing.
• 25:09
  And in total points allowed, they are number two.
• 25:14
  Nice.
• 25:17
  So
• 25:17
  Yeah.
• 25:17
  And I don't see a lot of that changing.
• 25:20
  It it they're just going to continue to be I think what's a lot different this year as
• 25:23
  compared to last season was we have depth now on that defense.
• 25:30
  And you have young guys that can play.
• 25:32
  Maybe they don't have the experience, but they can eat up some of those early game reps and to
• 25:38
  be effective early so that these older veterans have a little bit more left in the tank when it
• 25:45
  matters, and you need a little bit of that, you know, that savviness that a a veteran can bring
• 25:50
  towards the end of the game.
• 25:52
  And, Steve, it's me typing, dude.
• 25:54
  Don't worry.
• 25:55
  Got words for you, but I'm saving it.
• 25:59
  Bayfield looked flustered.
• 26:00
  B flow defense just chips and chips at opposing offenses eventually, though, like, grow.
• 26:05
  I mean, it's it's exhausting.
• 26:06
  It's exhausting for an offense, and you saw the penalties piling up.
• 26:10
  I mean, they couldn't block this team unless they were holding.
• 26:15
  Yeah.
• 26:16
  And we're also checking in takeaways, by the way.
• 26:20
  Well, in continuing to to take the ball away is gonna be really important.
• 26:24
  What a couple of picks.
• 26:25
  Right?
• 26:25
  Van Ginkle had the one.
• 26:27
  Really nice to see Zay Rogers get a pick there at the end just to kind of pad the stats after
• 26:32
  not getting the one, you know, in Chicago to go through.
• 26:36
  Really happy for him to see that.
• 26:38
  Just a a baller.
• 26:40
  Zay Rogers is quickly becoming one of my favorite players on this team.
• 26:45
  I I just he he's got a knack for being around the ball and making big plays.
• 26:50
  Couple of big tackles.
• 26:51
  No.
• 26:53
  Well and I thought Theo Jackson stepped up and had a much better game this week after kind of
• 26:58
  looking pretty rough against Green Bay.
• 27:00
  I was there in person.
• 27:01
  He made a couple of really bad reads.
• 27:04
  Now he's probably getting less reps now as Harrison is is kinda ramping up to his side.
• 27:10
  I didn't see the snap counts on everybody to kinda make assessment on that.
• 27:14
  Obviously, the McCarthy trade yesterday just kind of taking up a lot of time and and energy
• 27:20
  from that.
• 27:20
  So I didn't even really look into a lot of these stats just because I at the end of the
• 27:25
  day, we won.
• 27:26
  We know our defense looks awesome.
• 27:28
  The special teams are showing up, but this offense is really not is making me avoid the
• 27:33
  stats because it is so putrid.
• 27:36
  I really wanna start to to dig into that.
• 27:39
  And, you know, what showed up on Sunday are all of our biggest fears going into the season with
• 27:46
  Kyler Murray at quarterback.
• 27:48
  The indecisiveness, both with his legs and with his arms, not quite seeing the field both
• 27:55
  physically and, you know, making making his reads.
• 27:58
  The batted balls are gonna continue to be an issue.
• 28:02
  One of them gets tipped and then caught by a defensive lineman.
• 28:05
  How many times are we gonna see that over the course of the year?
• 28:08
  And for a coach that preaches about quite not giving the ball away, to be continuing to put a
• 28:15
  guy out there where you feel I mean, he's throwing a pick in every game that he's played
• 28:18
  in so far, and he only played 11 snaps in the first one.
• 28:21
  So, it it doesn't instill a lot of a lot of confidence right now in the fan base.
• 28:29
  I think they know that.
• 28:31
  It it's not like they they don't have eyes to see what there is.
• 28:36
  I don't know what they're seeing to be like, oh, this is going to improve.
• 28:40
  Right?
• 28:41
  What is going on?
• 28:43
  But that's I would like to know.
• 28:47
  So maybe coach, we'll we'll start with you.
• 28:49
  Are are you seeing anything that maybe we're missing as more just like football fans that
• 28:56
  that gives you confidence that Kyler can maybe be coached up a little bit into, you know,
• 29:03
  making the right read or or what is it?
• 29:07
  I mean, you would hope that he could be coached up.
• 29:11
  It's just, you know, we start the game off opening drive, get that field goal, come back,
• 29:18
  stop him, punt return for a touchdown.
• 29:21
  You're up ten zero.
• 29:23
  Like, that's perfect scenario for Kyler Murray, first game back.
• 29:27
  You know what I'm saying?
• 29:28
  You got the lead.
• 29:30
  You can kinda just ease him into the game.
• 29:33
  I thought that's what they were going to do.
• 29:35
  You know, obviously, I was wrong.
• 29:37
  Those bat balls, it's that's gotta stop.
• 29:39
  It's it's that just it's sickening.
• 29:43
  You know, we were wondering about this.
• 29:46
  We talked about it a couple weeks ago.
• 29:49
  Is KOC able to coach up Murray?
• 29:51
  Is Murray gonna actually take this serious, and learn the playbook, learn the checkdowns,
• 29:58
  audibles, all that?
• 30:00
  You know?
• 30:01
  Can KOC turn, Murray into the quarterback he wants, or does he have to change his way and,
• 30:08
  kinda tailor the offense to Kyler Murray?
• 30:13
  Sully, you go ahead and and jump in here.
• 30:17
  You, no ball.
• 30:19
  I really appreciate you kinda deep dive in the opposing teams for us and always bringing
• 30:23
  something, you know, on that.
• 30:26
  But your kind of assessment of the quarterback play against the buccaneers in this first game
• 30:34
  full game of Kyler Murray on the Vikings?
• 30:37
  I
• 30:39
  mean, it's still early, I guess.
• 30:41
  I I know Vikings fans don't wanna hear that considering, like, there's no pre we don't
• 30:45
  teams don't really play in the preseason anymore, and he did get hurt in the first game.
• 30:49
  So, like, he's still, like, getting into shape, still probably learning the offense a little
• 30:54
  bit.
• 30:54
  So and then he lose, Justin Jefferson in the first quarter.
• 30:58
  So, like, it is a a little early.
• 31:00
  I do think he should, use his legs a little bit more probably because he's just a great athlete
• 31:05
  out there, get more comfortable.
• 31:07
  At the end of the day, he just gotta get the ball to his playmakers.
• 31:10
  Just like, don't you don't have to be the star of this offense.
• 31:13
  You got Justin Jefferson.
• 31:14
  You got Hawkinson out there.
• 31:16
  Just let KOC run the offense.
• 31:18
  Just do do what you can do.
• 31:20
  He's he's always been a great player.
• 31:22
  Coach is right.
• 31:23
  The batted balls should probably they're not a great look.
• 31:26
  I mean, he's not gonna get any taller, so it's probably gonna still happen, unfortunately.
• 31:29
  But I I just think he just has to trust himself and just, eventually, I think it'll come
• 31:36
  because he at the end of the day, he's always been a good player.
• 31:39
  You have a good opponent to go up against with the Dolphins this week.
• 31:42
  Hopefully, if it doesn't if it doesn't look great playing the dolphins this week, then you
• 31:47
  might have to consider a change like like B said.
• 31:51
  Well, B, a great point for you to kinda jump in here as well.
• 31:57
  You know, like he said, Murray's not getting any taller.
• 32:00
  We knew some of the deficiencies that are there.
• 32:03
  Is this more on KOC being unwilling to adjust?
• 32:07
  And we know that some things were added into the playbook, maybe some different schemes,
• 32:12
  these pistol looks, a lot more shotgun.
• 32:15
  But does KOC have to make the adjustment in game and in his play calling to actually make
• 32:22
  those effective?
• 32:23
  Well, and I think he does.
• 32:25
  I think he has to, you know, put his ego aside a little bit, tailor to what KLC or what Kyle
• 32:33
  Murray has done over in Arizona, build on what he could bring to the team on his assets and
• 32:40
  not build on what well, this is what I want you to do in my playbook.
• 32:45
  You know, if if the quarterback can't see over the line, we need to roll him out.
• 32:50
  You know, I I don't mind the pistol formation.
• 32:52
  I don't mind I don't mind that the quarterback's not under center.
• 32:56
  But if he can't see over the line, you can't have him be a pocket passer like somebody was
• 33:01
  just put up there that KLT's still trying to make him a pocket passer.
• 33:05
  You can't.
• 33:06
  He he can't see over the offensive line.
• 33:07
  He's gotta roll out.
• 33:08
  He's got to you know, I don't know if he has to stand where the punter stands to get that long
• 33:13
  of a shotgun.
• 33:14
  I I don't know.
• 33:15
  But KLC definitely has to get to get out of he's gotta he's gotta watch film like Kyler
• 33:22
  Murray and pick out what he does best to put into the offense.
• 33:26
  I just find it to be incredibly difficult for a play caller in the moment with live bullets
• 33:34
  flying to get away from their tendencies.
• 33:37
  Right?
• 33:37
  You, like, you almost have to throw out the 20 plays that he likes calling the best and go
• 33:41
  like, yeah.
• 33:42
  Those aren't on the call sheet this week.
• 33:44
  You're going to have to find other things that have worked for you and that work for your
• 33:49
  quarterback because something needs to happen.
• 33:52
  And and I don't know that, you know, the wolfs are ever going to come down, you know, from the
• 33:58
  front office and to to tell KOC anything like that.
• 34:03
  But you have a guy that has been leading this defense, and you have now people inside of that
• 34:08
  building that have they have experience calling plays and building offenses.
• 34:14
  And around other players, Frank Smith, right, kinda building an offense around, Tua Tonga
• 34:20
  Vailoa, who, you know, is not a prototypical quarterback either.
• 34:24
  So is is that yeah.
• 34:29
  I I just don't know.
• 34:30
  I don't have any faith in it at all.
• 34:32
  For me, KOC is who he is.
• 34:34
  Mhmm.
• 34:35
  He's not going to change those, especially in the game.
• 34:38
  You can start to invite all of the you could start to invite, you know, all of the new play
• 34:45
  and the schemes and different things in there, but I just don't like, a tiger ain't changing
• 34:48
  his stripes.
• 34:49
  Right?
• 34:49
  And and KOC as a play caller just I I don't see as much needs to change in in a week or a few
• 34:56
  weeks.
• 34:56
  I just don't see it happening.
• 34:58
  And this offense really improving as drastically as we want it to, especially by
• 35:03
  next Sunday.
• 35:04
  And with, you know, hopefully, Jettas is back at a 100% by then, we will get an injury report
• 35:10
  until tomorrow and kinda see how those ankles are doing.
• 35:13
  But we saw that this team in the wide receiver room minus the Jettas is is suspect at best.
• 35:21
  Mhmm.
• 35:23
  Well, yeah, with the weapons that, I mean, with Jetta Gun, you got Anderson who, you know,
• 35:29
  dropped a couple balls.
• 35:30
  One was probably throwing short that he had turned around to wait for.
• 35:34
  But, yeah, without Jetta, I mean, we had no pass game or no deep threat, I should say.
• 35:40
  We have a pass game, you know, and then we can't really set up the run because it's a
• 35:45
  short run.
• 35:45
  So, I mean, we don't have that break that running runner that can break it and be scary
• 35:52
  like Adrian Peterson was back in the day.
• 35:54
  So we're missing some big weapons when Jeddah's out of the game.
• 36:00
  Well, and you just you lose the ability for guys to get themselves open.
• 36:07
  And and like I said, Jordan Addison, kind of a one trick pony.
• 36:10
  He's only going to be able to beat you with speed.
• 36:12
  He's not physical off the line.
• 36:15
  I don't think he's the crispest route runner out there either.
• 36:18
  So as soon as a team and this is exactly what Tampa Bay did in the second half where they
• 36:23
  just rolled the two high safeties and said, try it.
• 36:26
  Like, go ahead.
• 36:28
  You know those zones in the too high look that you have to get the ball to, and they just
• 36:32
  dared you to throw to those areas.
• 36:35
  And we really didn't have an answer.
• 36:37
  Hence, the three and outs consistently, the inaccuracies of Kyler Murray's throws, you
• 36:43
  know, when they're not getting batted down.
• 36:45
  They're not, you know, landing where they should.
• 36:47
  So there there's a lot of answers here.
• 36:50
  Maybe they get some help in a new running back joining the team.
• 36:54
  I don't know if he's gonna be ready for action on Sunday, but Devin Neal coming over and
• 37:00
  helping that running back room out that's getting thinner and thinner, especially as you
• 37:06
  talk about piling up the carries on a, you know, 30 year old running back in Aaron Jones
• 37:11
  who performing admirably, but you can't continue to ask this guy to go out there and to
• 37:16
  give you twenty, twenty five carries a game and and expect him to be able to hold up to that
• 37:22
  kind of abuse.
• 37:28
  You got any yeah.
• 37:29
  B, you got anything more on Devin Neal?
• 37:32
  I know you were kinda looking him up.
• 37:33
  No.
• 37:33
  Looking at the profile
• 37:34
  of our running back.
• 37:37
  From Kansas.
• 37:39
  Actually, had a pretty good I mean, I didn't know who he was until I looked him up.
• 37:44
  I mean, until I saw the trade and be like, okay.
• 37:45
  Who's this guy?
• 37:47
  But he went to Kansas.
• 37:48
  Let me pull up his college stats here.
• 37:52
  Drafted last year's fifth round by the Saints who, you know, one team I would judge good
• 37:57
  running back by would be the Saints if they're, you know, drafted running backs.
• 38:03
  He's five eleven, two two thirteen, had a four five forty.
• 38:10
  His college stats, he racked up in four years of playing, 4,343 yards, 49 touchdowns.
• 38:20
  Most of that over the last two years, like, 15 touchdowns apiece.
• 38:26
  He cuts a little bit out of the backfield.
• 38:29
  Definitely, it looks like the center kinda use it more as a a return guy, which we don't need,
• 38:35
  but so he's got the speed.
• 38:37
  He's got the ability to break them.
• 38:41
  So I say let's give him some cheap replays, and let's see what he can do.
• 38:49
  Zelly, anything on on Devin Neal, or are you kind of did you see him play at all in college
• 38:57
  or otherwise?
• 38:59
  A little bit.
• 39:00
  Great college running back for sure.
• 39:02
  Don't know exactly what he'll bring to the offense, but Akalaji was a really great,
• 39:07
  offensive player.
• 39:08
  Him and Jalen Daniels were really good together.
• 39:11
  I I think he might be able to bring some juice to your offense.
• 39:16
  Yeah.
• 39:16
  I mean, it's just important that we added to that running back, room.
• 39:22
  Like you said, Aaron Jones, we can't try to give him 20 carries for the rest of the season.
• 39:27
  He's just not gonna hold up.
• 39:29
  You know?
• 39:30
  He he's already, you know, taking days off at practice, trying to heal up from the week
• 39:35
  before.
• 39:36
  So, I mean, I'm interested to see what kind of packages and how we use them.
• 39:42
  Yeah.
• 39:43
  Barbara, great point here.
• 39:44
  Why are we running Claiborne up the middle like he is Mason?
• 39:46
  Claiborne is faster on the outside.
• 39:48
  The usage on Sunday of when you had these guys in in the packages.
• 39:53
  I I just feel like KOC is always trying to, like, overthink things.
• 39:58
  Just put players in a position to go do what they do.
• 40:01
  Instead of trying to be the smartest guy in the room and like, oh, we're gonna put Klayburn in.
• 40:05
  They think we're gonna run it outside, so we're gonna come in.
• 40:07
  You know what it reminds me of?
• 40:08
  It reminds me of Henry Winkler's character in the water boy.
• 40:13
  Right?
• 40:13
  When when the guy's in his head and he's like, no.
• 40:16
  We're gonna fake the fake.
• 40:17
  We're gonna make them think that we're faking the fake and then, oh, I need to sit down.
• 40:22
  Right?
• 40:23
  That's that's KOC when when he's trying to to come up with this stuff.
• 40:28
  It just it's mind blowing to me.
• 40:30
  Just get the guys out there.
• 40:32
  Let them do what they do best.
• 40:36
  Put everyone in the position.
• 40:37
  And if that means more sprint out and roll out action from Kyler Murray, and that's against
• 40:44
  what your beliefs are.
• 40:45
  I mean, they refuse to do it for JJ when we know that cutting the field down to half for a
• 40:50
  young quarterback can help them to see the field better.
• 40:55
  At some point, it's on the coach.
• 40:56
  And and, know, it's skull and yeah.
• 40:59
  K o no.
• 41:00
  The fuck
• 41:01
  Guys, can we drop that?
• 41:02
  I mean, he is not that perfect whisper.
• 41:06
  I say ban the neck first because that brings that up.
• 41:11
  Forever ban.
• 41:13
  Yeah.
• 41:13
  No.
• 41:14
  I mean, we knew that Kyler was gonna have some struggles.
• 41:18
  Everyone was making this big deal about him being able to extend the plays and all that,
• 41:23
  and no one realizes he has to.
• 41:26
  He has to roll out and extend the plays so then he can actually see, the wide receivers.
• 41:32
  I mean, he's gotta pick it up.
• 41:36
  Something's gotta give.
• 41:36
  Either he takes more serious and, you know, steps it up or KOC, you know, kinda has some
• 41:44
  humble pie.
• 41:46
  Yeah.
• 41:46
  And, Luke, I know you're kinda new to what we do.
• 41:51
  We are extremely hard on the players, but everybody has accountability inside of this.
• 41:55
  Kyler Murray has to
• 41:56
  be Nobody's saying.
• 41:57
  And and I have no, you know, no patience for it.
• 42:02
  I'm not playing the it's early and he's gotta get settled in.
• 42:06
  Dude's been in the league for seven years.
• 42:09
  He he he has to figure this out.
• 42:10
  He should have had it figured out.
• 42:12
  They kinda let us on to believe that he had it figured out and he would be good to go.
• 42:17
  Obviously, the concussion, they were kinda blaming the concussion for him not necessarily
• 42:21
  being really, like, up to speed and and having those things.
• 42:25
  So we're not making any excuses for these players, but the coach bears some
• 42:30
  responsibility, when he is the play caller.
• 42:33
  Right?
• 42:33
  So you have to put those, players in a position to succeed and players succeed, in what they
• 42:40
  do.
• 42:40
  You can't ask a guy that has the breakaway speed on the outside.
• 42:44
  That's what he's always done and been successful with.
• 42:46
  And then asking him to run it up the middle, especially someone that you're worried about
• 42:49
  ball control with.
• 42:50
  It just doesn't make a lot of sense at the end of the day.
• 42:53
  But, yeah, the player's gotta be better too.
• 42:56
  Right?
• 42:56
  You know, Jordan Addison, if you're not gonna have Jettis, has to find a way to get open more
• 43:02
  consistently.
• 43:03
  You know?
• 43:03
  And that goes for Jawan Jennings as well.
• 43:06
  Huge, huge loss with Josh Oliver going out probably for the rest of the season.
• 43:12
  I don't know with the bicep if they can have surgery.
• 43:14
  Maybe he would be available, you know, week week seventeen, eighteen possible playoff,
• 43:19
  run-in there, but that's a massive loss, not just in the passing game, where he's already
• 43:23
  caught a few balls and has leaked out and to make that, but he's he's huge in our running
• 43:29
  game, and and that's gonna be a lot bigger loss than I think a lot of people are talking about
• 43:33
  right now.
• 43:34
  And you could kinda hear it in in coach, when he was on with, PA today for their x's and o's
• 43:40
  segment.
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  And it's it's gonna change the look of this offense, unfortunately.
• 43:50
  Yeah.
• 43:50
  I know Josh Oliver, I mean, he's he's overall really good player.
• 43:55
  Great teammate.
• 43:56
  He came came in run blocking and does an amazing job doing that.
• 44:01
  Opens up, you know, opens up lanes and helps our running rushing attack.
• 44:06
  But the thing I love about him is, you know, teams never really expect him to be a catching
• 44:13
  threat, a receiving threat.
• 44:15
  But, I mean, he's able to, get check downs or them short passes and fight for two, three,
• 44:22
  four, five yards and pick up extra first downs and just helping key moments.
• 44:26
  So it's gonna be it's a huge loss.
• 44:31
  Yeah.
• 44:32
  He's out for at least four games because he's on IR.
• 44:35
  So we don't have him so he'll actually miss technically three games because he'll miss the
• 44:41
  two of the bye week.
• 44:43
  And then the so he could be back for the bill game, which could be kind of helpful.
• 44:49
  Yeah.
• 44:49
  Angelo, we talk a lot about that ego issue, on on this channel, for sure.
• 44:56
  And and I am someone who likes what KOC brings to the table as a head coach culture builder.
• 45:03
  I have a major problem with him as a play caller for the reason that, you know, Barbara
• 45:09
  kind of brought up is the the the shotgun on third and two instead of just lining up,
• 45:15
  playing some smash mouth football, and getting it.
• 45:18
  Now we have seen him be a little bit better in that regard so far through three games, you
• 45:23
  know, this season, but it's also different when you have Kyler Murray in that position when he
• 45:31
  goes under center because you don't really have that threat now of him passing the ball.
• 45:37
  Right?
• 45:38
  So you lose that dual threat because teams believe, on a short yardage, that they're not
• 45:43
  worried about him.
• 45:44
  They know they're gonna be able to their hands up because he's not gonna be able to deep get
• 45:48
  deep enough into the pocket to be able to throw over the top to to get a quick completion.
• 45:54
  So, you know, Kyler Murray is honestly is making this offense more one dimensional than
• 46:02
  what you were being able to roll out with Carson Wentz.
• 46:06
  Well and and that's the thing is if you put I mean, coach, maybe you could testify to this.
• 46:11
  But if you put Kyler Murray on the center, you're thinking run right out the best.
• 46:15
  So third and two, which typically would be a a decent running pull down, you know it's gonna
• 46:23
  be a run play because Calamari is small.
• 46:25
  Now if you put him in the shotgun or where he's not on the center, now you're kinda thinking,
• 46:29
  okay.
• 46:29
  Is it gonna be a run play?
• 46:31
  Is it gonna be a pass play?
• 46:32
  Yeah.
• 46:33
  You're kinda thinking.
• 46:33
  I mean, am I around coach, or is that kinda what you would be thinking?
• 46:38
  I mean, yes.
• 46:39
  That's what I'm thinking.
• 46:40
  If I'm on defense, third and two like that, Kyler's under center, like, I'm thinking run.
• 46:46
  But, I mean, offensively, you you gotta line it up and, hey.
• 46:52
  Best man wins.
• 46:53
  I'm coming right at you.
• 46:54
  We're gonna run it down your throat.
• 46:56
  You better stop it.
• 46:57
  Yeah.
• 46:58
  Which on Sunday against, you know, Vito Vey is just, I mean, he's a massive human being.
• 47:03
  He really clogs up that middle.
• 47:05
  Just a a a phenomenal athlete for someone that big.
• 47:11
  Running yards were tough to come by because Tampa Bay can clog up that middle.
• 47:15
  That's not the last time we're gonna see teams that have a defensive front like that.
• 47:20
  So we need to have some answers.
• 47:22
  We need to and I think the way that you do this and coach, I'll kind of have you let me know if
• 47:27
  I'm on the right path here.
• 47:28
  But is there something to stretching those out with the outside zone runs and getting those
• 47:33
  getting those big guys having to kinda chase the play a little bit, especially and sticking
• 47:39
  with that to kinda wear them out so that you can maybe get some penetration later in the
• 47:44
  game when you do need a yard or two on that side.
• 47:48
  Yeah.
• 47:49
  I mean, get them moving.
• 47:50
  Get the big boys moving.
• 47:52
  Get them huffing and puffing and get the subs in.
• 47:54
  That's when you take your chance.
• 47:56
  But, you know, you know, run to the outside like Claiborne.
• 48:00
  Run them to the outside.
• 48:02
  You know, we I think we could have opened up a lot more, opportunities for the running game
• 48:07
  had we done that.
• 48:10
  Selly, you got eyes on the, the Yankees and Red Sox game?
• 48:14
  I do.
• 48:15
  It's a big game in New York.
• 48:17
  Yeah.
• 48:17
  Big night.
• 48:18
  The Liberty are playing, the lynx, the Minnesota lynx, the Yankees, Red Sox.
• 48:22
  It's a huge night.
• 48:23
  Elimination game for
• 48:25
  the news.
• 48:25
  Right.
• 48:25
  Yeah.
• 48:25
  NBA season firing up.
• 48:28
  For those of you new, Selly's a new cohost on the network.
• 48:32
  He's gonna be helping me with the new basketball show that we're starting, The Rim
• 48:37
  Report.
• 48:37
  We're gonna have our first stream tomorrow afternoon, evening.
• 48:41
  I don't know exactly what time we're gonna go yet.
• 48:44
  I'll let Selly know at some point tomorrow.
• 48:46
  But really excited to get some basketball talk on here as well, and then we're gonna be
• 48:50
  kicking off a hockey show as soon as I can find someone to help me host that and drop some
• 48:56
  knowledge on us in that realm.
• 48:58
  Our sports network different than other channels, especially ones that we all follow
• 49:04
  where this isn't specific to just the Minnesota Vikings or football. It it is
• 49:08
  It it is really covering all sports and all different kinds of stuff.
• 49:11
  So make sure you guys tap back in with us if you love talking other sports as well like a
• 49:16
  lot of us do.
• 49:17
  But, yeah, one o Yanks still.
• 49:19
  I know that's gonna make Selly a happy man if they can hang on in this one.
• 49:24
  My cubs are gonna be playing here very soon out in San Diego.
• 49:28
  That game with a 09:00 central time start, pretty wild.
• 49:31
  Yeah.
• 49:33
  I'm not watching all of it.
• 49:34
  I'll I'll see you in morning.
• 49:36
  Heated up or else they're gonna be out of it.
• 49:40
  Yep.
• 49:40
  Well, we'll see.
• 49:41
  You know, big time players make big time plays.
• 49:44
  PCA going forty five and forty one this year.
• 49:47
  Pretty historic.
• 49:48
  One of only five players in history to do it.
• 49:51
  That's pretty pretty incredible stuff.
• 49:53
  But back to the football, we got a big game coming up against Miami this week.
• 49:58
  The offense has to get right.
• 50:00
  I think they got an awesome chance to do that against the Miami team that, not great.
• 50:06
  Obviously, I don't I don't think any team in the league are are, you know, slouches, and
• 50:10
  anyone could beat anyone.
• 50:12
  Look at what Case Keenum did last night against the Eagles.
• 50:16
  But now moving into this week, Selly, I guess I'll kinda start with you.
• 50:22
  What can we, you know, expect from this Miami team now?
• 50:26
  I'm assuming I know Akane went out during the game.
• 50:31
  It like that was serious enough to keep him out of the rest of that game.
• 50:35
  I didn't see anything.
• 50:36
  Did they rule him out immediately for the next game as well?
• 50:42
  Mean nodding your head.
• 50:43
  So
• 50:44
  Yeah.
• 50:45
  He's on HR.
• 50:47
  No Devin Hachan.
• 50:48
  He's out for the season with a torn ACL, which which is a for them because he's, like,
• 50:52
  basically their best player on offense.
• 50:54
  They might have the worst receivers in the league with all due respect.
• 50:59
  I mean, their best receiver might be Jalen Tolbert, and that's he was, like, the third
• 51:03
  receiver on Dallas, like, a couple years ago.
• 51:06
  He's a good receiver, but he's not, like, a number one.
• 51:08
  It's like, they're unfortunately, they they might be tanking this year. I
• 51:12
  I I don't know if if they wanna win.
• 51:15
  I mean, they're paying Tua, Jalen Waddle, and Chubb to basically not play for them this year.
• 51:24
  Yeah.
• 51:24
  No.
• 51:25
  That's We'll
• 51:26
  get them back.
• 51:26
  But yeah.
• 51:27
  And and is that does that create a a little bit of it makes it weird.
• 51:37
  Right?
• 51:38
  If Miami is tanking, what can we trust if the offense does get going this week against them?
• 51:46
  Right?
• 51:46
  You're playing against the team who doesn't wanna win if the offense does all of a sudden
• 51:51
  go out. And
• 51:51
  And I don't think that they have to be, like, crazy good, you know, rap on his show and and
• 51:58
  bless him was, you know, I expect Murray to, you know, at some point this season go out and
• 52:02
  throw for 350 yards and four touchdowns.
• 52:06
  I just, like, real quickly went and looked it up.
• 52:09
  And and Kyler Murray in a 100 plus starts now has only thrown for 350 yards five times, and
• 52:17
  he's never thrown for three fifty and four touchdowns.
• 52:20
  So the expectation is, can Kyler Murray maybe go out and generate 250 yards total?
• 52:26
  And some of that can be with his legs.
• 52:28
  The you know, you get another maybe 100 yards out of the the offense.
• 52:32
  Can the offense go generate 300 yards of offense against the team?
• 52:37
  You know the defense is gonna show up.
• 52:39
  If you get within anywhere, you know, pretty much on the other side of the 50, you're kinda
• 52:45
  trusting the leg of Will Reichardt to say, you know, go and put some points on the board.
• 52:50
  So we're you know, be hey.
• 52:54
  There you go.
• 52:54
  I like the b flow revenge game angle.
• 52:59
  Yeah.
• 52:59
  Chevy, the that's what's funny is the bar is so low.
• 53:02
  Right?
• 53:03
  200 yards and a tutty is all
• 53:05
  I want.
• 53:05
  And
• 53:06
  and it's so, yeah, it's so interesting to me and not to not to kinda bring up he who shall
• 53:14
  not be named again, but we were we were all over the kid when all he could do was generate
• 53:22
  200 and a touchdown.
• 53:24
  And now we're literally here a year later, and we're like, we just wanna we just want that.
• 53:30
  And it's like, well, you you have that.
• 53:32
  Right?
• 53:32
  But Yeah.
• 53:33
  And the thing
• 53:34
  is just I mean,
• 53:35
  going into the game, Kyle Murray is one on one, Kyrgyz, Miami.
• 53:42
  But this is the game, as we joke around, say Kyle Murray has never done this, or what's the
• 53:47
  offense gonna look like if they do put us a point?
• 53:49
  I think this is the game where we need that offense to come out of him, ball out, and be
• 53:55
  excited that they put up these stats.
• 53:58
  B Flo's defense, we know is gonna do their thing.
• 54:01
  So, I mean, the Vikings are favored by 10 in this game.
• 54:05
  So they gotta go on the half.
• 54:07
  I think it led somebody to
• 54:09
  say.
• 54:09
  Yeah.
• 54:09
  You're right.
• 54:10
  Yeah.
• 54:10
  That that's crazy considering that our offense hasn't scored 10 and a half points Yeah.
• 54:17
  In two of their three games.
• 54:19
  So that's interesting.
• 54:21
  Maybe they think the special teams are going to score another touchdown in that
• 54:26
  Montgomery stat against Miami, 590 yards, five touchdowns, no picks.
• 54:33
  I think they think it's the dolphins the last three weeks have lost by double digits.
• 54:38
  The first week, they 27 to 13 to the raiders.
• 54:42
  Second week, 35, 13 to the 40.
• 54:45
  Last week, 24 to 10 to the chiefs.
• 54:47
  Because they've they've lost by double digits both weeks.
• 54:50
  They only have three total touchdowns on the whole
• 54:52
  year.
• 54:53
  Yeah.
• 54:53
  1,001
• 54:55
  They're not gonna score.
• 54:56
  They
• 54:57
  may
• 54:57
  not score.
• 54:59
  You know what?
• 54:59
  The two e, I'm a let you in here.
• 55:01
  Take your shots at McCarthy.
• 55:03
  The the era is over.
• 55:05
  Like I said, I'm gonna miss your poetry here, but I think Kyler Murray is gonna give you
• 55:09
  plenty of ammunition moving into the rest of this season too.
• 55:15
  And I honestly, I think McCarthy would struggle with girls flag football.
• 55:18
  Have you seen some of the women that play on those teams?
• 55:21
  Well, I think he would struggle with the women's professional league outside of
• 55:24
  professional football.
• 55:25
  So
• 55:29
  So, yeah, Miami and and I this feels, once again, you know, trap game, a little early to
• 55:38
  throw that away, but I do feel it's like a little bit of a trap even if you even if you
• 55:42
  win and the offense looks a a little better.
• 55:46
  Right, they do generate to me, that's the trap is that you're like, oh, we're good.
• 55:51
  And then you're gonna go in and play a saints team, who I think is, obviously a lot better
• 55:54
  than Miami, and you're gonna play them in New Orleans, and you're liable to get smacked
• 55:59
  around a little bit again.
• 56:01
  And I think that is, the fear of the trap.
• 56:04
  Not that you're going to lose the game, but that you're gonna get a little baby of fool's
• 56:08
  gold from the offense because Miami is just so terrible and really not wanting to win at all
• 56:15
  this season.
• 56:17
  So Yeah.
• 56:18
  Good.
• 56:18
  Good.
• 56:19
  Good.
• 56:20
  Good.
• 56:21
  Good.
• 56:22
  Good.
• 56:27
  Down there.
• 56:27
  I mean, the season's not going how they wanted to.
• 56:31
  They got a first year head coach, 30 new or 32 new players on the team, test 10 plus rookies.
• 56:39
  You know, three wide receivers drafted in the first five rounds.
• 56:45
  Two of them started week one.
• 56:46
  So, yeah, they they got a lot of work to do.
• 56:50
  This could be a trap game.
• 56:51
  If we do do good, it's gonna be fool's gold.
• 56:54
  I'm interested to see how we do already for the saints, but we gotta get past the dolphins
• 57:00
  first.
• 57:02
  So be it that we're considered as a trap game and worst things happen, could we see a
• 57:09
  coaching change before the next game?
• 57:13
  No.
• 57:14
  I just I don't I don't believe that's going to happen.
• 57:17
  I don't think the wolves have a stomach for it.
• 57:20
  I I I think a lot of fan base the fan base would be there with that, but it just doesn't
• 57:25
  seem like that that's gonna be on the table at all this year regardless of how
• 57:29
  this team I mean, got three and you got up to
• 57:32
  a three and o start.
• 57:33
  Right?
• 57:33
  Oh, yeah.
• 57:34
  You got the three and o curveball.
• 57:35
  Three, it'd be a different story.
• 57:38
  Yeah.
• 57:38
  But you got the three and o start.
• 57:40
  You go up and, you know, let's say you laid egg, knock on wood against Miami.
• 57:45
  Then you got the surprising saves, you know, and then you got your bye week.
• 57:49
  So, I mean, these two weeks, if turns out negative, could look different for KLC coming
• 57:55
  out of the bye week.
• 57:57
  You know?
• 57:58
  I think the Vikings should just use this as a get right game.
• 58:01
  Like, I still like I said, Kyler's still getting used to the offense.
• 58:04
  It's just you gotta get used to Justin.
• 58:06
  You gotta get used to Addison, Hockinson, and this you have to at least see it to believe it.
• 58:12
  So at least
• 58:12
  Well, that's that's what I've I I would tell you at this point where this game has to be the
• 58:17
  game where we just go out there and make Miami look like Buffalo did against the Lions
• 58:25
  Thursday night a couple weeks ago where we're just scoring every time we got the ball.
• 58:28
  Yeah.
• 58:30
  If it's 13 to 10, then I would start yeah.
• 58:33
  Then I would really be really concerned.
• 58:34
  Yeah.
• 58:35
  Yeah.
• 58:35
  But I don't I think Miami's really that bad, unfortunately.
• 58:39
  Yep.
• 58:40
  Yeah.
• 58:41
  It can't be a low score game.
• 58:42
  This has to be Vikings putting up some major number game.
• 58:47
  At least three touchdowns.
• 58:49
  Yeah.
• 58:50
  And
• 58:51
  maybe that Harrison Smith intercepted for a touchdown.
• 58:55
  From the offense, like, not not three touchdowns because Right.
• 58:58
  Yes.
• 58:59
  Miles Price returned to Oh, yeah.
• 59:01
  You had a pick six.
• 59:02
  Yeah.
• 59:03
  No.
• 59:03
  I know you said three on rushing.
• 59:05
  Touchdowns.
• 59:08
  Are you guys Well,
• 59:09
  and and it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with that rushing attack, especially if
• 59:14
  this game goes, how how we think it will and to be that, does a Damon Claiborne get more
• 59:19
  touches is you know, I don't I know DJ Dallas got into the game last week.
• 59:24
  Correct?
• 59:24
  He wasn't inactive, so he was out there.
• 59:26
  Had a couple of snaps on some things.
• 59:28
  But with a toe injury, I don't think he's really getting carries and running the ball
• 59:32
  more in there as a you know, just to kinda soak up some blocks when you obviously don't trust
• 59:38
  them on Claiborne to do that, and you have to give Aaron Jones a rest sometimes.
• 59:44
  So there it's gonna be interesting whether Devin Neal gets into the system early enough
• 59:50
  right now, signed today.
• 59:52
  Is he in the building already?
• 59:54
  Right?
• 59:54
  Was was he there, you know, within a couple hours after the the signing and ready to go and
• 1:00:00
  in practice this week, and you're able to get him I mean, not a lot of touches, but is he
• 1:00:04
  coming in and getting, you know, two or three touches in the backfield this week?
• 1:00:08
  Damon Claiborne getting a handful in some trying to stretch the the outside zone plays a
• 1:00:14
  little bit and to really go out and and challenge the offense.
• 1:00:18
  And to me, that's what this game is all about.
• 1:00:20
  It's about challenging the offense to perform better than they have and not just a little
• 1:00:28
  better.
• 1:00:29
  Right?
• 1:00:29
  It's easy to be a little better because it's been so bad to to really show us something.
• 1:00:34
  The the the three touchdowns, I think, is probably a good mark on that.
• 1:00:37
  Go match what Carson Wentz did against Steve's backers in week one, right, to go put up and
• 1:00:44
  they don't all have to come through the air.
• 1:00:46
  So we're we're gonna find out a lot about this team this week even though we are favored by 10
• 1:00:53
  and a half points, which just seems kind of kind of absurd this early in the season.
• 1:00:57
  But let's let's go best that.
• 1:01:01
  Right?
• 1:01:02
  Let's go cover that completely and go go stick it to Miami so that we can start preparing for,
• 1:01:09
  you know, what I think is gonna be a a lot more of a battle against the Saints.
• 1:01:13
  And then you have the bye week, and then you have a a really good chance at that point to
• 1:01:18
  settle in.
• 1:01:19
  Essentially, you have two weeks of preparation for your next game because coming back from the
• 1:01:23
  bye, this team kinda hits a little bit of a gauntlet, and and you're not gonna be able to
• 1:01:28
  put up the offensive performances that you have and expect to beat teams like the Bills, even
• 1:01:33
  even the Lions who who can force this, you know, force us into a little bit of a a
• 1:01:39
  shootout with them.
• 1:01:41
  I know it wasn't that way Christmas day last year, but it's it has to be better.
• 1:01:46
  I hope it gets better because otherwise, it's gonna be really, really tough to watch for not
• 1:01:51
  just the next couple of weeks, but maybe the rest of the season.
• 1:01:54
  I'm not like I'm not someone who's like, put Carson in right now and I'm ride or die with
• 1:01:59
  Carson Wentz either.
• 1:02:01
  We've seen Carson be really bad last year as well and not be everything that we can be.
• 1:02:08
  Is a a trade looming on the horizon for another QB that's out there?
• 1:02:12
  Who knows?
• 1:02:13
  I think anything's on the table if this offense sputters this week.
• 1:02:19
  Not few, but I think if the offense sputters, there's gonna be a lot of talk, especially
• 1:02:25
  who's gonna be under center, the running backs.
• 1:02:29
  That's why this game is, like Sully said, it's it's a game that they gotta go and make it look
• 1:02:36
  easy.
• 1:02:37
  Like and we're the fan base is talking about it a lot, and that's why I kinda wanna ask the
• 1:02:41
  chat and especially, you know, Tuey and Luke and Barbara and all you guys that keep, you
• 1:02:46
  know, chiming in with us week over week.
• 1:02:48
  We're talking a lot about them putting in Carson Wentz, but do you feel like the coaching
• 1:02:53
  staff and this kinda goes out to everybody.
• 1:02:55
  Do you feel like the coaching staff is inclined to sit Kyler down and to start Carson Wentz if
• 1:03:02
  it doesn't get going?
• 1:03:05
  I'll start
• 1:03:05
  it out.
• 1:03:06
  I I don't think so.
• 1:03:07
  I think I think they are set there.
• 1:03:10
  They went into the season as Kyler Murray, as long as he's not injured, is the guy.
• 1:03:17
  But again, you start getting the boo birds out there and a lot of bad media.
• 1:03:22
  Maybe they will step up and be like, hey, guys.
• 1:03:24
  I know we got a winning record with Tyler, but he's not putting up stuff.
• 1:03:27
  We're winning these games because well, well, the thrill is kicking us here.
• 1:03:33
  We gotta give Cartier once a shot.
• 1:03:36
  So but I think it's do or die with Kyle and Murray this year.
• 1:03:41
  Steve, I'm I wouldn't hesitate to, put in WENS.
• 1:03:46
  I mean, you don't become two and o without WENS.
• 1:03:49
  Didn't
• 1:03:50
  believe you
• 1:03:50
  knew what you needed them to.
• 1:03:52
  You know?
• 1:03:52
  You you know what you're getting.
• 1:03:55
  And, yeah, put some put some fire under his ass.
• 1:04:01
  You know?
• 1:04:01
  Make him make him get a reality check.
• 1:04:05
  I agree.
• 1:04:05
  And Cody, you're oh, go go, Sully.
• 1:04:09
  I just think because you're only you're not paying him.
• 1:04:11
  He's only on a one year deal.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah.
• 1:04:13
  So, like,
• 1:04:13
  you gotta you gotta do what's right for the team.
• 1:04:15
  If you think it's Kyler, you ride with Kyler.
• 1:04:18
  If think it's Carson, you you ride with Carson.
• 1:04:20
  I just think because you're not paying Kyler any money, you didn't draft him, he's not your
• 1:04:25
  future.
• 1:04:25
  Well, he might be, he might not be.
• 1:04:27
  You don't know.
• 1:04:28
  But if he's tank if he's not playing well, you don't owe him anything.
• 1:04:31
  Correct.
• 1:04:32
  That's definitely been my point is that we don't owe any allegiance to a Kyler Murray
• 1:04:38
  whatsoever.
• 1:04:40
  I don't know what's being said, you know, to him behind what they say openly is that Kyler
• 1:04:45
  Murray gives us the best chance to win.
• 1:04:48
  It gives us the ability to do some different things out there.
• 1:04:54
  But I just if you're not seeing it and the offense and the play caller isn't putting the
• 1:05:00
  players in that position, then what choice do you have but to, like Luke says here, cut the
• 1:05:08
  umbilical cord on Kyler and and let it go.
• 1:05:12
  Right?
• 1:05:13
  And whether you're just cutting him outright or you're maybe looking for a trade partner for
• 1:05:18
  Kyler Murray as well, like, how wild would that be that this Vikings team trades away two
• 1:05:24
  quarterbacks before the deadline, getting some and stacking some draft capital.
• 1:05:29
  Now if Kyler sucks, I don't know what you're gonna get from him.
• 1:05:32
  You may not even get the fifth round pick that you got for JJ McCarthy because you don't have
• 1:05:39
  like, the only reason we got a fifth round pick and we didn't end up just cutting his ass is
• 1:05:43
  because a team was desperate, and you happen to have Jim Harbaugh's brother coaching in
• 1:05:49
  I think the second part, which you just said, Bubba, what first part.
• 1:05:56
  I think think the guys make that trade unless Harbaugh is talking to Harbaugh and be like,
• 1:06:05
  hey.
• 1:06:06
  I'll give you the inside of McCarthy.
• 1:06:08
  You go get him.
• 1:06:09
  He's worth the fifth round pick, and then you guys could develop him.
• 1:06:13
  So I'll give you guys a
• 1:06:16
  little bit opportunity. Of
• 1:06:16
  Of Yeah.
• 1:06:21
  Barbara says go get Joe Milton off of the practice squad.
• 1:06:25
  You know, there there
• 1:06:25
  are guys out there.
• 1:06:27
  Next year.
• 1:06:28
  I mean
• 1:06:28
  Yeah.
• 1:06:29
  Yeah.
• 1:06:29
  Well, then Nolan Teasley definitely left the doors open in that.
• 1:06:33
  And maybe this is a good point.
• 1:06:34
  I'm gonna see if I can grab that file that you sent over the Well, and the
• 1:06:38
  other thing is, you know, we go into next year.
• 1:06:41
  I mean, whatever whatever happens this year, I mean, we're very talking about the Calamari
• 1:06:47
  balls out.
• 1:06:48
  He's gonna get bake he's gonna get Baker Mayfield money.
• 1:06:51
  Do we wanna pay that?
• 1:06:52
  Wentz is a good veteran, but he's getting up there in age.
• 1:06:55
  He's been injured probably.
• 1:06:57
  Do we want that?
• 1:06:57
  We got Max Brosner, number three right now.
• 1:07:01
  It was very, very, very, very tough to watch him play last year.
• 1:07:05
  So going into 2028, are we gonna have three new quarterbacks under center, or is one of these
• 1:07:11
  guys, maybe two of these guys gonna be back next year?
• 1:07:14
  I mean, coach, I mean, what are you thinking, you know, long term right now after this
• 1:07:19
  season?
• 1:07:20
  I think definitely one of the three quarterbacks will be back on this roster.
• 1:07:25
  I'm leaning towards Brozmer, just because KOC loves him so much, that Minnesota background.
• 1:07:33
  I would love to have at least two, having Kyler be that odd man out, You know?
• 1:07:37
  Whether he if he does and this is just a rental year in my opinion.
• 1:07:41
  Mean, he he do good, ball out, earn your money.
• 1:07:44
  It's not gonna be here.
• 1:07:47
  The thing about Kyler is, like, he's such an elite athlete.
• 1:07:50
  The problem is with all the injuries and, you said, be getting older, once he loses that,
• 1:07:56
  then what really is he?
• 1:07:58
  He's not really a pocket passer.
• 1:08:00
  So that's that's the problem.
• 1:08:01
  Do you wanna invest in a guy I mean, he he's a great athlete.
• 1:08:05
  Obviously, he was drafted in the top in two different sports.
• 1:08:07
  But if he once he loses his running ability, it's not and like coach said, he's short.
• 1:08:12
  Those batted balls, maybe a Mac Jones would fit in this offense better.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah.
• 1:08:18
  Once Well, and the thing is is, I mean, Callum Murray hasn't touched the ball and bat since
• 1:08:24
  his college days.
• 1:08:25
  I mean, outside a few times, he's probably practiced with Oakland.
• 1:08:29
  Oakland was walking him in in the shade.
• 1:08:31
  He's like, hey.
• 1:08:31
  If he doesn't find a team, we'll bring him in.
• 1:08:34
  We'll let him play some ball and get to where he wants to be.
• 1:08:37
  So Boobah.
• 1:08:38
  Yeah.
• 1:08:39
  So yeah.
• 1:08:40
  So the ball is blowing up right now.
• 1:08:42
  Next year's free agencies as of two days ago.
• 1:08:46
  And on the other side, he's got the 2027 draft class as of a cup yesterday, as a matter of
• 1:08:53
  fact.
• 1:08:54
  Well, if these aren't organized by, like, our rankings or anything, so we're paid on it.
• 1:08:58
  It's ranked by age.
• 1:09:00
  Yes.
• 1:09:01
  It is ranked by age.
• 1:09:03
  Because it was ranked by salary, and I didn't want that.
• 1:09:05
  So but
• 1:09:07
  So, I mean, you you see the names that are on here.
• 1:09:09
  These are guys that are gonna be free agents next year.
• 1:09:12
  We do have a shot, and you do have the QB class coming in.
• 1:09:15
  I don't wanna see this team draft another quarterback, just simply for the fact that I
• 1:09:21
  don't think they have the stomach for it.
• 1:09:23
  This team is built to win now.
• 1:09:25
  So you're you're looking at this group of guys here that you know, who can we get?
• 1:09:30
  Carson Wentz, I KOC loves him.
• 1:09:33
  Right?
• 1:09:34
  Yeah.
• 1:09:34
  And he knows the offense.
• 1:09:36
  I think there's a decent chance that Carson Wentz not only back on the team next year, but
• 1:09:41
  if he can stay healthy this year and and has to come in and continue to, you know, perform
• 1:09:48
  admirably over that, we got there.
• 1:09:50
  Mac Jones is on this list as well.
• 1:09:52
  I would be interested to see if he makes it to free agency without somebody land there.
• 1:10:02
  Lot of Mac Jones, obviously, talk around there.
• 1:10:05
  I mean, I
• 1:10:06
  Bring back Cam Newton.
• 1:10:08
  I mean, the thing is is, once on this list, there's probably one quarterback that I would
• 1:10:13
  take over the ten year mark.
• 1:10:17
  Because we need to start getting some guys that are young.
• 1:10:21
  I don't know if Mac Jones is another j JJ, but It's not good, Angelo.
• 1:10:27
  It's not good.
• 1:10:29
  And Arnold rolls 40 niners back up.
• 1:10:32
  Know, things lightning in a bottle twice.
• 1:10:34
  Twice.
• 1:10:35
  I mean, I definitely I mean, I wouldn't mind seeing somebody brought up Melton.
• 1:10:40
  I I definitely wouldn't wanna trade.
• 1:10:43
  I mean, Aaron O'Connell's not getting the time and with the raiders.
• 1:10:49
  Trey Lance, another Minnesota kid via North North Dakota, that might be an option there.
• 1:11:00
  I wouldn't hate Will Levis idea.
• 1:11:02
  I mean, I know he's not done nothing in Tennessee, but, hey, you know, maybe another
• 1:11:09
  new scenery for him.
• 1:11:11
  I know I know our boy Kevin Cherry would definitely like to see the Vikings go after
• 1:11:16
  Justin Fields.
• 1:11:18
  He's a big Justin Fields guy.
• 1:11:19
  I think that's a good question.
• 1:11:24
  But
• 1:11:25
  Yeah.
• 1:11:25
  No.
• 1:11:25
  This isn't great, Angelo.
• 1:11:27
  You you said it, man.
• 1:11:28
  This is rough to look at.
• 1:11:30
  Cooper Rush out there.
• 1:11:32
  Scraping the bottom of
• 1:11:33
  the barrel.
• 1:11:34
  K K I mean, right now Dakota bring Kase back to
• 1:11:37
  be 39 next year?
• 1:11:39
  I mean, honestly, if we're if we're looking at this right now, I I'm with I'm with coach Cody.
• 1:11:44
  You bring in Case, you bring in Basner as your top two, and then maybe you go out and get
• 1:11:52
  Aaron O'Connell, somebody that's been around the league under the ten year mark, or you
• 1:11:59
  draft somebody late, you know, but we definitely cannot go into next year with three
• 1:12:06
  new quarterbacks on this roster.
• 1:12:10
  Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Or or is Kyler just it's like make it work not only with Kyler this year, but next year as
• 1:12:17
  well, and you're looking at we're we're gonna make it work with this guy.
• 1:12:21
  I mean, by far, that list, Kyler Murray, probably the best athlete out of all of them
• 1:12:25
  who have success playing quarterback.
• 1:12:27
  Justin Fields is a hell of an athlete as well, but just doesn't you know, I I was watching
• 1:12:31
  Battle Chicago football when when he was there.
• 1:12:34
  Great.
• 1:12:35
  We don't need a running back.
• 1:12:36
  Right?
• 1:12:36
  We don't need a quarterback that's gonna play running back, and that's kind of essentially
• 1:12:40
  what you had.
• 1:12:41
  Quarterback that could play running back, that's casino with the offensive line would be
• 1:12:44
  helpful.
• 1:12:45
  I mean Yeah.
• 1:12:46
  You know.
• 1:12:47
  And and I think that's what this offensive needs.
• 1:12:50
  I mean, yes, we like Kyle Murray.
• 1:12:51
  Yes.
• 1:12:51
  We, you know, he's an athlete.
• 1:12:53
  I just think we need an athlete that can look over that offensive line and and give the play
• 1:12:59
  time to develop.
• 1:12:59
  I think that's what what our team needs is a quarterback that can manage the game and be
• 1:13:05
  able to let the play develop by maneuvering around a little bit.
• 1:13:09
  I mean, we cannot have a pocket passer in this offense.
• 1:13:12
  Well and if that's the case, you have that man on the team right now in Carson Wentz.
• 1:13:20
  And, you know, our boy SK was on with us a few weeks ago and made the the bold statement of,
• 1:13:27
  you know, with the fate of the universe on the line, he wants Carson Wentz.
• 1:13:33
  Up to this point, the man's perform admirably.
• 1:13:35
  Is he ever going to be a top 10 quarterback?
• 1:13:38
  No.
• 1:13:38
  Neither is Kyler Murray.
• 1:13:40
  Right?
• 1:13:41
  It's just not going to to happen that way.
• 1:13:44
  So at least from what we've seen, I think his best days are behind him.
• 1:13:48
  I I don't know that he can play quarterback the way that Kevin O'Connell wants his quarterbacks
• 1:13:55
  to play.
• 1:13:56
  It definitely looked like he was thinking a lot out there, little slow on the decision making.
• 1:14:02
  Can that improve?
• 1:14:03
  Undoubtedly.
• 1:14:04
  The the problem is is that you don't have a runway, and you have essentially two weeks
• 1:14:09
  well, a month.
• 1:14:10
  Right?
• 1:14:11
  You have a month to get the offense figured out because when you hit this gauntlet post buy, it
• 1:14:19
  could go very, very bad.
• 1:14:21
  And and you could be riding a five game win streak or going into the buy four and one and
• 1:14:26
  just as easily come out four weeks later at 500 or below 500.
• 1:14:31
  Right?
• 1:14:31
  It's a lot of tough games.
• 1:14:33
  You got the niners.
• 1:14:34
  You got the bills.
• 1:14:35
  You know, the niners game's gonna be all the way in Mexico City.
• 1:14:38
  So you're gonna face some adversity in this middle chunk of the season.
• 1:14:43
  And if you don't have an offense that is at least competent, I I just don't see how you're
• 1:14:52
  competing against the best teams in the league, and you don't have a lot of time to figure that
• 1:14:57
  out.
• 1:14:58
  Yeah.
• 1:14:59
  No.
• 1:15:00
  Coming out of the bye week, you're right.
• 1:15:01
  I mean, we got the lions in in Detroit.
• 1:15:04
  We got the by Monday night game against the Bills here.
• 1:15:09
  Then we go to the Packers who, you know, they're gonna be hyped up for that game.
• 1:15:13
  And then the Mexico City game with the Vikings and the Niners.
• 1:15:19
  And then it kinda gets a little easier.
• 1:15:22
  Falcons, Panthers, who are kinda shocking, and the Patriots, you know, towards the end of that
• 1:15:28
  little gauntlet there.
• 1:15:29
  So, yeah, they they gotta move quick here.
• 1:15:34
  Yep.
• 1:15:34
  And and we are going to I mean, we're gonna see.
• 1:15:37
  This is why we watch every Sunday, and and it it is what it is.
• 1:15:43
  Right?
• 1:15:44
  So Mac Jones, Skolin's all in on Mac.
• 1:15:47
  Skolin, you're out in Cali too, so you probably get to see quite a bit of him play.
• 1:15:52
  And and honestly, I I mean, Skolan's right.
• 1:15:55
  I mean, if the price is right, Mac Jones might be the guy.
• 1:15:59
  I mean, you know, I mean, that that's
• 1:16:04
  I to be that's been
• 1:16:05
  up a lot.
• 1:16:06
  We we get our quarterback if the price is right.
• 1:16:09
  I mean, you know, I think we need a quarterback that could be here long term.
• 1:16:14
  So Bubba just stepped out.
• 1:16:15
  Bubba still hit the wrong button.
• 1:16:17
  So, coach, Shaly, what do you guys think? I
• 1:16:19
  I mean, where are you guys sitting at right now looking at this the next four games of probably
• 1:16:24
  next year?
• 1:16:25
  I mean
• 1:16:26
  I mean, that taking all this into account, having a month to basically get the offense
• 1:16:33
  prepared and, you know, get them on their shit and in rhythm during the season.
• 1:16:40
  I mean, if we come out of this bye week, someone had asked the question, you know, is
• 1:16:45
  KOC's job on the line?
• 1:16:47
  We said no right away, but if you had that much time to get your offense in check and you come
• 1:16:53
  out of the bye week and just lay an absolute duck, I mean, you might be gone after that
• 1:16:59
  forty niners game.
• 1:17:01
  Yeah?
• 1:17:02
  No excuses.
• 1:17:03
  I mean, Sully, what do you think the next few weeks going and even possibly next year?
• 1:17:08
  I mean, what are you thinking?
• 1:17:10
  I mean, I I think you guys are really I just learned like, I'm still learning with you guys
• 1:17:15
  with Vikings.
• 1:17:15
  Didn't know, like, k o c was this, like was on the hot seat with you guys over here.
• 1:17:20
  Oh, you gotta go back and watch some episodes last year.
• 1:17:24
  Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  Ripping them.
• 1:17:25
  I still think if because you guys are probably still the considered the favorites in the right
• 1:17:30
  now.
• 1:17:31
  Every like, the Jets, we just played the lions, and their defense is not looking great.
• 1:17:36
  Packers just got booed off their field on Thursday.
• 1:17:40
  And then bears will the bears are looking good still, but I I still think you guys are in good
• 1:17:46
  shape.
• 1:17:46
  Hopefully, the offense picks it up.
• 1:17:49
  Like I said, I I still think Kyler still it's a complicated offense.
• 1:17:55
  I'm not excusing it.
• 1:17:56
  I'm just saying maybe a couple couple more weeks.
• 1:18:00
  By the bye week, hopefully, he figures it out.
• 1:18:03
  Like like I said, just throw the ball to to Justin at the end of the day if he if he can't.
• 1:18:09
  And like you said before, Sully, I mean, he never got to play the preseason game.
• 1:18:13
  So week one, his 11 plays was pretty much preseason form because that's all they really
• 1:18:17
  they played week one.
• 1:18:19
  Of course, he got hurt, and then his first full game was last week, and we sneaked out a win.
• 1:18:24
  So, yeah, these next I mean, these next three weeks coming out of the and then Lions, I I
• 1:18:32
  think the offense is I think the offense is really gonna ball out and get behind Kyler.
• 1:18:37
  Kyler's gotta get behind what KLCs, you know, telling Omar.
• 1:18:41
  KLCs has gotta so we've got to get a KLCs here and be like, hey.
• 1:18:46
  We need to cater this office more to what Kyler can do instead of what you can do.
• 1:18:51
  You know?
• 1:18:51
  So
• 1:18:53
  Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  Steve says it, like, all the time now.
• 1:18:55
  He says, like, the first four weeks of the season are the new preseason because teams
• 1:18:59
  obviously don't play their starters anymore.
• 1:19:01
  They don't hit in practice.
• 1:19:03
  So it's like like you said, B, like, he's learning Kyler.
• 1:19:07
  Kyler's learning KLC.
• 1:19:08
  Like so, like, unfortunately, they're kinda learning on the fly.
• 1:19:12
  It's just the thing is these games count.
• 1:19:13
  So it's kind of, like, annoying and frustrating for fans in the moment, but, like, it's kind of
• 1:19:18
  the reality.
• 1:19:20
  Yeah.
• 1:19:20
  Yeah.
• 1:19:21
  And then it makes it tough, for Kyler to get, chemistry with the wide receivers and with the,
• 1:19:28
  offense as a whole because, like you said, 11 plays.
• 1:19:31
  First game, he's out.
• 1:19:32
  Doesn't practice with the ones, during, week two or leading up to week two.
• 1:19:38
  Loses JJ first quarter, of this game.
• 1:19:41
  I mean, they they just haven't had time to really get any any rhythm down, any momentum,
• 1:19:49
  any chemistry, nothing.
• 1:19:52
  Well and that's what makes it organizational malpractice.
• 1:19:56
  If you knew you were out on McCarthy when you signed Kyler Murray, then you should have been
• 1:20:04
  giving all those reps.
• 1:20:05
  Right?
• 1:20:06
  So it it makes it it makes it evident now that the competition was a sham.
• 1:20:12
  You were only trying to show a little bit of value to the rest of the league during that
• 1:20:16
  process, whether it worked or not.
• 1:20:19
  You got a fifth for a per you know, a top 10 pick.
• 1:20:22
  I don't know that it worked out.
• 1:20:25
  We really have a So question for you, Selly.
• 1:20:29
  Barbara wants to know who who your team is.
• 1:20:33
  I'm a Jets fan.
• 1:20:34
  Been a Jets fan since I was eight years old.
• 1:20:39
  I love my Jets, though.
• 1:20:40
  Hopefully, one day they'll figure it out, but I'm I'm a Jets fan.
• 1:20:43
  Geez, Sean, Jaz.
• 1:20:46
  Yeah.
• 1:20:47
  No.
• 1:20:47
  I I don't think that Kyler is here.
• 1:20:50
  And I kinda said this early on, whether he's good or not, I I don't think he's here.
• 1:20:54
  I I think if he balls out whatever the that means to this fan base, that he's gonna want
• 1:21:00
  way too much money and it's just not gonna work out for this team.
• 1:21:04
  And we would rather go back to the well and sign a guy for, you know, 15 instead instead of
• 1:21:08
  of paying paying somebody somebody 30.
• 1:21:10
  I I don't think Kyler Murray's ever gonna get 40,000,000 like he did from Arizona again.
• 1:21:15
  I just don't see that in his future regardless of how he plays this year, and he's not off to
• 1:21:20
  a great start.
• 1:21:21
  Not doing himself any favors in there.
• 1:21:23
  I I think a lot more people in the league and especially executives are out on I think we all
• 1:21:30
  were, Angelo.
• 1:21:31
  We were there.
• 1:21:32
  Yep.
• 1:21:32
  Yep.
• 1:21:33
  Yeah.
• 1:21:34
  So somebody asked me And
• 1:21:35
  Angelo, think you maybe didn't miss it, but Selly's in Jersey too, man.
• 1:21:39
  You guys might be neighbors and you don't even know it.
• 1:21:42
  So somebody asked when Trey Lance was drafted, what pick?
• 1:21:46
  It was the third pick in the two thousand one draft, then it went to Dallas after the after
• 1:21:52
  the 2020 season.
• 1:21:55
  The guy I didn't realize how tall he was.
• 1:21:57
  He's six four, two twenty six.
• 1:21:59
  So
• 1:22:01
  Yeah.
• 1:22:01
  He kinda has that prototypical build.
• 1:22:03
  I think that's why he was drafted as high as he was, and people were high on him.
• 1:22:08
  But, you know, getting Well,
• 1:22:09
  he had a college where I don't on North Dakota.
• 1:22:14
  I think he led him to three titles, I think.
• 1:22:17
  So that's what really got him on the map.
• 1:22:20
  So
• 1:22:25
  Oh, boy.
• 1:22:26
  Yeah.
• 1:22:26
  It's gonna be a great rest of the season.
• 1:22:29
  I you know, best case scenario right now, Kyler goes out and plays good enough.
• 1:22:34
  He doesn't have to be an MVP.
• 1:22:37
  He just has to go out and be competent right now.
• 1:22:39
  Mhmm.
• 1:22:40
  Show us a little something.
• 1:22:41
  Play ball.
• 1:22:42
  Be a little loose a little looser back there.
• 1:22:45
  I'd like to see him maybe clenching a little bit too tight.
• 1:22:50
  Get him playing a little bit more comfortable and and see what happens, and we will be able
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  to get that.
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  Okay.
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  You're down in Jersey.
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  Okay.
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  I didn't realize you're in GA now, Angelo.
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  Awesome.
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  Yo.
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  My man, Angelo, let's go.
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  Always gotta rub.
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  Well, fellas, looking forward to this game this weekend.
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  Everybody make sure you go download the SPSN app on Roku.
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  We got a lot of the great content over there as well.
• 1:23:19
  Love doing our live streams here on YouTube, but gonna be doing some preview shows.
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  Hopefully, and Wrap will have an opportunity with the Vocal Vikes channel, get together on
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  Thursday and do a preview show that will be aired exclusively on the Roku channel.
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  So if you have a Roku device home, make sure you go download it.
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  We are on Amazon Fire TV as well.
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  I don't have an Amazon Fire device, so maybe I need somebody else who might to do that.
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  I can see that they've been downloaded on there, but I haven't been able to physically
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  check it.
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  Really cool that we're on on your TV screen as well, so you can check us out there.
• 1:23:54
  A lot of other great stuff from our network there.
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  Some awesome interviews.
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  I've had former NFL guys on.
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  We had Kirsten Kroll, who's the in in arena announcer for the Minnesota Wild.
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  We had her on recently.
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  Just some really great interviews that I've had the opportunity to do.
• 1:24:10
  Jeff Rimmer, legendary NHL, you know, play by play guy, worked in the worked in the league
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  for a long time.
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  Also did a lot of other sports.
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  Did the Olympics.
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  Got to meet Muhammad Ali.
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  Some really cool stories.
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  Go check out the interviews over there.
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  It's
• 1:24:23
  really awesome.
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  Yay.
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  Appreciate it, Angela.
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  It was great meeting you guys too.
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  I I really appreciate you guys tuning in, being a part of what we're building here.
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  I do have some clips I'm gonna play from Skullfest as we go out here too.
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  So once we kinda get off the stage, stick around, check out some of the clips for those
• 1:24:40
  of you that weren't there with us.
• 1:24:42
  And if you were there, maybe you can spot yourself, in the crowd.
• 1:24:46
  We're working on a full, like, twenty minute ish documentary on the whole experience, some
• 1:24:52
  interviews I got with the guys, and just some really cool stuff capturing that moment.
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  So, Selly, I will see you tomorrow.
• 1:24:59
  The Rim reports debut coming out, which means I gotta deep dive some basketball real quick
• 1:25:05
  tomorrow and get myself caught up to speed.
• 1:25:08
  I know LaMelo Ball is on the Timberwolves now.
• 1:25:11
  So that's obviously the big talk in Minnesota.
• 1:25:14
  Maybe Cody will come tap in with us after he gets off work.
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  Or no.
• 1:25:17
  We you work Wednesdays.
• 1:25:18
  Right?
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  Bee, you're off.
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  So you're welcome.
• 1:25:20
  If wanna come talk, you can come in with us.
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  Always appreciate you guys.
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  Yeah.
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  That's Barber, Scholle.
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  I I would invite in.
• 1:25:27
  It would be Kevin Cherry because I know he's a big basketball guy.
• 1:25:30
  So I would definitely reach out to him.
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  So We're gonna have a great time.
• 1:25:34
  We're gonna leave you guys with a little some highlights from Skullfest, and we will see you
• 1:25:40
  back here at least Tuesday night.
• 1:25:42
  Come back and join us tomorrow night on the stream and be on the lookout for that preview
• 1:25:46
  of the Dolphins and Vikings game with me in RAP.
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  Appreciate y'all.
• 1:25:51
  Have a good night, everybody.