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Fuente Gone and Miami Game Preview · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, I am Curtis
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  Wilson, I'm Brian siglo buddy. We're on a Wednesday night,
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  something happened a day ago that I guess we're going to talk
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  about a little bit what you think.
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  Yeah. Justin Fuente out as the
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  Virginia Tech. Hokies head coach mutually
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  parted ways we have so much. John LeBron.
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  Yes. It's and just so y'all know
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  we're about 8 or 9 minutes. Late bronze.
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  Get everything ready in his computer crashes.
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  So he has to do a full bore restart.
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  So it completely seized up. I couldn't get a mouse to
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  connect. It was it was wild.
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  So I was like, all right let's let's try that again.
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  We got time, we got this, we got this, we got a 10-minute buffer.
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  We're going to get this in but we have so much download, then
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  that happens. And then Brian tries to send me
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  the rundown email that locks up for a few minutes.
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  So we're like crap and all with what took place yesterday and
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  you already said it. Brian.
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  The mutually agreed to part ways.
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  We knew it was going to happen. Right?
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  We knew it was coming. We didn't know when it was
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  coming. We thought it might be after BC.
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  And apparently there were already talks of it going down
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  after BC. Apparently, as early as last
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  Wednesday the decision was made, the terms were not agreed on
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  until looks like Monday afternoon and that's when the
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  wheels started turning. In terms of talking about
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  interim, head coach talking about Out, when we're going to
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  talk to the team and let them know and all that fun stuff, so
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  that ended up happening at 7:30, team meeting on Tuesday, broke
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  live to the world at about 7:45. It's kind of a weird weird
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  timing of it, but we will take it will take.
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  We're officially out of the the Justin Fuente era.
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  We're waiting to see what the next steps are going to be.
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  It is. And, you know, Brian we heard
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  from with any said last Wednesday, we essentially went
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  into last Wednesday, we were four and five.
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  Now, the question goes, when was with given the approval, right?
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  Wasn't the Monday? Was it a few weeks before,
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  essentially, what was the number?
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  What's the number 84 was the number 9 and 3?
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  You know those that number that it Justin Fuente had hit this
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  year, he would have been retained.
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  That's the one I got a feeling that after pit he had had the
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  thumbs-up from everyone. He needed the thumbs up for
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  that. It's your decision, make it when
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  you can Yeah, and then it's like give it a few games, the cues
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  games happened, then GT, then then the Dreadful Friday night,
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  Primetime performance, at BC, and I think, I think that was
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  probably the Capper. I think if you win BC, you may
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  wait to the end of the season. But once the PC game happened,
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  you kind of, you know, it's over.
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  And when you've exhausted The avenue to get to a respectable,
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  a twin season. I don't even think that was
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  potentially enough to save his job, just the way, some of this
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  other stuff went down in some of the stuff that we're hearing
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  coming out of various. Whoo, buddy purses at this
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  point, a lot of, a lot of stuff to unpack, but at this point we
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  are, you know, Justin Fuente is done here.
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  Virginia Tech. We said, Curtis is early.
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  Last year was not just I don't want him here but I want him
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  fired. The liberty liberty last year.
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  Yep. I made the same call after pit.
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  You made the call exactly one year ago, exactly.
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  One year ago you may actually one year ago Thanksgiving the
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  week and I was at the point it wasn't he can do stuff to save
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  his job. It was at that point, he needs
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  to be fired because he hasn't done.
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  Enough to save his job. He hasn't done anything and he
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  hasn't attempted to do anything to save his job.
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  That's always going to be. I think our bigger issue than
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  just him himself, right? Most people will do things and
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  attempt to save their position. Fire people, make adjustments.
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  It was almost like, well, status quo is good.
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  And it's, like, status quo was, we're right at 500.
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  This is an acceptable for our football program.
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  Our football program is a 10-plus win, win, the ACC
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  compete on a national level, not mediocrity.
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  Yeah, it's not it's not and it was consistently.
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  That was the product we were getting it.
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  Really hasn't been since 2016, where we won, like we should and
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  That was with players that Beamer recruited most of that
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  was with a system that the rest of the ACC hadn't looked at yet
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  very true and with an exceptional quarterback.
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  Yeah. And with the, let's not discount
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  the the talents of Jerrod Evans. Their Jerrod Evans came in and
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  made made some things happen. Don't discount Evans, don't just
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  count forward, Hodges Phillips, don't discount.
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  The Edmunds. Brothers, on defense, other
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  really good players on defense for those first two years.
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  So that was what it was. And, you know, the terms agreed
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  or Monday and I know some people have complained.
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  Why didn't you just wait and, you know, just save that, you
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  know, the know what's the few million 1.25 million, which was
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  has been reported saved on the buyout Brian Me, and you talked
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  about this in three years, 1.5 million, roughly 400,000 dollars
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  that what's that five? Six, seven positions of a
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  recruiting staff or analyst you're bringing in or that put
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  that pays for your million-dollar least one?
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  At least one of your your coordinators.
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  Exactly. It pays for it, that one, your
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  pays extra for coordinator. So to which credit getting in
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  there and And getting that buyout down and into some way.
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  Justin Fuente is Agents credit, who knows?
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  It's over to get your guy back out on the market as quickly as
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  possible. I still a lot of, you know,
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  people are saying food, quit on the team.
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  I'm not going to say that. If you got fired today in your
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  boss asked, you, hey, but I'm going to need you to work.
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  The Friday for me. Is that cool?
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  I'm letting you go on Friday, but can you work the Friday?
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  Would anybody do that? No, nobody would do it.
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  If it was mid season you might consider it just to kind of keep
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  things may be intact. Maybe maybe but I mean this
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  isn't an ID or Durant's. Situation like this is this is
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  true. Bridges have been burned to a
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  point where they weren't going to be mended.
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  No you might as well go ahead and cut your losses and you know
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  you say Fuente quit he definitely said.
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  All right, if you don't want me, I'm done.
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  If you if you say that's quitting on the team that that's
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  fine. I don't necessarily disagree but
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  there are a lot of different ways to look at that angle.
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  I love it but it's but for him, the guys going to get hired in
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  the next month. Yeah, I mean I've no and it's a
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  business, he's looking out for himself and I mean that that is
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  that is what it is. And we're looking out for
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  ourselves by moving on now versus waiting until after UVA
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  or even later until December 15th, when it dropped down to
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  7.5. And you know what, it helps us
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  even more get the footing and get the ground.
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  Go get the ball rolling. Yeah, for getting out now we can
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  make an announcement after UVA instead of waiting to know it,
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  rid of the coach until I want my full assumption, depending on,
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  what time that UVA game is whoever our next coaches is
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  likely played that day. If they have played that day or
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  their plane, during that day, it will be dropped.
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  That would be ideal. I think it's I think that's
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  what's going to happen. Yeah, I'm hoping, you know, a
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  week from this Saturday we're talking about the way the UVA
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  game shook out and who the next head coach is going to be the
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  next head coach is speculating, the staff, speculating, who
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  staying? But let's do this.
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  What was very clear and I'm going to say this for on and I
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  set it back in. Of last year with Babcock wanted
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  him gone last year. Something stopped with Babcock.
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  Don't know who something? Or someone stopped him because
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  if you compare that press conference to this press
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  conference night and day, it was clear, which was concise with
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  did look confused. He did not have a bunch of goofy
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  statements in there, right? Where the last wait, last
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  December was trying to sell the unsellable.
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  That was the problem, and he was not even a sold himself.
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  Elf, he wasn't sold on it himself.
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  I mean, and it looked, I mean he looked away his demeanor.
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  I mean, he looked like a man that was up there almost like
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  with a gun to his head. Pretty much.
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  He did not want to be there. No, and this way it looked like
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  he looked confident. He looked like alright we made
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  this decision. Here's what's happening.
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  Here's what's going to happen next you know disclose to
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  whatever degree he could. What those next steps are going
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  to look like and you know, took a Number of questions answered.
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  Some of them didn't answer some others, which I get.
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  I mean, you're not going to answer everything in this type
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  of situation. So but I mean, he made it clear
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  the two things that he thought were lacking the most in this
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  regime consistency and identity and that absolutely hit the nail
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  on the head. That and he'd and I'll say
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  another thing. He took ownership for that press
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  conference last year. Yes, he did.
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  He did take ownership during and, and not and you know, he
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  still stood by the decision he made at the time.
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  But he said, I did not do a good job of communicating that
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  decision. And I there was a bunch of Miss
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  steps and how he, yes, back that up and he took ownership of
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  that. So, you got to respect that but
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  again, consistency and identity and those are the things we've
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  been talking about a lot on here, right?
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  Particularly consistency. Obviously the identity is kind
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  of people see identity as different things and it's hard
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  to really Define it, right? You kind of just know it when
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  you see it. It's easy, right?
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  You just get started 2018 through this year.
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  It was a win-loss win. Lost.
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  We lost. We were, we're right at one game
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  over 500 again. And we talked about it last week
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  with the lose a big game and then go out and have a
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  performance that looks as good as anything you've done in that
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  season. It's just, it's so inconsistent
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  there in the thing. You want to know as a head
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  coach. And as a, you want to be as a
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  head coach and you want to have as an athletic director, you
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  want to have a coach that can get the predictable outcomes
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  taken care of. Right.
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  And we talked about it before the start of the Season.
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  We thought six games on our schedule should be more or less
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  predictable outcomes. Yes, yes.
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  And one of those has already fallen in Syracuse game.
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  Yep. Yep.
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  One of those is already falling. Eva still on the table.
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  Now UVA definitely is a A better team than we anticipate in.
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  Syracuse is at least better than what they were predicted to be.
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  Yeah but it's the whole identity.
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  The identity crisis also at times where Especially on the
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  offensive side of the ball, the defensive had their ups and
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  downs, but the offensive side of the ball.
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  How many times Brian had? We said, certain times in the
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  game looks night and day night. Yeah.
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  Like, you know, first drive of camera with the Notre Dame game,
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  where we were in some hooks, we Ransom under Center stuff, when
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  we got inside the 10 toward touchdown, The next Drive, same
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  situation doing something completely different.
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  Yep. And it's going to go to
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  somewhere on a talk about a little later on, but, you know,
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  I think whoever comes in here regardless who it is and me, and
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  Brian, are digging and believe it or not, y'all wait till
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  Sunday, the back half of the episodes, Sunday, after the
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  recap, all, we going to have some fun with looking at the
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  candidates. Yeah, we've had a full list
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  lists and we're not talking one point.
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  Tan. Yep, it's growing by the day so
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  we got a couple more days to review it.
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  That's going to be a fun one, but whoever comes in consistent
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  message, right? Yeah, thank you.
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  Ever comes in here. Also should know.
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  Look at Saturday. well, this Saturday Saturday.
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  That was a four and five team on Senior Day likely no shot to
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  win. The ACC scraping for Bowl,
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  eligibility about 57,000, showed up, Which is the East and West
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  stands look very good. The student section was full,
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  the only things that really weren't full was the Duke
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  section and parts of the South End Zone.
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  That's it. So whoever gets this job has to
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  understand, we are engaging fan base, right?
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  And we will reciprocate that if you engage us full-bore, this,
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  you know, we're showing out like this without the level of
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  Engagement that we are accustomed to in the previous 25
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  years. Well, the level engagement plus
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  the winning. Say what you will say, what you
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  will. Brian.
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  If we were eating to going into this weekend, would we give a
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  shit about the engagement of the coach?
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  Much less much less like much. I don't give a shit.
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  I don't care what he does, but when you're not winning, it's
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  those little things but it's those little things to that give
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  you more leeway. And let's flip it Brian to this
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  because the guy right now with him, probably has more leeway
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  than anybody. He's one of the guys that we
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  believe should be retained on the Stafford Barbara to the next
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  head coach is alumni. Hooky Legend, JC price takes
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  over as interim and yeah, absolutely.
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  Perfect choice. There's a lot of reasons for
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  this. Being the perfect choice.
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  Number one, the way he carries himself his demeanor, He
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  commands a room. He commands respect obviously,
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  Virginia Tech grad, Virginia Tech former football player, not
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  only, but the player, but Elite level football, legend legend.
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  Yeah. Got drafted or the Sugar Bowl
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  team yet. Hard Biggie's titles.
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  And the other part, the other parts of it here.
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  So we've already got we've got to be line coach as well.
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  He's helping with d-line still got d-line coach, so you take
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  him off that you're not losing a full position, coach respected
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  for his coaching and is recruiting both by players.
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  And by the staff it also lets the other coordinators focus on
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  their area. The ball one of which I'm not
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  sure that we really give a shit about but it to that very soon.
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  Soon. And you know, they thought they
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  talked about, we're going to talk we're going to see him
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  tomorrow. He apparently on Tuesday was
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  setting up calls with with the recruiting class trying to get
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  those either done yesterday or today.
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  Yeah. So obviously hopefully that all
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  those have happened at this point.
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  I haven't seen any big Rumblings or anything yet other than like,
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  you know, kind of a question face when I think Pernell thrown
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  There. I think some of the recruits are
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  probably getting getting some calls from other schools at this
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  point, which is to be expected. As soon as soon as a coach is
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  gone, everybody else that was in that top three top five is on
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  the horn, man. So, and you got to probably a
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  couple others that, you know, some, some players in pan out
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  all of a sudden. The guy that was really firm is
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  now, you know, potentially loose.
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  Let me try to sneak in there. Last minute.
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  I think Michigan. I think, was it, was it miss?
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  My kids offered. Malachi orlimar law.
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  I think was one of our law was Lamar law.
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  They've already offered it. Yes.
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  Oh okay. That's fine.
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  It's an expectation. Anybody sitting out here who
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  said, are you going to lose the whole class?
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  No, you're not. Could you lose pieces?
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  Yeah, but this is also an important and obviously the top
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  end is going to be the biggest targets because they're going to
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  be the most desirable pieces of the bunch.
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  Lamar's not a topping guy, the Mars actually on the bottom have
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  rain wise now. Not too many, guys, 65 300
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  pounds. It have his, you know,
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  athleticism Lamar law is definitely undervalued in this
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  class. We talked about it when he
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  committed, that's to be expected.
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  But let's go back to j.c. a little bit here.
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  Yeah, talk about the perfect fit because he really is the perfect
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  fit and it gives him an opportunity to really
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  Experience, what it's like to lead the team that he cares so
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  much about. So that's I think it matters
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  more to him too and I think that makes it just as just a special
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  right? It does it does it does matter
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  more than him because regardless what happens the rest of his
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  career he always gets to hold for hopefully three games I'm
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  hoping it's three games, three games.
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  I got to head coach, my alma mater.
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  What? I'm also hoping it does if he
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  can rally The troops like potentially I believe he can.
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  And they come out. Good.
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  The next two weeks I think jhc prices, easily retained, I think
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  he's going to get a DL stickle easily the DL coach.
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  I think he's going to be in a HC because that's exactly what
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  happened when fluent it came in, but had never been an associate
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  or assistant head coach in his life.
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  He got that label. Why?
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  Because like you've already mentioned about JC the locker
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  room, respects him, both sides of the ball.
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  He's respected in the coaching Community.
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  He's respected amongst the administrators.
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  He's a respected him on the alumni.
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  If you're a coach Walker. In, whoever it may be.
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  You just shake his hand and say, welcome to the team say nothing
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  else and figure out. Is he my aah Seekers.
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  Is he going to be the guy where I've got to learn personalities?
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  I've got to learn. I've got to learn the shape of
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  this locker room. He's going to be the guy.
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  I need to talk to. I need him on my right hand.
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  Yeah, JC knows the lay of the land.
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  He commands, like I said, we commands respect.
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  He's a coaches coach. He's a players player.
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  Yeah, and I think that respect carries over and I think that
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  you're going to see him be at the again at the top of the
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  list. Like you said of guys, that
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  could be retaining the staff. I think you put Ryan Smith right
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  up there with him. Yeah, as the two would I know
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  we've said that on previous episodes but we're going to
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  reiterated. Those are the of the of the
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  coaches currently on this staff in terms of probability of them
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  being retained and in terms of what they've done while they've
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  been here those to have shown up.
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  It Shone out, and just based on the positions, they coach,
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  there's a likelihood that there would be a place for them on the
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  staff. The only, the only third one
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  that could potentially Shabbos a because we find out his letter,
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  his letter goes past June of next year with the rest of the
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  coaching staff doesn't him in, and he's one of them will
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  respect to special teams coaches in the country before he hit
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  who, Since he's been here, those.
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  Yeah I mean he's definitely a he's a food guy but he's not a
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  food disciple. Like he's not his wagon is not
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  been hitched to food for his career.
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  So I think that that gives him a little bit less of a connection
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  to the staff versus some of the other guys that are on this
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  staff, especially the offensive guys.
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  Definitely, the offensive guys. All right.
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  Well with also openly talked about his coaching Research,
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  which I have a feeling, he's probably already been dipping,
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  his toes in the water, a little bit figuring out, you know,
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  what's going on sales, like some of that was happening today.
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  There's a bit a whole lot of chatter smoke but not he said
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  it, right? Yeah.
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  You said you're going to hear things which was which is kind
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  of a breath of fresh air from an add, right?
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  We're going to do a search. It like, no, no, you're going to
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  hear stuff. Just to put it out there to let
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  us know but we've already hit it once.
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  Brian, he already put like the first thing he talked about was
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  engaging. Hokie Nation engaging
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  Blacksburg, engaging essentially, the state gauging
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  the region and that's, that's the big thing that especially
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  out the gate that Fuente did not do a very good job of, I think.
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  So, when winter came in here, there was respect for their
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  Traditions but there was Respect for the operations.
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  How the program was run? How the program was operated?
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  Well, I'm gonna take that back. I think he respected.
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  What was operated on the field and in Blacksburg coca, I don't
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  think he understood how things were operated in Virginia, in
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  the Carolinas, in the Mid-Atlantic region.
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  I don't think he has a feel for that.
• 24:13
  I think he, I think he respected the hell out of what Frank did
• 24:15
  here in Blacksburg. I don't think he understood the
• 24:19
  nuances. Well, I don't think, I think he
• 24:22
  respected what Frank did. I don't think he understood how
• 24:26
  his actions specifically would fit into that.
• 24:29
  Yes. Does that make sense?
• 24:31
  That's a good way to put it? Yeah.
• 24:33
  So I think he respected. I think he paid homage to what
• 24:38
  Frank did but I don't think Think he understood that, we
• 24:41
  expect a lot of those same things from you day in day out.
• 24:45
  Yeah. And and especially with the
• 24:47
  engagement piece, frankly, it wasn't Frank.
• 24:49
  That always been engaging younger or older and it was you
• 24:57
  know the all Shucks. They had a great relationship
• 25:00
  with the media. You know, I saw Frank has
• 25:05
  several hokey events never met him want to hopefully one day.
• 25:08
  That'll happen. You just see him walking around
• 25:10
  just Shakin hands and talk and just very relaxed, just heat.
• 25:14
  You can see he on the room you could see was just so relaxed.
• 25:17
  It if you somebody wouldn't talk to him, he was very open.
• 25:21
  If he saw somebody, he recognized, he go.
• 25:23
  It was just, it was just one of those cool things to see.
• 25:26
  And the next guy has to be that in some way shape or form when
• 25:32
  hope they're in July of next year.
• 25:35
  Brian me, and you had to a hokie Club dinner here in Richmond for
• 25:38
  kickoff. The new head coach, we see that
• 25:41
  and whether we get a chance to talk to the guy or just hear him
• 25:44
  talk for a couple minutes. We hope we see that.
• 25:48
  But let's talk about style, Braun.
• 25:52
  I think we saw Justin Fuente is an X's and O's coach, right?
• 25:58
  He was, he's also buddy. Coach, what do you coach?
• 26:01
  He liked me, likey. Likey like his buddies, what?
• 26:04
  But yeah, he was, he was more of a focus on.
• 26:09
  The process and the X's and O's and not so much on evaluating
• 26:18
  everything from a top-down approach which, which is a CEO
• 26:22
  style, which is specifically, what wit mentioned.
• 26:25
  And that's a style that we've talked about is, is what most
• 26:29
  power, five schools need to operate under.
• 26:33
  Yep. It's if you might get away with
• 26:36
  it at some other schools, but I feel like in the CEO has to do
• 26:40
  several things, right? So it's not just managing the
• 26:44
  staff and the roster that that's a big part of it, but it's also
• 26:48
  managing donors. It's also making sure that
• 26:52
  you're engaging the community, you're the face of the
• 26:55
  organization. You're the it all it has to do
• 27:00
  with closing deals to right. You.
• 27:02
  Damn right. He's got to be a a CEO has to be
• 27:06
  able to close with the best Personnel that in the country.
• 27:13
  And we don't have that right now.
• 27:15
  We're looking for someone that can do that type of role.
• 27:19
  Absolutely. And the CEO also is going to be
• 27:22
  a person. It's always looking high level
• 27:25
  right? Yeah.
• 27:26
  High-level big picture. I level big picture.
• 27:29
  So when they're looking at specific Parts, they're not
• 27:32
  going to be trying to get into the nuts and bolts.
• 27:35
  It's essentially going to be Example.
• 27:38
  The Run game is crap. We're getting blown off the
• 27:41
  ball. Every time offensive line coach.
• 27:43
  Coach. This is your day to come.
• 27:45
  Talk to me that. Look at the film.
• 27:48
  Tell me what's happening. What are you going to do to
• 27:50
  change it? Hey, go about your way CL.
• 27:55
  Also is something that we mentioned that it goes
• 27:59
  hand-in-hand, right? The ability to hire a
• 28:01
  competitive staff, In a CEO type world.
• 28:04
  You're not hiring buddies, you might have a few confidants like
• 28:07
  one guy like one person you want on that staff because you trust
• 28:12
  them, they're your sounding board, right?
• 28:16
  It one. Why For the longest time you
• 28:22
  have your coaching beard but she also have.
• 28:24
  You also have your other guys on there, you know, we're going
• 28:28
  here with a little Ted lasso reference.
• 28:29
  You got to have your coach beard there but you're going to have
• 28:32
  some other coaches on the staff that you know you got to have
• 28:36
  your other guys that just fit the team.
• 28:40
  Are a good fit for the team you have.
• 28:42
  Yeah, they aren't your buddies. They aren't just guys that
• 28:45
  you've always done it with. And you you just can't have that
• 28:49
  many buddies on a team. I mean again I said it a second
• 28:53
  ago, Billy Hite was here when Frank got here and Billy Hite
• 28:57
  became The concierge for Frank from numerous years and Frank
• 29:03
  had turnover in Franklin. People going people, left and
• 29:06
  yada yada, and back and forth. And as the later years, we saw
• 29:11
  all right, when he became not as quick to let people go or move
• 29:15
  people along, that's when we headed to the wrong direction.
• 29:19
  With the Wente unfortunately. Like that's why I don't think
• 29:24
  he's ever get another job. Because like you can't play this
• 29:29
  like you can have one person. You can't have six or seven.
• 29:34
  Yeah, you never sounding board but you know I think what we're
• 29:39
  hearing especially with mentioning going from 8th to
• 29:42
  Fourth and revenues, we reviewed it last week and if we really
• 29:45
  went up that much Brian. You know, we're probably going
• 29:52
  to be right at the cusp of a million for each ordinator,
• 29:54
  we're probably paying 100,000 is going to probably be minimum.
• 30:00
  Yeah. And like, like we've said before
• 30:01
  eight fifty plus is kind of the starting point you want for a
• 30:05
  high-quality coordinator and usually if you're starting
• 30:09
  price, tag is 850 then. And you're willing to go up to
• 30:12
  as much as you know, 12 1.2 at the very top end that then you
• 30:19
  can really get pretty much anybody that you want.
• 30:23
  Yeah, but the billion is kind of the is kind of the the nice
• 30:29
  butter zone, right? It's the Zone where you more or
• 30:32
  less can get your choice because anybody make you much more than
• 30:35
  that, is already been locked down.
• 30:37
  Pretty much. The one other thing that I think
• 30:41
  went, hopefully, we'll learn from this, you know, ten year is
• 30:47
  I think with no needs to know, if you see something, you feel
• 30:51
  like is not performing. You need to go put the screws to
• 30:54
  the coach. If there is an element of this
• 30:56
  team that you feel is underperforming, not looking
• 30:59
  good. Have a talk and I think you'll
• 31:02
  see that. I think I think over the next
• 31:05
  five years If there is a specific unit underperforming
• 31:09
  for more than two, I think we're going to see turnover.
• 31:13
  I don't think we're going to see.
• 31:15
  We'll just we'll just try to get there.
• 31:17
  No it's no longer about trying to get there.
• 31:18
  It's trying to get back where we were because the way college
• 31:22
  football is shaping up where we were Is a chance to win national
• 31:28
  titles again, dip where we were and where I say where we were as
• 31:32
  which is being a top 15 team. The way everything's looking for
• 31:36
  Collegiate football. If your top 15 team, you have
• 31:38
  chances to win national titles again, and that's what we want.
• 31:42
  Yep. You at least have the chance to
• 31:44
  play some games to get there. Damn, right.
• 31:48
  All right, buddy, who so what time was it?
• 31:53
  Did you text me this afternoon? And you were like, holy crap.
• 31:56
  Crap, did you see the bleep on corn?
• 31:59
  It was about what 2:30 3:00. Yeah.
• 32:01
  I think a little after 3:00 because I was I had to run a few
• 32:04
  errands after I got off work. And I was like, no I didn't but
• 32:08
  then I read it and you got the article up, right?
• 32:12
  Let's start with a few coats. Shout out, Mike knows Olek
• 32:15
  helluva work. First of all, we're not ignoring
• 32:18
  the other pieces of the article, but a lot of the other pieces
• 32:21
  people knew about, right? We either knew about or it was
• 32:26
  Heavily speculated it was more of a you might have a differing
• 32:31
  opinion of how things went down, but it was common knowledge.
• 32:34
  That this is what it was. The closest thing that was
• 32:38
  coming to this was dried Evans on Don talking about, there were
• 32:43
  some plays where it was. I had one read.
• 32:46
  If it was not open Iran. That was the play.
• 32:49
  Yep. Okay this goes that was just
• 32:53
  like scratching the surface. I mean it pretty much took what
• 32:58
  Gerard said in like blew it up. Big picture and I'll just read
• 33:02
  it straight from the horse's mouth here.
• 33:04
  They're getting credit Mike, mrs.
• 33:06
  Olech Roanoke Times you have you've got, okay, this is a
• 33:12
  quote from a source here. You've got to let your
• 33:14
  quarterback, be your quarterback.
• 33:17
  There wasn't autonomy to read the defense on a run option.
• 33:21
  He would tell the quarterback, whether he should hand it off or
• 33:23
  run. You can't manage that.
• 33:25
  We piece of it. It goes on to say core Nelson
• 33:28
  would also dictate where his quarterbacks needed to throw on
• 33:32
  passing plays before the snap. And this is the bitch of it.
• 33:36
  Criticize them for passing elsewhere.
• 33:38
  Even if the intended target was covered a source ran through
• 33:41
  multiple instances for the Roanoke Times of when Burmeister
• 33:45
  was ripped this fall, for making a positive play, only because
• 33:49
  the ball went to a different receiver than core Nelson,
• 33:51
  wanted. It's frustrating because there's
• 33:54
  tremendous football team. Are a source set and this this
• 33:59
  got me lit. I know got you lit.
• 34:02
  What? This got me lit.
• 34:03
  How many times the first four weeks of the Season?
• 34:05
  Brian. Did you say?
• 34:07
  I don't think there's a reading this.
• 34:09
  I think it's a, it's a damn hand off when it should be a read
• 34:13
  that ends crashing. Fractions.
• 34:15
  Got 40 down the sideline. You were hot about that crap.
• 34:18
  You know, we talked about it. We said like almost 90, 90 to
• 34:22
  100 percent of the time. It was either design.
• 34:25
  Keep or design give and most of the time in the early season, it
• 34:28
  was designed give and we also talked about in the passing game
• 34:34
  Braxton keying on one. Receiver a lot, a whole lot D.
• 34:39
  See ya, in play the tabi on when Caleb Smith is running that
• 34:44
  10-yard in and he's wide open. Yeah, it is, there was a bunch
• 34:50
  two instances that we talked about and we've talked about it
• 34:53
  in Pre talked about, at the end of last year, even some with
• 34:57
  with Hendon. But we saw it a lot more, a lot
• 35:00
  more this year with in terms of the, the Run game, and yeah.
• 35:03
  Okay. So I'll say this, you're going
• 35:05
  to have plays where after the check with me, you're going to
• 35:09
  say we're giving it 100%, but there's reasons for that, right?
• 35:14
  So if I get a base look, With a, with an icy to high safety.
• 35:21
  Yeah. I'm probably going to give it to
• 35:22
  the running back because there's probably going to be space in
• 35:25
  between the tackles for him to make a big run.
• 35:29
  Right. Yeah, that makes sense, right?
• 35:33
  All right, so that that's when something like that makes sense
• 35:36
  and you're going to have a check for that and you might have a
• 35:39
  check if you've seen the defensive end crashing down
• 35:42
  every damn time, you hand the ball off.
• 35:44
  Hey, we're keeping it this time. There's going to be instances
• 35:47
  like that. What there isn't is taking the
• 35:50
  entire read element out of those plays 100% Stock and Barrel.
• 35:57
  Can I say it? It sounds like to me.
• 36:00
  You got a mini apollyon up in the booth who wants to dictate
• 36:04
  and have control over, absolutely everything.
• 36:09
  Micromanaging, the quarterback and I said it, I said it earlier
• 36:12
  it's it was damned if you do damned if you don't, because we
• 36:16
  talked about Hendon last year and he talked about Braxton this
• 36:19
  year and I think the I think the difference is that Hendon was
• 36:23
  willing to go off script. Yeah.
• 36:26
  And I think that that ultimately got him in the dog house which
• 36:30
  That damn shame because it's just a kid making a play.
• 36:34
  But in this situation you're damned if you do damned if you
• 36:36
  don't. If you're getting ripped by
• 36:39
  cornelison, if you throw a ball where he wants it and that guys
• 36:43
  covered and then it ends up in a turnover.
• 36:45
  If you'd if you throw it to the guy, that's opencore Nelson is
• 36:48
  rapping. If you throw it and it ends up
• 36:50
  in a turnover or a bad play 110, Foose rapid your ass.
• 36:54
  So you getting your ass ripped either way.
• 36:57
  You might as well go out there and make the right play and that
• 37:00
  and that's probably what hooker did most of the time.
• 37:01
  Can I ask this in? Let's go back to 2019.
• 37:06
  How much of it do you think? At that point in time this was
• 37:10
  going on in white Hendon, didn't get the start to beginning of
• 37:13
  the Season. Think about everything we heard
• 37:16
  about keeping running dictating every single term where the
• 37:22
  reports were well, sometimes he doesn't look good in practice,
• 37:25
  was it? Because in practice, he was
• 37:26
  told, well, this guy who you're on a 10 yard out he gets up
• 37:30
  there and he sees well they're running covered to he's going to
• 37:32
  be right underneath my fast lane but we're running, we're
• 37:36
  running. You know, Dalton's coming up and
• 37:39
  run in a 10-yard hitch, I can squeeze it right between these
• 37:42
  two, linebackers back to a pic over here, and maybe that's
• 37:46
  what. Brad didn't like told you throw
• 37:47
  it over here, go to this guy. What this says to me can in you
• 37:54
  made a tweet earlier about a high school somewhere in the
• 37:58
  midwest this sounds exactly what like a high school Offensive
• 38:01
  Coordinator would do know it. Sounds worse, Middle School,
• 38:05
  I've coached eyes. School, coaches at high school,
• 38:08
  give players with a lot, less ability, way more responsibility
• 38:14
  in these types of offenses. It's sad.
• 38:19
  It is sad. You can't micromanage that much
• 38:24
  and you, I mean, he'll we, when I was coaching, we ran a damn
• 38:28
  flexbone and our quarterback had more autonomy in the passing
• 38:31
  game. Then they're given Braxton
• 38:33
  Burmeister And now, you branch has been getting ripped left and
• 38:41
  right. Right.
• 38:42
  And while you sit here and say shit maybe Braxton is not as,
• 38:47
  you know, in the past game, maybe he's not as bad as we
• 38:49
  thought or he's. He's thinking so damn much
• 38:52
  because he's got someone micromanaging his game.
• 38:56
  Come look here gets under Center sees.
• 38:59
  They're going to run a zero Blitz.
• 39:02
  The worst corners on my second best receiver.
• 39:05
  Well, I'm not going to trade who's getting pressed.
• 39:08
  They're playing off on teh and he's running a slant.
• 39:11
  What why do you want to throw the tray?
• 39:13
  Well, that is. Why does he want to throw to the
• 39:15
  wrong guy? Yeah, I mean branches arm is
• 39:17
  going to always be Braxton's arm but everything else.
• 39:20
  I mean that goes back to Cornell so either directly or indirectly
• 39:23
  either he's not doing a good job of teaching.
• 39:26
  Teaching his quarterback or he's making his quarterback place so
• 39:29
  tight that he's not getting it done.
• 39:32
  Probably both. Alright Braun well let's move
• 39:35
  on. We're going to get off the
• 39:36
  subject tonight maybe in the future next few months here
• 39:43
  we'll talk a little bit more about the Justin Fuente era and
• 39:46
  other things, I'm sure things will be coming out will be
• 39:48
  discussing but might have some things for you all in the
• 39:52
  future. You definitely want to tune
• 39:53
  into, but let's talk about a couple good things.
• 39:56
  Bryan Adams Monster Day on Saturday.
• 40:01
  Rahim Blackshear, he jccc running back of the week.
• 40:06
  Well deserved. Yep, it finally happened.
• 40:10
  Ladies and gentlemen, he had a big day.
• 40:13
  I was happy. I was, I was Big Happy.
• 40:17
  I've been, I've been on this kids, I've been on his name for
• 40:23
  two years now. I knew he had this type of game
• 40:26
  and him. I'm glad to see it coming to
• 40:28
  fruition. Hopefully, we'll see some more
• 40:30
  of that these last two weeks where he finishes out, strong
• 40:34
  here. Yep.
• 40:37
  But hopefully great job. I mean great performance and the
• 40:40
  running game. Good job in the passing game.
• 40:43
  He really put all of his abilities together in one game,
• 40:47
  and I think that's really the thing that he's been missing is
• 40:50
  he's had a game or two where he hit 80 yards, rushing, but
• 40:54
  didn't it was all focused on the Run.
• 40:56
  He didn't get a lot of touches in the passing game.
• 40:59
  He's had big big games where he caught the ball but didn't
• 41:02
  really get a lot of look in the running game or wasn't
• 41:04
  effective. He was effective in both Parts
• 41:07
  of that game this week and that was big for him.
• 41:10
  Exactly. So good on him.
• 41:13
  Regardless what happens? I know he did the senior day
• 41:15
  ceremony in you know obviously we're seeing a little more and
• 41:20
  more guys we know are going to be gone.
• 41:21
  Now we start seeing guys that are accepting Senior Bowl invite
• 41:27
  so many know what something really stinks but you know it is
• 41:31
  what it is. We'll discuss more on them at
• 41:35
  later dates as we get Closer, a try to watch those games.
• 41:39
  Hopefully, those guys have great weeks in Berlin.
• 41:43
  Did you watch them hope these hoops since like I did?
• 41:46
  I did impressive win over Navy. Yeah.
• 41:50
  When will the Annapolis and kind of dominated that game from the
• 41:54
  opening tip? Yes, start to finish and they
• 41:58
  really shut down their best shooter and had a pretty good
• 42:02
  shooting night themselves, a couple flashy plays and then we
• 42:06
  had the The Radford win, which first half was a, was a slog
• 42:11
  offensively. They still play very well
• 42:13
  defensively but was kind of a slog on the, on the offensive
• 42:17
  end, but picked it up a lot in the second half.
• 42:20
  Finish strong, good wind, they have the storm Murphy to Justin
• 42:25
  mutts nutmeg alley-oop. The nutmeg aleut SportsCenter.
• 42:30
  Wasn't that the one play of the top top play-by-play man.
• 42:35
  Also with that game though because of how the slog was in
• 42:39
  the first thing. You just said it how they play
• 42:41
  defense. I think it tells a lot about
• 42:44
  Mike young in about the team overall that this team believe
• 42:49
  that if they don't have the best night shooting or best, start
• 42:52
  shooting play hard defense, keep us in the game, dip the Piston,
• 42:57
  the shots will fall don't Don't let don't let a loss on the
• 43:01
  offensive end, beat you on the defense event.
• 43:04
  The Hokies are 3 and 0 and ranked 26th in the country.
• 43:09
  I'm trying to figure that out especially with quite a few
• 43:12
  teams losing and you know you know we're at that time of year
• 43:17
  where it's a lot of out of conference stuff so you know the
• 43:21
  next game is going to be tomorrow things tomorrow night.
• 43:24
  Get it up here. Yep.
• 43:26
  Tomorrow night 8:00, get st. Francis so Of Pennsylvania.
• 43:32
  And then let's take a look here. Oh, the next one.
• 43:35
  That's the Memphis. That's the big one.
• 43:38
  There's three because there's Merrimack Sunday.
• 43:40
  Everybody going to go up to that game.
• 43:42
  Four o'clock tip and then Wednesday night as we press
• 43:46
  record for hate week, part to the Memphis game tip, so that
• 43:52
  will probably be firmly right here for me to watch.
• 43:56
  And I'm sure it'll be right there for you to watch so and
• 44:02
  then it's Maryland after that. So really you kind of have to
• 44:06
  easy ones with a couple back-to-back hard ones in the
• 44:08
  same week, you know, basically a week apart, so definitely
• 44:13
  exciting time. Times.
• 44:15
  Yeah, we'll know a whole lot about this team.
• 44:17
  I think by, you know, Thursday morning next week because that
• 44:22
  Memphis game is going to be a big measuring stick in terms of
• 44:28
  where they are right now, right? Oh absolutely and obviously
• 44:32
  playing nollie, right? Yep.
• 44:36
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  we get to Know The Enemy, by the way, kind of a For the cookie
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  basketball Maryland's. On the first 810, perennial
• 45:26
  solid team. Dayton on the 12th. 8:10
• 45:30
  defending Champion. Steve Bonnie on the 17th and you
• 45:35
  can Carolina to close out the month of December.
• 45:38
  Both on the road. So we will.
• 45:41
  When Jen, when the New Year rolls around, we will denote
• 45:44
  everything. We need to know about the
• 45:45
  hoagies basketball team. But Brian, let's talk a little
• 45:48
  more about the Hokies football team.
• 45:50
  Know The Enemy? Let's talk about the Miami
• 45:52
  Hurricanes before we get into the players.
• 45:55
  Brian, let's give just a quick oversight.
• 45:57
  What kind of Defense are we looking at here?
• 46:00
  Yeah, this is a four to five pressure defense, the main EDS
• 46:04
  special. They want to create the the so
• 46:07
  call Havoc stats with their pressure packages.
• 46:11
  They want that turnover chain out early and often but they're
• 46:17
  still very undisciplined, especially on the defensive side
• 46:21
  of the ball. Yeah, Manny Diaz.
• 46:23
  Definitely the architect of it to various Robinson the
• 46:27
  coordinator there, and let's start Brian.
• 46:29
  Let's start on the outside. Let's look at the corners.
• 46:31
  We're also getting a corner to Corey couch, 510, 170 lb corner
• 46:38
  so far this year, twenty six tackles no pics, but a good
• 46:42
  number five pass deflections. He was a composite for star and
• 46:46
  a Hollywood Florida. When he came out, what is the
• 46:49
  tape telling us on to Corey? They use three corners but he's
• 46:54
  probably the most balanced of the three.
• 46:56
  He's good in zone. Good in man.
• 47:00
  Good against the run. Good at pretty good at setting
• 47:03
  the edge when he's asked for that responsibility.
• 47:06
  He's not really a lead in any one of those areas he will give
• 47:09
  up some catches but he's really the guy that they lean on to
• 47:14
  match up against some of the better receivers on the other
• 47:17
  side of the ball. All right.
• 47:21
  Do you think he'll be entree or do you think it's going to be?
• 47:26
  Or is it going to be a mishmash of where L we are on the field?
• 47:32
  They usually go kind of left and right.
• 47:35
  So depending on where he's where, he's come in at because
• 47:39
  again, they do rate, rotate three.
• 47:41
  He'll usually stay on the same side of the ball obviously
• 47:44
  depending on what the coverage is and then he sort of motion.
• 47:47
  There might be some switches there.
• 47:49
  But okay, Gandhi. Tell he tends to stay on the
• 47:51
  same side of the ball. Got it, got it.
• 47:53
  Alright, let's look on the defensive line now.
• 47:56
  On Jafari Harvey at a Vero Beach, High School in Fort
• 48:00
  Pierce. Florida, six foot four 252
• 48:03
  pounds, defensive end, he was a four-star when he came out, he
• 48:06
  was a top-10 defensive, a weekend defensive end so far
• 48:11
  this season 21, tackles two and a half sacks four-and-a-half.
• 48:17
  Tackles for loss. So, total seven tackles for
• 48:19
  loss, he also had a interception return for a touchdown.
• 48:23
  Looks like that prototypical build.
• 48:25
  What are we seeing? Take from him.
• 48:28
  And how much, how much, how much emphasis is the offensive line
• 48:33
  going to have to pay attention to him?
• 48:36
  The only to give him some notice, he's a guy that kind of
• 48:38
  flew up the depth chart. With those three, Big D ends
• 48:42
  that left the program last year for the draft.
• 48:46
  He's their primary Russian. They're not Elite at that
• 48:49
  position group this year, like they've been in the last two to
• 48:53
  three years but he's the best of the bunch, he's good at setting
• 48:56
  the edge in the Run above average, pursuit in the Run game
• 49:01
  but he's primarily going to be the pass rush specialist he's
• 49:04
  not out there. Again, getting a bunch of sacks
• 49:08
  like Phillips, or Roche were last year or Russo as well.
• 49:13
  You know, the year before, but he is a guy that is very solid
• 49:20
  in his past Russian steady, and has got a chance to get get in
• 49:24
  the backfield there and cause some Havoc, I got you now,
• 49:27
  Brian, are we going to see him on Luke to new decide or parker?
• 49:31
  Come inside clouds, Dandy stutters.
• 49:34
  He a mixed bag Kind of a mixed bag but more or less.
• 49:38
  He's going to stay on the the right hand side of the defense.
• 49:43
  So he's going to be going against Luke then.
• 49:46
  So we know someone Luke's issues.
• 49:49
  Does he have that in his tool bag or is?
• 49:52
  It is tool bag? It's just not an effective tool.
• 49:56
  Like I said, it's kind of, it's above average.
• 49:58
  I mean, he's got a good speed rush.
• 49:59
  He's got a couple moves again. Nothing is Elite.
• 50:02
  Nothing jumps off the tape. Like you're not you're not
• 50:05
  looking at a jail on Phillips or like a Quincy rachet or anybody
• 50:11
  like that. I mean he's probably The a step
• 50:13
  below where Roche was at this point last year, okay?
• 50:16
  Good to know. Good to know again.
• 50:19
  The more, you know, out there. All right, Brian.
• 50:21
  Well, let's take a look at another guy in the secondary
• 50:25
  Cameron kitchens out of Northwest High School in Miami,
• 50:27
  Florida, a 5-11 202 pounds safety.
• 50:31
  He is a true freshman. Starting a three-star 34,
• 50:36
  tackles only one for loss for pass deflections and a forced
• 50:41
  fumble. And obviously, he's got Really
• 50:43
  big shoes to fill in his position.
• 50:46
  Yeah he's been the primary starter at free safety.
• 50:49
  Since bubble bold and went down a few weeks back.
• 50:52
  He's done a pretty good job. He was getting some reps before
• 50:55
  that. He's not quite as a versatile
• 50:58
  player. As bubble was, he's not asked to
• 51:01
  do quite as much because of the way Bubba played.
• 51:06
  They could really do a lot with their secondary with their
• 51:10
  coverages and mixing things up. They're not Able to do quite as
• 51:14
  much as that he is. More of a prototypical, free
• 51:16
  safety than Bubba. Whereas Bubba more than likely
• 51:19
  he's going to be playing some sort of strong safety or hybrid
• 51:22
  in at the NFL level, but he is a very good tackler and he does do
• 51:26
  a good job of breaking on balls both in deep coverage and then
• 51:31
  breaking breaking towards the ball when the ball is thrown in
• 51:34
  front of him. So still very good at that but
• 51:37
  again not quite as versatile as above us so they can't do as
• 51:40
  much in the back end. So I'm guessing probably
• 51:44
  whatever where you saw bold and move up down round occasionally
• 51:48
  cover a guy. Whatever he is, is going to
• 51:52
  probably dictate a lot of what coverage they're running for
• 51:54
  that specific play. They're doing a lot less of man
• 51:59
  at the line with him. It's either he's going to be
• 52:03
  deep guy, he's going to be dropping into into the box and
• 52:07
  some sort of inverted cover to. There's there's a couple things
• 52:11
  they do with them but they Play him at the line of scrimmage
• 52:13
  like they would bubble on occasion.
• 52:15
  Okay, makes sense. All right, well, let's look at
• 52:19
  one other guy for get into a little bit more stats here.
• 52:21
  Corey flag jr. He's me the 5-11 230-pound
• 52:27
  linebacker, kind of steady season going so far, forty five,
• 52:31
  tackles three sacks, two additional tackles for loss of
• 52:34
  five. Total a pick a Houston Texas -
• 52:38
  out of North Shore. High School was just A myth 3
• 52:42
  story came out and believe it or not is want to Bow Davidson's
• 52:46
  drops. He did have an offer from VT,
• 52:50
  yeah, this is there. Mike linebacker and he does a
• 52:55
  good job, he's a good athlete. He runs pretty well.
• 52:58
  Sideline to sideline, where he excels though and we talked
• 53:01
  about those pressure packages. Those Manny Diaz pressure
• 53:04
  packages. He is very good when blitzing,
• 53:07
  whether it's delay, Blitz. Whether it's just firing the a
• 53:10
  gap. He comes in there really fast
• 53:14
  and hard is able to get to the quarterback.
• 53:16
  Several times puts pressure on the quarterback to get rid of
• 53:20
  the ball before, he's ready have to scramble early and the down.
• 53:24
  So he does a lot really well with that but he can get
• 53:27
  influence into mistakes. He will occasionally get out of
• 53:31
  his out of his, his Gap. He will occasionally lose
• 53:36
  leverage when he's got some sort of outside contained
• 53:39
  responsibility. So there's there's areas there.
• 53:42
  We can take advantage of him there but he does a good job for
• 53:45
  a young kid called the defense from The Mike linebacker
• 53:48
  position. All right, real quick question I
• 53:50
  don't know if you noticed it on tape 7 and Steed.
• 53:54
  I saw he was a linebacker to is he more their weak side or like
• 53:57
  their back or type guy? Yeah, he's there backer.
• 54:00
  He handles that responsibility. So yeah and he's not I'd say not
• 54:07
  quite as high of a ceiling as as flag has Okay, if he's kind of
• 54:13
  more of it, more of a steady Eddie.
• 54:15
  Okay. Sometimes guys, we can't go
• 54:18
  through every play, we have to pick and choose and we look at I
• 54:22
  look at the statistical data. Look at where they are coming
• 54:26
  out. Brian looks to tape sometimes.
• 54:27
  He'll ring me and say, give me more info on this guy because
• 54:33
  this guy stats are good, but he's the cleaner.
• 54:36
  Yellow flag is also on the field.
• 54:39
  Every much, every snap whereas Steve is rotating Heavily.
• 54:42
  Okay. Okay, well good on me to go flag
• 54:46
  over Steve. Here are a couple things to
• 54:49
  testicle e. We got to know about my only
• 54:51
  defense, this is not a good defense.
• 54:53
  We should score points on this defense.
• 54:56
  They literally undisciplined lots of flags.
• 54:59
  Lots of Bloom coverage, has lots of being out of position in the
• 55:03
  Run game, there will be opportunities.
• 55:05
  Now when they are clicking, they've got athlete's so it
• 55:10
  looks really good but when they are off you can do a lot of
• 55:14
  things against them and you can't and people have done
• 55:16
  things all year against them. They are the worst red zone
• 55:20
  defense in the country. They are 130 of one actually.
• 55:25
  There t 129 because Arizona is just as bad in Arizona is an
• 55:29
  absolutely shit, show out in out in the Pac-12 right now.
• 55:35
  But basically if you get inside the 20, You score, ninety-seven
• 55:39
  percent of the time? 97 percent of time.
• 55:44
  They're pasty is 115 in the country.
• 55:47
  They're given up a ton of pass yards.
• 55:49
  There. Run defense is better but it's
• 55:51
  still middle of the packets not Elite at all.
• 55:56
  And lastly, they're giving up almost 30 points, a game, which
• 56:01
  is again in the bottom half. So this isn't a good defense.
• 56:09
  Nope, if hate to say this, I don't know, buddy.
• 56:13
  I don't know the autonomy. The JC price has if we don't get
• 56:16
  to like 30 plus on this team, he should fire cornelison.
• 56:21
  He should just move. Yeah.
• 56:24
  If I'm j.c. price, what what degree can I fire?
• 56:27
  People, I'm fully on pulling pulling the Dwight card
• 56:32
  assistant to the regional manager.
• 56:33
  Can I fire people do? I have that Authority?
• 56:38
  That's all. All right, Brian.
• 56:40
  Well, let's, um, let's flip and take a look at their offense,
• 56:43
  you know, retinol, Ashlee Steele, the o.c. right dip.
• 56:47
  Did you get fired? All right, so what are we seeing
• 56:50
  from the lashley's offense? Yes, so they primarily come out
• 56:54
  in 11 personnel, even in to tight end packages.
• 56:58
  One of those tight ends is usually flexed.
• 56:59
  So they're essentially subbing in a tight end for their slot or
• 57:05
  one of their other outside receivers.
• 57:07
  It's kind of that RPO a little bit of are a Concepts.
• 57:11
  The big, the big player. We're looking at out of the gate
• 57:15
  that we really need to shut down.
• 57:17
  If because, while they have three very talented Layers in
• 57:23
  the passing game. If they are able to run the
• 57:26
  ball, consistently that passing game opens up significantly.
• 57:29
  So Jaylen night running back. He's not a home run hitter but
• 57:35
  he is a guy that consistently gets positive yards in the
• 57:39
  running game and when they're able to do that and stay ahead
• 57:43
  of the sticks that that's when that are eight is really able to
• 57:46
  shine, like I said, more of a grind, it out, type back, and he
• 57:52
  will be used. The screen game occasionally but
• 57:54
  it's not his specialty. They'll swing it out to him and
• 57:57
  out of the backfield as well, but he's more or less kind of
• 58:01
  between the tackles will get outside but he's a guy that's
• 58:06
  going to get them some good yardage on first and second
• 58:09
  down, set them up really good where they can let those skilled
• 58:13
  receivers make plays when they've got the whole field of
• 58:17
  work with. Yeah, you know, night and took
• 58:20
  over for Cameron Harris. As you know, damanhur there's
• 58:24
  obviously was having a really good season, you know, almost
• 58:27
  averaging six yards, a carry before he got banged up but 90,
• 58:31
  no slouch. I mean, 510 190.
• 58:33
  He was a top 154 star when he came out of Deerfield Beach,
• 58:36
  Florida. You know Brian's already talked
• 58:39
  about, he's not that home run hitter and it shows in the
• 58:42
  statistics he's only averaging four point two per carry.
• 58:45
  So, he's in that four to five range, 493 yards. 55 see me five
• 58:50
  touchdowns Brian mentioned he does have some past game
• 58:54
  capabilities, he does and it kind of shows Brian when you
• 58:59
  talk about more than the screen game, he's only got 15.
• 59:01
  Receptions 230 yards though. So when he gets those he can
• 59:07
  turn them into significantly. Profession are significantly
• 59:12
  product 'full catches three TVs there.
• 59:16
  So definitely a guy we've got to contain Because, you know, the
• 59:23
  425 is we always say five. If it's four to five, I think
• 59:30
  you highlighted run. He's getting seven, he's getting
• 59:34
  eight, he's getting three. He's not getting 18, he's not
• 59:37
  getting 17. So, really key there because
• 59:43
  when you have a Young quarterback, who we talk about
• 59:45
  next, Tyler Van Dyke, you've got to have some semblance of a
• 59:49
  running game and in Van Dyke, don't get me wrong talented, kid
• 59:53
  composite for star was the top player in Connecticut when he
• 59:56
  came out. Out 64, 220 for good-sized solid
• 1:00:02
  step so far for his first year. 61 percent completion.
• 1:00:07
  Nine and a half per tempt. I really like that number 21, 93
• 1:00:12
  yards, 19, touchdown, six interceptions.
• 1:00:16
  The one thing I noticed did not have much rushing stats crime
• 1:00:19
  is, is he got a little wiggle or see more of a statue back there?
• 1:00:25
  Not so much a statue but there. Our offense is designed to get
• 1:00:28
  the ball out of his hands quick. He will occasionally try to
• 1:00:33
  scramble to get some yards if something isn't there but he is
• 1:00:36
  definitely trying to sling the ball down the field.
• 1:00:39
  Okay. And I mean he's pretty accurate
• 1:00:42
  with the football so that's that's the big thing.
• 1:00:44
  We're going to start off with. He's got good accuracy, he
• 1:00:48
  doesn't have a super strong arm but he can make all the throws
• 1:00:51
  at the offense requires of him. But the biggest thing that I
• 1:00:55
  noticed that he's very much a rhythm quarterback.
• 1:00:59
  So when he's hitting he's very hard to stop.
• 1:01:03
  If you get him off his game, it can affect the next play.
• 1:01:07
  It can affect the easy throws. All of that.
• 1:01:10
  So I think that's the thing we need to think about as we're
• 1:01:14
  approaching him from a defense perspective is, how can we keep
• 1:01:17
  him out of rhythm? What can we do to make him Miss
• 1:01:21
  and then that Miss caused him to make a mess?
• 1:01:25
  Okay, those unforced errors. So that that's the big thing we
• 1:01:28
  need to focus on because if when he gets in Rhythm he's very good
• 1:01:31
  but when he's out of rhythm, it's very hit-or-miss and he is
• 1:01:35
  prone to some under throws if he can't step in.
• 1:01:37
  So getting pressure in his face. Is going to be important to
• 1:01:40
  hopefully make him make some mistakes with the football and
• 1:01:44
  he will occasionally take some Chances with the football.
• 1:01:46
  He takes some calculated risk with the football.
• 1:01:48
  So there will be opportunities to get an interception.
• 1:01:50
  He doesn't throw a ton, but he did have a couple big ones
• 1:01:55
  against FS you last week. All right.
• 1:02:01
  Let's flip over Brawn. Let's talk about the offensive
• 1:02:03
  line. Let's do a quick review of them
• 1:02:07
  just a couple season just a couple things you know the team
• 1:02:12
  itself is 94th in rushing not really a good Russian teen.
• 1:02:17
  Even with the numbers hairs just pulling up earlier in the season
• 1:02:20
  they're giving up sex. Even when you talk about what
• 1:02:24
  you'd probably worried Miami fans more than us and make us
• 1:02:28
  kind of know. Open our eyes and dies, get big,
• 1:02:33
  you're talking about this, RPO quick.
• 1:02:36
  Throat are a type offense. Usually, that's done to prevent
• 1:02:40
  sacks Troy right? Prevent sex.
• 1:02:44
  There are 113 in the nation in sacks allowed, they've given up
• 1:02:50
  30, they're averaging 30 game you know close to 200 yards, 183
• 1:02:55
  yards, given up in those sacks. What did you see on tape?
• 1:03:01
  Because the the staff say they've got some, got some
• 1:03:06
  struggles. Yeah, I mean, I'd say their
• 1:03:09
  password was actually a little bit better than average but
• 1:03:14
  because they run the RPO and because they were accustomed to
• 1:03:21
  Quarterback like dear King that while he much preferred to throw
• 1:03:25
  the ball from the pocket. If things weren't there, he had
• 1:03:29
  the athletic ability to escape get some first downs, at least
• 1:03:34
  avoid the sacks, things like that.
• 1:03:36
  So with Van Dyke back there, that's a different story.
• 1:03:42
  So they're giving a more Sykes sex.
• 1:03:45
  As a result of you don't have a guy that can kind of put a
• 1:03:50
  Band-Aid on some of those blemishes in the passing game.
• 1:03:52
  Now, they are below average in run blocking and it shows on the
• 1:03:59
  tape. They do an okay job of getting a
• 1:04:03
  decent push where they can get some yardage but they don't get
• 1:04:07
  to the second level very well. So a lot of these gains you
• 1:04:11
  know, we talked about it with The with the average per carry,
• 1:04:14
  they're not getting past the linebackers.
• 1:04:18
  When they go up the middle they're not getting past the
• 1:04:20
  guys controlling The Spill area when it gets spilled outside.
• 1:04:24
  So I'm actually a question. Yep, just looking at the tape
• 1:04:28
  that you look at the last few days.
• 1:04:30
  Is this, just is this limitation athletically or is this just
• 1:04:33
  terrible technique? It's a little bit of both, I'd
• 1:04:39
  say more more technique. I think, you know, we're talking
• 1:04:43
  about Miami and this, this isn't a knock-on necessarily Manny
• 1:04:47
  Diaz but it really goes back several several Cycles.
• 1:04:52
  Just Miami overall being an undisciplined team on both sides
• 1:04:55
  of the football, and I don't know if it's just attention to
• 1:04:59
  detail or whatever it is, but they have ability but they're
• 1:05:03
  not always consistent with it. They're not consistent with
• 1:05:05
  their Technique and this is part of what's going on with their
• 1:05:08
  offensive line is that they'll have those really good snaps and
• 1:05:12
  then they have bad snaps but as an offensive line that's a
• 1:05:15
  bigger fucking issue because you got to have five guys working.
• 1:05:17
  Together makes sense, right? Yep.
• 1:05:24
  All right, bro. One thing they one thing they do
• 1:05:26
  when they throw some of those bubble screens, they do full cut
• 1:05:30
  like five guys, cutting lineman's knees.
• 1:05:34
  So that's one thing to look for. It's going to frustrate the shit
• 1:05:38
  out of some defensive linemen, so hopefully we don't get any
• 1:05:43
  stupid personal fouls because of that shit.
• 1:05:45
  But you know, it is what it is but more than likely they'll
• 1:05:49
  return, the favor on the personal foul side.
• 1:05:51
  So there's, you know, it might be Offsetting penalties and all
• 1:05:56
  these will offset replay the down.
• 1:05:58
  All right, Brian. Let's take a look quick at three
• 1:06:00
  targets for Van Dyke here. I want to start with the
• 1:06:03
  Oklahoma transfer Carlton. Rambo is a composite forced our
• 1:06:08
  top 30 wide receiver. When he came out he was at
• 1:06:11
  Oklahoma, for three seasons had decent numbers little over 1,100
• 1:06:14
  yards, 9 touchdowns obviously transferred out of there because
• 1:06:17
  they're always Rolling In You wideouts.
• 1:06:20
  Really tearing it up this year really showing out 64.
• 1:06:24
  Receptions, 950 44 yards, almost averaging, 15 yards, perceptions
• 1:06:30
  and five touchdowns 61 185. What did you see on tape from a
• 1:06:36
  really cool name? Yeah, he's got a cool name,
• 1:06:40
  right? Rambo as I mean, all that, it's
• 1:06:43
  kind of hard to kind of kind of hard to beat that.
• 1:06:45
  Yeah, he is their best outside receiver.
• 1:06:47
  Yeah, best outside receiver, he's Our primary deep threat,
• 1:06:51
  he's our primary big-play weapon.
• 1:06:53
  If they need plays down the field, that's who they're
• 1:06:55
  targeting. He's got great hands and does a
• 1:06:57
  good job of high point of the ball, if it's thrown up in
• 1:07:01
  one-on-one situations but he can be taken out of the game with
• 1:07:04
  some bracket coverage. We saw FSU employed that a lot,
• 1:07:09
  especially in the first half, they figured out how to kind of
• 1:07:13
  work around that in the second half last week, but they were
• 1:07:17
  able to kind of slow him down for the majority of the first
• 1:07:20
  half. F with that bracket coverage,
• 1:07:22
  keeping a safety over the top. So that might be something that
• 1:07:25
  we look at doing as well, but if we're not able to do that, he
• 1:07:31
  will eat, can throw some big plays on the board in the, in
• 1:07:34
  the passing game. Alright, you anticipate wall,
• 1:07:38
  we're on him. Yeah, as much as possible.
• 1:07:43
  All right, all right. Let's take a look next at Mike,
• 1:07:46
  Harley a five foot eleven hundred 82 pounds wide receiver
• 1:07:52
  382 for the year yard watch 41, receptions for touchdowns a
• 1:07:57
  four-star out of st. Thomas Aquinas, one of the big
• 1:08:00
  high schools down in the State of Florida.
• 1:08:02
  I'm just looking based on size. Is he the slot guy or she played
• 1:08:06
  some other positions to he is the slot guy.
• 1:08:08
  Yes, sir. You are correct.
• 1:08:10
  They like him on quick, Slant six, bubbles digs outs, shallow
• 1:08:15
  crossers. The Usual Suspects in that air
• 1:08:19
  raid. And they'll occasionally send
• 1:08:21
  him on a non deep like a seam or something like that, but they
• 1:08:24
  really liked his underneath quickness.
• 1:08:26
  It gives them a good Target to get the ball out of Van Dyke's
• 1:08:29
  hands quickly. So he's that guy.
• 1:08:31
  That is the either the primary right route for Van Dyke or the
• 1:08:36
  primary check down in most of those route Concepts.
• 1:08:42
  Well, you talked about them being a too tight end set.
• 1:08:45
  Is it just the way the formation set up that he regardless of
• 1:08:48
  whether they're in a to tight end set or not?
• 1:08:50
  He's In some sort of slight variation?
• 1:08:53
  Yes, a lot of times when they'll Flex there, they'll bring on an
• 1:08:57
  extra tight end, but that sometimes they'll take off Smith
• 1:08:59
  who was the other primary outside wide receiver for that
• 1:09:03
  second tight end and still keep Harley on the field sometimes,
• 1:09:07
  Harley comes off but they're primarily they're primarily in
• 1:09:10
  11 personnel, most the game unless they're going into some
• 1:09:14
  sort of short yardage package, that's really the only time.
• 1:09:18
  They actually bring two tight ends in line.
• 1:09:21
  Goal line, situations, short short, yardage situations.
• 1:09:25
  Got it. Alright Bronn, tell me if you've
• 1:09:28
  heard this one 65 to 45 tight end.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah, I've heard that one before me every week, I swear to God,
• 1:09:36
  we had one of those when the season started we did and
• 1:09:41
  looking like, probably probably not coming back, which is let me
• 1:09:44
  say it. But will Mallory 65 to 45 tight
• 1:09:47
  end solid seasons and so forth. 24.
• 1:09:50
  Ian's 206 yards three touchdowns about 11:9 her reception from
• 1:09:55
  Jacksonville. Florida composite four-star, his
• 1:09:58
  dad has some lineage here, Dad was an NFL player back in the
• 1:10:02
  day, what are we seeing from Mallory?
• 1:10:05
  Is he the guy flexing or see the guy staying in live?
• 1:10:07
  Most of the time he will flex but he also is the number one in
• 1:10:13
  line guys. Well usually when they bring the
• 1:10:15
  other guy in he's more of a true.
• 1:10:17
  True blocker zelflex him out. To be a little more versatile
• 1:10:22
  but he's good with the stick, movers the Slants, the ends, the
• 1:10:25
  hitches, the drags, but they will send him on some some more
• 1:10:29
  unique routes seems and wheels to stretch the field.
• 1:10:33
  He caught a big wheel route up the sideline against Florida,
• 1:10:36
  state had some good run after the catch on that as well.
• 1:10:40
  So he's got some athleticism, he's not just a run, the route,
• 1:10:45
  catch it and go down type guy, he will get you some some yards
• 1:10:48
  after the catch. So he's somebody got a Watch for
• 1:10:51
  and he does pretty good in the red zone as well.
• 1:10:55
  All right, so there is sort of Know The Enemy, some players and
• 1:11:00
  things to look for from these players.
• 1:11:02
  As we do every week, we take a look at the version of the
• 1:11:05
  Hokies and we've gotten down to the lamba.
• 1:11:07
  We just keep redoing it. Redoing it, redoing it, some
• 1:11:11
  things, stay the same right, Brian?
• 1:11:13
  What's the one thing? Say the same.
• 1:11:15
  What stays the same options every week every week for a
• 1:11:19
  while now, continue the commitment to the running game
• 1:11:22
  Run and it's, it's Port in this week.
• 1:11:27
  We can talk a little bit more about that.
• 1:11:29
  You want to go into some details here.
• 1:11:32
  Why is it important? All right, so if you remember
• 1:11:35
  how we attacked this Miami team last year, we didn't run the
• 1:11:40
  ball. We took shots, we empty the
• 1:11:42
  backfield who didn't keep a lot of help in to help on Roche and
• 1:11:48
  Phillips. And we got our asses 8.
• 1:11:51
  We did even though they had lead in the fourth quarter.
• 1:11:54
  Yeah, which is what we were getting beat up.
• 1:11:56
  We were getting beat up. Any got pop several times that
• 1:11:58
  day I can remember. Yep.
• 1:12:00
  So that's how you lose to Miami. How you win against.
• 1:12:04
  Miami is establish the Run game. Keep them off balance.
• 1:12:08
  Don't let them tee off. And we should be able to be in a
• 1:12:14
  good position where we can still use the majority of our passing
• 1:12:17
  attack because we've been able to establish the Run.
• 1:12:20
  Well we got to I mean they're terrible against the pass.
• 1:12:23
  So I mean I have a feeling I know what you're going to say.
• 1:12:27
  What do we need to do this week? Passing attack needs to be
• 1:12:32
  similar to what we saw against do, using all parts of the field
• 1:12:36
  but take calculated shots because they will give up those
• 1:12:40
  big plays. Well, and they're going to
• 1:12:42
  challenge us at the line of scrimmage because of the way
• 1:12:44
  they play and like to attack and bring pressure.
• 1:12:47
  So we're going to have to hit some some shots, downfield when
• 1:12:50
  those opportunities are presented, but we also have to
• 1:12:53
  use the whole feel, especially the intermediate area to kind
• 1:12:58
  of, keep them off balance. So they're not expecting
• 1:13:01
  everything that every time we drop back that we're, you know,
• 1:13:04
  chucking it Chuck, it'll fade down the sideline.
• 1:13:09
  All right. If Brad's got anything left,
• 1:13:16
  he's got to right? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:18
  Brad, Carl Nelson. Better be emptying the damn
• 1:13:20
  clip. And that's for our sake, and
• 1:13:23
  that's for his sake because as I said, if he doesn't do something
• 1:13:28
  big, these next two weeks, he's going to be coaching at Nathan
• 1:13:30
  Hale High School in Tulsa. There you go.
• 1:13:37
  Empty the clip corn. Anything you got.
• 1:13:39
  Do it. If not Jase, he's going to fire
• 1:13:41
  you and leave you on the tarmac to other big things Brown.
• 1:13:46
  We've been talking about already talked about with the red zone
• 1:13:48
  defense, they're bad touchdowns touchdowns overfilled Gold's in
• 1:13:54
  the way it looks, you know, they're giving up touchdowns to
• 1:13:57
  feel gold. I don't like a two to one ratio,
• 1:14:00
  so you get down there. You have a better chance of
• 1:14:02
  scoring a touchdown in a Real gold, but we've got to push it
• 1:14:06
  in. We've got to put the pressure on
• 1:14:08
  them because of a not having an explosive running game.
• 1:14:14
  If we do it we did like we did against, you get a couple scores
• 1:14:17
  ahead. It's going to force Van Dyke to
• 1:14:20
  take the risk. It's going to force him to push
• 1:14:21
  the ball down which With not a really good offensive line that
• 1:14:26
  has some issues and only really one deep threat.
• 1:14:31
  It's going to get them uncomfortable quick.
• 1:14:32
  Right? Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  And you know, talk about touchdowns versus field goals,
• 1:14:38
  the only reason that the FSU Miami game was closed because in
• 1:14:42
  the first half FSU had a couple drives where they did did well
• 1:14:47
  and then got off the field and a couple drives where they had to
• 1:14:49
  settle for three. You know, that could have easily
• 1:14:54
  the way that that first half went that could have easily been
• 1:14:57
  a 28-nothing, Thirty One, nothing game at half but it
• 1:15:04
  wasn't 31-7. You know, whatever it maybe it
• 1:15:07
  could have been a big, big gap for them to clear it.
• 1:15:12
  I mean, ultimately Miami lost the game, but it came down to
• 1:15:16
  the damn wire where, you know, they could have stepped on their
• 1:15:18
  throats in the first half, they were able to finish a couple
• 1:15:21
  Extra drives. There we go.
• 1:15:24
  All right, last piece we've talked about Brian and now, it's
• 1:15:27
  even after what was revealed today even more important, got
• 1:15:32
  to keep racking up, right? We already know this, we don't
• 1:15:36
  have really the backups that can compete even less.
• 1:15:39
  So against although they have their Miss lapses, but an
• 1:15:43
  athletic, man, any defense against a backup quarterback,
• 1:15:46
  just spells disaster. Yeah, you want to make sure that
• 1:15:51
  if your quarterback is taking hits, it's because he's taking
• 1:15:54
  hits in the read option game making choices taking hits
• 1:15:58
  because he had wide open. Real Estate to take off and run.
• 1:16:02
  You don't want him taking big shots, standing in the pocket in
• 1:16:07
  the back field, that's what you don't want.
• 1:16:09
  You don't want him taking this unnecessary sacks, you don't
• 1:16:13
  want to give up sex. You want to limit the number of
• 1:16:16
  sacks limit, the number of hits on your quarterback.
• 1:16:19
  And make sure when he is getting hit, it's because of choices.
• 1:16:22
  He's made within the framework of the call.
• 1:16:25
  All right, let's flip over to defense front.
• 1:16:29
  I know something you love seeing last week was how the Gap
• 1:16:32
  Integrity, especially up in the front seven stage much better.
• 1:16:37
  He said, looked as good as it looks since you and see.
• 1:16:41
  And even though they don't have the best run line, Usage.
• 1:16:47
  Lee just told me like we we can't we can't slip.
• 1:16:51
  We can't give a team that doesn't do this.
• 1:16:54
  Well in opportunity to actually have some positives from this.
• 1:17:00
  Yeah, we want to keep them at or below their their average
• 1:17:05
  somewhere below that 4.5 range per carry.
• 1:17:09
  We want to make this as hard for them as possible.
• 1:17:12
  We want to make sure that they don't get chunk yardage or Good
• 1:17:15
  yardage on first downs. Consistently.
• 1:17:18
  And that's what FSU was able to do early in that game.
• 1:17:20
  And I know FSU has a pretty Elite defensive line but I think
• 1:17:24
  we should be able to do something similar with our
• 1:17:26
  defensive line and linebacker combination there.
• 1:17:29
  So I'm hoping that we're able to come out there.
• 1:17:31
  Maintain our gaps, keep make them earn every yard in the
• 1:17:35
  running game and then Force Van Dyke to have to go out there and
• 1:17:38
  make plays. Yep.
• 1:17:40
  And then you talk, you've kind of said this a couple times
• 1:17:44
  already Making plays and limited the big plays right horse them
• 1:17:49
  Drive. Yeah, we can't get beat by
• 1:17:52
  those. Those big plays to Rambo.
• 1:17:56
  You know, I'd much rather see us give up a bad third down.
• 1:18:03
  To Chris Harley, not Chris Harley not Crystal my Carly, I'm
• 1:18:09
  like barley. Yeah, yeah, I'd much rather give
• 1:18:14
  have them give up a first down of my Carly, doing something
• 1:18:17
  underneath and then hit a big play, because our defense has
• 1:18:20
  shown that if they give a first down, they'll come back and play
• 1:18:23
  the next three pretty damn hard. And sometimes that'll get us off
• 1:18:27
  the field. So, I'd much rather us you give
• 1:18:32
  up the 10 to 15 yards Order and Live to play another series of
• 1:18:35
  downs, then give up the big play, and all of a sudden
• 1:18:38
  they're in there in scoring range in one play.
• 1:18:41
  Yeah, the next thing we discussed was keeping Van Dyke
• 1:18:46
  behind the sticks. Obviously, with a Young
• 1:18:48
  quarterback, anything between to me.
• 1:18:53
  I what I tell you earlier, Brown, third and five third and
• 1:18:55
  six That's where I'll get them at every employee, third and six
• 1:19:00
  or more would be ideal every time or bears.
• 1:19:02
  Most, every time I was World, think when you get 24, it's just
• 1:19:06
  too many potential options. We talked about our run defense
• 1:19:09
  Brian's been focusing on Gap, Integrity, but your third and
• 1:19:13
  four and you're lining up in your Miami.
• 1:19:17
  And even though you don't have the best offensive line, well,
• 1:19:19
  they have their own issues. We have our own issues with are
• 1:19:22
  rushing defense. We know that third and fourth,
• 1:19:25
  listen, just just take a shot. We might we might they might
• 1:19:29
  miss the tackle and instead of they called us at to we got the
• 1:19:34
  four and a half and we got a first down so keep it on behind
• 1:19:37
  the sticks because they are just an average third down conversion
• 1:19:42
  team. Only about 40% about 60 63 in
• 1:19:46
  the nation. They're literally right smack
• 1:19:47
  dab in the middle. So it's something that they
• 1:19:50
  don't excel at but they aren't absolutely Dreadful at.
• 1:19:54
  So if we can keep that if we can keep them at their average to
• 1:20:00
  below average again more swings in our favor.
• 1:20:04
  Absolutely. If we put them in situations,
• 1:20:07
  where they also are really buying the six and those third
• 1:20:11
  and long situations. You know that takes some of Of
• 1:20:15
  Harley and Mallory's routes out of the out of the game, right?
• 1:20:20
  All of a sudden you can't run those shallow hitches.
• 1:20:22
  You can't run those shallow ins. You can't run the drags or if
• 1:20:26
  you do you're throwing it for in front of the sticks and hoping
• 1:20:29
  they make play the more we can do that the better the more they
• 1:20:33
  have to force the ball to Rambo in bad coverage areas the
• 1:20:38
  better. So that's what I think is big
• 1:20:43
  and the other the last thing Is going to be make them settle for
• 1:20:47
  three points. If they do get into the scoring
• 1:20:51
  area, get off the damn field, make them kick the field goal
• 1:20:56
  and settle for three points. Yep, and last week, we did that
• 1:21:02
  a couple times we got scored, you know, in a couple of times
• 1:21:07
  but we also they kicked a field goal and they missed a field
• 1:21:12
  goal. Yep.
• 1:21:13
  So some improvements on the red zone defense but we know it's a
• 1:21:17
  struggle. But getting down there and
• 1:21:20
  again, it's holding, right? Just bend, don't you?
• 1:21:23
  You don't break with this team. We're going to have a fight and
• 1:21:25
  shot. Exactly.
• 1:21:29
  So it's been one hellacious you know roughly what 2436 hours
• 1:21:37
  about 36. Yeah.
• 1:21:39
  Six hours over 36 hours and we got to sit here and make a
• 1:21:43
  prediction on this game, you know, what days gone.
• 1:21:49
  But there are still pieces here that we know that could
• 1:21:52
  debilitate this team from winning.
• 1:21:55
  So Braun, what do you say to the score of this game?
• 1:22:00
  I think JC price gets this team up, has them playing with
• 1:22:04
  confidence has been playing with some fire with some juice and
• 1:22:09
  probably playing a little bit more loose than they're used to
• 1:22:12
  playing. I like them to get the W down
• 1:22:17
  there. I thought I've got it 34-31.
• 1:22:21
  I think that we do a good job of moving the football somewhat
• 1:22:26
  consistently against this defense.
• 1:22:28
  I think we get some extra situations there because this
• 1:22:33
  team will give you first downs. They will give you free first
• 1:22:36
  downs. They will give you free five
• 1:22:38
  yards. They were heavily heavily
• 1:22:40
  penalized against FSU in. Are heavily heavily, penalized
• 1:22:45
  all season. So, I don't expect that to
• 1:22:48
  change against us. We just got to be able to
• 1:22:51
  capitalize on that on those opportunities.
• 1:22:54
  Yeah. And I'm actually really not that
• 1:22:57
  far behind you. Just a few here and there.
• 1:22:59
  I'm at 3127 Okies. I think he goes back as I think
• 1:23:04
  we score more times in the Red Zone.
• 1:23:06
  The native I think we push it in a couple more times where our
• 1:23:10
  defense holds because as you get closer and takes the threat of
• 1:23:14
  Rambo away and and you talked about penalties brine, I think
• 1:23:21
  let me see if I have it up here. Yes, 14 for 105 yards versus
• 1:23:27
  FSU. I think that literally there's
• 1:23:31
  going to be a drive where they're going to have be on the
• 1:23:33
  doorstep of stopping us. They're going to do something
• 1:23:35
  stupid and we're going to go down to where touchdown and
• 1:23:38
  Going to be the game. So we're both going Hokies this
• 1:23:41
  week into your point JC's, going to have this team up and I think
• 1:23:46
  JC might be scaring the life out of a few people.
• 1:23:48
  If they start doing dumb things and you know who I'm talking
• 1:23:50
  about, all right, Ron, let's flip it over.
• 1:23:53
  Now, Saturday, pick them's crime, 5952.
• 1:23:58
  And one, I'm 64 44 and one. We're going to start with the
• 1:24:01
  ACC Juke Louisville. Louisville land, 20 brine.
• 1:24:07
  That 20 is a big number but after seeing do Clive and then
• 1:24:13
  even though Louisville just had the game of their life against
• 1:24:16
  Syracuse, I can't see the do defense slowing down Syracuse.
• 1:24:22
  They didn't slow us down. They haven't Sloan anybody down
• 1:24:25
  all year. 42 actually go higher 4920, Louisville wins.
• 1:24:35
  Yeah I'm actually right there with you.
• 1:24:37
  I think Louisville's got just got too much offense.
• 1:24:39
  This is just a bad matchup for Duke.
• 1:24:43
  This is a worst matchup for them, in my, in my opinion, then
• 1:24:46
  it was us so you will hear. Alright, next game, Run the real
• 1:24:53
  big one. down in Death Valley, the number 10 Wake Forest, Demon
• 1:25:00
  Deacons Travel down to Clemson. Clemson is a four and a half
• 1:25:05
  Point favorite. What do you say on this game?
• 1:25:11
  I'm taking wait because this is coming down to a field goal,
• 1:25:13
  either way. So I'm going to go wake here,
• 1:25:19
  I'm actually going to take wake out, right?
• 1:25:20
  But I think it's going to come down to our last blast Drive
• 1:25:24
  field goal. That's going to win it for one
• 1:25:26
  team or the other. Yeah, I think it's comes down to
• 1:25:29
  wakes defense and I think wakes defense is going to stop pumps
• 1:25:33
  in a few times. The Clemson defense is going to
• 1:25:37
  stop. Wake up you times as well but at
• 1:25:40
  least you feel with the Wake defense they make adjustments,
• 1:25:44
  they try different things. They, you know, they're going to
• 1:25:47
  try something. And the Clemson offense is just
• 1:25:53
  looked bad, maybe a field goal, but if I like wake outright to.
• 1:25:59
  So, if I'm getting points with it, you know, give me that.
• 1:26:03
  All right, Brian, I'm still trying to figure out this line
• 1:26:07
  right here, Florida State, BC, somehow.
• 1:26:13
  Someway BC is only favored by two points.
• 1:26:19
  You made the point earlier FS, you should have had the doors
• 1:26:22
  blown off of them last weekend, right?
• 1:26:27
  Again smile FSU FSU is was about to blow the doors off Miami and
• 1:26:31
  then they okay, yeah, okay, I misunderstood that.
• 1:26:37
  I did not watch all that game. I watch the end and saw our pick
• 1:26:40
  go down in flames, but that is 0.
• 1:26:42
  The first half, the first half Florida, State should have been
• 1:26:45
  up. Like I said, 2831 27.
• 1:26:50
  All right, like Miami just kept shooting themselves in the foot
• 1:26:52
  the whole first half, got it. Well regardless here and there I
• 1:26:57
  think be seized a better Coach team.
• 1:26:59
  I think BC with jerk of its slowly getting back.
• 1:27:02
  It's going to continue to be better and only lay into points
• 1:27:06
  against FSU. I think they win easily by 7 or
• 1:27:09
  10. Give me BC.
• 1:27:12
  Not so fast buddy. FSU is going to win this one
• 1:27:14
  out, right? I think they are trending in the
• 1:27:18
  right direction. I don't Think that they are a
• 1:27:20
  good football team yet but they are playing better football.
• 1:27:26
  And I think they are able to do just enough to scrape out a win
• 1:27:31
  against BC, so I'll take FS you. All right?
• 1:27:34
  So they'll be going into the game versus Florida trying to
• 1:27:39
  get Bowl eligibility, which, if Florida wins this weekend in
• 1:27:43
  Florida is playing Missouri. Who's pretty much, probably the
• 1:27:48
  worst team in the SEC. That wouldn't that be nice or or
• 1:27:53
  Florida losses to Missouri. The battle is For Florida,
• 1:27:57
  Florida State who can become Bowl eligible.
• 1:28:00
  Who saw that coming? Well I'd say Florida fans in.
• 1:28:03
  See that coming Florida State probably did but all right Brian
• 1:28:08
  next one, Georgia Tech Notre Dame Notre Dame land 17 and a
• 1:28:13
  half. Yes, you get to pick this one
• 1:28:17
  first. Yeah but I'm taking the Irish
• 1:28:20
  I'm taking the Irish all the way.
• 1:28:23
  I still don't trust Georgia Tech.
• 1:28:25
  Heck, they fucked me a lot but I still do not trust them.
• 1:28:29
  I think the Irish are going to be able to run the ball against
• 1:28:31
  them. I think they're going to be able
• 1:28:32
  to throw the ball, against them better than they have most of
• 1:28:36
  the year. I think they'll see some success
• 1:28:39
  there as well. So and I don't think Georgia
• 1:28:41
  Tech has any answer for that. Marcus Freeman defense.
• 1:28:44
  So maybe the average, yeah, I'm with you on that.
• 1:28:48
  I'm taking the Irish too. And it's Georgia Tech's Dreadful
• 1:28:55
  offensively Notre Dame. Looks like the last few weeks
• 1:28:58
  they finally kind of found exactly what they want to do
• 1:29:01
  offensive ly. They they could have probably
• 1:29:06
  beat UVA by 14 to 21 more but they just kind of, you know,
• 1:29:15
  it's like that it's like the boxing match where the guy
• 1:29:19
  knocks the other guy down the first five.
• 1:29:22
  Grounds knocks him down once we got keep and it's just like, I'm
• 1:29:25
  just going to jab you. We just met.
• 1:29:27
  Yeah, I think they'll turn a little bit more against Georgia
• 1:29:31
  Tech. They know.
• 1:29:32
  Now, they are clearly in the playoff picture, if since he
• 1:29:34
  drops. So I'm with you.
• 1:29:37
  On the Irish are a Braun, we discussed taking this one off
• 1:29:42
  the board. So I'm going to say this if
• 1:29:48
  Brandon Armstrong plays this gets pulled off the board for
• 1:29:52
  both of us, pit UVA pit Lane 14 and a half.
• 1:29:57
  If Brandon Armstrong doesn't play, pit is going to beat them
• 1:30:02
  by 40 points. What news?
• 1:30:05
  He's a jerk. If he plays it might cover this.
• 1:30:12
  But it probably would be it would make me I would have to do
• 1:30:16
  a lot more research and a lot more digging but no Brandon
• 1:30:20
  Armstrong taking pit laying 14 happens.
• 1:30:24
  Yeah. If no Brandon Armstrong I'm
• 1:30:26
  taking pit as well. If he plays I'll take UVA and if
• 1:30:31
  you want to we can throw the Marshal UNCC game on here, just
• 1:30:37
  as a buffer game in case that one gets thrown out.
• 1:30:40
  Yeah, you don't do it. It up there.
• 1:30:42
  What's let me find the line real quick.
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  You put it on the rundown. Marshall why we're doing
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  Marshall UNCC will Healey Charles, huh?
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  Two guys, we have been looking at significantly.
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  Let me get this up here to my betting site.
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  We're kind of, I want to say it was fourteen and a half.
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  As well. 15 Marshall is a road favorite Lane 15.
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  Brian, give me a sec. One thing.
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  Give me Marshall. Give me Marshall.
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  All right I'm gonna take Marshals well.
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  Okay Huff's Huff's my dude Huff's my dude.
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  Sorry, I'm not gonna bury the lead but yeah I'm sorry guys I
• 1:31:47
  like no reasons. Then let's flip the next Braun.
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  Lets go to Syracuse NC State. NC State is lame, eleven and a
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  half. NC State off a tough loss
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  against Wake Forest. Yeah, we saber on.
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  You know what? I think Sean Tucker is going to
• 1:32:18
  be pleased with his performance, but disappointed in the outcome,
• 1:32:24
  So I think that that's enough for me to go cues.
• 1:32:27
  They're going to lose, but they'll keep it close.
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  I think they lose, I don't think they keep it close best defense.
• 1:32:36
  They've seen all year, they just played one of the worst EU
• 1:32:38
  tenses, and they couldn't get anything going.
• 1:32:43
  The biggest thing about this game is location, I forgot where
• 1:32:49
  it is. It's at NC State.
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  Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna lay it.
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  I think NC State was just came by 14 points.
• 1:32:57
  All right, let's take a look at three very crucial games through
• 1:33:01
  the playoffs for on. Let's go a little Pac-12, it
• 1:33:05
  will not be packed full of after dark.
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  It's actually going to be a 730. Kick organ is Pac-12 Primetime.
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  East Coast. Hey Morgan going into Utah Rice
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  Eccles. Utah, ranked 24th Utah, the
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  three-point It, I've got to take organ, as hard as it is to play
• 1:33:30
  Down tricycles. Even mean I'm just had an
• 1:33:36
  epiphany, Brian. But yeah, you think two years
• 1:33:41
  ago? Where were we going?
• 1:33:44
  Oregon. Had a road game against Arizona
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  State. So we riding we're heading.
• 1:33:50
  We were heading to Blacksburg. Yep, we were heading back that
• 1:33:55
  night. In organ.
• 1:33:57
  Remember, they have one loss. They were, they were going to be
• 1:33:59
  in the playoffs. I'm changing this pick Utah and
• 1:34:04
  zorgons chances, because I've seen this story Road out once
• 1:34:07
  before driving down 81 and Justin Herbert, who is
• 1:34:12
  significantly better player than Anthony Brown down at Arizona
• 1:34:15
  State and easier place to play than rice equals.
• 1:34:18
  Could not get it done. Organ chokes.
• 1:34:20
  It I'm going to have to go against here.
• 1:34:25
  I think Oregon takes care of business.
• 1:34:27
  I think they know that they've got a chance here and I think
• 1:34:29
  they lock it up. I don't think it's going to be
• 1:34:33
  like that moment when we were looking for a Chipotle after a a
• 1:34:38
  big a big win against Pitt on bud, Foster's last home game.
• 1:34:42
  So I will take Oregon here. A big win against Pitt tops
• 1:34:49
  rails. Sharkey's Wings, hanging out
• 1:34:52
  with friends, seeing folks, tailgating Lot 10 good times.
• 1:34:58
  Oh, great times. All right.
• 1:35:00
  Brian you get to lead this one. Alabama's land 20 against
• 1:35:04
  Arkansas. Alabama locks up the West with
• 1:35:07
  this wind. What do you think?
• 1:35:09
  Alabama's focused. They are locked in.
• 1:35:12
  They take care of business. They they ruin the the show
• 1:35:15
  there in Arkansas, so give me Bama here.
• 1:35:19
  Okay, I'm gonna go slightly against you.
• 1:35:21
  On this one. Alabama's defense is still
• 1:35:26
  having some problems if not. It will will machine as usually,
• 1:35:34
  Nick Saban's defenses are, you know, they are coming off
• 1:35:39
  against a game against New Mexico state, which I hope New
• 1:35:43
  Mexico. State got a million dollars out
• 1:35:44
  of that game. I really do, but Arkansas has
• 1:35:48
  given up points. Or excuse me, Alabama's been
• 1:35:52
  given up points. I hate going with this one
• 1:35:56
  because in my head is either I'm seeing 1721 and that 20 numbers.
• 1:36:01
  So ugly if I had like 23 I love it but I think Arkansas keeps it
• 1:36:06
  a little bit closer. Me experts think I still think
• 1:36:09
  Bama gets to 40. I think Arkansas.
• 1:36:11
  Just gets to like 20 for like a couple teams have gone against
• 1:36:16
  Alabama this year. All right Brian couple other
• 1:36:20
  names Sonny Dykes and SMU against Luke fickle and
• 1:36:25
  Cincinnati big game because SM you probably should be ranked or
• 1:36:31
  not but playoff committee going to playoff committee.
• 1:36:35
  Cincinnati laying 11 and a half points.
• 1:36:39
  I think fickle knows. He needs this one to be big.
• 1:36:45
  I think he knows. It's got to make sense in this
• 1:36:48
  one. I'm taking since he I think
• 1:36:49
  since he's going to come out focus and I think they're going
• 1:36:52
  to steamroll us them. You if you out the over-under,
• 1:36:56
  whatever that is take the over because I think SM you still can
• 1:36:59
  score some points but I think since he's going to come out and
• 1:37:02
  pop them in the face a few times early get up big and cruise to a
• 1:37:08
  20-point victory when they play teams, they need to beat.
• 1:37:13
  They are focused and play very well.
• 1:37:15
  Well, I think since he takes care of business, I think this
• 1:37:19
  is about a 14 to 17 point win. It's not a, not a blowout, but I
• 1:37:23
  think it easily covers that eleven and a half, all right.
• 1:37:30
  And next week at East Carolina, be an interesting game to go to.
• 1:37:33
  All right, last game really big game is essentially an
• 1:37:37
  elimination game in the Big Ten, whoever loses this game will not
• 1:37:40
  make the playoffs. No, if ands or buts about it.
• 1:37:44
  Michigan State. Ohio State Ohio State Lane 19
• 1:37:50
  points. That's too rich for my blood.
• 1:37:55
  Give me Mel Tucker and Michigan State.
• 1:37:56
  That if that was like ten and a half, I might be tempted.
• 1:38:02
  But 19 is too damn much 19 way too much and I'm with you the
• 1:38:11
  million 100 million dollar man, Mel Tucker.
• 1:38:15
  I don't get that contract. I know he's had a good season.
• 1:38:18
  That is a lot of money to pay for someone with one just One
• 1:38:22
  season, but I'm with you. Is this isn't?
• 1:38:27
  That is, I think that's probably what it is.
• 1:38:33
  Ohio State is not exactly. They're really good offensively.
• 1:38:38
  They're like Alabama, they have holes defensively.
• 1:38:43
  And 4228 4230, I think Ohio State wins, but I don't think
• 1:38:52
  it's by the 19 that people are sick.
• 1:38:54
  People to see a do produce Defense Forces.
• 1:38:57
  A Mel Tucker defense, completely different animals.
• 1:39:00
  Yeah, and I think this one's again.
• 1:39:02
  I think the lines about a touchdown too heavy for me.
• 1:39:05
  Yes, it's all going with the how good they looked against Purdue,
• 1:39:09
  right? Yeah.
• 1:39:12
  To me should be like between 10 and 12 1919 at all.
• 1:39:17
  Brian anything breaking over the last hour and 40 minutes.
• 1:39:23
  Nothing's popped up on my and buddy.
• 1:39:26
  All right, hour and 40 minutes doesn't shot me.
• 1:39:28
  We spend a few extra minutes talking about obvious things
• 1:39:32
  again. Justin Fuente fired or mutually
• 1:39:35
  agreed to part ways. Hokies are in the search, keep
• 1:39:40
  you to the grindstone look for the Annals believe everything.
• 1:39:45
  You read believe nothing. You read.
• 1:39:47
  Yep. Because there's gonna be a lot
• 1:39:49
  of smoke and some of its going to be smoke signals and some of
• 1:39:53
  its going to have some fire attached to it
• 1:39:55
  abso-freakin'-lutely. So that is going to wrap up this
• 1:39:58
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