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Lesley Groff Grilled Over Epstein’s American Express Travel Records (7/1/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. Now, I know this might come as a
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  surprise to you, but Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell didn't
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  operate this enterprise on their own. They had a lot
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  of help along the way. And one of the people
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  that was most integral to the operation, at least logistically speaking,
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  was Leslie Groth. And one of the vehicles that was
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  used to make these travel arrangements to book these flights
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  to get these girls into a position where they can
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  be abused was the American Express Black Card. And this
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  is exactly why they never wanted to follow the money trail.
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  They know if they follow the money trail, where it
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  ends up, and it doesn't end up in a place
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  where you and I are moving on. Instead, if they
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  were to release the money trail and we all saw
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  where all this money was going, where it was coming from,
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  I think that people would take to the streets. And
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  I truly believe that because people are still under the
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  impression that this was just a human trafficking ring, but
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  it was so much more than that. And while of
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  course the girls and women who were harmed, they were
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  harmed the most and they have the biggest grievance, but
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  that doesn't mean that the rest of us haven't been
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  shit on by these people and having been treated badly,
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  and they continue to do it day after day brazenly. Now.
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  They at least had some shame back in the day
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  and tried to hide their cover ups, but now they're
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  just running one and plain sight all the while just
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  laughing in your face and giving you double middle fingers.
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  And until we have a look at the financials, I
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  don't think we're ever gonna know just how deep this
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  went and just how many people were involved. So today
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  we have an article from CBS News and the headline
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  Epstein's longtime assistant grilled by US lawmakers over AMEX travel
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  booked for women or girls. This article was authored by lions.
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  US lawmakers recently grilled Jeffrey Epstein's longtime assistant, Leslie Groff,
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  about Epstein's use of American Express to book travel for
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  multiple women or girls, according to a transcript of her
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  hours long testimony released this week by the House Oversight Committee.
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  And as soon as we wrap up with the Bill
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  Gates transcript, we'll keep it moving right into the Leslie
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  Groff transcript and we'll see what she had to say.
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  But isn't it interesting that none of these people had
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  any idea what was going on? Crazy. CBS News was
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  first to report in February that the late convicted sex
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  offender used AMEX top tierrists and cherry and travel service
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  and an AMEX black card to arrange hundreds of travel
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  itineraries for women or girls, predominantly from Eastern Europe. And
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  I think that's where the focus should be. I think
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  that there is so much to uncover over in Europe,
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  in South America, in Central America, and I think that
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  if some of those pieces fall into place, maybe we'll
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  get a better idea of just how vast this all was. Well,
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  we're talking about what ten twelve countries at least, how
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  many continents, how many women over the years, that's the
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  real question. Groff, who worked for Epstein for nearly two decades,
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  was a central point person and arranging the bookings with MX.
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  Documents released by the Justice Department earlier this year indicated yes,
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  she was the go to woman. She was the logistical
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  backbone of the operation when it comes to setting up
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  travel arrangements, you know, doing Epstein's day to day and
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  that puts her directly in the crosshairs of a Rico investigation.
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  You see, if this was a real investigation from the start,
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  they would have charged or threatened to charge Leslie Groff
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  in order to get her to roll over on Jeffrey Epstein.
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  But they never even talked to her. They never talked
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  to les Wexner, they never talked to Sarah Kelln Vickers.
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  So I don't know how much more proof you need
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  that the whole thing was to set up from the jump,
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  and the fact that they never were going to chase
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  Rico at all, it gives away the game. CBS News
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  cannot verify the number of women or girls who received
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  travel bookings or their ages due to the redaction of
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  names in the files released by the Department of Justice. Well, look,
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  I don't know. I have no idea how many women,
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  what their names were, where they originated from. But I
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  can tell you this, there were literally literally hundreds to
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  thousands that were abused one way or the other. And
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  if you think it was all by Jeffrey Epstein, congratulations,
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  you're dumb as fuck. In her sworn testimony to the
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  House Oversight Committee on June ninth, Groff said she did
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  not believe she ever range travel for girls under the
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  age of eighteen. Well, according to the transcript released Tuesday,
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  she said that her understanding was the bookings were being
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  arranged for traveling assistants employed by Epstein. Oh, traveling assistants. Huh.
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  You don't find it weird that all of his traveling
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  assistants are these younger women. You don't got one male assistant, dude,
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  one guy that you know is part of the crew.
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  It's to tell anytime you have one of these disgusting
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  old scumbags that just surrounds themselves with young women, I
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  have questions and you can double that shit. When those
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  people look like Jeffrey Epstein, what a goofy ass looking dude.
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  So all the people that are out here talking about, oh,
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  we had no idea. Yeah, all those young women, good
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  looking young women, they decided they just wanted to hang
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  out with Epstein because you know, hell of a guy,
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  real good guy, that Jeffrey Epstein. Grafton, I being aware
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  of any instant in which the purpose of travel was
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  for Epstein or anyone in Epstein's network to engage in
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  sexual activity with the women involved, Well, let's see the
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  paper trail. Let's get some testimony. What are the names
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  of the women, Let's track them down. Oh wait, the
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  Justice Department said, there's nothing left to look at. She
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  was pressed by the House Oversight Committee about whether decoy
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  flights had been arranged for the purpose of obtaining visas
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  for women or girls that were involved. As CBS News
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  were reported last month, Amex had a dedicated relationship manager,
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  Natalia Malatkova, assigned to Epstein's account, and emails in the
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  files released by Justice Department appear to show she was
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  arranging such flights at Groff's request to obtain visas for
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  the women or girls. Immigration fraud another aspect nobody's talking about.
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  And I'm sure that'll change when they figure out a
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  way to politicize that as well, because that's the only
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  thing they care about, politicizing this and trying to use
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  it as some kind of weapon against their enemy. Meanwhile,
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  the whole lot of them are responsible, every single person
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  who's held office over the last what forty years? You
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  tell me you had no idea Nobody could have stopped them,
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  Nobody heard any rumors. Nobody decided to walk into Justice
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  one day and say enough is enough. So please save it.
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  Some of us have been around since the very beginning,
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  and your bullshit distractions aren't going to work. In one
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  twenty sixteen email exchange, graff Ro to Molokova, Natasha, we
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  need to find a flight that departs Rome and goes
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  to London on the twenty ninth for redacted. This flight
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  should depart around the same time the flights we are
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  holding for a redacted Rome to Miami ten thirty five am.
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  No return flights for this flight. This is a decoy flight.
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  She will not really take it, but she needs to
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  show an itinerary for this flight. Fraud, immigration, fraud all
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  over the place, being helped and propagated by American Express. Folks,
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  if you think American Express is the only culprit in
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  the financial sector, you're missing the whole entire boat, because
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  the truth is the financial sector. If you're looking for
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  a boogeyman there, it is no no, Not your local banker,
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  not your you know teller down at Wells Fargo. The
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  people that are at the very top, the people that
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  are making money hand over fist, no matter the situation.
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  Banking on wars, both ends of it, banking on tragedies,
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  both ends of it making off with everybody's wealth in
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  the greatest transfer of wealth from the bottom up in
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  history since COVID. But sure, let's continue to fight with
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  each other, because I'm sure that's what terrifies them. When
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  everybody's at each other's throat arguing about dumb shit, these
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  motherfuckers are able to continue with the heist, no repercussions,
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  nobody ever going to prison, and they just move on
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  to the next tragedy that they're gonna milk. When asked
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  whether the purpose of the flight was to obtain visa,
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  Groff's attorney, Michael Backner, told the committee, with all due respect,
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  there is no indication that it was to obtain a visa.
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  This woman wanted to take a flight to visit mister Epstein.
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  She did not want to tell her parents that she
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  was going to take this flight. She wanted to keep
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  the flight that was taking her to London and have
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  a different flight though, take her really to see mister Epstein.
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  Groff told lawmakers, I don't know why she didn't want
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  to tell her parents, but this was not for a visa. Well,
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  somebody that doesn't know much Leslie Groff seems to know
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  a whole hell of a lot, doesn't she Well, this
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  wasn't for a visa. Oh it wasn't, was it? So
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  you do know more than you let on. Leslie Groff
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  needs to be hit with a subpoena. In a December
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  twenty twelve email exchange, Graff wrote to Modelkova redacted has
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  an interview with the consul at ten thirty. She needs
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  proof of a hotel, stay and air for this meeting.
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  Malakova asked Graff directly whether the woman needed a flight
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  and accommodation reservation only for visa purposes. You know the
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  amount of fraud that's going on here is staggering. How
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  much more evidence is needed. It's against Damac's policy to
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  be honest, she wrote to Groff. But here's the option.
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  We can hold it till tonight. Graff directed Malakova to
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  cancel the fully refundable travel itinerary that was being held,
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  and signed off to Malakova, You've been great. A day
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  after alleged consolate appointment took place, the files released by
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  the Justice appeared a show in an exchange with House
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  Oversight Committee Senior Council Britney Brignac, in which she was
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  asked what the purpose of that particular booking was, Graff replied,
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  I don't know. I think that this was an assistant
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  of mister Epstein that wanted to get her visa. The
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  only thing that I facilitated was getting her a ticket
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  and a hotel room reservation. Cool, you're a part of
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  the conspiracy. Now, now you're part of the rico. Now
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  you're going to prison. It looks to me like she
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  needed to get her visa and she was requesting it,
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  and that's it. I was asked to get the ticket.
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  I was dealing with Amex Centurion. That's it. You know.
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  It's like in Game of Thrones when the Lanister boys
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  were killed by Carstark and then they arrest everybody that
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  killed them, and there's one guy that's standing there and
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  he says, well, I didn't take part. I didn't kill anybody.
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  I was only watching, And then Rob Stark goes, okay,
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  well this one was only watching. Hang him last. That's
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  basically the same shit with Leslie Groff here, right, Well,
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  it wasn't me. I wasn't taking part in the abuse. No,
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  But if it wasn't for the logistics, the abuse couldn't occur.
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  So that puts you smack dab in the middle of
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  a criminal conspiracy, plus you were benefiting from it, and
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  you were doing it to further the criminal conspiracy because
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  it benefited you. This is a clear cut case, and
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  the fact that there's never Enrico is the biggest tell
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  in history that Jeffrey Epstein was being protected by the
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  United States government, not by Israel, not by Russia, not
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  by green men, by our government right here in the
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  United States. When challenged on whether this was an example
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  of a decoy flight, Groff replied no. American Express declined
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  to comment Friday on Grov's testimony and whether the company
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  had carried out enough due diligence on epstein'sccount. In February,
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  an American Express spokesperson told CBS News the company strongly
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  condemns abuse, exploitation, and human trafficking. We take our legal
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  and regulatory responsibilities seriously, including reporting suspicious activity. Nothing suspicious
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  about a guy using his AMEX card to move hundreds
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  of Eastern European women from whatever country they're in to America,
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  especially when that guy's already a sex offender. No big
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  deal here, guys, We have regulations. We terminated his account
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  following federal charges against them, and we continuously update our
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  process in controls. We regret having them as a customer,
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  the spokesperson said, Notice, it's that after his federal charges.
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  So that was in twenty nineteen. Again just to point
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  out that was the plan. Make sure it was state,
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  make sure it didn't hamper Jeffrey Epstein's ability to do
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  what he was doing for insert government here, and in
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  return for that protection for him to do whatever he wanted,
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  he played Paul with the United States government and gave
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  them information, whatever that information was. But if anyone thinks
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  that American Express is the only financial outlet that was
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  helping Epstein along the way, they're crazy. And if you're
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  wondering why they don't want to follow the money trail,
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  this is why. Because they can't control where it ends up,
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  they can't control the blast radius, and most importantly, they
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  wouldn't be able to control the narrative. All right, folks,
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  that's gonna do it for this one. All the information
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  that goes with this episode can be found in the
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